The Great America Show - The Great America Saturday Show： May 3, 2025

00:00:00.000 hello everybody and welcome to the great america show thanks so much for joining us on this

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00:00:20.640 had a great weekend over the weekend we got some new details uh emerging from a new york times

00:00:25.860 investigation not from the ntsb not from the faa on that plane crash that blackhawk helicopter crash

00:00:32.620 that happened dc in late january that took the lives of 67 individuals uh three in the blackhawk 64 in

00:00:40.380 that commuter uh american airlines aircraft um the report as i said was published by the new york

00:00:46.620 times on sunday and it details the blackhawks exchange with air traffic control in the lead

00:00:51.620 up to the disaster uh according to the report the blackhawk pilot captain rebecca lobach was

00:00:57.700 conducting her annual flight review and her co-pilot chief warrant officer to andrew uh eves was serving

00:01:04.420 as her flight instructor when the air traffic controllers informed the blackhawk that there

00:01:09.200 was an airliner nearby lobach and eves acknowledged the message and requested visual separation which

00:01:15.900 means you see you acknowledge that you see the aircraft and that you are taking control as the

00:01:21.440 pilot in command that you will maintain visual separation without air traffic controlling

00:01:26.300 having to intervene that's the task that you take on when you ask or you agree for visual separation

00:01:33.060 going further the blackhawk was 50 now this is according to the new york times investigation the

00:01:38.800 blackhawk was 15 seconds away from the cross paths cross paths with the jet warrant officer eves who

00:01:44.900 was evaluating miss uh rebecca lobach then turned his attention to captain lobach he told her he

00:01:50.940 believed that the air traffic controller wanted them to turn left towards the east riverbank turning

00:01:56.700 left would have opened up more space between the helicopter and the passenger flight 5342 which is

00:02:02.700 heading towards runway 33 at an altitude of roughly 300 feet she did not turn left the report indicates

00:02:10.520 lobach of durham north carolina served as an aviation officer in the army beginning in july of 2019

00:02:16.720 had around 500 flight hours of flying time in the blackhawk which is not uh particularly high you need a

00:02:24.080 thousand hours in some cases 1500 hours to be hired by an airline she was assigned to the 12th aviation

00:02:30.380 battalion in fort belvoir virginia her awards included army commendation medal army achievement medal national

00:02:37.660 defense service medal and the army service ribbon to the army she was also a white house a military social

00:02:44.580 aid in the biden administration now the third member of the flight crew along with lobach and eves was

00:02:51.160 staff sergeant ryan o'hara so the interesting thing here that we learn now folks is that uh lobach

00:02:59.540 acknowledged that the plane was in sight acknowledged that she saw it and did not do anything uh to subvert

00:03:07.560 that plane now uh her family confirms that she had no medical impairments that there was nothing uh going

00:03:15.460 on with her that uh she was all there medically and you know that there was no issues but why did she

00:03:22.640 not heed the warning she acknowledged that she saw the plane in sight turning left would have almost

00:03:28.960 guaranteed to avoid this incident now they say with 15 seconds as a pilot myself you could have averted

00:03:35.040 an accident like that in probably half that time five seconds seven seconds maybe even four seconds

00:03:41.760 now they say they were operating with night vision goggles um they say that may have played a role in

00:03:48.220 it but it doesn't excuse the fact that she acknowledged she had that in sight but proceeded to crash into that

00:03:57.540 plane now i'm not suggesting it was on purpose by any stretch of the imagination but 64 people in a

00:04:03.500 passenger plane were killed so that warns and demands some answers from the military on their

00:04:10.100 training practices and why the adsb so in these aircrafts and civilian aircrafts you have something

00:04:16.720 called a transponder and a transponder is a piece of device in your plane that really relays a signal

00:04:22.760 to air traffic control so if you've seen on a radar screen before they have the green blips on the screen

00:04:28.100 there's a number that corresponds to each aircraft so in other words if you go flying you're on a

00:04:32.980 commercial airport airliner before you leave the gate air traffic control says american airlines

00:04:37.360 flight 5347 squawk 1234 you put 1234 in your transponder and now you appear on their screen

00:04:44.720 as 1234 with the coinciding call sign that's how every aircraft in america works probably with the

00:04:51.880 exception of some secretive military aircraft and air force one now this plane this black hawk was under

00:04:57.880 a squawk code so they appeared on the blip every six six about six seconds what they didn't have turned

00:05:03.720 on was the adsb which is another uh more intuitive radar measure which gives a blip about every second

00:05:13.060 so rather than six seconds you'd get a blip every second now apparently it was turned off because the

00:05:19.960 secretive mission that they were doing uh you would have need to have it turned off but that doesn't make

00:05:24.940 any sense why you would have it turned off even on a rescue test mission you're flying in a very busy

00:05:31.320 airspace with a very small corridor uh maneuvering yet you had this turned off when aviation aircrafts

00:05:40.720 were coming in and landing now they say that dca traffic starts to slow down around 9 30 at night

00:05:47.920 why wouldn't they be doing the test missions at 9 30 at night or 10 o'clock at night why would you be

00:05:53.180 doing it in the heat of rush hour when planes are coming in and out of dca airport especially with

00:05:58.560 a rather inexperienced pilot it doesn't make much sense does it um we'll keep you posted on anything

00:06:05.500 that that uh comes out more about this but we felt it was uh an obligation to us to bring you this news

00:06:12.900 uh you know as 64 people on that plane plus the three in that aircraft in that helicopter lost their

00:06:19.880 lives we need action and we want to know what happened um now this isn't the only thing that's

00:06:25.560 been happening lately with our military just this week okay you ready for this folks a 70 million

00:06:32.120 dollar navy f-18 super hornet fell off the uss harry truman into the red sea the u.s navy has

00:06:39.880 confirmed that the super warrant which is one of america's premier fighter jets fell off the truman and

00:06:45.140 sank into the red sea on monday april 28th which was today according to the official report the 70

00:06:51.180 million dollar aircraft from the strike fighter squadron vfa-136 along with the tow tractor moving

00:06:57.480 it pulled overboard while the carrier was operating in one of the world's most strategically important

00:07:02.500 waterways both personnel management jumped to clear in time the only one sustaining a minor injury

00:07:09.200 folks how does this happen in america on our ships the military needs a massive overhaul and i'm not

00:07:19.280 saying this is on pete hegseth by any stretch of the imagination as he's got a hell of a job to come

00:07:24.280 in and clean this thing up but i mean this is what's been going on it's it's truly a travesty uh in other

00:07:33.340 news at the white house today tom holman made an appearance in the white house briefing room and

00:07:39.080 he brought up that judge that they arrested for harboring illegal aliens take a listen to tom holman

00:07:46.400 this is a man who i think all americans should look up to to answer your question as far as the

00:07:52.580 the judges look we just arrested the judge uh pan bonnie for uh impeding uh ice enforcement

00:08:00.620 removals i said from day one you don't have to support uh ice's operations you can support sanctuary

00:08:08.600 cities if that's what you desire to do sanctuary cities and stand aside and watch ice keep their

00:08:13.140 communities safe because any public official whether your mayor city councilman or governor

00:08:17.880 their number one responsibility is protecting the communities and ice has been clear we're

00:08:22.180 targeting public safety threats and national security threats i can't believe there's any

00:08:26.000 elected official and especially a judge that doesn't believe we should be doing that and they

00:08:30.380 should be helping us but i said from day one you can sit aside and watch you can you can argue

00:08:34.980 against us always want and protest all you want but when you cross that line i've said this a thousand

00:08:39.660 times when you cross that line to impediment or knowingly harboring concealing an illegal alien

00:08:45.500 from ice you will be prosecuted judge or not and as far as releasing so many people you know you know

00:08:52.140 why the biden administration released millions of people in the united states no one ever talks about

00:08:56.400 i'll talk about it why did they release people into the interior united states and put them rather than put

00:09:01.920 them into an ice bed why not put them in an empty ice bed 127 dollars a night rather than in a hotel

00:09:07.160 room at 500 bucks a night they did it on purpose because when you put them in an ice detention bed

00:09:12.780 they get a hearing in 35 days court records show nine out of ten people claim asylum get order removal

00:09:18.740 they're gone but if you release them and put them in a hotel room at 500 bucks a night

00:09:23.400 their hearings can be five seven nine years where you pull out all appeals and what are they hoping for

00:09:28.540 that that another democrat administration is in power they can warrant amnesty to millions

00:09:33.220 this is about selling this country off for future political power that's what it was the law clearly

00:09:41.180 says if you arrive on our border without proper documentation you shall be detained not maybe

00:09:46.360 not think about it shall and that's what president trump's doing catching leases over that's what god

00:09:53.880 bless tom holman and the work that he's doing here in this country uh we need more people in the

00:09:58.260 administration like tom holman who doesn't care about whose feelings they hurt or or or anything

00:10:04.560 else they care about truth justice and the american way and following law and order in this country which

00:10:09.960 we haven't seen for a very very very long time so president trump's first 100 days is tomorrow

00:10:16.700 and uh there's a lot of pollsters out there who are saying he's underwater if you watch fox news

00:10:24.080 carl roe promises that he's underwater and the only thing he's doing right is immigration

00:10:29.080 abc news new york times sienna who hasn't done a poll since election day and has been wrong every

00:10:37.240 single time since 2020 on presidential polling tells us that president trump's underwater the people

00:10:42.860 are revolting but that's not entirely true every metric i see support for president trump and his

00:10:52.180 administration is still very high the american people still support him now yes immigration is

00:10:58.600 particularly high because it was a big issue that donald trump ran on he ran on fixing so yes

00:11:03.980 it's going to be particularly high and yes the economy we're working through some speed bumps right now

00:11:09.040 as president trump tries to onshore jobs as he tries to bring back manufacturing jobs to america

00:11:15.020 as he tries to make america great again yes there are going to be speed bumps folks

00:11:19.980 you and i both know that anything we do in life any change we make nothing is seamless right

00:11:26.960 you put your kid in a new school they don't have friends right away takes a little time right

00:11:32.540 you change jobs takes a lot to get acclimated to you meet new friends you learn new things

00:11:38.900 right nothing is seamless nothing is ever going to be seamless so yes there are some hiccups right

00:11:44.400 now but that's normal donald trump has only been in office a few months his administration a few

00:11:49.540 months now i'm not justifying why pam bondi or dan bongino are not keeping up on their promises

00:11:55.840 we're going to take that all up on today's show but as for the economy president trump told us he was

00:12:01.000 going to do this he told us he wanted jobs back here in america he told us he was going to bring

00:12:06.000 real estate and development back into america he's now has trillions of dollars i think the

00:12:12.600 last estimate was about five trillion dollars of people pledging to come spend here in america ibm

00:12:17.920 today 150 billion dollars are going to spend here in america the most they've ever spent okay so yes

00:12:24.860 there are hiccups folks it's going to take a little time rome wasn't built overnight that's the saying

00:12:30.140 right so i want to get a sense of what's going on are these numbers real are people really upset

00:12:36.640 with donald trump and his administration do they want to see more out of him our guest today is

00:12:41.480 going to be mark mitchell head and lead pollster for rasmussen reports i want to get a sense on what

00:12:46.600 the american people are saying and really saying because mark was spot on in the 2024 election

00:12:51.880 off by a very very small margin but he got the numbers right he said donald trump was going to win

00:12:57.720 he said donald trump was going to win the popular vote just as he did so i want to get a real sense

00:13:03.260 on what's going on not the fox news polling not the abc polling and not the msnbc cnn's wall street

00:13:12.060 journal they're all cut from the same cloth they all hate donald trump and in turn they all hate this

00:13:17.920 country

00:13:18.240 joining us now is mark mitchell head and lead pollster for rasmussen reports mark i want to

00:13:29.100 start with some news that's been making the headlines lately and it's been steve bannon he's telling us

00:13:35.140 that donald trump is running for re-election in 2028 trump.com trumpstore.com is now selling hats

00:13:43.380 that say trump 2028 on it uh we've spoken about this in the past before now i think it's a farce

00:13:52.020 it's a troll move but the left is is i mean dead on that trump is running in 2028 tell us your thoughts

00:14:01.480 on what's going on here maybe it's just to destabilize them to be honest with you but i don't

00:14:07.340 think they need that much help at this point trolling the left is probably a waste of trump's time

00:14:12.600 because there's in such utter disarray but i mean politically it's not like that bad of i mean

00:14:20.160 there's a shot we asked about it and the 22nd amendment is the constitution limits the president

00:14:27.320 to two terms in office would you approve or disapprove of repealing the 22nd and it gets 35

00:14:33.820 approval only 48 strong disapproved but republicans were like like bring it like republicans want donald trump

00:14:41.540 to run again over 50 of them said repeal the 22nd amendment and and keep in mind this allows like

00:14:47.160 obama to run again too and all that stuff the way we asked it and we still got 52 republican approval

00:14:52.760 and people think if he runs again a majority 53 said yeah he's likely to win only 35 say no so

00:15:00.780 i mean stranger things have happened i guess we have new polling out that people think we're living

00:15:06.200 in a fascist dictatorship hold on hold on don't give it to the people yet they've got to wait for

00:15:11.200 that mark that's the good they gotta wait for that i'm just saying like we're playing fast and used by

00:15:15.180 the rules right now and so of all the constitutional crises that we've potentially seen and avoided or not

00:15:22.960 is this really the biggest one i don't know yeah we're gonna get to so much mark's got so much new

00:15:27.840 polling out as we come up tomorrow in the first hundred days in office we're gonna get to all of that but

00:15:33.200 i wanted to get this 2028 out of the way uh i had roger stone on the show uh last week mark i was

00:15:38.680 down in florida i sat down on roger and we started talking about this whole thing and we started

00:15:42.920 talking about steve bannon a little bit and how i think the whole 2028 thing is crazy it makes people

00:15:47.740 look crazy would i love to see donald trump run infinitely and run this country until the day i die

00:15:52.160 absolutely and i think there's a lot of people who would agree but it's unrealistic and i know

00:15:57.060 donald trump believes that too and i think after this donald trump has had enough

00:16:01.100 caroline levitt was asked about it uh at a sit-down recently let's take a listen to what

00:16:05.560 the official trump store is now now selling hats and say trump 2028 50 bucks uh even though the

00:16:13.280 constitution doesn't envision a term three for president trump or any trump or any president

00:16:19.260 is that just a hat it's just a hat the president uh was asked and answered this question yesterday

00:16:25.660 it's not something he's thinking of though i hear the hats are flying off the shelves

00:16:29.220 oh man it's such a joke there it's definitely trolling you know what i think it is it's like

00:16:35.540 okay if somebody wronged you and they got caught and you know they got to apologize it's like maybe

00:16:43.140 you're gonna make it super hard for them i think that's kind of what it is you know like trump has

00:16:47.240 complete political power now you know people like gavin newsom are starting to like oh i'm gonna bring

00:16:52.740 steve bannon on and talk to him and steve bannon it'll go on and be like trump 2028 maybe it's just

00:16:58.860 twisting the knife maybe it's just like i don't know i'm all for draw i had a girl tell me the other day

00:17:04.640 uh you are you ever serious or did you just troll me 24 7 and i'm like i can't control it man i do

00:17:11.160 like 95 mark and it pisses a lot of people off but it makes a lot of people love me as well

00:17:17.060 i probably piss more people off than love me but that's fine i i like joking around it makes

00:17:22.960 things so much easier and i think that's why you and i get along so well is because we don't take

00:17:27.100 everything so seriously and we don't take everything so literally you and i were talking before the show

00:17:32.900 about mental illness in this country and if people were like you and i per se and they just took a step

00:17:41.460 back and they relaxed and they laughed and they took everything with a grain of salt i think this country

00:17:46.300 mark would be on a way better track than we're on right now not that i'm saying we're on a bad track

00:17:50.860 but mental health wise is an issue in this country and people take everything so literally

00:17:56.180 yeah i mean this is i'm a pollster right i do public opinion so i should be very concerned about

00:18:02.760 mental health and i am because i think a lot of people are super crazy right now we've talked about

00:18:07.260 so many different angles like the very massive gulf between what people believe who watch one cable tv

00:18:13.120 news channel versus another that's not healthy that's super sick and some of those people are

00:18:18.440 fixating on essentially what is fake issues and that's like really causing problems because the

00:18:25.340 threat of violence is being escalated um we've asked on that so many different ways but like almost six to

00:18:31.060 one people think that even after trump's election that things are getting more politically divisive like

00:18:36.720 it's really bad um and then i think there's this whole level of probably a rentier class who figured

00:18:42.460 out that they could turn uh mental health as a service into some like massive 10 20 30 billion

00:18:48.860 dollar a year probably taxpayer funded like heist so there's probably that going on are you talking

00:18:54.500 about oh yeah i i was playing around with grok and grok estimates that 40 to 50 percent of all

00:19:01.600 therapist hours in the u.s come from taxpayer funded programs and so it's like if you're the therapist

00:19:08.040 are you gonna are you gonna fix that mental health problem or are you just gonna build medicaid for

00:19:13.740 all you can right probably build medicaid and then you have well it's convenient for the left to have

00:19:19.520 a whole lot of super mental people because they can whip them up into a frenzied outrage over all kinds

00:19:24.840 of stuff that's fake just look at the elon salute that turned into cars being burned down at dealerships

00:19:30.280 they literally weaponize that into political violence and that's just a bunch of insane people and so it

00:19:36.520 suits them and of course i was sharing with you that that graph that pew did excellent research and

00:19:42.260 showed that 18 to 29 year old female liberals have the highest uh diagnosis of mental conditions at over

00:19:48.580 50 percent absolutely insane uh you know it's just thinking back how times have changed you're a little

00:19:55.160 bit older than me not much uh when you were younger mark i don't think it was as bad as it was now and

00:20:02.780 we've spoken about this before whether it be the way that parenting is done and you know i consider

00:20:07.700 myself uh i'm a millennial but i consider my generation probably the best and i'll tell you why

00:20:14.480 we lived i lived a life mark without a cell phone okay i lived a life where i used to have to go knock

00:20:19.660 on my friend's door to go ride my bicycle but i also progressed into the time where i knew what it was

00:20:24.720 like to have a cell phone and i learned the ways and i mean it was a really a turning point in this

00:20:30.120 country technology wise and i got the best of both worlds and i would take all that back mark and do

00:20:35.540 it all over again the same way the the days of not having a cell phone the days of me doing something

00:20:41.360 wrong and my dad whooping my ass i wouldn't trade that for the world because it made me into the person

00:20:46.500 i am today so back to what i was saying without ranting and bloviating uh it is when you were younger

00:20:54.560 we didn't have as many people going to see shrinks and therapists and we didn't have these shrinks

00:21:00.220 putting people on lorazepam and these antidepressants mark that we find out now melt your brain it's

00:21:06.760 literally what these things do um we didn't have that so why is it now that we've entered this stage

00:21:14.300 and it's not even just trump derangement syndrome it happened way before that where people go to these

00:21:19.700 shrinks and these therapists and to each his own if you want to do it i don't agree with it but to

00:21:24.080 each his own and they prescribe you these medicine and keep coming back it's like you become a drug

00:21:29.340 addict yeah i was pondering this and i think that zoomers don't know how good we had it they just

00:21:39.340 have no idea and i also think the boomers have no idea how bad zoomers have it i think that's

00:21:45.280 ultimately the gulf because we see 18 to 29 39 year olds going more conservative older voters going

00:21:51.140 less conservative and that's because they're trying to keep what they have and i think that

00:21:55.860 it was all stolen from us and i think it was stolen from us by the oligarchy and i don't think we're

00:22:01.660 going to get it back i think that we have a couple of options in order to wrestle control from the

00:22:07.780 oligarchy one of them is a strong executive leadership the other is revolution and in a certain

00:22:14.120 point that's what's going to happen but it was a maximum rent seeking behavior by powerful people okay

00:22:20.400 they should it was so there were so many structural economic reasons that all those things you were

00:22:25.520 talking about existed well there wasn't a scarcity of housing people could afford things people weren't

00:22:30.820 going into super debt most households were able to survive on one income because wages were high

00:22:36.400 relative to the cost of things we didn't spend 22 percent of our gross domestic product on the

00:22:41.460 healthcare industry because people hadn't figured out to turn it into a racket yet like back when you

00:22:46.720 and i were a kid you know you basically went to the doctor and paid 50 bucks or whatever it was

00:22:51.280 right and that's what and like even think about the stores we shopped at granted when i was a kid there

00:22:57.580 were department stores and there were grocery stores as well they were staffed with people you know

00:23:02.300 that were humans and they set the margins now you have like um perverted ais like trying to

00:23:10.140 extract maximum value out of your dollar every single consumer interaction you have and so

00:23:16.640 everything has been turned to squeeze every drop out of the american middle class that's what it's

00:23:23.080 been ship the jobs overseas put the boot on the neck with the technology technological censorship and the

00:23:29.800 in the nanny state and it's it's all gotta i don't know how much of that trump can roll back

00:23:35.080 but there is another side and there will be more community and stuff i hope my kids can experience it

00:23:41.780 um yeah i think i think you're probably raising your kids the right way last time i saw you you

00:23:49.500 said something along the lines of uh you don't own anything over 150 dollars and and you know right

00:23:55.560 it reminds me so much of my father who uh you know worked on wall street his whole life and never bought

00:24:01.000 a suit my mom would go suit shopping for him and i mean he was wearing very very expensive suits but if

00:24:06.080 he ever found out what those suits cost he would lose his mind uh and and it's it's just the mentality

00:24:12.240 on where we've where we've come you know it's about what kind of car you drive now it's about what kind

00:24:17.220 of watch you're wearing it's about where your clothes are made or what kind of sneakers you're wearing

00:24:21.520 and and uh not down to the core values of like what you said it's it's just it's a matter of outpacing

00:24:26.800 the next person the next person and you know over the last few months mark i've really looked into it

00:24:31.840 and i've really thought deeply about it and you know i'm not gonna sit here and say i don't own a

00:24:36.100 rolex or own nice you know nice things but you know i i've i've really like pulled back and and

00:24:41.620 looked in the mirror and said like what is it all for like what why do i need this ten thousand dollar

00:24:47.820 watch or why do i need these expensive shoes and you know i've i've come to realize it's really

00:24:53.600 really stupid yeah well more does not equal better right i think what happened is that the

00:25:01.480 global homo economic oligarchy whatever you want to call them right they made everything super

00:25:07.520 available on slave labor overseas and so you can get anything you want cheap and every super niche

00:25:14.280 experience you know back when i was a kid a video game cost 50 or 60 bucks inflation adjusted that's

00:25:20.840 like 150 200 we had three of them and we really valued them and they were a luxury they were our

00:25:26.520 rolex watch and i'm not saying don't have nice stuff but it's like everybody what people value

00:25:33.980 right has has really changed because when we were a kid people valued competition interaction discourse

00:25:40.800 community um shared experiences and now what everybody values seems to be you know a quick hit of dopamine

00:25:49.800 basically and our products are like that our foods like that or entertainments like that the way we

00:25:55.820 interact with people is like that and that's probably going to revert to the mean too and i have no idea

00:26:00.580 how that looks maybe it'll just be people talking to each other and eschewing social media or maybe

00:26:05.540 we'll all be plugged into some matrix i don't know but yeah it's going to come back you're absolutely

00:26:09.340 right before you know it's what really made me realize is was i have friends who are very very rich mark

00:26:15.240 and i have friends who are working class people who make a paycheck that they need to survive on

00:26:19.840 and this is what really made me realize it was uh you know i'm hanging out with these really rich

00:26:25.660 friends one day and i'm like they're all miserable number one everything they talk about is money

00:26:30.320 everything's money this money that and then the next week i hung out with my friends who are

00:26:34.740 working class blue collar people and i'm like they're so much happier like everything about them

00:26:41.400 is happier i have a better time hanging out with them because we can talk about nonsense we can

00:26:46.660 bullshit about anything and not everything's about money or what kind of car i'm driving and

00:26:50.960 you know earlier in the year i sold i drove a porsche i sold it mark and i i bought myself a jeep

00:26:55.940 wrangler and i'm so much happier um so you know i've just come to realize now like society is just

00:27:02.540 so bogged down by what you're driving what you're wearing and the price tag on your clothes i think that's

00:27:08.780 a song lyrics by the way but uh it's really come to that and i think it's absolutely killing society

00:27:15.300 it's dystopian we've lost the ability to dream right like if i could not uh never work again

00:27:22.280 like right now what would i do with the rest of my life well i have an answer for that i would build

00:27:26.800 wooden ships probably or something like that and i think the vast majority of people who make our

00:27:32.900 make our decisions for us figure out how our society is going to run economically control the

00:27:39.000 vast majority of the wealth allocation probably don't have answers to those questions they probably

00:27:43.880 don't right and it's like well you know uh just squeeze every drop and at a certain point like

00:27:50.260 yeah yeah we there's not a lot of people starving right like we have access to more crap than we've

00:27:56.200 ever had access to cheaper than ever before and yet people aren't happy like uh weirdest dystopia ever

00:28:03.280 yeah you're absolutely right uh you know uh if i had all the money in the world mark and i can uh

00:28:08.780 go you know do whatever uh my dream job is to go down to aruba open up a little pizzeria shack on

00:28:14.960 the beach buy two or three jet skis and sit there all day and rent them out that's my dream job and

00:28:19.520 it's you know it's the simple and finer things you can do that one now i can do the great america show

00:28:27.880 from the beaches of aruba you know i actually have a friend three restaurants down there and he goes down

00:28:32.580 like twice a month and he absolutely aruba's a beautiful place uh highly recommend it john the

00:28:38.100 digital nomad i you know what separating from reality markets if there's ever a day where i can

00:28:44.020 get rid of my cell phone and i can get rid of technology and i can do this show like a good old

00:28:48.040 uh reeling felt i i would do it in a heartbeat the the day i can get rid of a cell phone is going to

00:28:53.200 be the day that i absolutely i i was telling you before i just got back i took my father for an early

00:28:58.320 early father's day gift to scottsdale arizona and we played you know four or five rounds of golf and

00:29:03.020 we we hiked the canyons and you know i didn't take my phone out very much i took friday off and people

00:29:08.620 are probably wondering as they're sitting here watching today where the hell i was um just to

00:29:12.560 disconnect from reality is such a nice thing from time to time and uh i can't wait the problem is the

00:29:19.160 ages we're in john yeah this is my rifle there are many like it but this one is mine my rifle is my best

00:29:26.460 friend is my life i must master it as i must master my life is that full metal jacket problem

00:29:32.200 no that's the united states uh marine corps rifle treat but i'm saying it's like when an information

00:29:38.460 war is being fought like i can put this down when it's won when all of the news and the media isn't

00:29:44.860 fake when all of the pollsters put out their best effort of accurate information then i can hang up

00:29:52.460 the cell phone and retire it you're absolutely right you know what they give us a job though

00:29:57.600 mark they give us a thing and i can't say i've ever been happier doing this job was the reason i stayed

00:30:02.480 in this i left the airline industry of being a pilot to come do this and you know i come out here every

00:30:07.740 day and i have a blast uh because people tune in and uh it makes it that much uh more worth it

00:30:14.120 mark let's turn to uh the first hundred days before we get to the polling and where donald trump

00:30:25.700 is at right now i want to get your assessment on his first hundred days in office um you know where

00:30:33.400 we're at where we're going are you underwhelmed are you overwhelmed has he underperformed in your and

00:30:39.660 this is your personal opinion has he underperformed has he overperformed has he kept his promises

00:30:43.980 um and do you believe he could have done more it's a lot to unpack the floor is yours to unpack it as

00:30:50.820 you will all right i'm not going to talk about the polling at all so um i personally like i said i

00:30:58.340 think our entire system of democracy has been co-opted and corrupted by powerful people i think that

00:31:04.320 i'm very cynical i think almost everybody's been bought out by something some influence or whatever

00:31:08.780 um basically were being oppressed by uh occupied territory washington dc and i think that that

00:31:16.540 needs to change now how do you change there's a bunch of ways you can change um unfortunately

00:31:22.640 everyone like is in an escalation okay and so right now i think what trump was is an escalation trump too

00:31:29.900 like it's an escalation we tried mccain it didn't work right okay the people are giving you trump now

00:31:36.200 how's it going to go and what trump 2.0 came out of the gates as is like a totally different animal

00:31:42.780 that nobody was prepared for like remember we were looking at google search volumes of like suicide and

00:31:48.420 expatriation and stuff like that in washington dc and so it was very clear that there was something

00:31:54.180 different about trump that the the governor was off that he was going to actually take an axe to

00:32:00.620 the apparatus now i look every day and frame my opinion on well has that changed has there been a

00:32:08.260 change to a calculus has he been declawed is this train off the tracks and i don't know the answer

00:32:14.140 to that question i have concerns and i know that trump could have been more effective if he hadn't been

00:32:19.780 saddled with all these legal issues if congress had been a little bit more aggressive trump came in at

00:32:26.140 defcon one and congress came in at defcon four like that's ultimately what it came down to and

00:32:30.840 the established republicans didn't have his back and i'm guess we should like thank them i guess for

00:32:36.560 kicking the cr can or getting like two or three law whatever they got through i mean it's been

00:32:41.660 absolutely piddling um and so i think the expectations of americans were low then immediately

00:32:47.960 became very high and i think a lot of folks in the political circles have now seen how deep this

00:32:54.520 abyss goes and it is deep and it is dark and so now i think to myself well are we going to be able

00:33:02.140 to cover that up can we go back to self-governance when everybody literally knows the government is

00:33:06.820 just like how much they've sold out the american people and so i look for signs that trump is going

00:33:13.240 to acknowledge that and they give us some we're getting baited with stuff like that oh you're going

00:33:18.500 to get the epstein client list well who knows like let's see it i can tell you that maybe the majority

00:33:27.040 of voters could go back to a scenario where everybody chills out a little bit they vote for

00:33:33.180 stale republican people but i i think like the ideological core of the right never going to forget

00:33:40.760 how bad this was because look at how much the 2020 steel uh invigorated everybody and really brought

00:33:47.020 everyone together so i i just don't i've been saying i don't think you can put the toothpaste

00:33:51.400 back in the tube and when i see things like doge moving the goalposts back i wonder if they're trying

00:33:58.200 and if they are trying they should stop because i don't think the toothpaste can go back in the tube

00:34:03.240 that's one of your favorite sayings uh yeah let's let's um uh begin with uh a few things that you

00:34:10.880 had mentioned um epstein before we get to retribution the epstein files and i said this to

00:34:17.000 how many more people need to die commit suicide before we get this list and this isn't donald trump

00:34:23.660 at this point mark this is pam bondi and i constantly hear people saying give her a chance

00:34:28.660 give her a chance things don't happen overnight that's total nonsense mark we've wanted the epstein

00:34:34.580 list since 2016 okay we've been asking for the epstein list they knew for the last four years this

00:34:40.580 isn't a donald trump issue this isn't a stephen miller issue this is none of the trump people this is

00:34:45.320 pam bondi what is she doing why is she so uh uh abhorrent in in uh uh you know disrespecting

00:34:56.320 president trump's wishes trump told her uh get that thing done and you know what it's not this only

00:35:01.240 thing mark i got a text over the weekend which i'm going to read you know that that we know that

00:35:05.460 that's what happened what's that the intercourse between trump and pam bondi about the president

00:35:11.420 trump told her to do it and he was asked about it last week and he said you know that's on pam bondi

00:35:15.760 and so like i mean what more is he supposed to do he told her exactly right yeah get these documents

00:35:21.780 out there and uh it's it's unbelievable but it's not just that ty clevenger who's represented me

00:35:28.960 before an attorney who's who's representing a client on behalf of the seth rich case years ago

00:35:34.820 a federal judge made it permissible that ty get seth rich's laptop for years he's been stone

00:35:42.580 bowled by the fbi okay understandably it was the biden administration but it's not the trump

00:35:48.880 administration under cash patel why will they not turn over that seth rich laptop why what are they

00:35:54.940 hiding mark what are they hiding in the seth rich documents do they not want to come out what we

00:36:00.100 already know that seth rich uh uh was uh was uh leaking to julian assange and julian assange was

00:36:06.520 not really a russian agent is that what they don't want us to know we already know that just like

00:36:11.640 jeffrey epstein didn't kill himself mark real quickly before i get your reaction i want to read

00:36:16.380 you this email i got from an attorney who i'm gonna have on this show this week his name is kevin

00:36:20.760 evans kevin evans and he's an attorney excuse me out of colorado and four years ago three or four

00:36:28.400 years ago he sued because he wanted documents he found out the government was hiding thousands of

00:36:33.240 documents mark through a foia on hunter biden and how him and joe biden and jim biden were being paid

00:36:41.540 from china and ukraine documents they won't turn them over okay they verified that they're there but

00:36:47.020 they won't turn them over so i get this email on tuesday as i'm sitting on a plane going to scottsdale

00:36:52.060 hey john i thought you'd find this message from main justice very interesting either the higher

00:36:58.160 ups in the trump doj do not understand what is going on in the trenches or there is something

00:37:02.940 more to the story why is the trump doj continuing to cover for and protect hunter and james biden

00:37:08.620 i'm trying to bring this case to the public's attention in an effort to pressure a change in

00:37:13.360 the doj's position this is from a man named kevin evans okay he is a democrat did not vote for donald

00:37:19.700 trump the first time i don't think he's voted for donald trump the second time this man is a democrat

00:37:24.320 okay who just wants truth justice and the american way i'm sorry mark again for bloviating but

00:37:30.200 i mean is this what we have to deal with now are we at a war with ourselves

00:37:34.600 yes and americans know it on every single one of these issues that's the thing is that the

00:37:40.920 gaslighting doesn't work anymore and the establishment still hasn't figured it out and

00:37:44.620 they're trying the same old tricks um people knew like people didn't think that epstein killed

00:37:50.680 himself 52 to 21 they thought he was uh murdered and and this was like back in 2020 like not long

00:37:57.220 after it happened so people knew um people on every single one of these things they knew all about the

00:38:03.120 hunter biden laptop and biden they were ready to impeach biden 50 um back in in the winter of 22

00:38:10.460 like after the fall of 21 we had numbers in the 60s of people who uh 60 plus of people who said that

00:38:17.480 joe biden was profiting personally and knowingly from his son's deals in china the whole thing about

00:38:23.120 his mental decline americans knew that 66 of them wanted him to get a mental test back in february of

00:38:29.160 2022 and so here we are and i just it's like trump should not be leaning into the tactics uh this was

00:38:38.240 supposed to be a super transparent administration and they've put a lot out but you have to admit

00:38:42.460 a lot of it's come through doge a lot of it's come through karen levitt and you have dan mangino

00:38:48.960 out there saying stuff like you know trust the plan guys there's hard stuff blah blah blah but you

00:38:54.180 could tell us what that is you could say well i think americans are are willing to acknowledge or

00:39:01.540 understand that there's tell us the reason why you can't release seth rich's laptop because in an

00:39:08.240 absence of information they're going to jump to the worst conclusions which is again 72

00:39:12.380 percent of voters think are concerned that we're living in a police state that's the kind of stuff

00:39:16.980 a police state does is you know lie to you and hide information and cover up criminality of all of the

00:39:23.820 people involved and who like who knows i don't know maybe trump made a deal with the biden family

00:39:28.360 i don't know this is my problem i don't think it's on trump and he's got so much going on right now

00:39:35.200 that he just doesn't he can't be everywhere every place let me ask you a stupid question mark

00:39:41.040 are you stupid i i consider you probably one of the smartest people i know mark the reason i ask

00:39:47.880 you that question is because that's how we're being treated and i constantly see these twitter

00:39:51.880 wars of people defending bongino and defending cash and then i see a kyle seraphin who's on the

00:39:57.520 complete total opposite side and people are attacking him for literally asking the questions

00:40:03.080 it's not like these people took these jobs mark and they were hit on day one with okay this is what

00:40:08.440 you need to do okay then i understand they've known for the last four years that this is what

00:40:14.080 we wanted they've known for the last four years that this is what the american people have deserved

00:40:18.280 okay now let's pivot a little bit they know they've known that's what the american people want

00:40:23.280 now let's pivot to what they've told us for the last four years how many days did dan bongino go on

00:40:30.200 his show making his millions of dollars a year telling us we're going to do this this is what's

00:40:35.500 going to happen okay so you can't blame me and you mark you can't blame the american people for

00:40:40.900 sitting here asking for things when you went on air for the last four years telling us this is what

00:40:46.000 you were going to do if you were ever in power okay it's not incumbent upon us that we're the bad

00:40:51.120 people all of a sudden because we're expecting this from you you promised it you told us this was

00:40:55.900 going to happen so it's not on us you said something that tickled the thought and i went

00:41:02.080 and looked at the atlantic at the interview that they did with donald trump i haven't had a chance

00:41:06.620 to read it yet but i i saw a line that stuck out to me that kind of maybe puts it in perspective

00:41:11.560 maybe gives me a theory of exactly what why we're seeing what we're seeing and they brought up hex

00:41:18.160 and trump said some throwaway line to the extent like i had a call with him a positive call and i think

00:41:23.360 he's going to get it together well if you know about what's happening with hegseth very little

00:41:28.460 of it is stuff that he did personally it's like things that happen because of the signal gate but

00:41:33.860 then it's like fake news that disgruntled people who are being fired are leaking to the media and

00:41:39.540 lying about right like that's his problem right now so i don't really think that hegseth needs to

00:41:46.100 get it together he's probably doing a really great job at making our military into more like war

00:41:50.800 fighters and then you you raise a great point about bongino he's been talking about all these

00:41:55.380 changes for four years he gets in all of a sudden his tune changes so i think what might explain that

00:42:00.640 is that they're very concerned about comms they're very concerned about consistency of message and i've

00:42:06.420 heard things about their team being more centrally led than it has been in the past so i wonder if it

00:42:12.420 isn't like hey everything's got to run through the white house and then there's a bandwidth issue

00:42:17.320 there's not enough delegation going on and all of a sudden they're worried about you you disagree

00:42:22.360 i see your head shaking i think they're worried about making mistakes and they should not be

00:42:27.540 absolutely yeah you're absolutely right and that was what the problem was is the first time was

00:42:31.800 and and i can't like push this point across any further mark that it's not on donald trump i'm not

00:42:37.760 blaming donald trump for any of this it's he's one single man who shouldn't be having to deal with

00:42:42.840 this and that's what pisses me the hell off is that this man has given it his all mark this man

00:42:48.180 has put his life on the line literally not figuratively has put his life on the line to put himself back in

00:42:53.260 the situation with his family and they put him in this situation he's brought these people on to do a job

00:43:00.000 was expected and once again this isn't even a donald trump bad policy move which we can say in 2016 that

00:43:07.780 he had bad policy moves i don't see any of this time this was donald trump picking people who he

00:43:12.500 believed this time and you and i probably think they're still good we think they're still good i

00:43:17.980 think it's probably like an execution issue with central leadership and i'm not saying they're doing

00:43:22.140 a bad job i'm saying they need to take stock and assess whether what they are currently getting done

00:43:28.440 is commensurate with the level of effort and output that people have expected because donald trump

00:43:34.280 has different expectations than mit romney would have let's just say that right yeah and i think

00:43:40.900 the answer to that if they were objective is no this is not the same white house as january

00:43:46.620 yep but so that so that's i mean that's where my frustration is and i constantly have people

00:43:52.640 writing into me and comments and other people's shows i do give them a chance okay we are giving them

00:43:58.860 giving them a chance mark but when you've sat here and promised us the world and haven't even delivered

00:44:04.740 a thousandth of what you've promised us what are we supposed to expect what are we supposed to do

00:44:12.860 are we supposed to just sit here and wait we waited in 2016 to 2020 and we watched we watched what

00:44:18.840 happened to jeff sessions a gutless man and him turning over the department of justice to these

00:44:25.780 radicals who hated donald trump we watched what they've done to him they've impeached him they've

00:44:29.780 impeached him they made his life hell they gave him russia gate they've investigated his family

00:44:33.960 they investigated his children they spied on him okay so that's where my frustration comes it's not

00:44:39.780 with donald trump at all donald trump is doing the best job he can possibly do with the hand he was

00:44:43.620 given pan bonnie i in my opinion uh has been the biggest letdown more of a letdown than bongino

00:44:50.540 uh i mean she's just i don't understand what her deal is and i understand she's from the

00:44:57.140 establishment wing but i she's another one who's promised us the world what was it mark a month or

00:45:03.600 two ago she said the documents are on my desk ready to be uh uh uh distributed i spoke to a woman with

00:45:11.020 mark i spoke to a doj lawyer a former i won't say who it is if it's a male or female but i spoke to this

00:45:17.360 person and they said to me this woman couldn't be this this was i'm paraphrasing but this is exactly

00:45:23.820 what they intimated to me it was about 150 pages or 300 pages of documents right and this person

00:45:30.020 intimated to me pan bonnie cannot be this stupid to believe that 300 documents was the extent of the

00:45:36.800 epstein files yet she did how does a career prosecutor a career attorney for florida for the

00:45:45.380 for the united states believe mark a petty burglary case a petty robbery case file is more than 300

00:45:52.180 pages i hate to break it to her how is this woman just fooled and and that's where my issues come in

00:45:58.560 is that we have these people in there who are not if you it's either you do your job or get the hell

00:46:03.140 out it's as simple as that pam if you want to leave i'm sure fox news will pay you a million bucks a

00:46:08.960 year two million dollars a year let someone please come in and do the job that the american people

00:46:13.820 overwhelmingly voted for donald trump to do yeah no you're 100 right um this is what challenges me

00:46:22.200 is that americans from a public opinion perspective they're a temperature gauge and they're saying

00:46:29.360 things are bad now okay and that's why we have trump but they also aren't on the front lines of this

00:46:35.860 like we are taking stock of exactly what's going on and trying to decide well are they getting what

00:46:41.060 they voted for because if you look at pam bonnie's numbers are actually pretty good she's above water

00:46:46.080 above 10 points i think at least in favorability only eight percent of republicans have a strong

00:46:51.160 disapprove rating of her and so like the stuff she's doing on fox news has been good for her personal

00:46:57.440 approval but the way i kind of frame it is listen you know trump didn't pick the time like trump made a

00:47:04.540 platform and it turns out when america was ready for trump's platform they they came to him but if you

00:47:09.900 think of america as having a case of cancer you know um ronald reagan was really lucky in that he

00:47:16.580 inherited america when it had a little lump on its skin and they had to go get the dermatologist to

00:47:22.120 check it out this is stage four cancer that the patient might die on the operating table like that's

00:47:28.520 where we're essentially at right now we're talking about uh rapidly accelerating debt spiral us losing the

00:47:34.940 reserve status you know um an end to affordability and now all of a sudden demographic collapse

00:47:41.480 so everybody this is an all-hands effort like trump is not all the the team like he hired people he needs

00:47:48.520 to delegate these people he needs to hold them accountable for he listen if they're not getting

00:47:54.740 it done like he needs to do what he did with eggs f is like give us some expectations and put her on

00:48:01.680 the spot like say hey i thought we'd have it out by now and we've got to see what's happened but i

00:48:06.780 think we'll have it this month and and if she doesn't produce it then people are going to say

00:48:11.220 all right well she's not holding up she's got to go yeah but prior to any bullies donald trump gives

00:48:17.280 people too many chances he's far too nice of a guy i know what you guys see on tv is that big tough guy

00:48:22.140 but he's got far too big of a heart and he gives people far too many chances in my opinion and i'm sure

00:48:26.740 donald trump would tell you the same exact thing he's far too nice for his own good and that's

00:48:31.860 a big problem let's talk about retribution because that's one that donald trump is doing

00:48:36.620 single-handedly and it's not the retribution that the marxist left said was going to happen

00:48:41.140 he's not just going into these people's houses and arresting them he's went after these law firms who

00:48:46.820 have undermined american democracy have undermined our judicial system he's going after these judges who

00:48:52.280 are harboring illegal aliens okay and now uh we've got a little issue with tish james in new york

00:48:59.920 tish james went after donald trump for overvaluing his property paying back his loans on time and ahead

00:49:06.160 of schedule uh i'll put it at that but all the while she was throwing stones while she lived in a

00:49:13.300 uh five family glass house not four as she put down on her mortgage documents

00:49:19.520 and she lives in new york city brooklyn new york not virginia as she intimated on her mortgage

00:49:26.600 application for her home in norfolk virginia that she says she lives in

00:49:30.620 i mean yeah i bet you there's tax implications as well like this is it's insurance fraud it's tax

00:49:37.180 fraud it's mortgage fraud this is the kind of retribution that i like seeing because it's calculated

00:49:43.220 it's to the point and it's not a farce as we saw what they did to donald trump this is real crimes

00:49:49.900 being committed by the marxist dems and as you said gaslighting to the fullest extent on their

00:49:55.500 behalf yeah i'm looking this up you you know made me think of something i wonder how reddit is taking

00:50:03.260 this and so i just had to love your red and check well i mean it's like they can spin anything in

00:50:09.480 the world against trump and we can pull up your screen if you want to share what we're uh let me

00:50:15.300 see if i can find anything because usually what happens is when there's something inconvenient they

00:50:20.060 don't want to talk about it oh yeah they're uh oh well there's really not a lot here oh boy yeah

00:50:29.280 on a side note we're going to be doing a very special episode on this leticia james thing

00:50:33.740 i don't want to give it away because i want it to be a surprise but we're going to have a very very

00:50:37.140 special guest and we're going to be on location i'll just leave it at that but we're going to be

00:50:42.840 covering the story in great depth because i think it's incumbent upon us mark it's incumbent upon us

00:50:47.960 you know i want to read you a i want to read you a text message that i sent to leticia hold on i got it

00:50:52.740 one sec let me let me put it up leticia james i went to politics our politics the biggest

00:50:58.700 political subreddit on reddit okay and i looked for uh leticia if you can i search by like uh so

00:51:07.980 you can make a search for hot which which which should be algorithmically anything that like was

00:51:13.600 big recently and look at this 11 days ago on our politics new york ag leticia james accused of

00:51:21.960 mortgage fraud zero votes 13 days ago uh john turley unpacks a criminal referral against new york

00:51:30.880 attorney general leticia james zero votes another one zero votes zero votes oh finally we get the

00:51:40.440 headline new york ag leticia james targeted for criminal prosecution by trump admin that one finally got

00:51:47.300 560 votes but it's like that's that's nothing for reddit this is some grade a authoritarian isht right

00:51:56.660 here he's getting ready to purge isn't that why he has to wear an oh man like they think that this is

00:52:04.020 that i love it because everybody knows exactly what she did right it's like oh you know oh there's a

00:52:10.520 four unit oh there's a five unit oh now all of a sudden i need a commercial mortgage with a 30 percent

00:52:15.980 down payment you know and yeah go go ahead go ahead finish it you're just and there's no running away

00:52:21.920 from it but what we're going to see is leftist backflips to try and convince us that this is like

00:52:26.340 christiel knocked or something like that it's like trump breaks down everybody's windows and puts them

00:52:30.920 in incarceration you know she can't even use the excuse mark that her people signed her paperwork

00:52:35.780 because it doesn't matter if you forge the documents or someone else signs it it's it's

00:52:39.800 coming upon you as you're sworn under perjury and you know that was the defense that trump's cfo

00:52:46.660 alan weisselberg used he said you know i didn't really know and to his defense he probably didn't

00:52:51.800 know the guy was getting a driver or a trumpet he's like you know somebody signed the documents

00:52:56.120 it's his name so i don't care so she can't even use that defense but i want to read you this message

00:53:00.140 that i texted to her well just like one sec i mean like that's where judicial equity comes in

00:53:05.580 like which is based on real biblical equity which is like no this guy really messed up and yeah he

00:53:10.500 committed a crime but we're not going to prosecute him because it's probably the wrong thing to do or

00:53:14.820 blah blah blah instead they were like oh let's give trump 125 years of like you know let's nail him to

00:53:20.640 the wall and so let's send this elderly cfo to jail for uh getting a driver to work every day or

00:53:27.140 his grandkids went i mean come on but this is the precedent they set so you know what this is how

00:53:33.560 we're going to live by it and i always say don't recreate the law uh don't change the law follow the

00:53:39.600 law and that's what we're doing and that's what least tisha james said famously nobody's above the

00:53:45.000 law well guess what you ain't either so listen to this text message i sent her good afternoon tish

00:53:51.100 reaching out for comment but i also want to commend you on your real estate portfolio

00:53:55.540 what you have amassed real estate wise as a career public servant is very oppressive but even to

00:54:01.700 the likes that donald trump should be impressed on to the comment power of attorney documents show

00:54:07.120 that you signed that you were a citizen of the commonwealth of virginia this would effectively

00:54:11.820 make you ineligible to be the attorney general of new york was this not your signature on these

00:54:16.500 documents were they forged documents if so do you know who the suspect could be i look forward to

00:54:23.080 hearing from you in an attempt to clean your name and clear your name of any corruption

00:54:27.660 he responds back lost contacts who this wait she responded yeah oh man but i promise you i you know

00:54:41.620 here i'll pull the text message back up i mean but this is what we're in deal with mark this is this

00:54:47.260 is uh for everyone yeah she uh she did um but i mean it's just this is what we're up against these

00:54:55.920 people think that they're bulletproof there's only one teflon don mark and that's donald j trump

00:55:01.540 yeah who famously got through his life without any major criminal civil or civil violations all the

00:55:09.180 way up until 2015 and then it's like tens of millions a year of like not as much as yeah exactly

00:55:17.360 oh man you go you can look at every single one of those people in congress and i mean one of them's

00:55:24.940 got a dui one of them's got a domestic violence one of them's got this one of them's got and this man

00:55:29.840 didn't have as much as a damn parking ticket now you know what i'll give the democrats uh the defense

00:55:35.200 that you know he didn't really drive his car that much although there is a good video out there

00:55:38.960 of donald trump driving in his rolls royce melania's in the back seat baron's in the front seat and

00:55:44.760 they're listening to taylor swift that's the only video i've ever seen i promise it it's totally

00:55:50.860 brilliant you can find it out there they listen to t swizzy but um but you know this is the new

00:55:56.780 precedent that they set mark so you know what that's that's their choice and as i said we're not

00:56:02.580 going to recreate the law we're not going to change you're being too nice to the congressional

00:56:06.140 people you know oh i didn't use they got them filming like porn videos in their offices they've

00:56:13.900 they probably got they're on tapes with massad honey potted them they have like what was that

00:56:20.380 whole thing about a slush fund i haven't heard anything about a slush fund since trump got into

00:56:24.520 office again we should know more about that i'll give you a funny one where i live in satin

00:56:29.500 island new york uh our former congressman who's now the borough president i should tell you

00:56:33.920 um back in i think it was 2009 2010 he gets pulled over in virginia uh he got a dui but that was the

00:56:42.840 least of his problems right he gets a dui heavily intoxicated after going leaving a rangers hockey

00:56:48.140 party tells the police officer that he's on his way to his second wife's house or his girlfriend's

00:56:53.520 house and he's got another kid with a different woman so he goes to jail the the lady his name is

00:57:00.900 who i have zero respect for and i don't i see him all the time uh up at my golf club i see him all

00:57:06.980 the time hammered drunk still drives home uh who hasn't learned his lesson uh i see him all the time

00:57:13.580 and this man proceeds to tell the cops his his other girlfriend comes and bells him out he's got a

00:57:18.540 whole nother family with this woman who was an astronaut and he has his whole family here at home

00:57:22.940 and people look at this guy with respect and they kiss his ass and i look at him like you're a total

00:57:27.680 sleaze you're a total low life now my father's joke is uh uh i have one wife i don't know and i can never

00:57:35.080 vote for a man who would want another wife after having one but but it's it's it's crazy that people

00:57:41.300 revere these people they look up to them every time i see him i give him the dirty look and he's a sleaze

00:57:46.040 and he's a total scum and a total sleaze bag but people look up to these politicians mark

00:57:52.740 yeah it's perverse it is perverse the american people deserve better and there's something about

00:57:58.880 politics that attracts all of the worst people and there's really there's really no solution for it

00:58:03.960 other than to literally just jail them all for the crimes they've committed i know that's an

00:58:08.540 uncomfortable thing to say but i think it's not at all maybe you should poll on that uh i was getting

00:58:13.320 really hopeful about all the changes they were making to guantanamo and stuff like that but just

00:58:17.920 think about like the hundreds of years of just like strong upstanding community leaders like i had

00:58:23.540 like people who like church leaders and cub scout leaders and all these people who just you know

00:58:30.760 doing the right thing volunteering their time being a leadership to other people being a positive

00:58:36.140 influence and instead you have an entire class of people who think it's their job to either

00:58:42.580 maximize shareholder value at the cost of americans and i'm not a stakeholder capital guy

00:58:49.640 but i'm an ethics guy right and they'll hold other class of people who would love to work hand in

00:58:55.040 glove with them to help them rob the treasury and they think it's their divine right yeah you're

00:59:01.960 absolutely and you know what it really pisses me off and specifically the insider trading stuff is i my

00:59:07.200 father as i said worked on wall street his whole life and i watched my father mark break his back

00:59:11.560 okay i watched my father break his back my entire life not be at my baseball games not be at my

00:59:16.800 football games not be at my golf matches because he was out working and you know i was resentful for

00:59:21.260 it for years until i realized what he was doing it for he put four kids through college mark not one

00:59:25.940 student alone for any of us he put one through law school and he never faulted or wavered at any of

00:59:32.400 us and he was breaking his back so to watch my father go through life like that and you know what

00:59:36.640 the reason i was so close with lou dobbs is because he reminded me so much of my father

00:59:40.420 in the sense where he had so much honesty and so much integrity uh that they didn't falter left or

00:59:46.500 right uh did their taxes every year didn't owe a dollar overpaid their taxes everything was honest

00:59:53.400 um you know i'm sure there was years where my father was privy to inside information and never acted

00:59:59.260 on it the same thing with the great lou dobbs and i watched these people and i watched them bust their

01:00:03.660 ass their entire life mark give everything to their families and the same thing can be said

01:00:08.060 about lou dobbs he left behind a you know a a situation for his kids and his family and his

01:00:14.020 grandkids all he ever cared about was talking about his grandkids and everything he paid for and

01:00:17.860 everything he bought uh it was for the grandkids and all he cared about was putting his grandkids

01:00:21.900 through college and it pisses me off sitting here knowing that that my father did that you're doing

01:00:26.980 that for your kids the great lou dobbs did that for his kids and his grandkids yet we have these

01:00:31.780 scumbags in congress who go there make 175 000 a year but have 10 million dollar stock portfolios

01:00:38.740 and we're the idiots mark we're the idiots because we're honest yeah integrity we did a whole segment

01:00:45.820 on it i think back in the fall uh this is a crisis of integrity and i really don't know how you fix it

01:00:52.400 it's related to the collapse in religion and i'll say that people still identify very religious they

01:00:58.320 don't attend churches as much i think part of that is the lack of integrity in the church institution

01:01:03.400 as well um but ultimately what it comes down to is nobody's perfect but the whole idea is that you're

01:01:09.040 supposed to try to be right like all the time and do the right thing and that's just not culturally

01:01:13.540 relevant right now and it's super sad and i think it's probably tangentially a casualty of the war on

01:01:20.420 masculinity i think that that has a really big thing uh to do with it but it's like there has been a

01:01:27.280 concerted war on men and object objectivity and values and facts like a war on all of those things

01:01:37.280 and obviously it's an extension of the marxist methodologies they're using to achieve their

01:01:43.260 oligarchic outcomes but that stuff's got to get fixed too and that's bigger than donald trump and so

01:01:48.900 again i don't know how you go about doing that i mean again nobody's perfect but it's

01:01:54.480 if our institutions get fixed they need to be run by people who have integrity where are they going

01:02:01.700 to come from how are we going to find them how's that going to change i don't have an answer to

01:02:06.480 that question yeah nobody does mark otherwise it would have changed by now um you know you're

01:02:11.660 absolutely right and uh the only word that comes to mind mark is accountability and there's no

01:02:16.420 accountability anymore for anything i'm reading a story this morning doing my morning reading mark

01:02:21.080 not to go off into a tangent here and you and i could speak for hours and hours and hours it's

01:02:25.440 probably the only person i could do with the show because there's just so much we agree on so much we

01:02:29.460 can talk about but i was reading an article today about um schools in uh chicago and illinois

01:02:37.260 and 80 percent of the kids are not proficient in math let me see if i can pull up the story here

01:02:43.600 because this is this goes back to uh accountability mark nobody holds these people accountable for not

01:02:50.860 teaching our kids they push them up to the next grade uh and and so on and so forth and these kids

01:02:56.400 don't know how to read they don't know how to do math they don't know how to spell uh none of it let me

01:03:01.360 pull this up right here because this i mean here we go i mean it's the most insane story that i've seen

01:03:08.180 in a long time but this is what we've allowed mark this is what we have allowed uh in our in our

01:03:14.000 schools this is what we've allowed in our society uh here we go i think we've got it up here

01:03:18.560 here we go right bart report not one child tested proficient in math in 80 illinois schools

01:03:27.760 uh 2024 finds us not a single child rated proficient in math in 80 schools in 2024 no

01:03:34.320 child was proficient in reading despite these dismal numbers 70 percent of the students were

01:03:39.520 graduated to the next grade in 2024 mark so keep on pushing them through the numbers also show more

01:03:45.380 than 18 000 illinois students among its more than 4 000 students were not proficient in basic education

01:03:51.400 at age levels this is what we've allowed mark this is what we've allowed to happen in our society

01:03:57.800 because there is no accountability there's no accountability for our teachers there's no accountability

01:04:03.360 for the schools there's no accountability for anyone so why not mark why not just keep doing

01:04:09.040 whatever the hell you want to do you're getting your hundred thousand dollars a year as a school

01:04:11.580 teacher you're getting your summers off you're getting your pension why should they even care

01:04:15.180 it's a it's a leadership problem ultimately is that the the problem is is i guess there's always

01:04:23.780 been people without integrity but there's always been enough that percolate to the top that can be

01:04:27.800 strong leaders that come in and say no like we're fixing this right like this is not the way it's

01:04:31.980 going to be here and then other people look up to them say oh yeah you're right or inspired to do

01:04:36.240 things different where decisions get made that help fix these problems and i've read a lot about this

01:04:41.040 my wife's an educator there are no easy answers to the collapse in education in our country because a

01:04:47.940 lot of it is problems with the parent a lot of it is social economic a lot of it is cultural

01:04:52.420 and ultimately what you're seeing is these people are getting advanced because the system has no

01:04:58.420 better idea what to do with them but again there is no accountability but there's no accountability

01:05:04.220 anywhere right governors aren't being held accountable for the fact that the they have

01:05:08.440 essentially these uh really horrible areas that kids are having a problem being you know raised with

01:05:13.900 they're not tough on the gangs that these kids are getting like pulled into in fact they're inviting

01:05:18.840 more gang members here and so again i just i don't know how you fix it i can tell you though that

01:05:25.540 schooling is probably one of the least dirty shirts only 35 percent of american adults say that

01:05:32.260 our public school systems or performance is poor although 34 say fair um but i mean it's horrifying

01:05:40.080 and i guess this is like a lot of these people can afford to send their kids to good schools or

01:05:43.740 whatever um yeah it's bad and i i just wonder like my kids are really intelligent we're homeschooling

01:05:50.980 them they're being trained the right way um man they're maybe they'll have like boundless economic

01:05:59.260 opportunities maybe look at the like five jobs that aren't taken over by ai because i don't know how

01:06:05.440 america is we talk about the demographic decline i don't know throw the educational decline on top of

01:06:11.360 that how do you even run a service economy like that you can't it doesn't work this is more of the

01:06:16.240 debt spiral the death of a republic this is the kind of thing that happens and again those people

01:06:22.540 in leadership positions like you said are very comfortable yep i'm sure back when your wife went

01:06:27.600 to school to become an educator she said she wanted to help children and the reason i know that probably

01:06:32.280 to be true is because my mother was a school teacher for a few years until she had decided to have four

01:06:36.680 kids um and and she taught a second and fourth grade and and she did it not for the money because

01:06:42.960 there was no money i think my mother told me the year she had to retire because she had my oldest

01:06:48.540 sister she was making twelve thousand dollars a year mark teaching at a private school in brooklyn

01:06:53.760 so clearly it wasn't for the money it was because she wanted to help children and it's i think we've

01:06:59.280 gotten away from that and people want to do it for the summers off uh the pension and uh you know an easy

01:07:05.440 job because you don't send kids to summer school anymore back when i was in school if you failed the

01:07:09.920 subject mark your damn summer was ruined and you got home and you got an ass whooping because that

01:07:14.600 meant no summer vacation for the family down to myrtle beach because uh little johnny's going to

01:07:20.380 summer school not that i failed classes but you know that's what was understood well i think one of

01:07:27.040 the problems is the emasculation of society and elementary school has always been very heavily female

01:07:32.220 educate education right the the teachers are almost predominantly been although there's been a lot of

01:07:38.140 male high school students i think that's important that uh young men have male role models and teaching

01:07:44.180 positions that they can look up to and if they can't get it from a church or somewhere else it's good that

01:07:48.500 they get it from school um but we like back to the mental health issue like elementary school children

01:07:54.180 are learning how to reason they're learning how to interact with adults and what the world looks like

01:07:59.000 and the demographics of their teaching population is 18 to 39 year old mostly liberal leaning females which

01:08:06.140 again according to the pew polling is the highest incident of of diagnosed mental conditions and so

01:08:12.700 we have essentially insane people who are probably trying to propagandize these people i'm generalizing

01:08:18.400 right it might not be like this in deep red texas or maybe it's worse i don't know but it's a trend and i

01:08:25.040 can tell you i know firsthand anecdotally of all kinds of conservative oriented individuals dropping out of

01:08:30.500 public education because they just can't take the poor leadership is what they all come back to

01:08:35.160 it's all like super woke super performative not not focused on objective measures um chasing sort of the

01:08:43.520 ideology du jour and that's permeated the educational leadership level yeah you're absolutely right

01:08:51.160 uh i think this is easy for you to talk about because i see your kids and i see the way you act

01:08:55.560 you interact with your kids when they come down to your studio extremely respectful um respectful to

01:09:01.800 you respectful you know to the authority uh kids aren't raised that way anymore and that's a big problem

01:09:07.560 mark i want to turn to polling um we've kept the people waiting as we've uh pivoted and as donald trump

01:09:19.800 calls it weaving uh through i mean just about everything we can talk about uh some new polling

01:09:26.140 out in president trump's first 100 days uh fox news goes to their uh number one pollster uh what's his

01:09:34.380 name carl rove i believe is his name we've got uh we've got something we want to share here with the

01:09:39.620 audience uh if we can if we can get it up here um carl rove says donald trump is not doing too well

01:09:47.740 right now so i want to get your reaction to this uh do we got it up there we go we've got it

01:09:53.280 quote he's in very bad shape call road absolutely dumps on trump and scathing fox news segment what

01:10:00.040 they forgot to mention is fox news is filled with bunch of trump haters they call him a legendary gop

01:10:05.300 operative uh mark man's been wrong about just about everything in the last 15 years uh oh she

01:10:11.160 fox news contributor carl rove declared that president donald trump is in very bad shape during a

01:10:16.420 scathing segment segment over the weekend rose comments came after host paul gigat editor of

01:10:21.760 the wall street journal's editorial page observed that a fox news poll demonstrated that only 38

01:10:26.860 percent of americans approve of donald trump's job performance on the economy even fewer approve of

01:10:32.320 his handling of inflation tariffs and asked rove to weigh in quote he is talking about trump off to a

01:10:38.560 good start only on one issue and that's border security where his approval is rating is 11 points

01:10:43.360 ahead of his overall approval rating he gets reasonably good marks on immigration and handling

01:10:48.660 of deportation but even those he's upside down on we'll leave it at that because i don't want to quote

01:10:54.600 any more from this man who i don't think very highly of tell us the real uh scuttlebutt mark

01:11:01.020 is donald trump is underwater as carl rove tells us

01:11:03.980 on no no you can put my screen up if you want to i mean we poll natural approval nightly for the last

01:11:12.760 20 years basically and we're the only ones that actually pull it on a daily basis so we're the

01:11:17.780 experts and i'll borrow a quote mark on that so the people yeah i'll uh uh probably gonna open it a new

01:11:25.660 there we go i i'll borrow a quote from uh rich barris who says how can you possibly

01:11:33.240 pull presidential approval accurately if you can't even predict elections correctly

01:11:37.920 because all the people that are being cherry-picked right now to drive this trump collapse headline

01:11:44.100 are people who were five six seven eight even nine points to the left of us back in august september

01:11:50.280 october names like reuters ipsos abc news washington post cnn all these people were super far left

01:11:57.300 and they came back to the right a little bit but it's they're completely um susceptible to the

01:12:04.980 narratives it's like if there needs to be a narrative that's negative for trump these polls will move to

01:12:10.440 the left and they're doing it now the six of them dropped just over the weekend right in advance of

01:12:15.800 donald trump's hundred days and they were worse than any of the polls that those organizations

01:12:20.040 have put out before and i'll tell you fox news is one of them and i have a question for fox news

01:12:25.180 about why their pollster is so anti-trump and so horrible he has been over and over again i don't

01:12:29.340 know who it is but i know where you can get a good one what's his name i think her name is dana

01:12:34.140 blanton and a very nice woman very very nice woman but i don't think she does the polls herself

01:12:40.000 i think they outsource them all she gets the numbers back and and that's that uh very very nice

01:12:45.120 woman i used to sit right outside her office um well the pollster is the one doing the polling

01:12:49.920 in my opinion uh i'm up to my knees and data uh every day and nate cone in the new york times is

01:12:57.080 not he doesn't run his own methodology and that kind of stuff so um i i think that's important

01:13:01.980 too i can tactically feel the shift in trends and stuff like that but but look here i mean before we

01:13:07.920 pick this apart i mean trump's been ripping on fox news about how horrible they are i'm just putting

01:13:13.580 it out there we can do it we'll pull cheaper than any of the people that you're working with the

01:13:17.640 results will be more accurate i don't need to whip out our accuracy track record on your show

01:13:24.600 john i know i don't have to um but i will say that our approval numbers for trump are higher than

01:13:31.200 others moderately so especially more because people really wanted him to fail on his first term

01:13:37.460 and so they applied a very across the board sandbag but our approval numbers were also higher

01:13:42.700 for biden than most other people as well biden we had most of the time in the low 40s a lot of people

01:13:48.480 had him getting down to the low 30s so you can't use quinnipiac three years ago and say oh look

01:13:53.680 biden's got a 33 approval rating and then yell at quinnipiac's trump approval rating both of those

01:13:59.680 should have been summarily dismissed so here's the straight truth okay this big spike this big

01:14:07.340 light purple spike is biden sorry obama won and there was a really unique reason why that had that

01:14:14.220 spike there was they thought obama was going to come in and wave a magical wand and heal the economic

01:14:19.700 wounds of the great financial crisis suffice to say it didn't happen and so people after about six

01:14:25.700 months kind of got over the fact he was the first black president then he tried to like recreate the

01:14:30.980 entire health care industry and look at that his polling was between 45 and 50 percent almost the

01:14:36.900 entire eight years both purple lines look at that red line that's trump one it what does it look like

01:14:44.660 it looks exactly like obama polling yeah exactly like obama polling and now trump too is this bright red

01:14:51.300 line over the left and it looks like it's doing a good job tracing just about where uh trump came in

01:14:57.740 you know uh higher than where biden came in although biden had this little spike because of covid mask

01:15:02.860 mandates being lifted and what you see here is that there was this period right here uh fall of 21 where

01:15:10.200 everybody realized oh crap biden sucks like he is a bad president and his numbers never really recovered

01:15:16.460 they rallied a little bit kind of because of the supreme court dobbs decision in the midterms

01:15:21.160 but he exited office structurally lower than trump won and i think this trump two red lines just gonna

01:15:27.440 probably be higher than obama here because trump got way more votes right it makes sense

01:15:32.380 so is this like good enough or bad enough for abc to run a poll that shows that donald trump at the

01:15:42.380 100 day mark has lowest presidential approval rating in 80 years uh i mean we are on the brink of civil war

01:15:49.500 like that partly probably has something to do with it but he's doing a good job like you know he's not

01:15:55.760 going to have a high approval rating i'll tell you that right now let's take a look at that what you had

01:15:59.620 just mentioned and that's the approval ratings as we look at uh real clear politics uh and their averages

01:16:05.340 uh if we could zoom in here a little bit so that people can see uh where we're at so abc uh washington

01:16:12.160 posts of course marxist leftists who hate america and hate donald trump even more than they hate the

01:16:17.320 country uh has theirs at uh 42 percent approval rating 55 disapproval the minus 13 spread uh new york

01:16:25.840 times sienna at the same time who by the way has been uh the most inaccurate pollsters i think i've ever

01:16:31.280 seen in these last two election cycles uh 42 approval rating cnn 43 cbs news 45 rasmussen has

01:16:39.900 him at 47 so uh it's a bottom to top here quantus insights who uh also a very nice guy and uh and

01:16:47.300 you and i got to meet him uh a few months ago has been pretty spot on as well and uh you guys

01:16:53.900 probably two of the most accurate pollsters uh as for this last election somehow you guys are on the

01:17:00.300 same the same wavelength 45 47 48 give or take a point or two whatever you guys's margin of error

01:17:06.040 is it doesn't show it on here but uh whatever how are you guys so far off from abc news and new york

01:17:12.280 times sienna no we're not well first off i'll say we have trump underwater five right now i think it's

01:17:17.420 going to go back up i think we got him kind of like a at a trough right now it'll probably be more

01:17:22.120 like net negative two or something like that uh long term and so whatever there's other people there

01:17:27.800 with us but i think the news is that like read those names abc there's six of them that just

01:17:33.000 dropped over the weekend abc news washington post new york times sienna cnn cbs and then the fox news

01:17:39.620 poll and then reuters ipsos all of those okay those every single one of those organizations put out an

01:17:47.080 electoral map that showed that kamala harris was going to win forget their national popular vote which

01:17:51.720 was also off almost every one of them was at least three points to the left many of them were like four or

01:17:57.540 five but what's crazy also to me is that new york times sienna hasn't polled since november and all

01:18:03.600 of a sudden they just appear out of nowhere 100 days look at this turd and then abc washington abc news

01:18:09.700 washington post same thing you look at the history on real politics it's not there they haven't polled

01:18:14.860 now cnn cbs and all these other guys what those represent is the lowest trump's done in their polling

01:18:21.360 and so uh what i see now what it feels like to me is what it felt like back in august where

01:18:28.360 biden was losing by five then kamala harris became the candidate and the race tightened to about a

01:18:34.500 two-point race and then it stopped at two points and everybody else kept going left they kept going

01:18:39.920 left that's exactly what's happening now and and that's because they're trying to drive a narrative that

01:18:45.620 you can even see it on google it's actually incredible if you go to google trends and look

01:18:51.320 at trump approval uh i actually have it on my twitter feed i can pull that back up too

01:18:55.860 um look at trump approval and what you'll see is that on google trends data people are searching for

01:19:03.420 that term almost more than they ever have um yeah let me uh let me share this share send it to me on

01:19:11.540 twitter i can pull it up here i've got a i've got twitter pulled up um let's see uh i'm sharing here

01:19:20.440 it is i just uh add my screen all right now you're now you got me with technology this is like a proof

01:19:29.260 in my opinion this is proof that a psychological operation is happening okay and so when people

01:19:36.140 start searching for a term it usually is as the result of some kind of stimuli meaning hey they

01:19:42.560 heard an article on the radio or they got a push notification on their phone or something like that

01:19:46.980 they go to they go to google and so this blue line this is all of google's history going back 21 years

01:19:53.460 are you able to maximize the window mark yeah let me uh uh oh man you're a bunch of boomers

01:20:01.360 doing yeah i might as well be so that so this blue line is trump approval and what do you notice

01:20:08.960 green line is bush yellow lines obama blue lines trump and red lines biden trump approval in general

01:20:19.020 people care a lot more about than any other president why is that well it's probably because

01:20:24.880 he's the anti-establishment candidate and the mainstream media has been harping on his approval to

01:20:29.260 undermine him that's my theory of the case look can you even imagine that i mean look at that spike in

01:20:36.280 2008 obama's peak spike of people looking up obama's approval rating is like average trump and and here we

01:20:46.060 are right all the way at the end here in the first couple of months of trump's second administration and

01:20:51.540 people are searching trump approval as much as they were at any point in time in his first term and so i

01:20:57.520 think it's because they're literally out there just spamming everybody with news about this stuff that

01:21:02.100 trump's approval is bad and the mainstream media pollsters provided them all the ammunition they

01:21:06.380 needed and it's sick that's all they have they haven't been able to stop him in congress all they have is

01:21:12.100 corrupt media and a couple of activist judges yeah they're they're demented too mark i mean i i don't

01:21:19.080 understand what the deal is these pollsters don't care about being right they just care about making him

01:21:25.100 look bad but you would figure now coming up next year will be 10 years uh i mean we're at 10 years

01:21:31.680 because he announced in 2015 so 10 years now these people don't care about ruining their name or their

01:21:37.820 accuracy they just care about belittling this man but nobody believes it nobody cares it it empowers

01:21:44.380 donald trump's base even more by them doing this how have these people not woken up mark and smelt the coffee

01:21:50.100 i mean you know the culture of these newsrooms right and if i guess the boss wants things a

01:21:56.300 certain way and my paycheck depends on it i'm gonna you know have no integrity yeah you know the crazy

01:22:03.060 thing is is it never gets down to a granular level like i i saw the management when i was at fox news i

01:22:08.240 saw how they didn't like trump and i saw how they tried to spin stories a certain way and it wasn't until

01:22:13.280 lou dobbs was no longer there and i started working for rhinos uh that i started to realize

01:22:19.380 the the culture there they were all too scared to bring it to lou's face and they were coward because

01:22:26.260 that's what they are mark they're cowards these people are total cowards and they sit there and

01:22:30.440 they sit behind a closed door and they they talk and then they push it to the next person and there's

01:22:35.200 a few people there who they control management controls anchors and uh they never had the testicular

01:22:41.160 fortitude to do it to lou dobbs because i don't think they would have liked the answer and it

01:22:45.320 wasn't lou dobbs is a tough guy it was he had so much integrity that he wasn't going to allow someone

01:22:50.320 to drive the direction of his show and he would have given up his show and lost his show and got

01:22:55.520 fired or got canceled before he took their advice to do what they wanted to do and um you know that's

01:23:02.460 ultimately what happened and it's why lou dives lou dobbs goes down as one of the greatest journalists

01:23:07.460 of all time is he was never for sale and he could have made a hell of a lot of money mark if he put

01:23:12.560 a for sale sign on his forehead more than he made uh and his integrity was worth and i used to tell him

01:23:19.360 all the time mark you have way too much integrity to be in this business you've got to get the hell

01:23:23.800 out even when we started this podcast he'd tell me double check this triple check that and i'm like

01:23:28.520 lou it's fine don't worry about it any advertiser we had do this and do that make sure this is uh good

01:23:34.340 he'd read over contracts 10 15 20 times to make sure that they were good and i'm like lou it's

01:23:39.860 just a damn ad deal let's get this thing out of the way and no i want a lawyer to read this and

01:23:43.940 and he had so much integrity mark that people don't have anymore you know this is i'm going to share

01:23:51.600 my screen again i love that we can do this now we used to just talk a lot but this is like i think

01:23:56.120 my favorite image ever uh hold on i'll open it a new tab make it bigger

01:24:01.620 you've shared this before it's so brilliant it's so brilliant what blows my mind on a daily basis is

01:24:13.400 that the enemy of truth right now is agreeable people and they're using essentially the tactics

01:24:20.700 again i don't want to make it like gendered again but there is a very masculine aspect of like pursuing

01:24:28.220 the truth like engaging in tough dialogue a dialectic like western classical uh the origins

01:24:35.640 of our inner intellectual discourse there's something very masculine and disagreeable about

01:24:41.220 that to to say i'm gonna like do battle on the field of ideas and the fact that trump is in office

01:24:48.920 because of disagreeable people a majority of disagreeable people when americans are fundamentally

01:24:54.440 nice and agreeable folks and what's being used against them is the tactics of agreeableness

01:24:59.220 oh everybody thinks this oh trump is retribution oh you can't that's so unreasonable oh he's not

01:25:05.540 presidential those are all the things that are being thrown at people and they're saying like

01:25:08.780 no more and i we don't need all of america i was actually i was really interested um since the last

01:25:17.100 time we talked uh april uh 20th came and went april 19th and 20th a very important weekend in america's

01:25:24.500 history because in 1775 paul revere like warned of the advancing uh british troops concord and lexington

01:25:32.820 happened and it made me think about how actually pivotal that day was as compared to july 4 1776 when

01:25:40.940 our declaration of independence was finally signed the declaration of independence did not start the war

01:25:46.820 in fact it was a tactic to sustain the war because what had happened is a whole bunch of disagreeable

01:25:52.600 militia folks up in massachusetts said i don't care about the rest of the country i'm shooting at

01:25:58.140 british you know the british shot first the shot heard around the world but they're the ones that

01:26:03.240 organized the militia of thousands of troops and staked out the british and harried them through the

01:26:09.840 bloody retreat all the way back to boston where they really didn't leave and only then was it like well

01:26:16.540 we're fighting a war so i guess we might as well declare ourselves so it really does come down to

01:26:22.300 agreeable men with integrity who say like no more and that's kind of happening now and it'll potentially

01:26:29.480 become part of the cultural zeitgeist but there needs to be more leadership and you look around and

01:26:34.800 it's like trump feels awfully awfully alone and i i hope that problem gets fixed uh you know what

01:26:43.860 whether it does or it doesn't he's one of the men who i can trust to stand alone and he'll be fine

01:26:48.780 he's done it uh his last 10 years he's not you know metaphorically i say alone you know he's had a few

01:26:55.760 people by his side but uh when those indictments started coming down we saw all the rats that ran

01:27:01.160 uh under pressure squealing uh uh like like they were you know ready to be um killed metaphorically of

01:27:09.860 course yeah um but he had his his few people who stayed by his side the stephen millers the dan

01:27:15.720 scavinos um and then you know we had the people who took plea deals and ran and flipped uh which

01:27:23.160 mark it still blows my mind to the day namely one i can think of as jenna ellis the dumbest person

01:27:29.020 the dumbest attorney i would never hire for free this woman's an attorney i don't know if you're

01:27:35.240 familiar with her but she was one of trump's lawyers um not really but this woman took a plea

01:27:41.400 deal mark as a lawyer admitting to a crime that she didn't commit that she knew she didn't commit

01:27:46.460 as a lawyer this is what we were up against and this woman i mean how stupid can you be as an attorney

01:27:54.120 to take a plea deal mark for a crime that you knew you didn't commit you know the law perhaps

01:28:00.740 better than anybody as an attorney yet you took a plea deal but this is what it came to in society

01:28:05.540 people flipped and they ran like rats and that's exactly what they were yeah i think you're right

01:28:11.300 about trump too my question mark again is i think that trump's a very unique situation right he

01:28:17.660 outsider made his wealth in a way that people like can understand tact uh tactile tactilely is the word

01:28:26.440 right that he didn't he did it in a fundamentally good way like he developed real estate he didn't

01:28:31.560 like screw somebody over or like whatever right he built hotels and golf courses and he was on tv

01:28:37.620 and people he built trust on tv people didn't dislike him there and so he has a lot of earned good will

01:28:46.220 where people say okay if we send him to dc i'm pretty sure i think that this is the mental calculus

01:28:51.760 people did subconsciously pretty sure if we send him to dc he might be chaotic but he's not going to

01:28:57.560 be corrupted and america is going to lose that in january of 2028 and whoever goes on the ticket is not

01:29:05.880 going to have that same advantage on the republican side you and i know that as soon as trump the ink is

01:29:12.760 dry on trump's endorsement of whoever is going to follow him that person will now be the center of

01:29:19.040 attention of dc and assailed from every direction by every man or scumbag who's trying to gain

01:29:25.520 influence get that person to flip get the tentacles into make some kind of deal and i don't know if

01:29:32.360 anybody's going to be able to stand up to that barrage and i don't know if the americans are going

01:29:37.880 to trust anybody to either and so that's one of the things we're up against and that's coming

01:29:43.280 like fast yep and i guess and they're midterms first but mark they're almost guaranteed to be

01:29:49.520 indicted uh also immediately for uh not recycling their garbage uh i'm gonna leave i'm gonna leave

01:29:55.460 the audience here with a little cliffhanger which i i know i hate because uh it drives me crazy but

01:30:00.540 i was told by a very prominent person in washington dc politics not too long ago uh to sit back and

01:30:09.020 relax and that jd vance most likely will not be the 2028 nominee now they didn't tell me who will be

01:30:16.720 they didn't say anything more than that but they had intimate intimated with very great confidence

01:30:24.400 that it wouldn't be jd vance no as i often say because people get so pissed off when i talk about

01:30:29.460 this that that's my personal take it's not my personal take i to be honest with you i don't really

01:30:34.800 have one yet i don't know i want to see what happens over the next few years before i make a

01:30:39.580 decision on who i like for 2028 i like jd vance so far um yeah once again folks don't tune out and

01:30:46.280 and curse at me and send in hateful messages it's not my take i know a lot of you guys out there like

01:30:51.420 jd vance i like jd vance this is what was intimated to me and i've said this from the beginning just on

01:30:56.100 my personal hunch of being in politics my whole entire life that i don't think it's going to be jd vance

01:31:01.360 because we have so much time to happen you know if we look back mark in 2016 everyone's like it's

01:31:06.680 trump for eight years and then it's going to be mike pence right and i'm like slow down guys slow down

01:31:11.800 so once again it's not my personal take mark this is just what i'm told and in full transparency i tell

01:31:18.840 the audience what i'm told my people of prominence you get the last word here mark no interesting now i

01:31:24.780 have to come up with a whole a lot of other names to put on the potential list that makes it makes 100

01:31:30.480 there's no reason that just because he got picked as a running mate and now as the vice president that

01:31:35.580 he's necessarily the front runner um i mean he should but what you'd be looking at over the next

01:31:42.220 couple years is in what capacity or role does trump use him in and is he actively grooming him

01:31:48.560 and to hear this kind of decision i mean i just objectively if i was in trump's shoes i would

01:31:55.300 punt as long as possible and so to hear something like that i think well either something happened

01:32:00.800 behind the scenes it's no bueno uh which is possible um or maybe that's just the kind of

01:32:07.440 thing you would tell people in order to keep mention up maybe it's part of some deal that had to get cut

01:32:14.520 uh i really don't know um all i know numerically is that jd vance leads stephen a smith by four points

01:32:23.460 in a 2028 matchup so there is that uh he would win a potential democrat challenger uh we haven't done

01:32:32.900 the general matchups for 2028 yet i think he'd do okay but not as good as trump but trump didn't win

01:32:38.020 by that much so that could be part of the calculus uh interesting once again folks it's not my take

01:32:46.960 it's not my opinion on it this was told to me and this person didn't say that it's going to be trump

01:32:52.860 as the nominee in 2028 uh they intimated that that idea is the dumbest thing they've ever heard the fact

01:32:58.300 that jd vance would run for president and then resign to let donald trump be president again uh whoever

01:33:04.900 the nominee is would never do that i mean that's absurd to even think that so once again don't

01:33:09.980 shoot the messenger uh mark i'm gonna leave the audience with something i told you for everyone

01:33:13.640 who's a sports fan stephen a smith is the jim kramer of sports man who's never played it but for

01:33:20.400 i don't know enough about sports to call you wrong so maybe i guess but he knows who he knows who the

01:33:26.420 right pollster to go is uh go to as i can tell you that america knows mark yeah man no fans it's

01:33:34.500 interesting we'll see i hopefully i'm wrong i you know let's let things be calm and easy and you

01:33:40.200 know but i you know there's objectively things about him that aren't perfect like the origins um i don't

01:33:48.600 doubt the origins but the fact that he's been tied into the venture capital realm where the tech

01:33:54.780 broligarchy has been accused of potentially interfering with the core mega policies i don't know like there's

01:34:03.340 that question um you know where the loyalties lie and stuff like that and also the guy's only 40

01:34:08.900 years old like there's an aspect of well somebody with more experience could be better who knows

01:34:14.240 we've got a lot of time and like i said i like jd vance i met him um about a year ago i met him

01:34:21.020 very nice guy his wife very nice lady uh but you know then again they're politicians so they're

01:34:25.460 they're paid to be nice so i don't know what's going to happen uh mark's the pollster i'm just

01:34:29.480 relaying information so don't shoot me too soon for matchups too soon for matchups give it a give

01:34:34.840 another couple months mark i know when i asked you to come on today i said we'd talk for a half hour

01:34:39.440 here we are an hour and a half later uh we could probably talk for another hour and a half so i'll

01:34:44.180 give you a call tonight and we'll figure out the rest of this conversation mark mitchell at uh on

01:34:50.600 twitter at honest pollster uh catch mark show on uh rumble what is it monday wednesday friday mark

01:34:56.020 uh yeah only monday wednesday this week we're doing monday uh tonight is monday at nine o'clock

01:35:01.040 eastern and we're probably going to do wednesday in the afternoon because i think we might have a

01:35:04.620 guest so so folks after you watch this show tonight 6 p.m eastern well by the time it's wrapped

01:35:09.980 up it'll be you know just after the seven o'clock hour uh i want you guys to tune in to mark uh

01:35:15.040 rasmussen reports on youtube uh rasmussen reports on rumble uh follow mark on rumble get his rumble

01:35:20.960 numbers up to where ours are uh and um and we appreciate you mark taking the time to join us

01:35:26.460 today until next time my friend yeah good time we uh covered a lot good to be here see you soon

01:35:32.760 thanks to mark mitchell and thank you all folks for being with us today here on the great america show

01:35:37.180 we hope to see you back here tomorrow for the great america show where our quest for truth

01:35:40.560 justice and the american way continues until then may god bless you may god bless america

01:35:46.400 and may god bless the great lou dobbs folks we'll see you tomorrow happy monday have a great night

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