The Great America Show - The Great America Sunday Show： April 21st, 2024

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00:00:38.220 Hi, everybody, and welcome to The Great America Show.

00:00:41.380 Thanks for joining us today.

00:00:43.160 A lot going on.

00:00:44.840 Speaker Mike Johnson is now, I think, truly fighting for his life.

00:00:51.000 And I have to tell you, I'm not pulling for him.

00:00:54.000 I'm thinking that he should move away from the speakership as fast as possible,

00:00:59.880 and maybe the conference will deal with that.

00:01:02.400 And a lot of people don't understand how we got to this point.

00:01:07.180 I don't think anyone in the Republican conference had any significant idea 0.98

00:01:12.100 of just what an arrogant twit this fellow really is. 0.99

00:01:17.000 He has a marginal knowledge base. 0.99

00:01:20.320 His personal expertise in law, I can't judge, but I can tell you this. 0.99

00:01:25.260 When it comes to politics, this man is a fraud.

00:01:28.720 He's just following orders, and he is nothing like a faith-based conservative 0.98

00:01:35.540 that he claims to be.

00:01:37.700 There is nothing in his record to this point.

00:01:40.640 And what has it been, six months?

00:01:41.800 I mean, the man is a monstrosity of betrayal to the Republican Party,

00:01:50.800 and to, in my opinion, to the country, doing exactly what Joe Biden tells him,

00:01:55.720 Joe Biden, and, of course, his good friend, Chuck Schumer.

00:02:00.220 This is outrageous.

00:02:01.900 One and a half trillion dollars spending bill he's all in for,

00:02:05.460 despite the conference position that called for quite a different direction

00:02:11.820 in the way we do business in this country.

00:02:14.480 They wanted to see if we could maybe have hearings on appropriations

00:02:19.980 and be able to amend bills and actually take them on one subject, one bill,

00:02:24.580 and actually start running the government as the Republican Party would have always,

00:02:30.880 in its history, insisted.

00:02:33.040 It's also the third day of the trial of Donald J. Trump in New York,

00:02:41.300 and Jonathan Turley calls it an absurdity, this trial, these charges,

00:02:47.900 and what the Marxist Dems in New York are doing to this president.

00:02:53.320 I think he's not only a former president.

00:02:55.680 I think he most certainly will be our future president as well,

00:02:59.660 because the Marxist Dems have gone so far.

00:03:03.100 They've abused so much of their power.

00:03:05.540 They have dragged the Constitution through the mud and then set it on fire on other occasions,

00:03:12.980 whatever suits them.

00:03:14.400 They are absolutely committed to denying the Bill of Rights to the American people, 0.92

00:03:20.100 our citizens, and they make no secret of it.

00:03:24.340 A 2,000-mile border, wide open, turned over by Joe Biden to the Mexican drug cartels.

00:03:31.380 And no, not a peep, not a concern, expressed anywhere in the national left-wing media, corporate media, for sure.

00:03:38.480 And to think that this is what we're doing at this point in our history with about six months to election.

00:03:46.540 And I think our great challenge right now is to get to November 5th without a national catastrophe,

00:03:54.300 without a war, and at least be able to look forward to January 20th of next year is the day the country resumes leadership

00:04:07.200 that is both powerful and historic.

00:04:11.680 And Donald J. Trump at the reins will be quite a different,

00:04:15.980 it'll make for quite a different atmosphere globally.

00:04:20.160 And taking up the issue of Iran, right now we're all waiting, some on tenderhooks.

00:04:27.840 I don't happen to be on tenderhooks about whether or not Benjamin Netanyahu will retaliate.

00:04:34.500 I'm satisfied that he will, because I don't see any other way in which he could be true to his nature,

00:04:41.460 to his character, and his intellect.

00:04:45.580 This is a patriot and a man who lives and breathes the welfare, the well-being of Israelis and the nation-state of Israel.

00:04:56.800 We're delighted to welcome today Lee Smith.

00:05:00.380 He is a prominent author, a great American.

00:05:04.000 He writes primarily for Tablet and other publications.

00:05:06.820 He's working on, he says, more than a few books at once.

00:05:10.560 And if anyone can do a few books at once, it would be Lee Smith.

00:05:14.340 Lee, great to have you with us here on our show, the Great America Show.

00:05:19.220 Good to see you again, my friend.

00:05:21.040 Thank you, Lou.

00:05:22.380 Thank you for having me on today.

00:05:23.680 And thank you for the super kind introduction.

00:05:26.040 Well, I only speak truth, or I try to speak truth.

00:05:30.860 So it's great to see you, my friend.

00:05:32.680 I just want to start with, obviously,

00:05:34.720 I am as worried about the state of the Biden administration as I am about the tensions in the Middle East, 0.96

00:05:45.380 because apparently this puppet president, mentally impaired, politically compromised, 0.62

00:05:52.620 and driven by forces that we cannot put a face to beyond Barack Obama, Susan Rice, a few people, Alex Soros. 0.97

00:06:03.100 I mean, there is a list.

00:06:04.700 But what we don't know is frightening about who is driving this puppet, who are his masters,

00:06:11.740 and why in the world suddenly is he talking simultaneously to the Turks, the Iranians,

00:06:19.120 as they attack, they, the Iranians, attack the state of Israel directly. 0.99

00:06:25.760 Your thoughts?

00:06:27.580 Well, I think it's fair to say that Joe Biden is implementing the policy directed by his former boss, Barack Obama.

00:06:35.040 So I don't think this is any mystery or never mind a conspiracy theory.

00:06:40.220 Remember Barack Obama's Iran nuclear deal?

00:06:43.820 And the point of that was to realign American interest in the Middle East with those of the American,

00:06:49.580 the Islamic Republic of Iran.

00:06:51.160 So, again, this is what Biden, this is what Joe Biden is doing.

00:06:56.500 And then look at all the different former Obama Middle East officials throughout the Biden administration.

00:07:02.700 So that's what, that's what's going on.

00:07:05.520 A lot of people are saying, well, Biden is leaning on the Israelis in Gaza because of, because of Michigan,

00:07:12.380 because of the Arab American vote in Michigan.

00:07:14.280 No, that's merely a small constituency, right?

00:07:17.380 We're talking about the base.

00:07:19.080 This is the base of Barack Obama's Democratic Party.

00:07:22.660 It's the party.

00:07:23.800 That's what they want.

00:07:24.900 It's a pro-Iran, anti-Israel party.

00:07:27.600 It also needs to be said, Lou, as you and I have discussed many times before,

00:07:31.440 it's an anti-American party as well.

00:07:35.020 And this is the, this is, this is part of the purpose of destabilizing.

00:07:41.080 As the United States has been destabilized by these same figures, they are also working now to destabilize the Middle East.

00:07:51.620 This is a, this is very important because I remember 10 years ago trying to explain the Iran deal to different people.

00:07:58.220 I don't get it.

00:07:59.220 Why is Barack Obama partial to Iran?

00:08:01.900 Why does he want to legalize their nuclear weapons program?

00:08:04.940 I think, Lou, at this point, after Russiagate, after when Barack Obama tasked his spy chiefs to go after his successor, Donald Trump,

00:08:18.100 I think after the Biden administration turned counterterrorism tactics on the political opposition,

00:08:25.080 after the Biden administration opened up our borders to felons, terrorists, spies,

00:08:31.760 I think it's a lot easier to understand right now why Barack Obama would partner with a regime determined to attack the pillars of American peace and prosperity.

00:08:45.140 So fundamentally, that's what we're seeing happening in the Middle East.

00:08:49.040 Israel is a part of it.

00:08:50.600 But remember, it's the United States that has been since the Cold War, the guarantor of Middle East stability, both in the Persian Gulf and the Eastern Mediterranean.

00:09:01.760 So again, while Israel is paying a price for Barack Obama's infatuation with the Islamic Republic,

00:09:11.200 the primary target here, Iran's primary target has always been the United States.

00:09:16.780 And that's the case with the Obama faction of the Democratic Party.

00:09:21.720 And I think that as you lay it out, it's clear as it could possibly be.

00:09:26.820 And it's always interesting to me to recall 2008, 2009, as the two terms of Barack Obama began,

00:09:39.580 to think back to the amount of constraint in the part of the public, in the public, our politicians, and of course, the national corporate media.

00:09:50.560 They were afraid because this was the first black president.

00:09:55.340 And I mean, they were very, very, very careful.

00:09:59.240 They wouldn't they would walk up to talking about fundamental transformation, as he called for it,

00:10:04.960 the fundamental transformation of the United States.

00:10:07.720 But they would not challenge it.

00:10:09.960 They would not report it with a vigor that any other president certainly would have would have been the beneficiary of.

00:10:17.560 It's it's interesting now with the passage of time.

00:10:22.420 People have no problem saying Barack Obama is the the inception of all that we are witnessing under this.

00:10:31.000 What some outright call the third term of Barack Obama.

00:10:34.460 And by the way, I think there is they're absolutely right as rain.

00:10:38.680 What do you think?

00:10:40.080 Well, no, I agree entirely.

00:10:41.840 And you and I say that, Lou, and our friends and many of our colleagues say that.

00:10:46.260 And, of course, a large, a large amount of our neighbors and fellow Americans, especially who vote Republican, will say that as well.

00:10:54.000 But unfortunately, I've found and maybe you found the same.

00:10:57.360 But still, even on Capitol Hill today, people are afraid.

00:11:01.240 Republicans are afraid to to challenge Barack Obama.

00:11:05.760 And look, I think, you know, your introduction started by talking about the nominally Republican led Congress.

00:11:14.660 I think that House members could have spent the last two years starting investigations, getting documents, trying to secure documents on what happened during the Obama administration.

00:11:26.320 Right. If people believe that Obama is as is has used Joe Biden as an avatar, which I think is an accurate description, then one useful thing would have been to get different documentation from the Obama years, both on Russiagate.

00:11:41.220 Let's remember this.

00:11:42.500 These were Barack Obama's spy chiefs.

00:11:44.560 That's something that's something, for instance, that House intelligence chair, Mike Turner, could have spent his time on doing.

00:11:52.620 They also could have found all sorts of stuff on the documents on the Iran deal.

00:11:56.820 The Obama administration hid documents that the Trump administration tried to uncover.

00:12:01.600 Right. These weren't even classified documents.

00:12:03.680 These were documents that were unclassified, that they mixed with classified documents to hide them.

00:12:09.340 Right. So this could have been an effort to find out if this started with a Barack Obama.

00:12:14.760 We should get to the bottom of it.

00:12:16.700 What happened? What were the different things that Barack Obama put in place so that 10 years, 10 years after Obama or rather 15 years since he started his term?

00:12:29.460 Why does America look the way it does right now?

00:12:32.720 That's very helpful information.

00:12:35.040 Unfortunately, Republican House members did not do that.

00:12:37.700 But that's why it's important, I think, for us to discuss it and for people to be forthright about what's going on here.

00:12:45.340 Again, what we're seeing in the Middle East.

00:12:47.300 And we're with the man to have that, Frank, discussion.

00:12:51.040 We're talking with Lee Smith.

00:12:52.600 We're coming right back after these quick messages.

00:12:54.880 We will be talking about the importance of perspective in all of this and understanding the role of Barack Obama,

00:13:02.060 his intelligence chiefs and what they did and what is still occurring under their influence and direction in this in this country.

00:13:14.020 We'll be right back with Lee Smith.

00:13:15.860 And oh, by the way, I'm going to ask Lee about two guys I think were separated at birth.

00:13:21.180 One's name is, well, his name is Mike Gallagher.

00:13:26.180 And the other fellow is also a Mike.

00:13:28.420 There are a lot of Mikes, and I don't like many of the Mikes for some reason. 1.00

00:13:31.860 The other fellow is Mike Turner.

00:13:35.700 Mike Turner.

00:13:36.780 Mike Gallagher.

00:13:37.960 What a set.

00:13:38.700 We'll be right back.

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00:15:16.500 We're back.

00:15:17.700 We're talking with Lee Smith about two characters that I want to talk about just real briefly

00:15:23.100 before we get to the really important stuff, as it were.

00:15:26.680 Mike Gallagher, the head of the CCP committee, select committee, he turned out to be a two-bit lowlife

00:15:35.800 with his own, I guess, ethics that are incomprehensible to, I think, anyone else, just about.

00:15:46.320 And Mike Turner, who is nothing but a two-bit hack, serves the military-industrial complex

00:15:54.440 and those intel chiefs that apparently have something on him.

00:15:59.000 Either that or they've got something, they've got a threat that is working against him. 0.98

00:16:04.420 I mean, these two are, to me, just absolute, I'll use the word, cretins. 1.00

00:16:09.920 They are disgusting. 0.99

00:16:11.960 They are sold out in every way you could be, it seems to me. 0.96

00:16:17.240 Well, let me start with Representative Turner, whom I met while I was reporting the book on Devin Nunes.

00:16:27.740 And one of the things that happened, and this is what I really mean to do here,

00:16:33.120 is highlight how important it was, what Devin Nunes did, because these committees,

00:16:39.100 the intelligence committees, both in the Senate and in the House, right,

00:16:43.100 I mean, they send the intelligence services, the CIA, the FBI, DNI,

00:16:49.180 they send a whole bunch of people and basically they recruit House members, right?

00:16:53.480 So a lot of people talk about how, and it wouldn't surprise me, I'm sure that this is right,

00:16:58.580 that there are all sorts of portfolios on House members collected by everyone from FBI to DHS.

00:17:05.420 That wouldn't surprise me at all.

00:17:07.460 I think the most significant fact, however, again, is that these committees are absolutely

00:17:13.300 infiltrated by American spies.

00:17:16.740 And so they're pushing it in the direction that they want it.

00:17:19.720 And lots of these people who are in these committees and lots of the people who are running

00:17:23.620 these committees don't want any friction at all, right?

00:17:26.720 They don't want friction with the intelligence services.

00:17:29.300 They don't want friction with the White House.

00:17:32.420 And let's face it, until Devin, before Devin Nunes ran that committee,

00:17:38.500 there was no one who was really concerned on the Hill, certainly no Republicans,

00:17:42.400 who were concerned, well, I guess we could say Rand Paul,

00:17:44.780 but who were concerned with the sorts of things that the FBI was up to.

00:17:48.380 So the idea that Chairman Johnson, or rather Chairman Turner, that he pushed for the reauthorization

00:17:57.320 of FISA, while disgusting, should not come as that much of a surprise.

00:18:05.460 Unfortunately, a lot of people on the Hill, especially on those committees, are not looking

00:18:11.140 out for the interest of Americans.

00:18:13.020 They're not concerned about our civil liberties.

00:18:15.460 And look, if we have people who were lukewarm supporters, if supporters at all, of Donald

00:18:21.640 Trump, they don't care what happened to Trump.

00:18:23.660 They don't care what happened to Trump aides.

00:18:25.620 And they don't even care what's happened to Trump supporters.

00:18:28.360 Well, let's be honest.

00:18:29.580 It's not that they don't care.

00:18:32.200 It's that they have his guts.

00:18:33.720 And they are scared to death of what he represents, because the American people then, when he walks

00:18:42.240 into the Oval Office, the will of the governed, the consent of the governed becomes important

00:18:49.140 once again.

00:18:49.860 And this is now suddenly we're a constitutional republic.

00:18:53.900 Without his leadership, we don't want to contemplate what this country will be at that moment in

00:18:58.800 history.

00:18:59.600 It will be a tragedy of unimaginable proportions.

00:19:06.200 You know, and you said no one should be surprised.

00:19:09.320 But I have to say to you, I don't think anybody is ever surprised by the venality, the viciousness,

00:19:18.200 the self-dealing of the swap, either party.

00:19:23.740 So I see this more as a moment in which it's not about surprise.

00:19:28.840 It's not about the really expectations.

00:19:32.920 We know what we have in front of us.

00:19:35.240 An entire party is aligned against not just Donald Trump, by the way.

00:19:39.280 There are never Trumpers.

00:19:40.580 There are also some never Americas.

00:19:42.640 And there are some never constitutionalists.

00:19:45.800 These people are the enemy.

00:19:47.860 We have fifth columns, I think, for the first time, certainly in my lifetime.

00:19:54.680 We have fifth columns working that are robust.

00:19:58.960 They are active, subverting the government of the United States, our political system.

00:20:04.460 And people don't don't even whisper China, the PRC, CCP, Russia, Iran, Hamas, all of the 0.88

00:20:15.640 terrorist groups from around the world.

00:20:17.960 Everyone is sort of gathering at this wonderful sort of, I guess, beachhead, 2,000 miles across

00:20:28.960 that Mexican border.

00:20:30.600 But now it's the Mexican drug cartel border brought to you by Joe Biden.

00:20:34.440 I mean, this is hardly a time for anyone to be surprised because we are we have thrown our

00:20:41.120 gates wide open and said to every barbarian, come on in. 0.92

00:20:46.380 Courtesy, Joe Biden.

00:20:49.200 They've they've reopened.

00:20:52.060 Look, I mean, this this Lou, I think very often and I'm not just I'm not just flattering

00:20:58.100 you, but I think very often about our conversations here.

00:21:00.660 And one of the conversations that really that really struck me was you you got a little frustrated

00:21:06.100 with me at one point when I was talking about our God given rights.

00:21:09.120 And you said, God given rights, I'm tired of hearing about that.

00:21:11.460 Americans have to fight for these rights.

00:21:13.980 And so first, when you were saying that without a Donald Trump victory, we'll be in a very

00:21:19.000 dark place.

00:21:19.680 I agree with it.

00:21:21.320 But again, Americans will have to fight whether or not Donald Trump is elected president.

00:21:28.600 And when we're talking about our borders being open again, this puts Americans what they've 0.92

00:21:35.200 done is they've brought us back to the frontier, right?

00:21:38.860 This was a country settled by very hard men and women.

00:21:42.220 And so they they've brought us back to the frontier.

00:21:44.940 And again, it will be up to Americans to to defend themselves, to defend their families,

00:21:51.620 to defend their communities.

00:21:52.900 It's a terrible thing that they've done.

00:21:55.060 But again, it's it's in our history.

00:21:57.960 It's it's it's in our blood.

00:21:59.760 And so I'm just saying, I don't I don't I don't despair and I don't think that Americans

00:22:05.000 should be despairing right now.

00:22:08.080 As for what you were saying about, as what we were talking about with Representative Turner,

00:22:12.760 right, it's a revelatory moment.

00:22:14.740 We see we see what's happening.

00:22:16.760 We see what they're doing.

00:22:17.560 What shocks me about all of this is you figure even if these people didn't care, our elected

00:22:24.020 officials didn't care about representing their constituents, whether these are, you know,

00:22:28.920 congressional districts or whether these are the states represented by senators or whether

00:22:33.240 it's the whether it's the president of the United States, even though they even if they

00:22:36.880 didn't care about their constituents, you would think they would have a little personal

00:22:40.640 honor.

00:22:41.180 Right.

00:22:41.840 So when the Biden administration says just decides to leave the border open and endanger American

00:22:49.040 citizens, you would think that people on our side, people elected elected by Republicans

00:22:55.700 would say, how dare you?

00:22:58.180 How dare you?

00:22:59.780 Right.

00:23:00.440 On on my watch, you're going to try to open up the border.

00:23:03.860 I'm going to fight you tooth and nail.

00:23:06.020 And look, I would have liked an impeachment of Alejandro Mayorkas, but I think there could

00:23:10.820 have been much harder measures put in place.

00:23:13.380 I mean, not measures put in place, but much harder language coming from the Hill.

00:23:19.040 You're betraying this country.

00:23:20.900 I know that if we start issuing criminal referrals to Joe Biden's DOJ, nothing is going to be

00:23:25.780 nothing is going to happen.

00:23:27.240 But we're putting you on alert right now.

00:23:29.440 You've betrayed this country and you're in big trouble next time we get a Republican

00:23:33.520 attorney general because you will be referred then and you will be paying a serious penalty

00:23:39.020 for what you've done to it, for what you've done.

00:23:41.260 Again, take it personally for what you've done to me on my watch.

00:23:45.280 You have shamed me.

00:23:46.520 You have dishonored me.

00:23:47.740 That's what surprises me, that none of these guys have any personal honor at all.

00:23:53.380 Think about this.

00:23:54.940 Four border states, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California.

00:24:01.040 Only one governor with the guts to put his Department of Public Safety, state troopers,

00:24:07.240 the state military, the National Guard on the border to stop it.

00:24:13.420 And Greg Abbott knows he can't stop it, but he can, by golly, slow it down.

00:24:21.460 And I give him all the credit in the world. 0.98

00:24:25.620 And I wonder why this country is tolerating those other three governors and their pathetic 0.97

00:24:30.660 attitude as this country is being invaded across their borders with Mexico. 0.98

00:24:35.820 We're talking with Lee Smith.

00:24:37.080 We're going to come right back.

00:24:38.580 And I'd like to go back to Mike Gallagher and Mike Turner.

00:24:42.360 But, you know, I've had about all of my stomach can take when I think of those two treasonous 0.67

00:24:49.480 son of a guns.

00:24:51.940 We'll be right back.

00:24:52.980 Stay with us.

00:24:53.560 We're talking with Lee Smith.

00:24:56.160 Lou Dobbs here.

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00:25:27.200 We're back now.

00:25:33.500 We're talking with Lee Smith, and it's a grand talk it is.

00:25:36.800 And we thank you for that, Lee.

00:25:38.100 I want to turn to these issues that, you know, the CCP committee seemingly toyed with, but

00:25:47.380 nothing really happened, as is often the case on the Hill.

00:25:51.420 Well, your thoughts about how is it after, well, it's five years since President Trump

00:25:59.180 said he was getting rid of TikTok, and here they are. 0.67

00:26:03.260 And the discussion goes on, but they're still here doing their job, gathering data on everyone

00:26:11.620 from children to whoever else wants to be involved, and sending it back to the CCP.

00:26:19.160 All right.

00:26:19.260 Your thoughts?

00:26:19.620 Well, and also, I mean, I think even more importantly, it's the AI, as people have explained to me,

00:26:24.740 I'm hardly an AI expert.

00:26:26.220 As people have explained to me, the AI component shapes different, I guess the fancy word is

00:26:31.840 narratives, shapes different narratives.

00:26:34.060 And that really poisons the American public sphere.

00:26:36.880 So when we talk about social media and when people talk about First Amendment, it's useful

00:26:45.000 to see TikTok, rather, as a propaganda instrument of the Chinese Communist Party.

00:26:51.580 It also so happens, however, that TikTok is a very important Democratic Party platform, messaging

00:26:57.780 platform, right?

00:26:58.780 That's one of the reasons why the Biden administration has used so many TikTok influencers.

00:27:04.420 So I think it's in that context that we need to understand this TikTok bill that's caused

00:27:10.940 so much controversy.

00:27:12.440 I think that the main purpose here is not to ban TikTok and not to give Biden control over

00:27:21.360 big tech, because as we know, the Democrats already control big tech.

00:27:27.040 So the idea that they're going to get more control over big tech is kind of absurd.

00:27:30.980 Now, I think the purpose of the TikTok bill is to be able to clear it, move it away from

00:27:39.520 the CCP, get it in different hands so that political donors, the donor class that has invested

00:27:47.120 in TikTok's parent company, ByteDance, there are billions and billions of dollars invested

00:27:55.640 in ByteDance. I think the reason for the TikTok bill is to be able to give Joe Biden the ability

00:28:03.240 to get his donors paid. That's what it is, right? It's not to shut down free speech.

00:28:11.860 I happen to think that TikTok has a broader canvas than that. They are at once gathering data on

00:28:20.020 American citizens. They are influencing certainly children. And as you say, the Democratic Party

00:28:26.820 has another, I guess it wouldn't be unfair to call it another Facebook. They're using, and Meta,

00:28:34.960 they are using everything available to them. Did I mention Google? We have a Silicon Valley filled

00:28:42.900 with Democrat donors. And they're pouring money in at this very moment. They've influenced,

00:28:50.420 this will be their third go around for a presidential election. They will be trying to influence the

00:28:55.940 outcome. And it's very important that TikTok, to me, I want it shut down. I don't want Steve

00:29:04.560 Mnuchin or whoever wants it to buy it. I want to shut down because it is a, frankly, there's just

00:29:11.080 too much evil that has been. Oh, I agree. I totally agree. I want it shut down. All I'm saying is the

00:29:19.640 purpose of this bill is not to shut it down. It's to get donors paid. As far as shutting down a CCP

00:29:25.480 propaganda instrument, agree 100 percent, Lou. And not just a Democratic Party propaganda instrument,

00:29:32.800 but also a platform for Democratic parties to transfer more wealth out of the United States

00:29:39.200 to Beijing. Again, another reason to see that thing shut down.

00:29:44.260 And also because it's a peddler of licentious video and an assault on not only the senses, but

00:29:55.780 the character of our young people. It's disgusting. By the way, so much of media, 0.97

00:30:02.080 I'm not going to say that that's the only channel where we have to worry about that.

00:30:07.320 Who wrote that bill? Who was prominent in that legislation on TikTok?

00:30:12.960 Well, I mean, Representative Gallagher was part of that, and he was working on that with Biden's,

00:30:19.420 I believe, Biden's Deputy Attorney General, Lisa Monica, who, of course, has been involved in so

00:30:26.540 many destructive, destructive campaigns against against Donald Trump and Donald Trump supporters

00:30:32.680 and and and the country as a whole. Right. I will. I will say I will. Sure. Go ahead.

00:30:40.380 Well, I agree with you about I agree with you about social media generally. I will say I last week

00:30:46.860 there was a party at Mar-a-Lago for Truth Social, which is, you know, which is what was started by

00:30:54.620 Donald Trump. And now the CEO is Devin Nunez. I didn't get invited. I wasn't invited.

00:31:01.740 I didn't know. Now they're going to know. Now they're going to get what for. I'll tell them.

00:31:06.280 All right. Thanks. And and so, you know, I really think I'm writing on Truth Social. This is one of

00:31:16.980 the things that I'm writing about and I'm writing about some of the communications wars that we've

00:31:20.500 seen here over the last decade. But I'll say Truth Social really is really is very interesting. It's

00:31:25.760 not just a it's not just a Twitter knockoff or something for the right. I mean, you know,

00:31:30.840 there's some bad actors on Truth Social, but it's also it's also very moving. And I believe that

00:31:36.260 Truth Social and Donald Trump has been has been putting this on Truth Social. But I really

00:31:40.700 believe that it is a pro-America, a pro-America social media platform. It's not just about

00:31:46.960 politics. It's a it's a terrific place. And and I know I think that you and I wanted to talk about

00:31:53.040 about Devin Nunez, who's now the CEO of Truth Social. Listen to Lee Smith. He's producing that. All right.

00:31:59.800 He's he thought the old guy probably won't remember. No, no, I just thought, yeah,

00:32:05.860 let's move right into it. Because I said he was my first choice from the first moment that

00:32:13.700 that President Trump started talking about the vice president. He just he's a natural to me.

00:32:20.180 He's he's principled. He is talented. He's bright. He's experienced. And by the way,

00:32:28.840 he is America first and Donald Trump all the way.

00:32:32.240 Well, there's something else, too. I agree with all of those. And, you know, ever since I wrote Plot

00:32:38.260 Against the President and it's it's really about, you know, Devin Nunez investigation,

00:32:43.380 exposing, uncovering the biggest political scandal in U.S. history. And so I know, you know, I know him

00:32:50.860 pretty well now. And the other the other thing about him is, is that he likes to fight. And by which,

00:32:58.060 I mean, I've said that, I said, like, yeah, you like to fight. It's like, I don't like to fight.

00:33:01.480 I said, I don't mean that you like to go up and punch, punch. Right. I said, I don't mean that

00:33:06.400 you like to fight. Right. Yeah, exactly. Why are you arguing with me? I'm complimenting you. See,

00:33:13.160 you're fighting. But I mean, look what these guys have gone through with truth. Social. It's I mean,

00:33:18.240 everyone dug in against them. The Biden's SEC, DOJ, all these people were going after them. But again,

00:33:26.180 they manage the merger. It's one of the most complicated and difficult IPOs of all time.

00:33:32.120 So as with Russiagate and as with other things, Devin Nunez is a fighter. We see Donald Trump and

00:33:39.240 Donald Trump is just I mean, he's he's a marvel. He's a specimen. Right. Fight. You know, he's he's

00:33:45.620 in the arena. Right. He's in the arena. People talk about being in the arena. That guy never leaves

00:33:51.000 the arena. Right. So he'll make an arena if he doesn't have it. Exactly. He's a walking arena.

00:33:58.460 If you could give us your concluding thoughts as we wrap up here on Devin Nunez, because I think

00:34:07.640 you're right. I think he would be magnificent. Well, I heard people talking about it. I've heard

00:34:12.360 different, you know, people on social media talking about it. And I'm interested that you

00:34:15.960 that was your first choice. But yeah, I think so, too. I mean, he he knows Washington. He knows

00:34:21.680 he knows all the different fora from which Donald Trump is being attacked. And as I said, one of the

00:34:29.680 most important things is Donald Trump has to have people at his back who don't just know things,

00:34:38.300 but who will fight alongside Donald Trump. And that's look, there are lots of others, too.

00:34:43.780 There's Kash Patel. There's Richard Grinnell. There's a whole bunch of people who know how to

00:34:49.200 fight how to fight for America against the deep state. But Devin Nunez, I mean, that guy's at the

00:34:55.700 top of the list. So, yeah, I certainly see. I hadn't thought about it. I hadn't thought about it.

00:35:03.180 But then I started seeing it again on social media. I'm like, yeah, actually, that'd be really

00:35:06.240 great. They have Devin Nunez, who's Donald Trump's VP. Let me ask a question. Was Devin

00:35:12.280 a subject of conversation at that Mar-a-Lago gala that I wasn't invited to?

00:35:21.740 I'm just kidding. Anyway, I'm just delighted always to talk with you. And thanks for being here.

00:35:27.320 We covered a lot of ground and I just appreciate your intellect, your insight. And God bless you,

00:35:35.360 my friend. Thank you so much, Luke. God bless you, too.

00:35:39.200 Lee Smith, a great American, great, great journalist, remarkable fellow. We appreciate

00:35:45.420 you being with us here today. Thanks so much. And please join us tomorrow. Same time or a

00:35:52.960 different time. We're easy to we're easy to get along with. Thanks so much for being with

00:35:58.480 this. God bless you and take care.

The Great America Show - April 21, 2024

The Great America Sunday Show： April 21st, 2024

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