The Great America Show - The Great America Sunday Show： December 22, 2024

00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody, and welcome to The Great America Show.

00:00:05.140 It's great to have you with us today.

00:00:06.500 Thanks so much for joining us.

00:00:08.160 It turns out we don't have to wait until January 20th of 2025 for America to be made great again.

00:00:15.800 SoftBank CEO Masha Yoshi-san announcing this week he's going to dump $100 billion into the U.S. economy,

00:00:24.680 which is going to create 100,000 jobs in turn.

00:00:27.780 And he tells us why he's making this investment.

00:00:31.580 Take a listen.

00:00:32.840 My confidence level to the economy of the United States has tremendously increased with his victory.

00:00:43.960 So because of that, I'm now excited to commit this $100 billion and 100,000 jobs into the United States.

00:00:54.920 This is double of last time, as President Trump said.

00:01:02.560 Because I say, oh, President Trump is a double-down president.

00:01:06.920 I'm going to have to double-down, you know, $100 billion and 100,000 jobs.

00:01:12.400 This is, you know, my confidence level because that has doubled down.

00:01:17.700 So I am truly excited to make this happen.

00:01:24.000 And, of course, business is important.

00:01:27.160 Technology is important.

00:01:29.120 But one more thing I'm really hoping is that this President Trump would make the world,

00:01:40.000 bring the world into peace again.

00:01:43.700 That's my additional hope.

00:01:46.460 I think we all agree with Masha Yoshi's son.

00:01:52.260 We all want America great again, but we also want the world great again.

00:01:55.740 And you can go down the list of things that is wrong with the world right now.

00:01:59.800 A few wars going on overseas.

00:02:02.520 Different countries knocking out our back door, at our front door, getting ready to maybe make a move on America.

00:02:08.600 And you can go look at Iran, the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the Middle East.

00:02:14.240 A lot of bad people want bad things to happen to America.

00:02:16.960 But now that I think President Trump is back, things are going to start to change.

00:02:21.220 Starting right here at home.

00:02:24.080 On the occasion we had on November 5th, just over a month ago,

00:02:29.100 we got rid of some of the rhinos that are making America terrible.

00:02:33.380 One, Mitt Romney.

00:02:34.660 But Mitt Romney now all of a sudden deciding he wants to be a Trump guy.

00:02:38.660 And he loves Donald Trump.

00:02:40.300 He loves his policies.

00:02:41.640 I don't know if he's looking for a job or what.

00:02:43.300 But take a listen to Mitt Romney on CNN over the weekend,

00:02:47.160 pretty much confessing his love for Donald Trump.

00:02:49.680 Do you still think there's going to be a post-Trump Republican Party?

00:02:52.360 Or is MAGA now the Republican Party?

00:02:55.320 Oh, MAGA is the Republican Party.

00:02:57.160 And Donald Trump is the Republican Party today.

00:02:59.160 And if you were to ask me who the nominee will be in 2028,

00:03:03.660 I think it will be J.D. Vance.

00:03:05.060 All right?

00:03:05.660 He's smart, well-spoken, part of the MAGA movement.

00:03:09.480 You said something pretty harsh about him a few months ago, though.

00:03:11.540 You could not have less respect for somebody than J.D. Vance.

00:03:13.840 Long ago.

00:03:14.660 I'm not going to rehash history.

00:03:15.860 And we've worked together in the Senate since then.

00:03:18.640 But that is what the Republican Party is.

00:03:21.900 And will the party need to change?

00:03:23.620 Look, the Republican Party has become the party of the working class, middle class voter.

00:03:29.920 And you've got to give Donald Trump credit for having done that,

00:03:34.320 taking that away from the Democrats. 0.99

00:03:37.720 The man is seriously mentally deranged. 1.00

00:03:40.680 A lot of things wrong with him. 0.99

00:03:42.340 But nonetheless, I think he's looking for a job or to get back in the MAGA orbit.

00:03:47.280 But that ship has long sailed.

00:03:48.940 He's had way too many chances.

00:03:50.740 He's screwed up time and time again.

00:03:52.420 And he's cost us maybe an election in 2020.

00:03:56.420 But as I say, everything happens for a reason.

00:03:58.960 Maybe it's better off we have Trump now with everything that's going on in the world.

00:04:02.800 If you want to look at it from the other side,

00:04:04.280 maybe it would have been better if Trump had taken office in 2020

00:04:07.120 because we wouldn't be where we're at right now in the world as for wars and inflation

00:04:11.960 and just the detrimental things that are going on in this country.

00:04:15.640 But nonetheless, we have Donald Trump coming in January 20th.

00:04:18.640 And it's going to be truly a remarkable time for America.

00:04:23.520 Some other great things happening over the weekend.

00:04:25.840 George Stephanopoulos, a man who's got Trump derangement syndrome, I mean, to the next level,

00:04:32.960 reaching a deal to pay Donald Trump $15 million towards his presidential library for lying on air, 0.86

00:04:40.500 defaming President Trump, claiming he raped E. Jean Carroll.

00:04:44.380 Now, Stephanopoulos failing to mention the settlement on his show over the weekend.

00:04:50.760 I can't seem to figure out why.

00:04:52.980 Also happening over the weekend, this whole drone debacle that's happening in the Northeast,

00:04:57.600 up in New York, New Jersey.

00:04:59.000 Now we're finding out in D.C.

00:05:00.640 A total mess.

00:05:03.420 Nobody seems to know what's going on in this country, where these drones are coming from,

00:05:07.720 why they're here in the first place, how they got here, where they're taking off from,

00:05:12.960 where they're landing, and what exactly they're doing.

00:05:15.980 So to give us all, I think, a better sense on what's going on and where these drones are going

00:05:21.460 and where they're ending, I want to bring in our guest today.

00:05:24.400 He's former senior NSA intel analyst, Russ Tice, great American and correspondent of the show, Rush.

00:05:31.280 I want to begin with first playing the audience a video of Secretary of DHS Alejandro Mayorkas

00:05:38.380 giving us some insight into what's going on with these drones.

00:05:43.240 Take a listen.

00:05:43.940 Let's bring in Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas.

00:05:46.420 Mr. Secretary, thank you for joining us this morning.

00:05:49.340 Can you clear up the confusion here?

00:05:50.620 Absolutely, George, and thank you very much for having me.

00:05:55.540 There's no question that people are seeing drones, and I want to assure the American public

00:06:01.000 that we, in the federal government, have deployed additional resources, personnel, technology

00:06:07.820 to assist the New Jersey State Police in addressing the drone sightings.

00:06:12.660 Some of those drone sightings are, in fact, drones.

00:06:16.320 Some are manned aircraft that are commonly mistaken for drones.

00:06:20.120 And we do see duplicative reporting.

00:06:23.040 But there's no question that drones are being sighted.

00:06:25.920 Let me set the record straight here, George.

00:06:29.400 There are thousands of drones flown every day in the United States.

00:06:34.960 Recreational drones, commercial drones.

00:06:38.440 That is the reality.

00:06:40.060 And in September of 2023, the Federal Aviation Administration, the FAA,

00:06:45.540 changed the rules so that drones could fly at night.

00:06:48.960 And that may be one of the reasons why now people are seeing more drones than they did

00:06:54.100 before, especially from dawn to dusk.

00:06:57.720 And so that is the reality.

00:06:59.820 But I want to assure the American public that we are on it.

00:07:03.520 We are working in close coordination with state and local authorities.

00:07:07.440 And it is critical, as we all have said for a number of years, that we need from Congress

00:07:13.900 additional authorities to address the drone situation.

00:07:18.840 Our authorities currently are limited and they are set to expire.

00:07:23.620 We need them extended and expanded.

00:07:26.360 What exactly do you need?

00:07:27.360 We want state and local authorities to also have the ability to counter drone activity under

00:07:38.040 federal supervision.

00:07:39.340 That is one important element that we have requested.

00:07:42.780 And we've heard it echoed by the state and local officials themselves.

00:07:46.560 Russ, I want to get your reaction to that.

00:07:50.260 But first, I want to play one more clip from Mayorkas, who was on CNN, also over the weekend

00:07:54.600 making his media rounds, telling us where you can buy these drones.

00:07:58.840 We believe that there are cases of mistaken identity where drones are actually small aircraft

00:08:05.880 and people are misidentifying them.

00:08:08.120 They're very well maybe drones in the sky, of course, but those are commercially available.

00:08:13.040 One can go into a convenience store and buy a small drone.

00:08:17.520 There are also commercial drones as well.

00:08:21.280 So, Russ, the same convenience store that you go to to buy orange juice, you can go to the

00:08:26.000 store and pick up.

00:08:27.020 This is the commercial drones he was talking about.

00:08:29.800 OK, you see this?

00:08:30.620 It's about, I don't know, I'd say probably eight or nine inches.

00:08:34.920 That's the drones that Mayorkas is telling us we're all going crazy over.

00:08:38.060 Your thoughts to just everything he had to say and everything that's going on right now.

00:08:43.040 I do believe we're talking about drones about the size of a SUV.

00:08:48.800 I think if you went on Amazon and you look for that, it'd be difficult to just purchase

00:08:52.920 one of those right off the bat.

00:08:57.340 This whole thing is silliness.

00:08:59.200 The Mayorkas may not know what this is, or he's been told, you know, just keep your mouth 1.00

00:09:04.780 shut and, you know, just throw out some nonsense.

00:09:07.140 But this is very likely a Department of Defense program.

00:09:12.800 It's probably right now being run by contractors, which is why they say, well, this is not a

00:09:18.240 military system.

00:09:20.460 Well, you know, when you're when you're developing a system, it's run by a contractor and it's

00:09:26.120 it's it's built.

00:09:27.280 It's tested.

00:09:28.000 It's it's all basically sanctioned before you hand it over to the military.

00:09:34.480 And I am quite sure this is a classified system.

00:09:37.900 I'm quite sure I also know what the capabilities are that they're they're testing.

00:09:43.260 But I'd rather not go into that because it's it's something that's it's something that we

00:09:48.240 kind of need for our defense.

00:09:49.980 But they probably went out west and they they did some some some rural testing first.

00:09:59.540 And then they had to test this thing in a suburban and urban environment, which is why they're

00:10:05.120 you're hovering around in New Jersey.

00:10:06.580 And maybe you've seen them over your place there in New York.

00:10:10.500 So but, you know, I got to realize also something like this is going they're going to have short

00:10:16.140 legs.

00:10:16.520 So it's not like you can fly.

00:10:19.100 You can park a boat 50 miles off the coast, fly it in, buzz around for three or four hours

00:10:24.980 and buzz back to the to the mother ship. 0.69

00:10:27.520 That's nonsense.

00:10:29.800 A battery operated vessel like this is not going to be able to have much airtime.

00:10:35.660 So, excuse me, more than likely, this is something that's that they're working out of

00:10:41.760 a McGuire Air Force Base or Picatinny up there a little farther north in New Jersey, or maybe

00:10:47.400 back and forth between the two.

00:10:48.840 But this is very, very likely a government, very classified program that they're testing.

00:10:55.860 And they're they're doing this kabuki dance to try to pretend that, you know, what people

00:11:00.780 are seeing is just a, you know, a night vision or, you know, a 737 or something.

00:11:07.400 And but it's not these people aren't, you know, imagine these things.

00:11:11.660 They're actually seeing them sooner or later.

00:11:13.560 Someone's going to get their shotguns out. 0.99

00:11:15.320 Shoot one of these things down.

00:11:16.480 These things probably have infrared detectors so they can see everything that's on the ground. 0.98

00:11:25.300 They can see the people that are looking up at it and they know, you know, that's why

00:11:29.080 when people start to get too excited, they turn off the lights.

00:11:32.560 Another thing about this thing, they use red and green lights, just like we do when we fly.

00:11:37.260 We put we're both flyers.

00:11:39.020 So you need to know whether something's coming at you or going away from you when you're in

00:11:43.920 the air. So they're there and they're following all the different flight restrictions and they're

00:11:48.520 keeping within bounds.

00:11:50.360 This is government.

00:11:51.460 This is not space aliens.

00:11:53.540 This is not the Chinese or the Iranians. 1.00

00:11:56.940 This is us.

00:11:58.020 And they just need to come out and say, look, this is a this is a program.

00:12:02.460 It's confidential.

00:12:03.880 We understand people, you know, their concern.

00:12:06.960 We you know, we've got under wraps, but we really can't tell you the details and just let

00:12:11.160 it at that instead of playing this nonsense where someone's going to get out there with

00:12:15.740 a shotgun or and blow some of these things down. 0.96

00:12:18.640 It's not going to land on someone's house, you know, right.

00:12:21.780 And get hurt. 1.00

00:12:23.360 These these people, they've got to stop being stupid. 1.00

00:12:27.200 Yeah, you're absolutely right. 1.00

00:12:28.960 The reason I think it's probably government related and agree with you on this is because,

00:12:34.100 as you said, you and I are both pilots.

00:12:35.840 The way they're flying these things in the location, they're flying these things.

00:12:39.820 You have had a near miss by now on some sort of airliner or some sort of commercial jet.

00:12:46.440 I took off out of Newark to come down here to Florida on Friday night.

00:12:51.020 And I take off and we get up to altitude.

00:12:54.120 And for everyone who flies, when you get up to 10,000 feet, usually you hear a ding and

00:12:59.340 the plane will level off for a few minutes and the flight attendants will come on and make

00:13:03.560 an announcement.

00:13:03.880 So you level off at 10,000 feet and I look out the window and I see these drones and

00:13:08.960 they're at about 10,000 feet.

00:13:11.820 These aren't your DJI civilian drones that they're talking about with the battery, the

00:13:18.060 size of an iPhone.

00:13:19.320 I mean, these things are serious, as you said, the size of cars.

00:13:22.220 So I look out the window and I see him and Mayorkas wants to do the deceit. 0.93

00:13:26.160 Now, I don't know if he knows what's going on or he's playing dumb or whatever. 0.99

00:13:29.780 You can never tell because he's a liar by trade. 0.99

00:13:33.680 But I look out the window and I see these things dead stop.

00:13:36.640 And as you mentioned, you can tell by the light pattern, red and green lights, if it's

00:13:41.380 coming towards you, if it's going away from you or if it's going left to right.

00:13:45.100 In other words, if it's going left to right, you'll see either just the red or the green.

00:13:48.020 If it's coming towards you, you'll see the green on the right, the red on the left, and

00:13:51.960 then vice versa.

00:13:52.680 If it's going away from you, I didn't see any of that.

00:13:54.680 And these things are just sitting there.

00:13:55.880 So for him to try to tell us that we're seeing things, I don't know if he realizes the American 0.99

00:14:01.740 people, the average American is far smarter than Mr. Mayorkas.

00:14:07.120 Mayorkas, as far as I'm concerned, is probably in the double digits when it comes to IQs. 1.00

00:14:12.220 The average American is not.

00:14:14.020 How much longer can they get away from this, get away with this, Russ, before some American 1.00

00:14:20.820 just gets tired of it and goes out there and shoots the damn thing down? 0.99

00:14:25.840 Well, ultimately, when you have an atmosphere of the unknown and you throw all these silly 0.98

00:14:32.500 things around about the space aliens or the mothership from Iran, the good old boys are 1.00

00:14:38.820 going to get, OK, well, these are bad guys.

00:14:41.540 And if they're smart, good old boys, they'll wear some Mylar blankets to keep the IR from

00:14:47.160 picking them up.

00:14:48.080 And they'll lay out in the field where normally they'd be shooting geese or ducks with their

00:14:54.080 shotguns and then take out some of these things.

00:14:57.700 Then you've got a much bigger incident and problem than if you just came clean and said,

00:15:03.960 look, it's classified, everybody calm down.

00:15:07.180 It's, you know, it's something that, you know, we're doing that's going to be good for our

00:15:11.260 country, for our national defense.

00:15:13.440 And everybody just calm down.

00:15:16.000 You know, it's not something nefarious. 1.00

00:15:18.540 You know, it's the government somewhat smart about this instead of this stupid kabuki band 0.99

00:15:24.160 dancer, the girl from the from the Pentagon, you know, doing her smirky little, you know, 0.98

00:15:31.960 even, you know, review that, you know, and a lot of that, you know, listen to what they

00:15:38.160 say, the semantics of it.

00:15:39.540 This is not, you know, a military or, you know, well, OK, technically, that may be right

00:15:45.780 because it's being controlled by the contractors right now and has been turned over to the government.

00:15:49.700 So there's lots of semantics with a lot with the people that, you know, do know and they're

00:15:54.020 spouting their little, you know, spin arounds.

00:15:56.960 But got to come clean with this.

00:16:00.680 I want to take a quick break here, Russ.

00:16:02.520 And when we come back, I want to continue because it seems what the government tries to do, 0.99

00:16:07.220 and they do it constantly to us because they think we're stupid. 0.99

00:16:10.240 Most of us are smarter than the people who are running this place, running this country. 1.00

00:16:15.820 But what they try to do is a game of deception.

00:16:18.360 It's like they've learned from China on how to do deception with the lies and the 1.00

00:16:23.360 rejection.

00:16:25.700 We find out now that there is supposedly an Iranian aircraft carrier that's been missing

00:16:31.540 now for some months.

00:16:33.580 Ghosts coincides with them telling us that these things are maybe being launched off of

00:16:38.560 some sort of ship out in the ocean.

00:16:41.800 We find out that that deception seems to be losing ground a little bit.

00:16:46.400 Once that started losing ground, we now have a report now, Russ, that the U.S.

00:16:52.580 Nuclear Regulatory Commission released a report confirming radioactive material has been lost

00:16:57.540 in transit.

00:16:59.000 Shipping container arrives damaged and empty in New Jersey.

00:17:02.620 I want to take that up on the other side of this quick break because I'm tired of the

00:17:07.260 government lying to us.

00:17:08.200 And I think the American people deserve far better than what we're getting.

00:17:11.240 We're going to get better, but we don't deserve this.

00:17:14.200 We're coming right back with Russ Tice, former senior NSA intel analyst and a great American.

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00:18:24.440 Folks, we're back.

00:18:25.320 We're talking with Russ Tice.

00:18:26.180 He's a former senior NSA intel analyst and great American and a whistleblower, a great

00:18:31.220 whistleblower and a great American for doing so.

00:18:34.580 Russ, the game of deception.

00:18:36.400 You've worked in the government for many years, both in military capacity and then in

00:18:40.920 capacity, which you can't really talk much about.

00:18:44.700 Give us your thoughts.

00:18:46.760 Boy, we went to break there as I looked down the game of deception I believe the U.S.

00:18:51.860 government is trying to play right now between the Iranian carrier that's gone missing and

00:18:57.600 now the nuclear shipping container that's arrived empty.

00:19:05.700 Well, that nuclear container is very interesting.

00:19:09.880 I'd be interested to know what status that the radioactive material was in.

00:19:16.060 Was that something that could be spun up on a centrifuge to be turned into a weapons-grade

00:19:22.500 capability?

00:19:23.800 Was it something degraded that just needed to be put away in whatever our equivalent of

00:19:32.200 Yucca Mountain is?

00:19:33.160 Yet, I don't think Yucca Mountain ever opened up, but to be disposed of.

00:19:37.640 But back in the 60s, we had a whole fair amount of nuclear material that went missing.

00:19:44.680 And I think we ultimately found out that it ended up in Israel.

00:19:50.020 Now, you can't imagine what the Israelis did with it. 0.88

00:19:55.720 So, yeah, that's something to be concerned about.

00:20:01.200 I mean, I'd have some folks with basically some radioactive detectors out there trying to

00:20:09.120 figure out where that is and pronto.

00:20:10.680 But do you think it's a game of deception by the government or do you think there's actually

00:20:15.700 a shipping container out there that arrived empty?

00:20:18.160 I saw on Twitter, and this is unconfirmed, the radioactive material that was in there

00:20:22.640 was for the likes of a PET scanner, something that you take PET scans with.

00:20:29.020 But, you know, it just doesn't make sense.

00:20:31.520 You talk about that Iranian carrier.

00:20:34.800 It's gone missing.

00:20:35.740 Nobody knows where it is.

00:20:36.900 Well, clearly, it's not off the coast of America.

00:20:39.060 I mean, it's not something – it's not a submarine, Russ.

00:20:42.280 It's not something you can hide underwater.

00:20:44.140 It's not something you can bury very easily.

00:20:47.760 You mentioned infrared technology.

00:20:49.340 You run an infrared plane or a drone over the ocean, you know, 20, 30 miles offshore.

00:20:56.040 It's very simple to figure this out, Russ, is what I'm trying to say.

00:21:00.400 You run a scan 20, 30 miles offshore, and you figure out what the drone distance is,

00:21:04.680 and you narrow your search area of what you can find.

00:21:06.740 If you don't see the Iranian ship there or any sort of carrier ship there,

00:21:09.960 they're probably not coming from there.

00:21:11.320 What's your thoughts?

00:21:11.940 Well, something that's truly dangerous when the government transports it,

00:21:19.820 they normally do it very quietly, but they'll have chaser cars,

00:21:26.020 guys with, you know, automatic weapons that are all, you know,

00:21:30.100 but they try to make it look like it's just a regular shipment of, I don't know,

00:21:33.820 bananas coming up from the south or something.

00:21:36.080 But the security around something that's dangerous would be very tight but very under the cover.

00:21:44.480 You know, you'd be driving down the highway and you wouldn't even know that you're passing a truck

00:21:50.760 with weapons-grade nuclear material that's going from one place to another

00:21:54.880 or that's going to be disposed of.

00:21:58.700 So, you know, it's hard to say.

00:22:02.520 I can't believe that if this was something that's very dangerous that the government doesn't know with it,

00:22:08.240 I mean, if it's just something that they put in x-ray machines or something like that,

00:22:12.820 it could be, you know, that some bad guys decided, you know, to take off with it.

00:22:17.540 And in that case, maybe the FBI can do their real job and find out what happened to that.

00:22:23.100 But if this was truly dangerous, the government normally has people, you know,

00:22:28.880 they're making sure that it gets where it needs to go.

00:22:34.700 Mayorkas, Paul, and George Stephanopoulos,

00:22:36.940 and we're not going to play any more videos of Mayorkas or Stephanopoulos.

00:22:40.320 We apologize for making you guys have to look at both of them in the first place.

00:22:44.340 But he says they're limited in their authorities to incapacitate the drones.

00:22:49.420 What will we find out if someone does shoot down one of these drones?

00:22:54.700 I mean, they say they're doing survey work or looking for nuclear equipment or whatever.

00:23:00.600 The story changes every single day about what exactly these drones are doing.

00:23:07.300 Do you believe Mayorkas actually knows what they're doing? 1.00

00:23:12.440 Who knows and who doesn't know these top secret missions?

00:23:15.780 You know, who would be in the loop?

00:23:16.780 Because President Trump tweeted out the other day, if we don't know where these things are coming from, shoot them down.

00:23:22.940 Mayorkas would not be in the loop. 0.77

00:23:25.440 Most everybody in the Pentagon would not be in the loop.

00:23:30.360 This would probably be under a SAP program, special access program.

00:23:33.720 And only only a select people that were involved in building the program and funding it.

00:23:42.700 And somebody at the Pentagon is in charge of this.

00:23:46.080 They would know.

00:23:47.120 But they have to keep their mouths shut.

00:23:49.560 So what I mean, I was I worked all these SAP programs.

00:23:52.260 You always had to come up with with explanations, logical explanations of if you had a problem and something got compromised, you had to have something to say that would be logical, logical to explain, you know, a level of compromise.

00:24:08.300 And we would even have explanation A, B, C and D, you know, of varying levels of depending on how bad your system got compromised as to how many, you know, all these explanations as to what it really could be.

00:24:22.440 I mean, they're saying things like, well, it's just commercial aircraft.

00:24:25.460 And, you know, that's a very sad level A explanation.

00:24:32.540 So whoever whoever's involved, if if Mayorkas did know, which I don't think he does, then that would be that would be pretty silly.

00:24:43.560 So I haven't I don't think he knows there.

00:24:46.980 You know, they're putting this thing under a pretty deep classification cover.

00:24:52.740 And like I said, all they need to do is come out and say, look, it's something that we can't talk about.

00:24:59.180 Don't be worried.

00:25:00.440 It's government sponsored and we're taking care of it.

00:25:04.960 But, yeah, there's a lot of people that would not know.

00:25:07.440 We have a thing called a bigot list.

00:25:09.120 A bigot list are all the people in a SAP program that are cleared.

00:25:12.680 Some programs, some special access programs, they have very short bigot lists of the people that are allowed to know.

00:25:20.460 Maybe only 20 people.

00:25:21.620 So, you know, I can't imagine this system would have such a short bigot list, though.

00:25:28.360 You know, Russ, everyone's got a friend at some point in their life who was never able to sneakily do something.

00:25:36.220 Right.

00:25:36.380 You tell me, hey, go do this.

00:25:38.320 And they bang every drum and pot and pan trying to do the sneaky maneuver.

00:25:43.040 Whether it be something in class as a kid or doing mischief around the neighborhoods or whatever.

00:25:49.140 There was always that one friend who was obnoxious and got caught.

00:25:53.220 And the government, the way the government is running, if this is a SAP program, that's and there's 20 or 30 people who know exactly what these things are doing.

00:26:02.320 I mean, they're not very good at their jobs.

00:26:05.180 I mean, why did they not have a plan in place to say, hey, here's the deal.

00:26:10.740 We're going to be running this drone program.

00:26:12.880 We're doing aerial survey work.

00:26:14.520 That's a very common thing that people do with drones.

00:26:16.300 We're doing aerial surveys.

00:26:17.600 And they could have launched these things up.

00:26:19.620 They could have got them.

00:26:20.840 Bang, bang, bang. 0.89

00:26:21.540 The other thing that doesn't make sense is that these things are up here now for days, going on weeks.

00:26:27.880 What can possibly be that you can't get like that?

00:26:32.800 You guys have the things going to be. 1.00

00:26:34.360 The government is absolutely so stupid. 1.00

00:26:37.880 We had the balloon rust that flew over the continental United States. 1.00

00:26:40.860 It waited until it got off the coast of Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, and then shoot down with a $400,000 Sidewinder missile. 1.00

00:26:47.500 I mean, how stupid has this government got and their contractors, Russ? 1.00

00:26:52.440 Where are they hiring these folks from? 1.00

00:26:56.480 You got to wonder if they're part of the diversity hire program or something.

00:27:04.520 Maybe the guy running it is wearing a dress and he's worried about his eyeliner and his rouge or something not working out quite well.

00:27:14.060 He's with his mirror instead of his control stick.

00:27:17.500 So, yeah, you got to wonder about competency these days.

00:27:23.480 You know, who knows?

00:27:26.760 Like I said, in my day, we tried to be pretty responsive.

00:27:31.540 But even then, we had folks that wanted to, because with some of the stuff I had, we had no control.

00:27:39.240 We had no oversight.

00:27:40.020 So, some of the guys wanted to shoot from the hip.

00:27:43.100 And we had some issues that we did some things that went a little bit awry and we caused some damage.

00:27:51.200 And one time, I got called in when I got left out of the loop on purpose.

00:27:55.380 Excuse me.

00:27:58.380 Because I was always the one that said, hey, we need to we need to make sure we have strict, strict controls.

00:28:04.340 And they're like, oh, we'll do whatever the hell we want.

00:28:06.240 We have no oversight. 1.00

00:28:07.120 Well, then they went and they did something stupid. 0.99

00:28:09.600 And then they called me in to try to, you know, explain, oh, we need an explanation for the Secretary of Defense right away. 0.99

00:28:16.240 This was at NSA.

00:28:17.380 And I was like, wait a minute.

00:28:18.960 I didn't even know you guys were using the capability.

00:28:21.740 And now you want me to, you know, you want me to pull your caboose out of the fire?

00:28:25.820 Right.

00:28:26.120 Which is pretty much what was happening.

00:28:28.100 Matter of fact, that's one of the things that when I did go to Congress to talk to them about that I had to bring up.

00:28:33.560 But, you know, it's it's pretty sad and we need to have some controls and they just need to have some common sense that someone should have thought that if we fly these things around urban environments, you know, at a low altitude and the size of an SUV that people are going to and with lights, especially people are going to notice.

00:28:56.300 So, you know, some of these people need to just wake up or maybe they need to be replaced by someone with some common sense.

00:29:05.840 They definitely need to be replaced with someone with common sense.

00:29:08.560 And hopefully the Pentagon, it's Pete Hanks that that comes in and does that, because I can't think of a better way to blow your cover than what exactly these people are doing.

00:29:18.120 And if it's an undercover program that they're using, maybe to plan an overseas mission and Iran knows they're not the ones flying the drones.

00:29:27.980 And I'm surprised we haven't heard Russia, by the way, because that's usually a good scapegoat when President Trump's around.

00:29:33.940 Russia is not flying these drones or the Palestinians aren't flying these drones.

00:29:38.780 They figure it out right away, Russ. It's an American operation. 0.84

00:29:43.820 The fact that President Trump is, you know, now saying he doesn't know what's going on.

00:29:49.080 Would he be one to know that the president's elect and the president are presumably getting the same classified briefings right now as we're just under a month away from President Trump retaking office?

00:30:00.760 Is this something President Trump would have been briefed on?

00:30:05.240 Well, not necessarily.

00:30:08.780 But, you know, you might want to put something.

00:30:13.260 If they if they're going to handle it and they and they would tell the people, you know, that this is going to be, you know, something and don't worry about it, I don't think it would show up in the president's brief.

00:30:22.400 But if it's considered something very highly touchy, it might end up in the briefing.

00:30:28.700 But we know now that President Trump did not get an awful lot of information from the intelligence community.

00:30:35.060 Matter of fact, the intelligence community was quite pernicious in the way they came after the president himself.

00:30:43.800 They with with their, you know, their knives as if they were going after Caesar on the Ides of March.

00:30:50.040 So it's I mean, I mean, for instance, the if I were the the assassination, the killing of of Jeffrey Epstein was done when when President Trump was in office and no one no one told him that more than likely the CIA went in to kill Jeffrey Epstein.

00:31:08.880 So. So and I'm quite sure that was a government sponsored hit.

00:31:14.080 So. Yeah. And, you know, you would think that's that's a pretty high level to want to talk to the president about, but that was the deep state.

00:31:22.820 So. I don't know how security clearances work and, you know, who's privy to what knowledge, but if President Trump goes in or Joe Biden goes in and says, I want to know what's going on.

00:31:37.720 You have to tell him, listen, this is the shop we're running.

00:31:41.180 We're looking for X, Y and Z.

00:31:42.320 The the president may not know, you know, what's going on because the information is being kept from him and he's being given dog and whistle shows, a dog, dog and pony and bells and whistles or just plain not telling him, you know, period what's going on.

00:32:01.220 That very I think that happened quite often with President Trump with with our current president.

00:32:07.120 And I don't think even if you told him he'd remember half an hour later, so it doesn't really matter with that one.

00:32:14.160 But, you know, I assume it was some of his puppeteers, his puppet masters would know or maybe even not.

00:32:23.760 So, you know, the answer is, who knows?

00:32:27.660 But like I mentioned with Jeffrey Epstein, you know, that was a government hit and certainly President Trump was not made aware of it.

00:32:34.160 So and of course, that's never been investigated.

00:32:37.120 And I certainly hope that the Mr. Patel and company do a little bit of research as well as the future director of CIA as to what really happened there and to bring all that to light.

00:32:51.140 There's an awful lot of things that have happened that that need to be explored.

00:32:57.260 Yeah. Yeah, you're absolutely right.

00:32:59.740 The deception, like I said, that we see in this country right now is one that you see out of China. 1.00

00:33:05.240 And we know how China runs their regime and it's not the way the American government should be doing business. 0.65

00:33:09.780 I want to take one more quick break here.

00:33:11.240 We're talking with former senior NSA intel analyst Russ Tice and get Russ's take as we conclude here in the in the next segment.

00:33:18.620 Where this country goes and foreign policy wise and what we have to look forward to and what we have to look out for as we look now just about a month away for President Trump returning to office.

00:33:31.940 We're coming right back with Russ, folks.

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00:34:39.780 Folks, we're back.

00:34:40.680 We're talking with Russ Tice, former senior NSA intel analyst and great American.

00:34:46.080 Russ, I want to get your sense on the world, where we go now with President Trump back in office.

00:34:52.400 But first, I want to turn to Syria. 0.92

00:34:55.280 And I guess it's the falling of Syria. 0.85

00:34:59.720 Bashar al-Assad fleeing to Russia.

00:35:03.060 President Trump sending out a true social message saying America should have nothing to do with this.

00:35:08.080 This is Syria.

00:35:08.920 Let's stop getting involved in the world's problems.

00:35:12.240 Joe Biden immediately goes and bombs the hell out of the place.

00:35:15.760 What happens now in Syria?

00:35:19.380 Well, that's a very interesting question.

00:35:21.680 I mean, you've got so many factors involved in what's going on in Syria.

00:35:25.340 You've got Bashar al-Assad was supported by Russia.

00:35:31.400 And, of course, you've got the terrorist factions being supported by Iran that are proxied through Syria.

00:35:40.240 And Russia has an interest in the seaport and the airport that they're using for military bases, which is their –

00:35:48.860 and I think their only maintenance facility that they have is basically that Syrian facility.

00:35:56.580 So that's a Russian interest.

00:35:59.000 I mean, the United States has basically been going after the Muslim Brotherhood and bombing the hell out of them by also in working with the Kurds. 0.99

00:36:11.900 The Kurds are going after – were going after Bashar and some of the Muslim capability – rebel groups, especially in the north.

00:36:21.280 But they also were in alliance with the Kurds, but of course the Turks hate the Kurds.

00:36:27.960 And at the same time, they're invading northern Syria to go after Kurdish forces, especially – and then the Kurds themselves have different factions.

00:36:39.840 Some want to create their own country.

00:36:42.080 And, of course, the Turks immediately want to go after those. 0.97

00:36:44.980 Some of these factions have also taken up, you know, residents in northwest Iraq.

00:36:54.500 So you've got all of these different factions.

00:36:57.340 And now Israel is in the mix, too.

00:37:00.340 Now they've got military forces into the Golan Heights area.

00:37:05.840 And you've got the U.N. buffer area that's now in jeopardy with the Israelis down south. 1.00

00:37:10.900 So it's like trying to juggle 20 different beach balls all at the same time.

00:37:21.540 Ultimately, you know, we hear that the guy that's running the group that took over Damascus is trying to give women civil liberties and all these things,

00:37:32.620 freeing all the prisoners.

00:37:35.060 And a couple of Americans, I think, that were in prison have been, you know, released as well.

00:37:39.900 But, I mean, we're going to have to let this thing settle to find out, ultimately, you know, where everyone stands

00:37:48.640 and not just go whacking things willy-nilly or bombing this or that.

00:37:52.840 You know, think about what happened with Osama bin Laden, I mean, with our state president, Obama.

00:38:00.520 I mean, his State Department decided we were going to find the moderate Muslim rebels

00:38:07.240 and support them against Bashir al-Assad, and they turned out being that they were ISIS.

00:38:14.200 Right.

00:38:14.400 So the creation of ISIS was literally done by our CIA and our president, Barack Obama.

00:38:23.160 So we have to be careful, you know, who we pick out is who we want to ultimately be in the powers.

00:38:30.820 You know, this whole thing started with the Arab Spring, where a whole lot of other Arab states.

00:38:37.440 And not only that, you've got other Arab nations.

00:38:39.840 The whole Gulf, you know, Saudi Arabia and the UAE and Qatar and Bahrain and Yemen.

00:38:48.320 I mean, not Yemen, but Oman.

00:38:50.260 They're all backing the Sunni side of this fact, as far as rebels. 0.95

00:38:57.680 And then you've got the Shia side being the Iran factor, and they're throwing money and capabilities 1.00

00:39:05.120 and buying weapons for different countries.

00:39:06.780 So you've got all these interests in Syria, and it's just one jumble of nightmare trying to figure out who's who. 0.67

00:39:14.780 Are you even a little bit surprised that America and our politicians still haven't learned their lesson

00:39:21.660 since the fall of Saddam Hussein and what we've done to Iraq?

00:39:27.540 Well, no, I'm not.

00:39:30.200 You know, because ultimately, every time we go send something, some weapons capability somewhere,

00:39:35.400 or we bomb something, we have to replace it with new bombs.

00:39:38.460 You know, I was deeply involved initially right after 9-11, taking my space capabilities,

00:39:46.720 which were normally on a strategic level, and putting them into a tactical level,

00:39:50.640 which was difficult, and hunting down Osama bin Laden and company.

00:39:54.300 And we started using space capabilities to do that, and we had him very quickly pinned down

00:40:00.060 into our border in that mountain.

00:40:01.260 We were begging, we were begging President W. Bush, begging him to send in the 82nd Airborne,

00:40:10.820 the 101st Airborne, and the backside of that mountain, because we knew it was porous, 0.94

00:40:15.200 and then go in and kill every living thing in that mountain. 0.96

00:40:18.480 And we could have done it very quickly. 0.99

00:40:20.380 We would have had Osama bin Laden, and we wouldn't have to stay in Afghanistan. 0.91

00:40:26.700 And at first, I couldn't understand why.

00:40:29.560 Why did we not take care of business when we had the opportunity?

00:40:32.880 We had them right there on our sites.

00:40:34.680 It's because they did not want to.

00:40:36.880 They wanted an extended war in Afghanistan.

00:40:39.900 They wanted to spend billions and billions of dollars there, and trillion or more,

00:40:45.980 because the military-industrial complex and the war profiteers, 0.77

00:40:51.280 I like to call them like Ozzy Osbourne, the war pigs, wanted to make billions of dollars. 1.00

00:40:57.420 The Darth Dick Cheney, Darth Cheneys of the world, and Oliverton, that's what it was all about. 0.54

00:41:03.540 It was all about the money to be made.

00:41:06.180 And who cares how many boys and our girls in the military come home in boxes with flags draped on,

00:41:13.140 or how many civilians, tens of thousands of Afghani civilians.

00:41:19.280 And then, ultimately, the same thing in Iraq that happened.

00:41:23.660 So it was all about the money.

00:41:25.800 It's all about every time we expend these capabilities, we have to replace them.

00:41:30.380 And there are people that are the war profiteers that are making lots of money in doing so.

00:41:35.820 I had a good friend who was in the Marines.

00:41:38.120 He's out of it now, retired.

00:41:39.820 And he used to tell me stories.

00:41:41.760 The kids in Iraq used to throw rocks at him and throw rocks at their helicopters

00:41:46.320 because they're trained to hate Americans.

00:41:48.000 And, I mean, how can you not blame them?

00:41:51.960 Look at what happened to their country after America came in and tore the place up. 0.94

00:41:58.380 The kids, the American civilians who were over there whose lives were ruined over it.

00:42:02.500 I mean, it's just everybody who was destroyed by it.

00:42:05.720 Now the government's looking to do, it seems, probably the same thing over in Syria.

00:42:10.840 And if Trump did not win on November 5th, I think we'd probably see just that. 0.99

00:42:17.300 Or something like in Afghanistan where you've got now the Taliban running the damn country. 0.97

00:42:23.600 I mean, it's like we're not living in a sane world right now with all the terrible things that have happened. 0.99

00:42:31.300 Russ, in just four years, four years ago, there was, you know, crazy people.

00:42:36.600 But the world is, I think, a lot more sane than it is now.

00:42:40.140 I think you have people now totally off their rockers around the world.

00:42:44.480 Putin goes into Ukraine.

00:42:48.880 Hamas goes into a musical conference on October 7th and starts killing innocent people. 0.67

00:42:57.180 Iran fueling proxy wars over Lebanon.

00:43:01.620 I mean, you've got Israel blowing the hell out of everyone around them. 1.00

00:43:07.540 How do you tame this all down, Russ?

00:43:10.340 It's like everywhere you go, if you throw a dart at a map in the Middle East, there's something going on there that wasn't happening four years ago.

00:43:18.160 When you have a weak and compromised leader, leader, you know, most powerful man in the world, you know, you can't say that of Biden.

00:43:26.880 But, you know, once people feel that they have no one that's going to, you know, put a check on them, then they'll do what they want to do, which is why President Trump did not have these issues.

00:43:40.420 When you deal with strength, people, you know, these are all areas where they respect strength.

00:43:45.880 And as soon as you show weakness, they're going to take advantage of it.

00:43:49.620 And this, you know, just the same as a lot of, you know, our economy going down the hole and everything else.

00:43:56.340 We've we've had the most the horrible presidency and we, you know, I hope on the 20th of January, we're finally going to be back into a position where we have a leader that knows how to negotiate, knows how to to to to use a strain, a strength position to deal with the world politic.

00:44:19.340 And, you know, and that's what they respect. And that's when they'll get back in line and we'll have, you know, hopefully a world that not on the brink of blowing is blowing everybody up.

00:44:31.860 Yeah, I think you're absolutely Russ, right? Russ, folks, for all you guys listening, Russ is not a politician.

00:44:38.200 He's not a man who's ever been involved in politics in his life.

00:44:40.860 As far as I'm concerned, I don't even think Russ is a career of voting Republican, but he worked in these agencies who have caused and helped cause destruction across this country, help cause destruction against President Trump and democracy.

00:44:57.220 You know, and I think it's probably brought Russ to this point in his life where he sees what can happen to people.

00:45:04.640 He witnessed himself. What happened to him when these dark forces come at you?

00:45:09.800 Russ, I want to give you the last word here as we conclude. The floor is yours, whatever you want to say.

00:45:17.780 Speaking about party, you know, I was a Republican and until George W. Bush, I had so much, you know, all the whistleblowing that came out with me initially was was against the neocons.

00:45:30.640 Right. And under George W. Bush, I was so disgusted, I became an independent.

00:45:36.700 Yeah. Then a few years ago, I jumped back into the Republican Party because I started to see, you know, where the neocons were starting to wane.

00:45:47.340 And we had a president. I saw a presidency under under Trump.

00:45:51.580 I didn't vote for President Trump at first. I did write ins for Rand Paul because I believed our economy needed to be fixed.

00:45:58.680 Right now, we have a country on the brink of of losing our republic.

00:46:05.960 And and the only man the only man for that is is President Trump.

00:46:11.680 So so he he has to save our republic.

00:46:15.920 And soon after that, hopefully we can work on, you know, getting our our financial situation in place.

00:46:21.900 But the bottom line is it doesn't it shouldn't depend on whether you're a Republican or a Democrat.

00:46:29.160 You know, these are issues that that that affect us all.

00:46:34.180 Most recently, if anyone who went to the grocery store and tried to buy groceries for their family or pay their their auto insurance.

00:46:42.220 And world security, you know, in a nuclear conflagration, we all we all fry.

00:46:50.300 So we all fry together.

00:46:53.000 So.

00:46:54.720 We should one, you know, even if it was a liberal Democrat, Republican president, if he or she dealt with a position of strength.

00:47:05.140 I mean, I, you know, bite my tongue on some of the liberal policy stuff, but we haven't had anything like that.

00:47:12.420 And everyone should be getting on board with with fixing and writing this ship.

00:47:17.880 Yeah.

00:47:18.700 Yeah.

00:47:18.940 You're absolutely right.

00:47:20.160 World peace.

00:47:21.020 I mean, it does good for everybody.

00:47:23.300 Russ, it does good for the average person and it does good for the governments.

00:47:27.260 I mean, to not be so entangled with the military industrial complex, I hope to God over these next four years, you know, President Trump and his administration and some of these non-RINO senators get their heads on straight and end these wars.

00:47:46.120 You know, let Americans go to sleep at night knowing the world is safe.

00:47:50.360 Let Americans go travel abroad knowing they're safe where they're going because it's really no way to live. 0.96

00:47:56.760 We shouldn't be living our lives where we constantly have to worry about North Korea launching a nuclear weapon to California or China launching a nuclear weapon into Taiwan or Russia launching a nuclear weapon into America or Iran launching a nuclear weapon.

00:48:11.420 It's no place to live.

00:48:12.640 At the end of the day, Russ, we're all humans.

00:48:15.660 And I think people need to get their act together.

00:48:17.820 It starts with these rhinos and war hawks who all they want is war. 0.94

00:48:22.540 They've got to go.

00:48:23.820 Those days are over.

00:48:24.860 The days of George W. Bush are done.

00:48:28.320 The days of Chick Cheney and Liz Cheney are done.

00:48:31.400 This is Trump's party now.

00:48:32.680 We all know where Trump sits on the war issue.

00:48:36.100 He doesn't want any part of it.

00:48:37.400 He wants nothing to do with it.

00:48:38.520 And he wants world peace.

00:48:40.180 And I think that's exactly what we should give him.

00:48:42.660 Russ Tice, you're a great American.

00:48:43.980 Thanks so much for joining us today.

00:48:45.800 Thanks, John.

00:48:46.720 Thanks, everybody, for joining us today here on The Great American Show.

00:48:49.320 And thanks to the great Russ Tice for joining us.

00:48:51.220 A special shout out to my good friends, Scott and Arthur Poole, for allowing me to stay on their boat over this weekend down here in Florida as I get ready to head back to New York.

00:48:59.660 We'll see you all back here tomorrow on The Great America Show, where our quest for truth, justice, and the American way continues.

00:49:05.200 Until then, may God bless you.

00:49:06.920 May God bless America.

00:49:07.960 And may God bless the great Blue Dobbs.

The Great America Show - December 22, 2024

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