The Great America Show - The Great America Sunday Show： February 16, 2025

00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody, and welcome to The Great America Show.

00:00:05.240 It's great to have you with us today.

00:00:06.640 Thank you so much for joining us.

00:00:08.460 President Trump meeting with the King of Jordan yesterday, King Abdullah.

00:00:12.540 Jordan agreeing to accept 2,000 Palestinian children with medical issues immediately after

00:00:18.600 his meeting with President Trump.

00:00:20.440 Jordan's king also said neighboring Arab nations will soon meet to discuss the relocation of

00:00:25.640 Palestinians out of Gaza. 0.87

00:00:27.480 This is President Trump looks to make Gaza great again, announcing last week that U.S.

00:00:34.300 would take over control of Gaza and slowly start to rebuild it as a safe haven over in 0.96

00:00:40.820 the Middle East.

00:00:42.020 All it took was President Trump to meet with King Abdullah of Jordan to make that happen.

00:00:48.160 Joe Biden can do that in four years.

00:00:50.040 President Trump did it in less than a month.

00:00:51.900 Also, while President Trump was meeting with the King of Jordan, his national security

00:00:57.580 advisor, Mike Waltz, was securing the release of an American hostage in Russia.

00:01:03.700 The Trump administration announcing last night that the release of Mark Fogle, an American

00:01:08.500 schoolteacher, had been detained in Russia on drug charges since 2021.

00:01:13.720 National security advisor Mike Waltz said in a statement Tuesday that special envoy Steve

00:01:18.500 Wyckoff was leaving Russia airspace with Fogle after negotiating an exchange with Russia,

00:01:23.220 though he did not provide any details on whether the U.S. or an ally had released someone in

00:01:29.120 return.

00:01:30.720 Once again, a release that Joe Biden was unable to do in four years.

00:01:37.000 President Trump doing it in less than a month.

00:01:39.780 FEMA announcing today they are halting payments for migrant housing in New York after Elon Musk

00:01:47.040 has blasted them for releasing almost $60 million just this week for migrant housing.

00:01:55.740 Now, get this.

00:01:57.100 Mayor Eric Adams, the newly pardoned mayor of New York, came out over the last six months

00:02:05.980 or so, and it's vehemently against illegal immigrants now, all of a sudden after saying

00:02:10.800 they're more than welcome to come here, says that we've got to get rid of them.

00:02:14.620 We've got to clean up New York, allowing ICE to come in and take care of business, Tom

00:02:19.380 Holman and his folks.

00:02:21.680 But we're still seeing money flowing into New York.

00:02:24.540 So I think President Trump is going to have to keep a little bit of a better eye and keep

00:02:28.080 a close eye on Mayor Adams and the work he does in New York, especially after this pardon,

00:02:32.640 because there's no reason that $60 million should be flowing to New York, that Marxist

00:02:38.520 Dem run New York for absolutely anything.

00:02:41.340 President Trump has also fired FEMA's chief financial officer and three other employees

00:02:45.860 after this $59 million payment became public from Elon Musk.

00:02:52.640 So President Trump doing the Lord's work.

00:02:55.640 President Trump also holding Canada, still holding Canada to account, imposing a 25%

00:03:02.580 tariff on all foreign steel and aluminum imports, doubling down on Canada's statehood,

00:03:07.560 saying Canada should be our 51st state if they simply can't keep up.

00:03:13.140 You know, President Trump campaigned on it, tired of being ripped off, tired of it all.

00:03:18.600 And he's finally, you know, making these people pay where it hurts, making them pay the price

00:03:24.360 for ripping us off for the last four years.

00:03:27.600 So President Trump's going to get our money back one way or another, and he's doing so already.

00:03:34.060 Looking down at the southwest border, the southern border with Mexico,

00:03:38.360 migrant apprehensions along the southwest U.S. border with Mexico fell up nearly 96% last week

00:03:43.760 compared to the average number of apprehensions in February of 2024.

00:03:47.540 According to data from the Texas Department of Public Safety, apprehensions over the previous seven days

00:03:52.700 in the five Texas-based border sectors fell nearly 89% from last year.

00:04:00.060 Tom Holman and President Trump, I mean, absolute dream team with what they've been able to accomplish thus far.

00:04:08.720 And like I said, I mean, it's literally been three weeks since President Trump has taken office,

00:04:12.660 and it's been executive order after executive order, the power of Congress hasn't even began to kick in yet

00:04:19.200 in the bills they're going to go ahead and put forth.

00:04:22.460 And President Trump, I mean, like I said, is doing more than I think we've ever imagined

00:04:27.320 he was going to be able to do in just three short weeks.

00:04:31.600 So Godspeed to President Trump and his wonderful team of hardworking, great Americans who are doing the Lord's work.

00:04:38.920 Our guest today is a weekly favorite, our weekly guest here on The Great America Show.

00:04:43.200 He's the host of The Stone Zone each and every night on Rumble, the great Roger Stone.

00:04:48.560 Roger, as always, every week, it's great to have you back with us here on The Great America Show.

00:04:52.180 I want to start with everything that's going on inside this administration.

00:04:56.040 It's been under a month, but boy, a lot went on.

00:05:00.420 Elon Musk being Trump's number one advisor.

00:05:03.440 And man, is he pissing off a lot of people.

00:05:05.960 I want to start with first these Marxist dams, Roger, who are going crazy about Elon Musk

00:05:10.660 apparently allegedly getting tax documents and budget documents.

00:05:14.960 But literally, do they know every budget document that he's laid out so far is available to the public online.

00:05:20.940 There's nothing new there.

00:05:22.220 So the Democrats are so happy to get Trump's tax returns and they didn't mind seeing what was in them.

00:05:26.900 But they're all of a sudden very upset about finding out what USAID is giving out

00:05:30.880 or one of these other government organizations.

00:05:32.900 Your thoughts about that, Roger?

00:05:34.320 Well, first of all, I think Elon Musk and Dozier are doing an amazing job.

00:05:40.260 For decades, Republicans have talked about shrinking the size and wasting government.

00:05:45.120 He's proving not only massive fraud and waste, he's also being showing how our own tax dollars

00:05:51.420 are being used to politically weaponize the Democrats against us.

00:05:56.380 They should be using tax dollars for political purposes. 0.81

00:05:58.740 USAID set up by John Kennedy by executive order.

00:06:04.060 No congressional action was designed to fight communism in small developing countries by helping

00:06:09.600 them develop free market economies and also helping to feed them because it's much easier

00:06:14.880 to convince a poor person that democracy is better than communism.

00:06:18.620 A poor person who's who's well fed is what I'm saying.

00:06:22.220 So that morphed into a slush fund in which they are involved in both international and domestic

00:06:29.260 politics, propping up the fake narrative about the war in Ukraine, propping up the fake narrative

00:06:35.620 of the events of January 6th, propping up the fake narrative of the two impeachments against

00:06:41.580 Trump, propping up the fake narrative that the election on the 2020 was on the up and

00:06:46.800 up.

00:06:47.700 Before it's over, you're going to see them involved, I predict, in the two attempted assassinations

00:06:52.740 of Trump.

00:06:54.140 Why would they be paying Politico $80 million?

00:06:58.760 You know, Politico used to write really nasty things about me during my trial, and now I

00:07:03.580 realize why they were getting paid.

00:07:05.480 I don't believe that.

00:07:07.480 $140 million, I believe it is, to the New York Times.

00:07:10.060 This is the old mockingbird media operation that was exposed in the in the 70s.

00:07:16.880 It's still very much operating.

00:07:18.940 So I think Eli's doing a great job.

00:07:21.400 I saw the Democrats were so upset about President Trump's plans to shut down the Department of

00:07:28.620 Education.

00:07:29.200 A bunch of Democrat congressmen tried to storm the building, including Maxine Waters.

00:07:35.200 And I have bad news for Maxine.

00:07:37.280 She's not going to be allowed to wear that wig in prison. 1.00

00:07:40.060 You know, it's remarkable.

00:07:43.480 I mean, if two years ago, if six months ago, if Elon Musk came and supported Kamala Harrison

00:07:49.720 was doing the same exact job, the Democrats would be cheering this man and parading him

00:07:54.140 as a hero, an American hero.

00:07:55.720 But now he's found himself as an enemy.

00:07:59.060 But it's not anything new to him.

00:08:00.700 I mean, he's been under investigation on the SEC and FEC and all these places ever since

00:08:05.500 he started supporting Donald Trump.

00:08:07.460 But he's not beating into their hand.

00:08:09.320 As a matter of fact, he's using it to have some fun.

00:08:12.260 Elon Musk changed his name today on Twitter to Harry Bowles, B-O-L-Z.

00:08:17.800 And he tweeted and his top Twitter handle says circumcisions at a discount now 50 percent

00:08:24.800 off.

00:08:25.260 So I read that.

00:08:26.300 I'm like, what the hell's going on with Elon?

00:08:27.680 And then Elon further explains.

00:08:30.160 One of the things that USAID was doing was offering free circumcisions throughout the

00:08:33.640 world, but charging U.S.

00:08:34.900 taxpayers ridiculously high prices.

00:08:38.120 I decided to compete for business.

00:08:40.760 So, I mean, he he doesn't care what they're saying.

00:08:43.760 He doesn't care what they're saying on CNN or MSNBC.

00:08:46.580 And I think this is the first time, Roger, we have someone who's working for President

00:08:49.680 Trump who doesn't give a damn about his legacy, doesn't give a damn about how he's going to

00:08:54.940 make his next billion dollars, which is like every one of these former hucksters who worked

00:08:59.640 for President Trump.

00:09:00.380 Your thoughts?

00:09:01.400 Well, maybe I should invent another stone's rule for when I do volume two of my book.

00:09:06.700 Never pick a fight with a billionaire who has one of the largest communications platforms

00:09:12.120 on the in the universe.

00:09:14.340 This guy, first, he's funny.

00:09:16.380 He's sarcastic.

00:09:17.520 He's brutal.

00:09:18.780 He's committed.

00:09:20.400 Look, what choice did he have?

00:09:21.500 They have nine active investigations on him and his businesses by the Biden administration.

00:09:26.660 That's all weaponization.

00:09:28.100 That's all lawfare.

00:09:28.900 He didn't do anything wrong.

00:09:30.100 He has platoons of lawyers to make sure he does everything exactly right.

00:09:34.200 They hate him because he's an innovator.

00:09:35.680 They hate him because he's come out for Donald Trump.

00:09:38.520 They really hate him because he exposed the mass censorship, not just on his platform,

00:09:43.520 but on all of the other platforms, which is a violation of our First Amendment rights.

00:09:48.520 And you can see them trying to make, you know, calling him President Musk and co-president

00:09:53.560 Musk.

00:09:54.080 This is an effort to appeal to the ego of Donald Trump, who's not a man without ego.

00:09:58.560 But I've talked to the president.

00:10:00.040 He thinks Elon's doing a great job.

00:10:02.420 And I agree with that.

00:10:03.640 So wait.

00:10:04.980 Wait, do you see how much more we find out?

00:10:07.200 This is just the beginning.

00:10:08.540 You know, he's going to audit the Federal Reserve.

00:10:11.480 I bet that made Ron Paul happy.

00:10:14.180 Yeah.

00:10:14.400 And you know what?

00:10:14.980 Elon Musk is not.

00:10:15.880 He's different than some of the other people President Trump had around him in the first

00:10:19.040 first go around, such as someone like Steve Bannon, who's, you know, declared himself President

00:10:25.380 Trump's brain, the mastermind of everything Trump, whereas Elon Musk is the smartest man

00:10:30.220 in the world, the richest man in the world.

00:10:31.460 I don't have to keep going and saying all that stuff, who seems to be operating independently.

00:10:35.820 And if President Trump felt at any time he was stealing his sunshine, Trump would say,

00:10:40.860 OK, let's let me distance myself.

00:10:43.020 Trump has only brought him further in now, allowing him audit power inside of Doge, allowing

00:10:48.680 to hire some more people, 45 auditors, I believe.

00:10:52.020 But the issue they're running into now is something that we've seen, Roger, for the last 10 years.

00:10:56.740 Activist judges.

00:10:58.500 People who want to save the day, who think that, you know, they're the Lord and Savior. 1.00

00:11:02.480 But they're a bunch of idiots. 1.00

00:11:03.340 It's the Trump administration defying them, saying, we don't care. 1.00

00:11:06.520 Go to hell. 0.99

00:11:07.160 Are you surprised by this? 1.00

00:11:09.040 I'm extremely surprised by it, and I love it.

00:11:11.880 Well, I mean, first of all, we have co-equal branches of government.

00:11:15.520 No place does it say the judiciary branch has superiority over either the executive branch

00:11:20.120 or the legislative branch.

00:11:21.780 The judicial branch has acted like that is not the case.

00:11:25.300 Right.

00:11:25.420 If the judge orders, let's say, some specific action, it has to be taken, it has to be carried

00:11:33.880 out by executive branch agencies like the FBI and the Justice Department.

00:11:40.920 So I think you get a judge who makes a ruling that says the Treasury Secretary, the Secretary

00:11:46.900 of the Treasury of the United States, is not entitled to have the records of the U.S.

00:11:50.980 Treasury Department.

00:11:51.740 That judge is clearly insane, and he has no basis for that decision.

00:11:57.100 So I don't know how this works out. 0.66

00:11:59.600 I only know that the hard left is in retreat.

00:12:05.100 Their entire DEI woke globalist culture is on the run, and they know it.

00:12:14.920 And I don't know why they're surprised.

00:12:16.640 Here's why.

00:12:17.140 Everything Donald Trump is doing, every single thing he's doing, is what he said he would

00:12:22.760 do in the campaign.

00:12:23.700 This isn't a surprise.

00:12:25.160 What's a surprise to them was that he won because they thought they could cheat and steal

00:12:28.780 their way through another election, and they failed.

00:12:32.140 And therefore, all the data.

00:12:34.400 I mean, for example, we learned yesterday that the John F. Kennedy assassination document

00:12:40.980 archive that the president had already classified, there's a bunch of documents in the control

00:12:45.760 of various government agencies that aren't in the archive that will be very revealing,

00:12:50.740 I believe.

00:12:51.660 The bureaucrats hid them there. 0.54

00:12:53.080 So it's just a perfect example of how the deep state operates.

00:12:58.240 These are people who were elected by no one, but who have infiltrated every branch of government,

00:13:04.020 as well as the think tanks and the defense contractors and academia.

00:13:09.180 And they have groupthink.

00:13:11.040 And right now, their side is losing and losing badly.

00:13:14.500 No, it's not Trump who was a threat to democracy.

00:13:16.600 It was you who censored our free speech that were a threat to democracy.

00:13:21.880 No, he's not becoming a dictator.

00:13:23.840 He's carrying out his constitutional duties as tightly described in the U.S. Constitution.

00:13:30.020 They just can't get over it.

00:13:31.720 Yeah, and I think it was 2,400 pages of the JFK files that are, like you said, nobody really

00:13:36.280 knows what's in them.

00:13:37.060 What can they possibly be hiding?

00:13:38.500 But like you said, I think it'll shed a little bit further away.

00:13:40.880 I think we all know what happened.

00:13:42.340 You know better than anybody what happened who killed JFK and why they killed him.

00:13:46.600 The crazy thing to me is the whole activist judges, which, like I said, it's driving these

00:13:51.160 Marxist stems crazy.

00:13:52.760 What they don't realize is they're getting just a tiny taste, Roger, of their own medicine.

00:13:57.660 I mean, I saw it firsthand.

00:14:00.200 The judge in my case in Washington, D.C., where I was subjected to a Soviet-style show trial

00:14:04.960 on cooked-up process crimes, because in Robert Mueller's own final report, which there had

00:14:13.320 to be a lawsuit to get them to release this, he admits that he had found no evidence of

00:14:17.400 Russian collusion, WikiLeaks collaboration, or any other crime on my part.

00:14:23.480 But the judge in that case withheld exculpatory evidence from my lawyers.

00:14:28.120 When we asked for the Mueller's final unredacted report, she denied it to us, saying she would

00:14:32.860 read the entire report and give us the sections that were relevant.

00:14:36.020 She failed to give us the section in which Mueller admitted he had no evidence against

00:14:39.780 me.

00:14:40.620 So these D.C. judges, you know, look, there's an answer to this right off the bat.

00:14:46.600 Speaker Johnson should have the the Oversight Committee have field hearings around the country

00:14:51.980 and they should subpoena those who got preemptive pardons.

00:14:55.760 They cannot refuse to testify.

00:14:57.720 We saw what happened to to Bannon and Navarro when they did that.

00:15:01.100 And they cannot plead the Fifth Amendment because they're pardoned.

00:15:05.140 That's the law.

00:15:05.900 And if they perjure themselves, well, then they can stand trial, you know, where the field

00:15:11.160 hearing is held, like in Mississippi, for example, as opposed to D.C., where you'll never

00:15:16.620 get an honest trial, an honest judge, an unbiased judge or a fair jury.

00:15:22.000 That is the biggest barrier to prosecuting people who did egregious things in the last four or

00:15:29.180 eight years.

00:15:30.040 But I don't think Trump is about retaliation or revenge.

00:15:33.960 I think he is he is about having one standard of justice, about rebalancing the scales of

00:15:42.240 justice.

00:15:42.740 You have a nonpolitical, unbiased Justice Department making judgments based on the words

00:15:49.740 in the law, not their political targeting.

00:15:52.500 Right.

00:15:53.300 A few things there.

00:15:54.820 And you mentioned perfectly so about the crimes possibly committed.

00:15:58.040 I spoke with Garrett Ziegler.

00:15:59.220 He's the founder of Marco Polo, the man who wrote the right, the few hundred page Hunter

00:16:04.160 Biden laptop.

00:16:04.820 And I asked him, I said, Garrett, did you write this thing on your own?

00:16:07.180 He goes every single page of it.

00:16:08.740 And we start talking about things and he can tell me what page was on just off the top

00:16:11.700 of the song.

00:16:12.240 And he had said to me exactly what you said.

00:16:15.020 There are some crimes that Hunter Biden had committed in Arkansas where the statute of

00:16:18.320 limitations still haven't expired, where he can be charged down there.

00:16:22.120 Like I was saying before, the Democrats now are getting a taste of their own medicine, but it's

00:16:25.720 not because there's no retribution here.

00:16:28.020 President Trump hasn't started going after anybody.

00:16:29.920 He hasn't mentioned Hunter Biden's name once.

00:16:32.320 He hasn't mentioned Joe Biden's name once.

00:16:34.000 He hasn't mentioned Hillary Clinton's name once.

00:16:36.140 The whole retribution thing is down the drain.

00:16:38.060 What he's doing is truth, justice in the American way.

00:16:41.080 He had told us he's getting rid of the Department of Education.

00:16:43.840 He had said he was going to look to cut funding anywhere he possibly can.

00:16:47.220 Why are they so against cutting funding?

00:16:49.280 I mean, can they make it any more obvious, Roger, that they're getting some sort of kickbacks

00:16:53.860 or some sort of monetary benefit from having U.S.

00:16:58.860 aid spending all this money across the world?

00:17:02.200 No.

00:17:02.780 So what they do is whether it's whether it's Norm Eisen or Weissman, Andrew Weissman, the

00:17:14.500 most corrupt prosecutor in American history, or whether it's Jamie Raskin, the communist

00:17:19.440 congressman from from Maryland, screaming about lawsuits.

00:17:23.620 Go ahead and file all the lawsuits you want.

00:17:25.880 The Justice Department will be there to make a motion that would be dismissed and it will

00:17:29.300 be baseless.

00:17:30.580 You're challenging the executive authority the president has laid out in the Constitution.

00:17:35.160 It's really pretty simple.

00:17:37.700 But they can't stand the fact that they don't have the power anymore.

00:17:40.900 They abused the power when they had it.

00:17:42.640 Donald Trump is using the power constitutionally for what it was meant for.

00:17:46.400 And as I've said on this show, we're going to we're entering a golden age.

00:17:51.960 This is the age of Trump, an age of unprecedented peace, prosperity, security, justice and law

00:17:58.540 and order.

00:17:59.300 And the president has a very solid, solid plan moving forward.

00:18:03.500 Now Elon's going to audit the Federal Reserve.

00:18:07.280 This I thought this was a good idea for 30 years.

00:18:09.760 So it's exciting.

00:18:11.280 It's a great time to be alive in America.

00:18:13.120 By the way, I don't I don't agree with every single thing the president does.

00:18:18.080 Yesterday, he announced that he was his DOJ was dropping the charges against Eric Adams.

00:18:25.580 We're going to Roger.

00:18:26.320 We're going to take that.

00:18:27.040 I want to use all segment on this, actually.

00:18:28.700 Let's take a quick break here.

00:18:29.800 We come back.

00:18:30.680 I want to talk about that.

00:18:31.560 President Trump pardoning Eric Adams and another Democrat, Rod Blagojevich, who some could

00:18:37.320 even argue was the inception of the deep state targeting.

00:18:41.640 We're coming right back with Roger Stone.

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00:19:50.520 the great Roger Stone.

00:19:52.000 Roger, just before we went to break there, we were talking about the pardons of Eric Adams.

00:19:55.860 Let's begin with him first before we move to a man who I believe is a great man and not Eric Adams.

00:20:00.700 This is something you and I agree on.

00:20:02.400 We both think Eric Adams and know Eric Adams is a criminal.

00:20:05.740 What persuaded President Trump otherwise?

00:20:08.120 It's really very simple.

00:20:10.940 There's a false narrative out there promulgated by Eric Adams that his indictment was trivial,

00:20:18.500 but he's really being persecuted because he opposed Joe Biden's open borders policy.

00:20:23.540 But that is a lie.

00:20:25.200 He was a full-throated advocate for New York being a sanctuary city.

00:20:28.620 He said illegals would always be welcome. 1.00

00:20:33.180 As late as 2019, I believe it was, he was calling Trump an idiot and a moron. 1.00

00:20:40.840 He is now suddenly, out of the blue, he's deeply concerned with the way the January 6th victims were treated. 1.00

00:20:50.740 Look, this is really very simple.

00:20:53.120 He took $100,000 from Turkey, illegal money.

00:20:57.080 He allowed the Turks to inhabit a building in Manhattan that didn't have an occupancy permit, 0.89

00:21:03.540 and they didn't get one because it would cost millions of dollars of upgrades to the building to get one.

00:21:08.360 He took that money.

00:21:09.380 He gave it to straw donors, Americans, who then submitted it to New York City's campaign finance matching fund program at an 8-to-1 level.

00:21:19.840 So he took $100,000, and he turned it into a million.

00:21:24.420 There are three additional unsealed indictments that were filed this past Thursday against him.

00:21:29.520 We don't even know what's in them.

00:21:30.740 They're sealed for reasons of national security, which tells me to more foreign money.

00:21:34.860 So the idea, I saw Kat Timf on Fox saying, oh, you know, they bumped his ticket up from coach to first class on Turkish Airlines,

00:21:46.540 and he got an extra Bloody Mary.

00:21:48.700 No, the charges against him are quite serious.

00:21:51.680 And the narrative that he was politically targeted is nonsensical.

00:21:58.780 But here's the real problem.

00:22:00.600 Letitia James did the same thing.

00:22:02.620 She took illegal money, gave it to straw donors, and put it through the city of New York's 8-to-1 campaign finance matching fund. 1.00

00:22:12.260 So how do you not hold Eric Adams accountable?

00:22:16.560 Someday, Letitia James, who has a number of scandals swirling around her, how will you hold her accountable?

00:22:24.200 I disagree with this part, and I respect the president, but I just don't see what warranted it.

00:22:29.640 Look, a lot of Republicans, I think, were paid to advocate this false narrative that Eric was opposed to the open border policies,

00:22:38.780 and that's why they're punishing him.

00:22:40.620 That is simply not true.

00:22:42.780 Yeah.

00:22:43.200 And you know what?

00:22:44.060 The slap in the face is we've just seen two former FDN, high-ranking FDNY officials, fire department officials,

00:22:52.280 plead guilty to some sort of bribery schemes of their own.

00:22:55.620 Those guys will be going to jail.

00:22:57.120 Now, I'm not justifying what they did.

00:22:59.460 Obviously, they committed a crime and they'll go to jail, but just because they don't have the name Eric Adams,

00:23:04.480 it means that they are treated differently when Eric Adams should have been given the book and tried just like everyone else should.

00:23:12.040 And President Trump, in my opinion, like I always say, I agree with him on 99% of the things.

00:23:16.920 This is, you know, 1% of the time I don't agree with him.

00:23:19.760 He should know better, President Trump, because he went through it.

00:23:23.100 A man who was actually innocent, a man we know is actually innocent, a man who's been persecuted for 10 years, Roger,

00:23:28.240 and for him to just make it disappear, it just doesn't sit right with me, especially with Eric Adams.

00:23:33.220 It's truly mind-boggling how he's going to get off.

00:23:36.980 You had mentioned as early back as 2019.

00:23:40.380 How about what we're finding out this week about the FEMA spending $59 million in New York on luxury hotels for illegals,

00:23:48.220 skating the payment by trying to get it by Elon Musk. 0.98

00:23:51.140 Little did they know the man's a frigging hawk. 0.98

00:23:54.700 This is last week. 0.98

00:23:56.160 $59 million for FEMA for illegals.

00:23:58.900 Eric Adams swears he wants illegals out.

00:24:01.780 Who's telling the truth here?

00:24:03.060 Well, Eric Adams located these migrant shelters in stable, working-class neighborhoods in Staten Island.

00:24:08.900 He put one next to a Catholic girls' school for a table.

00:24:12.020 So, look, he's a fast-talking fraud.

00:24:14.980 I don't think that he merited this.

00:24:17.260 The other good news, though, of course, is that the president pardoned former Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich.

00:24:24.840 Now, it's important to understand the Blagojevich case.

00:24:27.800 He was prosecuted essentially because he refused the orders of Barack Obama to appoint Valerie Jarrett to the U.S. Senate seat that Obama was vacating to become president.

00:24:39.440 Right.

00:24:39.820 And they claimed that they had an audio tape from a wiretap that would prove this.

00:24:47.100 But they never played the tape.

00:24:49.540 Rod's defense was quite simple.

00:24:51.040 I didn't do that.

00:24:52.040 I did nothing criminal.

00:24:53.600 Play the tape.

00:24:54.980 But they would never play the tape.

00:24:56.180 And then he appealed that.

00:24:58.860 And the appeal courts ruled that the prosecutors didn't have to play the tape.

00:25:03.800 He never received a penny.

00:25:05.740 They had to get him out of the way.

00:25:07.160 Now that I've gotten to know him, I understand why.

00:25:09.500 He's one of the most talented political communicators and one of the best politicians I've ever seen.

00:25:15.380 You go to Chicago restaurant with him, you see the people love him.

00:25:18.060 The establishment so hates this man, they passed a state law that says Rod Blagojevich cannot run for state or local office.

00:25:29.420 Now, they can't borrow him from federal office.

00:25:31.620 If they could, they probably would.

00:25:33.360 They're afraid he's going to run for mayor where he would clean up the city of Chicago.

00:25:37.040 And if he ran, if he were able to run, he probably would.

00:25:41.060 I don't know that he wants to run again.

00:25:43.240 But originally, the president commuted his sentence.

00:25:46.280 He served eight hard years of a 15-year sentence where he didn't do anything wrong other than engage in the art of politics.

00:25:54.060 And he emerged from prison.

00:25:56.960 He's not embittered.

00:25:57.940 He's not angry.

00:25:58.940 He's not broken.

00:26:00.260 I think it deepened his faith in Christ.

00:26:03.040 But he also knows that only because of Donald Trump standing up to this weaponization, he's the first victim.

00:26:09.420 He's patient zero in this.

00:26:12.400 He's the first guy they did it to, followed by Paul Manafort, followed by General Flynn, followed by myself, followed by Donald Trump.

00:26:21.400 So I was really glad to see this.

00:26:25.320 He's a great man.

00:26:26.800 He's technically still a registered Democrat, but he calls himself a Trump Democrat.

00:26:31.340 And he loves Donald Trump, and he should.

00:26:33.940 Yeah.

00:26:34.260 Well, I mean, Elon Musk, I think, is probably still a registered Democrat as well.

00:26:37.680 And we see what he's doing.

00:26:39.180 You know, I met Rod maybe six or seven months ago in New York City, and I told him who I was.

00:26:45.440 And, you know, he spoke to me for about 10 minutes, and he explained to me how Lou Dobbs was Donald Trump before Donald Trump was Donald Trump and how he respected him so greatly.

00:26:55.120 And, you know, it brought tears to my eyes.

00:26:56.940 I was with Lou's wife, Debbie, and her as well, and he had such kind words to say.

00:27:01.180 And, you know, he doesn't have to do that and waste his time sitting there talking to us.

00:27:04.540 Very, very nice guy, a true gentleman.

00:27:07.280 Do the political persecutions end now, Roger?

00:27:12.980 It doesn't look like Donald Trump's going after anybody who came after him, per se, Joe Biden and all those folks.

00:27:20.240 And you know what?

00:27:21.920 There's bigger fish to fry.

00:27:23.280 I wish he would go after them.

00:27:24.540 I understand why he's not.

00:27:26.360 He's got an agenda, and he's holding to that agenda, and I respect him for that.

00:27:30.000 I'm a little bit of the opinion where he should be going after these people.

00:27:34.660 Whatever.

00:27:35.520 Bygones are bygones, I guess, in his eyes.

00:27:37.280 Do the political persecutions stop now?

00:27:40.500 Well, that is actually in some ways up to Pam Bondi because there are still cases pending that were started by the Biden administration. 0.98

00:27:47.380 Take the example of Roger Baer, who was a major donor to conservative and liberty and other right-of-center political causes,

00:27:57.840 was one of the inventors of the cryptocurrency industry.

00:28:02.720 They call him Bitcoin Jesus.

00:28:04.380 He actually reluctantly renounced his citizenship because he knew they were going to keep trying to throw him in jail if he didn't.

00:28:11.600 And when you do that, you pay an expatriation tax.

00:28:15.540 That tax needs to be reformed.

00:28:18.100 It's not a wealth tax.

00:28:20.560 It's a complicated formula that I think is unconstitutional.

00:28:23.380 But they've charged him with income tax evasion and they seek to extradite him to the United States.

00:28:30.600 He had the best tax attorneys in the country, told them how to evaluate his cryptocurrency handlings and pay the appropriate taxes.

00:28:43.060 The FBI raided his tax attorney's office and took all of his tax records.

00:28:47.420 That's a violation of the Sixth Amendment in the United States.

00:28:51.180 How is that possible?

00:28:52.280 So he is a victim.

00:28:53.600 Tucker Carlson has talked out about this.

00:28:56.360 So Charlie Kirk has as well.

00:28:58.320 Alex Jones had him on a terrific interview.

00:29:00.940 I just watched a great documentary about him.

00:29:04.400 Like Ross Albrecht, who had to be pardoned, this hasn't gone to trial yet.

00:29:09.540 They should dismiss these charges.

00:29:11.640 I hope that the Justice Department under Pam Bondi will look at this case and see if you see it for what it is, a political hit job.

00:29:20.860 You had mentioned that and it brings two names to mind.

00:29:24.920 And I know you're just as fascinated in them as I am.

00:29:28.540 Edward Snowden and Julian Assange.

00:29:31.200 What holds President Trump back from bringing these guys to America, giving them full pardons or whatever process needs to be played out so they're never charged in America?

00:29:40.240 And getting to the truth about how Assange got the documents he got, who gave them to him?

00:29:46.680 Was it the DNC?

00:29:47.620 Because I think it was the DNC.

00:29:49.300 Who killed Seth Rich?

00:29:51.560 The list goes on about the things that Assange knew.

00:29:54.420 What stops President Trump from bringing him in?

00:29:56.500 And what stops President Trump from bringing in Edward Snowden, a man who blew the whistle that Americans were being spied on?

00:30:03.420 I think the answer is quite simple, and that is at this point he is held back by the rhino wing of the party who still believes the neocon storyline that Edward Snowden, as we saw in Senate here, is a traitor and a criminal and should be prosecuted.

00:30:19.960 They say that because he exposed their corruption.

00:30:23.680 The criminal is General James Clapper.

00:30:25.920 He's the one who testified under oath that there was no metadata collection program operating on Americans.

00:30:32.300 Where is he now?

00:30:33.740 Teaching ethics at Vermont College, and he's got a talking head gig at CNN, which nobody's watching.

00:30:40.060 There's the guy who should be in jail right there.

00:30:42.280 He lied about something material under oath.

00:30:45.680 But as you saw in the hearings, senators demanding that Tulsi Gabbard say that Snowden is a criminal, he should never be pardoned, and he should be further prosecuted.

00:30:58.100 And she refused to say that because she doesn't believe it.

00:31:00.720 So you still have a bunch of people in our party.

00:31:04.340 These are the same people who said, let Robert Mueller do his job.

00:31:08.160 He's just trying to do a, you know, he's a solid guy.

00:31:10.660 No, he was a shell of a man, and that whole thing was a partisan witch hunt.

00:31:16.480 But remember, we had Republicans who say, you must let Mueller finish his work.

00:31:20.480 I mean, that's your biggest problem, is that people buy the old mainstream, lamestream, legacy media narratives about these things.

00:31:32.600 Julian Assange is a journalist.

00:31:35.040 What are his sources?

00:31:36.360 The New York Times doesn't tell you who their sources are.

00:31:38.480 The Washington Times.

00:31:39.540 Catherine Ehrich.

00:31:40.360 The Wall Street Journal doesn't tell you who their sources are.

00:31:43.800 Has anything he's ever published turned out to be inauthentic, not real, a forgery?

00:31:49.000 No.

00:31:49.740 No, not a thing.

00:31:51.000 So what is his real crime?

00:31:53.140 His crime is not receiving anything for the Russians. 0.75

00:31:55.500 There's no evidence of that.

00:31:56.700 You can say it as many times as you want.

00:31:58.800 There was no Russian hack of the DNC.

00:32:01.560 One of the prosecutors said in a surreply that the government had additional evidence of that, but they couldn't supply it to the court because it was classified as a matter of national security.

00:32:15.000 That means they don't have it because it does not exist.

00:32:18.040 All the forensic evidence supplied by Bill Binney, the top counterterrorism IT guy in the CIA, and all the actual forensic evidence shows that whatever was stolen from the DNC was loaded to a portable drive and taken out the back door by someone.

00:32:33.640 Was it Seth Rich?

00:32:34.600 We don't know.

00:32:35.380 But, again, that false narrative that the DNC was hacked continues to persist today, and half of the people in America still believe it because they've heard it and they've never heard the truth.

00:32:48.460 Yeah, and nobody cares to know the truth.

00:32:50.540 You mentioned sources.

00:32:51.980 Look what they did to Katherine Harris at CBS. 0.75

00:32:54.200 They tried to ruin her life for not disclosing sources.

00:32:57.220 Journalists do their job based on a large part of anonymity, Roger.

00:33:01.560 That's just what it is.

00:33:02.820 It's the nature of the business.

00:33:05.420 People ought to understand that.

00:33:07.040 I want to take a quick break here, Roger, one more break, and come back.

00:33:10.420 And when we come back, I want to take up Tulsi Gabbard.

00:33:12.340 I want to take up RFK Jr., and I want to take up Cash Patel.

00:33:15.860 It's the three holdovers that we're waiting to be confirmed.

00:33:19.080 They tell us any day.

00:33:20.900 We're coming right back with the great Roger Stone folks.

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00:34:24.540 Folks, we're back with the great Roger Stone, our weekly guest here on The Great America Show.

00:34:31.000 Roger, a few people held back for a little procedural time, is what the Republican rhinos say and the Democrats say.

00:34:39.260 Cash Patel, RFK, Tulsi Gabbard.

00:34:41.060 We're expecting Tulsi and RFK any day, any hour now.

00:34:45.220 Cash, a little bit longer.

00:34:47.080 What's the holdup with these folks?

00:34:48.620 Don't the Democrats care about national security?

00:34:52.580 Well, first of all, the good news is that Pam Bondi has been confirmed as attorney general.

00:34:57.220 She's going to be a great attorney general. 1.00

00:34:59.140 And I think that's where the weaponization stops.

00:35:02.260 For example, the announcement two days ago, three days ago, that the case against James O'Keefe was being dropped.

00:35:08.800 The idea of the FBI raiding the home of a journalist looking for Ashley Biden's diary, which had been given to him by a source, but he never published or spoke about, is outrageous and unconstitutional.

00:35:22.760 So Pam Bondi ordered that case to be dropped. 1.00

00:35:26.280 That's where that's how the weaponization ends.

00:35:28.760 The three people you talk about, probably with the addition of the Treasury Secretary, Scott Besson, who's a very good man, libertarian, a free thinker, an outside-the-box thinker, very solid, totally loyal to the president.

00:35:47.520 And, of course, Pete Hegseth, who was confirmed as our defense secretary.

00:35:52.000 The three you name, I think, are the stars of this cabinet, along with those two.

00:35:56.080 And Big Pharma is petrified that RFK is going to just ask intelligent questions about the safety of the food and the drugs that's being forced on our families, and they don't want us to see the data.

00:36:08.900 Pfizer wanted to lock up the data for 75 years, as I recall, about the effects of certain vaccinations.

00:36:16.780 So Tulsi Gabbard petrifies them because she's obviously, A, she's a future superstar. 1.00

00:36:23.680 She's very charismatic.

00:36:24.500 She's very knowledgeable.

00:36:25.600 She's very tough.

00:36:27.240 And she understands the police state.

00:36:30.560 She understands the surveillance state.

00:36:34.660 And this puts her, if she's confirmed, at the nexus of all of our intelligence agencies and what they knew and what they know today.

00:36:44.280 And that makes them very disturbed because that's a state, that's a position that must be controlled by the deep state if their various cover-ups are going to continue.

00:36:53.180 So they smear her.

00:36:55.320 They say, well, she met and met, went and met with Assad.

00:36:58.960 The first person to meet with Assad, not Assad, Assad. 0.55

00:37:03.300 The first person to do that was Senator Bob Torricelli, Democrat of New Jersey.

00:37:07.280 He went and missed Nancy Pelosi.

00:37:08.680 She went and met with Assad.

00:37:10.060 So what?

00:37:11.100 Maybe Tulsi Gabbard was concerned about the potential slaughter of 100,000 Christians, the crucifixion of children five years old, the last time the people who control Syria today controlled it last time. 0.71

00:37:24.120 Maybe she was concerned about that.

00:37:25.660 That doesn't make her pro-Assad.

00:37:29.720 And the fact that she questions shipping off billions more for the war in Ukraine.

00:37:35.260 But to question the patriotism of someone who fought for their country in combat in Iraq, in Kuwait, who was a lieutenant colonel in the U.S. Army Reserve, to question her patriotism, that is outrageous.

00:37:47.300 Since when is it bad to meet with world leaders?

00:37:50.700 I mean, if Trump meets with Kim Jong-un, whatever, we'll turn to Vladimir Putin because he makes a little bit more sense, a little bit more relevant right now.

00:37:59.280 But if President Trump talks or meets with Vladimir Putin, it's like the end of the world.

00:38:04.400 Why are you talking to this man?

00:38:05.820 What's wrong with you? 0.99

00:38:06.900 Are you a puppet? 0.99

00:38:09.420 It's illogical.

00:38:10.500 Well, it seems to me, look, Trump told me that when he first became president in 2017, he had a private meeting with Bill Clinton.

00:38:17.160 And, of course, he had that White House meeting with Barack Obama. 0.87

00:38:19.620 And they both said to him, your biggest single problem is this madman, this dictator in North Korea. 0.83

00:38:26.440 And Trump said, well, really, what's he saying? 0.97

00:38:28.560 And they said, saying?

00:38:30.020 Well, what do you mean?

00:38:30.900 He said, well, when you talk to him, what does he say?

00:38:33.060 Well, we're not talking to him.

00:38:34.540 And Trump said, well, wouldn't you wouldn't be smart to have a dialogue with him, kind of figure out where he's coming from, maybe what he's up to?

00:38:40.060 Try to change his mind, wouldn't he?

00:38:42.480 No, no, yeah, that would be very dangerous.

00:38:44.460 Well, I mean, you've seen this, where he will talk to enemies because he wants to size them up.

00:38:49.840 And he wants to try to tamp down the tensions between our countries.

00:38:54.200 North Korea put their nuclear weapons development program on hold after he went to that country.

00:39:00.140 They turned it back on when Joe Biden, who they saw correctly as a patsy, became president.

00:39:06.020 So it's very hard to understand the fact that we have no negotiations going on under Biden to end the war between Ukraine and Russia.

00:39:16.200 The Ukrainians are ready to negotiate, but the U.S. State Department under Blinky won't let him do it.

00:39:23.980 Yeah. You know, the other thing is, as you mentioned, the media, I think Donald Trump is getting a little bit more of a better affair shake this time around, because I think he's defeated literally, Roger, everybody.

00:39:35.840 I mean, he's defeated CNN, MSNBC.

00:39:38.280 You look at the hosts who have since resigned or been fired.

00:39:41.220 Don Lamont.

00:39:41.860 I mean, Chris Wallace, just a slew of people who have just been defeated by President Trump.

00:39:48.320 But it's not just the media.

00:39:49.720 It's the American people.

00:39:51.620 Trump's approval rating in the first three weeks, according to Nate Silver's 538.

00:39:56.460 In 2017, his first three weeks, 44.3 percent approval.

00:40:01.660 Disapproved, 49.4 percent.

00:40:04.120 Fast forward now to 2025, Roger, the first three weeks, his approval rating is 49.4 percent.

00:40:09.720 So almost 50 percent of the country approves with a 5.1 positive spread from the same point.

00:40:16.880 And he's doing way more.

00:40:18.820 We'll call it radical things in the eyes of the Marxist Dems.

00:40:22.600 Massive deportations like he promised he was going to do.

00:40:25.640 Shutting down government organizations like he told us he was going to do.

00:40:30.080 Not radical in my eyes, but radical in the eyes of the Democrats.

00:40:33.820 He's done, I think, far more in his first three weeks than maybe he did in his first year in 2016.

00:40:39.800 2017.

00:40:40.660 Your thoughts?

00:40:41.960 Look, in a strange way, I think he's going to be a much greater president than he was in his first term

00:40:46.660 for the fact that they denied him re-election in 2020 when he should have rightfully been seated as president.

00:40:53.440 I think it's hard to look back at the pain and the suffering of the last four years,

00:40:59.400 but it has made him much wiser as to how the deep state operates, between the nexus, between that.

00:41:04.980 It's now proven.

00:41:05.940 The fake news media is paid with your tax dollars to tell lies.

00:41:09.720 It's proven.

00:41:11.360 Elon Musk just proved it.

00:41:12.740 The New York Times, Politico.

00:41:14.020 Why are they getting millions of dollars from taxpayers?

00:41:16.380 Perhaps it's to attack Donald Trump or who knows?

00:41:18.980 Roger Stone.

00:41:19.560 So it is extraordinary that they're going so completely insane as he does exactly what

00:41:32.120 he said he was going to do.

00:41:33.780 Yeah, it doesn't make much sense to me.

00:41:35.660 Roger, as we wrap up here, a big fight coming up, and it's one that the Republicans haven't

00:41:40.920 won in a very long time.

00:41:42.400 It's a budget.

00:41:43.000 The Republicans are going to now be in charge of putting together a budget, 12 appropriations

00:41:47.180 bills, just like Mike Johnson promised us.

00:41:50.740 The Democrats are apparently saying they're not going to fight and go to a showdown on

00:41:54.860 it.

00:41:55.520 What's your thoughts?

00:41:56.260 Does President Trump get through finally the first budget we've seen in like 20-something

00:42:01.060 years?

00:42:01.900 Well, I'm hopeful that that happens.

00:42:04.400 You know the difference between a caucus and a cactus?

00:42:08.120 On a cactus, all the pricks are on the outside.

00:42:10.540 Right.

00:42:10.760 So we won't really know until we see what the Congress does.

00:42:15.580 Mike Johnson, the Speaker, has a very difficult job.

00:42:18.440 Half the guys in his caucus, half the people in his caucus don't want to do anything.

00:42:22.000 They just don't want to do anything other than get reelected.

00:42:24.180 Oh, the Oversight Committee has proof that the Bidens, Joe and Hunter and Jimmy and all

00:42:31.440 the rest of them, they were taking massive bribes from Russia, from China, from Ukraine,

00:42:37.480 from Romania.

00:42:39.080 They don't prosecute him.

00:42:40.680 Just don't rock the boat.

00:42:42.080 And then the other half are radicals.

00:42:44.580 Good people like Corey Mills, for example, and Anna Polina Luna.

00:42:49.040 Matt Gaetz was in this group when he was there.

00:42:51.400 Tim Burshett from from Tennessee.

00:42:53.600 These are radicals who want to want to cover up, want to uncover the excesses and the illegalities

00:43:02.100 by the deep state, but also want to push the America first agenda.

00:43:06.200 So and Johnson's got to get a majority with that slim margin and two seats in Florida being

00:43:13.380 vacant and the Rhinos maneuvering feverishly to put an Adam Kinzinger or Liz Cheney type Republican

00:43:22.480 in at least Stefanik's seat in New York 21.

00:43:27.480 You know, he's got a very difficult job.

00:43:29.880 But in the end of the day, I support the speaker.

00:43:32.560 I don't agree with everything he does every time.

00:43:34.140 But I strongly support him because he's loyal to Donald Trump.

00:43:37.000 And together, I think we're going to get a budget.

00:43:39.300 All that matters is loyalty at this point.

00:43:40.880 I don't care about anything else.

00:43:42.440 So hopefully Mike Johnson gets it together and and the Republicans prove these voters

00:43:47.080 right and give them what they voted for.

00:43:48.980 Roger Stone, thanks so much for joining us today.

00:43:50.620 We'll see you next week, brother.

00:43:51.800 Thank you, John.

00:43:52.580 Great to be with you.

00:43:54.360 Thanks, everybody, for being with us today.

00:43:55.940 Please be sure to join us back here tomorrow for The Great America Show, where our quest for

00:43:59.400 truth, justice and the American way continues.

00:44:02.360 See you back here tomorrow.

00:44:03.600 Same time, same place.

00:44:05.440 Until then, may God bless you.

00:44:06.780 May God bless America and may God bless the great Lou Dobbs.

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The Great America Show - February 16, 2025

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