The Great America Show - July 27, 2025


The Great America Sunday Show： July 27, 2025


Episode Stats

Length

34 minutes

Words per Minute

176.90224

Word Count

6,027

Sentence Count

433

Misogynist Sentences

10

Hate Speech Sentences

7


Summary

Hunter Biden is back in the news, and no, he doesn t have a new laptop. He doesn't have an iPad. He s decided to do some podcasting interviews. He sat down for a two hour interview with a YouTube star, and in that interview, he didn t mention his father's advanced prostate cancer. So we saved you some time and went through this interview and found some of the greatest clips and highlights.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody. Welcome to the Great America Show. It's great to have you with us. Thanks
00:00:06.040 so much for spending part of your night, day, whatever time of the day you're joining us
00:00:09.480 or night. It's always a pleasure to have you guys with us. Hunter Biden is back in the
00:00:14.180 news and no, he doesn't have a new laptop. He doesn't have a new iPad. He doesn't have
00:00:17.780 a new iPhone, but he's decided to do some podcasting interviews. He sat down for a two
00:00:23.980 hour interview with the YouTube star just the other day. He had a lot to say, but in
00:00:30.220 that two hour interview, didn't mention his father's advanced prostate cancer that's
00:00:35.020 metastasized. Really doesn't talk about his father much. So we saved you some time and
00:00:41.440 went through this interview and found some of the greatest clips and highlights, I guess
00:00:45.880 you can say. For those of you who've never done crack before, smoked crack, thought about smoking
00:00:51.820 crack. Let not your heart be troubled. We've got the recipe for you. Take a listen.
00:00:59.380 No. Do you know what I mean?
00:01:00.400 Well, because they think cocaine, Scarface, very cool. Crack cocaine, they think the wire.
00:01:04.620 Oh, in that sense. Oh, absolutely.
00:01:06.500 You know what I mean? Like they don't know how similar the chemical compounds are.
00:01:09.540 The only difference between crack cocaine and cocaine is sodium biocarbonate and water and
00:01:14.820 heat, literally.
00:01:15.780 That's it?
00:01:16.020 That's it.
00:01:16.820 And those things are pretty much free if you go to like a science store.
00:01:20.080 This is free. You can go to a, your neighborhood convenience store and just get, anyway, I don't
00:01:28.380 want to tell people how to make, how to make crack cocaine, but it literally is a managed
00:01:32.380 jar of cocaine and baking soda.
00:01:34.100 How different is the experience?
00:01:35.420 It's vastly, vastly different. And like for real, I, I, I feel really reluctant to kind of
00:01:42.820 have some euphoric discussion. I know you're not asking me to do that, but have some euphoric
00:01:46.620 discussion about crack cocaine.
00:01:48.780 I think this might be kind of the opposite here.
00:01:50.620 Okay. No, I, it's the exact opposite. I'm saying I don't want to have the experience
00:01:55.660 of some euphoric recall. That's how powerful crack cocaine is. Does crack cocaine make you
00:02:01.800 act any differently? No. Is it safer than alcohol? Probably. People think of crack as being
00:02:08.680 dirty. It's the exact opposite. When you make crack, what you're doing is you're burning
00:02:13.200 off all the impurities so that it combines with the sodium biocarbonate, which makes it smokeable.
00:02:18.260 That's all, you know, all of these actors and, you know, people in the past that talked
00:02:23.680 about, they had a problem with cocaine and freebasing. They were smoking crack.
00:02:29.080 So straw on the stove is the same thing.
00:02:31.420 Not exactly, but close to it. But it's a little bit different. But anyway.
00:02:36.560 You heard that right. So next time you want to go out with your husband, your wife, your
00:02:41.720 boyfriend and girlfriend, have a glass of wine, go to your local convenience store and pick
00:02:45.440 up a crack pipe and some steel wool and smoke some crack. That's safer than having an alcoholic
00:02:51.200 beverage, according to Hunter Biden. Now, I'm not exactly sure how safe it is. Those of you
00:02:56.040 who saw the Hunter Biden laptop, we all know what his teeth look like without those dentures
00:03:00.340 in his mouth. But according to Hunter, that's safer than having a drink. So take it for what
00:03:07.140 it's worth. Joe Biden did say once that Hunter Biden is the smartest man he knows. So it's
00:03:12.900 starting to make a lot more sense. Speaking of not so smart people, Stephen Colbert, whose
00:03:17.140 show, by the way, was losing $50 million a year because of terrible ratings because nobody's
00:03:23.240 watching him had some wise choice words for President Trump. Now, you may not like Donald
00:03:29.000 Trump, but we all have respect for the office, whether it was Joe Biden or Barack Obama or
00:03:34.260 George Bush or Bill Clinton. We all respected the office of the presidency, except, of course,
00:03:39.160 if you're Stephen Colbert and you're unemployed in the coming months. Take a listen.
00:03:42.800 On Friday, Donald Trump posted, I absolutely love that Colbert got fired. His talent was even
00:03:49.760 less than his ratings. How dare you, sir? Would an untalented man be able to compose the
00:04:02.240 following satirical witticism? Go f*** yourself.
00:04:05.720 For good measure, Stephen Colbert, this is for you.
00:04:25.740 You're fired. You're fired. You're fired.
00:04:28.000 Fire. Fire. You're fired.
00:04:30.020 Fire. Fire. Fire. Fire. Fire.
00:04:31.920 Fire. Fire. Fire. Fire. Fire. Fire.
00:04:33.880 Fire. Fire. Fire. Fire. Fire. Fire.
00:04:35.000 Fire. He's fired.
00:04:38.480 His show will be canceled very
00:04:39.680 soon. Cease to exist
00:04:41.680 and he'll go off into irrelevancy
00:04:43.520 just like the rest of them do.
00:04:45.480 Maybe he'll start a podcast.
00:04:47.540 Seems to be the popular thing to do these days.
00:04:49.680 Who knows where he'll go.
00:04:51.560 While all that was happening, while Hunter Biden
00:04:53.580 was teaching how to make crack and Stephen Colbert
00:04:55.380 was losing his mind over Donald Trump
00:04:57.240 cheering on that he's now been fired,
00:05:00.120 he was in the Oval Office today
00:05:01.460 and he's been unrelenting the past few
00:05:03.520 days on Adam Schiff, James
00:05:05.460 Comey, Barack Obama, all the people
00:05:07.180 who decided they were going to stage a coup against
00:05:09.440 him. First, we'll bring you the clip of
00:05:11.260 Adam Schiff was now under
00:05:13.360 investigation for mortgage fraud.
00:05:15.480 Imagine that, mortgage fraud. Take a listen.
00:05:17.560 One more thing on Adam Schiff.
00:05:19.580 Director Pulte reports
00:05:21.480 that Adam Schiff claims
00:05:23.120 he lived in a one-bedroom apartment
00:05:25.300 How does a family of four, and you're a developer,
00:05:27.660 a very successful developer, how does a family of four live in a one-bedroom apartment?
00:05:31.380 Now, it looks like Adam Schiff
00:05:32.980 really did a
00:05:35.420 bad thing.
00:05:37.040 They have him. Now, let's
00:05:39.400 see what happens. It's not up to me.
00:05:41.040 It's not up to, I stay out of it purposely.
00:05:43.660 But it's mortgage loan
00:05:45.180 fraud. It's a big deal.
00:05:47.680 He defrauded
00:05:48.480 banks and insurance companies
00:05:51.160 in the federal government, but it's
00:05:53.480 very simple. It's mortgage loan
00:05:55.240 fraud. And you're right.
00:05:56.680 That's a lot of people to live in a one-bedroom apartment,
00:05:59.300 right? But he put it down. But he has a lot
00:06:01.300 of other things far worse than that.
00:06:03.100 So, you know, Adam Schiff,
00:06:04.920 they have him 100% on
00:06:06.820 mortgage fraud.
00:06:09.580 Now, if there's anybody else
00:06:11.260 in this room except you,
00:06:12.780 you would have no problem. But anybody
00:06:15.180 else in this room, you'd have
00:06:17.220 a problem. I'd have a problem.
00:06:19.760 As I said, Schiff,
00:06:21.540 far from the only person who's been
00:06:23.100 having a rough week, Comey,
00:06:25.280 Hillary Clinton, a name you haven't heard
00:06:27.080 quite some time.
00:06:28.980 Another one having a very rough week.
00:06:31.000 Take a listen to some of his comments
00:06:32.420 on what is next for them
00:06:34.920 and what's more importantly, what's next
00:06:36.980 for the country?
00:06:37.980 Well, based on what I read, and I read
00:06:40.280 pretty much what you read,
00:06:42.160 it would be President Obama.
00:06:43.940 He started it.
00:06:45.300 And Biden was there with him.
00:06:46.540 And Comey was there.
00:06:48.820 And Clapper, the whole group
00:06:50.640 was there.
00:06:52.160 Brennan, they were all there
00:06:53.460 in a room.
00:06:54.780 Right here, this is the room.
00:06:56.400 This is much more beautiful
00:06:57.440 than it was then, but that's okay.
00:06:59.580 I have nice pictures up
00:07:00.680 that came out of the vaults.
00:07:02.740 They were in there for 100 years.
00:07:04.160 This is much more beautiful.
00:07:06.500 We have the Declaration of Independence
00:07:08.440 now in the room,
00:07:09.620 which wasn't here.
00:07:10.580 I guess people didn't feel too good
00:07:11.840 about putting it here,
00:07:13.320 but I do.
00:07:14.420 But you know what?
00:07:15.280 If you look at those papers,
00:07:17.980 they have them stone cold,
00:07:19.880 and it was President Obama.
00:07:22.040 It wasn't lots of people
00:07:24.100 all over the place.
00:07:24.980 It was them too.
00:07:26.160 But the leader of the gang
00:07:27.740 was President Obama.
00:07:29.740 Barack Hussein Obama.
00:07:31.060 Have you heard of him?
00:07:32.600 And except for the fact
00:07:33.960 that he gets shielded by the press
00:07:35.540 for his entire life,
00:07:37.720 that's the one they...
00:07:40.080 Look, he's guilty.
00:07:41.080 It's not a question...
00:07:42.300 You know, I like to say,
00:07:43.300 let's give it time.
00:07:46.120 It's there.
00:07:46.920 He's guilty.
00:07:48.200 They...
00:07:48.940 This was treason.
00:07:50.700 This was every word
00:07:52.200 you can think of.
00:07:53.540 They tried to steal the election.
00:07:55.960 They tried to obfuscate the election.
00:07:58.780 They did things
00:07:59.540 that nobody's ever even imagined,
00:08:01.520 even in other countries.
00:08:03.180 You've seen some pretty rough countries.
00:08:04.820 This man has seen
00:08:05.540 some pretty rough countries,
00:08:06.540 but you've never seen
00:08:07.800 anything like that.
00:08:08.860 And we have all of the documents.
00:08:11.520 And from what Tulsi told me,
00:08:13.940 she's got thousands
00:08:14.920 of additional documents coming.
00:08:18.020 So President Obama,
00:08:20.160 it was his concept, his idea,
00:08:23.200 but he also got it
00:08:24.480 from Crooked Hillary Clinton.
00:08:26.600 Crooked is a $3 bill.
00:08:29.000 Hillary Clinton and her group,
00:08:31.920 the Democrats,
00:08:32.680 spent $12 million
00:08:34.300 to Christopher Steele
00:08:35.820 to write up a report
00:08:37.440 that was a total fake report.
00:08:38.960 It took two years
00:08:39.560 to figure that out,
00:08:41.080 but it came out
00:08:42.000 that it was a total fake report.
00:08:44.380 It was made-up fiction.
00:08:46.360 And they used that.
00:08:47.620 Now, the one thing
00:08:48.360 they weren't able to do
00:08:49.660 was to...
00:08:50.700 And probably the only thing
00:08:52.000 I respect about the press
00:08:53.320 in years is
00:08:54.060 the press refused
00:08:56.080 to write it
00:08:56.960 before the election.
00:08:58.440 They refused to put it in.
00:09:00.340 The Steele report
00:09:01.200 was a disaster.
00:09:02.620 All lies,
00:09:03.420 all fabrication,
00:09:04.480 all admitted.
00:09:05.060 An admitted fraud.
00:09:07.680 She paid $12 million
00:09:09.160 and the Democrats
00:09:10.320 for that report
00:09:11.840 to a wise guy
00:09:12.680 named Christopher Steele.
00:09:14.300 He wrote a phony report
00:09:15.640 and they wanted
00:09:17.380 to get that report in
00:09:18.560 before the election.
00:09:20.220 And I'll tell you what,
00:09:21.000 I talk about it all the time,
00:09:22.520 the fake news,
00:09:23.180 how bad it is,
00:09:24.100 but in this case,
00:09:25.880 they wouldn't do it.
00:09:27.440 They saw it,
00:09:28.300 they read it,
00:09:28.940 and they said,
00:09:30.400 we don't believe it.
00:09:32.480 And it was only after,
00:09:33.760 substantially,
00:09:34.460 like a month and a half
00:09:35.240 after the election
00:09:36.240 that it got printed
00:09:37.540 and it was a big wisp.
00:09:38.760 It was just like a bang
00:09:39.680 of nothing
00:09:40.260 because the election
00:09:41.640 had ended.
00:09:42.640 If that report
00:09:43.800 had gotten published
00:09:45.780 by the New York Times
00:09:47.520 or somebody,
00:09:48.260 and I respect the Times
00:09:49.260 for maybe only this
00:09:50.720 because they're crooked
00:09:51.720 as you can be.
00:09:52.460 They're a terrible paper,
00:09:53.940 a crooked, corrupt paper.
00:09:56.160 But for this one moment,
00:09:58.040 they said,
00:09:58.680 this is bullshit,
00:10:00.140 we can't put this in.
00:10:01.660 And neither could
00:10:02.280 any other paper.
00:10:03.000 Wall Street Journal
00:10:03.680 is a lousy paper,
00:10:04.780 very, very dishonest paper.
00:10:07.000 As you see,
00:10:07.600 I'm suing them
00:10:08.180 for a lot of money
00:10:08.860 because they do things
00:10:10.360 very badly.
00:10:11.700 It's a really,
00:10:12.420 it's got a nice name,
00:10:13.440 but it's really,
00:10:14.180 in my opinion,
00:10:14.900 it's a terrible paper
00:10:15.940 and it can be corrupt.
00:10:18.940 But just so you know,
00:10:20.800 they didn't take
00:10:22.740 the Steele report.
00:10:23.640 It was the dossier,
00:10:25.080 remember the famous dossier?
00:10:26.620 I called it
00:10:27.000 the fake news dossier.
00:10:28.780 The news wouldn't publish it.
00:10:31.580 And I'm amazed.
00:10:32.940 They had two and a half months.
00:10:34.140 It was finished.
00:10:35.360 Two and a half months.
00:10:36.400 That was supposed to be
00:10:37.380 what was going to happen.
00:10:38.820 And it got published
00:10:40.020 a couple of months
00:10:40.760 after the election.
00:10:42.640 And frankly,
00:10:43.260 nobody cared too much about it.
00:10:44.960 But that was a big thing.
00:10:46.320 No, no.
00:10:46.680 We caught Hillary Clinton.
00:10:48.380 We caught Barack Hussein Obama.
00:10:51.000 They're the ones.
00:10:52.100 And then you have
00:10:52.780 many, many people under them.
00:10:54.280 And Susan Rice.
00:10:55.600 They're all there.
00:10:57.200 The names are all there.
00:10:59.500 And I guess they figured
00:11:00.520 they're going to put this
00:11:01.340 in classified information
00:11:02.780 and nobody will ever
00:11:04.440 see it again.
00:11:05.100 But it doesn't work that way.
00:11:07.280 And it's the most
00:11:08.440 unbelievable thing
00:11:09.420 I think I've ever read.
00:11:10.460 So you ought to
00:11:11.560 take a look at that
00:11:12.480 and stop talking
00:11:14.040 about nonsense
00:11:14.740 because this is big stuff.
00:11:17.040 Never has a thing
00:11:17.980 like this happened
00:11:18.820 in the history
00:11:19.540 of our country.
00:11:20.240 And President Trump
00:11:21.980 taking that fight
00:11:23.040 to exactly those people
00:11:24.180 who have sought
00:11:25.940 to undermine
00:11:26.400 American democracy
00:11:27.480 in this country
00:11:28.340 and him and his administration
00:11:29.860 for the last 10 years.
00:11:32.120 It seems truth and justice
00:11:33.360 may finally be
00:11:34.160 at the forefront
00:11:34.740 of this administration
00:11:36.280 and at the forefront
00:11:37.820 of America.
00:11:38.880 Our guest today
00:11:39.480 knows a little bit
00:11:40.220 about this,
00:11:41.240 the Russia collusion hoax.
00:11:42.680 He's written three books
00:11:43.400 on his latest
00:11:44.040 disappearing the president.
00:11:45.920 The great Lee Smith
00:11:46.900 joins us after this
00:11:47.960 quick break.
00:11:48.620 Stay with us.
00:11:49.100 We'll come right back.
00:11:55.860 Lee Smith, as always,
00:11:57.600 I appreciate you
00:11:58.420 joining us here
00:11:58.880 on The Great America Show.
00:11:59.640 There's so much
00:12:00.040 to talk about,
00:12:00.720 but this is something
00:12:01.480 in particular,
00:12:02.740 my monologue
00:12:03.360 I just laid out.
00:12:04.740 This is something
00:12:05.220 that's been going on
00:12:05.840 with President Trump
00:12:06.480 since 2016, 2015.
00:12:09.240 You've been writing
00:12:10.000 about it since then.
00:12:11.920 You've written a book
00:12:12.820 that caught the eye
00:12:13.680 of Lou Dobbs.
00:12:14.860 He said we need
00:12:15.480 Lee Smith on the show
00:12:16.240 and it's been
00:12:16.680 all history from there.
00:12:18.280 So you know
00:12:18.680 this perhaps better
00:12:19.500 than anybody.
00:12:20.900 Lay out for us,
00:12:21.820 if you will, Lee,
00:12:22.980 the latest revelations
00:12:24.400 in what Tulsi Gabbard
00:12:25.760 just declassified.
00:12:28.000 Well, I mean,
00:12:29.160 she sheds
00:12:30.080 more light
00:12:31.260 on something
00:12:31.880 that I have been reporting,
00:12:33.140 as you say, John,
00:12:33.920 for quite some time now,
00:12:36.060 that Barack Obama
00:12:37.500 was really the one
00:12:38.420 who was
00:12:39.080 the one in charge here.
00:12:40.940 He was the one
00:12:41.960 who told them
00:12:42.820 to,
00:12:43.540 who told his
00:12:44.300 intelligence chiefs,
00:12:45.320 in particular,
00:12:45.860 John Brennan,
00:12:46.660 to revise
00:12:47.600 the intelligence
00:12:48.360 community assessment
00:12:49.380 that would
00:12:50.640 delegitimize
00:12:52.540 the Trump presidency
00:12:53.680 by saying that,
00:12:55.400 yeah,
00:12:55.540 Vladimir Putin
00:12:56.460 aspired to help
00:12:58.360 Trump win.
00:12:59.660 And so,
00:12:59.980 again,
00:13:00.160 that delegitimized
00:13:01.520 Trump's presidency,
00:13:02.980 but also it delegitimized
00:13:04.460 half of the electorate,
00:13:05.540 those people
00:13:06.020 who vote for Donald Trump,
00:13:07.500 because the message
00:13:08.180 was that,
00:13:08.780 well,
00:13:09.040 these people
00:13:09.480 didn't really vote
00:13:10.160 for an American.
00:13:11.000 At best,
00:13:11.400 they were suckers.
00:13:12.120 At worst,
00:13:12.480 they were willing
00:13:13.460 collaborators
00:13:14.200 in a foreign,
00:13:16.020 in a foreign operation
00:13:17.900 to undermine
00:13:19.380 the United States
00:13:20.800 of America.
00:13:21.320 So it's incredibly
00:13:22.180 destructive
00:13:22.700 what Obama did.
00:13:24.220 But the,
00:13:24.680 again,
00:13:25.840 the documents
00:13:27.020 that DNI
00:13:28.640 made available
00:13:29.400 shed more light
00:13:30.440 on this.
00:13:31.100 They show,
00:13:31.680 you know,
00:13:31.960 they show the,
00:13:32.820 they show the people
00:13:34.000 at different meetings
00:13:35.080 who were running this,
00:13:37.120 and this was
00:13:37.500 at the White House.
00:13:38.780 And,
00:13:39.400 you know,
00:13:40.120 it was Barack Obama
00:13:41.340 who told them
00:13:42.360 how to,
00:13:44.040 how to write
00:13:45.020 this intelligence
00:13:45.720 community assessment.
00:13:46.940 He was the one
00:13:47.680 who wanted it finished
00:13:48.680 before he left office.
00:13:50.320 Again,
00:13:50.740 this is something
00:13:51.360 that we've known.
00:13:52.200 It's something I reported
00:13:53.220 in my 2019 book,
00:13:54.560 Plot Against the President,
00:13:56.260 where Devin Nunes
00:13:57.240 saw exactly
00:13:58.540 what had happened.
00:14:00.020 But again,
00:14:00.900 a DNI here
00:14:01.580 has shed more light on it,
00:14:02.580 which is excellent.
00:14:03.480 Happy to have it.
00:14:04.540 But it is something
00:14:05.260 that we've been talking about
00:14:06.340 and something
00:14:06.900 that we've known
00:14:08.060 for quite some time.
00:14:10.040 So this is something
00:14:11.020 I've taken big issue with
00:14:12.140 and I've always asked
00:14:12.960 Lou this question
00:14:13.800 and he said
00:14:14.480 he would tell me one day,
00:14:15.380 unfortunately,
00:14:15.800 he's no longer here
00:14:16.540 to tell me
00:14:17.120 the answer
00:14:17.940 to what he believed
00:14:18.900 was the question.
00:14:19.960 And it was why
00:14:20.920 Donald Trump
00:14:21.680 set this precedent
00:14:22.800 of not going after
00:14:24.580 corrupt politicians.
00:14:25.860 And one of them
00:14:26.640 was Hillary Clinton.
00:14:27.840 Take a listen
00:14:28.540 to him being asked
00:14:29.440 about it today.
00:14:30.340 The woodshot
00:14:30.840 that you should be
00:14:31.480 talking about
00:14:32.120 is they caught
00:14:33.080 President Obama
00:14:34.020 absolutely cold,
00:14:35.860 Tulsi Gabbard,
00:14:37.120 what they did
00:14:38.680 to this country
00:14:39.480 in 2016,
00:14:41.320 starting in 2016,
00:14:42.740 but going up
00:14:43.400 all the way
00:14:43.960 going up to
00:14:44.740 2020 in the election.
00:14:46.840 They tried to
00:14:47.540 rig the election
00:14:48.340 and they got caught.
00:14:50.560 And there should be
00:14:51.280 very severe consequences
00:14:52.620 for that.
00:14:53.680 You know,
00:14:53.900 when we caught
00:14:54.460 Hillary Clinton,
00:14:55.220 I said,
00:14:55.580 you know what,
00:14:56.780 let's not go
00:14:58.560 too far here.
00:14:59.520 It's the ex-wife
00:15:01.020 of a president
00:15:01.720 and I thought
00:15:02.340 it was sort of
00:15:03.320 terrible.
00:15:03.920 And I let her
00:15:04.880 off the hook
00:15:05.440 and I'm very happy
00:15:06.740 I did.
00:15:07.780 But it's time
00:15:08.760 to start
00:15:09.300 after what they
00:15:10.720 did to me
00:15:11.360 and whether
00:15:13.700 it's right or wrong,
00:15:14.640 it's time to go
00:15:15.300 after people.
00:15:16.700 Obama's been
00:15:17.500 caught directly.
00:15:18.980 So people say,
00:15:19.740 oh, you know,
00:15:20.260 a group.
00:15:20.660 It's not a group.
00:15:21.680 It's Obama.
00:15:22.660 His orders
00:15:23.140 are on the paper.
00:15:24.360 The papers are signed.
00:15:25.600 The papers came
00:15:26.280 right out of their office.
00:15:27.300 They sent everything
00:15:28.100 to be highly classified.
00:15:29.940 Well,
00:15:30.100 the highly classified
00:15:30.980 has been released
00:15:31.860 and what they did
00:15:33.660 in 2016
00:15:34.800 and in 2020
00:15:35.780 is very criminal.
00:15:38.880 It's criminal
00:15:39.380 at the highest level.
00:15:40.780 So that's really
00:15:41.740 the things
00:15:42.260 you should be talking about.
00:15:44.220 So it was something,
00:15:45.360 Lee,
00:15:45.520 I could never figure out
00:15:47.280 why he didn't
00:15:48.400 prosecute Hillary Clinton.
00:15:49.340 I think there was
00:15:49.780 more than enough there
00:15:50.700 to get her.
00:15:52.220 What's your take
00:15:52.840 on why he never did?
00:15:54.420 On Hillary Clinton?
00:15:55.260 I mean,
00:15:55.480 I don't know
00:15:56.560 at the time
00:15:57.080 what was there
00:15:57.920 to go after Hillary Clinton.
00:15:59.240 I mean,
00:16:00.200 I guess they
00:16:01.040 could have found
00:16:02.080 a different way
00:16:03.000 to maybe they
00:16:04.560 could have reopened
00:16:05.380 the email investigation
00:16:07.260 into her mishandling
00:16:08.200 of classified intelligence
00:16:09.440 because FBI documents
00:16:11.460 show that she definitely
00:16:12.580 mishandled classified
00:16:13.760 intelligence.
00:16:15.040 And in fact,
00:16:15.800 you know,
00:16:17.240 there was some
00:16:17.940 information that came
00:16:20.000 out of the Department
00:16:20.620 of Justice
00:16:21.060 this week
00:16:21.720 showing that,
00:16:23.360 you know,
00:16:24.620 showing different
00:16:25.340 problems
00:16:26.080 with that investigation.
00:16:28.420 And in fact,
00:16:29.500 I've reported
00:16:30.140 this before,
00:16:30.900 too,
00:16:31.580 that one of Hillary's
00:16:32.620 emails that she sent
00:16:33.820 from,
00:16:34.440 she was on the tarmac
00:16:35.840 in St. Petersburg
00:16:36.740 June 2012
00:16:38.740 and actually July 2012,
00:16:41.700 I believe it was
00:16:42.640 when she,
00:16:43.000 early July 2012,
00:16:44.940 she replied
00:16:45.500 to an email
00:16:46.880 to the president
00:16:48.060 at the time,
00:16:48.940 Barack Obama,
00:16:49.700 and it appears
00:16:50.760 that those emails
00:16:51.660 that allowed her email
00:16:53.160 to be hacked
00:16:53.700 by the Russians
00:16:54.300 and maybe Obama's,
00:16:55.540 too.
00:16:56.200 Because this report
00:16:56.980 that came out
00:16:57.800 this week
00:16:58.720 was talking about
00:16:59.740 Obama's email
00:17:00.920 being hacked
00:17:01.700 and that's probably
00:17:02.480 how it happened.
00:17:03.260 So is that what
00:17:04.560 President Trump
00:17:06.060 could have gone
00:17:07.560 after her for?
00:17:08.500 I guess.
00:17:09.380 There wasn't enough
00:17:10.400 information yet
00:17:11.420 about what had happened
00:17:12.480 with what was going
00:17:14.660 on with Russiagate.
00:17:15.740 Though it's worth
00:17:16.320 remembering
00:17:16.820 the first person
00:17:18.200 who really understood
00:17:19.620 what Barack Obama
00:17:22.060 had done
00:17:22.500 is Donald Trump
00:17:23.200 himself
00:17:23.680 in a March,
00:17:24.340 I believe it was
00:17:24.660 March 4th,
00:17:25.400 2017 tweet
00:17:26.660 saying,
00:17:27.200 I just found out
00:17:28.400 that Obama
00:17:28.880 had my phones
00:17:29.840 tapped
00:17:30.300 at Trump Tower.
00:17:31.860 The President,
00:17:33.060 President Trump
00:17:33.780 didn't have the,
00:17:35.120 you know,
00:17:35.340 the details
00:17:36.240 exactly right,
00:17:37.420 but he was
00:17:37.920 basically right.
00:17:39.060 And they said
00:17:39.440 he was crazy, Lee.
00:17:40.400 They said he was crazy.
00:17:41.080 Well, yeah,
00:17:41.200 they said he was crazy,
00:17:42.140 right.
00:17:42.460 No one understood,
00:17:43.680 right.
00:17:44.040 They said it was crazy
00:17:45.240 and libelous
00:17:45.980 and scandalous
00:17:46.640 and whatever.
00:17:47.560 But Donald Trump
00:17:48.260 was right.
00:17:48.800 But John,
00:17:49.380 I would say
00:17:50.820 the bigger problem
00:17:51.620 is not what
00:17:52.760 the New York Times
00:17:53.660 and the Washington Post
00:17:54.580 were saying,
00:17:55.240 what we were expecting
00:17:56.120 to say,
00:17:56.840 because that Republicans
00:17:57.660 weren't listening,
00:17:58.800 right.
00:17:59.920 Republicans weren't
00:18:00.740 paying attention.
00:18:01.940 And that's why,
00:18:02.700 you know,
00:18:03.240 and that's why,
00:18:04.140 you know,
00:18:04.940 why I kept writing
00:18:06.200 about this,
00:18:06.900 kept saying,
00:18:07.260 look,
00:18:07.780 none of this
00:18:08.760 happens without cover,
00:18:11.200 without top cover.
00:18:12.300 And the person
00:18:13.020 at the top
00:18:13.480 was Barack Obama.
00:18:14.520 John Brennan,
00:18:16.780 James Comey,
00:18:17.560 James Clapper,
00:18:18.460 these were all senior,
00:18:19.900 these were all
00:18:20.680 cabinet,
00:18:21.280 cabinet posts,
00:18:23.340 but they're all
00:18:23.940 bureaucrats finally,
00:18:25.140 right.
00:18:25.620 Bureaucrats don't act
00:18:26.780 unless they have top cover.
00:18:28.400 So that's obviously
00:18:30.320 what happened.
00:18:31.020 And again,
00:18:31.500 these documents
00:18:32.440 that were released
00:18:33.120 last week by the DNI
00:18:34.740 give us,
00:18:35.900 give us more information
00:18:37.480 on that.
00:18:38.980 Yeah.
00:18:40.000 It's indisputable
00:18:41.100 the amount
00:18:41.780 that you've written
00:18:42.420 on this compared
00:18:43.060 to perhaps anybody
00:18:44.560 in it.
00:18:44.860 I'm talking about
00:18:45.420 everybody at Breitbart
00:18:46.460 and everybody
00:18:47.360 at the Gateway Pundit.
00:18:48.320 Those are two
00:18:48.720 of my favorites.
00:18:49.160 I mean,
00:18:49.580 I wrote three books
00:18:50.400 on it,
00:18:50.920 so.
00:18:51.420 Right.
00:18:51.740 I'm saying it's
00:18:52.320 indisputable
00:18:52.800 that you have,
00:18:54.380 you know,
00:18:54.720 this perhaps better
00:18:55.460 than anybody,
00:18:56.680 maybe even more
00:18:57.300 than Donald Trump,
00:18:58.100 which is why you've,
00:18:58.940 I think,
00:18:59.880 invested so much time
00:19:00.880 in it because,
00:19:01.360 you know,
00:19:01.540 the miscarriage
00:19:02.300 of justice
00:19:02.780 and the disservice
00:19:03.520 to this country
00:19:04.160 that it's brought forward.
00:19:06.940 Now,
00:19:07.040 let me ask you a question.
00:19:07.880 We've heard about
00:19:09.020 these Epstein files
00:19:09.820 maybe being deleted,
00:19:11.020 maybe being washed away,
00:19:12.620 whatever the facts may be.
00:19:15.140 I'm not talking about that,
00:19:16.540 but we have heard
00:19:17.540 that maybe some things
00:19:18.460 were deleted.
00:19:19.500 Why would Joe Biden
00:19:21.600 allow these documents
00:19:23.520 to not be destroyed?
00:19:25.540 Is there some sort
00:19:26.640 of animosity
00:19:27.540 between him
00:19:28.660 and Barack Obama?
00:19:30.420 Regarding Epstein?
00:19:31.900 No, no,
00:19:32.280 regarding these documents.
00:19:33.520 So if they deleted
00:19:34.180 the Epstein documents
00:19:35.020 and those were destroyed,
00:19:36.180 why would Joe Biden,
00:19:37.220 if he was in office
00:19:37.900 for the last four years,
00:19:39.760 allow these documents
00:19:40.760 to still be there?
00:19:43.540 You mean,
00:19:44.320 you mean the stuff
00:19:45.480 showing that Obama
00:19:46.360 was at the head of,
00:19:47.840 you know,
00:19:48.280 was at the head of this?
00:19:49.520 Well,
00:19:49.720 I mean,
00:19:50.020 Biden wouldn't have known
00:19:50.960 where they were.
00:19:52.740 You know,
00:19:53.320 remember how deeply
00:19:54.640 these documents
00:19:55.500 were buried,
00:19:56.380 right?
00:19:56.700 So I'm not just
00:19:57.320 referring to
00:19:58.780 Joe Biden's
00:20:00.880 cognitive challenges.
00:20:02.220 I'm also saying
00:20:02.800 that these,
00:20:03.900 look,
00:20:04.240 Devin Nunes,
00:20:04.920 when he was leading
00:20:06.400 the congressional
00:20:07.220 investigation,
00:20:07.800 they were supposed
00:20:08.660 to give him everything.
00:20:10.160 So he should have
00:20:10.800 gotten stuff like this.
00:20:12.180 And then remember
00:20:12.720 the Kash Patel
00:20:13.860 was working with
00:20:15.260 Rick Grinnell
00:20:15.840 at D&I at the time
00:20:16.940 and they were very aggressive,
00:20:18.220 declassifying lots of stuff,
00:20:19.800 as was John Radcliffe
00:20:21.120 who followed Grinnell.
00:20:22.640 Well,
00:20:22.880 Rick Grinnell
00:20:23.680 was the acting D&I.
00:20:26.060 Then Radcliffe
00:20:26.580 had the position.
00:20:28.020 It was confirmed.
00:20:29.500 So these people
00:20:30.360 were all looking
00:20:30.940 for stuff
00:20:31.500 and they found
00:20:32.020 a lot of stuff
00:20:32.700 and declassified
00:20:33.380 a lot of very important
00:20:34.400 information,
00:20:36.400 as did John Durham.
00:20:38.720 So,
00:20:39.300 again,
00:20:40.320 kudos to Tulsi Gabbard
00:20:42.140 for finding this stuff.
00:20:44.420 It's great she did,
00:20:45.860 but yeah,
00:20:46.400 that's,
00:20:46.860 I mean,
00:20:47.780 that's,
00:20:48.120 they just,
00:20:50.260 they buried it
00:20:51.040 for a long time.
00:20:52.080 So again,
00:20:52.300 let me ask,
00:20:53.820 if you're planning on,
00:20:55.220 I mean,
00:20:55.460 it's treasonous
00:20:56.100 to try to overthrow
00:20:56.940 a president,
00:20:57.560 it's treasonous
00:20:58.100 to try to do
00:20:58.680 what they did.
00:20:59.800 Why would they,
00:21:00.460 do you think
00:21:00.860 they were stupid
00:21:01.400 or just flat out brazen
00:21:02.700 to be keeping documents
00:21:04.500 on trying to overthrow
00:21:05.280 a president?
00:21:06.640 Again,
00:21:07.120 I think a lot,
00:21:07.780 I think a lot of people
00:21:08.600 didn't know
00:21:09.100 where these things were.
00:21:10.380 I think,
00:21:10.800 look,
00:21:10.980 there must be tons
00:21:11.660 of stuff that's still,
00:21:12.720 why even have them exist
00:21:13.940 if you're Barack Obama?
00:21:15.160 Because,
00:21:15.700 I mean,
00:21:16.120 I can't go into,
00:21:18.060 I can't,
00:21:18.560 I cannot speak
00:21:19.560 with any authority
00:21:20.440 on how the record system works,
00:21:22.320 but remember,
00:21:23.100 these stuff,
00:21:23.880 these things
00:21:24.360 are supposed to be
00:21:24.920 digitally stored.
00:21:26.800 So it's,
00:21:27.600 this goes to the heart
00:21:28.980 of the whole
00:21:29.380 Mar-a-Lago story
00:21:30.460 as well,
00:21:31.520 right?
00:21:31.920 We're really going
00:21:33.060 far afield here,
00:21:33.860 but I'll explain.
00:21:35.140 You know,
00:21:35.400 when they tried
00:21:35.880 to frame Trump
00:21:36.740 for stealing documents
00:21:38.860 and taking it
00:21:39.660 to Mar-a-Lago,
00:21:40.600 none of these
00:21:41.120 were original documents.
00:21:42.680 There were two
00:21:43.160 original documents
00:21:44.200 that Donald Trump
00:21:45.020 was holding,
00:21:45.880 right?
00:21:46.540 And these were,
00:21:47.860 or was probably holding,
00:21:49.320 this was the letter
00:21:50.480 that Barack Obama
00:21:51.500 left for him
00:21:52.080 in the Resolute desk
00:21:53.180 in 2017
00:21:54.440 and also his correspondence
00:21:55.840 with Kim Jong-un,
00:21:57.280 right?
00:21:57.640 Everything else
00:21:58.200 was a copy
00:21:58.840 because that's the way
00:22:00.680 the world works now.
00:22:02.040 Now,
00:22:02.200 if we all go
00:22:02.880 and we think about it
00:22:04.000 and we look at how
00:22:04.740 we're looking at our phone,
00:22:06.100 we're watching you and me
00:22:07.380 on our computer
00:22:08.380 or whatever,
00:22:09.040 that's how the world works.
00:22:10.620 That's how records
00:22:11.580 are made digitally,
00:22:13.380 right?
00:22:13.800 So,
00:22:14.360 again,
00:22:15.120 I can speak
00:22:15.880 with no authority
00:22:16.860 about how,
00:22:18.100 we all know
00:22:19.180 how they're created,
00:22:20.560 but whether it's easy
00:22:21.660 to delete records
00:22:23.220 like this
00:22:23.920 from an electronic system,
00:22:26.720 they probably,
00:22:28.260 probably too easily,
00:22:29.840 but it's,
00:22:30.880 you know,
00:22:31.200 again,
00:22:32.160 that's going into,
00:22:33.640 that's going into
00:22:34.500 a lot of detail.
00:22:35.440 No,
00:22:35.800 no,
00:22:35.880 I understand all that,
00:22:37.420 but Lee,
00:22:37.820 I'm just thinking,
00:22:38.840 back then when the mafia
00:22:39.840 was doing hits on people,
00:22:41.740 when the mafia was doing,
00:22:42.860 when the mafia,
00:22:43.320 they weren't saying,
00:22:43.820 hey,
00:22:44.000 we're going to practice.
00:22:44.800 The mafia was doing hits
00:22:45.380 on people,
00:22:46.020 they weren't,
00:22:46.480 you know,
00:22:46.880 they weren't keeping records
00:22:48.120 digital,
00:22:49.220 right?
00:22:49.620 They weren't even writing
00:22:50.800 it down.
00:22:51.280 Keep records
00:22:52.100 when you're in the mafia,
00:22:53.300 right?
00:22:53.560 That's the whole story
00:22:54.460 about casino,
00:22:55.580 right?
00:22:55.880 That's how they all get
00:22:57.320 brought down.
00:22:58.500 Right.
00:22:59.280 That's why it's just
00:23:00.420 so mind-blowing to me.
00:23:01.280 If you're going to do
00:23:01.700 something as stupid as that.
00:23:02.600 Because they're bureaucrats,
00:23:04.080 this is the key.
00:23:05.040 We have to understand
00:23:06.000 this is the key
00:23:06.820 to the story.
00:23:07.940 This is what bureaucrats do.
00:23:09.780 They keep paper around
00:23:11.360 to cover for themselves.
00:23:12.960 That was the tip-off
00:23:14.340 the whole time,
00:23:15.340 and that's why you know
00:23:16.660 that Barack Obama
00:23:17.640 was running it.
00:23:18.520 That's why they kept
00:23:19.800 records to show
00:23:20.780 who's calling the shots,
00:23:22.400 and that's why you can
00:23:23.420 find all of this stuff
00:23:24.680 because the bureaucrats
00:23:25.580 need to keep it
00:23:26.420 to cover themselves.
00:23:27.660 Who said it's okay
00:23:28.380 for me to do it?
00:23:29.560 Well,
00:23:29.860 this guy in charge
00:23:30.880 was the number one guy.
00:23:32.000 It wasn't me.
00:23:33.020 I didn't give the orders.
00:23:34.120 I'm just following orders here.
00:23:35.920 That's the way bureaucrats
00:23:37.040 have been the world over
00:23:38.580 since the beginning
00:23:39.480 of bureaucracies.
00:23:41.000 So you're asking
00:23:41.740 why those records
00:23:42.500 are there?
00:23:43.260 Because it's a bureaucracy.
00:23:44.800 Now,
00:23:45.140 those records
00:23:45.600 will be buried.
00:23:46.480 They have been buried,
00:23:47.440 but they'll be there.
00:23:48.520 So do you think
00:23:55.180 John Ratcliffe
00:23:55.880 was,
00:23:56.180 I guess,
00:23:57.240 acting on DNI
00:23:58.380 for a lot of seconds?
00:23:59.860 No,
00:23:59.960 he was real.
00:24:01.080 He was confirmed.
00:24:02.160 He was DNI.
00:24:02.540 Okay,
00:24:02.740 so he's there
00:24:03.980 for a little bit of time
00:24:05.000 with Donald Trump
00:24:05.640 around his first time.
00:24:07.440 Do you think
00:24:07.800 it's an accident
00:24:08.520 that Ratcliffe
00:24:09.220 didn't find these
00:24:09.980 and somehow
00:24:10.400 told him?
00:24:10.820 I just said
00:24:12.640 how difficult
00:24:13.180 it is
00:24:13.640 to find these.
00:24:15.880 And again,
00:24:16.180 they hid them.
00:24:16.940 They buried them.
00:24:17.680 They were supposed
00:24:18.120 to give them
00:24:18.560 to Devin Noon
00:24:19.220 as they didn't.
00:24:20.240 John Ratcliffe
00:24:21.060 from what I can tell
00:24:22.960 is doing
00:24:23.380 an outstanding job
00:24:24.640 as the director
00:24:25.440 of the Central
00:24:26.100 Intelligence Agency.
00:24:27.600 I know there's
00:24:27.940 lots of speculation
00:24:28.920 often from,
00:24:31.160 for the most part,
00:24:31.860 from very,
00:24:32.540 very bad actors,
00:24:34.160 even on our side,
00:24:36.080 especially bad actors,
00:24:37.980 creating a lot
00:24:38.640 of suspicion
00:24:39.200 about John Ratcliffe.
00:24:40.620 John Ratcliffe
00:24:41.240 is not targeting
00:24:42.340 Donald Trump,
00:24:43.900 right?
00:24:44.120 John Ratcliffe
00:24:44.720 has been a Trump loyalist
00:24:45.940 certainly since
00:24:46.560 the first impeachment process
00:24:48.000 when,
00:24:48.580 as a former federal prosecutor,
00:24:50.600 Ratcliffe really,
00:24:51.880 really made his name
00:24:54.600 defending Trump
00:24:55.900 in that first impeachment process.
00:24:57.460 Again,
00:24:58.020 as DNI
00:24:58.860 at the end of Trump's
00:24:59.720 first term,
00:25:00.480 he did a great job then.
00:25:01.780 I'm certain
00:25:02.580 he's doing a terrific job now
00:25:04.600 as director
00:25:05.100 of the Central Intelligence Agency.
00:25:07.040 It's been such a tough
00:25:09.040 last 10 years,
00:25:09.960 I think,
00:25:10.280 for all these people
00:25:11.100 around him
00:25:11.520 because you really
00:25:12.020 don't know
00:25:12.620 at this point,
00:25:13.180 Lee,
00:25:13.360 how many...
00:25:13.760 No,
00:25:14.020 you know.
00:25:14.880 No,
00:25:15.180 I'm just saying...
00:25:15.920 There's a lot,
00:25:16.760 there's a lot,
00:25:17.500 again,
00:25:17.960 there's a lot of bad people
00:25:19.380 and we know who they are.
00:25:21.080 No,
00:25:21.280 I'm not saying Ratcliffe.
00:25:22.340 No,
00:25:22.620 no,
00:25:22.940 I'm saying the people
00:25:24.040 who are making noise
00:25:24.980 about Ratcliffe,
00:25:25.940 the people who are saying
00:25:26.760 bad things about Ratcliffe.
00:25:28.340 These are the same people
00:25:29.420 who are putting forth lies
00:25:30.480 like,
00:25:30.780 oh yeah,
00:25:31.440 Jeffrey Epstein
00:25:32.080 was a Mossad agent
00:25:33.160 and Donald Trump
00:25:33.960 is protecting a,
00:25:34.960 protecting a Jewish
00:25:36.100 operation to rape
00:25:37.360 American girls.
00:25:38.760 I mean,
00:25:39.000 it's garbage.
00:25:40.140 It's the same people
00:25:41.100 and you know exactly
00:25:41.960 who I'm talking about.
00:25:43.340 These are the people
00:25:44.120 who are targeting
00:25:44.800 Ratcliffe now too.
00:25:46.960 The truth is
00:25:47.600 we still have people
00:25:48.400 and I'm not saying Ratcliffe,
00:25:49.400 I'm not saying Tulsi,
00:25:50.060 but there are people
00:25:50.620 in these agencies
00:25:51.220 who are still buried deep
00:25:52.380 and I think there was
00:25:54.980 a perfect example of that
00:25:57.840 when Tulsi Gabbard
00:25:59.120 sat before a committee
00:26:00.240 in the Senate
00:26:01.440 and spoke about
00:26:02.560 nuclear weapons
00:26:03.280 and it put her
00:26:03.760 at a clear disconnect
00:26:04.560 with Donald Trump,
00:26:05.400 which caused some fraying.
00:26:07.160 I knew then and there
00:26:08.060 there was an issue
00:26:08.920 and you know,
00:26:09.920 I talked to Roger Stone
00:26:10.820 every day
00:26:11.260 and he's good friends
00:26:11.860 and he says
00:26:12.800 they're gunning for him.
00:26:14.300 Now we get these documents out
00:26:15.480 and it's clear,
00:26:16.840 it's clear why
00:26:17.940 there's people gunning
00:26:19.460 for Tulsi,
00:26:19.980 there's people gunning
00:26:20.700 for Ratcliffe
00:26:21.520 because these guys
00:26:22.500 are trying to figure out
00:26:23.660 what you said,
00:26:24.820 you know,
00:26:25.580 where I guess
00:26:26.500 the metaphorical bodies
00:26:27.500 are buried.
00:26:28.300 The DNI,
00:26:29.120 as you said,
00:26:31.140 when she started talking
00:26:33.380 about Iran's
00:26:34.820 nuclear weapons program,
00:26:36.940 you're right,
00:26:37.620 John,
00:26:38.080 that put her at odds
00:26:39.780 with the president
00:26:40.640 in a very significant way.
00:26:43.060 I don't know
00:26:43.680 if people are gunning
00:26:44.580 for her or not,
00:26:45.680 but that put her
00:26:46.920 at odds with the president
00:26:47.820 and that's,
00:26:48.980 you know,
00:26:49.260 something between
00:26:50.060 the DNI
00:26:50.840 and the president
00:26:51.720 to resolve
00:26:52.480 in whatever way
00:26:53.140 they can.
00:26:54.040 She absolutely
00:26:54.720 deserves credit
00:26:55.740 for, again,
00:26:56.880 finding these documents
00:26:57.860 and shedding more light
00:26:59.160 in a very important
00:27:00.160 historical
00:27:01.460 and political issue.
00:27:02.660 I mean,
00:27:02.800 this is an enormous,
00:27:04.380 an enormous issue
00:27:05.340 for Americans
00:27:06.460 now and going forward.
00:27:09.280 The similarities
00:27:09.900 are so big
00:27:11.600 between Tulsi
00:27:12.280 and Trump,
00:27:12.880 right?
00:27:13.480 Neither of their parties
00:27:14.340 wanted them.
00:27:15.060 Neither of their parties
00:27:15.700 did everything they could
00:27:16.520 to try to extinct them
00:27:17.420 of them.
00:27:18.100 The Democratic Party
00:27:18.840 was very successful
00:27:19.640 in getting rid of Tulsi Gabbard
00:27:20.860 and stealing
00:27:21.300 and cheating from her.
00:27:22.380 The Republican Party
00:27:23.140 was almost successful
00:27:25.020 in 2016
00:27:25.820 for an overwhelming
00:27:27.700 amount of voters.
00:27:28.680 I think,
00:27:29.000 you know,
00:27:29.440 she's doing a terrific job
00:27:30.660 at what we've got.
00:27:31.460 So how do you think
00:27:32.240 this whole process
00:27:32.940 now progresses?
00:27:33.880 Do you think
00:27:34.440 that this will finally
00:27:35.740 be a time
00:27:36.440 where people
00:27:37.120 could be satisfied
00:27:39.480 with an investigation
00:27:40.420 from our Department
00:27:41.460 of Justice?
00:27:42.260 Well,
00:27:42.460 yeah,
00:27:43.440 I think that people
00:27:44.080 should be optimistic.
00:27:45.480 I mean,
00:27:45.720 we see from,
00:27:46.660 you know,
00:27:46.960 their reports,
00:27:47.760 I believe that John Solomon
00:27:48.960 at the top of the list
00:27:50.080 is reporting that,
00:27:51.620 you know,
00:27:51.820 that he believes
00:27:52.540 that DOJ and FBI
00:27:53.780 are building a case.
00:27:55.140 And the person
00:27:55.900 who's now FBI director,
00:27:57.340 Kash Patel,
00:27:58.140 I mean,
00:27:58.520 you know,
00:27:58.800 he was the lead
00:27:59.440 investigator for Devin Nunes.
00:28:00.820 So we have the right
00:28:02.560 people in place.
00:28:03.600 You know,
00:28:04.040 there's no reason
00:28:05.160 for us to be Pollyanna-ish.
00:28:06.540 We see the different,
00:28:07.660 we see the different challenges
00:28:08.900 and what it's going to be like
00:28:10.360 to build a case
00:28:11.420 to bring charges
00:28:13.760 and to win convictions
00:28:15.140 to put some of these
00:28:17.080 very bad actors
00:28:17.980 in orange jumpsuits.
00:28:19.380 But I think that also
00:28:20.320 we shouldn't be,
00:28:21.280 we shouldn't be pessimistic.
00:28:23.600 I mean,
00:28:23.800 we elected Donald Trump
00:28:25.040 because we were optimistic
00:28:26.100 about the country,
00:28:27.100 elected Donald Trump
00:28:28.080 because of the optimism
00:28:29.740 because that Donald Trump,
00:28:32.060 you know,
00:28:32.400 promised to get
00:28:33.580 certain things done.
00:28:35.460 So,
00:28:36.320 again,
00:28:37.380 the idea that we're going
00:28:38.120 to go south on that
00:28:39.180 and say,
00:28:39.540 no,
00:28:39.780 no,
00:28:40.000 no,
00:28:40.240 I believe that nothing
00:28:41.160 is ever going to happen.
00:28:42.060 I mean,
00:28:42.240 that's,
00:28:42.720 you know,
00:28:43.360 that run,
00:28:44.040 that cuts against the grain
00:28:45.560 of what the,
00:28:46.660 of what Donald Trump's
00:28:47.740 second term is supposed to be.
00:28:49.060 We're supposed to be optimistic
00:28:50.520 that things will happen,
00:28:51.900 that wrongs will be righted,
00:28:53.820 that there will be
00:28:55.120 redemption and justice.
00:28:56.620 It's no,
00:28:57.780 no,
00:28:58.080 I think that we should be optimistic
00:28:59.360 and I certainly am.
00:29:00.700 The way I see it,
00:29:01.660 Lee,
00:29:01.820 is that these Epstein files
00:29:03.060 and what many people
00:29:04.640 are calling mishandling of them
00:29:05.800 was a test.
00:29:07.820 You saw what happened
00:29:08.660 for the last two and a half weeks.
00:29:09.880 People were not,
00:29:10.880 stop talking about it.
00:29:12.000 Mark Mitchell of Rasmussen Reports
00:29:13.540 polled on it every single day
00:29:15.040 and the people wanted answers
00:29:16.340 and it,
00:29:17.020 I think it got us
00:29:17.840 into the situation now
00:29:18.980 where we may get in some light,
00:29:20.980 a little bit more light shed
00:29:22.200 on what happened there.
00:29:23.620 I'm not talking about
00:29:24.260 the actual situation,
00:29:25.200 but I'm talking about
00:29:27.200 the instance that people
00:29:28.360 want you to give them something.
00:29:30.200 The Epstein stuff is,
00:29:32.260 I'm sorry,
00:29:33.420 the Epstein stuff is nothing.
00:29:34.980 The important thing
00:29:35.820 is Russiagate.
00:29:36.960 No,
00:29:37.480 and I agree with that.
00:29:38.280 No,
00:29:38.500 because it's very distressing
00:29:39.420 to see people on,
00:29:40.480 when the New York Times,
00:29:44.240 the Wall Street Journal,
00:29:45.320 Washington Post,
00:29:46.160 CNN and NBC
00:29:47.200 are all leading
00:29:48.220 with stuff on Trump and Epstein,
00:29:50.460 you know we're in a bad place,
00:29:52.240 right?
00:29:52.620 We're in a bad place
00:29:54.040 with the Epstein stuff
00:29:55.120 and the people
00:29:55.880 who've been pushing it
00:29:56.740 have been,
00:29:57.380 the people on our side
00:29:58.320 who've been pushing this non-stop,
00:30:00.360 now we see where we are,
00:30:02.120 right?
00:30:02.700 The important thing,
00:30:04.040 the important thing
00:30:04.660 that we need clarity on
00:30:05.840 when we're talking about
00:30:06.740 weaponization of the federal government,
00:30:08.780 that cuts,
00:30:09.420 that Russiagate
00:30:10.380 cuts right to the heart of that.
00:30:12.200 That's where that started
00:30:13.100 in 2016.
00:30:14.360 We can talk about Epstein
00:30:15.560 in some other time.
00:30:16.320 No,
00:30:16.720 I wasn't even talking about Epstein.
00:30:17.960 I'm happy to walk
00:30:19.420 your great audience through it
00:30:20.740 and explain how many holes
00:30:22.460 there are in that story
00:30:23.600 and why this is,
00:30:25.060 you know,
00:30:25.240 and why it's very unfortunate
00:30:26.580 that this was revived once again.
00:30:28.600 The big story is Russiagate.
00:30:30.340 I'm not talking about
00:30:31.360 the story per se.
00:30:32.120 I'm talking about
00:30:32.740 people's appetite
00:30:33.660 for justice
00:30:34.760 and that's what it was.
00:30:36.500 We saw what people did
00:30:37.880 regardless of what
00:30:38.960 the situation was.
00:30:39.840 I said Epstein
00:30:40.360 because that's the latest one
00:30:41.440 that was brought up.
00:30:42.520 If this investigation
00:30:44.120 heeds no arrests of people,
00:30:45.600 I think the American people
00:30:47.700 aren't going to stand for it
00:30:48.880 because we've been promised
00:30:50.360 so much from Donald Trump.
00:30:51.960 We've been promised
00:30:52.420 so much from investigations
00:30:53.620 and we've literally
00:30:54.800 got nothing out of it.
00:30:56.500 So that's the way I see it.
00:30:58.920 Do you see it similarly?
00:31:00.700 Yes,
00:31:00.940 I said there's reason
00:31:01.820 for optimism now.
00:31:03.040 I believe that there
00:31:03.720 is an investigation.
00:31:05.220 I believe that they will come.
00:31:06.800 I believe that there
00:31:07.680 will be charges.
00:31:08.840 Will there be convictions?
00:31:09.960 I mean,
00:31:10.160 we'll have to see
00:31:10.880 where the,
00:31:12.060 you know,
00:31:12.360 if there are cases
00:31:13.980 where these cases are tried.
00:31:15.380 Again,
00:31:15.760 if it's a conspiracy
00:31:16.560 and it goes from 2016
00:31:17.820 to 2024,
00:31:19.660 it appears to include
00:31:21.060 non-blue jurisdictions,
00:31:23.240 right?
00:31:23.460 We know that the DOJ
00:31:24.740 is not going to win
00:31:25.720 convictions of John Brennan
00:31:27.900 or James Comey
00:31:29.220 in a Washington, D.C. courtroom.
00:31:30.980 But if these cases
00:31:32.240 are tried elsewhere,
00:31:33.060 then that's something else.
00:31:34.280 So again,
00:31:35.300 I really hope people
00:31:36.920 will be optimistic
00:31:37.700 about this.
00:31:38.880 But we also know
00:31:40.860 that juries are human
00:31:42.840 and, you know,
00:31:44.700 we're leaning
00:31:46.260 a little too far
00:31:47.140 out ahead here,
00:31:47.980 even assuming that cases,
00:31:49.660 you know,
00:31:50.000 that cases will be brought.
00:31:53.080 But again,
00:31:53.900 it's an imperfect system
00:31:58.220 as everything made
00:31:59.220 by human beings
00:31:59.980 is imperfect.
00:32:01.380 Last question.
00:32:03.280 Do you think
00:32:03.940 this investigation
00:32:04.500 leads into something
00:32:06.440 Donald Trump
00:32:06.960 has also promised
00:32:07.680 to figure out
00:32:08.220 what happened in 2020?
00:32:09.140 I mean,
00:32:11.080 there's so many questions
00:32:11.960 left unanswered.
00:32:13.360 People were fired
00:32:13.960 from their jobs
00:32:14.620 because of it.
00:32:15.320 I think people
00:32:16.220 deserve answers.
00:32:17.460 Well, and so first,
00:32:18.120 people are,
00:32:18.580 you know,
00:32:18.980 again,
00:32:19.540 I think that Solomon
00:32:21.360 has reported this,
00:32:22.440 that people are talking
00:32:23.100 about a conspiracy case
00:32:24.280 and it's not just
00:32:25.440 about Russiagate.
00:32:26.440 It goes from basically
00:32:27.520 2016 to 2024.
00:32:29.740 And that would include,
00:32:31.120 you know,
00:32:31.340 that would include
00:32:31.940 the 2020 elections,
00:32:33.240 presumably.
00:32:34.400 You know,
00:32:34.800 and if we look,
00:32:35.440 I mean,
00:32:35.600 this is what I report
00:32:36.320 in my most recent book,
00:32:37.500 Disappearing the President,
00:32:38.480 Barack Obama
00:32:39.780 played an enormous role
00:32:41.380 in pushing COVID
00:32:45.020 and pushing COVID lockdowns
00:32:47.440 and breaking Trump's economy
00:32:49.300 than in the irregular voting,
00:32:54.060 the irregular voting procedures
00:32:55.940 that were pushed in 2020.
00:32:58.180 So Obama has a huge role
00:33:00.120 in that as well.
00:33:01.500 And so, you know,
00:33:02.600 I hope people
00:33:03.400 are re-disappearing
00:33:04.260 the president,
00:33:04.780 but we have to understand
00:33:05.880 when we're talking
00:33:06.420 about Barack Obama's role,
00:33:07.800 it's not just about
00:33:09.240 what he did in 2016
00:33:10.640 and 2017
00:33:11.480 to push Russiagate
00:33:14.200 and to hobble
00:33:15.200 Trump's presidency.
00:33:16.520 It's what he did
00:33:17.360 in 2020 as well.
00:33:19.180 You know,
00:33:19.440 the different things
00:33:20.780 he participated in
00:33:22.080 at that point.
00:33:23.860 And I think we're
00:33:24.200 at a really interesting point
00:33:25.180 because based on
00:33:26.140 Hunter Biden's
00:33:26.880 most recent interview,
00:33:28.000 if you can imagine
00:33:28.520 Hunter Biden's
00:33:28.980 new interviews,
00:33:29.940 he does not like
00:33:31.040 Barack Obama.
00:33:31.760 And I think Joe Biden's
00:33:33.380 probably had enough
00:33:34.060 of him too.
00:33:34.480 So whatever we got
00:33:35.960 from it all, Lee,
00:33:36.880 you're going to have
00:33:37.700 to come back
00:33:38.280 and keep us updated.
00:33:39.840 I look forward to it.
00:33:41.200 The latest book
00:33:41.840 is Disappearing the President,
00:33:43.340 available on Amazon, right?
00:33:45.060 That's right.
00:33:45.720 Thank you, John.
00:33:46.720 Lee, come back soon.
00:33:47.820 Look forward to it.
00:33:49.040 Thanks, everybody,
00:33:49.620 for being with us today.
00:33:50.340 We hope to see you
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00:33:53.820 and the American way
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00:33:59.260 Until then,
00:33:59.660 may God bless you,
00:34:00.820 may God bless America,
00:34:01.660 and may God bless
00:34:02.180 the great blue dogs.
00:34:03.220 Have a great night, everybody.
00:34:04.080 Have a great night, everybody.