The Great America Show - March 10, 2024


The Great America Sunday Show： March 10th, 2024


Episode Stats

Length

25 minutes

Words per Minute

161.2985

Word Count

4,033

Sentence Count

394

Misogynist Sentences

4


Summary

Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani joins host Lou Dobbs on the Great America Sunday Show to discuss the scandal surrounding former Florida Gov. Rick DeSantis and his affair with Florida Rep. Rick Scott's mistress, Fannie Mae Willis.


Transcript

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00:00:33.860 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs. Welcome to the Great America Sunday Show. Thanks for being with us.
00:00:39.380 Our guest today is former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani.
00:00:43.980 He's also the host of the hit news show, America's Mayor Live.
00:00:48.620 Rudy, great to have you with us. Rudy, great to have you with us.
00:00:52.720 Great to be with you.
00:00:53.420 Well, thank you for being here. Great to see you.
00:00:55.780 Let's start with Fannie Willis. Let's keep it simple.
00:01:00.460 Sure. I know Fannie well. She wants to put me in jail for the rest of my life.
00:01:06.040 She has famously said a few weeks ago that this isn't a trial about her.
00:01:12.620 However, she's not on trial, but the defendants, including the President of the United States, are.
00:01:21.080 We're watching her destruct before our very eyes.
00:01:23.620 Yeah, yeah, yeah. The only crime down there is her and a lover.
00:01:27.040 I mean, the reality is people keep missing something she said in the middle of her testimony.
00:01:32.460 She said that she got the cash from her campaign fund and kept it at home.
00:01:38.520 I checked the statutes of the state. That's a crime.
00:01:44.680 Immediately, they should put her under investigation.
00:01:47.720 Basically, she stole campaign funds.
00:01:50.900 Go back, listen to it. You'll hear her say just nonchalantly, well, yeah, I always kept cash at home.
00:01:56.320 I took a lot of cash from my first campaign and I kept it at home.
00:02:00.040 It's a remarkable moment.
00:02:02.060 We're in crooked Fulton County, which I tried when we were litigating the case there.
00:02:07.780 It would explain the place as crooked as hell.
00:02:10.500 They don't even react to something that honest people would react to.
00:02:15.400 If that happened in an honest place, people would say, she took money from a campaign fund.
00:02:19.760 Meanwhile, he got ruined.
00:02:22.020 Bradley.
00:02:22.460 My goodness, I mean, every message is ridiculous.
00:02:27.440 He was begging that lady to testify.
00:02:29.340 Nathan Wade's divorce attorney suddenly is looking like he is a co-conspirator in the lowest denominator possible of public graph.
00:02:43.980 I'd really like to know, though, what went on with the meetings in the White House.
00:02:47.420 Because what you're talking about there with DeSantis and that whole thing,
00:02:50.120 the reason this case has got to be dismissed on all of them, this was orchestrated right out of the White House.
00:02:55.740 And what they were orchestrating was scheduling.
00:02:58.640 Remember, this was pretty much the fourth case.
00:03:01.260 So they were orchestrating it.
00:03:02.600 We've got to bring it down.
00:03:03.900 We've got to bring it down quickly so we can get it in.
00:03:06.760 Remember her first indictment.
00:03:09.460 She didn't get the grand jury to vote on it.
00:03:11.700 A little error.
00:03:13.020 Right.
00:03:13.280 She files it.
00:03:14.900 The grand jury hasn't voted.
00:03:16.600 She has to bring it back.
00:03:17.760 They vote again.
00:03:18.800 And it's the same indictment.
00:03:20.600 So the grand jury added nothing to it.
00:03:22.340 Right.
00:03:22.940 And it was an absolute rush job.
00:03:26.180 So that must have come out of the meetings that lover boy had in the White House.
00:03:30.720 Because they wanted one more case.
00:03:34.380 I don't know why they put so many in one year.
00:03:36.940 In a way, if they went with one good case, they might have a chance of getting it tried.
00:03:41.540 But by putting four in one year,
00:03:43.560 I've never heard of anyone tried four times in one year.
00:03:46.400 Ever.
00:03:47.840 And we were watching.
00:03:49.140 Anywhere.
00:03:49.980 We're watching exactly that.
00:03:51.740 And there's so many questions.
00:03:52.860 I want to come back to that question.
00:03:54.780 But I also want to point out to the audience that this, as Rudy says,
00:03:59.500 I mean, this is not the only case in which we have seen this prosecutor, if you will,
00:04:06.880 from the White House injected into a local DA.
00:04:10.260 The same thing happening with Alvin Bragg in New York City.
00:04:15.000 The same thing.
00:04:16.260 Bragg had actually concluded there was no case.
00:04:19.760 And, you know, he's not much of a lawyer or person.
00:04:25.580 And they just squeezed his arm.
00:04:28.840 And he went with a case where the legislature had to change the statute of limitations
00:04:33.620 just so they could go get Trump for something nobody else has been prosecuted for.
00:04:39.020 In fact, most of these cases, if not all of them,
00:04:41.220 are things that nobody else has ever been prosecuted for.
00:04:43.720 And we used to have a rule that if you're going to take on a major public figure
00:04:49.740 because of credibility of the system, you have to have a good case.
00:04:54.220 It couldn't be one of these Jack Smith, you know, make it up
00:04:56.940 and they get reversed by the Supreme Court, nine, nothing.
00:04:59.680 And why does Garland select Jack Smith?
00:05:01.940 He's got a big group of lawyers.
00:05:03.220 And here's the guy with the worst record in the Justice Department.
00:05:06.420 Reversed twice for unethical behavior.
00:05:09.920 You only select him because he wanted an unethical case.
00:05:12.480 And right now, the Supreme Court has taken up immunity for this president.
00:05:17.420 I hope they remember Smith.
00:05:19.100 I hope they do, too.
00:05:20.100 And I think they do.
00:05:21.680 As a layman, let me say to you.
00:05:23.420 They're human beings.
00:05:24.200 They've got to remember how he screwed the governor of Virginia.
00:05:28.860 Exactly.
00:05:29.260 And they've got to remember, too, that this man has been viciously and with great banality
00:05:35.540 going after a president of the United States on the most novel of pretenses.
00:05:42.480 Whether it be the raid on Mar-a-Lago, whether it be the nonsense that go to Judge Ingeron,
00:05:51.320 just step over there for just a minute, $354 million in fine, ladies and gentlemen.
00:05:56.860 Are you kidding me?
00:05:58.300 This is, this is outer, that's a Marxist psychopath as a judge.
00:06:04.220 I hope that the president's attorneys aren't afraid to argue and remind the court, you know,
00:06:09.120 he's actually trying to do what he did twice before, Your Honors.
00:06:12.880 He's trying to get you to rush this case.
00:06:15.920 He'll get a verdict out of D.C. because you don't get a fair trial in D.C.
00:06:19.480 And it'll get reversed a year from now.
00:06:21.600 Meanwhile, the American people will be deprived of their ability to make a choice.
00:06:26.700 Let me ask you, do you think that the Supreme Court will, first of all, hold, uphold immunity for this president?
00:06:34.940 Because that could undercut everything that's happened to this point.
00:06:39.480 And also protect it.
00:06:40.960 I don't think they'll give him the immunity that his lawyers are arguing for.
00:06:44.800 And I'm not sure why they don't qualify it a little bit.
00:06:48.960 He doesn't need immunity to commit murder.
00:06:50.720 He needs immunity to be able to carry out what you can conclude are official acts without being prosecuted.
00:06:58.480 It's not official we'll murder somebody.
00:07:00.900 You can sort of take that out of the category.
00:07:03.540 But it is official to check on the regularity of an election.
00:07:07.720 In fact, the Constitution says the president has to faithfully execute the laws.
00:07:11.980 I know because I was his lawyer at the time.
00:07:14.620 He had well over a thousand complaints of voter fraud.
00:07:19.680 He didn't make them up.
00:07:21.140 People brought them to him.
00:07:23.780 I didn't make them up.
00:07:25.220 They brought them to me.
00:07:26.380 I mean, at one point we had so many coming in, we couldn't keep track of them.
00:07:30.800 And I've had people tell me, you know, they changed my vote.
00:07:35.420 They changed the machine.
00:07:36.340 They did this.
00:07:36.880 They did that.
00:07:37.740 So, look, as a lawyer, you put witnesses on.
00:07:41.920 You take the evidence for your client.
00:07:44.200 And there was plenty of it.
00:07:45.680 So he had every right to pursue it.
00:07:47.460 And they're turning it into a crime.
00:07:48.960 I mean, that's so dangerous.
00:07:50.420 And they tried to turn it into a crime.
00:07:52.500 And I think that's going to backfire.
00:07:54.740 And that's the issue, the banality of all of this persecution of the president.
00:07:59.940 We're now in the ninth year of the political persecution of Donald Trump and his family.
00:08:05.840 And as we're wrapping up here, I'd just like to get your sense as to what you think will be the disposition by the Supreme Court.
00:08:16.220 Because we've got Jack Smith trying to bring a new trial date in July.
00:08:20.360 We've got him going after Trump just rabidly, without reference to law, Alvin Bragg, all of this.
00:08:28.760 If there's ever been a case built, it's been this case built by the Marxist Dems in this country in the political persecution of Donald Trump.
00:08:38.280 This Supreme Court has to understand the chief executive of this nation has to have extensive immunity.
00:08:46.120 So I think they're going to fashion a limited immunity, but we call it limited immunity.
00:08:52.180 And they're going to send it back to the court to hold a hearing on whether he fits into that limited immunity category.
00:08:57.900 The limited immunity category is, are you actually in good faith exercising your responsibility as president?
00:09:04.320 Or have you gone beyond that and you are secretly having a personal agenda?
00:09:12.300 And for that, you have the factual hearing.
00:09:14.680 So it puts the case off, which I also think ultimately is the wisdom here to put this case off until after the election.
00:09:23.320 And I think they see that.
00:09:24.480 I think they should get rid of every case.
00:09:26.300 I think every case is pure nonsense.
00:09:28.620 I think the Supreme Court understands that.
00:09:31.220 They have they've been my gosh, they've been intimidated every which way from Sunday by the Marxist left.
00:09:37.240 They're watching what is happening to Donald Trump.
00:09:39.980 They know that every president deserves that immunity.
00:09:42.400 I mean, prosecutors and and legislators.
00:09:48.160 I think it would be pretty easy to make a finding that this was all done purely to interfere with the election.
00:09:56.320 And destroy because because the positive, the legitimacy of trying to try a man four times in one year and claiming giving him due process.
00:10:04.140 If I had any client who's tried four times in one year, the judges would throw the cases out.
00:10:09.240 They'd say you can't possibly prepare for four trials in one year.
00:10:12.400 You're making it impossible for the man to prepare his defense.
00:10:14.820 Absolutely. And you have made it very easy to understand much of what's going on in the arcane world of the judicial system.
00:10:24.060 It's such a strange world. I think you and I react to it the same way.
00:10:27.380 But everything we can do to clear it up, we have to try.
00:10:29.820 Well, you've done a wonderful job.
00:10:31.280 You do a great job.
00:10:32.140 Wow.
00:10:32.820 Always.
00:10:33.500 Thanks so much for being here.
00:10:34.320 Great to see you.
00:10:35.780 Thank you.
00:10:36.480 Coming up next, we'll be joined by an old friend of mine, Bill O'Reilly.
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00:12:21.760 Welcome back.
00:12:22.880 I told you that we had a special guest today and here he is, Bill O'Reilly, an old friend, colleague and great American.
00:12:32.140 Great to have you here.
00:12:33.060 Thank you, Lou.
00:12:33.700 I appreciate the great American thing.
00:12:35.960 I don't know if I can rise up to that, but I try.
00:12:39.540 You've met the standard more times than you probably counted.
00:12:44.160 So it's great to have you here.
00:12:45.740 Thank you.
00:12:45.980 Let's let's talk about first the president.
00:12:47.780 I think it's the greatest comeback in political history, what he has done here as of Super Tuesday.
00:12:54.380 Your thoughts?
00:12:55.140 You're talking about Trump now.
00:12:56.220 I am.
00:12:56.840 OK.
00:12:57.360 Because Biden may make a comeback on Thursday with the State of the Union.
00:13:01.780 I don't think so, but possible.
00:13:05.140 Donald Trump is a unique character.
00:13:07.780 I just completed my next book called Confronting the Presidents.
00:13:12.840 No spin assessments from Washington to Biden.
00:13:15.820 And we write about every single president, all 45 of them, whether they helped or hurt the United States.
00:13:24.600 Trump is unique.
00:13:26.240 He has nothing in common with any of the other presidents, whereas the other 44 have similarities.
00:13:35.380 Right.
00:13:35.560 Not Trump.
00:13:36.180 So when you go outside the mole like he has and when you understand that you establish a base of power, which he has, that base of power stays unless you really screw up, unless you really go in the face of of your audience.
00:13:57.140 Right.
00:13:57.340 Like Fox did.
00:13:59.160 See, Fox got hurt because it went away from its core audience that started with it and veered into territories that the audience was discombobulated.
00:14:12.240 Trump never did that.
00:14:14.180 He stayed right in the MAGA zone.
00:14:16.600 So I don't know if it's a comeback so much as he is able to take advantage of a weak opponent.
00:14:24.540 And that's a big advantage for Trump.
00:14:27.600 Joe Biden is second worst president in the history of this country.
00:14:31.820 And he's taking advantage of that.
00:14:33.840 So that's what you're seeing.
00:14:34.820 You're seeing that he solidified his base, respects his base, the MAGA people.
00:14:39.380 And then he's exploiting the weakness of his competitor.
00:14:43.500 The reason I say it's the greatest comeback is that this man has been assailed for nine years now.
00:14:49.820 We're in the ninth year of the political persecution of Donald Trump.
00:14:53.820 The Marxist Dems and the Marxist Dems who run the Democrat Party have tried to destroy this man.
00:15:00.700 They have done everything in their power.
00:15:03.080 And at one point, at one point, I think the left really thought they were going to win this thing out.
00:15:08.220 But I think that has been dispelled.
00:15:10.780 What do you think?
00:15:11.600 Well, I think that it's terrible.
00:15:16.760 Particularly the cases in New York.
00:15:20.280 They're terrible.
00:15:22.200 It's an abuse of power to target one single American, whether he's a politician or not.
00:15:28.620 And use the power of the state to try to destroy the person.
00:15:32.900 And we all know, you know better than anybody because you're an economics guy,
00:15:36.120 that what he's allegedly done in the real estate business happens all the time.
00:15:42.820 And this is the only time it's ever been prosecuted.
00:15:46.240 I think that the fine and all that will get thrown out at the federal level.
00:15:50.280 I think you're going to see that.
00:15:51.740 The abuse of power is very disturbing, not just for Trump.
00:15:55.400 But if these people can target somebody like that, they can target you and me and everybody else.
00:15:59.720 The second thing is that the media enables all this.
00:16:05.080 It used to be that the media acted as kind of a restraint.
00:16:10.580 All right.
00:16:11.180 But now the media has allied itself with the Democratic Party.
00:16:16.900 It's one in the same.
00:16:19.160 And so that Trump stands almost by himself.
00:16:21.840 Now, he's got the MAGA people, but he doesn't have any media to speak of.
00:16:27.740 He's got right wing talk radio, a few people on Fox, not that many anymore.
00:16:33.980 And then Newsmax.
00:16:35.700 But Newsmax doesn't reach that many people.
00:16:38.920 So it's disturbing that the United States of America could come to this kind of a partisan play
00:16:46.800 when the founders gave the press special power to stop just this thing.
00:16:54.740 But they're on board with it.
00:16:56.940 What we're watching now is the checks and balances of this great constitutional republic are not working.
00:17:04.200 There is no countervailing force within our government, whereas there has always been in times previous
00:17:10.320 when challenged, when confronted with a threat from within or without.
00:17:15.940 We could rely upon the judiciary to be at least neutral.
00:17:21.120 We could rely upon the prosecutors of the Department of Justice not to be corrupt.
00:17:26.540 And we could rely on presidents to certainly fulfill their duties under the Constitution,
00:17:33.300 whether it is securing the border, whether it is defending this nation against invasions of illegal aliens,
00:17:41.360 whatever it may be.
00:17:43.000 We do not have that rationality.
00:17:45.480 We do not have that that clear set of principles guiding us right now,
00:17:50.960 because this president has simply thrown them out.
00:17:55.140 And we have really nowhere to go but to Donald Trump, in my opinion.
00:18:00.640 A lot of people believe what you believe, that if you compare Trump's four years just policy-wise to Biden,
00:18:11.400 there's no comparison.
00:18:12.780 I mean, the welfare of the country was much higher under Trump than it is under Biden.
00:18:17.580 Absolutely.
00:18:18.060 I mean, and every poll shows that, every single poll.
00:18:21.180 The problem with Donald Trump is that he's undisciplined
00:18:23.740 and that he diverts away from his policy success into the personal realm.
00:18:29.020 He doesn't have to do that anymore.
00:18:31.660 You don't have to do that.
00:18:33.400 You don't have to attack Nikki Haley's husband.
00:18:36.100 That's not necessary.
00:18:38.140 So if he would stop that, and we've seen a little moderation in the last couple of weeks
00:18:43.500 with the Super Tuesday speech, he didn't hammer anybody.
00:18:49.160 If he stays in the statesman realm, he will win.
00:18:52.860 I think you're right.
00:18:55.220 And I think also what we're watching are the globalist elites, the business community,
00:19:01.180 Wall Street, moving toward him right now.
00:19:03.780 He hasn't moved.
00:19:05.560 His policies haven't changed, as you established right from the beginning of this discussion.
00:19:12.500 They're moving toward him.
00:19:14.200 They have seen the failed policies of the Biden administration,
00:19:17.860 if you can really call them policies.
00:19:19.320 And you also know that this president was the most effective president we had had in modern history.
00:19:26.620 And so there's a proved record.
00:19:29.360 There is an established America first agenda and make America great again as the base
00:19:36.880 and as the direction we're headed.
00:19:39.220 So I think that it's interesting to see Wall Street suddenly backpedaling on ESG.
00:19:45.720 They're starting to backpedal on DEI, diversity and equity and inclusion.
00:19:53.480 And that, to me, is really important because this president, I know a lot of the elites want him to come to them.
00:20:00.320 But if he goes to them, that defeats his entire purpose.
00:20:04.780 He doesn't need to do that.
00:20:05.960 Wall Street just wants to make money.
00:20:07.320 They don't care.
00:20:08.460 They couldn't care about DEI, MSN, BPC.
00:20:11.620 They just want to make money.
00:20:12.900 And it's dawned on these money people that Trump, in the way that he crafted the economy,
00:20:22.280 lower interference from the federal government, number one.
00:20:26.420 Remember, Biden's regulations, and people don't even know what they are.
00:20:30.220 But as soon as he got in, he started to regulate the fossil fuel industry, which lighted up inflation.
00:20:35.640 As soon as he got in, slapped all these regulations on the fuel industry.
00:20:41.260 And the fuel industry goes, holy, you know what?
00:20:43.960 We better raise our prices now because we're going to have to be paying all this stuff down the road.
00:20:48.940 That's what ignited inflation.
00:20:51.360 And then Biden gets out there and goes, oh, we're bringing inflation down.
00:20:54.960 Well, who started it?
00:20:56.980 You.
00:20:58.060 OK?
00:20:58.420 And he's not really bringing inflation down.
00:21:00.880 That's a number.
00:21:02.300 The necessities of life, food, fuel, insurance premiums, they're as high as they've ever been.
00:21:09.800 They're not coming down.
00:21:11.520 And that's, again, why Biden's getting hammered in the polls, because people know what they're paying in the grocery store.
00:21:17.200 So he can say whatever he wants to say.
00:21:18.960 But the way Trump governed was, it was deal after deal after deal after deal after deal.
00:21:24.960 And most of the deals worked out, not only in the economy, but also overseas.
00:21:31.280 OK?
00:21:31.860 Which is just now a calamity everywhere.
00:21:34.660 Because Biden doesn't have a cohesive foreign policy.
00:21:38.480 To say the least.
00:21:39.840 He knew full well.
00:21:41.880 His intelligence agencies knew full well.
00:21:44.040 When Vladimir Putin assembled 200,000 troops on the eastern border of Ukraine, that Vladimir Putin would be invading.
00:21:53.060 He didn't act.
00:21:54.820 He knew full well a year in that they could negotiate a peace.
00:21:59.760 He refused.
00:22:00.860 He has so many calamities that are on his, that are his burden.
00:22:06.160 I don't think it's possible for this man to achieve anything approaching a favorable rating.
00:22:11.520 And I don't believe that the American people will tolerate this, again, from the Marxist policy, Marxist policies that have, first of all, put an illegitimate president in the Oval Office.
00:22:27.260 And secondly, have put an impaired, cognitively impaired, and compromised president there.
00:22:36.720 I don't think the American people are going to forget that.
00:22:38.760 Do you?
00:22:38.960 Well, Trump should be up by 20 points in the polls.
00:22:43.240 He's up by five.
00:22:44.800 And that's because of Trump.
00:22:47.280 It's because of his demeanor.
00:22:49.020 If he moderates his demeanor, as we were just talking about, you will see a rise.
00:22:54.440 There is no one that I know, and I know a lot of liberal people.
00:22:59.080 I was afraid of that.
00:23:00.260 I really want Joe Biden to be reelected.
00:23:03.640 Do you know anybody?
00:23:05.780 Nobody.
00:23:06.220 Just a hardcore progressive left because Biden does what they want.
00:23:13.600 They're the ones that want the open border.
00:23:15.500 OK, but there's no regular folks going, we've got to have four more years of Joe.
00:23:21.560 There's no enthusiasm at all.
00:23:23.540 It's all we don't.
00:23:25.560 He's better than Trump.
00:23:27.200 That's what Biden's got going for him.
00:23:29.360 And that's what he'll campaign on.
00:23:31.120 Yeah, I may be a screw up, but he's worse.
00:23:34.500 And if that's your campaign, you really have nothing.
00:23:38.560 Exactly.
00:23:39.100 And you and I agree on that entirely because this president has offered the American people
00:23:44.920 nothing.
00:23:45.260 He has.
00:23:46.020 No, it's a disaster.
00:23:47.400 It's a second worst next to James Buchanan.
00:23:50.360 And I know you're familiar with James.
00:23:52.480 Personal friend.
00:23:52.720 I think you guys were roommates in college.
00:23:55.020 That's right.
00:23:55.340 You were in James Buchanan.
00:23:56.480 That's right.
00:23:56.900 But he was the worst.
00:23:58.740 Wait till you read my book, this guy.
00:24:01.640 But Biden's second.
00:24:03.240 He's worse than Herbert Hoover and Warren Hardy and all of these screw ups.
00:24:07.020 And when I said that on News Nation the other night, and I thought that the liberal hosts
00:24:14.700 on there, and it's evenly divided.
00:24:17.280 News Nation does a good job.
00:24:19.280 I thought they were going to have a heart attack when I see he's the second worst president.
00:24:22.720 But he is.
00:24:23.440 Don't be a disruptor, Bill.
00:24:25.060 Don't be a disruptor.
00:24:26.780 I would never be a disruptor.
00:24:28.580 Me?
00:24:29.240 Come on.
00:24:30.100 Bill O'Reilly, we appreciate you being with us.
00:24:32.600 Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts and your perspective and your wisdom.
00:24:35.580 And always good to see you, my friend.
00:24:38.480 Thanks for having me on.
00:24:39.660 You bet.
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