The Great America Show - The Great America Sunday Show： March 16, 2025

00:00:00.000 But it sounds like you're saying, trust us.

00:00:06.180 And are you worried that at some point, Americans are going to feel like there's a bunch of

00:00:11.300 billionaires in Washington who are playing Russian roulette with our retirement?

00:00:16.720 $2 trillion deficits don't bother you at all.

00:00:22.280 How could you ask me while we're running a $2 trillion deficit and not care?

00:00:30.240 You're destroying the people who have run this country before are destroying the future

00:00:36.480 for my children and my children's children.

00:00:39.120 I can't have a 50, 75.

00:00:41.200 We have a $36 trillion deficit.

00:00:44.660 And we used to run deficits of $400 billion.

00:00:47.280 Now $2 trillion.

00:00:48.240 Everybody's like, who cares?

00:00:50.320 I tell you what, who cares?

00:00:51.280 Donald Trump cares.

00:00:52.960 And when we balance the budget, you know what that means?

00:00:55.340 That means our deficits stop.

00:00:57.900 Interest rates come smashing down.

00:00:59.940 His goal is to have external revenue.

00:01:03.280 You know, the way I think about it, we all are so used to paying taxes.

00:01:07.540 We're so used to it.

00:01:08.760 We have like Stockholm syndrome.

00:01:10.920 You know, don't stop the internal revenue service.

00:01:13.240 God forbid.

00:01:14.460 How about this?

00:01:15.820 The rest of the world leans on our economy, breathes off our economy.

00:01:20.720 Not only is our economy $29 trillion GDP, but we consume $20 trillion a year.

00:01:28.940 We are the buyer of everybody's stuff.

00:01:32.400 We buy everybody's stuff.

00:01:34.340 So who is more important?

00:01:36.400 The people who sell stuff or the people who buy stuff?

00:01:39.760 So we are the buyer of everybody's commodities, products, goods and services.

00:01:46.860 Everything comes from us, right?

00:01:49.420 Let them pay a membership fee.

00:01:53.680 We all understand that model.

00:01:55.820 Let them pay.

00:01:56.720 How about we, you and I, and every single person we know pay less?

00:02:01.680 How about no tax on tips?

00:02:03.060 How about no tax on overtime?

00:02:04.480 How about no social security?

00:02:06.040 How about all those things?

00:02:07.900 These are the kind of thoughts that will change America.

00:02:11.520 I know what his goal is.

00:02:13.260 No tax for anybody who makes less than $150,000 a year.

00:02:17.860 That's his goal.

00:02:19.100 So that's what I'm working for.

00:02:20.940 Hello, everybody.

00:02:21.620 Welcome to The Great America Show.

00:02:22.820 It's great to have you with us.

00:02:24.460 Listen to Howard Lutnick there.

00:02:26.820 Say it straight with a straight face, honestly, how it's going to be under this Trump administration.

00:02:31.700 You heard there him conclude with President Trump ultimately wanting no tax on anyone making

00:02:36.420 under $150,000 a year.

00:02:38.560 Well, in 2023, statistics show that approximately 80% of households fall under that category.

00:02:44.620 So how great would that be for the American people to put more money in their pockets from

00:02:49.900 the federal government getting out of your lives, putting more money into the pockets

00:02:53.760 of the hardworking average American that breaks their back to make this country what it is,

00:02:58.880 whether it be our blue collar workers who fix our vehicles, our blue collar workers who

00:03:03.160 install and build skyscrapers and manage skyscrapers.

00:03:08.860 They build the foundation of everything this country is on.

00:03:11.460 Without blue collar workers, this country is absolutely nothing. 1.00

00:03:15.080 That's a guarantee.

00:03:16.020 So the Marxist Dems, they want to have a meltdown about where the economy is going right now.

00:03:21.440 And if you joined us yesterday for The Great America Show, we did a deep dive on where I

00:03:26.400 think the economy is going.

00:03:27.700 The day before yesterday, we spoke to a brilliant economist who says it's probably going to be

00:03:31.020 a bumpy road for a short time.

00:03:33.280 But in the end, it's all going to work the kinks out.

00:03:36.140 Donald Trump wants to bring jobs back to America.

00:03:38.300 He wants jobs back here.

00:03:39.500 He wants onshore jobs back to this country.

00:03:42.160 The truth of the matter is, folks, is we haven't had a trade surplus since 1975 in this country.

00:03:47.540 What does that mean?

00:03:48.580 It means since 1975, we brought in more imports than we've exported ourselves.

00:03:54.900 So in layman's terms, what that means is we're reliant on the rest of the world for everything

00:03:59.380 we buy, everything we get, and everything we do.

00:04:02.740 These iPhones, we don't make them here in America.

00:04:04.800 We don't do that.

00:04:06.020 They're made overseas.

00:04:06.840 Pretty much anything you do, this camera we're using, this computer we're using, all

00:04:10.620 that, the computer you're using to watch us right now, chances are it wasn't made in

00:04:14.960 America.

00:04:15.360 Maybe it was assembled in America, but not made in America.

00:04:17.700 So Donald Trump's long plan, long game plan is to onshore those jobs, bring as much back

00:04:23.040 to America as we possibly can, all at the same time cutting spending.

00:04:27.580 He wants to cut trillions of dollars out of the GDP, out of the deficit.

00:04:30.540 It's something that hasn't been done, which is why the markets are not favorably reacting

00:04:35.000 to it.

00:04:35.560 The markets like when we spend money.

00:04:36.980 They like when wasteful spending is happening throughout this country.

00:04:40.800 So of course, they're going to react adversely, and that's fine.

00:04:43.840 Wall Street's made enough money.

00:04:45.700 It's time for Main Street to make some money.

00:04:47.580 It's time for the blue collar, as I said, the hardworking average American who goes to 1.00

00:04:51.080 work every day, working 40 hours, 60 hours, some cases 80 hours a week with overtime to bring

00:04:57.160 home.

00:04:57.380 Bernie Sanders always wants to talk about fair share of taxes.

00:05:00.520 How about it's time that the average American brings home their fair share of wage and doesn't 0.99

00:05:04.840 have to give the government, in some cases, over 50% if you factor in a property tax if

00:05:09.720 you own a house?

00:05:10.720 How about that?

00:05:11.320 How about working for a living and not giving away the majority of your paycheck to a federal

00:05:15.720 government that wastes trillions of dollars a year, whether it be foreign aid for Ukraine,

00:05:21.020 whether it be USAID dumping our monies into NGOs like the Catholic Charities, the Red Cross

00:05:26.240 harboring illegals, helping illegals come through this country. 0.96

00:05:29.980 Think about that for a change, folks.

00:05:31.540 So the naysayers and the Democrats who are joining us here today, think about that.

00:05:35.640 Think about the fact of not giving away more than half of your paycheck and how nice it'll

00:05:40.240 be and how great it'll be for America.

00:05:42.420 We've also got some other good news, folks.

00:05:44.220 Rosie O'Donnell announcing yesterday that she's fled America.

00:05:48.540 Where'd she go?

00:05:49.620 She's actually living in Ireland now where she says it's safe for all citizens to live and

00:05:54.560 they have equal rights.

00:05:55.960 And we're not going to play you the video of Rosie O'Donnell that she put out.

00:05:59.000 I'll save you the 15 minutes that I wasted of my time earlier this morning watching her.

00:06:03.680 But she seems a lot happier there and good for her.

00:06:06.060 America's not for you, Rosie. 1.00

00:06:07.140 That's fine.

00:06:07.560 It's not for everybody.

00:06:08.960 They say if you can make it here, you can make it anywhere.

00:06:11.220 Apparently, you couldn't make it here.

00:06:13.440 So President Trump was with the prime minister of Ireland yesterday and he was actually asked

00:06:17.620 about allowing Rosie to live in his country.

00:06:19.460 Take a listen.

00:06:19.900 Ireland is known for very happy, fun-loving people, great attitude, many in this room

00:06:25.460 right now that I've met.

00:06:27.320 Why in the world did you let Rosie O'Donnell move to Ireland? 1.00

00:06:31.140 I think she's going to lower your happiness level. 0.99

00:06:32.920 That's true.

00:06:33.720 Thank you.

00:06:34.280 I like that question.

00:06:36.080 Do you know who she is?

00:06:41.120 Oh, man.

00:06:49.240 President Trump is totally brilliant when it comes to any sort of comedic response.

00:06:53.840 Rosie O'Donnell, not a mentally sane lady.

00:06:55.800 But you know what?

00:06:56.780 I have to give credit where credit is due.

00:06:58.380 In 2016, when Trump won, you had these Marxist Dems who said they were leaving the country

00:07:02.720 if he won.

00:07:04.940 So you know what?

00:07:05.640 Hats off to those folks who have left the country.

00:07:08.460 Ellen DeGeneres, another one, but I think she left for other reasons that we may soon

00:07:12.800 find out.

00:07:14.660 We'll leave it at that.

00:07:16.840 So hats off to Rosie.

00:07:18.000 Good for you.

00:07:18.500 You left the country.

00:07:19.160 You said you were going to do it.

00:07:20.160 Congratulations.

00:07:21.060 You're out of here.

00:07:22.080 Folks, our guest today is the great Roger Stone, host of The Stone Zone each and every

00:07:25.920 night, every weeknight, that is.

00:07:27.720 77 WABC, catch him on thestonezone.com.

00:07:30.560 He joins us each and every week for a brilliant discussion on the politic at large, what's going

00:07:36.500 on in this country and how we're going to make it great again.

00:07:40.180 Roger, as always, it's great to have you back on The Great America Show, our weekly

00:07:43.260 date here, our weekly lunch date or evening dinner date.

00:07:47.180 Thanks for joining us.

00:07:48.220 I want to start with first investigative journalist Roger Stone, adding some new things to the

00:07:53.400 resume.

00:07:54.380 Roger Stone forcing the Capitol Hill police chief into what he calls his retirement.

00:08:00.440 Tell us what's going on there, Roger.

00:08:02.360 Sure, John.

00:08:03.400 Great to be back with you.

00:08:04.480 Yesterday on my 77 WABC radio show, The Stone Zone, I broke the news that a man was actually

00:08:13.740 arrested with a gun inside the Capitol in the very room where the president was prior to

00:08:21.320 the State of the Union address.

00:08:24.240 And that on a previous occasion, a man, a civilian, was also arrested and apprehended with a gun

00:08:30.600 gun inside the Capitol the day that President Trump was sworn in in the Capitol Rotunda.

00:08:38.860 Once this news hit the wires, the police chief, Thomas Mayard, I believe his name is, resigned,

00:08:46.300 saying that he was retiring.

00:08:47.860 Now, I also disclosed that just prior to his becoming Capitol Hill police chief, he was a lobbyist

00:08:56.120 and he got a $2.3 million grant from the Biden administration for one of his clients, L3.

00:09:04.300 So this is a guy who's kind of been in charge of the cover-up operation regarding January 6th.

00:09:12.040 And in this case, within hours of our breaking that news, he was out of there.

00:09:18.140 The last police chief, or maybe second to last because they've had acting, but Chief Stephen Sund,

00:09:23.340 I saw him not too long ago, a few weeks ago.

00:09:25.020 I've spoken to him a few times since January 6th.

00:09:27.380 And they did that man so royally dirty.

00:09:30.080 You can go look at the text messages, the messages he sent up and down the chain of command,

00:09:35.020 begging for people to come, begging for the Capitol Police to bring in the National Guard on January 6th.

00:09:39.480 They got rid of him right away, no questions asked, and they completely tried to do him dirty.

00:09:44.320 How does something like this happen?

00:09:45.780 Two failed assassination attempts on President Trump.

00:09:47.980 He's now the president-elect at this point, the day of the swearing-in.

00:09:51.460 He's then the president when he goes to the State of the Union, or whatever we want to call it.

00:09:56.340 How does a breach in security like this happen?

00:09:58.780 And who is this man who was found with the gun?

00:10:02.200 We're still obviously digging into that.

00:10:04.860 What's an even greater story is why is this nowhere in the mainstream media?

00:10:08.440 Why does it fall to Roger Stone and John Fawcett to let people know?

00:10:14.120 This is my number one concern.

00:10:16.320 Donald Trump is such an existential threat to the established order.

00:10:21.400 And he is cutting, first of all, at the heart of their money sources.

00:10:26.260 Elon Musk is not uncovering millions or billions of dollars.

00:10:30.900 He's uncovering trillions of dollars of waste, fraud, and corruption.

00:10:38.500 Just yesterday, I read about a $375 billion slush fund that was made available to John Podesta.

00:10:48.300 You remember him?

00:10:49.080 Yeah, of course.

00:10:49.600 Hillary's campaign manager then joined the Biden White House staff as the, I guess, the environmental czar. 0.90

00:10:56.860 But essentially giving out money to environmental groups, some of them only a month old.

00:11:03.020 Some who had been incorporated a month prior to their getting millions of dollars.

00:11:07.500 We both know that money was used in the election to try to fight President Donald Trump.

00:11:12.980 So, Musk is cutting right to the heart of the funding of all of these political activities.

00:11:21.060 Not to mention the fact that I still think we're going to find, ultimately, that some of that money that we sent to Ukraine,

00:11:29.880 maybe a lot of that money that we sent to Ukraine, made its way into the offshore bank accounts of some who are in public office today.

00:11:38.480 I don't want to say any names, Lindsey Graham.

00:11:42.100 I don't want to mention any individuals, Nancy Pelosi.

00:11:46.180 I don't want to call anybody out, Adam Schiff.

00:11:50.580 But as you see, Elon has intimated this.

00:11:54.560 Congressman Tim Burchett, who I think is a great MAGA congressman, a great champion of the taxpayers,

00:12:01.160 and a great strong supporter of the president, has also intimated this.

00:12:04.780 So, look, it remains to be seen.

00:12:07.460 But I think that he has got the two-party duopoly tied in knots.

00:12:14.560 I mean, they're apoplectic.

00:12:15.840 They're hysterical because he's under covering their corruption.

00:12:20.160 John, I ask you the question.

00:12:22.220 Who could be in favor of waste, fraud, and corruption?

00:12:25.540 Who would be opposed to exposing waste, fraud, and corruption?

00:12:29.800 The answer, I'm afraid, is only those who are involved in waste, fraud, and corruption.

00:12:34.780 Simple enough answer.

00:12:35.360 You know it's so scary, Rogers.

00:12:37.120 You just gave an example.

00:12:38.280 I was on a show earlier this morning, and I said the same exact thing.

00:12:41.880 I'm not going to name names.

00:12:42.820 And I said the exact name, Lindsey Graham.

00:12:44.760 That terrifies me that you and I have this same crazy thinking mindset.

00:12:49.080 Brilliant, I must say.

00:12:49.980 I think this is significant because Lindsey Graham is now, for the first time in his career, facing a true, viable challenge in the Republican primary in South Carolina.

00:13:00.800 A businessman named Mark Lynch has stepped forward.

00:13:04.020 He's put $5 million of his own money into his campaign to get it jump-started.

00:13:09.920 It's an uphill fight in South Carolina.

00:13:12.200 It wouldn't be an uphill fight if the primary was closed to Republicans only, but because it is an open primary in which anyone of any party, or no party at all, can vote in the Republican Party.

00:13:26.720 The fear is that liberals and Democrats and others who realize that the Democrat nominee has little chance to win in a general election will cross over into the Republican Party to try to save Lindsey Graham.

00:13:41.680 There will be a move in the legislature where Republicans do have power to try to close the primary, but it's not clear whether Governor Henry McMaster, one of President Trump's earliest and most loyal supporters, would sign such legislation.

00:13:59.220 Before we go, I want to go back to the doge thing, but before we go to that, you bring up such a good point.

00:14:03.160 The other day, Donald Trump taking to Twitter to go after Thomas Massey.

00:14:07.480 Whatever his beef is with Thomas Massey, Thomas Massey is a small fish in a big pond.

00:14:12.440 He's one of 435.

00:14:14.080 He doesn't control much.

00:14:15.320 You had mentioned Lindsey Graham.

00:14:17.020 Those are the people who are part of the problem.

00:14:19.080 I know your friend Susan Collins up there.

00:14:21.100 Another one, part of the problem, Lisa Murkowski. 1.00

00:14:23.900 Why does Donald Trump, and this is like one of the very few things, Roger, I take issue with him on.

00:14:29.280 There's like 0.01% of the things, and this is one of them.

00:14:32.620 Why does he back guys like Lindsey? 0.99

00:14:34.180 Why does he continue to put up with people like Murkowski or Susan Collins?

00:14:38.680 They're the real threat.

00:14:39.780 Thomas Massey out in Kentucky, a man who doesn't like CRs, is against government spending, whatever he is, never.

00:14:45.140 Okay, he's one of 435.

00:14:47.440 What about these senators who are actually the real problem?

00:14:51.860 Well, I don't think that the president is particularly close to Lisa Murkowski, and she's only there in Alaska because they have ranked choice voting,

00:14:59.940 which is this completely convoluted system in which the candidate who gets the most votes is not elected to the U.S. Senate.

00:15:06.840 It's really bizarre.

00:15:08.660 If we had an hour and 45 minutes, I'd explain it to you, but unfortunately we don't.

00:15:12.440 No, I get it.

00:15:13.880 Nor do I think he's particularly close to Susan Collins, although in Collins' defense, she voted for Robert Kennedy.

00:15:22.020 She voted for Tulsi Gabbard.

00:15:25.920 She voted in favor of Pam Bondi.

00:15:29.260 She voted in favor of Scott Besson.

00:15:31.420 Among the president's most important appointments, she supported them.

00:15:36.800 I have to assume with Lindsey Graham, this is a case of keeping your friends close and your enemies closer.

00:15:43.120 I have little doubt that if Lindsey Graham was no longer a U.S. senator, Donald Trump wouldn't return his phone calls.

00:15:48.780 It's probably true, but the problem, Roger, that I take such issue with that is that we can't continue to support people who only screw us 50 percent of the time.

00:15:57.340 And it's the same thing why Susan Collins got the pass last time, right, because she voted for Kavanaugh.

00:16:01.720 It was a political choice on her part because she knew she was committing political suicide.

00:16:05.780 But when a push comes to shove, when it comes time to major legislation, she's nowhere to be found.

00:16:11.480 What do you think?

00:16:13.640 Look, that is something that will have to be settled in Republican primaries.

00:16:18.020 But in all honesty, Susan Collins, who I like, by the way, as a person for a long time, her politics are not mine, obviously.

00:16:28.840 But you are not going to get somebody more conservative in Maine who can win statewide.

00:16:34.040 You're just not.

00:16:34.780 So you could defeat her in a primary, in which case you'll get an all out leftist Democrat who votes with us zero percent of the time. 0.97

00:16:42.260 I think it was Ronald Reagan who said, I'd rather have part of the loaf than none of the loaf.

00:16:47.920 It is a harsh reality about the way Maine, once one of the most Republican states in the country, 1936, Al Clinton only carried two states, Vermont and Maine, now a reliably blue state.

00:17:02.480 Yeah, it's true.

00:17:03.080 I just I'm just so annoyed at it and so tired of it.

00:17:06.120 I want to take a quick break here.

00:17:07.080 I want to come back.

00:17:07.620 I've got some news for you that you might find appalling about Doge and where Elon Musk, some of his latest uncoverings on where he just found three hundred and twelve million dollars.

00:17:17.020 You're not going to expect where I'm about to tell you.

00:17:19.600 We're coming right back with Roger Stone, host of the Stone Zone each and every night.

00:17:23.400 8 p.m. Stone Zone dot com.

00:17:24.880 If you're in the New York Tri-State or a few other markets, you catch him on 77 W.A.B.C. each and every night, 8 p.m.

00:17:31.160 We're coming right back with Roger.

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00:18:36.900 Folks, we're back with the great Roger Stone, our favorite weekly guest here for our weekly evening date.

00:18:41.960 Roger, you can catch him each and every night now on 77 WABC, StoneZone.com, 77 WABC.

00:18:49.580 As I said, each and every night, 7, I'm sorry, 8 Eastern time on your radio dial.

00:18:54.200 That's what you used to use back in the day, right, Roger?

00:18:55.700 Yeah, look, I love doing radio.

00:18:58.620 First of all, I have a face for radio.

00:19:00.780 But the great thing is 77 WABC is the most powerful AM radio signal in the country.

00:19:07.460 But no matter where you are in the country, you can listen live at WABCradio.com.

00:19:14.800 WABCradio.com.

00:19:16.260 That's the best place to go, 8 o'clock Eastern every night.

00:19:19.520 I got to say, it's honestly relaxing getting in no car sometimes listening to AM radio.

00:19:22.960 So, it's soothing.

00:19:24.700 So, I want to turn to what we were talking about before we went to break.

00:19:27.340 Doge, Elon Musk uncovering $312 million in loan payments.

00:19:31.960 You ready?

00:19:33.480 The SBA Small Business Association administration granted almost 6,000 loans totaling $312 billion

00:19:39.200 to individuals listed as 11 years old or younger during the COVID-19 pandemic or the China virus from 2020 to 2021.

00:19:47.540 Doge also found that the SBA also included almost 3,000 loans for $333 million to borrowers over 115 years old,

00:19:56.260 including one individual listed as 157 years old who received $36,000 in loans.

00:20:01.800 So, back to the question you asked me.

00:20:03.960 Who is not in favor of getting rid of this stuff?

00:20:08.280 Yeah, it's incredible. 0.94

00:20:09.380 I saw a video of Bernie Sanders the other day, and Sanders is saying, this is ridiculous.

00:20:15.780 Nobody who's 150 years old is getting Social Security checks and cashing them. 1.00

00:20:23.060 No shit, Sherlock. 0.97

00:20:25.200 The point here, of course, is that somebody is cashing those checks. 0.99

00:20:29.520 So, in other words, someone has used a fake Social Security number or used a false identity to collect this money.

00:20:37.860 That is corruption and waste.

00:20:42.300 But the senator doesn't seem to want to get it.

00:20:44.780 Now, Bernie and his wife skimmed millions of dollars off of his two presidential campaigns in media commissions.

00:20:53.960 That's not illegal, but it radically changed comrade Bernie's economic status.

00:21:00.540 You'll notice they used to attack billionaires and millionaires.

00:21:04.020 Now he only attacks billionaires.

00:21:05.820 That's because Bernie is a millionaire.

00:21:08.400 So, in other words, John, socialism for thee, but not for comrade Bernie. 1.00

00:21:13.620 Totally idiotic. 1.00

00:21:14.960 These Democrats have tried to ruin our country. 1.00

00:21:16.960 They successfully ruined our country.

00:21:18.540 I want to talk about the economy a little bit.

00:21:20.240 Now, neither are you or I are economists, but we're common sense people, and we do a little bit of reading.

00:21:25.720 The Democrats want to talk about the economy and that tariffs are ruining this economy.

00:21:30.240 The truth of the matter is, Roger, what's also taking effect on the stock market and the economy right now is the fact that Doge and Elon Musk and Scott Besson and Howard Lutnick want to cut a trillion dollars out of the GDP.

00:21:42.760 They want to cut a trillion dollars of spending.

00:21:44.700 That's massive, Roger, because for years they talked about Social Security and cutting Social Security and changing the retirement age and cutting Medicare and cutting Medicaid.

00:21:54.240 Well, I'm under the impression that there is so much government fraud, Roger, that's ripe inside the government right now that we may not even have to touch these entitlements if we can get to the bottom of how much fraud and abuse is going on in the government.

00:22:07.440 What's your thoughts?

00:22:08.060 Look, I agree with you. The president has been talking recently about balancing the federal budget.

00:22:13.480 We have not had a balanced federal budget since Dwight Eisenhower was president, and I think the president is very serious about this.

00:22:20.340 Now, normally you would say, well, that's not possible, but it is possible.

00:22:25.400 First of all, you have Robert Reich. You remember him?

00:22:28.080 He was the labor secretary under Bill Clinton.

00:22:31.320 I actually went to high school with him, John Jay High School, Katona, New York. 0.94

00:22:34.700 He was a smart ass then. He's a smart ass now. Frankly, I've had it up to here with Robert Reich. 0.99

00:22:40.880 But Reich was on X the other night saying that the that the supply side oriented tax cuts had caused the inflation and the deep debt that we have, which, of course, is nonsense.

00:22:53.280 It doesn't matter which candidate, which president cut taxes across the board, whether it was John Kennedy, whether it was Ronald Reagan or whether it was Donald Trump.

00:23:02.800 In every case, federal revenues went up after an across the board tax got knocked down.

00:23:08.680 That means that the deficits and the inflation are caused by spending too much.

00:23:14.460 We have a spending problem.

00:23:16.200 We don't have a problem that the working people of this country are taxed too little.

00:23:20.800 That's not the problem. So I do think, as the president said and is the secretary of the Treasury said, we're going to go through a period of dislocation here.

00:23:31.300 The question, of course, is two points. One, Donald Trump doesn't have to run for reelection and doesn't have any plans to do so.

00:23:37.060 Obviously, the Constitution is pretty clear.

00:23:39.840 Somebody should tell Steve Bannon this.

00:23:42.300 A person can only be elected president for two terms.

00:23:45.680 They don't have to be two consecutive terms, but there is a two term limit.

00:23:49.440 In fact, the Constitution also says that if a person serves more than two years of somebody else's term, as, for example, Lyndon Johnson filling more than three years of John Kennedy's term, they're not eligible to run for more than one other term.

00:24:08.900 So LBJ could have run in 1968, but could not have run again in 1972.

00:24:15.480 In any event, the president, I think, is free from the pressures of being a potential candidate for president again.

00:24:24.660 And as for the midterms, what matters is not what the stock market is doing today, not what the economy is doing today.

00:24:31.920 What will matter is what the economy is doing a year and a half from now.

00:24:36.600 And frankly, I think, given the president's commitment to energy independence and bringing down energy prices, I think his commitment to deeply cutting federal spending in the form of waste, fraud and corruption and renewal of the Trump tax cuts.

00:24:52.760 I think there's a strong chance that you could have a boom economy by the time we get to the midterms.

00:24:58.820 And, Roger, for the Marxist Dems or the Democrats who want to watch the show and who watch every night, and there's a lot of them who do.

00:25:04.640 I hope they're learning something.

00:25:06.460 The fact of the matter is, is I'm not going to sit here and defend Trump through a recession or go after Biden for having a recession.

00:25:12.800 The fact of the matter is that there's two different reasons for it.

00:25:15.580 Biden's was self-made and self-created by offshoring jobs, by cutting drilling here in America.

00:25:22.460 There's a plethora of things and reasons why Joe Biden had this economy going through the floor.

00:25:27.360 Now, President Trump says, whether you were classified as a recession or a correction, whatever you want to call it, there's a means to an end, Roger.

00:25:36.260 The last time the United States had a trade surplus, which means our exports exceed our imports, which means we're putting out more than we're giving in, was 1975.

00:25:45.580 That's 50 years, Roger, was the last time we did something like that, which means the United States is reliant on every other country for everything we bring into this country, whether it be 85 percent of our pharmaceuticals, whether it be our PPE during the China virus, whether it be our car parts, whether it be textiles.

00:26:02.160 It's everything because America is not as innovative as it was once before.

00:26:06.840 And it's because of people like Joe Biden and Barack Hussein Obama and Bill Clinton, who offshored all of our jobs over the last 25, 30 years.

00:26:15.040 And now it's up to someone to bring them back.

00:26:17.280 So this is a fight with a means to the end.

00:26:19.420 If we have to go through a tumultuous times for six months to a year, Wall Street can wait.

00:26:23.960 They've made enough money.

00:26:24.760 It's time for Main Street to start making money, Roger.

00:26:27.800 That small guy who owns the cigar shop, the small guy who owns the pizzeria, our buddy Steve Martorano who owns a restaurant down by you in Fort Lauderdale, the greatest Italian restaurant in my opinion.

00:26:37.060 It's time for these people to recuperate some of the money they've lost from inflation.

00:26:41.220 What are your thoughts?

00:26:42.400 Well, first of all, I think Cafe Europa in Fort Lauderdale could be the greatest Italian restaurant.

00:26:46.620 Well, I think Martorano is a close second.

00:26:52.360 There used to be a place called Macaluso's in Miami Beach that was right up there, sadly, no longer with us.

00:26:58.240 I went to the Miami Beach branch of Rao's the other night, and I must tell you, it was excellent.

00:27:04.120 Not that I love Italian food, but I'm kind of like Sinatra.

00:27:07.140 There's a few places for dinner every night, Italian, Italian, or Italian.

00:27:11.540 I agree with you, but that was the whole point of the last election.

00:27:17.340 Donald Trump has changed the face of the Republican Party.

00:27:20.480 We're no longer the party of Wall Street, no longer the party of the financial elites, no longer the party of the country club, no longer certainly the party of the billionaires.

00:27:30.980 So we are now, as you have had historically, remade the party in the image of its leader.

00:27:39.560 We are the party of the middle class, we're the party of working families, and that's who Trump is going to stand up for.

00:27:47.200 The tariffs, I think, are frankly a cudgel that he's using to get better trade deals.

00:27:55.120 And although everybody screams at the beginning, you've seen country after country after country fold and make a better deal with us.

00:28:02.860 To Donald Trump, a good trade deal is a deal in which both trading partners benefit.

00:28:09.020 Not a trade deal in which it's one-sided, and our trading partners have the only benefit.

00:28:14.880 And slowly but surely, the threat of tariffs is working to bring our trading partners to the table and get them to make a better deal.

00:28:26.740 Yeah, you're absolutely right.

00:28:27.520 I want to take one more quick break here.

00:28:28.720 We're going to come back with Roger.

00:28:29.660 We've got some economic indicators for you when we return after President Trump's first month in office on how he's doing, how inflation's looking.

00:28:37.920 And there's some countries now who are already folding with the tariffs.

00:28:40.920 Tariffs haven't even gotten into effect until April 1st.

00:28:43.280 And there's countries already saying, we're waving the white flag.

00:28:47.360 We're not going to fight you.

00:28:48.520 We're coming right back with Roger.

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00:29:54.080 Folks, we're back with the great Roger Stone, host of the Stone Zone.

00:29:56.740 Catch him each and every night, StoneZone.com, WABC.com, or on your radio dial for the Stone Zone, 8 p.m. Eastern time.

00:30:03.440 Roger, some economic indicators out today that inflation is not growing at a rate that the Marxist Dems would have liked to see it continue to climb at.

00:30:11.260 CNN faced with the reality.

00:30:12.840 Take a listen.

00:30:13.480 Finally, we have some good news on the economy and really the number one issue for many Americans, the cost of living.

00:30:18.940 So we just learned that consumer prices in February increased by 2.8% year over year, 0.2% month over month.

00:30:26.780 Both of these figures were a step in the right direction and both were better than expected.

00:30:33.200 So this is definitely very encouraging to see because it's going to, I think, relieve some fears that inflation was perhaps re-accelerating because this actually breaks a streak of four straight months where I think you could see it on the chart all the way to the right where the inflation rate was going in the wrong direction, right?

00:30:51.220 It was going higher and higher.

00:30:52.680 Finally, we're seeing it dip.

00:30:55.660 So which one is it, Roger?

00:30:57.160 Is the economy going in the right direction or the wrong direction?

00:30:59.660 And perhaps inflation is going down because spending is going to start to be cut.

00:31:04.380 Your thoughts?

00:31:05.300 I think you hit it on the head.

00:31:06.640 First of all, we also had job numbers just the other day, and the job numbers are also sharply up.

00:31:12.860 Look, it's going to take some time to recover from the massive spending and printing of money under Joe Biden.

00:31:20.560 And we still have an out-of-control Federal Reserve that just prints money like there's no tomorrow.

00:31:27.380 But clearly, this is one of the – this is actually a more important – those two indicators, job creation and cost of living, more important indicators than the stock market.

00:31:38.940 The stock market is, as you know, is extremely volatile.

00:31:42.920 It can go up or down very quickly on the basis of any kind of news.

00:31:47.440 I don't think it's the best indicator of the health of the economy on any one given day.

00:31:53.220 The president is not concerned about the stock market sell-off.

00:31:56.140 So, frankly, I'm not concerned either.

00:31:58.600 Yeah, Donald Trump bought a Tesla yesterday.

00:32:00.880 The stock was up $10.

00:32:01.960 Today, it's up another almost $20.

00:32:03.620 So – and Donald Trump's known for that, to put out one single tweet and the thing goes through the roof.

00:32:07.760 You look at crypto, he put out a tweet about the crypto reserves.

00:32:10.640 Crypto went right back up.

00:32:12.360 I won't be satisfied, Roger, with job numbers until we start seeing negative job numbers from inside the federal government.

00:32:19.260 But the Democrats, they wanted both ways, Rogers.

00:32:21.360 They want to tell us one day that Donald Trump's doing too much on the border or too much to the economy, and then he's not doing enough.

00:32:27.400 Now, Hakeem Jeffries, who I'll use your saying, if he had one IQ point lower, you'd have to water him like a plant, telling him that Donald Trump is not – doesn't care about the border, doesn't care about fixing things like that.

00:32:39.740 Take a listen.

00:32:40.320 National security interests.

00:32:41.260 Look, what we've seen from the Trump administration over the last several weeks is just a flood of unprecedented extremism and a parade of horribles that continue to be unleashed on the American people.

00:32:52.680 While at the same time, the Trump administration is not focused on solving the problems of everyday Americans, we're continuing to make sure that we focus on trying to make life better for everyday Americans.

00:33:09.140 Fundamentally, that's why we were sent to Washington, D.C.

00:33:12.380 We have to drive down the high cost of living.

00:33:14.900 We have to secure the border.

00:33:16.460 We have to keep communities safe.

00:33:18.000 We have to protect our dreamers and farm workers and families.

00:33:22.100 These are the things that matter as opposed to creating crisis-like moments when we should be coming together and demonstrating leadership for the free world.

00:33:33.160 As you know, now all of a sudden, Hakeem Jeffries cares about the farmers, Roger.

00:33:38.680 He cares about the border.

00:33:39.960 He cares about all these things that they had four and a half years to fix.

00:33:43.640 Border numbers are at historic lows, Roger.

00:33:45.800 A report out today, arrests are down 97% at the southern border.

00:33:49.680 So which one is it, Hakeem?

00:33:51.420 Which one is it, Marxist Dems?

00:33:52.780 Is he doing too bad for the economy?

00:33:54.300 Is he doing too good?

00:33:56.060 This is a textbook example of Alinsky's rules.

00:34:01.220 So anything Democrats accuse you of is always exactly what they themselves are doing.

00:34:08.000 It's kind of like Christopher Wray saying that if Kash Patel is appointed the head of the FBI,

00:34:14.000 then the FBI's nonpartisan, unbiased, pristine reputation will be ruined because Kash Patel will politicize the agency.

00:34:23.960 In other words, everything's exactly the opposite.

00:34:26.060 Their great fear is that Kash Patel will clean house and take the politics out of the FBI.

00:34:32.140 Perfect example.

00:34:33.320 In this case, Hakeem Jeffries supported the open borders policies of Joe Biden,

00:34:39.480 which gave the country a crime epidemic, a fentanyl epidemic, and massive fiscal problems

00:34:46.840 as states and counties grappled with paying for social services for this huge influx of illegals, 1.00

00:34:54.820 in some cases cutting services on Americans in order to do so because a state law, for example, in New York, requires that.

00:35:03.740 So Trump, I saw a statistic that just illegal crossings are down 93%.

00:35:11.740 By the way, John, this also proves what President Trump has said throughout the campaign.

00:35:16.300 Remember, Biden kept saying, there's nothing I can do.

00:35:18.880 My hands are tied.

00:35:20.140 We need new laws.

00:35:22.160 We need the Lankford bill.

00:35:24.800 Well, Lankford's bill grandfathered two and a half million illegals into the country every year.

00:35:30.400 That wasn't a border security bill.

00:35:32.420 That was an open borders bill.

00:35:34.880 It did provide more funding to process the illegals coming into the country.

00:35:40.120 It was a disaster.

00:35:41.900 But they went through an entire campaign insisting that Trump was opposed to sealing the border

00:35:47.020 because he opposed Lankford's disastrous bill.

00:35:50.780 Right.

00:35:51.520 It is. 0.98

00:35:52.460 These people are a joke. 0.61

00:35:54.060 They don't know what to run on.

00:35:55.820 There's a special election, as you may know, coming up in upstate New York.

00:35:59.400 So it's District 21.

00:36:02.000 But to New Yorkers, it's known as the North Country.

00:36:05.380 This is a seat currently occupied by Elise Stefanik, who's vacating it because the president 0.53

00:36:10.180 has appointed her to the United Nations.

00:36:12.740 One of his better appointments, in my opinion.

00:36:15.020 One of his best appointments.

00:36:16.640 The election has not yet been called because she has not yet resigned from the House.

00:36:22.160 That's because we only control the House really by three votes on paper, but by one vote, because

00:36:27.340 two seats in Florida are vacant because of the resignation of Matt Gaetz and Mike Walsh.

00:36:34.040 That special election happens in in mid-April.

00:36:37.920 But the candidate, the Democrat candidate in this district, I won't even say his name because

00:36:44.240 I don't give him publicity.

00:36:45.000 But he's running on closing the border and ferreting out the waste, fraud and corruption

00:36:51.700 from from federal spending.

00:36:56.020 He's running as a de facto Republican.

00:36:58.940 And in his advertising, nowhere does he mention that he's a Democrat.

00:37:03.500 And he also doesn't mention that his campaign coffers overnight are filled to the brim with

00:37:08.820 two million dollars that came from Hakeem Jeffries and AOC and Nancy Pelosi and the rest of the

00:37:17.580 House radical Democrats.

00:37:19.620 So the Democrats are having an identity crisis.

00:37:24.860 Talk today that Rahm Emanuel, the former chief of staff to President Barack Obama, is openly

00:37:34.060 talking about the possibility of his running for president as a Democrat.

00:37:39.260 Generally, he was the mayor of Chicago.

00:37:42.200 But in all honesty, when staffers start talking about running for president, I think that's

00:37:47.220 pretty scary.

00:37:48.100 Gives you some idea how little talent there is in the Democrat Party.

00:37:52.760 Yeah. 0.98

00:37:52.920 Rahm Emanuel, one of the low life scum involved in Rod Blagojevich's takedown of him. 0.99

00:37:58.200 Total travesty of justice. 0.98

00:37:59.620 But it's just the same names that keep getting recirculated.

00:38:02.320 The man you were talking about upstate running, Anthony Cosentino, I actually got a text message

00:38:06.240 yesterday.

00:38:07.040 He wants to come on the show.

00:38:07.940 So in the next few weeks, we're going to bring him on the show for the American people

00:38:11.140 in the audience up in Western New York to to get his sense of view on what he wants to

00:38:16.260 do in Congress.

00:38:17.620 Before we turn to a little foreign policy, I want to hit on one more thing with the

00:38:21.260 tariffs.

00:38:22.060 Some news.

00:38:22.800 Brazil's Lula, the United Kingdom and Australia already caving on tariffs.

00:38:27.340 Reciprocal tariffs haven't went into effect until they're going on April 1st.

00:38:31.560 They're already saying we're not going to fight them because they know they know they're robbing 1.00

00:38:34.440 us blindsided and our leaders are total idiots and they've gotten away with it. 1.00

00:38:38.220 So good on President Trump. 1.00

00:38:40.000 I want to talk turn now to before we get to Greenland and the news there, Russia, a place

00:38:44.960 you know very well, Roger.

00:38:46.100 You're a Russian asset, right?

00:38:48.240 A Russian colluder, Russian vodka drinker, all that good stuff. 1.00

00:38:52.640 So I want to get your take on this because Donald Trump himself is also an agent of Russia.

00:38:56.980 Now, I want to I want to tell you something because this is on the front page of the Daily

00:39:00.260 Mail right now.

00:39:01.340 The headline reads, Trump threatens Putin with devastating punishment if he doesn't accept

00:39:05.440 Ukraine ceasefire.

00:39:06.680 What kind of Russian agent would talk to their boss like that, Roger?

00:39:10.460 Donald Trump says, quote, real quick, Donald Trump says, quote, there are things that wouldn't

00:39:14.180 be pleasant in a financial sense.

00:39:15.620 I can do things financially that would be very bad for Russia. 0.82

00:39:18.700 I don't want to do that because I want to get peace.

00:39:20.580 Now, this is Donald Trump, the Russian agent going after his boss, Putin.

00:39:24.840 I don't know who does that because you get killed if you do that, Roger.

00:39:28.060 Yeah, I'm reading from the President Trump's true social post saying, based on the fact

00:39:32.720 that Russia absolutely is pounding Ukraine on the battlefield right now, I'm strongly

00:39:36.980 considering large scale banking sanctions, sanctions and tariffs on Russia until a ceasefire

00:39:43.260 and final settlement agreement on peace is reached to Russia and Ukraine.

00:39:49.220 Get to the table right now before it is too late.

00:39:53.220 Right. 0.94

00:39:53.740 So President Trump, the dictator, the Russian puppet, right? 0.92

00:39:57.740 That's no way you speak to your master, by the way. 0.59

00:40:00.200 But it just goes to show you, Roger, that Donald Trump, all he cares about is peace.

00:40:04.680 He doesn't want any money.

00:40:05.780 He doesn't want any.

00:40:06.480 He just wants peace.

00:40:08.320 For him to be going after Russia, making a statement like that is pretty damn bold,

00:40:12.060 considering Zelensky is the one who's fired up this war the whole entire way.

00:40:16.520 NATO is the one who's provoked this war for the last 40 years, continuing, 30 years, 0.88

00:40:22.320 continuing to step on Putin, step on Putin.

00:40:24.740 I did a whole show on this yesterday, 2007.

00:40:27.960 Putin came out and said, enough's enough, guys.

00:40:29.740 You said you weren't moving NATO any closer east since Germany.

00:40:33.380 And then you've added Finland.

00:40:34.580 You've added Croatia.

00:40:36.040 You've added all these other countries on my border.

00:40:39.180 What am I supposed to do?

00:40:40.360 Yeah, I think you've hit this on the head.

00:40:43.620 Trump understands it takes two to tango.

00:40:45.940 You can't have one-sided peace talks.

00:40:48.880 He's now finally, I think, with the announcement of the ceasefire yesterday.

00:40:53.060 He's gotten Zelensky to the table.

00:40:56.380 Now he has to get the Russians, who supposedly he's in the pocket of, which is an absurdity, 0.99

00:41:02.420 to the table.

00:41:03.800 I mean, John, he's the consummate dealmaker.

00:41:07.580 This is the art of the deal.

00:41:09.540 He ran as a peace candidate.

00:41:11.420 He's going to resolve this war. 0.85

00:41:13.900 The truth is, both sides are tired of the fighting, tired of the killing.

00:41:18.560 And this is pretty tough talk for the Russians, if they have any thought about not cooperating

00:41:26.580 with the president's peace initiative.

00:41:29.160 So he's not on either side.

00:41:32.380 NATO is an ally of ours.

00:41:34.360 But you're right, we agreed twice in the Budapest memorandum signed by Secretary of State James

00:41:40.860 Baker and again in the Minsk Accords not to push Ukraine into NATO.

00:41:47.520 It's because Ukraine is on the Russian border and they don't want NATO missiles, which are

00:41:54.160 really Western missiles, missiles that we unfortunately would pay for, on the ground pointed at Russia.

00:42:00.500 This is no different than 1962, when Nikita Khrushchev put Russian missile missiles on Cuba, pointed at the United States.

00:42:10.060 John Kennedy, our president in the national security state, did not react well to that.

00:42:15.560 It was a provocative threat, just as this is a provocative threat.

00:42:19.840 Yeah, if you see there on the screen there, Roger, we've got Germany right here in which

00:42:24.740 he pledged, NATO pledged not to move any further east.

00:42:28.020 Since then, we've got Romania, you've got Greece, you've got Turkey, you've got Poland,

00:42:33.160 you've got Lithuania, you've got Latvia, you've got Finland, you've got Sweden, you've got Norway,

00:42:37.260 bordering all up against just waiting on Belarus and Ukraine.

00:42:40.340 Ukraine's right there, which was the reason this whole thing started in the first place, 0.99

00:42:43.940 is wanting membership into NATO, and that puts us sensibly on the border with his country.

00:42:50.840 It's like the same thing happening if Canada or Mexico would have done it to us, we wouldn't be happy.

00:42:55.860 Real quick before we wrap up here, Greenland, electing some new leadership over there,

00:43:00.600 a little bit further right, centrist, they want their independence from Denmark.

00:43:03.820 What does that mean for Donald Trump in America, as he kind of wants to make a deal

00:43:07.900 and bring some unity between Greenland and America?

00:43:11.240 Well, John, first of all, I want to categorically deny that I am a candidate for the governorship of Greenland.

00:43:17.360 It's absolutely untrue.

00:43:19.220 I think if you had a vote in Greenland today of the people,

00:43:23.460 you would find that there is widespread popular support for joining the United States.

00:43:27.820 Denmark really doesn't do much for them and cannot protect them, whereas we could protect them.

00:43:34.140 And I think we could make their economy boom and improve the quality of life for everybody in the country.

00:43:41.240 Add to the fact that there's economic benefit to them, there's national security benefit to us.

00:43:48.320 So frankly, it's another example of Donald Trump pursuing a common sense solution to an issue,

00:43:57.060 a common sense move by the United States.

00:43:59.520 I think it's brilliant.

00:44:00.740 But anybody who thinks the president is joking, I mean, when he talks about making Canada the 52nd state,

00:44:07.600 I mean, we both understand that's a joke at Justin Trudeau's expense.

00:44:11.740 I think it's pretty funny myself.

00:44:13.600 But it's a joke, folks.

00:44:15.160 Try to relax if you're a Canadian.

00:44:16.940 He's only joking.

00:44:18.300 Maybe you don't get the joke.

00:44:19.800 But when it comes to Greenland, I think he's quite serious.

00:44:22.380 This isn't a joke.

00:44:23.540 It would be in the best interests of the people of Greenland.

00:44:26.640 And I say let them determine their own future.

00:44:29.020 I'm for self-determination.

00:44:31.220 Yeah.

00:44:31.500 And you had said America, it brings the prospect of America protecting them.

00:44:35.380 If you don't believe that America would go out on loan and protect them,

00:44:37.980 go look at how much money we've given Ukraine.

00:44:40.000 And they have absolutely no relation to us.

00:44:42.080 And they're the most corrupt country over in Europe.

00:44:44.420 So take that for what it's worth.

00:44:46.040 Roger, you get the last word here.

00:44:47.300 Until next week.

00:44:48.160 John, what a great time to be alive.

00:44:52.140 We are indeed in a golden age.

00:44:54.640 This is the age of Trump.

00:44:55.960 An unprecedented age of peace, prosperity, security, justice, and law and order.

00:45:01.920 We'll see you next week.

00:45:03.300 Roger, you're the man.

00:45:04.020 Every night, you can catch Roger, 8 p.m., 77 WABC, StoneZone.com.

00:45:08.460 Find Roger there.

00:45:09.480 Roger, we'll see you next week.

00:45:10.680 Many thanks.

00:45:11.840 Thanks, everybody, for being with us today here on The Great America Show.

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The Great America Show - March 16, 2025

The Great America Sunday Show： March 16, 2025

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