The Great America Show - November 10, 2024


The Great America Sunday Show： November 10, 2024


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Roger Stone joins us on the show to discuss the results of the 2020 election and what it means for the future of special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into the Trump administration and the election of Donald Trump to the White House. The Great America Show is hosted by John Rocha and Matt Knost.

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00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody, and welcome to The Great America Show.
00:00:05.320 It's great to have you with us.
00:00:07.380 What a week it's been in America.
00:00:09.040 I think I still have the adrenaline in my blood flowing from that victory saw on Tuesday
00:00:14.560 night until Wednesday morning, and the results that keep on coming in, and President Trump
00:00:19.040 continuing to expand on that popular vote that he won so resoundingly, wasn't expected
00:00:25.540 to do so.
00:00:26.600 Very few pollsters out there got it right.
00:00:29.000 My friends at Rasmussen were right over the target the whole entire time, yet they're
00:00:34.160 not getting the credit that they so deserve.
00:00:36.480 There's very few pollsters we have on this show, Mark Mitchell of Rasmussen, John McLaughlin
00:00:40.720 of the McLaughlin Group, and Robert Cahaley of Trafalgar Group, all polling this election
00:00:44.960 just as it should.
00:00:45.920 But if you took your information from FiveThirtyEight and those folks over there, they told you
00:00:50.720 New York Times and Siena were the folks that you had to believe.
00:00:53.540 That was the gold standard.
00:00:54.440 Now that we have the election results in, they were accurate within, I think, 12 or so
00:00:59.420 percent.
00:01:00.400 Folks, I just told you, Rasmussen, we're in the 80s to 90s, off on the popular vote by just
00:01:05.440 0.2.
00:01:06.620 So going forward, I think we know who we have to believe.
00:01:09.100 But there's no one else to blame but the corrupt Marxist media.
00:01:12.880 A lot going on in America right now, Judge Juan Merchant in New York, looking to figure
00:01:18.360 out a way on how he could dismiss that guilty charge against President Trump in New York.
00:01:23.200 I want to bring in our guest today, someone you guys all know very well, a weekly guest
00:01:26.860 on The Great America Show, the great Roger Stone.
00:01:29.940 Roger, let's start with that.
00:01:31.540 You see Jack Smith first, go to the DOJ and figure out how he can get rid of those charges
00:01:36.240 against Trump.
00:01:37.340 Now we hear Juan Merchant maybe doing the same exact thing over in New York.
00:01:40.960 Well, you know, I have mixed emotions about this, John, because in all honesty, I would
00:01:47.520 like to have seen the process play out.
00:01:49.680 As you know, Judge Eileen Cannon ruled that Jack Smith's appointment was unconstitutional.
00:01:55.380 That's because he was never confirmed by the U.S. Senate to have these broad, sweeping
00:01:59.940 prosecutorial powers.
00:02:02.500 There is no law that creates the position that he's in.
00:02:06.400 And there's no budgeted funding for his massive multimillion dollar inquisition and witch hunt.
00:02:14.200 That's now before the 11th Circuit because Smith has challenged it.
00:02:18.300 I'm not sure what would have happened there, but it would ultimately go to the Supreme Court.
00:02:22.640 I happen to believe that Judge Cannon is correct.
00:02:26.160 Now, I'm not a lawyer.
00:02:27.000 It's just based on my opinion of reading and talking to lawyers that I do respect.
00:02:31.600 The reason this interested me, of course, is because if Jack Smith's appointment was unconstitutional,
00:02:36.880 that means that Robert Mueller's appointment was unconstitutional because the identical
00:02:41.160 circumstances, which means not only would I have been pardoned, but the charges against
00:02:46.600 me would have to be vacated.
00:02:48.460 I would have moved to vacate them.
00:02:50.300 They were fraudulent anyway.
00:02:52.080 In essence here, by getting elected president, Mr. Smith has recognized the futility of trying
00:03:00.060 to prosecute a soon-to-be-sitting president, and therefore, I think he knows that the jig
00:03:07.460 is up, and therefore, he will probably dismiss the charges and resign.
00:03:14.560 Therefore, the whole question of these so-called special counsels really were acting illegitimately.
00:03:22.080 Will never be resolved, at least not in the short term.
00:03:27.260 Now you see them in New York realizing that that frame job that was done in the so-called
00:03:34.080 hush money case, they're trying to find a way to unwind that.
00:03:39.060 So I can't even imagine the incredible pressure on Election Day knowing that one of two things
00:03:46.940 was going to happen.
00:03:48.320 Either you were going to be restored to the White House and be given the opportunity to
00:03:52.080 return this country to unprecedented peace and prosperity and opportunity for all, and
00:04:01.920 potentially go down now as one of the giants of the American presidency, along with Washington,
00:04:08.680 Lincoln, and others.
00:04:11.260 Or you were going to die in a dank jail cell, having lost all of your money and your public
00:04:18.420 reputation having been completely ruined.
00:04:22.980 That's what was at stake, personally, for Donald Trump.
00:04:26.940 Imagine the stress of that.
00:04:29.240 Yet, who else could do four rallies in one day?
00:04:32.780 And that day after he'd done three rallies the previous day.
00:04:37.620 In a replay of the closing days of 2016, he simply outworked Kamala Harris.
00:04:45.660 But he also had a message for America that we could return to prosperity, that we could achieve
00:04:53.020 peace again in the Middle East and in Eastern Europe.
00:04:57.800 So, the American people are not as stupid as those in the lying Marxist mass media think
00:05:05.720 they are.
00:05:06.960 And they didn't buy the closing arguments of Kamala Harris, which seemed to me to be Trump
00:05:13.520 is literally Hitler.
00:05:16.340 Everybody who supports him is a Nazi. 0.57
00:05:19.440 That's not much of a closing message.
00:05:21.140 It's not very uplifting, to say the least.
00:05:23.540 I did a seven-hour live stream on election night, and one of my guests, Michael Lauber,
00:05:27.800 who runs the show on this network, I boiled it all down to, Roger, they started calling
00:05:32.300 Nazis now because they don't know what these other words they use are.
00:05:36.260 They don't know what xenophobes is.
00:05:37.760 They can't spell the word.
00:05:40.040 Fascist, Joy Reid, I would bet a million dollars she couldn't tell you the definition of a 1.00
00:05:44.460 fascist, let alone spell the word fascist.
00:05:46.600 So, the word Nazi, I think, is easy. 0.96
00:05:49.100 It resonates with Hitler. 0.84
00:05:50.760 It's an easy four-letter word, not hard to spell, anything like that.
00:05:56.000 But we are seeing some of these go away.
00:05:57.920 And you mentioned, obviously, you're not a lawyer, but your assessment you just gave of
00:06:00.940 that case is one that Jeff Clark, a former U.S. Assistant Attorney General for the Civil
00:06:06.800 Division, told me on yesterday's show, for everyone who missed it, exactly what you had
00:06:11.660 said.
00:06:12.000 So, it's going to be interesting to see in New York because the New York case is obviously
00:06:15.420 not covered under what would be Jack Smith's charges as a sitting president, but it is
00:06:23.140 covered under the Supreme Court ruling, which is why it should have been thrown out as soon
00:06:28.080 as that ruling came down.
00:06:29.260 Because I said it yesterday, Hope Hicks testified while she worked with President Trump, while
00:06:33.540 he was in the White House.
00:06:34.340 That should have never happened according to that Supreme Court ruling.
00:06:37.520 That's it.
00:06:37.940 Case closed.
00:06:38.300 But it seems now, Judge Juan Merchant, I'm not saying he's a good guy, but for everyone
00:06:43.500 who watched yesterday, Jeff Clark and I broke down the similarities between Chutkin and the
00:06:47.140 differences between Chutkin, who continued to allow this case to progress and progress
00:06:50.740 and progress as President Trump was running for election, and Judge Juan Merchant, who said,
00:06:55.420 OK, you know what?
00:06:56.680 I'm a little conflicted here, Merchant.
00:06:59.540 Let's take a step back here.
00:07:00.840 Let's delay the sentencing until after the election.
00:07:02.640 Let's see what happens.
00:07:03.940 Now, I don't know if it's because he's going to run for higher office, maybe the appellate court,
00:07:07.420 and this would be a stain on that.
00:07:09.500 But he did come back and acted a little bit more sensibly, and now looking like he probably
00:07:14.700 will dismiss it, which, you know, it's a win and a loss for Trump at the same time.
00:07:18.840 Like you had said, he doesn't get to go ahead and win that appeal.
00:07:21.740 But you know what?
00:07:22.700 He saves himself a little bit of money.
00:07:24.100 He saves himself the time.
00:07:25.240 He saves himself the headache.
00:07:26.560 And we've got bigger things to worry about, Roger, like a witch hunt number two.
00:07:31.220 Take a listen to Tish James.
00:07:32.420 Now, I don't know how often it is, Roger.
00:07:34.520 You've been doing this for far longer than me.
00:07:36.000 How often does a state's attorney general come out and speak after a presidential election?
00:07:41.120 Take a listen to Tish James.
00:07:42.200 I want to get your reaction.
00:07:43.680 We did not expect this result, but we are prepared to respond to this result.
00:07:50.180 And my office has been preparing for several months because we've been here before.
00:07:57.480 We faced this challenge before.
00:07:59.460 And we use the rule of law to fight back.
00:08:06.260 And we are prepared to fight back once again.
00:08:12.080 Because as the attorney general of this great state, it is my job to protect and defend the rights of New Yorkers and the rule of law.
00:08:20.120 And I will not shrink from that responsibility.
00:08:26.940 Roger, what in the world is Big Tish talking about?
00:08:30.340 Well, first of all, people who live in glass houses should not throw stones.
00:08:35.140 Her entire financial, her entire political career, I think, has been financed illegally.
00:08:42.760 Back, as you know, Eric Adams is currently charged with taking money from foreign sources, giving it to straw donors, and then putting it through New York City's campaign finance matching fund on a 10 to 1 basis.
00:08:57.580 So he turned $100,000 into almost $900,000.
00:09:03.360 Tish James was on the New York City Council before she got elected attorney general. 1.00
00:09:07.780 An examination of her campaign finance records will show some troubling patterns in the same regard.
00:09:15.160 That's just the beginning.
00:09:16.700 Then there's the funding of her campaign for attorney general, where that pattern is even larger.
00:09:22.340 There are other matters where I think she's betrayed the public trust.
00:09:29.060 So she's overreaching enormously.
00:09:31.660 She's extraordinarily vulnerable because I believe that evidence exists that she herself has broken the law in such a way that she herself should be prosecuted.
00:09:42.240 I don't know what she and her cohorts intend to try to cook up next, but their last two New York-based trials against Donald Trump were transparently absurd.
00:09:54.700 First, they tried to strip him of all of his wealth, to destroy him financially.
00:09:59.400 I'm still trying to understand this case.
00:10:02.380 So Trump valued his assets that he used for collateral in big loans that he got from banks.
00:10:11.120 Those banks conducted their own due diligence regarding the value of those assets.
00:10:17.100 Rather than taking what Trump said they were worth, they made their own decision about what they were worth.
00:10:22.880 They then lent Trump the money.
00:10:25.560 Trump paid them back, and they made $40 million in interest.
00:10:29.820 Who is the victim, John?
00:10:31.260 Who complained?
00:10:33.200 First of all, there is no complaint.
00:10:34.720 So who was victimized?
00:10:36.200 Nobody.
00:10:36.760 And by the way, every one of those banks wanted to do the deal again.
00:10:39.960 Yeah, of course.
00:10:40.680 So that case, in which Trump was not even allowed to put up a defense, basically, that knucklehead judge said, you're guilty.
00:10:51.780 Mar-a-lago is only worth $15 million.
00:10:54.740 $18 million, yeah.
00:10:56.120 Absurd.
00:10:56.740 But if that's true, I could put together an invested group, and we'll buy it.
00:11:00.100 Yeah.
00:11:00.280 And then secondarily, he says, the only question here is what the penalty is going to be that you pay.
00:11:07.620 And it was like the movie where the guy wants, you know, $100 billion.
00:11:13.720 It was like crazy.
00:11:15.880 That case is an absurdity.
00:11:18.440 The hush money case is an absurdity.
00:11:22.360 Even if there was a violation of law there, and I don't concede there was, it would have been at worst a business records violation, which would be a civil case.
00:11:34.200 And Trump would have paid a small fine.
00:11:36.200 If there was a settlement that was designed to cover up some larger underlying federal crime, perhaps there would be a case.
00:11:50.740 But the prosecutor could never define that crime.
00:11:55.380 It wasn't a federal election law crime.
00:11:58.960 So the judge wouldn't let the former chairman and general counsel of the federal election testify, because that's what he would have said.
00:12:05.220 He's the leading expert on the law in the country.
00:12:07.380 But no, no, he can't testify.
00:12:09.360 There was no, there is no crime here in either one of these cases.
00:12:12.840 The reason that they're backing off now is the whole purpose of the case was election interference, was the headline before the election.
00:12:22.900 Trump found guilty on 34 counts.
00:12:25.880 That was the whole point.
00:12:27.260 They now know they're busted.
00:12:29.160 They're worried about their own responsibilities, their own misconduct.
00:12:36.400 And this is why they're in retreat.
00:12:38.620 You know, Roger, my whole family's in banking.
00:12:40.240 I'm the only one who didn't make it into banking, probably because I wasn't too good at math.
00:12:43.460 I was better at reading.
00:12:44.380 But and that's concluding some folks in my family who are Democrats who saw this case, who are lawyers and said this makes absolutely zero sense, because President Trump can say his property is worth 200, 300, 400 million.
00:12:56.920 He can say whatever the hell he wants.
00:12:58.500 Right.
00:12:58.820 He can say it's worth a dollar.
00:13:00.440 OK, the end of the day, Roger, appraisers come in.
00:13:03.460 They do his own appraisers come in and say this is what it's worth.
00:13:05.980 All these buildings are insured.
00:13:07.220 You have to provide the appraisal price to the to the insurance company so they can insure the buildings when the bank comes to get some money.
00:13:13.600 They send their own underwriters to figure out what the building's worth.
00:13:17.100 I mean, this went through three or four different people, Roger.
00:13:19.320 It doesn't take a brain scientist to figure out what went on there.
00:13:22.600 I mean, truly troubling.
00:13:23.700 I want to take a quick break here.
00:13:24.800 When we return, New York's not the only one who are ready to keep going.
00:13:28.900 Governor Gavin Newsom is calling a special session starting next month because he's terrified of Donald Trump.
00:13:36.180 Big, tough guy he is out there.
00:13:37.900 Coming right back with the great Roger Stone.
00:13:39.380 Stay with us.
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00:14:45.840 We're back with the great Roger Stone, and Roger will be with us, as I said, each and every week here on the Great America Show.
00:14:54.360 He's a fan favorite and one of my favorites.
00:14:56.280 He's become a good friend of mine.
00:14:57.740 Roger Gavin Newsom, the Marxist damn governor of California, has called the special legislative session on December 2nd.
00:15:04.560 Newsom saying that Trump, based on his actions taken during his first term in office, is a threat to California's climate change program, illegal immigration population, women's rights, and LGBTQ plus rights.
00:15:17.180 Newsom says California is ready to fight.
00:15:19.220 Quote, I just called an emergency session just to help bolster our legal resources and protect our state against any unlawful actions by the incoming Trump administration.
00:15:29.580 What the hell is he so nervous about?
00:15:32.700 Well, this is the opening volley of his presidential campaign.
00:15:35.980 He wanted to run this time.
00:15:38.520 They settled on Brainless Kamala instead of him, even though his hair is virtually perfect.
00:15:45.600 And he is now being to look at little Josh Shapiro, who, by the way, is 5'3".
00:15:52.140 I've had it up to here with Josh Shapiro.
00:15:55.300 Shapiro has also kicked off his campaign.
00:16:00.100 He thinks the first plank in that is to try to steal a U.S. Senate seat from Republican Dave McCormick, who I believe defeated the current senator, Bob Casey, son of an undistinguished previous governor, who they used to call the three-time loss from Holy Cross.
00:16:19.220 So it is an internal Democrat squabble here.
00:16:26.140 But what's sad is that they think pushing transgenderism and a radical LGBT agenda is these are bedrock matters of concern to the American people who can barely afford food, find affordable housing, pay for a gallon of gasoline,
00:16:51.260 and are worried that we may be hit by a nuke because Joe Biden and Anthony Blinken are steering us closer and closer to World War.
00:17:02.820 So I think this is early maneuvering between those two, a giant and a midget, in the preparation for the next presidential race. 0.99
00:17:14.060 You know, it's so funny to see. And you saw it at that dinner.
00:17:18.460 I think it was with the Al Smith dinner where President Trump attended and Kamala didn't for Catholic charities.
00:17:26.480 And you saw Eric Adams go up to him. By the way, I think Eric Adams voted for Trump.
00:17:31.320 And I think he's actually he said he's excited to work with President Trump because I do think against all odds, Roger, and President Trump owes nothing to New York.
00:17:38.760 They've done nothing but hurt him.
00:17:40.240 It's the city that made him. But now it's the city that's trying to destroy him.
00:17:43.760 So he owes nothing to this shithole state that I live in.
00:17:46.940 That's number one. Number two, I think he is ready to work with these folks and try to really make America great again and do the right thing.
00:17:56.960 But you've got Chuck Schumer, Roger.
00:17:59.220 In August, Chuck Schumer wanted to abolish the filibuster so that Dems can rule by simple majority.
00:18:04.100 This week you have Chuck Schumer saying that both parties should work together and the GOP should not be able to legislate with the simple majority.
00:18:13.320 Schumer at that dinner looked like he was terrified crapping bricks, the big tough guy that he is.
00:18:19.700 What do you think Trump does?
00:18:21.260 Do you think he gives Mike Johnson a long leash?
00:18:25.600 Because, you know, I said this the other day, Roger, it kills me enough that Lou's not around anymore.
00:18:30.700 But Lou is one of the few people, Roger, who put the foot on the gas to get McCarthy out of there for lying.
00:18:36.700 And we had members of Congress, and I tell this all the time, and staffers calling us each and every day, keep going, keep going.
00:18:42.460 It's making a difference. It's making a difference.
00:18:44.160 People see what you're doing.
00:18:45.820 Lou's not around anymore.
00:18:46.800 There's not very many people who are going to do that, to hold Mike Johnson accountable, because it's up to him to make the plan about how they go about legislating.
00:18:55.380 The other side, Roger, we have the Senate.
00:18:57.620 Froghorn, Leghorn, Mitch McConnell's leaving.
00:19:00.060 Who's going to take that job?
00:19:01.720 It can't be John Cornyn.
00:19:03.180 It cannot be John Thune.
00:19:05.020 Do you think President Trump ultimately makes the right decision here on that Senate side and tells Mike Johnson you get your ass to work and you make no sidesteps or you're out of there?
00:19:14.560 Well, I would certainly hope so.
00:19:17.080 Let's start from the beginning.
00:19:19.260 This idea that Eric Adams was prosecuted because he opposed the Biden open borders policy is complete and utter bullshit.
00:19:30.520 He was an advocate for sanctuary cities and New York being a sanctuary city.
00:19:36.540 His only disagreement with Biden is that they wouldn't, pardon me, give him a multi-billion dollar check to pay for the mess that they created.
00:19:45.640 Right.
00:19:46.040 So and the charges against him are not insignificant.
00:19:49.460 He took one hundred thousand dollars from Turkey, which is illegal to take campaign funding from a foreign country.
00:19:56.860 He he laundered it through straw donors and then he submitted it for for a 10 to one match through the city's campaign finance matching fund.
00:20:09.440 That is not getting an upgrade of your seat on an airplane.
00:20:13.440 It's not getting an extra bloody Mary.
00:20:16.100 It is a serious, serious crime.
00:20:19.200 And that's just the that is just the the the the surface.
00:20:23.600 We had the New York City police commissioner's brother shaking down restaurants and nightclubs in a protection racket.
00:20:31.380 You want to have problems with the New York cops or if you don't, you better pay us.
00:20:35.280 We had the New York City fire commissioner taking payments from communist China.
00:20:41.320 Shall I keep going?
00:20:42.320 This list gets longer and longer.
00:20:44.140 So don't buy that idea that Eric Adams was punished by the Biden Justice Department.
00:20:49.840 This investigation has been open for 10 years.
00:20:54.000 We didn't just start with with with with with the mayor of New York complaining about the fact that the feds would not pay for the mess they made.
00:21:04.320 The Roosevelt Hotel, a landmark.
00:21:07.900 This was the headquarters of Governor Thomas E.
00:21:10.620 Dewey, two time Republican nominee for president.
00:21:13.160 This was the headquarters of Governor Nelson Rockefeller.
00:21:16.600 This was the headquarters of Mayor John Lindsay when he was a Republican.
00:21:22.040 This is a landmark.
00:21:23.840 This was one of the finest properties in New York.
00:21:26.480 It is now a homeless shelter for illegals and a crime scene on a daily basis. 0.62
00:21:34.140 New York is coming apart at the seams.
00:21:35.900 But Eric Adams put these migrant shelters in stable, working class, blue collar, more Republican areas.
00:21:46.960 So I have no sympathy for Eric Adams.
00:21:49.960 And by the way, I think there's more indictments coming.
00:21:52.820 For sure.
00:21:53.600 Beyond that, let me go to the second part of your question is I strongly support Rick Scott, my own senator here from Florida.
00:22:00.760 You know, I've disagreed with him here and there on an issue or two.
00:22:04.700 But by and large, he was an excellent governor.
00:22:07.600 He's been an excellent U.S. senator.
00:22:09.840 He had the courage to support Donald Trump when others did not have that courage.
00:22:14.060 And I think he is the man for the job.
00:22:16.320 John Thune is a is a creation of Karl Rove.
00:22:20.600 He's another rhino who loves endless foreign war. 0.94
00:22:24.840 You know, this is a very insular inside game.
00:22:30.200 John Corden is another one who's not had the guts to stand up for Donald Trump and the America First agenda.
00:22:35.600 So I'm hopeful that Rick Scott will emerge as the new majority leader who had the courage to take on Mitch the Turtle when nobody else would.
00:22:45.340 And he paid the price, Roger.
00:22:46.360 He paid the price.
00:22:47.480 Yes, he did.
00:22:48.080 He got no money on reelection and stopped and threatened to be kicked off of committees.
00:22:52.900 I absolutely agree with you on Eric Adams.
00:22:54.740 I think Eric Adams is guilty as can be.
00:22:56.920 I'm not going to try to debate that.
00:22:58.880 But there's no doubt in my mind that, you know, he probably is looking a little bit more favorable to Donald Trump now because he's going to probably need him for a pardon or something further on down the road.
00:23:08.680 And it's not like Donald Trump to turn their back.
00:23:11.020 He doesn't turn his back on anybody, Republican or Democrat.
00:23:13.500 The last one we left out there was Mike Johnson.
00:23:16.920 I mean, he I don't think Mike has proven himself yet.
00:23:21.820 January six tapes.
00:23:23.020 The list goes on and on.
00:23:24.300 And he's caved to the Democrats multiple times.
00:23:26.560 CR after CR.
00:23:27.580 They can't get a budget through.
00:23:28.880 They're going to have to get a budget through.
00:23:30.440 Roger, the corporate tax cuts are going to have to be renewed.
00:23:33.080 We need a border wall.
00:23:34.320 Paul Ryan did everything he could to stop Trump with the legislative agenda.
00:23:38.560 And a lot of people don't know that.
00:23:39.820 It's up to the Speaker of the House to call the legislative agenda, bring it to the president and then say, you know, pitches.
00:23:45.500 This is what I can get through my conference first.
00:23:47.660 And then we'll get to this stuff later.
00:23:49.720 Paul Ryan obviously sabotaged President Trump trying to go with health care first, ate up a shit ton of time.
00:23:55.400 And he ran out of time for everything else.
00:23:57.260 And then the Dems took over.
00:23:58.360 So there was out of time.
00:23:59.840 Do you think he keeps Johnson on a short leash?
00:24:02.160 He seems like he likes the guy, which makes me nervous a little bit.
00:24:05.500 Do you think he keeps a short leash on him?
00:24:07.360 Well, this is very, very simple.
00:24:08.740 Now that we have a more durable majority.
00:24:11.640 Mike Johnson needs to appoint a committee to investigate the January 6th committee investigation.
00:24:17.100 Yes, we need that investigation.
00:24:20.080 Why would they destroy all their records on their way out the door?
00:24:23.260 We now know that Liz Cheney was suburning perjury by coaching witnesses behind the backs of their attorneys. 1.00
00:24:30.380 She did the same thing to me and to General Flynn.
00:24:32.960 She got this woman, Cassidy Hutchinson, to lie about things that never happened.
00:24:37.480 She got Hutchinson to say that President Trump instructed his chief of staff, Mark Meadows, to call Roger Stone and General Flynn on January 5th to find out what was going to happen on the 6th.
00:24:51.420 Sorry, MSNBC.
00:24:53.120 That never happened.
00:24:54.140 There is no phone record.
00:24:55.640 That literally never happened, period.
00:24:58.420 Never had any communications with Mark Meadows then or at any other time for that matter.
00:25:05.020 Either did General Flynn.
00:25:06.120 So, and that's just one of the many lies regarding us that she coached.
00:25:12.000 We need to know who's manipulating the videos there.
00:25:15.760 Huge video manipulation.
00:25:17.480 They're so sloppy that their confection videos using AI, which are meant to demean me that they leaked to CNN, they're different than the ones they show on their televised hearing.
00:25:29.060 And they're all fraudulent, which I can prove with a simple AI detection software program.
00:25:35.120 So, the whole thing is a fraud.
00:25:37.680 We know it's a fraud.
00:25:39.080 Let's let Speaker Johnson appoint a committee with people like Corey Mills and people with some intestinal fortitude to get to the bottom of what really happened in that investigation.
00:25:52.740 There's a good place to start.
00:25:53.940 Yeah, you're absolutely right.
00:25:55.180 I want to take one more quick break here.
00:25:56.400 We return.
00:25:57.420 President Biden giving a speech this week, a concession speech.
00:26:00.100 He sounded awfully happy, Roger.
00:26:02.560 And it just goes to the tune of what we've been talking about for weeks on the show that Joe Biden hates Kamala Harris.
00:26:08.220 And I think he likes Donald Trump a little bit more.
00:26:10.180 There were some more telltale signs as for Jill Biden as well.
00:26:12.980 We're going to take one more quick break.
00:26:14.080 We're coming back with Roger Stone.
00:26:15.160 Stay with us.
00:26:15.720 We'll be right back.
00:26:45.720 We'll be right back.
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00:27:24.180 We are back.
00:27:25.500 We're talking with the great Roger Stone, who's going to be with us each and every single week until you guys fire me as hosting this show.
00:27:32.240 Roger, I want to play a clip from Joe Biden this week giving his concession speech.
00:27:36.220 The struggle for the soul of America since our very founding has always been an ongoing debate and still vital today.
00:27:46.540 I know for some people, it's a time for victory, to state the obvious.
00:27:52.300 For others, it's a time of loss.
00:27:55.860 Campaigns are contests of competing visions.
00:27:59.020 The country chooses one or the other.
00:28:02.340 We accept the choice the country made.
00:28:06.100 I've said many times, you can't love your country only when you win.
00:28:14.060 You can't love your neighbor only when you agree.
00:28:18.220 Something I hope we can do, no matter who you voted for, to see each other not as adversaries, but as fellow Americans.
00:28:28.740 Bring down the temperature.
00:28:29.960 Sounds like a man who's greatly defeated, Roger, but you saw some subliminal messages throughout the course of the campaign that we've spoken about here.
00:28:41.600 President Trump putting on that, President Biden putting on that Trump hat in Shakersville.
00:28:46.220 Jill Biden and Joe Biden not attending any events, being uninvited to any Kamala events, which I think Joe would have probably been better off than putting Mark Cuban out there as a surrogate with the crap that he did.
00:28:56.840 But you saw Joe Biden going to vote in all red.
00:29:00.840 You saw Joe Biden, before he gave that speech, Roger, grinning from ear to ear, calling President Trump, inviting.
00:29:06.800 Now, it's customary to go ahead and invite him to the White House as every president.
00:29:10.220 But the relationship they have, Roger, is not the greatest, as they've gotten families involved in.
00:29:15.940 And the whole story goes on.
00:29:17.220 But it seems like Joe Biden is a Trumper.
00:29:20.720 Well, look, Joe Biden's always been a very proud guy, very vain guy with a higher opinion of himself than anybody else.
00:29:28.840 And he deeply resents the fact that he was bludgeoned and forced out of this race by Barack Obama and then ultimately replaced by his own vice president.
00:29:38.980 So I don't think he loves Donald Trump either.
00:29:42.280 But at this point, he probably dislikes Obama and Kamala more.
00:29:46.720 Jill Biden shows up at the polling place wearing a bright red dress. 1.00
00:29:52.320 What was that about?
00:29:53.240 What what signal was she trying to send?
00:29:56.520 Yeah, look, I don't like Joe Biden.
00:29:58.660 I've never liked him.
00:29:59.640 I don't know.
00:30:00.280 I always thought he was a pompous ass.
00:30:01.620 But but a sitting president at his party's convention, you push him after midnight so he's not at primetime.
00:30:10.940 You tell him, don't hang around for the nomination of your successor.
00:30:14.620 That's that's just that's disrespectful to the institution of the U.S. presidency.
00:30:19.680 It's not right.
00:30:20.640 And I think that Joe Biden had mixed emotions.
00:30:26.180 But at the end of the day, I didn't see him doing anything effective for Kamala.
00:30:32.240 And here's the single smartest thing he did.
00:30:34.720 Oh, no, no, no.
00:30:35.760 She was in on every major decision in this administration.
00:30:39.580 So if you like the inflation and the gas prices and the food prices, wars that we're trying to pursue, she was in on it all, folks.
00:30:48.680 That was a death hog is what that was. 0.99
00:30:51.440 I want to get to those wars in a second when we wrap up here.
00:30:53.840 But I just want to talk about, Roger, the finger pointing when the Republicans didn't do as well in the midterms.
00:30:59.740 They pointed their finger at Trump.
00:31:01.200 His messaging is not good.
00:31:03.060 We never got that red wave, Roger.
00:31:04.820 But I'm sort of happy we didn't get that red wave then because we got, Roger, this wasn't even a tsunami.
00:31:10.900 This was a damn earthquake with what we got.
00:31:13.400 A clean sweep across the board.
00:31:15.200 Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Arizona is going to be called for Trump.
00:31:18.900 Nevada is going to be called for Trump.
00:31:20.160 I didn't think he was going to win every single one of those.
00:31:22.400 I was confident he prevailed in the election, as I told everybody on the show.
00:31:25.080 But, you know, there was no finger pointing.
00:31:26.860 Now, you know, the rhinos, Roger, want to go ahead and say, oh, you know, before the election, he might not win.
00:31:32.720 His messaging is no good.
00:31:34.100 It's over.
00:31:34.560 Mitch McConnell said it's over.
00:31:36.240 But you don't hear these people coming out now, Roger, and saying, oh, his messaging is what won us this election.
00:31:40.560 What you do see on the Democrat side now, Roger, is they're all pointing fingers and they're pointing fingers at George Clooney.
00:31:47.440 I mean, it's unbelievable that these people take no accountability.
00:31:52.100 The accountability is you chose Kamala Harris.
00:31:55.060 George Clooney did not.
00:31:55.880 I hate George Clooney, his guts.
00:31:58.020 I hate Robert Deere's guts.
00:31:58.900 They did not choose Kamala Harris.
00:32:00.420 They could have done this the diplomatic way, Roger.
00:32:02.620 They knew Joe Biden wasn't going to make it to the election.
00:32:05.900 They could have held an open primary where they could have put up a Shapiro.
00:32:09.440 They could have put up a Gavin Newsom that maybe had a chance to beat Trump.
00:32:13.380 I don't think so.
00:32:14.420 But going from within the administration to take somebody, as you said, who is in on everything, was not the winning message.
00:32:20.720 And I'm not a Republican strategist, Roger.
00:32:23.120 I'm just a common censor.
00:32:25.140 And for me, common sense, that makes no sense.
00:32:29.380 Well, and she walked into it herself.
00:32:31.480 I mean, remember when she was asked in one of these interviews, one of the very few interviews that she actually gave, is there anything you would have done differently than Joe Biden?
00:32:39.780 And she said, no, I really can't think of anything.
00:32:41.820 So that's why their closing message was Trump is Hitler and anybody who votes for him is a Nazi.
00:32:48.940 That's not a very uplifting, positive, driving message for the country, is it?
00:32:54.820 That's because they had nothing else.
00:32:57.240 This is the worst presidential campaign in modern political history.
00:33:01.640 Whereas on the Republican side, you know, she took a lot of slings and arrows, but Susie Wiles ran the most disciplined, organized, orderly presidential campaign in our history. 1.00
00:33:13.620 And that's not easy with Donald Trump because he's a wild animal.
00:33:17.120 He's his own man.
00:33:18.080 He does things his own way.
00:33:19.540 Yet she brought order and discipline and planning to that campaign. 0.95
00:33:25.180 She was attacked relentlessly by some in our own camp, but they were wrong.
00:33:30.380 And I was right.
00:33:31.820 And those who saw her as the right person for that job were right.
00:33:37.760 So at the end of the day here, I really think America is about to enter a golden age.
00:33:45.000 Donald Trump has a unique opportunity to return this country to unprecedented peace and prosperity, an opportunity for all Americans to restore justice to this country.
00:33:57.020 We came this close to destruction.
00:34:00.560 I thought about this somewhere in a better place where we are.
00:34:04.240 Lou Dobbs looking down on all of this and he was smiling.
00:34:09.040 Yeah, he absolutely is.
00:34:10.460 I mean, Lou, I often tell everybody it wasn't because he was my boss and it wasn't because he was my mentor and it wasn't because he taught me everything I know.
00:34:16.560 But, you know, when I first started working for Lou Roger, I'll tell you a quick funny story.
00:34:20.540 I walked into his office and we started talking politics and I started saying he asked me who I like in the Senate.
00:34:25.780 And I'm naming off names because that guy's no good.
00:34:28.580 I won't say what he actually said, but that guy's no good.
00:34:31.040 And I'm like, how does this guy know?
00:34:33.280 Roger, each and every single one of them that I named off at one point or another turned out to be a lowlife, turned out to be scum.
00:34:42.080 There wasn't one person, Roger, that Lou was off on.
00:34:45.840 That man had a radar that was like no other.
00:34:49.540 He was right about every single person.
00:34:52.000 In 2016, Roger, you may remember this.
00:34:53.900 He was the only person on television who stood by Donald Trump after that Access Hollywood tape came out.
00:34:59.340 One of the only people in the industry to stand by him because he knew what it was.
00:35:03.320 It was a bunch of nonsense and bullshit.
00:35:05.340 I want to wrap up with this, Roger.
00:35:07.280 And we miss Lou so much, by the way.
00:35:09.500 I think of him every day.
00:35:10.700 I want to wrap up with this.
00:35:12.720 President Trump, less than 24 hours after winning the presidency, is already getting to work, taking calls from world leaders, Netanyahu, Modi, Moon, across the board.
00:35:24.700 Hamas has announced, Roger, they want this war to end.
00:35:27.980 That was less than 24 hours.
00:35:30.200 Just a little bit, 24 hours after 24 hours, we learned that the Kremlin says that they are open to meeting with Donald Trump before he's inaugurated.
00:35:40.280 Now, I see this one or two ways, Roger.
00:35:42.420 If he ends that war in Ukraine before he takes office, they will say he's a Russian asset, he's best friends with Vladimir Putin, and that's how he was able to do it.
00:35:51.420 If he doesn't end that war before he takes office, they will say Donald Trump lied to us.
00:35:56.100 He couldn't get done what he promised he was going to do.
00:35:58.740 He was going to end that war. 0.55
00:36:00.200 How do you see both of those situations going?
00:36:02.880 I actually, look, I'm not a foreign policy expert.
00:36:06.840 I'm a politico.
00:36:08.200 My specialty is winning elections in the United States.
00:36:11.140 However, I think that the Russians have actually shown restraint waiting for the outcome of our election to see if they could get someone from the United States to actually sit down and see if we could negotiate a settlement along with, of course, the Ukrainians. 0.70
00:36:27.040 We don't even have peace talks going on.
00:36:29.460 There are no negotiations.
00:36:30.960 This is beyond belief.
00:36:32.880 We're this close to a world war, but we we don't even have a dialogue going between the two sides.
00:36:39.340 That's not leadership.
00:36:40.400 That's that's insanity.
00:36:42.520 So I took this as a very positive sign.
00:36:46.480 I do believe there's a solution.
00:36:48.840 By the way, Joe Biden blurted out that he was willing to give the Russians parts of Ukraine to settle the war until his handlers shut him up.
00:36:57.560 So, no, he's not just going to give half the country to Russia to solve the war.
00:37:01.800 That's what they'll be saying over at MSNBC.
00:37:05.380 But he can.
00:37:06.780 He's a dealmaker.
00:37:07.940 He knows how to make a deal.
00:37:09.400 And he knows that we have to stop the killing.
00:37:12.480 Yep.
00:37:13.120 We have to stop the killing both in the Middle East and here. 1.00
00:37:16.360 He's the only one that can do it.
00:37:17.840 One of the principal reasons he won in this blowout election last Tuesday is because he is a he ran as the peace candidate.
00:37:27.120 Remember when the Democrats for the Party of Peace, they didn't like the war in Vietnam.
00:37:31.260 They know the FBI was was corrupt.
00:37:34.440 And they thought the surveillance of the police state was horrific.
00:37:38.740 Now they embrace all those things.
00:37:40.420 They're wonderful.
00:37:41.180 Everything has changed.
00:37:43.360 Final point.
00:37:44.520 We're heading into the biggest, most massive realignment in American politics.
00:37:50.140 We had one in 1932 when Franklin Roosevelt broke the Republicans grip on African-American voters who are solidly Republicans because of the Civil War, because of the great emancipation.
00:38:04.260 But because of the of the Depression and the fact that the New Deal offered black Americans some help, reformed a coalition that governed until 1952, from 32 to 52.
00:38:17.820 Then in 1968, Richard Nixon for pardon me, forged a new coalition in which blue collar Catholics in the Middle East, in the industrial Northeast, joined with white Southerners who previously had voted Democrat, form a new permanent coalition that fully once it's fully mature, brings Ronald Reagan to the White House.
00:38:44.900 Same coalition, by the way, that brought Donald Trump to the White House.
00:38:49.440 It's the same coalition that Donald Trump has now expanded, adding African-Americans, adding Hispanics, adding Catholics.
00:38:57.460 So we're at a time when Dick Cheney and his corrupt daughter and what's left of the McCain's and little Adam Kissinger, they can go with the globalist Warhawk Party.
00:39:10.440 We'll take Robert F. Kennedy Jr. We'll take Tulsi Gabbard. We'll take Governor Rod Blagojevich.
00:39:16.480 We'll take common sense Democrats who believe in free enterprise and capitalism and a strong national defense and the defense of the middle class and making America both prosperous and healthy again.
00:39:31.380 This is the most significant development politically in my lifetime.
00:39:36.200 I'm just happy to be alive today, to be a part of it.
00:39:40.520 You missed two, Roger. There are two important ones, I think.
00:39:43.400 We'll also take Elon Musk, the world's smartest and richest man.
00:39:46.820 And we'll take one. I know you didn't like him and I'm sure you like him a little bit better now.
00:39:52.500 Joe Rogan.
00:39:53.580 I'll let you think about that one for next week's show.
00:40:00.140 I want to wrap up with one thing.
00:40:01.360 I'm with you. I'm going to get on Elon.
00:40:02.920 I love Elon. I'm great to have my free speech rights back on X.
00:40:06.940 Well, by the way, I'm Roger J. Stone Jr., Roger J. Stone Jr.
00:40:11.240 I'm verified there. Please follow me.
00:40:14.020 Yeah, be sure to do that, folks. 0.82
00:40:15.960 You know, I know you're not too hot on Joe Rogan, but at the end of the day, he did finally have Trump on the podcast, Roger.
00:40:21.720 It did 30 or 30 or so million views.
00:40:23.980 And you don't know.
00:40:25.160 We don't know how many of those people are in Arizona who or Las Vegas or somewhere in Nevada who did it.
00:40:31.880 So, you know, we can we can argue about it.
00:40:33.940 But at the end of the day, I think he did the right thing.
00:40:36.760 Whatever. Last thing I want to wrap up with here.
00:40:39.900 I saw a chart out on Twitter the other day, and it's very telling.
00:40:43.420 It shows that in 2012, 2016, 2024, there's a similarity of Democratic votes across America, somewhere in the range of 65 to 68 million, somewhere in there.
00:40:56.380 There is one outlier, Roger.
00:40:58.440 And that and by the way, in those years, the Republican vote has continued to grow for 60 million up to about 63 million, up to 71 million, which is 2020.
00:41:09.960 There's one year and then this year, obviously, where he's going to reach out as well.
00:41:14.600 But there's one issue there, and it's 2020, Roger.
00:41:17.940 They go from 65, 65 to 81 million and now back down to 67.
00:41:24.300 All of us, most of the people I have on the show, including you and I, Roger, we're election deniers.
00:41:29.400 That's not I don't consider myself that.
00:41:31.260 But that's what the left will consider me.
00:41:32.600 And they consider you.
00:41:33.460 I don't think there's a time better than right now to get to the bottom of what happened in 2020 before any statute of limitations run out on election crimes, because that should never happen again, Roger.
00:41:46.940 Well, I think it's very obvious what happened here.
00:41:49.140 Norm Eisen and Neil Keitel and Andrew Weissman and those involved who were involved in a criminal conspiracy to steal an American election.
00:41:58.840 They stole more votes than they needed.
00:42:00.900 It's obvious.
00:42:01.740 So, yes, there's another area where, again, Speaker Johnson should point a committee to get to the bottom of that, because it's statistically impossible, as any election expert will tell you.
00:42:15.640 Yeah.
00:42:15.880 And you know what?
00:42:16.540 Now we'll see if some people grow backbones.
00:42:18.160 We've been talking about it, Roger, for years.
00:42:20.040 Lou's show got canceled on Fox Business for talking about it.
00:42:22.400 Tucker Carlson got fired from Fox News for talking about it.
00:42:25.980 You get canceled across all platforms.
00:42:27.720 We'll now see if these big, tough guys all of a sudden want to talk about what we've been talking about for the last four years, about stolen elections and the consequences we faced.
00:42:37.300 Roger, you're a great American.
00:42:38.640 We'll see you right back here next week.
00:42:40.500 What time and where can everyone listen to you each and every night?
00:42:44.560 Folks can go to Rumble.com slash Roger Stone to watch The Stone Zone every day at 8 p.m. Eastern.
00:42:51.440 And, of course, one of my great privileges is to do three hours every Sunday at WABC Radio New York.
00:42:59.580 I used to do two hours.
00:43:00.920 I was preceded by the great Lou Dobbs.
00:43:03.280 I'm proud to pick up that mantle.
00:43:06.060 I dedicate my first hour every Sunday to Lou.
00:43:09.120 I do it the way Lou would do it.
00:43:11.600 Lou loved to take people's questions.
00:43:13.340 I'm getting better and better at it.
00:43:14.900 You can go there every Sunday by going to WABCRadio.com, WABCRadio.com.
00:43:22.240 Thanks for having me on, John, and I'll see you next week.
00:43:24.880 Roger, real quick before you go, I don't think there's any person, as Lou smiles down on all, that's what happened this week.
00:43:29.640 I don't think there's any person more than you, then Lou would want to take that spot over for him, with the exception of maybe me.
00:43:37.180 But you can't convince me to go to work on a Sunday.
00:43:39.560 I'm sorry.
00:43:40.720 Roger, we'll see you next week, brother.
00:43:42.320 Thank you, John.
00:43:43.020 God bless you.
00:43:43.580 God bless you.
00:43:44.280 Thanks, everybody, for being with us, and thanks to the great Roger Stone.
00:43:47.300 I hope you guys enjoy our conversations as much as I do.
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00:43:59.180 And this is Lou's show, after all.
00:44:01.080 I'm just sitting here until him and I meet again one day.
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