The Great America Sunday Show： September 22, 2024
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Russ Tice joins us to talk about the latest assassination attempt on President Trump, and if it was done by a lone wolf, or was it done by the Deep State? Also, we discuss the latest attempt on the President, and why we should be worried.
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Hello, everybody, and welcome to The Great America Show. It's great to have you with us.
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It's been a few days since the latest Trump assassination attempt. It's scary to say,
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and sad at the same time, that this is now a normal occurring thing in this country.
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First attempt, happening over two months ago, has sort of gone by the wayside,
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with the mainstream media doing all they could to forget about it. Perhaps that's why we know
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little to nothing about it after two months. The latest one, however, we're getting a lot
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more insight, a lot more insight on just how mentally deranged this man was, and the troubling
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past that follows him. Some things just don't smell right, like the many times the man has been on the
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radar of the FBI, Interpol, and Customs and Border Protection. In this latest attempt, it was lucky
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it was down in the state of Florida, a state where we may get some real answers onto what went on,
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much different from the Marxist Dem-run state of Pennsylvania. To take all this up, our guest today
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is somebody you all know very well on the show. He's our go-to guy when things we deem
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deep state on this program, or even have a hint of the stench of the deep state. He's Russ Tice,
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former NSA senior intel analyst and whistleblower. Russ, it's great to have you on the show. Just
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great timing. You know, we had you on the last time for the last assassination attempt, which you'd said
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two years prior was coming. Last time we spoke just a few weeks ago, you said, don't be surprised
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because another one's coming before the election. Just wait for it. In your best judgment, I mean,
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who's responsible for these two assassination attempts now in the course of just over two
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months? I mean, is this just another, quote, lone wolf? Or is this perhaps something a little deeper,
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maybe like the deep state? Well, we discussed before how the first, what, Crooks fella, you know,
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they were very quick to clean up the mess on the roof and to cremate that body, which led me to
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believe there might be something in his blood. They wanted to make sure no one else could get their
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hands on, as well as all of the other odd things that we discussed about that case. And now we have this
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fella, what, Ruth, whatever we want to pronounce it. But this guy supposedly is overseas trying to
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recruit fighters for Ukraine. And he's had some other very odd dalliances with foreign policy type
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issues. And then he shows up with an SKS, which is, by the way, a Soviet weapon, with its serial numbers
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somehow removed. And supposedly this guy's had run-ins with the law and he has never been known to have
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had much of an income in his life. So where does he get the wherewithal to do all these things that
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brings him to a, uh, to the bushes, uh, you know, hiding, waiting for, uh, for president Trump to show
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up to the sixth hole for, for maybe a birdie pot or something. It just, this whole thing, once again,
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it just reeks. And, and this one, this one, you know, before I thought, well, maybe, maybe Crooks was
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doing what, you know, they were using some drugs on that young man. I think, uh, this one just reeks of
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CIA that he reeks of Langley. Um, and, and once again, the fact that, uh, that, you know, this,
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the secret service was lacking in the coverage of, you know, I mean, allowing a, um, a fence in a,
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in a, in a shrubbery line open to the public. Um, it's, it's just, I just, it's hard to believe
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that, that this thing is, is just a couple lone wolves that are involved. I, you know, I used to,
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I mean, that's something we talked, I said, it was about 60% that I, that this is probably a deep
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state oriented, uh, attack. Now, now I'm jumping at the 70% that, um, now, uh, come the next one and
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we'll talk about potentially now that one's going to come about. Uh, we'll, we'll see what happens,
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but I think they're going to come again. They're not going to give up. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you,
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like I said, you were right the first, and I want you to be as wrong as possible on this because
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of course, I mean, not always, this is detrimental to president Trump, his family, but as a nation,
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I mean, you look at the, all these other countries who are looking at us. I mean, you're turning out
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to be a, we'll call you a Russ Stradamus. You'd mentioned some of his, his overseas affairs.
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And I want to go through that for the audience because for anyone listening, I mean, they're,
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they're highly questionable. So he was, you mentioned he was over in Ukraine and this is
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reporting from, I believe it was the wall street journal girl named Chelsea Walsh, who's a nurse.
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She had several encounters with Ruth in Kiev, Ruth being the, the, uh, attempted assassin. The
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second one, she alerted, uh, the authorities to Ruth is Ruth's threats of violence multiple times
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telling the wall street journal in June of 2022, she conveyed her concerns to a customs and border
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protection officer in hours long interview at Washington Dulles, noting that Ralph was a quote,
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Ralph was among one of the most dangerous Americans she had met during her month and a long,
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a month and a half long stint in Ukraine. Again, in April of 2023, Walsh alerted FBI
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and Interpol about Ruth, but did not hear from back from the FBI. When she heard in 2023,
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that Ruth was attempting to recruit Syrian refugees to fight in Ukraine. She filed an online report with
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the FBI and Interpol outlining her concerns about Ruth and others, neither customs nor the FBI
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followed up with her. The FBI, of course, not responding for comment to these claims by, uh,
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Ms. Chelsea Walsh. Ruth's behavior had been flagged once again in the past by the FBI,
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though not in connection with Ukraine. A tipster told the FBI back in 2019 that Ruth had a firearm
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despite being a felon. One question further would not verify providing the information an FBI official
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had said. Highly questionable. After being alerted to these messages in early June, other groups began to
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ban him from their signal groups and reported his activities to the State Department. Very
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concerning. Uh, there were, they said there, there might have been some other concerns about him
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engaging in human trafficking or immigration fraud, according to another person familiar with the
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sources. How does a man like this, uh, you had said, you know, no streams of income that, you know,
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we don't know if this guy was working at a Walmart or he was working at a gas station or,
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or working at a tech firm or anywhere much like, uh, Crooks, the first shooter, not much to know
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about this guy, how he got to Florida, how he got this weapon with a shaved off serial number.
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And everyone knows only criminals carry weapons with, with shaved off serial numbers to not track
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the weapons where they came from, who originally bought the weapon. But how does a man like this with
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such a checkered past of, of just red flag after red flag, um, get past, you know, the smell test,
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we'll call it. Maybe it was designed to get past the smell test. Uh, hopefully young lady,
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Miss Walsh kept records of the, the, the documentation that she, uh, she put forth to, to warn the
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authorities. Um, like I said, this thing just, once again, it's just smells really, really bad. And
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the fact that the, you know, the secret service didn't have anybody except for a team that would
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go from hole to hole just to check things out. Now, luckily one of these secret service agents,
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uh, spotted a barrel sticking out of the fence. Um, but it may be if this guy had was a little bit
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better with his camouflage on the barrel of the, of that SKS rifle, right. That never would have
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happened. Then this once again could have been much worse than, than how it turned out.
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Yeah. You know, it's, it's, it's troubling. Like I said, not only to a country that things like this
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keep on happening, um, but to the Trump family that they, that they have to worry about their
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father and their, their, you know, Melania's spouse has to worry about getting his head taken
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off by these lunatics, leftist lunatics. We're going to take a quick break, Russell. When we return,
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I want to take up why this keeps happening. Is it by design? Who's responsible for it? Um,
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and everything that comes with it, we're going to take a quick break. We're talking with
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former NSA, uh, senior Intel analyst and whistleblower Russ Tice. I mean, there's nobody
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more, uh, in tune to these kinds of things. Russ spent a lot of years in the NSA. He knows the
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inner workings of the government and how they get things done when they want to get them done.
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Uh, and thank God these last two attempts unsuccessful, but we're going to take it up on
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the other side of this quick break. Stay with us. We're coming right back.
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We're back with Russ Tice, former NSA senior intel analyst and whistleblower. And Russ,
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I want to turn to something that's even more troubling. Former Navy SEAL and now Congressman
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Eli Crane, who's a great American, I mean, probably one of the greatest members of Congress that's on
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the Hill right now, on a television program this week, says there's a very real possibility that
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there's a mole inside the Secret Service or the team surrounding President Trump. Now, you and I
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have spoken about this many times in the past that in order to get things done like this, there needs
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to be somebody on the inside to relay information. And the reason I say that is because President
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Trump's trip to the golf course was unannounced. It was not unexpected because he does play a fair
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amount of golf, but it wasn't on any schedule anywhere. So the only people that knew he was going to be
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there were his close aides and the Secret Service who protect him. Your thoughts?
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Well, I did work with CIA quite a bit, spent a lot of time at Langley. Matter of fact, I spent so much
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time there, I had a bank account at their credit union, and overseas. I was always bumping into them.
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I do know one thing about these sort of operations. There's normally always at least one inside man.
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And I would think if there's an inside man, he's probably mid-management to upper management that's
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the mole in this case, because he would have to know the timing and planning of things to be able
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to get that out to the right people that intend President Trump harm. But like I said, this looks
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very dirty. And if I had to guess, like I said, I'm now at 70%. And if that's the case, and this is
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the deep state, someone or someones at Secret Service are probably moles that are involved in
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So if this, I mean, you've worked with the CIA, you worked for the NSA, probably doing missions you
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can never talk about, seeing things that you could never have imagined and done things that you could
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never have imagined are done in America. If this is, you know, a covert operation by the U.S.
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government, and their goal is to kill President Trump, how is it that they've now failed twice?
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Well, it seems to me they're trying to go up the ladder. They're trying to go with the, you know,
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first they're using the crazed young man, and then ultimately that didn't work out. So now they've
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moved up one step the ladder to go with this fella. The desperation will probably get worse. And
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perhaps the next step will be a technical, you know, arrangement, something like now there's
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always contingency plannings anytime, you know, you know, we in our world, we call these special
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access programs. Anytime you set out on a mission, you have contingencies, you have plan A, B, C and D.
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Well, well, apparently, if this is the case, plan A and plan B have already failed. So now we have to
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go to plan C. And perhaps plan C is a little bit more technical. Now, you've just noticed that in
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Lebanon, a whole bunch of Hezbollah fellows just had their testicles blown off by the pagers that they
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had in their pockets. You know, no one's no one's claimed responsibility for that. But that's that's
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a high tech attack. So the high tech could be if I was, you know, had to think of the way to do this,
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I would say, go after his airplane, you know, plug things into the into the maintenance logs that are
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just innocuous about maybe a sticking valve or something of that nature or something with the
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hydraulics or some kind of something or other, and then plant some sort of thing that you that you
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could you could pop something critical in flight that and then you pay off the right people, the
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right mechanics or whoever, and you then you make sure the the transportation folks that do the
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the the the accident, the crash test, you know, wax it over and you just say, well, it was an
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unfortunate accident. Then, oh, if we look back, you know, we have a history of a little problem.
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And that that's that's a horrible thing that happened. You know, of course, now now you're
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moving up the ladder. Now you're taking out a whole lot more people. Right. So that's something
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that believe me, that's the kind of thing or a vehicle that that has some kind of computer control
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capabilities and that you could you could hack into it and get it to do something, you know, like,
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you know, speed up to 120 miles an hour and run into a palm tree or something. So it's
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if I had to guess, I'd say there's they're going to the technical world and the things could get,
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you know, and the CIA has to stop thinking that they're that they're only going after,
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you know, the the the loan shark enforcer and that mentality because they're not they're going
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out with people that are that are quite witty. And then these people are thinking these things out
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and they have to be able to think at a higher level to be able to counter these things.
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Do you think do you think that these these whoever's doing this, if there is a deeper power behind
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it, are doing it to send a message to President Trump or they're doing it to actually wipe him
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off the face of this earth? Well, I think they've probably got the point. They've gotten the message
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now that President Trump is not going to give you. He's just not going to cower away. You know,
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right. Think of the fortitude of this guy. It's incredible. Yeah. I'm this.
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You know, I just this guy could have just gone off and lived his life. He's a billionaire. He could
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be living the high life. And he's you know, he's not a young pup anymore. But it's and here he is
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fighting for our country and fighting to get get rid of this. These reprobates that have taken over our
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country. And it's I think they got the message now that they will have to take him out. Right.
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And I think, like I said, I'm at 70 percent now that this is not just, you know, a couple of lone
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wolves that that they're going to go up the ladder. You know, the ultimate at the end, say we can thwart
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any kind of a high technical thing that may be there may be in the offing here. And they're
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liable to go all the way to the point of having a like an Iranian team of 10 to 12 like combat
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terrorists come in with with weapons that have like armored piercing bullets and RPGs and literally
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attack his motorcade and take out every Secret Service guy in a way. And and and along with the
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president, sort of like that movie, Jack Ryan or the Jack Ryan, Tom Clancy movie where they're in
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Columbia somewhere. And I think it's yeah, but the and Lord for what now and you think, well,
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how could that possibly happen? I mean, you think that they would, you know, somehow they'd be able
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to get through our border with with RPGs and weapons and potential Iranian terrorists. I mean,
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it's not like that we have an open. Oh, wait a minute. We do have a wide open border, don't we?
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Right. Where they could easily smuggle in weapons and they easily smuggle in Iranian terrorists.
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And of course, Iran, once this happens, the government will just say this was Iran. And
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you know what? Iran would probably take responsibility. This is a retribution for for Soleimani.
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Soleimani. So the powers that be are the deep state would would be able to put it off
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onto the Iranians. The Iranians would be happy to take responsibility. And and boom. Oh, it's
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horrible that we had terrorists take out our who knows by that time. He's liable to be the president
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elect. Right. But I think they're going to get more and more desperate if this indeed is the deep
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state. And like I said, I'm about at 70 percent that this is probably a deep state mentality attack
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here. You'd mentioned Iran and the groundwork, I think, for that prospect of that happening is I
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think has already been laid because they've already said, you know, Iran is planning an attack on
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President Trump. So, you know, it's easy to just thwart it off on them. And I don't think the
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government cares about taking out a few of even their own people to get something done that they
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want to do. You mentioned the airplane. My background is, you know, we've spoken before is as a
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pilot. Hydraulic is something that usually mentioned. Hydraulic. Hydraulic runs everything on
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that 750-70 flies in the ailerons, the elevator. If you have no hydraulic pressure, that plane is
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just a flying paperweight because you can't control an elevator up or down. You can't turn left or
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right. So, you know, things like that are very, very scary, especially if it's coming from the
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inside, because it's something that they'll be able to do very easily. You know, high pressure
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hydraulic leak or something to that sort. It almost makes you think you had mentioned movies. I don't
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know if you've ever seen the movie with Gerard Butler, Law Abiding Citizen, where he's literally
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killing people and controlling people, you know, from a prison cell with, you know, wires and cell
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phones blowing up cars of FBI agents and everything like that. We're living in, you know, in a movie
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right now, I think, with everything we're seeing going on. From your time at NSA and CIA, you know,
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is this something, your best judgment, have you seen the NSA or the CIA do anything at your time
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there that would point you to believe that this is something there may be responsible for right now?
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Hmm. Yes, we do things like that overseas. When I remember, I was I would be support with with space
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systems communications and and different things that have to be relayed through space. So that's
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that's the role that I would play in these sort of things. So and believe me, when you're in remote
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parts of the world, you're probably going to have to come talk to me about, you know, what you're going
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to want to do somewhere in some remote part of the world or plant something or, you know, place
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something that's going to do something later on when you needed to do it. But these these things were
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always, always against an enemy that truly was a threat to our country. And like I said before,
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when when I first saw the supposed hanging of the DC madam, and then, of course, the Jeffrey Epstein
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thing where I knew that was a CIA hit with with much support from from money from big, big donors
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there that I knew our capabilities that we've been quiet about overseas have now been brought right
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here to home and used against our own people. And I fear I did I dearly fear that now we're using it
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against our former president and and probably are soon to be president elect. And that's what's
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ultimately why I came forward two years ago and tried to get in touch with the the Secret Service.
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Right. And ultimately contacted Lou, Lou, Lou Dobbs about, you know, you know, bringing these things
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out. Yeah. I hope I'm wrong. We all do, Russ. You know, you'd mentioned, you know, if you would have
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told me, I think 2015, 2016 opened the eyes of a lot of Americans. Right. We never imagined it, at least
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myself in the ordinary American. You're different because this is what you've done for your entire career,
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your life. You've seen the U.S. government undermine nations and everything of that sort.
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But if you would have told me 2014, 2013, that we'll say 9-11, a lot of people say it was maybe an inside job.
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I don't know. You know, I don't have an opinion on it. I really don't like to think about it because I had
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friends who lost parents in the Twin Towers and firefighters that I grew up with and went to school with.
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You know, I pray and hope that something like that would have not been done by our American
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government. But then you think back of what they did to President Trump. They tried to frame him with
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Russia, Russia, Russia. We now have two assassinations attempt on him. They impeached him
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multiple times. Criminal cases against him, which would put him in jail over 700 years.
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It makes you think back of things, like I said, like 9-11, like JFK being assassinated and the
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documents not being fully released years, years later, where everyone who's taken part in it,
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if it was a government operation, have been killed. Sources and methods way outdated.
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Why haven't those been released? You'd mentioned Jeffrey Epstein. I think
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if it's not 100 percent, it's 99 percent of the of the world believes that Jeffrey Epstein was killed
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in jail. You have Diddy, who was arrested this week for similar crimes, sex trafficking and things
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like that, denied bail, offered 50 million dollars bail his house and his mother's house,
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surrendered passports, denied bail. I think it's got people wondering now what's going to happen
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to him inside of a jail cell if his fate is already sealed, being his connection to who he had.
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You know, it was a friend of Barack Obama. You know, he had the FBI says there were allegedly tapes
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of people who took part in some of his parties. I want your your your thoughts on this on the other
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side of this break, because we went a little bit over here on all of this. And, you know,
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pre-2016, 2015, if you thought any of this could happen, we're going to take a quick break. We're
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We're coming back with Russ Tice, former senior NSA Intel analyst and whistleblower.
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We're back. We're talking with Russ Tice, former NSA senior intel analyst and whistleblower. And Russ,
00:26:05.620
before we went to break, I had brought up the prospect of things that have happened over the
00:26:10.000
course of, I will say, the last 100 years or so. The assassination of JFK, 9-11, Epstein. I want to
00:26:18.660
get your take on that day on 9-11. Knowing all you know about what the government is capable of doing,
00:26:25.200
knowing now what we know the government did in 2015 and 2016, give me your take on what you think
00:26:32.480
transpired that day. Well, I'd just gotten back from the Middle East just a couple of months earlier,
00:26:38.340
a few months before that happened. And I was there for, I was in the Middle East for, I think,
00:26:42.080
four or five months, that one particular trip. And I had no clue that this was coming down. So,
00:26:49.260
the operation security of the terrorists was very good. Now, NSA, just before that happened,
00:26:57.060
they had transmissions that if only we had the linguists to listen to them, we could have thwarted
00:27:04.900
the attack. But we didn't have the linguists hired. They were buying, they were stacking the deck with
00:27:13.060
too many cyber warfare warriors, ultimately use their skills to spy domestically on all the Americans
00:27:21.460
in our country. So, you know, the heck with the linguists, let's, let's, you know, let's beef up
00:27:26.540
on being able to spy domestically on everybody. So, but the thing that I find very interesting about 9-11
00:27:32.480
was, was the World Trade Center Building 7 coming down. And that made no, to this day, makes no sense
00:27:41.360
to me. And that's also, I think, where all the security offices were, the intelligence offices were,
00:27:49.980
and all kinds of things of that nature. I think the University of Alaska did some kind of analysis
00:28:00.000
on, on whether that could have happened just with a, with a fire. And they, they came to the
00:28:04.200
conclusion, there's no way they could have brought a fire, could have brought down that building,
00:28:07.940
just a regular fire. Now the, the World Towers, they, they had the jet fuel to deal with,
00:28:12.980
which is a different story. But a lot of people have, you know, said over the years that they,
00:28:19.120
you know, whether the way the building came down or the temperature at which heat, you know,
00:28:24.340
the, the, the fire would have melted beams and the whole thing coming straight down.
00:28:29.040
You know, even then there's, you know, people, you know, professionals who say that
00:28:37.440
Well, I'm not a construction engineer. So as far as one and two, the main towers,
00:28:41.020
you know, supposedly the blast blew all the insulation off the beams and that, you know,
00:28:47.300
subjected them to the extreme heat. And that ultimately caused the, the pancake collapsing.
00:28:52.440
And once they started pancaking, it just, it wants, it just crushed upon itself. I,
00:28:58.160
I'm not an engineer as far as that sort of business. So I don't know, but it was number seven that I just
00:29:04.660
went, Oh, this makes no sense to me, none whatsoever. Um, and, and there's other things
00:29:11.200
to this day, they're hiding like, uh, the flight 93, you know, what about the one engine that
00:29:17.100
disappeared and what happened to that? And how come no one's been able to inspect the, inspect that
00:29:20.980
engine? Um, so there's, there's, and it's some very interesting, uh, uh, testimonials from the
00:29:29.600
people that live there and, uh, outside of, or near Shanksville and Pennsylvania, Southwest Pennsylvania.
00:29:35.240
So that I found to be very interesting too. Um, and I, there's a couple other things about that.
00:29:43.200
I know I, I, I won't say here, but cause they have to do with some very secure communications, but
00:29:49.340
and that scares the hell out of me, by the way. Uh, it's yeah, it's, um, yeah, 9-11, a couple of,
00:29:58.920
you know, I mean, everybody in the Intel business, including myself, I felt ashamed.
00:30:04.720
It was my job as an intelligence officer to make sure something like, and I'd just gotten back from
00:30:09.840
the middle East. Right. And I didn't have a clue. The only thing I could do is I, I sent the report
00:30:15.020
in cause I'd read, um, a lot of the intelligence I get, by the way, is, is from unclassified sources.
00:30:21.200
Everyone thinks that, you know, something many in the Intel business, Oh, I only want to read
00:30:24.660
something that's top secret or above. Well, if you're an all source analyst, you're supposed to get it
00:30:28.720
from all different sources and all different levels of intelligence. Sometimes it's some
00:30:33.540
innocuous little piece of something in a newspaper that can give you the key to, to pulling, to putting
00:30:39.840
the puzzle together. Well, Twitter now in our case. Yeah. So, and I read that the, I, the, uh,
00:30:45.100
Iraqis were, were retraining their pilots there to, to bring back commercial, uh, aircraft in and out
00:30:52.000
of, uh, Baghdad. So I said, I immediately sent that to the, you know, to the Pentagon that I had
00:30:58.380
run into that. And then they immediately said the secretary of state, uh, said that I was now
00:31:04.840
in responsible of running that lead down. So I started working on that while other people were
00:31:09.760
running, were running out of the DIAC building. Cause we were literally right across the river
00:31:13.080
from the, from the Pentagon at the DIAC at Bowling air force base. So, but, but otherwise I had no clue.
00:31:19.260
And I just, and we all felt horrible, just horrified and ashamed that we were not able to do something
00:31:27.200
about that. But yes, I, I have some concerns, especially number seven, that building I, to this
00:31:34.640
day, I, no one's giving me a good explanation as how that happened. Yeah. The reason I bring it up
00:31:39.160
is because, like I said, I, you know, I had friends who lost family members and if it was something that
00:31:43.320
was done by, uh, I won't say us, but we knew it was going to happen. Um, you know, George Bush owes,
00:31:50.140
uh, you know, 3000 family members, uh, justice for what went on. And I mean, obviously just past
00:31:57.840
the anniversary of, of 9, 11, 23rd anniversary passing. And, uh, not long ago, the Saudis cutting
00:32:03.260
a deal, cutting a deal with the Saudis, the guys who were responsible for this whole entire thing.
00:32:07.820
Uh, when I'm getting too far into the weeds here, I want you to tell the audience, if you will,
00:32:12.440
because you really came to the spotlight after 9, 11 of things that you'd saw were going on
00:32:17.980
as a result of 9, 11, tell the audience for all those who don't know your background and why
00:32:24.620
you came to light after 9, 11 and what you ultimately decided to change your life with blowing
00:32:30.300
the whistle on. What all came down to, you know, I was involved in, and basically bringing,
00:32:36.600
bringing the, the big strategic level of capabilities we had and, and honing it down to
00:32:41.940
be able to try to hunt down terrorists and, and, and, and look for the people that were responsible
00:32:46.380
for 9, 11. At that point, we were in Afghanistan. And an interesting side note is very soon after that,
00:32:53.900
we had Osama bin Laden at Tora Bora. We had him there, we had him trapped and we,
00:32:59.640
in the Intel business, we were begging, begging president Trump. I mean, president Bush, W Bush
00:33:05.360
to please send in the 82nd or 101st airborne to the backside of that mountain, because we knew it
00:33:10.080
was porous and we didn't want them to get away and just go in there and kill every living thing in
00:33:15.380
that mountain. And he would not do it. And at the time I was just baffled. I'm like, we've got them
00:33:21.920
and we're going to let them go. And why? And then I realized it was all about the money because
00:33:26.040
they wanted a war, they wanted to spend billions of dollars so that the war pig, you know, war
00:33:31.460
monsters, uh, like Dick Cheney, Darth Cheney would be able to make, you know, a whole heap
00:33:36.820
of money and it's expensive, a whole lot of people dying. And, and that's, uh, as far as
00:33:43.620
that was put a real bad taste in my mouth. And then ultimately with the Patriot Act, then
00:33:49.760
came the, the, the government and ultimately NSA spying on, on all, all domestic communications
00:33:56.220
within the United States. I first, I first found that out with the satellite capabilities.
00:34:00.720
Then ultimately I talked to some of my colleagues at NSA who worked the terrestrial angle, which
00:34:06.540
is basically fiber optics. And they, that we found out that it was everything. It was, it
00:34:12.060
wasn't just somebody calling overseas. It was every communication back then. It was just
00:34:17.380
the, uh, the, the metadata, but you know, once, once they got everything back on order,
00:34:22.480
as far as the ability to, uh, to store it and analyze it and the electricity to run it,
00:34:27.580
then come 2000, the December of 2012 is when NSA had the capability and started literally
00:34:35.020
collecting every communication in this country, word for word. So people don't realize, I think
00:34:42.340
the guts it takes for someone to be a whistleblower. Russ's life has been turned upside down.
00:34:45.820
Some of the stories Russ has told me, um, you know, obviously nothing confidential, but his time
00:34:50.700
of how he was targeted after and, and everything the government did to him claiming him is crazy
00:34:57.220
because he came out and just didn't, couldn't stomach to see what was going on to Americans.
00:35:02.460
The innocent Americans were being spied upon. And some people will say, well, I don't care.
00:35:06.420
You know, they're spying. I mean, I've got nothing to hide. And if they catch a, you know,
00:35:10.340
a terrorist in the act and, uh, you know, that's not the way we should be thinking because,
00:35:14.280
you know, we have our rights here in America and, uh, for the U S government to be infringing
00:35:18.500
upon them, you know, obviously didn't sit right in Russ's stomach. And, uh, you know,
00:35:22.940
it took a lot of bravery for Russ to do what he did. And I think, uh, you know, you paid the price.
00:35:27.740
Is that right, Russ? Oh, I certainly did. They basically destroyed my entire entire career,
00:35:32.560
my ability to work in my trade, you know, in the business. So yeah, I paid a price. All right.
00:35:38.740
Uh, for being a brave American, huh? But, uh, and, and here's the interesting thing that people,
00:35:43.560
and I wish Congress would hear what I'm about to say, because apparently they don't believe it.
00:35:48.160
And I've heard even, even some of the, the, the top notch people in Congress seems to think that
00:35:54.240
there are whistleblower protections. Well, there are only for people that aren't intelligence officers
00:35:58.960
or even FBI agents. We have zero protection because they are exempt from all the whistleblower
00:36:05.020
protection laws. They're exempt from everything. And when I first made a complaint, the very first
00:36:10.040
paragraph that NSA put, their lawyers put, and then the paperwork was, we are exempt from all
00:36:15.840
whistleblower laws that we don't care what Mr. Tice says about any, about any retribution,
00:36:20.720
we are exempt. And, you know, and then, and of course I didn't know that. And, and I found out
00:36:26.120
very quickly, they were right. Uh, to this day, if you were, if you want to go in the, all the
00:36:33.400
youngsters out there that are being recruited by, by NSA or CIA or, or whoever, or the, or think
00:36:40.860
they're going to go into the military services and the intelligence field, you have zero protection
00:36:45.960
against a whistleblower, uh, for, as for whistleblower laws, zero, they can come down on your
00:36:52.580
head and with, with as much gusto as they want. And, and they have no problem doing it and they
00:36:58.780
will destroy you. And in my case, they tried to make sure that I sounded like I was crazy because
00:37:04.180
they didn't want me going to the press because even, even some of the folks that I went to in the
00:37:08.060
press, they said, Oh, the, the, uh, NSA called our law office and said, do you really want your
00:37:13.240
source to be some guy who's a whack job? Right. So they thought about that the way they did it.
00:37:19.040
Um, and therefore the longest time until, until Edward Snowden, right. Um, it was always a
00:37:25.280
circumspect as to, Oh my gosh, you know, maybe this guy's a whack job, you know, you know, can we
00:37:29.740
really have him and you do an interview? Uh, thank goodness for Mr. Snowden because he used NSA's own
00:37:35.540
documentation to prove what I had said many years previous. Right. And the, and the deep state in the
00:37:41.060
U S government and all these bureaucrats and, uh, war hawks will tell you, well, what Russ did was,
00:37:47.200
you know, it compromised national security because, uh, you know, it might've prevented a terrorist
00:37:51.620
attack. It's, it's all a bunch of nonsense. Uh, the people you're looking for overseas, not here at
00:37:56.480
home, uh, in most cases. Uh, and I, you know, as we've seen now over, you know, the course of the
00:38:01.940
last few years, uh, even presented with a threat, the FBI turns their, you know, their blind eye to it.
00:38:07.480
So at this point, what difference does it really make? Russ, I want to take one more quick break
00:38:11.840
and we're going to come back here and wrap up. Hillary Clinton's back in the news again,
00:38:16.520
running her big mouth on the other side of this break. We're going to tell you what she's saying.
00:38:20.460
Stay with us. We're coming right back. We're talking with Russ Tice, former senior NSA,
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We're back. We're talking with former senior NSA intel analyst Russ Tice. Russ, Hillary Clinton,
00:40:20.280
not even 24 hours after the second assassin was caught on President Trump, had this to say on a
00:40:28.440
safe haven of Rachel Maddow's MSNBC. Take a listen. You know, journalists should, you know, really try to
00:40:35.580
achieve objectivity. And by that, he said, I mean, they should cover the object. Well, the object in
00:40:41.440
this case is Donald Trump, his demagoguery, his danger to our country and the world and stick
00:40:50.020
with it. You know, they were merciless about what they saw as President Biden's, you know,
00:41:02.260
Can you believe it? Hillary Clinton, less than 24 hours. A woman has no class. I think it's Joe
00:41:09.820
Biden says that she's got the class of an alley cat that Donald Trump is to blame for this and not
00:41:16.160
these lunatics who have Trump derangement syndrome. Your thoughts on that? Well, this is the same woman
00:41:24.300
who set up a classified server in her own what in the bathroom closet or something of that nature
00:41:31.420
there in her home in New York to make sure that none of her communications could be put on in
00:41:40.100
the classification as official U.S. government, you know, a preview for for posterity and ultimately
00:41:46.960
for a for a FOIA claim. Right. Yeah. She she should have gone to jail for that.
00:41:55.760
There's there's a case. James Tommy said the same exact thing.
00:41:58.480
And, you know, just look up the case of Ken Ford. If you think this never happens,
00:42:03.980
I know a guy at NSA who went to jail for five, four or five years for having just a few
00:42:10.080
classified, supposed classified documents in his home when he was transferring from
00:42:15.000
government to a private industry. And they threw him in jail real quick. And this what Hillary did was
00:42:21.740
by far so much worse than that, as well as Vice President Biden and what he did and Senator,
00:42:30.380
all the documents, the classified documents that he filed stole. So so this woman should have gone
00:42:37.680
to jail. And President Trump decided to let her off the hook. Right. He was president. So and here she is.
00:42:47.180
And then, of course, she's the she's the the catalyst for the the steel document and the and
00:42:53.860
and and the whole Russia, Russia, Russia. And there's all all this nonsense all came for her in the DNC.
00:43:00.740
And and even after, you know, Trump let her off the hook. And you're right. You know, there's
00:43:08.020
as far as integrity, this woman has zero. And she, you know, I think the wicked witch of the West
00:43:18.000
has a lot of lessons to be learned from Hillary Clinton. You know, to Trump's demise, Trump's
00:43:23.840
actually for anyone who hasn't met him, most people haven't. He's actually a good person. He's got a big
00:43:28.600
heart. You know, anything you say to him, he remembers. You know, anytime I see him asks about
00:43:34.160
the family and things like that. And he actually genuinely cares. And I think after the 2016 election,
00:43:39.420
it was a hard fought one. I think he actually wanted the dust to settle and for Hillary Clinton
00:43:44.040
and him to end amicably and not go after because it does set a dangerous precedent, regardless of
00:43:49.720
she's probably the biggest criminal, maybe second to Joe Biden that we've seen running or family
00:43:55.280
running this country, you know, in this century. But I think Trump, you know, you know, I don't
00:44:02.560
know where I stand on it. If he should have went after, I think now in hindsight, which is, of course,
00:44:07.140
2020, I, you know, should have. Like I said, I see his point on where he wanted the country to settle
00:44:12.860
down and just end. But now, I mean, the gloves are off with these people. And look what the Marxist
00:44:17.920
Dems are doing to President Trump. So I think second time around, he said it that, you know, any of these
00:44:22.820
people who are undermining democracy and doing all these criminal acts and going after him,
00:44:27.180
they should pay the price and they should. I mean, millions of dollars spent resources
00:44:30.920
to witch hunts and investigations against President Trump. You know, we're in another
00:44:36.720
election now. It's many years past, almost eight years past since 2016, where we heard Russia,
00:44:41.740
Russia, Russia. Of course, Hillary Clinton can't get it out of her head because, you know,
00:44:45.740
she may be a stooge of Russia. Take a listen to her calling on Americans to be criminally prosecuted
00:44:54.280
for having anything to do with Russia, saying anything nice about Russia.
00:44:58.640
Just as Mueller indicted a lot of Russians who were engaged in direct election interference and
00:45:07.080
boosting Trump back in 2016. But I also think there are Americans who are engaged in this kind of
00:45:15.480
propaganda and whether they should be civilly or even in some cases criminally charged is something
00:45:23.060
that would be a better deterrence because. So I think she's referring to those Russians who were
00:45:31.480
indicted just a few weeks ago for putting out TikTok videos, but now it's going as far as
00:45:36.480
coming after Americans, I guess, for saying anything positive about Russia. I mean,
00:45:41.560
what is their deal with Russia? What is the Democrats deal with Russia? I mean,
00:45:44.900
do they have some sort of secret deal that we don't know about?
00:45:49.980
That's a good question. You know, did, did, was Hillary Clinton involved in selling a whole lot of
00:45:54.640
nuclear material for making, for enrichment, for nuclear weapons of our own uranium? You know,
00:46:05.520
so as far as I know, President Putin has, has, has basically endorsed, endorsed her. And then,
00:46:12.960
now he's endorsing Vice President Kamala Harris. So I'm not sure, you know, where this dogma is coming
00:46:23.620
from. But, but remember, we got to be careful because she's allowed to launch those Praetorian
00:46:28.660
flying monkeys. I'm, I'm looking at your background if I've seen them flying through your window there.
00:46:33.120
Well, you know what, you know what happened to Seth Rich when he, you know, he did something that they
00:46:38.360
weren't too happy about the, maybe one of those flying monkeys had a pistol in his hand.
00:46:43.360
You can't talk about Seth Rich, you know, God rest his soul, Lou, greatest boss I've ever worked for.
00:46:49.660
Um, you know, wanted to look into Seth Rich because he thought there were things that just were
00:46:54.640
not consistent, like a man, uh, face down with a bullet in the back of his head and nothing stolen
00:47:00.100
from him. And, uh, you know, him and Fox news got sued for it, of course. And the family,
00:47:04.880
which I think was, uh, I, you know, I don't, I won't say anything about the family, but, um,
00:47:11.020
the family cared more about getting money out of Fox news than worrying about what really happened to
00:47:15.960
their son. Um, you know, I'd hope my parents, if God forbid that whatever happened to me would not
00:47:22.340
take the same approach and would like to, you know, figure out what exactly happened, but you
00:47:26.620
know, there's a lot of things and a really good, my attorney actually, Ty Clevenger, really smart guy
00:47:31.020
has been going after the FBI for years for Seth Rich's laptop. They've confirmed that the laptop
00:47:36.200
exists and they say it doesn't exist. Then they say it existed. There's a copy of it. A judge ordered
00:47:41.540
the FBI to turn over that laptop to tie. Uh, now I think it's a year later, still hasn't got it
00:47:47.520
turned over from the FBI. So, you know, the corruption and everything that goes on in this
00:47:52.640
country with the, with the federal agencies. Um, I want to turn to Ron DeSantis, who, you know,
00:47:58.740
after a rough primary with president Trump, I think has made his amends with him and is, uh,
00:48:03.480
now going to be on the right side of history with, with all of MAGA announcing today, uh, this week
00:48:09.880
that he has assigned the assassination attempt case to his statewide prosecutor, Ashley Moody
00:48:15.400
saying quote, in my judgment, it's in the best interest of our state of our nation that they
00:48:20.600
don't have the same federal agencies that are seeking to prosecute Donald Trump leading this
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investigation, especially when the most serious, straightforward offenses constitutes a violation
00:48:28.500
of state law, but not federal law. What do you think about that? Ron DeSantis, uh, telling the
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deep state, pretty much F you. We're going to handle this because we know what happened in
00:48:39.220
Pennsylvania, or actually I should say, we don't know what happened in Pennsylvania. We do know
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that, uh, we don't know much. Um, you know, we know more about the second shooter in two days
00:48:47.520
than we know about, uh, Matthew Crooks's social media in two months.
00:48:54.120
Well, I believe Seth Rich, I believe that he was, he was killed by, uh, Hillary and company.
00:48:59.180
That's all I believe. Um, you know, the cameras, you know, you know, not once again, cameras,
00:49:05.160
not, uh, functioning properly and all kinds of things disappearing, all kinds of weird things
00:49:09.580
happening. But, um, I think, uh, governor DeSantis is smart enough to know that. I think we've said
00:49:14.800
this before before where I think your quote is the, uh, the FBI is where evidence goes to die.
00:49:20.060
Uh, I I've dealt with the FBI a little bit and, um, you know, everyone seems to think, oh, this is
00:49:26.100
just a few rotten apples at the top, you know, but I'll be honest. I, I, in my opinion, I've only met
00:49:32.720
one FBI agent that I thought was a decent fella and all the rest of them are just, uh, the rot is
00:49:39.140
imbued into the FBI, imbued into the structure. It's a systemic, uh, rot that, that, that, that
00:49:48.000
permeates through the FBI. And as far as I believe the S the FBI needs to be torn asunder. And thank
00:49:55.360
goodness that, uh, the governor DeSantis is going to do something on his own because of what this most
00:50:00.820
recent one happened on his turf. Yeah. You know, I, I had a conversation, uh, maybe a week ago with a
00:50:07.560
former, uh, special agent of the FBI. And, uh, you know, he said, well, I still have friends in the
00:50:12.520
FBI. You know, I don't think the thing is totally corrupt and rot. And I said, well, I disagree with
00:50:16.500
you. I said, you know, everyone's always the rank and file guys, the rank and file guys are good guys.
00:50:21.620
Yeah. I'm sure there are a lot of good ones, but it's the bad ones that make the name for the agency.
00:50:26.660
And if something's going wrong on the seventh floor of the FBI, I alluded to, it's like a skunk.
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If, if a skunk dies on the seventh floor of the FBI, you're going to smell it on the eighth floor.
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You're going to smell it on the ninth floor and you're going to smell it on the fourth and you're
00:50:40.060
going to smell it on the fifth floor. So there are rank and file agents. And now, you know,
00:50:44.300
the things are doing in this country to, um, thwart truth justice in the American way,
00:50:51.140
you know, people are going to hear about it in the FBI. So the whole notion that the rank and
00:50:56.620
file guys aren't the problem, there are rank and file guys there who are bad guys. And you can go
00:51:01.440
ahead and see it day after day, them showing up to people's houses. The gateway pundit does an
00:51:06.920
excellent job at this. They put out, you know, once or twice a week, uh, people recording the FBI
00:51:12.080
showing up their doorstep because of, uh, you know, a pro-life tweet or they said something,
00:51:17.000
but no, they're not showing up to the doors of a, you know, a kid who just shot up a school in,
00:51:20.640
in Georgia killing people or, you know, they're not, uh, showing up at the house of, uh, of this
00:51:26.620
man who came from Hawaii to shoot at president Trump. You know, what is it going to take to get
00:51:31.100
this damn agency dismantled and gone? I mean, Chris Ray is just rotten and rotten and rotten to the
00:51:38.000
core. You know, my question would be if I was a police officer and I witnessed a fellow officer
00:51:43.600
commit a cold-blooded murder and then, and then I said nothing about it. And then someone would say,
00:51:50.360
ultimately, Oh, that was a bad cop that committed that cold-blooded murder. What does it make me
00:51:54.940
as a police officer who said nothing about it? Doesn't that make me a bad cop also? Um, so even
00:52:02.740
though, even the ones that are supposedly, you know, you know, they're, they're just the hands
00:52:07.220
clean or whatever. If they're witnessing this and saying nothing there, they are also bad agents.
00:52:13.760
Yeah. And they are witnessing too, Russ. I mean, like I said, it's a skunk. You smell a skunk from
00:52:18.940
a damn mile away. Uh, you know, I don't know if they're, uh, you may be able to answer this
00:52:25.500
question better than me. I don't know if they're intimidated or they're scared because you know
00:52:30.140
what it's like to face the retribution of, um, and retaliation of the deep state and of the federal
00:52:36.300
government. Do you think it's more of, um, you know, something like that, where these guys are just
00:52:41.340
terrified that the FBI is going to ruin their lives? Uh, and, and, and they want their pension.
00:52:46.960
That's a big part of it because my colleagues at NSA, they, they, you know, uh, the, the big thing
00:52:53.680
there was, they're worried about the, uh, the polygraph and then they realized that figured out
00:52:58.920
how the polygraph is very easy to beat. So they, they all beat the polygraph. Right. And then,
00:53:03.740
you know, they, their argument is at that point, you know, I was, I was delegated the guy to, you
00:53:10.220
know, to, to fight, to put on the armor and go into the dragon's lair to fight the dragon because I
00:53:15.500
was already known and they give me encouragement, but, but they're like, you know, I have a mortgage
00:53:20.480
to pay. I got kids at school or private school, or I've got a parent who needs, you know, you know,
00:53:26.700
special care and all, you know, car payments and all the things that normal people have.
00:53:33.020
And, and then once they realized what happened to me, where, where there is, there's no whistleblower
00:53:38.400
protection. And these guys were literally involved in, in the program that NSA was doing. Remember,
00:53:44.100
I, I found this by accident, sort of on a tertiary level. And then I dug into it later to find out
00:53:50.240
what's going on. These guys were, had their hands right into it. And they, they, they felt that they
00:53:55.620
were duped into it and they, and they, and they felt that they were trapped. I was hoping that as
00:54:02.580
some of them maybe started to retire, that they'd start to come out and stand by my side. And maybe
00:54:06.520
we come on your show and say, this is one of my fellows at NSA that helped me to bring this out,
00:54:13.040
to know what was going on. But John, they're still afraid. It's, you know, there was, there was a
00:54:20.160
senator from, I forget, Alabama or, or Mississippi that a few years ago, he put forth a bill that,
00:54:26.620
that they could come after intelligence officers and strip them of their retirement if they deemed
00:54:32.020
them to be a leaker or something like that, even after they were no longer in the service and they
00:54:37.600
were, they were retired. So these people, you know, it's, it's, I get upset because they're not
00:54:43.520
standing by my side, but I certainly understand why they're concerned. And, you know, people have,
00:54:49.140
you know, responsibilities and, and kids and, and, you know, they need to put food on the table
00:54:53.720
and a roof over the, over their family's heads. And many of them are just running scared and they're
00:54:58.940
afraid. Yeah. And you just proved my point completely about you hearing about tertiary
00:55:03.780
evidence and then digging into it and finding it's the same exact concept with the FBI. It's a skunk.
00:55:09.500
The people above smell it, the people below smell it. And they're just, you know, crap scared about
00:55:15.080
what can happen to them. You know, I used to work for a gentleman who was a former special agent in
00:55:20.380
the FBI. I mean, taking down some of the biggest crimes, the crime families in New York city, the
00:55:26.420
mobs and, you know, wall street, boil room operations. And he told me, he said, you know, it's so funny
00:55:32.080
because you go into the FBI, you're sworn into the FBI and you swear that you'll forever tell the
00:55:37.960
truth. He says, and then the first big obstacle that comes is the, the funding and the budget and
00:55:45.620
how it works is he, and he says, he goes to the FBI. The first thing they teach you is to tell the
00:55:49.620
truth. The second thing they teach you is you have to lie in your first big obstacle and it comes to
00:55:54.380
the budget. So how it works is the FBI submits every year for their budget on what they spend.
00:55:59.180
If they don't spend what they had in the year previously, they lose that. And it gets reallocated
00:56:03.880
to somewhere else in the government. So he said to me, he goes, first thing they do is they teach
00:56:07.060
your light. Everyone has to say that they worked X amount of overtime in order to put it into that
00:56:13.240
budget for next year. So if they're lying, it's something like that. We'll call it a small scale
00:56:17.820
for what's really gone on. They're lying about just about everything. Truly sad. I want to wrap up with
00:56:25.880
what's going on down in Venezuela. The U S says the claims of the CIA plot to kill Maduro are categorically
00:56:33.960
false. After the, uh, the Venezuelans arrest six foreign nationals, I believe four of them are
00:56:39.180
Americans, uh, including one U S Navy seal. Would it be like America to go in and influence,
00:56:45.600
uh, somebody else's elections now, now granted I Maduro lost, uh, according to everything.
00:56:52.200
Right. Uh, but would it be like, uh, America to go in there and take it upon themselves to remove him?
00:56:57.800
Gee, if only there were some evidence that we've done something like that in the past,
00:57:03.060
you know, in the, in the South America, in Greece and all over the world, we we've been doing this
00:57:13.540
or the CIA has been doing this. So in this particular case, do I know whether these guys
00:57:18.300
are CIA operatives or not? I have no clue. Um, but I certainly know that, uh, the CIA has sort of a
00:57:25.400
history of doing that. Now Maduro, you know, he's, he's kind of a, he's a, he's a dirty guy.
00:57:30.820
You can say, yeah, it's all right. It's okay to do against him, but, but what happens when it's a,
00:57:36.820
a duly elected president of Ukraine or a prosecutor and then ultimately push, push, push the new guy
00:57:46.420
who comes in after the coup d'etat to, uh, to, to, to join NATO that causes, Oh gee, what a war
00:57:54.040
that's killed tens of thousands of people, which is what we have right now, because the CIA was the
00:58:00.800
one that went into Ukraine and did that. So it's not like we don't have a history of it.
00:58:06.240
Yeah. And like, we need, uh, another, uh, place to go into and close another war as if, like you
00:58:12.340
said, Ukraine and Russia is not enough or Gaza and Israel is not enough. Uh, we've got China and,
00:58:17.520
uh, the Philippines, China and Taiwan, and you've got China and Russia starting up a joint naval
00:58:23.520
operations this month in the straight, in the, uh, in the Japan, uh, sea of Japan. I mean,
00:58:28.840
like we don't have enough problems going on. And I think the opposition party in Venezuela,
00:58:33.780
the gentleman fled the country because he knows what would happen. But, you know, when we had a
00:58:37.780
rigged election here at home, you didn't hear from anybody else. Everyone accepted it, even though,
00:58:41.540
uh, you know, it hasn't been the best on the world stage. Uh, but yeah, I guess maybe for some,
00:58:46.140
it has with, you know, Paris, the climate accord and, and NATO, uh, you know, us paying in and other
00:58:51.460
countries aren't. Russ, I want to give you the last word here. Uh, your message to the nation is
00:58:55.780
now we're, you know, less than 50 days from an election with everything going on in this country.
00:59:03.420
You know, I would say we need to be, we need to be vigilant for the, for the secret service guys
00:59:09.820
that are out there that are, that are decent guys. They, they need, they, they need to be spinning
00:59:14.580
their head every which way. And, and I think everyone needs to pray for our, our, our former president.
00:59:20.760
And hopefully soon to be president because, uh, the nation really needs them and we, we, we can pray
00:59:26.680
for him and we can pray for the honest security folks that are out there to try and protect him
00:59:31.080
that we can actually get him into office and ultimately clean the stench out of the, out of
00:59:36.760
what, what is the deep state that's kind of controlling things here.
00:59:40.760
Yeah. Your mouth to God's ear. Uh, America needs president Trump. I think now more than ever. And,
00:59:46.120
um, with God watching over him, God willingly, you know, he'll win on November 6th, uh, November 5th,
00:59:51.920
I'm sorry, unscathed and, uh, unhurt by everything that's going on to him. Rush, you're a great
00:59:56.880
American. We appreciate everything you do for this country and have done for this country. Thanks so
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