The Great America Sunday Show： September 8, 2024
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In this episode of the Great Americana Show, former U.S. Assistant Attorney General and Senior Fellow at the Center for Renewing Americana, Jeff Clark, joins us to discuss the latest school shooting in Georgia and the FBI's failure to catch another school shooter.
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hello everybody and welcome to the great america show it's great to have you with us i want to
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apologize for being mia the last couple of days i'm probably one of the only fools to catch a
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nasty cold at the end of the summer with that being said i woke up this morning and said let's
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push through there's a lot of news to talk about that transpired over the last few days
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a school shooting in georgia in which the fbi met with the shooter just last year
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in may of 2023 the fbi's national threat operation center received several anonymous
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tips about online threats to commit school shooting at an unidentified location and an
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unidentified time the online threats contain photographs of guns within 24 hours the fbi
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determined the online post originated in georgia and the fbi atlanta field office referred the
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information to the jackson county sheriff's office for action the jackson county sheriff's office
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located a possible 13 year old subject and interviewed him and his father the father
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stated that he had guns in the house but the son had no unsupervised access to them
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his son denied also making any threats online jackson county alerted local schools and continued
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monitoring for this child lo and behold the 14 year old colt gray followed up on his threats this
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week taking the lives of two fellow students and two teachers the suspect was arrested and now is
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charged with the felony murder we pray for those families affected by this sick individual
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among some other things happening this week hunter biden has decided he will plead guilty
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in his california tax fraud case the guilty plea just comes just in time for his father to pardon him
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before leaving office it also saves the biden family the embarrassment of going through with
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discovery process who knows what payments we might have found that went to joe biden and special
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counsel jack smith back in dc court this week to file his latest indictment against president trump
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in the new twist in the federal election interference case against president trump
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special counsel jack smith has submitted a mystery document hidden from the public and hidden from
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trump's lawyers i can only imagine what the document title quote government classified ex parte end quote
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includes and why it wasn't presented in the first indictment against trump jack smith gets more and
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more foolish as the days go on and i think he's finally realized his run is up to take all this up and
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much more our guest today is jeff clark he's a former u.s assistant attorney general and he's a senior
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fellow at the center for renewing america jeff it's great to have you with us i want to start with
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first the fbi missing another school shooter i want to go through some instances dating back to 2013
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um the authorities knew in the boston marathon uh bombing three people killed san bernardino 16 killed
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the fbi knew about it pulse nightclub 2016 the fbi knew about it uh 49 people killed the list goes on
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and on down to parkland florida boulder colorado buffalo up until 2022 how does the fbi keep
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missing things like this i mean where is their focus right now where should it be where should it be
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well john it's good to be here although obviously it's uh on the the sad occasion for me of my first
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appearance on the the great america show since the passing of lou dobbs and so you know god rest his soul
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uh but i'm glad to join you i think that the fbi has a major woke uh agenda problem and this causes
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them to misallocate resources john and to focus on the wrong problems so you know they get a report
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like you described uh you know happened in georgia and they go and they you know do a kind of
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perfunctory check-in you know they hear the right things of well you know you didn't really threaten
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or at least he denies it and then the father says well he doesn't have access to guns and you know
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they issue some warnings and away they go you know i think the fact that the uh they knew the pulse
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nightclub shooter i remember the day that happened you know being uh i think a sunday uh and i had some
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people over the house and just you know just my floor my my jaw hit the floor on that and then
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the uh the parkland shooter the fact that they knew about him and that you know i think really is an
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instance of the woke agenda in the sense of as is i think pulse nightclub right so you know there's the
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whole lgbtq etc angle for pulse nightclub and the fact that uh you know he uh was uh you know muslim
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individual and then for parkland you have the fact that uh you know he he didn't seem to kind of fit
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into the white community let's put it that way and so uh you know the the fbi seems to like want
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to give a break to people so that they're not perceived as discriminating against the people on
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the basis of race or their sexual orientation when in reality what they should be doing is
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prioritizing uh threats and risks based on the objective data about that and so you know they're
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clearly doing something wrong when they can't head these things off at the pass and they're not
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heading them off at the pass instead this week john what we got was another russia russia russia
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uh indictment just in time for the 2024 election you know it's it's magical how these things appear
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isn't it john yep you know the thing that's i do want to get to the russia collusion 2.0 just in time
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like you said for the election but the thing that's so alarming to me is we have this fbi that's so
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i mean full force to come get you out of your house in the middle of the night not even like put a
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pair of pants or shorts on going to get roger stone an elderly man with an elderly wife who's deaf
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showing up at your doorsteps or or the catholic faith leaders the christian faith leaders the
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people who protest against planned parenthood they're so fat january six people some who
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weren't even at the capitol had nothing to do with it but had association with people who did
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they're so fast to come to their doors and bang on their doors like they're some sort of tough guy
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gangsters well of course you are there's 10 or 15 or 20 you guys you guys all have loaded machine guns
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are ready to go but when it comes time to people like this child who i just saw on twitter his aunt
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posted out that he was screaming for help for months and years that you know he was not all there and
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that this was going to happen for god's sakes the fbi met with a kid um his family who who said he was
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going to do this and then follow through your thoughts i mean with their direction you know the fbi's
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direction so worried on people like you people like roger stone people at january 6 people who
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just wanted a free and fair election where all of a sudden now the criminals and these people are
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just oh you know they're just victims and they uh we should have more gun control well john i don't
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think that the current crop of people who are uh at the fbi and their political leadership really believe
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in the first amendment that's why we have individuals like elvis chang going and essentially
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pressuring the big tech companies to to censor uh in connection with the 2020 election we know that
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zuckerberg has admitted that uh we know from the hashtag twitter files how much censorship the government
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participated in we got a disappointing case out of the supreme court about that but that case is still uh
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still live you know may make a return to the supreme court the justices may see it differently once it's
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in a more advanced to a final judgment procedural posture um but i do as i started with john i think
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that wokeism is a key element of this and i'll tell you that uh last year uh in march or so i gave a series
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of lectures in hungary about u.s constitutional law and i was returning i was at the airport with uh two of my
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children and it was an early morning flight uh from budapest to london and then the connecting
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flight from london uh into the dc area but on the in the airport in hungary there was a woman who was
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you know interning in some multinational capacity for the summer in europe but she was talking about
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the fact that basically she had an offer to go work for the fbi and just the kinds of things she was
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talking about her whole affect uh you could get a sense of like what her values and priorities were i mean
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someone like that listening to them like involuntarily because she was speaking so loud uh at you know
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like six in the morning in the in the airport you know like just the kind of person i would never want
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to have near federal law enforcement and you know this kind of person who's just not going to approach
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prioritizing stopping real crime as opposed to going after political enemies that she's been taught
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from her college days are the real foes of america and are going to lead to extremism and authoritarianism
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they're not just people who disagree with her politically yeah you had mentioned woke a bunch
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of times and coincidentally the the pulse nightclub shooting which was at a gay nightclub in orlando
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also happening in orlando and this is the this is the way this country is going folks it's really sad
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the secret services office of equity diversion and inclusion is requesting that agents attend an
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lgbtq plus out an equal workplace summit at disney world from october 7th october 10th now we know that
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the secret service is understaffed and undermanned to begin with president trump was nearly assassinated
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uh just a few months ago we still don't know anything about that coincidentally but you have the secret
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service now there's reports that the u.s military has actually had to step in and sort of fill in the
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gaps of where the where the u.s secret service can't cover their own rear ends yet we have a gay summit
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in orlando a three-day summit to make people feel good i mean what is going on in this country jeff
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it's just ridiculous john i mean there shouldn't be an event like this at the uh secret service and it's
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certainly not uh an event that you could say has anything to do with equality right when was the
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last time you heard uh a federal law enforcement agency or protective agency like the secret service
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having a sort of like hey it's heterosexual day or it's find your you know future wife or husband day
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none of that exists right why is there a special you know mafia essentially for these kinds of things
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why are the taxpayers being forced to spend money for this ridiculousness and it clearly shows that
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their focus is on ridiculous social engineering things and not on their actual mission which as we
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know right going back for a very long time has been focused on two things protecting the president
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other dignitaries former presidents vice presidents candidates uh for the presidency etc and on protecting us
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uh against counterfeiting right and so these things are uh you know their their mission they're not
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focused on their mission like having some time off at disneyland you know for an lgbtq event i mean that
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there's they they should be sued at some level into prostration over the fact that they're wasting
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taxpayer money doing these kinds of ridiculous things right and i think we can agree on one thing nobody
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cares if you're gay or straight or whatever it is but stop pushing it down the throats of people who
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want nothing to do with it i mean it's a federal agency that gets federal funding i i mean it's truly
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alarming to me it's really unbelievable i mean we saw when president trump was almost assassinated the
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female a secret service agent was probably five foot seven president trump i think is six foot four
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trying to holster her gun and cover president trump you had another agent who was like kneeling down below
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the stage because she was terrified of maybe getting shot i mean these people take a sworn oath that when
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they when they you know take over their jobs as secret service and that they'll die for the
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president of the united states and you saw that it was unbelievable yeah i mean the agents around the
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president uh on the podium who you know got him low and then he you know kind of disputed with them so
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he could rise up and and signal to america and to the crowd that that he was okay and to say fight fight
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fight right i think and they they you know they they did after you know he kind of uh pushed back
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against that they got him off you know uh maybe they could have done a little quicker but i mean
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you know it's hard to fault that in the confusion and the chaos of the moment but what you're describing
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i mean it was like keystone cops and it's clear they have you know too many diversity hires because
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the former head cheetel of the secret service prioritized that again it's the kind of woman i
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described to you from you know is going to go work at the fbi that's the kind of priorities that that
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young woman had and then she grows up to become you know someone like cheeto you know deeper and
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deeper into the organization and what do we get we get a total security breakdown and the loss you
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know near loss of president trump jeff i got an idea why don't we from now on any government any
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college applicant any job why don't we black out the names of these people white out there black out
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their their race or any everything and why don't we just get to their job description who these people
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are and i think we'll see a big change in how things are going um we're going to take a quick
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break here you mentioned russian collusion 2.0 i want to take that up on the other side of this break
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also jack smith is acting up again we're going to take that up with jeff clark we're coming right back
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stay with us we're back we're talking with jeff clark and jeff right before we went to break there
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you had mentioned russia collusion it's back the department of justice charging two russian media operatives
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and what they call an alleged money laundering scheme with russian television is this uh good
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luck on the justice department i mean do they just keep getting it right as we have an election just
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you know two months away perhaps well they're getting it right from the perspective of trying
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to help kamala harris get elected that's for sure because it totally re-ripens you know it's the kind
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of thing where msnbc is over the moon and they're you know they're analysts they're what i call their
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journal lawfare commentators uh and they're uh you know big helming personalities stop you right
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they're idiots they're idiots well i'm sorry yeah but they they just love the russia thing every time
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they can say trump's in bed with russia people around trump are in bed with russia like they just
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can't help themselves like i it's like they they have you know fears of putting the boogeyman under
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their bed it this this the timing of this it reminds me of the fact that the you know whole russia
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collusion thing started to fall apart and then i remember that rod rosenstein uh announced indictments
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of some russians you know there were like small relatively small amounts of money like the election
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in america could be moved by a couple hundred thousand dollars of you know online trolling activity
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from you know folks tied to russia and you know they sued them and then they're they're not even
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in the u.s so it was just basically like an aspirational indictment but it helped to sort of
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you know of course it's covered breathlessly on the msnbcs of the world this feels exactly like that to me
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now whether some of the participants like you know a lot of uh fire today being directed at lauren chen
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uh you know for really being a potential willing participant in this with these you know russian
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straw people um i you know i the facts i think we're gonna have to see wait and see how they come
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out but uh you know i i think that that this is a situation where they wanted to drop this indictment
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right before the election so they can have another fest of russia russia 2.0 russia gate 3.0 and i think
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that they dropped the indictment against this linda soon person in new york who worked for both cuomo
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and governor hochel right before this so that they could say and have some cover of the idea that
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well we're like we're equal opportunity right like this is someone who was tied to the democrats
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working for the chinese but first of all that case is a lot worse than than you know kind of first
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amendment type activities and second of all like you know their main focus and what they're you know
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they have uh garland you know start speaking about inside his conference room on the fifth floor of
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the justice department that i've been in many times you know that's all focused on the trump's
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anything tied to trump and this you know new uh russia gate 3.0 set of allegations you know it's
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funny you say that um because anyone who goes there speaks out about the bite just before we got on here
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the the police commissioner of new york's house was rated as part of a corruption scheme against mayor
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adams um he's being investigated now for the last few months of people around him
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um chen was obviously really in in coerce with with cuomo but it seems like anyone who's attempts
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to speak out against this regime whether it be harris or biden they pay the price for it
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i mean is this does the left have a deep state too well i think the deep state is is largely the left
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uh there's on the right side you're the republicans rod rosenstein obviously a republican christopher
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ray um james comey whatever you want to call them whether they're republicans or not but usually the
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deep state goes after republicans now it seems the deep state is going after democrats well i think
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yeah they go after anyone who threatens you know uniparty power really and eric adams made the mistake
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of coming up above the waterline and starting to talk about how he's frustrated with the federal
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government shipping in all the illegal aliens and so then magically all of his times of trouble and
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those around him start so they're you know they're sending a message to him like no no no you don't
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you're a democrat you play ball with us you don't uh start raising issues with our big policy decisions
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like open borders you know that's the biden and harris uh you know pretty baby although now harris is
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trying to run away from it and claim that she's the border czar who uh built the wall which is a total lie
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yeah it's unbelievable just going back real quick to the to the russia collusion again
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you brought up a really good point making a few videos i mean if you read through the indictment
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it was literally so stupid these people were paid to make tiktok videos and short online videos
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and that all of a sudden is going to sway an election no i'll tell you what's going to sway
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an election what's going to sway an election is jack smith indicting president trump a hundred times
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uh bringing out this fake russia collusion crap 30 days before an election i mean when are these
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people going to wake up and realize jeff what's really going on here right well look what uh you
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know was happening like i described that uh rosenstein led indictment at a press conference he
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did on the sixth floor of doj another place i've also spent a lot of time and you know that that was
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totally overblown right but then if you uh fast forward to 2020 or really to 2021 because the public
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version of the report from the intelligence community about foreign election interference
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in 2020 was not issued until 2021 it you know there was a majority view and then there were dissenting views
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essentially from an ombudsman and from dni head uh john radcliffe and they uh you know essentially the
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majority view was well you know they're they're spending some amounts of money you know china and uh
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and iran and turkey but uh you know it's not enough really to impact the election like nothing to see
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here so but what the dissent essentially argued from radcliffe was this is the same rough activity
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that that you were throwing up all over before when it was supposedly happening to benefit trump
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but now that it's happening to benefit joe biden you know it's magically a nothing burger like there's
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no logical consistency to it yeah that seems to be the double standard i mean we've seen for the last
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since nine years we'll say since 2015 since trump came down that escalator it's just unbelievable for
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whatever it's worth vladimir putin offering an endorsement of kamala harris uh when all that stuff
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came out because it's a joke i mean jeff these these world leaders whether it be xi jinping or
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vladimir putin they look at what's going on in this country right now and there's a reason why
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putin went into ukraine um or crimea years ago i mean they know what they get away with it's a
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reason why xi jinping does whatever he wants sends millions and millions and millions of dollars in
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fentanyl uh through our southern border every year there's a reason that they're doing all these
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things it's because they get away with it for kamala harris to come in here and say well things are
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going to change well why didn't they change you know if things were so bad under trump why did they
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change on january 20th of 2021 when you idiots took office we're going to take a quick break here when we
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come back the doj caught admitting on camera just how corrupt they really are we're going to take up
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jack smith as well we're talking with jeff clark we're coming right back stay with us
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we're back we're talking with jeff clark and jeff before we went to break i tease that the doj
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caught admitting that they their trump derangement syndrome is worse than ever nicholas biasi is the
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chief of public affairs for the doj in the southern district of new york caught with stephen crowder
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one of stephen crowder's people on camera admitting this take a listen folks
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felonies did nothing to stop trump from running
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no in fact they made him more relevant did that backfire
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um they're just out to get them that's why i'd like the surgeon
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you know who's stacking charges and like rearranging things just to make a good case
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no to be honest with you i think the case is nonsense
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they're like idiots they don't care they're all political
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so yeah this guy's probably going to try to lock them up
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and there is going to be it's going to be ugly for them
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who i've known for 15 years who used to work in my office
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before he decided to prosecute trump did you know who he was
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i'm not sure what he wants to be but i know he's not happy
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every real estate person in new york does what he did
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jeff so they're saying the silent part out loud which we've known now for years
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how corrupt new york is how corrupt this department of justice is
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i'll tell you and everyone talks about it like a joke
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i'll tell you what's not a joke is the 34 counts of falsifying business records against president trump
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the 40 counts related to mishandling classified documents against president trump
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the four charges of attempting to overturn the 2020 election
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the 10 charges of election interference in georgia
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that these people have such a vendetta against a man
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has only done good for the city and state of new york
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well he threatens president trump threatens a power structure that they benefit from
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and they're willing to use any underhanded tactic
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any form of lawfare they can in order to stop him from
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like the reality is the president is the chief of the executive branch john
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and you know the attorney general is an intermediary
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in between him and the southern district of new york's u.s attorney
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you know subordinate but they don't see it themselves that way
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inside the justice department if you've been in it like i have
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you know the joking term used for the southern district of new york
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because they think they're so powerful and so above it all
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so here you have this guy you know bease on you know a sting uh camera operation
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and you know he's uh you know talking to this woman
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and he's saying well you know yeah i've known alvin bragg for 15 years
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he brought these charges uh you know it's all political
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it's perversion of justice etc of course that this is clearly
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he's just letting you know the uh the the dress down
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right i mean this guy should be fired faster than your head can spin
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right yeah let me just read that for the audience real quick
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this is the statement from the southern district of new york chief
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nick biasi quote i was recently made aware of a video
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where i regretfully made some statements in a private and social setting
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that don't reflect my views about two local and state prosecutions
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i said these things in an effort to please and impress someone i just met
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i am deeply sorry to local and state and for law enforcement officials
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working on these matters who deserve more respect than i'd show them
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at what point does i'm sorry just not cut it anymore
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we were talking before and this guy i was trying to impress a girl what are we
00:25:33.780
in eighth grade here and you know i'm sorry well you know are you sorry to
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president trump are you sorry to jeffrey clark are you sorry to roger stone
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these people have spent not everyone has money like president trump to shell out
00:25:45.560
a million and i assume your your legal fees are well over into the millions
00:25:49.360
and i'm sorry that just doesn't cut it anymore jeff
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i know it doesn't and look you know why are they protecting this guy at some level right
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because clearly they went to him and they said you know he shouldn't have said this
00:26:04.760
and the democrats are running the southern district of new york at this point you would
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think he at that point had become a liability and they cut him loose
00:26:11.880
so no like they're they're so drunk on their own power
00:26:15.340
john that they think they can keep this guy even though this embarrassing admissions
00:26:19.900
have come out right before uh juan mershon the judge in the manhattan case that alvin
00:26:25.540
bragg brought you know is about to try to sentence
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donald trump on september 18th yeah you know it's it's truly it's sad and
00:26:33.840
it's not just you know new york it's not just dc it's it's everywhere it's all
00:26:38.620
across this country it's down in georgia if you i don't know for anyone who's seen
00:26:41.540
fanny willis's uh i don't know what was her niece get pulled over with a suspended
00:26:45.420
license she shows up to see what yeah her daughter shows up to the scene when
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nathan wade the lover that she said she was no longer with i mean
00:26:51.980
it's it's truly scary you said juan mershon the america first legal is suing
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new york state ethics to commission for illegally concealing judge mershon's
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financial disclosures why would new york be hiding the
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financial disclosures of a judge these people are supposed to be
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i mean we'll we'll say that in air quotes right because
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really hasn't shown that but these people are supposed to be as clean as
00:27:18.400
as a whistle we know juan mershon's daughter made raised millions and
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millions of dollars almost 100 million dollars for democrats off the trump case
00:27:25.440
made eight million dollars off the harris campaign
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why is the new york ethics commission why are they so
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um set on protecting juan mershon what's in those records that he's hiding
00:27:36.980
it's got to be something that's being hidden john and that's why they won't let
00:27:40.840
them out look at the what's the whole theory of having these uh financial and
00:27:49.180
point of them is that the litigants who find themselves assigned
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that particular judge can then go look and see hey
00:27:56.580
oh i'm x corporation he has right stock or he has stock in my competitor right so
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that you can assess whether to move for accusal right and uh so this helps keep
00:28:08.300
the judges honest too if they know that that information is publicly available
00:28:11.740
look you know like what stocks uh uh you know they're they're everyone sort of
00:28:17.180
knows like which uh companies samuel alito the justice of the associate
00:28:21.920
justice of the supreme court has and you know you'll just see he routinely
00:28:25.580
recuses from cases like if those corporations come before the court
00:28:28.980
that's what should be happening with judge mershon instead you know he got this
00:28:33.320
protective decision which really makes no sense that his daughter
00:28:36.660
can make millions uh and even receive the money like at her private home she's
00:28:41.780
she wasn't directing the funds to like her business address like why are the funds
00:28:45.900
you know for her political contracts being directed to her house
00:28:49.320
uh you know it's it really smells bad and i don't think he should be allowed to
00:28:54.460
preside over this trial but you know he's still chugging along and the new york
00:28:58.000
authorities are protecting him yeah and when you look at one mershan's daughter
00:29:01.580
it's a young girl who's got no political background to be making that much money in
00:29:05.920
this i've been in politics a long time i mean right after college the money
00:29:10.280
doesn't flow like that to people who just you know come out of college and just
00:29:13.740
got a job it it takes years and years and years of working on capitol hill and
00:29:17.600
doing this and x and y and you you walk through the ladder in the hoops and you
00:29:20.560
may eventually make it for her to be paid eight million dollars from the harris
00:29:23.320
campaign as a kid i'll take a job tomorrow it's it's truly sad that that this
00:29:28.540
is what it's come to and why it's it's you know so much to ask for our judges to just
00:29:33.780
be honest and just be clean i mean it's it's worse i think we're in in america
00:29:39.040
than it is in cuba and then venezuela and china and south and north korea we laugh
00:29:43.480
at all these places calling the banana republics with with their judicial system
00:29:47.320
yet i mean we've got corrupt judges running around and there's nothing that
00:29:52.560
can be done about it looking at new york say there is something in his
00:29:56.360
financial disclosures that implicates him against president trump which i
00:30:00.300
wouldn't see see why they're hiding it otherwise who steps in because i mean you
00:30:04.520
can go up the levels in new york to the supreme court and everywhere and it
00:30:08.260
doesn't matter it's run by the democrats it'll keep getting kicked down what can
00:30:11.680
ultimately be done to get this guy the hell out of there
00:30:15.240
well look you know the supreme court reads the papers and that case from judge
00:30:21.560
mershon i think is on a potential rocket path to the supreme court because after the
00:30:27.360
trump vus decision about presidential immunity on july 1st came down yeah it's clear that the
00:30:34.200
whole trial and and the whole case is infected by evidence that violates an exclusionary rule that
00:30:39.840
that trump case created right uh in favor of the president because you know they had hope hicks come
00:30:45.460
in and testify about statements and and things said inside an oval office meeting that should
00:30:50.780
never come into court just for the audience for them to understand what's going on here
00:30:54.960
what you're saying is the evidence that was taken in from this case and received from this case
00:30:59.200
should have never been found in the first place due to the presidential immunity is that correct
00:31:03.280
yes so the the there's a you know two kinds of presidential immunity to recognize in the trump
00:31:08.760
vus decision absolute immunity for things within the core executive powers and function and then
00:31:14.240
presumptive immunity for everything else out to the outer boundaries of the presidency which is a lot
00:31:19.100
uh it includes like you know the president giving speeches uh even uh but there's also an exclusionary
00:31:25.600
rule that says that any internal discussions within the executive branch uh these these discussions cannot
00:31:33.880
be used as evidence uh and cannot be used to question the motives of the president well that's precisely
00:31:39.880
why they let in this evidence from hope hicks talking about an oval office meeting that infected the
00:31:45.700
whole trial at the very least there needs to be a new trial but it's even worse than that uh in my
00:31:50.640
mind john because that same evidence or some of it would have been put before the grand jury to get the
00:31:56.400
indictment so the entire case is infected it needs to go back to square one and president trump is entitled
00:32:02.560
to an interlocutory appeal on immunity what it what is an interlocutory appeal an interlocutory
00:32:07.600
appeal is an appeal before a final judgment which means that before judge mershon tries to sentence
00:32:13.780
president trump and tries to issue a final judgment to say all right now i'm done with this case you can
00:32:18.400
take it up on appeal he has to get review of the immunity issue and this evidentiary issue i think
00:32:23.840
he's going to try to block out trump from that on september 16th and then trump can go up i think he's
00:32:30.020
probably going to quickly find himself in front of the supreme court and he's going to say what gives
00:32:33.460
i'm supposed to get an interlocutory appeal and the new york you know judges won't give it to me
00:32:38.020
and you know i think the supreme court's going to be flabbergasted by that and i think they're going to
00:32:42.760
give him that stay so what you're saying is before trump is is sentenced on the 18th uh there'll be
00:32:49.620
a point at which he'll ask uh you know where's my immunity here do you think it gets to the point
00:32:55.580
where mershon actually sentences him on that date it's possible i've seen some speculation which is
00:33:02.200
interesting because this ties also to president trump's recent re-removal of the case from the state
00:33:08.840
court to federal court which judge hellerstein rejected the the removal statute for federal
00:33:15.460
officers like president trump says that judgment cannot be entered essentially before the removal
00:33:21.500
dust clears and so you know some have suggested that juan mershon may try to uh finesse that by
00:33:28.900
basically announcing a sentence but not entering judgment so that he can get the effect of blacking up
00:33:34.780
president trump without actually doing something that violates the removal statute so you know
00:33:40.040
there's a lot of moving parts in play on this john we got to stay tuned the dates of of september 16th
00:33:46.660
when mershon is supposed to rule on the immunity argument and the 918 sentencing date those are the
00:33:51.600
two dates to watch very very interesting is it possible that he gets sentenced on the 18th and we'll say
00:33:58.780
worst case scenario he sentences him to jail will he proceed to jail that day or will he be able to
00:34:05.200
enter his appeal immediately and and stay out uh i think that that it's possible that he could be
00:34:12.160
ordered to jail just to create some kind of like fiasco explosion right but i would i would predict that
00:34:18.160
if that happens john you know the the supreme court he blocks that and orders him released within 24
00:34:24.960
hours or 36 hours because he does he is entitled to an interlocutory appeal under superseding supreme
00:34:34.220
federal law that is you know something that the state can't ignore and you know i just don't see
00:34:40.540
how you know mershon's going to really get around that i think he's going to try he's supposed to rule
00:34:45.100
again on the immunity on 916 two days before he does the sentencing this this guy's corrupt as hell i want
00:34:51.660
to wrap up with this another man that's corrupt as hell you had mentioned the word tainted another
00:34:55.600
case that's clearly tainted is the the case in uh dc uh the uh january 6th case that jack smith
00:35:03.040
has brought against president trump once again since the immunity case uh this week he was in a dc
00:35:08.100
courtroom uh re-delivering that case as i said earlier in the show he's he's introduced new evidence
00:35:14.700
um it's so confidential that trump's lawyers are not even allowed to see it the former president who's got
00:35:20.360
top secret security clearance isn't allowed to see it why would jack smith be withholding evidence
00:35:25.600
why wouldn't he have filed it the first time there's no new documents he's taken since he's
00:35:29.720
indicted president trump the first time he's presumably had all his minions run through
00:35:34.300
every single document that was at mar-a-lago including newspaper clippings and whatever other
00:35:40.180
papers president trump kept is he allowed to do that what do you presume is in that document
00:35:45.460
well i think it's pure sandbagging and i think that he's also uh according to the reports of what
00:35:52.560
happened in the courtroom today in the hearing in front of judge chutkin been allowed to do something
00:35:56.780
that i think is really uh you know unprecedented which is the case comes back on remand from the
00:36:03.300
court from the same trump vus decision we've been talking about right and judge chutkins she wants to
00:36:09.100
rush and basically get to even an evidentiary hearing or some kind of ruling on immunity as soon
00:36:14.060
as possible and jack smith says oh hold on you know hold your horses we're still still doing
00:36:19.080
consultations inside the department and then what you know he wasn't you know i'm sure he was doing
00:36:24.800
some consultations but the main reason he wanted that break was because he was getting a superseding
00:36:30.280
indictment from a new grand jury so he comes in he gets a superseding indictment from the new grand jury
00:36:36.280
he files it against trump well at that point right that's his move in the chess game
00:36:41.160
what he's really trying to do is get two moves so now what he wants is and apparently judge
00:36:46.620
chutkin's going to give him is he's like okay i move out my pawn and now i'm also moving out my bishop
00:36:51.720
because i want to be able to file a brief that explains why my new indictment is consistent with
00:36:57.400
the limitations in the trump vus immunity decision and that you know uh president trump's lawyer you know
00:37:03.100
john lauro is like wait wait wait what what gives here you issued a new indictment now it's black's
00:37:08.020
move right now it's our turn to move and you know to counter your move and we would do that by filing
00:37:13.240
a motion to dismiss that's how this ordinarily proceeds you're you're turning the procedural
00:37:17.820
uh posture here totally upside down to give them the advantage of two moves in a row that's wrong judge
00:37:23.660
and i think you know john laura is totally right about that but you know judge chutkin she hasn't been
00:37:29.060
kind to president trump and she purports that this case is not election related i mean you can't even say
00:37:34.100
that with a straight face right but that's what she's doing and that's what president trump's got
00:37:38.120
to deal with at this point you know they've had more evidence than i think any case in the history
00:37:42.040
from january 6th i mean all you got to do is like go on youtube and listen to president trump's speech
00:37:46.860
about it being a rigged election last i checked it was under the presidential uh president's duties
00:37:53.020
to make sure that this country has free and fair elections i don't think you can make this stuff up
00:37:57.880
whether it's mershant uh jack smith alvin bragg these people are all and they look like evil
00:38:04.740
villains from like a bad movie and i really hope that this is just a bad dream and we'll all wake
00:38:09.520
up from it very soon jeff clark you're a great american thanks for everything you do uh and thanks
00:38:13.940
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