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00:01:18.340 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs. Welcome to the Great America Sunday Show. Great to have

00:01:23.220 you with us. Over this past week, the House of Representatives successfully moved a contempt

00:01:28.760 of Congress vote through the committee and on to the House floor. That House floor vote

00:01:35.120 is expected to come sometime this week and it's all becoming very real to Hunter Biden that

00:01:41.780 he may soon be held in contempt of Congress. It may be the reason he suddenly changed his course

00:01:47.840 and maybe his attitude, we'll see, making a full 180. Hunter's attorneys telling Congress Friday that

00:01:55.260 the first son will now agree to sit for that deposition in his father's impeachment inquiry.

00:02:02.940 His attorney, Abby Lowell, informed House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer and House Judiciary

00:02:09.300 Committee Chairman Jim Jordan of his client's, well, come to Jesus moment. His decision to go ahead and do

00:02:17.180 what the law requires. But they ask, of course, that a new subpoena be issued since Congress formally

00:02:23.620 approved an impeachment inquiry since Hunter Biden was first asked to be interviewed. For my part,

00:02:29.640 I would think the Republicans wouldn't engage in any of Hunter's deception and games further

00:02:34.520 and move straight ahead with the contempt of Congress vote. We'll see. And over on the Senate side

00:02:40.540 of Capitol Hill, Mitch McConnell and the boys hard at work this coming week trying to figure out how to

00:02:46.120 get the most amount of money to Ukraine in this latest bloated budget agreement. Senator Rand Paul

00:02:52.760 says the Republicans, namely Mitch McConnell, are selling out to the Marxist Dems on the border

00:02:58.440 because Mitch McConnell is more aligned with Biden and the Marxist Dems than the Republican Party.

00:03:05.140 Here he is.

00:03:05.780 On this issue, he is more aligned with Biden. On the issue of funding, sending your money to Ukraine

00:03:10.960 and sending it everywhere around the world, McConnell is much more closely aligned with

00:03:15.020 Biden than he is with the Republican Party.

00:03:16.740 Our guest today is Senator Tommy Tuberville of the great state of Alabama. And Senator,

00:03:21.920 always great to talk with you. Welcome back to The Great America Show and great to have you with us.

00:03:27.700 Let's start with this apparent negotiation that's been going on between the Speaker of the House,

00:03:32.360 Mike Johnson and the Biden administration. Your thoughts?

00:03:36.660 Well, number one, the Democrats want nothing to do with closing the borders. That's, you know,

00:03:40.880 they're wanting more voters to come in. They think that we'll vote for them in the long run,

00:03:45.080 Luke. It's a catastrophe. It's one of the worst things that's happened in your and my lifetime

00:03:49.920 here being a citizen of this great country. But the Democrats want zero solution. The only reason,

00:03:56.660 the only reason that there's any kind of conversation that that's going on with trying to come up with

00:04:02.000 some kind of solution or some kind of new priorities for the border is because the Democrats

00:04:07.100 and a few neocons, the Republicans, want $100 billion for Ukraine. I mean, that's the only

00:04:12.520 reason. If Ukraine wasn't a factor, Lou, we wouldn't even be talking about this. So there I've

00:04:18.680 heard that Senator Chris Murphy on the Democratic side and Senator James Lankford have been talking

00:04:24.540 over the holidays and trying to work out something. I think they've got something that

00:04:28.000 they agree to, and they're writing a text this week, possibly could vote on it next week.

00:04:33.480 But there's nothing they could do at the border that would satisfy me, to be honest with you,

00:04:37.380 because, you know, at the end of the day, we can come up with all these solutions.

00:04:42.880 They're not going to do anything. There's laws right now to stop what they're doing,

00:04:45.860 Lou. They're not going by them. They're breaking the law, the Constitution.

00:04:48.640 Joe Biden's broke laws every day. He's been in office and it's not going to change.

00:04:52.600 Is the Republican leadership in the Senate and obviously the House as well, do they really

00:05:00.780 believe the American people are dumb enough to believe that the Republicans are getting

00:05:06.240 anything for going along with Biden, that there is any way in the world that Biden would start

00:05:12.740 shutting down what is now the cartel border along that 2,000-mile stretch?

00:05:17.960 Yeah, my understanding, Lou, is they're coming up with some kind of number metric of how many

00:05:24.080 would be feasible or that we would allow to come across. And I'm thinking, wait a minute,

00:05:30.180 one illegal coming across is against the law. And they're talking about 4,000 or 5,000 a day that,

00:05:36.080 okay, we'll cut it down from 10,000 to 4,000 or 5,000. Now, if the American people swallow that

00:05:40.420 and agree to that, along with Democrats and a few Republicans, we got huge problems because

00:05:47.340 these people are costing us billions of dollars a month. They're bringing across drugs. There's

00:05:55.320 190 countries, 193 countries in our world, and 190 countries have been known that have been

00:06:03.380 participating and come across our borders. So I don't think the American people are going to buy

00:06:08.300 anything other than what President Trump was trying to do is build a dang wall, get it up,

00:06:12.680 and then allow the people that we won't allow to come here. That's the only way that we're going

00:06:17.200 to be able to handle this. Well, there's something very interesting going on because Biden, who's in

00:06:21.880 immense trouble because of his approval numbers, he's got the lowest polling of any president of

00:06:26.860 modern history. But on the issues, the approval rating on issues, his approval rating right now is

00:06:33.460 26% on immigration and border security. That's the lowest on any issue, and it ranks amongst the

00:06:41.700 very highest issues for the American people. And yet, there is no response whatsoever. There's

00:06:48.880 no change in direction by this Marxist-dim party of Democrats and no change of policy or direction

00:06:56.880 whatsoever on the part of the Biden regime. What do you think?

00:07:02.520 That's the reason in 2016, Lou, that the American people elected a non-politician businessman by the

00:07:09.720 name of Donald J. Trump, because he ran on his number one agenda was stopping people at the border. And

00:07:18.040 people are sick and tired of it, because our American tax dollars go more to anything, go to the people that

00:07:24.240 coming across more than the people that need help here in our country. And so it's going to be the same idea

00:07:30.220 here. It's going to be the same agenda. President Trump's going to run on the border. He'll win because of

00:07:35.160 that. We cannot continue to do that. And we got to get the Republicans on board with President Trump. You know,

00:07:42.140 there's 18 of us that have said, hey, we're for President Trump. I don't know where the other ones are. Sooner or

00:07:47.580 later, I guess they'll come, you know, come to their senses and say, we've got to have a Republican in there

00:07:53.600 that's going to be for the American people. But that is exactly why Joe Biden is is his numbers

00:08:00.840 have just tanked because of his what he's done at the border. And and again, you know, you got

00:08:06.240 Mayorkas thinking about impeaching. The guy's not going to close the border. You can impeach him all

00:08:10.500 you want. I mean, he's already told everybody the border is not open. It's closed. Well, I tell you

00:08:14.720 right there, he he doesn't know what he's doing. So we have got to have people that actually care about

00:08:19.500 this country and the people of this country. Well, you're talking about 18 endorsements out

00:08:24.160 of the Senate. Is Senator Lankford one of those endorsing the president? You know, I don't I don't

00:08:29.960 know whether he is or not. I know that Senator Tom Cotton was the last one that came out last week.

00:08:34.800 I was the very first one because, you know, I represent Alabama and we're strong for the

00:08:39.780 Constitution and for the president, President Trump. And of course, he's up here in D.C. today,

00:08:46.020 right down the street from my office having to go to court again because the Marxist Democrats

00:08:51.840 are going after him, trying to keep him off the ballot because they know if he wins, he's

00:08:55.720 fixing to close shop with what they're doing and they can't allow that to happen. So they're

00:08:59.840 going to fight him every way they possibly can. They're going to try to put him in jail.

00:09:02.960 It's criminal what they're doing. But I think the American people who are finally seeing through

00:09:07.600 it, if they don't, we got huge problems anyway. Right. And by the way, the order of endorsements

00:09:12.880 for President Trump from the senators, by the way, they are ordered by intelligence, character

00:09:19.940 and judgment. And you wouldn't be surprised to learn that Senator Tommy Tuberville is number

00:09:26.040 one in those endorsements. Senator, we're coming right back with you. Folks, stay with us. We're

00:09:32.000 going to take up a lot of issues you don't want to miss. We're talking with Senator Tommy

00:09:36.680 Tuberville. We'll be right back.

00:09:42.880 We're back now. We're talking with Senator Tommy Tuberville. I want to turn to the GOP

00:09:49.780 lawmakers. They're not too pleased about the one point, almost seven trillion dollars that

00:09:56.240 Johnson and Schumer have come to come to agreement on. Apparently, what is the sense? Because I know

00:10:03.920 there's a lot of hostility and disappointment and frustration in the House with what Speaker

00:10:09.560 Mike Johnson did with the the triumvirate of I'll call them basically rhinos and dims.

00:10:18.960 What is the situation in the Senate on the budget agreement?

00:10:22.520 Well, first of all, Lou, when we go back home in our states, the people of this country that

00:10:26.820 actually pay the taxes and pay the bills, they want the budget cut. They want to see

00:10:31.300 see our deficit go down 34 trillion dollars and lose September the 18th. We were 33 trillion

00:10:36.980 and in December the 28th, we went to 34 trillion. That's three months. We are out of control up

00:10:43.780 here. And, you know, they come up with this top line of one point, whatever it is, six or

00:10:47.920 seven trillion dollars. And it says, oh, we've got that's a six billion dollar cut.

00:10:53.700 Wait a minute. That's a drop in the bucket. We better start understanding we cannot continue

00:10:59.600 to spend like this. Evidently, they don't want to shut the government down. It's going

00:11:05.460 to take that. I'm telling you, it's going to take shutting the government down to get people's

00:11:08.760 attention up here. But I tell you, it's like they saw a ghost. If you bring up, shut the

00:11:16.280 government down. And again, we went over, Lou, three, four weeks ago, before we left for Christmas,

00:11:22.760 we went over for the first time 23 million federal employees. Think about that. 23 million. It's

00:11:29.940 never been that high and it's growing every day. We have lost our minds. Yeah. And by the way,

00:11:36.500 President Biden just gave them all a big raise. Well, most Americans are suffering right now

00:11:42.620 under inflation and also a slowing economy. Let's turn to the Defense Department

00:11:50.220 that undergoing a review, quote unquote, over Lloyd Austin's disappearance,

00:11:57.400 his hospitalization, telling no one what he including the president. It's just the most

00:12:04.440 astounding conduct by any Secretary of Defense I've ever heard of. Your reaction?

00:12:12.600 Lou, the big thing about the White House and their organization, it's kind of like being a head

00:12:17.380 coach. You've got assistance. Or if you're a CEO of a big business, you've got people that work for

00:12:21.980 you. The decency is if you have one of your top subordinates that has a problem, health problem or

00:12:27.940 whatever, you know, you call your boss. And everybody up here knows that Joe Biden's out to lunch most of

00:12:35.640 the time. And I think this is a huge slap in the face to the White House and the President of the United

00:12:40.540 States for him not to call. Now, he probably had to call somebody. But the thing everybody

00:12:45.400 shouldn't understand is he's got hundreds of people that work for him. And I'm talking about

00:12:49.520 the Secretary of Defense. You know, somebody should have made a call to the White House and say,

00:12:54.000 hey, by the way, Secretary of Defense is down. He's in ICU. But there was no call. I mean,

00:12:58.700 no communication. Communication is the number one thing that drives what goes on in an organization

00:13:04.180 like the White House, the government or anything that goes on. So again, everybody asked me,

00:13:10.320 should he be fired? Hey, that's not my job. That job, the President of the United States. And if the

00:13:14.480 people have no confidence in Joe Biden, which I'm telling you, most people don't. I don't care if

00:13:18.800 you're Republican or Democrat. You know, he's the one that needs to go. And so hopefully in 10 months

00:13:24.500 that happens. You know, Senator, as you're talking, I'm thinking here we are with a president,

00:13:31.140 as you referred to out, excuse me, out to lunch. He is he's mentally impaired. He is not a healthy

00:13:38.640 man. He is not fit to be in the job. And I think everyone understands that with his cognitive

00:13:44.640 impairment, with his corruption, with his he is a compromised president. He is nothing more than a

00:13:52.800 puppet. And people, I think, truly understand that now. Then you have Lloyd Austin, who doesn't even

00:13:59.300 understand his own military chain of command or the national authority chain of command. There are

00:14:05.980 two people who have that responsibility. That's the President of the United States. And that is the

00:14:11.320 Secretary of Defense. And he just goes for, you know, I'm sure it was not a pleasant walk, but a walk to a

00:14:16.880 hospital and is in ICU and nobody knows about it. This is just, to me, it's just absolutely nuts. But it

00:14:25.900 happens in every department. He has people who have no qualification, no energy and no work ethic and

00:14:31.500 actually have no plan to achieve anything. I think we may consider many of those secretaries of these

00:14:37.340 departments. They're sort of heroes because they are not doing what damage they certainly could. But this is

00:14:45.720 this is a pretend government, a pretend administration and a pretend president, it seems to me, Senator.

00:14:51.840 Well, Lou, we've talked about this before. This is the most dangerous time in year in my lifetime.

00:14:59.440 We're on the verge of three wars, which could just catapult into something that we would be it would

00:15:05.920 be devastating, not just our country, but all countries. And the guy that it pulls the strings

00:15:12.400 for our military, 1.5 million, which I think is we've got some good military people, but I think

00:15:19.600 they've created a situation where probably the weakest that we've been, somebody has got to be

00:15:25.360 in charge. And as you said, all of his people that work for him, the Secretary of Transportation is a

00:15:31.760 disaster. The Secretary of Homeland Security is a disaster. You could just go on and on. But the

00:15:38.800 country's kind of running on autopilot right now. And we've got a constitution that we go by. The

00:15:46.560 problem is they don't go by the Constitution. They break it every day and we can't afford to continue

00:15:52.320 to do that. So November can't get here soon enough. I'm hoping that a lot of the Democrats even see

00:15:58.560 this. The guy and the people that are running this country right now are running it straight into the

00:16:03.440 ground, changing it to a fascist Marxist country with all kind of ideas that the American people

00:16:09.600 don't deserve, the American taxpayer don't deserve. We have got to turn this ship around in the right

00:16:14.720 direction. Senator Tommy Tuberville, God bless you and thanks so much. Thank you, Luke. Senator Tommy

00:16:20.800 Tuberville, thanks so much for being with us. We'll talk with you soon. And coming up next here on the

00:16:25.200 Great America Sunday Show, former CIA analyst John Gentry, the author of the important book,

00:16:32.640 Neutering the CIA. We'll take up the intelligence agencies meddling in politics and elections

00:16:38.880 and how we can do something about it in the 2024 election. Stay with us. We'll be right back.

00:16:51.040 Thanks for staying with us here on the Great America Sunday Show.

00:16:54.720 Joining us today, John Gentry. John, thanks for being with us here on the Great America Show. I want to

00:17:00.080 compliment you on your book entitled Neutering the CIA, Why U.S. Intelligence vs. Trump Has Long-Term

00:17:08.480 Consequences. Well, Neutering the CIA is the title. We recommend it to everybody highly. And John, I have

00:17:15.200 to say first and foremost, thanks for doing the book. The American people are desperately in need

00:17:21.040 of all of the information that we can get about the intelligence community and the disinformation

00:17:27.040 they're ginning up and their relationship to our government and the political system. Obama's

00:17:32.960 plan, as you point out, to fundamentally transform America seems to lie at the very foundation of what

00:17:40.240 has become the weaponization of the intelligence community, and particularly the CIA. Is that a

00:17:46.560 correct statement? I think it's a major part of it. Not the only part, to be sure. There were some

00:17:52.960 evolutionary changes occurring. Young people were coming into the IC, the intelligence community,

00:18:00.800 in the post-9-11 period. But President Obama took a big step in pushing the hiring of diverse people. He

00:18:16.240 created in 2011 an executive order which created within the federal government agencies, including

00:18:24.720 in the IC, diversity offices. And he named senior officials within the intelligence community,

00:18:33.120 particularly James Clapper as the director of national intelligence, and John Brennan,

00:18:37.600 the director of the CIA, who pushed his agenda quite a bit further. And John Brennan, I believe, is the primary

00:18:49.200 person responsible, shall we say, for the politicization that we've seen in recent years in the CIA. He

00:18:57.840 pushed the president's agenda considerably and then went farther. And importantly, and we know this from his own

00:19:06.480 words, he encouraged his people, CIA people, to be politically active. And we know that there was an upsurge in leaks

00:19:18.880 after Donald Trump became a serious presidential contender and then president. And we know, too, that there

00:19:27.840 were a number of people who were out of government, former intelligence people or formers as we know them. And the

00:19:35.120 formers also were active. And some of them said in no uncertain terms that they were

00:19:42.320 acting this way because of advice and encouragement that they got from John Brennan.

00:19:48.080 When we talk about the intelligence community, as you point out in your book,

00:19:52.000 those formers take up a big space that most of people, most people, I think, would not even

00:19:58.240 consider to be in the IC. But they obviously have great influence and roles to play. And you pointed

00:20:07.120 out that almost for the very first year that Obama was in office, he started this DEI. It was called

00:20:14.800 that then diversity, equity, inclusion. For example, we're seeing a manifestation of the disaster that's

00:20:23.680 awaiting, I think, much of corporate America right now in the Harvard conflict and controversy over

00:20:30.720 their president, who was first accused of being a bigot and the secondly, a plagiarist. And now the DEI

00:20:39.280 thing has exploded in academia. But it hasn't done so in government. It still is being pushed as hard

00:20:48.080 today, if not harder than it was 10 years ago, isn't it? Oh, I think it's being pushed much harder

00:20:56.080 now. So Obama started it very clearly. He set up the diversity offices within the federal government

00:21:02.880 as a whole, which became, in essence, the ideological as well as the human resources

00:21:10.160 enforcement group within these organizations. The Trump administration basically ignored this issue.

00:21:17.200 They did essentially nothing to reverse it. And when Joe Biden became president, he brought back

00:21:26.400 the Obama policies and then pushed them considerably further. So my sources are telling me that the kinds

00:21:33.520 of things that I was seeing at CIA in the second Obama term and during the Trump years is now becoming

00:21:41.520 more common in agencies around the government, including in the uniform military, which is unprecedented,

00:21:50.640 unprecedented and and I think disastrous for the military. I don't even want to contemplate

00:21:58.400 where that where that leads in terms of both the the military order, morale staffing and the success of recruiting,

00:22:08.800 of course, which has become the failure of recruiting right now. People just don't want to join a woke

00:22:14.320 organization. They want to join the United States military. And that seems to be just a shadow of

00:22:21.200 an afterthought of what it once was. But staying with the CIA here for some time, John Brennan, as you mentioned,

00:22:31.120 the primary, if you will, the protagonist really within the the IC itself, he was motivated not simply by

00:22:41.120 Obama's executive order, as you point out. He was already well on his way to driving that program in the CIA

00:22:50.960 and now is colluding, if I may use that expression, with 50 others in by 2020, 50 others in signing a letter

00:23:04.240 lying through their teeth that it was Russian disinformation. When one man, not generally considered

00:23:10.720 to be part of the IC, the Attorney General Bill Barr knew full well he was lying, even as he was debating

00:23:18.880 Donald Trump in the final debate of 2020 about the validity of both the Hunter Biden laptop,

00:23:28.240 but also the the ridiculous assertion that Trump was colluding with the Russians, which they knew very

00:23:36.320 well he was not. Right. Well, the collusion, the Russian collusion issue was was in the 2016-17 period.

00:23:46.880 And as you know, special special counsel Robert Robert Mueller pretty much put that put that to bed.

00:23:55.520 But you raise an important issue in the what I call a laptop 51 letter. Right. But in this case,

00:24:03.360 you you had a situation. I think we know now courtesy some some House hearings in March of 2023. Here,

00:24:11.920 you had a situation in which the the Hunter Biden laptop was was left, was looked at,

00:24:21.360 was seen to contain information that was at least prospectively very damaging to the Biden family.

00:24:29.760 The the FBI apparently looked at it, thought it was real, but didn't say anything.

00:24:35.840 The campaign, the campaign, the Biden campaign did know that this was this was a prospective problem.

00:24:43.440 And they encouraged then a couple of the formers, Michael Morrell, former deputy director at CIA,

00:24:51.760 and Mark Palomaropoulos, a senior retired operations officer. They they were then asked to help.

00:24:59.200 And the way they helped was to write a short letter that that would be an open letter. The open letter form

00:25:08.080 format was something that was used repeatedly during the Trump years. Letters would be signed.

00:25:14.960 There would be a specific message associated with them. Usually they were published by Politico,

00:25:20.480 the organization here in the in the Washington area. Well, in this case, the the the effort was to make

00:25:29.360 the letter, excuse me, make make the the laptop story, which is initially reported in the Washington,

00:25:37.920 excuse me, in the New York Post, make it look like it was Russian disinformation.

00:25:45.120 And and thereby appear to be a non a non issue. As you know, October surprises are things that

00:25:52.640 presidential candidates do not like. Now, was this was this really a Russian disinformation operation?

00:26:03.040 My understanding from one of the people who received a solicitation to sign this letter

00:26:09.280 told me that the original solicitation was not use your good intelligence judgment to make to make an

00:26:17.360 assessment of this situation. Instead, the message was, please sign the letter because we need we need to.

00:26:25.040 We want to help Joe Biden. So it was from the very beginning, at least in this one case,

00:26:31.600 it was it was a politically motivated use of intelligence expertise

00:26:37.360 for blatant political purposes. Yeah. And Mike Morrell, former acting director of the CIA,

00:26:46.160 a deputy director as well, being very plain spoken and direct about it with those

00:26:54.000 the signees that he solicited, saying it is specifically for the purpose of helping Joe

00:27:00.000 Biden win the presidency of the United States. In this one case, anyway, I have information from

00:27:07.200 one source only. But it was according to this source, it was very clear.

00:27:11.520 In this instance, we've got Mike Morrell in his own words. And that to me is a disgrace. And no one

00:27:20.240 has held him to account for it to this point. We are talking with John Gentry. He is the author

00:27:27.680 of the very important book, Neutering the CIA. We're going to be talking with him

00:27:32.960 next about what happens now. And we'll be right back after these quick words. Stay with us.

00:27:45.680 We're back now. We're talking with John Gentry. He is the author of what I consider to be a very

00:27:51.280 important book, Neutering the CIA. John, 12 years, an analyst with the CIA. He also spent four years

00:28:02.240 at the Intelligence University and is a thoughtful and knowledgeable

00:28:09.120 and great American. We thank you again for being with us, John. I want to turn to

00:28:15.040 the CIA today as a result of all that has preceded over the previous, well, almost decade and a half.

00:28:24.240 Suddenly, the CIA has quotas. It has demographic

00:28:27.760 quotas and percentages that it has to meet in its makeup. I was stunned reading your book to find

00:28:35.680 that more than half of the CIA employees are women, which is an extraordinary number,

00:28:43.680 that there is an insistence upon racial quotas within the CIA, the DEI. That is the case in,

00:28:51.600 by the way, in human resources departments throughout corporate America now in all parts of the federal

00:28:56.720 government. I noticed that there was no reference to how many conservatives and how many liberals they

00:29:03.440 want to have on what quotas and what balance they want so that we look more like America, as you quote

00:29:09.520 President Obama having said. Well, looking like America means you hire and promote more people

00:29:16.720 and who are in the coalition of people who are favored. And what that means effectively at this point is

00:29:27.520 people who are not male, Caucasian, heterosexual and healthy.

00:29:32.400 Yeah. Why would we not want some representation of what is the clear majority of the nation?

00:29:38.000 I it's it's a breath. And I'm being facetious as I say this because it is so ludicrous on its face,

00:29:45.760 but it is gospel to these true believers on the left. These these neo-Marxists who make up the leadership

00:29:55.120 of the Democrat Party. Well, the the assumption, the assertion is that European American men are oppressors,

00:30:04.960 again, largely from a from a Marxian perspective, as you say. And so your your your diversity policy

00:30:12.320 is to help redress this oppressive evil. So you're not interested in in hiring more people who are who

00:30:20.800 are Caucasian men and certainly not conservative. And and here we are in 2024 with the most important,

00:30:29.840 I believe. And I said the same thing in 2020. So now it's just more important. I think existential now

00:30:37.520 that this election be fair, it be free and free of interference, certainly from the very intelligence

00:30:46.720 community that has no business doing anything in domestic politics, as you point out time and time

00:30:51.840 again, that it's honored in in violation constantly. The CIA seems to be principally a one of the two or three

00:31:03.920 largest sources of disinformation campaigns against the American people. It is that serious. How do we roll it back?

00:31:12.720 Well, I think I think you need you need some senior leadership here. And again, Mr. Trump did not do

00:31:21.200 this in in in in 2017 to 21. So my personal hope is whoever is the next president will will address this.

00:31:30.160 But a key point here is that it really is not formally the CIA that is doing this. So we had a long history.

00:31:38.720 I won't even begin to get into it. But there were there were there were efforts in the 1960s and 70s to

00:31:46.320 to have formal programs run by the director and so on that went after anti-war activists in the in the Vietnam War

00:31:54.640 period that that that activity was discovered. It was generally widely considered to be inappropriate.

00:32:02.000 So so the agency proper has not done domestic operations of this sort ever since. To my knowledge,

00:32:10.160 it is, in fact, against the law and it's against the culture. But we have two major groups of people

00:32:16.960 who are involved in this, who are active. Again, the former's we've mentioned several of them here

00:32:23.200 who are now who use their intelligence credentials, bolstered, shined up and so on by the by the

00:32:35.920 the liberal media who who are using the skills that CIA officers developed over the years in the

00:32:45.920 information operations area to to to to generate alterations in perceptions. And the second the second

00:32:54.320 group is the form is the current employees who are leaking. So they're leaking purposefully incorrect

00:33:02.880 information at times. They're doing what what's known as disinformation. And the effort here is to is to

00:33:11.760 in in in our contemporary case, damage political enemies, including Donald Trump.

00:33:17.920 And this is a bureaucracy. This is we're talking about the intelligence community sworn

00:33:24.480 taking an oath to defend the Constitution, trampling it, actually trying to subvert a president

00:33:30.960 to overthrow a president in the case of Donald Trump. We see an extension of that now simply because

00:33:36.560 on the basis of their their sense of self righteousness that they know better than does

00:33:43.520 anyone else, mere mortals like the American people at the polls making a decision. They prefer to make

00:33:50.960 those decisions. This is this has risen to the level of a fifth column, in my opinion, within the United

00:33:58.320 States, within our political system by groups of people who have no business interfering in domestic

00:34:03.680 politics in any way. Well, I would certainly certainly agree with you there. And in fact,

00:34:11.280 we have a number of the formers, right? The leakers are not talking this way to the public. They can't

00:34:17.440 do that. It's either against the law, depending on what they're saying, or against policies. But people

00:34:22.240 like John McLaughlin, for example, and any number of others, somewhat less articulately,

00:34:28.080 have made that made the point that politicization of intelligence, the injection of politics into

00:34:33.760 intelligence doing, even though they all recognize that this is bad, that there was such a such a horrid

00:34:40.560 situation developing in 2016, and then and then present for four years, that the intelligence people,

00:34:48.800 as good people needed to step forward and to warn the American people about the danger that was

00:34:58.480 that was confronting them. So the danger that they had manufactured, everything from the creation,

00:35:05.040 the Steele dossier, everything to the allegations of collusion, were all absolute fictions structured,

00:35:14.800 manufactured by the intelligence community itself, and its formers and assisters, enablers.

00:35:23.200 Well, I think a Steele dossier, actually. So this was this was a set of small papers put together into

00:35:30.480 a quote dossier done by Christopher Steele, a former British intelligence officer. He was actually hired by

00:35:37.360 the Hillary Clinton campaign in 2016 to do to do as part of the opera opposition research effort.

00:35:45.040 Yeah, that what what many of the and so this is a legitimate issue to look at.

00:35:51.440 Thank you, John. And I encourage everybody listening to to get John's book, John Gentry. The book is

00:35:57.200 neutering the CIA. We appreciate you bringing all of this to our attention. Please come back soon.

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The Great America Show - January 14, 2024

THE GREAT AMERICA SUNDAY SHOW WITH SEN. TOMMY TUBERVILLE AND FMR. CIA ANALYST JOHN GENTRY

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