THE J-6 COMMITTEE’S ACCUSATIONS AGAINST TRUMP WILL ONLY DRIVE HIS POLL NUMBERS HIGHER AND HE WILL BE RUNNING IN ’24
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John McLaughlin, a prominent Republican pollster and strategist, joins us to discuss the current state of the Republican Party and what it means for the midterms and the 2020 election. John also gives us his reading on the latest CNN/ORC poll on the state of support for Donald Trump.
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Hello everybody, I'm Lou Dobbs and welcome to the Great America Show.
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The Marxist Dems war against President Donald Trump rages on, just as it has since 2016,
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when their political persecution began by framing up Trump's choice to be his National Security
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Advisor, General Michael Flynn, almost six months before Trump would become president.
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And now, the January 6th committee, surprise alert, referred President Trump for criminal
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prosecution. They put forth charges that ignore evidence of the president's proper conduct
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and statements to demonstrators, and also served to question the conduct of the Department of
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Justice and FBI in their raid on Mar-a-Lago and further persecution of President Trump himself.
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Not the president's conduct. Meanwhile, the Republican Party's civil war goes on.
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The RINO Republican establishment versus the Trump, MAGA, and America First GOPers. And in the House,
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it's Kevin McCarthy and the RINOs versus conservative Republican Congressman Andy Biggs
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and the Freedom Caucus. And MAGA, America First Republicans. All coming to a head at the same
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moment. And the only way to avoid this conflict is for Biggs, the Freedom Caucus, and America First
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Republicans to yield, to give in to the establishment RINOs. If they do, I don't believe they will. But I
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also don't believe it's an overstatement to say all would be lost. This is the Republican Party's
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defining moment and their way and ours out of the establishment swamp. The Republican Party faithful
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remained restive and disappointed at the failure of Republican Party leaders to deliver what should
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have been a big win in the Senate and the House. The House, where the GOP was told to expect a big
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red wave and now has only a slim, fragile majority. Our guest today to take up all of this and give us
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his reading on the state of the Republican Party is John McLaughlin, prominent GOP pollster and
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strategist for McLaughlin and Associates. John, it's great to have you with us as always. Merry
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Christmas. Let's start with what you believe to be the most salient findings in your monthly polling.
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Well, thank you. It's great to be, you know, back on the podcast and Merry Christmas to you too.
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And it's interesting that at this time, a lot of Republicans are a little deflated or may take it
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back a lot deflated because they thought we had a greater opportunity. Our firm, we were successful
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with a lot of our candidates, all our incumbents won re-election and we took five seats away from the
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Democrats to help the Republicans get a House majority. However, our campaigns were pretty aggressive
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and we ran campaigns that forced a referendum on the country being on the wrong track in Biden.
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And, you know, the big news out of the poll, because we completed it from December 9th to the 14th,
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and it's on our website on mclaughlinonline.com today. And the big news for us was there was a spate
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of recent polls that had Donald Trump losing, not winning the nomination and losing to Biden,
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etc. In our poll, because it's a poll of likely voters, not of adults, not of registered voters,
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not one of these media polls where they only find 25% Republicans when we were 36% on the election in
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2020 and as much this year in the midterm elections. We've got 61% saying that they want Donald Trump.
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Among likely Republican primary voters, including independents nationally, 61% want Donald Trump to run again,
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and if he runs again, they will support him 77% to 19%. And in a field of 13 candidates, he's the frontrunner,
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48% and 23% support Ron DeSantis. Everybody else is in single digits. And one-on-one against Governor DeSantis,
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it's 58% for Donald Trump, 36% for DeSantis. Again, it's a national poll. And then among general,
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likely general election voters, Donald Trump wins 48% to 45% and against Kamala Harris, he wins 49-42.
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So those numbers contradict a lot of media polls because they poll adults where 258 million adults
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across the country are eligible to vote. However, in the last presidential election in 2020,
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we had a record turnout of only 160 million people. We think the likely voters is the more accurate
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model because Trump, I mean, Trump supporters are more likely to show up in the primary, show up in the
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elections. And they're diluting these samples to say Trump can't win when it's precisely the opposite.
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And they're doing it on purpose, the media again, because we went through this 2016, 2020,
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where Trump could never win the election, according to the media. I mean, there was a Hillary lock,
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remember? Oh, yeah. And by God, by 78,000 votes, let us win in 2016 and stopped Hillary from being
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president. And for whatever reasons, in the 2020 election, in the battleground states, we lost
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the electoral majority by only 44,000 votes out of 160 million, 10,000 Arizona, 11,000 in Georgia,
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and 20,000 in Wisconsin. Otherwise, Donald Trump would have been president again. But those are
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fascinating numbers. Talking about the number of votes that if they had shifted within a base of,
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call it 160 million people, that you can see that happen in the battleground states, those are just,
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we're really talking about a few counties in each state, and the world is quite different as a result,
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isn't it? Yes. And that was, our strategy in 2016 was to bring new voters out because only,
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and Mitt Romney's race against Barack Obama in 2012, only 130 million people voted. And when you
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looked at the three key states of Virginia, Ohio, and Florida, there were people who voted in 2008,
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2010, and didn't vote in 2012. And we did polls to see who they were. And there was, at first,
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we ran the list, and it was a half million in Virginia, 800,000 in Ohio, a million in Florida.
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And they were working class Americans. There was diverse. There were some African Americans,
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some Hispanics. It was mostly women, almost six out of 10 were women. But their common denominator was
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they all made less than $60,000 a year, where they were like one bad auto repair or one bad
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medical bill from bankruptcy. And they were worried about losing their jobs. And they didn't want to vote
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for Mitt Romney because he represented the guy who belongs to the country club that would fire them.
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And they came out, 9 million more voters came out in 2016, particularly in these Rust Belt,
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Sun Belt states, to help Donald Trump, because they looked at him as their blue-collar billionaire
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who was going to fight for the working men and women of America. And in 2020, David Plouffe,
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who worked for Zuckerberg, came up with a plan, wrote a book about it, published it in March,
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about registering more voters in those counties in the key battleground states that voted for Hillary
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Clinton. And so they were in those counties, but not registered. And they would register them.
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And then they would make it easier for them to vote. They were ballot harvest. And that's where the
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drop boxes came from. And that's where these looser election laws came from in Pennsylvania,
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the bags of mail came from, and the permanently disabled ballots that are now illegal in Wisconsin
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came from. So they, in effect, had this strategy, and they executed. And the bad part is, last November,
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they're still executing this, where in the midterm elections, fortunately, Georgia,
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for Governor Kemp, fortunately, and the other statewide officeholders, they required voter ID,
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absentees, and in-person voting. And they also got rid of the drop boxes that were unsecure,
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and only allowed secure drop boxes. So it's a battle where the Democrats want to loosen the election
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laws that could allow potential fraud. And Republicans have to fight every day to stop them.
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But as you and I both, as both of us know, the Republicans won't fight every day, don't fight
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every day, didn't fight every day. And instead, we now have courts chiming in and saying, as they did
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in North Carolina this very week, that, you know, there's not going to be voter ID.
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There are nicking fraud, so permissible, whether it be the Marxist Dems elected in Washington,
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D.C., or the Marxist Dems, in effect, or at least their enablers in the judiciary. It's outrageous
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what has been done, and the Republicans don't even speak about it, Republican leadership,
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publicly. And they're doing absolutely nothing, despite, for example, Ronna McDaniel's protestations,
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that she was ready with a magnificent ground game, as if it were 1956. It's bizarre how inept
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the Republican Party is as an electoral-focused group.
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But you're exactly right, Lou, because I tell you, the point about this, the ground game,
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that was developed in 2002, 20 years ago, to help George Bush. They had a 72-hour game plan. That's
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when people voted on Election Day. Well, the Democrats have adapted and turned it into Election
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Month. And places where Republicans fight, like in Florida, in North Carolina, in, you know, in Nassau
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County, New York, where the county organization, we make sure we, whatever the rules are, we beat the
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Democrats on absentee ballots or stay even. We beat them in early in-person voting. And then we beat
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them on Election Day. And for whatever reasons, a lot of these state parties, like Pennsylvania,
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the National Committee, they wait and don't show up for the first three quarters of the game and expect
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to win in the fourth quarter. You can't do that. And by the way, North Carolina, since you mentioned
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that with voter ID, that court that just ruled is based on a Democrat court where two of the judges
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that lost elections this November were Democrats. And you're coming into a four-to-three Republican
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court. So the partisan Democrats did that before their terms were up so that the Republicans will
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have a harder time going back to voter ID. And, you know, North Carolina, they reapportion it every
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year. And they're afraid that the Republicans are going to reapportion it last year, just like the
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Democrats fought in court. And you got Democrat lawyers like Mark Elias that have to be stopped at
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every turn because they're weakening election integrity. And it's making our democracy the
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laughingstock of the world. So it has to be stopped. And it's got to be changed.
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Mark Elias, he is the solution for the Democrats. He's the problem for the Republicans.
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I don't understand how any group of professional strategists, the RNC, the campaigns come together
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and just sort of go, duh, when they hear Mark Elias's name and look over all that he has done
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in the legal system to assure maximum turnout for the Dems. And if you will, it's not suppression of
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the Republican vote. The Republicans do enough of that on their own. But they're just indifferent
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and awestruck, apparently, all of the Republican lawyers by this guy and his apparatus there.
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It is, I don't understand why a bunch of what were once in this country white-shoes Republicans
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as attorneys, they're just absent. People are afraid to go near them. And they are afraid to come out
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for the party. I really think a lot of that's going on, don't you?
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Yes. And I'll tell you what's interesting. Again, I'm going to say being in New York.
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But last year in New York, the Democrats had three propositions on the ballot and a statewide
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referendum the same day as the New York City's mayor's race so they could get a favorable turnout.
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You know who fought them? It wasn't really the Republican Party. It was the New York State
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conservative party because they have their own party. It's the party that elected Jim Buckley
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a senator and Bill Buckley had run for mayor. And they usually endorse our candidates like Ronald
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Reagan and Donald Trump. And they love Donald Trump. But they fought and spent over $5 million
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to beat three propositions. One was redistricting that would count illegal immigrants as residents
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and get rid of the bipartisan redistricting commission. One that would allow same day
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registration in a state where there's no voter ID and one where there's no excuse absentee so they
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could ballot harvest. And guess what? The voters of New York, which are two to one Democrat in
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registration, they voted it down 56 to 58 percent in each of those three propositions because they
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don't want voter fraud and they know it that the Democrats are trying to put this over on them.
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And it allowed us this year to win in the courts to get their Democrat redistricting plan thrown out,
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which probably would have meant only four Republicans for Congress for New York. Instead,
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we've got 11. That seven seat margin is the reason why the Republicans have a majority in the House today
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or they will have come January. And I was pretty sure it was because of the extraordinary campaign
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comprehension and strategy created by Kevin McCarthy to to drive that those victories.
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I have to say, you know, you combine all that the Democrats are doing, what all that the Republican
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leadership isn't doing. And then you throw in the extraordinary, dark money that the Democratic
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Party has available to it, whether it's Soros money, whether it's Arabella, you name it. They're
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throwing money at everything. And the Republicans just haven't been competing, have they?
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No. And and when you look at the money, I mean, we've had, you know, I mean, the Democrats,
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ironically, will spend money to elect Trump candidates where they they want to run against
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a Trump backed primary opponent. And Sean Patrick Maloney, who ran the Democratic campaign committee
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that we defeated in November, he was beaten by Mike Lawler for Congress in New York. He was spending
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money in primaries to get the Republican candidate who was more Trump like. And they ran a ton of ads
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of Mike Lawler calling him Maga Mike. And it just made Lawler stronger and caused Maloney to lose.
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And we saw her in a different district, John Katko's district up in Syracuse in Onondaga County and the
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environs around there. Brandon Williams, one of our clients, we did the polling for, he was a Trump
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supporter. They spent a million dollars out of one of these dark money groups, the Republicans, to beat us
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in the primary so a rhino could win. We won in November precisely because Williams stood for getting rid of
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cashless bail because he stood for, you know, lower taxes and against the spending that's causing
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inflation. So, so, you know, it's something about inside the beltway where these country club Republicans
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would rather nominate losers and remain in the minority rather than, you know, see Trump candidates
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win and actually win a majority. So, you know, we're going to have primaries next year, you know,
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we're set up for primaries next year so that in, you know, 2024, it'll be the same thing. We'll win the
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primaries. They didn't want Donald Trump to win. We got to win the primaries and then we got to win the
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general election all over again. So, but if the working men and women of America realize what's going to
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happen this year, because that poll that we talked about in November, I mean, 64% said the country's on the
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wrong track, 60% think we're in recession. They think the economy is getting worse, not better, 64 to 30.
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Over 80% have been impacted by inflation negatively and 42% saying they've been hurt by inflation so bad
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they can't afford basic necessities. So, you know, the issues are there. The Republicans got to stand up
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and stand up for working middle-class America. And the Republican Party certainly isn't doing any of
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that. We've got Karl Rove out raising money from the donors to go against Republican candidates,
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support Democrats, because Mitch McConnell just will not in any way, shape or form,
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exceed to any kind of intelligent posture and support Donald Trump candidates. He wants Mitch
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McConnell candidates, you know, Mitch McConnell, the energy, the dynamism origins for the Republican
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Party. You would think that he is the driving fuel when he is just destroying the party. Your thoughts?
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Well, well, you know, right now, what's what's interesting to me is I, I listen a lot. Steve
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Forbes is a good friend. Larry Cutler is a good friend, Steve Moore. I listen to them economically.
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And Larry had us ask a question in September in our national poll that's online, where do you want
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to see the Republicans reduce spending in order to cut inflation? And among all voters nationally, 71% to 14,
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they said they did. 71%. That's a big number. You only need 51% to win. The Republicans ironically got
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51% of the national popular vote for Congress. But that's an issue that the Republicans needed to play,
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because back in 2010, when they took the House in 2009, before they took the House with a huge margin
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and had like 60 seats turned around, they, they, they stood up to Obama on a stimulus package,
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on his budget and an Obamacare, because they were all spending too much money. And guess what? They,
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they won in a landslide in 2010. Well, this time around, the voters were saying, please stand up to
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them. Please stop this inflation by stopping the, you know, trillions of government spending. And
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they chose not to. And, you know, individual candidates did. And that's why we were successful,
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particularly our candidates played offense on those issues and forced a referendum on Joe Biden,
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made this Biden's fault. But now you've got the House is saying, you know, let us change the
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budget in January. And instead, certain Republicans are voting for a continuing resolution that goes
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almost a whole year before they can change the budget, which means that we'll have higher inflation.
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So it's, and, and Kudlow correctly calls it a betrayal. So, so it's a betrayal, but I think
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there's another thing here I'd like you to consider, you know, can go out there and get 71% on, you know,
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do you want us to cut federal spending to stop inflation? That's one way to word the question.
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But would you rather have a promise from a Republican party that hasn't delivered on those with the
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exception of the Trump, the Trump years, four of them, while Joe Biden is handing, you know, a half
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trillion dollars to young voters and their families, by the way, not just young voters, but also their
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families with student loan forgiveness. I mean, it's hard to compete with that. And I don't think
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you're going to get the same answer. Would you rather have the $20,000 forgiveness for your student
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loans? Or would you rather have a balanced budget? I think most people in that age group are going to
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say, hey, you know what, I'll take the 20 grand and get it off my back. The Republicans keep getting
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outmaneuvered, both politically on Capitol Hill, legislatively, even their parliamentary skills need
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some help as well. I mean, we're talking about a party that is bereft of intelligent, original thinking.
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They don't have such a leader within the party itself on Capitol Hill.
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Well, I tell you that about going back to the student loan issue, one of our clients, the Job Creators
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Network, challenged that in court. And it's going to go to the Supreme Court now because it's been
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blocked, because the president doesn't have the power to forgive that money. And he was doing it.
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The same part is he was doing it just to buy votes. And these millennials or Gen Zers that thought
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they were going to get this break, it's not going to happen. Because in the poll that we do for the
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Job Creators Network, a 500, we do a scientific poll of 500 small business owners across America every
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month, you've got over two thirds of those, those small business owners saying it's not right for,
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it's not right for taxpayers to be asked to pay off this debt from other people.
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And so the majority, what's amazing is the Republicans and individual candidates have,
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they've stood up to this because it's immoral to basically take people who didn't go to college
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or people who went to college and paid off their loans and basically say, we're going to pay off
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this for a system where you've got a liberal education system living off this large S where
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they're, they're indoctrinating, you know, people who go to universities about, you know,
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these liberal policies and the government is subsidizing, you know, this kind of, you know,
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liberal spending. And it's, and it's really just, it's bizarre. I mean, it's just bizarre.
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It absolutely is not. And, and responsible, I believe bearing great responsibility for that,
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John is the Republican party itself, because what you've just described is a double whammy
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of, uh, of intellectual deficit on the part of the Republicans. Not only did Biden come out and
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say, I'm going to give you $20,000. He knew damn well that the courts were going to say no.
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So he got to sell the car, then take it back from, from those guys and didn't have to pay for anything
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to buy their vote. I mean, it gets slicker than that. And the Republicans are walking around saying,
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wait a minute, inflation is high. Wait a minute. We've got problems here. Ball. I, you know,
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the fact of the matter is this government is shoving so much money at people in a, in a situation where
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you've also got Larry Kudlow and Stephen Moore telling everybody how crappy the economy is.
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Here's a little secret for you. This economy is, is, is going through difficulty. We've got a lot
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of people who are having to pay higher prices, but the reality is Biden also took 180 million
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barrels of oil out of the strategic petroleum reserve, sold a few bill, a few million barrels
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to the Chinese just for old time's sake. And by the way, the gas prices are down from a year ago.
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Uh, the Republicans have been outsmarted at every turn period. Uh, the, the economy is much stronger.
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It's, you know, it's an open question whether we're going into recession or not. It is not an open
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question that inflation is subsiding enough. No, but lower. Yes. And I'm so tired of watching the,
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you know, the, uh, reflexive orthodoxy of the supply side economic class, but you know, they're peddling
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bull. It's outright bull. And they've got to come to terms with it. Banks are making a fortune right
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now. They're driving rates. They've got profits. They're moving good. Everything's hunky dory.
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Housing's got a problem, but rates are down right now. Give us a couple of months. Rates will be down
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further. Uh, it's time for people to try. I know that the Democrats make it tough because they lie
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through their teeth all the time. The Republicans are doing pretty, they're doing a lot to try to
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catch up to them when it comes to BSing the American public. Well, I mean, it's only so far
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could go. I mean, there's backbenchers as people running for Congress and there will be people in
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the Senate that realize that we should have won the Senate and they'll be coming out this time. And
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you know, as far as when you're talking about the statistics, the voters already think we're in a
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recession. The voters don't see interest rates getting better. It's getting worse for them.
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The credit card debt in the country has gone up. These people are, are, you know, I mean, I mean,
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they're, they're, they're pessimistic and that's not good. And you think about it, it's Christmas
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season, Christmas. By the way, 65% of those small business owners in our job creators network survey
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told us that they're concerned that they may go out of business. I mean, this was, when you think
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about the optimism coming off of, as the economy reopened, as Trump left the country, uh, you know,
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as he left, stepped down as president, you had a growing economy. People thought things were going to
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get better. And every, everything Biden has done has been to undermine that. And then they try to
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sandbag us into thinking that things are good and people know better and they just need leadership
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to, to really take them on. Like, for example, I mean, the Republicans right out of the gate,
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the reason they want to, you know, be able to change the budget, they got to get rid of the 87,000
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IRS agents that are going to come. They got more IRS agents than FBI agents. They'll be like
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stationing one with every business and small business in America. It'll be just nuts. Waiters,
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waitresses, people, small people, little people, people own hair salons, barbershops. They'll be
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getting IRS visits to make sure they're paying all their taxes. Yeah. It's terrible, but you know,
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who, but here's, here's the rest of that deal. They've already brought in a third of them.
00:27:58.880
So they're going to have to, uh, figure out if they're going to have the guts in the house of
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representatives to shut them down. I think it's an open question is whether or not, uh, the, uh,
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appropriations committee and ways and means will have the guts to actually take action. Uh,
00:28:15.760
because Republicans have done so much talking and blathering and they didn't have to say a word
00:28:20.400
because Donald Trump was doing most of the talking throughout his four years. Uh, and,
00:28:25.280
and he had to make all the tough decisions. Uh, this is a time where this Congress,
00:28:29.940
the Republicans have a lousy record when they're not in power. Uh, they have, they're slightly better
00:28:35.960
when they are, but I just don't know where it, uh, ends up. Uh, and you're talking about Trump and 24,
00:28:43.100
uh, and the primaries, uh, is already underway, as you pointed out. Uh, here's a man who is being,
00:28:52.680
you know, just brutally bashed by every, from every quarter by the Marxist Dems and the Republicans,
00:29:00.160
because of their feckless leadership, aren't defending him. Where does he turn for defense,
00:29:05.500
for support, uh, and, and occasionally maybe just, uh, just a little security, uh, that he will not be
00:29:13.100
bludgeoned by the national corporate media, the, uh, it's not corporate America anymore. It's corporate
00:29:19.700
global, uh, and, uh, wall street, uh, and of course the Marxist Dems. You know, in that national poll that
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we just released, only 39% of voters were aware of the Twitter files, 50% of the Republicans, 37%
00:29:37.080
of the independents, 30% of the, uh, Democrats. So the censorship continues, big tech, big media,
00:29:44.640
they don't want to give Donald Trump any favorable coverage. Uh, they are, are to the extent they're
00:29:50.740
covering, uh, what's going on at Twitter. They're bashing Elon Musk precisely because he's definitely
00:29:57.020
caught them colluding. Uh, you know, I mean, these emails that Musk is releasing the emails from the
00:30:03.520
FBI, uh, and emails from Democrat operatives and the DNC and the Biden campaign, uh, telling us that,
00:30:13.040
you know, the Hunter Biden laptop was, uh, uh, was Russian disinformation when they knew it was a lie.
00:30:20.480
And they knew at the time in 2020 that if the voters found out about it, they would vote
00:30:25.880
for Trump or not vote for Biden. We had 36% of Biden voters on election day in 2020 were not aware
00:30:33.040
of the Hunter Biden laptop scandal. And if they had been enough, would have walked away from Biden
00:30:38.660
that Trump would have been reelected president. And so what, what did they do? You talk about
00:30:44.400
election interference. They suspended the president of the United States right to free speech on Twitter.
00:30:50.100
They suspended freedom of the press for the New York post on Twitter and the government allowed
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it to happen and colluded with them. The FBI was colluding on this. So, you know, we're in a fight
00:31:02.640
for freedom. We're in a fight for democracy here. And it's the exact opposite of what big tech and big
00:31:09.020
media are telling us. Well, let me tell you what the big media just told me. President Trump has been
00:31:15.360
referred to the Department of Justice for criminal prosecution by the January 6th committee.
00:31:21.500
That is just broken. Now, we know a couple of things.
00:31:26.260
Well, those numbers will go up in the polls for sure.
00:31:29.520
Well, no doubt. But I think that it's about time for people to let their temperatures get a little
00:31:35.640
higher. This is outrageous. It is disgusting. They're checking into two things. One, the Mar-a-Lago
00:31:44.040
raid and the documents, right? We know for a fact that that was an illegal search and seizure by the
00:31:50.800
FBI at a totally politically motivated moment. And everything else about it is just pure nonsense.
00:32:02.040
And we're assured that, by the way, he will be criminally referred because Merrick Garland is a
00:32:08.760
corrupt criminal who also happens to be the attorney general of the United States. Your reaction?
00:32:15.680
Well, Garland's been covering up for Hunter Biden. It's amazing.
00:32:18.940
They've got the goods on Hunter Biden and President Biden, and they're just the cover up continues.
00:32:24.380
As far as President Trump goes, you know, this is this is all to stop him from being reelected because
00:32:30.520
he's ahead in the polls and they have to do something. So this is what they're going to do.
00:32:34.900
And it's sad for the state of American democracy. But, you know, the other part and this this whole
00:32:40.940
January 6th committee, it's a kangaroo court. There's no supporters on that. They wouldn't put
00:32:46.060
Jim Jordan on it. There's no Trump supporters at all. It's it's it's you know, this is it. The
00:32:51.720
report's out. They make the referral. If Merrick Garland, if he indicts President Trump, there will be
00:32:58.240
such a backlash in the country because Trump is likely to be the nominee regardless. And
00:33:03.600
and and Garland, if he does this, you know, I mean, this is just to me, it's just a terrible,
00:33:11.720
terrible miscarriage of justice. So, you know, they have. But but what have they done for seven?
00:33:17.660
This is the seventh year of a political persecution of a president. This isn't a one off.
00:33:23.160
This is a president who the FBI and the Department of Justice and the Democratic National Committee
00:33:28.980
and the Hillary Clinton Committee have worked to frame to stop his his candidacy and then to overthrow
00:33:38.520
and destroy his presidency. I mean, this is not this is a level of corruption that no one ever dreamed
00:33:46.240
this country could reach. And the Republicans haven't fought one iota in it in support of
00:33:54.240
and in favor of this president and against the Dems. The Republicans aren't here. They're not even
00:34:00.540
showing up for show, let alone go. Well, by the way, you hit the magic word on that. It's corruption.
00:34:07.580
And when you look at the kind of corruption that that and by the way, the majority on our on our
00:34:14.980
analysis of our poll, the majority of Americans, 54 percent, think that there's been this collusion
00:34:20.780
among among the they would likely swing if there was more coverage of the Twitter files,
00:34:26.100
they would swing against Biden towards Donald Trump. That's why they're covering it up. And this
00:34:32.500
is more of a diversion against there's more of a diversion against President Trump. So that precisely
00:34:40.220
so that Hunter Biden is not investigated and the corruption, what they've done, it's so sad what
00:34:46.220
they've done at the top of the FBI. So sad what they've gotten away with inside the federal government
00:34:52.160
and the Justice Department. And now they would weaponize the Justice Department against their
00:34:57.500
political opponents. This is the kind of stuff you see in third world countries. And we're seeing in the
00:35:01.960
United States of America. Well, it is it is outrageous. It is to me stupefying to think that
00:35:12.840
the American people have become so apathetic, so passive that they do not respond. And the Republican
00:35:19.740
Party has a is a is a gathering of the most gutless, unprincipled representatives for the American
00:35:29.720
people. I believe in our history. I think it has to be said they haven't demonstrated strength, integrity,
00:35:37.160
energy or originality in any form of strategy, let alone action. So what is kind of we can conclude on
00:35:46.840
this, if we may, John, what is the answer for the Republican Party to support President Donald Trump
00:35:54.040
and to go after from a majority in the House alone, to go after the Marxist stems who are destroying
00:36:01.600
this nation? I will tell you that those there are courageous leaders in the House that do want to
00:36:08.620
get to the bottom of the Biden family corruption and public opinion United States and our latest
00:36:14.320
poll is with them. Fifty four percent say that Biden and his family are compromised because they've
00:36:19.400
accepted millions of dollars from interests of Russia, China and Ukraine. Only thirty percent said
00:36:24.120
no. So you're going to see leaders like Jim Jordan, Jim Banks, you'll see others where they want to get
00:36:30.560
to the bottom of this. And as they get to the bottom of this, the media, big media, big tech will try to
00:36:36.200
censor them. But the majority already is aware of this and we've got to keep it percolating and we've got
00:36:41.700
to get the facts out there because, I mean, if anybody should be indicted, it may just be the Biden
00:36:48.500
family that should be indicted. And this this president that's sitting there should be the one
00:36:52.400
that should be considered for for impeachment. But let's get to the facts out there.
00:36:58.420
Yeah, I can tell you that I've known the facts since 2017 about
00:37:04.100
about Russiagate. The president, much of the congressional leadership, Republican congressional
00:37:12.800
leadership has known. I believe the American public now are pretty well informed. What is deeply disturbing
00:37:19.540
is knowing what we know. And that is, as you would as you intimate, is enough to to prosecute the people
00:37:28.540
who are prosecuting, persecuting Donald Trump. The Republicans haven't had an answer. And and that's a
00:37:37.000
shame. That's a disgrace. And that's what the party has to overcome, because we don't have two years
00:37:43.180
to to, quote unquote, educate the public. The public's pretty well educated. They know neither
00:37:49.640
party is worth worth very much right now because the Republicans are not taking action and all the
00:37:57.980
Democrats are doing is running the country into the ground. John McLaughlin, it's always, always great to
00:38:05.820
have you with us. I want to give you the last word here. And thank you for being with us is always
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here. You get your concluding thoughts, if you will. I conclude those keep getting the truth out because
00:38:17.240
it's just essential to the future of democracy and freedom in America right now. And with that,
00:38:23.920
thank you for the opportunity. I just want to wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Look forward
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to seeing you in the new year. John McLaughlin, McLaughlin and Associates, Great American.
00:38:34.320
Thanks, everybody, for being with us today. Here tomorrow will be the former Commissioner of U.S.
00:38:39.520
Customs and Border Protection. Mark Morgan will be examining the crisis on our southern border
00:38:45.700
and the leadership crisis in Washington. Please be with us. Until then, thank you. God bless you.