The Great America Show - THE MOST CORRUPT FIRST FAMILY IN HISTORY LOOKS TO FINISH THEIR DIRTY WORK

00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody, and welcome to The Great American Show.

00:00:05.140 It's great to have you with us.

00:00:06.220 Thanks so much for joining us today.

00:00:08.580 So Joe Biden's set to leave office in just a few days now.

00:00:11.980 President Trump taking the reins back of power, January 20th, this Monday coming up.

00:00:17.080 It can't come soon enough.

00:00:19.240 But just before Joe Biden's leaving office, the man who's been responsible for investigating

00:00:24.220 his son and the family's crime business, Special Counsel David Weiss, has released a

00:00:29.660 27-page report going after the Biden family and slamming Joe Biden for giving his son

00:00:37.360 a pardon.

00:00:38.320 It was David Weiss, Special Counsel David Weiss, who was responsible for investigating the

00:00:42.540 Biden crime family, for laying out the crimes and making a case where this man could have

00:00:47.800 been prosecuted.

00:00:48.580 He waited until the 11th hour to bring charges against Heather Biden, which are absolutely

00:00:53.800 going nowhere because he's been pardoned by Joe Biden.

00:00:55.900 But the question is, you know, this man comes out here and slams Joe Biden for pardoning

00:01:00.900 his son.

00:01:01.680 Why did David Weiss wait three and a half years to bring any charges against Hunter Biden when

00:01:06.420 he had the evidence on day one when Joe Biden took office?

00:01:10.780 It's a question we all want to know.

00:01:13.180 Our guest today has put out over a 600-page report on the Hunter Biden crime family, on the

00:01:19.460 Biden crime family, and on the Hunter Biden laptop.

00:01:21.320 His name is Garrett Ziegler, and he's the founder of Marco Polo 501c3, and he's the author of

00:01:28.200 the report on the Biden laptop.

00:01:31.840 Garrett, it's great to have you here on The Great America Show.

00:01:34.060 I appreciate you joining us the last time you were on here.

00:01:36.460 You had the honor and pleasure of speaking with the great Lou Dobbs, and I like to think

00:01:40.680 we're doing a good job here filling in the big shoes he left behind.

00:01:44.780 I want to start with first the news of the week.

00:01:47.920 The Senate confirmation hearings are underway on Monday.

00:01:52.200 It was, I'm sorry, rather it was Tuesday.

00:01:54.960 We had Pete Hegseth there.

00:01:56.560 I want to play a clip for the audience on what Hegseth was dealing with with the Marxist

00:02:00.340 Dems, and then we'll go a little bit further in.

00:02:02.600 But the question I have for you on this is, will you put your money where your mouth is

00:02:06.340 and agree that when you leave this job, you will not work for the defense industry for

00:02:11.920 10 years?

00:02:13.580 Senator, it's not even a question I've thought about because it's not.

00:02:16.820 Think about it right now.

00:02:17.600 It's not one, my motivation for this job has never been about what could conceivably

00:02:23.820 come next.

00:02:24.760 Time is short.

00:02:25.600 I just need a yes or no.

00:02:27.040 I would consult with the president about what the policy should be at the Defense Department.

00:02:30.140 In other words, you're quite sure that every general who serves should not go directly

00:02:37.160 into the defense industry for 10 years?

00:02:39.700 You're not willing to make that same pledge?

00:02:42.680 I'm not a general, Senator.

00:02:44.220 So, Garrett, that was Pocahontas on Tuesday.

00:02:50.440 But it didn't get much better for the Democrats as it went into Wednesday.

00:02:55.100 We'll take the clip of the day for Wednesday.

00:02:57.660 And that was when Pam Bonney had this exchange with Pencil Neck Adam Schiff.

00:03:01.460 Will it be your advice to the president?

00:03:03.620 No, Mr. President, I need to go over them on a case-by-case basis.

00:03:07.680 Do not issue blanket pardons.

00:03:09.880 Will that be your advice to the president?

00:03:11.840 Senator, I have not looked at any of those files.

00:03:14.800 If confirmed, I will look at the files for the pardons.

00:03:17.280 And will you be able to review hundreds of cases on day one?

00:03:22.060 I will look at every file I am asked to look at.

00:03:24.480 Of course you won't.

00:03:25.120 So will you advise the president?

00:03:26.540 Can I answer the question?

00:03:27.900 Well, my question is...

00:03:28.340 I would have plenty of staff.

00:03:29.720 You said, of course you want?

00:03:31.300 You'll be able to review hundreds of cases on Thursday?

00:03:32.940 Listen, I'm not going to mislead this body, nor you.

00:03:37.700 All right, let me ask another question.

00:03:39.160 You don't want to answer that.

00:03:39.920 Let me answer another question.

00:03:40.680 You were censured by Congress, Senator, for comments just like this that are so reckless. 1.00

00:03:44.400 So, pencil neck Adam Schiff being the idiot of the day on Wednesday, Garrett. 1.00

00:03:50.540 It's unbelievable. 0.99

00:03:51.480 And what they were talking about was the pardons of the J-6ers. 1.00

00:03:54.020 You and I, in just a little bit, we're going to be talking about pardons, all right.

00:03:57.300 But I want to get your thoughts first as we get into it and stop talking here and give

00:04:01.000 you the floor on your thoughts as we now enter into day three of the Senate confirmations

00:04:05.420 on President Trump's cabinet nominees.

00:04:08.660 Well, first of all, thanks for having me on.

00:04:10.420 I do miss Lou.

00:04:11.340 The last time we spoke was in June of 24.

00:04:14.400 And turning to Pete Hegseth, I would grade his performance an A.

00:04:18.900 I don't think it could be much better than what he did.

00:04:22.240 I mean, obviously, dealing with a lot of Karens, with Pocahontas and Hirono and all these 0.89

00:04:28.760 other people. 0.57

00:04:29.560 I mean, these are insufferable hags, and he did what he could. 1.00

00:04:34.680 I was very pleased with him staying strong about women in combat.

00:04:39.300 I'm very passionate about that.

00:04:40.820 We're not saying women can't do paperwork jobs in the military, but only non-serious 1.00

00:04:45.240 countries believe that there are no differences between men and women at a muscle mass level.

00:04:50.640 I mean, it'd be like having – just even thinking about my wife carrying an M-16 is laughable,

00:04:56.340 right?

00:04:56.540 So I'm very glad that he stayed firm on that.

00:04:59.760 With Schiff, I mean, he's sort of a demonic, rodent-like figure, and I think Bondi did the

00:05:06.160 best she could.

00:05:06.900 Although, if I'm grading the ones that have occurred so far, I think Hegseth gets in 52

00:05:12.380 to 48, just considering how corrupt the U.S. Senate is. 0.99

00:05:16.720 But I'm looking forward also to Kash Patel's confirmation hearing because Schiff and everybody

00:05:25.660 else, they were very, very worked up in asking Bondi about Kash Patel when they're going to

00:05:31.460 get their shot at him.

00:05:32.920 And I don't think – I think Bondi is more reserved.

00:05:37.320 You know, she's sort of an establishment figure in American politics and in Flirtian politics. 1.00

00:05:42.780 Sorry, that's my boy.

00:05:44.460 And I think that Kash Patel will be less reserved.

00:05:50.940 And basically, I talk to Schiff like you and I would, which is this is not a person who

00:05:57.060 deserves respect or deference or anything like that.

00:06:01.000 Yeah.

00:06:01.600 You mentioned you got your son over there.

00:06:03.720 People, this is an authentic show.

00:06:05.360 Well, you see, we don't cut anything out here with the guest say.

00:06:08.360 I told him we had an interview of five.

00:06:10.740 He didn't get the memo.

00:06:11.940 It's all right.

00:06:12.280 We'll give him a pass this time.

00:06:14.160 He's probably – and I was just going to say he's probably got a higher IQ than Adam

00:06:18.260 Schiff.

00:06:18.820 You know, it's funny.

00:06:19.340 Before the show, we were talking about triple-digit and double-digit IQs.

00:06:22.660 The saddest part about it is most of those Democrats, some of the rhino Republicans, too, 1.00

00:06:26.760 on that dais of people questioning these folks, don't even hold triple-digit IQs themselves.

00:06:33.740 They get questions from staffs like Pocahontas. 1.00

00:06:36.980 I mean, asking that question about generals was probably a question she was reading.

00:06:40.760 You and I worked in D.C.

00:06:42.580 You know, a lot of times you do prep work for your boss and you give it to them.

00:06:47.000 Most of the time, your boss is smart enough to read it beforehand to understand the line

00:06:51.480 of questioning and where a rebuttal can come.

00:06:54.100 It's clear that they didn't.

00:06:55.680 But it's truly troubling to me how this moves forward.

00:07:00.540 You mentioned Cash Patel.

00:07:01.900 He's one of the ones that I really do look forward to because I know Cash personally.

00:07:06.460 I'm sure you've known him or met him a few times.

00:07:09.740 He's a man of his word, I believe.

00:07:12.100 When it comes to cleaning up the FBI, like I said, in a few minutes we're going to talk

00:07:16.560 about pardons and everything that had to do with Hunter Biden, folks.

00:07:19.540 Garrett, he's the founder of Marco Polo 501c3.

00:07:23.800 It's the organization that put out a rather lengthy report on the Hunter Biden laptop.

00:07:29.680 For those of you who are joining us on video right here, you can see the thickness.

00:07:33.700 Go ahead and hold it on the side.

00:07:35.580 644 pages.

00:07:37.000 So that was authored by Garrett Ziegler himself, every single one of those pages.

00:07:42.500 So he knows the Hunter Bidens and the Biden family perhaps better than anybody.

00:07:47.260 But I do want to get to Cash Patel before we get into that.

00:07:51.520 Cash has promised before he was even given the opportunity to be the nominee for the FBI

00:07:56.660 that he wants to clean this thing up.

00:07:59.220 He wants to drain it.

00:08:00.120 He wants the building out of D.C., that new building that they've funded hundreds of millions

00:08:04.660 of dollars for.

00:08:05.260 He wants it gone out of D.C.

00:08:07.760 Do you think it's possible to get the politicization out of the FBI and to get these folks back to

00:08:13.200 doing the job that 20 years ago they were doing?

00:08:16.460 So a couple of key points.

00:08:19.840 Number one, you said the new building.

00:08:23.300 It's a complete monstrosity.

00:08:26.040 It is it'll be around a billion dollars for the entire structure.

00:08:30.640 And it's in Greenbelt, Maryland.

00:08:32.480 It will create a new ecosystem of grifting up there.

00:08:36.020 That county will become probably the top earning county in the country.

00:08:39.360 It has to cease.

00:08:40.820 We cannot go through with that.

00:08:42.580 I don't give it I don't care what ground they've broken or anything.

00:08:45.880 I don't think that writ large, you can get this politicization out of the FBI.

00:08:52.060 I think that you can hope to tame it a little bit.

00:08:55.680 But I am of the firm belief that it's not just a seventh floor problem.

00:08:59.800 It is a field office issue.

00:09:02.400 It's like a cancer that has spread to the very end of the appendages.

00:09:07.140 And so it's not just a surgery that's going to require, you know, fine tuning around the edges or just one scalpel.

00:09:17.100 If it were a seventh floor problem entirely and just the leadership, I would feel pretty good about keeping the FBI.

00:09:24.280 But that memo that was authored in 2022 out of Richmond about Catholics, about trying to find confidential human sources within individual Catholic parishes, that was a field office creation.

00:09:38.700 So it's these individual field offices that have mental health days and equity days.

00:09:47.160 This is a cancer that is so far gone that Kash Patel should be thinking about how the Congress decommissions the FBI.

00:09:55.620 And I have a plan, by the way.

00:09:56.840 This is bold, but we have a plan.

00:10:00.280 One of my obsessions with Peter was taming the bureaucracy.

00:10:03.860 We fought Treasury and CBP so much that we could give half of the budget to the U.S. Marshals and half of the FBI's budget to the individual state police forces.

00:10:16.140 And anything federal can be done by the Marshals.

00:10:18.740 They're the only law enforcement entity even listed in the Constitution.

00:10:23.500 They've been around since 1789.

00:10:25.320 Of the corrupt institutions in D.C., in the country, it's at the lower fifth of the list, meaning there are bad actors in the Marshals Service, but it doesn't even compare to the FBI.

00:10:37.500 So my answer is a long-winded one in that we know what to do, and we can imagine an America without the FBI.

00:10:45.580 Bureaucracies have been disbanded before.

00:10:48.320 There's no reason why the FBI should be presumed to be in effect ad infinitum.

00:10:54.840 We can do this by 2028.

00:10:58.160 Yeah, you're absolutely right.

00:10:59.640 And you know what?

00:10:59.940 You just brought up a great point.

00:11:01.580 I knew I was going to like you when I started talking to you before the interview, but you had mentioned something that I mentioned to everybody.

00:11:07.580 I bring on this show to talk about the FBI, and I've mentioned it to former FBI agents, special agents who come on this broadcast.

00:11:15.980 The rot is not only on the seventh floor, and I use this analogy, Garrett.

00:11:19.520 If there's a dead fish or a dead rat or a dead skunk on the seventh floor of any building, it's going to seep down to the sixth floor.

00:11:26.280 It's going to seep down to the fifth floor.

00:11:27.620 It's going to seep down to the fourth floor.

00:11:29.020 It's going to go to the eighth floor.

00:11:30.200 It's going to go to the ninth floor, and it's going to go to the tenth floor.

00:11:32.620 At some point, it'll stop.

00:11:34.500 And at that point, it will stop smelling.

00:11:38.180 And at that point, it's probably your lowest level rank FBI officials, not special agents.

00:11:43.640 I guess Lois is just an FBI agent, right?

00:11:46.200 So they obviously don't know what James Comey or Robert Mueller or Christopher Wray is cooking up on the seventh floor.

00:11:53.940 But the guys on the sixth floor and the fifth floor doing it trickles down.

00:11:58.700 So what puzzles me is you often hear people say the rank and file guys, they're not the problem.

00:12:04.460 They're not the problem.

00:12:05.200 Well, the rank and file guys, I hate to break it to you folks, and this is what we're going to turn to next, worked on Hunter Biden's file.

00:12:11.920 They worked on these Catholic school cases.

00:12:15.500 They worked on domestic terrorist parents' cases.

00:12:19.520 So you want to sit here and tell me the rank and file folks, they're the good guys.

00:12:23.240 They don't mean any harm.

00:12:24.220 They just go to work, and they get their six-figure salary.

00:12:27.320 And after 20 years, they're going to get their six-figure pension.

00:12:30.040 And they go to work on time, and they get their overtime, and they lie about overtime.

00:12:34.240 So the FBI gets a bigger budget, and you're telling me these are all good guys.

00:12:38.260 Now, don't get me wrong, Garrett.

00:12:39.940 There are good people there.

00:12:41.380 There's good people everywhere, right?

00:12:44.400 But for the most part, these folks in D.C. are all bad apples.

00:12:49.200 So I couldn't agree more.

00:12:50.820 The good folks are a very, very small minority because every day, by virtue of not having dozens of whistleblowers over the past four years,

00:13:01.060 if those people were good folks, they couldn't have been at work during Biden's regime without blowing the whistle.

00:13:08.020 It was so bad.

00:13:09.820 And every day they decided to stay quiet, just like people say we should avoid political discussions.

00:13:18.660 That is totally ridiculous because every political decision is a moral decision.

00:13:25.620 So therefore, every time somebody decides to stay silent, they are choosing the security of their pension and the gibbs that they've been given from the federal teat over telling the truth.

00:13:40.780 And that is why, you know, we have 94 U.S. attorneys, 94 different judicial districts in the country.

00:13:49.240 We have 92 FBI field offices, 92.

00:13:53.440 Even if cash were to clean up 40 of them, which is a big task, that's still more than half are totally gone.

00:14:01.540 I mean, think about the value of diversity.

00:14:04.620 Since Obama, every FBI field office, because this wasn't touched in the first term, has stated that diversity is a core value of the FBI.

00:14:16.160 That propaganda, that level of cancer has spread so thoroughly throughout the organism that if you try to get rid of that, which is just, right, I don't believe in diversity.

00:14:25.520 You don't believe in diversity.

00:14:26.500 Diversity is not a goal.

00:14:28.120 It should be unity.

00:14:29.000 I don't think there's any long-term reform.

00:14:34.220 And so I'm going to be pushing – I only met a cash a couple times.

00:14:37.900 I was on the White House slow-pitch softball team with him.

00:14:40.700 He was competitive even in that, hilariously.

00:14:44.220 But so he knows me, and he knows I work for Peter principally.

00:14:47.920 And I think that if, come June, he's talking about – if he's using the phrases, what do we want the FBI to look like at 2040, we will have failed.

00:14:59.420 Because I don't want the FBI to be in existence in 2040.

00:15:02.880 Right.

00:15:03.720 It's gone.

00:15:05.040 Right.

00:15:05.320 And sometimes there's some nostalgia for some form of a G-man who's honorable and untouchable. 0.84

00:15:13.480 But those people who are attracted to that, they can join the U.S. Marshals.

00:15:17.480 Right.

00:15:17.680 And I think that man-made institutions on this side of heaven can become a cancer, and they have to be done away with.

00:15:26.200 Yeah, there's some things you need to be at 40,000 feet on.

00:15:28.420 There's some things you need to be at 30,000, 20,000.

00:15:30.640 And this is, as you say, it's a granular issue that needs to be at ground level.

00:15:35.940 You had mentioned every decision is a political decision, and you couldn't be more right about that.

00:15:40.380 You vote Republican because you're pro-choice.

00:15:43.520 You like low taxes – I'm sorry, pro-life.

00:15:46.760 Low taxes, government out of your life, and you vote Democrat when you want chaos and high taxes and high inflation.

00:15:54.260 It doesn't get much simpler than that.

00:15:55.800 I want to take a quick break here.

00:15:57.000 We're talking with Garrett Ziegler.

00:15:58.100 He's the founder of Marco Polo, the 501c3, that authored a rather large book, over 600 pages, the report on Hunter Biden.

00:16:06.180 When we return, Garrett, I want to take up more FBI corruption and the role that they played in covering up for the Biden crime family.

00:16:16.240 How many people knew what they knew and at what point did they know?

00:16:19.400 We're going to take this all up when we return with Garrett.

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00:17:27.520 We're talking with Garrett Ziegler, and like I said, he's the founder of the 501c3 charity, Marco Polo.

00:17:34.980 They have this amazing report, the report on the Biden laptop.

00:17:39.040 Like I said, over 600 pages.

00:17:40.520 Garrett knows everything that went on with the Biden crime family, and that's what I want to turn to next, Garrett.

00:17:44.880 What role did the FBI play?

00:17:48.440 What did they know?

00:17:49.600 At what point did they know?

00:17:51.520 And how much did they cover up when it came to any aspect of crime by Hunter, by Joe, by Jim, by Ashley, by any of these Biden criminals?

00:18:03.800 They played a central role.

00:18:06.120 In fact, probably the biggest role besides the IRS.

00:18:10.580 They first became aware of this when they officially in mid-2018, although they were tracking Hunter since about 2013.

00:18:18.480 But the investigation in earnest started in 2018, and they received, via grand jury subpoena, a copy of his laptop on December 9th of 2019.

00:18:28.340 We have compiled, and it's the only place in the world where you can get it, a directory of every FBI agent involved in the Biden investigation.

00:18:37.200 It's on our website, marcopolo501c3.org.

00:18:40.460 We've created four directories, actually, one for the DOJ main justice, one for the FBI, one for the IRS, and one for the District of Delaware U.S. Attorney's Office.

00:18:51.580 And so there are about 35 agents who are involved in this, John.

00:18:56.160 And just like you said, only a couple of them are in leadership.

00:18:59.440 It's these lower-level folks who have enormous power, who still are able to make arrests, file affidavits in federal court for search warrants.

00:19:11.020 And all of these people, by either commission or omission, chose to slow walk, obstruct, and sit on their hands.

00:19:21.180 And what did they cover up in slow walk?

00:19:25.120 Clear felonies, Foreign Agent Registration Act, sex trafficking, money laundering, drug trafficking.

00:19:37.180 Hunter, by the way, not only bought drugs, but he sold them to other people.

00:19:41.860 The same kind of conduct that his dad instituted mandatory minimums for.

00:19:46.840 Five years.

00:19:47.860 We found a video from 1991 on C-SPAN.

00:19:51.500 It's now went viral.

00:19:52.520 We found it and put a side-by-side together of Hunter Biden smoking crack and receiving a foot job next to his daddy on the Senate floor in 1991 saying,

00:20:01.060 if you have a quarter of crack cocaine, you get five years in prison.

00:20:06.260 Judge doesn't have a choice.

00:20:07.500 That's a direct quote from Joe.

00:20:08.760 So you not only have the sentencing disparity, but you also have his son doing the exact thing that would require the tougher sentencing disparity.

00:20:23.720 So the FBI knew about this from the earliest, officially, is 2018.

00:20:29.760 That's what we have paper for.

00:20:31.820 But all throughout.

00:20:33.460 I mean, we list every single person that has come out through principally the IRS whistleblower disclosures.

00:20:40.760 And then in the criminal cases against Hunter, they called a couple IRS people to testify, and I was at that trial.

00:20:48.240 In fact, I think what got Lou's attention was Hunter's wife lost her mind and called me a Nazi outside of the courtroom. 1.00

00:20:55.220 And I told her, you know, anybody can observe judicial proceedings in America.

00:21:01.260 She's from South Africa, so she may not know that even though she got citizenship via Hunter.

00:21:06.100 She was sort of an anchor marriage situation too.

00:21:09.600 But the FBI is absolutely critical to this.

00:21:12.720 I think that – let's put it this way.

00:21:15.240 There's only one whistleblower who's come forward from the FBI, Joe Gordon, and he was on his way out.

00:21:20.400 He only blew the whistle after he had his 20 years in.

00:21:22.640 But Gary Shapley and Joe Ziegler, on the other hand, the IRS agents – and Ziegler is not related to me in any way – they both blew the whistle before they got their pension.

00:21:34.240 So the only two honorable folks in this are on the IRS side.

00:21:37.560 There's nothing that the FBI as an entity has done to bring justice to this situation, not a single one of them.

00:21:45.200 And when cash gets in, assuming he will, I think it'll be 51 to 49 or something, maybe J.D. will have to break a tie.

00:21:52.560 That – and I've already sent him the directory.

00:21:54.460 All of those people have to go.

00:21:56.300 And if they cannot go quickly, they have to be reassigned to writing, you know, thank you letters in a corner office in Greenbelt, Maryland.

00:22:07.680 They cannot work on any substantive policy issues.

00:22:10.780 I don't even think that's acceptable.

00:22:12.760 You know, I have a friend who I often have on the show.

00:22:14.760 You probably don't know him, but he's a man named Russ Tice.

00:22:17.400 And he's one of the people who blew the – one of the first people before Edward Snowden who blew the whistle on the Patriot Act.

00:22:24.200 And came out, blew a whistle.

00:22:25.760 He's a former senior NSA intel analyst.

00:22:28.280 Our audience knows him very well.

00:22:30.620 We have him on here quite a bit.

00:22:32.000 Just a fascinating fellow.

00:22:33.360 Air Force veteran.

00:22:34.860 Worked through the different ranks of the NSA.

00:22:37.620 I'll look him up.

00:22:38.600 Yeah, you got to look into Russ Tice.

00:22:40.540 Anyway, he blows a whistle on the Patriot Act.

00:22:42.800 And he tries to get it through the proper level.

00:22:44.600 He tries to – he goes to the government first.

00:22:46.820 The NSA, of course, finds out he goes to the government.

00:22:48.980 So what do you do after you go to the government and you can't, you know, get through them?

00:22:52.460 You have to go to the media.

00:22:53.360 So he went to the media and they put him on a car wash duty.

00:22:56.740 As a senior – a senior intel analyst for the NSA, they get him on car wash duty.

00:23:01.960 And actually, I correct myself.

00:23:03.760 This was before he went to the media.

00:23:05.200 So he goes – he tries to go through the ranks.

00:23:08.380 Then they – one day he says it's snowing down there and they have him cleaning snow off the cars.

00:23:12.160 And he goes, that was when I blew it and I couldn't take it anymore.

00:23:15.300 And that's when he went to the media.

00:23:16.700 It takes a special person to come out with testicular fortitude if you're a man or a gut if you're a woman or both.

00:23:23.680 To come out and risk it all for something.

00:23:26.680 I was at Fox News for many years with Lou and I worked for Lou. 0.52

00:23:30.080 And then after Lou was cowardly canceled by a bunch of cowards, I wound up working for Larry Kudlow.

00:23:35.580 And I had a conscience.

00:23:37.060 I couldn't work for this man who on his first day came in and said to the staff, we're not going to go on TV and put out what Donald Trump wants us to put on TV.

00:23:45.320 Says that to the staff in a meeting.

00:23:46.720 And I said, okay, that's fine if that's what you believe after just working for the man for four years.

00:23:50.680 But then to go out there that night and get on your knees for the guy, I'm saying to myself, hold on, that doesn't make much sense.

00:23:57.280 You just came here and preached to us all that you're not going to do this for this man.

00:24:01.560 And I sat there and I was unable to sit in meetings with the man every day.

00:24:05.120 Some of the stuff he was saying was just unbelievable.

00:24:07.400 So I got the hell out of there.

00:24:08.960 And I gave up working there probably for the rest of my life.

00:24:12.900 I gave up going on air there.

00:24:14.480 I was on air there.

00:24:15.760 So, you know, it's the risk that you have to take.

00:24:17.840 Shapley and Ziegler are the same thing.

00:24:20.160 These folks have it.

00:24:21.600 They gave up a pension.

00:24:22.720 They gave up their lives.

00:24:23.780 And their lives are ruined.

00:24:25.480 When you become a whistleblower, you may be a savior to some, but your life is over.

00:24:29.800 You're never getting a job again.

00:24:31.480 In some cases, you're losing your pension because whistleblower protections is a bunch of BS.

00:24:35.760 There's no such thing as whistleblower protection.

00:24:37.960 You're blackballed from every industry in this country.

00:24:40.260 You're blackballed from every job.

00:24:41.440 You probably can't even get a job at McDonald's.

00:24:43.320 That's how bad you're treated in this country.

00:24:45.600 That's what it goes to show how ridiculous Ciaramella's whistleblowing was because all these other people are saying Shapley's name all the time. 1.00

00:24:55.700 They're saying Ziegler's name all the time. 0.80

00:24:57.560 But Ciaramella was Voldemort.

00:24:59.920 We couldn't even talk about him.

00:25:01.840 And now he's employed at the Belfer Center at Harvard.

00:25:04.080 So that just goes to show that it was never about – his was just trying to launder it through the Vindman brothers and other things.

00:25:12.540 There was no real whistleblowing claim there by Ciaramella. 0.89

00:25:16.100 And that has a Biden connection.

00:25:19.580 He was Biden's key Ukrainian advisor.

00:25:22.840 When Hunter was on the board of Burisma, Eric Ciaramella was.

00:25:27.080 I agree with you entirely, though.

00:25:29.080 You have to have people willing to – you have to have insiders come forth.

00:25:33.500 Or it's very, very hard to know what – to end up knowing what happened.

00:25:38.140 That's why we can put together this directory.

00:25:40.900 And under each person's name, we included a hyperlink to the testimony by the IRS whistleblowers about how we know this person has been outed because DOJ investigated us criminally for doxing.

00:25:54.880 And one of the things our attorneys wrote to them is that in this directory, we included the link to the already public document showing that they were involved.

00:26:05.380 So there was no doxing involved.

00:26:07.180 We found it on congress.gov just like every other person who is a digger, right? 0.99

00:26:12.420 I mean we're basically a PI group.

00:26:14.740 The PI in North Carolina is the vice chairman of our board, and a lawyer is too.

00:26:20.700 We're – any good investigator would find the stuff that we did, and they accused us of doxing.

00:26:28.840 The fact of the matter is is that they put up the doxing defense because they don't want to be held accountable.

00:26:33.600 These FBI feds, these lower-level and middle-level people, they don't want anybody to know their name because that is the first step to accountability.

00:26:43.340 You know, when the name Eric Chiaramella came out, I remember we had gotten a message, an e-mail, probably in some document somewhere that was not FOIA'd but demanded from a lawsuit, one of the many lawsuits Fox is involved in right now.

00:27:00.020 And we were not to mention the name Eric Chiaramella.

00:27:03.840 So I'll never forget when the –

00:27:04.760 That came from Fox?

00:27:05.600 Yeah, there was a Fox News internal e-mail somewhere.

00:27:08.560 Listen, you're the investigator here.

00:27:10.720 If anyone can find it, it's you.

00:27:12.340 Do you have the e-mail?

00:27:14.040 I can go back and look.

00:27:15.600 They obviously canceled my e-mail.

00:27:17.200 They took my e-mail as soon as I left because they knew I was up to no good.

00:27:21.000 But there was an e-mail sent out, and there was another e-mail that you're going to get a kick out of this.

00:27:26.660 So there was an e-mail sent out, don't mention Eric Chiaramella.

00:27:29.040 So I see this e-mail, and I'm like, oh, no, we've got to make sure Lou doesn't find out who this guy Eric Chiaramella is because if he sees that we're not allowed to mention his name, Lou's going to go on air that night, and he's going to say, Eric Chiaramella is the whistleblower.

00:27:41.340 So I remember we put that in the mail because Lou didn't care.

00:27:44.800 Lou wanted to get the truth out to the American people. 0.98

00:27:47.460 He didn't care, which is why he was so cowardly. 0.65

00:27:51.740 What do they call it? 0.92

00:27:52.600 Canceled.

00:27:52.920 He was canceled.

00:27:53.420 Yeah.

00:27:53.940 And a little tip to anyone who doesn't know this.

00:27:57.600 I don't know if I've ever said it on the show before.

00:27:59.400 I don't know if Lou's ever said it on the show before.

00:28:02.020 Lou didn't know his show was being canceled.

00:28:04.340 It was leaked to the L.A. Times, and I had gotten a text message before.

00:28:08.880 Lou even got a text message that his show was canceled.

00:28:12.100 Nobody reached out to his agent.

00:28:13.620 Nobody at Fox.

00:28:14.880 Now, this is a man who gave many years, over 10 years, to Fox, the highest-rated show on television.

00:28:19.560 They claimed that advertisers were pulling out, which is total nonsense because Lou had numbers.

00:28:25.300 Bruce, and if you want to fact-check me on this, you can go pull the ratings.

00:28:28.200 There was beating CNN at the time on Fox Business.

00:28:31.600 His ratings were absolutely through the roof in the millions and never gave him a reason why they canceled the show.

00:28:38.100 But there are some documents, and this is another task here if you want to have some fun.

00:28:42.100 There are some documents that we were privy to in depositions that led us into why Lou was canceled.

00:28:49.420 And what I'll say is the Murdoch family did not really like Lou, and they didn't like the fact that they couldn't control him,

00:28:55.960 which is why you saw just about a year later, Garrett, Tucker Carlson.

00:28:59.560 And I will never forget, I have a text message on my phone saying to Lou Dobbs, they will never fire Tucker Carlson.

00:29:04.840 And Lou said to me, you wait and see.

00:29:07.000 And this was about a year before Tucker was fired.

00:29:09.440 And when that happened, when we saw this news, I said, oh, my God, I don't know how I'm going to tell Lou he was right,

00:29:14.180 because I often had to tell Lou and confess that he was right.

00:29:16.660 But getting back to the whistleblowers and back to some more Fox News stuff, Alexander Vindman came out.

00:29:22.700 He was a man who saved Ukraine.

00:29:24.460 He came out and blew the whistle.

00:29:26.080 And this man was paraded as a hero.

00:29:27.980 He actually got a cameo on Curb Your Enthusiasm.

00:29:30.760 I don't know if you watch the show.

00:29:31.880 Great show.

00:29:32.440 Larry Davis.

00:29:33.060 Mark just left this, but a great show.

00:29:35.100 He got a cameo on there and is paraded as this hero, as a good person.

00:29:39.860 He's a good person for blowing the whistle on Trump being corrupt with Ukraine when it was really Hunter Biden who was corrupt.

00:29:47.280 Is that right?

00:29:47.580 Precisely.

00:29:48.260 And Trump didn't know this.

00:29:49.980 He should have, but he didn't.

00:29:51.680 That the FBI and the IRS already had an active investigation into the exact matter that he asked Zelensky to look into.

00:30:01.240 And by the way, the chief law enforcement officer of the United States, as you know, is not the attorney general.

00:30:05.540 It's the president.

00:30:06.620 He's the one that swears that under his presidency, the laws will be faithfully executed.

00:30:13.020 So he had every right to ask them to look into this.

00:30:17.680 And so there was already an active investigation.

00:30:21.300 So this idea that Trump was doing something improper by asking his counterpart to look into this is preposterous.

00:30:29.300 And I'm going to keep saying Sarah Mella's name.

00:30:31.440 And I think that if anybody, not Liz Cheney, Benny Thompson, they obviously committed felonies, but it should be Sarah Mella who's leaving the country because I'm not going to forget about that guy.

00:30:41.000 And this is like the first time where we can really go after him.

00:30:44.300 And by going after him, I mean there's got to be some false statement charge or some other mechanism to hold him accountable.

00:30:50.300 What he did was he helped ruin the first Trump term. 0.92

00:30:54.000 Yeah, he did a damn good job.

00:30:56.560 President Trump would have been so much more prosperous and done a better – it's hard to imagine he could do a better job than the job he did with – but he couldn't have done it without people like you and people without Peter Navarro and some of the few loyalists who stayed with him, Stephen Miller. 0.70

00:31:10.600 There was only a few good men that –

00:31:12.420 Yeah, I'm so grateful that Peter's going to be in the same position again.

00:31:16.420 That's an answer to prayer.

00:31:19.080 Just hoping that we get a better Treasury Secretary.

00:31:21.540 We'll see.

00:31:22.220 I'm not going to be too – I don't know Scott Bessent, right?

00:31:26.600 So I'll just wait and see.

00:31:28.620 I'm going to take a couple weeks, and I try not to be too pessimistic.

00:31:32.080 I know that Mnuchin was terrible, so it'll be hard to be worse than Mnuchin.

00:31:37.820 Mnuchin fought Peter on tariffs, everything, and Kudlow, same way.

00:31:43.540 So we'll see.

00:31:45.200 And hopefully if the president – if some of these people are bad, the president will fire them more quickly than he did in the first term.

00:31:53.980 Yeah.

00:31:54.500 Mnuchin was out for himself and only himself.

00:31:57.300 Larry Kudlow was out for himself and only himself.

00:31:59.380 You want to see a good man, you go look at Peter Navarro.

00:32:02.380 Peter Navarro, I mean, went through hell and back for President Trump, and you know what?

00:32:06.740 He's back there knowing what's at stake.

00:32:09.220 They got the guy in leg shackles, went to prison.

00:32:12.560 I saw Peter before he went to prison in March of last year, and I've known him for a while.

00:32:19.420 And to see Peter, like, defeated, it was like – it was so disheartening for me because I know the man he is.

00:32:25.200 You know the man he is.

00:32:26.000 Peter is the kind of guy, like, if you bark at him on the side of the street, he's not going to keep walking.

00:32:30.420 Peter is going to turn around and put some fists up because he's a – you know, he's not a – he's not a little – I won't even curse.

00:32:36.660 I'm trying not to curse.

00:32:37.320 Yeah, he's – he's the real deal.

00:32:39.740 Right.

00:32:40.160 And, you know –

00:32:43.400 There's not many like him.

00:32:44.820 Not many like him at all.

00:32:46.140 And going back to the FBI real quick, the gentleman responsible for that fiasco at Reagan International Airport, Reagan National Airport, Walter Giordano, that's the FBI agent I got my sights on.

00:32:59.560 And he has to be fired day one.

00:33:01.340 He cannot continue to work in the federal government.

00:33:03.440 So let me ask you before we go to a quick break here, and on the other side of the break, I want to take up – there's so much to take up.

00:33:09.480 I want to go into the J6 committee.

00:33:11.220 I want to go into – get your thoughts on David Weiss's final report on the Hunter Biden investigation.

00:33:17.240 And I want to go and tell you that second story I promised you about Fox News in regards to 10% for the big guy.

00:33:23.760 But I want to go a little bit further into that if we can.

00:33:28.820 You know, let's take a quick break here.

00:33:31.020 We're coming back because I want to spend some time on that.

00:33:33.860 I don't want to be cut up against a break here.

00:33:35.240 So we're coming back with Garrett Ziegler, folks.

00:33:37.020 Stay with us.

00:33:37.960 He is the founder of the Marco Polo Group.

00:33:40.580 Follow them on Twitter.

00:33:41.820 What's your website, Garrett?

00:33:45.460 MarcoPolo501c3.org.

00:33:47.000 We encourage you to go there, folks.

00:33:48.500 You can get your very own copy on the report on the Biden laptop.

00:33:51.760 We recommend it, you know, as a gift for maybe one of your Marxist friends.

00:33:55.920 Or if you want to do some light reading, there's 600 pages.

00:33:58.600 You can read a page a day, two pages a day, whatever you want.

00:34:01.980 I've read it online.

00:34:02.920 It's absolutely remarkable.

00:34:04.560 Yeah, and the e-reader's online for free, which we're very proud of.

00:34:07.940 What's better than free?

00:34:09.080 Now, we encourage you to go out and buy the copy.

00:34:11.380 But you know what?

00:34:12.660 If you're so inclined, the free version is available as well.

00:34:15.140 We're coming right back with Garrett, folks.

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00:35:16.640 Face America!

00:35:21.500 Folks, we're back with Garrett Ziegler.

00:35:22.980 As I said, he's the founder of Marco Polo, the 501c3.

00:35:26.280 We recommend all of his work to you, Hailey.

00:35:28.940 He does an absolutely terrific job.

00:35:30.460 You can follow him on Twitter or head to his website.

00:35:33.060 Garrett, I want to turn back to something we were talking about before we went to break.

00:35:36.160 You mentioned a bunch, and I had actually never even thought of this until you brought it up. 0.54

00:35:40.560 And it's something so small and so dumb, I can't believe I didn't think of it. 0.99

00:35:44.200 You're probably just smarter than me. 0.99

00:35:46.180 Can we track down those FBI agents?

00:35:48.980 Can we get a list together of those FBI agents who, one, hid all the Hunter Biden corruption,

00:35:54.260 the Joe Biden corruption, the Jim Biden corruption, and the FBI agents who went after those school board

00:35:58.460 parents, who went after Peter Navarro and Lake Shackles, who went after Steve Bannon to get him off of a boat,

00:36:03.180 to bring him in because he's such a dangerous criminal, and the rest of these folks they went after.

00:36:08.560 Can we get a list of these people and bring them into Congress, bring them into somewhere,

00:36:14.360 sit these people down in a chair and figure out what was going through their mind,

00:36:18.060 who told them to do what, and what played out?

00:36:20.480 We absolutely can.

00:36:22.920 We have the list for one of those groups already.

00:36:24.920 We don't have it for the Catholic trackers, I'll call them, the FBI Catholic parish trackers. 0.98

00:36:31.620 It's very simple.

00:36:32.760 You, once Cash Patel takes power, you have to tell the general counsel's office, the FBI,

00:36:38.220 to stand down that these people can talk to Congress.

00:36:41.140 Because right now, at a practical level, because I'm a nerd, this is what's going to happen.

00:36:44.260 The FBI can subpoena these folks after they get their names.

00:36:47.340 By the way, the way you get their names is very simple.

00:36:49.440 You, as the FBI director, open up the case file.

00:36:52.480 You have complete carte blanche authority to open up any investigative file.

00:36:56.700 That means, for example, the Epstein files.

00:36:59.520 That could be out January 22nd, if there is desire for it.

00:37:04.180 Once you open up that file, the Congress can ask for it.

00:37:08.740 You give it to Congress.

00:37:10.260 Then, inevitably, when they subpoena the individual agents,

00:37:13.220 the individual agents will go to the general counsel's office and say,

00:37:16.460 hey, look, this is about sources and methods, and I can't testify.

00:37:20.320 And then, you tell your general counsel, no.

00:37:23.080 As the FBI director, I determine that it's in the public interest that this information be out there.

00:37:27.720 And then, you subpoena them for both documents and testimony.

00:37:31.920 So, it is possible.

00:37:33.500 The only thing that's stopping it, and this has occurred in both sides, is cowardice.

00:37:39.080 Cowardice.

00:37:39.520 Just like David Weiss's report that was released on Monday, 27 pages, a 10th grader could have wrote it.

00:37:46.240 Yeah, we're going to go through that.

00:37:47.360 When Weiss was interviewed by Congress last fall in, I think it was November of 2023,

00:37:55.160 he said, oh, those issues that you're asking about, I'll be able to get into them in my report,

00:38:00.680 which I released to Congress, which every special counsel has to do.

00:38:03.880 Well, he punted on the report. 0.97

00:38:05.500 The report is pathetic. 0.94

00:38:07.420 I mean, the most he could muster up was that Hunter Biden made money off his last name. 0.99

00:38:12.640 Well, again, anybody with a pulse can tell you that.

00:38:16.240 David Weiss, on the other hand, unlike anybody with a pulse in America, has subpoena power.

00:38:21.320 He can write something to a federal judge and make a company give him the documents,

00:38:26.760 from Google to other third-party service providers.

00:38:30.400 So, it's total cowardice.

00:38:32.280 I was very disappointed in Chuck Grassley's statement yesterday that right at this juncture,

00:38:37.620 he doesn't think that Weiss is going to testify.

00:38:40.340 Well, if the Senate is going to punt like Weiss did, the House has got to pick up the slack.

00:38:45.320 David Weiss has to come in for public questioning, in part because he didn't do anything in the report.

00:38:50.720 If he wanted to avoid a public questioning like Robert Heur did, he should have made the report legitimate.

00:38:57.340 He tried to include 180 pages – no, excuse me, 210 pages of appendices.

00:39:04.780 So, his appendix was 210 pages, and the actual writing was 27.

00:39:09.220 Now, the funny thing is every document in the appendix was already released in the two public documents –

00:39:15.660 or two public dockets with Hunter Biden and Alexander Smirnoff, the confidential human source for the FBI.

00:39:21.760 So, we already knew the context of the appendix.

00:39:24.360 It's like he doesn't even respect us because if David Weiss respected our intelligence,

00:39:28.560 even if he was lazy and cowardly, he would have at least thrown us a couple bones,

00:39:33.480 a couple of investigative files in the appendix. 0.93

00:39:35.560 He didn't even do that.

00:39:36.520 It's a comedy.

00:39:38.740 So, this has to be rectified.

00:39:41.220 David Weiss had the opportunity of a century.

00:39:44.400 Joe Biden ran the largest RICO operation in the history of the U.S. Senate, 50 years, including the presidency.

00:39:50.980 He ran the state of Delaware.

00:39:52.700 David Weiss – and he doesn't believe in God, so I'll say through the gods.

00:39:57.360 In David Weiss's mind, the gods parted the heavens and gave him a gift, a carte blanche special counsel investigation of Hunter Biden, and he totally punts.

00:40:10.120 He's what C.S. Lewis would call a man without a chest.

00:40:12.600 This is a guy with the opportunity to effectuate justice and totally urinated it away, totally, and he deserves to be asked all the questions that he planted on in the public hearing – or excuse me, the closed-door testimony in November 2023.

00:40:30.940 And then all of the other charges that he said were not warranted being discussed because of the pardon, all of that's got to be on the table for the public testimony.

00:40:40.600 I want a seven-hour hearing, five minutes for each congressman, probably be in the House now, to ask questions.

00:40:48.240 And, of course, during this entire Biden investigation, which I was underwhelmed with, we were feeding questions to the representatives and their staff all the time.

00:40:58.900 A couple of them made it in.

00:41:00.260 We got our book entered into the congressional record last month.

00:41:04.520 That was sort of a book into this saga that I really wanted done.

00:41:08.180 And our trial with Hunter is set for September of this year.

00:41:11.660 He's suing us in California in federal court. 0.77

00:41:13.720 It's completely ridiculous. 0.97

00:41:14.780 But the corrupt federal judge on the case was appointed by his daddy. 0.99

00:41:19.480 No.

00:41:20.600 And we tried to get him to recuse himself like Trump did with Juan Marchand, and he's refusing to recuse himself.

00:41:28.040 So we have a trial with Hunter, and we get to depose him next month.

00:41:31.680 Oh, boy.

00:41:32.340 I hope you get to ask some questions.

00:41:34.020 I want to read a quick statement from James Comer, the chairman of the House Oversight Committee on the Weiss Report.

00:41:39.620 Quote, Special Counsel David Weiss just released an incomplete 27-page report

00:41:43.280 because Joe Biden issued his son an unprecedented pardon.

00:41:47.180 This sweeping pardon prevents the special counsel from holding Hunter accountable for the international influence peddling racket only made possible by Joe Biden.

00:41:56.020 Let's be clear.

00:41:56.820 The Biden DOJ was never going to prosecute the Biden crime family.

00:42:00.140 The House Oversight Committee's investigation of the Biden influence peddling scheme revealed how Joe Biden knew about, participated in, and benefited from his family cashing in on the Biden name.

00:42:09.300 Two brave whistleblowers, Gary Shapley and Joseph Ziegler, blew the whistle on the DOJ's misconduct and politicization in the Hunter-Biden criminal investigation

00:42:17.460 and revealed that they were prevented from following the evidence so they could lead us to Joe Biden.

00:42:23.520 Joe Biden will be remembered for using his last few weeks in office to shield his son from the law and protect himself.

00:42:29.480 The president's legacy is the same as his family's business and dealings, corrupt.

00:42:33.420 That's a nice statement from...

00:42:34.620 It is a pretty good statement.

00:42:35.700 But let me ask you something.

00:42:38.140 You had mentioned you want to see Dave Weiss, David Weiss go forward before Congress.

00:42:41.840 What does that ultimately get us in the end?

00:42:43.760 Because Hunter Biden's now pardoned from everything, right?

00:42:45.860 There's no way he can ever be held responsible for anything.

00:42:49.240 Is that correct?

00:42:50.640 At the federal level, yes.

00:42:52.760 It'll get us a couple of things.

00:42:54.320 It'll get us truth and a little bit of closure.

00:42:57.360 But even more important than that, well, equally important to the truth, is that Hunter still has legal exposure at the state and local level.

00:43:06.320 The left did this with Trump in Manhattan, although with Hunter's cases, they would be legitimate.

00:43:11.940 Particularly, money laundering offenses in Arkansas are still within the statute of limitations.

00:43:17.400 Hunter's financial advisor lived in Fayetteville, Arkansas.

00:43:20.680 Hunter met him during the Clinton administration.

00:43:23.040 His name is Edward Pruitt.

00:43:24.100 But he lives in Fayetteville, every single wire that Hunter received through Wells Fargo, Arkansas has jurisdiction over that wire.

00:43:32.900 And some of those money laundering offenses have five or six-year statute of limitations.

00:43:37.280 And so there is still an opportunity for local and state prosecutors to grow a backbone.

00:43:43.000 Are we expecting it?

00:43:44.000 No.

00:43:44.320 But the Weiss testimony would at least provide us more clarity on what they were investigating and what they had access to that we didn't.

00:43:57.140 So, yes, we have his laptop, and that is a treasure trove of incriminating material.

00:44:01.840 But we don't have subpoena power.

00:44:03.460 So, it would be revelatory.

00:44:07.420 It would provide us with some more truth and hopefully some more ammunition for the state and local prosecutors to grow a backbone.

00:44:15.120 Because at the federal level, as you said, for those 10 years and 11 months, he's totally, totally covered.

00:44:22.120 It's despicable, but it's constitutional.

00:44:24.220 It's funny you mention Arkansas.

00:44:26.320 For those of you who are the younger audience or the older audience, it's where the Clintons got their start.

00:44:32.500 You know, they built that empire in Arkansas.

00:44:35.460 And there's a lot of good stories about how they did it and people who went missing and ended up in ditches, places.

00:44:40.880 I'm not saying the Clintons had anything to do with that, but, you know, it just happened at the time of construction.

00:44:45.620 Yeah, a lot of people who knew somebody who knew the Clintons have ended up dead.

00:44:48.780 It's just weird.

00:44:49.980 Which brings me to my next question, Jeffrey Epstein.

00:44:52.300 Now, I'm not saying the Clintons had anything to do with him, but Bill Clinton was, I think, a very good friend of him.

00:44:58.120 He actually commissioned a painting of Bill Clinton in a nice blue dress with high heels on, sitting over a love seat.

00:45:04.880 By the way, the president, President Trump has absolute authority to decorate the White House as he sees fit.

00:45:11.060 Oh, no.

00:45:12.200 I would urge him.

00:45:14.700 He could buy that for 40 grand.

00:45:17.780 By the way, the artist who did it did an interview, I think, in 2015 with Arnett.

00:45:23.980 She said that he bought it for like 12 grand.

00:45:26.020 So even if it's appreciated tremendously, I think that should be the one in the White House for Bill Clinton.

00:45:31.400 Oh, my goodness.

00:45:32.360 That would be amazing.

00:45:33.100 And you know what?

00:45:33.500 If there was one person to do it, it would be Trump. 0.99

00:45:35.640 That would be one of the greatest trolls of all time. 0.98

00:45:37.860 Usually, I'm not a stick in the mud, but my wife always gets on to me because I don't laugh at her jokes, and I tell her, by nature, women aren't funny. 1.00

00:45:46.940 Oh, I love her back.

00:45:49.460 But that would be epic.

00:45:51.640 That would be absolutely epic that if he got the one that hung in Epstein's lair, as I call it, the lair in Manhattan.

00:45:58.920 But we do have an opportunity with the FBI, with the Epstein case file.

00:46:06.500 There's nothing stopping us.

00:46:08.140 Trump promised in term one to release the JFK files.

00:46:11.800 That's got to be a January 28th project of this year.

00:46:16.060 There's no reason why that stuff was withheld.

00:46:19.300 And Biden punted on it, too.

00:46:20.700 Talk about punting.

00:46:21.520 That could be a theme of this interview.

00:46:22.840 David Weiss punted all these FBI agents, low-level and high-level, they punted.

00:46:30.320 Everybody seems like so many people are punting.

00:46:33.060 They have an opportunity to do something epic, to do something just that's lasting, that would make the founders proud of them, and they punt.

00:46:42.320 And we cannot have that.

00:46:44.400 I think it's a problem of the right, too, Garrett.

00:46:46.520 So many of these Democrats, they want to be warriors.

00:46:48.560 They want to be saviors of the day.

00:46:50.460 And you've got Republicans who just – it's sad.

00:46:53.300 And it's crazy, too, because the Democrats are the party of DEI and transgenders and men becoming women. 0.98

00:46:58.700 Yet you have these Republicans without backbones who run with their tail between their legs, piss-scared when someone comes out and does something, and they run. 0.98

00:47:07.960 They look the other way.

00:47:09.140 I don't want any part of it.

00:47:10.900 It's like, what's wrong with you? 1.00

00:47:13.180 Grow a damn backbone. 0.99

00:47:14.820 You want to get to something that we – back to the Hunter Biden thing before we spoke about before the last thing. 0.99

00:47:19.720 And so back when I was at Fox, we had gotten an email, and I want you to confirm this because you know this Hunter Biden laptop better than anybody else.

00:47:27.260 We got this email from a Fox reporter.

00:47:30.320 I forgot who sent it out, but just a news guy.

00:47:33.140 He sent out the report that 10% for the big guy may be for Joe Biden.

00:47:38.060 Jackie Heinrich, who I think is now the chief White House correspondent or something like that, or congressional correspondent.

00:47:44.420 Ducey might be at the White House.

00:47:45.280 So whatever.

00:47:45.560 She is, yeah.

00:47:46.740 She just posted something about KJP's last briefing.

00:47:50.280 So she's been promoted.

00:47:51.420 She was promoted at Fox News, right?

00:47:53.540 Yes.

00:47:53.880 She sends out an email.

00:47:54.920 Now, this is back – when did the 10% for the big guy come out?

00:47:57.640 Was that 2019?

00:47:58.880 That was 2020, October 14, 2020.

00:48:01.640 Okay.

00:48:02.120 So October 14, 2020, she sends out this email.

00:48:04.940 I've read through my sources.

00:48:06.640 I can confirm that 10% was not for the big guy.

00:48:10.180 Oh, you know what it was?

00:48:11.040 It was when Tony Bobulinski came out.

00:48:12.820 When Tony Bobulinski came out with that BlackBerry in that press conference, she sends out this email and says, I can confirm 10% for the big guy is not Joe Biden.

00:48:21.840 So I reply back to this email.

00:48:23.060 I'm a low-level staffer at Fox News at this point.

00:48:25.280 But I said, BS, I'm not letting her send out this company-wide email when she's putting out fake news.

00:48:30.000 This is Fox News.

00:48:30.820 We're Republican, right?

00:48:31.940 We want to get the truth out.

00:48:33.140 So I reply all back to this email, and I say, that's not true.

00:48:38.020 Here's Tony Bobulinski saying this, this, this, and this.

00:48:40.720 Here's his sources.

00:48:42.000 Where did you get your sources that you've come up with that 10% was not for the big guy?

00:48:46.000 And I posted this conversation with Jackie Heinrich on my Twitter.

00:48:49.740 She comes back with some BS response, but very nice.

00:48:53.360 Like, if she believed in what she said, she would come back and be aggressive.

00:48:56.000 It was very nicely worded.

00:48:57.860 Now, I'm just a low-level staffer there.

00:48:59.160 Now, I, I, the next day comes, she lets this whole thing die out.

00:49:03.260 Now, I don't know how to tell Lou that I just started a war with Jackie Heinrich.

00:49:06.460 So I go in, I said, Lou, I got to tell you something, man.

00:49:09.260 And I tell him this whole story, and Lou starts pissing his pants, and he goes, man, you are something else.

00:49:14.840 Good for you.

00:49:15.720 But that's what it was at Fox.

00:49:17.240 It was, it was always people who were trying to, and then Lou went home and told his wife, 0.97

00:49:21.360 and his wife texted me and said, you're crazier than hell. 0.78

00:49:24.080 But that's what, I didn't care about losing my job. 0.98

00:49:26.080 Because if I was challenging what the truth was, go ahead and fire me.

00:49:29.500 You can take your, whatever the heck I was making, then it was nothing.

00:49:32.760 Take your money.

00:49:33.460 I'll go find a job elsewhere where I can, and I knew Lou had my back because Lou only cared about one thing.

00:49:38.980 It was, or three things, truth, justice, and the American way, which is the mantra of the show.

00:49:43.000 But that's what Fox is.

00:49:44.580 They did everything they could.

00:49:45.680 Honestly, meaning I accept that personalities differ.

00:49:50.600 People may not like my personality or the way I talk or the way I look or something else.

00:49:54.480 But the only thing we should be concerned with for all of us in the media, everybody doing investigations, is what I'm saying true.

00:50:02.120 And the Lord knows we're all sinners.

00:50:04.280 If we say something that's not true, we immediately apologize, right?

00:50:07.260 But that should be the only barometer, the only barometer.

00:50:11.340 And I'm disgusted when it's not for people.

00:50:15.640 And we have to, you know, people always say, you know, that's American or this is, you know, very Americana, like pickup trucks or, you know, pictures of F-15s flying in Afghanistan.

00:50:28.540 I don't really think that's American.

00:50:29.860 What's American, what's iconically American is just what you said.

00:50:34.400 If I say something that's true, that offends you, so be it, you know, and if you fire me, you can go after yourself.

00:50:41.420 That is what's truly unique.

00:50:43.940 American exceptionalism has nothing to do with our economy, although it is good.

00:50:49.620 It's the idea that we're going to put truth above all other considerations.

00:50:54.700 And that's why, personally, the Bidens disgust me so much is because Hunter is a total nepo baby who he's done nothing through his own merit. 0.82

00:51:05.640 Not a single position has been because he's smart or, you know, intellectually superior.

00:51:12.120 It's all this old world nepotistic way.

00:51:16.800 And I hate that.

00:51:18.940 Yeah, yeah, you're absolutely right.

00:51:20.040 And, you know, there are people, you know, the whole notion of rich people who are born from things are usually tend to be not as successful as their parents.

00:51:28.960 It's because they have nothing to work for.

00:51:30.340 Everything is usually given to them.

00:51:32.040 And Hunter Biden is the exact example of that.

00:51:36.000 He was given everything his whole entire life.

00:51:37.760 And you know what?

00:51:38.760 Towards the end of his life, he gave back to daddy.

00:51:40.940 Can you confirm for me that 10% for the big guy?

00:51:43.640 Because I hold you in a way higher standard than I do for Jackie Heinrich.

00:51:47.480 Can you?

00:51:47.660 Totally.

00:51:48.360 And it's covered in two separate pages in our report.

00:51:51.740 I even know the exact date of the email.

00:51:53.560 It was May 10th, 2017.

00:51:55.860 The email was written by an English businessman named James Gillier.

00:51:59.760 Tony Bobulinski was on the CC line.

00:52:02.540 So we not only have it from Hunter's laptop, like you said, we have it from Tony.

00:52:06.200 So as an investigator, this is what we call corroboration gold.

00:52:09.720 It's why Ben Schreckinger, probably my favorite liberal in D.C., he writes for Politico, a terrible publication.

00:52:17.520 But Ben Schreckinger is somebody I respect because what did he do?

00:52:21.280 He smartly FOIA'd the House of Sweden, which is the Swedish embassy.

00:52:25.760 And they have a law that they have to release to Americans' public records request.

00:52:33.320 So Ben looked on the laptop of all the emails Hunter had sent to the House of Sweden folks, which is where he had office space.

00:52:40.220 That's why he paid $50,000 a month because they rented office space in the House of Sweden.

00:52:45.480 And sure enough, the House of Sweden sent back to Ben Schreckinger the exact same emails that were on Hunter's laptop.

00:52:52.920 So he had that independent corroboration, right?

00:52:55.840 So we know 1,000% because it's not just Tony Bobulinski.

00:53:00.460 It's we have it from Hunter's laptop.

00:53:02.760 And by the way, nobody's denied who was in the conversation, James Gillier, Tony Bobulinski, Hunter.

00:53:08.740 Nobody's denied that it was about Joe, right?

00:53:11.200 The only people denying it are Jackie, and she's not in the conversation.

00:53:15.920 I'm going to find that email, and I'm going to send it to you after this.

00:53:18.180 I would absolutely love that because we'll tweet at her.

00:53:21.320 Yeah, I mean, I should – Marco Polo should quote tweet that original tweet by you and tag her today.

00:53:28.360 I'll find it, and I'll send it to you.

00:53:30.320 Because, Garrett, the problem is there's not many people like you and I, and we're not the only ones.

00:53:34.040 There isn't.

00:53:35.040 But there's a few, and we get the word out.

00:53:37.120 We're anti-careerist, meaning if we make it to the top of American media, that's great.

00:53:44.480 But if we don't because we're uncompromising, then it wasn't God's will, right?

00:53:49.780 God's will is always going to fall on the side of you telling the truth.

00:53:53.720 Yeah.

00:53:54.060 We were to begin in the commercial break.

00:53:56.000 It's not about how much money you make.

00:53:57.560 It's about are you happy doing what you do, and are you doing a good job doing what you're doing?

00:54:02.100 And I said to you, I don't care if I die with not a dollar in my name, knowing that I did the right thing in life, that I followed the Lord, and that I followed the right footsteps, and that I tried my best at being a good person.

00:54:14.540 As you mentioned, we all sin.

00:54:15.580 We all sin differently, and we're forgiven for our sins if we are truly sorry for them.

00:54:21.380 There's some people who will never be, and it's Hunter Biden because he's a bad man. 0.89

00:54:24.460 And Joe Biden's a terrible man. 0.53

00:54:26.000 He can go to church all he wants. 1.00

00:54:28.280 It's not going to change the fact that he's for killing babies, and he's a – 0.98

00:54:33.020 Yeah, he's a – it's incredible that he still communed at Joseph on the Brandywine. 0.75

00:54:39.460 You know, I live in central Illinois, and the bishop – I'm not Catholic, but I'm very, very traditional Lutheran.

00:54:46.880 And the bishop in Springfield, Illinois, he's the Bishop Paprika of the Springfield Diocese.

00:54:54.500 Springfield is the capital of Illinois.

00:54:55.680 I live by there.

00:54:57.240 He has – he's one of the few bishops in the United States to even comment on Joe taking the sacrament while being for the butcher of children. 0.85

00:55:07.340 I mean, the idea that this is – this Irish Catholic guy, it's disgusting that people still buy this fiction. 0.99

00:55:15.420 Garrett, I can call you James.

00:55:16.960 Garrett, when you have a pope who's like speaking on our immigration laws here in America as he's got a wall around the Vatican –

00:55:22.780 I went on a Vatican tour maybe six or seven years ago in Italy, and they told us they had cures for things like cancer in the Vatican Center.

00:55:29.260 If you're a good Catholic, why are you holding back something like that? 0.91

00:55:32.380 But then you've got this man who's coming out talking about transgenders, allowing trannies to dominate the church. 1.00

00:55:38.920 I mean, what kind of man is this? 0.96

00:55:40.760 And what – I grew up a Catholic, but I'm absolutely disgusted by the Catholic church and the things that they've done. 0.90

00:55:48.180 I've went to high schools where the Monsignors have been accused of fondling children, and I had friends to joke and text me,

00:55:54.480 were you one of them? 0.95

00:55:55.580 And I said, damn right I wasn't. 0.94

00:55:57.320 If I was one of them, that man would have been in a coma somewhere. 0.95

00:56:00.060 But, you know, what the Catholic church has become, it's become a money-peddling operation. 0.93

00:56:05.680 You look at the Catholic charities, you want to have some fun.

00:56:08.280 I'm sure you know better than anybody.

00:56:09.540 You want to have some fun, go investigate the Catholic charities. 0.93

00:56:12.080 You can put out a 1,200-page report on what they're doing down at the southern border and bringing illegals into this country or the Red Cross or any of these.

00:56:19.780 But it all ties back to the Catholic church. 0.99

00:56:21.840 And we've got a pope who's leading it who's corrupt as hell. 0.98

00:56:25.660 I don't know what the hell they got on this guy, but he's out here just complete total Marxist, and everybody's okay with it. 0.94

00:56:33.300 There's a great picture on Hunter's laptop that we put in our book of Borgoglio and Joe hugging at the Vatican, and Hunter's right there.

00:56:43.340 It's like, I think, May of 2016.

00:56:45.580 They all went over there on Air Force 2.

00:56:47.140 It's disgusting.

00:56:49.200 And they're all – you know, Joe is just leaning over and kissing him. 0.66

00:56:52.640 I don't know if you saw that picture from last month.

00:56:54.380 No, it's a – and he just gave him – Borgoglio is the only one that received a Presidential Medal of Freedom with Distinction.

00:57:02.580 The only one.

00:57:03.320 Wow.

00:57:03.640 And Joe issued that two days ago because he was going to give it to him in Italy, but he canceled his trip because of the Newsom-caused wildfires and probably arson.

00:57:14.120 I mean it was exacerbated by the water problems caused by Newsom.

00:57:20.280 But I wouldn't be surprised if an illegal started some of these fires, and they just detained somebody.

00:57:25.400 ICE just put out a statement three hours ago saying that somebody who's being held for starting a fire wasn't illegal. 0.88

00:57:32.560 So the illegals are not only raping and pillaging us and killing, in the case of Lake and Riley. 0.92

00:57:40.020 They're literally starting fires. 0.96

00:57:41.840 Yeah, and we're fine with it because, you know, it is what it is, and we've got the Pope talking about it.

00:57:46.000 You know the biggest question I want to wrap up here because we're running out of time that I want to know as a Catholic myself is why did Joseph Ratzinger, Pope Benedict, resign?

00:57:56.220 What did he know?

00:57:57.780 What was his rationale behind resigning?

00:57:59.700 We never knew.

00:58:00.560 He said it was about health issues, but he lived a life after that.

00:58:06.340 He did.

00:58:06.860 I think a decade, right?

00:58:07.760 Was it 2000?

00:58:09.200 I think he resigned in 2013.

00:58:12.620 Yeah.

00:58:13.080 It was 2013 or so.

00:58:14.860 But, you know, continued to live a fine life.

00:58:17.900 He lived, I think, almost 10 years after that, but resigned for health issues.

00:58:22.300 Health issues that you lived 10 years after.

00:58:24.020 I want to know what that man saw, what that man witnessed that was so bad that forced him to be one of six Popes to ever resign.

00:58:32.260 Yeah.

00:58:32.480 When was the last time there was a resignation before him?

00:58:36.400 I think it was in, like, 1400s.

00:58:40.460 So, you do the math.

00:58:42.280 I think it was in, like, early 1400s.

00:58:45.840 You guys could fact check me on that, but I'm pretty sure it was.

00:58:49.120 Yeah, that is nuts.

00:58:50.380 Yeah.

00:58:50.700 I agree.

00:58:51.300 I agree completely.

00:58:52.340 What did that man know that was so bad, that was so troubling to him, that forced him to resign inside the Catholic Church?

00:59:00.100 And it only makes me wonder that we've now got this Pope in here.

00:59:05.000 Well, I went to not only a Catholic college, but a Jesuit college.

00:59:09.140 And as, obviously, you know, Bergoglio is the first Jesuit Pope.

00:59:12.460 Yeah.

00:59:12.620 And I think probably the homosexual situation in the seminaries has gotten even worse since he took power.

00:59:20.720 This has been a key problem for decades now.

00:59:24.420 And it's a problem, again, because they act on these feelings of same-sex attraction.

00:59:32.840 And it's ruined lives.

00:59:35.880 So, that is a huge deal.

00:59:37.920 You know, it's probably not popular for me to say this as a Catholic, and the Catholics may get offended by this.

00:59:45.900 But, you know, with this new Pope doing all he can to undermine regular traditional marriage and promote same-sex marriage and all that good stuff, why not look at some sort of amendment in the Catholic Church and allow priests to get married?

00:59:59.760 If you're okay with allowing these priests to go out and do things with boys, with young boys, not just homosexuality, but underage molestation, if you're allowing this, why not look towards allowing these priests to maybe get married and try to settle the issue that way and try to narrow down why this is so popular inside the Catholic Church?

01:00:22.240 You don't see this happening in the Christian churches as bad as you're seeing it, you know, with pastors and then with priests.

01:00:28.300 Yeah, and it goes to the core of it and about, you know, tradition for the sake of tradition and, you know, knowing that in – well, obviously, Peter was married, right?

01:00:45.800 And so, knowing that other apostles that Protestants hold in high regard were married as well, maybe it will cause other people to rethink that.

01:00:57.340 But I have very right-wing friends that vociferously oppose this idea.

01:01:04.520 But something's not working.

01:01:05.480 Well, then you figure out a way to stop it, right?

01:01:07.220 Well, something's not working. 0.75

01:01:08.860 Either the people at the seminaries themselves are homosexuals and it's – like it's a self-selection problem. 0.98

01:01:17.320 Like they feel comfortable there and so it's like – but it's a cancer. 0.97

01:01:23.500 And, you know, going back to Joe's, I think he – his relationship with the Chinese has been terrible, yes. 1.00

01:01:31.740 And thank God he only got one term.

01:01:33.040 But I think in 40 years, the worst thing Joe will have ever done is the invasion through the southern border.

01:01:40.320 And that is directly related to his love of Borgoglio and everything that they've – in everything that Borgoglio has done that's been terrible.

01:01:47.720 He's been worse – of all the things he's bad at, I think the worst one is the invasion.

01:01:53.860 And so, in a way, it is relevant because if Joe did everything else poorly, the spending, inflation, everything else, but we didn't have the 12 million-plus people come in illegally, I think it would be much easier to get out of.

01:02:08.340 But even if Trump deports 6 million, there's still going to be many, many more millions that have to go.

01:02:13.520 And that's going to be Joe's legacy.

01:02:15.360 And you're using that 12 million number.

01:02:16.800 That's the government telling you.

01:02:18.140 Exactly.

01:02:18.500 You and I both know it's over 20 million people, maybe 30 million.

01:02:22.900 Who the heck knows what the number is?

01:02:24.640 But it's – if the government's telling you a number – it's like the jobs numbers, Garrett.

01:02:29.280 You worked for Peter Navarro, so you know –

01:02:31.340 They're cooked.

01:02:32.120 They come out with one number.

01:02:33.620 They'll say 300,000, 360,000.

01:02:36.360 And then the next month, it gets revised down to 60,000.

01:02:39.040 It was just an estimate.

01:02:40.280 Well, how do you make an estimate by a factor of like five, six times?

01:02:43.760 It's just the way the government does business.

01:02:46.100 But, you know, wrapping up with the southern border and how it ties into what we were just talking about, the churches, the Catholic Church has enabled all of it.

01:02:53.480 The Catholic Charities, folks, if you donate to the Catholic Charities, stop.

01:02:56.240 If you donate to the Red Cross, stop.

01:02:58.140 You've got to go online and you've got to research these organizations, not only the work they're doing, but how much of the money they actually give out.

01:03:04.040 Now, I invite you all to go ahead and check that out yourself.

01:03:08.400 I don't want to be talking about organizations I don't know about, but I can tell you for sure the Red Cross and the Catholic Charities,

01:03:13.180 the folks at the top of the top, are taking a large, large salary.

01:03:17.280 And the Catholic Charities are inhibiting this border crisis that Joe Biden has fueled.

01:03:23.380 Garrett Ziegler, like I said, the founder of Marco Polo.

01:03:26.120 You can go to their website, marcopolo501c3.com.

01:03:29.340 You can follow them on Twitter for all their great work.

01:03:32.080 Garrett, get yourself the copy.

01:03:34.100 If you don't want to buy the copy, it's available, a PDF on there for free, right on their homepage.

01:03:38.720 Very easy to find.

01:03:39.740 We recommend it to you highly, and we recommend you sign up for their mailing list so they can keep you up to date on everything.

01:03:45.840 Garrett, come back soon.

01:03:46.960 We want to know everything about this lawsuit and the Bidens and why they're suing Marco Polo.

01:03:53.620 I mean, it's just why are they suing a 501c3?

01:03:57.180 We introduced the king's son, or we embarrassed the king's son, and that's a sin to them.

01:04:03.320 I appreciate you having me on tonight.

01:04:06.940 I love the topics.

01:04:08.300 I loved speaking with you.

01:04:10.300 We can do it again.

01:04:11.480 Let's do it again.

01:04:12.640 Often and soon, Garrett.

01:04:14.320 Godspeed, John.

01:04:15.460 Thanks, everybody, for being with us today here on The Great America Show, folks.

01:04:18.340 I hope you enjoyed my conversation with Garrett.

01:04:20.600 We're going to try to bring him back here as often and possible to give us an update on his lawsuit and everything government.

01:04:27.360 Any bad folks trying to undermine the Trump administration, all that good stuff.

01:04:32.480 He's got the inside scoop.

01:04:34.520 Being a former D.C. swamp creature like myself, we're no longer, thank God.

01:04:40.200 We've made our way out, but we're going to try to bring him back here often.

01:04:43.500 Folks, we hope you'll join us back here tomorrow for The Great America Show.

01:04:45.960 Same time, same place, where our quest for truth, justice, and the American way continues.

01:04:51.220 We'll see you back here tomorrow, folks.

01:04:52.460 Until then, may God bless you, may God bless America, and may God bless the great Lou Dobbs.

The Great America Show - January 16, 2025

THE MOST CORRUPT FIRST FAMILY IN HISTORY LOOKS TO FINISH THEIR DIRTY WORK

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