The Great America Show - THE WORLD IS BETTER OFF WHEN THE U.S. IS NOT THE WORLD'S POLICE

00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody, and welcome to The Great America Show.

00:00:05.200 It's great to have you with us today.

00:00:06.720 Thank you so much for joining us on this beautiful Wednesday in America.

00:00:11.700 Foreign policy for the Biden administration has got this country into so much trouble.

00:00:16.520 You can look at the border with Mexico that's out of control, drugs pouring through it,

00:00:22.040 migrants pouring through it. 0.98

00:00:22.900 You can look at the war that's going on between Russia and Ukraine.

00:00:26.340 You can look at the war that's happening over in Israel with Gaza.

00:00:30.040 They just seem to keep building up, building up, building up.

00:00:34.100 The U.S. announcing they're going to send another $20 billion to Ukraine as a loan

00:00:38.060 just before Joe Biden decides he's going to leave office on January 20th in just over a month.

00:00:43.180 We're all counting down the days for that to happen.

00:00:46.400 Drones flying over the Northeast for the last month or so.

00:00:50.560 Government has no idea what's going on.

00:00:52.140 John Kirby tells us those are just your regular drones you can go out and buy in the convenience store.

00:00:56.460 Skies have been a little bit darker lately. 1.00

00:00:59.420 That's why you're seeing more drones than you usually see. 1.00

00:01:01.900 Folks, this government thinks we're stupid. 1.00

00:01:04.120 They're the ones who are stupid. 1.00

00:01:06.060 We're not falling for it anymore. 1.00

00:01:07.380 We're demanding answers.

00:01:08.620 The American people deserve answers as to why there's drones flying over our houses in our neighborhoods,

00:01:14.500 in close proximity to airports, to airplanes that we're getting on as passengers.

00:01:19.560 We deserve answers.

00:01:20.820 We're going to take all this up today with our guest, Colonel Doug McGregor.

00:01:25.300 He's the CEO of Our Country, Our Choice.

00:01:27.820 He's a great American.

00:01:29.180 And I want to get some insight as to what he believes is going on.

00:01:33.000 Is this a government operation?

00:01:35.880 Is this just commercial flyers flying their drones at 10,000 feet above airports?

00:01:40.860 He's our guest today, Colonel Doug McGregor.

00:01:43.200 Colonel McGregor, it's great to have you here on The Great America Show.

00:01:46.000 I really appreciate you joining us.

00:01:47.380 I want to start with, first, what's on everybody's mind, at least here in the Northeast,

00:01:51.880 where I am in New York, people in New Jersey, about these drones.

00:01:55.820 I want to roll a quick clip of John Kirby on with Bill Hammer and his take on these drones.

00:02:00.940 Now, it makes me nervous watching this.

00:02:03.660 I think it's probably going to make you nervous watching it in the audience.

00:02:05.920 Take a listen.

00:02:06.780 You hear all of these officials.

00:02:08.580 You've heard a lot of concern, a lot of coverage.

00:02:11.520 Where are you tonight on this?

00:02:13.580 As we look at the information we've got, Brett, and we've now examined some 5,000 different sightings,

00:02:19.740 we've added detection capabilities, additional observers.

00:02:23.140 As you and I stand here today, to date, our assessment is that this is lawful, legal, commercial,

00:02:32.080 hobbyist, and even law enforcement aircraft activity.

00:02:35.820 Some of it's manned.

00:02:37.020 Some of it's unmanned.

00:02:38.060 We absolutely acknowledge that a lot of these are probably drones, but they're flying legally.

00:02:44.620 And it is legal to fly drones in non-restricted airspace as long as you're registered with the FAA.

00:02:50.940 And there's thousands and thousands of these kinds of flights every single day.

00:02:56.440 I think there's more than a million drones that are registered with the FAA just in the United States alone.

00:03:01.580 Now, Colonel, before I get your take on that, I just have to admit I'm a little bit more in tune with this

00:03:07.340 because I'm a commercial pilot.

00:03:08.660 I'm not a journalist by trade, so I do understand the whole airspace issue.

00:03:12.700 I'm going to pull this up for the audience to see here.

00:03:15.340 If you look up in the map, Colonel, on the north and northwestern, you probably understand what we're looking at here.

00:03:19.680 We're looking at New York airspace.

00:03:21.440 You'll see a red circle on the top left-hand side.

00:03:24.400 That's called a temporary flight restriction, a TFR.

00:03:27.800 It means you can't fly over it at a certain altitude.

00:03:30.080 The one to the south of that is another TFR, looks to be over another Air Force base.

00:03:37.120 But the northern one is Picatinny Arsenal, Colonel, a military base out in northern Jersey.

00:03:45.320 And the TFR was issued, if you see on the screen here, on November 25th, and it's valid until December 26th.

00:03:53.200 And they say it's for special security reasons.

00:03:56.840 So this has been put out there now from the government for us to see.

00:04:01.040 But we have John Kirby out here telling us these are just drones you buy at the convenience store, Colonel.

00:04:06.600 I think John Kirby has a habit of adding to the confusion.

00:04:10.240 And it's hard to explain why we're seeing these kinds of things, not just in the area that you showed me,

00:04:15.820 but on the West Coast as well, other locations in the United States.

00:04:19.560 And, you know, I do not have personal knowledge of what this is, but I get lots of information sent to me by people that work with us at our country, our choice.

00:04:31.240 And they told me that, well, some of this is connected to some search that's underway for something radioactive.

00:04:38.820 And I asked, well, what are you talking about?

00:04:41.160 A lost warhead from the armed forces?

00:04:44.720 And they said, well, it could be that.

00:04:46.220 It could be something else.

00:04:47.760 Then, of course, you always have someone who is convinced this is evidence for first contact.

00:04:52.220 I don't think so, because first contact would probably use far more sophisticated technology if they could fly that far to get here.

00:05:01.160 I don't think that's it.

00:05:02.380 And then, finally, that somehow or another all the hobbyists all across the country decided we're going to fly around these places and confuse everyone for the next few days.

00:05:12.080 I think that's a little unlikely.

00:05:14.100 So let's assume maybe you have the Department of Defense doing something, and they don't wish to comment in depth on it.

00:05:21.920 That seems plausible.

00:05:23.520 I'm surprised Picatinny Arsenal has suddenly become so important over the last several decades.

00:05:29.080 You've had lots of efforts to shut it down.

00:05:30.980 So it's interesting.

00:05:33.080 And I've been to Picatinny Arsenal, and I know a lot of people there are very nice people.

00:05:37.840 So let's just say DOD has a hand in this.

00:05:42.180 The thing, and to your point about people flying more drones, the White House says people might be seeing more drones since it's darker and the skies are clear and they're not used to drones.

00:05:52.020 Colonel, I flew into Newark Airport last night from Florida, and I flew out to go to Florida on Friday.

00:05:57.500 When I flew out on Friday, I see these things up at 5,000 feet, 6,000 feet, 7,000 feet.

00:06:02.640 The airspace over Newark, you can't overfly Newark until 7,000 feet.

00:06:07.160 Okay?

00:06:07.600 So it's a federal offense.

00:06:09.660 If you fly any sort of drone, it doesn't matter if it's a drone this big or if it's a drone the size of a car.

00:06:14.240 It's a federal offense.

00:06:14.900 They take airspace very seriously in the FAA.

00:06:18.240 If I fly through that airspace in my little Cessna, they have F-8, and the president's in town, they'll have F-18s coming up next to me.

00:06:25.260 And if I don't abide by it, they'll shoot me down.

00:06:27.440 Yet we have Kirby sitting here telling Bill Hammer on Fox News, we shouldn't be shooting everything down just because we see it.

00:06:34.560 I want to roll that clip for you and get your reaction.

00:06:36.380 Military bases have seen these drones fly over them.

00:06:40.480 That's a federal offense.

00:06:42.500 If there ever were justification to shoot a drone down, that would be it.

00:06:48.360 Why hasn't it happened?

00:06:50.580 Well, because, look, first of all, Bill, the military commanders at installations have the authorities they need to defend themselves, their people, their interests,

00:06:58.680 and certainly to protect our secrets and our national security.

00:07:02.600 Sometimes the answer is to find a way to down a drone, and sometimes the answer is not.

00:07:07.940 And a lot of it depends on the capability that the base commander has available to him or to her.

00:07:13.180 But they have the authorities that they need.

00:07:15.580 The sense that you have to shoot everything down just when you see it, even if you do believe that there's a malicious intent, doesn't comport with actual reality.

00:07:25.660 So, I mean, it really depends on the situation at hand.

00:07:28.520 But rest assured, commanders have the authorities that they need to take the action that they must to protect their facilities.

00:07:34.960 What did you think?

00:07:35.720 Military bases.

00:07:37.380 This is the same administration who's dumping billions of dollars into Ukraine to shoot missiles into Russia, providing them with U.S. military arms.

00:07:46.540 This is the same administration who waited until a spy balloon flew over the whole entire continent of the United States and then used a $400,000 sidewinder to shoot it down over the coast, off the coast of Myrtle Beach, South Carolina.

00:07:57.740 Yet he wants to tell us with a straight face that we shouldn't be shooting anything down.

00:08:01.900 And there's ways to get the drones down.

00:08:03.680 It's just going to take over a month or so.

00:08:06.820 Well, I've heard this before.

00:08:08.180 You know, I did not have sex with that woman. 1.00

00:08:11.240 I think he must have understudied the Clinton spokesman.

00:08:17.040 Look, he's having great difficulty twisting and turning to get the lie across.

00:08:22.600 If this were not DOD related, obviously, those things would have been shot down.

00:08:28.880 I think that's perfectly clear.

00:08:30.040 You made that point.

00:08:30.820 I think you're right.

00:08:31.620 The only thing we can conclude, it's DOD.

00:08:34.180 The problem is that things that 50 years ago we would never have known about, we now know about.

00:08:40.160 That's all.

00:08:41.140 And I think we should leave it at that point now.

00:08:43.740 Are they searching for something?

00:08:45.620 I mean, one person said it was very clear.

00:08:48.560 There's a threat to us. 0.96

00:08:50.300 There's a dirty bomb out there waiting to explode. 0.90

00:08:53.480 Who knows? 0.98

00:08:54.940 I find that hard to believe.

00:08:56.720 But that's more plausible than Brother Kirby's statements. 1.00

00:09:00.380 I mean, this man is ridiculous. 0.80

00:09:02.960 Before we move on from that, because you bring up a good point, because I read the same thing about the radioactive material 0.97

00:09:07.800 and the thing going missing, the container going missing.

00:09:11.060 But I also saw an update on it that apparently the radioactive material that had gone missing was for, like, a PET scanner or something like that,

00:09:18.900 or a CAT scanner that was going to be used in that. 0.80

00:09:22.460 Why is it constantly, Colonel, that we're being, like, trolled by our U.S. government in this massive game of deception?

00:09:30.280 It's almost like we're living in China, where you can't get a straight answer whether the sky is blue or the sky is gloomy one day or it's raining or it's not.

00:09:38.780 We cannot get a straight answer out of this administration on literally anything.

00:09:43.480 I think you're right.

00:09:44.560 And I think distraction is the word.

00:09:46.940 All of these things are useful distractions.

00:09:48.740 I mean, right now we have a massive military buildup of Turkish troops on the border with the so-called Syrian state inside Syria, which is Kurdish.

00:10:00.520 And, you know, this is something that's been developing for a long period of time.

00:10:04.780 How nice to have a distraction over the skies of New York, Washington or anywhere else to divert people's attention away from serious things overseas.

00:10:13.340 Too many lies for too long have destroyed the credibility of the United States government and specifically both the State Department and the Department of Defense.

00:10:23.420 You're absolutely right.

00:10:24.360 I do want to get into the Kurdish forces.

00:10:25.880 I do want to get into Syria.

00:10:27.200 Before we get to that, I want to get your take on this administration that President Trump, and it can't come soon enough.

00:10:33.560 It's about a month and two days before he's sworn in as 47.

00:10:37.060 I want to get your take on particularly a man like Pete Hegseth, the man who's going to be running an organization that you know far too well in the military.

00:10:46.520 We'll start with Pete Hegseth.

00:10:48.340 What's your thoughts on Pete?

00:10:50.140 Does he make it through?

00:10:51.180 Are you confident in the job he's going to do once I think he does get through?

00:10:57.420 You know, Pete Hegseth's nomination came as a stark surprise to me, as it did to many other people.

00:11:04.220 I certainly would not have selected someone like that with his background.

00:11:08.920 It certainly does nothing to prepare him to deal with this large behemoth called the Department of Defense.

00:11:15.340 I'm sure that'll come up in the confirmation hearings if he's sent a confirmation.

00:11:19.880 He might be appointed in a recess appointment, in which case he could stay there for a year and then have to return for confirmation.

00:11:28.540 If you look at all of the people that are being nominated right now, they are all, in my judgment, AIPAC approved.

00:11:39.300 Interesting.

00:11:40.440 That's what's most important.

00:11:42.040 And you've got to go back to the Republican Convention.

00:11:44.080 And there was a portion of the Republican Convention when suddenly the Israeli flag, this enormous Israeli flag, was placed on the wall.

00:11:52.240 And above it was the statement, Israel first. 0.60

00:11:55.200 And this gentleman came out and tried to lead cheers for Israel first and got a sort of, you know, tepid response.

00:12:05.980 But I think that's at the heart of most of these nominations.

00:12:09.060 These these are people that are committed unconditionally to whatever the Israeli state wants to do.

00:12:16.400 And I think that's not an accident.

00:12:18.320 Very interesting.

00:12:21.700 Before we move on, I people like heads to heads to heads and some of these other folks, a lot of them, you know, never working in the field before.

00:12:29.700 But we constantly have people, Colonel, that we bring in to run organizations under this administration, under the Bush administration, under the first Trump administration, who have been in these bureaucracies their entire career, have run the Pentagon their entire career, have been in the military their entire career.

00:12:47.060 And they've got us into this massive mess.

00:12:49.440 You look at the Pentagon.

00:12:50.340 They've just failed their seventh or eighth straight audit.

00:12:52.320 Can't account for billions of dollars of funds.

00:12:54.920 You look at the military industrial complex blowing up like it's never blown up before.

00:12:59.500 You look at a border that's wide open and it's being run by people who have been in these organizations forever.

00:13:04.780 Mayorkas and I was going to say Buttigieg.

00:13:07.540 Buttigieg, I'm not sure where he came from. 0.99

00:13:09.480 But nonetheless, you have these folks who are career bureaucrats who constantly get us in the shit. 0.97

00:13:14.600 But do you think it's a breath of fresh air now that Trump is pulling some of these folks who are not career bureaucrats? 0.97

00:13:22.940 Not really.

00:13:24.020 I think the problem is as follows.

00:13:26.040 There are lots of people that you can find who could be qualified to do many of these jobs.

00:13:31.400 Most of them are drawn from the swamp.

00:13:34.460 That's certainly what Donald Trump did during his first administration.

00:13:37.340 And if you want to if you want to return to the revolving door, that guarantees no change.

00:13:43.480 Remember, everyone on the Hill is preoccupied with one thing.

00:13:47.300 Change nothing because change disrupts the money flow.

00:13:51.800 Right.

00:13:52.100 No one on the Hill wants to change the direction in which money is flowing since they benefit from it.

00:13:57.240 Right.

00:13:57.500 You know, Lou Dobbs, bless his soul, used to say we have the best government in Washington that money can buy.

00:14:05.640 And I'm afraid that's true.

00:14:07.560 We still do.

00:14:08.480 We're having that again with this particular group.

00:14:11.600 I'm not saying it's easy to find people who place the interests of the country before their own interests.

00:14:17.140 That's a difficult thing.

00:14:18.940 But nevertheless, we could do a much better job than I think Donald Trump has done to this point.

00:14:23.460 Now, we'll see.

00:14:24.440 You know, Donald Trump's problem in the past was that he took the position that it didn't really matter who was appointed because he was the decision maker.

00:14:32.640 And he seemed to think that since the buck ended with him on his desk, that he could control everything.

00:14:39.240 I hope he learned for the first four years that that's not the truth at all.

00:14:43.220 Yeah.

00:14:43.760 And if you're if you're picking people on the basis of their willingness to do certain things, then they may not do anything else.

00:14:52.100 In other words, you've got to be very careful what your agenda is.

00:14:56.260 And these are tough times.

00:14:57.520 We need we're at a point in our history where we really need a massive overhaul, not just in the Department of Defense, but across the government.

00:15:06.700 I mean, it's sort of interesting.

00:15:08.020 You see Christie known as the governor who's appointed to take over the Department of Homeland Security.

00:15:12.820 Well, that's one of the first bureaucracies I'd get rid of.

00:15:15.880 Why do we have it?

00:15:16.900 It's been an abysmal failure, but it's another bureaucratic exercise and bureaucratic constipation.

00:15:23.520 Get rid of it.

00:15:24.360 We don't need it.

00:15:25.540 What about agriculture?

00:15:27.540 You know, what about energy?

00:15:29.000 Department of Education.

00:15:29.580 We could do things differently with energy.

00:15:31.580 Well, first of all, I don't think we need a Department of Energy.

00:15:33.740 You could turn the whole nuclear program for all of our nuclear power stations and everything else over to the Navy because the United States Navy has the largest number of trained, competent nuclear engineers in the world.

00:15:48.200 That's what we have is a nuclear submarine fleet. 0.87

00:15:51.440 They know what they're doing, especially when it comes to weapons.

00:15:54.760 There are a lot of things that we can do.

00:15:56.280 And I think this doge is problematic because the people that are at top of that, they don't know anything.

00:16:04.240 I'm sorry.

00:16:05.340 They don't know anything about Washington.

00:16:07.120 They don't know anything about these agencies.

00:16:09.420 And they don't understand what you're dealing with.

00:16:12.200 So I think President Trump has always has good instincts and good intentions.

00:16:17.820 I don't dispute that.

00:16:19.140 And I like the man very much.

00:16:20.480 But those are not going to count for very much in Washington if you don't know how the place works, if you don't know what the stakes and alligators in the swamp are doing.

00:16:31.620 Right.

00:16:32.300 That's the problem.

00:16:33.660 You know, the issue is, I understand.

00:16:35.260 I agree with everything you're saying.

00:16:36.600 The issue is, is Donald Trump has been screwed over so many times before by people in his own orbit that it's brought him to this point now where he has no choice.

00:16:45.200 You look at what John Kelly and Matt Mad Dog Mattis, you look at the slew of people he had the first time, and it seemed everyone was there to sort of undermine everything he did and go against everything he did.

00:16:56.080 We look at what Mark Milley did as Trump was getting ready to leave.

00:16:59.380 And now we hear Joe Biden may be issuing him some sort of preemptive pardon because he did something wrong.

00:17:04.800 Colonel, I want to take a quick break here.

00:17:06.460 When we return, you had mentioned the money that's being dumped everywhere.

00:17:09.340 $20 billion more going to Ukraine before Joe Biden leaves.

00:17:12.580 But it's only a loan.

00:17:13.280 We're going to get it back.

00:17:14.180 We're talking with Colonel Doug McGregory.

00:17:16.220 He's the CEO of Our Country, Our Choice.

00:17:17.920 We're coming right back.

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00:18:20.520 We're back.

00:18:24.060 We're talking with Colonel Doug Greger.

00:18:25.520 He's the CEO of Our Country, Our Choice.

00:18:27.700 Colonel, before we went to break, I mentioned the $20 billion loan that Zelensky's getting before Joe Biden leaves.

00:18:34.020 It's part of a $50 billion G7 support package.

00:18:37.580 You do the math now.

00:18:38.620 You know, G7, they're giving $30 billion.

00:18:41.080 We're giving $20 billion.

00:18:42.700 Doesn't really add up here.

00:18:44.480 I'm not sure if it's a gift from Joe Biden for some sort of business his son will be running once he gets back.

00:18:50.100 But, I mean, how are we still going in this Ukraine war after all of this time?

00:18:55.700 I say it all the time on the show, and I know you agree.

00:18:57.940 There's no way Ukraine wins this war.

00:18:59.520 What are we doing?

00:19:00.900 I think it's appropriate to think of Biden and his administration as a collection of arsonists.

00:19:09.100 They've set fires in Ukraine.

00:19:12.820 They've set fires in the Middle East, and they're uncontrolled, burning out of control, destroying everything.

00:19:20.400 And so they've decided on their way out, since they can't stay in power, to throw as much gasoline as possible on them to sabotage whatever comes after them.

00:19:29.880 Whatever comes after them is President Donald Trump.

00:19:32.480 Now, it depends on how Trump handles these things, but we have to assume that 50% of everything you send to Ukraine is essentially lost in corruption.

00:19:44.340 Right.

00:19:44.620 It's just stolen.

00:19:45.900 Right.

00:19:46.120 I mean, look, if you've got President Zelensky's wife driving a Bugatti, you know, up and down the highway between Poland and Ukraine, there's something wrong with that picture.

00:19:57.440 Right.

00:19:57.680 I'm not saying that Bugatti isn't a good thing.

00:20:00.300 I remember a professional basketball player was brought up on charges on something, and in order to pay a fine, he turned around to his attorney.

00:20:08.060 He said, great job.

00:20:08.940 That's just one Bugatti payment.

00:20:11.300 All right.

00:20:11.960 So maybe we're dealing with something like that.

00:20:15.160 But, you know, bottom line is, it's disastrous.

00:20:18.920 You know, we're just making matters worse.

00:20:21.500 This is not in our interest as a state, as a nation.

00:20:25.140 It's not in the interest of anyone, at least of all the American people.

00:20:29.220 Nobody voted for this stuff.

00:20:31.120 Right.

00:20:32.260 Remember?

00:20:33.400 Nobody.

00:20:34.300 In the meantime, what have we got open on the border?

00:20:37.000 No border.

00:20:38.020 Right.

00:20:38.700 Millions poured in.

00:20:39.660 We don't know where they are.

00:20:40.860 And that's the existential question for us.

00:20:44.760 What are we going to do about the border?

00:20:46.060 What are we going to do to stop the deaths of over 110, 120,000 Americans a year from fentanyl?

00:20:52.020 Well, you're not going to stop it by getting on television and preaching, don't take fentanyl.

00:20:56.440 You're going to have to stop the fentanyl from coming in.

00:20:59.820 Nobody's made any damn effort to do that.

00:21:01.960 I know some good people in the police and Border Patrol have tried, but they're overwhelmed.

00:21:07.320 These are the things that Americans voted for.

00:21:09.660 They didn't vote for widespread war, eternal war in Ukraine.

00:21:13.520 The Europeans, all these governments in Europe are going to change.

00:21:16.860 Yep.

00:21:17.040 It started in Germany.

00:21:18.360 It's going to hit France and Great Britain, everywhere. 0.94

00:21:21.480 And you know what?

00:21:22.720 Eventually, they're all going to say we're out.

00:21:24.900 Yep.

00:21:25.660 You look what's happening in Canada right now.

00:21:27.420 Canada right now, Colonel.

00:21:28.780 They have had enough.

00:21:29.880 I mean, Trudeau, Trump has this amazing effect that he's able to have on people.

00:21:35.420 And if they're bad people, he manages to have everyone hate them.

00:21:38.580 Trudeau has already hated to begin with.

00:21:40.000 But you see what's happening in his parliament right now, and they want him out of there.

00:21:43.300 Going back to Ukraine, the endless money, it seems Trump's not fully on board with Ukraine entering NATO.

00:21:51.080 So NATO, it's unclear if we'll even be in NATO in the next four years.

00:21:56.100 But looking at it, and you know what?

00:21:58.000 We're probably going to get put up on some web page somewhere, maybe a media that we're Russian simps.

00:22:02.140 But I'm not.

00:22:03.200 I have no affiliation with Russia or anything like that.

00:22:05.780 But if you look at it from Russia's standpoint, how do you think they look at it when you tell them NATO is going to be on their border?

00:22:14.440 How do you explain that to them when they're a single country watching there, and they have an organization of NATO on their border with missiles on their border?

00:22:24.020 How do you explain that if you're NATO to Russia?

00:22:26.880 Well, I think the analogy is very simple, that Mexico and Cuba are both going to join the greater Russian-Chinese alliance.

00:22:35.640 And as a result, large numbers of Chinese and Russian troops, technicians and military experts, along with armaments, are pouring into Mexico and into Cuba.

00:22:46.780 And there's a large buildup of force in Mexico, and everybody's trying to figure out what it's for.

00:22:52.000 And they finally realize it's designed to invade us and destroy us.

00:22:56.880 Gosh, what would we do?

00:22:59.280 I think we would have long ago launched B-52s and carpet bombed everything in sight, because that's our normal response.

00:23:06.520 The Russians waited for years to do anything, and they saw this cancer metastasizing over decades.

00:23:13.360 They looked for someone with sense and honesty to say, wait a minute, we have interest in what happens in Cuba and places like Mexico.

00:23:22.740 So doesn't Russia have a legitimate security interest in Ukraine?

00:23:27.140 Not to annex it, not to govern it, but to simply ensure that it doesn't become a platform for attack against Russia.

00:23:34.400 Too late.

00:23:35.720 Right.

00:23:36.140 And nobody wants to see it that way.

00:23:37.960 Nobody wants to look at it from Russia's standpoint. 0.76

00:23:40.420 I'm not old enough to remember, but I've read a fair amount of history about 1 October in 1962, in the 13-day period of something called the Cuban Missile Crisis.

00:23:52.620 Sure.

00:23:53.020 It's not just you had mentioned Russia with respect to Mexico and Cuba.

00:23:58.380 I invite everyone to go look at what they're doing in Honduras right now, how much money China has invested in Honduras, building electrical power plants, electrical dams in Honduras.

00:24:09.200 Go look at a map, and you'll find out where Honduras is relative to the United States, and you're soon going to realize it's not just caravans that are going to be coming through that southern border.

00:24:17.440 It's going to be far worse than that.

00:24:19.920 You know, I just don't know.

00:24:20.980 How does this end, Colonel?

00:24:22.020 How does this end with Russia and Ukraine?

00:24:25.680 It ends with the destruction of the Ukrainian nation, which is well underway. 0.97

00:24:31.020 How many millions have left is anybody's guess?

00:24:33.560 What's the true population of a state that once had almost 40 million is now down to, what, 17 or 18 million?

00:24:41.500 Hundreds of thousands of dead.

00:24:43.760 At least 600,000 dead on the battlefield, probably more.

00:24:47.180 And most of your casualties in any war are taken at the end.

00:24:52.080 You know, it's hard for us to imagine, but for every German soldier killed on the Eastern Front, roughly six Soviet soldiers died.

00:25:00.740 Now, when did the numbers begin to favor the Soviets?

00:25:04.600 At the end, when the remaining German forces were compelled to retreat.

00:25:09.720 The same thing was true for the Japanese. 0.87

00:25:12.400 The Ukrainians are dying in great numbers every day, pointlessly. 1.00

00:25:16.120 Why perpetuate this?

00:25:18.380 Well, I think it's not going to work.

00:25:21.420 I think ultimately Russia will decide the outcome.

00:25:23.560 And this recent assassination of a Russian general, probably by Ukrainian elements inside Russia.

00:25:29.940 And remember, Ukrainians can speak Russian as well as Russians.

00:25:34.320 Right.

00:25:34.540 They're very difficult to identify.

00:25:36.480 Russia is a huge country.

00:25:37.800 Well, the largest in the world, if not the largest.

00:25:40.200 Borders are open and porous.

00:25:41.540 So you can get in and out.

00:25:43.440 It's not well guarded.

00:25:46.380 The problem is, how do you guard thousands of miles?

00:25:49.580 It just doesn't work.

00:25:50.900 So I think the bottom line is that Russia will eventually crush what remains east of the river. 0.93

00:25:59.200 I think they'll probably go into Kiev and root out this government.

00:26:03.560 And at some point, the Europeans are going to say, that's it.

00:26:06.940 This is enough.

00:26:07.660 Because that means that the Russians will continue west until they're on the Polish border. 0.86

00:26:12.480 Not because they want to.

00:26:14.080 They don't.

00:26:15.360 That's the big lie.

00:26:17.040 I mean, if we've learned anything, anybody's learned anything for the last century and the century that preceded it, occupying places is a disaster. 0.52

00:26:25.440 And it's expensive.

00:26:26.120 You want them to rule themselves.

00:26:28.940 You just don't want your neighbor to be a blood enemy of the country that you live in.

00:26:34.620 That's all.

00:26:35.520 Right.

00:26:36.020 And this is easily solved.

00:26:37.380 You know, make Ukraine look like Austria. 0.76

00:26:41.020 Austria became neutral in 1955.

00:26:44.240 Eisenhower loved it.

00:26:45.320 He said, let's find out whether or not we can make Poland and the rest of these places neutral. 0.69

00:26:49.900 Because he said, we can't possibly defend them all.

00:26:52.640 Right.

00:26:53.060 Well, he was right.

00:26:53.840 We have no interest in war in that part of the world. 0.99

00:26:58.000 And the Europeans that have been governing are maniacs. 0.99

00:27:01.380 They've signed on for this ludicrous nonsense. 0.99

00:27:04.140 The rules based order, which is just an order that represents whatever we want.

00:27:09.320 We call it the rule.

00:27:10.620 America wants the rules.

00:27:11.960 This a lot of Americans think, oh, that's great.

00:27:14.500 We're powerful.

00:27:15.000 But Washington has made itself universally hated.

00:27:18.480 And we need to get out of this business.

00:27:20.300 And that's what Donald Trump, I think, wants to do.

00:27:22.440 Whether or not he can, I don't know.

00:27:24.800 Let me ask you before we, because you mentioned a lot of good stuff in there.

00:27:28.140 And fighting wars over there, like you said, nobody voted for.

00:27:32.120 And we're going to get to the war that we have here at home.

00:27:34.260 And that's the border with the cartels.

00:27:36.180 Before we get to that, I want to just wrap up on the Russia-Ukraine issue with,

00:27:40.320 if there is a concession to be made on Zelensky's behalf.

00:27:44.600 And I think you're right.

00:27:46.040 I've said, since I've taken over this show for the great Lou Dobbs in August, I think

00:27:51.680 we're going to see Zelensky one day get on an airplane with a bag of cash, with a few

00:27:55.780 duffel bags, and never be seen again.

00:27:58.100 In some country, we'll find him later on, his wife and all of them.

00:28:01.540 But I think that's how it ends.

00:28:02.940 And Russia ultimately does take over.

00:28:05.980 In a perfect world, Colonel, with Donald Trump as chief negotiator, what does a concession

00:28:11.480 look like for Ukraine with regard to Russia?

00:28:17.480 What President Trump should do is immediately suspend all military aid to Ukraine on the

00:28:23.740 day that he is inaugurated.

00:28:25.760 Number one, the only thing that keeps Ukraine alive is whatever support we provide, particularly 0.99

00:28:32.600 in terms of cash.

00:28:34.260 With the cash, you can pay off the crooks at the top of the Ukrainian army, the Ukrainian 0.98

00:28:38.980 bureaucracy, the Ukrainian government.

00:28:41.640 Cut off the cash, the whole thing falls apart.

00:28:45.440 Secondly, he should withdraw all U.S. personnel from Ukraine, both military or intelligence,

00:28:53.540 in and out of uniform.

00:28:54.480 It doesn't matter.

00:28:55.140 Everybody leaves.

00:28:56.260 Now, once these two things happen, I think the Europeans can convene a conference.

00:29:02.740 We don't need to do it.

00:29:03.920 Frankly, do you really care how much of eastern Ukraine remains Russian?

00:29:09.080 No.

00:29:09.600 I don't care.

00:29:10.940 I have no interest in that whatsoever.

00:29:13.040 I don't want to see any of my sons shipped overseas to fight for eastern Ukraine.

00:29:18.060 Sorry.

00:29:18.740 It's not important.

00:29:19.920 So it's a European matter at that point.

00:29:23.520 Then it's up to the Germans, the Poles, Lithuanians, Latvians, Estonians, Romanians.

00:29:28.380 And what we need to tell them is we're out.

00:29:31.140 This is your problem.

00:29:32.440 Remember when President Trump was in at the beginning and the first time he took the position

00:29:37.320 that look at Europe, look at Japan.

00:29:39.920 These people are very wealthy.

00:29:41.140 They've got all the material wealth they need.

00:29:43.860 Why can't they defend themselves?

00:29:45.300 And what he really wanted was not so much an end to NATO at that stage, but he wanted

00:29:50.620 them to be their own first responders.

00:29:54.120 Well, come on.

00:29:55.080 Let's get out of this, folks.

00:29:57.200 Russia does not want to march west. 0.66

00:29:59.080 Russia has no aspirations to conquer anything. 0.91

00:30:02.120 Russia wants to do business, which is what we should be interested in.

00:30:07.600 Get out of this business of criticizing everybody else's government.

00:30:11.060 Ours is certainly not perfect.

00:30:12.620 I don't see anybody else's government is perfect, but we all live on the planet.

00:30:17.380 So let's do business.

00:30:18.960 Yeah, I think Trump is inclined in that direction if he's allowed to do it.

00:30:24.180 Yeah, I think you're you're absolutely right.

00:30:26.800 We're going to take up on the other side of this quick break.

00:30:28.860 Before we go to break, I want to touch on one more thing, but we're going to take up

00:30:31.600 our border here at home.

00:30:32.940 We're also going to take up a new piece that you have with regard to Israel and Iran and

00:30:36.980 another war that we're somehow in the middle of over there.

00:30:40.100 Before we go to break, though, Assad being forced out of Syria, it poses a little bit

00:30:45.960 of an issue for Russia that I want to take up with you.

00:30:49.400 And it's Russians losing the Syrian port of TARDIS, and it's their only place that they're 0.93

00:30:54.300 able to refill their subs.

00:30:56.060 Now, Ukrainian intelligence.

00:30:57.440 So we'll take this with a grain of salt, says just before two weeks, two weeks ago when

00:31:02.200 Syria had this whole regime change, those five ships were heading back to Russia, signaling

00:31:09.740 that they may be pulling out of there completely.

00:31:13.240 What can you tell us about Russia's role in Syria?

00:31:18.400 And I mean, will they still have some sort of presence there as it regards to them pulling

00:31:23.340 out of the space?

00:31:24.620 We have roughly 840 bases beyond the borders of our country all over the world.

00:31:31.120 Russia had won in Syria.

00:31:34.300 Right.

00:31:35.480 It was never seen as a vital strategic interest to Russia.

00:31:40.080 There were lots of people in Russia that said, sure, we want to help Assad, but why do we want

00:31:44.700 our troops on foreign soil?

00:31:46.300 Right.

00:31:46.560 So I think departing Syria may be a disappointment in some ways, but I don't think it's viewed

00:31:53.640 the same way we think it is here.

00:31:56.260 This is not an embarrassment.

00:31:58.180 They knew that Assad's government was on shaky ground.

00:32:01.800 We've been trying to overthrow it since 2011.

00:32:04.980 We've destroyed its income.

00:32:07.060 We've carved up the place into various entities.

00:32:10.680 So I think they probably said, we've done all we can do.

00:32:13.460 We're going to cut our losses and go.

00:32:15.120 It's something I wish we would do right now in Ukraine.

00:32:18.420 Russia is focused on what the threats are to its country along its borders.

00:32:22.920 It's not focused on faraway places.

00:32:26.140 It wants to be in good stead with all of the Muslim Arabs.

00:32:30.040 They have 20 million Muslims inside Russia.

00:32:32.900 Those Muslims out of 140 million Russian citizens have been assimilated.

00:32:38.280 Those are happy people.

00:32:40.340 There will be no Muslim uprising inside Russia's borders.

00:32:43.220 But the point is, they want to get along for business purposes.

00:32:49.180 That's what the Chinese want. 0.99

00:32:50.520 You mentioned, I guess you mentioned something about the Chinese building something in Honduras.

00:32:55.780 Well, the Chinese are trying to make inroads all over the world. 0.99

00:32:59.720 Of course.

00:33:00.160 But they're not sending military power.

00:33:03.160 We've become too militarized.

00:33:05.200 Right.

00:33:05.380 We've got to get out of this business of militarizing our foreign policy.

00:33:09.520 Right.

00:33:10.660 Because, you know what?

00:33:11.460 I mean, we're in it for one simple reason.

00:33:13.260 And I know you agree with me on this.

00:33:15.220 It's padding the pockets of these military industrial complex folks, the Lindsey Grahams of the Senate, these folks who are all for wars overseas.

00:33:23.660 Now, I don't understand something, and maybe you can explain it to me in layman's, because it seems very simple to me, yet so difficult.

00:33:32.840 We watch what happens when we destroy regimes as America.

00:33:36.000 We watch what happened in Iraq.

00:33:37.700 We watch what happened in Afghanistan.

00:33:39.020 We created ISIS. 0.98

00:33:39.920 The CIA created ISIS.

00:33:40.860 We created the Taliban. 1.00

00:33:41.940 We allowed them to do these things.

00:33:42.980 Now we have Syria, another regime change, which presumably we'll see something else pop up with these folks being able to do whatever they want, free reign.

00:33:52.480 When will America learn their lesson, Colonel, that we cannot be the world's police?

00:33:56.880 And by us overthrowing governments, which is not our job, we're creating more destruction than we would have had in the first place with these people just running their own countries however they want to run it, as long as it's not bothering us.

00:34:10.720 The bottom line is, as I wrote in the American Conservative, is that we're replacing this phony rules-based international order, which just is whatever we want, with chaos.

00:34:22.340 It's back to our original discussion.

00:34:24.860 If we can't have it our way, then we'll just become bomb throwers, arsonists, throw the gasoline on the fire and let it burn itself to the ground.

00:34:34.760 That's not making us very popular around the world.

00:34:38.220 And Syria is a perfect example. 1.00

00:34:39.740 It's gone.

00:34:40.440 It doesn't exist.

00:34:41.380 It's disintegrated.

00:34:42.440 It's not just a question of blocking resupply from Iran to Hezbollah.

00:34:47.740 And by the way, if history teaches us anything, they'll find another way to resupply them.

00:34:52.920 But the bottom line is that for the moment, Syria has disintegrated.

00:34:56.600 It doesn't exist.

00:34:57.400 It's going to be carved up.

00:34:58.640 And we see a partition of Syria along territorial lines between Israel and Turkey, both of whom aspire to be hegemonic powers in the region. 0.73

00:35:08.980 Now, the Turks have almost 90 million people.

00:35:12.200 The Israelis only have six and a half million Jews.

00:35:14.920 I don't know how many are left in Israel right now since many of them left during the war.

00:35:19.400 That's pretty tough to exercise hegemony with that small number.

00:35:22.380 That means that that hegemony depends on us.

00:35:27.680 And do we have an interest in that?

00:35:29.460 I think we've got a lot of interests that we shouldn't we shouldn't necessarily have.

00:35:35.460 Colonel, I want to take one more quick break here.

00:35:37.140 When you turn, I want to take up that that American Digger article.

00:35:39.680 And I also want to take up the war that we had spoken about, the war here at home.

00:35:43.560 And that's our southern border.

00:35:45.640 It's a real war.

00:35:46.560 It's one that that's affecting everybody we know.

00:35:49.240 I probably you probably know many people who have been affected by drugs, whether it's families or them directly.

00:35:54.000 I know plenty of them.

00:35:55.200 And it's ruining our country.

00:35:57.080 And Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have allowed it to happen.

00:36:01.360 No inroads.

00:36:02.380 We're coming right back with Colonel McGregor.

00:36:04.040 He's the CEO of our country.

00:36:05.300 Our choice, folks.

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00:37:10.940 Folks, we're back with Colonel Doug McGregor.

00:37:12.900 He's the CEO of Our Country, Our Choice.

00:37:15.040 He's got a new piece out for American Thinker, and I recommend it to you guys to go read.

00:37:18.980 It's a short, great read.

00:37:20.540 Iran, America's next war of choice. 0.97

00:37:22.900 The U.S. is at risk of being buffaloed into a bloody war of regional realignment in the wake of serious collapse.

00:37:28.580 And you can go ahead and read that over at American Conservative.

00:37:32.900 Colonel McGregor, great piece.

00:37:37.580 There's so much going on in this world.

00:37:41.220 Another war now in Syria.

00:37:43.200 What is Israel's play here as it relates to now moving into Syria?

00:37:48.800 As if they don't have enough wars going on in Lebanon or in the Gaza Strip or, you know, you point it out.

00:37:56.940 People will remember 7 October.

00:37:59.540 And when I first saw the film footage, including some of the footage that not everyone has seen, I was horrified.

00:38:05.060 And, you know, I thought that the Israelis had every right in the world to respond to it. 0.83

00:38:12.260 But I hoped at the time that they would respond in some way other than collective punishment.

00:38:17.460 When you when you engage in collective punishment, you nearly always fail.

00:38:21.440 I've seen that in the army.

00:38:23.120 I've seen it everywhere.

00:38:24.360 You seek to punish 800 people for what one or two did.

00:38:28.480 It fails miserably.

00:38:29.900 But then as I looked at it, more and more and more information came into me.

00:38:33.920 I've begun to think that what happened on 7 October was allowed to happen.

00:38:38.960 Because everyone knew about it.

00:38:40.860 When I say everyone, you had people in the Israeli system of intelligence,

00:38:45.640 especially a group of women who were tasked with the responsibility to monitor everything that happened in Gaza. 0.76

00:38:51.120 They were IDF members.

00:38:53.000 And the Israelis, by the way, are very smart.

00:38:54.460 They bring people in and then they say, OK, you have an IQ of 160.

00:38:59.060 You go over there.

00:39:00.580 And because you're really smart, we want you to focus on just these things.

00:39:04.040 We don't do that.

00:39:05.240 We tend to hammer lots of round pegs into square holes. 0.99

00:39:09.280 It's stupid, but we do it. 0.99

00:39:11.240 They don't. 1.00

00:39:12.340 And these women did a brilliant job and they anticipated what was coming and they reported it. 0.99

00:39:17.500 And they were told you're wrong.

00:39:19.840 Then the day before this attack unfolded, you had the deputy chief of intelligence, deputy chief of staff for intelligence in Egypt,

00:39:30.080 contact the head of intelligence in Israel directly and say, we see a horrible attack building in Gaza directed at you.

00:39:39.780 Now, I've been down to Gaza.

00:39:43.660 I've seen the Israeli security measures and I visited their headquarters.

00:39:47.260 The Israelis are very competent people.

00:39:49.400 Not much happened over there that they would not know about.

00:39:52.020 It would have taken almost no effort at all to say, well, as a just as a precautionary measure, let's bring down a reaction force of tanks and Merkava vehicle, Merkava tanks.

00:40:03.640 How many tanks do you want?

00:40:04.740 Fifteen, twenty.

00:40:06.080 And then we want to put attack helicopters on standby and we'll put a couple of jets on strip alert.

00:40:13.240 If they'd done that, as soon as something broke in Gaza, it would have been destroyed.

00:40:19.500 It would it wouldn't have made it one hundred and fifty meters.

00:40:22.500 That didn't happen.

00:40:23.520 I couldn't believe it.

00:40:25.020 I was shocked because I'd been there.

00:40:26.700 I'd seen them.

00:40:27.220 I know they knew what was going on.

00:40:29.320 Plus, Israel's got to be the most secure country on this planet, Colonel.

00:40:33.780 Yeah, I think so.

00:40:34.960 I've always been a great admirer of the Israeli wall, simply because we should be building something like that across our Mexican border. 0.98

00:40:43.020 And there are places in the north that we could use that sort of thing.

00:40:46.420 But my point is, I really think they knew it was coming.

00:40:50.040 Netanyahu may be responsible for this.

00:40:51.820 And he decided that this would be his opportunity to leverage this event to justify mass ethnic cleansing of Arabs in Gaza and ultimately the West Bank.

00:41:03.020 But as he said several weeks afterwards, we are going to settle accounts with everyone.

00:41:08.800 We have a front down in Gaza.

00:41:10.500 We have a front in southern Lebanon.

00:41:12.320 We have a front on the West Bank.

00:41:14.700 We've got a front with the Houthis. 0.92

00:41:16.140 We've got a front against people in Syria. 1.00

00:41:19.720 We have another front against Iran. 0.99

00:41:21.540 We're going to settle it all.

00:41:23.420 We when we're through, it'll all be gone.

00:41:25.180 And right now he's boasting that he's changed the face of the Middle East. 0.91

00:41:29.340 Well, I think he has.

00:41:31.060 But nothing ever stays the same.

00:41:33.340 And when you throw a grenade into a mess like that, you're going to have a lot of blowback.

00:41:38.380 And the blowback hasn't even really begun yet for Israel.

00:41:41.540 And we're the ones that are being asked to protect us from the blowback.

00:41:45.400 So I think the next step for him is attack Iran while he can. 1.00

00:41:50.400 And I don't think he's going to wait for Donald Trump to be inaugurated because many of his advisors and his inner circle may say,

00:41:57.820 well, if we wait, are we certain that that Donald Trump will go along with what we want to do to Iran?

00:42:06.660 Or will he raise questions?

00:42:08.560 Will he try to constrain us?

00:42:10.760 You know, I met with Donald Trump.

00:42:12.920 I know his intentions are true and good.

00:42:15.000 He may not always understand everything, but this is not someone who argues for war.

00:42:19.980 Right.

00:42:20.660 Now, what would he really do?

00:42:22.600 So I think they would much prefer to present him with a fait accompli.

00:42:26.420 Let's get the war with Iran started because they know once that begins, it's not going to end quickly. 0.97

00:42:32.600 It's not going to be over in a couple of days.

00:42:34.920 Now, that presupposes that he does not, that is, Netanyahu does not authorize a first strike with nuclear weapons.

00:42:42.520 Right.

00:42:43.320 That could happen, in which case it's still not going to end quickly, but it could spread very rapidly and become extremely damaging to everyone.

00:42:50.160 But that aside, I think they would like to have this underway and put President Trump in the position of we have to support us now, because as soon as they come under serious attack, they'll scream bloody murder for us.

00:43:03.680 And we'll be in another war, another endless war over in the Middle East that has absolutely nothing to do with us.

00:43:09.800 Going back to, you know, we had heard reports that I believe it was Egypt had told Israel about that planned October 7th attack.

00:43:17.100 You know, Lou, and I don't know.

00:43:19.420 We both don't know.

00:43:20.620 We've taken all the information and then we make a decision or an opinion based on it.

00:43:25.440 Lou always used to tell me, if something doesn't seem right, lift up the rug and there's probably a mouse under the rug.

00:43:31.100 And it just makes you wonder.

00:43:33.720 The most policed country in the world, the most police territory in the world, the most secure territory in the world, the best probably intelligence in the world would allow something like this to happen.

00:43:45.840 But it wouldn't be the first time in history we've seen we saw 9-11 about the intel that we knew that came in from 9-11.

00:43:52.400 A friend of mine, Tony Schaefer, had tried to alert the government about one of the bombers on 9-11.

00:43:59.740 We find out later, you know, at the end of the day, Colonel, it all gets brushed under the rug.

00:44:04.360 It's a conspiracy.

00:44:05.560 It never happened.

00:44:07.100 It may have happened, but it wasn't good intel.

00:44:09.460 Well, I'm sorry, but if someone gives you a decent intel that someone's going to blow up your country, if someone's going to do a mass killing on your homeland, you better take it and heed the warning at least somewhat.

00:44:22.020 So you say Netanyahu's top priority is the destruction of Iran before Russia wraps up its victory in Ukraine.

00:44:29.560 We've only got about a month before Donald Trump comes in.

00:44:32.920 Is he able to do that?

00:44:33.940 I mean, he goes into Gaza, which I told you before the show, I equate him invading Gaza if Rhode Island wasn't a state and the United States were to invade Rhode Island. 0.52

00:44:45.720 It would be gone in an hour.

00:44:47.340 Now we look at this thing going on a year, over a year, still Gaza's still there. 1.00

00:44:53.180 Everything's still flowing.

00:44:54.540 What is taking him so long?

00:44:55.980 The parallels between this Zelensky thing in Ukraine and Netanyahu in Gaza and Lebanon seem far too similar, in my opinion.

00:45:07.900 Well, first of all, I think we need to set aside Zelensky. 0.97

00:45:10.880 He's always been a puppet for Washington.

00:45:14.060 He's going to bloviate until it becomes clear that he is either going to be killed if he stays or had better flee and, as you say, leave with stacks of cash.

00:45:22.740 Although I'm sure he's already moved a lot of his wealth into banks in the United States, as well as Cyprus and other places.

00:45:31.760 So he's dead.

00:45:33.140 It's over with.

00:45:34.120 I'll be surprised if he survives.

00:45:36.560 Now, secondly, when it comes to Israel, it's a different story.

00:45:40.260 Go back and look at President Netanyahu's speech in front of, I think it was the UN, where he held up a map and he pointed to the map.

00:45:48.080 And look at that.

00:45:48.820 Look at the borders on that map.

00:45:50.260 The borders are very different from Israel's borders.

00:45:53.380 You no longer saw anything on there really about Jordan.

00:45:57.100 Syria was largely ignored.

00:45:59.100 Half of it was now part of Israel.

00:46:01.760 Southern Lebanon was part of Israel.

00:46:03.540 And even the Sinai and part of Egypt was part of Israel.

00:46:07.160 So I think that's the game plan.

00:46:10.620 And he's determined to make it work.

00:46:12.220 And his view is we are the key to success.

00:46:15.940 As long as we are obedient to his demands, he can do anything he wants.

00:46:20.760 And I think the evidence to this point demonstrates that he's correct.

00:46:24.400 Now, is President Trump willing to cede his presidency to Mr. Netanyahu?

00:46:30.360 Biden effectively did that.

00:46:32.260 Yeah.

00:46:33.160 I mean, go back and listen to early Biden before dementia.

00:46:36.540 Then listen to Biden after dementia.

00:46:39.080 There are two different people.

00:46:41.120 I mean, this is a man who talked about very different things in the Middle East, very different things in Ukraine and Russia.

00:46:46.460 I think he's not in control and hasn't been for a long time, which is why I called for his removal, gee, at least a year ago, if not earlier.

00:46:55.780 Right.

00:46:56.140 It's tragic.

00:46:56.880 It hasn't happened.

00:46:57.480 We don't know who's been calling the shots.

00:46:59.140 I hear a lot of strange rumors on that.

00:47:01.240 But I think we know he isn't.

00:47:03.480 Is President Trump willing to let others call the shots for him on behalf of Netanyahu?

00:47:08.840 Or will he become president of the United States?

00:47:11.520 Will we have an American first administration?

00:47:14.460 And everybody acts like, well, that's terrible.

00:47:16.800 That's isolation.

00:47:17.580 No, it isn't.

00:47:19.320 Isolation means that you seal yourself off for the rest of the world.

00:47:22.480 All most of us who have advocated for an America first policy have said is we don't want to use military power all over the world.

00:47:31.320 Right.

00:47:32.280 That should not be our first choice.

00:47:34.700 We should opt for diplomacy.

00:47:36.780 We should opt for economic assistance.

00:47:38.900 We've got to get out of this business of sanctioning and bullying people.

00:47:42.540 All we do is bully, bribe, or bomb.

00:47:46.820 Right.

00:47:47.340 It's got to go away.

00:47:48.340 Right.

00:47:49.280 You should tell that to the senators.

00:47:51.020 You know, you bring up a very interesting point about Netanyahu wanting to push his borders further.

00:47:56.220 And I think it does bring in some sort of conflict if he thinks Trump is going to help him with it.

00:48:00.880 And it's simply because of the Abraham Accords. 0.72

00:48:03.740 How does Netanyahu get past that when President Trump is the one who has attempted to broker peace?

00:48:10.420 How does he convince Trump to say, you know, you can push into the borders of Jordan, you can push into the borders of Egypt, you can push into the borders of Lebanon, you can push the borders wherever you want.

00:48:19.800 Now, when four years ago, President Trump was the only reason I say this on every show I talk about foreign policy.

00:48:26.000 President Trump is the only reason Israel is standing right now because of those Abraham Accords. 0.61

00:48:29.600 If those Abraham Accords aren't in place, I think Israel is probably wiped off the face of the map after October 7th. 0.98

00:48:35.740 That's my opinion on that.

00:48:36.780 But how does Netanyahu go to President Trump and say, well, now I want to expand my borders here after President Trump just four years ago brokered peace in the Middle East for this to not happen?

00:48:46.940 Well, this is where we go back to the original point about arson.

00:48:50.780 The fires are set.

00:48:52.900 They're raging out of control.

00:48:55.380 How do you stop the fires from burning all the way across the region and affecting virtually everybody? 0.87

00:49:01.240 These Islamists that are killing large numbers of people, many of whom are Christians, beheadings, you know, the usual thing. 0.99

00:49:09.620 We see these videos that are, quote unquote, unauthorized of people being mass murdered inside Syria. 0.81

00:49:16.280 Then we see another video that's obviously staged where the Islamist jihadist stands there and says, oh, we love Israel. 0.53

00:49:23.500 Right.

00:49:24.080 Of course.

00:49:24.380 Good luck with that. 0.79

00:49:25.720 I think the Israelis are smarter than that.

00:49:27.920 But the point is that everything's being burned down.

00:49:31.840 When everything's burning down, what do you do about it?

00:49:35.260 You try to put the fire out.

00:49:36.600 But frequently, if you don't put it out quickly, what does it do?

00:49:40.300 It spreads.

00:49:40.920 Well, it's already spreading.

00:49:42.540 That's why the Turkish army is building up on the border with the Kurdish state inside Syria.

00:49:47.800 The Turks are going to crush the Kurds. 1.00

00:49:50.260 Absolutely. 0.98

00:49:50.880 Without question.

00:49:52.760 They've been up to this for a long time.

00:49:54.440 People now don't remember when we went into Saudi Arabia and Kuwait and Iraq in 1990, 1991, the Turks asked us, please don't dismember Saddam Hussein's state.

00:50:09.240 If you dismember this state, we'll end up with a hostile state on our border called Kurdistan. 0.97

00:50:15.040 Right.

00:50:15.640 Well, we effectively did it anyway.

00:50:17.520 And 2003 begged us not to go in and, of course, told us, we're not helping you destroy Iraq.

00:50:24.380 Go somewhere else.

00:50:25.520 You're not going through Turkey. 0.59

00:50:26.640 We all forget these things.

00:50:28.420 I'm not saying that I support the Turks. 0.86

00:50:30.440 What I'm trying to point to, and this is something we don't get, nations have interests.

00:50:37.900 We tend to ignore those because, as far as we're concerned, everything everywhere is of interest to us.

00:50:43.740 Right.

00:50:44.040 And, in fact, it isn't.

00:50:45.460 Right.

00:50:45.700 But they have interests.

00:50:46.980 We don't respect them.

00:50:47.920 The Turks are now going to fix this problem.

00:50:50.620 Now, once this problem is underway, it's going to take some time.

00:50:53.640 You don't smash something like the Kurdish state inside Syria overnight.

00:50:59.160 I don't know how long it'll take.

00:51:01.280 The Israelis, in the meantime, are holding on to the bottom southern portion of it. 0.97

00:51:06.740 But let me point to something else that nobody in the West has talked about.

00:51:10.720 It's very important.

00:51:11.660 I wouldn't have noticed it except good friends from the region pointed it out to me.

00:51:16.400 The Turkish intelligence chief, just a few days ago, flew to Damascus for meetings with the jihadists.

00:51:24.740 As soon as he landed, he got off.

00:51:27.600 He had a Turkish military and secret police escort.

00:51:30.320 They took him to the Umayyad Mosque.

00:51:34.240 The Umayyad Mosque was built by the same group of sultans or Turks and Arabs that built the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem.

00:51:43.740 It's about the same age.

00:51:46.000 It goes back to the 9th and 10th centuries, roughly from 850 to 940.

00:51:52.240 This is a very important mosque because the Umayyad dynasty, which was the second caliphate after Muhammad, is maybe they call it the first.

00:52:02.060 I don't know.

00:52:02.500 But it was a caliphate.

00:52:03.900 It's associated with Muhammad's successors.

00:52:06.840 He went there and he prayed in the Umayyad Mosque.

00:52:12.120 Nobody paid attention to it.

00:52:13.340 That's what he did.

00:52:14.120 The first thing he did in Damascus.

00:52:16.500 Now, that was a signal to everybody in the region of what?

00:52:22.680 The empire is back.

00:52:25.680 The empire being the Ottoman Empire.

00:52:28.260 Right.

00:52:28.400 That's what he was there for.

00:52:31.460 He prayed there.

00:52:32.760 We have returned.

00:52:34.480 Because they never, ever, ever, ever in Turkey accepted the outcome of the First World War. 0.80

00:52:41.220 Kamal Ataturk did that because he knew the Turks were too weak to do anything about it.

00:52:47.040 He wanted an end to all that fighting so he could build the state up.

00:52:50.520 Well, Turkey is no longer weak.

00:52:52.380 It is a major regional power.

00:52:54.700 And they are now feeling their oats in a rather dramatic way.

00:52:57.760 So that visit was very symbolic and very important.

00:53:01.040 I'm sure the Israelis figured it out. 0.62

00:53:03.040 Yeah.

00:53:03.320 Maybe they did.

00:53:04.100 Maybe they've reached the point where they are so arrogant that they dismiss this.

00:53:07.840 But that's a symbolic move. 0.97

00:53:10.560 Anyone who doesn't think so is deranged.

00:53:15.120 This was a big signal to the whole Islamic world. 1.00

00:53:19.960 Oh, my God.

00:53:21.140 We're in a big trouble.

00:53:22.820 I mean, you mentioned the interests of people and why we're in these wars.

00:53:27.200 And, you know, the only interest I could think of, Colonel, is the military-industrial complex and these folks making money.

00:53:32.620 President Trump, you often heard him say when he was first in office, you know, we invade all these places.

00:53:37.480 We didn't even take the oil.

00:53:39.060 You know, you mentioned every country has their interests.

00:53:41.360 We go into these countries.

00:53:42.540 We overthrow these governments.

00:53:43.680 We get nothing for it.

00:53:45.500 And I don't think we should get anything for it.

00:53:47.400 We're hated around the world, as you mentioned.

00:53:49.080 I completely agree with you on that.

00:53:51.280 And rightfully so, we go into these nations.

00:53:53.300 We tear them apart.

00:53:54.560 But we get absolutely nothing out of it.

00:53:56.680 We leave oil behind.

00:53:57.900 We leave equipment behind.

00:53:59.780 We leave military equipment behind to terrorists.

00:54:01.940 And it seems to be completely fine.

00:54:04.300 I know you're strapped on time, and I really appreciate you joining us here today, Colonel.

00:54:07.500 Before we wrap up, I promised we're going to talk about the war we have here at home, one that we should be fighting with terrorists here on our southern border, terrorists here in our country, the drug cartels, the drug lords, the drug manufacturers over in Mexico, the Chinese that come through that southern border. 0.99

00:54:23.500 What are we going to do?

00:54:24.660 I mean, do you think in this administration, President Trump will treat these folks like the terrorists they are and extinguish them the way they should be?

00:54:32.680 We heard in the first administration, according to some folks, that he maybe wanted to blow up some of those drug factories.

00:54:38.900 I thought it was the most brilliant thing he could have possibly done.

00:54:41.420 We've launched missiles in countries, as we spoke about all today, that have gotten us nothing, and they're for absolutely no reason.

00:54:47.900 This is for a reason.

00:54:49.220 Do you think we see him treat these folks like the terrorists they are?

00:54:53.780 Well, I hope so.

00:54:55.280 But I think the first thing that the president has to do is make it clear to the American people that Mexico is an organized crime state.

00:55:03.100 Absolutely.

00:55:03.900 Let's stop pretending that the president of Mexico controls or exerts influence over more of the country than perhaps 40 square miles in downtown Mexico City.

00:55:14.820 Yep.

00:55:15.380 Whatever he says, whatever he does, it has to be cleared with the drug lords.

00:55:20.700 The drug cartels control everything.

00:55:22.860 That includes most of the Army and the armed forces.

00:55:26.560 By the way, they're very well armed.

00:55:28.160 They've got a lot of equipment, intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance.

00:55:31.820 From where?

00:55:32.320 Where do they get it from?

00:55:33.700 We're worried about the drones we're seeing.

00:55:35.480 Well, strap yourselves in.

00:55:37.700 They've got plenty of unmanned aerial vehicles down in Mexico, some of which are armed.

00:55:43.860 You can watch carefully and you'll see our javelin missiles that were purchased probably from the Ukrainian mafia or mafiosos have been sold and are now in use down in Mexico.

00:55:55.120 Wow.

00:55:56.280 We've got real problems there.

00:55:57.900 The second thing is there is no alternative to military control of that border.

00:56:02.340 It's not because the Border Patrol isn't any good.

00:56:05.800 That's wrong.

00:56:07.160 These people, I mean, they've had a high suicide rate because so many people in the Border Patrol are absolutely beside themselves at what has happened.

00:56:15.560 J.J. Carroll has written a book about treason.

00:56:19.040 And he talks about the treasonous behavior of the last administration.

00:56:23.640 We're talking about the current one, actually.

00:56:25.720 I shouldn't say last.

00:56:26.880 And it's treatment of things on the border.

00:56:28.940 And J.J. Carroll is somebody you should bring on.

00:56:30.960 He was with the Border Patrol for over 20 years.

00:56:34.440 He'll tell you the same thing.

00:56:35.680 The problem for us now is that these millions of illegals in many cases are here because they went through the organized crime state to get here. 0.84

00:56:45.780 That means that they had to pay a certain price.

00:56:49.040 Now, we know a lot of almost all the women between 12 and 60 are raped.

00:56:53.540 But beyond that, we also know that a lot of these people are told once you get over there and we come to you and we tell you to do something, you better damn well do it.

00:57:01.880 The drug mafias are present now inside our country in all the major cities and in many places in the countryside. 0.87

00:57:09.440 They're also in control of so much information that it's frightening.

00:57:13.600 Nothing happens in that useless Department of Homeland Security that they don't know about.

00:57:19.300 So that's the war we have to fight.

00:57:25.380 It's the war we have to win or we will look like Central America in the future. 1.00

00:57:30.860 In every sense of the word, every sense of that word.

00:57:34.400 That means you go to Mexico, not just Mexico, Brazil, many other countries, and you'll see people with any degree of wealth at all.

00:57:42.140 They build a house.

00:57:42.880 They build a wall around it.

00:57:44.240 If they can't afford electronic surveillance, they put jagged glass or barbed wire on top of the wall.

00:57:50.760 They pay people to guard them, not let anybody in or go out unless they're told and so forth.

00:57:56.680 I don't want to live in that society.

00:57:58.580 But that's where we're headed unless we get control of it.

00:58:01.920 And frankly, this is the last thing I want to get across.

00:58:04.680 There is nothing more important than what happens in this country.

00:58:09.980 Whatever goes on overseas, anywhere else shrinks to insignificance compared with what happens here.

00:58:16.380 We've got to get through this terrible, terrible crisis here at home first.

00:58:21.300 And just imagine all the things that we know are wrong.

00:58:24.220 The financialization of our economy to the point where we don't produce anything.

00:58:28.260 Right.

00:58:28.660 This enormous sovereign debt, which everybody scoffs at and says, oh, it doesn't matter.

00:58:33.780 Well, it's going to matter.

00:58:35.480 We're going to find out one day.

00:58:36.740 Yeah.

00:58:37.360 And our currency is being destroyed.

00:58:40.440 Whatever else you want to go through.

00:58:42.180 Right now, it's very strong.

00:58:43.260 But in the long run, because of inflation and this money printing, it's in real trouble.

00:58:49.180 We need to take care of these things here at home now.

00:58:52.580 We can't afford to have the Justice Department and judges all over the country releasing criminals onto the streets, rewarding criminals and punishing police.

00:59:02.160 We can't do it.

00:59:03.080 We can't maintain the state in our society.

00:59:06.580 People don't seem to understand how important police forces are.

00:59:09.320 And they don't understand that our troops sitting in Poland, Lithuania, Romania are just wasting time, money.

00:59:17.300 They need to be home.

00:59:18.820 We need to get them down on these borders, not just on the one in the south, but also up north.

00:59:23.120 And then secondly, we've got to get this nonsense, this old, acronyms, this 1945 structure has to change.

00:59:30.740 The Coast Guard should not be independent of the Navy.

00:59:33.120 It should be an arm of the Navy and the Navy and the Coast Guard should both be involved in protecting our waters.

00:59:38.560 And the Marine Corps needs to be protecting our ports and harbors, just as we should also protect our airports.

00:59:45.540 All of these things have to be done if we don't do them and we continue to focus overseas on other people's problems that are not our problems.

00:59:54.780 You and I won't have much to discuss because we won't be around in four years.

00:59:59.880 You brought up an excellent point, and it's one that we haven't heard yet or seen yet.

01:00:04.920 Our own military patrolling our own country.

01:00:09.120 You know, you hear these politicians, Colonel, we'll wrap up with this, saying it's a bad look for our military to be here at home.

01:00:15.960 It's a bad look for our military to have a presence here on our southern border.

01:00:19.800 Or it's bad optics.

01:00:22.460 Well, what are the optics of sending someone else's son overseas that nobody voted for to fight a war that has nothing to do with us?

01:00:30.100 What are the optics of that?

01:00:32.120 What are the optics of protecting your kids from going to school and having a drug dealer sell them fentanyl that they got from a Mexican or a Venezuelan drug lord?

01:00:42.140 What are the optics of burying a 14-year-old kid who was overdosed on drugs?

01:00:46.440 What are the optics of walking down 42nd Street in New York City and watching a man shoot up heroin on the side of the street as you walk by with your family?

01:00:53.780 Does anybody think of those optics, Colonel?

01:00:56.300 No, they don't in Washington.

01:00:58.460 They live in a bubble.

01:01:00.060 What's not in their face doesn't matter.

01:01:04.480 And their constituents, if they don't pay attention to their constituents, it's because donors ultimately outweigh the interests of constituents.

01:01:12.700 We had all the Army's cavalry regiments on our borders from 1846 till 1948.

01:01:20.800 All the so-called great men of the Second World War and the regular Army, generals, all served on the Mexican border.

01:01:28.200 In the 1930s, the number one expectation was that we would be at war with Mexico at some point in the future.

01:01:35.100 And that's where we were focused.

01:01:37.840 It's hard for people to understand that right now.

01:01:39.960 But they also forget that during World War I, Germans showed up in Mexico.

01:01:45.160 And after World War I, communists did.

01:01:48.620 And the Soviet Union maintained its largest intelligence operation in the world outside of the Soviet Union in Mexico.

01:01:56.060 Right.

01:01:56.160 Right now, we have similar outposts in Mexico.

01:01:59.860 And the international intrigue from intelligence organizations like Chinese and so forth, they are inextricably intertwined with the drug cartels.

01:02:10.480 Now, the solution is not to start a war with China or Russia.

01:02:15.220 The solution is close that border.

01:02:17.300 And then you're going to have to fight a war inside our country, because if you think the drug cartels are going to take this lying down and lose all the income they get from this, you're wrong.

01:02:28.180 We'll have to fight a war inside our country. 0.96

01:02:30.800 And when that is underway, that's when you begin to look at where the sources are down south.

01:02:36.840 But you do not, do not, and listen to this, you do not want to invade Mexico and try to transform it into something it's not.

01:02:44.640 But you have to destroy the disease without killing the patient.

01:02:49.680 You were talking earlier, everywhere we go, we end up killing the patient.

01:02:55.160 We don't want to do that.

01:02:56.580 Yeah.

01:02:56.860 What was the last time, you know, this is something that Lou, and I promise this will be the last thing we touch on here.

01:03:01.880 This is something Lou always asked.

01:03:03.140 When was the last time the U.S. won a war, Colonel?

01:03:04.840 Well, I guess you'd have to say, if I stop and think about it, I think we won.

01:03:12.980 We did not exploit it effectively, but I think we won in 1991.

01:03:18.340 Before that?

01:03:20.460 Grenada.

01:03:21.460 Okay.

01:03:22.440 The point is, it's been a very long time.

01:03:24.980 We should be fighting a war, and I'm very anti-war.

01:03:27.800 I can't stand it.

01:03:28.600 But this is an easy war for us to fight, Colonel.

01:03:30.920 You said they're not going to take a laying down, but it'll be far easier, in my opinion, to fight these cartels than it is to ship everything overseas like we do and fight a war that's never going to end.

01:03:40.400 I think this is a war that we can get done in less than four years.

01:03:43.300 I think it's a war we can get done in less than two years.

01:03:45.640 It's one that needs to be fought.

01:03:46.940 I know far too many people who have overdosed on drugs and are dead now that I went to school with.

01:03:51.480 Being in New York, it's a common thing for kids these days.

01:03:54.120 I'm fortunate that I never picked up a drug in my life that, you know, I've got to that point.

01:03:58.220 But I do know people and I know families who have been ruined.

01:04:00.820 So it really hits me here hard at home, and it hits me hard when I walk down the street and watch people do this stuff.

01:04:05.940 Well, I agree with you, but just keep in mind, the donors who own the Senate and the House don't care about it.

01:04:12.540 I think President Trump is not one that's easily bought.

01:04:15.580 So they're either going to have to get in line, Colonel, or they're going to have to get the hell out.

01:04:20.300 And 2026 is going to be a test.

01:04:22.140 We have two years now, from now to the Senate elections, where we're going to find out which one of these guys want to play ball and which one of these guys want to get their bills paid by these military industrial complex companies and these big donors.

01:04:35.780 So we have two years, I think, to figure it out.

01:04:38.320 And folks like Elon Musk is spending a lot of money to figure out who these guys are good and which ones are good and which are bad.

01:04:45.900 Colonel Doug McGregor is the CEO of Our Country, Our Choice.

01:04:49.360 You're a great American.

01:04:49.960 Thanks for joining us today.

01:04:50.900 I really appreciate it.

01:04:51.680 And I had a great conversation, in my opinion.

01:04:54.980 Thank you.

01:04:55.960 Talk to you soon.

01:04:57.160 Thanks, everybody, for being with us here today on The Great America Show.

01:05:00.100 Please be sure to join us back here tomorrow for The Great America Show.

01:05:03.020 As our quest for truth, justice, and the American way continues, we'll see you back here tomorrow, same time, same place.

01:05:10.420 Until then, may God bless you.

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01:05:13.560 And may God bless the great Blue Dogs.

01:05:19.960 Thank you.

01:05:20.680 Thank you.

01:05:20.960 Bye.

The Great America Show - December 18, 2024

THE WORLD IS BETTER OFF WHEN THE U.S. IS NOT THE WORLD'S POLICE

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