Russ Tice is a former senior intelligence analyst with the National Security Agency. He has an immense amount of experience, a remarkable American. He is also a whistleblower, one of the very first to talk publicly about the NSA spying on American citizens. About 20 years ago, he first blew the whistle on that. And we ve seen all that s happened to date. And it is a frightening picture indeed.
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00:00:33.760Hi, everybody, and welcome to The Great America Show.
00:00:36.480Today, we're going to be talking about, well, the deep state, the intel community, and what are perceived threats really against all Americans by that weaponized intelligence community.
00:00:48.020As well as the deep state, specifically the Department of Justice, the FBI, the surveillance state.
00:00:55.660We're going to be talking with Russ Tice.
00:00:57.880Russ is a former senior intelligence analyst with the National Security Agency.
00:01:03.320He has an immense amount of experience, a remarkable American.
00:01:07.260He is also a whistleblower, one of the very first to talk about publicly the National Security Agency and other intel agencies spying on American citizens.
00:01:19.620About 20 years ago, he first blew the whistle on that, and we've seen all that's happened to date.
00:01:25.660And it is a frightening picture, indeed, that we're contemplating, particularly with the reauthorization coming next week for Section 702, the FISA law that will permit further spying, further surveillance by the deep state on American citizens.
00:01:42.020There doesn't seem to be an appetite to fight it in Congress in either party.
00:01:46.660The Republicans, I'm disappointed to say, I don't think are going to mount a challenge to that reauthorization or any attempt at reforming it.
00:01:55.960We're also going to be talking about Congressman Mike Gallagher.
00:01:59.660He is the former chairman of the Select Committee on the CCP.
00:02:03.480He just resigned his job as congressman and is waiting to get past the deadline to prevent a special election in Wisconsin for his district, thereby probably cutting the Republican majority down to a one vote margin.
00:02:25.280But surely for spite and surely out of just pure hate for the party that he was supposed to be a member of.
00:02:31.640And also, by the way, for the district that he was representing.
00:02:36.040The man is completely disgusting, appalling, and not behaving in any way that makes any sense whatsoever, except for the mere fact that he is a cretin and a creep.
00:03:03.280We're also going to take up the AI intel that emanates from the National Security Agency, DARPA, and which has been applied now across so many of the systems that many people don't even or aren't even aware of how significant the U.S. lead is in artificial intelligence.
00:03:22.360But we're going to be taking all of that up with Russ Tice.
00:03:34.400We're going to have the reauthorization next week, as you know, of Section 702, the FISA legislation.
00:03:42.880Speaker Mike Johnson has already given the FBI, despite its weaponization against the American people, a $200 million new building that will be bigger than the Pentagon.
00:03:54.440Do you think there's any more we could do for the intelligence agencies that are aligned against the American people?
00:04:00.800Well, I mean, maybe we could just add in some, you know, taxpayer vacations or something for them for such good work for making sure that we're all being surveilled so well.
00:04:15.540Well, it's really where we are, isn't it?
00:04:17.920And we're looking at now a number of alliances, the NSA combining with the so-called Cyber Command to make sure that the elections are all going as they should, whatever that will happen to mean in this particular election.
00:04:38.080Congress, as I said, renewing Section 702, the FISA authorization.
00:04:47.220Should it be reauthorized and what would be, what would we lose in the way of national security?
00:04:53.980What would there be, a diminishment of national security if we were to strip FISA from the law?
00:05:03.700Well, my answer would be, I don't think so.
00:05:06.000As long as you could make sure under the regular system that we have a warrant and make sure that warrant is not known to the person that you're going to search for a period of time.
00:05:17.220I don't see why we can't use our constitutional means for the judiciary to put forth a warrant.
00:05:25.180One, you have under the Fourth Amendment probable cause to look at someone and the suspicion that they're committing espionage with a foreign nation.
00:05:36.500Right now, it's being used primarily for political purposes.
00:05:41.500The surveillance, whether it's the NSA, the FBI, the CIA, all of it is being conducted against the American people.
00:05:51.680The principal outcome here over the past, well, since 2015, has been the surveillance by the intelligence community of the Trump campaign, the Trump presidency, post-Trump presidency.
00:06:26.340Well, not only that, there's a thing called parallel construction.
00:06:32.200What's happening is if they want to come after Lou Dobbs for whatever reason, just like the bearer said, give me the man and I'll give you a reason to call him a traitor,
00:06:42.460that they'll go back into your communications and try to find something that you've done in the past 15 years and then they'll give that to the FBI and then they go back and then they try to find some other means to prove that other than the fact that they illegally and unconstitutionally dug into your communications over so many years and then throw something at you in that manner.
00:07:09.600Of course, that will never come up in a court of law.
00:07:12.460Yeah, and since you put me at the center of that scenario, thank you very much, Russ.
00:07:18.820You know, the fact of the matter is I'm kind of an ornery cuss.
00:07:22.400There's not much I've said that I don't stand 100% behind.
00:07:27.040Now, I may have used some language that I would like to, you know, as my wife says, I shouldn't call names and I sometimes use language that is a little rough.
00:07:36.240But the truth of the matter is I say exactly what I mean and I mean what I say.
00:07:41.020And I have never gotten out of that habit.
00:07:44.320So I'm in real trouble, Russ, because I'm actually saying exactly what I think.
00:08:34.400And I'm talking about, first and foremost, our elected officials who seem to be quivering in their, you know, their wingtip shoes or whatever they're wearing, rather than really serving the American people.
00:08:49.500Well, I can't tell you how disgusting this is to me to watch what the Republican Party has become, to see what these Marxist Dems are doing, and with them, the deep state.
00:09:01.360They're serving so many masters in the Democrat Party.
00:09:07.380It's hard to figure out exactly who, you know, what the pecking order is, isn't it?
00:09:11.280Well, hey, once again, we're starting to see, especially this congressman up here in, what, Wisconsin, Galloway, I think is his name?
00:09:24.220Why on earth would he be doing what he's doing right now?
00:09:26.860This is the classic scenario where I think someone has dirt on him, and they want to make sure that the Republicans no longer have that majority because Congressman Jordan and a couple of the other chairmen are digging to the point where they're about to get the goods on President Biden, especially when it comes to these phony ID, I mean, the email addresses, you know.
00:09:57.480So I think once we find, and of course, what archives is balking, you know, every which way they can to make sure they don't give that up.
00:10:05.820I think once we find those out, we will, I mean, not only will we have a smoking gun on the president, we'll have a smoking halitzer on the president.
00:10:16.100And I think they're getting so close that they have to start using some strong-arm tactics or tactics.
00:10:21.640So with this congressman, I have a feeling they have dirt on him, and I think they're also offering him some carrot where he's going to get out making millions of dollars for, you know, some kind of consultancy or something of that nature.
00:10:35.680Yeah, he is a weasel, and he is a highly objectionable human being.
00:10:41.320And we're going to take up Mike Gallagher with Russ Tice, former senior intelligence analyst for the NSA.
00:10:48.720We're coming right back right after these quick words.
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00:12:46.880Here he was, the chairman of the CCP select committee, responsible for watching, carrying out policy against the country's number one enemy.
00:12:59.240That is the People's Republic of China, the CCP.
00:13:25.420Like I said, there has to be an influence that's causing this to happen.
00:13:30.960Otherwise, why wouldn't he just, if he had to get out for some sort of medical or family reason, he could get out and allow an interim election to put someone in his spot so that we're not, you know, just down to a one person limit on a majority for the House.
00:13:49.740So either he's just got to, I don't know whether it's because of the replacing the former speaker or something, but he's either got to burn his bonnet or something else is influencing what he's doing right now.
00:14:08.500I think, yes, he's being blackmailed and he's also being offered a carrot at the other end of that to, you know, yeah, but ultimately blackmail is, I think, what's happening here.
00:14:18.860You know, isn't it interesting, too, that he is a former defense intelligence officer in the Marine Corps, as it turns out, and he's aligned with the intelligence community again.
00:14:36.380He's, you know, he's a little boy, a little boy Brennan running around, you know, trying to play with the big boys.
00:14:43.180And it's really awful to watch it unfold because the intelligence community is really running the government right now, isn't it?
00:14:57.200It's ultimately the lifeblood of the deep state.
00:15:00.520And what they say goes, and if they have an agenda, they're going to push it.
00:15:04.100Now, I don't know this fellow from my own, you know, I knew a lot of guys that were intel for the Marine Corps, but I have a feeling I'm a bit more senior than he is.
00:15:17.280I may not have known him back in the day.
00:15:20.560He was the captain in the Marine Corps, and Marine Corps intelligence.
00:15:25.680Well, intelligence has many different phases.
00:15:30.400You know, there's signals intelligence, which was my main thing, was satellites.
00:15:34.760And there's also just the ground guys that are, you know, basically soaking up intelligence so that their troops know, you know, what to look out for.
00:15:42.760Like reports that we would send them and say, hey, you know, you got something coming up on you, that sort of thing.
00:15:47.860So I don't know exactly what he was doing.
00:15:49.420But the fact that he was intel means he's in the community, and he may know some of the right people like Brennan and Hayden and Alexander and some of the other nefarious folks that were on the 51 letter list.
00:16:06.340The intelligence agencies are a cult unto themselves.
00:16:11.320The military intelligence people, and again, Gallagher, the CIA has a hand in every one of these cover-ups.
00:16:18.000They are, as we've learned watching Bill Barr, who spent seven years in the CIA, he was the stopper, the closer on everything that could be considered an embarrassment or a problem for the intelligence community.
00:16:33.480He did that for seven years before he went to work for the H.W. Bush in the White House to be his stopper and on his career went.
00:16:44.140But we're watching right now an intelligence community that's aligned against one political party, and that is the Republican Party.
00:16:53.000And they mean to stop this and to pursue whatever aims the Marxist Dems come up with, whether it's transgenderism, whether it is destroying the American family, whether it's destroying public education in this country,
00:17:07.820whether it's destroying meritocracy and asserting diversity for crying out loud, diversity is our strength they keep propagandizing.
00:17:17.140Our strength is our intelligence, our talent, our character, and our capacity as citizens of this country.
00:17:25.380And we've got people running propaganda at us, you know, 24 hours a day, whether it's from the CIA itself, whether it's from whatever agency or part of the military-industrial complex.
00:17:45.400Even back when I know of one case where the whole floor of DIA didn't have a female on it, so they promoted someone to a 14 who met none of the qualifications for the job.
00:17:59.980And, matter of fact, she was an accountant, and she got the job, I think, because they wanted a female on the floor that was at the 14 level, a GS-14, which is a government salary level.
00:18:13.740But, you know, so, you know, we had – and she was a very nice person, and I'm sure she was a very good accountant, you know,
00:18:23.900but now she's got to make technical intelligence decisions, and she's an accountant.
00:18:31.180I mean, did they actually let her make decisions on intel?
00:18:34.760Her position would actually require that she would make certain – she would have to review certain documents and have to sign off on them to say,
00:18:45.060okay, this is – we can go ahead with this or we don't.
00:18:48.560And she was not even close to being qualified.
00:18:50.960Well, it's a very nice person, but not even close to being qualified.
00:18:56.000So, even back then, I'm sure it's a whole lot different now.
00:18:58.880Now we've got to have all different rainbow colors and all different kinds of, you know, people, I don't know,
00:19:05.360with tutus sitting there, you know, dancing around while they're reviewing their intel documents or something.
00:19:27.880Matter of fact, especially once you move – you almost have to prove yourself as an intelligence analyst.
00:19:32.600If you get everything wrong as a junior analyst, they kind of move you, you know, move your way into something else.
00:19:38.580So, brain power actually does matter still in the intelligence community.
00:19:43.800Well, it certainly used to, and there's all kinds of courses you take.
00:19:48.680You take courses on analytical thinking, on all different types of thought trains, on how you'd take intelligence, and you'd rule something out.
00:19:59.500And basically, you learn how to think as well as an intelligence analyst.
00:20:05.260The smarter you are, the better you did.
00:20:17.500You only have, like, 10% of the pieces of the puzzle, and then – or maybe 12% of what you think is a puzzle.
00:20:24.5402% have been pieces thrown in there to throw you off the trail.
00:20:28.660And with that, you have to put it together and try to figure out what's going on.
00:20:33.560So, it would be really interesting to go into the intelligence agencies and just see how much of their hiring is based on diversity, equity, and inclusion rather than intelligence and capacity and talent.
00:20:48.000So, I'm hoping – I'm hoping that, at least in that area, we had some holdouts from the nonsense that diversity is our strength.
00:21:40.260We're talking with Russ Tice now, and the NSA is warning that our enemies are free to mine private data all of the time and that they have now an artificial intelligence edge.
00:21:54.780Now, what's interesting about that story from NSA is I was just reading article after article here over the last few weeks about how the United States in generative AI has a significant lead over, for example, the Chinese, and there's no other principal competitor outside of Russia.
00:22:18.740It sounds to me like they're selling propaganda.
00:22:24.020Interesting thing about NSA and some of the other intelligence services is we've been doing this sort of thing for well over 30 years, and a lot of it has come from DARPA to NSA or a combination there of NSA and DARPA to bring these technologies to bear in the intelligence community.
00:22:43.860And later on, they follow into the –
00:22:51.120Then later on, they follow into – when there's a commercial way to make money from these systems, then ultimately that's what happens.
00:23:01.900The same thing with voice recognition.
00:23:04.300You know, the little thing you can buy, you can go to most any country.
00:23:08.040As a matter of fact, I'll be in Italy in a couple of months, and you get this little thing, and you talk into it, and it converts my English into Italian, and I can say, hey, you know, where's the Colosseum?
00:23:19.680That technology came from the intelligence community.
00:23:22.940And that technology has been in Silicon Valley for 40 years.
00:23:33.680And amongst the leaders at one point was even Apple was one of the leaders in voice recognition.
00:23:41.640It's extraordinary how important DARPA is.
00:23:44.680We were mentioning the defense intelligence area, a data mining and collection system that was put together called AbleDanger that was running, you know, what, 30, 40 years ago.
00:24:01.460And who knows where we stand in the global competition, but you can bet that DARPA – I think it's a safe bet.
00:24:10.460I'd like to get your opinion – is well ahead of anywhere that most people suspect right now.
00:24:16.880We always underestimate our own capabilities and tend to overestimate a potential enemy's capabilities.
00:24:23.700We used to have these reports from the Soviet Union about all their advanced weaponry that they had.
00:24:30.940If you know anything about the MiG-25 Foxbat, that was supposed to be the super fighter that could do anything.
00:24:36.840And we found out it was basically just an interceptor that could just get up to altitude, shoot a missile, and have to come right back down before it ran out of fuel.
00:24:45.860And it was made out of steel, of all things.
00:24:55.340Yeah, so – and then, of course, you know, that was the big thing to make sure that the intelligence community was getting heaps of money to build a new weapon system to counter that.
00:25:08.880We're going into FISA reauthorization.
00:25:11.680We know that we're going to see NSA working with, you know, with the Cyber Command on, of all things, truth, justice, and the American way and to assure the integrity of our electoral system.
00:25:26.600I'm scared to death, in other words, of what's going on here because they're keeping it a secret from oversight committees.
00:25:32.520They're not explaining what they're doing precisely or even remotely.
00:25:40.220My gosh, you know, not only are all these threats going on, and we've got hypersonic missiles, of course, which we're told that the Chinese and the Russians – and, by the way, I have no reason not to believe these claims that both Russia and China have leads in hypersonic missiles, despite the fact that, by the way, speaking of DARPA, going back to 2000, we had the world's only hypersonic missile program and just dropped it because we didn't think it would be necessary.
00:26:09.400But now the NSA is talking about a black swan event in quantum computing.
00:26:20.160I don't know a whole lot about quantum computing.
00:26:22.740I know that it supposedly can run an ungodly amount of data in a millisecond.
00:26:29.400And I think there – it leads – the computers need nitrogen just to cool their circuits down.
00:26:35.940But for NSA to be saying they're afraid of a black swan event – now, this is – it's an interesting concept, black swan events, which are unpredictable, unforeseen, and simply beyond comprehension events that could have happened or could not happen.
00:26:54.120And no one knows even the shape, the dimension of the event itself.
00:26:59.620And yet here they are predicting it, which leaves you kind of scratching your head.
00:27:07.600Well, I mean, you can use computers to analyze operational systems to look for weaknesses.
00:27:15.240Perhaps that's what they're talking about here.
00:27:19.180To be honest, I'd be more worried about the Chinese that are coming across the border that are probably saboteurs and spies, aside from all the other nefarious types that are coming across our southern border.
00:27:31.820And how many of those are also involved in cyber attacks as well?
00:27:39.000But I'm not quite sure what NSA is talking about when they're talking about this.
00:27:43.660But, you know, computing is something you need for analysis of systems.
00:27:49.900Now, I know I was involved in some programs.
00:27:53.160You mentioned, you know, making sure that Congress has the ability to look into these things.
00:27:58.180That some of these, the SAP programs I was in, we had three of them that I was in.
00:28:04.520They were called ghost programs, but no one in Congress, no one even knew about them, that they existed.
00:28:47.800But we have an estimated as high as 15, almost 15 million illegal immigrants brought into this country, illegal aliens brought into this country just since Joe Biden took office.
00:29:00.320And no one knows where they are, what they're doing, but we know we're spending a lot of taxpayer money on them.
00:29:05.720And it looks like for only one reason, and that's to make sure that those voter voting rolls in this year's election are going to have a lot of new names on them.
00:29:18.140Give us a wrap-up thought here on where we stand today in terms of the intel community and the country's future.
00:29:27.620Well, it looks to me like the intelligence community has been totally compromised, and now it's a political leverage point.
00:29:37.700I'm not sure when the inflection point happened here, but everything now apparently – well, a lot of it's the existence because I think they fear there's a guy coming into the White House that's going to turn things upside down.
00:29:52.240And this is an existential threat that they're looking at.
00:29:58.100So they're going to call out all the – pull all the stops, and it's going to be, I think, pretty ugly in the next, what, seven, eight months here before November.
00:30:11.900Yeah, that may be when the real mess starts.
00:30:13.700Yeah, because the intel community is no longer what it used to be, where it was basically designed to just tell the policymakers what's going on, and then they're done.
00:30:26.680Now the intel community is running the show.