Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton joins the Great America Show host Lou Dobbs to discuss the ongoing election recount in Arizona and Nevada, and the ongoing investigation by Senators Johnson and Grassley of the Judiciary Committee into the Joe Biden campaign.
00:00:00.000Hello everybody, I'm Lou Dobbs and welcome to the Great America Show, Truth, Justice, and the American Way.
00:00:07.720Always under assault, always ultimately prevailing, and we're in a test.
00:00:13.020Never in peacetime have the threats been more dangerous to this republic of ours than right now.
00:00:19.460As I speak with you, the Marxist Dems are still counting votes out there in Nevada and Arizona,
00:00:24.900and Republicans in both states are wringing their hands and gnashing their teeth while ever so pleasantly urging,
00:00:32.440even begging really, for the vote tabulation to be sped up.
00:00:36.440But why do they think the vote count is being slow-rolled to begin with?
00:00:41.200Once again, it looks as though, at least to me, like the Republican Party is being played for the political chumps that they customarily play.
00:00:49.660It took days of delays after the election in good old Maricopa County for Senator Mark Kelly to,
00:00:57.220well, at least appear to prevail against his Republican challenger, Blake Masters.
00:01:02.460It was never a likely proposition for Masters, but it now looks assured that Kelly has won re-election.
00:01:09.880But what about GOP gubernatorial candidate Carrie Lake?
00:01:13.200Up in all of the polls going into Election Day, now after days of delays, inexplicable and brazen delays,
00:01:22.220all presided over, by the way, by Lake's opponent, Secretary of State Katie Hobbs,
00:01:27.700who quite smartly, but not so ethically, never gave up her office and authority over the election that she was running in,
00:01:36.860just because it was a monumental conflict of interest.
00:01:40.140But that's the Arizona way, apparently.
00:01:43.200And here we are on a beautiful Saturday in America with the governorship in Arizona uncertain
00:01:48.340and the final tally just as uncertain in Nevada,
00:01:52.220where former Attorney General Republican Adam Laxalt, at last report, was up by a whole percent,
00:01:59.060a margin that dwindles, it seems, with each vote drop and each passing day.
00:02:04.180He's also caught up in a slow roll count of voting.
00:02:07.320And again, no explanation from the election so-called authorities and huge questions and suspicions that multiply by the day.
00:02:17.460So at this point, it appears likely the Republicans will take control of the House of Representatives.
00:02:23.500By a considerably smaller margin than was expected.
00:04:28.040And, you know, we've gotten more out of Johnson and Grassley on corruption related to Hunter and Joe Biden than out of the Justice Department, that's for sure.
00:04:41.600And over four years now of investigation by the U.S. attorney in Delaware, I've never seen a more careful investigation, have you?
00:04:53.060I mean, I really think they need to fire some people.
00:04:56.180If it takes four years to investigate an issue like tax evasion, which that narrowly was the issue, these people at the Department of Justice are no longer just corrupt and crooked.
00:05:12.860I don't understand how anything ever happens, and perhaps nothing is happening in this country in the prosecution of crime.
00:05:21.160I really, I just, I am stunned that the national media, the Republican Party, the American people sit there and say, oh, yes, it's that slow as molasses Department of Justice where truth goes to die.
00:05:34.980Don't bother them, don't wake them, because all they do is evil when they're engaged.
00:05:43.620Well, if the slowness is the result of bureaucratic incompetence, that's one thing.
00:05:47.520And always, you can't eliminate that when you're talking about the government.
00:05:51.760But we have evidence the slowness is because of obstruction of justice.
00:05:55.320You had information coming out of whistleblowers that talked to both Grassley and Johnson that they buried the Hunter laptop just before the election.
00:06:06.300They've had the laptop since at least 2019.
00:06:09.480They've been investigating Hunter for four years, as you've suggested.
00:06:13.920So the fact that nothing's been done to date suggests that it's a political process now that they're obstructing the fair administration of justice.
00:06:27.980Anyone else would have been prosecuted.
00:06:30.520You know, unlike, you know, some of our friends on the left, I don't believe Hunter or Joe or his brother should be prosecuted because they're powerful.
00:06:39.960Simply because they're powerful and should be punished, that's the way the left treats Trump.
00:06:47.120I think there's this strong evidence of crimes.
00:06:50.480You know, I'm no fan of Kamala Harris.
00:06:53.780You know, I'm not aware that she's done anything personally corrupt.
00:06:58.100So I don't talk about corruption in Kamala Harris.
00:07:01.740I'm not a fan of a lot of Democrats and a lot of liberals.
00:07:05.180But if there's no corruption issue, then it's just politics, right?
00:07:09.100But Joe and company, we've got the significant corruption issues that are being covered up by the Justice Department and the FBI.
00:07:18.080Well, you know, I have to say this just to have a little fun.
00:07:23.700If the president of the United States is as corrupt as Biden has been demonstrated to be, along with his son, his brother, I mean, this is a matter of evidence.
00:08:05.320I mean, even as I said, well, I don't know anything about Kamala.
00:08:08.000I'm like, well, maybe there's something I should know about.
00:08:10.560But, you know, I mean, who we know this about, you know, whether it's a chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Milley, whether it is Pete Buttigieg in transportation.
00:08:27.040I mean, we have people in all sorts of places in this administration who have no clue what they're doing.
00:08:35.040They don't even know what they're talking about.
00:08:36.660And they don't even try to pretend they know what they're talking about, let alone actually do something constructive.
00:08:42.440Yeah, you know, that's the failure of big government in dramatic ways.
00:08:49.360And, you know, when you're talking about the Biden corruption, you know, my view is it has serious national security ramifications.
00:08:58.860Biden and his family have been compromised by Russia and China money.
00:09:11.960And, you know, and given the 10 percent big, you know, for the big guy business approach they have, you know, the president's implicated as well.
00:09:21.300You know, I jokingly say that Joe Biden is the most corrupt president since he was vice president.
00:09:35.640The Judiciary Committee sending over all of that stuff to to the Justice Department and the Senate Judiciary Committee should be taken rather seriously.
00:09:46.540But it's going to they're just swatting it away, even though they're saying that they've got bank records related to the president of the United States,
00:09:55.360United States, his family with connections to to the CCP, for crying out loud, the PLA and the Chinese intelligence agencies.
00:10:05.260This would be a this should be a front page story right now on every newspaper in the country.
00:10:13.540And instead, it's, you know, how much are the Democrats ahead in the state of New York?
00:10:41.540It's a radical Marxist damn in the White House with all of his friends.
00:10:46.640There's it's like the entire country has been desensitized to right and wrong, good and evil, proper and outrageous.
00:10:58.180What what's your what's your thinking on that?
00:11:02.640I think the media is compromised and they're part of the corruption in the sense, you know, Joe Biden's been in Washington for 50 years.
00:11:11.820He didn't just, you know, start doing bad things in 2018, two years after he left the presidency or the vice presidency were.
00:11:23.680And, you know, so his reputation is well known in the press corps and they protected him.
00:11:31.240And not only that, they've actively gone after people who've tried to hold him accountable.
00:11:37.000I mean, we're supposed to throw into the memory hole that they tried to remove Trump from office for blowing the whistle on Biden corruption in Ukraine and Russia.
00:11:46.640And also, you're supposed to forget that there were, after all, a couple of years of investigation by the FBI pertaining to the special counsel investigation, a year of investigation before that, that they framed his his presumptive national security advisor.
00:12:10.600That is, that is, General Michael Flynn.
00:12:13.040They did so and it began in July of 2016.
00:12:17.920They thought they could shut down his candidacy in the final months of that election.
00:12:22.520Then they went to from the from there to the special counsel, then two impeachments.
00:12:27.540And the list keeps I mean, the hits keep coming.
00:12:29.900And the fact this president is standing is a it's a monument to the fact that he is a the toughest, strongest leader we've had in this country in memory.
00:12:42.540And and and and now the the Trump's derangement syndrome is exponentially larger and more intense amongst Democrats in this country.
00:12:54.500It doesn't end here and it's not going to end well for the Democratic Party, because now they have a mass, such a trail of both evidence and transgressions that it's it's just revulsive that it's disgusting what they have done.
00:13:14.320And they're going to have to live with this in history.
00:13:16.520Well, and the question is, is there going to be accountability?
00:13:20.340And, you know, the concern is that, you know, the Justice Department and the FBI.
00:13:25.540You know, we they should do their job, but we can't rely on them to do their job.
00:13:29.460They can't be trusted to do their job.
00:16:58.440Durham, I'm sure, after his failures, will have some report that will highlight what needs to be done.
00:17:04.400We know a lot of what's been, you know, Hunter Biden's laptop is out there.
00:17:08.420There's plenty of witnesses that will come and testify already.
00:17:11.580So if I'm the Republicans or if I'm running the House, I would be doing a comprehensive impeachment of Biden, of Meyer Orkus, of Garland, anyone else who's been involved in this misconduct.
00:17:28.440You know, for instance, those officials who were authorizing the spending of a half a trillion dollars without congressional authorization.
00:17:35.600And when you're, you know, just take the impeachment approach, and there should be just a comprehensive investigation there, not with the goal of, quote, getting information.
00:17:45.960No, with the goal of holding those responsible for government misconduct and abuse of office accountable.
00:17:53.640And I don't know what's going to happen in the Senate, but I could think of worse things for the House to do than to give voice to the American people who don't, who are tired of folks getting away with it.
00:18:05.600And the Justice Department, you know, if they're obstructing justice, impeach the responsible officials there.
00:18:15.080You know, what else is there to do other than to take those steps?
00:18:19.000See, now I think we're thinking out loud and in the right direction.
00:18:25.160Because each of the, everything that you've described, the other parties tried, and they've tried to do it against the innocent, i.e., particularly Donald Trump.
00:18:35.600And what we end up with are these public spectacles made for television, episodic, you know, political theatrics that may amuse and even divert attention as someone wishes.
00:18:49.260But the reality is we know what is in front of us, and we can't do anything until we have prosecutors who can respond to the evidence before them and do so in a timely and energetic manner.
00:19:07.040I don't give a damn about the bureaucracy anymore.
00:19:09.100Either the Republican Party comes up with a solution to sclerotic bureaucracy and corrupt decision makers throughout the deep state, or they're useless.
00:19:30.120We've got to show the American people that their government still works.
00:19:33.360And we know at the end of those trails, the odds are decidedly against them to actually change this government that is so rife with corruption.
00:21:42.600I mean, if it's suddenly we've hit the 21st century and we're so sophisticated, so assured and worldly that we just accept this bull's BS,
00:21:56.960you know, we've got to expect more of ourselves, of this government, and demand it.
00:22:02.820And by the way, you and I both know, let's just talk straight.
00:22:06.600Kevin McCarthy, Mitch McConnell are going to preside over this great washing of the federal garments, stained beyond belief.
00:22:17.900It's just, it's just, to me, it's sickening to think that we're walking into another barrage, another Potemkin village in which political theatrics are at the center.
00:22:35.060And I think that's an important fact to keep in mind as, you know, presumably the House is going to go to the Republicans.
00:22:44.860You know, I guess it's possible it won't, but it's likely to happen.
00:22:49.820And so when they start doing things, we should be, you know, have clear eyes about what's going on.
00:22:55.260Are they just doing enough to keep what they consider to be the base happy, or are they doing something substantial?
00:23:01.600And you're right, the House leadership, generally speaking, isn't going to want to do this work in a substantial way.
00:23:10.660You know, the Senate, frankly, you know, we would have to have a radical change in the caucus of the Senate Republican side, certainly, for anything to happen.
00:23:44.420It's Mitch McConnell, who is compromised beyond belief.
00:23:48.060Here's a man spending more money on, he is donating more money to Democrats opposing Republican candidates for the Senate, in at least two instances, than many states are spending entirety, their entirety of campaign spending.
00:24:11.420They have a minority leader in the Senate trying to defeat Republicans.
00:24:16.460This is idiotic, particularly at a time when they have the thinnest imaginable margin.
00:24:24.320How much evidence of political corruption does one need than those statements of fact that I just made?
00:24:30.860Well, you know, while avoiding, as the head of a nonprofit, C3, commenting on campaign activities like that, it does demonstrate a certain amount of cynicism towards the Republican base, that's for sure, and to conservatives who they often ask for support from.
00:24:52.220I mean, don't you, I don't think I have heard of more eloquent diversion, aversion than that, and I appreciate it, and I understand your reasons for being careful, but particularly in this day and age.
00:25:08.920By the way, just breaking now, I'm pleased to tell you that the folks over at the Gateway Pundit, Jim Hoft, have just reported that PayPal has reinstated its policy to fine users $2,500 directly from their accounts if they spread, quote-unquote, misinformation.
00:25:32.160Now, they not only want to be the paragons and arbiters of what is truth, but they also want to use you as a revenue source for PayPal.
00:26:54.860The next thing, Chase Manhattan will be able to call your loans if, for some reason, you went to the wrong rally, supporting the wrong candidate.
00:27:54.340You know, that way lies the end of our republic, that type of behavior.
00:27:58.540Justice Alito, the other day, giving a speech at the Heritage Foundation, talked about the number of assassination threats against the conservative justices as a result of the leak from the Supreme Court to the media.
00:28:22.500But he didn't talk about the reason for those threats.
00:28:26.860The left is threatening the Supreme Court of the United States.
00:28:31.700They are trying to intimidate the judiciary in this country and the conservative justices of the Supreme Court.
00:28:41.780And I will say this, it is a horrible moment in which the Washington Post, for crying out loud, doesn't even take that story and give it the coverage it deserves and the issues, the coverage it deserves.
00:29:00.900They're nothing more than a partisan operation.
00:29:06.140It's sickening to watch what we're permitted to happen.
00:29:09.420It's as if half the country is on nondepressants and sedatives.
00:29:15.140I don't know what's happened to this country.
00:29:17.460There is no visible beating pulse in the Republican Party right now without Donald Trump leading it every day.
00:29:26.100Yeah, we're certainly lacking in leadership.
00:29:30.240I'm a little bit more optimistic about the number of people concerned who share our concerns, Lou.
00:29:36.180I mean, it's obviously not a majority, but it's a significant number that could, you know, change the direction of the country in a dramatic way.
00:29:43.080But the leadership for that group is lacking, that's for sure.
00:29:52.140You know, but in the meantime, those who rely on those types of voters, in my view, have an obligation.
00:29:56.960And, you know, and just generally speaking, as, you know, having taken oaths to protect the Constitution, you know, to protect the Supreme Court, to say to the president of the United States and the Justice Department, unless you start prosecuting people for harassing the Supreme Court justices as is required by law, there's not a dollar that's going to flow into the Justice Department.
00:30:20.440You know, there are, you know, we need people to address the crisis and defend the Republic using the tools available to them.
00:30:28.940And that's, you know, this isn't about Hunter Biden.
00:30:31.840This is about whether or not we're going to have a court or not.
00:30:34.640This is about whether or not the president, if you speak out against the president, you want to run against the president, or you've been as a political opponent, you can go to sleep at night without having to worry about the FBI banging down your door.
00:30:48.180These are dangerous times for our nation, Lou, and, you know, the number of people who understand that is way too small in this city.
00:30:59.600I could think of maybe four or five House members who understand this, and, you know, maybe two or three senators.
00:31:09.340Well, you look at the, and I think you're right, and I think you've put it exactly as it should be laid out, because this is a country now.
00:31:20.980Well, we are in the, and I would say the throes of lacking comprehension.
00:31:30.440We're in the throes of so much disinformation, so much blowback, so much noise coming from the left, and so little, so little emanating from the right,
00:31:44.740that it's very difficult for people to understand how serious this conflict is, because the ones who you would expect to be in opposition to these forces are silent in the days here as we advance toward the election.
00:32:03.320They're scared to death to mention anything, because their neighbors will react.
00:32:08.980They may be called domestic terrorists if they say they want to vote for Trump.
00:32:13.420We are in such a, it's a frightening moment in history, and I think a lot of people are, to that point, frightened.
00:32:21.200And the idea that anybody can scare Americans, frightened Americans, makes my blood boil.
00:32:29.860Well, you know, I, again, I can't tell anyone or won't tell anyone, I guess, whether to vote, who to vote for or against.
00:32:37.940But I will tell your listeners that they should make this issue, these issues we're talking about, a priority in their communications with their elected representatives and what they're telling candidates on the trail.
00:32:49.040I mean, if this issue is important to you and you're persuaded, you know, then what are you going to do about it, dear listener?
00:32:56.560Are you going to, are you going to, you know, just have one vote or are you going to make this a priority for you in terms of communicating with every elected official and being as active as you can, you know, under our precious First Amendment rights?
00:33:10.720You know, what good is the First Amendment if you don't want to exercise it, not only in terms of free speech, but you're, this is the, one of the wonderful aspects of the First Amendment that has never given enough attention.
00:33:23.140We have this God-given right to petition our government.
00:33:27.720And how few of us use it is just a scandal.
00:33:31.320And, and again, the Marxist left doing everything in their power to make certain that we don't use our freedom of speech.
00:33:41.640And that is at the very center of what is happening here.
00:33:46.000One of the reasons that there is so little response to the unmitigated, pervasive corruption, political corruption of our government.
00:33:53.980And, uh, Tom Fenton, as you know, we always give our guests the last word and, uh, your concluding thoughts here, if, uh, if we may.
00:34:04.380Well, you know, uh, I'm going to be positive.
00:34:06.840I mean, I think, uh, uh, with a little bit of, with a different leadership in, in Washington, D.C.
00:34:14.520And I just don't mean replacing Republicans with Democrats.
00:34:17.680I mean, focusing on the right type of leadership here in Washington, D.C.
00:34:21.540We, we can get a lot done, uh, certainly on the political side, uh, in terms of these, uh, issues that we're care, we care about.
00:34:29.060But I'm, I'm pleased to say in the meantime, Judicial Watch is going to continue to do the heavy lifting.
00:34:34.040And if Congress won't do it, the media won't do it.