TOM HOMAN： TIME TO SHUT IT DOWN？
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Joe Biden forgot he was President of the United States at a campaign event. The Biden 2020 campaign is in shambles and there is no basement in the White House for him to hide in this campaign year. If he were to go into the basement, he just might find himself near the press briefing room.
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Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs. Welcome to The Great America Show. Thanks for being with us.
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The Biden 2024 campaign is in shambles. Joe Biden is learning quickly. There's no basement in the
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White House for him to hide in this campaign year. If he were to go into the basement in the White
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House, he just might find himself somewhere near the press briefing room. And we all know he's being
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kept as far away from that room as possible. The puppet president in South Carolina over the weekend
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making a rare appearance at a campaign event. It was there that Biden forgot he was president of the
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United States. That's right. Biden thinking that President Trump was already president or still
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president. Hard to know which. But take a listen to Biden. Clearly lost and clearly confused.
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That American consumers are facing real confidence in their economy we're building.
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Let me tell you who else is noticing that. Donald Trump. Did you see what he recently said about
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that he wants to see the economy crash this year? A sitting president.
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Biden was referring to a conversation I had on Lou Dobbs with President Trump two months ago
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regarding the economy. Please listen to what President Trump really said with full context.
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We have an economy that's incredible. We have an economy that's so fragile. And the only reason
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it's running now is it's running off the fumes of what we did, what the Trump administration. It's just
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running off the fumes. And when there's a crash, I hope it's going to be during this next 12
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months. Because I don't want to be Herbert Hoover.
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Of course, President Trump was referring to the stock market crash of 1929, marking the start of
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the Great Depression. And the mainstream media, what did they do? They took that and misled the
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American people with a crooked headline. Be sure to catch us weeknights at 7 p.m. Eastern,
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6 central for Lou Dobbs tonight on Rumble.com. Lou Dobbs. Well, if you're tuned into the Great
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America show today from the country of Mexico, you should know the cartel run border is open.
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And if you want to come on up, Biden wants you to know you can just walk right on in as long as you
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pay the cartels off. At least that's what rhino sellout Senator James Lankford is telling all
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illegals waiting to enter the country. According to his proposed border bill, Lankford on Fox News
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Sunday tried to blame the Republicans who want to secure a border. At least that's what he tried to
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Hear it. Right now there's internet rumors is all that people are running on. It would be absolutely
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absurd for me to agree to 5,000 people a day. This bill focuses on getting us to zero illegal
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crossings a day. There's no amnesty. It increases the number of Border Patrol agents, increases asylum
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officers. It increases detention beds so we can quickly detain and then deport individuals. It
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ends catch and release. It focuses on additional deportation flights out. It changes our asylum
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process so that people get a fast asylum screening at a higher standard and then get returned back to
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their home country. This is not about letting 5,000 people in a day. This is the most misunderstood
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section of this proposal. And let me tell you briefly what it is. In the last four months,
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we've had seven days, in four months, we've had seven days that we had less than 5,000 people.
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This is set up for if you have a rush of people coming at the border, the border closes down,
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no one gets in. This is not someone standing at the border with a little clicker saying,
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I'm going to let one more in. We're at 4,999 and then it has to stop. It is a shutdown of the border
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and everyone actually gets turned around. That's the focus that we have right now is how do we
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actually intervene in this administration and turn people around, not let people in?
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What you heard there is a man lying through his teeth. First, he called it an internet rumor that
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he wanted to allow 5,000 illegals in a day, each and every day. But less than a minute later,
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admits that the rhino bill will indeed allow 5,000 plus illegals in each day. And then there's amnesty for
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all. Lankford, folks, is bad news, a creepy, phony rhino disgrace. It didn't take the Oklahoma
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Republican Party long to figure him out, just how bad their senator was. Over the weekend, the Oklahoma
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Republican State Committee introduced a resolution condemning and censuring Senator Lankford's
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open border deal. Talk about an embarrassing moment for the fraud Lankford. The resolution says
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Lankford has been playing fast and loose with the Democrats that his border bill would disenfranchise
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legal immigrants and put the safety and security of all Americans in great danger. And Greg Abbott
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and the great state of Texas making it clear to the Biden regime that they refuse to play games.
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They want their state's border secure. They're willing to go to war with Biden's regime to secure it.
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Biden heeded the governor's warning and has said they will not cut down the wiring along that
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southern border in Texas. Texas Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick says it's good the Biden regime chose
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to stand down because Texas has lots more wire ready to go.
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I thought, is Joe Biden really going to come down here and confront them? Well, the answer is no.
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And the answer is they've decided not to cut the wire. And as I said earlier today, that they can cut it
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all day long. They're going to have to bring a lot of wire cutters because we have a lot of wire.
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So we said no. And I'm glad that they don't want a confrontation. I'm glad they're standing down.
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It's it's good news. Texas stood tall. And real quick, Trace, to give you a sense of how it's
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working. And that's why it would have been foolish for them to come. Four months ago, about 3,000 people
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a day were coming over right where I was on Eagle Pass today, where the fence is. Today, when I left at
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three or four o'clock, no one had crossed. 3,000, no one.
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As you heard from Dan Patrick, the makeshift wire border wall is working. Just imagine the wonders
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an actual wall would do. Our guest today is a former director of Immigrations and Customs
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Enforcement under President Trump, Tom Holman. Tom, it's great to have you back with us on the
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Great America Show. Let's start right now where we are, this administration bringing in illegals by
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the millions and now wants amnesty for them to boot. Plus two million more every year after that.
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And they want a new piece of legislation to do it all. I mean, does anybody buy their bull?
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Well, it seems like a few people up in the hill are buying it, but Tom Holman's not going to buy it.
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I did it for 30 years. Look, the numbers right now between five and six thousand days. And what
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they're going to do, they're still going to get seven, eight, nine thousand days. They just increase
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those that bring to a port of entry that they don't count as an illegal entry, right? So the
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only deal out there that makes sense to me is HR2. Yeah, for the House bill. And I agree, but
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you know, that's not going to happen because it actually does something to secure the border.
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And the left is never going to go with that. And what I love is that James Langford, that senator
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from Oklahoma, he just got censured by the Republican Party of Oklahoma for being lower than a snake's belly.
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The guy is an ordained minister, I think, but he missed some theology lessons, I'm guaranteeing you.
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And he missed a lot of integrity lessons. He's out trying to sell amnesty to people. It's just
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the ignorance of Mitch McConnell and these guys in that Senate, but Langford trying to sell this to
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the House. Do you think Mike Johnson will buy this bull?
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He better not. He better not. Look, I said the other day, I did a show today, I said, Langford,
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who's he negotiating with? He said, don't talk to Alejandro Mayorkas. That's like negotiating with a
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terrorist about, you know, how to put out a fire. We can't be doing that. And we got this,
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why does he have it? What's his knowledge and experience with immigration-related
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legislation? I don't know if he's even the point guy. But Mike Johnson better not go for it,
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because I think the Freedom Caucus and most of the Republican Party in the House agrees with me
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that HR2 works. And it's not a matter of, will it work? We know it works, because most of it's Trump's
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policies. We've proven it's effective. So we shouldn't negotiate against ourselves.
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We should put HR2. And I tell you, I am so, I'm at the point now, shut it down. Shut it down.
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We can't get HR2. At what point is it enough to shut it down? When we got over 300 people at the
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terrorist watch this on the southern border, we got 112,000 dead American fentanyl. We got 1,700 dead
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migrants in U.S. soil. We got a 600% increase in child and female sex trafficking across the border.
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You couldn't be more right. And Mitch McConnell instead is talking about amnesty. He's pushing
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it. He pushed Langford out. Langford is such a tool. I cannot get over him being this stupid
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individually. I knew that he was a rhino, but a stupid rhino allowing himself to have this blazing
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across his forehead that he's a traitor to both the Republican Party and the country
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is outrageous what we're seeing. I don't know where this goes, but I do know this, that
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we're looking at two articles of impeachment revealed today for Mayorkas in the House.
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They're very serious about impeaching him, and it looks like it's going to happen just ahead
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of what will be the Biden impeachment. Mayorkas lying through his teeth day after day after day
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about a secure border and no one does anything. My assumption is, Tom, the man is, he and Biden
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both are getting a cut from the cartels because I don't see any other way to explain it. Do you?
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In 2014 and 2015, he was deputy secretary of Jay Johnson, and he knows we had a family surge
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back then. He knows how we stopped it. So now as a secretary, what is he doing? He's not
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toting him. He's not detaining. They're not seeing the judge, and ICE isn't even looking for him.
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He's not looking for him. He's doing the complete opposite of what he knows worked in 2014, 2015.
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What do you think? I tell everybody, in my judgment, the Biden administration would have
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to enforce the border security effectively, and then really turned over the border to the
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Mexican drug cartels. They are in control, in my opinion, on both sides of that border,
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I think I agree that the Mexican criminal cartels have operational control of our southern border.
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They decide what comes in, who comes in, where it comes in, and when it comes in.
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And that's just not my opinion based on three days. If you talk to most chief patrol agents who are
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brave enough to speak out, they'll try the same thing. Matter of fact, one chief patrol agent used
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a term with me, broken arrow. He says, Tom, I can't contain what's coming across. I may be catching
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10%. So yeah, the criminal cartels, they have operational control over our southern border,
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and this administration handed it to them. You know, no one celebrated this election when the cartels,
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because based on Joe Biden's promises during the campaign, they knew they were back in business.
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Yeah, it's just so ugly. And the gutless wonders that we have in both the Senate and the House,
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frankly. But those four border states, Greg Abbott stands up and absolutely tells the Biden
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administration to go to hell. He's going to pursue the Article 4 invasion clause. He's going to defend
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the state of Texas. I think the man is a hero of our times to do this. 25 states agree with him.
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10 are sending their National Guardsmen down to help him to help the state of Texas defend the
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100% behind Greg Abbott. He should be the Secretary of Homeland Security. He's done more security
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in this border than anybody in this administration. Every ounce of cocaine, I mean, every ounce of
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fentanyl or other drugs that trooper sees are less overdose deaths in the United States.
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Every illegal man they arrest and trespassing is one less gotaway. At least they're getting
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bent and we fingerprint and make sure they're not terrorists. I said, Greg Abbott has done more
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to secure this border than anybody. And now he's declared an invasion. He has taken action on the
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southern border. I stand behind him 100%. I tell him, go for it. Don't back down. I think he's doing
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the right thing for the safety and security of not only Texas, but for the United States.
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We're talking with Tom Holman, former director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
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We're going to continue the discussion about why is the Biden administration begging China
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to cut down the precursors and ingredients in fentanyl that they're shipping to the drug cartels
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in Mexico? We'll take that up with Tom Holman here next. Stay with us. We're coming right back.
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We're back now with Tom Holman and we're talking about border security, the Biden administration,
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and just rank corruption across the four border states on the border and in those states. Tom,
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I think it's interesting that Abbott gets all of this support from 25 states, but not any support
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from New Mexico, Arizona, or California, the other three border states with Texas. Did it surprise you
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at all? I said, yeah, I think Texas is going to be successful. These governors need to step up. I don't
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care. I don't care you're a Democrat. I don't care what party you're affiliated with. If you don't think
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this is the biggest national security vulnerability in this nation, then you're an idiot. You shouldn't
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be a governor. I don't care what party you're from. So they better get ready because it's getting
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worse. It's going to get worse. Yeah. You know, I have a strange feeling that Greg Abbott is going
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to kick Joe Biden's butt. I think Joe Biden and Alejandro Mayorkas overstepped when they retaliated to stop
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the LNG gas exports because Abbott was securing the border. They overstepped. Actually, the Supreme
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Court did the Joe Biden administration no favors when they sided with the Mexican drug cartels and the
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Biden administration with that five to four vote. I think that there is no doubt so long as Abbott persists
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and maintains his present stance. He will prevail, and this will look all the worse for Joe Biden,
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and it will illuminate exactly who he, Mayorkas, and his administration really are. What do you think
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of that idea? This is by design. Like I said, Alejandro Mayorkas knows how we closed the border down
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before. We have HR2, which has proven effective. If it's really serious about shutting down the border,
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we have a plan that we don't think is going to work. We know it's going to work because it worked
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on the last administration. Mexico's going to take unprecedented action in a few months to get
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those borders down. Then Mayorkas is going to take more to the port of entry, which means then he
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can claim less illegal entries between the ports. Between what Mayorkas is a shell game and what
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Mexico's about to do, they're going to try to fool the American people that the border is under
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better control. Yeah. And, you know, we've already seen this work. The Summer of Love, riots, arson,
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murders all across the country, burning federal courthouses, Antifa, Black Lives Matter. And guess
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what? Miraculously, it all stopped in the fall like it never happened going into Election Day.
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And I think you're right. We're going to see the same thing in Mexico on the border. I'm going to,
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you know, I, I, unfortunately, I really think that the national news media would resolve this if they
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had the guts to report what was really going on. This time, it's pretty clear. Everybody knows that
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Biden is corrupt. Seventy percent of the people in this country know he's corrupt. And when they think
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about all of the money that the Biden family got from Ukraine, from various other Eastern European
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hellholes, if you will, and from China itself, millions from China, wonder, it's just, it's hard
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not to wonder just how much money, how big the money is that the cartels are giving him to keep that
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border wide open. It's the sums have to be enormous. What do you think?
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Well, there's got to be a reason why we got over 100,000 Americans that died from fat and all
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poisoning. That's, that's more deaths, American deaths than, than any terrorist organization
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in the world is responsible for. Why hasn't the White House, why hasn't Joe Biden took an action
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against China, knowing that the precursors come to China, demand action. He hasn't done a single
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thing. If President Trump is in office, he would hold China accountable. He would hold Mexico
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accountable. If they didn't take action, President Trump would. But this administration has done
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nothing to slow down the fentanyl flow. In fact, I testified on the Hill two weeks ago,
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the Democrats still pushed that most of fentanyl is smuggled in the United States by U.S. citizens
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to the port of entry. That is a bunch of hogwash. I've been this for three decades. The criminal
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cartels in Mexico are going to use a rather least resistance. Matter of fact, last month in several
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different sectors, they pulled every single uniform off the line to process. You don't think
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the criminal cartels had a field day with that. Even the Democrats on the Hill are, are supporting
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this nonsense that U.S. citizens are smuggling the fentanyl in the United States. It's just
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Well, they're ridiculous. They're evil. They're violent. They're corrupt. And they are everywhere
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in this country right now, or every state, as you well know. And as we said, they own the
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border. We're talking with Tom Holman, the former director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
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Tom, as we wrap up here, your concluding thoughts on what you think will happen in terms of the
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impeachment of Alejandro Mayorkas. Do you think they'll be successful?
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I don't think the Senate will vote for it. I think we have, there's even a few Republicans
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in the House that are smiling right now. Sex trafficking is up 600 percent.
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Criminal cartels are making billions of dollars. Criminal cartels now operate in over 40 countries.
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They're in every major city of the United States. And the terrorist threat. He knows they've
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arrested over 300 people off the terrorist watchers on the southern border in three years.
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For Trump, we have 11 and four. For those actions alone, if they don't impeach them, there's
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something very wrong with this system. And I hope and pray they do. I hope it's successful.
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But I have my thoughts because, as you said earlier, we got some rhinos that care more about
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getting reelected than doing the right thing for the American people.
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And who knows? Maybe they are also getting a cut out of the deal. Tom, we thank you for being with
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us. It's great to talk to you, my friend. Thanks for being with us. And God bless you. Tom Holman.
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Thanks, everybody, for being with us here today. Join us tomorrow for The Great America Show.
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Our guest is J.R. Majewski. He's an America First candidate for Congress,
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running from the great state of Ohio, and Speaker Mike Johnson just endorsed his opponent.
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Majewski joins us tomorrow to talk about it. And by the way, I endorse J.R. Majewski,
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and I'm starting to really not like Speaker Mike Johnson.
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