The Great America Show - September 25, 2026


Trump JUST Got DISTURBING NEWS!

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Trump Jovan Pulitzer Stephen Gardner Sam Harris Jovan H Pulitzer Jovan Hutton-Pulitzer Michael Landon Lamar Kendrick Marco Rubio Jim Jordan Mark Lamb Joy Reid Bush
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00:00:00 Hey, everybody. It's Stephen Gardner filling in for John Fawcett on The Great America Show.
00:00:08 I'm glad to be back with you while John is traveling. I just finished an incredible
00:00:13 interview with election rigging expert Jovan Hutton Pulitzer. He's the guy, he's the only
00:00:19 guy that's ever done a forensic audit of an American election, and he found tons of fraud.
00:00:26 He's been educating President Trump behind the scenes on what to do.
00:00:30 It's the main reason Trump was pushing for the Save America Act, as well as the executive order on the Postal Service.
00:00:38 And you guys probably saw out today, some of that is going to go forward.
00:00:43 We're going to talk about Kamala Harris and how she says Trump is stripping the Democrats of 50 years of election rigging tools.
00:00:50 We're going to talk about the mail-in ballots, as well as how they were rigging the election through foreign donations.
00:00:58 I hope you enjoy the interview.
00:01:00 We're less than 60 days from the midterm elections.
00:01:04 Some people say that this is the most consequential election because it will decide who really controls Trump, who controls the country, the purse strings of Congress.
00:01:14 To help me go through everything, I have Jovan Hutton-Pulitzer.
00:01:17 Jovan, thank you for joining me again.
00:01:18 Thank you very much for having me.
00:01:20 So the first thing I wanted to go over is vice president, former vice president Kamala Harris.
00:01:28 She went to the the NAACP to tell people Republicans are rigging the midterm election.
00:01:36 She said the Save America Act will limit your voting rights and the tools Democrats have used for 50 years to win elections are being systematically removed.
00:01:46 She says that this is dangerous and a violation of their rights.
00:01:50 Let me show you in the audience that video, and then I want to talk about it because I found it to be just super interesting what she says.
00:01:59 And so I think part of the point is how we critically evaluate our fight and the tools, understanding that they have tried to and in some cases have successfully taken the tools that we relied on for the last 50 years.
00:02:20 The Voting Rights Act Section 5 and Section 2 is no longer available to us.
00:02:27 That doesn't mean we can't organize.
00:02:32 They're cheating with all this redistricting that they are doing.
00:02:37 They are cheating by changing polling locations so that our elders who are used to voting at the elementary school down the street
00:02:47 may go there on election day and find out it is no longer a polling place.
00:02:52 They are cheating by purging voter rolls.
00:02:55 So we say as leaders then to folks, not only must you register to vote,
00:03:00 check your voter registration status to make sure you haven't been purged from the rolls.
00:03:07 They're trying to take our tools, but we are a creative people.
00:03:13 And we know how to fight.
00:03:15 And we have always been fighting against the odds, and that has never deterred us.
00:03:23 OK, so I thought her comments about Republicans taking the tools the Democrats have used for 50 years was interesting.
00:03:33 I thought her saying they're they're cheating by purging voter rolls was interesting.
00:03:39 And then telling people the Save America Act was violating their voter rights.
00:03:44 Your thoughts on what the former vice president shared.
00:03:48 Well, number one, it's politics as usual.
00:03:51 Number two, when it's politics, their lips are moving, they're lying.
00:03:54 Number three, it is pushing off to the other party exactly what that one party does.
00:04:00 So let's kind of crack this back.
00:04:03 Number one, this is classic victimology.
00:04:07 And you've got to get people enraged.
00:04:10 They're hoping the enragement that you're losing your vote and they're discriminating against your melanin is going to take apathetic voters who are tired of the system on both sides of the aisle and is going to get them off center and get them out to vote.
00:04:25 It's basically rage baiting of a different form.
00:04:29 The next part of it, by saying voter rolls, purging voter rolls is illegal.
00:04:34 The reality is our voter rolls are broken.
00:04:38 They're inflated.
00:04:39 well over 20 million, pushing 30 million, bad voters on the voter rolls. And that's everything
00:04:46 from dead to non-existent to illegals and otherwise. They've told us for years they weren't 0.72
00:04:52 there. We've known they're there. And now you see that's what President Trump is focusing on.
00:04:57 But again, it has to have the fear element. You're going to show up and you're not going to be able
00:05:02 to vote because you're not going to be on the voter rolls. Then she dropped that little bit
00:05:07 of ditty about they're going to move your polling locations. Let's just take these and unpack it.
00:05:12 In 2020, in Georgia, I'll use Fulton County, Georgia, almost every single polling location
00:05:21 in predominantly white neighborhoods moved over two miles. The very thing she talks about for 0.94
00:05:30 older citizens to go vote, and they're used to going down to the local elementary school, 0.68
00:05:36 They moved them. They moved them in the name of COVID. They didn't reduce the numbers.
00:05:41 They just basically somehow found safer locations where the pandemic doesn't hang out. I don't know.
00:05:49 But that's exactly a tactic that was used. And it's used by precincts, by district, depending upon who's in power.
00:05:57 It's done. Both sides have done it. On the other side of it, when they talk about gerrymandering and you you have these counties that run like little blood veins.
00:06:06 into stretching other parts.
00:06:08 That's just basically, it qualifies for government dollars.
00:06:12 It qualifies for additional campaigning dollars and allotment.
00:06:16 And basically lets them say, no, this is really what we represent.
00:06:19 It's part of the rig that is the census.
00:06:21 I don't believe any of the census numbers are true.
00:06:24 What she actually did is made an admission. 0.94
00:06:26 It's a true admission.
00:06:28 They're taking our tools.
00:06:29 They're taking our tools that we have relied on, that nobody's audited,
00:06:34 nobody's paid attention to, nobody really looked at.
00:06:38 And by the way, it is, in fact, something we use to win elections,
00:06:43 and we're upset about it.
00:06:46 I don't know why she's worried about the SAVE Act.
00:06:48 It ain't going through, and it really doesn't change a thing.
00:06:51 But she's talking to an audience that has bought victimology for a long time,
00:06:57 but every one of these people that line up for benefits,
00:06:59 And some of these underserved, granted, and not economically prosperous communities, they still have to present their IDs to get their checks, to get their groceries, to get their free items, to qualify for their electric bill, still has to fill out the paperwork, still has to show up, still has to have that ID to show who they are.
00:07:21 But it's only when it's voting that it's racist. I think the world is beginning to see through these pre-packaged lies that it's not them representing a people.
00:07:34 It's them insulting a people and trying to anger them so they can stay in power and control them.
00:07:40 that's interesting that they insult them but say it was somebody behind them that was doing it and
00:07:51 they're just standing in the way or or bringing it to their attention um yeah when she said uh
00:07:58 the tools that we've used for 50 years i just made a little list here uh bloated voter rolls
00:08:04 uh lawsuits to keep those bloated voter rolls bloated correct people illegal names going on
00:08:12 whether those are actually voted or somebody's voting that but then you can't get to it because
00:08:17 they then shut it down with lawsuits right um gerrymandering they are the experts at gerrymandering
00:08:24 yet we get a few areas and and then they realize oh wait they're on to our game right racism and
00:08:31 race baiting, flooding the country with illegals and then incentivizing people to stay poor because
00:08:37 the government will take care of you or illegals to come here because you can live off of the 0.84
00:08:43 efforts and the money of the taxpayer and the American worker. Are there any other tools in 0.98
00:08:50 the last 50 years that they've used that I've missed? No, you've caught them all. And basically
00:08:55 it's enslavement. When you when you look at exactly what it is, you're still beholding to
00:08:59 a slave master, they still control you. But what they do is they manipulate the rules. I'll give
00:09:04 you an example. And I'll use Maricopa, because it's the one that's only ever done a full forensic
00:09:10 audit that certified this stuff. They will mail out a ballot, because they're 80% mail-in ballots.
00:09:16 So mail out a ballot to a voter, supposedly on the rolls. That ballot will come back
00:09:23 with a five done. No such person, no such address, address unknown, undeliverable or deceased. Those
00:09:32 are basically the five done. When that comes back to the voting commission, what they do is they're
00:09:39 obligated by law to notify the voter that, hey, your ballot came back and you need to fix this.
00:09:46 So what do they do? Now, the post office telling you nobody's there, no such number.
00:09:51 The county generates a postcard, sends a postcard back to that same address.
00:09:58 Now, invariably, that postcard comes back.
00:10:00 But they don't want to discriminate against anybody.
00:10:03 And so when that one comes back, what they'll do is put it in a temporary hold that is allowed to be there and stay on the rolls for two general elections.
00:10:15 General elections.
00:10:16 They can stay there 13 years knowing the person's not there and they are not obligated to take it off the voter rolls.
00:10:24 Now you let somebody die. The moment somebody dies, especially if they're on Social Security, you ain't getting that Social Security check anymore.
00:10:31 In most cases, right? Tax office knows. Coroner knows. Maricopa County, they're literally next door.
00:10:37 They don't take the person off the voter roll.
00:10:40 They put the onus on the family.
00:10:43 You've got to remember to take them off the voter rolls. 1.00
00:10:47 Then let's just take illegals. 1.00
00:10:49 This is what I exposed a long time ago in Arizona. 0.97
00:10:53 They will take an illegal that comes across the border.
00:10:57 They make the illegal sign a piece of paper that says, I'm here to work.
00:11:01 I just need to take care of myself.
00:11:03 and they make them sign basically a promise to show up for court. Five years down the road,
00:11:09 by the way. What they do for that illegal is they give them, believe it or not, a social security
00:11:14 number, which is the validating piece that says you're an American citizen. They then, once they
00:11:21 give you that social number, because you promised to work, you promised to pay taxes, they tell you,
00:11:26 you must go get a valid United States ID. So what does that person do? They go down to motor voter.
00:11:33 Motor voter, basically, I need a driver's license.
00:11:37 They're going to do it in Spanish and whatever, Venezuela, whatever the case may be, right? 0.60
00:11:41 Whatever language, doesn't matter because it's not going to be English.
00:11:44 You're going to take a driving test.
00:11:46 You're going to pass.
00:11:47 They're going to say, show me your ID.
00:11:49 They're going to show a social security card.
00:11:51 They probably got an address that goes to a local church.
00:11:54 So when they do motor voter, it's an automatic drop.
00:11:58 You got registered to drive.
00:12:00 We automatically register you to vote.
00:12:03 the illegal has to uncheck the box that says, oh, I'm not legal, I can't vote. The box is
00:12:14 default, I'm legal, I can vote. No, they go worse. So now all of a sudden, when you get
00:12:20 your driver's license, they automatically drop you on the voter rolls. It's just about getting
00:12:23 the person there. It's not that this person is necessarily going to illegally vote. So what
00:12:28 happens? They generate an automatic voter registration card that says, hey, you're registered
00:12:34 vote. Now that goes to some bulk address, usually a church that's doing this, 30, 40,000. I've seen
00:12:41 tens of thousands at one location. But they wrote a new law that says if the illegal for any reason
00:12:47 thought they could legally vote, then in fact, if they do vote and they're illegal, it is not a
00:12:55 crime. Let me ask you a question. If you automatically get your voter registration
00:12:59 card because you got an ID, are you going to assume you can vote because they sent you a
00:13:03 voter registration? Yes. That's how the red works. Wow. Okay. So that answers a question because
00:13:09 I've been watching this gentleman. He's been down in Georgia and other places and he's going and
00:13:16 he's saying, listen, look at this piece of paper. There are 2000 people registered that say they
00:13:23 live at this Presbyterian church. Then he'll go to another. I've got 3,500 people that say that
00:13:30 they live and voted from this Catholic church. It's not necessarily the church that's rigging
00:13:38 this or something like that. It's literally, they're getting help from this place. They put
00:13:43 that as their address. The government system gives them the social security, registers them to drive
00:13:49 and vote. That's the address. And then we wonder why there's 10,000 people in Maricopa County 0.63
00:13:55 voting from a church address. Well, here's, here's, let's just take Maricopa since you brought
00:14:00 it up. It's not that there are 10,000 people voting from a church address. It's really a more,
00:14:05 a more simple hack than that. Predominantly, the illegals are not voting. 0.99
00:14:12 what maricopa does is it's automatic mail-in voting so they have 10 000 ballots basically
00:14:21 that's called a ballot packet it's the outside envelope official outside envelope there is an
00:14:27 official legal ballot inside there is a return secured envelope in it and that is mailed to that
00:14:34 address now if you go to these addresses you try to interview the people knowing 10 000 ballots
00:14:42 went there. Nobody's ever to say, well, we don't really know what happened to them. We gathered
00:14:46 them up, but we don't know what happened to them. Basically, it's a congregation of the
00:14:52 congregation of illegals. It's a congregation point. Now what you have is 10,000 legal ballots 0.98
00:15:00 that they pick these up, illegal operations. They'll do side rooms. They'll watch the totals, 0.94
00:15:10 understanding the numbers. Then this precedes to what's called a ballot cracking operation.
00:15:15 They crack open the legal ballot. They pull out the legal ballot from that envelope,
00:15:25 and now it has the security envelope. They vote it the way they need it to go. Because it went
00:15:31 to that location, it's already precinct specific, right? Or all over. They vote them how they want
00:15:38 them. They put them back in the security envelope. They scribble a signature because they don't do
00:15:42 signature checking anymore. That's what the ballot mules transport. They give them back to ballot 0.93
00:15:48 mules. That's why they take a picture because they dropped off 20. They get paid for dropping
00:15:52 off 20. That's why they go around to different locations to spread it out across the country.
00:15:57 It is an identifier. One of the other identifier hacks that have been on there for a long time
00:16:01 is you'll find, you can run the databases, you'll find people born in 1900. Obviously they're
00:16:07 to see it's just like on social security but in old databases before databases got smaller they
00:16:13 would know where the fat the fat is run me everybody in 1900 i know what i can use they'll
00:16:18 run off the ballast they'll use them they're insert them it's all data hooks and so in that
00:16:23 scenario they're using a data hook but they're also blatantly violating law give you another
00:16:27 example from maricopa that we found liz harris found there in the canvas for 2020 etc you'll
00:16:34 have a place where 2,000 people are registered to vote. The county will tell you that's for the
00:16:39 homeless people. You go to that address, there is no mailbox. There is no Dropbox. It's an empty
00:16:46 field. But the post person actually breaks the law because they take those ballots and they go down
00:16:53 the road a few miles to an NGO, right, one of these nonprofits, they'll drop them off there for
00:16:58 pickup. Well, technically, that's
00:17:00 against the law. And once
00:17:02 these things get in the wash, because when
00:17:04 you separate the envelope from the ballot, you can
00:17:06 never tell who voted it. That's how
00:17:08 they hide it under the radar.
00:17:10 And so this is spread out amongst
00:17:12 many things. I've found two
00:17:14 bedroom trailers with 49
00:17:16 people registered
00:17:18 voting from that
00:17:20 same trailer.
00:17:23 Wow.
00:17:24 Or 80 people voting from a
00:17:26 same Mexican restaurant.
00:17:28 or 21 people voting from the local 7-Eleven.
00:17:33 There's a bounty, there's an underground bounty system.
00:17:36 They spread it out.
00:17:37 Some of them do intentionally.
00:17:39 I've seen a woman and her husband live in a home for 40 years,
00:17:43 but somehow there's 13, 14 people registered.
00:17:46 They keep on returning it back.
00:17:47 They aren't here, but the county refuses to take them off.
00:17:50 Why?
00:17:50 Because if the post people can intercept them, they get money.
00:17:53 I've heard they'll pay 20, 30, 40, 50, up to $1,000 a ballot
00:17:57 and bounties. They do them in gift cards to get those ballots back in because it comes down to
00:18:02 very close races. That's how they get them back to them. And gangs, entire criminal gangs,
00:18:08 during these places with mail-in ballots, it's going to happen in the midterms already out,
00:18:14 they're going to go start robbing the ballots from the mailboxes. Why? Because they get paid
00:18:18 to bring that ballot packet in. Wow. Here in Utah, they just arrested a postman
00:18:26 who admitted that he dumped 300 mail-in ballots off somewhere because he just didn't want to
00:18:32 carry them anymore. And then they're like, well, where, where are the ballots? And he said, I don't
00:18:36 know. I just, I just didn't want to carry them anymore. He's going to jail, but I mean, that's,
00:18:41 that's pretty wild. Okay. A couple of thoughts that I just messaged myself. Okay. So was Trump's
00:18:48 executive order, ordering the U.S. Postal Service to have lists, check those lists,
00:18:56 what went out, what came back. The Supreme Court said it was legal and a good executive order,
00:19:03 but that he ran out of time. Was he trying to create a chain of custody or bypass this kind
00:19:10 of theft? What do you think he was trying to do there? Well, I know exactly what he's trying to
00:19:14 do. I'll explain to you how it works. And yes, the game is sue, stop, sue, stop, sue, stop to get
00:19:22 to the point that the time has run out. Why? You can't make any changes to the voter rolls 90 days
00:19:29 out. And the states have to have time to respond to administer their election. So you got to
00:19:33 go way in the back. First off, do you remember when we had a congressional mail scandal
00:19:39 that they found out Congress members and stuff were cheating on the mail and getting stamp money
00:19:46 and mail money and pocketing it. Do you happen to remember that scandal? No. Okay. So it's one
00:19:52 of the scandals that rocked the United States and actually implicated and indicted sitting
00:19:58 members of Congress and Senate. For a senator or for a congressperson to misappropriate the mail,
00:20:09 which is considered money, is a crime, a punishable crime. Now, let's back off a layer.
00:20:16 In the mailing of ballots for any county, that burden is split by the parties. It's not free.
00:20:27 Democrats pay for X or, you know, Republicans pay for X and it's divided by, you know,
00:20:32 House and Senate. That's where the money comes from, those pulled kitties. Well, what's going
00:20:38 on is you will find that balloteers, the people that print the ballots, are overprinting ballots.
00:20:46 What we're trying to audit, which I couldn't get a hold of in Arizona, they refused to give it over,
00:20:52 is if the county said they mailed 2,500,000 ballots, right, and it cost $1 to mail them,
00:21:03 what should the postage charge be? $2,500,000. And if it cost $1 for that ballot to come back,
00:21:11 meaning return mail, and all of them came back, let's say that's 2.5 million coming back, right?
00:21:18 So you can balance the books. Well, they refused to turn over those numbers. They withheld the
00:21:25 post office number remittance. They withheld the county remittance. Why? Because then you can audit
00:21:31 a money trail. You can audit. You can take that. You can audit against the ballot printer.
00:21:36 Is what they said real? Did what they really mail it real? Did it come in? Now, the issue is
00:21:43 there's obviously corruption going on underneath because they're overprinting ballots and
00:21:48 ballot packets. Now, if they know that 100,000 of them don't really need to be mailed, we just need
00:21:54 to get the ballots. Well, if they sent out 2.4 million, but they claimed it was 2.5, you catch
00:21:58 it real easy. You understand what I'm saying? Well, one of the things that happened since the
00:22:03 2020s is you're finding out, oops, we mailed ballots. There was a boo-boo on it. We got to
00:22:08 reprint them. We got to send new ones. The system doesn't know the difference between the bad ballot
00:22:13 and the good ballot. All they did was get more ballots out. Now, in Maricopa, we discovered
00:22:19 during the audit that supposedly, and I'm rounding here, that when they said they mailed four Maricopa
00:22:25 only, 2.5 million ballots, the problem is the print records show they printed 4,089,000.
00:22:35 Now, what the president did is, when you understand how these mechanisms work,
00:22:41 in order to get a crime to stick.
00:22:45 This is all about enforcement. 0.99
00:22:46 Everything on the machines, Venezuela, Serbia, China, Dominion, it's all crap.
00:22:52 It's not enforceable because 100% of our rules are voluntary.
00:22:56 You comply if you want to.
00:22:58 It's not a crime not to.
00:22:59 But when it comes to mail, it has very specific crimes associated with you.
00:23:05 If you misappropriate the money, here's where it comes in.
00:23:08 We have in the United States this thing called election mail. It's a specific rate class for elections. It's how the United States Post Office is able to say we mailed this many election ballots. It's a tracking system.
00:23:27 So what the president did is basically hooked election mail because it's ballots, not machines.
00:23:35 He said, OK, we got election mail and it has a unique postal code on it.
00:23:41 All he said was, in order to have that election mail expensed and done, you, the state, has to submit your voter rolls and say under a testament.
00:23:55 We basically say this is a legal voter.
00:23:59 They're real.
00:24:00 They're here.
00:24:01 They're valid.
00:24:02 They're alive.
00:24:03 We scrubbed the rolls.
00:24:04 We've done our job.
00:24:05 See, the problem is two things.
00:24:07 The problem is if they turn over the rolls, which they refuse to do, you can't find it.
00:24:13 But what the mechanism was designed to do is withhold the mailing because it forces the lawmakers to attest to it.
00:24:20 then every single lawmaker's on the hook because both sides of the House in each state attested
00:24:26 this is valid. It puts every one of them on the line illegally as soon as the moment the numbers
00:24:31 are off. It was a very brilliant move to basically create an auditable feature and tie it to the
00:24:38 voter rolls where it should be tied. It was done right. It was done legally. The post office has
00:24:44 the right to do it. The president has the right to do it. But what the system did was game the clock
00:24:50 kicking the can because then they finally say, oh, wait, the midterms are here. We're not going
00:24:55 to be able to process ballots. We want to comply, but we've got to focus on getting these out. Now
00:24:59 the clock is expired and it goes away. That's the game. So if they've lost that quarter of the game,
00:25:08 as soon as the midterms are done, shouldn't Trump's solicitor or somebody jump right back
00:25:14 in with SCOTUS? Because they said everything's good and legal. You've just ran out of time.
00:25:18 OK, now we have 24 months before the next election or 20, you know, 20, 21 months before the next election and minus 90 days.
00:25:27 They should, but that's not going to be the battle.
00:25:30 What will be the new battle? 0.97
00:25:32 We're going to get our butts kicked in the midterms.
00:25:34 We're going to lose seats all over the place.
00:25:37 And it's going to give them the right to now start talking about basically prosecuting President Trump again, which they said they're going to try to impeach him.
00:25:46 That's going to take every hands on deck to fight that.
00:25:49 They're not going to worry about what happened in the election because you can't undo it now because it's already done.
00:25:57 Yeah.
00:25:58 Let me let me give you an example.
00:26:00 Yeah.
00:26:01 In election integrity itself.
00:26:05 This is so bad.
00:26:06 I can sit either face to face or side by side with President Trump going over every bit of this.
00:26:14 And I've got his advisors listening
00:26:17 And I'm saying, we've got to do this
00:26:19 We've got to eliminate the voter rolls
00:26:21 We've got to do this maneuver
00:26:22 Here's how it works on the voter rolls
00:26:24 And over my shoulder, somebody who said
00:26:26 We're told that don't bother with the voter rolls
00:26:30 Because they'll just put them back on
00:26:32 And I will turn around
00:26:34 I turn around, real story
00:26:35 And I said, this is me 1.00
00:26:37 Because I said, who in the hell told you that crap? 1.00
00:26:40 Right? 1.00
00:26:41 Oh, we heard it from people on election integrity
00:26:44 and Michael Lindell's team, don't bother with voter roll, let's put them back on. That's how
00:26:48 bad this is and how high this goes. That was a conversation that gave us 3.9 years to clean
00:26:58 the voter rolls when we could have had it all done. It got stopped in its tracks because at
00:27:03 the election integrity, putting people on the road speaking level, it got all the way up to
00:27:07 the White House advisor saying, we can't really do that. They'll just put them back on. So it's
00:27:11 futile, it's sweeping a dirt floor. That's how nasty and how horrible this game is played. Now,
00:27:17 President Trump's a very smart man. He knows what's up. That's why you see him. He's fighting
00:27:22 the mail-in ballots. He's fighting on the voter rolls and turn it over. But you hear everybody
00:27:26 else there promoting Serbia, Croatia, China. It's the machines. It's all not enforceable by law. 0.77
00:27:33 It doesn't matter. You can't put somebody in jail in the United States of America for what they did
00:27:38 for an election in Venezuela 10 years ago. It's horse hockey.
00:27:43 Okay, so this is why he went after the Postal Service.
00:27:47 He's using the tools that afford prosecution to stop it. Everything else is just fluff.
00:27:54 And I'm assuming this is why after the election, data showed that there were
00:28:00 way more ballots in many counties than there were adults that could even vote?
00:28:06 it's yes and no you got to be very careful on those numbers because a lot of people are reading
00:28:12 things on it where they really don't have the right numbers like a lot of people telling you
00:28:17 i saw the vote change on tv that's that's polling data that's not certified canvas data but they
00:28:23 claim we saw them vote and swap it's all a con you got to be very very careful about it you can't do
00:28:28 it on averages. You have to do it on actual numbers. The bottom line is if they printed
00:28:36 more ballots than they actually have physical numbers on the voter rolls, that's a flag issue
00:28:46 you should look at. You cannot say they printed more ballots, and when we run an algorithm based
00:28:52 on people that are eligible to vote in the Classical Order this age, we think it should have
00:28:57 many, this many, and it's far less. That doesn't stick in court, will never stick in court,
00:29:02 and it's not empirical data, period. It's based 100% on the voter rolls. You've got to be able
00:29:09 to show they printed this many, and this is not how many people of age or could vote statistically,
00:29:15 means nothing in court. Here's exactly what the voter rolls say. Now, the catch is, I believe,
00:29:20 the counties, maintain separate books. I've pushed and pushed and pushed for this audit.
00:29:28 This was what part of what the president was writing in, which you just realize in the mail.
00:29:33 Let me give you an example. I told them, you know, we got this ERIC system, right? Electronic
00:29:39 Registration Information Center magically going to clean the rolls. I believe when people come
00:29:45 into audit and they ask for the roles we actually get the eric one which is clean
00:29:50 but nobody's ever audited let me see eric let me see the county let me see the version
00:29:59 the ballot printer used okay and what they're doing is they're cooking the books using different
00:30:05 databases while they misdirect everybody that's how deep this is dang
00:30:12 it's kind of it hits you in the head like a ton of bricks when you when you realize the difference
00:30:18 we don't ask those questions we don't demand audits we don't demand exactly how many did
00:30:25 you mail how many did you print how many did you mail how many did you deliver how many got
00:30:31 screwed up that you trashed show me everyone you trashed show me the mail for everyone you mailed
00:30:36 i want to see the receipt i want to show everyone that came back and they better check we don't even 0.60
00:30:41 do that. That's contract law. But yet, we don't write contracts for it.
00:30:50 Well, 80% of this, 85% of the problems we have are fixable with proper contract law. We don't
00:30:57 need new laws from the books. We don't need any of it. We have everything we need.
00:31:00 Let me ask you this, Jovan.
00:31:08 Sheriff Mark Lamb of Arizona said something really interesting.
00:31:13 He said, right after President Trump shut down USAID and took away the free taxpayer money to fake NGOs and fake charities,
00:31:24 suddenly Democrats can't raise enough money for this election.
00:31:29 yet they're predicted to win let me show you in the audience this and then i want to talk about
00:31:35 that with you no law enforcement call this a clue when when uh usa id and all these uh ngos were
00:31:42 defunded because of the fraud and other stuff and the usa id going down all of a sudden democrats
00:31:48 aren't raising as much money now oh you notice and then they try to then they try to tell you
00:31:53 in the same breath that there is no illegals voting yet we consistently like secretary mullen
00:31:58 says, not only was there 1,600 that were arrested, there's 300,000 cases they still need to
00:32:03 investigate. And look no further than our own government, the Senate, who says, we don't want
00:32:09 to sign, we don't want to approve the Save America Act, because they know that it's going to stop 0.88
00:32:15 illegals from voting. Not just that, they didn't even want to allow President Trump to go through 0.73
00:32:20 the post office and say the post office needs to, which I think is totally correct, to ensure that 0.95
00:32:26 A ballot goes out to an actual registered voter citizen of this country, not illegals. 0.94
00:32:33 And yet they continue to defend and fight against that. 0.97
00:32:37 So they're complicit as politicians, and we need to get them all out of there.
00:32:42 We should tar and feather them like in the old days so they learn a valuable lesson.
00:32:45 Some of that you and I have already talked about in the first part of the show.
00:32:49 But do you think that there's any coincidence between they come in, they shut down USAID,
00:32:55 all of these places that are receiving money to bring in illegals and and and then get routed through a dozen different LLCs or charities or NGOs.
00:33:07 And now suddenly the Democrats have a fraction of the money that they've had in the past for election.
00:33:14 Any coincidence? Well, let me let me throw some things at you.
00:33:17 I'm going to turn the tables on you. I'm going to throw you some facts.
00:33:19 You tell me if you think they're coincidence.
00:33:22 Secretary of State Marco Rubio came out July 1st, 2025, and said, we're shutting off and shutting down USAID.
00:33:28 It was basically shut down.
00:33:31 Now, a few things happened.
00:33:32 People stopped showing up at the border.
00:33:36 We stopped having large migrant caravans. 0.99
00:33:39 That stopped.
00:33:41 Secondly, yes, the Democrats are hurting and running out of money.
00:33:44 You got to ask yourself if that's a coincidence.
00:33:47 Then you got a few other things that coincide with it. 0.96
00:33:50 One, for the first time in 40 years since the Bush administration, when it popped up on the radar, this thing called rap music, which talks about white people bad, shoot everybody, kill the police, foe the police, all that other stuff. 0.92
00:34:10 the very first time. At the same time, multiple charts, RAP didn't even appear in the top 40.
00:34:19 Has never happened ever since it was introduced. All of a sudden, all of them fall from grace. And
00:34:25 by the way, the number one that was going on at the time, Lamar Kendrick or whatever it was,
00:34:29 I don't follow it. He'd been 13 weeks in a row as number one. And all of a sudden,
00:34:35 the money's gone, boom, it doesn't even rank in the top 100. Oh, and then at the same time,
00:34:43 MSNBC collapses, Joy Reid's gone, all of these people that were being paid to spew this hate
00:34:50 and support it, exporting culture, how bad America is this, all of them all of a sudden
00:34:55 lose their precious TV contracts. All of those things happen at the same time. Now, is that a
00:35:01 coincidence? I think that it is. At the same time, they shut down ActBlue, and all of a sudden,
00:35:11 you don't have all this money pouring in through ActBlue from foreign people and billionaires.
00:35:17 And bogus accounts, bogus accounts funding in. It's no different than a Russian operation 0.51
00:35:22 stealing one or two dollars from an account in a year. You don't see it. They're just cycling
00:35:26 money through your account and you're not watching it, but it happened. Yes, all of these things,
00:35:32 they are not coincidences. What happens is if you look at it in a court of law,
00:35:38 we have the scales of justice, which is called bopping, the balance of probabilities.
00:35:46 You put all the evidence in, 50-50, can't make a decision. If it tips one way, it has tipped
00:35:53 what's called BOP, the balance of probabilities. Well, the interesting thing happens when it comes
00:35:59 to coincidences, too. When you look at all of those were known through different ways to get
00:36:05 USAID money, and all of a sudden you have these big cultural shifts, the very one that we're
00:36:11 exporting, hate the police, white supremacists, your colony, all that, but all of them stop at
00:36:16 basically the same time, it becomes the overwhelming amount of coincidences and
00:36:26 themselves become the confirming evidence that on balance of probabilities, we were being played.
00:36:35 That's how I see it, too. That's how I see it, too. And, you know, Act Blue was brought in before
00:36:41 congress they pled the fit every every single person that was brought in pled the fifth on
00:36:46 every single thing and then it seems to go away jim jordan says it's not going away there's still
00:36:52 stuff going on behind the scenes i just well no no he's gonna send i heard he's got a fourth
00:36:57 killer incredibly strongly worded letter he's gonna send and i have it on good authority i'm
00:37:05 telling you this fourth one this fourth one is supposed to be a doozy it got expanded to four
00:37:10 paragraphs normally he uses too it is going to be a doozy of words and he's going to send it
00:37:16 i i get so sick of these strong letters like
00:37:21 where i want the arrests i want the arrests i mean we see it it's like being gas lit in real time
00:37:30 you cut off the money all of gas lit in fire they're not only throwing the gas at us their
00:37:35 lightness on fire and laughing at us so so then my i guess question would be you know democrats
00:37:46 are wildly unpopular yes they have no good leadership they have no good ideas their their
00:37:52 tools to cheat for 50 years are being pulled out from under them and yet they are predicted to to
00:38:00 win even before the gas prices went high even before the diesel you gotta you gotta look you
00:38:05 got to look at both. You got to look at the synchronous movement, the synchronous movement.
00:38:14 It's a true thing in spiritual warfare that evil has to tell you first, because if you don't push
00:38:19 back on it, you're basically giving them approval to do it. If you're spiritual and faith, it's just
00:38:25 a true fact, but you're only looking at one side of the equation. The very same time when they're
00:38:33 underfunded, undermanned, destructive, horrible against America. Everybody knows it.
00:38:41 They're promoting, we're going to win. We're going to sweep it. We're going to do it. We're
00:38:44 going to prosecute Trump to the fullest. What do you see going on at the right? You see top
00:38:50 patriot podcasters now coming out. Trump's owned by Israel. Trump's not doing a good job. Trump is 0.83
00:38:58 horrible. This is bad. Gas, gas, gas. This is bad. That's the collusion. It is the left bragging 1.00
00:39:06 because they know what's coming and the right that is in on it, providing the cover story.
00:39:12 So when it happens, they can say, we told you people didn't like President Trump.
00:39:19 It is the same party, the same thing. And that's why you see so many people
00:39:24 that you swore were for this nation
00:39:27 and knew we were doing good under President Trump,
00:39:32 now turning on President Trump,
00:39:33 oh, he's made a wrong decision here,
00:39:35 oh, he's made a wrong decision,
00:39:36 or oh, he's doing this, and I don't agree with it.
00:39:39 It's a con, a total con.
00:39:42 It's psychological warfare messaging,
00:39:45 getting your brain ready to keep you docile
00:39:47 for what's coming.
00:39:49 Okay, that was my last question,
00:39:52 was are we going to be docile and distracted enough that they say we can cheat and no one's
00:39:58 even going to question it um you and i because we both sit behind the cameras and microphone
00:40:17 own. We have a responsibility to our fellow mankind if we're ethically moral, that we just
00:40:28 don't fill people's head with craps, right? We don't do it. Why? Because we do what we do because
00:40:34 we need America to survive. It's the greatest nation on the planet. It's for America. It's
00:40:39 not by left side, right side, or whatever the case may be. The system has glided along on a con.
00:40:45 Now, I can use another great example from recent history of the Maricopa audit. We were the first time in American history we got the full ballots to look at, the physical ballots to document them all.
00:40:57 However, the GOP filed 72 lawsuits to get those ballots from other places, 12 hours before the statute of limitations expired. 0.92
00:41:10 The freaking summons, right?
00:41:14 The service wasn't even done yet, and it expired. 0.89
00:41:17 But the GOP said, we filed all these lawsuits, all play acting.
00:41:21 I believe the system is so entrenched and so grifting, and everybody's got involved with it and got their tentacles in it, that everybody's afraid to make a move, and then they actually look at themselves as rulers.
00:41:36 But that is never going to change if the people in your position and in my position behind cameras and microphones don't take a stand and stop blowing this smoke up and participating in it and tell the people actually how to respond.
00:41:56 We're not getting justice because they misdirect us on what we should be outraged about.
00:42:06 Mess with the ballot, the physical ballot, what you see prosecution going on right now,
00:42:11 like that postman.
00:42:12 You screw with the ballot, you're going to jail.
00:42:15 But what does the system continually push on you?
00:42:18 It's Venezuela.
00:42:20 It's Serbia. 0.85
00:42:21 It's the machines. 0.86
00:42:22 100% of those rules are voluntary.
00:42:25 You mess with a million ballots on the machine, a million votes on the machine.
00:42:29 It's a misdemeanor with a thousand dollar fine.
00:42:31 You do it in the ballot sphere and you mess with a million ballots. It's one million state felonies, one million federal felonies individual. The system is educating us on the wrong things. And now we have what I call we got we got good podcasters like yourself that try to get the truth out.
00:42:51 But then we have the regurgicasters, the fraudcasters, the doomcasters, and it's all about the clicks versus here's what America really needs to know.
00:43:01 None of this is going to change until you, the American citizen, audit yourself.
00:43:10 Here's what I mean.
00:43:12 If you go back in time and you believe that we had super secret satellite encoded signals in the ballots in 2020 and President Trump was still the president and had them all, and you still listen to those same people and you still go to that, it was the Pope's satellite that went to Italy, and you haven't cleaned your own house, you're part of the problem.
00:43:36 Let me tell you why you still follow. You might not even follow account, but you're still following
00:43:41 it. And that way, every time your friend comes across that account, they see your name followed
00:43:46 by this and they go, oh, that's a good person. She's my friend. I trust her. Well, you're still
00:43:50 giving those people your good name. Why? Because you won't yourself audit yourself. Take a look at
00:43:58 who you followed, why you followed them, call them out on the crap they did and decide to have the 0.97
00:44:05 type of personal fortitude President Trump has and cut them off because they're trading on your 0.99
00:44:10 good name every damn day out there that other people pass by. You never see. It's just your 0.95
00:44:16 thousands on your friend list. But if they pass by that person, that broadcaster, that doomcaster,
00:44:21 that broadcaster, oh, it's followed by my friend. I should follow them. Until we take responsibility
00:44:25 for ourselves, until we realize it's only when you get in the weeds and the deep facts of people
00:44:31 that really do it. Well, you will learn. But you know what? A lot of people out there trust their
00:44:35 favorite hot dog vending guy to give them the geopolitical stance of what's going on in this
00:44:41 world. The problem's us. We enable the system. We pay the system. We pay for the clicks. We pay for
00:44:49 the engagement. We pay the taxes. And we don't expect great things of ourselves. We change that.
00:44:54 We'll win this. We don't. They're going to keep on taking advantage of us.
00:44:57 Wow, that's good advice. I never thought about it that way, but I probably am contributing to that as well. So I'm going to audit myself. Okay, final question. I appreciate your time. I know how valuable it is.
00:45:10 Well, can I use an analogy for you?
00:45:13 Yes, go ahead.
00:45:14 You are one of the very few people out there, this coming from me, that I trust as a human, that I also trust as a broadcaster, because I feel I know you and I know where you come from.
00:45:27 that from you comes through your camera to the people because they see,
00:45:34 I look, I'm, I'm red faced. I can be loud or whatever.
00:45:36 You're nice, calm and mellow, right? 1.00
00:45:38 I look like I want to kick their ass. They love you to death. 1.00
00:45:41 You understand what I'm saying?
00:45:43 And so you carry an amazing imprimatur weight of credibility.
00:45:49 But if you yourself go back and look at some of your social media,
00:45:54 whether it be YouTube or X or whatever,
00:45:56 and you're following the people that were saying it was a CIA operation and the president Trump's
00:46:01 really always been the president was this. You never think about it. You're off and gone.
00:46:06 But all these people that see you. And all of a sudden they're coming across X and they see that
00:46:13 Stephen Gardner follows this guy. What do they think? This guy must be the real deal. What do
00:46:17 they do? Boom, follow. You've got them in a trap because they're trading off you and our bad
00:46:23 hygiene, social hygiene habits does lifting for a lot of the others, these other people that don't
00:46:30 deserve it. And so there's personal hygiene on social media, because we live in a chaos engine
00:46:35 and what they're trading is emotions. We got to cut it off. We got to stop it. And it begins with
00:46:41 us having high standards. This is why I love having you on. You always make me think so deeply.
00:46:50 Um, okay. The, the final question that I was going to ask is, um, how can people follow you?
00:46:59 Look for the, look for the little burnt flame trail going down the road. No,
00:47:02 use my full name hashtag. Let me explain what a hashtags for. When you go to a search engine
00:47:11 and you put in Jovan Hutton Pulitzer, you're not only going to find all the crap they read about me,
00:47:17 but you're going to find every Jovan. You're going to find every Hutton. You're going to find every
00:47:20 Pulitzer derivative. When you push it together with no spaces and you put that hashtag, that pound
00:47:26 signed in front of it, it's like GPS laser for the internet. So the best way to find me and where I
00:47:33 am, any search engine, use my full name on social media, but in any search engine, put hashtag
00:47:38 Jovan Hutton Pulitzer all together, hit it. You will see just me, only me, all my social media,
00:47:45 and you can find me anywhere.
00:47:47 But I'm on Rumble.
00:47:48 I consider it my anchor video.
00:47:51 Why?
00:47:51 Because YouTube took 259,000 of my subscribers
00:47:54 and threw them in the toilet
00:47:56 because they didn't like what I was talking about.
00:47:58 Rumble didn't do that.
00:48:00 So it's just rumble.com forward slash Jovan Hutton Pulitzer.
00:48:04 And for the ones that can't handle that many letters,
00:48:07 it's Jovan H Pulitzer.
00:48:09 You'll find me.
00:48:11 Okay.
00:48:11 I'm also going to just put a direct link
00:48:13 so that people can find you.
00:48:15 Thank you very much for what you do.
00:48:17 I consider you a patriot for America.
00:48:21 Thank you very much.
00:48:22 I'm going to put that down
00:48:23 and then we will have you on again in the future.
00:48:26 I'm in.