The Great America Show - September 25, 2026


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00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody. It's Stephen Gardner filling in for John Fawcett on The Great America Show.
00:00:08.680 I'm glad to be back with you while John is traveling. I just finished an incredible
00:00:13.440 interview with election rigging expert Jovan Hutton Pulitzer. He's the guy, he's the only
00:00:19.600 guy that's ever done a forensic audit of an American election, and he found tons of fraud.
00:00:26.500 He's been educating President Trump behind the scenes on what to do.
00:00:30.820 It's the main reason Trump was pushing for the Save America Act, as well as the executive order on the Postal Service.
00:00:38.740 And you guys probably saw out today, some of that is going to go forward.
00:00:43.340 We're going to talk about Kamala Harris and how she says Trump is stripping the Democrats of 50 years of election rigging tools.
00:00:50.920 We're going to talk about the mail-in ballots, as well as how they were rigging the election through foreign donations.
00:00:58.400 I hope you enjoy the interview.
00:01:00.580 We're less than 60 days from the midterm elections.
00:01:04.180 Some people say that this is the most consequential election because it will decide who really controls Trump, who controls the country, the purse strings of Congress.
00:01:14.340 To help me go through everything, I have Jovan Hutton-Pulitzer.
00:01:17.360 Jovan, thank you for joining me again.
00:01:18.860 Thank you very much for having me.
00:01:20.920 So the first thing I wanted to go over is vice president, former vice president Kamala Harris.
00:01:28.220 She went to the the NAACP to tell people Republicans are rigging the midterm election.
00:01:36.480 She said the Save America Act will limit your voting rights and the tools Democrats have used for 50 years to win elections are being systematically removed.
00:01:46.340 She says that this is dangerous and a violation of their rights.
00:01:50.000 Let me show you in the audience that video, and then I want to talk about it because I found it to be just super interesting what she says.
00:01:59.600 And so I think part of the point is how we critically evaluate our fight and the tools, understanding that they have tried to and in some cases have successfully taken the tools that we relied on for the last 50 years.
00:02:20.000 The Voting Rights Act Section 5 and Section 2 is no longer available to us.
00:02:27.000 That doesn't mean we can't organize.
00:02:32.000 They're cheating with all this redistricting that they are doing.
00:02:37.000 They are cheating by changing polling locations so that our elders who are used to voting at the elementary school down the street
00:02:47.000 may go there on election day and find out it is no longer a polling place.
00:02:52.320 They are cheating by purging voter rolls.
00:02:55.460 So we say as leaders then to folks, not only must you register to vote,
00:03:00.100 check your voter registration status to make sure you haven't been purged from the rolls.
00:03:07.760 They're trying to take our tools, but we are a creative people.
00:03:13.500 And we know how to fight.
00:03:15.720 And we have always been fighting against the odds, and that has never deterred us.
00:03:23.560 OK, so I thought her comments about Republicans taking the tools the Democrats have used for 50 years was interesting.
00:03:33.980 I thought her saying they're they're cheating by purging voter rolls was interesting.
00:03:39.260 And then telling people the Save America Act was violating their voter rights.
00:03:44.440 Your thoughts on what the former vice president shared.
00:03:48.260 Well, number one, it's politics as usual.
00:03:51.580 Number two, when it's politics, their lips are moving, they're lying.
00:03:54.980 Number three, it is pushing off to the other party exactly what that one party does.
00:04:00.060 So let's kind of crack this back.
00:04:03.300 Number one, this is classic victimology.
00:04:07.680 And you've got to get people enraged.
00:04:10.400 They're hoping the enragement that you're losing your vote and they're discriminating against your melanin is going to take apathetic voters who are tired of the system on both sides of the aisle and is going to get them off center and get them out to vote.
00:04:25.900 It's basically rage baiting of a different form.
00:04:29.400 The next part of it, by saying voter rolls, purging voter rolls is illegal.
00:04:34.860 The reality is our voter rolls are broken.
00:04:38.080 They're inflated.
00:04:39.220 well over 20 million, pushing 30 million, bad voters on the voter rolls. And that's everything
00:04:46.280 from dead to non-existent to illegals and otherwise. They've told us for years they weren't 0.72
00:04:52.240 there. We've known they're there. And now you see that's what President Trump is focusing on.
00:04:57.460 But again, it has to have the fear element. You're going to show up and you're not going to be able
00:05:02.660 to vote because you're not going to be on the voter rolls. Then she dropped that little bit
00:05:07.120 of ditty about they're going to move your polling locations. Let's just take these and unpack it.
00:05:12.800 In 2020, in Georgia, I'll use Fulton County, Georgia, almost every single polling location
00:05:21.320 in predominantly white neighborhoods moved over two miles. The very thing she talks about for 0.94
00:05:30.800 older citizens to go vote, and they're used to going down to the local elementary school, 0.68
00:05:36.460 They moved them. They moved them in the name of COVID. They didn't reduce the numbers.
00:05:41.800 They just basically somehow found safer locations where the pandemic doesn't hang out. I don't know.
00:05:49.400 But that's exactly a tactic that was used. And it's used by precincts, by district, depending upon who's in power.
00:05:57.720 It's done. Both sides have done it. On the other side of it, when they talk about gerrymandering and you you have these counties that run like little blood veins.
00:06:06.040 into stretching other parts.
00:06:08.900 That's just basically, it qualifies for government dollars.
00:06:12.740 It qualifies for additional campaigning dollars and allotment.
00:06:16.180 And basically lets them say, no, this is really what we represent.
00:06:19.680 It's part of the rig that is the census.
00:06:21.760 I don't believe any of the census numbers are true.
00:06:24.400 What she actually did is made an admission. 0.94
00:06:26.760 It's a true admission.
00:06:28.000 They're taking our tools.
00:06:29.760 They're taking our tools that we have relied on, that nobody's audited,
00:06:34.700 nobody's paid attention to, nobody really looked at.
00:06:38.260 And by the way, it is, in fact, something we use to win elections,
00:06:43.960 and we're upset about it.
00:06:46.520 I don't know why she's worried about the SAVE Act.
00:06:48.740 It ain't going through, and it really doesn't change a thing.
00:06:51.620 But she's talking to an audience that has bought victimology for a long time,
00:06:57.080 but every one of these people that line up for benefits,
00:06:59.360 And some of these underserved, granted, and not economically prosperous communities, they still have to present their IDs to get their checks, to get their groceries, to get their free items, to qualify for their electric bill, still has to fill out the paperwork, still has to show up, still has to have that ID to show who they are.
00:07:21.340 But it's only when it's voting that it's racist. I think the world is beginning to see through these pre-packaged lies that it's not them representing a people.
00:07:34.520 It's them insulting a people and trying to anger them so they can stay in power and control them.
00:07:40.000 that's interesting that they insult them but say it was somebody behind them that was doing it and
00:07:51.300 they're just standing in the way or or bringing it to their attention um yeah when she said uh
00:07:58.180 the tools that we've used for 50 years i just made a little list here uh bloated voter rolls
00:08:04.340 uh lawsuits to keep those bloated voter rolls bloated correct people illegal names going on
00:08:12.340 whether those are actually voted or somebody's voting that but then you can't get to it because
00:08:17.520 they then shut it down with lawsuits right um gerrymandering they are the experts at gerrymandering
00:08:24.460 yet we get a few areas and and then they realize oh wait they're on to our game right racism and
00:08:31.040 race baiting, flooding the country with illegals and then incentivizing people to stay poor because
00:08:37.540 the government will take care of you or illegals to come here because you can live off of the 0.84
00:08:43.160 efforts and the money of the taxpayer and the American worker. Are there any other tools in 0.98
00:08:50.040 the last 50 years that they've used that I've missed? No, you've caught them all. And basically
00:08:55.260 it's enslavement. When you when you look at exactly what it is, you're still beholding to
00:08:59.760 a slave master, they still control you. But what they do is they manipulate the rules. I'll give
00:09:04.460 you an example. And I'll use Maricopa, because it's the one that's only ever done a full forensic
00:09:10.040 audit that certified this stuff. They will mail out a ballot, because they're 80% mail-in ballots.
00:09:16.180 So mail out a ballot to a voter, supposedly on the rolls. That ballot will come back
00:09:23.700 with a five done. No such person, no such address, address unknown, undeliverable or deceased. Those
00:09:32.880 are basically the five done. When that comes back to the voting commission, what they do is they're
00:09:39.980 obligated by law to notify the voter that, hey, your ballot came back and you need to fix this.
00:09:46.840 So what do they do? Now, the post office telling you nobody's there, no such number.
00:09:51.660 The county generates a postcard, sends a postcard back to that same address.
00:09:58.020 Now, invariably, that postcard comes back.
00:10:00.300 But they don't want to discriminate against anybody.
00:10:03.180 And so when that one comes back, what they'll do is put it in a temporary hold that is allowed to be there and stay on the rolls for two general elections.
00:10:15.080 General elections.
00:10:16.320 They can stay there 13 years knowing the person's not there and they are not obligated to take it off the voter rolls.
00:10:24.900 Now you let somebody die. The moment somebody dies, especially if they're on Social Security, you ain't getting that Social Security check anymore.
00:10:31.360 In most cases, right? Tax office knows. Coroner knows. Maricopa County, they're literally next door.
00:10:37.720 They don't take the person off the voter roll.
00:10:40.260 They put the onus on the family.
00:10:43.140 You've got to remember to take them off the voter rolls. 1.00
00:10:47.380 Then let's just take illegals. 1.00
00:10:49.340 This is what I exposed a long time ago in Arizona. 0.97
00:10:53.680 They will take an illegal that comes across the border.
00:10:57.160 They make the illegal sign a piece of paper that says, I'm here to work.
00:11:01.840 I just need to take care of myself.
00:11:03.260 and they make them sign basically a promise to show up for court. Five years down the road,
00:11:09.060 by the way. What they do for that illegal is they give them, believe it or not, a social security
00:11:14.740 number, which is the validating piece that says you're an American citizen. They then, once they
00:11:21.420 give you that social number, because you promised to work, you promised to pay taxes, they tell you,
00:11:26.600 you must go get a valid United States ID. So what does that person do? They go down to motor voter.
00:11:33.260 Motor voter, basically, I need a driver's license.
00:11:37.880 They're going to do it in Spanish and whatever, Venezuela, whatever the case may be, right? 0.60
00:11:41.340 Whatever language, doesn't matter because it's not going to be English.
00:11:44.840 You're going to take a driving test.
00:11:46.360 You're going to pass.
00:11:47.700 They're going to say, show me your ID.
00:11:49.140 They're going to show a social security card.
00:11:51.740 They probably got an address that goes to a local church.
00:11:54.960 So when they do motor voter, it's an automatic drop.
00:11:58.300 You got registered to drive.
00:12:00.220 We automatically register you to vote.
00:12:03.260 the illegal has to uncheck the box that says, oh, I'm not legal, I can't vote. The box is
00:12:14.220 default, I'm legal, I can vote. No, they go worse. So now all of a sudden, when you get
00:12:20.280 your driver's license, they automatically drop you on the voter rolls. It's just about getting
00:12:23.920 the person there. It's not that this person is necessarily going to illegally vote. So what
00:12:28.920 happens? They generate an automatic voter registration card that says, hey, you're registered
00:12:34.300 vote. Now that goes to some bulk address, usually a church that's doing this, 30, 40,000. I've seen
00:12:41.360 tens of thousands at one location. But they wrote a new law that says if the illegal for any reason
00:12:47.120 thought they could legally vote, then in fact, if they do vote and they're illegal, it is not a
00:12:55.280 crime. Let me ask you a question. If you automatically get your voter registration
00:12:59.440 card because you got an ID, are you going to assume you can vote because they sent you a
00:13:03.900 voter registration? Yes. That's how the red works. Wow. Okay. So that answers a question because
00:13:09.980 I've been watching this gentleman. He's been down in Georgia and other places and he's going and
00:13:16.560 he's saying, listen, look at this piece of paper. There are 2000 people registered that say they
00:13:23.220 live at this Presbyterian church. Then he'll go to another. I've got 3,500 people that say that
00:13:30.000 they live and voted from this Catholic church. It's not necessarily the church that's rigging
00:13:38.700 this or something like that. It's literally, they're getting help from this place. They put
00:13:43.620 that as their address. The government system gives them the social security, registers them to drive
00:13:49.940 and vote. That's the address. And then we wonder why there's 10,000 people in Maricopa County 0.63
00:13:55.940 voting from a church address. Well, here's, here's, let's just take Maricopa since you brought
00:14:00.500 it up. It's not that there are 10,000 people voting from a church address. It's really a more,
00:14:05.560 a more simple hack than that. Predominantly, the illegals are not voting. 0.99
00:14:12.480 what maricopa does is it's automatic mail-in voting so they have 10 000 ballots basically
00:14:21.220 that's called a ballot packet it's the outside envelope official outside envelope there is an
00:14:27.120 official legal ballot inside there is a return secured envelope in it and that is mailed to that
00:14:34.940 address now if you go to these addresses you try to interview the people knowing 10 000 ballots
00:14:42.280 went there. Nobody's ever to say, well, we don't really know what happened to them. We gathered
00:14:46.540 them up, but we don't know what happened to them. Basically, it's a congregation of the
00:14:52.220 congregation of illegals. It's a congregation point. Now what you have is 10,000 legal ballots 0.98
00:15:00.720 that they pick these up, illegal operations. They'll do side rooms. They'll watch the totals, 0.94
00:15:10.440 understanding the numbers. Then this precedes to what's called a ballot cracking operation.
00:15:15.940 They crack open the legal ballot. They pull out the legal ballot from that envelope,
00:15:25.680 and now it has the security envelope. They vote it the way they need it to go. Because it went
00:15:31.460 to that location, it's already precinct specific, right? Or all over. They vote them how they want
00:15:38.220 them. They put them back in the security envelope. They scribble a signature because they don't do
00:15:42.800 signature checking anymore. That's what the ballot mules transport. They give them back to ballot 0.93
00:15:48.400 mules. That's why they take a picture because they dropped off 20. They get paid for dropping
00:15:52.380 off 20. That's why they go around to different locations to spread it out across the country.
00:15:57.720 It is an identifier. One of the other identifier hacks that have been on there for a long time
00:16:01.860 is you'll find, you can run the databases, you'll find people born in 1900. Obviously they're
00:16:07.500 to see it's just like on social security but in old databases before databases got smaller they
00:16:13.720 would know where the fat the fat is run me everybody in 1900 i know what i can use they'll
00:16:18.500 run off the ballast they'll use them they're insert them it's all data hooks and so in that
00:16:23.180 scenario they're using a data hook but they're also blatantly violating law give you another
00:16:27.800 example from maricopa that we found liz harris found there in the canvas for 2020 etc you'll
00:16:34.020 have a place where 2,000 people are registered to vote. The county will tell you that's for the
00:16:39.760 homeless people. You go to that address, there is no mailbox. There is no Dropbox. It's an empty
00:16:46.280 field. But the post person actually breaks the law because they take those ballots and they go down
00:16:53.260 the road a few miles to an NGO, right, one of these nonprofits, they'll drop them off there for
00:16:58.400 pickup. Well, technically, that's
00:17:00.340 against the law. And once
00:17:02.380 these things get in the wash, because when
00:17:04.380 you separate the envelope from the ballot, you can
00:17:06.400 never tell who voted it. That's how
00:17:08.380 they hide it under the radar.
00:17:10.480 And so this is spread out amongst
00:17:12.420 many things. I've found two
00:17:14.280 bedroom trailers with 49
00:17:16.200 people registered
00:17:18.060 voting from that
00:17:20.440 same trailer.
00:17:23.020 Wow.
00:17:24.380 Or 80 people voting from a
00:17:26.300 same Mexican restaurant.
00:17:28.400 or 21 people voting from the local 7-Eleven.
00:17:33.380 There's a bounty, there's an underground bounty system.
00:17:36.440 They spread it out.
00:17:37.520 Some of them do intentionally.
00:17:39.380 I've seen a woman and her husband live in a home for 40 years,
00:17:43.500 but somehow there's 13, 14 people registered.
00:17:46.120 They keep on returning it back.
00:17:47.540 They aren't here, but the county refuses to take them off.
00:17:50.460 Why?
00:17:50.740 Because if the post people can intercept them, they get money.
00:17:53.560 I've heard they'll pay 20, 30, 40, 50, up to $1,000 a ballot
00:17:57.740 and bounties. They do them in gift cards to get those ballots back in because it comes down to
00:18:02.640 very close races. That's how they get them back to them. And gangs, entire criminal gangs,
00:18:08.840 during these places with mail-in ballots, it's going to happen in the midterms already out,
00:18:14.320 they're going to go start robbing the ballots from the mailboxes. Why? Because they get paid
00:18:18.240 to bring that ballot packet in. Wow. Here in Utah, they just arrested a postman
00:18:26.360 who admitted that he dumped 300 mail-in ballots off somewhere because he just didn't want to
00:18:32.480 carry them anymore. And then they're like, well, where, where are the ballots? And he said, I don't
00:18:36.840 know. I just, I just didn't want to carry them anymore. He's going to jail, but I mean, that's,
00:18:41.180 that's pretty wild. Okay. A couple of thoughts that I just messaged myself. Okay. So was Trump's
00:18:48.120 executive order, ordering the U.S. Postal Service to have lists, check those lists,
00:18:56.480 what went out, what came back. The Supreme Court said it was legal and a good executive order,
00:19:03.580 but that he ran out of time. Was he trying to create a chain of custody or bypass this kind
00:19:10.540 of theft? What do you think he was trying to do there? Well, I know exactly what he's trying to
00:19:14.560 do. I'll explain to you how it works. And yes, the game is sue, stop, sue, stop, sue, stop to get
00:19:22.480 to the point that the time has run out. Why? You can't make any changes to the voter rolls 90 days
00:19:29.040 out. And the states have to have time to respond to administer their election. So you got to
00:19:33.640 go way in the back. First off, do you remember when we had a congressional mail scandal
00:19:39.480 that they found out Congress members and stuff were cheating on the mail and getting stamp money
00:19:46.780 and mail money and pocketing it. Do you happen to remember that scandal? No. Okay. So it's one
00:19:52.300 of the scandals that rocked the United States and actually implicated and indicted sitting
00:19:58.620 members of Congress and Senate. For a senator or for a congressperson to misappropriate the mail,
00:20:09.000 which is considered money, is a crime, a punishable crime. Now, let's back off a layer.
00:20:16.440 In the mailing of ballots for any county, that burden is split by the parties. It's not free.
00:20:27.440 Democrats pay for X or, you know, Republicans pay for X and it's divided by, you know,
00:20:32.120 House and Senate. That's where the money comes from, those pulled kitties. Well, what's going
00:20:38.600 on is you will find that balloteers, the people that print the ballots, are overprinting ballots.
00:20:46.760 What we're trying to audit, which I couldn't get a hold of in Arizona, they refused to give it over,
00:20:52.720 is if the county said they mailed 2,500,000 ballots, right, and it cost $1 to mail them,
00:21:03.580 what should the postage charge be? $2,500,000. And if it cost $1 for that ballot to come back,
00:21:11.820 meaning return mail, and all of them came back, let's say that's 2.5 million coming back, right?
00:21:18.720 So you can balance the books. Well, they refused to turn over those numbers. They withheld the
00:21:25.380 post office number remittance. They withheld the county remittance. Why? Because then you can audit
00:21:31.880 a money trail. You can audit. You can take that. You can audit against the ballot printer.
00:21:36.540 Is what they said real? Did what they really mail it real? Did it come in? Now, the issue is
00:21:43.060 there's obviously corruption going on underneath because they're overprinting ballots and
00:21:48.660 ballot packets. Now, if they know that 100,000 of them don't really need to be mailed, we just need
00:21:54.100 to get the ballots. Well, if they sent out 2.4 million, but they claimed it was 2.5, you catch
00:21:58.980 it real easy. You understand what I'm saying? Well, one of the things that happened since the
00:22:03.620 2020s is you're finding out, oops, we mailed ballots. There was a boo-boo on it. We got to
00:22:08.300 reprint them. We got to send new ones. The system doesn't know the difference between the bad ballot
00:22:13.640 and the good ballot. All they did was get more ballots out. Now, in Maricopa, we discovered
00:22:19.620 during the audit that supposedly, and I'm rounding here, that when they said they mailed four Maricopa
00:22:25.880 only, 2.5 million ballots, the problem is the print records show they printed 4,089,000.
00:22:35.760 Now, what the president did is, when you understand how these mechanisms work,
00:22:41.220 in order to get a crime to stick.
00:22:45.060 This is all about enforcement. 0.99
00:22:46.940 Everything on the machines, Venezuela, Serbia, China, Dominion, it's all crap.
00:22:52.500 It's not enforceable because 100% of our rules are voluntary.
00:22:56.620 You comply if you want to.
00:22:58.060 It's not a crime not to.
00:22:59.560 But when it comes to mail, it has very specific crimes associated with you.
00:23:05.800 If you misappropriate the money, here's where it comes in.
00:23:08.400 We have in the United States this thing called election mail. It's a specific rate class for elections. It's how the United States Post Office is able to say we mailed this many election ballots. It's a tracking system.
00:23:27.140 So what the president did is basically hooked election mail because it's ballots, not machines.
00:23:35.500 He said, OK, we got election mail and it has a unique postal code on it.
00:23:41.680 All he said was, in order to have that election mail expensed and done, you, the state, has to submit your voter rolls and say under a testament.
00:23:55.860 We basically say this is a legal voter.
00:23:59.620 They're real.
00:24:00.340 They're here.
00:24:01.140 They're valid.
00:24:02.140 They're alive.
00:24:03.080 We scrubbed the rolls.
00:24:04.080 We've done our job.
00:24:05.760 See, the problem is two things.
00:24:07.500 The problem is if they turn over the rolls, which they refuse to do, you can't find it.
00:24:13.360 But what the mechanism was designed to do is withhold the mailing because it forces the lawmakers to attest to it.
00:24:20.560 then every single lawmaker's on the hook because both sides of the House in each state attested
00:24:26.360 this is valid. It puts every one of them on the line illegally as soon as the moment the numbers
00:24:31.060 are off. It was a very brilliant move to basically create an auditable feature and tie it to the
00:24:38.340 voter rolls where it should be tied. It was done right. It was done legally. The post office has
00:24:44.140 the right to do it. The president has the right to do it. But what the system did was game the clock
00:24:50.180 kicking the can because then they finally say, oh, wait, the midterms are here. We're not going
00:24:55.420 to be able to process ballots. We want to comply, but we've got to focus on getting these out. Now
00:24:59.620 the clock is expired and it goes away. That's the game. So if they've lost that quarter of the game,
00:25:08.600 as soon as the midterms are done, shouldn't Trump's solicitor or somebody jump right back
00:25:14.120 in with SCOTUS? Because they said everything's good and legal. You've just ran out of time.
00:25:18.460 OK, now we have 24 months before the next election or 20, you know, 20, 21 months before the next election and minus 90 days.
00:25:27.240 They should, but that's not going to be the battle.
00:25:30.660 What will be the new battle? 0.97
00:25:32.240 We're going to get our butts kicked in the midterms.
00:25:34.880 We're going to lose seats all over the place.
00:25:37.540 And it's going to give them the right to now start talking about basically prosecuting President Trump again, which they said they're going to try to impeach him.
00:25:46.320 That's going to take every hands on deck to fight that.
00:25:49.080 They're not going to worry about what happened in the election because you can't undo it now because it's already done.
00:25:57.980 Yeah.
00:25:58.560 Let me let me give you an example.
00:26:00.620 Yeah.
00:26:01.200 In election integrity itself.
00:26:05.900 This is so bad.
00:26:06.960 I can sit either face to face or side by side with President Trump going over every bit of this.
00:26:14.640 And I've got his advisors listening
00:26:17.360 And I'm saying, we've got to do this
00:26:19.880 We've got to eliminate the voter rolls
00:26:21.660 We've got to do this maneuver
00:26:22.820 Here's how it works on the voter rolls
00:26:24.140 And over my shoulder, somebody who said
00:26:26.660 We're told that don't bother with the voter rolls
00:26:30.860 Because they'll just put them back on
00:26:32.300 And I will turn around
00:26:34.560 I turn around, real story
00:26:35.440 And I said, this is me 1.00
00:26:37.340 Because I said, who in the hell told you that crap? 1.00
00:26:40.500 Right? 1.00
00:26:41.320 Oh, we heard it from people on election integrity
00:26:44.540 and Michael Lindell's team, don't bother with voter roll, let's put them back on. That's how
00:26:48.500 bad this is and how high this goes. That was a conversation that gave us 3.9 years to clean
00:26:58.140 the voter rolls when we could have had it all done. It got stopped in its tracks because at
00:27:03.280 the election integrity, putting people on the road speaking level, it got all the way up to
00:27:07.800 the White House advisor saying, we can't really do that. They'll just put them back on. So it's
00:27:11.360 futile, it's sweeping a dirt floor. That's how nasty and how horrible this game is played. Now,
00:27:17.260 President Trump's a very smart man. He knows what's up. That's why you see him. He's fighting
00:27:22.060 the mail-in ballots. He's fighting on the voter rolls and turn it over. But you hear everybody
00:27:26.460 else there promoting Serbia, Croatia, China. It's the machines. It's all not enforceable by law. 0.77
00:27:33.400 It doesn't matter. You can't put somebody in jail in the United States of America for what they did
00:27:38.660 for an election in Venezuela 10 years ago. It's horse hockey.
00:27:43.340 Okay, so this is why he went after the Postal Service.
00:27:47.820 He's using the tools that afford prosecution to stop it. Everything else is just fluff.
00:27:54.640 And I'm assuming this is why after the election, data showed that there were
00:28:00.860 way more ballots in many counties than there were adults that could even vote?
00:28:06.100 it's yes and no you got to be very careful on those numbers because a lot of people are reading
00:28:12.720 things on it where they really don't have the right numbers like a lot of people telling you
00:28:17.140 i saw the vote change on tv that's that's polling data that's not certified canvas data but they
00:28:23.640 claim we saw them vote and swap it's all a con you got to be very very careful about it you can't do
00:28:28.540 it on averages. You have to do it on actual numbers. The bottom line is if they printed
00:28:36.120 more ballots than they actually have physical numbers on the voter rolls, that's a flag issue
00:28:46.380 you should look at. You cannot say they printed more ballots, and when we run an algorithm based
00:28:52.780 on people that are eligible to vote in the Classical Order this age, we think it should have
00:28:57.300 many, this many, and it's far less. That doesn't stick in court, will never stick in court,
00:29:02.040 and it's not empirical data, period. It's based 100% on the voter rolls. You've got to be able
00:29:09.640 to show they printed this many, and this is not how many people of age or could vote statistically,
00:29:15.220 means nothing in court. Here's exactly what the voter rolls say. Now, the catch is, I believe,
00:29:20.340 the counties, maintain separate books. I've pushed and pushed and pushed for this audit.
00:29:28.440 This was what part of what the president was writing in, which you just realize in the mail.
00:29:33.240 Let me give you an example. I told them, you know, we got this ERIC system, right? Electronic
00:29:39.340 Registration Information Center magically going to clean the rolls. I believe when people come
00:29:45.520 into audit and they ask for the roles we actually get the eric one which is clean
00:29:50.840 but nobody's ever audited let me see eric let me see the county let me see the version
00:29:59.080 the ballot printer used okay and what they're doing is they're cooking the books using different
00:30:05.420 databases while they misdirect everybody that's how deep this is dang
00:30:12.340 it's kind of it hits you in the head like a ton of bricks when you when you realize the difference
00:30:18.460 we don't ask those questions we don't demand audits we don't demand exactly how many did
00:30:25.180 you mail how many did you print how many did you mail how many did you deliver how many got
00:30:31.600 screwed up that you trashed show me everyone you trashed show me the mail for everyone you mailed
00:30:36.780 i want to see the receipt i want to show everyone that came back and they better check we don't even 0.60
00:30:41.120 do that. That's contract law. But yet, we don't write contracts for it.
00:30:50.700 Well, 80% of this, 85% of the problems we have are fixable with proper contract law. We don't
00:30:57.380 need new laws from the books. We don't need any of it. We have everything we need.
00:31:00.360 Let me ask you this, Jovan.
00:31:08.940 Sheriff Mark Lamb of Arizona said something really interesting.
00:31:13.620 He said, right after President Trump shut down USAID and took away the free taxpayer money to fake NGOs and fake charities,
00:31:24.880 suddenly Democrats can't raise enough money for this election.
00:31:29.720 yet they're predicted to win let me show you in the audience this and then i want to talk about
00:31:35.080 that with you no law enforcement call this a clue when when uh usa id and all these uh ngos were
00:31:42.960 defunded because of the fraud and other stuff and the usa id going down all of a sudden democrats
00:31:48.480 aren't raising as much money now oh you notice and then they try to then they try to tell you
00:31:53.360 in the same breath that there is no illegals voting yet we consistently like secretary mullen
00:31:58.500 says, not only was there 1,600 that were arrested, there's 300,000 cases they still need to
00:32:03.700 investigate. And look no further than our own government, the Senate, who says, we don't want
00:32:09.120 to sign, we don't want to approve the Save America Act, because they know that it's going to stop 0.88
00:32:15.080 illegals from voting. Not just that, they didn't even want to allow President Trump to go through 0.73
00:32:20.840 the post office and say the post office needs to, which I think is totally correct, to ensure that 0.95
00:32:26.100 A ballot goes out to an actual registered voter citizen of this country, not illegals. 0.94
00:32:33.780 And yet they continue to defend and fight against that. 0.97
00:32:37.100 So they're complicit as politicians, and we need to get them all out of there.
00:32:42.040 We should tar and feather them like in the old days so they learn a valuable lesson.
00:32:45.820 Some of that you and I have already talked about in the first part of the show.
00:32:49.260 But do you think that there's any coincidence between they come in, they shut down USAID,
00:32:55.120 all of these places that are receiving money to bring in illegals and and and then get routed through a dozen different LLCs or charities or NGOs.
00:33:07.880 And now suddenly the Democrats have a fraction of the money that they've had in the past for election.
00:33:14.440 Any coincidence? Well, let me let me throw some things at you.
00:33:17.340 I'm going to turn the tables on you. I'm going to throw you some facts.
00:33:19.880 You tell me if you think they're coincidence.
00:33:22.460 Secretary of State Marco Rubio came out July 1st, 2025, and said, we're shutting off and shutting down USAID.
00:33:28.640 It was basically shut down.
00:33:31.080 Now, a few things happened.
00:33:32.660 People stopped showing up at the border.
00:33:36.340 We stopped having large migrant caravans. 0.99
00:33:39.500 That stopped.
00:33:41.200 Secondly, yes, the Democrats are hurting and running out of money.
00:33:44.720 You got to ask yourself if that's a coincidence.
00:33:47.760 Then you got a few other things that coincide with it. 0.96
00:33:50.600 One, for the first time in 40 years since the Bush administration, when it popped up on the radar, this thing called rap music, which talks about white people bad, shoot everybody, kill the police, foe the police, all that other stuff. 0.92
00:34:10.340 the very first time. At the same time, multiple charts, RAP didn't even appear in the top 40.
00:34:19.060 Has never happened ever since it was introduced. All of a sudden, all of them fall from grace. And
00:34:25.440 by the way, the number one that was going on at the time, Lamar Kendrick or whatever it was,
00:34:29.880 I don't follow it. He'd been 13 weeks in a row as number one. And all of a sudden,
00:34:35.080 the money's gone, boom, it doesn't even rank in the top 100. Oh, and then at the same time,
00:34:43.080 MSNBC collapses, Joy Reid's gone, all of these people that were being paid to spew this hate
00:34:50.280 and support it, exporting culture, how bad America is this, all of them all of a sudden
00:34:55.180 lose their precious TV contracts. All of those things happen at the same time. Now, is that a
00:35:01.840 coincidence? I think that it is. At the same time, they shut down ActBlue, and all of a sudden,
00:35:11.700 you don't have all this money pouring in through ActBlue from foreign people and billionaires.
00:35:17.140 And bogus accounts, bogus accounts funding in. It's no different than a Russian operation 0.51
00:35:22.740 stealing one or two dollars from an account in a year. You don't see it. They're just cycling
00:35:26.460 money through your account and you're not watching it, but it happened. Yes, all of these things,
00:35:32.480 they are not coincidences. What happens is if you look at it in a court of law,
00:35:38.940 we have the scales of justice, which is called bopping, the balance of probabilities.
00:35:46.760 You put all the evidence in, 50-50, can't make a decision. If it tips one way, it has tipped
00:35:53.820 what's called BOP, the balance of probabilities. Well, the interesting thing happens when it comes
00:35:59.840 to coincidences, too. When you look at all of those were known through different ways to get
00:36:05.360 USAID money, and all of a sudden you have these big cultural shifts, the very one that we're
00:36:11.300 exporting, hate the police, white supremacists, your colony, all that, but all of them stop at
00:36:16.860 basically the same time, it becomes the overwhelming amount of coincidences and
00:36:26.080 themselves become the confirming evidence that on balance of probabilities, we were being played.
00:36:35.580 That's how I see it, too. That's how I see it, too. And, you know, Act Blue was brought in before
00:36:41.220 congress they pled the fit every every single person that was brought in pled the fifth on
00:36:46.580 every single thing and then it seems to go away jim jordan says it's not going away there's still
00:36:52.100 stuff going on behind the scenes i just well no no he's gonna send i heard he's got a fourth
00:36:57.780 killer incredibly strongly worded letter he's gonna send and i have it on good authority i'm
00:37:05.320 telling you this fourth one this fourth one is supposed to be a doozy it got expanded to four
00:37:10.880 paragraphs normally he uses too it is going to be a doozy of words and he's going to send it
00:37:16.300 i i get so sick of these strong letters like
00:37:21.600 where i want the arrests i want the arrests i mean we see it it's like being gas lit in real time
00:37:30.340 you cut off the money all of gas lit in fire they're not only throwing the gas at us their
00:37:35.900 lightness on fire and laughing at us so so then my i guess question would be you know democrats
00:37:46.680 are wildly unpopular yes they have no good leadership they have no good ideas their their
00:37:52.780 tools to cheat for 50 years are being pulled out from under them and yet they are predicted to to
00:38:00.260 win even before the gas prices went high even before the diesel you gotta you gotta look you
00:38:05.640 got to look at both. You got to look at the synchronous movement, the synchronous movement.
00:38:14.520 It's a true thing in spiritual warfare that evil has to tell you first, because if you don't push
00:38:19.240 back on it, you're basically giving them approval to do it. If you're spiritual and faith, it's just
00:38:25.380 a true fact, but you're only looking at one side of the equation. The very same time when they're
00:38:33.020 underfunded, undermanned, destructive, horrible against America. Everybody knows it.
00:38:41.680 They're promoting, we're going to win. We're going to sweep it. We're going to do it. We're
00:38:44.720 going to prosecute Trump to the fullest. What do you see going on at the right? You see top
00:38:50.160 patriot podcasters now coming out. Trump's owned by Israel. Trump's not doing a good job. Trump is 0.83
00:38:58.140 horrible. This is bad. Gas, gas, gas. This is bad. That's the collusion. It is the left bragging 1.00
00:39:06.960 because they know what's coming and the right that is in on it, providing the cover story.
00:39:12.280 So when it happens, they can say, we told you people didn't like President Trump.
00:39:19.000 It is the same party, the same thing. And that's why you see so many people
00:39:24.640 that you swore were for this nation
00:39:27.620 and knew we were doing good under President Trump,
00:39:32.180 now turning on President Trump,
00:39:33.680 oh, he's made a wrong decision here,
00:39:35.260 oh, he's made a wrong decision,
00:39:36.580 or oh, he's doing this, and I don't agree with it.
00:39:39.700 It's a con, a total con.
00:39:42.700 It's psychological warfare messaging,
00:39:45.080 getting your brain ready to keep you docile
00:39:47.940 for what's coming.
00:39:49.880 Okay, that was my last question,
00:39:52.340 was are we going to be docile and distracted enough that they say we can cheat and no one's
00:39:58.500 even going to question it um you and i because we both sit behind the cameras and microphone
00:40:17.560 own. We have a responsibility to our fellow mankind if we're ethically moral, that we just
00:40:28.520 don't fill people's head with craps, right? We don't do it. Why? Because we do what we do because
00:40:34.740 we need America to survive. It's the greatest nation on the planet. It's for America. It's
00:40:39.540 not by left side, right side, or whatever the case may be. The system has glided along on a con.
00:40:45.500 Now, I can use another great example from recent history of the Maricopa audit. We were the first time in American history we got the full ballots to look at, the physical ballots to document them all.
00:40:57.500 However, the GOP filed 72 lawsuits to get those ballots from other places, 12 hours before the statute of limitations expired. 0.92
00:41:10.580 The freaking summons, right?
00:41:14.060 The service wasn't even done yet, and it expired. 0.89
00:41:17.720 But the GOP said, we filed all these lawsuits, all play acting.
00:41:21.300 I believe the system is so entrenched and so grifting, and everybody's got involved with it and got their tentacles in it, that everybody's afraid to make a move, and then they actually look at themselves as rulers.
00:41:36.940 But that is never going to change if the people in your position and in my position behind cameras and microphones don't take a stand and stop blowing this smoke up and participating in it and tell the people actually how to respond.
00:41:56.980 We're not getting justice because they misdirect us on what we should be outraged about.
00:42:06.740 Mess with the ballot, the physical ballot, what you see prosecution going on right now,
00:42:11.340 like that postman.
00:42:12.320 You screw with the ballot, you're going to jail.
00:42:15.000 But what does the system continually push on you?
00:42:18.900 It's Venezuela.
00:42:20.200 It's Serbia. 0.85
00:42:21.260 It's the machines. 0.86
00:42:22.360 100% of those rules are voluntary.
00:42:25.420 You mess with a million ballots on the machine, a million votes on the machine.
00:42:29.260 It's a misdemeanor with a thousand dollar fine.
00:42:31.860 You do it in the ballot sphere and you mess with a million ballots. It's one million state felonies, one million federal felonies individual. The system is educating us on the wrong things. And now we have what I call we got we got good podcasters like yourself that try to get the truth out.
00:42:51.540 But then we have the regurgicasters, the fraudcasters, the doomcasters, and it's all about the clicks versus here's what America really needs to know.
00:43:01.780 None of this is going to change until you, the American citizen, audit yourself.
00:43:10.980 Here's what I mean.
00:43:12.160 If you go back in time and you believe that we had super secret satellite encoded signals in the ballots in 2020 and President Trump was still the president and had them all, and you still listen to those same people and you still go to that, it was the Pope's satellite that went to Italy, and you haven't cleaned your own house, you're part of the problem.
00:43:36.780 Let me tell you why you still follow. You might not even follow account, but you're still following
00:43:41.160 it. And that way, every time your friend comes across that account, they see your name followed
00:43:46.380 by this and they go, oh, that's a good person. She's my friend. I trust her. Well, you're still
00:43:50.640 giving those people your good name. Why? Because you won't yourself audit yourself. Take a look at
00:43:58.480 who you followed, why you followed them, call them out on the crap they did and decide to have the 0.97
00:44:05.480 type of personal fortitude President Trump has and cut them off because they're trading on your 0.99
00:44:10.840 good name every damn day out there that other people pass by. You never see. It's just your 0.95
00:44:16.540 thousands on your friend list. But if they pass by that person, that broadcaster, that doomcaster,
00:44:21.320 that broadcaster, oh, it's followed by my friend. I should follow them. Until we take responsibility
00:44:25.920 for ourselves, until we realize it's only when you get in the weeds and the deep facts of people
00:44:31.780 that really do it. Well, you will learn. But you know what? A lot of people out there trust their
00:44:35.860 favorite hot dog vending guy to give them the geopolitical stance of what's going on in this
00:44:41.360 world. The problem's us. We enable the system. We pay the system. We pay for the clicks. We pay for
00:44:49.480 the engagement. We pay the taxes. And we don't expect great things of ourselves. We change that.
00:44:54.740 We'll win this. We don't. They're going to keep on taking advantage of us.
00:44:57.720 Wow, that's good advice. I never thought about it that way, but I probably am contributing to that as well. So I'm going to audit myself. Okay, final question. I appreciate your time. I know how valuable it is.
00:45:10.300 Well, can I use an analogy for you?
00:45:13.440 Yes, go ahead.
00:45:14.620 You are one of the very few people out there, this coming from me, that I trust as a human, that I also trust as a broadcaster, because I feel I know you and I know where you come from.
00:45:27.720 that from you comes through your camera to the people because they see,
00:45:34.040 I look, I'm, I'm red faced. I can be loud or whatever.
00:45:36.420 You're nice, calm and mellow, right? 1.00
00:45:38.460 I look like I want to kick their ass. They love you to death. 1.00
00:45:41.480 You understand what I'm saying?
00:45:43.260 And so you carry an amazing imprimatur weight of credibility.
00:45:49.020 But if you yourself go back and look at some of your social media,
00:45:54.820 whether it be YouTube or X or whatever,
00:45:56.720 and you're following the people that were saying it was a CIA operation and the president Trump's
00:46:01.460 really always been the president was this. You never think about it. You're off and gone.
00:46:06.740 But all these people that see you. And all of a sudden they're coming across X and they see that
00:46:13.360 Stephen Gardner follows this guy. What do they think? This guy must be the real deal. What do
00:46:17.520 they do? Boom, follow. You've got them in a trap because they're trading off you and our bad
00:46:23.040 hygiene, social hygiene habits does lifting for a lot of the others, these other people that don't
00:46:30.500 deserve it. And so there's personal hygiene on social media, because we live in a chaos engine
00:46:35.280 and what they're trading is emotions. We got to cut it off. We got to stop it. And it begins with
00:46:41.040 us having high standards. This is why I love having you on. You always make me think so deeply.
00:46:50.760 Um, okay. The, the final question that I was going to ask is, um, how can people follow you?
00:46:59.420 Look for the, look for the little burnt flame trail going down the road. No,
00:47:02.960 use my full name hashtag. Let me explain what a hashtags for. When you go to a search engine
00:47:11.820 and you put in Jovan Hutton Pulitzer, you're not only going to find all the crap they read about me,
00:47:17.340 but you're going to find every Jovan. You're going to find every Hutton. You're going to find every
00:47:20.080 Pulitzer derivative. When you push it together with no spaces and you put that hashtag, that pound
00:47:26.220 signed in front of it, it's like GPS laser for the internet. So the best way to find me and where I
00:47:33.360 am, any search engine, use my full name on social media, but in any search engine, put hashtag
00:47:38.920 Jovan Hutton Pulitzer all together, hit it. You will see just me, only me, all my social media,
00:47:45.240 and you can find me anywhere.
00:47:47.620 But I'm on Rumble.
00:47:48.940 I consider it my anchor video.
00:47:51.480 Why?
00:47:51.740 Because YouTube took 259,000 of my subscribers
00:47:54.980 and threw them in the toilet
00:47:56.460 because they didn't like what I was talking about.
00:47:58.960 Rumble didn't do that.
00:48:00.180 So it's just rumble.com forward slash Jovan Hutton Pulitzer.
00:48:04.540 And for the ones that can't handle that many letters,
00:48:07.020 it's Jovan H Pulitzer.
00:48:09.880 You'll find me.
00:48:11.460 Okay.
00:48:11.860 I'm also going to just put a direct link
00:48:13.760 so that people can find you.
00:48:15.420 Thank you very much for what you do.
00:48:17.700 I consider you a patriot for America.
00:48:21.500 Thank you very much.
00:48:22.380 I'm going to put that down
00:48:23.680 and then we will have you on again in the future.
00:48:26.240 I'm in.