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00:01:14.940 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs and welcome to The Great America Show. Great to have you with us.

00:01:23.520 More developments today in the House Oversight Committee's investigation of President Biden.

00:01:28.640 Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer revealing the committee discovered a $40,000 check

00:01:34.000 that President Biden's brother sent to Joe after the money had been laundered from money

00:01:39.580 the crime family received from China. Here's Chairman Comer. 0.53

00:01:43.760 Not only did he lie about his son Hunter making money in China, but it also turns out that $40,000

00:01:49.660 in laundered China money landed in Joe Biden's bank account in the form of a personal check.

00:01:56.080 And the Oversight Committee has it. Here's how Joe Biden benefited from his family's shady deal with

00:02:01.860 CEFC, a Chinese Communist Party-linked company. It all began with a shakedown in the summer of 2017,

00:02:08.720 when Hunter Biden sent a message to his CEFC associate demanding a $10 million capital payment.

00:02:15.620 As Hunter Biden extorted this associate, Hunter claimed he was sitting with his father

00:02:20.820 and that the Biden network would turn on his associate if he didn't pony up the money.

00:02:26.240 The extortion scheme worked. Days later, $5 million flowed in from a Chinese affiliate of CEFC.

00:02:32.720 Over the following three weeks, Biden family members made a series of complicated financial

00:02:39.900 transactions to hide the source of the China money.

00:02:43.620 This is the second personal check to Joe Biden that Comer's committee has uncovered so far.

00:02:49.600 Earlier this month, they found a $200,000 check sent from James to Joe Biden. The check to Joe was

00:02:56.220 on the same day that James received a $200,000 transfer from troubled rural hospital company

00:03:03.320 AmeriCorps by pledging to use his political connections to secure a Middle East investor.

00:03:09.740 More sketchy Biden foreign business dealings. FBI Director Christopher Wray on Capitol Hill this week,

00:03:16.280 taking a much-needed break from terrorizing President Trump and his supporters

00:03:20.400 to talk about real terrorism and terrorists, Hamas. Wray issued a warning in his threats to the

00:03:26.840 Homeland Senate testimony, warning that Hamas and other foreign terrorist organizations could use

00:03:33.420 the ongoing Israel-Hamas conflict as a pretext to conduct attacks here in America.

00:03:40.300 But as I said a few moments ago, on top of the homegrown violent extremists and domestic violent

00:03:46.500 extremist threat, we also cannot and do not discount the possibility that Hamas or another 1.00

00:03:53.420 foreign terrorist organization may exploit the current conflict to conduct attacks here on our own soil.

00:04:01.420 We have kept our sights on Hamas and have multiple ongoing investigations into individuals

00:04:08.180 affiliated with that foreign terrorist organization.

00:04:11.660 It's nice to see the FBI Director addressing real terrorist threats, not some folks who just

00:04:17.720 protested a rigged election, or parents and grandparents defending their students at a school

00:04:23.140 board meeting. In a new analysis by the New York Post, billionaire and Marxist mega-donor George Soros

00:04:29.940 has reportedly given more than $15 million to anti-Israel, pro-Hamas protest organizations since 2016.

00:04:38.460 As I said yesterday, Soros is the root of much of the evil in American politics and much of the

00:04:44.920 world as well. The world's richest man, Elon Musk, and now probably America's second most

00:04:50.640 investigated behind President Trump, was on a podcast this week with Joe Rogan.

00:04:56.200 Elon calling out Soros for what he is. He said Soros fundamentally hates humanity and is doing all he

00:05:02.780 can to destroy Western civilization.

00:05:05.120 In my opinion, he fundamentally hates humanity. That's my opinion.

00:05:10.460 Really?

00:05:11.040 Yeah. I mean, well, he's doing things that erode the fabric of civilization. You know, getting

00:05:16.640 DAs elected who refuse to prosecute crime. That's part of the problem in San Francisco and LA and

00:05:22.480 much other cities. So why would you do that?

00:05:27.760 Was it humanity or is it just the United States as a whole?

00:05:30.960 I mean, he's pushing things in other countries too.

00:05:34.300 He's doing the same thing?

00:05:35.300 Yeah. Now, George at this point is pretty old. I mean, he's not, you know, he's basically a bit

00:05:45.700 senile at this point. But I mean, he's very smart. And he's very good at arbitrage. You know,

00:05:53.280 famously, he shorted the British pound. That's sort of how I think he made his first money

00:06:00.360 with shorting the pound. So he's good at spotting basically arbitrage, like spotting value for

00:06:06.700 money that other people don't see. So one of the things he noticed was that the value for money in

00:06:14.440 local races is much higher than it is in national races. So the lowest value for money is a presidential

00:06:21.400 race. Then next lowest value for money is a Senate race, then a Congress. But once you get to sort

00:06:28.300 of city and state district attorneys, the value for money is extremely good. And Soros realized that

00:06:36.380 you don't actually need to change the laws. You just need to change how they're enforced.

00:06:39.700 If nobody chooses to enforce the law or the laws are differentially enforced, it's like changing

00:06:45.380 laws. Welcome to the fight, Elon Musk. And joining us now, a man who stays in the fight,

00:06:51.260 the CEO of our country, our choice, Colonel Doug McGregor. Doug, great to have you with us here.

00:06:56.660 I want to first get your assessment where the conflict is right now in Gaza and its implications.

00:07:03.380 Well, I think we're at the beginning of what could potentially be a regional war for the moment.

00:07:08.720 Israel is focused primarily on Hamas and annihilating it. And sadly, it sounds like the population of

00:07:16.960 Gaza along with it. And at the same time, they've harnessed us to protect their northern border in the 0.97

00:07:24.460 event that Hezbollah attacks. So that far in advance, the Israelis have thought. But in truth,

00:07:32.240 it's growing very rapidly into a regional conflict. The Turks, the Iranians, all of the Muslim Arab 0.95

00:07:40.180 states reaching into North Africa, of course, with Egypt. In fact, I would argue that all the Muslim

00:07:46.860 states from Morocco to Indonesia are upset with what the Israelis are doing in Gaza because they see it

00:07:55.040 as disproportionate. And they also see it as a collective punishment. And they don't particularly

00:08:01.580 care for that. And I think that they're reaching the point where they're willing to take action

00:08:06.240 collectively against Israel.

00:08:08.160 I don't know that the nations that you just mentioned, the Muslim nations, their militaries

00:08:18.400 don't really add up to much in terms of if the United States is supporting Israel. And I want to take

00:08:27.000 that question up with you, just to what degree is this administration supporting Israel? But against

00:08:32.220 the firepower of just, say, the Eisenhower and Gerald Ford carrier strike groups, that's a lot of power,

00:08:42.220 as you well know. And I understand that amongst those nations, Turkey has the strongest military.

00:08:50.280 Well, it's actually more than Turkey. I think we grossly underestimate Iran. Iran has an enormous

00:08:56.080 arsenal of very sophisticated and accurate theater and tactical ballistic missiles, cruise missiles,

00:09:03.300 and also unmanned systems or drones. All of their theater ballistic missiles have a range of about

00:09:10.940 1,200 miles. This means that all of Israel is literally within the range of their forces.

00:09:18.900 They don't have much of a ground force, but they do have Shiite militias all over Iraq and

00:09:26.060 Syria that are obviously poised to contribute as needed, and obviously to attack us. 1.00

00:09:33.200 I think Turkey is probably the 500-pound gorilla in the room. They have an enormous army, and within a month, 0.98

00:09:40.540 month and a half, they could put 2 million men into the field. They have a very sizable naval force,

00:09:46.660 over 100 ships. Their submarines and the Israeli submarines are identical. They have German-built

00:09:53.840 diesel-electric submarines of very high quality, and they're almost undetectable in shallow water and

00:10:00.600 difficult to find in deep water. They do have cruise missiles, and of course, they have quite a fleet

00:10:06.240 of drones. They have one of the largest collection of drones, over 500 in one fleet of any country in

00:10:12.900 the world. And I think that we should keep in mind that Pakistan has made it very clear that if the 0.58

00:10:19.300 Turks need it, they will provide nuclear warheads to them that could be used to both deter Israel or 1.00

00:10:25.820 strike back at Israel as necessary. I don't think that I would write off the Egyptians. The Egyptians have a

00:10:32.980 large force. They're trying to bring three or four divisions up to full strength. They want to put

00:10:40.400 probably 200,000 men with equipment on the Egyptian border. And again, you know, General Sisi in Egypt

00:10:49.580 is not interested in a war, but he may not have much choice in the matter because his population is

00:10:55.540 enraged. And they want action taken to protect the Arab population of Gaza, which most of the Muslim

00:11:02.620 world sees as being systematically murdered by the Israelis. Whether or not that's true doesn't

00:11:08.440 matter. That's the way they see it. And I think, you know, the Saudis, the Emirates will certainly

00:11:13.940 support in whatever ways that they can. The Jordanians, obviously, are very much like the Egyptians.

00:11:19.740 They're not interested in a war, but they too may not have much choice because now

00:11:23.440 Palestinians in Jordan actually outnumber Jordanians. We haven't even talked about the

00:11:29.340 West Bank, which will probably erupt in a revolt against Israel. And then, of course, Syria and 0.66

00:11:36.620 Hezbollah. Hezbollah has 140,000 roughly missiles and rockets, of which about 40,000 are top of the line

00:11:43.980 and actually quite accurate. They could probably destroy the city of Haifa and certainly could destroy

00:11:50.580 any Israeli bases in the northern part of Israel. And then you have the air defense systems.

00:11:57.260 And while the air forces aren't impressive, the air defense systems are Russian. The S-400 operates

00:12:04.100 across Syria and Lebanon. That could easily be put into operation and that would shoot many of our 1.00

00:12:09.780 aircraft down. Then you have the S-300, which would also contribute to the air defense network.

00:12:16.260 And I think we need to understand there are about 90 aircraft on each of the carriers.

00:12:22.760 All 90 aircraft are not fighters that are designed to deliver ordinance on each one, perhaps 40 or 50,

00:12:30.640 excuse me, are designed for that purpose. And when you look at the sortie rate, that is the number of

00:12:36.220 aircraft they can launch and then recover. You're talking between the two carriers, perhaps 20 or 30

00:12:42.260 aircraft at a time. I don't know precisely where the carrier groups are located by, I suspect,

00:12:49.000 quite a distance from Israel. Because as you sail into the eastern Mediterranean, you're vulnerable

00:12:54.620 to all sorts of systems from the Turks, the Syrians, the Lebanese, the Hezbollah. And as a result, 0.85

00:13:02.500 that means that you've got to fly a long distance, deliver your ordinance, turn around and come back.

00:13:07.460 And we're not postured to refuel them, which means that many of them could have to land in Israel to

00:13:13.200 refuel. Landing in Israel, which is probably going to end up living under an almost constant rain of

00:13:19.660 rockets and missiles, can be problematic. Then, of course, you have cruise missiles that can be

00:13:24.680 launched, tomahawks, and they're going to have an impact. There's no question about it. But many of

00:13:29.900 those can be shot down. Those are not very fast. They're not hard to target. They're not hard to shoot

00:13:35.320 down. And those air defense systems that I mentioned have shot them down previously. 0.94

00:13:40.300 So I think that we overestimate the impact of the naval power. Now, I don't know what kind of Air

00:13:46.300 Force contribution there will be. I know we've moved some B-52s to the region. Where they are and how

00:13:53.040 they could be used is a question I can't answer. Each B-52 can drop 9,500-pound bombs. If you change

00:14:03.180 the load to have more accurate munitions, say 2,000-pound bombs, they'll carry fewer,

00:14:09.020 but they'll be accurate. But then again, the B-52s can also be shot down. I don't know about

00:14:14.360 the plan to use B-1 or B-2 bombers. And then finally, you have the Air Forces that are stationed

00:14:21.580 in the region. U.S. Air Forces, they're vulnerable. They're on airfields that are not well protected from

00:14:26.640 an air defense standpoint, which is why we're sending over air defense battalions as we speak

00:14:32.360 right now. How many of them are available and how they would be used? I don't know. But most of them

00:14:38.320 are designed to protect the forces that we have in Iraq and Syria. We have about 1,000 men up in the

00:14:44.020 northeast corner of Syria. And they're in a very vulnerable position, Lou. A friend of mine in the

00:14:50.280 building, I'm talking about the Pentagon, said, you know, Doug, they're in a position much like

00:14:55.480 Wake Island in 1942. They're too far away. We can't get to them quickly, and they could easily

00:15:01.860 be overrun. Now, who will do the overrunning? Will that be Shiite militias? Will it be Turkish forces? 0.65

00:15:08.300 If the Turks actually intervene directly, and I think they will. I don't know. And then, of course, 1.00

00:15:14.820 in Iraq, we have some forces as well as in the Gulf region. All of those are within range of various

00:15:20.000 Iranian weapon systems. So I think we have to be very careful. What we don't have that we 1.00

00:15:25.360 actually need, Lou, is an army. The United States Army is about 450,000. And most of the punch in the

00:15:34.080 U.S. Army, that's your mobile armored forces sitting in Poland, Lithuania, and down in Romania.

00:15:42.280 We're not going to be able to move them at all. If we do, it'll take us a long time to get them

00:15:47.060 somewhere, and we're not going to be able to move the munitions that go with them. That includes

00:15:50.700 artillery and tanks. So we're reliant almost exclusively on air and naval power. And to be

00:15:56.160 frank, Lou, I don't think the people ashore are all that concerned about those carrier battle groups.

00:16:01.680 They have never had a sustained impact. They look powerful. They sound powerful. But when it comes

00:16:07.140 to sustained impact on the ground, on land, not really. So I think it's a dangerously

00:16:15.080 slender thread from which to suspend U.S. national strategic interests. Frankly, I think we're

00:16:22.740 overwhelmed. This is not 1991. We don't have the forces we had in 91. We live in a very different

00:16:28.680 environment. And all of the Arab states have changed. Technology has changed. There are many 1.00

00:16:34.040 things they can do now that they could not do 50 years ago. They have populations that are actually

00:16:39.380 much better educated, that can master technologies that they couldn't master 50 years ago. So I think

00:16:45.400 the Israelis are in a very difficult position. And I think they ought to reconsider the wisdom of 1.00

00:16:51.660 pressing ahead in Gaza the way they're headed. We're talking with Doug McGregor, and we will be right 0.51

00:16:57.440 back. We have the foundation. Let's see what we can build here in terms of an outlook for an

00:17:04.980 excellent outcome for everyone involved. Israel, the United States, and the region. We'll be right

00:17:12.420 back.

00:17:18.380 We're back now. We're talking with Colonel Doug McGregor, and we're talking about the strategic

00:17:24.160 situation, the foundation that all of the decision makers and heads of state will have to

00:17:32.500 take into account. Doug, the carriers in the eastern Mediterranean, and we know that the

00:17:40.680 Eisenhower was to transit the Suez Canal. We do not know its precise location, one presumes

00:17:46.980 somewhere off Oman or Yemen. The idea that we have two carriers in such vulnerable positions

00:17:58.260 worries me, particularly the Gerald Ford in the eastern Mediterranean. There's such a thing as a

00:18:06.620 demonstration of power. But I just see great vulnerability there. I want to get to your

00:18:12.960 thoughts about it.

00:18:14.420 No, I think you're making a good point, Lou. And we forget that when we've been in the Middle East

00:18:18.220 previously, first of all, we were very successful at isolating our opponent. Iraq really had very few 0.74

00:18:25.800 friends, very, very limited ability to support itself. We isolated it, entered it, and defeated

00:18:32.600 it. Right now, we are not in a position to isolate the Turks, the Iranians, any of the Arab states.

00:18:40.100 And if we try to, I think we're going to fail. And that means that Israel, if anyone in the region, 1.00

00:18:46.060 is isolated. And we are really Israel's only friend. And again, you know, we don't have the

00:18:54.220 forces ashore that we once did before. We forget that we put an awful lot of military power into the

00:18:59.680 region in 1990, and again in 2003, and kept it there. We haven't maintained the same levels of

00:19:06.040 military power. And when Donald Trump was president, he recognized that these assets were vulnerable,

00:19:12.640 and he wanted to get, for instance, our troops out of Syria, and also out of Iraq. Because the

00:19:18.060 consideration then was, how do we protect all of these people? We don't have the depth

00:19:22.440 of structure and force power in the region that we once did. Now, there is some talk about adding

00:19:28.140 two more carrier battle groups. I don't know how far along that is. The idea was that you would put

00:19:33.300 a carrier battle group into the Persian Gulf, the Indian Ocean, or the Red Sea. That would help.

00:19:39.740 But again, the problem with carrier-based air is it's very limited in terms of its range

00:19:45.100 and sustainability. That's been a complaint about carriers from day one. It's an old solution

00:19:52.300 to new problems. And the new problems are not easily defeated by carriers anymore.

00:19:59.300 It raises the question, what is the strategic capacity of the civilian and military leadership

00:20:07.720 at this moment? We have a commander-in-chief who is impaired, who is compromised, who is weak,

00:20:14.600 and an uncertain ally, I will put it that way, of Israel. The suggestion was early on that

00:20:25.620 these carriers were in support of Israel. There is also a view recently expressed on this podcast by

00:20:32.420 Lee Smith, who is a man who knows both the terrain and the psychology and politics of the region.

00:20:39.300 He thinks those carriers are there to restrain Israel and any actions it might take against Hezbollah.

00:20:47.800 Your thoughts about his thinking?

00:20:50.480 Well, the only way to restrain the Israelis is to call Mr. Netanyahu and say, look, 0.79

00:20:55.060 this strategic picture is not very favorable. Timing is terrible. We have very few war stocks.

00:21:02.880 We've emptied almost everything into this pit called Ukraine. The war in Ukraine is lost. 0.99

00:21:09.600 The Russians are sitting on everything that is of any real value. And of course, 1.00

00:21:14.180 they're sitting in all the areas populated by Russians. The Russians would like to end this. 1.00

00:21:19.660 And they're moving very slowly in the hopes that the Europeans will wake up and help them end it. 0.89

00:21:24.820 If they don't, then I suppose the Russians will advance to the knee upper. They'll certainly take 1.00

00:21:29.740 Kharkov and Odessa. But there's no hope for Ukraine. And we're trying to keep that place on life support, 1.00

00:21:36.280 while at the same time, we're now confronted with a much larger and, in my estimation,

00:21:41.160 far more dangerous situation strategically. Because if we proceed as we are trying to right now,

00:21:48.540 and we go to war with Iran, which seems to be the widespread wish on the hill by everybody,

00:21:55.560 Russia is not going to stand by and allow Iran to take us on alone. Remember, Iran has stood by 0.73

00:22:02.660 Russia throughout the Ukraine conflict. That means that Russia will also probably back the Turks when 0.84

00:22:09.440 the Turks decide to enter. Although we know that Mr. Putin has urged Mr. Erdogan to reconsider and

00:22:16.560 have some patience and give it time. Whether or not Mr. Erdogan will follow that advice, I don't know.

00:22:22.740 But if the Iranians and the Turks are both committed, I suspect that Russia will stand by 0.98

00:22:28.300 them. Now, will Russia directly confront us? I don't know. But you can get very confused at sea

00:22:34.960 in the Mediterranean. You've already got Russian vessels out there, not very many, certainly Russian

00:22:40.200 submarines. You have Turkish vessels and Turkish submarines. I don't know what else is out there

00:22:46.140 besides us and the Israelis. But it's a small area. I mean, if you're an admiral in the US Navy,

00:22:52.220 you look at the eastern Mediterranean and say, this place is a puddle. Where does the United States Navy

00:22:57.540 like to operate? The Pacific and the Atlantic. There's plenty of space. That's where we enjoy a huge

00:23:02.920 strategic advantage over anyone else in the world. We don't have that in the Mediterranean.

00:23:07.460 So I think there's thinking in Washington, finally, that perhaps we've gone too far too fast.

00:23:14.240 But if you're going to restrain Mr. Netanyahu, you have to tell him, look, either you agree to a

00:23:20.300 ceasefire, we sit down, we come up with a conference to sort this child out, or we withdraw our carriers,

00:23:28.400 which means he's on his own. And remember, from his standpoint, the carriers are vital if he is going

00:23:34.620 to take on Hezbollah simultaneously. That's his biggest worry in the short run. Of course, 0.93

00:23:40.100 Hezbollah shrinks to not insignificance, but to a much smaller problem if he has to deal with both 1.00

00:23:45.680 Turkey and Iran. And to what degree now does public opinion, how is it influenced, in your view,

00:23:54.160 by what has happened with the emergence of such strong anti-Israel, pro-Palestinian radicalism on

00:24:03.820 college campuses, university campuses, the national media, and the Democrat Party, which is obviously

00:24:10.720 aligned with them?

00:24:12.520 Well, it's funny you bring that up. A friend of mine, he's a nice person. He's made lots of money.

00:24:18.540 I've known him for about 40 years. And he said, Doug, where did all these Muslims come from? 0.96

00:24:24.740 How could this happen? What is going on on these campuses? And I said, well, you know,

00:24:29.460 we've had a problem. It's called immigration. Immigration is coming back to haunt us. 1.00

00:24:36.000 We've invited legally and illegally all sorts of people into the country who have agendas that are

00:24:43.340 fundamentally antithetical to our interests. In other words, they're bringing their conflicts,

00:24:48.500 their hatreds, their bitterness with them into the United States. Same thing is happening in Europe.

00:24:54.440 We are obviously, and I certainly am, inclined to support Israel. I want to see Israel survive.

00:25:00.420 My concern is that we're not acting in a way that would help Israel save itself. We're, in fact,

00:25:06.760 encouraging the Israelis to go down full speed ahead into hell, a hell from which they may not 1.00

00:25:12.660 emerge. There are almost 90 million Turks. You have almost the same number of people in Iran. 0.82

00:25:20.620 You start running the math. You really think 6 million Israelis are going to prevail? It doesn't 1.00

00:25:27.140 make any sense. And under the circumstances, the Israelis have violated one of their own principles. 0.77

00:25:32.820 Always try to pitch your enemies against each other. And if you can't do that, then try to fight

00:25:38.180 one at a time. Well, they've blown it. They've united the Sunni and Shia 100 percent against them 1.00

00:25:45.100 in a very short period of time. And I don't think it's a battle I'd want to take on under any

00:25:50.300 circumstances. It's a loser from my standpoint. And, you know, you ask about public opinion.

00:25:55.320 Public opinion in the Muslim world is obvious. Public opinion in the United States, that's hard

00:26:00.340 to gauge. How enthusiastic will Americans be about being drawn into a major regional war?

00:26:07.060 How long before somebody figures out that we have almost no army? How are we going to field

00:26:12.460 something that will make a difference? Where are we going to put these troops? How do they enter the

00:26:16.300 theater? We always bet or at least depended upon access to Egypt in order to get to Israel's support 0.78

00:26:24.380 with ground forces? How do we get them in now? All good questions and all difficult to answer.

00:26:31.240 We're going to come right back with Doug McGregor. We're talking about what in the world kind of

00:26:35.600 messes the world. We'll be right back.

00:26:44.080 We're back now. We're talking with Colonel Doug McGregor, and he is raising serious, serious issues,

00:26:49.940 strategic issues, fundamental issues about what U.S. policy is and what our power truly is,

00:26:57.660 military and political power, geopolitical power here. And can we influence outcomes? That's what

00:27:05.240 it boils down to. Doug, your thoughts right now about going to war with a commander-in-chief,

00:27:13.220 this is not a political question. This is a strategic question, a basic national security question.

00:27:18.920 That's right. With a commander-in-chief who obviously is not well, who is impaired and

00:27:25.880 incapable of coherent thinking, a military that is now awash in woke madness that is not only

00:27:36.920 distracting from their mission, but is seemingly subsuming the time that our general officers should

00:27:45.820 be spending with strategic thinking and truly asserting our power in pursuit of the U.S. interests?

00:27:56.820 The word strategy is the key word. Normally, you want to think through carefully what you really

00:28:03.440 want to achieve. In other words, when you're finished doing whatever you propose to do,

00:28:07.260 what do you want the place to look like? What are we trying to achieve?

00:28:11.000 In my judgment, in the region, our long-term strategic goal is to preserve the existence

00:28:18.480 of Israel. That should be uppermost in both our minds and the minds of the Israelis.

00:28:24.000 That's not where we're thinking right now. We're emoting. There is no strategic means and ends

00:28:29.700 calculus. There's no realistic appraisal that we're operating 6,000, 7,000 miles from our home.

00:28:35.840 We have limited resources that we can project. We cannot predict with any certainty what kinds

00:28:43.600 of technologies will be used against us that could surprise us. Someone once said the most

00:28:50.620 important thing to do when you plan in military affairs is to plan for the worst thing the enemy

00:28:56.640 can do to you. Well, what is that? I mean, go down the list and obviously disabling or sinking a

00:29:03.060 carrier is probably number one. Do they have the capacity to do that? And the answer is yes. That

00:29:09.000 capacity exists in the region. And you have to bet on the very high probability if we go to war with

00:29:14.960 Iran that the Russians will come in to support the Iranians. Under those circumstances, the Turks would 0.96

00:29:21.320 be fools to stay up because Mr. Erdogan wants to present himself as the leader of Sunni Islam. He is 0.99

00:29:28.440 already the leader of the Muslim Brotherhood in the region and he leads the Muslim Brotherhood here in

00:29:33.200 North America. So there is no strategic thinking. There's no hard-nosed, sober-minded analysis that

00:29:40.020 would lead us to tell, for instance, as Nixon did in 1973 when the Israelis finally beat back the

00:29:46.920 Egyptians and then crossed the Suez Canal. Stop. Don't cross that canal. If you cross that canal, 0.94

00:29:54.040 the Russians will come in. If the Russians come in, we're committed to a war that we don't want to 1.00

00:29:58.880 fight. And you won't win. Well, that was Nixon in 1973. We need to get back to some sober-minded

00:30:07.680 thinking and understand that no nation can be expected to move beyond the limits of our interests.

00:30:13.860 What are our interests? Is it in our interest to go to war with the Muslim world? No, I don't think it is.

00:30:20.540 That doesn't mean we support them. We absolutely support Israel. It means that we recognize the

00:30:26.680 limitations on our power and abilities. The people in Washington don't seem to have any sense of

00:30:32.560 limitations, none whatsoever. And as far as Mr. Biden is concerned, I think he's a cutout. I'm not

00:30:39.180 sure he has much of a role whatsoever. He reads what's put in front of him. He listens to what people

00:30:44.620 decide to tell him and he moves. I think that there's a group of people that we don't even know

00:30:50.240 with absolute certainty who are running affairs, but certainly Mr. Blinken in the State Department

00:30:54.840 talks and acts a lot like the commander in chief. Yeah, he does. And he sounds a lot like President

00:31:02.100 Obama in his rhetorical, what would I call it, rhetorical coloring of events to suit himself,

00:31:14.580 not necessarily the facts. We're, again, a commander in chief who is incapable of leading.

00:31:22.220 We have a, in my opinion, a Pentagon that has not demonstrated it's capable of winning a war in a very

00:31:27.800 long time. And it's a more, it's far more than just simply the idiotic doctrine of long wars that 0.98

00:31:35.660 captured the thinking of the Pentagon and the neocons and, you know, maybe both political parties for a 0.97

00:31:44.060 while. But this is a military that is, to your point earlier, this is not the U.S. military that

00:31:51.540 we're accustomed to. 70%, one report talking about 70, 80% of the U.S. Army is not physically fit for

00:32:01.860 combat or just basic PT. I mean, what in the world is going on and why isn't more made of it until the

00:32:10.900 moment in which we just might need a fighting army? Well, people don't like bad news. And bad

00:32:18.280 news never plays well. The other thing is that we have a lot of people permanently living in 1991.

00:32:24.200 As far as they're concerned, Desert Storm just happened a couple of years ago. They aren't asking

00:32:29.220 any hard questions. You go back to the Korean War and look at the disaster that befell us in 1950.

00:32:34.740 We were almost driven into the sea off the peninsula by a North Korean army. It wasn't even the Chinese 1.00

00:32:41.320 army. And people said, what happened? Well, we stopped doing many of the things that we did during

00:32:46.780 the Second World War. We dismantled a lot of our capability. We shrank the size of the force.

00:32:52.180 At the time that the Korean War broke out, we had one carrier that we could send into action.

00:32:57.280 We're in a very similar position that we were at the beginning of the Korean War. The good news is 1.00

00:33:04.040 that we're not yet trying to defend the indefensible. In other words, we're not sitting

00:33:08.460 in the Pusan perimeter. But we don't want to get there. But no one is thinking rationally. Everything

00:33:15.100 is about emotion. It's the same thing in the Muslim world. They see numbers about 3,500 children killed

00:33:23.140 by the Israelis. The Israelis look at pictures of butchered Israeli citizens, and everyone is 0.96

00:33:28.420 emoting. You know, you pay people that run these governments, whether they're Netanyahu or Mr. Biden

00:33:35.060 or anybody else, to be thoughtful, to restrain their emotions, to be sober-minded, to look at the risks,

00:33:42.580 and not to take outrageous risks. That doesn't seem to be happening.

00:33:46.560 And I'm not sure how many people in Washington, frankly, are capable of that depth of consideration

00:33:54.140 and contemplation and reason. It's a disturbing time in this country, even absent all of the foreign 1.00

00:34:03.520 competing and dangerous challenges that we're facing. There's another part of the equation that

00:34:13.560 we haven't talked about. And very quickly, I'd just like to turn to it. There is the assumption

00:34:18.080 that the United States would simply react conventionally, predictably, and that somehow

00:34:25.340 the enemy is highly predictive here. And I'm talking about, obviously, tactical nuclear weapons,

00:34:33.060 because this has to be a standoff. I believe, and I want to get your view, I believe whatever we do

00:34:39.320 from here on for the United States, because of what we've talked about, the weakness of our

00:34:43.620 traditional army, the limitations that are so many, that it has to be a standoff war,

00:34:51.260 bringing technology and brute power to the battlefield immediately, because we know that

00:34:58.540 the doctrine of the long war is a loser every time for the United States.

00:35:03.520 Oh, you're 100% right. And I think we do want to rely on standoff fires, standoff attack,

00:35:11.580 precision strike. The problem is that there's no evidence that that wins wars. In 1991, we launched

00:35:19.360 40 days and 40 nights of precision strike all over Iraq, and it fundamentally did not dislodge

00:35:27.180 the Iraqi military from its positions in Kuwait. We had to go in on the ground. The Israelis, 0.87

00:35:33.380 Israelis do not have that large a force. Their force right now that they mobilized is larger than

00:35:38.560 the U.S. Army. But when you look at the numbers arrayed against them, and keep in mind that the Syrian

00:35:45.560 border is about, for Turkish forces, a 12-hour march down to the Golan Heights. Once you're on the Golan

00:35:55.860 Heights, there's nothing between you, really, and the heartland of Israel. That is, Tel Aviv,

00:36:03.380 and Aifa. Nothing there to stop you. How do you deal with that? Can you destroy everything that's 1.00

00:36:09.340 en route on the Syrian plane? Do you turn to a nuclear weapon, which is what the Israelis could 0.99

00:36:15.680 do? That's very dangerous, because as I pointed out, the notion that your opponents will not be

00:36:21.560 able to respond is misleading, because we know the Turks can get a hold of a nuclear weapon.

00:36:26.300 We don't want to use nuclear weapons, but if we're up against the wall and we can't win,

00:36:32.600 one wonders what we might do. And I think that's your point. That was always my concern in Ukraine.

00:36:39.000 We could never prevail against the Russians in Ukraine conventionally. If we tried, what would 0.98

00:36:44.200 happen when we failed? Well, then someone would say we'll have to use a nuclear weapon or threaten

00:36:49.420 its use to avoid being annihilated. I hope we don't get to that point. I'd rather not. That's why,

00:36:57.920 even though there's big support for the Israelis to punish their opponents,

00:37:02.340 you have to step back and think about the consequences of this total war of annihilation

00:37:07.560 that Mr. Netanyahu wants to wage. You know, there was an attempt, I'm told by Mr. Blinken,

00:37:13.200 to come up with some sort of relocation plan for the people in Gaza. All of the Muslim countries

00:37:19.040 were appalled. They were rebelled by that idea. They said, this is their home. This is where they

00:37:25.600 live. You're not going to drive them out. And not drive them out and also not make them their

00:37:31.140 problem, which has been the Arab attitude for a very long time. Of course. Colonel Doug McGregor, 0.99

00:37:36.600 as always, instructive, illuminating, insightful. And thank you very much. We appreciate it.

00:37:43.200 Thanks, Lou, for all that you do.

00:37:45.320 Thanks, everybody, for being with us. Our guest tomorrow on The Great America Show will be

00:37:49.400 attorney John Eastman. The former Trump attorney in his impeachment trials is now facing disbarment

00:37:55.600 in California for having represented President Trump. John is in a battle with the California Bar

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