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Joe Biden's brother allegedly laundered $40,000 into Joe Biden's bank account using a forged check from a Chinese affiliate of a Chinese company. FBI Director Christopher Wray on Capitol Hill, taking a much needed break from terrorizing President Trump and his supporters, warns that Hamas and other foreign terrorist organizations could use the ongoing Israel-Hamas conflict as a pretext to conduct attacks here in America. The world's richest man, Elon Musk, and now probably America's second most investigated man behind President Trump, was on a podcast this week with Joe Rogan.
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Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs and welcome to The Great America Show. Great to have you with us.
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More developments today in the House Oversight Committee's investigation of President Biden.
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Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer revealing the committee discovered a $40,000 check
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that President Biden's brother sent to Joe after the money had been laundered from money
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the crime family received from China. Here's Chairman Comer.
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Not only did he lie about his son Hunter making money in China, but it also turns out that $40,000
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in laundered China money landed in Joe Biden's bank account in the form of a personal check.
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And the Oversight Committee has it. Here's how Joe Biden benefited from his family's shady deal with
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CEFC, a Chinese Communist Party-linked company. It all began with a shakedown in the summer of 2017,
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when Hunter Biden sent a message to his CEFC associate demanding a $10 million capital payment.
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As Hunter Biden extorted this associate, Hunter claimed he was sitting with his father
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and that the Biden network would turn on his associate if he didn't pony up the money.
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The extortion scheme worked. Days later, $5 million flowed in from a Chinese affiliate of CEFC.
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Over the following three weeks, Biden family members made a series of complicated financial
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transactions to hide the source of the China money.
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This is the second personal check to Joe Biden that Comer's committee has uncovered so far.
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Earlier this month, they found a $200,000 check sent from James to Joe Biden. The check to Joe was
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on the same day that James received a $200,000 transfer from troubled rural hospital company
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AmeriCorps by pledging to use his political connections to secure a Middle East investor.
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More sketchy Biden foreign business dealings. FBI Director Christopher Wray on Capitol Hill this week,
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taking a much-needed break from terrorizing President Trump and his supporters
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to talk about real terrorism and terrorists, Hamas. Wray issued a warning in his threats to the
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Homeland Senate testimony, warning that Hamas and other foreign terrorist organizations could use
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the ongoing Israel-Hamas conflict as a pretext to conduct attacks here in America.
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But as I said a few moments ago, on top of the homegrown violent extremists and domestic violent
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extremist threat, we also cannot and do not discount the possibility that Hamas or another
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foreign terrorist organization may exploit the current conflict to conduct attacks here on our own soil.
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We have kept our sights on Hamas and have multiple ongoing investigations into individuals
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affiliated with that foreign terrorist organization.
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It's nice to see the FBI Director addressing real terrorist threats, not some folks who just
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protested a rigged election, or parents and grandparents defending their students at a school
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board meeting. In a new analysis by the New York Post, billionaire and Marxist mega-donor George Soros
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has reportedly given more than $15 million to anti-Israel, pro-Hamas protest organizations since 2016.
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As I said yesterday, Soros is the root of much of the evil in American politics and much of the
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world as well. The world's richest man, Elon Musk, and now probably America's second most
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investigated behind President Trump, was on a podcast this week with Joe Rogan.
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Elon calling out Soros for what he is. He said Soros fundamentally hates humanity and is doing all he
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In my opinion, he fundamentally hates humanity. That's my opinion.
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Yeah. I mean, well, he's doing things that erode the fabric of civilization. You know, getting
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DAs elected who refuse to prosecute crime. That's part of the problem in San Francisco and LA and
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Was it humanity or is it just the United States as a whole?
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I mean, he's pushing things in other countries too.
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Yeah. Now, George at this point is pretty old. I mean, he's not, you know, he's basically a bit
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senile at this point. But I mean, he's very smart. And he's very good at arbitrage. You know,
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famously, he shorted the British pound. That's sort of how I think he made his first money
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with shorting the pound. So he's good at spotting basically arbitrage, like spotting value for
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money that other people don't see. So one of the things he noticed was that the value for money in
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local races is much higher than it is in national races. So the lowest value for money is a presidential
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race. Then next lowest value for money is a Senate race, then a Congress. But once you get to sort
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of city and state district attorneys, the value for money is extremely good. And Soros realized that
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you don't actually need to change the laws. You just need to change how they're enforced.
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If nobody chooses to enforce the law or the laws are differentially enforced, it's like changing
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laws. Welcome to the fight, Elon Musk. And joining us now, a man who stays in the fight,
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the CEO of our country, our choice, Colonel Doug McGregor. Doug, great to have you with us here.
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I want to first get your assessment where the conflict is right now in Gaza and its implications.
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Well, I think we're at the beginning of what could potentially be a regional war for the moment.
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Israel is focused primarily on Hamas and annihilating it. And sadly, it sounds like the population of
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Gaza along with it. And at the same time, they've harnessed us to protect their northern border in the
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event that Hezbollah attacks. So that far in advance, the Israelis have thought. But in truth,
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it's growing very rapidly into a regional conflict. The Turks, the Iranians, all of the Muslim Arab
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states reaching into North Africa, of course, with Egypt. In fact, I would argue that all the Muslim
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states from Morocco to Indonesia are upset with what the Israelis are doing in Gaza because they see it
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as disproportionate. And they also see it as a collective punishment. And they don't particularly
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care for that. And I think that they're reaching the point where they're willing to take action
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I don't know that the nations that you just mentioned, the Muslim nations, their militaries
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don't really add up to much in terms of if the United States is supporting Israel. And I want to take
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that question up with you, just to what degree is this administration supporting Israel? But against
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the firepower of just, say, the Eisenhower and Gerald Ford carrier strike groups, that's a lot of power,
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as you well know. And I understand that amongst those nations, Turkey has the strongest military.
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Well, it's actually more than Turkey. I think we grossly underestimate Iran. Iran has an enormous
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arsenal of very sophisticated and accurate theater and tactical ballistic missiles, cruise missiles,
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and also unmanned systems or drones. All of their theater ballistic missiles have a range of about
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1,200 miles. This means that all of Israel is literally within the range of their forces.
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They don't have much of a ground force, but they do have Shiite militias all over Iraq and
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Syria that are obviously poised to contribute as needed, and obviously to attack us.
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I think Turkey is probably the 500-pound gorilla in the room. They have an enormous army, and within a month,
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month and a half, they could put 2 million men into the field. They have a very sizable naval force,
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over 100 ships. Their submarines and the Israeli submarines are identical. They have German-built
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diesel-electric submarines of very high quality, and they're almost undetectable in shallow water and
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difficult to find in deep water. They do have cruise missiles, and of course, they have quite a fleet
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of drones. They have one of the largest collection of drones, over 500 in one fleet of any country in
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the world. And I think that we should keep in mind that Pakistan has made it very clear that if the
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Turks need it, they will provide nuclear warheads to them that could be used to both deter Israel or
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strike back at Israel as necessary. I don't think that I would write off the Egyptians. The Egyptians have a
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large force. They're trying to bring three or four divisions up to full strength. They want to put
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probably 200,000 men with equipment on the Egyptian border. And again, you know, General Sisi in Egypt
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is not interested in a war, but he may not have much choice in the matter because his population is
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enraged. And they want action taken to protect the Arab population of Gaza, which most of the Muslim
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world sees as being systematically murdered by the Israelis. Whether or not that's true doesn't
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matter. That's the way they see it. And I think, you know, the Saudis, the Emirates will certainly
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support in whatever ways that they can. The Jordanians, obviously, are very much like the Egyptians.
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They're not interested in a war, but they too may not have much choice because now
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Palestinians in Jordan actually outnumber Jordanians. We haven't even talked about the
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West Bank, which will probably erupt in a revolt against Israel. And then, of course, Syria and
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Hezbollah. Hezbollah has 140,000 roughly missiles and rockets, of which about 40,000 are top of the line
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and actually quite accurate. They could probably destroy the city of Haifa and certainly could destroy
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any Israeli bases in the northern part of Israel. And then you have the air defense systems.
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And while the air forces aren't impressive, the air defense systems are Russian. The S-400 operates
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across Syria and Lebanon. That could easily be put into operation and that would shoot many of our
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aircraft down. Then you have the S-300, which would also contribute to the air defense network.
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And I think we need to understand there are about 90 aircraft on each of the carriers.
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All 90 aircraft are not fighters that are designed to deliver ordinance on each one, perhaps 40 or 50,
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excuse me, are designed for that purpose. And when you look at the sortie rate, that is the number of
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aircraft they can launch and then recover. You're talking between the two carriers, perhaps 20 or 30
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aircraft at a time. I don't know precisely where the carrier groups are located by, I suspect,
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quite a distance from Israel. Because as you sail into the eastern Mediterranean, you're vulnerable
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to all sorts of systems from the Turks, the Syrians, the Lebanese, the Hezbollah. And as a result,
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that means that you've got to fly a long distance, deliver your ordinance, turn around and come back.
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And we're not postured to refuel them, which means that many of them could have to land in Israel to
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refuel. Landing in Israel, which is probably going to end up living under an almost constant rain of
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rockets and missiles, can be problematic. Then, of course, you have cruise missiles that can be
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launched, tomahawks, and they're going to have an impact. There's no question about it. But many of
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those can be shot down. Those are not very fast. They're not hard to target. They're not hard to shoot
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down. And those air defense systems that I mentioned have shot them down previously.
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So I think that we overestimate the impact of the naval power. Now, I don't know what kind of Air
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Force contribution there will be. I know we've moved some B-52s to the region. Where they are and how
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they could be used is a question I can't answer. Each B-52 can drop 9,500-pound bombs. If you change
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the load to have more accurate munitions, say 2,000-pound bombs, they'll carry fewer,
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but they'll be accurate. But then again, the B-52s can also be shot down. I don't know about
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the plan to use B-1 or B-2 bombers. And then finally, you have the Air Forces that are stationed
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in the region. U.S. Air Forces, they're vulnerable. They're on airfields that are not well protected from
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an air defense standpoint, which is why we're sending over air defense battalions as we speak
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right now. How many of them are available and how they would be used? I don't know. But most of them
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are designed to protect the forces that we have in Iraq and Syria. We have about 1,000 men up in the
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northeast corner of Syria. And they're in a very vulnerable position, Lou. A friend of mine in the
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building, I'm talking about the Pentagon, said, you know, Doug, they're in a position much like
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Wake Island in 1942. They're too far away. We can't get to them quickly, and they could easily
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be overrun. Now, who will do the overrunning? Will that be Shiite militias? Will it be Turkish forces?
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If the Turks actually intervene directly, and I think they will. I don't know. And then, of course,
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in Iraq, we have some forces as well as in the Gulf region. All of those are within range of various
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Iranian weapon systems. So I think we have to be very careful. What we don't have that we
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actually need, Lou, is an army. The United States Army is about 450,000. And most of the punch in the
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U.S. Army, that's your mobile armored forces sitting in Poland, Lithuania, and down in Romania.
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We're not going to be able to move them at all. If we do, it'll take us a long time to get them
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somewhere, and we're not going to be able to move the munitions that go with them. That includes
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artillery and tanks. So we're reliant almost exclusively on air and naval power. And to be
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frank, Lou, I don't think the people ashore are all that concerned about those carrier battle groups.
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They have never had a sustained impact. They look powerful. They sound powerful. But when it comes
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to sustained impact on the ground, on land, not really. So I think it's a dangerously
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slender thread from which to suspend U.S. national strategic interests. Frankly, I think we're
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overwhelmed. This is not 1991. We don't have the forces we had in 91. We live in a very different
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environment. And all of the Arab states have changed. Technology has changed. There are many
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things they can do now that they could not do 50 years ago. They have populations that are actually
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much better educated, that can master technologies that they couldn't master 50 years ago. So I think
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the Israelis are in a very difficult position. And I think they ought to reconsider the wisdom of
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pressing ahead in Gaza the way they're headed. We're talking with Doug McGregor, and we will be right
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back. We have the foundation. Let's see what we can build here in terms of an outlook for an
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excellent outcome for everyone involved. Israel, the United States, and the region. We'll be right
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We're back now. We're talking with Colonel Doug McGregor, and we're talking about the strategic
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situation, the foundation that all of the decision makers and heads of state will have to
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take into account. Doug, the carriers in the eastern Mediterranean, and we know that the
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Eisenhower was to transit the Suez Canal. We do not know its precise location, one presumes
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somewhere off Oman or Yemen. The idea that we have two carriers in such vulnerable positions
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worries me, particularly the Gerald Ford in the eastern Mediterranean. There's such a thing as a
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demonstration of power. But I just see great vulnerability there. I want to get to your
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No, I think you're making a good point, Lou. And we forget that when we've been in the Middle East
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previously, first of all, we were very successful at isolating our opponent. Iraq really had very few
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friends, very, very limited ability to support itself. We isolated it, entered it, and defeated
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it. Right now, we are not in a position to isolate the Turks, the Iranians, any of the Arab states.
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And if we try to, I think we're going to fail. And that means that Israel, if anyone in the region,
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is isolated. And we are really Israel's only friend. And again, you know, we don't have the
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forces ashore that we once did before. We forget that we put an awful lot of military power into the
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region in 1990, and again in 2003, and kept it there. We haven't maintained the same levels of
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military power. And when Donald Trump was president, he recognized that these assets were vulnerable,
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and he wanted to get, for instance, our troops out of Syria, and also out of Iraq. Because the
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consideration then was, how do we protect all of these people? We don't have the depth
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of structure and force power in the region that we once did. Now, there is some talk about adding
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two more carrier battle groups. I don't know how far along that is. The idea was that you would put
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a carrier battle group into the Persian Gulf, the Indian Ocean, or the Red Sea. That would help.
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But again, the problem with carrier-based air is it's very limited in terms of its range
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and sustainability. That's been a complaint about carriers from day one. It's an old solution
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to new problems. And the new problems are not easily defeated by carriers anymore.
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It raises the question, what is the strategic capacity of the civilian and military leadership
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at this moment? We have a commander-in-chief who is impaired, who is compromised, who is weak,
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and an uncertain ally, I will put it that way, of Israel. The suggestion was early on that
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these carriers were in support of Israel. There is also a view recently expressed on this podcast by
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Lee Smith, who is a man who knows both the terrain and the psychology and politics of the region.
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He thinks those carriers are there to restrain Israel and any actions it might take against Hezbollah.
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Well, the only way to restrain the Israelis is to call Mr. Netanyahu and say, look,
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this strategic picture is not very favorable. Timing is terrible. We have very few war stocks.
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We've emptied almost everything into this pit called Ukraine. The war in Ukraine is lost.
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The Russians are sitting on everything that is of any real value. And of course,
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they're sitting in all the areas populated by Russians. The Russians would like to end this.
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And they're moving very slowly in the hopes that the Europeans will wake up and help them end it.
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If they don't, then I suppose the Russians will advance to the knee upper. They'll certainly take
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Kharkov and Odessa. But there's no hope for Ukraine. And we're trying to keep that place on life support,
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while at the same time, we're now confronted with a much larger and, in my estimation,
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far more dangerous situation strategically. Because if we proceed as we are trying to right now,
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and we go to war with Iran, which seems to be the widespread wish on the hill by everybody,
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Russia is not going to stand by and allow Iran to take us on alone. Remember, Iran has stood by
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Russia throughout the Ukraine conflict. That means that Russia will also probably back the Turks when
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the Turks decide to enter. Although we know that Mr. Putin has urged Mr. Erdogan to reconsider and
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have some patience and give it time. Whether or not Mr. Erdogan will follow that advice, I don't know.
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But if the Iranians and the Turks are both committed, I suspect that Russia will stand by
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them. Now, will Russia directly confront us? I don't know. But you can get very confused at sea
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in the Mediterranean. You've already got Russian vessels out there, not very many, certainly Russian
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submarines. You have Turkish vessels and Turkish submarines. I don't know what else is out there
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besides us and the Israelis. But it's a small area. I mean, if you're an admiral in the US Navy,
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you look at the eastern Mediterranean and say, this place is a puddle. Where does the United States Navy
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like to operate? The Pacific and the Atlantic. There's plenty of space. That's where we enjoy a huge
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strategic advantage over anyone else in the world. We don't have that in the Mediterranean.
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So I think there's thinking in Washington, finally, that perhaps we've gone too far too fast.
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But if you're going to restrain Mr. Netanyahu, you have to tell him, look, either you agree to a
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ceasefire, we sit down, we come up with a conference to sort this child out, or we withdraw our carriers,
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which means he's on his own. And remember, from his standpoint, the carriers are vital if he is going
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to take on Hezbollah simultaneously. That's his biggest worry in the short run. Of course,
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Hezbollah shrinks to not insignificance, but to a much smaller problem if he has to deal with both
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Turkey and Iran. And to what degree now does public opinion, how is it influenced, in your view,
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by what has happened with the emergence of such strong anti-Israel, pro-Palestinian radicalism on
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college campuses, university campuses, the national media, and the Democrat Party, which is obviously
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Well, it's funny you bring that up. A friend of mine, he's a nice person. He's made lots of money.
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I've known him for about 40 years. And he said, Doug, where did all these Muslims come from?
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How could this happen? What is going on on these campuses? And I said, well, you know,
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we've had a problem. It's called immigration. Immigration is coming back to haunt us.
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We've invited legally and illegally all sorts of people into the country who have agendas that are
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fundamentally antithetical to our interests. In other words, they're bringing their conflicts,
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their hatreds, their bitterness with them into the United States. Same thing is happening in Europe.
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We are obviously, and I certainly am, inclined to support Israel. I want to see Israel survive.
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My concern is that we're not acting in a way that would help Israel save itself. We're, in fact,
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encouraging the Israelis to go down full speed ahead into hell, a hell from which they may not
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emerge. There are almost 90 million Turks. You have almost the same number of people in Iran.
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You start running the math. You really think 6 million Israelis are going to prevail? It doesn't
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make any sense. And under the circumstances, the Israelis have violated one of their own principles.
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Always try to pitch your enemies against each other. And if you can't do that, then try to fight
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one at a time. Well, they've blown it. They've united the Sunni and Shia 100 percent against them
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in a very short period of time. And I don't think it's a battle I'd want to take on under any
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circumstances. It's a loser from my standpoint. And, you know, you ask about public opinion.
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Public opinion in the Muslim world is obvious. Public opinion in the United States, that's hard
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to gauge. How enthusiastic will Americans be about being drawn into a major regional war?
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How long before somebody figures out that we have almost no army? How are we going to field
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something that will make a difference? Where are we going to put these troops? How do they enter the
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theater? We always bet or at least depended upon access to Egypt in order to get to Israel's support
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with ground forces? How do we get them in now? All good questions and all difficult to answer.
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We're going to come right back with Doug McGregor. We're talking about what in the world kind of
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We're back now. We're talking with Colonel Doug McGregor, and he is raising serious, serious issues,
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strategic issues, fundamental issues about what U.S. policy is and what our power truly is,
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military and political power, geopolitical power here. And can we influence outcomes? That's what
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it boils down to. Doug, your thoughts right now about going to war with a commander-in-chief,
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this is not a political question. This is a strategic question, a basic national security question.
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That's right. With a commander-in-chief who obviously is not well, who is impaired and
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incapable of coherent thinking, a military that is now awash in woke madness that is not only
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distracting from their mission, but is seemingly subsuming the time that our general officers should
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be spending with strategic thinking and truly asserting our power in pursuit of the U.S. interests?
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The word strategy is the key word. Normally, you want to think through carefully what you really
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want to achieve. In other words, when you're finished doing whatever you propose to do,
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what do you want the place to look like? What are we trying to achieve?
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In my judgment, in the region, our long-term strategic goal is to preserve the existence
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of Israel. That should be uppermost in both our minds and the minds of the Israelis.
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That's not where we're thinking right now. We're emoting. There is no strategic means and ends
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calculus. There's no realistic appraisal that we're operating 6,000, 7,000 miles from our home.
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We have limited resources that we can project. We cannot predict with any certainty what kinds
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of technologies will be used against us that could surprise us. Someone once said the most
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important thing to do when you plan in military affairs is to plan for the worst thing the enemy
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can do to you. Well, what is that? I mean, go down the list and obviously disabling or sinking a
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carrier is probably number one. Do they have the capacity to do that? And the answer is yes. That
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capacity exists in the region. And you have to bet on the very high probability if we go to war with
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Iran that the Russians will come in to support the Iranians. Under those circumstances, the Turks would
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be fools to stay up because Mr. Erdogan wants to present himself as the leader of Sunni Islam. He is
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already the leader of the Muslim Brotherhood in the region and he leads the Muslim Brotherhood here in
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North America. So there is no strategic thinking. There's no hard-nosed, sober-minded analysis that
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would lead us to tell, for instance, as Nixon did in 1973 when the Israelis finally beat back the
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Egyptians and then crossed the Suez Canal. Stop. Don't cross that canal. If you cross that canal,
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the Russians will come in. If the Russians come in, we're committed to a war that we don't want to
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fight. And you won't win. Well, that was Nixon in 1973. We need to get back to some sober-minded
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thinking and understand that no nation can be expected to move beyond the limits of our interests.
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What are our interests? Is it in our interest to go to war with the Muslim world? No, I don't think it is.
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That doesn't mean we support them. We absolutely support Israel. It means that we recognize the
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limitations on our power and abilities. The people in Washington don't seem to have any sense of
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limitations, none whatsoever. And as far as Mr. Biden is concerned, I think he's a cutout. I'm not
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sure he has much of a role whatsoever. He reads what's put in front of him. He listens to what people
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decide to tell him and he moves. I think that there's a group of people that we don't even know
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with absolute certainty who are running affairs, but certainly Mr. Blinken in the State Department
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talks and acts a lot like the commander in chief. Yeah, he does. And he sounds a lot like President
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Obama in his rhetorical, what would I call it, rhetorical coloring of events to suit himself,
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not necessarily the facts. We're, again, a commander in chief who is incapable of leading.
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We have a, in my opinion, a Pentagon that has not demonstrated it's capable of winning a war in a very
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long time. And it's a more, it's far more than just simply the idiotic doctrine of long wars that
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captured the thinking of the Pentagon and the neocons and, you know, maybe both political parties for a
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while. But this is a military that is, to your point earlier, this is not the U.S. military that
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we're accustomed to. 70%, one report talking about 70, 80% of the U.S. Army is not physically fit for
00:32:01.860
combat or just basic PT. I mean, what in the world is going on and why isn't more made of it until the
00:32:10.900
moment in which we just might need a fighting army? Well, people don't like bad news. And bad
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news never plays well. The other thing is that we have a lot of people permanently living in 1991.
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As far as they're concerned, Desert Storm just happened a couple of years ago. They aren't asking
00:32:29.220
any hard questions. You go back to the Korean War and look at the disaster that befell us in 1950.
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We were almost driven into the sea off the peninsula by a North Korean army. It wasn't even the Chinese
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army. And people said, what happened? Well, we stopped doing many of the things that we did during
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the Second World War. We dismantled a lot of our capability. We shrank the size of the force.
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At the time that the Korean War broke out, we had one carrier that we could send into action.
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We're in a very similar position that we were at the beginning of the Korean War. The good news is
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that we're not yet trying to defend the indefensible. In other words, we're not sitting
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in the Pusan perimeter. But we don't want to get there. But no one is thinking rationally. Everything
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is about emotion. It's the same thing in the Muslim world. They see numbers about 3,500 children killed
00:33:23.140
by the Israelis. The Israelis look at pictures of butchered Israeli citizens, and everyone is
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emoting. You know, you pay people that run these governments, whether they're Netanyahu or Mr. Biden
00:33:35.060
or anybody else, to be thoughtful, to restrain their emotions, to be sober-minded, to look at the risks,
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and not to take outrageous risks. That doesn't seem to be happening.
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And I'm not sure how many people in Washington, frankly, are capable of that depth of consideration
00:33:54.140
and contemplation and reason. It's a disturbing time in this country, even absent all of the foreign
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competing and dangerous challenges that we're facing. There's another part of the equation that
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we haven't talked about. And very quickly, I'd just like to turn to it. There is the assumption
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that the United States would simply react conventionally, predictably, and that somehow
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the enemy is highly predictive here. And I'm talking about, obviously, tactical nuclear weapons,
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because this has to be a standoff. I believe, and I want to get your view, I believe whatever we do
00:34:39.320
from here on for the United States, because of what we've talked about, the weakness of our
00:34:43.620
traditional army, the limitations that are so many, that it has to be a standoff war,
00:34:51.260
bringing technology and brute power to the battlefield immediately, because we know that
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the doctrine of the long war is a loser every time for the United States.
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Oh, you're 100% right. And I think we do want to rely on standoff fires, standoff attack,
00:35:11.580
precision strike. The problem is that there's no evidence that that wins wars. In 1991, we launched
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40 days and 40 nights of precision strike all over Iraq, and it fundamentally did not dislodge
00:35:27.180
the Iraqi military from its positions in Kuwait. We had to go in on the ground. The Israelis,
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Israelis do not have that large a force. Their force right now that they mobilized is larger than
00:35:38.560
the U.S. Army. But when you look at the numbers arrayed against them, and keep in mind that the Syrian
00:35:45.560
border is about, for Turkish forces, a 12-hour march down to the Golan Heights. Once you're on the Golan
00:35:55.860
Heights, there's nothing between you, really, and the heartland of Israel. That is, Tel Aviv,
00:36:03.380
and Aifa. Nothing there to stop you. How do you deal with that? Can you destroy everything that's
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en route on the Syrian plane? Do you turn to a nuclear weapon, which is what the Israelis could
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do? That's very dangerous, because as I pointed out, the notion that your opponents will not be
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able to respond is misleading, because we know the Turks can get a hold of a nuclear weapon.
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We don't want to use nuclear weapons, but if we're up against the wall and we can't win,
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one wonders what we might do. And I think that's your point. That was always my concern in Ukraine.
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We could never prevail against the Russians in Ukraine conventionally. If we tried, what would
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happen when we failed? Well, then someone would say we'll have to use a nuclear weapon or threaten
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its use to avoid being annihilated. I hope we don't get to that point. I'd rather not. That's why,
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even though there's big support for the Israelis to punish their opponents,
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you have to step back and think about the consequences of this total war of annihilation
00:37:07.560
that Mr. Netanyahu wants to wage. You know, there was an attempt, I'm told by Mr. Blinken,
00:37:13.200
to come up with some sort of relocation plan for the people in Gaza. All of the Muslim countries
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were appalled. They were rebelled by that idea. They said, this is their home. This is where they
00:37:25.600
live. You're not going to drive them out. And not drive them out and also not make them their
00:37:31.140
problem, which has been the Arab attitude for a very long time. Of course. Colonel Doug McGregor,
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as always, instructive, illuminating, insightful. And thank you very much. We appreciate it.
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00:37:49.400
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00:37:55.600
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00:38:02.400
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