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00:01:18.340 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs. Welcome to The Great America Show. Thank you for being

00:01:26.560 with us. The big news of the day is the vast corrupt conspiracy between the Biden regime

00:01:32.420 and the deep state collaborating with private institutions to censor the free speech rights

00:01:38.440 of American citizens. The Cyber Infrastructure and Security Agency, CISA, is apparently behind

00:01:46.020 this vast conspiracy, most assuredly at the direction of the Biden White House. Judiciary

00:01:52.260 and Weaponization Chairman Jim Jordan says the DHS, disinformation experts at universities,

00:01:59.020 big tech and others work through a consortium, the Election Integrity Partnership. Remember that name,

00:02:06.720 the Election Integrity Partnership. It's exactly the opposite of what the name would imply.

00:02:12.860 To monitor and to censor American speech, particularly conservative Americans' free speech,

00:02:19.320 Chairman Jordan calls it the bombshell report on the censorship industrial complex.

00:02:25.680 And for more about this important story, go to x.com at GOP Oversight or at Judiciary GOP.

00:02:35.420 Your federal government weaponized against all of us, but especially you and me.

00:02:41.020 The Israel-Hamas war is raging, of course, still in Gaza. And anti-Israel, anti-Semitic protests have

00:02:49.340 broken out around the world. Especially alarming to me have been the demonstrations in the nation's

00:02:55.120 capital, in big cities across the country, and of course, the anti-Semitic protests on campuses of

00:03:02.400 colleges and universities in particular. It is particularly sickening. But given the Marxist

00:03:08.860 influence and indoctrination of our students over the past few decades, none of us should be

00:03:13.960 surprised. American academia has become a fortress. A fortress to protect Marxist thought,

00:03:20.960 to protect Marxist ideology, and orthodoxy from all values American. American history,

00:03:28.320 our American heritage, and our American national values. Instead, our colleges are bastions of

00:03:36.200 ignorance and hate. A recent Daily Mail poll shows Americans now, by a huge margin, believe that

00:03:43.320 our top universities are not doing enough to crack down on anti-Semitism and support for Hamas

00:03:51.160 terrorists. Imagine that. Our students supporting terrorism. Our guest today is Cornell Law Professor

00:03:59.440 William Jacobson. He is a witness to the ugliness of hate on our campuses. Cornell is one of many

00:04:06.120 universities racked by threats, protests, and unrest, anti-Semitic, anti-Israel, and pro-Palestinian

00:04:13.820 and Hamas. And Professor Jacobson has spoken out loudly on campus and courageously against hate,

00:04:20.480 against anti-Semitism. And Professor, I want to say welcome to The Great America Show. It's great to

00:04:26.340 have you with us, and I have to say how proud I am of you and how much I respect your courage.

00:04:32.320 You've written on the issue. You've been speaking out strongly about the surge of anti-Semitism on

00:04:37.440 the country's universities and college campuses. I think the university, Cornell University, is very

00:04:43.620 lucky to have you there speaking out, and if you will, being a conscience of the university. I commend

00:04:49.840 you for that, and I don't want you blushing too much. You've watched the students at Cornell

00:04:54.860 actually threaten Jewish students' protest in favor and support of anti-Semitic faculty members,

00:05:01.440 and now there's been one particular student who threatened to slit the throats of his fellow

00:05:07.060 Jewish students. I have to say, too, that the university's leaders were hardly quick to condemn

00:05:13.400 anti-Semitism, in my opinion, and to condemn pro-Palestinian demonstrations.

00:05:18.640 Your thoughts on what is happening now on too many of our college and university campuses?

00:05:25.280 Well, yes, it's pretty shocking to everybody. I think kind of stepping back to October 7th,

00:05:31.720 October 7th was when Hamas invaded southern Israel, butchered 1,400 people, you know, sexually 0.53

00:05:40.180 mutilated them, tortured them, kidnapped babies and toddlers and took them to Gaza. So that's kind of 0.65

00:05:48.980 the backdrop. You would think there would be universal condemnation of that. Forget where you are on the

00:05:55.240 Israeli-Palestinian conflict. That sort of thing is really ISIS-like. Frankly, it's Nazi-like. That sort of 0.76

00:06:02.920 torture and humiliation of people. But on our campus, believe it or not, there were students

00:06:09.920 who were advocating it. They weren't necessarily advocating the torture by name, but they were

00:06:15.360 happy about the invasion. They felt Israel had it coming to them. And so you had this conflict

00:06:20.980 developing on campus with the majority of people expressing, you know, horror at this and holding

00:06:28.080 vigils about it. But you also had student groups on campus who were, you know, we need to liberate 0.64

00:06:34.780 Israel by any means necessary. That's the phrase of the day, by any means necessary, from the river to

00:06:41.640 the sea, which means you exterminate the Jewish people in Israel. And so that was the tension on

00:06:47.560 campus. And it was just ratcheted up through the roof when one particular professor on campus,

00:06:55.400 somebody who's probably the most prominent anti-Israel professor on campus. His name's out

00:07:01.000 there, Russell Rickford, so it's not like I'm disclosing something. In a rally, an anti-Israel rally

00:07:08.760 in face of all this in downtown Ithaca, attended by a lot of students, a fairly large rally,

00:07:14.840 gave a roaring speech against Israel, a roaring speech celebrating the attack. And the words that

00:07:24.680 became infamous on TV and the internet were that he felt exhilarated when he heard about it.

00:07:31.400 And that word exhilarated, he's now trying to explain away, well, it really wasn't exhilarated

00:07:37.360 about the torture and the kidnapping. It was more the invasion. But everybody in the crowd knew what

00:07:43.040 he meant, because as soon as he said that, they broke into a chant of, from the river to the sea,

00:07:48.760 Palestine will be free. That put Cornell on the map. That went everywhere. And that's the tension 0.86

00:07:56.280 that continued on campus. There were graffiti, anti-Israel graffiti spray painted around campus.

00:08:05.480 But the most recent was this weekend on a chat board. Now, I don't frequent chat boards,

00:08:11.020 but apparently it's a thing that students do. And somebody, they didn't know who it was at the time,

00:08:19.100 repeated a lot of that verbiage. And also, as you indicated, threatened to slit the throats of Jewish

00:08:25.660 students. So it was all directed to Jewish students, threatened to take some sort of revenge on the

00:08:31.260 kosher dining hall, and repeated a lot of that verbiage that you heard at the pro, the anti-Israel

00:08:38.380 rallies and from that professor about, you know, by any means necessary, called the Jewish students

00:08:44.620 who lived at the building next to the dining hall, the kosher dining hall, settlers, that we need to

00:08:51.740 cleanse the campus of these settlers. So it was very, very ugly. Maybe the worst that's happened 1.00

00:08:58.700 anywhere. I shouldn't say the worst, but clearly really bad. And it exposed an extremely dark underside

00:09:07.500 of the campus culture at Cornell. It turned out that that person posting the threats was just

00:09:13.740 was arrested and has been announced by the U.S. Attorney's Office. He's a junior at Cornell. He's

00:09:19.180 a student on campus. And I think the question that we need to answer, and the school does,

00:09:24.780 and I'm happy to talk about it, is how does a student like that, based on his LinkedIn profile,

00:09:30.460 you know, top grades in high school, basically a math genius, science genius, works for all sorts

00:09:37.740 of clubs. How does somebody like that get so radicalized when they come to Cornell that they're

00:09:43.980 making threats to slit the throats of Jewish students on campus? And so Cornell's got a very,

00:09:50.220 very deep problem that was brought to the surface. The Hamas attack didn't create the problem,

00:09:55.900 but it brought it to the surface. Well, it's to me stunning, this junior. Do you know much about

00:10:03.660 him? Do you know, is he an international student? Is he a... No, he is a student of Asian descent from

00:10:10.940 upstate New York, Pittsburgh, New York, I think was what he was listed as. And so as far as I know,

00:10:18.140 I've asked around, nobody seemed to know him. So it's not like he was a prominent activist on campus.

00:10:24.860 Maybe more information will come out, but from what I am gathering, he did have mental illness

00:10:30.940 problems. You know, a lot of people do who end up shooting up places, okay? So, but why did he turn

00:10:38.940 that mental illness towards Jews? And I think it's the campus culture. That's an interesting thought, 0.60

00:10:45.660 and that culture seems to be well established. I frankly am surprised that the president of the

00:10:52.220 university who spoke to this in response, in large measure, I'm sure, because of your essay on the

00:11:00.700 issue, it doesn't sound to me like he's been particularly active, as he suggested. I'm not

00:11:09.340 in any way judging on this. I basically am looking at the surface of the matter. But it doesn't seem to

00:11:15.900 me that the university has taken a very aggressive approach to either human rights or hate and bigotry

00:11:26.620 on the campus. It's a bizarre sort of aspect as you look at the context of where this student came

00:11:34.460 from and what happened on the campus.

00:11:37.180 Yeah, she doesn't get it. The president, I don't think, gets it. I don't think the senior

00:11:41.980 administration gets it. I think they are putting band-aids on things. They don't realize that they

00:11:49.260 have contributed dramatically to the problem on campus. Now, certainly, I'm not accusing the

00:11:54.620 administration of being anti-Semitic at all, but I'm saying they have forced onto the campus. They 1.00

00:12:00.700 have racialized the campus. They have forced onto the campus three years ago after George Floyd died 0.93

00:12:07.340 a quote-unquote anti-racism agenda, diversity, equity, and inclusion. The race is now the hyper focus

00:12:16.060 of almost everything that happens on campus. Students are forced to view themselves through

00:12:21.900 a racial lens. And when you do that, you start to see, and we've seen it on Cornell even before that

00:12:27.900 initiative, but worse since, students start to separate themselves by race. They start to separate

00:12:33.580 themselves by ethnic identities and they form coalitions, and this is how they describe it,

00:12:39.340 coalitions of students of color against Israel. So they form, they turn what is a religious 0.51

00:12:45.660 dispute between Jews and Muslims in Israel, a national dispute between Jews and Arabs in Israel,

00:12:54.460 and they turn it into a racial issue, which it's not. And that's what the President and the

00:13:00.380 senior administration has done. They've taken a religious dispute and turned it into a racial dispute,

00:13:06.220 and now you see people on campus talking about, you know, the white Israelis, the white settler

00:13:13.340 colonial nation. And so that has taken things to a very, and that leaves Jewish students, almost all 0.98

00:13:19.980 of whom support Israel, really in a difficult position because they're forced to either reject

00:13:26.060 part of their Jewish identity or agree with people who demonize Israel in the extreme. So they, the

00:13:32.860 administration has worsened the problem. They probably don't even realize it. I've been speaking out

00:13:39.100 against this for several years, really, you know, shouting into the darkness at Cornell. I think

00:13:45.020 there are a lot of people who agree with me, but they're all afraid to speak out.

00:13:49.660 So many people are afraid to discuss race, bigotry, the honest view of what is happening in this

00:13:57.180 country. And amongst those views, obviously, is what is Marxist radicalism that is now visited upon nearly

00:14:05.260 every campus, college and university campus in this country in one form or another, some negligible

00:14:13.180 and others overwhelming in their power over the university. We're talking with Professor William

00:14:20.700 Jacobson. We're talking about anti-Semitism. We're talking about what in the world is going on on our

00:14:27.980 university campuses in this country. And how is it related to the body politic and the

00:14:35.660 confrontation between two ideologies right now in this country? We'll be right back. Stay with us.

00:14:49.100 We're back. We're talking with Cornell Law Professor William Jacobson. Professor, it's great of you to be

00:14:55.180 here. And thanks for doing so. This is a critically important issue because it's manifesting itself.

00:15:01.340 As I said, it's showing up everywhere on college campuses in the country. And you brought up the

00:15:09.020 issue of the safety of these students. I can't imagine being in one of the most elite universities

00:15:16.940 in this country and having to worry about physical safety of students from other students. That is

00:15:26.380 just mind-boggling. And the anti-Semitism that's being voiced and acted upon is deeply troubling,

00:15:36.540 I think, to every American, every American who's concerned about this country. It's not just about,

00:15:43.420 quote-unquote, a hate crime. It's specificity and it's venomous nature, destructive nature,

00:15:54.140 is what gives pause, I think, to nearly everyone who would certainly not expect this to happen

00:15:59.740 anywhere and on any campus in this country, let alone one of our most elite universities.

00:16:05.580 That's true. But that's where we are on particularly elite schools. The faculty at most elite schools,

00:16:12.860 at least in the humanities, to a lesser extent the social sciences, is completely radicalized.

00:16:18.460 They view activism as their profession. And they say that openly. So they agitate against Israel. 0.81

00:16:27.100 You know, there's something called the International Holocaust Remembrance Association working definition

00:16:33.820 of anti-Semitism. Because the people on campus, oh, we're not anti-Semitic, we're not against Jews,

00:16:38.540 we're just against Israel. And what that working definition says is that criticizing Israel like you

00:16:46.220 would any other country is not anti-Semitic. I mean, they're entitled to be criticized just like our 0.98

00:16:51.820 government is entitled to be criticized. But when you go to such extremes, when you make Israel essentially 0.78

00:16:59.820 the the universal pariah in the world, much like Jews historically were made the universal pariah, 0.59

00:17:08.620 when you go that far to that extreme, and you treat Israel differently than you would treat other

00:17:16.300 countries, that is anti-Semitic. And that's what I think you're seeing playing out on college campuses,

00:17:22.620 is that for at least 10 years, probably more like 20 years, you have seen the gross demonization and

00:17:32.540 dehumanization of Israelis. That's, you know, no, there's no two sides to things. There's no

00:17:39.580 acknowledgement of the Jewish history in the land of Israel. There's no acknowledgement that the people

00:17:44.780 who now identify as Palestinian actually are the descendants of the conquerors of the Muslim conquest

00:17:51.580 of the West of the area. They're not indigenous to there. If you the all the archaeological digs show

00:17:57.180 that Jews were there long before that, there's been a continuous presence. There's none of that is

00:18:01.740 discussed. Nothing is discussed how in 1947, the UN proposed a partition of the land, the Jews accepted

00:18:09.340 it, the Arabs did not. There's no discussion of how the people who now identify as Palestinian didn't do

00:18:16.940 so really until the 1960s. And they didn't claim the West Bank in Gaza as their homeland until after 1967.

00:18:25.420 You know, people don't learn this. The Palestinian National Covenant from 1964, before Israel captured

00:18:33.420 the West Bank in Gaza, disclaimed any claim by the Palestinian people to those areas. So when the West

00:18:42.140 bank was occupied by Jordan, nobody said make that a homeland for the Palestinians. It was only when the 0.61

00:18:49.100 Jewish state captured it in response to Jordan attacking. So nobody learns this. It's never taught.

00:18:55.260 All they are taught at campuses like Cornell is evil white colonial Israel versus victim oppressed

00:19:04.940 non-white Palestinians. And that's where this whole racial narrative feeds in. So that's how we get here, 0.53

00:19:11.900 is that the faculty is radicalized, at least in the humanities, and they don't teach both sides.

00:19:17.980 They don't teach balance. All they do is agitate against Israel. And you get to this place in time 0.62

00:19:23.900 when that's been going on for a decade. And that radicalization, that indoctrination is coming from,

00:19:30.860 frankly, Marxist pro-dem professors who are there for a very specific purpose. They are radicalized.

00:19:41.260 They mean to fundamentally transform this country, and they're doing so. You talk about the history

00:19:47.500 of Israel and the region, the Middle East. You're lucky to get a decent education in American history

00:19:57.100 in this country right now at K-12. All of the group and identity politics driving 1877 as the starting

00:20:08.300 year for American history, that is, Reconstruction, through to the present, and leaving out huge swaths

00:20:15.500 of foundational knowledge about who we are, where we came from, our heritage, and our history,

00:20:21.500 our values. And then you take it to, and the law schools themselves are now being swept up with

00:20:30.700 Marxist ideology by the dozens, where there are strong influences now on the faculties of law schools.

00:20:39.340 Am I correct?

00:20:40.940 Yeah, you are. I mean, it goes under the rubric of critical race theory, which is a critical theory

00:20:46.620 which seeks to deconstruct our country, seeks to demonize our country, views everything through a

00:20:52.620 racial lens, that all of our systems, there is no truth, there's just, you know, systems of power,

00:20:59.020 that, you know, all of the protections for the individual that we have protected in our Bill of

00:21:05.180 Rights, and protected in many other ways, are just ways of keeping, you know, racial power. That's how 0.89

00:21:13.020 they view it. And so, yeah, it's a very negative. Not all professors subscribe to this by any means,

00:21:19.660 but it is the ideological fad that has overtaken academia, particularly law school academia, and

00:21:27.980 there's no pushback, because for 20 years they only hire their own. For 30 years they only hire their own.

00:21:34.780 So you get to a point where, you know, faculties at most universities look nothing ideologically

00:21:43.580 like America. And in law schools, I think it's probably even worse that you can't be hired unless

00:21:50.540 you have proven your commitment to diversity, equity, and inclusion. Very hard. I won't say it's

00:21:55.820 impossible, but that's what they're looking for. They're looking for people who not only share their

00:22:00.940 beliefs about these racial hierarchies and systemic racism, they're also looking for people who are

00:22:07.420 activists, who have acted on it. And, you know, up until recently, Cornell required for new hires,

00:22:13.820 diversity, equity, and inclusion statements. Now it's voluntary, but everybody knows they still want it.

00:22:19.020 And what you needed to do, it's right on Cornell's website, how they evaluate those DEI statements.

00:22:24.460 They evaluate them based not only that you say you are committed to it, but what have you done in

00:22:30.060 your career to advance DEI. And therefore everybody knows you need to not only say the things, you also

00:22:39.980 need to tailor your profession to it. So who actually ends up getting hired? It's people who think like

00:22:46.220 them because there's no way you can be hired if you disagree. Very difficult. And so it's really been

00:22:52.220 a corrupting factor. And, you know, a lot of people think I was alarmist when for years I've been saying

00:22:58.060 this, but now we're seeing it. Now we're seeing it. And I think at every level of our society, we need to

00:23:05.020 think about, you know, how can we protect society from what has happened in academia? Because so many of

00:23:13.100 the crazy things that are now, you know, corrupting corporations, HR departments and corporations

00:23:20.460 started on campus. All of this stuff, you know, people used to say, oh, those are just a few crazy

00:23:26.060 professors. We don't need to worry about them. Well, yeah, now you do because they've created two

00:23:32.300 generations of students who've been indoctrinated to believe this is the right approach.

00:23:37.420 You know, I was talking on this podcast with Mike Gonzalez from the Heritage Foundation,

00:23:44.380 and I asked him a question. How in the world is it that we have seen this mad Marxist ideology

00:23:52.620 subsume corporate America? I can't find an explanation for it. And Mike said that he is a scholar and

00:24:01.100 an absolute expert on all of us. He studied it for years. He said, I don't, I can't explain it,

00:24:09.500 because it is fundamentally anti-capitalist. It is fundamentally anti-profit, the Marxist ideology.

00:24:17.100 And yet here they are signing up, signing on and moving out, just like any one of the radicalized

00:24:25.820 professors on a college campus. Yeah, I mean, the left understood something the rest of us didn't.

00:24:32.780 If you want to change the society, you do do it through the education system. It is no mistake

00:24:39.500 that Bill Ayers, Obama's mentor, the former Weather Underground guy who got away with his crimes on a

00:24:46.860 legal technicality. Where did, what did he make his career? Education. So they understood,

00:24:52.540 take over education, get your kids to listen to them, and what you think doesn't matter.

00:24:58.700 Unfortunately, that's the absolute truth. We're talking with William Jacobson, who is a man speaking

00:25:05.180 truth at Cornell at a time when the institution desperately needs his voice and many more like

00:25:12.700 his. We'll be right back with Cornell Law Professor William Jacobson. Stay with us.

00:25:23.420 We're back with Cornell University Law Professor William Jacobson. We're talking about one of the

00:25:29.420 most serious, if not the most serious issues right now on college campuses around the country,

00:25:35.580 and that is the anti-Semitism that's being exhibited by students, by professors, the faculty,

00:25:43.020 and the institutions themselves. Perhaps not consciously, but certainly subconsciously.

00:25:51.500 But we'll see in time what the response is by these institutions to what is

00:25:57.740 a hateful environment right now in just too many of our colleges and universities.

00:26:03.180 Professor, I want to turn to a couple of things that are happening with lawfare in this country.

00:26:09.260 Project 65, the attempts to bankrupt lawyers attempting to bankrupt fellow lawyers who,

00:26:17.260 by the way, are different only in which side they're on. Are they left or are they right?

00:26:22.140 But it's become a vicious, and I think probably one of the most dangerous moments we've seen in this

00:26:31.980 country when law professors take sides and literally try to kill the other lawyers,

00:26:39.020 financially, socially, professionally. Your thoughts?

00:26:43.340 Yeah, well, this is something another corrupting influence. I mean, one of the things I've written

00:26:49.980 a lot about and spoken a lot about is the hollowing out of our institutions in this country and the

00:26:55.260 politicization of those institutions. I'm so old, I remember when being a lawyer who is willing to take

00:27:01.900 an unpopular cause and being a lawyer who is willing to take an unpopular cause and advance novel legal

00:27:10.940 theories such as segregation is unconstitutional. That was a novel legal theory at the time it was

00:27:17.820 advanced before Brown versus Board of Education. You take that now and you have lawyers who

00:27:25.900 are advancing legal theories which, at least that I've seen, are not outlandish. They may be wrong,

00:27:31.500 the judges may not agree with them, but you know what? For decades and decades, judges disagreed with

00:27:38.060 desegregation. And so what you've done is any lawyer on the right who wants to take an unpopular client

00:27:47.260 is going to see his business come under attack. He's going to see now through Project 65 his bar

00:27:52.780 membership under attack, his career come under attack or her career under attack. And you can see

00:27:58.700 this developing. I mean, one of the instances I remember is the law firm of King & Spalding. So there was

00:28:05.980 something which most of your listeners may remember, but certainly 20-somethings don't remember,

00:28:11.340 called the Defense of Marriage Act. And the Defense of Marriage Act was congressional legislation that

00:28:17.020 essentially said no state can be forced to recognize a same-sex marriage if that marriage was not legal in

00:28:24.780 the state itself. And that was controversial. Fine, it's controversial. The Department of Justice,

00:28:30.860 there was litigation challenging it. The Department of Justice was defending it because the Congress has

00:28:37.420 no law firm, no in-house law firm. So the Department of Justice traditionally defends legislation.

00:28:44.460 Obama administration defended it for a year or two and then one day announced,

00:28:48.380 we are no longer going to defend it, the Department of Justice. Congress, you've got to go out and get your

00:28:53.900 own lawyers. I don't know if it's unprecedented, but almost unprecedented. Congress went out and they

00:29:00.140 hired a law firm. And they hired King & Spalding, based in Atlanta, but a big national firm. And there

00:29:07.580 was a very well-known conservative lawyer there. And what did people do? People started to attack

00:29:15.820 the lawyers, King & Spalding. Paul Clement was the lawyer. And they started to organize boycotts at

00:29:23.420 law schools that King & Spalding would not be allowed to interview at the law schools because of

00:29:30.620 who they were representing. They organized... Let me interject this, excuse me for interrupting,

00:29:35.340 but Paul Clement is recognized as, if not the, personally, I think the

00:29:40.860 the best known and best regarded, highest regarded Supreme Court attorney in the country. Do you

00:29:49.260 think that's a fair statement? Yeah, I think that is fair. I'd love to meet him one day. But yeah,

00:29:55.020 so what they did, they not only, so they started to boycott, they started attacking and protesting at

00:29:59.500 the law firm, but then they went a step further. They started saying, okay, law firm, we're now going

00:30:05.420 to start protesting outside your other clients. So clients who had nothing to do with this

00:30:10.460 representation. And Coca-Cola was and is King & Spalding's largest client. They started to protest

00:30:16.940 to Coca-Cola. And King & Spalding said, you know what, we can't take the pressure anymore.

00:30:22.620 We're going to drop the representation. Paul Clement left the firm and kept the representation

00:30:29.900 at a new firm he set up. But that's what has happened. The concept that lawyers are there to

00:30:35.420 advance novel claims to represent clients. Okay, the lawyer is not the client. The lawyer is the

00:30:42.220 lawyer. And so that has been thrown out. That has been completely thrown out. It's that was probably

00:30:48.700 10 years ago, maybe more than 10 years ago. And now you have groups like Project 65 saying,

00:30:54.540 aha, lawyer, you know, you advanced legal theories regarding the 2020 election that were rejected by

00:31:01.580 the courts. Now we're going to try to get you disbarred. That is not how it used to work. And

00:31:07.740 what they are doing is they are trying to instill such fear in any lawyer who would represent a

00:31:14.140 Republican that Republicans are going to have a lot of trouble even finding lawyers because you know

00:31:20.540 what's going to happen. You represent a Republican on an unpopular cause, your law firm is going to be

00:31:25.580 attacked. Your bar membership is going to be attacked. You represent an unpopular lawyer on the left

00:31:31.260 side. You're a hero. You're an upholder of civil rights. There we are in very dangerous times.

00:31:37.500 And people need to understand that all of many, if not close to all of the protections that preserve

00:31:44.060 our individual rights in this country are slowly but surely being ripped down by the by the left in this

00:31:51.020 country. Torn asunder. And to your point earlier, talking about the anti Semitism, which can be expressed as

00:32:01.260 a hate of Israel, condemnation of Israel, looking upon it, treating it, considering Israel differently

00:32:10.380 than you would any other any other nation in like circumstances. And I don't think anybody can really

00:32:16.140 appreciate. I know I can't what it is like to live, to be born Israeli to live as part of a community of

00:32:26.060 about 6 million, you can argue the numbers, but 6 million Jews living in the midst of what are

00:32:35.740 90 million Iranians surrounded by Palestinian terrorists in point of fact, withdrawing in 2005 from the Gaza

00:32:50.060 Strip, uprooting settlers and turning over the land so that you have an entire population of Hamas 1.00

00:32:59.100 and Palestinians who hate you to the gates of hell. And I just can't imagine what it's like to know that

00:33:08.940 your neighbors mean for you to die and for the country you live in to be wiped off the face of the earth.

00:33:16.140 Yeah, I mean, there's no positives to what Hamas did, but one thing that is eye-opening and should be eye-opening 0.99

00:33:25.420 is we know exactly now what they mean when they say free Palestine. We know exactly what they mean when they say

00:33:34.940 from the river to the sea. Hamas showed us what they mean and what they mean is mass murder, torture, rape, mutilation.

00:33:43.100 That's what Palestinian liberation now means if anybody had any doubt. That's not to say they

00:33:52.140 shouldn't have a nation someplace or they shouldn't divide the land somehow, but the concept that the

00:33:57.420 Jews of Israel, and I think you're more or less right on the number, I think it's 6 or 7 million

00:34:03.020 plus another million or two Arab Israelis who are citizens of Israel. I think that's ballpark, right?

00:34:09.820 But that the notion that 6 to 7 million Jews should live under the thumb of Hamas and similar Islamist 0.98

00:34:18.140 groups run by Iran and that somehow it's going to turn out any differently than it did in southern

00:34:25.340 Israel near the Gaza border with the butchery that took place. Anybody who's advocating that is advocating 1.00

00:34:31.980 genocide of the Jewish people in Israel. And we should be just clear about that. No more of this,

00:34:37.020 oh, I'm just against Israel. I'm not against Jews. Sorry. If what you want is liberation from the 0.99

00:34:42.300 river to the sea, you are pro-genocide and we need to be honest about that.

00:34:47.340 And I think honesty is something that we need. I'm a product of the 60s. I'm on the college campus

00:34:57.740 in the midst of civil rights and the Vietnam War and the sexual revolution and the world turned upside 0.58

00:35:05.660 down. But I don't remember a time, an instance in which there was hate. There was absolutely concerted

00:35:15.820 arguments and fierce and passionate arguments over all of it. But with open minds, because we were,

00:35:23.980 after all, still debating whether it be in the mess halls or the common rooms or whatever it might be

00:35:32.620 on campus, there were big, big talks and big, big debates, bringing in the best of people to talk to

00:35:40.540 young people who really need to understand what is truth. I don't see that happening. I don't hear 1.00

00:35:48.060 about it happening in universities right now, taking up these big issues with strong, knowledgeable,

00:35:54.300 bright advocates for either side and really coming to terms with what the reality is.

00:36:01.900 By the way, I don't hear that happening with the other issues in our society that are so critically

00:36:06.300 important, whether it's gender identification and transfer transgender issues, whether it is

00:36:15.660 what the future will look like in terms of our economy, which way will we go, and what is the right

00:36:24.060 thing for this country to do. So I just want to salute you for speaking out and speaking truth and

00:36:32.460 speaking virtue. Thank you. Thank you for having me on. Thanks, everybody, for being here today. Our

00:36:40.700 guest on The Great America Show, Congressman Eli Crane, Arthur Seamus Bruner, Congressman Tom

00:36:47.260 Tiffany, Senator Ted Cruz, and Abe Hamaday. Please be with us through the week. Please join us each and

00:36:53.500 every day. Follow me on Twitter and true social at Lou Dobbs. And again, thank you, everybody. God bless you,

00:36:59.980 and may God bless America.

The Great America Show - November 08, 2023

UNIVERSITY FACULTIES ARE MARXIST RADICALS

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