The Great America Show with Lou Dobbs. President Joe Biden and the Marxist Dems are everywhere in every aspect of the federal government, from the Education Department to the Department of Education, the Justice Department, the FBI, the CIA, the DEA, the Homeland Security, the Drug Enforcement Agency, and every executive department of the government that now identifies you and me as enemies of the state.
00:01:24.560This is The Great America Show. Welcome and thanks for being with us today.
00:01:29.400There is, as always, a lot going on in our country, and I wonder sometimes how any of us keeps up with even the most important, the most compelling events of any given day.
00:01:40.000But there is no doubt in my mind what the most important issue confronting us today is,
00:01:45.540And that is the vast, pervasive corruption of the federal government.
00:01:50.240From the puppet-impaired and compromised president, to the Department of Justice, the FBI, the intel agencies,
00:01:57.480to every executive department of the federal government that now identifies you and me as enemies of the state.
00:02:05.580The Marxist Dems don't want us to speak up at school board meetings.
00:02:09.300They don't want us to have any say in the education of our children or any say about the schools, including what books our children may read.
00:02:18.860Biden's education secretary, Miguel Cardona, actually said that he doesn't, quote,
00:02:24.740Have too much respect for people who are, as he put it, misbehaving, in public and acting like they know what's right for kids, end quote.
00:02:35.840Folks, these Marxist Dems are over-the-top ignorant.
00:02:39.680And they're everywhere in education and the Biden regime, throughout.
00:02:45.100And there are days I don't think the Republicans are much better.
00:02:47.780They're the ones who call themselves conservatives and patriots, but fund Biden's ignorant and destructive policies.
00:02:56.180They want to fund the DHS, but the Department of Homeland Security has turned the border over to the cartels,
00:03:02.920to illegals, to sex traffickers and deadly drugs that are devastating our society.
00:03:09.600The Republicans on Capitol Hill are just too happy to fund the Education Department,
00:03:14.860the Department of Defense that spends trillions of dollars that buy jet fighters that can't fly in bad weather,
00:03:22.320aircraft carriers that take two decades to put to sea.
00:03:26.580In my opinion, the Republican House has a solemn responsibility right now
00:03:32.240to stop the Biden regime and the Marxist Dems' anti-American policies to save the Republic.
00:03:39.860But the GOP is, simply put, led by a gutless, untalented rhino, Kevin McCarthy, who says,
00:06:12.520And at least the health officials are coming clean for once, if within just narrow margins.
00:06:18.220Even as they boost the boosters and the new vaccines, they for the first time acknowledge the vaccines for flu and the China virus may not prevent infection at all,
00:06:34.780Our guest today has been urging candor and especially truth about the vaccines, the China virus, and its prevention and treatment from the outset of the pandemic.
00:06:45.580With us today is Dr. Robert Malone, physician, epidemiologist, virologist, and research scientist, and inventor of mRNA, or messenger RNA,
00:06:56.580and an outspoken critic of the public health agencies and orthodoxies that were unyielding in their misinformation and disinformation about the virus and vaccines through the pandemic.
00:07:09.400Dr. Malone, it's great to have you with us.
00:07:11.520The FDA approving new vaxes for new variants.
00:07:14.600Yes, President Biden gets his vaccine.
00:07:17.420The drumbeat for vaccine and boosting getting louder by the day.
00:07:25.560And most, if not all of us, have received at least one infection with SARS-CoV-2, if not two.
00:07:33.200And furthermore, the data are quite clear about the effects of these multiple inoculations with these products, which are suppressing immune responses and triggering a number of things related to this technical area called original antigenic sin,
00:07:52.440in which if you keep getting bombarded with a vaccine-like product, you can drive a form of tolerance.
00:08:02.320And the data were already fairly clear.
00:08:05.040Even Peter Marks acknowledged that this is the case.
00:08:07.680But then he dismissed it as not being clinically significant.
00:08:11.200So it certainly suggests more evidence of collusion and relationships between these pharmaceutical entities,
00:08:30.840which, by the way, have had quite a drop in profit recently and in sales because of the huge surge of sales and profit they had before,
00:08:43.820consequent to our government's advocacy for their position.
00:08:47.440I doubt very much that we're going to see global acceptance in these products in the same way that we did in the early days when there was all this fear-mongering.
00:09:00.380Are they going to be able to spin up fear again?
00:09:03.440Are they going to be able to weaponize fear again?
00:09:06.340The evidence suggests that the population is increasingly resistant to this kind of fear-based messaging,
00:09:12.160except for, you know, something like 50% of the population seems to still be very much in the narrative,
00:09:21.400very much believing that the government is acting in their best interest and acting with integrity.
00:09:28.000And, of course, this lands straight in primary season.
00:09:34.080And so absolutely everything relating to this will be politicized.
00:09:38.320I personally think that we have an administrative state whose leaders are still very much invested in the thinking that they did the right thing.
00:09:51.980And I know for sure the Senate believes that they did the right thing, with few exceptions, Ron Johnson being the standout.
00:10:04.940And the only thing that is even open for discussion, it seems, is the origin of the virus and the extent to which USAID, DOD, and NIH funded that manufacturing of the virus at Wuhan.
00:10:22.580Other things just don't seem to be open for discussion.
00:10:25.600And, of course, the person that's driving that is Rand Paul is very much open to discussing the origins of the virus, but not much else.
00:10:34.940So I think we are heading into another politicized public health environment in which there is the potential for additional marketing,
00:10:52.340basically on the part of our government on behalf of these pharmaceutical entities, one of which has absolutely been funded, capitalized, developed, grown with funding from the CIA operational group called DARPA.
00:11:12.620To that point, the Daily Mail reporting that there are U.S. tax dollars still being sent to 27, 27 Chinese laboratories and that research facilities there benefited from another 15 million to perform dangerous, cruel animal experiments, as they put it.
00:11:33.960Despite the fears that COVID leaked from Wuhan, I would say the all but absolute certainty that it was leaked, and I'll put that in quotation marks, from Wuhan.
00:11:48.040I personally believe it was engineered, and it was not mere happenstance, that it descended on the global population when it did.
00:12:00.400Since you and I are the grown-ups in the room, as opposed to all the conspiracy whack jobs that are out there,
00:12:06.440we can both agree that all the evidence clearly points to it having been engineered at the Wuhan Institute of Virology with participation by the U.S. government through a number of agencies,
00:12:21.580and that in some way it emerged from there, and there's no way to discern whether that was intentional or unintentional.
00:12:30.700But there's certainly a case to be made for both.
00:12:35.200The case for natural origin seems to me to be quite contrived, and I think you and I are aligned on that also.
00:12:43.000And I really regret that our intelligence agencies have not been more straightforward and more effective in determining what the strategy or the extraordinary accident, the biological accident was.
00:13:04.680I've unfortunately come to the conclusion that our intelligence community has got their fingers in almost every one of these key issues associated with the COVID crisis.
00:13:16.720As we've all been wondering who is the puppet master behind this, and we've speculated that, you know, as a community, many different things,
00:13:26.160starting with Ernst Wolf's hypotheses about the financial aspect of this and the benefits that accrue to the bankers and the hyper-wealthy through Klaus Schwab, the World Economic Forum, European Royalty.
00:13:40.900We can go on and on and on about the theories.
00:13:43.100But because I've had various senior people within the administration, largely associated with Feds for Medical Freedom, I'd like to just talk about that for a brief moment.
00:13:59.620We're talking with Dr. Robert Malone about the dreaded COVID disease and all of the conspiracies around it.
00:14:10.040And, by the way, some small amount of truth is emerging again in the public, and no small thanks do to Dr. Malone.
00:14:24.440We're back now with Dr. Robert Malone.
00:14:26.840He is, in my opinion, as I've said, I think one of the leading physicians and researchers in all that is transpiring in public health in this country and in fighting the COVID virus pandemic.
00:14:53.100This is an alliance that sprung up organically, this is not AstroTurf, in the D.C. metro area largely, of more senior-level government officials that didn't want to take the jab, that didn't buy into what was happening.
00:15:09.660And I want your listeners to understand that even though we talk about the administrative state and all of the things that are surrounding it, there are good people that work for the government.
00:15:25.180And there are good people, we can call them white hats in the context of the intelligence community, that are starting to speak out and that are not happy with what's happened.
00:15:36.460And a number of them have come and spoken to me privately.
00:15:40.160We always leave our cell phones away so that they can't, you know, listen in, et cetera.
00:15:45.880And one of the things that's come out of those various conversations is truly there has been a number of nefarious activities that have occurred within the federal government.
00:15:57.900For instance, one of the things that's apparently quite common is for these groups that meet and make these high-level decisions, they generally operate under Chatham House rules.
00:16:08.900You're familiar with that, which is to say nobody takes any notes and nobody quotes each other so that nothing can be traced back to a given individual making a decision.
00:16:18.260And I've also learned quite a bit about things that have gone on within the CIA itself.
00:16:24.600The one that's on many of our minds is 9-11 and then the absence of the weapons of mass destruction under Saddam Hussein, the yellow cake that never appeared.
00:16:37.660We've had a number of these major intelligence failures.
00:16:42.720And it appears that the COVID crisis is another one.
00:16:47.880And the question is, how much was that a case of incompetence and how much of that had to do with, I call it nefarious scheming.
00:16:57.660But there's absolutely strong evidence that there were groups within the intelligence community or IC that were tasked with, for instance, sorting out the available data concerning the Wuhan origin of the virus and whether it was a natural origin, a laboratory creation, whether it was a lab leak, et cetera.
00:17:21.520And one of those groups conclusively concluded within the CIA that, in fact, this was a laboratory origin and apparently leaked with low confidence.
00:17:38.480And the reason why they said that low confidence is because all the data had been destroyed.
00:17:43.060The information has been destroyed by the CCP.
00:17:45.740The laboratory samples were destroyed about November of 2019.
00:17:49.720And there's some discussion about whether the origin was in November of 2019 or earlier around the time of the military games.
00:18:04.240The group took their complaints about this activity to the ombudsman at the CIA who determined that they had acted with integrity and they should not have been suppressed.
00:18:19.720But this is the report when you see, for instance, the director of national intelligence's report that we all got to see that's so superficial.
00:18:28.600When he mentions that there was some dissenting opinions within the intelligence community, this is the group that we're talking about, this and the Oak Ridge National Lab group that did their analysis independently.
00:18:41.860So I'm trying to make the point that it was absolutely, in my opinion, the CIA and the intelligence community in general and the broader Five Eyes Alliance intelligence community was absolutely at the center of this whole cascade of, let's gently call it public health mismanagement.
00:19:03.220That's the kindest words I can come up with.
00:19:33.20051 veterans, including five directors of the CIA.
00:19:38.100I have to say, they're in the business of keeping secrets.
00:19:42.400They're not in the business of informing the public.
00:19:44.700I'm of the opinion that they're in the business of doing whatever's necessary to support the president.
00:19:50.480And their ethics have become the ethics of the administrative state, which is to say, actually, no ethics at all, as far as I'm concerned.
00:19:59.440Where the heck were they in support of President Trump for four years?
00:20:04.500I'm of the opinion that they are a group that has a job to do, which has nothing to do with the public's right to know, has nothing to do with delivering the truth to the body politic.
00:20:18.400They're at the core, you said the word, they are at the core of the fifth generation warfare that has been deployed against the American people.
00:20:27.460They are at the core of these false narratives, manipulation of media, censorship, interactions with social media.
00:21:16.580But I believe that there are good Americans throughout the administrative state.
00:21:22.060They may be a minority, but they're there.
00:21:25.020And I'm of the belief that we shouldn't, you know, cast out the baby with the bathwater.
00:21:34.800There's no question we need major reforms.
00:21:37.140In terms of Mr. Trump, the evidence suggests that the administrative state was very much against him.
00:21:44.220And he, in retrospect, as I say in the book, with his Schedule F, for example, trying to reclassify the senior executive service, he was treated as an outsider.
00:22:03.720And there was a concerted effort to neutralize him.
00:22:06.700But, yeah, I think this is all part of the public record.
00:22:10.300I mean, I think this audience knows all of that, if I may put it that way.
00:22:15.640And the reality is that we're not – you were talking about throwing the baby out with the bathwater as if we were about to disband the CIA.
00:22:25.580I assure you, the CIA has nothing to fear from me, okay?
00:22:34.820Well, they have something to fear from RFK Jr. if he gets in, that's for sure.
00:22:39.600Well, you know, and by the way, that's an interesting proposition, but it's also a proposition, I'm sure, in which they're fully engaged in preventing.
00:22:49.020So, you know, we're talking about an agency that I don't think has much to fear from the public.
00:22:56.260You know, I love the old expression, you know, a democracy, this great republic, is when your government fears the people.
00:23:05.320But when the people fear the government, as we do now, we have a historical issue, a historic issue that we have to contend with.
00:23:16.260So, Lou, one of the things that made me kind of turn in this whole narrative of who are the puppet masters, and that is to say, getting back on target, who's behind this latest round of propaganda,
00:23:29.920was a colleague of mine who is senior enough with his security firm that he actually employs a former director of the CIA.
00:23:40.640And we were talking the other day – he's of the same mindset as you and I – about the CIA and about this whole issue of the puppet masters.
00:23:48.680And he said he had spoken to his employee colleague about the agency and asked him straightforward, is this the most powerful organization in the world right now?
00:24:00.320And his colleague thought about it for a moment, and he said, yes, I believe it is.
00:24:06.320The CIA, I think, is the only organization that has the scope, power, capabilities to have pulled off this harmonized propaganda campaign that was deployed globally.
00:24:19.240Remember, the CIA, together with Henry Kissinger, created the World Economic Forum.
00:24:28.000These organizations that are advancing the globalist agenda are all tightly linked to that intelligence community.
00:24:37.660And I'm increasingly of the belief that the last set of presidents, probably since Ronald Reagan, have all had very deep ties with the agency, and particularly Mr. Obama.
00:24:50.980Well, I think that's fascinating, and we'll pick up right there when we continue.
00:25:22.340So what I observe is that his actions have been very much supported by the agency.
00:25:29.980And have been very aligned with agency policy.
00:25:34.120Remember his unwillingness to take any action after Iraq with the various, really, war crimes that occurred.
00:25:44.820And many of us were surprised by that at the time.
00:25:48.400If you watch what he does, remember, he's the guy who advanced the logic most aggressively,
00:25:56.200that censorship was necessary to preserve democracy.
00:26:00.560His speech at the Hoover, in which he advanced that idea like two years ago, was really just an extension of his prior actions when he was president.
00:26:11.420A lot of the policies that have been put in place, including the authorization for the intelligence community to be more aggressively acquiring information from domestic Americans, from citizens,
00:26:25.620that was all really advanced quite aggressively during his administration.
00:26:31.040The logic that censorship and control and propaganda was necessary, that's pretty much central to his administration.
00:26:41.660When you look back, a lot of these things that we're now grappling with have been the consequence of executive actions and policies that were put in place during his administration.
00:26:55.080So I've always just felt at a feeling level that there was something not right about his rapid ascendancy, his relative inexperience, how he interacted with D.C.,
00:27:11.080the ready acceptance of his policies, this willingness to breach what were previously considered norms in the areas of intelligence, anti-terrorism, targeting of offshore civilians.
00:27:27.420Remember, he authorized a drone hit on an American citizen who was acting in a terrorist way.
00:27:35.940But nevertheless, he did authorize that hit.
00:27:39.220There's just been a series of actions that he's taken that have been very aligned with the interests of the intelligence community.
00:27:47.680And really, this modern censorship industrial complex, in my opinion, can be traced right back to the Obama administration in particular.
00:27:58.160Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more because it is the foundational moment that has led to the capacity of this country
00:28:07.560to accept an impaired and obviously compromised president and Joe Biden, knowing full well that he is incapable of any form of leadership that would be meaningful or challenging to the nation's enemies, foreign or domestic.
00:28:24.300Let me turn back to the issue of these drumbeats, as I said at the outset, trying to set us up for it.
00:28:33.860It looks to me like another round of China fear-mongering, China virus fear-mongering.
00:29:21.040So, and when you say we, I think we're really talking about the 20 to 25 percent, maybe 30 percent of people that are awake.
00:29:31.840Within which 5 percent are truly warriors, the rest are a little more passive.
00:29:38.260If that's the we we're talking about, the answer is we should respond with great, great skepticism and wariness.
00:29:46.180This is, you know, COVID crisis 2.0, and this is going to be an opportunity to find out how much we've really accepted the lessons of COVID crisis 1.0.
00:30:01.560Have we learned to respond effectively to the corporate media and their, you know, fear porn or scaremongering, whatever you want to call it,
00:30:11.540their willingness to act as lapdogs to the administration and the administrative state?
00:30:16.720Are we willing to confront the medical establishment that will be all in on this?
00:30:23.540And as we've learned now, they have repeatedly, we've documented their financial incentives to become active agents of this propaganda.
00:30:34.280Are we willing to resist and ready to resist these mandates for lockdowns?
00:30:44.620As you mentioned, school activities, mandated vaccine, quote unquote, products, mask use, et cetera,
00:30:54.280when all the data shows that these things are not effective.
00:30:59.020Are we willing to question these things and resist them?
00:31:03.500And are we willing to to deal with the consequences?
00:31:10.720And the key question here, if you think it through, we now have a number of judicial actions that are coming to maturity.
00:31:20.560And the judiciary has often avoided taking positions on things like medical exemptions and religious exemptions.
00:31:32.660Under the judicial logic that it's now moot, it doesn't matter anymore.
00:31:37.040The government isn't doing that anymore.
00:31:38.620What happens now when we see the government redeploy these same strategies?
00:31:43.720Is the judiciary now primed enough that they're ready to take these things on?
00:31:49.520Because we have cases that relate to these activities, which I believe have been highly illegal, and I think you also,
00:31:56.820that are now at the doorsteps of the Supreme Court.
00:32:00.860Are the Supremes ready to step up and say, no, this is not constitutional, these activities?
00:32:06.740Or are they going to back down again under the guise of national security in a public health crisis that isn't a public health crisis?
00:32:14.900I believe the answer to that is straightforwardly no.
00:32:17.840And that only a vast public demonstration of political will by the citizens of this country to those courts, to our Congress and our Senate will move the needle at all.
00:32:31.240Is there any reason in the world to believe that there is an effective vaccine against the China virus and its variants?
00:32:39.380So remember, going back to 2019 and early 2020, many of us noted that the history of coronaviruses as subjects for vaccine development has been a history of repeated failure.
00:32:55.680And the data now I'm compelled are quite clear that these most recent coronavirus vaccines have neither been safe nor effective.
00:33:08.200In order to make any claims about effectiveness, you really have to stretch the definition of the vaccine.
00:33:14.080But based on the common belief of what a vaccine is, the old school definitions, they have not prevented infection replication or spread.
00:33:26.640They were never sufficiently effective to get to herd immunity.
00:33:31.860And they were not needed in the young.
00:34:05.260And we are likely to see a strong effort to basically market this to Americans in the same way that we had before with a lot of propaganda backed by, as I've reported, and many others, backed by financial incentives to physicians that have been up in the range of $300,000 to $500,000 a year if they get sufficient numbers of their patients vaccinated,
00:34:32.320which is why you see physicians pushing the jab every time you encounter one, is they've been provided with a strong financial incentive.
00:34:40.920Now, what I'm suspicious about here, Lou, is that we have all kinds of red flags dropping on the field right now about another impending financial major slowdown at best.
00:34:55.900And is this really not only a convenience for political purposes as we head into the primaries, but is this also going to be a convenience in order to provide short-term financial stimulus at the expense of the debt by printing money, etc.,
00:35:17.900And that's the kind of stuff that has been going on, is weaponizing public health for political purposes and financial purposes.
00:35:35.720And I see no reason not to be highly suspicious that that's the game being played again.
00:35:42.960And the game being played, we're seeing all sorts of military age, males, Chinese crossing our border now, not just simply Central American, Mexico, South American, as the Biden regime styles the refugees.
00:36:00.280At the same time, a Chinese laboratory detected in California, purely by accident, of course, because we don't have an agency effective enough to discern when there is a foreign threat.
00:36:13.080Because a hose was looking out of a window.
00:36:20.780If this one was detected in a random fashion in the way that it was, and I was just going to say, for those that haven't been following that story, the most worrisome aspect is that there was a large library of pathogenic organisms in that occult laboratory.
00:36:40.180There's no reason for that lab to have those organisms other than it to be doing biologic weapons research.
00:36:49.480It is highly implausible that it would have those agents for any other reason.
00:36:56.200And the government of California, of course, looked the other way as this was happening.
00:37:03.440There's even some talk about Gavin Newsom having directed some funding and support for this laboratory.
00:37:10.180And the odds are very high that there are multiple other occult laboratories like this scattered throughout the United States.
00:37:18.520Russia went to war ostensibly with Ukraine because Americans had biowarfare laboratories sprinkled along the border in Ukraine.
00:37:29.100Now we have evidence of at least one and who knows how many other laboratories that have been sprinkled in an occult fashion, not so above board as is typical of the Chinese to do everything quietly and behind the scenes.
00:37:45.440And we don't even know what the true threat is.
00:37:48.100But we do know that the intelligence community has done threat assessments for this kind of garage biowarfare operation and found that it's very easy to set these things up, particularly along in California in the biotech quarter, where there is a whole lot of used equipment available that would make it cheap and easy to set up these kinds of facilities.
00:38:10.460Yeah, it's truly troubling and troubling doubly so because our government seems uninterested and incapable of carrying out its function as a government that is to defend the country and its citizenry.
00:38:29.660They seem to be more focused on citizens and the threat posed by citizens exercising free speech in terms of the Department of Homeland Security than they are about real threats like border integrity and the flow of illicit drugs across our border that is killing more people than COVID has for a long time now, including fentanyl, of course.
00:38:55.300And now these laboratory threats and now these laboratory threats and they seem to be brushing them off as if there's nothing to see here, just move on.
00:39:05.080It's very it's gets really hard to not go down the rabbit hole that our government has been compromised based on its actions.
00:39:26.820I have to be circumspect in what I say.
00:39:30.860But in terms of my private positions, the evidence is so strong that in particularly the Biden family has been compromised that I think it's no longer really up for debate.
00:39:42.980The question is who and when will anybody be held accountable?