The Great America Show - VICTOR DAVIS HANSON SAYS THE DEMS ARE RADICAL AND THEIR AGENDA IS CONTRARY TO NATURE

00:00:00.120 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs, and we're delighted to have you with us for today's episode of the Great America Show.

00:00:07.180 There was a lot of talk during the midterm election campaigns about disinformation, psyops, misinformation, and propaganda campaigns, and rightly so.

00:00:17.440 Our government, the Marxist Dems, and the Deep State, all are primary originators of the negative noise and false messaging aimed straight at the American people.

00:00:27.760 And all of that noise obfuscating what should be in clear view, that we have a national crisis of reliable information.

00:00:37.380 Where are the facts? It seems we can't even get answers to what should be basic, simple questions.

00:00:43.980 No politics, just facts.

00:00:46.760 Questions like 6 million illegal immigrants have entered the country in 2021 and 2.

00:00:52.580 Where are they? Where do they live? And how? What are they doing? Are they working? Are they on welfare?

00:00:59.300 Are they mostly male or female? Skilled or unskilled? Educated or not? Families or single adults? 0.93

00:01:06.440 We don't know because the federal government refuses to answer those simple questions,

00:01:11.280 and almost any other question that would be material to understanding the impact of our open southern border.

00:01:18.160 And speaking of our open southern border, what is the federal government doing about more than 100,000 fentanyl deaths each year?

00:01:28.920 And our Marxist Dem government can't be trusted anyway, even if they were disposed to answer mere citizens who once had a right to know.

00:01:37.980 But the Marxist Dems ignore our right to know, just as they do so many of our rights.

00:01:43.080 Their rollback of our Constitution is pernicious, it's persistent, and it's been underway since the Obama administration.

00:01:51.140 We're now in the throes of the fundamental transformation of America that Obama promised back in 2008.

00:01:59.080 The Obama transformation evident in nearly all our public institutions.

00:02:04.320 Our courts that are almost as corrupt as the FBI and the Department of Justice.

00:02:08.800 Our Marxist Dem-aligned and directed media that are owned and operated by large multinational corporations

00:02:16.700 whose leftward shift has been breathtaking.

00:02:20.500 And that national leftist media isn't interested in questioning government and corporations.

00:02:26.440 They're interested only in driving their messaging for their corporate masters,

00:02:31.060 in preserving their masters' ideological and economic narratives.

00:02:35.380 In this new era of alienation and polarization,

00:02:39.960 we're left with an electoral system that few citizens trust and most question.

00:02:45.200 We have a president, obviously impaired, and all of Washington and the national media

00:02:49.900 behave as if he weren't losing both himself and his remarks in public appearances.

00:02:55.020 To take up all of this and more, our guest today is classicist, military historian,

00:03:01.880 senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, fellow at Hillsdale College, author and podcaster on the Victor Davis Hanson Show.

00:03:10.000 Victor, great to have you with us.

00:03:11.460 Thanks for being here on the Great America Show.

00:03:14.160 Let's start with what do you think is the hallmark of this uncertain era we're in?

00:03:19.800 The left, the Marxist stems in open conflict with the American way.

00:03:24.460 Our families, our electoral system is in rubble.

00:03:27.360 What do you make of all these troubled times?

00:03:31.200 Well, I think we on the conservative or traditional side kind of underestimate the opposition.

00:03:38.120 We think there's still Democrats that play within the parameters that we're accustomed to, and they don't.

00:03:43.860 They're neo-socialists, really revolutionaries.

00:03:46.340 And sometimes we get a glimpse of it when they want to pack the court or in the filibuster or destroy the electoral college,

00:03:54.040 or they radically change the election so that election day is just a construct.

00:04:00.180 And instead of 30% absentee ballots, now we have 70% of what we call now mail-in or early voting.

00:04:07.160 And that was really the biggest revolution in my life, that we've rendered election day, election night into nothingness.

00:04:16.060 And they've mastered that along with their mastery of technology and Silicon Valley help.

00:04:22.300 And the Republicans are just bewildered by it.

00:04:24.980 They have no response.

00:04:26.140 They don't know anything about vote harvesting or vote curing or third-party harvesting.

00:04:30.980 And so that has really been a striking development.

00:04:36.420 But they are trying, they being the left, wants to refashion the past, whether that's statue toppling or name-changing or institution-destroying.

00:04:48.620 And then in the present, by changing the past, they want to control the future.

00:04:54.760 And they want to convince us that America has always been a bad place.

00:04:59.060 It's worse now than it ever was.

00:05:01.480 And only they can save us by radically renouncing American traditions and customs. 0.87

00:05:07.400 And they're intent on doing it.

00:05:09.780 And until we find an effective response to that and a unified response, I think they're going to make progress, as they did in the mid—

00:05:18.560 I mean, they avoided a historic tsunami, which should have occurred.

00:05:22.040 And any first president loses 20 seats and more if he's under 40 or at 40 percent.

00:05:29.220 We didn't achieve that.

00:05:30.600 We didn't take the Senate back.

00:05:31.960 They usually use a couple of seats in the Senate.

00:05:34.360 They didn't do that.

00:05:35.960 And this was a particularly inept administration with a terrible record, and yet we weren't able to capitalize on it.

00:05:42.860 And now the first thing that happens is the RNC chair, Ronna McDaniel, seeks a re-election.

00:05:49.460 Kevin McCarthy, who is the last—I can't imagine what label would have fit him less well than conservative, wants to be Speaker of the House.

00:06:00.800 And it seems that the electorate, having sent in the largest popular vote in some time in a midterm election, are going to be disappointed because the people they elected are going to choose a liberal Republican to be a leader if all things unfold as it appears now.

00:06:22.920 Yeah, I think so.

00:06:52.900 And that's just—that's not a personal attack on her.

00:06:55.700 That's just logic.

00:06:57.460 Kevin McCarthy, I think, reacts to the environment around him.

00:07:03.220 And at this late date, I don't know how you'd get another speaker other than him because there are no viable other candidates.

00:07:11.020 But he will become more conservative if there's other conservative people, and he feels that that's the trend.

00:07:17.320 And so if you get a very conservative RNC chairman—and, you know, Mitch McConnell is not conservative, and he's got a lot of vulnerabilities, and I think he missed historic opportunities.

00:07:30.760 He had a huge campaign chest.

00:07:32.300 He allotted funds basically on the principle, well, this candidate, if this candidate should win, will he support my leadership role?

00:07:40.840 If he doesn't, then I'm either going to delay funding to the last minute or not fund him at all.

00:07:45.760 And that was intolerable in a close and important race like this.

00:07:50.560 So I think—and yet I don't see any viable means right now in the Senate.

00:07:55.900 They only have about 11 or 12 votes to remove him as party leader.

00:07:59.320 And so until we get a radical new leadership, I don't think you're going to have the type of energy and organization that the Democrats have.

00:08:13.080 I mean, they're ruthless.

00:08:14.360 They don't have the candidates.

00:08:15.740 The candidates, whether it's Fetterman or Biden or Harris, and that's why you alluded to they lose in the aggregate number of votes.

00:08:23.000 But boy, when you put Silicon Valley money into preselected precincts and you change the very mechanism in which we vote to an unaudited, uncertified mail-in procedure, and you outspend three to one, and the opposition has no answer to that.

00:08:42.980 I thought that after 2018 and 2020, the Republicans would have an answer, either to join them and vote harvest or mail-in or to outlaw it in key states, but they didn't either.

00:08:59.720 And so I think we're in this situation.

00:09:02.640 And it's not unusual, Lou, that the Jacobins in France or the Bolsheviks are the hardcore Maoists after World War II and those Chinese civil wars.

00:09:14.200 The minority party that's more disciplined and more zealous and more ruthless often is able to take power over the majority that doesn't believe it can happen here.

00:09:24.720 And I think people are still stunned.

00:09:27.080 They think, wow, I don't understand transgenderism.

00:09:31.180 I live and let live.

00:09:32.100 I don't care what a person does in his bedroom, but I just don't understand this effort to go into the schools and have drag queens show. 0.99

00:09:39.140 What is this?

00:09:40.180 Or they have the attitude of, surely if you hit somebody over the head with an axe or something and you're going to stay in jail for many years.

00:09:49.440 I don't understand why they're getting out.

00:09:51.420 So they're baffled by the extremity of where the left has gone.

00:09:56.140 And they haven't regrouped.

00:09:57.260 They haven't reacted yet.

00:09:58.780 It's like a shock attack.

00:10:00.320 And they're bewildered.

00:10:02.200 They're deer in the headlights.

00:10:04.160 And I believe at the local level, you see greater response than at the national.

00:10:11.300 That is, school boards are suddenly aware of the impetus for parental rights.

00:10:16.960 And parents are reasserting themselves in our public school systems, which is, to me at least, reassuring that there's still enough energy in the communities, the local communities, to care about public schools, which I believe are the great equalizer in our society and has been throughout our history, I believe.

00:10:39.320 You're absolutely right.

00:11:09.320 You're right.

00:11:10.320 You're right.

00:11:11.320 But at the local level, we're doing very well.

00:11:15.160 And we're doing well politically.

00:11:17.820 We're doing well culturally, as we see with this red state attraction that's draining people from the blue states.

00:11:23.740 So we have the paradigm downright at the state level, and we're doing pretty well.

00:11:31.460 Not as well as we maybe would like to do, but pretty well.

00:11:35.360 But we've been disastrous at the national level in the Senate and the presidency and often in the House.

00:11:41.920 The national party is sclerotic.

00:11:46.600 As we look at Kevin McCarthy for speaker, and by the way, I find him, he's a likable fellow.

00:11:55.300 I like him.

00:11:56.220 I don't like Kevin McCarthy.

00:11:58.520 I mean, Mitch McConnell, I should say.

00:12:01.660 Kevin McCarthy, I do like, but he has been utterly inept and ideologically to the left of where I want a leader to be.

00:12:13.540 They simply are playing follow the leader.

00:12:17.340 John Banner brings in Paul Ryan.

00:12:19.540 Paul Ryan brings in Kevin McCarthy.

00:12:21.400 And the rhinoism hardens with each succession. 0.98

00:12:26.980 And we've got to stop this.

00:12:28.960 And Mitch McConnell has been in place without a new idea for so long.

00:12:32.560 It's hard to figure.

00:12:34.500 It is.

00:12:35.400 It is.

00:12:36.000 Especially because we have people, let's say, take the Senate. 0.99

00:12:38.840 We have Ted Cruz or Rick Scott or people, Josh Hall.

00:12:43.060 We have people who are conservative, not only conservative, but they're very talented.

00:12:46.820 And they really understand the left-wing mind.

00:12:49.020 And in the House, I think he's a good friend of mine because he's a neighbor.

00:12:53.500 But I think it was tragic that Devin Nunes went into the private sector at just the moment.

00:12:58.720 You know, he would have been chairman of the Ways and Means Committee.

00:13:01.640 He was scheduled.

00:13:02.480 And he was a fighter.

00:13:03.600 And he understood the left-wing mind.

00:13:06.020 And he was a rock-solid conservative.

00:13:08.880 And so we need more people like that.

00:13:11.720 And I think he would have been in a top leadership role.

00:13:14.140 It would have really made a difference.

00:13:15.540 But I know he had other responsibilities.

00:13:19.020 But we're not getting the young, upstart, conservative, non-orthodox mavericks into positions of power.

00:13:29.640 And that's the problem.

00:13:32.020 And part of it's the left because I think a lot of the people in Washington react to this demonization campaign from the left-wing media that suggests any of our truly conservative leaders are insurrectionists or racists or et cetera, et cetera.

00:13:46.880 And then our party leadership then reacts to that, said, oh, no, no, no, don't worry.

00:13:52.020 We won't appoint that person.

00:13:53.360 That person's not the Republican Party.

00:13:55.900 And it works.

00:13:57.100 It's a very strategically effective way that the left does that.

00:14:01.220 It picks our leaders almost.

00:14:04.460 Exactly.

00:14:05.260 And the effect is Kevin McCarthy becomes speaker.

00:14:10.800 The effect is Mitch McConnell retains power.

00:14:14.240 And Jim Jordan, James Comer, who could be extraordinary, I think, have the capacity to be extraordinary conservative leaders,

00:14:22.460 are they have a secondary role, which is important, the chairman of the judiciary, chairman of oversight.

00:14:33.960 But I'm afraid we're going to see a replication of 2018 when we saw the conservatives and the Republicans talk big about election investigations.

00:14:44.820 But then we watched as it turned out to be nothing more than political performance art and theater without any accomplishment,

00:14:54.640 whether it be the Benghazi hearings, whether it be Jason Chavitz at oversight as a successor.

00:15:00.940 It goes on and on and nothing happens.

00:15:03.960 Yeah, it's really a tragedy because, as you know, the Senate has a little bit more subpoena power.

00:15:11.920 And had we had we taken the Senate, at least in a couple of cases, Rand Paul, for example, would have really, I think,

00:15:21.020 exposed Anthony Fauci and had those redacted emails and a lot of information would have been known.

00:15:27.820 And I think they could have gone in and had Christopher Wray in executive session tell us how many FBI informants and what they were doing on January 6th, things like that.

00:15:38.420 And I'm not sure the House can do that with the leadership they have.

00:15:43.100 But we'll see. I think it was Kevin McCarthy did a very good thing the other day when he said, you know what?

00:15:48.420 Historically, the minority party nominations to committee memberships are always respected by the Speaker.

00:15:56.480 But since Nancy Pelosi violated that age old canon, I'm going to do the same thing.

00:16:02.400 And we're not going to have Adam Schiff or Swalwell or some of the squad on particular members.

00:16:09.300 And he stuck to that. But he needs to do more of that, because unfortunately, the left feels that we play by the mark as the Queensbury rules.

00:16:19.360 And we lose nobly and they went ugly.

00:16:23.000 And at some point, we have to conclude, I think, as well, that the Republican Party just is bereft of real fire, real purpose nationally.

00:16:37.680 And irrespective of the sort of dead documents they produce from time to time about aspirations and what they will deliver to the public,

00:16:46.920 it's meaningless because there is no identity for the party.

00:16:52.420 There is no uniformity to it.

00:16:55.620 And whereas the Republicans have plenty of rhinos, Republicans in name only, the Democrats don't have any dinos.

00:17:03.060 They are in lockstep.

00:17:06.560 They enforce, Nancy Pelosi enforced a vicious unity and orthodoxy on all our members, no matter what. 0.80

00:17:14.860 And she was ruthless in doing that.

00:17:17.740 And they had enormous she rule, even with a seven or six or seven to eight, depending on the vacancies margin, as if she had 40 seats in the House. 0.98

00:17:28.280 She got almost everything she wanted and much more effective than the Democratic Senate in a way. 1.00

00:17:34.200 But we don't do that.

00:17:35.220 But the irony is that on the local, regional, state level, the Republicans did get, oh, four or five million more votes in this midterm.

00:17:44.920 And they have widened the party.

00:17:47.020 And so that they're getting 45 percent of the Mexican-American vote in some places.

00:17:51.840 And that's unusual.

00:17:53.100 Maybe 15 percent of black males.

00:17:55.700 Asians are starting to go back a little bit to the Republican Party.

00:17:59.640 They brought back the old white working class, Reagan voter that had sat out the McCain and Romney candidacies.

00:18:09.500 So there was there's elements to the MAGA agenda that Trump created that were very effective.

00:18:15.580 And they're still there.

00:18:17.260 They just need they just need leadership at the top.

00:18:20.320 The philosophy, the ideology of America first, make America great again.

00:18:31.000 Does it hold as much power, do you believe, for the Republican Party and its potential in 2024 as it did, for example, in 2016?

00:18:43.040 Your thoughts about that.

00:18:44.320 And obviously, I'm relating that to the Trump candidacy as well.

00:18:47.560 Yeah. Well, I think you're right about that.

00:18:52.120 Not on the issues as you intone.

00:18:54.360 I mean, the issues are there.

00:18:55.760 When you look at the failures of the Biden administration, a MAGA corrective is the only corrective.

00:19:01.960 Close the border.

00:19:02.940 We know what happens when you don't do that.

00:19:05.180 And energy self-sufficiency is a corrective to draining in the Strategic Petroleum Reserve and tough on crime and getting tough with China.

00:19:14.580 Yeah. All of it. And fair trade rather than just free trade.

00:19:18.040 Everybody understands that.

00:19:20.940 Maybe we need more fiscal discipline that we didn't have under Trump.

00:19:24.340 But that was during Pop Pop, partly because of the he was convinced because of the covid mess to sort of open up the cash spigots.

00:19:33.100 But nevertheless, that MAGA agenda is stronger and more resonant than ever.

00:19:38.160 I think the problem is, though, that Donald Trump, being an outsider and being almost a revolutionary, counter-revolutionary, had no margin of error.

00:19:49.800 We saw that with the Mueller investigation, the two impeachments, impeach him as a private citizen, the Mor-a-Lago raid.

00:19:57.860 And that's the reality.

00:20:00.460 And that means he has to have absolute discipline.

00:20:04.200 And by that, I mean, right on the edge of the midterms, it's not strategically wise to attack Ron DeSantis.

00:20:12.120 Not that he won't have to do it.

00:20:14.000 You know, that's a fair play, but not right before the midterms.

00:20:18.160 And maybe, you know, if you're Barack Obama and you take a picture with Farrakhan, they're going to suppress it in 2005 so it doesn't resurface until 2017.

00:20:31.140 If you're Donald Trump, you should know in advance that if you have a dinner anywhere near Mr. Fuentes, that is lethal.

00:20:39.280 And that's going to offend the five to eight percent independence that you need in addition to the MAGA Bay.

00:20:44.820 So what I'm getting at is his agenda was what saved the Republican Party in 2016.

00:20:51.580 And I think it had some four of the best years of governance in my lifetime, even perhaps better than Reagan.

00:20:58.660 But Trump, because of his controversial nature, has to have absolute discipline, given the forces arrayed against him.

00:21:07.720 And at times, he either doesn't understand that or he has advisors that don't advise him.

00:21:14.100 I don't know what it is, but the left is just waiting to pounce on everything he says.

00:21:19.680 And unfairly so, but that doesn't change the reality that when they make these arguments against him, he gives them a slight opening and they exploit it.

00:21:27.380 But you look at the polls and you don't get that independent voter that's necessary to get up to 50, 51 percent.

00:21:36.200 Because the MAGA base is rock solid, but it's about 40 to 45 percent of the voting public.

00:21:42.440 And for him to win, and he's got to win because he's got to exercise more discipline.

00:21:48.260 And I don't know where he gets that extra 5 percent.

00:21:51.580 He's doing very well with Mexican-Americans.

00:21:54.320 If he could get up to 50, 55 percent, and same with blacks, up to 20 percent, it's out there somewhere. 1.00

00:22:02.400 But he's got to find it and he's got to exercise discipline so they don't exploit what he says.

00:22:08.540 And I know they're going to try to do it anyway, but he can't give them any opening at this late date.

00:22:14.340 He's got too many responsibilities.

00:22:16.180 There's too many people counting on him that he can't make any strategic or even tactical lapses.

00:22:24.220 The other day I said that Ron DeSantis and Donald Trump have exactly opposite issues.

00:22:35.700 One has to control his personality and the other has to create and put a personality in front of the American people,

00:22:44.680 if either is to be the nominee of the Republican Party.

00:22:47.860 That's a good point.

00:22:49.140 And, you know, I love President Trump.

00:22:53.840 But I have to say, having Fuentes and Ye down for dinner at Mar-a-Lago, his advisers, who ever permitted that, really, I would have them removed immediately.

00:23:08.560 Oh, I would.

00:23:09.780 I would have had them fired. 0.70

00:23:11.360 He should come out with a much stronger statement and say that he wants to apologize. 0.93

00:23:16.480 And even though he didn't understand of the situation he was getting in, he should have understood because Fuentes is an out-and-out anti-Semite and white supremacist. 0.95

00:23:26.900 And he pollutes everything. 0.97

00:23:28.000 He gets near.

00:23:29.340 And I think you're right about DeSantis and Trump.

00:23:32.380 DeSantis, the mystery about him was not his competency, governance, not his conservatism, but just two issues.

00:23:40.040 One was, would he have the fire in the belly that Trump had?

00:23:44.880 We knew he didn't have the charisma to get on, but when he took on Disney and he busts the illegal immigrants and he really took on the school boards, 1.00

00:23:54.920 I think he showed everybody that he was not going to be a Romney-like figure, that he was a combative conservative, which we needed.

00:24:02.560 The only other issue that I see remaining with him is that, I don't know if you've noticed that, but a lot of the never-Trumper large donors especially see DeSantis, not DeSantis himself, 0.52

00:24:17.560 but they see him as entree back into the party as an alternative to Trump.

00:24:23.200 And that's a little worrisome because I think they feel that they can influence DeSantis to tack back to the center and become a Bush,

00:24:32.500 and then they can rejoin the party and control it.

00:24:34.980 And I think he has to be aware of, and that's a difficult position because they have so much money and they control the establishment on the conservative side,

00:24:43.220 but at least some of them do.

00:24:45.280 So I think that's the only mystery.

00:24:46.680 Will DeSantis say, no, I'm a MAGA candidate.

00:24:50.240 This is a populist nationals party.

00:24:52.300 And I welcome you to support me, but I'm not going to change positions so that you're going to get a Jeb Bush.

00:25:00.600 And I think if he can reassure people, then I think it's going to be a very close race between him and Trump.

00:25:07.220 I think you're right, and it's going to be the challenge for both men as they seek the nomination.

00:25:13.580 The money is more complicated this time without question.

00:25:19.080 I want to turn to, because you're talking about China.

00:25:22.300 At the outset of this discussion, I see a collision that we are all witnessing, this collision between Elon Musk and the donor class, if you will,

00:25:33.640 the corporatists and the globalist elites over the issue of free speech.

00:25:41.500 And here we are with both Elon Musk dependent, all three of his companies are dependent in some way on China.

00:25:53.880 And Tim Cook of Apple, he's almost entirely dependent on China for the production of his company's products.

00:26:03.520 They're colliding over the issue of free speech.

00:26:08.280 Musk has certainly staked out the ground of free speech for himself over Twitter.

00:26:15.480 Where is this going to end?

00:26:17.360 Because both men are at risk.

00:26:21.180 Musk is putting his entire fortune at risk by taking that position.

00:26:25.440 Your thoughts about the quality, the character, and the conclusion of this collision.

00:26:34.280 Yeah, I think ultimately the left, again, I think the left looks at Twitter,

00:26:42.080 and they know what they did with Twitter and how it was used, i.e. as they used Google and Facebook,

00:26:48.340 and they said to themselves, this guy is going to do what we would do if we were in his position.

00:26:55.900 And that frightens us because he is going to, and he's not, he's going to open it up to everybody.

00:27:01.100 But they don't believe that.

00:27:02.780 They believe that he would be like they would if they were in that position.

00:27:07.980 So they're going to try to destroy him.

00:27:09.760 I don't know if they're going to be able to put him off the app in the way they destroyed Parler,

00:27:13.480 because there is a Republican House that will have some investigatory ability to call him in.

00:27:20.400 And they're a little tentative still.

00:27:22.220 But any opportunity they can get to destroy Twitter or Elon Musk, they'll take.

00:27:28.720 Just right now, I think they're putting out feelers and they're faints,

00:27:32.680 and they're trying to see where the vulnerable spot is because they're terrified.

00:27:38.260 That, and I think Elon Musk is, we know now why he became so wealthy.

00:27:45.680 He's got a low, I mean, a high cunning.

00:27:48.820 He can understand human nature pretty well.

00:27:51.200 And he knows that he's got a defined amount of time that he's going to be able to operate

00:27:59.740 independently before these forces collude against him.

00:28:03.640 And they're formidable.

00:28:04.440 I know he's the richest man in the world, but when you put Google and Apple and Facebook

00:28:09.600 and all of those Silicon Valley companies and $9 trillion of market capitalization against him,

00:28:16.880 and they have more, they haven't even as much or more Chinese in aggregate context than he does,

00:28:23.120 and they have more clout with the Democratic controlling party than he does,

00:28:28.340 then he's got to do something.

00:28:29.700 So I don't know if that something is, it might be just to have a huge document drop to show the world what they were doing.

00:28:37.480 I think he will do that in the next couple of weeks with the archives of Twitter

00:28:41.820 and show that they were really fascistic in the way that they went after their political enemies

00:28:46.780 and suppressed free expression.

00:28:48.240 And he's going to have to be preemptory or they're going to destroy him.

00:28:52.620 And I think they have the ability to destroy him.

00:28:54.380 But he's very canny, and that's what's reassuring about him.

00:28:58.940 There's something about a guy who can land a rocket on its tail.

00:29:03.740 Absolutely.

00:29:04.800 That makes me think this is a fair fight.

00:29:08.520 He is a remarkable individual.

00:29:11.380 We all knew that he was a genius.

00:29:13.820 But as you say, his humanistic comprehension, his humanist comprehension is amazing.

00:29:23.180 His EIQ is extraordinary.

00:29:27.040 You're absolutely right.

00:29:27.820 He makes something.

00:29:28.660 I think everybody is so tired, especially after the Bankman-Fried collapse,

00:29:34.220 the Elizabeth Holmes-Theranos collapse,

00:29:37.280 all of the silicon money built on tech.

00:29:40.440 This guy actually goes out and he builds a car

00:29:43.380 and makes it into the biggest car company in the world.

00:29:46.860 And then he actually goes out and builds rockets that works

00:29:49.860 after our failures for years of NASA.

00:29:53.040 And there's something concrete, material, and real about what he does.

00:29:56.960 It's not just cyber this or tech this out in space.

00:30:01.200 You can see it, you can feel it, and it makes lives better for people.

00:30:05.100 And I think everybody admires that about him.

00:30:07.100 And I think they admire the hysteria that he incurs in the left.

00:30:11.640 They're just scared of this guy.

00:30:13.020 And I think part of their terror is that they've never faced somebody with that skill set

00:30:18.680 or that formidable intelligence and energy before,

00:30:22.760 and kind of off-the-wall unpredictability.

00:30:26.220 And I think they don't know what to do with him.

00:30:29.260 The combination of disruptor and extraordinary creator and builder is a wonder to behold.

00:30:40.780 He's really quite remarkable.

00:30:42.900 I think that this is going to be fascinating because all of these forces are coming together at one time.

00:30:52.240 And Elon Musk, if not at the center of it, he's very near at the center of it because of China, 0.76

00:30:59.340 his involvement, his dependency, but also his amazing breadth of talent and scope to all of his achievements.

00:31:09.400 It's going to be something to watch.

00:31:12.400 As I might be giving away, I'm pulling for him for all the world

00:31:18.040 because I think he was admonished for saying that this is a fight for civilization.

00:31:25.240 I don't think that's hyperbole in any way right now in this moment in which we find ourselves.

00:31:31.320 I always give our guests the last word, and I am never more pleased to do so

00:31:38.080 than ask Victor Davis Hanson for the concluding thoughts for this episode.

00:31:42.700 Well, I think we remain optimistic.

00:31:46.240 And you mentioned that the Republicans got the greater popular vote in the midterms.

00:31:51.500 And I think we look at what's happening in America is they control the institutions,

00:31:56.700 corporate, boardroom, Wall Street, Silicon Valley, entertainment, professional sports.

00:32:01.320 But we are the people, and all we need is sort of an Elon Musk type of leader that gives us confidence

00:32:08.140 and says, look, you've got to channel your natural majorities into effective governance.

00:32:13.460 You don't have a margin of error because these people are serious revolutionaries.

00:32:17.420 They have the money.

00:32:18.980 It's not the Republicans on the Fortune 400 anymore.

00:32:21.800 The top names are left-wing, and they give more money, and the foundations are left-wing.

00:32:25.660 So you have formidable opposition, but their agenda is contrary to nature.

00:32:31.640 Yours isn't.

00:32:32.920 It's practical.

00:32:34.480 It's what human nature is.

00:32:35.920 If people break the law, they get punished.

00:32:38.220 If you have a border, you enforce it.

00:32:40.300 The nuclear family is the source of American stability.

00:32:43.480 The entrepreneurial free market system is the only one that works.

00:32:48.160 So we have the issues.

00:32:49.540 We have the common sense.

00:32:51.160 And I think eventually we'll get it right so that popular support is expressed in control of government,

00:32:58.460 and we have political power again.

00:33:00.240 And we will generate some enthusiasm on the part of the national Republican leadership as well.

00:33:10.360 Victor Davis Hanson, it is always a pleasure to talk with you, to listen to you,

00:33:14.360 and to have you join us here on The Great America Show.

00:33:17.180 Thanks so much, Victor.

00:33:18.420 Well, thank you for having me.

00:33:21.060 Thanks, everybody, for being with us for this edition of The Great America Show.

00:33:25.060 Please follow me on Twitter and Truth Social at Lou Dobbs.

00:33:28.880 That's at Lou Dobbs on Twitter and Truth Social.

00:33:32.780 Our guest tomorrow is the New York Post's terrific columnist, Miranda Devine.

00:33:37.360 We'll be taking up the attacks on the richest man in the world

00:33:40.540 because Elon Musk insists on freedom of speech on Twitter.

00:33:45.000 And, of course, the latest on the Hunter Biden laptop scandal

00:33:48.320 and the likelihood of ever bringing the president's son to justice.

00:33:53.060 Please join us here tomorrow.

00:33:54.580 Till then, thank you, and God bless you.

00:33:57.260 And may God bless America.

The Great America Show - December 05, 2022

VICTOR DAVIS HANSON SAYS THE DEMS ARE RADICAL AND THEIR AGENDA IS CONTRARY TO NATURE

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