VICTORIES DON’T HAVE TO BE RED WAVES
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Summary
Lou Dobbs reacts to the results of the mid-term elections and talks with Rep. Claudia Tenney, D-New York, who was re-elected to the U.S. House of Representatives. Lou also talks about the Democratic tsunami, and whether or not it was a red wave or a blue wave.
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Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs, and welcome to The Great America Show.
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I have to be straightforward with you from the very beginning. I had hope leading up to this
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week that the midterm elections would, in some profound ways, resolve important issues that
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divide our nation and our people. I know you, perhaps most of us, were, in fact, hoping for
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the same resolution. Of course, an election that ended on our own terms with our values and
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philosophy and beliefs held up by most, if not all, of our countrymen, our fellow patriots.
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We didn't succeed, did we, in that hope? But we did make advances in that direction.
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Our existential midterm election has answered some important questions in and about America,
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and did succeed in halting, at least momentarily, our blind descent into open conflict in our
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fractured society. But yesterday's vote didn't answer all our questions or truly and finally
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resolve our conflicts between warring parties and between our visions for this great republic
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and all Americans united. It was supposed to be a great red wave, a red tsunami, predicted by a
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number of pollsters and politicos, and most of us had hoped against hope that we would see that
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unfold. So, no, we didn't win a wave. We didn't win a transformational victory, nor a mandate.
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But we did win victories, like the re-election of Congresswoman Claudia Tenney of New York.
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We talked with her last night as she celebrated her re-election to the House of Representatives.
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Congratulations, Representative Tenney, on winning re-election. You're a terrific force in Congress,
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and I know you have to be pleased with your margin of victory, richly deserved.
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Well, thank you so much. It's been a tremendously difficult year in New York. We've had redistricting,
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lawsuits, two primaries, lots of confusion. And I have a very new district that thankfully looks
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favorably on me as I had a big primary win, and now we're seeing an even bigger general election win,
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which I'm really grateful to the voters and hoping to see a little more excitement on the statewide
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level. I know we've got a lot of tight races here, but there's still a lot of votes to be counted,
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and we're hoping that these are going to come down to the wire, and we're going to see some big
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winds, and we're going to take back the House. Well, as you would say, it looks like there's
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going to be some headwinds. Is it your judgment that that tsunami is now perhaps more of a wave,
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or perhaps is it even not a red wave? I was always cautious about this. I thought we would
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probably gain around 15 seats, and I still think that we're probably on track to do that.
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I see some big winds out there still. It's early. You don't know what you can watch on TV. You don't
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know where these votes are coming unless you've got the inside data. Because I know, first of all,
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you see them all come out, and they're all early votes popping out first. And then you're going to
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see the early votes are typically Democrats. The absentee ballots are typically Democrats,
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usually two to one margin. So you're going to see as the numbers come in, the Republican
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candidates chip away at those. And that's what we're seeing. So a lot of the votes are just
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starting to come in. A lot of confusion. Obviously, we see issues in Arizona. But it's going to be
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interesting to see what ultimately happens when we get to the end here. I see some nice wins out of
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Virginia. I see Glenn Youngkin was on. Some good wins out of New York. I think Michael Lawler is
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looking really strong. It should be interesting to see who ends up winning. You know, they're not
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showing, they're only showing the swing seats. They're not showing a lot of the big wins that we could be
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seeing down in New York, in Long Island, where although it looks like Lee Zeldin is not going
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to prevail here yet. He was very strong in different parts of the state, including Long Island, where
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he's from in New York. So I see that there's still a lot of a lot of votes to be counted. So it's going
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to come down to the wire. Thankfully, I'm not going to be the one with my votes down to the wire as I was
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in 2020, where I was up by 28,422 votes and ended up only winning by 109. And that's after 100 days in
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court. But we fought it out. We started the Election Integrity Caucus. As I've cautioned everyone who
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talks about this red wave, red tsunami, we have huge issues we've got to deal with with election
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integrity. And we are going to continue to work on those issues. So I'm hoping that we're going to,
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you know, continue to correct that as time goes forward. And, and we take back the House this,
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this year. As bad as the state of this economy has been, and is the pain that's been inflicted by this,
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this puppet president, this election is far, far closer than anyone, I think, frankly,
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a conservative Republican independent could have ever imagined. Your thoughts?
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Yeah, it is very close. And that's because we have a lot of problems with communication. We've got
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a media that is in the tank with the left wing and the Democrats. We have Democrats who
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don't acknowledge, you know, that, that we are a constitutional republic. We keep hearing about
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democracy, democracy. You know, we are a constitutional republic that's self-governing.
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We are not a straight democracy. And that's by design, because our founders were concerned about
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the tyranny of the majority. It's one of the reasons, you know, I'm a former newspaper owner.
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I'm an attorney. I explain every vote that I take in the House because I want to decode what's going
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on in Washington. I want the voters to know that they, what, what, why bills are named a certain way
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and they don't do what they say they're going to do. I want to make sure that the public is able to be
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self-governing. Remember, that was the quintessential question that Lincoln asked during one of the
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worst moments in our nation's history. The civil war was the question of, yeah, can we save the
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republic? But more importantly, can we be self-governing? And we're at that precipice.
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And it looks to me right now, like New York state is not in a position to be self-governing. I'm very
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concerned about the future of New York state. If we continue with one party rule and the kind of tyranny
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and the kind of authoritarianism we're seeing from Kathy Hochul, unprecedented.
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She makes Andrew Cuomo look like someone who's a moderate. And this is a, this is a, I'm very,
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very worried about the future of New York state. I'm very worried that the empire state is going
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to look like the exodus state if we don't take back some of these key seats in Congress and we
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don't chip away at some of these Senate seats and also a number of the assembly seats that,
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to take back the super majority that they hold in the New York state legislature. I think what you're
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seeing, you know, you see the Democrats talking about Ron DeSantis saying, you know,
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oh, he won because he gerrymandered. And my question is, yes, he moved all kinds of Republicans
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from the Northeast where they didn't feel their government was working for them. And they moved
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to Florida where they could find freedom and a governor that actually represented their values.
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And that's why you see a resounding win out of not just Governor DeSantis, but all the waves he
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brought through big wins in Miami-Dade, those areas which are traditionally Democrat areas,
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he brought in a huge number of votes. Maria Salazar winning with big numbers, Carlos Jimenez winning
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in big numbers. It was amazing. So I'm looking forward to seeing the rest of the votes coming
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in, but I'm seeing now, as we flip through the screens here on my TV, that more and more Republicans
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are coming in. So I don't think the wave is going to be as big as some projected, but it's going to be about
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where I projected. And that's because I'm concerned about election integrity and whether we're really
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getting our message out there on that issue. And to that issue, Congresswoman, Maricopa County in
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Arizona, machine problems. Also in New Jersey, as we look around the country, Pennsylvania, some of the
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the original problem states, certainly. Having problems once again with two years to prepare,
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it's inexcusable. Electoral integrity is, as you are demonstrating through your leadership,
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is absolutely critical. Yet we still have three major electronic voting companies, private companies,
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who are all unregulated. And that is just a straightforward fact. I don't want them,
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frankly, regulated by the federal government. I want them regulated by state governments, but
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they're not even that. Most secretaries of state and county clerks who administer, who run elections in
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the states don't even know what a machine is or what happens in that little black box. Can you speak to that?
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Yeah, it's a huge, it's an issue. Look, it should be one citizen, one vote. You're seeing the
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vote diluted by attempts to put non-citizens in to vote in our elections. You see a move by Democrats,
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particularly in New York, against having a photo ID to vote, which has been, it's an 85 percent winner
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when you deal with all, across all polling, all demographics and all ethnicities. Everybody agrees that
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that's something they want. But I mean, it's really about being bold enough to get the message out
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there and not be accused of being an election denier. This is what the Democrats are so effective
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at saying. You challenge an election or the situation in an election, and suddenly you're an election
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denier. I've had Democrats in New York City, where it's all about primaries there because they're all
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Democrats, complain to me and say, we need election integrity. I'm like, join my caucus. And you know,
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they end up losing in primaries. They have issues down there. But because they, the majority ruling
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class of the Democrats in New York, they don't want to fix it. And that's what you're seeing around the
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country. We need to be bold and we need to take this seriously. We cannot let the Democrats continue
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what they've been doing to undermine our elections while they accuse us. That's exactly what they're
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doing. While they suppress the vote, we want every citizen to vote because guess what happens? And we
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have huge turnouts. Republicans win. And that's because people feel trust in the system. So it's
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a never ending fight. We've got to continue on that on that on that vein. We thank you very much,
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Congresswoman, for being with us. Thank you so much. Congratulations. Thank you for the kind words.
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Yeah, thank you. It is, as Congresswoman Tenney said, a never ending fight. While some of our elected
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officials like Congresswoman Tenney are pursuing important and critical public policy goals,
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our media of all kinds, but last night, mostly the cable and TV network kind,
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press propaganda and refer to Republican politicians and elected officials who question the integrity of
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the 2020 election as election deniers. They insist that you not be properly skeptical of all media in
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this age of disinformation and lies, particularly of the political kind. Here's CNN's John King asking
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his audience to suspend their critical judgment and rely on the good work of government,
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especially the government most proximate, closest to you.
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Keeping an eye on that one. That's good. But you see, that's our first votes. And that's the
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wonder of democracy, whether you're a Democrat or Republican. And I wanted to point that out
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to be a little bit of the crank in the room following Brianna there. Stay off social media,
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people. If you're trying to figure out, if you're trying to figure out, are there really issues with
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voting? Trust your local officials. Trust us here. Trust a news source that you know and trust to be
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honest about this. They're doing their jobs and they're doing it right. I offer another request
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of you. Don't suspend your critical judgment, please. Especially when it comes to politics,
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government and media, all of it, but particularly corporate media. And when it comes to elections,
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we need to first speak honestly about them. And when there's a question about irregularity
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or anomaly or outright appearance of impropriety or fraud, we should investigate. And we, the public,
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should have the answers forthwith. And certainly, at least in the time it takes to hold an election
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and to count the votes. Until then, the clock is ticking on the survival of our great republic.
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Let's fight. And let's fight to win. Thanks for being with us. Thanks for voting. And here tomorrow,
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our guest will be Congressman Andy Biggs, former head of the Congressional Freedom Caucus,
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and a great American. Till then, God bless you. And may God bless America.