WAR ROOM’S STEVE BANNON PREDICTS GOP WINS FOR LAXALT, MASTERS AND WALKER TO GIVE GOP CONTROL OF HOUSE AND SENATE
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MAGA Warrior Steve Bannon is in Arizona campaigning for President Trump's 2020 re-election campaign. He is joined by Lou Dobbs to discuss why the Republican Party is filled with so many Rhinos and why they keep electing Democrats in GOP costumes.
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Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs. Welcome to The Great America Show, and thanks for being with us.
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Today, we're ticking up the election that just keeps on going, and it seems like the Republican
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Party just doesn't want to ask any unpleasant questions, like why in the world are they still
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counting ballots in Nevada and Arizona? This is just simply crazy, and it drives me crazy that
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the Republican Party is filled with so many rhinos, and somebody keeps electing these Democrats in GOP
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costumes, and it's got to stop. Whose side do Republicans think these rhinos are on? If they
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were America first, if they were maggot of the bone, they wouldn't be rhinos, would they? As you know,
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I get upset about these rhinos, and with good reason, I think. And speaking of rhinos, Mitch McConnell is
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on my mind a lot these days. Take a listen to some of these numbers. In Arizona, Blake Masters was
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outspent by Dem Senator Mark Kelly, $73 million to Masters, $9 million. In Georgia, Hersher Walker
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was outspent by Dem Raphael Warnock, $76 million to $32 million for Walker. In Nevada, Adam Laxalt
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outspent. Democrat Catherine Cortez spent $47 million, Laxalt only $12 million. And in New
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Hampshire, Don Boldoc was outspent $36 million to $2 million by the winner, Democrat Maggie Hassan.
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Now, each one of those races, we might not have won, but with money, we sure would have picked up at
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least a few. What is Mitch McConnell doing, and why is the Republican Party putting up with him
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in leadership? I'm pleased to say that our guest today is a MAGA warrior. The War Room's Steve
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Bannon with us will be taking up what the hell is going on in this party of ours. Soon, it will be
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their party if we don't scrub down the grand old party and excuse these buttercups and daffodils from
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further participation in the Republican Party. At least in elections. Maybe let these rhinos go to
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dinners and donate at fundraisers, but I don't think we should hear from them otherwise. Now,
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we've got these rhinos, the establishment types as well, going after President Trump. All he did,
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of course, was about 30 rallies. He endorsed and campaigned for about 200 candidates,
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and at last count had lost 14 races. That's a 93% one loss percentage, folks. That's an amazing
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success rate, and we've got do-nothing, know-nothing rhinos suddenly attacking President Trump.
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Are you kidding me? Paul Ryan? This guy and his milquetoast buddy, Mitt Romney, are nothing more
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than weak-kneed rhinos insanely jealous of President Trump because he did what they couldn't. He won.
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And he delivered on his campaign promises. They're haters. Trump's a builder. He's worked for
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families, working people, and yes, faith in the public square. And the rhinos and Marxist
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dims are the same now. They want big government, ever bigger government. They're tied up with a deep
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state, and they've let corruption rage in the federal government for decades. We have two states
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still counting, and for the life of me, I don't understand why even the rhino Ronna McDaniel
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has a job as head of the RNC, first of all, and why she doesn't have hundreds of attorneys all over
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Maricopa County, Arizona, where the dims are obviously delaying the vote count, trying to cheat
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Carrie Lake out of the governorship. Much the same is happening in Nevada. Right now, the counting is
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stopped while Adam Laxalt, GOP Senate candidate, is leading. But the delay? For what reason?
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The Marxist dims aren't saying, but there could only be one logical answer. They need more time to
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figure out how to come up with the votes necessary to overcome Carrie Lake and Adam Laxalt. The question
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is, will it work? Where are the rhino NRC lawyers, the GOP lawyers in Arizona and Nevada? It stinks to
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high heaven that more hasn't been done. Our guest today has been out in Arizona campaigning for MAGA
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candidates. He's the former chief strategist for President Trump, now the host of Steve Bannon's
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War Room. Great American, Steve Bannon. Great to have you back with us, Steve. What is going on with
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these elections? It looks like we'll win back the House, a slim possibility in the Senate. What
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happened? Well, look, I think that, you know, we had the issues. We had, I think, some great candidates.
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We had some candidates maybe not that great, maybe came off message. I think those are the
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non-MAGA candidates. And I actually think, Lou, for what we had to accomplish and what
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we tried to do, it was a daggone good night. I think we've got to sit around and just work
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hard over the next 48 hours and see if we've got how many seats in the House we actually
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closed. We fired Nancy Pelosi. We've just got to know if that's going to be 220, 225, 230, right?
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And what that majority is and who's actually going to be speaker, because I think there's
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a lot of things in play. On the Senate side, I have Adam Laxalt, I think, is going to win.
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I believe that Blake Masters, when all these votes are counted in Arizona, and that's a
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moving situation I'm pretty familiar with, I think Blake Masters will win. And if he doesn't,
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we'll win with Herschel Walker in 30 days from now. So that'll be, we'll take the House and
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the Senate. Schumer and Pelosi are both fired, and we have to have leaders that are going to
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make sure that they implement the covenant we made with the American people. As far as governors,
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I mean, in Florida, massive day, Georgia, massive day. And really, the most important to me is
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Arizona. In fact, I think that entire ticket's going to win if you can understand the math. So no,
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I think Kelly Chewbacca may beat Murkowski in Alaska. So I think, was it the great night that we
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thought we could possibly have? No, it was not. Was it a good night? I thought it was a very good night,
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and it gives us enough to work with to shut down. The Biden regime ended last night. The
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mainstream media doesn't want to report that. They want to get into all this nonsense between
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Trump and DeSantis, which is just noise, not signal. The signal is next 48 to 72 hours have
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to close all of these House seats. They're going to be tough. You're going to go to court on some,
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recounts for others. We got a lot of low-hanging fruit there that we must close on, not like 2020.
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And the same in the Senate. I think this Blake Masters name could go to court. I think
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Lacksaw will win. I think Blake Masters will win eventually, and if not, Herschel Walker will win
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in 30 days, or maybe Herschel Walker is the 52nd Senator.
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I would love for your analysis to be the pathway to the future. I am sitting here thinking,
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and I started thinking seriously about it some time ago, but the Republican Party continues to march
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ahead with liberal leaders, whether it's Mitch McConnell or Kevin McCarthy, and no one seems to
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want to have that conversation in either conference. The Republicans want to follow the most liberal
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Republicans, and the Democrats are following the most aggressive Marxist leftists in the country.
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And they're succeeding, and the Republicans are not now at least succeeding. They have reached a draw,
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I will call. I think this is a draw, what happened on the 8th and over the next few days. It looks like
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a draw to me. It feels like a draw because of the expectations. So what are we going to do about
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leadership? Because these people just aren't, aren't, they're not killers. They're not great.
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The reality is we can't, I don't know how we're going to change leadership until President Trump
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changes his attitude. Look, both these leaders are here because of President Trump. Let's be blunt.
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He went out and endorsed Crapo. He endorsed Moran. He endorsed Boozman. He endorsed
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Burasmo. He endorsed five or six guys out of the box, which are all primaried and all infected.
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Jake Bechtel down in Arkansas, he had a fabulous candidate. He endorsed five of McConnell's closest
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friends. Kind of hard to redo things after that. I mean, you've got Josh Hawley. You've got Rick Scott,
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but they're not dealt much of a hand. President Trump, the advisors around him, who mainly made money
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off of these endorsements, talked him into endorsing five or six individuals that never should have been
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endorsed. That gave McConnell the votes he needed, the leverage he needed. And that's why you get
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Mitch McConnell. You can't sit there and send out mean tweets or mean true social posts about Mitch
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McConnell. And no, Mitch McConnell can't get impeached because he's not going to, Mitch McConnell's
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always going to increase the debt ceiling. We've done that for two years. The Senate problem is
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because President Trump allowed Mitch McConnell to become a power player. It never took him on. I mean,
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I hate to be blunt about it, but that's the situation. Same with Kevin McCarthy. Kevin McCarthy's
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political advisor is President Trump's political advisor, one of his senior guys.
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So Kevin McCarthy's there because President Trump has tolerated it. So until we have that seat
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change, until you have that seat change, you're going to have McCarthy and you're going to have
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Mitch McConnell. Now, in the House, because of the not, you know, instead of 40 seats, they may get,
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you know, 15 to 25 and not the 40 to 50 that were out there. Both Embers and McCarthy are,
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as we speak this afternoon, there's all kinds of moves being made on McCarthy. You know, I argued
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adamantly President Trump should come in and be speaker for a hundred days, clean this mess up,
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and then step down and announce he's running the program. But he didn't take that advice on that
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idea. And you've got McCarthy. Now, McCarthy may be overthrown by people in the Republican
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conference who thought he had all the tools, he had everything going for him, including all the
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negatives of Biden, and he didn't get it done. And so he may be overthrown, but that's not going
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to be, President Trump may nod to that. But President Trump, these are the two leaders
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that President Trump has accepted and quite frankly, empowered and enforced.
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And in this case, the old saying, personnel is policy. In this case, personality may,
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personnel may be, in point of fact, fate, because he's also responsible for the presence
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of Ronald McDaniel, who has just been a complete and utter disaster. And I, because I don't take
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draws when we should have had, I mean, we're talking about a country that has been telling
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pollsters that Joe Biden is unfit for office, should be, is responsible for inflation and the
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economic turmoil that we face. And three-fourths of the country say the country is headed in the
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wrong direction and what we get's a draw. I mean, it's time for the Republican voters to say,
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the hell with this establishment nonsense. We've got to have a real agenda with real leadership,
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I think the Republican voters do want that. I think one of the realities we have to unfortunately
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face is that you have Ken Griffin. I'm just going to throw out a couple of random names,
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Paul Singer, Ken Griffin, and Schwartzman, Steve Schwartzman, who have put in $150 million
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into these races and to personally beat back challengers and to make sure it's prohibitively
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expensive for challengers, particularly in these Senate premiers, which are statewide, right? It's
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made it quite difficult. We've had a lot more MAGA candidates at the House side than we've had
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the Senate. Number one, it's just the exorbitant cost of running in these statewide. And the money,
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the corporate interest, the Wall Street interest, that McConnell does such a great job of funneling,
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he does do a great job of that. He's a power broker, has built a wall of resistance. That's
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why President Trump's endorsements, I just want to repeat, in this cycle, and these were early on,
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this was in the first 90 days, you know, in 2021. Crapo in Idaho, Burasmo in Wyoming, both of those
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could have been taken out easily. Those are huge Trump states. Boozman in Arkansas, Moran in Kansas,
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and there's a couple of others. Those guys could have all been replaced with big time MAGA,
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you know, MAGA candidates. But you get that endorsement, and quite frankly, guys around President
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Trump, were working on those, and I think that paid for it. It's very tough to change the Senate
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when you've got those states, which in Idaho, Kansas, and Wyoming, and then, you know, kind of
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in Arkansas, are cheap TV markets, that a grassroots candidate could really get some traction. So,
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look, it happened two years ago. It's kind of water over the bridge. But if you're going to change
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the Senate, you've got to change it, and that's why you've got to change it. I mean, Blake Masters is
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even competitive out there, because that TV market, although expensive, it's not soul-crushing
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expensive. And Carrie Lake showed that. Carrie Lake had $40 million dropped on her in negative
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ads, $40 million against $3 million in the primary. She went by five and a half points.
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She started last night down 16 points. And today, as we speak, she's dead even, with another 500,000
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game day votes to drop, of which she's winning those game day votes, 70 to 30. So, she could have,
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you know, God help us, let me knock on wood here. She could, you know, she could end up winning by four
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or five points right here, maybe even drag Blake Masters across the goal line. But people have to be
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committed to do this, and it's tough to do, particularly with President Trump, as much power and stroke as he
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has with this base. And they still have tremendous admiration, love for him, and support. People get a
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little, you know, they don't understand what's going on. They particularly don't understand as much
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McConnell's situation. You know, McConnell right now, you know, they talk about divided government,
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that we have one in winning the House and about to win the Senate. We have divided government.
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We're going to have power of the purse, going to have investigations in the House. We'll have these
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things in the Senate. But we have divided government. Lewis, you've preached for so long on our side,
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that the leadership in the House and the Senate are not aligned with MAGA values, and particularly
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not aligned with President Trump. Until we get that sorted, it's going to be very tough. And I'm telling you,
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the leadership votes are going to take place next Tuesday, the 15th in Washington, D.C., both the House
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leadership and Senate leadership votes. Now, the Senate leadership may wait until the Herschel War. If
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Masters does not win over the next four or five days, which will probably take it,
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I happen to believe right now it's a very tough path. I think Masters, given the number of votes
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out there, game day, election day votes, and how they're breaking, that I do think Blake Masters
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ends up the winner. But if he doesn't, I think they have to wait until December 10th, right after
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Herschel Walker's victory in Georgia. But, you know, they're going to, before Christmas,
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we're going to have leaders in the House on the side. And if those leaders are not aligned with
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President Trump, then we're going to have, you know, we're going to be in opposition,
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but we're going to have a much harder time. Yeah, I think you're right. And I also think that
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there is no question that leadership in the Senate is going to make itself felt on all of those issues,
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just as in choosing not to fund certain candidates, whether they be in New Hampshire,
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whether they be in Arizona. You know, he worked, Mitch McConnell worked against the interest of
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the Republican Party. And on that basis alone, he should be withdrawn as the, if it does turn out
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to be the majority leader or the minority leader in the Senate, don't you think?
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I, look, I agree. I've been in battle with Mitch McConnell for many, many years. But once again,
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we have to have constancy, right? I've seen the deals have been cut. Look, Mitch McConnell's there
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in this lame duck is going to be one of the most, the next six weeks, first off, 2023 is going to be
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one of the most important and volatile years in American history, just given our financial
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and economic situation. But, Lou, we're about to see an orgy of deal cutting the swamp in money
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being authorized because these guys understand that, the Democrats understand they're going to be a long
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time for the take control back of the house. Nancy Pelosi's gone. They're gone.
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Mitch McConnell's already indicated that he'd be open with Shelby and these guys who are leaving
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to cut some deal in the debt ceiling. You're going to see an orgy of spending here
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in the next six weeks in this lame duck because some of these people realize they're never going
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to be back. Or even the house has not taken one or two cycles to get power back. And so they're
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going to want to cut every deal in the wind. It's going to be very ugly. It's going to be incredibly
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harmful for the country. But that's the way this system works right now. So I think people have
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to be on point to understand that our fight is starting like today. Today, I spent all day trying
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to close on another 15 to 20 of these house seats that are right on knife's edge. A bunch of those
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are coming down to, you know, under 2,000 votes. People are going to the court already. People
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are getting recounts. You've also got these Senate seats. You've got to get a couple of
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governorships. It's a fight. And then next week, we start right off the bat with these leadership
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elections, which is going to set the tone. We have divided government on our side of the football. We
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have to get that aligned. Part of that getting aligned is President Trump understanding that McCarthy
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and McConnell are not on the same page with him. Let's leave the personalities aside.
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I just am not on the same page with him from a policy perspective. And you know this.
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I suppose everything from trade, bringing manufacturing jobs back, the control of these big multinational
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corporations just go down the punch list. We're just not aligned. Our voters are aligned with
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the MAGA America First President Trump agenda. The leadership of those political apparatuses are
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not. I hope the President understands, and I'm sure that he does not want to deal with it right at this
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moment. But I do hope he understands that he has, he is the President in waiting, and he has to make
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changes. Because to consider with this sclerotic group of rhinos in positions of power that frustrate the MAGA
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agenda, the America First agenda, he will pay a price for it at the polls in 2024. And there's no doubt of it.
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I think what we're seeing right now is in some way in this election, what should have been, in my opinion,
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at least a strong red wave, if not a tsunami, is sort of an even-steven split, because the Republican Party
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is split. You have Mitch McConnell cutting deals, and you have Kevin McCarthy trying to figure out what a deal
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looks like. It's ridiculous to tolerate this kind of leadership. And a conference, by the way,
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that is so enamored with its, you know, its handful, more than a handful, of rhinos, that they don't want
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to make waves. They want to play pity patter. And point of fact, it's destructive. And there has to be
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leadership that comes up out of the conference, rather than is forced from above.
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I could not agree with you more. And I think that day is, today is Wednesday when we're doing this
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podcast. Brother, that vote takes place on six days. I mean, you know, I couldn't agree with you
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more. And I think, I think the only, not correction, observation I would make, I don't think he has to
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wait for the polls in 2024. Because I think 2023, remember, if we do it at the same time in history,
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next June is when President Trump in 15 came down the escalator. So, so the kickoff is down there.
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And it's going to happen a lot sooner than the polls. They're going to try to bleed him out.
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Look, their purpose is very, they're very, they've thought this thing through pretty clearly. They want
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the Trump voters. They don't want the Trump, they don't want Trump and they don't want the Trump
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voters attitude. They just want your votes and they want your money. They've been pretty upfront about
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this. It's not, this is not complicated. And they don't want President Trump anywhere near this.
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They want him out. They want him down. They would not support us. And so that is the,
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one of the principal dilemmas we have. And you see how the mainstream media, conservative media,
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and the conservative media was burying President Trump last night, well before he's even gotten,
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I mean, they were rooting against us. That's why I'm working so hard to get these house seats.
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They're rooting against us getting more house seats. They're rooting against us to really get
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the Senate. They would like to be able to blame all this on President Trump. It's not
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President Trump's fault. And these things are out there winnable right now. Like in
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Cary Lake, I have not slept now in about three days. And last night I was up all night working
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with the team out there to make sure that these votes are coming in. And ever since last night,
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the huge process of game day votes have come in. Although in Maricopa County, the officials,
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I think, tried to steal it for Katie Howes to make it as difficult as possible to bid on election
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day to make sure people were raved off. Still a massive turnout, which I was out there for a week.
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There were a couple of weeks to help generate Trump voters on game day. And it's, you know,
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it's come to fruition. But, you know, people are not working to close these deals, just like in
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2020. These deals are absolutely closed. Right now, their number one obsession is to rid themselves
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of President Trump, yet still keep his voters. So, you know, America is in a turbulent time because,
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you know, America, like other countries, you go through these cycles of history,
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it's just not going to be pleasant. It's not going to be sunlit uplands. We're a divided country for a
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simple reason. You know, people here have two different concepts of the nation. One is very
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much tied to the founding of the country as a constitutional republic. And what we've done is
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the backbone of the Judeo-Christian civilization. And others are just radical, I think, almost cultural
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Marxists and authoritarians. And they're not going to compromise on that. There's no middle ground
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there. One side's going to win and one side's going to lose. And unfortunately, on our side of
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football, we have lots of globalists and lots of non-American firsters that are on our side of
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football because they like tax cuts and deregulation. And that's a lot of money associated
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with that. That does not support the values of the MAGA movement. That's a dilemma we have.
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And we're fighting on our side of football. It's going to continue to fight into 2023, which
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we're going to have, I believe, just a continuing economic and financial crisis.
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Now, there is no question that President Trump, if he runs in 2024, which I think he will,
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has to have a team around him of warriors. You remember during 2015 and 16, he would talk about
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the killers he's going to bring to the White House and the executive branch to his cabinet.
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I added up the killers one time on his cabinet. There wasn't one. And it's that simple.
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He has basically a year and a half to get it right this time. And that means people who are loyal to
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him, people who have triple digit IQs and are canny, cunning and can deliver. It's that straightforward.
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I mean, he had it right in 2015 and 16 in his campaign. And my God, Chris Christie, the chair of
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his transition, got it ever so wrong and left a lot of cleanup work. You know better than
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almost anyone how much cleanup there had to be. We can't do it again. And if we persist with McCarthy
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and McConnell at this stage, I don't believe it'll be necessary for anyone to do a thing in the
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Republican Party in 2024 because the left will run over us. We're just invading this list.
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I think he is going to announce for president. I think he will be the president. I think we'll
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have his second term. I call it the three-peat. He'll win for the third time, serve for the
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second. I think his second term will be magnificent. But there's a big but there. They're looking
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to bleed him out. So none of this happens. And I think that that is, I'm always someone
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who loves to have a strategic plan, but understand today's work is the most important work we have.
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I think there's a lot of work to do. And I would not give that as great a leader as he's been,
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as great as his ideas have been, as great as he's changed American politics and changed the
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Republican Party and really saved this country. There's nothing, there's no giving here because
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he's very much like America in Vietnam. He's like right now America in Saigon. He is surrounded
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by people in the Republican Party that are just not as friendly. You saw this last night with
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Governor DeSantis' great performance of what Governor DeSantis did in Florida. The knives
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came out and people are not shy about it. This is a never-Trump movement that's on testosterone.
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And President Trump's going to have to think through how he works through that because it's
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not going to go away. It's strong. It's well-financed. It's well-staffed. And it's powerful.
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And, you know, he's going to have to address that. And understand that, you know, you don't
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have the luxury of making these kind of, certain states have been made in the past. You just
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don't. The country doesn't, number one. And I think politically President Trump doesn't.
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It's got to be a dress of candlestick. And if he does that, he will have, he'll not just
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win the primary, he'll have a magnificent win in the general election and then a fantastic,
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There's an ideological fissure that runs through corporate America, through Wall Street, and
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our political establishment from the Republican perspective. And throughout, they are globalist
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elites on Wall Street. The corporatists are beyond globalist elites. They're also globalist elites
00:26:41.500
with strong left-wing, even Marxist predilections and philosophy, and have abandoned the Republican
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Party. And we are left then with a party that is divided not just between RINOs and MAGA,
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America First interests and supporters. We're left with a party that is bereft of leadership
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and is simply following the Ken Griffins, as you said, Paul Singer, because the moneyed interests
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are also the donor class who are also seeking, really, to bring MAGA and America First into line
00:27:25.840
with the globalist elites and call that a compromise, when it's insidious and it is at work right
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I couldn't agree more. I mean, I think you're right. I think that's what's got to be solved
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here, right? It's got to be, so look, we're still, after a brutal election, we're still in
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the fight on, like I said, a bunch of seats in the House to give us a bigger majority
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in the House to be able to execute our plan, to control the Senate, to control some of these
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governorships, particularly the ones in Nevada and Arizona, which are critically important.
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And then you've got leadership. You know, you've got to lay out the investigations next week
00:28:09.020
in the House, how they're going to run it. Wednesday, you get the leadership elections,
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and you've got the Senate seat in Georgia. It's all in lame duck on top of that. It's going to
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come fast. It's going to come hard. And, you know, if President Trump is prepared for that,
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and his team will only be prepared for that, he'll be able to craft this, like in football,
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enforce your will on the opposition. That's what the key in football is. If you're not,
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they're going to force their will on you, because people should not, this is not the
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never Trump movement that tried to stop him in late 2015 or early 2016. That was disorganized,
00:28:48.000
not financed. It was just people yelling over their lunchbox. This is not that. This is quite
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organized, quite well financed, quite well staffed, and they mean it. And so he's got to take it
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seriously. If he takes it seriously, good things will happen. But I just hope he's getting the
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advice he's got to take this seriously, because it's a serious problem, given everything else
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that's going on, which is going to be quite jam-packed. I think you're exactly right. I think
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Republicans are having a very difficult time understanding that they are in a war with the
00:29:24.980
left in this country, and in point of fact, are losing badly. As always, we get right against
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I don't think the leadership, I think the one difference, the base and the voters understand
00:29:39.140
that, understand it clearly. That's why they're prepared to sacrifice so much of time and effort,
00:29:43.140
and even they're harder than cash to do that, and back people like Kerry Lake, and back people
00:29:48.300
like Blake Masters, J.D. Vance, people like this. The leadership definitely doesn't think that.
00:29:52.720
They're controlled opposition. In fact, they've made a ton of money not making this an issue,
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an existential threat, and they're not going to. They're not going to fight the change of
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the direction of this country. They are hardwired into the problems of this country, and they're
00:30:07.700
not going to get, you know, it's a feature, not a bug, is how they operate. And that's what
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I, if President Trump fully understands and realizes that, and these people are not his fans,
00:30:20.120
no matter how much he's got in the bar library, kiss a ring or kiss his ass, they're not his
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friends, and they work against him all the time, then that is, that awakening is the beginning
00:30:29.060
of change. Until we have that, you're just going to have more of the same.
00:30:34.760
I want to conclude with one thought in your response, and that is, I knew that we were in
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trouble when Brad Parscale resurfaced in the Trump organization. I knew we were in trouble
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when Ronna McDaniel was still in the leadership of the Republican National Committee. Your thoughts?
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I will leave any personnel decision out there. It's just, I think it's, you know, it is personalities,
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but I think it's actually deeper than that. I think it's deeper than the fact of the point you just made
00:31:08.300
a minute ago, is that there's just a fundamental disconnect between what President Trump believes
00:31:15.200
in MAGA and his MAGA and American First policies, and the policies of this, of the elite, of the political
00:31:21.580
uniparty that caters to the powerful and well-connected and moneyed class of Wall Street and the giant
00:31:30.460
corporations that really feel more comfortable in Davos than they do in downtown Detroit with
00:31:37.500
working class people. That's the fundamental difference we have. Yes, personalities come up
00:31:41.600
and people can say, these guys are strong, these guys are weak, but I think it's something we have
00:31:46.020
that's much deeper, is that the elite of both parties, and particularly the Republican party,
00:31:53.200
the elite of it, are quite comfortable being in controlled opposition. In other words,
00:31:57.000
people come up, you know, phony fights all the time, but they're on the same team with the
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fundamental basic neoliberal neocon policies. That's the disconnect we have. Once we have that,
00:32:06.860
once everybody on our side is aligned with that, change will come, and I think change can come
00:32:12.180
quickly, because I do think we have a talent base out there now to staff that. Until that comes,
00:32:17.940
we're kind of spinning wheels, and right now we don't have time to spin wheels because there's so many
00:32:21.940
catechismic events that are before us. Indeed, calling for great leadership, and that to me has
00:32:30.520
always been synonymous with Donald J. Trump. It is also very clear to me, and he as a businessman
00:32:38.300
should understand this better than anyone, and that is until you align the interest of the organization,
00:32:46.220
you're going to have havoc, chaos, and poor result and outcome. And unfortunately, that's what we face
00:32:55.420
right now, and we need a leader just like Donald J. Trump to make certain that that is fixed and fixed
00:33:03.420
in a hurry. And as always, we need leaders like Steve Bannon of Bannon's War Room. Steve, we thank you
00:33:11.980
so much. I just want a podcast, brother. I just got a podcast. I'm just a simple, I'm just a simple
00:33:20.380
dumb Nick with a podcast, but I'm always honored to be on here, Lou. I love the Great America Show.
00:33:25.760
Well, thank you so much, and I'm just a simple country boy, and by the way, I'm not poor-mouthing,
00:33:31.260
I'm bragging. Thanks so much, Steve Bannon. We appreciate it. Bye, sir. Bye-bye. All the best. God bless.
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Thanks, everybody, for being with us today. Thanks to Steve Bannon for being here today and for all he
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does. Here tomorrow will be Tom Fenton, president of Judicial Watch. Please join us. Until then,