The Great America Show - WE’RE ALREADY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WORST SELF-INFLICTED CATASTROPHIC CRISIS ON THE SOUTHERN BORDER IN OUR LIFETIME

00:00:00.000 Hello everybody, I'm Lou Dobbs. This is the Great America Show. Great to have you with us.

00:00:05.280 Welcome all, and as we approach the new year, I can't help but reflect on what this new year

00:00:11.060 may well mean. We're nearing what has to be an inflection point, a place where history

00:00:16.920 pivots so dramatically and profoundly it just can't be missed. An obvious moment so much so

00:00:23.640 that it shakes us to our bones and rattles our teeth. That's what's in store, I believe,

00:00:28.660 for all of us this year, and I believe whatever form that historical pivot takes,

00:00:34.120 the inflection that points toward our future will bring great clarity and great change to all of us

00:00:40.260 now struggling to understand how this great nation has fallen so far. Our leaders have lost their way.

00:00:47.360 Our government is almost unrecognizable and suspect in everything that it does, and everyday life for

00:00:54.260 so many of us is filled with uncertainty, ambivalence, and there's little clarity about

00:00:59.340 our direction and our destiny. Right now, there are tens of thousands holed up south of our border

00:01:06.080 preparing to charge into the United States because they believe without Title 42 there's no stopping

00:01:12.720 them. The crazy thing is there's no stopping them anyway. Apparently millions, five to six million,

00:01:18.480 have already crossed into the United States in the first two years of this Biden presidency.

00:01:25.260 Consider this. Biden is bringing in millions of illegals illegally, and we have no idea where

00:01:31.900 those illegals are going. They're being shipped all around the country in the dead of night. 0.99

00:01:37.100 No one cares enough, it is obvious, to demand where they're going, where do they live,

00:01:42.260 work, and who's paying for it all. No Republicans, certainly no Democrats, are asking those questions.

00:01:47.880 The news outlets are corporate-owned, and they're not about to cover the history that's being made

00:01:53.040 by the Marxist Dems in league with the deep state and the globalist corporations. You have to pay for

00:02:00.040 the schooling of these illegal immigrants, their welfare, medical costs, health care, their housing,

00:02:05.580 their protection. It's been said that demographics are destiny, and it's certainly so. So what is our 0.94

00:02:12.340 destiny now? It's not one of our making, you and I, our fellow citizens, who have no voice now and no

00:02:19.340 vote, because the Marxist Dems don't have time to pretend that ours is a great constitutional republic.

00:02:27.080 What we are approaching is the inflection point, the point of no return, the day that the consent of

00:02:33.820 the governed will no longer be required, because we haven't stood up for the country. We've turned our

00:02:40.000 borders over to the Mexican drug cartels, and they're not likely to return the sovereignty

00:02:44.400 that our leaders have surrendered to them. And the cartels now control both sides of our southern

00:02:50.660 border, free to bring in enough deadly drugs, especially fentanyl, to kill our entire population

00:02:57.400 several times over, as they continue their sex trafficking and, of course, bring in as many

00:03:02.860 illegal immigrants as they possibly can. Our guest today was in charge of our borders and ports as 1.00

00:03:09.100 commissioner of customs and border protection in the Trump administration. Our guest is Mark Morgan,

00:03:14.860 great American. And Mark, it's great to have you here on the show. This is one of the lowest points

00:03:21.140 in American history. I'm not sure what we can do about it all. Your thoughts? Yeah, Lou, look, I

00:03:27.540 completely agree. Look, you said a couple of very important things. One is we're already in the middle

00:03:33.020 of the worst catastrophic crisis, self-inflicted crisis on our southern border we've seen in our

00:03:38.440 lifetime. You know, everybody's talking about the end of Title 42. Like, that is going to be the

00:03:43.260 beginning of the crisis. And that's just wrong. We've been in the middle of the crisis for the first

00:03:47.780 past two years. The second thing that you said is very important, and I couldn't have said it better

00:03:52.560 myself. Our southwest border, literally, large strategic areas of southwest border have been

00:03:59.300 handed over the cartels. The cartels, no doubt, have operational control. And there's a sub-element

00:04:04.880 that you mentioned, too, which is, again, spot on. It's why I love talking to you. Cartels aren't just

00:04:09.840 operating on the Mexico side. The cartels are on the United States side, too. The cartels reach their

00:04:15.540 arms, reach into the entire country and all 50 states. That's a reality. The last thing that I'll say

00:04:22.180 they'll actually foot stomp. You know, it's not just the drugs coming in. It's not just the illegal

00:04:25.880 aliens, but it's also criminals that are pouring in because our Border Patrol agents are overwhelmed.

00:04:31.380 We've had over 1.2 million gotaways in the past 23 months. And then, of course, let's not forget

00:04:36.680 about the potential national security threats that are pouring in among potentially that 1.2 million

00:04:41.680 gotaways, Lou. I have to ask you, as a former commissioner of Customs and Border Protection,

00:04:48.760 you look at what the Biden administration is doing, you look at that bureaucracy, give us a sense of

00:04:57.560 what in the world the people who are supposed to be down there guarding the border, protecting the

00:05:03.880 nation, those people in Immigration and Customs Enforcement who are supposed to be taking out,

00:05:10.520 actually deporting people who shouldn't be here. What are those people doing right now? Because

00:05:20.120 they're not doing what we're paying for them to do. Yeah. Again, you're spot on. Look, I just returned

00:05:26.900 from El Paso once again on the border. And keep in mind, I'm no longer in the federal government. I'm no

00:05:31.740 longer the Commission of Customs and Border Protection. Yet I've been to the I've been to the border

00:05:36.420 countless times. Yet our president still has not been to the border as we're going through the

00:05:40.660 worst catastrophic crisis. Right. So the irony there. Look, I still talk to the men and women

00:05:44.800 of Border Patrol. They're on the front lines every single day. Lou, they're frustrated just like you

00:05:49.460 and just like me, because they know that this administration has tied their hands to be able

00:05:54.660 to do their job. They know that this administration on day one removed every single effective tool,

00:06:00.760 authority and policy we have that got us to the most secure border in our lifetime. You know,

00:06:04.940 you and I talked about before by February of 2020, we have reduced illegal immigration by 85% to the

00:06:11.260 lowest that had been in decades. And the result meant that more agents were actually on the front

00:06:15.720 lines on their national security mission, doing their job, just as you described. The reality is

00:06:20.860 they've been relegated to a welcoming agency. In large areas along the border, 90%, 90% of Border Patrol

00:06:28.560 agents have been removed off that front line. And they're relegated to doing administrative duties to

00:06:33.520 processing, hospital watch, transportation, everything that goes along with a processing

00:06:38.360 millions of illegal aliens that this administration has incentivized. The result is, is that large

00:06:44.040 areas, again, of our border are unpatrolled, unmonitored. The cartels own it. And what's

00:06:48.720 happening, again, drugs are pouring in, criminal aliens, including murderers, rapists, pedophiles,

00:06:53.720 aggravated felons and gang members. That's not hyperbolic. And of course, illegal aliens on the

00:06:58.700 potential on the FBI's terror screening database. So they know, Lou, one last thing I'll say,

00:07:03.540 they know, these men and women know that they're not able to do their job. And when they hear about,

00:07:08.440 for example, an American being killed by an illegal alien, they know they failed. When they hear of

00:07:13.560 another American, every single die dying of fentanyl overdose, knowing the majority of fentanyl comes on

00:07:18.780 the wide open southwest border, it hurts them. That's why their morale is the lowest it's ever been,

00:07:23.340 because they're unable to do the job, as you said, that we pay them to do.

00:07:27.140 How many Border Patrol agents do we have now?

00:07:31.060 About 19,000. It's actually, the irony is, they have fewer Border Patrol agents than when I was the

00:07:37.360 commissioner under President Trump. And yet, that's what some of the Democrats are wanting to do right

00:07:42.540 now, is say, oh, look what we're doing. We're asking for more agents, like that's going to solve

00:07:46.620 the problem. First of all, it's one, because we've got lower or fewer agents now than we did. And second,

00:07:51.780 that's not the issue. You can throw all the money and resources. That's the Democratic way, right?

00:07:56.280 Let's just throw more money at it, call it a day, pat ourselves on the back, say we fixed it.

00:08:00.340 That's a lie. It's not going to happen. This is a policy issue that they destroyed.

00:08:04.880 And what is happening with CIS? Legal, if you will, immigration. I don't even hear a discussion

00:08:12.880 about the efforts to create a giant amnesty, thanks to the Western Growers Association and various

00:08:20.720 other corporate organizations, what I call global corporatism. The country is being overrun

00:08:31.720 by, yes, illegal immigrants, drugs, you name it. But we're also being overrun by these corporations

00:08:39.820 who have decided, they're going to decide who comes into this country, under what terms,

00:08:45.940 and we, and we, and they frankly don't give a damn how many Americans are dislocated from their

00:08:52.040 employment, their lives are disrupted, or their wages suppressed. Your thoughts?

00:08:58.980 Yeah, Lou, I agree. Look, this is the Chamber of Commerce across this country have a stranglehold

00:09:03.760 on a lot of Republicans. So look, right now, the crisis we have right now, make no mistake,

00:09:08.720 it's the Democratic Party system administration. But the Republicans, they don't get off scot-free

00:09:13.160 either. They refuse to do what they need to do. They refuse to step up. Remember,

00:09:18.200 under President Trump, the Republicans have the White House, the Senate, and the House,

00:09:22.980 and they failed to pass a single piece of meaningful border security legislation that

00:09:27.480 would have stopped about 85 percent of what's happening now. In the past two years, we still

00:09:31.860 have countless Republicans that have remained in the shadows, remained off the front lines of this

00:09:36.220 devastating crisis along our southwest border, again, because they don't want to lose funding for

00:09:41.720 the re-election. I mean, I'm sorry, I don't want to be political, but you can't talk about politics,

00:09:48.280 you can't talk about the border without talking about politics, because it's so infused. And it

00:09:52.520 shouldn't be that way. I mean, Lou, you and I talk, securing our border, there's no downside to

00:09:57.880 securing our border. But it has become political. And right now, we need to put pressure, obviously,

00:10:03.940 on this administration, but also the Republicans, to step up and do the right thing.

00:10:07.840 And do the right thing. We're watching a battle amongst a lot of principled, principally,

00:10:15.740 Freedom Caucus members in the House of Representatives over Kevin McCarthy, who wants to be Speaker.

00:10:24.120 I mean, what in the world are we doing? We're watching the Republicans, absolutely, as a conference,

00:10:32.260 turn to a rhino for their leadership. It's mind-boggling. President Trump this weekend came

00:10:41.060 out and endorsed Kevin McCarthy, said he deserves at least a crack at the job. I don't understand what

00:10:48.100 he's done to deserve it. Do you? And I don't have any confidence that he can do anything approaching

00:10:55.440 of what has to be done to get this country righted? Look, you know, Lou, you and I, we know each other

00:11:01.840 for years. I don't want to get too far into the politics. But like I said, you can't talk about

00:11:08.300 the border without talking about it, because it has become, unfortunately, so infused with politics.

00:11:13.000 Now, look, you saw McCarthy go down to the border. He was at El Paso, the same spot that I was at.

00:11:20.060 And he did, you know, he said the right words, right? He was calling for Secretary Mayorkas to

00:11:25.500 resign, which is the right thing. He said, if he does it, we're going to start having hearings to

00:11:30.740 lead towards impeachment. That needs to happen. I'm hoping, I want to hold on to those aren't just

00:11:38.340 words, that he's not just saying that to get the votes from the Freedom Caucus so he can become

00:11:43.360 Speaker. I hope he's going to be a man of his words and do that, because that's one of the first

00:11:48.500 things that needs to happen, is we need to hold this administration's chief architect of their

00:11:53.220 open border policy, Secretary Mayorkas, accountable for his deadly policies, for lying to Congress,

00:11:58.560 for lying to the American people. But also on day one, look, we've also provided McCarthy and the 0.53

00:12:04.600 Republican House a roadmap. Several conservative think tanks got together. We produced a coalition

00:12:09.900 letter that provides a roadmap with exactly what they need to do from a legislative perspective,

00:12:14.740 that if they do it, it will secure the border. That should be House bill number one, right out of

00:12:21.200 the gate. There should be no debate. They already know what needs to be done. We've provided it to

00:12:25.500 them. So we're going to know in short order if he's going to step up and do the right things. One,

00:12:31.000 by putting forth the right border security bill, and two, holding people accountable like Secretary

00:12:35.680 Mayorkas. I think that's commendable, but you and I are straight talkers. What happens then? It goes to

00:12:43.840 the Senate. It gets killed. What happens if it weren't to get killed? It gets vetoed. The Republicans

00:12:50.400 have got to think in terms of what they can do to affect change. Legislation is good, but these trials

00:12:58.880 and these investigations they're talking about amount to nothing more than show trials, which is exactly

00:13:05.460 what the January 6th committee has been, because they have no way to get criminal referrals. They have

00:13:10.880 no way to hold accountable the people that they find. The Justice Department is so corrupt. The

00:13:16.580 Department of Justice throughout, including the FBI, is so corrupt. There is no way forward unless the

00:13:22.780 Republicans bring great mental energy, intellectual energy to this exercise, and they find a way to

00:13:30.720 govern with effect rather than for show. Your thoughts? Yeah. Those are all great points,

00:13:37.420 and I'm with you. Let me give you an example, though. Here's one way to look at the impeachment

00:13:41.860 hearings as Secretary Mayorkas. I think it's very different than the January 6th. I agree with you.

00:13:47.360 That's been all theater and all show. We could do a couple hours just on that. But when it comes to the

00:13:53.220 border, it's really about truth, fact, and reality. So I think there will be substance there,

00:13:57.700 because one thing that this administration has done when it comes to the deadly open border

00:14:02.100 policies is they've been lying to the American people. I mean, you have the President of the

00:14:05.800 United States that says he's got more important things to worry about. The Vice President has said

00:14:10.460 the border is secure. And of course, we know Secretary Mayorkas says the borders are closed and secure.

00:14:14.600 We have operational control. We know all of that's a lie. So not only for the first time in two years

00:14:21.760 where we have a forum where the American people for the first time will actually get to hear the truth,

00:14:26.560 reality, and the how and why we got to the worst border crisis in our lifetime. All that's been

00:14:32.900 ahead from them. And I still say that's part of the reason why the election went the way it went,

00:14:37.540 because the border, it didn't get to the kitchen tables and issues should, because this administration

00:14:42.120 has been covering it up. The mainstream media has assisted them in covering it up. So through those

00:14:46.840 hearings, it really would, for the first time, the American people would actually get to hear

00:14:50.960 full transparency with respect to what happened. Now, the last thing that I'll say with the

00:14:56.060 Republicans is, here's another thing that they could do. And again, I'm already hearing a lot

00:15:00.700 of pushback because they're so worried about the way it will look. But the House, look, they have a

00:15:04.940 powerful tool, the power of the purse. They own the budget. Look, they could stop funding this 0.93

00:15:11.620 administration's deadly open border policies. They could just stop it. And that means to have the

00:15:16.840 political courage, strength of will to shut down the government to say, no, we're not funding one

00:15:23.020 single agency that is complicit in opening our borders and facilitating illegal immigration,

00:15:28.500 driving our borders to be open and having operational control over the cartels. We're not doing it one

00:15:32.940 more day. We're not going to fund it. We're going to close it down on this border until this

00:15:36.700 administration reverses course. They could do that, Lou. And you know it.

00:15:40.520 I do know it. And I do know that the only branch of government that has

00:15:46.820 a line item veto is the House of Representatives through the power of the purse. They can go

00:15:53.580 through line by line and defund whatever they wish. And but I and it's that reason you were

00:16:01.120 talking about, you know, for the election, people didn't have the the border in front of them

00:16:07.080 because the press is there. There's nothing more than Marxist Dems, corporate owned and operated.

00:16:13.320 The American people right now are getting more disinformation than they are any kind of

00:16:19.360 semblance of truth from national media, corporate owned. Corporate America itself is ESG. It's CRT.

00:16:29.080 It is absolutely it has moved in a way I never dreamed possible. It is a leftist or it is a leftist

00:16:37.080 oligopoly in nearly every instance. And we have to take that into account. Kevin McCarthy right now

00:16:45.460 is doing the bidding of the Chamber of Commerce because he has no choice. That's who he's been.

00:16:50.880 It's who he will be. Think about this. Think about this. Gavin Newsom, the left wing crazed Marxist

00:16:58.320 governor of California, is admitting that his state is broken because of illegal immigration.

00:17:05.160 He's saying it out loud. Kevin McCarthy, I don't maybe, you know, I don't know that he's ever been

00:17:12.020 to the border and he sure as hell has never stepped up and said, we're going to shut that border down

00:17:17.540 and stop illegal immigration, deadly drugs and sex trafficking. Now, do you know? Yeah. So so what I

00:17:26.580 was so he was so McCarthy was just to the border a couple of weeks ago, but it was after the vote,

00:17:32.920 the initial vote to make him speaker or not. And I believe it was 35 members of the Freedom Caucus

00:17:38.360 on the Republican side didn't vote for him. It was after that that he went to the border.

00:17:42.900 So factually, what I will say is, in my opinion, I think to a large degree, he has not been in the

00:17:48.740 forefront of this border crisis the past two years like he should have been. And it wasn't again until

00:17:54.360 after he didn't cross that 218 vote threshold he needed that he goes to the border. And what he said

00:17:59.940 at the border, Lou, what he said was very strong. He did. Again, he called for the resignation of

00:18:05.960 Secretary Mayorkas, if not to lead towards impeachment. He called for the border to be secure.

00:18:11.360 He said it was a crisis. He was saying all the right things. But but as you as you very astutely

00:18:17.240 pointed out, Governor Newsom did the same thing, just almost the same time period. Although I think

00:18:23.760 I think he was wearing Armani shoes when Newsom was at the border. But, you know, here you have a

00:18:29.080 governor that created really the our country's first state sanctuary state has welcomed illegal 0.78

00:18:35.740 aliens, has rewarded them with with more benefits than any other state, possibly than New York.

00:18:40.380 And now he has finally stepped up and also said it's a crisis. That's where we're at right now.

00:18:45.820 I mean, look, even the Democratic mayor of El Paso called a declaration of emergency for a city

00:18:52.320 because of the crisis and said it was a crisis. We have a Democrat representative Cuellar who said

00:18:56.960 it's a crisis, who our borders are said as our borders are broken, they're open. You know,

00:19:00.440 meanwhile, we still have the president, vice president, Secretary Mayorkas ignoring it,

00:19:04.860 pretending there's not a problem in the line of American people. 0.95

00:19:06.900 I want to bring this back to one channel that I'm on right now, one lane, if you will. And that is

00:19:14.440 the Republican Party doing something. I think you and I agree. And correct me if I'm wrong. But we

00:19:20.940 agree that the investigations, while they will be necessary at some point, and I'm talking about the

00:19:27.320 investigations into Biden corruption, I'm talking about the whole thing. Nothing can be done. There's

00:19:34.980 no way to affect change with those investigations other than, quote unquote, public opinion. It's a PR

00:19:41.780 campaign. And it's going to be a very narrow one because national media isn't going to pay any

00:19:49.200 attention to it. The Dems are going to run over the Republicans with lies after lies. Every executive

00:19:56.080 department and the federal government will be ginning out disinformation lies and taking steps

00:20:03.380 to to avert the eyes of the voting public. So why not focus on defunding those parts of government

00:20:13.900 that are unresponsive, that have fought tooth and nail congressional oversight. That includes the Homeland

00:20:20.680 Security Department. That includes the Department of Justice, the FBI. And by the way, I don't think we

00:20:27.580 lose a minute's worth of productivity and protection from the FBI because they're spending their time

00:20:33.420 doing what local authorities do, which is investigating now murders and not not carrying out anything but a

00:20:41.940 weaponized assault on the American people. I'm talking about parents and school boards. This is an outrage.

00:20:48.980 Why not everybody, all of us come together and focus on what the Republican Party can do without the

00:20:57.820 politics, without the, you know, the the namby pamby couching and posturing and nonsense. Just stand up

00:21:05.760 and get it done. It takes spine, absolute spine, as Congressman Bob Good of Virginia said. I don't know if

00:21:14.180 there's enough spine in all the Republican conference to do it, but if they could, if they

00:21:19.120 would, we know they could, if they would, it would change the course of this tragic trajectory this

00:21:25.900 nation's on. Yeah, Lou, look, we could do a whole nother couple hours on the FBI, so I'll save that for

00:21:31.580 another time. But your concept with respect to what Congress can do, look, I couldn't have said

00:21:37.100 better myself. But you and I both know, I mean, it's going to take an extraordinary high degree of political

00:21:43.620 strength, courage and will for the House to do what they need to do, because I agree with you. I don't see the

00:21:51.440 Senate because the Democrats own the Senate. So even if a decent bill comes out of the House, I don't see it being

00:21:58.840 passed in a Senate. And by some miracle it does. I mean, of course, the president veto it. But I still think they've got to do

00:22:05.240 legislation, right? They still got to pass a strong border security bill. Let them not pass it in the

00:22:12.000 Senate. And we can hold those people accountable. If by some miracle it did pass and the president

00:22:16.420 vetoes, then in 2024, we get to hold them accountable. So there are things we can do. But I agree with you.

00:22:21.780 That's probably what's going to happen. And that's why it does get back to the House and it does get

00:22:26.520 back to their power of the purse that they've got to utilize. Look, I think they should really laser

00:22:32.500 focus on the border because that's something that's literally killing Americans every single

00:22:37.480 day. That's literally something that's jeopardizing every aspect of our nation's safety and national

00:22:42.420 security every single day. That's where the majority of the lies are just coming from. I mean, American

00:22:47.980 lives are being jeopardized as well as the lives of migrants. I mean, hypocrisy there. And they could do 0.91

00:22:53.320 it, Lou. They could. They could say, no, as you just said, we are not funding one element under DHS

00:23:00.460 that is responsible for this deadly catastrophic crisis or southwest border, the worst we've ever

00:23:07.720 seen in our lifetime. They could stop it, Lou. They could send the message. But that's look,

00:23:14.020 that's where right now I'm going to continue to say I'm hopeful, but I'm skeptical. I just don't know

00:23:19.540 how it's going to pan out. Yeah, none of us does. I would like to say that not knowing how it's going

00:23:28.620 to pan out, I have absolute certainty of this, that it won't pan out under Kevin McCarthy. It will not

00:23:34.880 pan out under RINO leadership. The Republican Party has some huge issues here, and I'm attaching

00:23:40.660 those political problems to these national existential threats that we face because they're

00:23:47.940 related. The Republican Party has for too many years given over the leadership of its conference

00:23:54.400 to RINOs, whether it's Paul Ryan, John Boehner, Kevin McCarthy, you go down the list. And they align

00:24:00.960 with the Democrats, not with the conservatives and not with moderates in the Republican Party who are

00:24:07.720 perfectly aligned. And the representatives are trying, trying to represent the voices of the

00:24:14.600 people who send them to Washington. And then their leaders sell them out. Look at what Mitch

00:24:19.880 McConnell has done, lining up with the omnibus bill for crying out loud. It undercuts with 11 other

00:24:27.180 RINOs in the Senate. It undercuts everything that Mitch McConnell should be doing. He's more aligned 0.98

00:24:34.680 with the CCP than he is with the Republican Party, for crying out loud. We have to speak honestly. We have to

00:24:41.640 acknowledge the limitations. We have to acknowledge what's real and what's effective and what is not. And

00:24:47.400 when we hear the mayor, you mentioned the mayor of El Paso, the Democratic mayor of El Paso. He's got illegal 0.50

00:24:54.520 immigrants crawling out from under the sewers of El Paso from the border, coming over. They can handle 0.99

00:25:02.360 2,500 a day. I think that's a fascinating number. They're expecting 6,000 people after the 20th of

00:25:10.280 this month to be rolling in. It's going to be a heck of a Wednesday in America.

00:25:16.040 Yeah, well, let's keep in mind. So that's 2,500 a day. So in my opinion, I don't think they're managing

00:25:23.160 that, right? Because when you talk about managing something, that means that there's no threats

00:25:29.040 coming through. They like to use the term on the Democratic side, even the mayor. Look, I don't want

00:25:35.240 to call them out. But look, they're not being fully honest with the American people. Because here's why.

00:25:41.920 Because their focus is on the illegal alien. It's not the focus on what's in the best interest of

00:25:47.340 this country. It's all backwards, Lou. The reason why they can, quote, manage 2,500 illegal aliens 1.00

00:25:53.840 coming in, and that's just in that area, is because this administration is pouring hundreds and hundreds

00:26:00.180 of millions of dollars of UX taxpayers. The NGOs are getting funded millions of dollars from the

00:26:07.760 taxpayers. And the city of El Paso is paying for a lot of it to actually manage, process, and then

00:26:14.240 move the illegal aliens to every single state in this country. That's the only reason why they're, 1.00

00:26:19.180 quote, able to manage it. But during that management of that flow, what happens is there's no border

00:26:24.340 patrol agents on the front line. So is there a line of the American people saying, ah, we're managing it?

00:26:30.300 No. Drugs are pouring in. Criminals are pouring in. National security threats are pouring in.

00:26:34.520 I mean, this is absurd that we've got a place in our country where we're okay with the end justifies

00:26:40.540 the means. That we're okay with somebody that wants to come to this country, that somehow we're a racist 0.88

00:26:45.020 if we call for them to come legally. I'm not against legal immigration. I'm against illegal immigration 0.69

00:26:52.760 because it drives our borders to be unsecure. But as you said, it's hard to imagine that it's going

00:26:59.780 to get worse than it already is now, but it is going to get worse. So we're already seeing it.

00:27:03.880 Look, we're getting reports. There's tens of thousands of illegal aliens in Tapachula and

00:27:08.640 Juarez that they've been kind of holding back and in shelters. Now they've opened up and they're on

00:27:13.940 their way here. We've already seen El Paso. The numbers are exponentially starting to increase

00:27:18.420 in anticipation. I mean, it's just a mess. I mean, literally, we're already, the border is already

00:27:23.940 the wild, wild west. And it's hard to imagine that it's going to get worse.

00:27:27.540 I wonder sometimes, to tell you the truth, how many Americans care? How many Americans really care?

00:27:36.900 Because it may be that we've reached a point of apathy, a level of apathy, that we are looking

00:27:45.820 at what could be the end of this country as we know it. Because the Republican Party is gutless,

00:27:52.620 it's leaderless, it's rudderless. It's without principle, frankly. We've watched a lot of

00:27:59.560 posturing and staging on the part of the leadership, the RINO leadership. I don't know where it heads,

00:28:07.160 but I know this. The Republican Party is lying to the American people every day. And that's got to

00:28:14.940 stop. It is posturing, but not producing. It is debating, but not delivering. And we've got to

00:28:25.860 see this change. And I don't see anyone, I don't see a lot of people rallying to my cry for reform,

00:28:33.520 the Republican Party. Ronna McDaniel? Mark, Ronna McDaniel is a three-time loser. And she's still there 1.00

00:28:41.960 and still ostensibly endorsed by President Trump, who is, you know, God bless him for his many talents

00:28:48.560 and achievements. But his strong suit is not personnel. I think we can agree on that.

00:28:56.280 Well, yeah. I mean, I think we saw the first two years of the administration. I mean, that's part of

00:29:00.480 the, one of the largest problems he had is that there were a lot of individuals in the administration

00:29:05.860 that were not on board, were actually undermining what we were trying to do.

00:29:09.580 Every day.

00:29:10.060 Every day. That's right. And I was there. Look, two things, Lou. One is, here's what I agree with

00:29:16.520 the American people. They don't understand what's happening at the border. I'm not sure because

00:29:21.080 they don't care as much that they're being lied to by the Democratic Party. And the Republicans have

00:29:28.220 not been aggressive enough to make the truth and reality known. So the Republicans play, that's why I

00:29:35.280 agree with you. They have a role in this. But I truly believe Americans feel disconnected from the

00:29:39.720 border. But if I truly believe that they realize that every single, you know, a fentanyl death that's

00:29:44.800 causing epidemic here, and they really understood that the fentanyl is coming from some place for it

00:29:49.060 would make a difference. If they understood that the 1.2 million gotaways and the number of murderers

00:29:54.320 and rapists and pedophiles and gang members, and that how gang members act as the cartel's drug

00:29:59.620 distribution arm throughout this entire nation, or the fact that the national security threat that could be

00:30:04.300 alive and well among the 1.2 million gotaways, I think that if they truly understood what it meant,

00:30:10.220 when we say every state is a border state, it would matter to them. But again, the mainstream media

00:30:15.120 has been lying to them. The mainstream media has been covered up for this administration.

00:30:19.040 You have the president of the United States lying to him saying there's nothing to see. You have the

00:30:22.400 secretary, a cabinet level official saying the border's secure, there's nothing to see. And the same from the

00:30:27.080 vice president. I mean, so that's why I go back to the hearings are important substantively,

00:30:31.280 because we're going to get the truth out there for the first time in two years. And look, I have the

00:30:38.360 same concerns about the Republican Party, Lou, that you're talking about right now. You know,

00:30:42.860 where have they been? They haven't been strong on this. You know, look, the Democrats are street

00:30:47.140 fighters. They are. They'll lie to your face and sleep well at night. Now, of course, I'm not advocating

00:30:52.580 lying, but I am advocating that the Republicans step up and be street fighters. You know, unfortunately,

00:30:57.660 I think we're conservative by nature, but they've got to do more. They've got to bring it to the

00:31:02.400 American people. As you said, they've got to be honest and start getting the true facts or reality 1.00

00:31:06.640 out there. It is. It is all of that and more. There's a refusal on the part of the Republican

00:31:13.480 Party. I think perhaps on the part of most Americans to acknowledge that the Marxist Dems are at war

00:31:20.820 with America. They're at war with the American family, the American worker, every middle class 0.87

00:31:30.380 value, every institution, everywhere you turn. The Biden regime and the Marxist Dems are trying to destroy

00:31:40.740 America. They're trying to destroy the family, trying to get parents out of schools, trying to keep

00:31:46.860 math, in many cases, trying to keep students out of schools. They don't care. And they don't care

00:31:55.000 about what happens to broadly this nation because they mean to carry out President Obama's promise

00:32:03.080 to fundamentally transform it. And by golly, he's winning right now. And we are being fundamentally

00:32:09.440 transformed. And it's because Republicans don't understand they're in a war.

00:32:13.420 Yeah, look, Lou, well, I can tell you, when it comes to the border, I could not agree more with

00:32:19.020 you. This administration took the most secure border in our lifetime, and they destroyed it

00:32:24.520 and dismantled it. And it's not because of incompetence. This was done by design. Look,

00:32:29.420 during the campaign, they said that what they were going to do when I was still commissioner,

00:32:33.260 in fact, I got charged with an alleged violation of the Hatch Act, which was later found up substantially

00:32:38.360 because as the commissioner, I said that if any administration does what the Biden campaign said

00:32:45.140 that they were going to do, this is back in 2020, I said that they would create an unmitigated

00:32:50.240 catastrophe along our southwest border. And what happened? He took over. He did exactly what they

00:32:55.460 said they were going to do. And we have the unmitigated catastrophe at our southwest border.

00:33:00.460 And look, here's what makes me so angry. They love to say that they inherited a dismantled system.

00:33:05.740 They keep saying it and saying that, like, if they keep saying it, then somehow it's going to be

00:33:09.540 proven true. But yet they never follow up with exactly what it specifically was that they were

00:33:14.820 that supposedly was dismantled. But we say they're the ones that dismantle it. And I could go down the

00:33:20.820 line, Lou. They stopped building the wall system. They ended the Remain in Mexico program, which was

00:33:24.940 one of the most successful tools we had. They ended the asylum cooperative agreements we have with all 0.81

00:33:30.340 three Northern Triangle countries. They've gutted ICE and restrict them from doing their job. I can keep

00:33:34.600 going on and on and on how they dismantled it. That's what we need Republicans to get out there

00:33:39.260 and start talking more about. And then the last thing I'll say with Republicans, Lou, is that they

00:33:43.880 need to stop with just saying how bad this administration sucks. Don't get me wrong. They

00:33:48.620 need to keep saying that. But but then they need to end with, OK, here's our plan to fix it. And here's

00:33:54.420 how we're going to show the political strength and courage to secure our borders and protect this

00:33:58.420 country. That's one thing that they fail to do effectively, Lou.

00:34:03.040 Yeah. And and if we can add to that, they've actually got to do something for once. And they're

00:34:08.420 in their careers. They've actually got to stand up and get it done. And they've got to do it in the

00:34:15.140 streets. They've got to do it in the halls of Congress, on the floor of the Congress. And they've

00:34:20.280 got to do it in community after community. I have never seen a more feckless, gutless group of people

00:34:27.700 than the rhino Republican leadership of that party. I I condemn them for their apathy, their passivity 1.00

00:34:36.780 and their indifference to this nation and the facts that are before them and their denial of those facts

00:34:42.820 and realities to the American people. They purport to want to truly represent at a level and standard

00:34:50.200 higher than that of the Marxist stems who are trying to destroy the country. The end result will

00:34:55.860 be the same for both parties if the Republicans don't change now. Mark Morgan, I want to tell you,

00:35:02.720 as always, I really appreciate you being here and I thank you for doing your best to get the truth

00:35:07.600 out to folks, particularly here on the Great America Show. Thanks for all you do. God bless you

00:35:15.020 and Merry Christmas. Lou, thank you for all you do for this country, too. And Merry Christmas to you

00:35:22.460 and your family. I wish you all the best. Mark Morgan telling it straight. And frankly, I'm not sure

00:35:27.500 the Republicans have enough fire in their bellies to do a thing about it, any of it. But let's hope that

00:35:33.400 they do. Please follow me on Twitter and Truth Social at Lou Dobbs. That's at Lou Dobbs on Twitter

00:35:39.320 and Truth Social. Thanks for being with us today. Here tomorrow, Congressman Matt Rosendale

00:35:44.700 fighting to stop rhino Kevin McCarthy from taking the House Speakership. Please join us here tomorrow. 0.93

00:35:51.260 Till then, God bless you and may God bless America.

The Great America Show - December 28, 2022

WE’RE ALREADY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WORST SELF-INFLICTED CATASTROPHIC CRISIS ON THE SOUTHERN BORDER IN OUR LIFETIME

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