A whistleblower has made allegations of financial corruption involving President Joe Biden directly and foreign governments and entities and individuals. Former CIA Director Michael Murrell has come forward with other serious allegations against former CIA Director Tony Blinken and former FBI Director John Brennan. Author Heather McDonald joins Lou Dobbs on the Great America Show to discuss her new book, When Race Trumps Merit.
00:04:43.700Well, Lou, you're absolutely right. And your puzzlement is completely justified. And as you
00:04:52.400say, though, we have been betraying this ideal of accomplishment, of effort, of achievement,
00:05:00.300of excellence for decades without really taking account that we are doing so. So we've had,
00:05:08.440to a maybe ever lessening degree, a discourse about accomplishment. But what's been growing in
00:05:15.900volume for decades and what reached an absolute peak of hysteria and neuroses after the George Floyd
00:05:24.980race riots was an alternative discourse, which says that there is no excellence in America.
00:05:32.200America. There is no opportunity in America. There is no greatness in America because we are
00:05:38.360systemically racist. And therefore, we have to make as the criterion for selection for every single
00:05:47.060mainstream institution, not excellence, not merit, but rather identity and above all race. And we have
00:05:55.940been tearing down meritocratic standards in education. Anybody that doesn't know about the vast racial
00:06:03.540preferences in admissions to college and admissions to law schools and admissions to medical schools
00:06:09.560in admission to business schools is in some kind of faraway hamlet, unaware of any kind of news that's
00:06:20.540been going on. But it has gotten much worse and much, much more dangerous. And that's why,
00:06:27.100you know, I'm trying to sound the alarm now that we were at the brink of losing everything about our
00:06:35.840civilization if we don't stand up to these phony charges of systemic racism.
00:06:41.500And standing up right now looks like some some equivalent, some analog for for Tiananmen Square,
00:06:51.280when the young dissenters stood in front of those tanks, because right now the forces arrayed against
00:06:58.060anyone who does in any way not conform, who does dissent, who does want to exercise his or her right of free
00:07:06.660speech, even if it's unpopular, even if it's a contra establishment, especially if it's contra
00:07:14.640establishment, you are canceled, you are expunged, you are removed, and in effect, destroyed by the forces
00:07:26.640that control our society, our economy. And it's it is a big ask now for people to actually exercise free
00:07:35.580speech, because there is sure to be consequence, negative consequence.
00:07:41.040Brilliant and Bravo. And that's it. I mean, you've said it all, Lou, and that's the conclusion of my
00:07:46.480book. But you're absolutely right. What this is going to take is personal courage and a commitment to
00:07:52.760principle that transcends the individual. But I talk about a conversation I had with a leading
00:08:01.080oncologist at an East Coast medical school who has devoted his life to trying to cure cancer. That's
00:08:08.100all he wants to accomplish. And he got a email message that was sent out across the country
00:08:16.020by the deputy director of the National Cancer Institute. This is a federal agency that funds
00:08:23.040about 35 cancer research centers across the country that are located at large university,
00:08:29.460you know, the cutting edge university medical schools, but they're no longer cutting edge because
00:08:35.400they're all capitulating to diversity, but they used to be. And this is where the most funded cancer
00:08:43.020research goes on. And the deputy director from the National Cancer Institute, a federal agency,
00:08:48.180you know, presidentially appointed, sent out a message saying, please send us a more diverse group of
00:08:56.760candidates for this particularly prestigious award that the National Cancer Institute grants to the
00:09:03.600most cutting edge researchers that are doing high risk, high reward science. She said, send us a
00:09:12.120different slate of candidates because what we've been, the awardees have not been diverse. She did not say,
00:09:18.600send us more meritocratic candidates, send us more excellent candidates. The message was change your
00:09:26.960standards. I don't care at what scientific cost in order to, so that we can put some black faces out
00:09:35.200there. And I asked this oncologist who sent me this email, when are you guys going to stand up and defend your
00:09:44.360life work? And he responded, we want our jobs, we need our jobs. If we stand up, the people who stand up, it's
00:09:54.500exactly as you said, Lou, they've all been canceled, they've been destroyed. And without much effect, he said the
00:10:03.680entire scientific enterprise is going to have to come down, it will be in 50 years, it will have been destroyed to the
00:10:11.360ground. And then it will have to be rebuilt from the ground up. So that's the problem. Unless you are outside of an
00:10:20.120organization that can impose these draconian punishments on simply speaking the truth, you're asking a lot of people. And
00:10:29.420that's, you know, it's a hard ask to make. But unless people start standing up, the left is going to win and it is all coming down.
00:10:41.340And I hate to say, Heather, I believe we see the the rubble field growing. It is we we are headed toward an
00:10:55.620amazing result for what has been the most powerful nation on earth for the for more than a century now,
00:11:03.640militarily, scientifically. And to think what this country has become in these latter decades is appalling.
00:11:15.480It's tragic. It's heart rending. Because not only will all of us suffer as Americans, but the world, they they don't
00:11:23.540realize it, or pretend at least that they don't see it at all. The effect will be global.
00:11:31.040Well, here's what's going on, Lou. You know, one of the themes of my book is the concept of disparate impact. And what we're
00:11:40.180doing here in the United States is tearing down every meritocratic standard, if it has a disparate impact on so called
00:11:47.940underrepresented minorities. So if there's a test that blacks don't do as well as whites on, we get rid of the test, we get rid of the
00:11:55.920expectation of excellence on the assumption that that's a racist test. No, it's not. What our problem is, is we have these vast
00:12:03.920academic skills gaps that make it inevitable that any colorblind meritocratic standard will have a disparate impact. And unless those
00:12:14.080skills gaps are closed, we will not have any possibility of racial proportionality coexisting with excellence. But we've
00:12:23.220decided that we would rather have no standards of excellence and have standards of excellence that have a disparate impact. So we're
00:12:30.220getting rid of gifted and talented programs for students. We're saying you may be a gifted, talented mathematics
00:12:38.220whiz, but we're not going to allow you to study calculus in the ninth grade, even though you're ready for it, because those calculus
00:12:46.220classes will not be racially proportionate. Meanwhile, China is throwing everything it's got at its most talented students. It is making sure that its
00:12:57.220math geniuses are given early advanced training to make sure that they can realize their talents to the fullest extent.
00:13:05.220So while we decide that we want our medical research labs, we're going to select our researchers for federal grants on the
00:13:15.220basis not of their scientific accomplishments, but on the basis of their skin color, China's not doing that. And so this is
00:13:25.220the progress of medical science will absolutely slow down in the United States.
00:13:33.220We are not selecting our best researchers to try and understand Alzheimer's disease or diabetes.
00:13:41.220We're saying the federal government is saying we would rather select on the basis of race. China will
00:13:47.220take up the torch. But and then they will. I mean, in nanotechnology, in military technologies, in AI and engineering. Again, we have engineering
00:13:58.220schools across the country that are selecting their students on the trivialities of race and sex. That is not happening in China.
00:14:08.220China. The freedom issue is a different one. China will not take up that torch.
00:14:14.220That's for sure. But as far as as far as dominance in science and tech, China will take over and crush us.
00:14:23.220With that, we're going to take a quick break. We're talking with author, scholar, great American Heather McDonnell.
00:14:31.220Her book is When Race Trumps Merit, How the Pursuit of Equity Sacrifices Excellence Destroys Beauty and Threatened Lives.
00:14:41.220And because we are a parochial broadcast, those are American lives we're talking about.
00:14:47.220Stay with us. We'll be back with Heather McDonnell.
00:14:51.220We're back now talking with Heather McDonnell and her book again is When Race Trumps Merit.
00:14:57.220Heather, I want to go to something that you know that you were mentioning as we broke for the commercial.
00:15:03.220And that is the idea that bureaucrats in the federal government are making decisions about who gets grants, how it's done, diversity trumping excellence.
00:15:16.220That's what you're really talking about here is a society, an economy now that is perverted.
00:15:23.220Well, it's absolutely true. I mean, we just get more and more bureaucratized, more and more risk averse.
00:15:28.220It's the feminization of the economy. Females are not the risk takers. They're not the entrepreneurs on average.
00:15:36.220I mean, obviously, any individual can be a complete, you know, variant from the norm.
00:15:44.220But there are absolute traits that are clustered around the two sexes that psychology has recognized for a long time.
00:15:54.220So we have, yeah, the increasing bureaucracies, the human resource departments, the diversity departments, of course,
00:16:02.220which are just the absolute poison of a meritocratic society and a society that's truth telling because we are not a racist country at this point.
00:16:13.220We were a racist country. We're a shamefully racist country.
00:16:16.220But we are not that country today. But the diversity bureaucracy is dedicated to that untruth.
00:16:22.220But what kills me, Lou, it's not just the apparatchit bureaucrats that have gone to, you know, gotten their MAs in some phony organizational student service, you know, falsehood of a non-academic discipline.
00:16:44.220It's the leaders of these organizations who are skilled, who should know better, who are nevertheless themselves selling out their organizations.
00:16:54.220So you have the editors of leading scientific magazines, journals.
00:17:00.220You have the heads of medical schools.
00:17:02.220You have the heads of our science funding agencies declaring that math is racist, that science is racist, that medicine is racist.
00:17:14.220And what it's driven by is the fact that we have not closed our racial disparities over decades of trying, over trillions of dollars of effort, redistribution, social programs, school funding at vastly higher levels in inner cities.
00:17:36.220And Americans of good will are terrified that the gaps are not going to close.
00:17:41.220And they're putting out there proleptically the only allowable explanation is racism because nobody wants to talk about the behaviors and the culture that are impeding this desired goal of all groups having equal outcomes.
00:17:59.220And the reason we don't have equal outcomes is not racism.
00:18:04.220It is a dysfunctional inner city culture.
00:18:08.220Have we ever been in a situation like this in our country where there are so many myths and deceits and false narratives and hoaxes being played on our entire society that's been allowed to grow up?
00:18:23.220People accept as fact what is absolute balderdash.
00:18:30.220I think that is what is so hard to accept.
00:18:33.220I'm astonished on a daily basis, Lou, that we are living these fictions.
00:18:40.220We're all forced to go along with them.
00:18:43.220The fiction that blacks are at daily risk of their lives from whites, and yet this is the standard line you get after the shooting of the 16-year-old Ralph Jarl in Kansas City when he rang the bell and, according to the homeowner, knocked on the wrong door at 10 p.m. at night.
00:19:07.220And the homeowner maybe trigger happy, maybe not, shot him, he will, Jarl will survive.
00:19:13.220But after this produced the usual outpouring of racial bathos that, oh, my God, to be black in America is to be at constant risk of our lives from whites, this is preposterous.
00:19:28.220The reason that blacks are at elevated risk of their lives is not from whites, it's not from the police, it's from other blacks.
00:19:36.220They're killing each other by the dozens every single day.
00:19:40.220Every single day there are dozens of black homicide victims.
00:19:44.220That is more than all white and Hispanic homicide victims combined, even though blacks are only 13% of the population.
00:19:52.220The interracial violence, if we're going to talk about who's killing whom across the races, blacks commit 87% of all interracial violence between blacks and whites and whites on blacks.
00:20:08.220So I have a long list of the activities while white that are lethal.
00:20:14.220You know, if you're reporting on a crime while white, if you are riding the subway while white, if you are walking in downtown Minneapolis while white, if you're riding your bicycle while white, if you're jogging while white, these are all activities that have led to egregious assaults, if not murder, black on white,
00:20:36.000that never gets talked about because the only thing that the media will ever talk about are the few instances of white on black assault.
00:20:45.000But those are so rare that that we hear about every single one of them.
00:20:54.000And I think we have to kind of pull back to and remind everybody we're talking about a society in which our media is owned.
00:21:03.000I'm going to say the number is somewhere approaching 95% is corporatist owned media in this country.
00:21:11.000You were saying earlier that the people have a sense of this, but they are overwhelmed.
00:21:18.000No wonder the most powerful institutions in our country are peddling what are outright lies and lies that do not contribute to the public good.
00:21:28.000There is no greater good at work here.
00:21:31.000This is destructive of the very society that we built, this great nation that we've built.
00:22:48.000But there is, in point of fact, differences in talent, and they have to be acknowledged.
00:22:54.000We would not, you know, this bloviating nonsense that has come up and become, has been put in granite in front of everyone on granite tablets.
00:24:31.000And those Chinese folks over there, the CCP, they have that little secret as well.
00:24:37.000We're going to talk about homogeneity.
00:24:39.000We're going to talk about diverse societies and the truth, because we are talking with truth teller Heather McDonnell.
00:24:46.000Her book is, I recommend it to you highly, When Race Trumps Merit, How the Pursuit of Equity Sacrifices Excellence, Destroys Beauty and Threatens Lives.
00:24:56.000We'll be back with Heather in just one moment.
00:24:59.000We're back talking with Heather McDonnell.
00:26:51.000You cannot on the one hand say that America is the absolute, you know, nadir of oppression towards people of color.
00:27:01.000And that, you know, we are we lead every every world civilization in awfulness and and and prejudice and racism.
00:27:11.000And you cannot at the same time say that we should be opening our borders to every third world person of color because they're mutually exclusive.
00:27:22.000If we're so awful, why do you want everybody to come here?
00:27:25.000So you get to have one proposition or the other.
00:27:28.000You know, if you're going to be an open borders person, admit that this country is not racist, that it is absolutely the least prejudiced country in the entire world.
00:27:41.000Or if you're going to insist that we are the most racist, prejudiced country, then tell third world people stay away, because if you come here, you will be oppressed.
00:27:51.000In fact, we have the worst of both worlds.
00:27:53.000We have the racism narrative and then we have this this absolute emasculation of our national sovereignty that says that all cultures are equal and that there will be no change in American culture.
00:28:09.000There's a horrific article out in the American conservative recently about a guy that lived in Mexico and describing just the lawlessness of public on public streets, the the sense of everybody trying to get ahead by breaking the rules.
00:29:12.000And the Republicans and their investigative committees holding hearings.
00:29:19.000And amongst those testifying, Tara Lee Rodas from Health and Human Services outright saying that the Biden administration is the middleman between the Mexican drug cartels and these and the sex trafficking of hundreds of thousands of children.
00:29:37.000This is as well as, of course, the smuggling of deadly fentanyl that claims at least 100,000 American lives every year.
00:29:47.000But without without response, there is no we are so innervated, so desensitized.
00:29:55.000Maybe what the word you used is the correct word where we have been emasculated.
00:30:02.000We don't know about our society because we can't come together because our politicians are afraid of the issues themselves.
00:30:08.000They choose sides, they virtue signal, and it's resolved.
00:30:48.000It's the left that's waging culture wars.
00:30:50.000And yet they immediately set the new terms.
00:30:53.000And, you know, we hear about trans rights.
00:30:57.000Rights are something – this is not some sort of inalienable right that was existing from all of human history.
00:31:07.000But they immediately claim that all of a sudden this is some uncontroversial, self-evident right.
00:31:14.000And that anybody that wants to say that parents should be allowed to know what's going on to their children in school from their teachers, that they're violating this new breed of trans rights.
00:31:29.000Now, as far as the social epidemic contagion of one in four high school students or younger saying they're non-cis heteronormative, not surprising.
00:31:43.000Adolescents are looking at every moment for some way to have power and authority over adults.
00:31:51.000And if you can come up with a whole set of hoops to jump through for pronouns and whatnot, it's not surprising that this – they're flocking to this identity because it's cool.
00:32:03.000It's, you know, the way – it's a way to not be normal, not be traditional, conservative.
00:32:09.000So the only hope is that it's a passing phase.
00:32:13.000But to the extent that the American Pediatric Association has its say, it'll have castrated chemically all these kids before they come to their senses and maybe say that there's more important things in life than simply trying to embrace some sort of transgression.
00:32:52.000Meanwhile, women don't have rights to choose their own bathrooms.
00:32:55.000They've got to share it with someone else.
00:32:57.000They don't – Title IX means nothing to women because now transformed genders can race against them, jump against them, run against them, do whatever in their sport and beat them.
00:33:28.000I mean, I don't – what's not to like in this situation, Lou?
00:33:31.000You have the feminists who destroyed male sports through Title IX and said, well, you know, these may be more popular, you know, but we're going to take them out so that we can have equal funding.
00:33:44.000And so now the feminists are getting trounced by the men.
00:33:48.000And I say let both sides eat each other up.
00:33:57.000I don't either, except I have grandkids who are playing sports, and I want them to be able to play sports as young ladies against young ladies.
00:34:05.000I want the guys to have, you know, their domain.
00:34:37.000You know, I really do not care if females are no longer going to be able to win swimming titles or running titles against men.
00:34:45.000If they're not willing to stand up and say that there are absolute differences in skeletal development, muscular development, hormonal development, to hell with them.
00:35:02.000All of the issues we've been talking about today, of course, are critically important, but ignored too often.
00:35:08.000No public hearings, no major studies about all of the controversial issues we're confronted with.
00:35:14.000And too few social critics like Heather McDonnell have both the talent and the courage to take on these big issues, to separate facts from labels and smoke, seeking truth.
00:35:26.000Our founders, inspired and blessed by God, created our Constitution, and our cherished rights, rights now threatened from within, principally by the left, the Marxist Dems.
00:35:37.000And like our founders who created these rights, we have a fight brewing over the preservation of those rights, these American rights.
00:35:46.000Heather, we thank you for being in the fight.
00:35:48.000Your concluding thoughts, if you will.
00:35:56.000And it is Western civilization that created the very ideas that the left has appropriated now and is trying to destroy Western civilization with tolerance, equality, due process of law, limited government.
00:36:09.000These are very specific creations of a very specific civilization that is now a universal gift to the world.
00:36:18.000And people should stop apologizing for it.
00:36:55.000Joining us tomorrow will be Just the News editor, John Solomon, with lots, of course, to take up, including his new book for children, All American Stuff.