WHERE ARE THE EPSTEIN FILES?
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In this episode of The Great Americana Show, we discuss the near miss at Chicago's Midland airport, the recent near miss on a Southwest Airlines flight, the latest in a growing list of aviation disasters across the country, and much more!
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hello everybody and welcome to the great america show it's great to have you with us thanks so
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much for joining us on this beautiful tuesday in america well it's a new day and the faa
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and pilots across america don't seem to be getting any better if you're joining us on video in just
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a moment we're going to roll a clip for you another near missed uh at this this time at
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chicago's midway airport where a southwest airliner was attempting to land private jet decided to cross
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the runway just in front of the plane here's the clip
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unbelievable that this is constantly what we're dealing with
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now it seems uh in america though we get on planes thinking they're safer than cars but those
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statistics are soon going to start to turn um with these unqualified folks flying aircrafts and
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working in air traffic control towers uh it seems uh this incursion was on the uh the private jet
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which was being operated by flexjet a private jet charter company crossing the runway without the
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clearance uh making that uh 737 that southwest 737 go around holds up to 180 passengers so uh great on
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those pilots on that southwest plane uh for evading uh what could have been uh yet another aviation
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disaster uh the third one in a month uh so great on those guys the biden irs folks caught leaking
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taxpayer information of over 400 000 americans including president trump as leftists are now suing to
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stop doge over alleged privacy concerns it doesn't really make much sense 405 000 taxpayers
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information uh was leaked uh under joe biden now conservatives folks like you and i what are they
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looking for we're the ones who pay the taxes we're the ones who don't evade the taxes the ones
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that you should be looking into are these illegals who don't pay taxes and these democrats
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who are on the payrolls of military industrial complexes and getting kickbacks that's what
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they're so terrified about they're terrified that elon musk is going to get to the bottom of where
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they're really making their money because it's not that 174 000 congressional salary or that
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200 000 salary over in the senate they're terrified folks our guest today is tony shaffer he's the
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president of project sentinel great guest of the show a great friend of the show we have him on
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often uh he's also a county newly elected county commissioner um we're going to be taking up a lot
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of issues today 9 11 tony was a whistleblower 9 11 uh the jfk files the epstein files pam bondy
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told us the files were on her desk last week what is she holding back what needs to be declassified
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jeffrey epstein was a private citizen what's there to declassify what's the holdup why why don't we
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have these documents uh miss attorney general you told us they were on your desk ready to go last
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week well we're ready to see them we're going to take all this up with tony shaffer president of
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project sentinel tony it's great to have you back on the show uh booking you i think it's hard of
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booking donald j trump and i'm talking about president trump he's a very busy man so now that we've got
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you i'm going to use every bit of time i've got with you sure i want to begin with first everything
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that's going on inside the government the deep state that still seems to be uh lingering a little
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bit congresswoman anna paulina luna of florida uh is taking issue with uh pam bondy attorney general
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pam bondy uh sending out the tweet sending out tweets asking her why last week she said she has
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the epstein files ready on her desk ready to declassify the jfk files which president trump
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apparently within his first week said were declassified now a month later we still don't
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have the jfk files and a week later we don't have the epstein files what's going on
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you got me because uh i recognize the importance of just getting it all out and being done with it
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uh there's other areas there's the roswell issues which i think we're going to learn a lot about
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uh 9-11 issues there's a range of things and i understand the need to kind of uh put them in
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order don't throw them all out i understand there needs to be kind of a you put it out you let people
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analyze it they get over you know go with everything and then you go to the next thing i i i get that but
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to say that it it's on your desk and then silence i can i can speculate why john i think there there's
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probably some really bad news regarding our own u.s government intelligence community association
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so tony yeah so i think i think uh i think some names on there are going to be from uh some very
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well-known intelligence leaders i think there's some names from uh the conservative side and so i think
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that that may i i'm speculating i have no inside information but uh there's there's two people who
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can release that list instantly it's either cash patel or pam bondy each each of them have access to it
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and can release it so this is uh this is something they should do and just be done with it as soon
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as possible so before we go into what your speculation on maybe what may be on the epstein
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list uh this is from polymark and now polymark it's one of these online gaming sites gambling sites
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where you can bet on politics and what you think is going to happen uh this was just from a few hours
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ago jay-z is now listed as the number one suspect on the epstein list 70 chance he's on it highly
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interesting jp morgan ceo jamie diamond has also risen to become the number seven suspect
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which is also very interesting uh from his part because this is a man who i think debanked kanye west
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so uh if he's on there sort of interesting having his cake and eating it too so uh barring those two
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folks what do you think is in there before the show we were talking a little bit i am under the
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impression that there's nothing national security in the epstein files you know just a few names of
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people who may have went to his island on his plane uh been associated with him what is in there that
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that is so privy to national security do you think that that would cause a delay well let me ask you a
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question how do you think epstein became a billionaire well it was mass manipulation it was lies it was
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deception and well i think it was our government no i think it was our government i think our government's
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paid him a lot of money to do uh intel and really evil things on behalf of the intelligence community
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so i think that's that's going to be a big revelation again i'm speculating i have no insider information
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here john i'm just saying i've seen this movie before so you know you you put people in there like john
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brennan uh like uh oh i don't know you had uh uh a couple of folks in there i think um george tenent
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was no saint uh you people you put people in there who have no scruples or ethics and katie barred the
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door so i think that's secondly is some of the names we're we're talking about here i think we're going
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to come to find that they're very senior uh business leaders uh hollywood leaders as well as i think
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some republicans are on that list that they're going to have a hard time explaining well there's
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no explaining it so i but one of the things i think is going to be most even if we know what to
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be true which i think most of us do president clinton being on that list is going to be ground
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shattering because a lot of democrats have been in in denial uh so i think it's going to be that's
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going to be something else really i think uh uh um affects the the public's opinion about a lot of
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things as soon as it comes out i think it's going to come out going down the rabbit hole a
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little bit more since you've got us started halfway down the hole we must continue to go
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uh what kind of work could he have possibly been doing for the government for foreign agencies
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uh his companion gillian maxwell her father very influential uh overseas uh what what's your
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thoughts what could he have been doing so so do you are you familiar with the term brownstoning
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no all right so brownstoning is a firm as is a form of honeypot honeypots
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you know spies we're all taught to honeypots you basically find a really attractive woman
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you match her up against a a uh high roller general senior government official she's all gaga for him
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gets him into bed he's married so he's compromised well that's nothing compared to brownstoning brownstoning
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is the ultimate rabbit hole to use your your term john what they do is they get you in a honeypot
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and that's not good enough no no no that honeypot that female then says hey i've got this uh really
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cute teen who wants to sleep with us and she's probably 15 12 15 16 and then you get that on video
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and they own you that's what was going on and that's what i think they're most afraid to come out
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because you know what i think they got videos of all this stuff if they if they seized everything
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epstein had they've got the videos just saying that's disgusting i mean the picture is telling
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you no no i i i understand i mean the picture of bill clinton in the high heels and and uh blue dress
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was not something that was just drawn out of nothing in my opinion i mean that's something that had to
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have been reenacted uh but the question is i mean if those things are on tape uh tony are they
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things that will ever come out i mean are they things that we'll ever hear about are they things
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that'll just go into the big black hole of deep statery that we just never hear from again it's up
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to donald trump and and pam bondy and i i i'd like to believe they're going to have the courage of their
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convictions and do the right thing and get it out they need to get it out so now why was a deal not
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made before we move on to this because this is a topic i think that you know five years ago nobody
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knew who jeff not nobody but a lot of people didn't know who jeffrey epstein was now you know
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we get glane maxwell he allegedly kills himself after we find out he hung out with some of the
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most prominent people in the world why did they not try to pull glane maxwell i mean why did they
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not try to squeeze her a little bit more to get some information she's got nothing to lose he's dead
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uh she's in jail for a very long time yeah i i could only speculate i don't think they need her
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to squeeze her i think they got everything they need i think they've got the client list they've got the
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other co-conspirators i think her um her incarceration her conviction and incarceration
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is just symbolic it's she is she is she has said and i believe that i agree with her she's a proxy
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for epstein people are blaming her for it but she as much as anything yeah it's true uh and the people
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who actually paid for him to do what he did and were involved in his wrongdoing they're still out
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there and again that's why i think the list needs to get out this is insane i want to move on to
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the jfk files another thing i talk to roger stone about this all the time he's written books on it
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everyone's dead if he was killed by the government i think we all believe he was and no he was killed
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by the u.s government uh everyone's dead the man who presumably killed him is probably dead the way
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that the method that was used to kill him is highly outdated what has been the delay on this i mean
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president trump you know started to declassify his first time around now four years later uh again
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we still don't have these 2400 documents that are apparently hidden somewhere so the warren commission
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like the 9-11 commission was a complete sham they were there to cover up and suppress evidence not
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to highlight it and and it was all about a narrative i would argue john the the uh techniques
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for establishing a narrative that was uh that were established for the by the warren commission were
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used again by the 9-11 commission well and to your point i think that there's certain names uh a name
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a a name that we both know bush i think there's a name bush involved in the kennedy assassination
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well i think that's going to be an issue i think there's a lot of there's a lot of narratives that will
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be shattered by the release i think that's what it is i i because at this point to your to what you
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said i think everybody's pretty much dead i they just had two days ago yeah the fbi agent who was on
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the uh the lincoln with kennedy tried to you know get up on there he died so there's really nobody left
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of any consequence who would be hurt by the release i think it's all about changing certain perceptions
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of certain people i think there's two presidents are going to go down very badly in history uh george bush
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and bill clinton i think it's going to be really bad for both of them by the way that guy you
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mentioned i think you said he lived to like 98 but knowing the way the government i'm surprised he
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lived that long tony knowing the way the government makes people poof disappear into the into the thing
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you know it's it's really really uh mind-blowing to me how we live in this country and i constantly say
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this on the show tony it's we're just played with mass deception and lies everything that seems to be
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told to us it has been told to us in the past is a lie exactly i mean who killed abraham lincoln now
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now we have to go back and we have to question how was abraham lincoln killed uh yeah you know if
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if we find out that uh jfk was killed by in fact our own government it makes you question do we put a
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man on the moon tony what else were we lied about throughout the course of history now i asked a friend
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of ours russ tysus because and he said yeah now i want to get your take uh when we do finally get
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these documents do you think inside these documents jfk files there'll be someone named
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an actual name uh a tactic used uh an x whatever somebody that it's written in plain clear sight not for us
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to the cipher x so-and-so killed jfk so what we're going to come find is military orders and dispatches
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very rarely are names specifically listed for example uh when i wasn't an operative i signed
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everything in an alias and a pseudonym i don't want to give it out it's still classified but so all my
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documents were actually signed if i did a report i signed in my pseudonym i didn't even sign as tony
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shaffer when i was somewhere else i would have a cover for status or cover for action cover for
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status like when i went to afghanistan i think everybody knows my my deployment alias was chris
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striker that's been publicly released it's like yeah it's out there so i and then when i did something
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else i would have a cover for action and an alias that matched the cover for action so
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so what what what part of the challenge is if this was run like a real intelligence operation
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which i believe it was you've got to decipher who is what and that's not an easy thing because
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you're going to have dispatches cables you're going to have instructions given it's it's not as easy
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as just putting a file out and saying here it is because as i just explained tradecraft uh and and
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uh the the techniques used to to protect individuals is is something that has gone
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on for generations most of the techniques you may laugh at this john most of the techniques we use
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today were developed by you want to you want to know who developed most of our spying techniques that
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we use today i guess who george washington george washington no i'm not joking he set up the system
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of pseudonyms of cryptonyms of numbers there's a series of books written about this turn turn was
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a series done about washington spot so most of what we do to this day was created by the continental
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army by george washington and is still used so anyway my point being is it they got to sort through
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all that so just releasing it all it's like you get a jumble of stuff so i i think that the government
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is does owe us the information they just need to explain it they need to put it all out there and
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explain who is what within that map that mess i guess the easier way to ask it is will it say in
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plain clear writing lee harvey oswald did indeed not kill jfk i think we're going to come to find that
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he was a dupe that he was the decoy i think that'll be that's easier to discern than who shot kennedy
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believe it or not right i think they're always going to pin it on him i'll never forget seeing
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that interview where they finally tell him what he's being held for and that look of utter confusion
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like what i mean he you can't fake that it's like what it's like no so i i i think he was always going
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to be the dupe and i don't i don't think he knew he was going to be the dupe but he was always going
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to be the dupe so right and at the end of the day it's like your word against his they put you in a
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room with a gun in your hand and like oh i mean the government's never did any kind of deception
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to us before now we try to stage president trump and russiagate and two assassination attempts were
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they part of the government i don't know maybe one day we'll find out um but i want to pick that up on
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the other side of this quick break and i also want to take up the 9-11 commission because it's something
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you've worked very hard on and and uh you know it took it made your career take a turning point so i
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want to take that up on the other side of this quick break because i think it's something very
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important we're coming right back with tony schaefer folks stay with us i'm excited to announce that
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free folks we're back we're talking with tony schaefer he's the president of project sentinel
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he's actually now county commissioner congratulations tony schaefer thank you
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uh i hope you have as much fun as that job is worth uh comes with a big paycheck so don't spend
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it all one it comes with virtually no paycheck and i already got we got sued the first week in office
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so there you go that means you're doing a hell of a job right that's right i mean you're doing something
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right tony i want to turn to something that made your career take a turning point and it was your role
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in blowing the whistle on 9-11 everything we knew uh the things that we weren't telling the american
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people the things that we weren't telling our own into our intel committee wasn't telling our own
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military and our leaders yeah give me your thoughts tony about what happened on that day and the days that
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led up to it so i think a lot of us were babes in the woods i'll just be blunt so first off we weren't
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we our team the the able danger team we were like the movies we were like uh way off the books
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uh a couple of generals said hey let's put some people together in a black operation and let's let
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them go and see what they find so we were left to our own devices which means we weren't part of the
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larger intelligence infrastructure we were special operations command we were doing this as a special
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operations mission so so we weren't talking to the intelligence community other than to pull
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information out right so uh i john we weren't supposed to find what we found that's what's
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that's what i've come to conclude and so when we figured out because we were outside the system that
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hey there's terrorists here they're they're looking to do no good and oh by the way this is not a good
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idea we should do something about it and that's where the it becomes surreal because six months before
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9 11 well actually seven months eight eight months the whole thing got shut down they briefed the
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options again this is special operations command this is this they kill people for a living john
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yeah they briefed options to the chairman of the joint chiefs hugh shelton and then all of a sudden
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we're told yeah thank you stand down that's it and so the next eight months we're trying to figure out
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why are we told to stop and then it happens now what was this what what month and year was this
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tony so january of 2001 was when hugh shelton was briefed on the able danger these are the things we
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want to do to stop al-qaeda and we're told yeah never mind it's okay and then obviously 9 11 happens
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on 9 11 and so uh 9 11 2001 so that's that's what and then after that i go to the 9 11 commission
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and just say hey this is what we were doing and next thing you know i'm targeted captain scott phil
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part is targeted and we're made to look crazy it's like oh you know they just want attention it's like
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no we have good careers we're having fun we're just here to tell you what happened and i think that
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we became an uh to quote al gore an inconvenient truth to to the larger cover-up and that's what
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happened so that's that's what happened in a nutshell we knew the terrorists were here we had
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options to take them out we were told not to take them out and then we were vilified for having come
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forward and told the 9 11 commission we could have stopped the attacks and i think more more is to come
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there's more specifics john that kurt weldon and i plan on getting out once we're authorized because
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there's still two elements of able danger that were beyond top secret that i'm going to have to
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talk to pentagon leadership about to to be declassified so i've already made that request
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that's you know it's crazy to me that we even knew down to the granular level tony i went to flight
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school yeah and when i was told along the way we knew that these guys are training to fly that that that
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the planes would be used it wasn't just uh they were going to go in and blow something up it was
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that they were using planes to to create these attacks
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you know i hate to ask you this question because i hate to find out the answer do you think george
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bush knew prior to september 11th oh yeah oh yeah i've convinced at this point hold on hold on but
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not that the attacks were coming but where they were targeting and uh what was being used these
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airplanes were being used to target so i can't i don't know how specific but yeah i think the whole
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the whole uh being in the classroom being read to the facial expressions he knew i'm convinced at
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this point because uh you or i john we get told there's an attack what's the first thing you do it's
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like excuse me i gotta go yeah no no he he sat there that that whole that was theater because i've been in
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situations where i'm in command i'm a director i'm in a chain of command where i something happens
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i i start it's like i i get excuse me i've got to go no you don't sit there you don't sit there and
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just that was all theater so to me if you just take that as a premise the other things you ask need to be
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uh items that we examine and and have a second investigation to answer now is it just george bush or
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someone like donald rumsfeld the secretary of defense of the time is that so look don don and
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i became friends and i i um i don't think don was in on it i don't i think don was an honest man
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i came to know him a little bit uh and i've sat face to face with him several times and he was the
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guy i blew the whistle against by the way and we became friends later in later years and i told him
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we were sitting in the green room there at fox we you know you and i saw each other at cpac uh i was
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there in a green room across the river in well no it was like right there in dc right there at the
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400 north capital across the union station yeah right across the union station and it was for i think the
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2012 9 11 anniversary and so we're sitting across from each other and we're talking and i said uh well
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you know mr secretary there's something between us and he looked at me and kind of smiled and says
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yeah able danger he remembered john he remembered this yeah it's like i get shivers thinking about
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this he says yeah able danger and he looked at me says tony why is that why is that why is that
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between us and i sat there i said because you were lied to and i went through and explained some
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of the stuff you and i just i went through in detail i said look this is what we were doing and this
00:25:42.440
is what we learned they lied to you and he looked at me square in the eye says tony this wasn't the
00:25:48.740
only thing i was lied to about oh my goodness so i i i don then became one of my my biggest defenders
00:25:59.320
after that he actually publicly said good things about me and tried to defend so either he was a
00:26:05.460
fabulous actor and remember he was the one bush folk guy that did go against trump out of the whole
00:26:11.460
group uh back in the in the the 2016 and 2020 cycle just saying so no no you're in a range of
00:26:18.960
in a world of deranged people and you know that lou dobbs i i swear to you tony and you knowing him
00:26:24.940
longer than i have uh i had the privilege of working with him every single day but uh he had such a keen
00:26:31.740
and acute sense for people everybody that i came into work with him and and said i like this person he
00:26:38.080
would explain to me why they were bad and i'd say you're crazy old man you don't know what you're
00:26:41.280
talking about and i'd raffle off every single one of them and he would say no no no no no no there
00:26:47.200
was very few people i'd go to him and say lou this is a good guy and he'd agree with me on because he
00:26:51.260
knew he had such a keen sense it was like a sense and he knew who the bad actors were but he always
00:26:58.320
liked donald rumsfeld and now i don't know why because there were things that lou knew that he never
00:27:02.840
told me i mean the guy was a book of secrets you know he died a book of secrets if you told him
00:27:08.040
something in confidence he didn't tell anybody not even his wife who he told everything to um
00:27:13.080
so by him you know having that soft spot for donald rumsfeld they made me wonder what lou really knew
00:27:19.040
because lou could not stand george w bush he hated his guts his father he liked but he hated george w bush
00:27:26.060
was blackballed from his white house what would george w bush's premise be for allowing this to
00:27:32.280
happen in america they went over to war in iraq they invaded iraq they didn't even take the oil i
00:27:37.720
mean so what is the reasoning for for allowing these wars to start he said it uh and one of his
00:27:44.980
i think his dad said in a speech about the new world order i think george bush believed in this utopian
00:27:51.200
future where we were all one government and and by the way it's not a left or right thing a lot of folks
00:27:57.160
on both sides of the aisle somehow think that that a utopian one world government where everybody
00:28:02.260
gets along and kumbaya i think a lot of people believe in that and it's it's it's folly and so
00:28:07.820
i think bush believed in that i think they believed that that the the uh the standing down of the
00:28:13.020
military did not serve us well they needed a predicate to get us back going i've said before
00:28:17.820
john and i think lou agreed with me we didn't need the aumf we didn't need the authorized use of military
00:28:23.840
force to go after the bad guys we already had enough authorities we just weren't permitted to do it so
00:28:28.500
i think there were a lot of things that were used and i think the real power behind that was dick
00:28:33.920
cheney no so just saying so what's the reason though what what is the reason for invading iraq we
00:28:42.280
know that's another thing we know tony we know there's no weapons of mass destruction there what
00:28:47.260
is the reason for in it's like time and history always repeats itself right and we never learn our
00:28:52.540
lessons afghanistan syria iraq when will we learn our lessons number one number two what was the
00:28:58.520
rationale before or i should it should be there there was there was some other well this is the
00:29:03.840
way i look at it since the end of the cold war there there's had to be some level of conflict to
00:29:09.500
justify the massive and pervasive military industrial complex remember eisenhower warned us about this
00:29:15.320
and eisenhower actually called it a military and military industrial congressional complex
00:29:21.040
congress plays a huge role in this so remember we've had the gulf one uh the stand down kind of
00:29:29.440
peace the peace dividend clinton firing by the way bill clinton fired like 300 000 federal employees
00:29:35.100
just saying you know people forget but he did anyway and then and then uh we needed to have something to
00:29:42.580
keep kind of the war machine going 9-11 happens then we get bogged down in afghanistan we get bogged
00:29:49.060
and iraq those are two wars and then well you know we start ending afghanistan we have uh ukraine oh ukraine's
00:29:57.260
the next big thing there's always been something to keep this kind of banking industrial complex going so i i think
00:30:04.880
there are people who are truly evil who see us as a resource not as a people under god and i think they they are
00:30:12.400
very effective in manipulating uh governments to do certain things as they wish so i want to get your
00:30:19.660
take on this because i spoke with russ tice about this last week and over dinner and then again on the
00:30:24.640
show the intel agencies the three-letter agencies and the need for them to be audited tony uh you know
00:30:31.760
i i was surprised to find out how many people between uh actual people on the payroll and then people who are
00:30:37.620
government contractors it's into the millions right who is working who are working at these and and
00:30:42.340
that's just just the main three the nsa the cia the dia now you go into all the other ones the the
00:30:48.400
army i think there's like 16 or 17 of them in total but we've got like millions and millions of people
00:30:54.240
who are on the government payroll and contractors are not cheap tony they're worth a few hundred bucks
00:30:59.080
a few hundred thousand dollars a year why do we have so many how many do we actually need i mean
00:31:04.240
so contractors yeah contractors before 9-11 were were a few you had saic and a few other
00:31:12.500
kind of beltway bandit things uh and they were there and they were primarily focused on how to work
00:31:20.540
to augment uh technical issues with the government like right it pokes and stuff like that but after
00:31:27.460
9-11 that door was opened by dick cheney halliburton halliburton became a huge contractor
00:31:35.060
i mean i remember being in afghanistan and we had halliburton cooks kbr kellogg brown and root a
00:31:43.320
subsidiary of halliburton john these guys a a cook this is in 2001 dollars a cook was making 85 to
00:31:51.880
95 000 this is in 2001 dollars i cook and and it went up from there so so that that door was opened
00:32:01.260
and every large corporation rushed in raytheon general dynamics uh boeing everybody and what happens is
00:32:12.180
like each button to see like these guys may be pulling down 80 90 000 80 to 180 000 but the company
00:32:21.260
gets another hundred thousand dollars for administrative above that so each butt in a seat
00:32:27.240
uh cost you know you the company gets probably about three hundred thousand dollars and you then
00:32:34.400
control that you can pay that employee within that range so you can pay them like 80 000 you're a bank
00:32:40.180
and a bunch so that's why this becomes so lucrative and and they create phony baloney jobs constantly
00:32:47.760
my ex-wife actually had a job that she was hired as part of a team a small team i don't remember the
00:32:55.160
contractor's name i think it was uh i think it was um i'll think of it in a second
00:33:02.020
they they hired a team get this they hired a team of of of people to analyze worker sentiment within
00:33:13.520
national geospatial intelligence agency so that's their job and and guess they they hired 12 people
00:33:19.780
they hired eight people to do the analysis or to manage it and then you had to have other
00:33:26.860
administrators uh come in to do like graphics uh and so the whole thing this sentiment survey team
00:33:35.020
was costing the government five million dollars a year oh my goodness for absolutely nothing by the
00:33:43.320
way that by the way they never produced a report because no one they didn't really want to know
00:33:47.120
about the sentiment oh we don't want to know that i'm just telling you how it works so if you take that
00:33:52.440
as a microcosm and you expand it out to every intelligence directorate you've got billions that
00:33:58.920
are being wasted so that's why i have no problem of them going through as a matter of fact i've told a
00:34:03.960
certain person who may be in charge of the pentagon if i came in i would cut 25 of the intelligence
00:34:10.980
community instantly instantly across the board yeah you hear stories like that tony and then you
00:34:17.360
you talk to people who are mad that donald trump's got doge i want to take one more quick break here
00:34:21.860
a short break and come back and take up the doge in our final segment and get your take on that about
00:34:27.820
the cutting that needs to be done we'll come right back with tony shaffer he's the president
00:34:31.560
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folks we're back with the great tony shaffer he's the president of project sentinel he's actually a
00:35:45.060
new county commissioner so congratulations once again to tony thank you john he mentioned to us in
00:35:49.740
the last segment he's already getting sued so we know he's doing it oh right first week it's like
00:35:55.200
here's your suit sir and no not a brand new nice canali or uh it's a lawsuit not at all oh boy uh
00:36:06.700
speaking of lawsuits doge uh elon musk's committee tony i find myself arguing with people time and time
00:36:13.300
again nobody elected uh elon musk well nobody elected valerie jarrett in the first obama
00:36:19.680
administration or the second nobody elected obama a third term when you got biden in there and he's
00:36:25.340
running the damn show you've got the world's smartest man you've got the world's richest man
00:36:29.540
in my opinion he's got top level security clearances tony he's making rockets to uh send up to to the
00:36:36.080
space station and do all types of things where he's got high level security clearances if they don't
00:36:41.140
want elon musk running a program like this tony is there anyone you could think of that is more
00:36:46.180
qualified than him perhaps no and plus he's fearless he doesn't care he's like you said he's rich
00:36:51.240
he's uh been successful apparently he gets around and sleeps with interesting women just saying if
00:36:57.600
isn't a bad thing i think it's kind of cool and uh so he doesn't care you know he is kind of a real
00:37:03.840
life tony stark in a good way and so um uh i think it's great and so i am all for him
00:37:10.680
uh elon musk identifying all the waste he can find and i have no problem with him uh poking the
00:37:17.760
bureaucracy to get him to pay attention and it's like i've heard all this drama about these emails
00:37:23.140
john if you or i got an email saying can you tell me tell me five things you did last week
00:37:29.040
sure we can tell you early like there you go i'm done but this was all about just trying it's like a
00:37:37.560
sounder it's like a ping in underwater it's like uh trying to figure out who responds that's all it was
00:37:42.940
like people are reading too much into this like he's just trying to figure out who's still you know
00:37:47.460
paying attention or not yeah and then going from there so people people freaking out and yeah i'm sorry
00:37:52.680
uh the president was elected the president has the right to uh to uh hire special government
00:37:59.320
employees which musk has and to your point john he's got a clearance that was given by the old
00:38:04.580
the uh the biden administration so it's just it's insane that they're they're crying so much about
00:38:10.600
trying to stop him from finding waste within our government the mistake i think he made is he gave
00:38:15.540
them like a few days to do it i would have sent it to them yeah you know i would have sent it to
00:38:19.460
every employee who was working that day i would have or coordinated and you have until 5 p.m to
00:38:24.680
answer today i mean if you're a government employee you should be checking your email i get an email
00:38:28.280
it comes up on my phone tony and i answer right away it's what it is uh send it on a thursday send
00:38:33.500
it thursday close the business telling it telling him by friday close the business tell me what you did
00:38:38.600
this week that's it tell me five things you did yeah it's very simple to me tony if someone like you
00:38:44.740
said someone has five things to do i'm sure i mean that's the easiest thing i've been asked
00:38:48.620
yeah but what to do you know the crazy thing is is that the american p i i have to be completely
00:38:54.000
honest with you i thought polling would have shown uh you and i were both with mark mitchell the other
00:38:59.460
the other day at cpac i love mark great guy he's one of the most brilliant pollsters if not the most
00:39:03.680
brilliant pollster absolutely in all of polling and his polling shows overwhelmingly and i this is
00:39:09.300
where i i can't i'm so surprised i thought the american people would have maybe said all right enough
00:39:14.220
elon musk enough of this stuff enough of the deportations tony we're seeing some of the
00:39:18.940
highest numbers and it's not just from rasmussen this week from harvard harris who's far far left
00:39:25.740
leaning 81 percent of these folks say they support deportations uh of anyone who are here illegally and
00:39:32.260
committed crimes uh 92 percent of republicans 74 percent independence and 62 percent of democrats in
00:39:38.920
that poll when asked uh they agree with undertaking a full-scale effort to find eliminate fraud and
00:39:44.180
waste in the government expenditures 76 percent across the board say they support it once again
00:39:49.280
90 percent republicans 74 independent 62 democrat support it okay so it's not just like you know he's
00:39:56.380
going out here and doing the other thing is he told us everything he was going to do tony like
00:40:02.000
well that's the thing it's like um i two things i think are apparent first
00:40:09.520
the the democrats had controlled the narrative so effectively across the board i think they were
00:40:17.960
able to affect polling big time and i think mark mitchell to your point he saw through it he knew what
00:40:23.140
was going on and i think now that people are kind of allowed to be out there and telling what they really
00:40:27.780
think people do want donald trump to fulfill his promises i think look i think the democrats cheated
00:40:34.640
this last election i just don't think they had any effect because it was such an overwhelming number
00:40:38.980
and i think the percentages were way higher and i think mark mark would say something similar
00:40:43.460
if he were asked but i think that's what's going on it's like people are allowed to be honest now and
00:40:48.760
they're saying yeah we want these people out of here we like what trump's doing i think i think it's only
00:40:53.000
going to continue to i think trump's number is going to continue to improve
00:40:55.680
yeah to your point about mark outsmarting it after you you joined us the other night and you
00:41:01.340
had left uh you left us hanging uh mark and the other fellow i met who's runs quantum polling
00:41:07.460
we're sitting there talking to each other explaining how they do it i thought we thought you just put
00:41:11.400
out a damn poll people answer tony and here's the answers there's all types of waiting there's all
00:41:16.820
types of going back and looking at exit polling and uh under-reporting minorities over-reporting
00:41:22.420
minorities over-reporting women under and it was the craziest thing i give these guys a lot more
00:41:26.500
credit than it's worth uh yeah it's an art it really is truly crazy you'd mentioned election
00:41:31.920
stealing someone completely different than these two fellows actually it brought up to me at cpac
00:41:36.200
that tony schaefer is working on some sort of election fraud they didn't specify it was for this
00:41:43.240
election or if it was 2020 is there anything to tell us that you're working on yeah no uh the same
00:41:48.140
thing mark mark mitchell and and rasmussen has really taken the lead they've been trying to get
00:41:52.800
to the bottom of the u.s postal services role in moving ballots uh as part of the 2020 election and
00:42:00.180
that's jesse morgan and uh the pallet of ballots issue it's nothing it's nothing new as a matter of
00:42:05.560
fact lou had him on yeah lou had jesse morgan on so um essentially jesse morgan i spoke with jesse
00:42:12.740
about six months ago jesse's still around he's not changed his tune nobody that i know on that
00:42:17.840
investigation to include me being fired by bill barr has changed our tune we all believe that there
00:42:24.720
were that that at least one probably three trailers of curated ballots 53 foot trailers removed from
00:42:32.200
bethpage new york into central pennsylvania staged to go into to um philadelphia for counting and i do
00:42:39.100
believe that happened in 2020 so you mentioned bill barr it's sort of interesting before this election
00:42:45.420
we saw him on martha mccallum show a lot we saw him on fox news a lot neil cavuto brett bear noticed
00:42:51.000
those three rhinos but uh you know that's neither here nor there you didn't see him on newsmax by the
00:42:57.160
way or oan no right frequently see you but uh where has he gone he's sort of in hiding look i think um
00:43:07.360
there was a conspiracy it wasn't just uh adam uh shift shift was that was named shift
00:43:15.420
and it was some of the democrats uh with help from some of the republicans and i think bill barr
00:43:24.480
john jim mattis john kelly uh john bolton there were a number of folks who crossed the line and and and one
00:43:32.100
of those is bill barr so i think we're going to come to find that that bill was in on whatever they
00:43:37.580
pulled and i and i think that's why when again when i and others got close to the truth we had to be
00:43:43.900
gotten rid of and it was and we're public i was a public figure so you can't really you can't just go
00:43:48.680
out and shoot me i mean i guess you could but it would it would draw more to kill trump twice
00:43:52.920
totally yeah so i think i think that's why and i think when pam gets in when cash gets in
00:43:59.880
i i'd like to believe they're going to do some very serious investigations i think a lot of people
00:44:04.660
like bill are going to be are going to be uh seeing some pretty bad things come their way so
00:44:10.260
one of the other folks who i saw over the last week was john solomon uh just the news a man who was
00:44:16.020
very instrumental with lou and the first administration about russiagate and declassifying
00:44:21.520
those documents trump in one of his last acts uh this was like the 11th hour tony i don't know if
00:44:28.160
you know the story but a lou and and john were in with president trump on the 11th hour on like
00:44:35.200
january 9th january 19th uh of 2020 or 2021 i guess it was uh on releasing the russiagate documents and i
00:44:44.880
saw john the other day and i said you know john whatever happened with that trump said to you that day
00:44:50.080
these documents are declassified mark meadow was supposed to turn them over to john solomon and
00:44:54.920
he never got there so i saw john the other day i said john what's going on are we finally getting
00:44:58.800
these documents and john said that because i told him i was like you've been very quiet lately he said
00:45:04.300
that's going to end coming this week so i've got john on the show on friday and i can't wait what's
00:45:08.940
going on but good i mean do you think we finally get to the bottom of russiagate do you think we
00:45:13.280
finally get to the bottom of uh you know all that stuff that went on in in 2020 yeah i think we do i
00:45:23.460
think we're going to see that there was a conspiracy by both sides democrats and republicans to go after
00:45:29.360
president trump uh i i believe and i i can't i can't give details yet because i have to get some other
00:45:35.180
folks to agree for me to release there were a several individuals who stood in a way of the final
00:45:42.400
coup against president trump there was a coup attempt in 2018 and uh i think there was some
00:45:48.840
very courageous people who were democrats by the way not republicans who stood in a way of that and
00:45:53.760
said basically i'm not i can't do this it's if you ever saw the movie seven days in may it's the
00:45:59.800
reverse it's like the reverse image of that so oh you've got me you said hair standing up i got you
00:46:06.500
just made the hair on my back of my neck stand up because now you've got me thinking and wondering i
00:46:10.580
mean it almost happened yeah this is absolutely insane uh tony you've been around longer than i
00:46:16.120
have not much longer just a few weeks a few months maybe a year longer than me on this planet i mean
00:46:21.040
did you ever imagine tony that that the world would come to this i mean that no you would see a
00:46:25.920
surprise i mean this literally lou is i i i mean i tell lou's wife all the time i mean he went
00:46:34.300
lou went peacefully at the right time with all this stuff that's going to come out now i think
00:46:38.920
uh would have sent lou uh spiraling because he witnessed it firsthand and you know you were
00:46:45.040
victims of it he was victims of it and we watched all right lawfare and lawsuits and all oh yeah stuff
00:46:50.920
i mean did you ever imagine that your life would come to this no no i wish luke could see some of
00:46:56.260
the see the some of the stuff and a good friend of mine jerry doyle who was radio talk show guy jerry and
00:47:02.080
i were close friends jerry passed prematurely and i wish these guys could see because they were all
00:47:07.080
fighting for the for the truth to get it out and i know lou in his uh very mysterious almost uh you
00:47:14.460
know karnak like ways had these magical almost mystical ways of knowing things i i uh i always
00:47:21.100
appreciated his ability to see through things and i think uh he understood what was coming and i i think
00:47:28.340
we're going to see a lot of things that he uh helped set in motion come true so it's i look forward to
00:47:34.140
that so you know tony he told me so many times when i'd ask him questions he wouldn't answer and
00:47:38.700
like i said he took secrets to the grave with him tony that were probably insane and there were so
00:47:43.660
many questions i'd ask him and he'd say you know what one day i'll tell you one day i'll let you
00:47:47.260
know one day i'll tell you and there were so many things that he didn't tell me that the you know that
00:47:52.100
we left on there so one day i'll get to see him again and he'll tell me before we wrap up tony i want
00:47:57.540
to get your take on a little bit of foreign policy ukraine uh i mean i've said as far back as july on
00:48:03.920
this show one day we're going to see selinsky get on a plane and disappear with duffel bags and we're
00:48:08.480
never going to see him again it turns out just last week the white house said maybe it's time for you to
00:48:12.400
go to france and uh disappear uh he now all of a sudden doesn't want to end this war and i think
00:48:18.620
it shows why the money is drying up and uh he's got to figure out who the hell he's going to go pull on
00:48:25.180
their pants like to get get another dollar and putin is discussing with xi jinping uh xi jinping
00:48:30.100
how how to end this thing and ceasefires which means he's probably sincere about ending it
00:48:35.180
and i mean if you look at it tony he has really no reason to end it uh if he wants to keep fighting
00:48:41.400
on he's eventually going to take all of ukraine if that's what he wants and that's yeah well he
00:48:45.300
doesn't want it he doesn't want a rump ukraine no so we've been lied to from the beginning no john
00:48:51.640
we've been lied to from the beginning it was always about those the don boss and and those
00:48:57.200
areas it was always about that this whole milly driven narrative that oh we helped ukraine push
00:49:04.720
uh russia russians out of kiev and protected it no the russians were trying to go after kiev to put
00:49:11.100
pressure on on on zelinski to negotiate they didn't want all of ukraine they wanted what they got and by
00:49:17.100
the way they're in the process of of of removing ukrainian forces from the don boss and the other
00:49:23.240
provinces they're they're doing you know it's like they're winning so to your point they don't have to
00:49:28.180
really stop because they're going to win it's that's that's a fait accompli what is worrying
00:49:34.820
zelinski is that the money did dry up we're no longer paying for civil servants to to have plays put on
00:49:40.780
at the at their national puppet theater or sending people to belgium to learn how to to use chocolate
00:49:47.380
as a sex toy i mean those are all the things we were funding to us aid and oh by the way us aid
00:49:52.860
was funding the cia efforts to create the maidan that the 2014 maidan revolution we did that that's
00:50:00.300
why they keep that's why trump is saying uh yeah they were provoked because uh victoria newland
00:50:07.060
and those folks over basically were part of the revolution to overthrow the duly elected
00:50:12.960
government and so now zelinski comes in zelinski's the bag man for all of the democrats he's been the
00:50:19.580
guy washing all the money it's like he was honest about yeah we they sent us 180 billion but we only
00:50:25.220
got like 80 it's like yeah it's all been washed and it's all ending it's all ending so you know it's
00:50:30.920
the only truth that man has ever told so what do you what do you think timeline wise do you think
00:50:35.380
this thing wraps up in the next few weeks months someone told me today some idiot democrat said
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you know we're going to start speaking russian here in america you better learn and i said
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we're probably going to speak spanish before we speak russian that's just the truth of the matter
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with how many illegals we have in this country we don't even speak english um do you think it was
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up to democrats yeah if it was up to democrats we'd all be speaking esperado just saying
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but you know it's crazy so do you think this thing gets wrapped up in the next
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weeks months uh either way you look at it donald trump's going to be called a putin a putin puppet
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i can't even say it uh because yeah you know when do you think we're there john they're re-establishing
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a framework similar to the budapest accords of 1994 but if you remember 94 there was a framework
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that created uh ukraine and and basically kind of created the other stands right you know tazikistan
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it was all done and there was an agreement that nato wouldn't move uh east well it did so it is
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what it is so i think first off they're trying to re-establish a an accord that both sides can live
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with that's why they're talking in riyadh that's why it's only russia and america remember you didn't
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have a nato leader sitting at the table when gorbachev and reagan ended the cold war right i mean
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they they came to an agreement i know it happened that berlin wall fell right in 89 under bush but the
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the framework that was created to end things was done without nato just saying so uh they're doing
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the same thing right now and then within the context of that ukraine i think ukraine's going to end
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within three weeks i think by i don't know the third week of march you're going to see a framework
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that would probably be implemented on the first of april i think one april is going to be the target date
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for formally ending the war you know it's you just mentioned nato and i haven't even got to nato
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you know tony the funny thing is is we may be out of nato sooner than ukraine ever gets into nato so
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well jd vance correctly identified the issue their values are no longer our values i mean that speech
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i my goodness it's like watching an episode of sprockets on saturday night live seeing that
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german leader crying on stage because he was talked to in a severe manner outlining the fact
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that the germans are essentially at the fourth reich and putting people in jail because of of speech
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so uh we do not share the european values we don't share the british values of going after people for
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memes we don't share the german values for going after people and and and putting them in jail and
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taking their phone because they they retweet stuff yeah so yeah vance jd vance said we're we're not in
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the same sheet and if we're not in the same sheet that means uh 70 percent of nato's budget goes away
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that's us right just saying so donald trump puts things so so eloquent and simple tony and i think
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he does it for the idiots the people who don't really understand how things work and he couldn't
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have put it any easier that we don't need nato we have a big giant body of water in between us and
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europe you guys need us we don't need you and uh you know it's very simple for the democrats who come
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at me on this whole thing with russia and ukraine i put it in stupid form for them i say how would you
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like it if your neighbor started putting machine guns on the back of their house and they face it at
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the back of your house what would you do about it and that's the i think the simplest way to put it
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for the dumb people tony where can people follow you where can they watch your show uh where can
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they get more of tony's show yeah so um in the mornings monday tuesdays and wednesdays i'm uh
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the uh semi-permanent uh uh uh host the semi-permanent temporary host of wake up patriots
00:54:27.140
ed henry's wake up patriots i i host that on rumble from nine to ten it's live with not you know you
00:54:33.360
people can chat with us it's a lot of fun uh we just had sol McCurguliano on today talking about
00:54:39.680
strategy from what's up with shipping we have uh celebrities come on uh susan olsen from uh
00:54:46.720
the brady bunch uh sheree curry from the runaways and we're gonna have we have a you know a variety
00:54:52.300
of folks both uh we had uh andy biggs on before we have a variety of folks come on with us anyway so
00:54:58.760
they can check that out mondays tuesdays and wednesdays otherwise go check us out at project
00:55:02.640
sentinel project sentinel.com and of course on twitter things are always interesting or x at
00:55:08.280
these days as they call the kids call it x so you know give them your twitter handle because i can
00:55:12.560
never find you on twitter myself he's spooky he's spooky it's got like an underscore after every letter
00:55:18.720
it is because yeah because i i couldn't uh i couldn't uh have the one i wanted so i got the one
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there there we go we guys can see t spooky folks t underscore it's an underscore after every letter t spooky
00:55:34.300
yeah uh go ahead and give tony a follow uh yeah i've given mark mitchell a shit about his uh hander
00:55:40.680
was like mark underscore r underscore mitchell and i've got mark to change his twitter his twitter
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new handle is uh honest holster i said that works a little bit better that's good well he is he's a
00:55:50.960
great guy i like mark a lot he's been on he's been on uh wake up patriots with us too yeah you got
00:55:57.120
mark to wake up at eight o'clock in the morning he's up till about three sometimes me and him are
00:56:00.680
texting till like three four o'clock so he must like you no i'm a night owl too i i'd love staying up
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late but i gotta get up early and do stuff then so great john thanks for having me it's great to
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have our conversation i appreciate the time tony come back soon please thank you
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thanks everybody for joining us today here on the great america show folks we hope to see you
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