The Great America Show - WHY ARE GOP LEADERS AFRAID TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THE 2020 ELECTION

00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs, and thanks for joining us for this episode of The Great America Show.

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00:01:19.620 The Biden presidency has been a disaster, it seems, from the moment Joe Biden was sworn in,

00:01:25.880 and he's building a strong early case to be considered the worst president in U.S. history.

00:01:31.580 Our guest today has some strong views on this administration and its many failings.

00:01:37.120 Our guest is Chris Farrell.

00:01:38.880 He's Director of Investigations and Research at Judicial Watch.

00:01:43.180 Chris is also a member of the Judicial Watch Board of Directors and a former U.S. Army intelligence officer.

00:01:49.620 And a great American.

00:01:51.640 Chris, welcome back to the Great America Show.

00:01:55.080 There is one headline after another, it seems, about what the Democrats are doing,

00:02:01.920 what their big donors are doing, everybody talking big money for the midterm elections.

00:02:08.000 And I hear nothing but crickets coming from the right, the conservatives, the GOP.

00:02:13.940 Your thoughts on the situation here with everything in the light of 2020?

00:02:21.460 Well, the left is predictably reliable, and, you know, they always double down,

00:02:28.000 even in the face of imminent failure.

00:02:29.900 And by every prediction is that they're going to suffer great losses in the midterm.

00:02:34.640 Although you can never count, because, you know, the Republicans love clutching defeat,

00:02:40.240 you know, out of the jaws of victory.

00:02:42.100 But it would appear that, you know, their predictable midterm reversal is going to occur.

00:02:48.200 But that never stops the left.

00:02:50.160 They are insistent and persistent.

00:02:52.440 And so you see things like George Soros, everyone's favorite philanthropist.

00:03:00.200 That's a good word for him.

00:03:01.820 And Clinton staffers running around trying to threaten Elon Musk and Twitter.

00:03:07.860 They think that free speech is very dangerous.

00:03:11.460 You see George Soros throwing or his entities, his operations,

00:03:16.180 throwing upwards of $750,000 into the elections in Wisconsin.

00:03:24.020 You know, that's another stunner, how via all these various front groups,

00:03:28.920 including things like, you know, the, I'm trying to think of an NAND,

00:03:33.080 there's an organization called ERIC, and I forget the exact acronym now,

00:03:39.080 but it's an election reporting group, purportedly.

00:03:43.620 Um, money's being thrown at elections, district attorneys are financed,

00:03:49.160 their campaigns are financed by Open Society Foundation,

00:03:51.940 and their various affiliates and subsidiaries.

00:03:56.440 Um, and then on top of all this, you see the introduction of another organization,

00:04:01.520 excuse me, called Governing for Impact.

00:04:05.360 Um, and their title or their, their tagline on their website says it all.

00:04:10.780 You know, words matter, Lou, you know that better than nine-tenths of the world.

00:04:15.020 Their tagline on their, on the website for Governing for Impact says,

00:04:19.180 quote, building progressive power at the state and federal level.

00:04:26.660 I mean, I, what, what founding document in the United States discusses building power?

00:04:34.740 You don't see that.

00:04:37.500 Yeah, especially a non-profit.

00:04:40.500 Correct.

00:04:41.320 And, but, but I mean, even philosophically, this tells you where they're coming from,

00:04:44.960 right?

00:04:45.660 Building progressive power.

00:04:47.540 That, that kind of language cannot be found in, in a single founding document,

00:04:53.840 whether it's the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, the Federalist Papers,

00:04:58.600 the Anti-Federalist Papers.

00:04:59.800 No one talks about building power at the state and federal level, but that is Marxist language.

00:05:07.840 That is, you know, Frankfurt School and Marx and Engels.

00:05:11.920 That is their kind of mentality.

00:05:14.080 And they, they brazenly advertise it on the front page of their website,

00:05:20.280 whichever one should go look at.

00:05:21.500 It's called GoverningForImpact.org.

00:05:23.660 And you can see all of their sort of agenda items and their policy papers they're written.

00:05:29.420 And the reason why people should look at that is because those policy papers are being turned into

00:05:35.100 Biden administration policies and regulations.

00:05:38.340 They are essentially the think tank for the Biden administration.

00:05:42.720 And the first time I've, and I think I've been trying to at least stay a pretty current on

00:05:49.880 the sort of dark groups, the groups, you know, staying well below the horizon and out of public

00:05:56.560 view, but this one suddenly bursts upon the scene through the reporting of none other than Fox

00:06:03.560 News.

00:06:04.120 That's the first place I saw any reference.

00:06:06.280 Uh, and the only place I've seen any reference, uh, to that group, uh, governing for impact.

00:06:12.500 It's shocking.

00:06:13.020 I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm pleasantly surprised because as you and I both know, there were,

00:06:17.600 there was a time, uh, when uttering the name Soros on air at Fox, uh, you know, was a lightning

00:06:25.540 bolt.

00:06:26.000 It was a verboten, you know, you could not possibly say, or even hint at that, or there was all sorts

00:06:33.080 of editorial pressure brought to bear.

00:06:35.020 It seems like they've done a one 80 and if they have great, because when there's public

00:06:40.800 documents and when there's, you know, uh, uh, websites and, and, and publicly filed records

00:06:48.020 and documents that are available online, why can't you talk about it?

00:06:52.460 Why, why is that suddenly?

00:06:54.100 And there was a day, as you well know, that was, you know, forbidden, but now they're talking

00:06:58.900 about it.

00:06:59.440 So hooray.

00:07:00.680 Yeah.

00:07:00.800 Well, as a matter of fact, uh, what Chris is referring to, uh, is, uh, his exclusion from

00:07:07.300 Fox, uh, as a result of mentioning the name George Soros on my show, uh, at that time.

00:07:15.020 Uh, and the, the response was, was quick.

00:07:19.160 And I have to say it was, uh, uh, uh, unpleasant, not only for Chris and for me, but it was an

00:07:25.740 unpleasant moment, I think for the network.

00:07:27.800 And I'm glad that they had moved beyond that, uh, at this point, if indeed they have, but

00:07:32.860 the fact that just to contextualize that, the question you had asked me was based upon

00:07:40.060 my return from Guatemala, where I had marched along the road with the caravaners heading 1.00

00:07:47.400 north out of Honduras through Guatemala.

00:07:50.020 I was fortunate, uh, that a colleague and friend of mine was the intelligence chief of

00:07:55.260 Guatemala and he had invited me down.

00:07:58.160 And, uh, I jokingly say that rather than being in a studio in New York or Washington, I went

00:08:04.040 out and committed an act of journalism.

00:08:05.900 I actually went on the ground with the caravaners, uh, I interviewed the president of Guatemala

00:08:12.160 for three hours.

00:08:13.080 I brought along a former colleague, Sarah Carter, who was obviously a contributor at

00:08:18.580 Fox news.

00:08:19.180 I brought along my own reporter, Irene Garcia.

00:08:21.860 Those two ladies are native Spanish linguists. 0.99

00:08:24.640 Uh, I am not, uh, and we spent five days down there.

00:08:28.860 I came back, went into the studio to talk with you.

00:08:32.000 And you would ask me what the Guatemalan president had said about who he thought was behind the

00:08:39.100 caravans.

00:08:40.180 And I truthfully reported that the president of Guatemala thought that it was Soros.

00:08:45.440 And he went on from there to describe why and how he thought it was Soros.

00:08:49.260 And that for, for reporting, for reporting on what the president of Guatemala and other

00:08:55.740 senior leaders told me what they thought about the caravans and the connections to Soros.

00:09:00.100 That was a, uh, a forbidden thing that made everybody at the Fox business, you know, jump

00:09:05.560 out of windows.

00:09:06.720 Well, it certainly did.

00:09:08.360 And I, and as I've expressed to you every moment since then, you know, my deepest regrets

00:09:14.040 that it occurred and, and, and the, uh, and the harm it did you, uh, and, uh, actually

00:09:21.420 I think the, the integrity of the network to do something like that.

00:09:25.420 Uh, but there it is.

00:09:28.240 And now we have a changed circumstance and clearly there were, they're talking about

00:09:32.320 George Soros now.

00:09:33.480 Yeah.

00:09:34.020 And I have any Pavlich, a contributor from town hall to Fox news talking with John

00:09:39.360 Roberts about it, as they say in the clear.

00:09:42.020 Yeah.

00:09:43.200 These things shift and, uh, this is a positive one.

00:09:46.880 Yeah.

00:09:47.040 And I've always sincerely appreciated all of your, uh, help and support through all

00:09:51.320 of this.

00:09:51.780 And likewise, I am pleased to see that, uh, Katie Pavlich and John Roberts have been able

00:09:57.060 to have a discussion about, uh, facts and, and documents and records and things that are

00:10:03.600 publicly available on the internet, uh, about, you know, who's doing what to who and where

00:10:07.820 the money's going and all those sorts of things.

00:10:09.600 Well, as you mentioned, George Soros putting $750,000 into the Wisconsin midterms.

00:10:16.200 And as far as I know, there is no Republican equivalent of George Soros, let alone, uh,

00:10:24.380 other donors that are putting in Mark Zuckerberg, for example, the money that he is throwing around

00:10:30.340 Silicon Valley, uh, wall street, the money that they are pouring into, uh, the rep, the

00:10:37.240 Republican, the Democrat, uh, races.

00:10:41.360 And I don't know of a single dime that's been spent and I'd love to be corrected on this

00:10:46.600 because I'd love to be wrong, but I don't know of a major effort whatsoever anywhere in

00:10:53.100 the Republican party or any campaign to reform the mail-in ballots, to reform the absentee

00:11:02.300 ballots, uh, the change, the election season back from, uh, from election season to election

00:11:09.760 day.

00:11:10.760 It's, it's preposterous how little we have heard from the Republicans and they're, and

00:11:16.820 they're taking a great deal for granted with all of this talk about wave election.

00:11:21.220 I believe there is the impetus for that, but I also know that a lot of things happened

00:11:27.220 in 2020 that there has been no, uh, there's been no reform, meaningful reform of it at

00:11:33.700 all.

00:11:34.860 Correct.

00:11:35.120 At the national level, uh, the so-called leadership McCarthy and McConnell have essentially accepted

00:11:42.460 and bought into the lie that this was the most secure election in American history, that

00:11:50.480 there were no irregularities, that there were no, uh, attempts at gamesmanship or manipulation.

00:11:56.200 That somehow Zuckerberg pouring hundreds of millions of dollars into Wisconsin, that there

00:12:03.560 was no effect.

00:12:04.540 There was, there was no outcome, no change of anything.

00:12:08.380 Um, I mean, just at face value, you have to say, if anybody poured any amount like that

00:12:14.400 hundreds of millions of dollars into one state, it would have to have an impact or guess what?

00:12:19.240 A very wealthy businessman wouldn't spend that many hundreds of millions of dollars for nothing.

00:12:24.860 I mean, that's the point, right?

00:12:26.720 He wants to get an outcome, then that's his investment.

00:12:30.380 So, um, the leadership, McConnell, McCarthy, and others have essentially accepted the big

00:12:36.800 lie.

00:12:38.060 And everyone is, if you raise questions, I mean, and I'm not talking about use of the F word,

00:12:44.920 right?

00:12:45.260 Fraud.

00:12:45.720 I, I'm always cautious about that because fraud has an actual real hard legal meaning.

00:12:53.080 And so I, I am always, I, what I want to talk about are election irregularities.

00:12:58.300 I want to talk about weird vote swings.

00:13:00.440 I want to talk about, uh, ballots that are counted or not counted ballots that suddenly

00:13:05.860 show up.

00:13:06.560 Those are all, those irregularities all require investigation and documentation in Wisconsin.

00:13:13.380 They've done it.

00:13:14.540 They've had a legislature chartered an investigation.

00:13:18.280 They had a former, a special counsel investigation.

00:13:21.440 Correct.

00:13:22.020 They had a Michael Gableman.

00:13:23.820 Exactly.

00:13:24.420 And that he's a former Wisconsin Supreme court justice. 0.99

00:13:28.540 He's not, you know, some moron. 0.98

00:13:31.200 This guy has got decades of experience and he's gone. 0.99

00:13:34.360 And I know you've reported this on your show.

00:13:36.260 He's gone and documented all the weirdness.

00:13:39.500 Okay.

00:13:40.540 Well then what do we do about it?

00:13:42.680 You don't see any national leadership from the right, whether it's Republican party guys

00:13:48.080 or frankly, anybody else stepping up and demanding that these things get fixed systematically.

00:13:55.500 Uh, and there's certainly no George Soros or open society foundation or, or, you know,

00:14:01.080 center right equivalent with the same kind of machinery and apparatus and money advocating

00:14:07.620 in the opposite direction.

00:14:09.000 There's a void.

00:14:10.240 There's nothing.

00:14:11.400 And, and for there to be nothing, uh, is unconscionable.

00:14:15.720 It just, I wish that we could be talking right now about some of the great successes and

00:14:21.760 we will, the great successes of the, of the Trump endorsements to talk about where the

00:14:27.720 Republican party is headed.

00:14:29.700 And I hope the Republican party is headed in exactly the same direction as, uh, Donald

00:14:35.380 J. 0.95

00:14:35.740 Trump, because the ignorance of the leaders of the Republican party is palpable.

00:14:42.360 Uh, particularly when you start with Mitch McConnell and you start with Kevin McCarthy,

00:14:46.880 uh, I, I know the president loves Kevin McCarthy.

00:14:51.040 I don't, I think he is one of the, I, I, I truly believe.

00:14:55.580 Yeah.

00:14:56.080 I don't understand why he does either.

00:14:58.060 I mean, I, I respect the president, but I don't get, I mean, there's a lot of evidence

00:15:01.780 pointing in the other direction.

00:15:03.440 Yeah.

00:15:03.940 But I also understand that when you're going into this election, you don't want to do anything.

00:15:07.860 If you're president Trump or, uh, anyone else, I guess for that matter, you don't want

00:15:12.960 to get involved in a, an, uh, an intramural, um, you want to hold the distraction real close

00:15:20.400 and, and, and take it up when you can indeed win.

00:15:26.420 What worries me is what you alluded to.

00:15:29.400 And that is without money, without reform, without understanding of what happened in 2020.

00:15:35.340 And there've been a couple of, uh, uh, very good documentaries, uh, created, but I, I really

00:15:40.840 liked the rigged documentary, uh, that David Bossy did on, on the election of 2020.

00:15:47.600 And he focuses on, uh, you know, real, uh, anomalies that contributed to, uh, his defeat.

00:15:55.280 And by the way, there are also no accidents in these campaigns.

00:15:59.020 These are not coincidences.

00:16:00.980 Uh, these are orchestrated, uh, events and we have to understand why and why the Republican

00:16:08.600 parties invested in not dealing with it.

00:16:11.160 They have bought into the democratic establishments.

00:16:15.140 Oh, you, it's already been, uh, the idea of the, uh, the election being rigged, you know,

00:16:21.540 that's already been debunked.

00:16:23.220 That's a falsehood.

00:16:24.720 You can see it in all of the corporatist, uh, news outlets.

00:16:28.160 They refer to it, not just as a, as a claim, but a debunked claim when it's absolutely not

00:16:33.980 true.

00:16:34.320 They haven't been debunked, the FBI didn't investigate a single election, not, and Homeland

00:16:40.660 Security certainly didn't, despite that being their charge.

00:16:44.620 Uh, they simply referred to it as a, just a terrific little election.

00:16:48.460 No problem.

00:16:49.200 No fuss.

00:16:49.820 No muss. 1.00

00:16:50.500 It's absurd.

00:16:51.900 Everyone watching television saw inexplicable events if they stayed with the election coverage

00:16:57.640 for any time at all.

00:16:59.680 Correct.

00:16:59.960 So, uh, so here we are, meanwhile, Arabella, dark money, uh, funding, all sorts of initiatives

00:17:09.380 that will benefit the democratic candidates at the local county and state level, as well

00:17:15.880 as the federal.

00:17:17.180 And it goes on and on.

00:17:18.960 It is dispiriting.

00:17:20.280 And no matter how much we talk about, you know, how the margin of victory, the landslides,

00:17:27.620 the wave elections, you know, we're always coming back to that's the Stalin quote, you

00:17:34.500 know, go ahead and vote as long as I get to decide who counts, you know, and that's where

00:17:39.420 we are.

00:17:40.060 That is where this country is such massive political corruption.

00:17:44.100 We can't trust the FBI, the justice department.

00:17:47.400 We can't trust Homeland security.

00:17:49.600 Look what they're doing with the border for crying out loud.

00:17:52.180 Yep.

00:17:52.760 We have a government that is weaponized politically against the American right, the American middle

00:18:01.140 independence and conservatives and Republicans don't stand a chance right now.

00:18:06.140 Given the array of, uh, donors, organizations, and individuals who've been put into action

00:18:14.680 already to rig that election.

00:18:16.880 And the so-called leadership, uh, McCarthy, McConnell, others, they are so timid.

00:18:23.980 They are so terribly terrified of being identified with any of those people, you know, the great

00:18:31.520 unwashed masses out there that the people that are actually the grassroots activists who are

00:18:38.160 fed up and frustrated and demanding accountability, they wish to distance themselves so far from

00:18:43.680 them, from people that are willing to go and, uh, you know, look, even at the, at the local

00:18:50.120 level, people that are willing to go in and file their own state open records law requests

00:18:55.160 to gain access to ballots or to voter rolls or to double check reporting and accounting.

00:19:02.800 Uh, you know, they are just terrified of even making statements that would be supportive of

00:19:11.060 people conducting audits and reviews for any kind of reform for, uh, Hey, like you said,

00:19:18.000 instead of having election season, why don't we stick to what the constitution says, which

00:19:22.240 is an election day period and the whole world knows when it is.

00:19:26.620 And you got lots of time.

00:19:28.000 If you're not available or you're traveling or you're deployed overseas or whatever it

00:19:32.180 is, you have all kinds of opportunities to file your ballot in a timely manner.

00:19:36.200 So that it arrives on election day and not turn it into how many votes do we need to win?

00:19:41.920 Okay.

00:19:42.260 Give me another day or two.

00:19:43.600 And we'll, you know, a couple of vans will back up to the warehouse and we'll get enough

00:19:47.820 votes because that's what we're currently experiencing.

00:19:50.580 Well, I don't want to draw an equation between political engagement and testosterone levels,

00:19:57.640 but you know, when you look at the history and the reporting that's being done on the

00:20:02.140 decline in testosterone in the United States, and by the way, much of the world, uh, it's

00:20:07.780 unexplained science is not dealing with it.

00:20:10.140 No one is doing research on it, but the effect, the effect here is we have a, we have a Republican

00:20:17.960 party, uh, you know, I think they ought to sort of just tech, uh, check the testosterone 1.00

00:20:23.020 levels between the Democrats and the Republicans, because there's something going on here that

00:20:28.900 doesn't make sense.

00:20:30.160 Why the Republicans are so quiescent.

00:20:32.960 Why are the Republicans so passive when they're being slapped in the teeth?

00:20:37.720 They've just watched a, an election, uh, tear down their candidate, Donald Trump, uh, in

00:20:45.400 full view of television cameras, attorneys, and everything else.

00:20:48.620 And they just sucked air through their teeth.

00:20:51.100 There's something wrong.

00:20:52.260 I'm kidding, of course, about the testosterone stuff, but I mean, it really does make you

00:20:56.880 think what, why don't the Republicans even want to understand what happened?

00:21:02.260 You know, in the 2012, Chris, the Republicans famously did that, uh, post-action report,

00:21:10.580 uh, the post-mortem called autopsy appropriately enough for why they, they were defeated.

00:21:17.900 We haven't had a similar thing happen after the most historic defeat for the Republican

00:21:23.700 party, I believe in history.

00:21:26.540 Yeah.

00:21:27.180 And here's the, here's the real, this is, will inflame and infuriate you more.

00:21:33.760 We're not actually asking anybody to do anything, right?

00:21:37.820 All we're saying is, will you ask questions?

00:21:41.580 Will you conduct an inquiry?

00:21:43.660 Will you document, you know, after the fact, historically go and arrive at, uh, conclusions

00:21:52.100 and facts as to what happened.

00:21:54.700 Step two is to figure out how to fix it, but they're afraid to even ask the question to

00:22:00.760 find out what the hell's going on in order to do a, an assessment of, okay, now that we

00:22:05.820 know how screwed up it is, how do we actually go forward now and put into place measures

00:22:10.620 to correct it?

00:22:11.680 The, the Republican leadership, and in fact, not even just the, the party operatives I'm

00:22:16.540 talking about, I'm talking about vast numbers of people on the generic center, right.

00:22:21.180 They are terrified of even being seen to be in the same room as people who wish to ask

00:22:26.760 questions about the election, because that means you don't believe that means you question

00:22:32.040 and doubt.

00:22:32.900 How could you possibly, what's you mean?

00:22:35.940 You don't think that we have the greatest thing since sliced bread.

00:22:39.460 How could you even begin to question this?

00:22:41.860 We've been assured that all is well.

00:22:43.960 Well, you know, and that's, they're afraid of that.

00:22:47.440 Think back to 1960 and that election, John F. Kennedy and Richard M. Nixon, Nixon lost

00:22:55.860 the race by a very narrow margin.

00:22:58.380 I think it was around a hundred thousand votes and, and, and look to cook County for that margin.

00:23:05.720 Also West Virginia.

00:23:07.280 And he chose not to pursue a recount, even though it would have been perfectly rational and within

00:23:14.540 his, his prerogatives, because quote unquote, he did not want to cast doubts on the legitimacy

00:23:21.860 of election.

00:23:22.960 Now think about the, that, and that view, by the way, became the basis for every politician

00:23:29.000 who wanted to virtue signal after that.

00:23:31.080 I think that there was a, I think there was a, a little irregularity here between the unions

00:23:40.740 and the votes that were turned out and bought in 1960.

00:23:45.020 But Richard Nixon says, even though it's crooked rigged, uh, I'm not going to do anything because

00:23:51.380 that'll cast illegitimacy on an election that he said and believed to be illegitimate, illegal,

00:23:58.800 and, uh, and rigged.

00:24:02.160 Uh, so that became the mindset for the establishment for decades to follow right up to 2020.

00:24:09.680 Yeah.

00:24:10.320 And there's no reason for it.

00:24:12.060 I mean, uh, our democracy is at its best when there's a healthy and vigorous exchange of opposing

00:24:19.760 points of view, uh, not, uh, sort of whimpering compliance.

00:24:24.560 And, uh, you know, the, the problem that we face is that, uh, that requires, uh, I'll go

00:24:31.480 back to your, your testosterone level check, uh, reference.

00:24:35.400 That's a good, good way to describe it, but there's gotta be, I mean, you have to actually

00:24:39.300 believe in something.

00:24:40.240 Can you imagine that you have to actually believe in the American ideal and in what you stand

00:24:46.980 for and in what you're willing to advocate.

00:24:49.840 And you have to have courage of your convictions and, uh, those are rare things.

00:24:56.380 Very, very rare to actually stand up and say, you know what?

00:24:59.160 No, I'm calling, uh, I'm calling this what it is.

00:25:02.960 You may not like it.

00:25:03.940 We may get very upset for the next 20 minutes as we go back and forth arguing, but I'm not

00:25:08.480 just going to roll over and play dead.

00:25:09.980 And you have to prove something to me. 0.99

00:25:11.800 The American people are not mushrooms where you throw, you know, throw crap over them and, 0.95

00:25:16.580 uh, keep them in the dark. 0.99

00:25:18.480 Correct. 0.96

00:25:19.220 This is ridiculous. 0.88

00:25:20.580 This is, and I, I hate this expression that is taken on currency now, uh, in the, at least 0.96

00:25:28.660 the, the chattering class suddenly we're talking, I'm hearing people talk about, well, you know,

00:25:32.820 only 10% of Americans want to be free.

00:25:35.360 The rest want to be taken care of.

00:25:37.820 And I'm, I'm thinking what elite, a son of a gun, you know, and I'm talking about Republicans

00:25:43.660 saying that, how can they get to the point where the GOP, the party of Trump, a populist

00:25:51.720 nationalist figure of historic and historical importance has this as, uh, in his wake, uh,

00:26:02.500 elitism.

00:26:03.260 That's that granular and that cynical.

00:26:05.580 Well, I think it's horrible.

00:26:07.360 Yeah.

00:26:08.020 I mean, in my opinion, the, the best president since Washington, um, and, and, and the, the

00:26:15.880 reason why you see this, this is all kind of like snap back, uh, you know, uh, counter

00:26:24.020 revolutionary, uh, uh, activity that you see.

00:26:29.380 And again, it lines up beautifully with all the, the worst tenants of sort of the Bolshevik 0.97

00:26:35.460 left we have in, in, uh, in America, the people that run the democratic party, uh, you, what

00:26:42.620 you see is, you know, count their, uh, their reactionary.

00:26:47.220 Okay.

00:26:47.480 So you're seeing a reactionary response to somebody who actually kicked the door down and turned

00:26:53.560 on the lights and raised the shades and said, Hey, this is America.

00:26:57.600 This is where we're living.

00:26:58.480 We need sunlight and fresh air.

00:27:00.540 We need to, uh, you know, we need to return to our founding principles and, and, and people

00:27:06.960 are just flipping out and going in the opposite direction as hard and fast as they can.

00:27:11.920 I want to give credit to two people if I can, because, uh, uh, in, in the case of JD Vance,

00:27:18.880 who just won the Republican primary in Ohio, I was neutral on him, uh, neutral to Leary,

00:27:25.160 I would say, and, uh, he went on Tucker Carlson show right after he had won.

00:27:32.600 Uh, and I mean, he went after the Republican establishment and called them out for their

00:27:39.300 corruption, uh, their, uh, their absolute perfidy.

00:27:43.600 Uh, and, and I, I haven't heard that from a single other candidate running, but it was

00:27:50.940 his acknowledgement truthfully and vigorously that he has to beat all the Democrats in the

00:27:57.220 general election.

00:27:57.860 But he also has to be very careful watching and, and, uh, for stalling the Republican establishment

00:28:07.220 because it is, it is a corrupt leadership.

00:28:10.840 And we have to understand that all of us who consider ourselves Republicans, uh, and who

00:28:17.040 support Donald Trump, it, there's no sense to, and by the way, I'm not going to take anybody's

00:28:22.200 word for anything.

00:28:23.580 Somebody can tell me they really like Mitch McConnell and they really like Kevin McCarthy.

00:28:28.460 That's great.

00:28:29.680 It's America, but I can tell you neither one of them has ever done a thing that convinces me

00:28:35.060 that they're prepared to, to be America first, uh, uh, leaders and to be committed to this

00:28:43.180 country and its greatness and its people.

00:28:46.860 I agree with you.

00:28:47.880 And, uh, the, uh, I'm curious to, to give the, to learn your second shout out.

00:28:53.080 The first one's JD Vance for, for kind of, uh, and I, and I didn't know Frank, other than

00:28:58.340 the book he wrote, Hillbilly Elegy, I didn't, I was not, uh, not, uh, deeply immersed in

00:29:04.220 the, uh, the mechanics of Ohio Republican politics, as far as who's who and what's what

00:29:10.160 I knew that president Trump had endorsed him.

00:29:12.340 I knew that some people were pulling their hair out of their heads over that others were

00:29:15.780 sort of indifferent, but, uh, I I'm reassured by what you said that, you know, uh, with regard

00:29:21.540 to him explaining the, uh, the struggle with the sort of, uh, the entrenched Republican

00:29:27.380 establishment, that's actually a good sign.

00:29:29.600 He was an anti-Trumper and that was the, and I, I was very dismissive of it.

00:29:34.220 Uh, because he was a vigorous anti-Trumper to say the least, uh, but everyone adapts,

00:29:40.360 everyone changes.

00:29:41.220 Uh, sometimes it's sincere and sometimes it isn't, it appears to be sincere and intellectually,

00:29:46.560 uh, you know, uh, he, he's saying the right things.

00:29:50.200 Uh, he is reacting, uh, is I would want, and maybe that's what a good politician does.

00:29:55.800 I'm not going to credit him yet with sincerity, uh, but I do credit him, uh, with the, the right

00:30:03.320 statement in the right direction as a public leader.

00:30:05.700 And I think I've got, suddenly I've got very high hopes for him.

00:30:08.780 Now, the other person I want to credit is Elon Musk, who is, you know, as soon as we saw

00:30:14.620 these six, uh, nonprofits, uh, NGOs, and, uh, you know, these scurrilous advocacy groups

00:30:22.180 signing a letter to attack, to attack the world's richest man.

00:30:28.660 Now think about that.

00:30:30.440 And, and what did they want to complain about?

00:30:33.160 The fact of the matter is they don't want anyone advertising on Twitter and they identify

00:30:39.300 the weakness of Twitter immediately and the dependency that could grow up there.

00:30:44.480 And, and Elon Musk point blank said, sunshine is a great disinfectant.

00:30:49.760 Let's get some transparency about who these groups are, what they're doing.

00:30:53.820 And, and, and, and he, again, committed to unfettered free speech, uh, and he's right.

00:31:01.680 And he's the only businessman I know who's standing up and saying, we must stop this.

00:31:07.800 We must end it now.

00:31:09.620 And he's, and he put $44 billion, not all of his money, but a lot of it.

00:31:15.020 And immediately he has some despair, but the point is he's investing and putting himself

00:31:20.800 at risk for the right reasons and for the right people.

00:31:24.280 That is the American middle-class, the American working man and woman and their families, the

00:31:30.040 Americans who make this country work because that's where the American dream resides.

00:31:34.800 I'm just so proud of him, uh, because he could be doing lots of things, but taking on the

00:31:40.860 establishments of both parties and demanding free speech, uh, for all is, uh, my, uh, that's

00:31:48.360 the weight of my heart.

00:31:49.020 I'll tell you, well, all you got to do is look at anyone that advocates against free

00:31:54.040 speech, and then you see their really pained, excruciating explanations of how they want

00:32:00.840 to cultivate an ecosystem of, you know, awareness.

00:32:05.680 And, uh, it's all this mush mouth, double talk, phony compassion for the, uh, you know, disenfranchised,

00:32:16.320 uh, underserved internet community people.

00:32:20.820 I don't even know what the heck they're talking about.

00:32:22.620 I mean, anybody with a cell phone can post or, or say anything they, they please.

00:32:27.520 So the notion that somehow there's this elitist access to the internet is just preposterous. 1.00

00:32:33.740 And the idea that the American public is so stupid is so uncultured, so idiotic that they're 1.00

00:32:41.160 not able to read something and discern for themselves, whether it's real or fake, or whether 1.00

00:32:46.320 they like it or they don't, or they support it or they believe in it or they buy it or

00:32:50.060 they don't.

00:32:50.540 I mean, this is the elite of the elite of the elite warning us that again, once again,

00:32:56.160 the great unwashed masses, all of those.

00:32:58.460 Are you talking about Barack Obama?

00:33:00.020 Yeah, exactly.

00:33:00.880 Are you talking?

00:33:01.580 Exactly.

00:33:02.140 I mean, well, let's say, you know, let's be, let's use this free speech.

00:33:05.700 The man was scurrilous.

00:33:07.700 His statements about freedom of speech and the necessity to control thought and words are 0.99

00:33:14.040 absolutely disgusting.

00:33:16.380 And anyone who believes in this country should be absolutely sickened at what he said and 0.97

00:33:23.720 the way in which he said it.

00:33:25.360 And within a week, the next thing, Joe Biden representing the third term of Barack Obama

00:33:31.900 comes out to create the ministry of truth, the disinformation governance board.

00:33:41.040 You couldn't, how, how Orwellian do you want to be?

00:33:45.240 Because that's just about at least the penultimate, if not the ultimate in that language, the opposite

00:33:51.420 of what it is.

00:33:52.600 And I love this too, Chris.

00:33:54.540 Yeah.

00:33:54.720 He said it was disinformation governance board purpose to stop misinformation.

00:33:59.440 So why didn't they call it the misinformation?

00:34:01.720 You know, and it's just, these are geniuses.

00:34:04.480 They are abject geniuses.

00:34:06.860 And I encourage every listener to go look up Nina Jankiewicz's Twitter feed and all the

00:34:14.340 various postings of her, her public behavior and conduct and her statements and educate

00:34:21.440 yourself on what this woman stands for and what she has posted and things she said and

00:34:27.480 done.

00:34:27.820 And, you know, inform your intellect about who this person is, who's been put in charge.

00:34:34.640 And then once you've done that, contemplate what sort of people would select her to be

00:34:41.340 in charge of this governance board.

00:34:43.960 Marxist leftist of the, of the Biden administration and the cabal that pulls the strings of this

00:34:51.040 puppet president, but Jankiewicz, she is, first of all, she's a, she's quite a deal.

00:34:59.260 You're being very generous.

00:35:01.860 I'm sorry.

00:35:03.020 I said, you're being very generous.

00:35:04.820 I am.

00:35:05.380 I really am.

00:35:06.680 But she peddled the laptop, the Hunter Biden laptop as Russian disinformation.

00:35:12.980 All right.

00:35:14.080 I mean, that's sort of her openers.

00:35:15.400 She peddled the steel dossier is real and not, you know, not a, a, a caricature emanating

00:35:24.520 and originating in the Hillary Clinton campaign and the democratic national committee.

00:35:30.280 She is, uh, she's a, uh, she's a Mary Poppins of the Marxist left.

00:35:36.420 Uh, it's, it's sad. 1.00

00:35:38.840 It's pathetic. 0.95

00:35:39.300 And by the way, she's on record as having saying there should never be such a board as 0.98

00:35:43.760 the one that, uh, uh, apparently has been created by a president with what authority

00:35:49.260 I can't imagine.

00:35:50.280 I've asked you a number of people, no one knows what authority, and I'm talking about

00:35:54.220 lawyers, no one knows what authority he's, uh, using, uh, to base the creation of this

00:36:01.180 absurdity and this obscenity called the disinformation governance board.

00:36:07.220 Well, you can rest assured that we have, uh, sent a barrage of, uh, open records requests

00:36:13.900 to our illustrious department of Homeland security, seeking all the records and documents that form

00:36:19.920 the foundation for the decision to create that thing.

00:36:22.880 And, uh, we will have a trove of emails and policy papers and all sorts of interesting and

00:36:29.300 amusing things to read about her, about Mayorkas, about who was pushing this.

00:36:34.380 Because evidently, uh, uh, I think it was daily mail, uh, you have to go to a foreign 1.00

00:36:40.340 paper to learn anything about the United States.

00:36:42.120 By the way, I want to say this about the daily mail.

00:36:43.900 It's my day for shout outs.

00:36:45.660 That news organization is embarrassing the American news media, American corporate media.

00:36:55.220 They are running laps around, uh, these, uh, these corporatists, uh, they need to get a 0.69

00:37:04.200 little change in focus and, and perhaps follow the energy and the, uh, integrity of the, of the

00:37:10.440 daily mail there.

00:37:11.800 The daily mail reporters actually, uh, answer all the basic interrogatives in every story.

00:37:17.740 If you can imagine that who, what, run, where, how, and why.

00:37:20.140 And they often have photos and, and, uh, PDFs of records and documents in their stories.

00:37:26.360 Imagine that, uh, you know, I agree with you.

00:37:30.160 Uh, you have to read a foreign paper to find out what's going on in the United States.

00:37:33.940 But, uh, you know, the, the, the amount of documentation behind what was done to create

00:37:40.460 this thing and the incentives and the suggestions and who was kind of pushing from the outside,

00:37:45.360 we will get, uh, all the records and documents about that.

00:37:49.100 And if they don't give them to us, we'll sue them and we'll compel them by court order to

00:37:52.840 produce them.

00:37:53.340 So the, the gruesome little details will come out and judicial watch does an amazing job.

00:38:00.680 And we, we both compliment you and thank you, but let's be straightforward about this.

00:38:06.680 It won't be soon and it won't be in time for the midterms.

00:38:11.600 And hopefully it will be in time for 2024.

00:38:15.180 You are correct.

00:38:15.920 It's wheels grind slowly.

00:38:17.900 Well, we shouldn't tolerate a judiciary, uh, uh, or a government that operates like it's

00:38:23.780 1830 instead of, uh, 2022 it's ignorance.

00:38:28.440 I mean, to think about what the Supreme court is doing, they take a hundred cases, uh, chew

00:38:33.380 on it for a while, go out and have a Chardonnay come back.

00:38:37.360 Uh, I, I mean, really this is the way in which the Supreme court is supposed to work.

00:38:42.400 This is justice streaking through the great, the great American Republic.

00:38:47.020 Like, I don't think so.

00:38:48.520 Yeah.

00:38:48.740 Speaking of the Supreme, I'm sorry, go ahead.

00:38:50.420 Yeah, no, I was going to say a lot of people don't realize that, you know, there's probably

00:38:53.180 10,000, uh, appeals, the writs of certiorari, uh, sent to the Supreme court every year and

00:39:00.480 they cherry pick the anywhere between 60 and 80 normally cases that they decide that they're

00:39:06.320 going to review.

00:39:07.360 Most Americans don't realize that they think that it's some process where, Hey, you'll hear

00:39:11.980 people say ignorantly, I'm taking this to the Supreme court.

00:39:15.120 Okay, great.

00:39:15.860 That's not how it works.

00:39:17.320 They get about 10,000 applications every year and the justices themselves decide which cases

00:39:23.640 they're going to hear or not.

00:39:24.740 And the overwhelming majority, you know, go right in the garbage pail.

00:39:30.080 They're never even reviewed.

00:39:31.580 Yeah.

00:39:31.860 And I'm still so disgusted by chief justice, John Roberts.

00:39:35.500 It's hard for me to contain myself because he's the one who said there are no Obama judges.

00:39:40.800 There are no Bush judges.

00:39:42.660 What a lie.

00:39:43.180 You know, it was a lie on its face and a lie that just reduced him to a caricature, uh,

00:39:51.680 a, and, and by the way, a partisan caricature, uh, in what he was saying, the Supreme court

00:39:58.020 leak, Chris, uh, I think it's a work of the left.

00:40:01.180 I don't know which, uh, I don't know which justice, but Adam Schiff saying that finding

00:40:07.420 the leaker isn't important gives me a clue.

00:40:09.980 How about you?

00:40:15.500 Exactly.

00:40:16.140 I mean, this is my, my guess is we're going to find out that it's a clerk from, I don't

00:40:21.620 know, uh, Sotomayor's or briars or it's going to be so the circle of knowledge ability, the

00:40:28.920 circle of access of people who would have had the ability to get their hands on that

00:40:33.340 draft is very, very small.

00:40:35.900 So my guess is, uh, the marshal of the Supreme court, who I think is a retired army colonel.

00:40:41.900 I mean, they should have been able to knock this out in about 20 minutes, frankly, but

00:40:45.620 nonetheless, they'll go and do their, their interviews.

00:40:49.800 I also would imagine that there's a bunch of other Supreme court clerks and they're all

00:40:54.340 attorneys, right.

00:40:55.160 Working for the justices.

00:40:56.720 A lot of them, they don't think it's very funny and they want to see this person, you

00:41:01.100 know, get nailed for it.

00:41:02.360 So I expect that we're going to find out in pretty quick order who did it.

00:41:06.780 Well, I would just suggest a couple of things about that, Chris.

00:41:10.060 One is, I don't think it would be a right-wing clerk because the right-wing clerk would know

00:41:14.980 that he or she was done if they were found out.

00:41:18.060 Yep.

00:41:19.260 Whereas if you're a liberal clerk, uh, you will be covered by the party.

00:41:23.540 Perhaps, uh, you know, you spend two years on all expenses, paid vacations by, by leaking

00:41:30.380 this and ginning up the base, uh, for the, the, the Marxist left party.

00:41:35.000 Uh, it's, uh, I, I think frankly, Roberts is not out of contention either here because

00:41:42.200 you're, you recall back when in Obamacare, there was a leak, there was a leak that he was

00:41:49.020 going to vote conservative and there was such public outrage.

00:41:52.360 And we were seeing, by the way, I think just a, an echo of that precise moment.

00:41:57.820 And it's apparently convinced him to change his vote.

00:42:01.560 And that's why he, that backlash public backlash.

00:42:05.320 Yep.

00:42:05.760 And that's the reason he went with the liberals.

00:42:08.380 Yeah.

00:42:08.960 And, and by the way, there's another part of that, that people miss sometimes they never

00:42:15.020 found the leaker of that story.

00:42:18.300 Never.

00:42:18.780 But if you, if you don't look for them, you can't find them.

00:42:22.040 That's part of the trick, right?

00:42:24.160 Well, I, I'm, I'm assured that they were looking hard.

00:42:29.600 Right.

00:42:30.120 So whoever, whoever did this one, as you, as you pointed out, they, uh, you know, from

00:42:35.500 the left, they will be awarded their, you know, order of Lennon.

00:42:38.580 And then they will go on and, uh, and head up some, uh, NGO for a few years and then circle

00:42:44.140 back in and, you know, two, three, four administrations down the road, there'll be the

00:42:48.600 attorney general or running for president.

00:42:50.980 Uh, sometimes that works out that way.

00:42:53.580 Offenses are being put up all around the Supreme court.

00:42:56.240 Uh, left-wing groups are calling not, you know, not for calm and reason they're calling

00:43:01.960 for protests and demonstrations.

00:43:03.760 We see Antifa already in two cities, Portland and Los Angeles reacting violently.

00:43:10.280 And by the way, of course, no arrests or prosecutions.

00:43:13.320 We don't, it sounds like an insurrection to me.

00:43:15.500 I don't know.

00:43:15.900 It is an insurrection.

00:43:17.240 I called it that on Twitter, uh, because I just think that left, that's the language

00:43:23.920 they understand.

00:43:24.780 So insurrection it is, but this is a full blown effort now to intimidate five justices

00:43:30.940 and to change their vote.

00:43:32.760 And there's no response.

00:43:34.760 I haven't heard a single response from the leadership of the Republican party.

00:43:38.880 I haven't heard a single business leader in this country.

00:43:41.580 You remember when business leaders, CEOs, chairman of the board actually stood up and said something

00:43:47.040 about the national interest and begged for morality in the public square and conducted

00:43:53.300 their businesses in that fashion.

00:43:55.340 We don't have leaders in business.

00:43:58.440 We don't have leaders in business.

00:44:00.840 We have accomplices to the Marxist left and they fund them.

00:44:06.180 They incorporate them into their HR departments or otherwise known as their political

00:44:11.060 organizations within the corporation, uh, and do everything they can, uh, to roll forward

00:44:17.880 with an agenda that is, that is alien to America and anti-American as it can be.

00:44:25.000 Yeah.

00:44:25.620 Well, there was a time when economic nationalism expressed itself, you know, as America first

00:44:30.020 also, when it came to our industry manufacturing base, but you know, all those sort of strengths

00:44:36.700 of, uh, of, of days gone by and, uh, American CEOs and business owners were unapologetically

00:44:44.080 pro-American now, you know, they're all worried about, uh, the, the, the next protest or the

00:44:50.020 next group of 26 phony leftist groups that are going to, you know, attack them, uh, via

00:44:55.860 Twitter or some other social media platform and, you know, call for boycotts and all the rest

00:45:00.600 of it.

00:45:01.420 Yeah.

00:45:01.980 And we, and we had Billy Graham, we've got Franklin Graham, who's, who is, uh, offering

00:45:07.100 his voice up important moments.

00:45:09.980 We have the Pope who I thought did the right thing.

00:45:12.960 He was going to go talk to Moscow, to Vladimir Putin and Moscow, but, but Ukraine.

00:45:18.740 But then just yesterday, he decided to announce that perhaps the reason Putin had invaded Ukraine

00:45:27.560 and I'm, I'm, I'm, uh, reducing this to its essence, uh, maybe it was, uh, he used the expression

00:45:34.880 barking at the border of Russia.

00:45:38.180 And so the Pope is probably out as a, uh, honest broker and a leader for peace.

00:45:45.340 Uh, it was a stunning moment, assuming he was, uh, translated correctly.

00:45:52.760 That's a, that's a big assumption.

00:45:54.520 We should, somebody should go find Benedict and see what he has to say.

00:45:57.080 Well, there's something for everybody, as they say, I appreciate it, Chris.

00:46:03.920 Uh, as always, we give our guests the last word and Chris, thank you for being here and

00:46:10.040 take it away.

00:46:11.900 Thank you so much, Lou.

00:46:13.140 Um, I just want to reassure all of your listeners that judicial watch will continue to do what

00:46:17.660 it's been doing for the last 27 years.

00:46:20.400 I've been there for 23 of the last, uh, 27.

00:46:23.760 And, uh, we don't forget, we don't quit.

00:46:25.660 We don't go away.

00:46:26.660 Uh, we plug away.

00:46:28.320 We're still getting answers to FOIA open records requests that are 16 and 17 years old.

00:46:34.080 So, uh, we will continue to fight, to bring the truth, documentary evidence to the American

00:46:39.440 public.

00:46:39.860 And we always appreciate the opportunity, whether it's myself or my colleague, Tom Fitton, to

00:46:44.940 come on your show and talk about our work and talk about the, the state of affairs in

00:46:49.180 America, 2022.

00:46:51.220 And, uh, my hats off to you, Lou.

00:46:52.980 And, uh, my, my great personal thanks and respect to you always.

00:46:57.260 And same back at you.

00:46:58.440 I appreciate it, Chris.

00:46:59.440 Chris Farrell.

00:47:00.000 He's the director of research and investigations for judicial watch, uh, and God bless you for

00:47:07.620 all you and judicial watch you're doing.

00:47:09.420 Chris, uh, look forward to our next conversation.

00:47:12.460 Chris Farrell.

00:47:13.140 Thanks very much, Lou.

00:47:14.720 Thanks everybody for being with us today.

00:47:16.840 I hope you'll join us tomorrow when our guest will be one of the January 6th defendants who

00:47:22.120 had to stand alone against the power of the authoritarian left against a politically corrupt

00:47:27.900 DC establishment and the federal government.

00:47:31.640 Brandon Strzok has spent the past year trying to rebuild his life, a life upended by the Capitol

00:47:38.120 and DC police and federal prosecutors who tried to make an example of him because he was a

00:47:44.480 Trump supporter and that was his only crime.

00:47:48.640 No American should miss his story.

00:47:51.740 Please be with us tomorrow, right here on the great America show till then.

00:47:56.380 God bless you and God bless America.

The Great America Show - May 11, 2022

WHY ARE GOP LEADERS AFRAID TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THE 2020 ELECTION

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