WHY ARE GOP LEADERS AFRAID TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THE 2020 ELECTION
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Chris Farrell of Judicial Watch joins Lou Dobbs on the Great America Show to discuss the Biden administration, its failures, and the deep-rooted problems it s creating. Chris is also a member of the Judicial Watch Board of Directors and a former U.S. Army intelligence officer.
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Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs, and thanks for joining us for this episode of The Great America Show.
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And as the Russians continue to bombard and blast the Ukrainians seemingly through 24 hours of each and every day,
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the Ukrainians are defending their country with heroic strength and defying the much larger, more powerful Russian invaders.
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First Lady Jill Biden made a surprise visit to Western Ukraine.
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There she met with the country's First Lady, Olena Zelensky.
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Mrs. Biden spent about two hours in Ukraine, telling Mrs. Zelensky that she wanted to be there for Mother's Day to show solidarity with the people of Ukraine.
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And the war goes on, this senseless war that Vladimir Putin obviously thought would never devolve to the quagmire it's become for his military.
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Putin has no obvious exit from this titanic military debacle, and he will soon be desperate to limit the massive global damage
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to his standing, his reputation, and his job as leader of Russia itself.
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And meanwhile, the Biden administration hasn't yet sent the First Lady to our southern border with Mexico,
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where a massive invasion has been underway since President Biden took office almost 16 months ago.
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The Biden presidency has been a disaster, it seems, from the moment Joe Biden was sworn in,
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and he's building a strong early case to be considered the worst president in U.S. history.
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Our guest today has some strong views on this administration and its many failings.
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He's Director of Investigations and Research at Judicial Watch.
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Chris is also a member of the Judicial Watch Board of Directors and a former U.S. Army intelligence officer.
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There is one headline after another, it seems, about what the Democrats are doing,
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what their big donors are doing, everybody talking big money for the midterm elections.
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And I hear nothing but crickets coming from the right, the conservatives, the GOP.
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Your thoughts on the situation here with everything in the light of 2020?
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Well, the left is predictably reliable, and, you know, they always double down,
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And by every prediction is that they're going to suffer great losses in the midterm.
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Although you can never count, because, you know, the Republicans love clutching defeat,
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But it would appear that, you know, their predictable midterm reversal is going to occur.
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And so you see things like George Soros, everyone's favorite philanthropist.
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And Clinton staffers running around trying to threaten Elon Musk and Twitter.
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You see George Soros throwing or his entities, his operations,
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throwing upwards of $750,000 into the elections in Wisconsin.
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You know, that's another stunner, how via all these various front groups,
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including things like, you know, the, I'm trying to think of an NAND,
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there's an organization called ERIC, and I forget the exact acronym now,
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but it's an election reporting group, purportedly.
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Um, money's being thrown at elections, district attorneys are financed,
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their campaigns are financed by Open Society Foundation,
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Um, and then on top of all this, you see the introduction of another organization,
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Um, and their title or their, their tagline on their website says it all.
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You know, words matter, Lou, you know that better than nine-tenths of the world.
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Their tagline on their, on the website for Governing for Impact says,
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quote, building progressive power at the state and federal level.
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I mean, I, what, what founding document in the United States discusses building power?
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And, but, but I mean, even philosophically, this tells you where they're coming from,
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That, that kind of language cannot be found in, in a single founding document,
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whether it's the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, the Federalist Papers,
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No one talks about building power at the state and federal level, but that is Marxist language.
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That is, you know, Frankfurt School and Marx and Engels.
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And they, they brazenly advertise it on the front page of their website,
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And you can see all of their sort of agenda items and their policy papers they're written.
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And the reason why people should look at that is because those policy papers are being turned into
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They are essentially the think tank for the Biden administration.
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And the first time I've, and I think I've been trying to at least stay a pretty current on
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the sort of dark groups, the groups, you know, staying well below the horizon and out of public
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view, but this one suddenly bursts upon the scene through the reporting of none other than Fox
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Uh, and the only place I've seen any reference, uh, to that group, uh, governing for impact.
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I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm pleasantly surprised because as you and I both know, there were,
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there was a time, uh, when uttering the name Soros on air at Fox, uh, you know, was a lightning
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It was a verboten, you know, you could not possibly say, or even hint at that, or there was all sorts
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It seems like they've done a one 80 and if they have great, because when there's public
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documents and when there's, you know, uh, uh, websites and, and, and publicly filed records
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and documents that are available online, why can't you talk about it?
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And there was a day, as you well know, that was, you know, forbidden, but now they're talking
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Well, as a matter of fact, uh, what Chris is referring to, uh, is, uh, his exclusion from
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Fox, uh, as a result of mentioning the name George Soros on my show, uh, at that time.
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And I have to say it was, uh, uh, uh, unpleasant, not only for Chris and for me, but it was an
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And I'm glad that they had moved beyond that, uh, at this point, if indeed they have, but
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the fact that just to contextualize that, the question you had asked me was based upon
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my return from Guatemala, where I had marched along the road with the caravaners heading
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I was fortunate, uh, that a colleague and friend of mine was the intelligence chief of
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And, uh, I jokingly say that rather than being in a studio in New York or Washington, I went
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I actually went on the ground with the caravaners, uh, I interviewed the president of Guatemala
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I brought along a former colleague, Sarah Carter, who was obviously a contributor at
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Uh, I am not, uh, and we spent five days down there.
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I came back, went into the studio to talk with you.
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And you would ask me what the Guatemalan president had said about who he thought was behind the
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And I truthfully reported that the president of Guatemala thought that it was Soros.
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And he went on from there to describe why and how he thought it was Soros.
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And that for, for reporting, for reporting on what the president of Guatemala and other
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senior leaders told me what they thought about the caravans and the connections to Soros.
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That was a, uh, a forbidden thing that made everybody at the Fox business, you know, jump
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And I, and as I've expressed to you every moment since then, you know, my deepest regrets
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that it occurred and, and, and the, uh, and the harm it did you, uh, and, uh, actually
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I think the, the integrity of the network to do something like that.
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And now we have a changed circumstance and clearly there were, they're talking about
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And I have any Pavlich, a contributor from town hall to Fox news talking with John
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These things shift and, uh, this is a positive one.
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And I've always sincerely appreciated all of your, uh, help and support through all
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And likewise, I am pleased to see that, uh, Katie Pavlich and John Roberts have been able
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to have a discussion about, uh, facts and, and documents and records and things that are
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publicly available on the internet, uh, about, you know, who's doing what to who and where
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the money's going and all those sorts of things.
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Well, as you mentioned, George Soros putting $750,000 into the Wisconsin midterms.
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And as far as I know, there is no Republican equivalent of George Soros, let alone, uh,
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other donors that are putting in Mark Zuckerberg, for example, the money that he is throwing around
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Silicon Valley, uh, wall street, the money that they are pouring into, uh, the rep, the
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And I don't know of a single dime that's been spent and I'd love to be corrected on this
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because I'd love to be wrong, but I don't know of a major effort whatsoever anywhere in
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the Republican party or any campaign to reform the mail-in ballots, to reform the absentee
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ballots, uh, the change, the election season back from, uh, from election season to election
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It's, it's preposterous how little we have heard from the Republicans and they're, and
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they're taking a great deal for granted with all of this talk about wave election.
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I believe there is the impetus for that, but I also know that a lot of things happened
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in 2020 that there has been no, uh, there's been no reform, meaningful reform of it at
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At the national level, uh, the so-called leadership McCarthy and McConnell have essentially accepted
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and bought into the lie that this was the most secure election in American history, that
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there were no irregularities, that there were no, uh, attempts at gamesmanship or manipulation.
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That somehow Zuckerberg pouring hundreds of millions of dollars into Wisconsin, that there
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There was, there was no outcome, no change of anything.
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Um, I mean, just at face value, you have to say, if anybody poured any amount like that
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hundreds of millions of dollars into one state, it would have to have an impact or guess what?
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A very wealthy businessman wouldn't spend that many hundreds of millions of dollars for nothing.
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He wants to get an outcome, then that's his investment.
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So, um, the leadership, McConnell, McCarthy, and others have essentially accepted the big
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And everyone is, if you raise questions, I mean, and I'm not talking about use of the F word,
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I, I'm always cautious about that because fraud has an actual real hard legal meaning.
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And so I, I am always, I, what I want to talk about are election irregularities.
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I want to talk about, uh, ballots that are counted or not counted ballots that suddenly
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Those are all, those irregularities all require investigation and documentation in Wisconsin.
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They've had a legislature chartered an investigation.
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They had a former, a special counsel investigation.
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And that he's a former Wisconsin Supreme court justice.
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This guy has got decades of experience and he's gone.
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You don't see any national leadership from the right, whether it's Republican party guys
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or frankly, anybody else stepping up and demanding that these things get fixed systematically.
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Uh, and there's certainly no George Soros or open society foundation or, or, you know,
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center right equivalent with the same kind of machinery and apparatus and money advocating
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And, and for there to be nothing, uh, is unconscionable.
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It just, I wish that we could be talking right now about some of the great successes and
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we will, the great successes of the, of the Trump endorsements to talk about where the
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And I hope the Republican party is headed in exactly the same direction as, uh, Donald
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Trump, because the ignorance of the leaders of the Republican party is palpable.
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Uh, particularly when you start with Mitch McConnell and you start with Kevin McCarthy,
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uh, I, I know the president loves Kevin McCarthy.
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I don't, I think he is one of the, I, I, I truly believe.
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I mean, I, I respect the president, but I don't get, I mean, there's a lot of evidence
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But I also understand that when you're going into this election, you don't want to do anything.
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If you're president Trump or, uh, anyone else, I guess for that matter, you don't want
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to get involved in a, an, uh, an intramural, um, you want to hold the distraction real close
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and, and, and take it up when you can indeed win.
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And that is without money, without reform, without understanding of what happened in 2020.
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And there've been a couple of, uh, uh, very good documentaries, uh, created, but I, I really
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liked the rigged documentary, uh, that David Bossy did on, on the election of 2020.
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And he focuses on, uh, you know, real, uh, anomalies that contributed to, uh, his defeat.
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And by the way, there are also no accidents in these campaigns.
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Uh, these are orchestrated, uh, events and we have to understand why and why the Republican
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They have bought into the democratic establishments.
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Oh, you, it's already been, uh, the idea of the, uh, the election being rigged, you know,
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You can see it in all of the corporatist, uh, news outlets.
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They refer to it, not just as a, as a claim, but a debunked claim when it's absolutely not
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They haven't been debunked, the FBI didn't investigate a single election, not, and Homeland
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Security certainly didn't, despite that being their charge.
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Uh, they simply referred to it as a, just a terrific little election.
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Everyone watching television saw inexplicable events if they stayed with the election coverage
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So, uh, so here we are, meanwhile, Arabella, dark money, uh, funding, all sorts of initiatives
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that will benefit the democratic candidates at the local county and state level, as well
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And no matter how much we talk about, you know, how the margin of victory, the landslides,
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the wave elections, you know, we're always coming back to that's the Stalin quote, you
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know, go ahead and vote as long as I get to decide who counts, you know, and that's where
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That is where this country is such massive political corruption.
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We can't trust the FBI, the justice department.
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Look what they're doing with the border for crying out loud.
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We have a government that is weaponized politically against the American right, the American middle
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independence and conservatives and Republicans don't stand a chance right now.
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Given the array of, uh, donors, organizations, and individuals who've been put into action
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And the so-called leadership, uh, McCarthy, McConnell, others, they are so timid.
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They are so terribly terrified of being identified with any of those people, you know, the great
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unwashed masses out there that the people that are actually the grassroots activists who are
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fed up and frustrated and demanding accountability, they wish to distance themselves so far from
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them, from people that are willing to go and, uh, you know, look, even at the, at the local
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level, people that are willing to go in and file their own state open records law requests
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to gain access to ballots or to voter rolls or to double check reporting and accounting.
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Uh, you know, they are just terrified of even making statements that would be supportive of
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people conducting audits and reviews for any kind of reform for, uh, Hey, like you said,
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instead of having election season, why don't we stick to what the constitution says, which
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is an election day period and the whole world knows when it is.
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If you're not available or you're traveling or you're deployed overseas or whatever it
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is, you have all kinds of opportunities to file your ballot in a timely manner.
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So that it arrives on election day and not turn it into how many votes do we need to win?
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And we'll, you know, a couple of vans will back up to the warehouse and we'll get enough
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votes because that's what we're currently experiencing.
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Well, I don't want to draw an equation between political engagement and testosterone levels,
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but you know, when you look at the history and the reporting that's being done on the
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decline in testosterone in the United States, and by the way, much of the world, uh, it's
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No one is doing research on it, but the effect, the effect here is we have a, we have a Republican
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party, uh, you know, I think they ought to sort of just tech, uh, check the testosterone
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levels between the Democrats and the Republicans, because there's something going on here that
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Why are the Republicans so passive when they're being slapped in the teeth?
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They've just watched a, an election, uh, tear down their candidate, Donald Trump, uh, in
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full view of television cameras, attorneys, and everything else.
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I'm kidding, of course, about the testosterone stuff, but I mean, it really does make you
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think what, why don't the Republicans even want to understand what happened?
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You know, in the 2012, Chris, the Republicans famously did that, uh, post-action report,
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uh, the post-mortem called autopsy appropriately enough for why they, they were defeated.
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We haven't had a similar thing happen after the most historic defeat for the Republican
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And here's the, here's the real, this is, will inflame and infuriate you more.
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We're not actually asking anybody to do anything, right?
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Will you document, you know, after the fact, historically go and arrive at, uh, conclusions
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Step two is to figure out how to fix it, but they're afraid to even ask the question to
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find out what the hell's going on in order to do a, an assessment of, okay, now that we
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know how screwed up it is, how do we actually go forward now and put into place measures
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The, the Republican leadership, and in fact, not even just the, the party operatives I'm
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talking about, I'm talking about vast numbers of people on the generic center, right.
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They are terrified of even being seen to be in the same room as people who wish to ask
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questions about the election, because that means you don't believe that means you question
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You don't think that we have the greatest thing since sliced bread.
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Well, you know, and that's, they're afraid of that.
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Think back to 1960 and that election, John F. Kennedy and Richard M. Nixon, Nixon lost
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I think it was around a hundred thousand votes and, and, and look to cook County for that margin.
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And he chose not to pursue a recount, even though it would have been perfectly rational and within
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his, his prerogatives, because quote unquote, he did not want to cast doubts on the legitimacy
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Now think about the, that, and that view, by the way, became the basis for every politician
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I think that there was a, I think there was a, a little irregularity here between the unions
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and the votes that were turned out and bought in 1960.
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But Richard Nixon says, even though it's crooked rigged, uh, I'm not going to do anything because
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that'll cast illegitimacy on an election that he said and believed to be illegitimate, illegal,
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Uh, so that became the mindset for the establishment for decades to follow right up to 2020.
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I mean, uh, our democracy is at its best when there's a healthy and vigorous exchange of opposing
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points of view, uh, not, uh, sort of whimpering compliance.
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And, uh, you know, the, the problem that we face is that, uh, that requires, uh, I'll go
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back to your, your testosterone level check, uh, reference.
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That's a good, good way to describe it, but there's gotta be, I mean, you have to actually
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Can you imagine that you have to actually believe in the American ideal and in what you stand
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And you have to have courage of your convictions and, uh, those are rare things.
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Very, very rare to actually stand up and say, you know what?
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No, I'm calling, uh, I'm calling this what it is.
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We may get very upset for the next 20 minutes as we go back and forth arguing, but I'm not
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The American people are not mushrooms where you throw, you know, throw crap over them and,
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This is, and I, I hate this expression that is taken on currency now, uh, in the, at least
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the, the chattering class suddenly we're talking, I'm hearing people talk about, well, you know,
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And I'm, I'm thinking what elite, a son of a gun, you know, and I'm talking about Republicans
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saying that, how can they get to the point where the GOP, the party of Trump, a populist
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nationalist figure of historic and historical importance has this as, uh, in his wake, uh,
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I mean, in my opinion, the, the best president since Washington, um, and, and, and the, the
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reason why you see this, this is all kind of like snap back, uh, you know, uh, counter
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And again, it lines up beautifully with all the, the worst tenants of sort of the Bolshevik
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left we have in, in, uh, in America, the people that run the democratic party, uh, you, what
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you see is, you know, count their, uh, their reactionary.
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So you're seeing a reactionary response to somebody who actually kicked the door down and turned
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on the lights and raised the shades and said, Hey, this is America.
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We need to, uh, you know, we need to return to our founding principles and, and, and people
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are just flipping out and going in the opposite direction as hard and fast as they can.
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I want to give credit to two people if I can, because, uh, uh, in, in the case of JD Vance,
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who just won the Republican primary in Ohio, I was neutral on him, uh, neutral to Leary,
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I would say, and, uh, he went on Tucker Carlson show right after he had won.
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Uh, and I mean, he went after the Republican establishment and called them out for their
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corruption, uh, their, uh, their absolute perfidy.
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Uh, and, and I, I haven't heard that from a single other candidate running, but it was
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his acknowledgement truthfully and vigorously that he has to beat all the Democrats in the
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But he also has to be very careful watching and, and, uh, for stalling the Republican establishment
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And we have to understand that all of us who consider ourselves Republicans, uh, and who
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support Donald Trump, it, there's no sense to, and by the way, I'm not going to take anybody's
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Somebody can tell me they really like Mitch McConnell and they really like Kevin McCarthy.
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It's America, but I can tell you neither one of them has ever done a thing that convinces me
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that they're prepared to, to be America first, uh, uh, leaders and to be committed to this
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And, uh, the, uh, I'm curious to, to give the, to learn your second shout out.
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The first one's JD Vance for, for kind of, uh, and I, and I didn't know Frank, other than
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the book he wrote, Hillbilly Elegy, I didn't, I was not, uh, not, uh, deeply immersed in
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the, uh, the mechanics of Ohio Republican politics, as far as who's who and what's what
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I knew that some people were pulling their hair out of their heads over that others were
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sort of indifferent, but, uh, I I'm reassured by what you said that, you know, uh, with regard
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to him explaining the, uh, the struggle with the sort of, uh, the entrenched Republican
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He was an anti-Trumper and that was the, and I, I was very dismissive of it.
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Uh, because he was a vigorous anti-Trumper to say the least, uh, but everyone adapts,
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Uh, sometimes it's sincere and sometimes it isn't, it appears to be sincere and intellectually,
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uh, you know, uh, he, he's saying the right things.
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Uh, he is reacting, uh, is I would want, and maybe that's what a good politician does.
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I'm not going to credit him yet with sincerity, uh, but I do credit him, uh, with the, the right
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statement in the right direction as a public leader.
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And I think I've got, suddenly I've got very high hopes for him.
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Now, the other person I want to credit is Elon Musk, who is, you know, as soon as we saw
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these six, uh, nonprofits, uh, NGOs, and, uh, you know, these scurrilous advocacy groups
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signing a letter to attack, to attack the world's richest man.
00:30:33.160
The fact of the matter is they don't want anyone advertising on Twitter and they identify
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the weakness of Twitter immediately and the dependency that could grow up there.
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And, and Elon Musk point blank said, sunshine is a great disinfectant.
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Let's get some transparency about who these groups are, what they're doing.
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And, and, and, and he, again, committed to unfettered free speech, uh, and he's right.
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And he's the only businessman I know who's standing up and saying, we must stop this.
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And he's, and he put $44 billion, not all of his money, but a lot of it.
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And immediately he has some despair, but the point is he's investing and putting himself
00:31:20.800
at risk for the right reasons and for the right people.
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That is the American middle-class, the American working man and woman and their families, the
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Americans who make this country work because that's where the American dream resides.
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I'm just so proud of him, uh, because he could be doing lots of things, but taking on the
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establishments of both parties and demanding free speech, uh, for all is, uh, my, uh, that's
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I'll tell you, well, all you got to do is look at anyone that advocates against free
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speech, and then you see their really pained, excruciating explanations of how they want
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to cultivate an ecosystem of, you know, awareness.
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And, uh, it's all this mush mouth, double talk, phony compassion for the, uh, you know, disenfranchised,
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I don't even know what the heck they're talking about.
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I mean, anybody with a cell phone can post or, or say anything they, they please.
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So the notion that somehow there's this elitist access to the internet is just preposterous.
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And the idea that the American public is so stupid is so uncultured, so idiotic that they're
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not able to read something and discern for themselves, whether it's real or fake, or whether
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they like it or they don't, or they support it or they believe in it or they buy it or
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I mean, this is the elite of the elite of the elite warning us that again, once again,
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I mean, well, let's say, you know, let's be, let's use this free speech.
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His statements about freedom of speech and the necessity to control thought and words are
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And anyone who believes in this country should be absolutely sickened at what he said and
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And within a week, the next thing, Joe Biden representing the third term of Barack Obama
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comes out to create the ministry of truth, the disinformation governance board.
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You couldn't, how, how Orwellian do you want to be?
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Because that's just about at least the penultimate, if not the ultimate in that language, the opposite
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He said it was disinformation governance board purpose to stop misinformation.
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And I encourage every listener to go look up Nina Jankiewicz's Twitter feed and all the
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various postings of her, her public behavior and conduct and her statements and educate
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yourself on what this woman stands for and what she has posted and things she said and
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And, you know, inform your intellect about who this person is, who's been put in charge.
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And then once you've done that, contemplate what sort of people would select her to be
00:34:43.960
Marxist leftist of the, of the Biden administration and the cabal that pulls the strings of this
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puppet president, but Jankiewicz, she is, first of all, she's a, she's quite a deal.
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But she peddled the laptop, the Hunter Biden laptop as Russian disinformation.
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She peddled the steel dossier is real and not, you know, not a, a, a caricature emanating
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and originating in the Hillary Clinton campaign and the democratic national committee.
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She is, uh, she's a, uh, she's a Mary Poppins of the Marxist left.
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And by the way, she's on record as having saying there should never be such a board as
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the one that, uh, uh, apparently has been created by a president with what authority
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I've asked you a number of people, no one knows what authority, and I'm talking about
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lawyers, no one knows what authority he's, uh, using, uh, to base the creation of this
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absurdity and this obscenity called the disinformation governance board.
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Well, you can rest assured that we have, uh, sent a barrage of, uh, open records requests
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to our illustrious department of Homeland security, seeking all the records and documents that form
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the foundation for the decision to create that thing.
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And, uh, we will have a trove of emails and policy papers and all sorts of interesting and
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amusing things to read about her, about Mayorkas, about who was pushing this.
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Because evidently, uh, uh, I think it was daily mail, uh, you have to go to a foreign
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paper to learn anything about the United States.
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By the way, I want to say this about the daily mail.
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That news organization is embarrassing the American news media, American corporate media.
00:36:55.220
They are running laps around, uh, these, uh, these corporatists, uh, they need to get a
00:37:04.200
little change in focus and, and perhaps follow the energy and the, uh, integrity of the, of the
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The daily mail reporters actually, uh, answer all the basic interrogatives in every story.
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If you can imagine that who, what, run, where, how, and why.
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And they often have photos and, and, uh, PDFs of records and documents in their stories.
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Uh, you have to read a foreign paper to find out what's going on in the United States.
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But, uh, you know, the, the, the amount of documentation behind what was done to create
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this thing and the incentives and the suggestions and who was kind of pushing from the outside,
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we will get, uh, all the records and documents about that.
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And if they don't give them to us, we'll sue them and we'll compel them by court order to
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So the, the gruesome little details will come out and judicial watch does an amazing job.
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And we, we both compliment you and thank you, but let's be straightforward about this.
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It won't be soon and it won't be in time for the midterms.
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Well, we shouldn't tolerate a judiciary, uh, uh, or a government that operates like it's
00:38:28.440
I mean, to think about what the Supreme court is doing, they take a hundred cases, uh, chew
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on it for a while, go out and have a Chardonnay come back.
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Uh, I, I mean, really this is the way in which the Supreme court is supposed to work.
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This is justice streaking through the great, the great American Republic.
00:38:50.420
Yeah, no, I was going to say a lot of people don't realize that, you know, there's probably
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10,000, uh, appeals, the writs of certiorari, uh, sent to the Supreme court every year and
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they cherry pick the anywhere between 60 and 80 normally cases that they decide that they're
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Most Americans don't realize that they think that it's some process where, Hey, you'll hear
00:39:11.980
people say ignorantly, I'm taking this to the Supreme court.
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They get about 10,000 applications every year and the justices themselves decide which cases
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And the overwhelming majority, you know, go right in the garbage pail.
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And I'm still so disgusted by chief justice, John Roberts.
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It's hard for me to contain myself because he's the one who said there are no Obama judges.
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You know, it was a lie on its face and a lie that just reduced him to a caricature, uh,
00:39:51.680
a, and, and by the way, a partisan caricature, uh, in what he was saying, the Supreme court
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leak, Chris, uh, I think it's a work of the left.
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I don't know which, uh, I don't know which justice, but Adam Schiff saying that finding
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I mean, this is my, my guess is we're going to find out that it's a clerk from, I don't
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know, uh, Sotomayor's or briars or it's going to be so the circle of knowledge ability, the
00:40:28.920
circle of access of people who would have had the ability to get their hands on that
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So my guess is, uh, the marshal of the Supreme court, who I think is a retired army colonel.
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I mean, they should have been able to knock this out in about 20 minutes, frankly, but
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nonetheless, they'll go and do their, their interviews.
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I also would imagine that there's a bunch of other Supreme court clerks and they're all
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A lot of them, they don't think it's very funny and they want to see this person, you
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So I expect that we're going to find out in pretty quick order who did it.
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Well, I would just suggest a couple of things about that, Chris.
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One is, I don't think it would be a right-wing clerk because the right-wing clerk would know
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that he or she was done if they were found out.
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Whereas if you're a liberal clerk, uh, you will be covered by the party.
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Perhaps, uh, you know, you spend two years on all expenses, paid vacations by, by leaking
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this and ginning up the base, uh, for the, the, the Marxist left party.
00:41:35.000
Uh, it's, uh, I, I think frankly, Roberts is not out of contention either here because
00:41:42.200
you're, you recall back when in Obamacare, there was a leak, there was a leak that he was
00:41:49.020
going to vote conservative and there was such public outrage.
00:41:52.360
And we were seeing, by the way, I think just a, an echo of that precise moment.
00:41:57.820
And it's apparently convinced him to change his vote.
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And that's why he, that backlash public backlash.
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And that's the reason he went with the liberals.
00:42:08.960
And, and by the way, there's another part of that, that people miss sometimes they never
00:42:18.780
But if you, if you don't look for them, you can't find them.
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Well, I, I'm, I'm assured that they were looking hard.
00:42:30.120
So whoever, whoever did this one, as you, as you pointed out, they, uh, you know, from
00:42:35.500
the left, they will be awarded their, you know, order of Lennon.
00:42:38.580
And then they will go on and, uh, and head up some, uh, NGO for a few years and then circle
00:42:44.140
back in and, you know, two, three, four administrations down the road, there'll be the
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Offenses are being put up all around the Supreme court.
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Uh, left-wing groups are calling not, you know, not for calm and reason they're calling
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We see Antifa already in two cities, Portland and Los Angeles reacting violently.
00:43:10.280
And by the way, of course, no arrests or prosecutions.
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We don't, it sounds like an insurrection to me.
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I called it that on Twitter, uh, because I just think that left, that's the language
00:43:24.780
So insurrection it is, but this is a full blown effort now to intimidate five justices
00:43:34.760
I haven't heard a single response from the leadership of the Republican party.
00:43:38.880
I haven't heard a single business leader in this country.
00:43:41.580
You remember when business leaders, CEOs, chairman of the board actually stood up and said something
00:43:47.040
about the national interest and begged for morality in the public square and conducted
00:44:00.840
We have accomplices to the Marxist left and they fund them.
00:44:06.180
They incorporate them into their HR departments or otherwise known as their political
00:44:11.060
organizations within the corporation, uh, and do everything they can, uh, to roll forward
00:44:17.880
with an agenda that is, that is alien to America and anti-American as it can be.
00:44:25.620
Well, there was a time when economic nationalism expressed itself, you know, as America first
00:44:30.020
also, when it came to our industry manufacturing base, but you know, all those sort of strengths
00:44:36.700
of, uh, of, of days gone by and, uh, American CEOs and business owners were unapologetically
00:44:44.080
pro-American now, you know, they're all worried about, uh, the, the, the next protest or the
00:44:50.020
next group of 26 phony leftist groups that are going to, you know, attack them, uh, via
00:44:55.860
Twitter or some other social media platform and, you know, call for boycotts and all the rest
00:45:01.980
And we, and we had Billy Graham, we've got Franklin Graham, who's, who is, uh, offering
00:45:09.980
We have the Pope who I thought did the right thing.
00:45:12.960
He was going to go talk to Moscow, to Vladimir Putin and Moscow, but, but Ukraine.
00:45:18.740
But then just yesterday, he decided to announce that perhaps the reason Putin had invaded Ukraine
00:45:27.560
and I'm, I'm, I'm, uh, reducing this to its essence, uh, maybe it was, uh, he used the expression
00:45:38.180
And so the Pope is probably out as a, uh, honest broker and a leader for peace.
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Uh, it was a stunning moment, assuming he was, uh, translated correctly.
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We should, somebody should go find Benedict and see what he has to say.
00:45:57.080
Well, there's something for everybody, as they say, I appreciate it, Chris.
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Uh, as always, we give our guests the last word and Chris, thank you for being here and
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Um, I just want to reassure all of your listeners that judicial watch will continue to do what
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We're still getting answers to FOIA open records requests that are 16 and 17 years old.
00:46:34.080
So, uh, we will continue to fight, to bring the truth, documentary evidence to the American
00:46:39.860
And we always appreciate the opportunity, whether it's myself or my colleague, Tom Fitton, to
00:46:44.940
come on your show and talk about our work and talk about the, the state of affairs in
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And, uh, my, my great personal thanks and respect to you always.
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He's the director of research and investigations for judicial watch, uh, and God bless you for
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Chris, uh, look forward to our next conversation.
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I hope you'll join us tomorrow when our guest will be one of the January 6th defendants who
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had to stand alone against the power of the authoritarian left against a politically corrupt
00:47:31.640
Brandon Strzok has spent the past year trying to rebuild his life, a life upended by the Capitol
00:47:38.120
and DC police and federal prosecutors who tried to make an example of him because he was a
00:47:51.740
Please be with us tomorrow, right here on the great America show till then.