The Great America Show - WHY WON’T McCARTHY IMPEACH？

00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs, and this is The Great America Show. It's great to have

00:00:07.620 you with us. This new week in America begins with a Bidens mired in the D.C. swamp, the

00:00:13.880 corruption under investigation by three powerful congressional committees led by Jim Jordan's

00:00:19.840 Judiciary Committee and Government Weaponization Subcommittee, and James Comer chairing the

00:00:25.620 Oversight Committee, Jason Smith, the head of Ways and Means. And the scandals worsen for Joe Biden

00:00:32.200 and Hunter. And the cover-ups just keep coming. There's sure to be a large number of investigations

00:00:38.700 of the FBI, DOJ, Secret Service, and intel agencies in the months ahead. So much is clear, obvious

00:00:47.880 evidence that those agencies are central to conspiracies waged against President Trump for

00:00:54.260 almost eight years. And it's just over a week now since the Biden cocaine caper broke. The White

00:01:01.160 House still hasn't released a report on what fingerprints and White House surveillance video

00:01:06.460 shows. Still no suspect name or in custody for the cocaine left behind at the White House just two

00:01:14.660 days after Hunter Biden was there. I'm not saying there's anything connected, but it is, it seems,

00:01:21.640 a possibility. Biden has been known to leave things behind. Secret Service seems to be dragging their

00:01:28.800 feet as well in the so-called investigation. That has prompted House Oversight Committee Chairman James

00:01:34.420 Comer to get involved. The chairman issued a letter Friday to the director of Secret Service,

00:01:40.740 giving him until this Friday to brief Comer and his staff on the investigation. And get this,

00:01:47.120 the Secret Service says the investigation will conclude this week, even if they don't have a

00:01:54.880 suspect identified. Now that is big-time bureaucratic arrogance. And given the Secret Service's record,

00:02:03.280 it just may be a warning. A warning that the cover-up for the Bidens is now set in place. We'll see.

00:02:11.340 Chairman Comer is set to begin deposing Biden family associates as early as this week,

00:02:16.540 and he begins with former Biden associate Devin Archer. Archer served with Biden on the board of

00:02:22.720 Burisma back in 2014, before getting into his own legal trouble in 2022 for defrauding a Native

00:02:29.380 American tribal entity and being ordered to pay almost $50 million to the victims. And while Comer

00:02:38.100 conducts his investigation, Marxist Dems Special Counsel Jack Smith continues his harassment of President

00:02:45.840 Trump. Just four months now, and Smith has already spent $5.5 million investigating the former

00:02:52.680 president, with $1.8 million spent on contractors and another $2.6 million on personnel. In contrast,

00:03:01.540 Robert Herr, I'm sure you remember him, he was the special counsel. Oops, my mistake. He still is the

00:03:07.620 special counsel investigating Joe Biden's theft of classified documents, and he's only spent $600,000.

00:03:15.260 I wonder if we can safely project how that investigation will go based on that small

00:03:21.960 amount of money spent investigating. And if you want to add in John Durham's special counsel,

00:03:28.600 he spent $7.7 million, and Robert Mueller spent $32 million. And President Trump, speaking in Council

00:03:35.680 Bluffs, Iowa, reminded us why the deep state and Marxist Dems are prosecuting him.

00:03:40.860 If they wanted to run against me, they wouldn't have me under federal indictment. Okay? They

00:03:46.660 wouldn't have me. But I'm doing this for you, and we're going to win, and we're going to turn our

00:03:51.140 country around. Because in the end, they're not after me, they're after you, and I just happen to

00:03:58.040 be standing in the way. That's true. True. True.

00:04:02.200 So far, President Trump has the endorsements of 10 senators and over 60 members of the House.

00:04:11.140 There is one prominent member of the House of Representatives who's refused to endorse Trump.

00:04:16.960 You won't be surprised. That man, of course, is rhino Kevin McCarthy. Politico reporting McCarthy

00:04:23.360 told colleagues he's not endorsing Trump while at their 2024 House Republican meeting. Congressman

00:04:30.020 Dan Muser, who is supporting Trump's re-election, says McCarthy said this, quote,

00:04:35.900 Hey, you're with DeSantis right now. That's okay. We get that. You're with Mike Pence, Tim Scott.

00:04:42.500 But in the end, we've got to come together with who's going to be our winning candidate.

00:04:47.520 End quote. You notice he left out a name there. Well, let's bring in our guest today to take all

00:04:53.200 of this up and more, none other than the longtime political strategist Roger Stone and bestselling

00:04:59.560 author. Roger, great to have you with us here on The Great America Show again. The polling for Donald

00:05:05.120 Trump is amazing. It looks disastrous for DeSantis. It looks like it could be over and done with and

00:05:11.940 very early. Despite everything, the Marxist dims, the deep state, and rhinos are throwing at him.

00:05:17.380 Lou, I'm glad to be with you again. I think that you are right. I mean, obviously,

00:05:23.220 it isn't done till it's done and the votes are counted, but it is completely unpredictable. But

00:05:31.200 every time the Democrat media cabal, including the Justice Department, takes another shot at Donald

00:05:39.960 Trump, his poll ratings go up, his level of support intensifies, and he rakes in millions of dollars

00:05:48.080 more in small and medium-sized campaign contributions. So it is normally, you would see if a candidate for

00:05:58.400 public office got federally indicted, their support would collapse. But I think the American people,

00:06:04.180 and particularly Republicans, see through what is happening, and therefore it is fueling his drive

00:06:11.120 for the nomination. Now, you couple that with the fact that my governor, Governor Ron DeSantis,

00:06:16.740 is spending millions of dollars, but he seems to have no traction at all. Meanwhile, back here in

00:06:24.600 Florida, in all honesty, we have an insurance crisis. We have a mosquito crisis. We have a water

00:06:33.360 water quality crisis. We have a housing crisis. And he seems to have checked out from a job that he

00:06:42.000 just got, you know, five months ago, a renewal at least. So yes, I think you're right. I think Trump

00:06:47.620 is now inexorably driving towards the nomination, and he will be the nominee of the Republican Party

00:06:55.060 in 2024. But as he has been for eight years, he's also fighting the deep state, the Marxist Dems, and the

00:07:03.680 what we used to call corporate America. It's global corporatists who are trying to stop him at every

00:07:11.260 turn. They are not going to stop, are they? Well, I don't really think that his exposure is political.

00:07:19.480 I think to the extent that he has any vulnerability is because we have a completely biased and weaponized

00:07:26.060 criminal justice system. And the more epic corruption on the part of Joe and Hunter and Jim

00:07:35.660 Biden and other members of the Biden crime family, crimes that I think now include extortion, bribery,

00:07:43.460 money laundering, influence peddling, lobbying without registering, for which Paul Manafort did hard time,

00:07:52.400 but not Tony Podesta, and other egregious crimes. The more evidence that gets put on the public docket,

00:08:00.600 the more they have to ratchet up the attacks on Donald Trump to distract the American people from that.

00:08:06.980 At the end of the day, Lou, I think the jury on all of these charges against Donald Trump is going to end up

00:08:15.360 being the American voters, not the jurors in the courtroom, but the American people themselves.

00:08:21.500 Timing here becomes crucial. It's unclear whether the current charges against the president is unclear when

00:08:30.400 they will go to trial. When Andrew Weissman, who was the de facto head of the Mueller witch hunt,

00:08:38.560 a disgraced and epically corrupt former prosecutor, predicts that Donald Trump will be subjected to

00:08:46.460 additional charges in New Jersey or D.C., you can pretty much take that to the bank. I found that

00:08:53.440 by watching Mr. Weissman's Twitter feed, anything he predicts is going to happen about two days later,

00:08:59.260 it does happen. By his own admission, he's in direct contract writing memos and probably more

00:09:05.160 for our current Justice Department officials. So at the end of the day, however, all of this can be

00:09:12.360 voided. All of it can be addressed in a federal election. There's no crime that I see that they

00:09:19.080 could illegitimately accuse the president of that would disqualify him from being a candidate for

00:09:26.520 president again. And they're really not running well enough to be even called also rants. But at the

00:09:34.080 same time, we've got a White House that is apparently has been taken over by the cartels and at least in

00:09:43.480 the in the product they're peddling, cocaine, making its way to the to the to the work area, at least to

00:09:51.220 the of the White House. What do you make of this? And how in the world does the Secret Service

00:09:57.320 succeed in protecting Joe Biden and his son once again?

00:10:02.040 It's really quite extraordinary because the the single most influential legislator in the country

00:10:09.260 who gave us our current drug laws, which I think are badly needed reform, but the person who weaponized

00:10:15.720 our drug laws to mandate the harsh required penalties for the first time nonviolent crime

00:10:23.100 of possession of small amounts of drugs for personal use, which has unfairly fallen disproportionately on

00:10:30.300 poor people and black people is Joe Biden. Joe Biden wrote those laws, but his son is being excused

00:10:37.820 from them. It is also true that if you are a known drug user and you have a firearm, you're subject to a

00:10:45.180 penalty that in most cases includes prison, but not for Hunter Biden. It is extraordinary

00:10:52.380 that the House Republicans have uncovered as much as they have given the pardon to use a Watergate

00:10:59.740 analogy stonewalling by the FBI director who's refusing to turn over certain documents to legitimate

00:11:08.200 House committee investigators. Yet liberals like Weissman and Dan Goldman from New York and Jamie

00:11:15.100 Raskin, those two are a piece of work jumping up and down, screaming about the rule of law. What about

00:11:20.620 the rule of law there? Of course, they never address that. No, if they certainly would not. And Adam

00:11:27.820 Schiff is apparently waiting in reserve to corroborate any statements of semi-fact that they utter.

00:11:35.340 It's also very important to me, at least, to understand what is happening with those House

00:11:41.660 investigation committees. They're doing great work, but I don't sense that they have a sufficient number

00:11:48.780 of investigators. I don't sense that they have staffed up to the degree that I certainly expected.

00:11:56.460 They're getting a lot done. But I think so much more could be done with real resources. And I mean, Marxist

00:12:05.740 Democrat level resources to go after all that they need.

00:12:10.780 I could not agree with you more. I mean, the January 6th Kabuki theater that they put together,

00:12:17.740 in which several of their witnesses committed perjury when they mentioned my name,

00:12:21.980 in which they actually showed AI-generated videos that were damning to me but proved nothing whatsoever.

00:12:31.500 It was a complete fraud, but their budget was unlimited.

00:12:35.180 It is extraordinary that Kevin McCarthy has enough right now in his hands to move articles of

00:12:44.380 impeachment against Joe Biden, against Attorney General Merrick Garland, against the FBI director,

00:12:52.460 Mr. Wray, far more than the Democrats ever had when they impeached Donald Trump twice.

00:12:59.660 Now, there could be a political calculation that they haven't moved towards impeachment because they

00:13:06.700 don't have two thirds of the vote in the US Senate to convict. I would argue that the Democrats knew

00:13:12.380 they never had two thirds, but they moved to impeach Donald Trump because they understood the political

00:13:18.140 value of that proceeding. And secondarily, the corruption by the Bidens is so egregious,

00:13:25.500 so outrageous, so over the top, so obvious that it's conceivable that during a trial in the Senate,

00:13:33.580 which the fake news media would have to cover, would be virtually impossible for them not to cover,

00:13:39.820 because the way they handle the Biden scandals now is just not mentioning them,

00:13:44.540 perhaps two thirds of the vote could actually be found. So, at a certain point,

00:13:50.460 why Speaker Kevin McCarthy needs to fish or cut bait. Now, I guess he would argue maybe he can't

00:13:56.940 bring everybody in his caucus along. I mean, there were 20 House members on the Republican side who

00:14:03.660 actually voted against censuring Adam Schiff. I'll give them this out, that there may have been

00:14:11.020 some aspects of the original censorship motion that were unconstitutional. And as you know,

00:14:16.780 once they corrected those, they did vote to censure him, which by the way, sadly, probably allowed him

00:14:22.540 to raise millions and millions of dollars more for his Democratic US Senate bid, because the California

00:14:31.180 Democratic primary is a left wing orgy. We're talking with Roger Stone. When we come back,

00:14:37.980 we'll see why he thinks it is that Kevin McCarthy is a let's hold for a moment before we actually move

00:14:47.020 forward from here on impeachment of what are obvious knaves. We'll be right back. Stay with us.

00:14:59.580 We're back now talking with Roger Stone. We're talking about a host of issues, but amongst them,

00:15:05.180 the Speaker of the House, who has for now at least declared no impeachment of President Biden.

00:15:11.980 Well, if Kevin McCarthy wants to take his time, that's fine. Then issue subpoenas for the Attorney

00:15:18.860 General, Mr. Garland, so he can explain the discrepancies between what he said previously in

00:15:23.900 his sworn testimony before Congress and the claims of this Mr. Shapely, the most reason the most recent,

00:15:30.940 I think extremely compelling whistleblower, let him issue a subpoena for Barack Obama.

00:15:38.700 And for that matter, for Joe Biden, for former Attorney General Loretta Lynch, for former FBI

00:15:44.700 Director James Comey, for former CIA Director John Brennan, because the Durham matter is still before

00:15:52.380 the Congress for review. And Mr. Durham basically exposed the fact that all of those people knew there

00:15:59.180 was no Russian collusion. All of those people knew there was no probable cause to justify the opening

00:16:06.300 of the FBI's Crossfire Hurricane counterintelligence investigation. There was no probable cause or

00:16:14.780 rationale for the appointment of Robert Mueller. There was certainly no legal rationale or probable cause

00:16:23.020 to issue FISA warrants that allowed the Obama administration to spy on Donald Trump and his campaign.

00:16:29.180 So while we're waiting for you, Kevin, why don't you issue subpoenas to all those people?

00:16:35.420 Now, in the case of a former president, House Republicans tried to subpoena Harry Truman in 1950.

00:16:42.940 They were unsuccessful. But why not have that fight in public? What is it Obama has to hide?

00:16:49.340 Why would he be afraid to come before the Congress and answer simple questions? That's how our democracy works,

00:16:55.660 isn't it? So I would hope that that perhaps just perhaps or hopefully Kevin McCarthy is building a better

00:17:03.420 case, a stronger case. But at the end of the day, Lou, I honestly believe he will either move articles of

00:17:10.300 impeachment or he will lose his speakership over it. He has a thin majority. He agreed to rules that allow any

00:17:19.020 member to make a motion to vacate the chair as a privileged motion so it can't be tabled.

00:17:25.580 So any House member say, oh, I don't know, Matt Gaetz could make such a motion. At the end of the day,

00:17:32.940 he is going to have to fish or cut bait. And one hopes soon. But that may also be part of the calibration

00:17:41.980 for for Kevin McCarthy, the Speaker of the House. Well, at some point, I think Joe Biden has to make

00:17:49.100 a calculation because I think there's every possibility that his fellow Democrats, whether

00:17:55.580 or not he's impeachable with two thirds of the vote, may elect to remove him under the 25th Amendment,

00:18:01.100 because quite obviously the man is not well. It's very clear that he's not well. And I think Democrats

00:18:08.140 Democrats also recognize that he is a probable general election loser, although the way our

00:18:13.500 current system works, Donald Trump could go into election day with an eight point national lead

00:18:18.540 still lose. Although right now, I would say when you look at the swing states, he's leading in every

00:18:24.540 single one of them. And therefore, the tea leaves are quite encouraging. Again, I have said this before

00:18:33.100 and I'll stick to it. If Kamala Harris becomes president, either through the 25th Amendment

00:18:40.140 removal of Joe Biden, the resignation of Joe Biden, in which case, he would then pardon himself,

00:18:45.660 his son, his brother and other members of the Biden crime family. And he does have to keep that in mind.

00:18:52.460 Or because he is impeached, in which case, he would have to move quickly. I still think their most

00:19:00.380 logical candidate, if they're going to replace a woman of color who rises to the presidency, Kamala

00:19:07.340 Harris, would have to be Michelle Obama, who I think would be a very strong and exceedingly

00:19:14.220 formidable candidate. She then would take Gavin Newsom for vice president, but she'd make him pay

00:19:20.060 for it. He would have to raise hundreds of millions of dollars for the ticket, which, of course,

00:19:24.860 he's more than capable of doing as the governor of California. But today, nominating a white man in

00:19:32.060 the Democratic Party, particularly if that were the sequence of events, would be extremely difficult.

00:19:38.700 I want to turn to the next issue, it seems to me, is how do we get out of this swamp that we're in?

00:19:49.740 And I mean this in all of the iterations of the semantics, because we're looking at a country

00:19:56.940 that's divided, red, blue, conservative, liberal, progressive, Marxist, and patriot,

00:20:07.980 Republicans, and independents. The divide, as an article in the Wall Street Journal pointed out this week,

00:20:16.540 absolutely, absolutely divided and hardening in their positions.

00:20:22.940 Well, first of all, I think the increasing political strength of Donald Trump is an excellent

00:20:27.340 sign. I'm also, just as a political scientist, I'm very interested in watching the rise of

00:20:33.420 Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who is, I think, striking a very responsive chord within that party and among

00:20:40.460 independents, as well as some Republicans even. So I still think in the country out there,

00:20:47.020 there is an absolute patriotic majority. Lou, you and I are old enough to remember the days when the

00:20:52.620 Democratic Party believed in capitalism, when the Democratic Party was patriotic, when the Democratic

00:20:58.620 Party was a bulk work of anti-communist, anti-communism under John Kennedy and Robert Kennedy,

00:21:04.540 both hardline anti-communists. That Democratic Party simply no longer exists. They are antithetical

00:21:11.900 to free enterprise. They're antithetical to capitalism. They're certainly antithetical to

00:21:16.540 patriotism. They're all about the trans agenda, which I think affects about 9% of the American

00:21:23.420 people, but they're increasingly violent about it. They seem to take a passive role in

00:21:30.300 foreign affairs. Look to me like the Secretary of State, Mr. Blinken, signaled the Chinese recently

00:21:37.260 that if you want to go ahead and grab Taiwan, just help yourself. What they'll get from Joe Biden is

00:21:41.740 a strong letter of protest. That's what they'll get. So I'm convinced there is only one way to save the

00:21:48.780 country, and that is by electing a new chief executive. We have a very, very powerful presidency.

00:21:55.580 We have a high probability, given the current situation, of taking control of the Senate

00:22:02.380 and increasing our slim margin in the House. That is the only way to do it. The other option,

00:22:09.900 civil war, is not something we are for, not something that we advocate. In fact, it's something that we

00:22:15.260 actively oppose. But as people get more and more frustrated, sadly, more Americans talk about it. I

00:22:22.620 don't like it, to be honest with you. I mean, I'm a small D Democrat. I would like to see us win the

00:22:28.380 next election. You saw how much Trump got done in a first term. This was a guy who didn't come from

00:22:34.220 the world of politics and didn't really understand politics in the sense that he didn't know that the

00:22:39.660 nominee of the Republican Party and the sitting president of a party has the absolute right to

00:22:44.780 name anyone they want as Republican national chairman. How would he know that? He hasn't been involved to

00:22:50.380 that degree. He actually, I think, thought that when he got to Washington, there were two teams,

00:22:55.660 the Republicans and the Democrats. He thought the Republicans would rally around him the way they

00:23:00.940 rallied around Ronald Reagan, the last outsider we elected president, and that the Democrats would

00:23:06.380 oppose him. He never understood that he had a fifth column within his own party that never got over his

00:23:12.460 defeat of Jeb Bush, never got over his defeat of the country club Republicans, and who were working

00:23:17.740 actively with Democrats to undermine his presidency. Look how much he got done anyway. The most robust

00:23:24.380 economy in American history, record job creation, record wage growth, record levels of unemployment

00:23:31.420 among all Americans, black, white, Hispanic, young, old, urban, rural. And we had no new foreign wars.

00:23:41.100 The unpredictability of Donald Trump is what kept Vladimir Putin at bay in Ukraine, which kept Xi

00:23:47.420 at bay regarding Taiwan and actually convinced the dictator in North Korea to put his nuclear weapons

00:23:55.820 development program on hold. That's leadership. And it is the unpredictability of Trump that made all those

00:24:04.540 things happen. So I think there is only one answer, and that is to win the next election. And we're on our way to

00:24:12.940 doing that. I mean, Trump is at the top of his game. There is no other political, or I would go so far

00:24:21.020 as to say public figure, who could command 50,000 people in a tiny town in South Carolina. And by the

00:24:29.420 way, the local police chief who I interviewed tells me he thinks that number is low. He thinks it was closer

00:24:34.380 to 81,000 based on the police measures. So I mean, I think he is on his way. I think that the the current

00:24:43.740 Department of Justice effort to to derail his candidacy through the use of lawfare is it is only

00:24:52.700 making him stronger and only making his election more inevitable.

00:24:56.940 And we are talking with Roger Stone. We're going to be talking about the man who killed Kennedy.

00:25:05.740 Roger's title. We're talking about that here next. Stay with us.

00:25:16.780 We're back now talking with Roger Stone. And I want to bring your attention, if I may, ladies and

00:25:22.060 gentlemen, to his terrific book, The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ. Roger,

00:25:31.020 there is nothing I think that fascinates people much more than the the long, long period of time

00:25:39.660 between the assassination of John F. Kennedy and the release of all the documents pertaining to it.

00:25:45.300 Well, here we are. 60 years later, they release more documents as required, but just 80 percent of

00:25:54.500 what was required and promised. And that was Friday a week ago. And your thoughts?

00:26:03.700 Well, first of all, thanks for mentioning my book, The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ.

00:26:08.740 Folks can get an autographed copy if they wish by going to stonezone.com, my website, stonezone.com,

00:26:15.700 and go to the store. There I make the case using eyewitness evidence, fingerprint evidence,

00:26:21.380 and deep Texas politics to make a case that Lyndon Johnson, the Central Intelligence Agency,

00:26:27.140 the Secret Service, the FBI, organized crime, and the big Texas oil companies were involved in a

00:26:34.820 plot, a successful plot, sadly, to murder John F. Kennedy. What we're being told here doesn't make

00:26:41.940 any sense. The Warren Commission, which is, generally speaking, been pretty authoritatively

00:26:48.500 debunked, insists that there were no international involvement in the murder of Kennedy and that there

00:26:56.260 were no foreign actors involved in the murder of John Kennedy, meaning that everyone who may have

00:27:02.100 been involved, in their case, they insisted Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone, was an American citizen.

00:27:09.700 The U.S. House Committee on Assassinations in 1976, which really was set up because the American people

00:27:17.460 just wouldn't buy the Warren Commission version of events, concluded that organized crime was involved.

00:27:26.100 They further concluded that they were a conspiracy, but then they said no more. Thank you very much.

00:27:30.740 We're done here. Very strange. So now President Donald Trump released a very substantial amount of the

00:27:39.460 classified documents because under a law passed by the Congress in 1978, there were specific dates set

00:27:46.100 by which documents had to be released unless a sitting president stopped that release. In the case of

00:27:51.860 Trump, he released about 80 percent of what was that was scheduled to be released. He told me that Mike

00:27:58.980 Pompeo of the CIA talked him into withholding a section of those documents. A decision, by the way,

00:28:06.580 he now says he regrets and he said on my radio show on WABC Radio in New York three weeks ago that if he

00:28:14.980 got back in the White House, he would order at long last the release of everything. Then last week,

00:28:22.100 as you correctly stated, Joe Biden said that he was holding some documents back because they were a

00:28:29.700 matter of national security. Well, that makes no sense. If there's no international involvement

00:28:35.860 of Russia, Cuba or any other nation in the murder of John Kennedy, then what is the national security

00:28:42.900 interest of holding the truth from the American people? I suspect based on everything I've seen and

00:28:49.460 everything I've read and the massive research I did for my book that the final trove of documents

00:28:56.100 will show you the active involvement of the Central Intelligence Agency. We already know from the

00:29:02.660 previous disclosures that the FBI was issuing a 1099 to Lee Harvey Oswald because he was on their

00:29:08.660 payroll. That was withheld from the American people for 60 years. We also know that Lee Harvey Oswald,

00:29:14.900 who the government insists they had no previous knowledge of whatsoever, attended the foreign

00:29:19.860 languages school in North Carolina run by the Central Intelligence Agency. It's where he learned to

00:29:24.820 speak Russian. So we've learned an enormous number of things, but they don't want to throw in the towel

00:29:30.580 because the towel will show that Gerald Posner's book, Case Closed, is entirely wrong and that Lee Harvey

00:29:39.300 Oswald did not shoot and kill John Kennedy and that there was a conspiracy involving multiple gunmen.

00:29:46.020 The Kennedy was shot from both the front and the back. Most of this, I think, has been has been disclosed.

00:29:53.940 But the most amazing thing is, despite this veil of disinformation, the last Gallup poll I saw

00:30:01.620 showed that almost 70% of the American people still didn't believe that the government had told us

00:30:06.900 everything they knew about the Kennedy assassination and still didn't believe that Lee Harvey Oswald

00:30:13.700 killed John Kennedy and acted alone. It's encouraging. You actually talked with President Trump

00:30:20.740 once about the JFK assassination. Can you tell our audience what you talked about and his perspective

00:30:28.340 and yours? Sure. I spoke to him both before and after the decision that he made. He released an

00:30:34.420 enormous amount of material. He just didn't release all of it. He told me that without any question,

00:30:41.380 Mike Pompeo talked to him about out of releasing all of it, citing the whole sources and methods. Well,

00:30:46.980 first of all, there this was over 60 years ago. There's nobody still in the US government,

00:30:51.620 probably nobody alive who is involved in this. And therefore, the idea that we would put someone's

00:30:57.060 life at jeopardy by telling the truth, publishing the truth is nonsensical. If their methods include

00:31:02.900 killing a sitting president in the United States, well, then we need to know what those methods are,

00:31:07.460 in all honesty. I think the president has reached President Trump has reached that conclusion. Now,

00:31:12.420 when I asked him, what is it in there that they're so anxious to hide? He said to me,

00:31:18.820 I can't tell you. He said, it's so horrible. I can't tell you. Someday you'll find out. And then

00:31:25.300 the conversation was over. And now he's committed to releasing all of the documents if he's reelected in

00:31:32.580 2024. And this murder mystery will finally, totally, completely be solved. In all honesty,

00:31:39.780 Lou, I think Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has been extraordinarily courageous about calling out

00:31:46.260 the CIA, about claiming that he doesn't believe the government's version regarding the death of

00:31:52.340 both his uncle and his father. He had an extremely compelling interview with Mike Tyson, of all people,

00:31:59.300 which absolutely must be seen, where he talks about the assassination of his father in Los Angeles

00:32:04.980 on the night of the 1968 California Democratic primary. YouTube took that down. It's too dangerous

00:32:11.700 for the American people to know the truth, Lou. So I pray for Robert Kennedy's safety, because I think

00:32:18.500 he's been extremely courageous about calling out the government regarding their lies about the JFK

00:32:24.660 assassination. I really want to get to this as early as we can. And that is, do you believe

00:32:31.620 that the people who pulled the trigger were U.S. citizens are foreign?

00:32:37.060 I think that they were U.S. citizens. I think that there were multiple shooters. I think a man named

00:32:42.980 Malcolm Mack Wallace is the man shooting from the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository Building.

00:32:48.660 I think this because his fingerprints are most definitely found on the cardboard boxes that form

00:32:54.500 the so-called crow's nest from which the shooter shot. No less than six people on the ground and two of

00:33:02.260 them in the jail across the street identify a man standing in the window who meets the physical description

00:33:09.220 of Wallace. Middle age, heavy set, wearing tan pants and a light jacket, balding and with glasses. Six different

00:33:18.660 people identify this man as standing in the window of the sixth floor from which the alleged shots come.

00:33:25.780 Then there are the fingerprints. We know they're his because Wallace was convicted of first-degree murder

00:33:31.460 in Texas in 1951 where he shot and killed a man who was involved in a love triangle with Lyndon Johnson's sister,

00:33:38.580 a man who was trying to blackmail Senator LBJ. Another man sees Wallace or a man meeting Wallace's

00:33:47.220 description fleeing the Texas School Book Depository Building minutes after the assassination. The idea

00:33:55.060 that Lee Harvey Oswald did this is disproved by the fact that Oswald is seen on the second floor,

00:34:02.260 I believe, pardon me, the third floor cafeteria within the building seconds after the shot is fired.

00:34:09.300 The idea that since the electricity in the building was off, Oswald would have had to run down three

00:34:15.620 flights of wooden stairs where he very definitely would have been heard. But a woman who was on the

00:34:20.660 staircase, whose name was Victoria, I can't recall her last name at the moment, testified to the

00:34:27.060 Warren Commission that she neither saw nor heard Lee Harvey Oswald. Her testimony was discarded.

00:34:33.540 Then there's the question of Officer Tippett. Well, if he didn't kill Kennedy, he'd kill Tippett.

00:34:37.860 Here's the problem, Lou. The spent shells on the ground where Tippett was shot came from an automatic,

00:34:43.940 but Lee Harvey Oswald is arrested moments later in a Texas movie theater, but he's carrying a revolver.

00:34:52.100 There are so many holes in their story. I think that there are multiple shooters. I think it is

00:34:57.540 undeniable based on the testimony of the emergency room doctors at Parkland Hospital in Dallas that

00:35:04.020 Kennedy was shot from both the front and the back. And that means there were multiple shooters,

00:35:09.460 and that means there was a conspiracy. It is possible, I think probable, that the mob imported a shooter who

00:35:16.740 was a paid Corsican assassin. That would be the only non-U.S. citizen involved. And I think that

00:35:24.100 person, whose name was Nicoletti, was the shooter from the so-called grassy knoll.

00:35:29.060 And the CIA, the FBI, those agencies?

00:35:35.060 All in on it. Although the first man bounding up the steps to embrace new President Lyndon Johnson

00:35:42.740 when he arrives back at Andrews Air Force Base is Secret Service Director John Rowley, a man who got

00:35:48.580 his first job in Washington through Congressman Lyndon Johnson. Jager Hoover, of course, is Lyndon Johnson's

00:35:57.300 next door neighbor. As a Senate majority leader, Johnson has tripled Hoover's budget. Hoover was fearing

00:36:04.820 mandatory retirement by Robert Kennedy, the Attorney General, in 1964. He hated the Kennedys.

00:36:11.460 I don't think that the FBI was actively involved in the plot lube. But we do know

00:36:16.020 that a telex went from the FBI to every FBI station in the country identifying Lee Harvey Oswald

00:36:23.860 before Lee Harvey Oswald had even been apprehended. How is that possible?

00:36:28.420 We look forward to talking to you further and continuing our discussion of the assassination of JFK,

00:36:35.860 the mystery that still persists thanks to the good offices of the United States government.

00:36:41.940 And Roger, we appreciate all that you've done to clear a little of the, well, more than a little,

00:36:49.220 a lot of the evidence and give us your judgment on just who did kill Kennedy. And we are delighted to

00:36:56.500 have your insight on our current political situation, which seems at some points darker than others.

00:37:05.860 But we know there's a bright horizon awaiting us, or so we hope. Roger Stone, thanks for being with us

00:37:12.020 here. And we want to tell everyone, The Man Who Killed Kennedy, Roger's book, The Case Against LBJ,

00:37:19.140 is our featured book on loudobs.com. And you can go to the website and buy it there. Again,

00:37:27.460 thanks to amazon.com. Roger Stone, thanks for being with us.

00:37:32.660 Thank you, Lou. God bless you and Godspeed.

00:37:35.220 Thanks to Roger Stone, a great American. Thank you for taking the time to be with us today.

00:37:40.500 Our guest here tomorrow is the former Capitol Hill Police Chief Steven Sund. He has a lot to say about

00:37:46.980 January 6 and what then Speaker Pelosi did to him. Be sure to join us and follow me on Twitter and

00:37:53.780 Truth Social at Lou Dobbs and on Facebook and Instagram at Lou Dobbs tonight. We hope you'll

00:37:59.220 join us back here tomorrow for The Great America Show. Until then, thanks, God bless you, and God bless America.

The Great America Show - July 10, 2023

WHY WON’T McCARTHY IMPEACH？

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