The Great America Show - WILL CONGRESS DEFUND SPECIAL COUNSEL？

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00:00:30.000 Hello everybody, I'm Lou Dobbs and this is The Great America Show.

00:00:34.040 Thanks for being with us in these dark days of the Republic.

00:00:37.020 The Marxist Dems and Rhinos taking victory laps this week in the wake of President Trump's indictment and arraignment in the Mar-a-Lago FBI raid presidential document case. 0.87

00:00:48.680 The Marxist Dem mainstream propaganda media could barely contain their excitement.

00:00:54.400 They're not only a freak show, they have no qualms about conjuring pure fiction.

00:00:58.480 Here is CNN reporter Evan Perez with CNN's Jake Tapper just moments after President Trump had left that Miami courtroom.

00:01:08.720 Evan, what can you tell us about, without mind reading obviously, the president's mood?

00:01:15.580 He appeared very glum.

00:01:17.400 He did not seem to have a lot of energy.

00:01:20.120 Once in a while was twiddling his thumbs.

00:01:22.320 Again, had his arms folded.

00:01:24.060 It was certainly, you know, we've seen him sometimes when he's irritated, when he's not exactly very comfortable and happy inside a room.

00:01:33.020 That is the look we saw there seated at the defense table inside this courtroom, packed courtroom, by the way.

00:01:40.000 Initially, the U.S. Marshals and the clerk told us we were going to be limited to about 20 seats inside that courtroom along with members of the public.

00:01:48.640 Like they actually had very few members of the public actually show up there to be in the room.

00:01:54.320 And they ended up taking about 40 reporters inside this very packed courtroom, Jake.

00:02:00.640 And so, you know, we're all, of course, eyes glued to the former president.

00:02:05.160 And it's certainly the look of a man, you know, like you and I have seen, when he's not happy, when he's not, when he's irritated sometimes.

00:02:14.840 He has that folded arm sort of looking around and not quite the energetic thing that you sometimes see when he's at his rallies and when he's sort of very happy about how things are going.

00:02:27.460 Wow. What was Perez watching?

00:02:30.800 And a reporter who can read minds? That's more than yeoman work. 0.77

00:02:34.960 Reporting on the president's thoughts and emotions, reading those from afar, even for a CNN reporter and anchor.

00:02:42.540 By the way, CNN, in my opinion, has a lot of work to do to become a fair and balanced objective network, as their owners say they mean it to be.

00:02:51.900 We'll see.

00:02:52.720 The Marxist-run propaganda media, not the only ones barely containing their excitement, add to that list a number of hopefuls running for the Republican presidential nomination.

00:03:03.640 Only one rose to Trump's defense, Vivek Ramaswamy.

00:03:08.160 Ramaswamy was the only contender as well in the race who went down to the Miami courthouse and spoke out about the corruption of our country's Department of Justice.

00:03:17.740 Here he is outside the courthouse.

00:03:19.540 We live in a 1776 moment in this country.

00:03:23.700 This is not about 2023 Republicans versus Democrats.

00:03:29.020 That's why I sent this letter to two Democratic candidates, Marianne Williamson and Robert Kennedy Jr.

00:03:35.480 I expect them to respond the same as I expect the Republican candidates to respond, because this isn't about Republicans.

00:03:42.820 This isn't about Democrats.

00:03:43.980 This is about who in a constitutional republic actually determines who the leaders of the country are.

00:03:50.660 In our country, it is we, the people, who make that decision, not a federal police state.

00:03:55.880 That is why we stand on the side of truth.

00:03:58.140 We will not stop till we get answers.

00:04:00.140 And we will be standing up for truth at every step of this campaign.

00:04:05.080 While Ramaswamy was defending truth, justice and President Trump, here are some of the other 2024 contenders, neocons and rhinos who couldn't get over their ambition and instead took the Biden regime's side spewing pure evil.

00:04:20.880 Let's begin with former National Security Advisor John Bolton.

00:04:25.700 If he has anything like what the complaint, what the indictment alleges, and of course the government will have to prove it, then he has committed very serious crimes.

00:04:36.040 This is a devastating indictment.

00:04:38.480 I speak here as an alumnus of the Justice Department myself, because not only is it powerful, it's very narrowly tailored.

00:04:46.060 They didn't throw everything up against the wall to see what would stick.

00:04:48.900 This really is a rifle shot, and I think it should be the end of Donald Trump's political career.

00:04:56.340 And here is RINO, former Vice President Mike Pence.

00:05:00.920 The handling of classified materials is a very serious matter, not only from my years as Vice President, but also my years on the International Relations Committee.

00:05:11.580 And look, I had the chance to review the indictment over the weekend, and this indictment contains serious charges.

00:05:18.900 And I cannot defend what is alleged.

00:05:22.840 I will tell you, not only as a former Vice President, but also my son's a Marine.

00:05:29.620 My son-in-law is a Navy lieutenant.

00:05:31.320 I mean, the very prospect that what is alleged here took place, creating an opportunity where highly sensitive classified material could have fallen into the wrong hands, even inadvertently.

00:05:43.600 That jeopardizes our national security.

00:05:46.260 It puts at risk the men and women of our armed forces.

00:05:49.460 And as I said, I can't defend what is alleged, but the former president has a right to his day in court.

00:05:56.320 What's happened to Mike Pence?

00:05:58.740 And here is RINO Chris Christie being Chris Christie.

00:06:03.460 I don't think that most Republicans support the conduct that's detailed in that indictment.

00:06:07.760 It's reckless.

00:06:08.900 It's harmful to American national security.

00:06:11.940 And it doesn't show the kind of judgment that you need to be an effective president.

00:06:16.680 And we're in a situation where there are people in my own party who are blaming DOJ.

00:06:21.500 How about blame him?

00:06:25.240 He did it.

00:06:26.540 He kept he took documents he wasn't supposed to take.

00:06:29.140 He kept it when they asked him back for them.

00:06:31.800 They got a grand jury subpoena.

00:06:33.580 He refused to comply.

00:06:35.260 They raided his home finally because he refused to comply.

00:06:38.740 That all of the things were brought on himself.

00:06:40.440 And last but not least, the former secretary of state, former head of the CIA, Mike Pompeo, who owes a lot to President Trump.

00:06:49.780 But he apparently forgot that.

00:06:51.900 If the allegations are true and there's lots of indications that they are, President Trump had classified documents where he shouldn't have had them.

00:06:58.780 And then when given the opportunity to return to me, he chose not to do that for whatever reason.

00:07:02.660 That's just, Brian, you talked about me having classified documents.

00:07:05.460 I handled thousands and thousands of them over my time in Congress and then as a CIA director and secretary of state.

00:07:11.460 I suppose we can all make mistakes and get them to the wrong place.

00:07:13.840 But when somebody identifies that, you've got to turn them in.

00:07:16.120 And so that's just that's inconsistent with protecting America's soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines.

00:07:20.620 And if the allegations are true, some of these were pretty serious, important documents.

00:07:24.680 And so that's wrong.

00:07:26.280 Pompeo's inability to stand up for the rule of law, the Constitution and President Trump is sad.

00:07:32.460 Instead, he allied himself with the left.

00:07:34.680 He is disloyal to President Trump.

00:07:37.220 He's aligned with the Marxist Dems who are seeking to destroy Trump.

00:07:41.820 Joining us now is Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna.

00:07:45.280 She represents Florida's 13th Congressional District.

00:07:48.380 She sits on the House Oversight Committee, the committee led by Chairman James Comer, investigating the Biden crime family.

00:07:55.800 Congresswoman Luna introduced a resolution in Congress this week to censure and fine Congressman Adam Schiff for his pathological lying.

00:08:04.160 The procedural vote, believe it or not, failed with a vote of 225 to 196, 20 rhinos voting against the legislation.

00:08:15.460 Representative Luna, it is great to have you back with us here on The Great America Show.

00:08:19.920 Let's start with, do you believe Congress has the unilateral power to defund these corrupt government organizations and individuals going after their political opponents?

00:08:30.440 If you look at what even just happened to President Trump and with the indictments, I mean, we have our tools here in Congress, right?

00:08:39.080 Like a majority of it is being able to defund certain positions and controlling the power of the purse.

00:08:43.860 But if we're not going to use these parliamentary procedures, if we're not going to be actually putting, you know, teeth behind the statements that we make on national television, then we're no better than the other side.

00:08:55.720 And granted, I know a lot of people are like, well, you know, the legislative body is too divided right now.

00:09:01.440 But the problem is, is it's divided because for too long, so many people have been quiet and allowed bad things to take place.

00:09:08.340 And when you allow a certain level of corruption, it ultimately ends up infecting the entire institution and then it's completely not functioning.

00:09:14.700 And so all we're doing is trying to bring accountability and honor back to the House of Representatives.

00:09:20.420 Well, we have seen much of what you're describing in previous Congresses.

00:09:24.520 It is to your credit, to the Freedom Caucus, to the to the brave or mighty 20, if you will, led by Andy Biggs, who have made it possible for members to have real representation of their constituents before.

00:09:45.540 Let's be honest, it was 435 souls marching as in the direction of Paul Ryan or are not marching at all.

00:09:53.860 So to this point, I think McCarthy has done a very good job until until the debt ceiling compromise there.

00:10:05.220 Obviously, there's a great deal of reporting now about the split between a large group of conservatives that hasn't been mended.

00:10:14.980 What are the prospects?

00:10:16.020 Well, you know, I think that in regards to exactly what I was just stating earlier, you know, we have this power to control funding that goes to different agencies.

00:10:25.160 And when you see a gross weaponization, for example, of the FBI, you know, I'm on House Oversight.

00:10:31.580 My goodness, Lou, they just showed us a document in regards to the Hunter Joe Biden bribery scheme.

00:10:37.000 And they redacted information that Senator Grassley came forward with.

00:10:40.780 And it literally stated that they had they had a source that had 17 recorded phone calls, 15 of which were Hunter, two of which were with then Vice President Joe Biden on bribery schemes.

00:10:52.240 Representative Luna, we're coming right back with her.

00:10:55.000 And what is happening in the U.S. Congress and what in the world is happening to the FBI?

00:11:03.080 Who are they and who are they working for?

00:11:06.160 Stay with us.

00:11:06.800 We'll be right back after these messages.

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00:12:30.420 And we're back with Representative Luna.

00:12:34.720 And Representative, you were just talking about the issues with the so-called FD-1023 form for the FBI.

00:12:45.320 And Chairman Comer's efforts, the committee's efforts to get explanations about that document, to get it in your possession.

00:12:55.120 Tell us where we are now and what the travail has been.

00:13:00.620 So, as of right now, you know, last week I was able to go in with members of Oversight to read that document.

00:13:07.460 And then not even three days after the fact, we sign out from Senator Grassley that not only the FBI did they redact information, but they redacted some pretty damning evidence in that document that states the name of the individual who had 17 recorded phone calls,

00:13:24.920 two of which were of Joe Biden as vice president, 15 of which were from Hunter Biden in their joint $10 million bribery scheme.

00:13:34.920 And so, going back to what I was saying on the previous segment, you know, as a member of Congress, it's our job to, if we see that there's a gross overreach and if there's an abuse of power,

00:13:46.400 especially with some of these three-letter organizations, we should defund them.

00:13:49.820 And so, one of my biggest issues that I had with the recent debt ceiling fight and negotiations, of which I'd like to add that I was a no vote on,

00:13:58.680 is because of the fact that it did not seem that those negotiating understood how bad the weaponization has become on the American people.

00:14:11.040 And so, that was an opportunity missed.

00:14:14.720 And then you find out in the next two years, they're going to be printing and spending $4 trillion more that we don't have.

00:14:21.360 To me, that's not a win for America.

00:14:24.040 That's us running faster off the cliff.

00:14:26.700 And I just, the way I can explain it to people is that people up here would never, never, ever spend their personal finances the way that they're spending the American taxpayers' dollars.

00:14:38.160 And when I talk to other members, like Representative Verne Buchanan, who's to the south of me, who is also no vote, he's been up here for a while.

00:14:46.680 And he says, Anna, I've been up here and it's always the same thing.

00:14:48.940 They say that they get this great deal.

00:14:50.440 They go and they message it to the American people.

00:14:52.740 And guess what?

00:14:53.320 When I first came in, we weren't $32 trillion in debt or whatever the number is.

00:14:58.200 He's like, that is like times eight of what it was when I first came in.

00:15:02.460 And so, you know, it's unfortunate to hear that, but it's like if we continue doing the same thing, we're part of the problem.

00:15:08.580 So people should hold their elected representatives accountable.

00:15:13.020 And all I can say, Lou, is I am not doing this forever.

00:15:16.080 I don't want to do this for 20 years.

00:15:17.640 That would be something that I couldn't imagine doing.

00:15:20.560 But, you know, I'm going to make my time count one here.

00:15:24.040 Well, I applaud you for doing so.

00:15:26.540 And, you know, it seems straightforward that if the Republican Party can't find a proven, publicly recognized liar like Adam Schiff, if they can't take him through an ethics process and sanction him, how in the world will you people have the guts to actually hold the FBI accountable and and conduct effective oversight?

00:15:52.220 It's a preposterous proposition.

00:15:55.100 Whoever it is that's trying to find a reason not to vote for this, they're let's be real straight about this.

00:16:02.020 They're they're darn fools.

00:16:04.280 I'll say it that way.

00:16:06.320 I agree with you.

00:16:07.780 And I think that, again, it's up to people to make their voices heard.

00:16:11.880 So I'm really hoping that they end up, you know, doing the correct thing.

00:16:16.040 But I just any Republican who's going to vote to protect Adam Schiff after this, I just I absolutely question why.

00:16:23.200 It's I've made sure I've gone through absolutely every single legal process to ensure that this is not violate violating anyone's constitutional rights, that this is done in the most ethical fashion and is an accountability mechanism.

00:16:35.720 And to hear the opposite of that, I just it makes me wonder.

00:16:40.720 Well, it makes me furious.

00:16:42.640 And I hope that everyone listening, I will call everyone in their family, their friends, their neighbors, even.

00:16:50.280 Well, I won't even suggest passing strangers, but make representative and your senator understand what's at stake here.

00:16:57.760 If the Republican Party cannot sanction Adam Schiff for putting the president of the United States and the nation through pure hell with his outright lies, his deceit.

00:17:11.760 And by the way, with a deep state, the FBI, the Department of Justice, the White House, knowing full well from the time from the time this thing began under the administration of Barack Obama, it's just outrageous.

00:17:28.980 And if they can't hold that, they can't hold Schiff, as I said, representative, it's just it's beyond your you know, the party is, I think, effectively done.

00:17:38.740 The House has a great opportunity here to be the heroes and have been for five months.

00:17:44.140 But now McCarthy is once again put in play the integrity of the leadership, the integrity of the promises made to the American people.

00:17:54.880 And he has failed big time.

00:17:57.500 And I salute all of all of the representatives who are holding him to account right now.

00:18:03.720 This has to be fixed and it has to be fixed now.

00:18:06.460 You know, we appreciate it's it's taking great courage on your part.

00:18:11.220 You're you're a freshman Congresswoman standing there for five months. 1.00

00:18:17.280 And, you know, and why have others in your conference, Nat, had the guts to do the same thing?

00:18:22.460 Because he's been lying for a long, long time.

00:18:25.060 So we salute you for it.

00:18:26.700 And we wish you the the very best in your in your efforts.

00:18:32.260 You're give us your sense of your prospects for success.

00:18:35.900 So as of right now, two thirty is going to be a pretty big deal.

00:18:40.620 I have some of my Republican colleagues joining me that are supporting this.

00:18:45.660 And then behind the scenes, we've actually had multiple offices, some even of moderate members reaching out, saying, like, hey, how can we message on this to inform people and basically get the correct information out about what SHIP did, etc.

00:18:56.340 So we're going to find out again.

00:18:59.680 This is kind of a two part vote.

00:19:01.160 Right. The first one is, is that Democrats have sent out an email.

00:19:04.380 They are going to do something called trying to table this, meaning they don't want to let it come to the floor and they're going to try to kill it immediately.

00:19:11.140 They can only kill it if Republicans vote with them.

00:19:14.100 So we're hoping that Republicans do the right thing and don't vote with Democrats to kill this.

00:19:19.060 And then if that happens, it will come to the floor tomorrow at around 11 and we'll hopefully have our vote to censure and send Adam Schiff to House Ethics for investigations with a suggested fine of 16 million dollars.

00:19:30.740 And with that, we, you know, we want to wish you the best of success and the nation, the best of success.

00:19:38.420 And thank you again for what you're doing.

00:19:40.400 We're going to be putting up those numbers.

00:19:42.640 We'll be telling you about them at the end of today's podcast on where to call and get your representative in the know about where you stand and where you want the nation to stand with Representative Luna on the resolution.

00:19:56.960 We're coming right back with her in just a few minutes.

00:20:00.940 Make that a few seconds. 0.78

00:20:03.460 We'll be back with Representative Luna right after these quick words.

00:20:07.880 Stay with us.

00:20:14.200 And we're back with Representative Anna Paulina Luna.

00:20:18.440 And Congresswoman, I want to just say again, thanks for all you're doing for the country.

00:20:23.600 Let's take up the issue, if we may.

00:20:26.960 Of the Oversight Committee and the lies that have been put forward by the FBI to your committee as you seek to perform your constitutional responsibilities of oversight over the FBI, the Department of Justice, this government.

00:20:41.820 Give us a sense of how in the world there could be any question about turning over a document that an informant has, a whistleblower, has told the committee, Senator Grassley about.

00:20:53.860 Give us a sense of what is going on there.

00:20:58.820 Well, it seems as though that the FBI seems to think that they're not accountable to Congress, which is crazy because, as you know, we're the last line of defense.

00:21:07.720 We are the people.

00:21:08.860 And, of course, they're accountable to us.

00:21:10.260 But I believe it's because, again, going back to kind of how previous Congresses functioned and really, I think, how they've just kind of not chosen to do the right thing and fight for what's right.

00:21:21.020 We basically had to threaten, not we, Chairman Comer essentially threatened the director of the FBI with contempt of Congress charges.

00:21:32.120 And we were about to draw up the entire bill to do that, to bring it to the floor.

00:21:36.720 And then at the last minute, they said that we could see this document.

00:21:40.440 And then we come to find out that the document's been redacted with some very important information.

00:21:44.940 So the fact is, is that I have heard from other members.

00:21:48.880 I won't say the members yet.

00:21:50.400 But that, again, going back to kind of the parliamentary procedures and what we can do, we can technically vote to defund someone's position.

00:21:57.720 And, effectively, that would remove them from whatever appointed position they might have, even if it's from the president.

00:22:06.000 You can do that unilaterally.

00:22:08.700 Yes.

00:22:09.300 So that's called the Holman Rule.

00:22:11.240 And that's something that comes up during the appropriations negotiations.

00:22:14.880 And so I've actually heard other members talking about potentially doing that, not just for the director of the FBI, but in the case of Mayorkas, it can be done and a few others.

00:22:25.500 And so that's still, again, that accountability tool mechanism.

00:22:29.060 But it's like, you know, I sometimes get frustrated because I come up here, you know, we're up here during the week.

00:22:36.460 We get to go back home on the weekends sometimes.

00:22:38.500 But it's just like, why are people not doing this?

00:22:41.760 They have the toolkit.

00:22:42.880 You just have to do it, right?

00:22:44.320 And so you can work with your teams.

00:22:46.540 It's not hard to do.

00:22:48.340 Let me ask you this.

00:22:48.980 If you can do that with the secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, with the director of the FBI, I would urge you to consider the attorney general as well.

00:22:59.860 But why not the special counsel?

00:23:02.300 We don't even know who is on his staff as this man is carrying out the most atrocious act of political persecution in the country's history.

00:23:11.480 I did hear, I believe, and I could be wrong, but I did hear, I think that Representative Green was considering doing that, and she may have already started the process.

00:23:23.060 So I think that other people are starting to use these tools.

00:23:26.560 And mind you, Lou, these were some of the tools that the Freedom Caucus and the 20 negotiated for at the beginning of this year.

00:23:32.720 So we wouldn't have these tools at our disposal had we not negotiated the way that we did during the speaker's fight.

00:23:40.040 So this is kind of a whole different ballgame in Congress as opposed to the last one.

00:23:45.980 And so I think that we'll get some movement.

00:23:50.720 I know that there's also a privilege motion that Representative Boebert filed for impeachment of Biden, which is the same procedure that I did with Schiff.

00:24:01.960 And so that will likely also come to the floor.

00:24:04.260 And that was done, I believe, just yesterday.

00:24:06.360 So there's a lot happening right now.

00:24:09.000 And so I think it's just going to be, you know, courage is contagious.

00:24:12.080 And so we're hoping it happens in Washington.

00:24:14.400 Absolutely.

00:24:15.800 And I do believe that it is contagious, but it has to be a significant, powerful dose of medicine to get it going, if that's not a mixed metaphor.

00:24:27.660 Let me also ask you, why only Comer and Raskin are going to be allowed to see the two reference documents for the 1023 that you all have had the opportunity?

00:24:41.920 I presume you've seen the document.

00:24:44.960 Why would not the entire committee get to see those documents?

00:24:48.640 I think it's because, and I'm going to just go on an assumption here, but I think it's because, one, they both have subpoena power, whereas the other members don't.

00:24:58.580 And then, two, I, after reading the document, Lou, and seeing some of the stuff in it, I think it's, there's a genuine fear that the whistleblower and the human source might get killed.

00:25:09.820 And so I think that they're trying to, well, that was said to Chairman Comer per the SBI.

00:25:20.000 So the SBI didn't allude, but, you know, it is the Eastern Europe bloc.

00:25:26.020 There's clearly corruption.

00:25:27.860 You know, there's some pretty powerful people.

00:25:31.140 So you're describing the Eastern bloc or are you describing the federal government of the United States?

00:25:35.860 I, you know, I'm going to speculate here and think that it's probably some more, it's probably the Eastern bloc.

00:25:43.220 But at what I've kind of read, I, you know, I wouldn't put anything.

00:25:49.000 Yeah, I'll just stop there with my statement.

00:25:50.840 I just, I really think that it needs to be as secure as possible.

00:25:55.340 But as we're seeing now, I mean, it might come to an impeachment.

00:25:58.000 And if it's an impeachment, then Congress would conduct the preliminary investigation.

00:26:02.600 Representative Luna, I want to say to you, I have enjoyed this conversation immensely.

00:26:09.880 You give me great hope for not only the 118th Congress, but the future of the House of Representatives.

00:26:18.460 Your spirit is much needed in that conference.

00:26:23.000 Congressman Comer, Congressman Jordan are providing great leadership.

00:26:27.840 And I'm delighted to have the opportunity to sit down and talk with you.

00:26:31.540 I want to say as we wrap up here, my first reaction when I heard that the FBI was concerned for the life of this person is if the FBI, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the United States government cannot assure the life of a whistleblower or an informant under any circumstances with all the resources they have at hand.

00:26:52.440 And how could anyone ever possibly trust the FBI?

00:26:57.020 That is a failure of will.

00:26:58.900 It is also a failure of leadership on the part of the FBI and the DOJ already corrupted.

00:27:04.000 And I would just say to you, Representative Luna, you get the last word, as always, on this show.

00:27:11.280 Your concluding thoughts.

00:27:13.380 Thank you for your guys' support.

00:27:15.020 You can head over to my official channels at Rep Luna to find out more information on what I'm doing on the official side on Twitter and Instagram.

00:27:22.640 And then if you're on any social media, you can always head to my personal pages at Real Ana Paulina and see my commentary on what's happening in Washington.

00:27:29.800 Outstanding. Great to have you with us. Thanks so much.

00:27:33.900 And God bless you and Godspeed.

00:27:36.240 Thanks, Liz.

00:27:37.340 Representative Anna Paulina Luna, a great American.

00:27:41.100 That's it for us today.

00:27:42.480 Our guest here tomorrow will be Trump attorney Alina Habba.

00:27:46.500 Be sure to be with us for that.

00:27:48.420 Until then, thanks for being with us today.

00:27:51.060 God bless you and may God bless America.

The Great America Show - June 15, 2023

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