The Great America Show - WILL IT BE THE YEAR OF THE RINO OR WILL THE AMERICA FIRST REPUBLICANS BLOCK KEVIN MCCARTHY FROM BECOMING SPEAKER？

00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs. Welcome to the Great America Show. Great to have you with us.

00:00:04.960 I want to ask you to follow me on Twitter and Truth Social at Lou Dobbs. That's at Lou Dobbs on Twitter and Truth Social.

00:00:12.640 And with the new year will come the January 3rd vote for Speaker of the House, pitting the rhino Kevin McCarthy against the conservative and some more moderate members of the Republican Conference

00:00:23.660 and nearly all of the America First Republicans who don't want to capitulate to the establishment liberals, the rhinos, 0.95

00:00:31.540 and let a Paul Ryan picked and endorsed candidate take control of the Republican Party in the House.

00:00:38.000 The result would be an America First Republican conference led by an establishment rhino, 0.96

00:00:44.900 which means the Marxist Dems would control the House de facto, just as they do the Senate and the White House.

00:00:51.320 It would be an outright disaster for the Republican Party and, I believe, the nation.

00:00:57.380 And a continuing disaster on our southern border now, which the Marxist Dems have turned over to the Mexican drug cartels. 0.62

00:01:05.300 Tens of thousands of illegal immigrants are massing south of our border with Mexico,

00:01:10.780 about to join the millions of illegals who have already crossed into the USA over the first two years of the Biden administration.

00:01:18.440 It is now a disaster in the making, and neither party has done a thing to stop it, to reverse it.

00:01:25.240 Our guest today is a principled America First conservative congressman from the great state of Montana,

00:01:31.220 Congressman Matt Rosendale, who opposes rhino Kevin McCarthy for House Speaker,

00:01:36.360 who is backing Andy Biggs for that post, who sits on the Veterans Affairs Committee, Natural Resources Committee.

00:01:43.080 He's a member of the Freedom Caucus, the Border Security Caucus, and the powerful Republican Study Committee.

00:01:49.840 Congressman Rosendale, delighted to have you with us here on the Great America Show.

00:01:54.820 A matter of days before the new Congress is sworn in, as you well know,

00:01:59.180 and the vote for Speaker McCarthy versus Andy Biggs, who you support, is going to be a real battle.

00:02:05.160 How is that important, very important battle going?

00:02:10.240 It's going as people should anticipate it to.

00:02:13.380 We do not believe in a coronation here, and the conference demonstrated several weeks ago

00:02:19.200 that 36 of the members voted for someone else to represent them as the speaker,

00:02:27.860 to actually be the person who's going to be calling the balls of strikes and running the floor.

00:02:32.840 We put a document together, myself and several of my colleagues, months ago

00:02:39.660 and presented it to Mr. McCarthy and tried to get him to have conversations with us

00:02:47.480 about what we needed to do to restore regular order in the House of Representatives.

00:02:53.840 Lou, you, your guests, and everybody else across the country

00:02:57.880 has talked about Congress being broken for the last 15, 20 years.

00:03:03.100 And guess what?

00:03:03.720 You were spot on.

00:03:04.600 It is.

00:03:05.400 And we cannot continue to abide by the same set of distorted rules

00:03:10.500 that are being implemented by the same group of individuals

00:03:15.180 and think that we're going to have change.

00:03:16.960 So we have requested change.

00:03:19.700 And change is just that.

00:03:21.160 It requires change, and it's uncomfortable for a lot of people

00:03:24.440 because there's a lot of people that are invested in the system as it currently exists.

00:03:29.880 You certainly understand that, I know.

00:03:32.760 And so what we're asking for is not a radical deviation of process for the House of Representatives.

00:03:42.060 What we're asking for is a restoration of the House of Representatives

00:03:46.780 so that each member gets to participate on an equal footing as everyone else.

00:03:53.280 And so we've requested things as basic as single-subject legislation.

00:03:58.600 We have requested things such as an open rule process,

00:04:03.580 which means that each piece of legislation that is passed in a committee

00:04:08.480 actually gets to come out to the floor,

00:04:11.280 and everyone is able to propose an amendment as long as it is germane to the subject of the bill.

00:04:19.200 And instead of right now, what happens is the speaker determines what bills will actually come out of committee,

00:04:26.460 even though the committee has passed them.

00:04:28.000 They not all are going to be put forward to the floor.

00:04:32.060 And then when he takes those bills, he shares them with this super legislative group called the Rules Committee,

00:04:40.080 and they make the determination about who, which select individuals will be allowed to propose amendments on that legislation.

00:04:50.600 So if they say, Lou, you've been a good soldier.

00:04:54.260 You've voted with leadership.

00:04:55.900 You've passed all the big spending that we wanted.

00:04:58.900 We're going to allow your amendment to be placed on this bill.

00:05:01.500 But Rosendale, he's been a little bit difficult.

00:05:04.840 He's voted against all this wasteful spending and hasn't been supportive of government expansion.

00:05:11.340 We're not going to allow his amendment to come on.

00:05:13.640 And these nine people make those determinations instead of the body.

00:05:18.440 So to put it in business terms, you're on the business channel a lot.

00:05:22.460 It's like having those folks have Class A voting stock, and the rest of us, we're substandard.

00:05:31.060 We get Class B, Class C.

00:05:33.280 If you really are a firebrand, you might get Class D stock that you don't get to participate in the process hardly at all.

00:05:43.660 And we have asked for these changes to be made to restore that process.

00:05:50.900 And unfortunately, Kevin McCarthy has not been willing to relinquish his power, his control over that body that has been established over the last 15, 18 years.

00:06:03.400 And because of that, why would I vote to put him in?

00:06:09.500 I can't even imagine why anybody would want him in.

00:06:13.320 His record, it's very simple.

00:06:15.340 He has no performance record.

00:06:17.660 He's rhino-trained.

00:06:19.180 He's rhino-endorsed.

00:06:21.520 Paul Ryan, for crying out loud, thinks he'd be nifty.

00:06:25.040 I do not know what's going on with President Trump.

00:06:27.840 I was talking to him just days ago, and then the next thing I know, he's endorsing McCarthy and telling you folks to stand down.

00:06:36.700 Now, I'm kind of an independent cuss.

00:06:38.960 I'm going to tell the truth, and I'm going to tell people exactly where I am because they asked for my opinion and expect me to give an opinion and to back it up.

00:06:49.620 I don't understand at all why the American public wouldn't absolutely demand regular order, wouldn't demand the open rule, single-subject bills.

00:07:01.740 I mean, what on earth? 0.75

00:07:04.620 One of the reasons, folks, that we don't have oversight on the part of our Congress and our Senate is because of the ignorant rules that are in place 0.84

00:07:13.880 and the power that has been invested in the leadership of the Senate and the House.

00:07:20.140 Am I correct?

00:07:21.540 You are 100 percent correct.

00:07:24.300 And people walk around and they say, Lou, what we've got to have is unity.

00:07:30.660 We've got to have unity.

00:07:32.120 We can't have the Republican Party looking like they're not all agreeing with each other and then going to this next session.

00:07:39.180 That's, you know, that's not where I see.

00:07:42.540 If we're all in unity and we're all rowing the boat and it's going over a waterfall, somebody better stand up and say we've got to stop this thing.

00:07:51.380 I mean you don't have unity in the Senate right now, right? 0.80

00:07:54.100 But you've got 25 Republicans that just voted to advance a nearly $2 trillion crap sandwich over to the House of Representatives. 0.68

00:08:06.060 I don't need unity like that, okay? 0.95

00:08:08.440 I need people to stand up and say, as you just stated, what is right?

00:08:13.400 The emperor's not wearing clothes.

00:08:15.160 And if we can restore regular order, we're going to eliminate these 4,100-page bills that have trillions of dollars

00:08:23.240 and ungodly amounts of strange spending going on and allow people's voice to be heard.

00:08:32.320 You know, I get a kick out of thinking about the daffodils, the tulips, the snowflakes, whatever you want to call them,

00:08:40.640 in the Republican Party who used to complain about Trump's mean tweets.

00:08:46.080 Here's Mitch McConnell sending over a $1.7 trillion, moving a bill, $1.7 trillion omnibus bill,

00:08:55.820 and basically giving everybody a day, he'd like it done in a day, but two days, three days, to read 4,000, what is it, 4,115 pages. 0.99

00:09:05.740 You know, I mean, that's arrogance, that's mean, and that's stupid. 0.97

00:09:11.840 It makes everybody on Capitol Hill who's been elected to represent their state and their people and their district, 1.00

00:09:20.260 it makes them look like fools to go along with this. 0.98

00:09:23.220 This is, you talk about a communist system. 0.99

00:09:25.780 This is outright communism on the part of the Republican Party of all people.

00:09:30.560 It is, and Lou, to take it one step further, it shows how weak our leadership is as well,

00:09:38.680 because if they would hold this off for another, what do we have, 10 days left in the year, guess what?

00:09:46.600 The Republicans would be able to control the House of Representatives,

00:09:49.860 and if we get strong leadership in, we could dramatically change all of this.

00:09:55.560 But that's a big if, Lou.

00:09:58.180 That is a big if.

00:09:59.160 And so it gets left to people like me that are willing to stand up and say,

00:10:03.600 we've got to make changes, and change is uncomfortable.

00:10:07.580 But we're going to have to be tough, and we're going to have to be mean.

00:10:10.540 And as Clint Eastwood said in Josie Wales, when it gets bad, you've got to get mad dog mean,

00:10:19.040 because if you're not and you lose your head, you neither win nor live, okay?

00:10:24.200 We will lose it all if we don't toughen up right now and say, we are not going to tolerate this any longer.

00:10:31.920 That's what the people of Montana sent me to do, and that's what the people of many other states sent their representatives to do.

00:10:39.040 And God bless you for standing up, and I mean that.

00:10:44.040 Literally, God bless you.

00:10:46.200 The American people, the silent majority, I truly believe, you know, are deeply appreciative because they know this country is going to hell in a handbasket.

00:10:59.660 I love the fact that you've got a Republican National Committee chair.

00:11:05.700 She's been there forever, six years, and she hasn't won an election, yet she thinks she should have the longest term in office of any RNC chair in history. 0.65

00:11:15.400 Finally, somebody stood up.

00:11:16.920 This time it's Harmeet Dillon.

00:11:18.760 She's running against Ronna McDaniel.

00:11:21.280 And I'm telling you, if Ronna McDaniel is there again, there won't be another national election won by the Republican Party.

00:11:27.780 It's how bad it is because that's how bad the system is, the individual little corner of the swamp that the Republican Party owns.

00:11:36.880 And if Kevin McCarthy is there without acceding to the wishes of the primarily you and the Freedom Caucus about regular order, single subject bills, open rules,

00:11:50.460 then I think, I don't think 2024 is going to matter much because I don't think there's a damn thing the Republican Party could achieve.

00:11:58.200 What do you think?

00:11:59.580 I agree.

00:12:01.120 Look, and Harmeet, I've spoken with Harmeet.

00:12:04.000 She, she's a fighter, okay?

00:12:06.660 She is someone who identifies what the problems are and then starts working rapidly to resolve them.

00:12:14.620 She's a practicing attorney.

00:12:17.180 She's in her own right is a successful individual.

00:12:20.340 And that's what we've got to have.

00:12:22.280 These folks, again, to get back to McCarthy and leadership, his problem is he doesn't believe in anything except the next rung on the ladder for himself, Lou.

00:12:33.780 And he makes whatever deal is necessary to climb up by using other people's money, contributors, lobbyists, or taxpayers' dollars through legislation that he supports for his chosen few.

00:12:47.700 And that's why he is horrified of the motion to vacate because he'll promise you something today that may be negotiated away tomorrow to someone else for something else.

00:12:59.840 And the motion to vacate, I would assume that that is a condition absolute on the part of the Freedom Caucus, yourself and the others, because without that, you have no way to really hold accountable a speaker who's negotiated a deal.

00:13:20.700 I'll put it that way.

00:13:22.200 That is exactly right.

00:13:23.520 And here's the interesting thing.

00:13:24.960 Everybody, again, tries to act like that this is some terrible, radical request of the Freedom Caucus.

00:13:32.580 It was in place for 200 years.

00:13:37.240 And Nancy Pelosi did away with it because she was concerned that the progressives within her party were going to use it to remove her as speaker. 0.99

00:13:47.100 OK?

00:13:47.320 And now that it's been gone, see, this is how we've seen this consolidation of power over the last 15, 18 years.

00:13:54.180 One speaker gets rid of it, and the next one enjoys that exact same benefit.

00:13:59.260 And they have continued to consolidate, consolidate, consolidate.

00:14:01.980 We need to restore that because it is the only check on power that we have.

00:14:07.500 And the rumor that, well, Eric Swalwell can come out and use it and have the speaker removed.

00:14:14.220 Eric Swalwell's one vote.

00:14:15.800 He can come down there and request the motion to vacate the chair.

00:14:19.220 You still have to have a majority of the members to vote to remove them.

00:14:25.240 Mark Meadows used it, OK?

00:14:26.940 And everybody says, oh, Mark Meadows, Mark Meadows.

00:14:29.580 The last 30 days I've heard Mark Meadows' name invoke more around this town than it was when he was actually serving in Congress because he was the one who utilized the motion to vacate the chair.

00:14:42.040 So I continue to ask folks, so tell me something.

00:14:45.120 What was that final vote when they removed John Boehner?

00:14:50.200 And that's exactly what I get, crickets, Lou, because guess what?

00:14:54.740 There wasn't a vote.

00:14:55.860 Mark Meadows went down there and dropped it in the bin and said, I'm going to introduce this.

00:15:01.860 And by doing so, John Boehner had some serious self-analysis and said, I just don't have the support of the conference any longer.

00:15:10.480 And he resigned.

00:15:13.240 Yeah, and history was made.

00:15:16.840 And then Paul Ryan, the ultimate rhino, lined up with Romney in the 2012 Republican ticket.

00:15:25.980 They got their tails kicked.

00:15:28.380 And Ryan just didn't want any more contention.

00:15:31.740 And he wanted to take up all that K Street money.

00:15:34.980 And he said, but we've got to suspend that motion to vacate.

00:15:38.220 And so, as you said, power remains consolidated once it is.

00:15:43.520 I hope you guys just break it apart for the good of the nation first and for the good of the party, because the nation isn't going to last long if you guys do not move forward with the conservative agenda that will restore integrity and meaning to the word American.

00:16:06.560 And it's just a mess what we've got here.

00:16:10.400 We're watching a political party that has turned into the Marxist Dems who are trying to destroy this country.

00:16:18.880 And I have to say, Congressman, I don't know how many people in your conference.

00:16:23.900 I think there are still a lot of Republicans at your level and the Congress of the United States who don't understand they're at war, whether they know it or not,

00:16:34.600 at war, with a party that means to destroy them, the very institution they serve right now, and the people back home that they represent.

00:16:44.660 I agree with you.

00:16:47.160 They don't understand it.

00:16:48.500 The time for timidity and half measures went out the window a long time ago.

00:16:55.220 We have to have change.

00:16:57.020 Change is uncomfortable.

00:16:58.600 If you can't take this pressure, you should not be up here serving.

00:17:01.960 And I was placed here to restore our republic, our constitutional republic, and make sure that the people's voice is heard.

00:17:13.020 And if we don't start having more people join in this battle, then we're going to lose this precious gift that the good Lord himself blessed us with.

00:17:22.840 And again, I just want to say how much respect I've got for you and your fellow congressmen who are standing with you to confront McCarthy,

00:17:35.020 because he has become a symbol of what is wrong in first Congress and secondly in the swamp of D.C.

00:17:44.080 It just cannot pass this way without significant reform.

00:17:52.140 And I'm just so proud and grateful to you all for getting it done.

00:17:56.300 I want to turn real quickly, if I may, to the January 6th committee saying they're going to refer the president for criminal prosecution to a bunch of other Marxist Dems called the attorney general and a bunch of people in the DOJ and a special counsel.

00:18:09.520 My goodness. How silly and how how threatening can the Democratic Party be toward the Republicans without a response from you guys?

00:18:21.980 It's dangerous. This is dangerous territory, and I've been speaking for at least two years about my displeasure with the Department of Justice. 0.96

00:18:33.900 People over the last six years that do not have brilliant legal minds have witnessed a lot of crimes being committed.

00:18:42.880 And and they look at the Department of Justice and say, what is this terrible double standard that we are witnessing where you do not charge and prosecute these people after they have have committed crimes?

00:18:55.280 I mean, Ray Charles can see the problems that that we have witnessed over the last several years.

00:19:01.580 And it is going silent. And I, for one, have been very vocal about it.

00:19:07.200 And I appreciate you, Lou, helping us get the word out, helping us get the message out, because we're trying to amplify these complaints.

00:19:15.300 You want to talk about January 6th and charges?

00:19:17.760 What about the people that remain to this day locked up in prisons and were not granted bail?

00:19:25.320 I mean, the double standard that is displayed here is just it's just obscene and we have got to change it.

00:19:33.520 And the only way we're going to change that is to go through the Department of Justice and start removing people deep inside of the organization to make sure that we finally get down to the level where people are completely impartial and are just trying to do their job to uphold law.

00:19:54.160 Now, and within that omnibus, omnibus bill that you and I were talking about, tucked away in there is another, what, almost quarter billion dollars for further persecution of the poor, those poor fellow Americans who are sitting in those in those jails and prisons under the auspices of the Federal Bureau of Prisons.

00:20:14.820 Some of them, some of them, most of them not, haven't had a trial date set, haven't had charges in many cases brought this happening in the United States of America.

00:20:26.200 And these, these Democratic congressmen and women that sit on that January 6th committee, I mean, I don't know how they can look themselves in the mirror because they are as ignorant as any Soviet communist who ever conducted a Soviet show trial in the 1950s and the 1960s in Moscow. 0.74

00:20:50.940 Now, it's outrageous. 0.94

00:20:53.760 Look, it's like, it's like, it's like reading the Gulag Archipelago. 0.69

00:20:58.620 You know what I mean?

00:20:59.340 It truly is.

00:21:00.140 So within this, within this terrible omnibus, we've got $11.3 billion for the FBI, a 5% budget increase, $1.75 billion for the ATF, a 25% budget increase.

00:21:15.500 Listen to this, $7.5 million to better understand the domestic radicalization phenomenon.

00:21:27.020 That's what I call the mega MAGA study.

00:21:30.340 Okay.

00:21:30.800 $1 million for gun violence research.

00:21:34.560 Oh, man.

00:21:36.900 This is bad stuff.

00:21:38.960 It's bad stuff.

00:21:40.840 And you know what's equally bad, I think, is the fact that these Dems, these Marxist Dems, really have, are trying to fulfill President Barack Obama's promise, you know, 12 years ago now.

00:21:57.140 And that is to fundamentally transform America.

00:22:02.220 And I'll, I'll be warned if they're not getting a very good start on it, an open border to the South.

00:22:07.760 They've turned over that border on both sides to the Mexican drug cartels.

00:22:12.060 The FBI wants to talk about, you know, school board meetings instead of how, what to do about the violence and the deadly drugs brought over by the drug cartels.

00:22:23.080 The FBI is scared to death of them, apparently.

00:22:25.520 Right.

00:22:27.140 Well, that Southern border is really, to me, is such a national security problem that I do believe that we should tie the budgeting process and funding for security on our Southern border directly to passing the budget.

00:22:44.620 And if the Senate and the President aren't willing to sign off on that, I do believe that it is such a national security issue that that is worth shutting the government down over.

00:22:57.140 We've had 4 million people come into our country illegally during the Biden administration that have had encounters.

00:23:05.120 100 of them were on the terror watch list.

00:23:07.840 What about the 1 million gotaways, Lou, that came here sneaking through the dark of night?

00:23:15.000 We picked up on video surveillance.

00:23:16.820 I've been down there three times, which is more than Kamala Harris and Joe Biden combined, by the way.

00:23:22.300 These people are sneaking in in ghillie suits and carpet shoes and in the dark of night.

00:23:29.660 How many – that's a million people.

00:23:31.360 We don't know who they are.

00:23:32.360 We don't know where they are.

00:23:34.920 How many terrorists are in that group?

00:23:38.120 How many hardened criminals are in that group?

00:23:41.100 We've got major, major problems on that Southern border, and we're going to be experiencing problems from that for, who knows, the next 15 years.

00:23:51.760 And that's if we secure it today.

00:23:54.040 As President Trump used to say about the illegal immigration crisis in this country when he was actually doing something about it, 1.00

00:24:02.000 anybody who thinks that South, Central, Latin America, and Mexico are sending us their very best is a damn fool. 1.00

00:24:12.980 And we've got a bunch of damn fools in the Democratic Party who are insisting that they come. 1.00

00:24:19.940 It's just outrageous. 0.99

00:24:21.940 I want to say first that the J6 committee – we were just talking about it – this is really remarkable.

00:24:29.000 They want records sealed for decades.

00:24:32.740 They're as afraid of what will be revealed to the American people as all the folks in the JFK assassination.

00:24:41.200 Let's get some sunlight on everything, and let's rip those seals off of everything. 0.65

00:24:46.720 And this makes me just committed. 0.99

00:24:49.260 I'm going to find out every damn thing about this J6 committee and the fools who make it up. 1.00

00:24:55.300 We're going to find out everything. 0.99

00:24:56.960 I promise you, whatever it takes, we will find out.

00:25:02.400 Transparency is a good thing, Lou.

00:25:05.720 Absolutely.

00:25:06.680 What's the old saying?

00:25:08.060 Sunlight is a great disinfectant.

00:25:11.660 Yeah, it is.

00:25:13.440 I just want to say again, compliment you for what you're doing and wish you Godspeed and all the success in doing all that you are for this great country.

00:25:23.540 Congressman, if you will, we always give our guests the last word here.

00:25:28.660 So, Congressman Rosendale, if you will, your concluding thoughts.

00:25:32.000 My thoughts are that we've got some struggles in front of us.

00:25:38.560 It's going to be bumpy.

00:25:39.660 But I am certain that we're going to emerge out of this with a strong leader, with a united Republican Party, with a transparent process that is going to allow equal representation from the members of Congress across this nation.

00:25:57.380 And then we will begin to point the country in the right direction.

00:26:03.380 Congressman, thank you very much for being with us here on the Great America Show.

00:26:06.800 We wish you, as I said, all the best of luck.

00:26:10.120 God bless you for all you're doing.

00:26:12.440 God bless you, Lou, for all you're doing, helping us get this message out.

00:26:15.640 And stay careful.

00:26:19.140 And thanks for all your viewers.

00:26:21.060 Congressman Matt Rosendale, thanks for being with us.

00:26:23.720 And thanks, everybody, for following me on Twitter and Truth Social at Lou Dobbs.

00:26:28.360 That's at Lou Dobbs on Twitter and Truth Social.

00:26:31.460 Please join us tomorrow.

00:26:32.940 Till then, thank you for being with us.

00:26:35.300 God bless you.

00:26:36.460 And may God bless America.

The Great America Show - January 02, 2023

WILL IT BE THE YEAR OF THE RINO OR WILL THE AMERICA FIRST REPUBLICANS BLOCK KEVIN MCCARTHY FROM BECOMING SPEAKER？

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