WILL SPEAKER JOHNSON BE TRANSFORMATIONAL？
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After three weeks, the Republican Party has finally elected a new Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson of Louisiana. After taking the gavel, he made clear he s ready to restore the American people s faith and trust in the Congress. While the House was electing a new speaker, President Trump was back in a New York courtroom.
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Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs. Welcome to the Great America Show. Thank you for being with us.
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We did it. After three weeks, the Republican Party has finally elected a Speaker of the House.
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Congressman Mike Johnson of Louisiana elected the 56th Speaker of the House. After taking the gavel,
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Johnson addressed the House chamber and he made clear he's ready to get to work. He's ready to
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restore the American people's faith and trust in the Congress. I want to say to the American people
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on behalf of all of us here, we hear you. We know the challenges you're facing. We know that
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there's a lot going on in our country, domestically and abroad, and we are ready to get to work again
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to solve those problems, and we will. Our mission here is to serve you well, to restore the people's
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faith in this house, in this great and essential institution. I think all the American people at
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one time had great pride in this institution, but right now that's in jeopardy. And we have a
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challenge before us right now to rebuild and restore that trust. This is a beautiful country. It's the
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beauty of America that allows a firefighter's kid like me to come here and serve in this sacred
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chamber where great men and women have served before all of us and strive together to build
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and then preserve what Lincoln did refer to as the last best hope of man on earth. We stand at a very
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dangerous time. I'm stating the obvious. We all know that the world is in turmoil, but a strong America
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is good for the entire world. We wish Speaker Johnson the best of luck and hope he governs with an
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America first agenda. Godspeed, Mr. Speaker. Now that we have a speaker and one who appears to be just
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the leader the country needs throughout all of our government, the house is set to get back to
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business, and that includes continuing to expose the Biden crime family corruption, and the evidence
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is piling up. According to new documents obtained by Senator Chuck Grassley just yesterday,
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the FBI reportedly received criminal information from over 40 confidential sources on President Biden,
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Hunter Biden, and Joe's brother James Biden. Think about that. 40 different sources. The report says the
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FBI maintained those 40 sources on various criminal matters related to the Biden crime family. They date back
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to Joe's time as vice president. The informants were managed by a number of FBI field offices across the
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country, even as far away as Seattle. But Grassley learned that the FBI task force in D.C. ultimately took over
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and shut down all reporting and information from those 40 sources by falsely discrediting the information as
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are you ready for this as foreign disinformation. Sounds familiar, right? The FBI found something and they just kept
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using it. The corruption in the FBI is obviously pervasive. It is long lasting and it is from top to bottom. While the
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House was electing a new speaker, President Trump was back in a New York courtroom. And while on break, the president,
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President Trump spoke to the media. As he usually does, he called out Marxist judge, Arthur Ingeron,
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As you know, and I say it again and again, because I've never said anything like it, I don't get a jury.
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This was a trial should have never been brought, but if we had a jury, it would have been fair,
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at least, even if it was a somewhat negative jury, because no negative jury was brought against me.
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But this judge will, because this judge is a very partisan judge, with a person who's very partisan
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sitting alongside of him, perhaps even much more partisan than he is. So we are doing very well.
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And when President Trump arrived back in the courtroom from that break, he took the stand
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for about a minute and then Judge Ingeron asked him who he was referring to when he said, quote,
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the judge and the person sitting next to him are highly partisan, end quote. Trump said he's
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referring to the judge and Michael Cohen. The judge said Trump was not being honest in his testimony
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and fined the president ten thousand dollars and said that if Trump did it again, it will be much
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worse. This New York judge is acting as though he's mentally ill. Folks, he knows that he's abusing
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his power every day in court. This judge has gone way too far imposing a gag order, first of all, on
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a president who's the leading candidate for the presidency opposing Joe Biden and leading him in the polls,
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by the way. And this judge is interfering in the election by any definition. The judge might as
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well be presiding in a Soviet court. When does this end? Well, a new era in Congress. All 220
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Republicans today voted for Congressman Mike Johnson. You might ask, who is Mike Johnson? Well, he is now
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the Speaker, of course, of the House. Let's bring in our guest today as we talk about this new man
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in the third most powerful position in our government. Joining us is Congressman Andy
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Biggs, member of the House Freedom Caucus. And Congressman, as always, great to have you with
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us. Congratulations. Not a single Republican failed to vote for the new speaker. Your reaction to it all?
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Well, Lou, I'm enthusiastic. I'm optimistic. I always temper my enthusiasm and my optimism because I know how
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this place works. But this is the guy that I think can really actually has the potential to be a
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transformational type of speaker. I mean, he's got a conservative heart. He has tried cases
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at every level in the federal and state level to support life and families and stuff,
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the Constitution. He's articulate. He's smart. I came into Congress with him together. We've known
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each other. We've sat side by side on the dais and the Judiciary Committee since we came in. He
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defended Trump twice in two impeachment hearings. He's just really, he's got his work cut out for him.
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That's why that's the only tempering of my optimism. But he's the right guy for the right time,
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I believe. Well, that's encouraging for all of us to hear, especially coming from you, Congressman,
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because your values are clear, straightforward, American and constitutional. And, you know,
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I think about all any of us could have asked for. Well, personally, I wanted Jordan, of course,
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to be speaker. But failing that, I'm very hopeful that this man with his values will be, as you said,
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the right man for the time. I can't see why, you know, I can't see why we should have any problem
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in terms of his philosophy, his judgment. Now it's about leadership. What do you think?
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No, I think that's right. I think, look, the swamp is deep. It's filled with alligators.
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There will be people who try to undermine him every way he goes. And the good news is,
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I think he's going to respect the conservatives, you know, the Freedom Caucus, other conservatives in
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the conference. But he does it in such a way that even if you disagree with him, I think he's going to
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be able to woo some of our hardcore other side of the spectrum Republicans. And so he's got his work
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cut out for him. But we, on the conservative side, we have such a good relationship with him.
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I think we'll be able to help him where he needs help. And he's already set his agenda.
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We're already going to the floor to vote today, Lou. And that's when I saw him, excuse me,
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we talked to him last over the weekend. I said, Mike, if you become the speaker, I'm going to tell
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you, you need to get the Israel resolution to the floor immediately. And we need to go right into the
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debate. And then let's start on the two easiest appropriations bills, the ledge bill to fund the
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Congress, and then one on energy and water. Those are already out of rules. Let's do them.
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And he's already set those. We're going to vote, Lou, in not too long from now. And then we're going
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to go right into the debate on those other two bills, which we'll be voting tomorrow. We're back
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to work. Well, that is both, I think, great counsel and great to hear that that's the path that he is
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taking. Because now, coming straight at us, is November 17th and the end of that continuing
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resolution. And a lot of judgments have got to be made on appropriations, how you will deal with
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appropriations, and whether or not you will assert the power of the House of Representatives against
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the executive branch. Because if you don't, I believe we're going to be in the same
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Yeah, I agree with that. You know, Mike's a good friend, so I can call him up. And he doesn't,
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you know, nobody takes my advice, Lou, you know, they discounted. But what I would tell him is,
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is Bill Clinton set the example 20 some odd years ago, when Congress didn't want to get its job done
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on the budget. He said, okay, here's what we're going to do. We're going to do a continuing resolution
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one day at a time, until you guys get your job done. You don't need to do a 45, 65, 90 day deal.
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If you can't get your job done, okay, we're going to give you another day. And then we'll give you
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another day. And at that place, that wreaks havoc with the bureaucracy. They hate that. K Street,
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they hate that type of thing, Lou. But you know what happens? Congress has to get its job done. And when we
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do, we save the American people from an omnibus bill, we save them from a CR. That's what I would
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say. You may not want to do one day, but maybe do three days or a week or whatever. But you do,
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I'm not willing to even concede you do that until the House has all its bills out and into the Senate
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It's failure to act on the appropriations that you will, if you will, target against the federal
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government. You know, some of it's completely, I shouldn't say the federal government's, the Biden
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regime's idiotic policies and decisions that, and their rule by fiat. I've never seen the likes of
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this, Congressman. Neither have you, I know, because there's never been a president who just basically
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said to the American people, we're going to tell Congress to go to hell and we're just going to do
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what we want here and we're going to get away with it. And to this point, they've done just exactly
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that, haven't they? Yeah, they have. And that's one of the reasons I felt the motion to vacate was
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appropriate because, look, Lou, it isn't just that they told Congress that they're not going to do what
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we passed laws to do, what we've instructed them to do, or how we fund them. They told the courts,
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we don't care if you tell us what we're doing is unconstitutional. Lou, I actually, in a hearing,
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Secretary Mayorkas literally told us, he says, well, yeah, of course we have operational control
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of the border. So we showed him what the statute says. And he says, oh, no, we're not, we don't
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worry about the statute because we don't think anybody could ever do that. We've established our
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own definition of operational control. You know what that is? That's a guy who should be impeached
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he should not be sitting in that office. And we, you know, we've done precious little to hold this
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administration accountable and to exert our influence, which comes through the, through
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impeachment comes through the oversight process, and it comes through the check and balance of
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the purse strings. And if we don't do that, then of course, they're going to say up yours. We don't
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give a rat, whether the judiciary says, we don't care what the Congress says.
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We're talking with Congressman Andy Biggs, and we're coming right back with him. We'll be right
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We're back with our guest, Congressman Andy Biggs, a great American talking about a, well,
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a man who just got all of the Republican votes to be Speaker of the House. Congressman, it turns
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out Mike Johnson's going to be the most inexperienced in terms of terms in office, the most inexperienced
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speaker since 1883. You, I, your affirmation of everything about him sounds to me like experience
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No, no. What we have found out, Lou, is the more, more experience you have, and that means
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you've been here longer. That means more corruptible you are. I mean, the, the, the bottom line is
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the DC cartel is, is spinning around right now because, uh, you got Mike Johnson, who's not part
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of the DC cartel. Um, and that is exactly what I wanted is someone who was not part of the cartel,
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um, where a case streak doesn't own you, um, where, uh, the bureaucracy doesn't threaten you,
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where the, where, you know, and, and he's proven himself a fearless fighter, you know,
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taking on cases against Goliath the whole time. And he's been like David, but Lou experience in
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Washington, DC, that may not be the best, uh, resume builder. If you ask me.
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Well, I'm just thinking, as you're saying that, uh, I guess the solution could be six month term
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limits and, uh, 30 day CRs and we, we would have a functioning government. What do you think?
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I don't know if I'd go that far, but look, this is in the past 25 years, these guys,
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these guys have given us three year long CRs. And, and just so people understand what a CR is,
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that's where it's, you have one monolithic bill that takes everything and how you, how you fund
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the government and you throw it in one bill. That's how you get those three, 4,000 page bills
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and you never, ever reduce the size and scope of federal government because you can't,
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because it's just this blob that keeps going along. And so, uh, you know, that's why CRs are so bad.
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They are the worst. And that's why the swamp loves them. The swamp loves CRs.
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Right. Well, and the omnibus is, uh, you know, a thing of beauty to the military industrial complex,
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the establishment, uh, to corporate America and to all who feed at the trough of the federal
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government. Uh, it is, uh, it is, I hope what I'm hearing you say, but this is you correct me if
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I'm wrong is that we've got a chance for true reform here. Yeah, we do. It's an uphill battle
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because we have a thin majority and we also have, I mean, let's just face it. The, the,
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the swamp still controls a good number of my colleagues, right? They do. And they're going
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to fight this tooth and nail, but I'll tell you what we did though. We put a chink in the armor
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by electing Mike Johnson in the, in the DC swamp. We, we actually, we actually took a bit of a swipe at
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them. Uh, and we, we, you know, so we took, we actually got infrastructure, uh, changes last
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January, but Kevin wasn't going to follow those Mr. McCarthy, Speaker McCarthy. Then we get Mike
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Johnson. He is a conservative at heart and he can, and hopefully will follow all of those
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infrastructure changes. And if he does, we have a chance for some transformation here.
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Well, that's great. And that's encouraging. Uh, is he strong enough to take on the left and
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your judgment? Uh, that's, I guess the real question I'm getting to, is he strong enough to
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actually stand against the Marxist steps? I think he is. Uh, I think he is. I've watched him, uh,
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do that. He's very thoughtful. He's very bright. He's very articulate. He's very principled. So when I
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say that I've watched him on everything from, from, he, he joined my, my effort to decertify
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Arizona in the election of 2020. And, and in order to do it, I had to convince people that there was
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a constitute legitimate constitutional question. I did that. And he joined with us. He stood up,
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he stood up, um, for Donald Trump and the two impeachments that were just absolutely bogus. Uh,
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and he, he went toe to toe with, uh, crazy Raskin and Adam Schiff, uh, and, and Jerry Nadler every
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step of the way. And so, uh, yeah, I think he's demonstrated he can stand up to them.
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Well, that is great. And, uh, the motion to vacate, if I'm moving around here, but the motion to vacate,
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is it still in place or is that now cast aside? Still in place as we, as we sit here right now.
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Well, that is, uh, that's encouraging. And I think, uh, it'll, it'll be helpful, uh, to everyone.
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I think it's on one level, it, it may seem a little stringent to people, uh, but I think it's really
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quite a, quite a clear statement, uh, if you will, uh, what is expected cause and effect and
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consequences will have consequences, right? Yeah. I'm a big believer in that. And, um,
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look, everybody needs to, everybody gets held accountable. I try to be transparent with my
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district. Um, and, and I tell them what I'm going to do. And then I try to do that. And if they think,
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if they don't like what I'm doing, believe me, they let me know, they let me know. And, um,
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the same thing on this level, I don't know why anybody thought that it was an inherent right in
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some individual to be the speaker of the house in perpetuity, regardless of your performance.
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And so, so for me, it was like, um, it was time to do it. Um, and I do feel, uh, we're, we're,
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we're quite heaven blessed, quite frankly, because I think people, as they get to know Mike Johnson,
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they're going to say, Oh my gosh, what a breath of fresh air. Well, I can tell you your enthusiasm
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for him and your commendation of him makes me feel a hundred percent better, uh, about him and what
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the prospects are for the party. Uh, he has, you have, the Congress has one short, well, actually it's
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less than a year now, uh, to move forward with impeachment to, uh, accomplish everything you're
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talking about in terms of appropriations and, and moving ahead, uh, and, and actually doing
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something because the actual accomplishments of the 118th to this point are frankly disappointing.
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Uh, and here we are approaching November. Yeah, that's right, Lou. And that's, that was one of
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my objections, my colleagues objections with those of us who moved to vacate. Not only did he,
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did Mr. McCarthy mess up the, the debt ceiling. So we don't have a debt ceiling. Not only did he
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delay all the 12 appropriations bills, which violated his promise. So now, and then he was
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lobbying for a CR. Um, but what did we do? What did we accomplish? I mean, did we, we took down a,
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a, a federal gas rule, gas stove rule. I mean, is that, is that what you got to, to, to, to campaign
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on? That's absurd. There is so much this president is doing to take down this country and the Democrat
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left as attacking this country. There was so much more we could have done. And I felt like we were
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static and we had to make the change. I felt. We're talking with Congressman Andy Biggs,
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and we're going to talk about just exactly what Speaker Johnson must do, has to do, and likely will
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do, uh, in order to save not only the Republic, but the Republican party. Stay with us. We'll be right
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back. We're back now with Congressman Andy Biggs and Congressman, we're talking about the, the year
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that between now and the November 5th, 2024, uh, all that has to be done. Uh, what do you see as the
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first concrete, uh, uh, accomplishment that has to go on the board? Uh, to me, frankly, it is because
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of the circumstances, the test on November 17th, in terms of the budget. The second with our question
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is these investigating committees have got to produce results now and take, I mean, I do not
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understand. Help me. I do not understand why the man who is in the white house with obvious impairment,
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uh, with obvious, uh, corruption, uh, that, uh, you know, permeates the entire Biden regime hasn't
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been impeached already. Yeah. So I would say the first thing is, as you, as you pointed out,
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it's the budget. Um, we are in an existential crisis on a, from a budgetary front. The, the out of
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control federal spending is what's driving inflation, uh, which in turn drives inflation rates higher,
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which means that, that you move into a recessionary cycle with regard to homes, which drives a
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significant portion of our economy. So that's the good news is that, is that Mike is a speaker.
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Johnson is, is actually, uh, we're going to the floor. We're going to, we're going to debate some
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of those approach bills today, but he's got to get, in my opinion, um, we, we're going to have to get
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the rest of those bills, the last six bills after these two, we're going to have to get those done
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and out, um, probably within the next 10 days. And you put that over to the Senate and the Senate
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is going to drag its feet. They're not going to do anything. They're going to want to do an omnibus
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bill or massive CR. And Mike is going to have to say, no, we're not going to do that in the house.
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And that will be the first challenge to him will be how he deals with that CR that will come back from
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the Senate. And my position would be, you tell them, no, we'll, we'll, we're going to pass a two
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day CR, whatever it is, a short, very short term CR while we, while you guys determine whether you're
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going to do these bills. And, and, and I hate to even talk about CRs cause I've never voted for one,
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but, but you, you keep it under control if it's a day or two, because then you say, okay, um, that's
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the way it is. The other thing option is a shutdown. And by that time we will have funded a hundred
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percent of the government out of the house and it will be up to the Senate. And they'll be the ones
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that are shutting down the government, not us. And so, you know, a lot of my colleagues, that's
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anathema to them. They're very nervous. And Mike has to thread that needle very carefully. Then you
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talk about, before we get to impeachment, I will tell you what else has to happen, right? You have to
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then make sure that you've, you've, you've slingshot, slingshotted a new foundation for next year
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on the spending, because what the next spending has to do is you have to use the spending to
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leverage enforcement at the border, because Lou, we are in a crisis on the border. Like, um, I've
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never seen, I I've, I've never seen anything like it. It's a diaspora from, uh, uh, around the world.
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That's funneling itself right up to the Southern border. And it's, it's, they're releasing thousands
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of people into Southern Arizona now, just releasing them. Um, and this is national security
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issue. So he's going to, the way you're going to, he's going to have to do that. He's going to have
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to leverage the spending. And so that's why he's got to accelerate that, um, past anything that I've
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seen in the last 30 years, right? So it has to go, I haven't been here 30 years, but, uh, as,
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as one watching and looking at history, then, then I think we move into the, the impeachment and the
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oversight stuff that you're talking about. I know that the oversight committee, uh, was ready last
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June to advance to an impeachment inquiry, but we didn't get to that till when till September. Why?
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Because I believe that the former speaker was trying to leverage impeachment inquiry to try to get
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support for a CR. Um, so we missed opportunity after opportunity, and that's part of what's delayed it.
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But in the meantime, I was at a, uh, an interview last weekend, uh, last Friday. Uh, it's amazing
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the, the evidence that we have. The part of our problem is we've got so much evidence. You're
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trying to parse it out and, and, and use the most effective evidence, even though you have a mess of
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evidence. So we have to do that. I know that James Comer, I've talked to him, Chairman Comer,
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he's, he's got, he's prepared subpoenas for Hunter Biden, uh, Rob Walker, Eric, uh, Eric Swearen,
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some others, uh, that I'm trying to get subpoenas on that are an additionally related, uh, corruption
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on the part of the Bidens. And then Mike Johnson will sign off with him. I know that, uh, Speaker
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Johnson will sign off on those ASAP because he understands the corruption in the White House.
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Are you saying that, are you saying that Kevin McCarthy didn't, uh, wouldn't sign those subpoenas?
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I think he would have, he would have signed those subpoenas, but, um, he was trying to leverage
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the impeachment inquiry to get votes for his CR. That's my, that's my belief. I speculate on that.
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Well, defunding the special counsels, speaking of, uh, the appropriations process and, uh, taking
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control, uh, is that a priority for the, for the conference? Because of what the political
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persecution, the persecution of president Trump is, is outrageous and there's been no response.
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Yeah. Um, I'm going to, yeah, I've always been a straight shooter with you, Lou. I am there for
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that. I've offered amendments and stuff to that effect. Others have as well. We just think we can't
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get the votes out of the Republican conference to do that. That's what you need to know that. That's,
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that's the handicap that not just me, but the new speaker is going to be dealing with. Um,
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and I, and also don't forget that you've got speaker McCarthy, who I think, um, is, um,
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is still upset and raw that he's not the speaker anymore. So you got to, he's, this is, this is the
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stuff we got to deal with. We have to deal with it though. And well, you're the right man to be
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dealing with it. And we appreciate everything you're doing as you have always done, uh, representing the
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good people of Arizona and, uh, and the nation. Congressman Andy Biggs, thanks for joining us
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here today. Uh, we appreciate it. And, uh, as they say, you know, Godspeed and God bless.
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Yeah. Thank you, Lou. You too. Keep up the good work, my friend.
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Thanks everybody for being here today. Thanks so much. Our guest here tomorrow on the great America
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