The Great America Show - WILL THE GOP SURVIVE RINOS？

00:00:00.000 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Great America Podcast with Lou Dobbs,

00:00:04.200 always in the fight for truth, justice, and yes, our American way of life.

00:00:09.220 And now, here he is, the Peabody award-winning voice of truth, the great Lou Dobbs.

00:00:14.720 Hello, everybody, and welcome back to the Great America Show.

00:00:18.520 Here we always keep in view what a great nation America is and what a great people we Americans are.

00:00:24.860 Our perspective, obviously, the opposite of the left-wing national media and the Marxist left

00:00:30.500 that controls the Democratic Party and insidiously permeates now our schools from kindergarten through university.

00:00:38.780 Teachers in our public schools seem more energized by indoctrination rather than education of our young people.

00:00:46.700 But we are coming to terms, aren't we, with the threats that this nation faces,

00:00:51.300 whether from the left and the Democratic Party, or from within the Republican Party

00:00:56.380 and the RINOs who further empowered the Biden administration and its socialist agenda.

00:01:03.180 It may be more than socialist, but we'll leave it at socialist for now.

00:01:07.460 Thirteen Republican members of the House, 19 senators,

00:01:10.700 supporting the multi-trillion dollar spending plan of Mr. Biden.

00:01:15.000 And Biden's buddy, Mitch McConnell, the Senate Majority Leader, hailed that bipartisan legislation.

00:01:22.220 Thanks to his RINO stewardship, Biden was able to move this nation closer to being a debtor nation in perpetuity.

00:01:29.340 There's much political confusion raging through our body politic now, and no wonder.

00:01:35.160 We have a president and vice president who together have historic low approval ratings,

00:01:39.920 who insult the intelligence of American voters almost daily,

00:01:44.800 while blaming, for example, American consumers for supply chain disruptions.

00:01:51.260 President Biden is keeping our border wide open and importing poverty and uneducated labor

00:01:57.380 by bringing in what is estimated to be 2 million illegal immigrants in Biden's first full year in office.

00:02:04.940 Yes, these times are a bit confused.

00:02:07.020 But amidst these confounding times, there are rays of transparency and some great clarity.

00:02:14.340 With his recent indictment, special counsel, John Durham, is bringing facts to life to support

00:02:20.560 what many of us have suspected for years and some of us have actually known.

00:02:25.840 The Trump dossier was a fraud, a smear job organized by the Clinton campaign,

00:02:31.220 the Democratic National Committee, a leading Democratic law firm,

00:02:34.540 and, of course, the national left-wing media, obliging at almost every turn.

00:02:40.260 Chronicling the outrages against President Donald Trump,

00:02:43.880 the Federalist Web magazine has been amongst the most prominent news organizations

00:02:47.940 covering the Russia hoax, the attempted impeachments of President Trump,

00:02:53.040 the political carnival of 2020, and the presidential election beset by fraud, irregularities,

00:02:58.540 and still unanswered questions about how the vote was counted and by whom.

00:03:04.340 The Justice Department, the FBI, other investigative law enforcement agencies

00:03:08.980 chose not to investigate, not to inquire, and simply stepped aside,

00:03:14.340 leaving open the central and still red-hot political question,

00:03:18.120 was there sufficient fraud and irregularities in the 2020 presidential election

00:03:23.860 to have altered the outcome in favor of President Biden?

00:03:29.100 Joining us now, the founder of the Federalist Web magazine, Sean Davis.

00:03:34.200 He's also a great, great American.

00:03:37.340 He's also an entrepreneur, a journalist, a graduate of Texas Tech University,

00:03:42.260 the Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania.

00:03:44.440 Sean, with those credentials, we're especially delighted to have you here,

00:03:49.360 being a Texas Tech Red Raider.

00:03:52.420 Good to have you here.

00:03:53.840 Well, it's good to be here.

00:03:54.700 Thank you so much for having me.

00:03:56.420 Well, let's start with that red-hot question.

00:03:58.740 Will we ever know if there was sufficient fraud and irregularities in 2020

00:04:03.720 to have altered the outcome of a presidential election?

00:04:08.480 I actually don't think we'll ever know,

00:04:10.840 and it has to do with what I believe is the root of the problem.

00:04:15.600 So I don't, personally, I do not believe that the balance of power was changed,

00:04:21.620 that vote tallies were changed in the middle of the night,

00:04:24.340 or that voting machines were, you know, changing results and all that.

00:04:29.040 I actually think it was a lot more insidious than that.

00:04:33.320 And it mainly did with how all the rules of how we've done elections were changed,

00:04:39.020 you know, just a couple months before the election,

00:04:41.500 especially with respect to all the mail-in ballots.

00:04:44.420 So we had a system that was not really designed or prepared

00:04:48.560 to be able to handle securely all that influx of ballots.

00:04:53.460 You had, you know, in some states,

00:04:55.800 ballots being mailed to just any address they had on file.

00:04:58.600 There was reports all over of people getting, you know, six or seven ballots in their mail.

00:05:03.220 I think the moment that the Democrat Party and the Biden campaign were able to use COVID

00:05:11.000 to basically kind of sideline in-person voting

00:05:14.700 and move everything towards mail-in balloting,

00:05:16.960 where you're not really having to check an ID,

00:05:19.140 you don't know if the person who's filling out the ballot

00:05:21.260 is the person who's actually allowed to vote.

00:05:22.960 I believe that once that happened, not only had the die been cast really for what the results were going to be,

00:05:30.260 but also at that time, you kind of eliminated the ability to be able to go back in

00:05:35.060 and figure out which votes were legal, which votes weren't legal.

00:05:38.320 In some states, you had them throwing away ballot envelopes,

00:05:40.980 so you couldn't even compare the envelope with the ballot that was in there.

00:05:46.100 So I personally don't believe we will ever really know.

00:05:48.780 Maybe it was totally on the up and up.

00:05:50.360 Maybe, as the left says, it was the most safe and secure election ever.

00:05:54.060 I don't think that's the case, but I think just the nature of how the system was kind of manipulated,

00:05:59.280 we're never going to have in black and white and smoking gun

00:06:02.620 what the numbers were and what they should have been.

00:06:05.280 Yeah, I agree with you on your outlook for resolution and for answers.

00:06:12.540 And I do think the great shame of this is not that fraud was perpetrated.

00:06:17.560 It is not that irregularities occurred.

00:06:21.380 It is that, first, the Republican Party lacked the intelligence and the guts

00:06:28.460 and just simply the sense to be aware of what the Democrats were pulling off

00:06:35.660 in the year preceding that election using, as you said, COVID as a screen and a shield and a fog

00:06:44.280 in which to change election day to election months.

00:06:49.220 And the result was an election with the least oversight, I believe, of any election,

00:06:55.140 certainly in my memory and in my knowledge, ever occurring in this country.

00:07:00.260 Right. And it wasn't just kind of a Democrat versus Republican thing.

00:07:06.020 You also have to look at the role the courts played in here.

00:07:08.780 There were there were indications in Pennsylvania, for example,

00:07:12.660 where the courts just rewrote arbitrarily state law.

00:07:17.600 They rewrote things that were required in the Constitution for how elections have to be run,

00:07:22.600 namely that only the legislature can change these certain things.

00:07:25.220 And you had the courts just go in and say, yeah, we're not going to do any of that.

00:07:28.780 We just don't feel like it.

00:07:30.180 And, you know, come at us.

00:07:32.240 And then when either the Trump campaign or the party goes to the courts on the front end,

00:07:36.880 you had the court saying, well, there's no there's no injury yet.

00:07:40.080 So we don't you don't have standing.

00:07:41.560 There's no been not been an actual injury because we haven't had the election yet.

00:07:45.160 And then when they went back after the election, when they could show injury,

00:07:49.020 they said, oh, I mean, we already had the election.

00:07:50.680 So your points kind of moot it was the courts took a, you know, a tails.

00:07:56.200 They the other side wins heads.

00:07:58.540 You lose approach to it.

00:08:00.040 You even had it with the Texas case where you had Texas suing other states and the Supreme

00:08:05.480 Court, which is required by the Constitution to to adjudicate all disputes between states.

00:08:11.540 It doesn't say the Supreme Court can do it if it feels like that's the that's the original

00:08:16.640 court of jurisdiction for disputes between states.

00:08:19.220 They have to take it up.

00:08:20.220 And the Supreme Court said, no, we're not going to do it.

00:08:22.680 So it's to me, it's not just Republicans kind of being their typical feckless selves and

00:08:28.000 being outmaneuvered by them.

00:08:29.460 You had the whole system really engineered against anyone who thought anything that was happening

00:08:36.060 to Trump was maybe bad and might have really bad long term implications for the country.

00:08:40.180 And the Supreme Court had two opportunities to intercede and to, if not be an investigative

00:08:52.100 arm, but at least carry out its role as the supreme adjudicator of law and activities and

00:09:01.840 judge whether they're lawful.

00:09:03.520 It refused to do so.

00:09:05.700 It was if I think the word feckless moves now from an adjective for for Republicans to the

00:09:12.700 Supreme Court itself.

00:09:13.900 What do you think?

00:09:15.460 Oh, absolutely.

00:09:16.660 And we kind of see that time and time again with with the Roberts court in particular with

00:09:21.140 Roberts creating this idea in his head that the purpose of the court is to remain legitimate,

00:09:27.600 whatever that means, in the eyes of the public, rather than having the constitutional duty

00:09:32.700 to look at the law and the facts and do what the Constitution requires.

00:09:36.800 So what what happens there with him is what happened in the Obamacare case, where he apparently

00:09:42.760 knew how he was going to vote.

00:09:44.200 And then the left wing corporate media bullied him.

00:09:46.860 And then he ends up coming kind of on the back end with this completely tortured, incoherent,

00:09:52.980 internally inconsistent reason why Obamacare was legal.

00:09:56.940 This is a guy who said he can be he's shown that his court can be bullied into doing certain

00:10:03.620 things with certain political outcomes by the corporate left wing media.

00:10:07.240 And I think we saw that same dynamic play out in a lot of these election suits.

00:10:12.740 And I'm not talking about the ones about like Dominion or vote stealing or whatever.

00:10:16.500 I'm talking about very grave constitutional issues about who in this country is allowed to

00:10:22.180 set the rules for elections.

00:10:23.580 It ain't the courts.

00:10:24.620 It's the legislatures.

00:10:25.720 And clearly the legislatures had their authority usurped and the Supreme Court just kind of

00:10:31.900 said, yeah, whatever.

00:10:33.660 That's hugely problematic, regardless of which party it helps or hurts.

00:10:37.740 Right.

00:10:38.020 It was stunning.

00:10:39.760 But as you suggest, to be stunned by Justice Roberts' ability to torture both the law and

00:10:50.400 the facts, we should, I suppose, have been stunned.

00:10:54.420 But when you see him become subtly an advanced semanticist who can turn the word tax into a fee

00:11:04.200 and then do double backflips to get to where he wants to be in the outcome of that case, the

00:11:11.980 Obamacare case, it's just a mark on the court that will last, I guess, forever.

00:11:20.680 You know, we're talking about the GOP leadership.

00:11:24.320 It was happy to leave the questions about the 2020 elections.

00:11:28.800 And like so many others in this country, just let it all be buried in the dustbin of history.

00:11:36.260 But suddenly, a man many of us had given up on after two and a half years of investigation,

00:11:43.260 suddenly arises and special counsel John Durham is indicted not only Democratic lawyer David

00:11:52.480 Sussman, Igor Danchico, operative of the Brookings Institution, and Kevin Clinesmith.

00:12:00.000 My goodness, we now have before us a foundation for judging the facts of the origins of Russiagate,

00:12:12.040 just as John Durham was supposed to.

00:12:15.120 Were you amongst those stunned at what we've seen develop over the last days?

00:12:22.640 Yes.

00:12:23.140 So I hadn't given up on Durham yet, although I was getting to be a little despondent.

00:12:27.240 He clearly moves very deliberately and at his own pace.

00:12:31.060 What really shocked me about the Sussman indictment, now Sussman was an attorney for the Clinton

00:12:36.620 campaign in DNC, who was part of a scheme to go in and defraud the FBI about a bunch of

00:12:44.060 lies about the Trump campaign in Russia.

00:12:46.660 So the Sussman thing and then the Danchenko one, the Sussman indictment to me came out of

00:12:53.000 absolutely nowhere.

00:12:54.500 I followed every little twist and turn in this thing.

00:12:56.900 I thought I knew all the cast of characters.

00:12:59.220 Obviously, I knew that he had testified in the House and that he had some kind of role,

00:13:03.580 but he was not at all on my radar as someone who might be in legal jeopardy.

00:13:10.440 So the way that indictment was written, both for his alleged lies to the FBI and the case

00:13:17.940 that it laid out for the whole Alphabank story being a complete Clinton campaign concocted fraud

00:13:23.500 from the beginning, the detail there, I was stunned by.

00:13:27.320 And then he comes with the Igor Danchenko, the indictment.

00:13:30.820 This was the guy who is Christopher Steele, Clinton campaign subcontractor's primary subsource

00:13:35.460 and the alleged source of so many of the sensational claims, which are all fabricated in the dossier.

00:13:41.500 The specificity and the details and the facts in that indictment, including the fact that a Clinton campaign surrogate,

00:13:48.940 a former Clinton presidency appointee, a former State Department official, was one of the people feeding lies to Danchenko.

00:13:56.100 That blew me away because, again, that guy, his name is Charles Dolan, was this Clinton campaign surrogate.

00:14:01.740 He was on no one's radar, no one.

00:14:05.020 So to read that specificity and how Durham kind of told the story of the dossier, it was quite a read.

00:14:14.220 And what I find most interesting is when you look back to when that original Inspector General report came out on the FISA stuff

00:14:21.440 and what they did to Carter Page, Michael Horowitz, the DOJ IG, it said,

00:14:26.360 all this stuff was bad, but I looked into it and I still think the whole Crossfire Hurricane case was properly predicated.

00:14:33.140 And when that came out, you had both Attorney General William Barr and John Durham issue statements saying,

00:14:40.260 we do not believe that that is the case.

00:14:42.340 And so I think that's the big thing that we're still waiting from Durham.

00:14:47.000 He has already put a marker down saying, I don't think that case, even from the beginning, was properly predicated.

00:14:54.100 And I think each little indictment he's doing is putting meat on the bones of that claim.

00:15:00.200 But I'm looking forward to him telling that entire story, because once that's out,

00:15:05.640 we know that everything from the whole 2016 campaign Russian collusion thing

00:15:11.620 was a lie from beginning to end.

00:15:14.000 So I'm eager for him to continue and hopefully soon complete his work.

00:15:18.920 Well, you're reporting at the Federalist.

00:15:21.560 I highlighted something that I completely missed, and that is the reference to

00:15:26.140 Biden administration, the president's national security advisor, Jake Sullivan,

00:15:31.440 being referenced in the Durham indictment of the Clinton lawyer, Michael Sussman.

00:15:40.760 I mean, what is happening here?

00:15:46.700 How much jeopardy is he in, in your judgment?

00:15:48.980 So I, you know, two weeks ago, I would have said probably none legally, you know, legal jeopardy.

00:15:56.020 But having seen the Sussman thing and then now reading about what happened in the Dan

00:16:01.280 Shinko indictment, I don't know.

00:16:03.240 Maybe he is.

00:16:04.240 My inclination is not, because in each of these different indictments and arrests, you had

00:16:11.260 Kevin Kleinsmith, the FBI lawyer who fabricated claims in a FISA document in order to spy on

00:16:18.040 Carter Page.

00:16:18.840 You had Sussman lying to the FBI about who he was actually working for when he brought

00:16:23.780 these fake claims about AltaBank to the FBI, who's working for the Clintons.

00:16:27.500 And then Dan Shinko lying to the feds repeatedly about a whole bunch of stuff.

00:16:31.720 Each one of these allegations has to do with lies that an individual told to a federal law

00:16:38.880 enforcement, either body or agency.

00:16:41.540 I'm not aware of Jake Sullivan having walked in a bunch of nonsense to the FBI, authenticated

00:16:48.940 and said, this is all true.

00:16:50.760 Now, if he did that, I think he very much would be in legal jeopardy.

00:16:54.600 And again, I don't know what John Durham knows, and he clearly knows way more than I do.

00:16:59.060 So maybe he is in jeopardy, but my guess is probably not.

00:17:02.000 I think there had to be exposure and interaction between individuals and the FBI in order for them

00:17:08.560 to be at risk at this point.

00:17:11.140 Well, give me, give us your judgment as to how far has John Durham advanced the refutation

00:17:20.160 of the lies of the Democrats, in particular on Capitol Hill, as they went after President

00:17:30.320 Trump, two attempts at impeachment and overthrowing the president from the office.

00:17:37.320 It is now an established wide conspiracy to attack a sitting president of the United States

00:17:45.700 by a principal party of one of the two major parties in this country.

00:17:52.280 Is it not?

00:17:53.800 Absolutely.

00:17:54.440 And I actually think it's even worse than that.

00:17:56.000 I almost kind of accept that the other side in a campaign or the loser after campaign is

00:18:01.240 going to do whatever they can to screw over the person who beat him.

00:18:04.140 Um, what I find most horrific, distasteful and awful for the long-term survival of the

00:18:10.700 Republic is the FBI's role in it.

00:18:12.940 You know, specifically James Comey, uh, who held this completely fake briefing for Trump

00:18:19.580 on allegations, which they all knew were false, uh, for the purpose of leaking it in order

00:18:24.380 to legitimize a document that everyone knew was nonsense and couldn't be legitimized.

00:18:29.120 Um, so you have Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Page, Clinesmith, that to me is absolutely horrific.

00:18:37.680 Um, but to your question, you know, what, what does this do to kind of cement the reality

00:18:42.360 of what happened?

00:18:43.140 Well, to those of us who follow the facts, it's, I mean, it's a, it's a completely damning

00:18:47.780 indictment of that entire organization.

00:18:49.260 But the problem is, you know, you don't control what most of the country hears in the news.

00:18:54.640 I certainly don't.

00:18:55.920 Um, that, that job is held by the New York times and the Washington post, uh, NBC, CBS,

00:19:02.220 MSNBC, CNN.

00:19:03.880 They're not telling the truth about what's happening.

00:19:06.200 They spent years bleeding about collusion and all these allegations.

00:19:09.380 And the second we learned that all these allegations were nonsense, they're nowhere to

00:19:13.000 be found.

00:19:13.520 So as far as, you know, the long-term public perception of what actually happened, uh, I

00:19:19.120 don't know if it's going to change or not because of the power of these corrupt media

00:19:23.540 companies have to just lie to their audience for the sole purpose of helping the Democrat

00:19:28.820 party.

00:19:29.880 I couldn't agree with you more.

00:19:31.900 And for, uh, what I call the corporate left-wing media, uh, I, I don't think most people, uh,

00:19:39.060 really appreciate the degree to which this is a, uh, a corporate enterprise, uh, whether

00:19:46.280 it's, uh, AT&T, it's ownership of CNN, uh, Comcast, it's ownership of NBC and all of

00:19:53.660 its, uh, uh, uh, ancillary, uh, networks, including in MSNBC and CNBC and the list goes

00:20:01.640 on or CBS Viacom and CBS news, Disney and ABC, uh, Jeff Bezos, the world's second richest

00:20:11.200 man, uh, ownership of the Washington post, Carlos Slim and others who have concentrated

00:20:17.360 ownership of the New York times.

00:20:19.040 This is, this is extraordinary.

00:20:22.140 This is, these are oligarchs in control of our principal news media in this country.

00:20:27.980 And people go about their days thinking blissfully, this is an independent, uh, press.

00:20:33.720 What utter nonsense, don't you think?

00:20:36.440 Absolutely.

00:20:37.160 So much of the information we're, we're fed is controlled by tech oligarchs.

00:20:41.800 Uh, and a good example is Mark Zuckerberg.

00:20:43.940 If you say things he and his little minions don't like on Facebook, they're going to ban

00:20:48.400 you.

00:20:48.660 For example, we have the Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Wisconsin.

00:20:51.060 If you tried to go and post a link to his, uh, GoFundMe to help fund his defense, and by

00:20:57.000 the way, everyone in this country is entitled to defend themselves in courts of law.

00:21:01.100 They're entitled to have attorneys and to be able to pay them.

00:21:04.500 And Facebook went and shut that down.

00:21:07.300 That, that it, to me, it's unconscionable.

00:21:08.900 And it's not like the Zuckerberg is some disinterested observer.

00:21:12.500 You had him throwing out 450 million some odd dollars, uh, during the 2020 election to

00:21:18.620 privatize election offices in key States and counties, uh, throughout the country.

00:21:24.160 You had his people going in to various election bureaus, finding ballots that they thought

00:21:29.720 would be for Democrats and might have some problems with them and going and curing them

00:21:34.200 and leaving alone all the ballots that they thought might go to Republicans alone to be

00:21:38.220 disqualified.

00:21:38.960 So you have these oligarchs buying up control of our election offices, uh, controlling the 1.00

00:21:44.520 information that we see.

00:21:46.120 It's, it's a recipe for disaster.

00:21:48.060 And it's certainly not the country I grew up in.

00:21:50.600 And I know it's not the country you grew up in.

00:21:52.240 I remember on the playground when I was growing up and you'd get in arguments and fights and

00:21:56.660 kids would say, if someone got mad at him, well, I can say whatever I want.

00:21:59.740 It's a free country.

00:22:00.980 I don't feel like it's the same country anymore.

00:22:03.700 Well, and I'm sure you and I also, uh, suffer, uh, have suffered the consequences of, uh, trying

00:22:12.120 to speak the truth as often as we, uh, uh, felt, uh, obliged or, uh, are responsible.

00:22:19.060 Uh, the fact is, you know, I've gotten used to, uh, to consequences when I speak truth.

00:22:25.400 I don't think most of the country, uh, has.

00:22:28.220 And the, the fact of the matter is, uh, there's a, there's a little ray of sunshine over at

00:22:35.680 the Washington post.

00:22:36.520 I want to close, uh, in this conversation.

00:22:39.300 Uh, and that's Eric Wimple, uh, the, uh, Wimple, uh, the Washington post media critic

00:22:45.740 actually suggesting that those who use the dossier in this business, the journalists, uh,

00:22:53.400 fine folks from the mother Jones, MSNBC, you know, Rachel Maddow, the McClatchy newspapers.

00:23:00.400 Did I mention CNN?

00:23:01.680 Uh, it, it, it's really stunning that he acknowledged the problems created for those, uh, papers and

00:23:10.860 news outlets, including the Washington post.

00:23:13.260 Uh, I give him great credit because he says they have a lot of, uh, I will paraphrase.

00:23:20.380 They've got a lot to account for your, your reaction.

00:23:24.220 Absolutely.

00:23:24.860 I mean, these, these are institutions and individuals who received Pulitzer prizes, the

00:23:29.540 highest award in all of journalism, uh, for their reporting on Russian collusion.

00:23:33.760 And it turns out the reporting was all nonsense.

00:23:36.420 It was all lies.

00:23:37.820 Everything they reported were lies fed to them, uh, by partisan operatives, either in the government

00:23:43.240 or on campaigns.

00:23:44.420 Uh, it tells me that the spirit of Walter Durante, uh, is alive and well, if these people, if these

00:23:50.680 institutions had any shame, any sense of ethics or self-respect, they would return those Pulitzers 1.00

00:23:57.040 immediately and they would burn every single source that fed them lies for years and years

00:24:02.740 and years.

00:24:03.120 And it's telling to me that not a single one of them has done that.

00:24:06.640 And, uh, I'll even go farther if I may.

00:24:10.460 They, they should be launching huge investigative teams right now to dig in to, uh, Russiagate

00:24:18.920 the origins of the Russia collusion hoax, uh, and renew their efforts to, to satisfy the

00:24:27.460 public's right to know and to correct, correct the history, at least the last five years of

00:24:32.600 history.

00:24:33.340 Uh, I think that's really their obligation here.

00:24:36.200 Don't you?

00:24:37.280 Absolutely.

00:24:37.620 And then they'll never do it because they're not actually journalistic organizations.

00:24:41.100 They're Democrats, super PACs with bylines, broadcast licenses.

00:24:45.080 And Sean Davis, co-founder of a terrific, terrific, uh, web magazine called the Federalist.

00:24:53.300 And it, uh, it's worthy of the title, its content and its energy and, uh, all that it does to,

00:25:00.360 uh, uh, honor the public's right to know.

00:25:03.880 Sean, thanks for being with us.

00:25:05.400 Enjoy the conversation.

00:25:06.500 Hope you'll come back soon.

00:25:08.280 Oh, it was an honor.

00:25:09.060 Thank you, sir.

00:25:09.880 Thank you, Sean Davis.

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00:25:20.320 If you and I have anything to say about it, but under the Biden administration, we, well,

00:25:26.020 we've got a little less freedom to say anything at all.

00:25:28.920 At certain times, it's clear that President Biden and Vice President Harris are on a course toward

00:25:34.620 outright disaster.

00:25:36.040 They're authoritarian by nature and training and would prefer to rule by edict or fiat issuing

00:25:42.940 mandate after mandate, executive order after executive order without, of course, justification

00:25:49.360 or explanation to the American people.

00:25:52.060 Their legislative agenda is simply a catastrophe for many Americans.

00:25:57.840 Biden has now signed $3 trillion of spending into law.

00:26:02.060 And of course, no one knows what's precisely in that spending legislation, but we do know

00:26:07.100 that it will significantly add to our already $30 trillion national debt.

00:26:13.160 Biden and Harris have put this country on track to be a debtor nation forever.

00:26:18.500 However, Biden administration's withdrawal from Afghanistan is simply an outrage.

00:26:23.920 It's an insult for everything the country stands for.

00:26:27.380 His inability to speak coherently or find his way into or out of a room without assistance

00:26:33.600 is embarrassing enough.

00:26:36.040 But after the climate meeting fiasco, he's become a global laughingstock, appearing to fall

00:26:41.380 asleep in the midst of those meetings he had told all of us were so important.

00:26:46.220 And then it was passing wind, apparently in the presence of the royal family.

00:26:53.400 Kamala could hardly speak of anything else, we have been told.

00:26:57.920 As Mr. Biden would say, come on, man, give us all a break.

00:27:02.380 And certainly not that kind of break.

00:27:05.260 The ineptitude and rank ideological fanaticism of the Biden administration is, of course, ignored

00:27:11.700 by nearly all of the left-wing media, but not the American people.

00:27:16.660 The most recent USA Today poll shows Biden's approval rating has plummeted to 38 percent.

00:27:23.600 And he's been in office not even a year.

00:27:25.760 And the American people are quite obviously fed up with his antics and inadequacies.

00:27:31.880 And as bad as his poll numbers are, his vice president's numbers are even worse.

00:27:36.840 Vice President Harris's approval rating in the same USA Today poll plunged to, are you ready,

00:27:43.540 28 percent, a historic low for any vice president in the modern era.

00:27:49.740 She was the least popular Democratic presidential candidate back in 2020. 1.00

00:27:54.520 And now she's even more unpopular than her unpopular boss. 0.97

00:27:59.280 We don't have to ask why those numbers have plunged.

00:28:01.940 It's evident.

00:28:02.800 They seem committed to destroying the nation with their feverish advocacy of Marxist radicalism

00:28:08.880 and the outright lies that flow constantly from the Biden White House.

00:28:14.220 They don't like to talk much to the news media, not even the left-wing news media.

00:28:19.400 But fortunately, they can't hide from all of us.

00:28:21.980 And amongst those investigating the Biden administration, their open border policies,

00:28:26.660 their open arms to human smugglers that will result in 2 million illegal immigrants entering

00:28:32.900 the United States this year.

00:28:34.880 And of course, investigations into the Russia collusion hoax.

00:28:39.400 The organization Judicial Watch is prominent among those organizations committed to discovering

00:28:45.560 truth and revealing the facts.

00:28:48.080 Judicial Watch is led by its president, Tom Fitton.

00:28:51.820 He's a conservative activist.

00:28:53.360 And Tom, it's great to have you with us here and to talk once again.

00:28:58.500 Let's talk first those numbers.

00:29:00.640 President Biden at 38 percent and Kamala Harris at 28 percent.

00:29:09.580 Extraordinary.

00:29:11.080 It is.

00:29:11.980 And those numbers are, despite having all of the big media in his back pocket, Lou,

00:29:18.300 first of all, it's good to be back with you again.

00:29:21.160 Great to have you here.

00:29:21.860 Yeah, and I was glad to hear your opening statement, which was pithy and honest as always.

00:29:29.320 You know, he's come in as one of the weakest presidents in recent memory in the sense that

00:29:33.740 you have half of the country question his election.

00:29:38.600 He's barely controlling Congress.

00:29:41.000 As you highlight, he's got all these cognitive challenges.

00:29:43.860 And he's got all these personal corruption issues.

00:29:48.200 What he's governing is if he's Ronald Reagan in his second term.

00:29:52.320 And he doesn't have the mandate for that.

00:29:54.940 And so rather than kind of going for big majorities in terms of policies, he's taking this hard

00:30:02.800 turn to the left and the American people don't like it.

00:30:06.820 A hard turn to the left, and it certainly couldn't be much more left wing than pushing critical race theory,

00:30:17.640 driving restorative justice and psychoeducation, as Judicial Watch pointed out in Montgomery County schools.

00:30:25.300 It's stunning what they are up to, what the Democratic Party is up to, what the Marxist left is insisting on

00:30:34.760 and insinuating into schools, into government, into education.

00:30:40.700 It really is.

00:30:43.160 I mean, you know, taking it one step back, you've got Biden also having to manage the kind of the corrupt

00:30:48.320 corporatist wing of the Democratic Party, which is bipartisan in nature, as you know, Lou,

00:30:54.180 and the rising communist wing.

00:30:55.920 And to that end, you've got this fanaticism behind this repackaged Marxism known as critical race theory,

00:31:05.020 infecting all of our schools.

00:31:06.620 The real pandemic schoolchildren we should be worrying about in terms of schoolchildren is critical race theory.

00:31:13.000 And, you know, call it whatever you will, critical theory, critical race theory, climate justice.

00:31:19.000 Every left wing narrative is essentially has Marx behind it.

00:31:26.060 And they're lying because we're getting the documents showing that it is they're pursuing this fundamentally racist,

00:31:34.800 anti-American attitude.

00:31:36.580 I mean, in Montgomery County, you're pointing out in Maryland, one of the I'm still shaking my head at this one.

00:31:42.980 Montgomery County is the biggest school district in Maryland, for those of you not in the area.

00:31:47.440 And they've got this recommendation that teachers should be pushing anti-racist baby, right, by Abram Kendi,

00:31:55.480 one of the big promoters of critical race theory.

00:31:57.740 And they said it's great for babies to toddlers, to three-year-olds.

00:32:03.860 So they're pushing CRT on our babies, Lou. 0.71

00:32:08.060 Forget about adults.

00:32:09.380 It's bad enough for targeting children.

00:32:11.000 Now they're going after toddlers.

00:32:13.440 So, you know, this fanaticism, and as you pointed out, the totalitarianism of this movement knows no bounds

00:32:22.160 because, you know, it's in the word, totalitarian, it's total.

00:32:27.020 And it's global.

00:32:30.300 Your investigation into Fauci and the relationship with the CCP in China

00:32:36.860 and the public health agencies there that are the analogs to our own,

00:32:42.860 whether it be the CDC, the NIH, or virology labs like the one in Wuhan,

00:32:48.840 there is obviously a great deal of communication, a great deal of networking and concerted efforts

00:32:59.180 in the placement of Chinese officials and international health organizations, including WHO.

00:33:06.920 Tell us about that and what you've learned.

00:33:10.800 Well, you know, let's go back to the beginning.

00:33:12.920 WHO is an international organization, like most international transnational organizations.

00:33:18.800 They're controlled by the bad guys, and in this case, China. 0.97

00:33:23.240 So one of the first things that happened after it became known, that this China virus,

00:33:28.640 was WHO started collaborating with all the various countries, including China,

00:33:34.300 and they issued a press release on it, we found, on the international response to COVID.

00:33:40.360 And the release, it was noted in the documents, went out of its way to praise China.

00:33:47.280 And who signed off on that? Fauci.

00:33:50.700 And then later, as they're investigating China, China starts requiring, it looks like in the documents,

00:33:58.440 additional confidentiality terms for our government officials, Fauci's deputy, to go and investigate China.

00:34:05.880 Of course, they signed off on it.

00:34:07.200 And then when you look further back, you see this collaboration with China.

00:34:12.980 It's just like, it's jaw-dropping in the breadth and scope and length of how far back it's been going

00:34:21.820 in terms of the Chinese research agencies and research entities working with government money,

00:34:29.700 our government money, to do all sorts of biologic research, including, it's now confirmed,

00:34:36.920 thanks to pressure from Judicial Watch litigation, gate of function research.

00:34:41.860 And, I mean, when you see documents, I didn't know, did you know, Lou, that Fauci's agency had a person in Beijing

00:34:49.880 who was charged with monitoring what was going on there, including visiting Wuhan often.

00:34:57.900 And they were very nervous about what was going on in Wuhan.

00:35:00.660 And it's incredible.

00:35:01.520 They've got a spy operation running against Wuhan while giving them money at the same time.

00:35:06.720 Only, you know, Fauci's got a lot to answer for, I tell you.

00:35:10.220 But he's been brought to account, certainly.

00:35:14.960 He just straightforwardly and bald-facedly lied to Senate committees, in particular, Senator Rand Paul,

00:35:24.620 who challenged him straightforwardly and directly on the relationship between Fauci and the Chinese,

00:35:32.940 the NIH, the CDC, and those public health agencies in China, and the virology labs in Wuhan and around China itself.

00:35:44.540 Interesting in the material that, all of it's interesting, but it just drew my eye.

00:35:51.760 The reference in your FOIA on HHS regarding Fauci on the contracts there,

00:35:59.600 that they helped raise, quote, raise China's voice of governance

00:36:05.260 by placing representatives from China on important international councils

00:36:10.260 as high-level commitment from China, end quote.

00:36:13.700 It seems like a blathering rationalization suggesting that China was giving something up

00:36:20.260 in order for its officials, Chinese officials, to be placed on the World Health Organization,

00:36:27.840 whatever the agency might be.

00:36:30.060 Oh, well, you're kind of getting, there's a key detail that I think you may be missing,

00:36:36.600 is that this is the Gates Foundation helping China.

00:36:39.560 So we've got our people there talking with the Gates Foundation in China

00:36:43.360 about how the Gates Foundation is advocating for China on these,

00:36:47.720 as you point out, WHO and organizations like that.

00:36:50.840 I don't know what else you would describe as being international agencies

00:36:54.840 other than something like WHO.

00:36:57.340 So you've got Gates people, the foundation, according to this government document,

00:37:03.600 as I said, Fauci's woman in China was reporting back on her meeting with the Gates Foundation,

00:37:09.620 describing their efforts to lift China up.

00:37:13.000 It's extraordinary.

00:37:14.420 I didn't know about that.

00:37:15.820 Did you?

00:37:16.380 You always have it in your head.

00:37:17.940 They're always working with bad guys abroad.

00:37:20.440 But when they're admitting to government officials,

00:37:22.900 hey, we're actually advocating for Chinese government officials internationally.

00:37:28.720 It's like, whoa.

00:37:30.560 And of course, the big media doesn't want to cover this.

00:37:33.120 You know, they've been protecting Fauci.

00:37:37.520 And it goes back in the Trump administration.

00:37:40.700 Obviously, it's even worse during the Biden administration because Fauci is now seen as an avatar for Biden.

00:37:47.800 They're going to protect him no matter what.

00:37:50.400 Absolutely.

00:37:50.660 And to me, what is striking is that the Chinese have demanded that representation on WHO with the express complicity, 0.86

00:38:03.000 I would say assistance, but it's complicity from our public health agencies,

00:38:08.220 including Fauci, the NIH, the CDC, and the list goes on,

00:38:13.680 to the United Nations and placing the top officials of the WHO are all Chinese or Chinese-sponsored representatives of their policies.

00:38:27.280 It's really staggering.

00:38:29.220 And no one wants to report on this except for Judicial Watch and a handful of other folks.

00:38:36.020 Well, it's pretty clear that any biologic research the Chinese were doing was hand in glove with Fauci's agency.

00:38:45.880 I mean, when you look at the documents we've uncovered going back years and years,

00:38:50.740 you have to wonder what the Chinese were doing that didn't have government funding from U.S. taxpayers.

00:38:56.300 And when you look at the nature of this sort of biologic research,

00:39:01.860 I don't know if I'm using a technical term, but it's someone I can pronounce, which is biologic.

00:39:06.020 But you've got to wonder, you know, who's fooling whom here in the sense that is this defense-related work?

00:39:15.380 Is this biological warfare-related work?

00:39:20.300 It would seem to me you don't want to providing expertise in this area to our adversaries,

00:39:28.880 but that's what they were doing.

00:39:30.300 And, you know, as we've seen more recently, there's no doubt it was gate of function.

00:39:37.180 Yeah.

00:39:37.800 And striking is that in the midst of all of this, during the Trump administration, of course,

00:39:44.340 nothing was bolder or brighter or more animated than the Hillary Clinton-inspired Russia collusion

00:39:52.420 conspiracy with the deep state, with the law enforcement agencies, federal law enforcement agencies driving.

00:40:01.300 So here's, on one hand, you have the deep state represented by the public health agencies and Dr. Fauci,

00:40:10.360 working with the communist Chinese, but at the same time,

00:40:14.240 doing everything they can to smear a sitting president with charges of collusion that were utterly baseless charges of collusion with Russia.

00:40:26.540 It's a breathtaking irony and dichotomy, don't you think?

00:40:30.780 Yeah, I mean, you know, you had, and on top of that, you had Biden's personal relationship with China through Hunter,

00:40:41.960 where Hunter went on a trip to China on the vice president's plane at the time and engaged in business dealings that by the accounts of Hunter's laptop

00:40:54.160 and other independent witnesses benefited Joe Biden directly and personally.

00:41:01.760 So, you know, and, you know, when you look at it, it's pretty clear that everything they were accusing Trump of doing,

00:41:07.340 they were doing, but so much worse.

00:41:09.940 Having compromised business relationships with foreign countries, using the powers of government to,

00:41:16.400 and using the powers of government to advance those interests.

00:41:19.280 You know, the irony with Trump, I mean, with Obama, the Obama administration,

00:41:25.000 I mean, just look at how many countries they work with just to go after Trump.

00:41:28.300 You had the Australians, you had the UK, you had Ukraine, you had Russia.

00:41:37.120 And, of course, you had all of the intelligence agencies in the United States all going after Trump.

00:41:43.860 It's really incredible.

00:41:44.940 I'm glad to see Durham finally getting off his duff and doing something.

00:41:50.020 Boy, has he done something.

00:41:51.560 I mean, he's delivered two charges here.

00:41:54.040 But, boy, are they important, implicating the Democrat law firm.

00:42:00.840 And a Brookings Institution hack, if I can put it that way, who was a foundation for the farcical dossier,

00:42:16.480 a fraudulent effort created by the Hillary Clinton campaign and maneuvered through to the Justice

00:42:25.800 Department itself and the FBI by the friends of Hillary, if not Bill. 0.89

00:42:33.300 Yeah, the latest Durham indictment, you know, as alleged, confirms that the author of the dossier, 0.97

00:42:40.600 the key salacious falsehoods against Trump, is a liar.

00:42:45.940 He made it up. 0.93

00:42:47.100 He took a factoid, would add facts to it.

00:42:51.200 Like, for instance, Trump visited the Moscow Hotel, he learned.

00:42:54.480 And what did he do?

00:42:55.760 He added all the salacious sex allegations.

00:42:59.000 He pretended that every rumor and allegation he heard was fact.

00:43:02.700 He changed it all up.

00:43:04.580 And all of that ended up in these FISA warrants.

00:43:08.960 And so what I think is interesting here is that we've got, as you point out, the Trump,

00:43:13.440 the Clinton law firm, one of the two top lawyers, the guy who wrote the dossier for Christopher

00:43:19.420 Steele, who was on the payroll of the Clinton campaign.

00:43:22.520 So you've got the Clinton campaign really dead to rights here.

00:43:26.940 And the question is, how high up will Durham go?

00:43:29.620 But the next big step, it seems to me, is what is Durham going to do about the other side 0.99

00:43:34.620 of the legionary?

00:43:36.140 Which who, and if I'm the defense attorneys for Sussman and Don Jenko, I'd be like, well,

00:43:43.160 you know, how could we lie to our co-conspirators?

00:43:45.180 They all knew what we were up to, that we were lying on them.

00:43:48.960 They were lying on us.

00:43:49.860 And we all liked it because we were helping Hillary and going after Trump.

00:43:54.200 And so the question is, is Durham going to go after the FBI and DOJ for engaging with

00:43:58.900 these folks and pushing this, knowing it was a big, it was a smear and a falsity.

00:44:04.080 Yeah, we know, we understand clearly the connections within the FBI and the Justice Department and

00:44:13.440 the upper echelons of the Democratic apparatus in Washington, D.C.

00:44:17.800 They were working hand in glove to do the bidding of Hillary Clinton's campaign.

00:44:25.700 And we've known it for five years now.

00:44:30.480 Five, 2016, let's make it four years.

00:44:33.740 Yeah.

00:44:33.920 We know that they were framing the national security advisor of an elected president.

00:44:42.260 Right.

00:44:43.160 You know, in his first month in office, for crying out loud.

00:44:46.500 Uh, this is, it's, it's, it's breathtaking that we're still having this discussion on one

00:44:51.420 hand, uh, that it's necessary, but on the other, it is an, it's an extraordinary gift

00:44:59.280 that Durham has delivered, which is a reopening of, uh, these issues that the left has tried to

00:45:07.800 bury and to cover up and to just move on from, uh, now open because of that, uh, that indictment

00:45:16.080 and all that has unfolded around it, uh, we're, we're able to talk about a president who was

00:45:22.760 impeached not once, but twice who went through an almost two year special counsel investigation,

00:45:28.620 all because of the Hillary Clinton campaign and it's fraudulent, uh, efforts to overthrow 0.77

00:45:35.320 a president, uh, in concert with the deep state and the democratic party.

00:45:40.580 I mean, that's where we are now.

00:45:42.260 Is it not?

00:45:44.140 It is.

00:45:45.180 And unfortunately the Republicans gave up on the corruption issue, um, after Joe Biden came in.

00:45:51.080 Is there anything they haven't given up on just if, because I, I've missed it.

00:45:55.340 If there's anything that they have not given up on.

00:45:59.980 Well, they're, they're riding the CRT wave, whether it'll be substantive, um, work.

00:46:05.540 There is an open question, uh, but, uh, you know, Republicans win despite themselves.

00:46:11.760 I should say Republican leaders win despite themselves because, you know, in my view, the

00:46:16.620 Republican leadership has zero interest in these issues.

00:46:19.180 And that's one of the reasons we're talking about it five years from that five years after

00:46:23.120 the information should have been released.

00:46:25.400 I mean, we couldn't even get the Republican house and Senate to honestly investigate the

00:46:34.980 misconduct of, in theory, they're the, the opposite party, even if, even when Trump was

00:46:43.500 running the white house and the administration, that's how awful it was.

00:46:47.620 Well, and let's get credit where credits do.

00:46:50.320 Uh, one of the reasons there were so many problems in the early days of the, uh, Trump

00:46:55.820 white house is because the former head of the Republican national committee rights previous

00:47:00.460 was his chief of staff representing the establishment of the Republican party.

00:47:05.420 And if by extension, a good margin of that membership would be never Trumpers.

00:47:11.460 And currently the Ronna McDaniel, who is the head of the RNC, who assured everybody that

00:47:19.120 she had 2 million people in the field and that had everything under control and was

00:47:24.140 rolled, uh, you know, like a, uh, a boy scout at a, uh, you know, a boxing camp.

00:47:31.140 It was just, I mean, it's pitiful what we've witnessed.

00:47:34.640 And as you point out on CRT, what did it take for Ronna McDaniel and the RNC to take up

00:47:40.660 the issue?

00:47:41.660 It took Virginia and Youngkin victory there because school boards and parents decided

00:47:50.600 the hell with this.

00:47:52.360 We're not going to put up with it anymore.

00:47:54.380 With Terry McAuliffe representing the Marxist left saying, you know, parents really don't

00:47:59.840 have any place telling schools what they want their, their children to be taught.

00:48:04.480 I mean, it's outrageous trying to turn our heritage upside down in public education.

00:48:11.020 You know, and what I like about the Virginia story, um, is that that CRT issue was organic.

00:48:20.420 It was the people took the lead and politicians either, you know, got with the program in the

00:48:27.800 case of Youngkin or they were rolled over in the case of McAuliffe.

00:48:31.800 And it wasn't because of brilliant Republican strategy.

00:48:34.660 It was the parents.

00:48:36.600 They, they were outraged and, uh, there was a wave as a result.

00:48:41.180 So a lot of this, as I say, is, you know, are, are we going to have leaders that reflect

00:48:46.300 the, you know, kind of taking the bigger picture here?

00:48:49.240 And I'm going to advise politicians and vote parties because I'm concerned, you know, I'm

00:48:53.080 concerned that the communists are ruining a major political party.

00:48:57.500 I mean, it's in our interest to make sure the Democrats are just regular liberals as

00:49:00.820 opposed to communists.

00:49:01.780 We don't want that in a Republic is that, you know, do we have leaders in the political

00:49:06.240 class that reflect the will of the people or are they going to be antagonistic?

00:49:11.160 And, uh, you know, and I think to the degree they're able to reflect and, and in good faith,

00:49:17.240 uh, promote their views, uh, they'll do well.

00:49:20.400 And if they're seen on the wrong side, they get shellacked as we saw in Virginia.

00:49:26.240 Well, when you say you're, I don't know how much comfort I take from what I'm inferring

00:49:33.340 you're saying, which is you're worried about the democratic party turning into a bunch of

00:49:37.700 communists.

00:49:38.540 Uh, I, I, I'm more worried about the democratic party that is already led by Marxist leftists

00:49:45.260 and are absolutely antithetical in every part of their ideology, their philosophy, their

00:49:52.760 operating mechanisms as a political party and structure.

00:49:56.680 Uh, I, I, I'm trying to destroy America.

00:50:01.240 This is, this is not an abstraction.

00:50:04.160 I agree.

00:50:05.400 Are trying to rest control of school boards and, uh, from, and, and public education from

00:50:12.360 the hands of the parents and the people they elect to run local schools and education,

00:50:19.620 uh, it's, it's bald face, uh, a, a, a counter and, uh, a counter attack, uh, within, uh, the

00:50:30.560 education system.

00:50:31.800 I agree.

00:50:32.700 It's a revolutionary period we're in and, you know, when they see for the communists, they

00:50:37.780 don't see a repudiation, uh, last week, whether it be in New York or Virginia or Pennsylvania

00:50:44.020 or anywhere else, New Jersey, they see it as, uh, you know, when they, when elections

00:50:48.640 like that happen, they see it as confirmation that America needs, the system needs to be

00:50:53.200 overturned because the people aren't allowed to have a voice.

00:50:56.340 We can't have that.

00:50:57.280 That's their point of view.

00:50:58.700 Yeah.

00:50:58.740 We can't have objective testing because that they say that is racist, uh, and unfair,

00:51:05.040 which is, you know, pure balderdash, but people haven't got the guts to say directly

00:51:10.500 that this is nonsense and that it's got to stop.

00:51:14.900 I mean, I love some of the language that was tortured in the last few days.

00:51:19.300 Barack Obama says Donald Trump's nationalism failed the world on climate change.

00:51:26.660 Yeah. 0.99

00:51:27.840 Kind of moronic nonsense is that his nationalism it's populism. 0.99

00:51:33.060 And that populism means that the people will have power and demonstrate, uh, that power 0.98

00:51:38.820 just as they did in Virginia and almost in New Jersey, AOC comes out with more rhetorical

00:51:45.380 nonsense and semantic, uh, uh, gymnastics.

00:51:48.620 She says Republicans using woke the expression woke as quote derogatory euphemism for civil rights. 0.99

00:51:57.560 These people are utterly mad. 0.88

00:51:59.960 They're putting, they're putting out nonsense and spewing what is nothing more than, uh, 0.99

00:52:06.440 you know, asinine gibberish trying to take away accountability, uh, from them, from themselves. 0.95

00:52:15.320 Well, to outsiders, it looks crazy too, but if you're a communist, it makes perfect sense. 0.86

00:52:20.040 For instance, when they say, you know, the new Lieutenant governor, Ms. Sears in Virginia,

00:52:26.300 who's, um, African-American conservative, you know, they imply she's a white supremacist. 1.00

00:52:32.300 Now we laugh at that and rightly so.

00:52:35.320 I don't laugh at it, to be honest with you, Tom, but I think it's pure propaganda.

00:52:38.700 It's an insult to her and everybody who voted for her and her, her service to the country

00:52:43.780 already.

00:52:44.300 Well, I, I, I agree.

00:52:46.280 And my point is that they're being perfect.

00:52:49.260 That is internally consistent for the communist approach.

00:52:53.520 We don't understand how they can call a black person a white supremacist, but for the communists, 0.55

00:52:58.900 they believe unless you're with the program, you're the enemy.

00:53:03.320 Well, you know what?

00:53:04.860 They're right.

00:53:05.960 And, uh, by the way, they're making lots of enemies.

00:53:09.040 They're called the American people and they see in real terms, in vivid terms, what they

00:53:16.360 just tried to do with our school system.

00:53:18.420 And now the veil is gone.

00:53:21.960 The scales have dropped from our eyes and we know exactly what the left is trying to do.

00:53:27.080 They can't recover from this.

00:53:28.520 And if the Republican party led by Ronald McDaniel doesn't have, and Mitch McConnell, of course,

00:53:33.860 Mitch McConnell, who is cheering the bipartisan spending legislation, the infrastructure bill,

00:53:39.560 like some sort of, I mean, his fraudulence is overwhelming, frankly, but the Republican

00:53:45.540 party either finds new leadership or it dies.

00:53:48.880 I mean, I really believe that, but you get the last word here today, Tom.

00:53:52.620 Well, you know, all we can do is what we can do.

00:53:55.520 And, you know, this is, this is my critique of my allies in the house and the Senate, our

00:54:01.780 friends in the media.

00:54:02.840 It's like, are you doing everything you can do to save the Republic against, against this

00:54:07.520 rising communism?

00:54:08.460 And, you know, Lord knows judicial watch is doing what we can do and trying to do more.

00:54:13.600 Uh, but I tell you, this is a significant threat, uh, to our Republic.

00:54:18.340 Our Republic is tottering.

00:54:19.600 We didn't even get to the, to the border crisis.

00:54:22.360 Uh, but, uh, we need the leadership to step up.

00:54:25.280 And if the leadership won't step up, we need new leadership.

00:54:27.680 That's for sure.

00:54:29.680 Well said, Tom.

00:54:30.780 And, uh, as to the issues we didn't get to today, I hope you'll be back with us soon

00:54:35.560 and often, uh, here on the, uh, the great America show.

00:54:39.500 Uh, this podcast is dedicated to those issues you hold dearest as well.

00:54:43.880 Uh, so I hope you'll be back soon.

00:54:45.720 It's great talking with you and I wish you all the best, my friend.

00:54:48.620 Thank you, Tom Fitton.

00:54:50.520 Thank you very much.

00:54:51.320 Thanks for all you do and your leadership of judicial watch, the important work your organization,

00:54:58.640 uh, has accomplished for the country.

00:55:01.940 Join us again tomorrow for the great America podcast.

00:55:04.840 Stay in the fight.

00:55:06.040 Truth, justice, and the American way will prevail against all enemies, against all odds.

The Great America Show - November 20, 2021

WILL THE GOP SURVIVE RINOS？

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