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00:00:33.620Hello, everybody. Welcome to The Great America Show.
00:00:37.860The Marxist-Stimm's political persecution of President Trump has already backfired and big league.
00:00:44.340Within just 10 hours of President Trump being found guilty by a jury of Marxists, the Trump campaign announced that they raised $35 million for the president's re-election campaign.
00:00:57.820The inflow of donations are crashing the campaign website for a while.
00:01:04.240Not only was it a record-breaking number for any campaign in history, 30% of those donations came in from people who've never donated before.
00:01:16.780And if the record-breaking fundraising weren't enough to persuade you that the American people are fed up with the Biden regime and the Marxist Dems and their corruption,
00:01:27.140there's a new poll out that shows just that.
00:01:30.220Teledon, as the Daily Mail calls them, the most surprising number in that poll, 22% of those polls say they now have an even better opinion,
00:01:40.260a more favorable opinion of President Trump, since that corrupt verdict.
00:01:45.320The poll asking respondents to give their opinion on the trial, most saying it was a waste of taxpayer money and a railroad job.
00:01:54.300One Democrat saying he's no fan of President Trump, but the whole thing was ludicrous.
00:03:13.480This all boils down to one thing, election interference on the part of the Marxist Dems.
00:03:19.620They're trying to keep him out of the White House, as they did in 2020.
00:03:23.800Biden is losing on all sides, from all walks of life.
00:03:29.040And he and his Marxist Dems have only one thing left, that is to persecute and to steal.
00:03:35.700And that's what we'll be watching for.
00:03:37.620Our guest today, a man who's been investigating election fraud for many years, he says our election machine error rates violate federal law and says Bill Barr is partly responsible for fulfilling the Marxist Dems aspirations.
00:03:54.460And now with us, I am pleased to say, Harry Horry, and we're going to talk elections.
00:04:00.500We're going to talk about why we're having this conversation so near the upcoming presidential election and so far away from 2020.
00:04:12.700We're now talking about electoral integrity in this country.
00:04:16.880I haven't seen a lot done to assure that in this upcoming election.
00:04:22.400Yeah, there's several reasons for that.
00:04:26.320I mean, obviously, I was part of the effort to try to explore and understand what happened in 2020.
00:04:33.680Specifically, I was mostly working with Phil Klein and the Amistad Project, but as an advisor on cybersecurity matters and election conduct and operations, both of which I have a fair amount of experience in.
00:04:49.900So during that period of time, we discovered that there were, you know, many things not being done correctly.
00:04:57.420And the difficulty, though, is that many in the excitement and the frustration that people were feeling, we saw most of the election investigations and efforts concentrated on who won the election.
00:05:13.540And, in fact, the predicate for challenging outcome is very difficult.
00:05:22.900And you almost have to have proof ahead of time before they'll give you standing.
00:05:28.140So I'm not excusing what the courts did, but within the context of what they believe standing means and what precedence means, I understand what they did.
00:05:38.800And the issue really should have gone back to Bush v. Gore in 2000 when the challenge was about misconduct.
00:05:48.440Most people realize, of course, that Bush ends up winning the election, but it didn't start that way.
00:05:55.120It was a challenge of misconduct, a challenge of incorrect signature verification and incorrect counting of hanging chads and dimpled ballots with regard to the principal right, which is to have elections measure the intent of the electorate.
00:06:12.560And so what happens, though, is when the Supreme Court realizes or defines in their preliminary injunctions that the result of a different method of counting results in a different winner, they're in the box because now they have materiality proven.
00:06:29.760And because of this, they issue an equity decision that reverses the Florida certification or forces the Florida certification to George Bush in that particular contest.
00:06:47.240But this doesn't excuse the situation that we have a totally broken election mess and the fact that, you know, for whatever reasons, our DOJ and state officials seem to be loath to investigate and explore what really happened in detail, which is, you know, essentially I've dedicated my life for the last four years,
00:07:11.560having founded United Sovereign Americans with Marley Hornick to try to deal with the fact that we can prove rampant and massive misconduct.
00:07:24.900I've been testifying about a lot of things.
00:07:27.960I testified for Jeffrey Clark's disbarmentary trial, and I also was involved in the arrest of Eugene Yu in East Lansing, Michigan.
00:07:39.820And I was one of the first parties involved in trying to figure out how to determine what happened in Bethpage, New York.
00:08:14.660And what was the outcome of the court action that you were part of?
00:08:19.200So, the history on Connick is that True the Vote's investigators found a disturbing connection between the Connick software and a company that is a sponsored entity in China, in Zhengzhou province.
00:08:41.480And the fact of the matter is that they brought me in, True the Vote brought me in as a cyber forensics expert to look at the data they found and determine whether or not it raised a reasonable suspicion that there was a connection to the CCP in Connick.
00:08:58.620And anyway, we were called several, you know, a couple of us were called to testify at the grand jury in L.A. County.
00:09:54.380We were hired by L.A. County to do forensic capture, according to DEA and FBI standards, which we did.
00:10:05.560Then we reported what we found, which was a clear indicator of a suspicious and probable national espionage hit.
00:10:14.640We reported it because all of our investigators carry high-level security clearances with the DOD and other agencies.
00:10:24.540And this report was made to DCSA, which investigated it, reported it as a matter of urgent concern to the Department of Justice and FBI.
00:10:35.160And then the Department of Justice and FBI do nothing with the report.
00:10:38.720We're going to we're we're talking with Harry Howery and we're talking about what in the world is what in the world is the state of this country's election system?
00:10:54.080As we are now just about five months away from deciding who will be the next president of the United States.
00:11:01.660And do we have a system that has security and integrity for for millions of Americans to vote this time?
00:11:12.560We'll continue with Harry in just a moment.
00:13:11.240There was a great splash of publicity and focus on the company, which had apparently put together a lot of data, gathered a lot of data on election workers as well in their system.
00:13:29.560Tell us, were the case now, is the case still ongoing?
00:14:27.300You know, they get sued in Harris County, Texas, for, you know, participating in the truth and defamation.
00:14:34.140And I actually, you can find it on the web, entered an affidavit about what we found that was supposed to be filed under seal.
00:14:43.000But the judge and, you know, Republican appointee, actually, federal judge in Harris County, refuses to seal the things that are being submitted by truth of the vote because they think it's going to be embarrassing to them.
00:14:57.140In fact, I believe that this was a mistake.
00:14:59.940They didn't know that my affidavit lay out there like a landmine.
00:15:03.560But if you want to do a web search, you can find it.
00:15:11.440You'll just have to do a Harry Howery, true of the vote, conic search.
00:15:17.100I don't know that it was posted on true of the vote's website.
00:15:20.980I don't know if it's still in their ink.
00:15:24.460We'll pull it together and put it up under a very easy access and tell everybody about it.
00:15:31.480So the plain fact of the matter in the end is they dropped the lawsuit and unbelievably settled for $5 million of alleged misconduct by conic.
00:15:44.480The fact of the facts are the facts, though.
00:15:47.980The, you know, what we found were extensive connections between conic and, you know, actors in China that are clearly CCP aligned.
00:16:02.020You'd have to understand China deeply to understand what that means.
00:16:05.520But, you know, for any sponsor, I'm having enough trouble right now, Harry, understanding America.
00:16:11.740I'm going to leave the Chinese to the Chinese.
00:16:14.460I want to get something clear, though.
00:16:17.500The $5 million that went to conic or conic.
00:16:38.560So right now, here we are, five months out from the election.
00:16:43.180I've got all sorts of questions, as I've had for years, going back to the early 2000s, about electronic voting and why no one seems to have access to the innards of the machine,
00:16:57.940the systems that run through them, and the vulnerability to manipulation and to rigging an election.
00:17:10.120And it's really a very, to me, it's the essence of the issue.
00:17:16.000Why in the world is this so complicated?
00:17:18.460Why in the world is it so, why are there so many shadows around electronic voting, which should be transparent, wide open to the American people?
00:17:28.680And every election invites, it seems to me, a full-on investigation of what transpires when you have, quote, unquote, anomalies, irregularities, and some people would say fixes.
00:17:50.280If you look at it simply, we have voter rolls that are corrupted and full of garbage.
00:17:57.020Some illegal registrations, I mean, in the true sense of intent, but others are illegal in the sense of the responsibility of the officials at the state level to keep them accurate and clean, and they're not doing that.
00:18:13.180The second piece is that we have no integrity in the system with regard to the transport of the ballots and the knowledge that those ballots are legitimate and properly registered from the hands of the voter, whether those are mail-in ballots or in-person ballots, all the way to the tabulation system.
00:18:33.060The tabulation systems are so complicated.
00:18:35.920Anybody except a cyber or a computer expert can't understand the problems.
00:18:40.800And then on the left-hand side, you have all these laws, procedures, and process that are being ignored.
00:18:47.420And on the right-hand side, if you want to think about it that way, the transparency that is legally required in auditability under HAVA for the Help America Vote Act is also being ignored.
00:18:59.400We have made some mistakes on the conservative side.
00:19:02.740We should not have named any Tom, Dick, and Harry to do our audits.
00:19:06.200We should have hired experts under NDA, under bonding to maintain confidentiality so that they had the legitimacy that we should have had.
00:19:23.480The victim here is the American people, and it's not conservatives, actually.
00:19:28.600We're going to a place where votes don't matter anymore, simply don't matter.
00:19:33.220We do have the ability still with some opportunities to speak out loud, but even there, they're trying to abridge our rights to freedom of speech.
00:19:45.160So the fact is, machines are complicated.
00:19:49.260And people don't understand network interface cards or Wi-Fi communication programs or security programs.
00:20:17.880Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Agency.
00:20:21.740We'll be taking that up with Harry just in a moment.
00:20:28.140And we're not going to let your eyes roll back in your head.
00:20:30.680We're going to make sure that we're plain spoken and clear as we can be about the state of this electoral system right now, folks, because that's what counts.
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00:21:48.780They say within six days, as Chris Krebs did back in 2020, he went out and said it was the most secure election in history, 2020, without having any investigation of any kind.
00:22:21.600Tell us about your views on cybersecurity and infrastructure and why in the world we put up with the nonsense that they did an investigation in 2020 when they palpably did not.
00:22:56.640You've got government agencies under threat.
00:23:00.220The Chinese have been accused of hacking many records out of the federal government.
00:23:06.660But somehow our election systems were magically immune to these attacks in 2020.
00:23:14.540And they weren't investigated because people that were either so deranged about whether or not we should have a fair election if that fair election elected Donald Trump to people that were acting in a way that was irresponsible and reckless.
00:23:32.200So the fact of the matter is, when Krebs declares it, the most secure election ever, I would argue that there haven't been secure elections that are completely transparent and visible since we left people voting as a group in front of the ballot box under the auspices and observation of their neighbors at local precincts, probably in the late 1700s, early 1800s.
00:24:00.860There was a huge difficulty with ballot box stuffing and whatnot in the 1800s, resulting in a series of major revisions of election precedents and law in 1888.
00:24:13.900Most people don't realize this, but there is a law in the United States of America that's called the Federal Information Security Modernization Act.
00:24:23.340It replaces an earlier version of what's called FISMA.
00:24:27.200So there's two FISMAs out there, but the current FISMA mandates the way that the federal government secures things.
00:24:34.540And here we have the most important, the only right that's guaranteed in the Constitution is the right of electing our own representatives in suffrage.
00:24:43.740Right. This is the only right general that guaranteed it's the only one talked about as a right of the people and the rest are embedded in the, you know, the amendments to the Constitution.
00:24:58.020Which wouldn't be agreed to initially.
00:25:00.100But the one that everybody agreed to is that we had a right to elect our representatives and we had a right that all eligible voters, which was a narrowly defined thing in those days, but has been expanded, you know, broadly, is a right of all citizens.
00:25:16.700So what we have is we have a government agency, a bureaucrat in Krebs declaring that there's nothing here that here and our election system is set up as an adversarial system.
00:25:32.080But in 2020, they deny the effective adversarial relationship through the covid monstrosity about keeping people 20 or more feet away from observing the vote to to other things or that were direct malicious actions counter, you know, counteracting the law.
00:25:53.560And we watch many of those those acts on television.
00:26:00.200Election misconduct, but we didn't challenge them correctly in that regard.
00:26:07.560You know, United Sovereign Americans, that's what we're doing is we're challenging misconduct.
00:26:13.960You know, we can we can prosecute a person for having five illegal ballots on their front seat that they've harvested illegally.
00:26:20.460But we we this isn't the same as going after the issue of whether or not, you know, Donald Trump won the election or Joe Biden.
00:26:30.280It's about it's about holding people to the law.
00:26:33.600Again, there's only really five components.
00:26:40.200And I want to I want to boil this down here in the last few minutes here.
00:26:43.500One, right now, there are a number of actions, court actions underway.
00:26:52.220The most one of the very, if not the most important to me is the curling case in Georgia.
00:26:58.320Judge Amy Totenberg, your judgment about how important it is and what you expect will be her finding.
00:27:05.320I on what was a bench trial over electronic voting machines and their their ability to not be manipulated and to assure a true vote on November 5th of this year.
00:28:13.720Curling, Amy Totenberg's initial dicta is quite strong about this issue.
00:28:23.260You know, obviously, we don't we don't have a final decision yet.
00:28:27.780But I think the basic issue is that these officials have to obey the law.
00:28:32.960And that includes what the requirements are under our codes of federal regulations and our laws about what it means to have a secure election.
00:29:34.080We've seen a mess over the last, you know, four years with regard to governance.
00:29:39.700And it's because people, the government, including the bureaucrats, believe they're above the legal restrictions that the courts might place on them.
00:29:47.840So as we wrap up here, Harry, what is your sense?
00:29:56.060And what will be the effect of that rule to clean up the 2024 election while it still can be cleaned up?
00:30:04.000So no matter what she moves, it'll be going to the Supreme Court, in my estimation.
00:30:09.660Secondly, I hope that she's brave enough to do what needs to be done.
00:30:13.980But there's more to it than just the machines or the voter rolls, the law, the machines, and the fact that we can't have transparency and proof of it.
00:30:27.460There's Bill Barr, a former CIA officer for seven years, who also happens to be the guy who was in charge of the Justice Department when the Bureau of Prisons permitted Jeffrey Epstein to be murdered.
00:30:44.600Or if you want to wink and nod to commit suicide, he's also the guy who said it was a secure election.
00:30:53.160But this is a monstrously complicated moment in history.
00:30:58.340It's got good guys, bad guys, and some guys that we're still trying to just figure out what they were all about in 2020 and what they're doing now.
00:31:07.800Harry, come back and let's talk more about this because, obviously, we've got a full wagon here to unload.
00:31:17.160I'll be happy to help you unwind any of it you'd like to focus on.