The Great America Show - WIS. SPECIAL COUNSEL GABLEMAN SAYS HE HAS EVIDENCE FELONIES WERE COMMITTED IN 2020 ELECTION

00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody, and welcome to The Great America Show, Truth, Justice, and the American Way.

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00:00:58.380 Here in the United States, the Biden White House has a problem that's worsening by the day.

00:01:04.660 White House Chief of Staff Ron Klain says none of Hunter Biden's laptop evidence points to the

00:01:11.120 president, only to the president's son and Mr. Biden's brother, Jim Biden. That is the first signal

00:01:18.760 that the Biden White House considers the investigation into the so-called laptop from hell to be a threat

00:01:26.180 to President Biden. This is the first time they've tried to separate the president from his son and

00:01:33.320 his brother as the investigation is apparently ramping up. The two most powerful Democratic newspapers

00:01:40.740 in the country, the New York Times and Washington Post, have now acknowledged the Hunter Biden laptop

00:01:46.360 is real. So the investigation by special counsel John Durham is very real and creating two threats

00:01:54.340 to the Biden administration. A third threat is now beginning to take shape, and that is the

00:02:00.740 legitimacy of the administration itself as more questions arise about what President Trump has called

00:02:07.480 the rigged election of 2020. A special counsel investigation has found sufficient irregularities

00:02:14.740 and violations of election regulations and laws for the special counsel to call for the elimination

00:02:21.560 of the Wisconsin Election Commission. And the special counsel also raised the question of whether the

00:02:28.440 election should be decertified. Our guest today is the man who is leading that investigation, the man who

00:02:35.240 is the special counsel, former Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice Michael Gableman. Michael Gableman,

00:02:42.400 it is great to have you on the show. Can you explain to me and to our audience, was the election in Wisconsin

00:02:52.220 rigged or not? Yes. And before I elaborate, I really have to tell you, my friend, what a fantastic job you do

00:03:01.940 and all the good you do in bringing your viewers and your audience, the truth. And you've just been tireless.

00:03:10.260 And it is an absolute privilege to be here. Rigged is exactly the right word. I don't think it was stolen

00:03:15.620 at the ballot box. If it was, I don't have evidence of that. But I do have evidence that it was definitely rigged

00:03:22.760 against President Trump and in favor of Joe Biden. And that rigging is it's complicated, more complicated

00:03:34.160 than than I have to tell you that I thought the dimension of it goes across state lines. It's

00:03:42.240 involves private money, Zuckerberg money, and others. The Obama administration seems to still be

00:03:52.260 operating. And I'd like to just start by, if I may, asking you, in Wisconsin, what was the principal

00:04:02.720 finding on your audit and examination that disconcerts you and troubles you the most?

00:04:11.340 Sure. The principal finding that that disconcerts and troubles me the most is the fact that the

00:04:16.740 mayors of our five largest cities sold out the people that they were elected to serve. And what I

00:04:24.400 mean by that is they took Mark Zuckerberg's money to the tune of about $10 million. And then they

00:04:32.240 rented themselves out, they hired themselves out as employees or agents of Mark Zuckerberg. And more to

00:04:39.780 the point, Zuckerberg's managers, David Plouffe and other Obama officials, whose sole goal was to

00:04:48.400 target Joe Joe Biden profile voters and get them get the Biden voters to the polls. And they were able

00:04:57.260 to do it because they signed contracts with each of the cities where the cities became the employees

00:05:05.260 of Mark Zuckerberg and David Plouffe.

00:05:07.640 Are you talking about literally became employees or figuratively?

00:05:13.880 Yes, that's a good question. Legally, I would not say employees. Legally, I would call it an agency

00:05:18.820 relationship. An agent is one who is hired to do the bidding of the one who's doing the hiring,

00:05:25.100 but whose day to day control is not within the purview of the employer. It's that what it is,

00:05:32.260 it's the application of the maxim that former Governor Dreyfuss of Wisconsin used to refer to

00:05:38.840 as the golden rule. He who has the gold makes the rules. And so Mark Zuckerberg came to these five

00:05:45.260 cities, Milwaukee, Racine, Madison, Kenosha, and Green Bay. And he said, this is how you're going to

00:05:52.700 conduct your election. And what I mean by that is the most significant conduct took place prior to

00:06:01.200 actual election day, where they put in place ballot harvesters, they called them voter navigators.

00:06:06.820 They came to town saying that it was going to be a COVID protection plan, which which is given the

00:06:15.140 lie by two facts. Number one, none of the cities ever said that they needed any money for COVID relief.

00:06:20.760 The states, the state and the feds have already made a lot of money available for that. And more

00:06:29.020 significant proof than that is they wound up spending less than 1% of that $10 million on actual COVID

00:06:39.240 protection. The rest was done through the aegis of a group called CTCL, Center for Tech and Civic Life,

00:06:49.580 which is run by a woman, Tiana Epps Johnson, who is a former Obama employee. And her job was to get out 0.69

00:07:02.160 the vote and use use technology to identify target and get out the vote of Democrat voters. And she was the

00:07:16.060 one who came to these cities. And she had a list of a list of requirements that the cities had to do to target in

00:07:26.700 particular African American voters. Now, why is that significant? David Plouffe, David Plouffe, one of the two

00:07:34.600 primary campaign managers for Barack Obama, who brought him up from the streets of city of Chicago activism to the

00:07:42.000 White House. He wrote a book called Citizens Guide beating Donald Trump. And in it, he said that Hillary

00:07:51.260 lost the 2016 election, because she didn't spend enough time in places like Wisconsin, and she didn't do 0.98

00:07:58.680 enough to get out the black vote. So what do we have? We have CTCL controlled by Mark Zuckerberg,

00:08:07.440 through his employee, David Plouffe. And what the citizens of those cities are promised is COVID

00:08:16.880 protection. But what they got was a list of orders to target, to target, Lou, African American voters to get

00:08:29.560 into the polls, because all of the research shows that when African Americans vote, they tend to vote

00:08:36.460 about 86% of the time for the Democrat candidate. And so this was nothing more and nothing less than a

00:08:43.440 get out the vote, using Mark, get out the vote campaign for Joe Biden, using Zuckerberg's money, but using the

00:08:52.000 authority of the city, of the cities, because the cities were going to provide the infrastructure, right?

00:08:57.300 The cities had to provide, for instance, special vans and buses, and in one case, Winnebago's,

00:09:04.100 to go into African American communities and get the voters out. That is a selective procedure, that is

00:09:13.600 a get out the vote campaign for Joe Biden. It was rigged.

00:09:17.760 Wow. And, and with that, the margin, the margin that was produced, how, how, how large was it?

00:09:31.000 First of all, about 20,000, about 20,000 votes out of 3 million cast.

00:09:36.160 And, and, and there's been audits, there've been examinations, uh, even in some instances,

00:09:43.760 I understand, uh, you know, actual recounts and audits and nobody found anything. Uh, what's your

00:09:52.660 reaction to those other activities on the part of people examining the Wisconsin vote in 2020?

00:09:59.160 Well, I'll tell you what, I, I really wish I was in a, excuse me, I wish I was in a better position

00:10:07.720 to give your, your audience a more informed answer, but unfortunately, the voting machine

00:10:13.620 manufacturers, namely ES&S and Dominion, who we have served with subpoenas, were simply not

00:10:21.360 cooperating. They're not going to tell us anything. They don't want to tell us anything about how their

00:10:27.620 machines work. They don't want to tell us anything about what the procedures were, uh, that were

00:10:34.640 followed for testing and to make sure everything was accurate in the way it should be. Now, I think

00:10:41.760 that's absolutely wrong for several different reasons. Number one, if you're going to play a key

00:10:46.720 role in a core governmental function of putting on elections in, in a purported democracy, you better

00:10:53.420 be willing to tell people how you did it. And that should just be factored into your, your cost of

00:10:59.120 doing business. And, and there are all sorts of, so, so I don't believe, I don't believe necessarily

00:11:06.140 that the kind of rigging that went on here would have been detectable by a recount or an audit,

00:11:12.440 but I don't know because the machine manufacturers are fighting me. And they, and so by the way,

00:11:18.380 are the government servants so-called who put all of this on now, the city of Kenosha, I always make

00:11:23.140 an exception for it. They've been pretty cooperative, but all the others are lawyering up in the, in the

00:11:29.600 words of our current governor, the Democrat, Tony Evers, he told all the clerks when Gableman comes to

00:11:35.740 talk to you lawyer up, that was his big advice. And then our Democrat, Josh call. Yeah, exactly.

00:11:42.520 Josh call. Our current Democrat attorney general is fighting me in court to prevent me from asking

00:11:52.460 questions of the administrators over at the Wisconsin election commission to ask them why

00:11:59.260 they approved all of these things. Why did they approve CTCL coming in and taking over? And when I

00:12:06.340 say take over, take over the elections. Now I'm not speaking metaphorically. We had one character,

00:12:12.640 Michael Spitzer Rubinstein, who wrote the handbook for election day procedures in the city of Milwaukee.

00:12:19.720 He works for CTCL. So therefore he is a Mark Zuckerberg, David Plouffe agent. And there he is

00:12:25.800 writing the handbook for which ballots are going to be counted, which ballots are going to be cured.

00:12:31.940 C-U-R-E-D. So if there's a mistake on the paperwork accompanying some of it, it's going to be

00:12:37.220 Michael Spitzer Rubinstein, who's going to determine whether that ballot gets counted.

00:12:41.560 And he's up in the city of Green Bay. Right. And he's Spitzer Rubinstein of Brooklyn, New York.

00:12:49.360 And if you go on his online media, there's no bones about it. All these people

00:12:53.120 are deep, deep leftist partisans. And we haven't even gotten to some of the most systemic and rotten

00:13:01.400 part of it. But Spitzer Rubinstein, just to finish up with him. Sure. He moved to the city of Green

00:13:08.380 Bay. Now, Green Bay is a wonderful town filled with wonderful people. But Spitzer Rubinstein was

00:13:13.880 only interested in the city of Green Bay to ring as many Biden votes as he could. And the mayor,

00:13:20.240 Eric Genrich, wanted nothing more than to beat Donald Trump. So he brings in Michael Spitzer Rubinstein

00:13:27.540 to run the election in the city of Green Bay. Do you know why he was able to do that? Because

00:13:33.560 the longtime clerk, a wonderful public servant, and one of the nice surprises, one of the pleasures

00:13:40.760 of my assignment has been to meet some really fantastic public servants. Well, Chris Teske had

00:13:46.860 been the clerk for almost a decade. She had been an employee for almost 30 years at the clerk's

00:13:53.540 office. Well, she quit two weeks before the election. And she told the mayor, all these

00:13:58.840 people from Chicago, CTCL, all these people from New York, Michael Spitzer Rubinstein have

00:14:04.900 come in. You've put them here, Mr. Mayor. And they've taken over my job and they don't know

00:14:10.700 Wisconsin election law and they don't care about Wisconsin election law. So she quit. So Eric 0.60

00:14:17.240 Genrich, the mayor of Green Bay, looked far and wide to find the best person he could find

00:14:21.420 to run the election on election day in the city of Green Bay. And he picked Michael Spitzer

00:14:26.140 Rubinstein. Wow. That's incredible. And, and with that, there have been actually no police

00:14:36.980 investigations by that. I mean, official governmental law enforcement investigations of what transpired

00:14:43.420 because it surely sounds as though law had to be violated in some fashion for the election.

00:14:52.940 It is election bribery. It is, there's crime, there is criminal, there is evidence. There is

00:14:58.660 significant evidence, I believe. And I say this as a former district attorney, a former trial court judge

00:15:04.060 and a former state Supreme court justice. There is probable cause to believe that any number of crimes

00:15:12.080 were violated, any number of laws were violated, any amount of criminal conduct was committed

00:15:17.920 by people, both in the city and the people that they brought in from the Zuckerberg group to run their

00:15:26.240 elections. Now of the five cities in Wisconsin, as Green Bay, the only one that fits this, uh, this,

00:15:35.280 uh, you know, the potential crime, uh, template, uh, because it seems like that's pretty much what

00:15:42.040 happened in each one of the cities. No, right. Let's back up. I believe that the bringing in the

00:15:47.940 $10 million to each of the five, they said it was for COVID safety, but they lied. Okay. Let's just,

00:15:57.560 let's just call it what it is. It was a lie. The whole point of it was to turn out the vote for Joe Biden.

00:16:05.060 In Wisconsin, like in most States, it's illegal to pay money, to pay money, to get people to go vote.

00:16:15.040 And that's what Zuckerberg came to town to do. He put it in the contract and he made the cities tell

00:16:21.260 him, he made the cities tell him, how will you identify target and get out the vote in the African

00:16:28.620 American communities? And, and that's where, that's where absentee voting comes in.

00:16:35.060 Because while the, the data show that when African Americans vote, they tend to vote at least 86% of

00:16:42.980 the time Democrat, right? They also tend not as a group, the statistics show, they tend not to show

00:16:51.200 up to the polls on election day. They prefer to vote at other times. That's where the ballot harvesters,

00:16:58.640 which all these contracts referred to as voter navigators, as if our Wisconsin citizens are so 0.99

00:17:04.180 stupid, they just can't figure out how to, how to get their, their ballots in. Well, here you have 0.99

00:17:11.620 Mark Zuckerberg paying people to get information from each of the five cities and from the Wisconsin

00:17:18.700 elections commission that nobody else has access to. What do I mean by that? If you want to get a daily list

00:17:27.780 of people on our Wisconsin voter rolls, people who've registered people who have requested an

00:17:35.120 absentee ballot, but have not yet returned it, it's available for purchase for $12,500 a day

00:17:43.560 from the Wisconsin election commission. But I've got evidence, very strong evidence.

00:17:49.180 And I put this in the report to show that Mark Zuckerberg's agents at CTCL, remember all the

00:17:57.700 former Obama officials and, and, uh, campaigners, right. That they were getting this information

00:18:06.640 in real time because they had actual access to the system itself. And then what they did,

00:18:16.160 they hired, they hired, they're so good with technology. They're so they, they hired a guy

00:18:21.160 to create a computer application, an app to identify by race. Those people who had requested

00:18:29.140 an absentee ballot, but had not yet returned it. And then they use that information to send

00:18:35.300 out ballot harvesters, to knock on the doors of these innocent citizens and to tell them,

00:18:41.120 and they could tell them because they had that contract. We're here from the city and we're here

00:18:46.460 to help you put your ballot in all, all as identified by race because David Plouffe,

00:18:54.040 he wrote in the book, but he also wrote a letter to the New York times, a letter to the editor,

00:19:00.040 several days after the 2016 election. And he said, remember, this is the guy Zuckerberg hired

00:19:07.300 to run the scheme. He said, the reason Hillary lost is because she didn't spend enough time in 1.00

00:19:15.860 states like Wisconsin. And she didn't do enough to get out the African-American vote. Those were two 1.00

00:19:22.720 mistakes that David Plouffe was not about to let happen twice. And he didn't. And that, that was the

00:19:30.840 whole purpose of the so-called grants, which were actually contracts for employment and where the

00:19:37.940 cities are the employees. You know, it's, it's interesting to NPR has a headline now, uh, called

00:19:47.440 Mark to the effect, Mark Zuckerberg saved the 2020 election, uh, and, and how we did it. Uh, there's

00:19:56.500 no secret here. Uh, the left is being absolutely straightforward about at least that part of the,

00:20:03.000 the story. Zuckerberg's money is what changed the arguably could have changed the outcome

00:20:10.300 of the, of the 2020 election. Uh, I personally, when I look at Pennsylvania, I look at Georgia,

00:20:17.380 Arizona, uh, Nevada, Michigan. Uh, you know, I, I, I think if I didn't mention Pennsylvania, I want to,

00:20:25.400 I'll say it twice if necessary. I absolutely believe it did. Well, they, I've seen those

00:20:31.560 headlines too. And, and, uh, I think it was time magazine who did an article a few months after the

00:20:38.880 2020 election, similar and, and what they really mean when they say, and what NPR certainly means

00:20:44.960 is that Mark Zuckerberg saved the Biden campaign. I mean, let's, we, we haven't even talked about the,

00:20:52.700 the real systemic corruption here that the CTCL thing. That was a, a one-time deal and that was

00:20:59.980 bad enough. Believe me. I just said a few minutes ago, I believe that crimes were committed. Felonies

00:21:04.820 were committed, but we've got this entity out there that nobody, nobody has ever heard of unless you

00:21:13.820 happen to, to work in the field of elections. And that's called Eric E R I C the electronic

00:21:22.200 registration information center. Right now that was an outfit that was created. The money was supposed

00:21:28.720 to be from an anonymous donor. That was the plan. But a whistleblower blower a few years ago came out

00:21:36.020 and said, yes, it was George Soros who paid for this. And he hired a character, a real character named

00:21:43.360 David Becker. Now David Becker is well known for a few things. He's very smart guy. He's very, very smart,

00:21:52.360 very politically savvy, and he hates Republicans. This is on the record. This was one from one of his

00:21:59.680 former bosses who said he was Becker sent around emails at the department of justice, which he quit

00:22:06.680 under, under, under reasons that boy, I'd like to hear David's explanation for why he left the

00:22:13.600 department of justice, but be that as may, what is on the record is he hates Republicans. Now, why your,

00:22:21.620 your audience is sitting there going, well, why is Gableman telling us about this electronic registration

00:22:27.400 information center and George Soros and David Becker? And the answer is this, because in 31 states,

00:22:34.920 including Wisconsin, there is no more substantive controller of who is on the voter rolls in each

00:22:43.520 of those states than David Becker and the Eric Corporation that he set up with George Soros's money.

00:22:52.760 Well, how did they say it was right? That's a good question. How did that happen? Well, it happened

00:22:58.780 because it was set up again. It's a lie. Eric says that its mission is to make states' voter rolls

00:23:09.540 more accurate. Well, Wisconsin has been a subscriber to Eric. To join Eric, each of the states has to pay

00:23:16.280 something like $25,000 or $35,000 a year. That's what they make publicly available.

00:23:21.280 But what the chair of the Wisconsin Assembly Campaigns and Elections Committee has found is

00:23:26.800 that the state of Wisconsin actually pays hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to David Becker's

00:23:33.740 Eric system. So multiply that by 31 states and you're starting to talk some real money.

00:23:40.880 Right. So Wisconsin, not only is a subscriber,

00:23:43.640 but the current administrator of the Wisconsin Elections Commission, Megan Wolfe, is the current

00:23:50.820 president of Eric. So right there, that seems to really call into question some conflict of interest

00:23:59.280 issues. How can Megan Wolfe, as the administrative head of WEC, Wisconsin Elections Commission, 0.95

00:24:08.260 sit down at the bargaining table? And who does she sit across the table from when they negotiate 1.00

00:24:15.620 the terms of payment, the terms of secrecy, the terms of data sharing? And when I say data sharing,

00:24:22.760 I mean all of the personal information about all of the citizens in each of these states.

00:24:28.080 Let me tell you how good a job Eric has done in keeping Wisconsin's voter rolls accurate.

00:24:33.500 In Wisconsin, we've got about five and a half million citizens, of whom about four million

00:24:38.780 are eligible to vote. When I want to illustrate the problem, the deep systemic rottenness of this

00:24:49.820 system, after I tell people those two facts, five and a half million citizens, four million eligible

00:24:56.180 vote, I ask them, how many people do you think we have on our voter rolls? And if they're tracking with

00:25:02.540 me, they'll say, well, gee, you have 4 million or less, because that's the number of eligible voters.

00:25:08.060 And uniformly, they are shocked as I was to learn, we've got over 7 million names on Wisconsin's

00:25:17.560 voter rolls. Because the Wisconsin Election Commission, Megan Wolfe's predecessor, now it sounds

00:25:26.060 like I'm going into a lot of information. And it took me a few days. If you look at this on an

00:25:31.580 org chart, it is beautiful, the way they have this set up. Megan Wolfe's predecessor was a guy named,

00:25:38.540 is a guy named Kevin Kennedy. Kevin Kennedy ran that outfit, the predecessor to WEC, so badly,

00:25:46.460 and so leftist partisan, that in 2015, our state legislature actually dismantled the agency that he ran,

00:25:56.680 because they said it was hopelessly corrupted by leftist partisan politics. Well, guess who sits on the

00:26:03.840 five man, and they're all men, board of directors of David Becker's organization, Kevin Kennedy. So Kevin

00:26:12.180 Kennedy set the policy that the good Lord might take a voter off the face of this earth, but Wisconsin

00:26:19.480 Election Commission will not take them off the voter rolls. So that is, that is a system that, that is a

00:26:26.900 system that is not designed to promote accuracy of our voter rolls. That is a system that is designed

00:26:33.900 to create all sorts of potential pools of corruption and systemic illegalities when it comes to voter

00:26:45.380 malfeasance.

00:26:47.560 So let me, this is absolutely fascinating. And I have not heard this detail and description of Eric in such,

00:26:59.760 uh, in such a, such a form. Uh, and what you're really saying here is that Kevin Kennedy,

00:27:06.100 who was the reason that Wisconsin, uh, uh, blew up the previous, uh, election commission, uh, he was so

00:27:17.340 corrupt that they, in fact, ended up promoting him, uh, to a loftier position with Eric, uh, that now

00:27:26.580 Wisconsin is sort of responsible for making Kevin Kennedy, uh, uh, blessing

00:27:32.740 with his, his control, not this Wisconsinite, not this Wisconsinite, but yeah, he was certainly

00:27:39.440 given a national platform. He, I have to correct it. I realized that I had left it a little ambiguous

00:27:45.840 because I didn't know how much your audience wanted to digest. Oh, I promise. This is the last

00:27:51.720 organization that I'm going to talk about. And it doesn't take long.

00:27:56.540 Uh, this audience, let me say this, and I don't speak for this audience often, but I can tell you

00:28:04.440 this audience wants as much detail about that election and what is happening in their country

00:28:10.900 and to them as, uh, American citizens, because all of this is disenfranchisement of the American

00:28:18.780 voter, whether you're in Wisconsin, whether you're in California, wherever it is. So we are thrilled

00:28:24.560 to, to hear your view and, uh, description. And I, and I do have to say that if I'm going too fast or

00:28:33.740 if, if, uh, there's too much, everything I'm talking about is available on our website at the office,

00:28:41.000 Wisconsin office of special counsel, and it's W I election review.org W I short for Wisconsin

00:28:50.340 election review.org. Now the last organization that I want to talk about, unless you ask me about

00:28:59.000 others, but the last one that I see is central to all of the fraud that occurred in rigging this

00:29:04.520 election in favor of Joe Biden and against Donald Trump is another Mark Zuckerberg funded entity. You

00:29:12.020 see his, his, uh, $330 million investment into center for tech and civic life. Remember them run by

00:29:20.920 Tiana Epps Johnson, who within two weeks of her ending her fellowship at the Obama center, she is now in

00:29:31.420 charge of distributing CTCLs money to Wisconsin and the other States and telling them how they need to

00:29:38.500 run their elections. And she didn't have far to move after her fellowship, by the way, Lou, you're

00:29:43.520 going to get a kick out of this. The office of center for tech and civic life is in downtown Chicago

00:29:50.240 in the very same office that served as Barack Obama's campaign headquarters. So Zuckerberg hires David.

00:29:58.920 Yeah, you bet. It's a stop. I mean, they did it in, in plain sight and, and people who are concerned

00:30:05.560 about honest elections trusted and their trust was abused by the leaders, by the leaders of the

00:30:13.580 election systems. And in our case, the five mayors, see, they had to go through the mayors in our state

00:30:20.660 where in most States, and that's why I believe that Wisconsin is at the forefront of discovering all of

00:30:27.860 this. Is in most States, it's the secretary of state who has all the power over statewide elections.

00:30:35.860 Right. But about 30 years ago, our legislature stripped the secretary of state, a guy named

00:30:42.840 La Follette, who is yes, the grandson of fighting Bob La Follette, who's pushing 80 and hasn't told us

00:30:48.980 whether he's going to run for reelection in November, but that's besides the point. They stripped him of all

00:30:53.780 substantive powers. And they put his office literally into the basement of the Capitol.

00:30:59.660 And instead they transferred the power to, and the authority to administer elections. Even though

00:31:05.900 if you go back into the constitution and the case law, the real power and authority to run our elections

00:31:12.180 really rests. And the responsibility rests with the people, with the people, not a government service,

00:31:19.180 not something we can hire out, not like law enforcement or street repair or something.

00:31:24.320 This is something that we have to take an interest in. So, so the information was more dispersed in

00:31:30.880 Wisconsin with various levels of cooperation, uh, between the different cities and the different

00:31:37.360 clerks, unlike in most States where they just had to capture one secretary of state. As for instance,

00:31:43.420 in Michigan, we're center for tech and civic life funded by Mark Zuckerberg paid to their secretary of state

00:31:50.820 $12 million for her personal nonprofit corporation before the 2020 election. And that's on top of the $14

00:32:02.500 million that Zuckerberg gave to her in her capacity as secretary of state of, of Michigan, Jocelyn Benson.

00:32:10.860 So this is a guy, Zuckerberg was on a declared mission to defeat Donald Trump. This, so let me talk about

00:32:19.340 this one last organization. This gets me back to Kevin Kennedy and David Becker and the Mark Zuckerberg money.

00:32:26.140 And that is the center for election innovation and research. See, I call it CEIR, C E I R. 1.00

00:32:32.720 That's the one that Zuckerberg gave $69.2 million to in 2020 to do the same kind of work around the

00:32:41.620 country that CTCL did, which is to rig the election and basically perform a get out the vote service.

00:32:49.140 Get out the vote, by the way, had always been a partisan term. It's, it's always something that

00:32:53.800 candidates and partisan, uh, political parties had always used get out. The vote is short for

00:33:01.160 get out the vote of those voters who we believe are going to vote for us. That's what it is. That's

00:33:07.680 what get out the vote stands for. And so center for election innovation and research is also headed by

00:33:15.160 say it with me, David Becker. Remember him from the George Soros organization, uh, Eric, that I was

00:33:23.960 surprised that here I've lived in Wisconsin for 55 years, plus or minus three years out of law school.

00:33:30.320 And I was shocked to learn that no one has a more substantive role in determining who votes in

00:33:37.980 Wisconsin than David Becker does. So it's actually through this other entity, this CEIR Center for

00:33:45.140 Election Innovation and Research, uh, that is the board of directors that Kevin Kennedy sits on.

00:33:52.200 So Megan Wolf, president of ERIC, current administrator of Wisconsin elections, Kevin Kennedy,

00:34:00.920 the guy who hired Megan Wolf and who Megan used to work for, the guy who caused the state legislature to

00:34:08.220 dismantle his agency called Government Accountability Board for being hopelessly partisan

00:34:14.640 leftist. That's who sits on the board. So they've got it covered from all angles, I guess, is what I'm

00:34:20.480 telling you.

00:34:21.100 No kidding. That's, that's incredible. Uh, and, and where is the same, uh, I would say imperative

00:34:30.440 to clean up, uh, as has happened previously, as you point out in, in Wisconsin, how could David

00:34:37.540 Becker keep reappearing, uh, what's necessary for the state of Wisconsin to get him out of their

00:34:43.920 elections?

00:34:45.600 You know, you've asked two questions and let me take the first one first. How did it happen?

00:34:50.560 It happened because we have our state's largest source of news in terms of where most people in

00:34:57.200 this state get their news from is this paper owned by Gannett called the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel,

00:35:03.300 uh, which I usually refer to as the Milwaukee Urinal Sentinel, because it has self admittedly,

00:35:09.860 it really has it a few years ago, the publisher, George Stanley, George Stalin, Stanley, as I call him

00:35:19.200 published a notice to all readers saying, we are no longer going to simply report the news.

00:35:26.200 We at the Milwaukee Urinal Sentinel are going to incorporate our opinions into our so-called

00:35:35.180 news reporting. So they've gone to a business model where they focus on their, uh, urban residents

00:35:42.260 and that's who they try to sell their paper to for the most part. But this gets to how did this

00:35:48.740 happen? It happened because George Stanley and the people who worked for him, the scribes,

00:35:58.560 not reporters, the scribes, this is how they want it. They do not think that Americans are smart enough

00:36:05.840 to pick the best leader. They believe, they honestly believe that they are saving the world,

00:36:11.940 that they're saving us from ourselves and the amount of arrogance that goes into something like

00:36:18.780 that, but that's how they do it. And if anyone puts their head above the weeds as I have and says,

00:36:25.820 listen, this isn't right. Here's, here's what's going on. Do you know what they do? They scrutinize

00:36:32.420 every, all of a sudden they, when it comes to me, they've become very watchful guardians of the public

00:36:38.140 purse. I took an out of town lawyer who came here to help me. I took him to a local hamburger stand

00:36:44.900 and I bought him a hamburger. And yes, I bought myself a hamburger too. What makes the front page

00:36:51.300 headline of the Milwaukee urinal Sentinel? Mike Gableman buying a hamburger on the public dime.

00:36:58.080 That's what they do. And, and they fiercely attack anyone. They, they fiercely attack anyone who

00:37:09.460 comes out and says, it's not right for our cities to have sold out to Zuckerberg and to have turned

00:37:16.960 their election process into a get out the vote campaign. All of a sudden, anyone who challenges

00:37:23.060 that they are branded in true Stalinist fashion, those people and myself, they're, they're called

00:37:31.240 racist. They tried that attack a few months ago, but it didn't get any traction. I think people are

00:37:35.700 getting smarter. They tried it. They, they float all of the, yeah. I think that's happening nationwide.

00:37:42.820 This, this wave of wokeness in this country that is, is a form of psychosis as far as I'm concerned,

00:37:51.420 at least the attempt to induce psychosis, uh, has had the, the opposite effect. I think there is an

00:37:58.400 awakening, uh, the wokeness, uh, and all of the Marxist nonsense that attends the Biden agenda and

00:38:07.520 the radical democratic party. I, I, I truly believe the American people have awakened, uh, and, uh, we're

00:38:14.960 about to see some significant, uh, changes. I want to ask you, I do too. I'm sorry. Go ahead.

00:38:22.620 I was just going to say people, most citizens, they've got families, they've got jobs. They're

00:38:27.460 trying to keep body and soul together. They're just trying to keep living. Right. So they don't

00:38:31.880 have a lot of time to study this stuff, but miraculously, as I have seen it, they get it

00:38:37.680 in their gut. They know when something isn't right. And, and that I tell you what, the over,

00:38:45.580 over something, almost like 60% of Americans have doubt or a high degree of doubt

00:38:51.620 about the legitimacy of the 2020 election that, that a majority think it was stolen in one way or

00:38:59.040 another. Could any, but could most of those people sit down and write a 500 word essay about the

00:39:04.240 details of that? They could not, but they get it in their gut. The same way they take the measure

00:39:09.660 of a candidate. They don't sit there and read policy papers or position papers. They listen, they

00:39:15.760 watch, they observe, they reflect, and then something intuitive, informed by knowledge comes

00:39:22.840 and that the same thing is happening here, the same thing. And we must take it back. I'm sorry.

00:39:27.600 I interrupted you. No, but I think that's what you're saying is very important. Uh, because when we

00:39:33.860 have a country, uh, one of the things that people forget is that one of the great successes of Donald

00:39:39.460 Trump was the fact that he was a billionaire populist. Uh, it was not artifice. It was not,

00:39:46.680 uh, any kind of contrivance. He authentically is a populist. And when he articulated policy in two

00:39:55.160 words, America first, that meant every American, uh, had an equal, uh, standing and opportunity in

00:40:05.200 this country. And by the way, that's embodied in our law. It's embodied in our constitution. He was

00:40:11.020 just simply trying, uh, his level best against all odds. The, the opposition of the establishment,

00:40:18.040 the permanent bureaucracy, the deep state, uh, the leftist, uh, Dems, uh, the legal profession,

00:40:24.780 universities and college, uh, professors, public school teachers, and their unions all arrayed

00:40:31.400 against him. Oh, I forgot corporate media as well. Uh, and he, and he persevered that kind of courage,

00:40:40.020 that kind of, uh, political judgment, uh, and, uh, energy to carry it out, uh, has made all the

00:40:48.360 difference in this country. I can't imagine where we'd be if it were not for Donald Trump for those

00:40:52.580 four years. We definitely need him now. That's why one of the underlying currents that had caused me to

00:41:00.560 have doubt right after November 3rd, 2020, right after the election, I, I was mystified because

00:41:08.580 I had never seen, never in my lifetime had I seen a candidate in president Trump who enjoyed such

00:41:17.100 wide, not just wide support, but deep. I mean, his supporters would have crawled over broken glass

00:41:23.880 to vote for him. And, and equally, I have never in my lifetime seen such absolute indifference

00:41:31.840 to a political candidate in the body of Joe Biden. I mean, they literally said

00:41:38.120 this guy's best campaign strategy, his best strategy is to stay in his basement and keep his

00:41:45.700 mouth shut. That's why intuitively after the day and the next few days after the election, I was

00:41:53.720 really, yeah, I had my doubts, but now I see, now I really, I see how they did it. I see how they did

00:42:01.380 it. It was brilliant, but it was also made possible only by the complicity of the corporate

00:42:07.960 media, as well as elected officials who are so afraid of public criticism that the most important

00:42:15.960 thing in their life, I'm not talking like top three, I'm not talking like marriage, God, and then

00:42:20.640 no, the most important thing in their life is keeping their public office. And so consequently,

00:42:26.980 the most important strategy that they employ is to avoid criticism in the press.

00:42:32.700 Yeah. And now, now we are seeing the people actually doing the leading. The people are saying,

00:42:42.780 no, something about that 2020 election was not right. And so now I think we're seeing more elected

00:42:49.260 officials being willing to come forward and to be a proponent of deeper and further investigations

00:42:55.460 into determining exactly how far this systemic corruption has gone on and is still going on.

00:43:04.120 Eric is, Eric is a ongoing organization center for election innovation and research is an ongoing

00:43:12.480 organization. And the Milwaukee urinal, just like all the other corporate media, we continue to refer to

00:43:18.560 them as nonpartisan election watchdogs, which is a joke, unless your interpretation of that phrase

00:43:25.640 is to say, wholly owned by George Soros, Mark Zuckerberg, and the Democratic Party.

00:43:32.300 That is utterly stunning. A watchdog, there are nonprofits that are watchdogs, a state that requires

00:43:41.800 a contract with a, an organization like that instead of its own secretary of state, its own elections

00:43:49.660 commissions, its own, uh, system of government, local, local, uh, county, uh, and state government,

00:43:57.340 my Lord, uh, as well as to rub salt, I'm sorry, to rub salt in that wound. They won't even tell us what

00:44:05.980 the terms of the contract are. For example, Eric electronic registration information center seated

00:44:13.280 with the money from George Soros run by the infamous David Becker with its current president, the head of

00:44:21.000 Wisconsin elections commission, Megan Wolf won't even tell the people they purportedly serve what they do 0.97

00:44:30.180 with the information they suck out of the states. For example, we know, we know from the contracts that

00:44:38.500 have been made public in one way or another, that the states who, the 31 states who subscribe to Eric

00:44:45.280 must provide Eric with all of their voter data identification, everything. They also have to provide

00:44:54.280 Eric with all of their department of motor vehicle holders information, all your personal information.

00:45:02.040 If you, if you have a driver's license, all of your information in Wisconsin has been transferred

00:45:08.120 to this private entity controlled by George Soros called Eric. What do they do with it? We don't know

00:45:17.360 because they won't tell us yet. They will, they'll wind up telling us, but they don't want us to know.

00:45:23.200 And, and, and all of these entities that are resisting your subpoenas, uh, whether it's ESS or whether

00:45:31.940 it is dominion, uh, will, do you have a sufficient legal power behind you to compel enforcement of

00:45:40.600 those subpoenas? I, I do, but I've got cow, I've got leftist partisan judges who in our state,

00:45:49.120 in our state, the vast majority of judges are either to the political left or they are so cowed.

00:45:57.700 They are so cowed by the pressure of the bureaucracy, as well as they know who the press

00:46:03.960 is going to come out for that just listen, the speaker of the assembly was just found in contempt of

00:46:11.840 court by a Madison leftist judge. I've got a Madison leftist judge on my case right now, because this

00:46:20.540 thing, this leftist funded partisan leftist called American oversight is trying to get every scrap of

00:46:29.920 paper that I ever put pen or pencil to. And, and the judges, including the judges presiding over my case,

00:46:40.000 which, you know, if I could talk to him, I would say he is a coward and he is playing to the leftist 0.91

00:46:46.840 partisan. He is playing to the leftist media. He's playing to his leftist electorate. I would say a 0.97

00:46:53.360 few other things if I could talk to Frank personally too, but I've seen him and I've seen him showboat in

00:47:00.020 court because he knows he's going to be supported in that cocoon of irrelevant, of, of unrealism called

00:47:08.520 Madison and he's coming after me. And, and just like the other judges going after a speaker boss,

00:47:16.140 he's doing it because it'll know he knows it'll make points with the leftist press and his leftist

00:47:23.740 constituency. So I can't count on judges. Maybe the state Supreme court, maybe we'll see. That's where

00:47:32.140 it's all going to go. That's where it's all going to go. And I think our audience is aware of the irony

00:47:37.100 there. Uh, and the, and the weight of what you're saying, because we're hearing that from a former

00:47:42.920 justice of the Wisconsin, uh, Supreme court, uh, saying maybe, uh, when talking about the, uh, the,

00:47:51.500 uh, ability of, uh, of a high, uh, the highest court of the state, uh, to be impartial. It's,

00:47:57.960 it's staggering. We're seeing this, as you know, across the country. Uh, when I talk about,

00:48:02.780 let me correct you Lou, let me just, let me, I have to correct you. Okay. I know there are going

00:48:07.860 to be three of them on our state Supreme court. I know for sure that there are going to be three

00:48:13.500 who are absolute leftist partisans. They ran two out of the three who are more recent. The one is

00:48:20.480 elderly and she's on her way out, but, but the younger two, they ran basically on adopting Obama's

00:48:27.900 platform. Okay. I know how those three are going to vote. They're going to vote against people being

00:48:34.240 able to know how they're, because why, because they're in favor of the way the partisan election

00:48:40.660 that Joe Biden won, they're in favor of it. The others I'm praying. I know, I know most of them,

00:48:47.460 and I know most of them have courage and I know most of them are going to follow the law. So we'll see.

00:48:52.160 We'll see. It's well, that, that is, uh, that is encouraging. Uh, I also wonder about all of the

00:49:02.960 other aspects of your findings, whether it's the drop boxes, whether it's the nursing homes,

00:49:08.460 there was, I mean, that's broad base corruption. Uh, and as you point out, illegality is right.

00:49:17.920 It, it is illegal. It has been declared, the drop boxes have been declared illegal. And, and I'm so

00:49:24.820 glad you brought up the nursing homes. I didn't know if we were going to get into it, but that is

00:49:30.260 such an important topic, how the Wisconsin election commission knowingly, and I mean, knowingly they,

00:49:39.480 they, we have Wisconsin's version of C-SPAN called Wisconsin I E-Y-E. And all of the commissions,

00:49:47.220 all of the Wisconsin elections commission's meetings, uh, that are open to the public are

00:49:51.960 broadcast on this system. Well, we have the specter of five out of six of the commissioners

00:49:59.200 saying, we know that the law requires special protections for our vulnerable residents of

00:50:08.120 continuing care facilities. And those special protections take the form of what are called

00:50:13.420 special voting deputies. So that when people in continuing care facilities vote,

00:50:18.540 they have in the room with them, one representative of each party,

00:50:24.500 obviously to keep the other one honest. And they are trained, they are trained how not to unduly

00:50:32.640 influence the vote of the resident of the continuing care facility. And they take an oath

00:50:38.900 that they will follow the rules. Well, five out of the six commissioners voted many times,

00:50:47.500 many times in the run-up to the 2020 election. So throw those laws out the window and to, to ignore,

00:50:57.100 ignore the law that said no employee of a continuing care facility may assist a resident of the continuing

00:51:05.480 care facility in filling out the ballot. Now that is as obvious as it is intuitive. You don't want

00:51:13.120 somebody in a vulnerable position, like a resident of a continuing care facility to be at the tender

00:51:20.160 mercy of a partisan, someone who may be at, they may be pure as a driven still, but they're not all pure and

00:51:27.080 none of them have been trained and none of them have taken an oath to do it right. So we had all sorts of

00:51:32.840 nursing home employees filling out the ballots for residents of nursing homes. And we've, we have

00:51:39.800 dozens of families. I don't know the exact number, but we've got dozens of brave families who checked on

00:51:47.480 the wivote.com or wivote.org. And they determined that, that their loved one who'd been institutionalized.

00:51:56.100 And in many, in some cases under legal guardianship, where their legal right to vote had been removed

00:52:03.040 by the court because of it, because of the infirmities of aging. And here we have in the five Zuckerberg

00:52:12.460 cities, we've got a hundred percent voter turnout in the continuing care facilities, Lou, a hundred 0.98

00:52:21.500 percent. Incredible. Incredible. Well, it's all too believable. And what's unbelievable is that my

00:52:27.340 fellow citizens, well, they need to be, they need to have this pointed out to them. And I need to beg

00:52:34.220 them to, to support me because this is truly a ground up driven investigation. And it's, it's an,

00:52:41.560 what I mean by that is we are directly dependent on the support of the, of the people to continue our

00:52:46.540 investigation. Absolutely. Is there in this, the Republican party, you have recommended on your

00:52:54.720 findings of your, as a result of your investigation, uh, what you've shared with us today and more

00:53:01.320 you've recommended that the legislature consider, uh, to certify, uh, the, uh, uh, the election

00:53:11.320 and you've been met with resistance. I'm sorry, go ahead. Now that I have to, I, I really, in my

00:53:20.800 report, I, I did put an appendix in there and I laid out people have inferred from the fact that I

00:53:28.080 included a discussion of decertification. Why, why did I include it? Because I'm retired. I'm not do,

00:53:37.940 I'm not going to run for anything. I'm not looking for anything. I grew up in a lower middle class

00:53:44.980 background. My dad sold furniture and my mother was a fifth grade school teacher at the same

00:53:50.440 Catholic school that I attended. I didn't know any lawyers. I certainly didn't know any judges until I

00:53:55.560 went to law school. I want people, I want my neighbors in my old neighborhood. I want my neighbors

00:54:02.380 in my new neighbor. I want all Wisconsin citizens to know what happened. That's why I'm doing this.

00:54:07.940 Right. And I put the decertification discussion out there to say, yes, it's theoretically possible.

00:54:16.680 There is no process or procedure that's put in place. And I don't know what an order looks like

00:54:23.640 ordering Joe Biden to vacate the white house. I don't know. And I, I just, I put in all the

00:54:30.440 obstacles to it. I said, it's theoretically possible. People have mistakenly taken that as I'm endorsing

00:54:37.360 decertification. Lou, I really believe just like the Ukrainians are, and I don't know anything about

00:54:44.620 that situation, except I recognize courage when I see it. Yep. And those Ukrainians are marshalling

00:54:50.600 their resources. We who are interested in honest and transparent and accountable elections must,

00:54:57.320 must marshal our resources. And I know people would say, well, we can do more than one thing at a time.

00:55:02.440 Yeah, we can, but often you don't do both things. Well, let's first remove the systemic corruption

00:55:09.840 and secrecy and lack of transparency and lack of honesty and lack of accountability

00:55:14.860 from our Wisconsin election system. Before we start talking about something, which at best

00:55:21.600 probably leads to a symbolic gesture. That's my real, I didn't want it to pick a side in that fight.

00:55:28.320 I just wanted to tell people. That's why I put it in the second addendum to my report and not in the

00:55:33.860 report itself. But now that people have been saying that I'm for decertification, I've become a little

00:55:39.260 more explicit in my actual opinion. So if people are supporting me because of that, then I don't

00:55:46.360 deserve their support because I'm not behind it. Right. I didn't actually infer a recommendation.

00:55:52.460 I inferred a recommendation for the state authorities to consider that. That's right.

00:56:00.440 That would be an appraisal. Thank you. Yes. That's a distinction that gets lost a lot. Yes.

00:56:06.360 But there's another distinction I think that's important in this and what in my reading of the

00:56:12.260 coverage of your investigation, it sort of surprised me that because so many of the state legislators

00:56:20.120 started saying, well, we don't want to do that because there's no way in which to remove Joe

00:56:25.760 Biden from office. That really isn't the question. The question is, what does, as you put it, what does

00:56:32.520 an order for the state of Wisconsin to decertify the election? You do have ground rules for that

00:56:40.480 and laws and regulation. And that is an inherent power. It is an inherent power of the legislature

00:56:49.580 to do it. Yes, that is true. And what I'm saying is the decertification is on its own merits

00:56:58.120 an important step. Because if the legislature, if it can find sufficient courage and objective

00:57:08.820 interest in your report to delve deeper into just the areas that you've talked about here today,

00:57:16.980 it seems to me that decertification should be amongst the options that they could choose

00:57:22.920 and choose they must. Because otherwise, they are endorsing, 100%, they are endorsing corruption

00:57:31.860 in the electoral system of the state of Wisconsin. There is no other conclusion available.

00:57:36.260 The way you just said it, yeah, the way you just said it makes absolute sense. I had not

00:57:41.380 particularly considered it from that angle. I was just worried that people are sitting out there

00:57:47.340 thinking that I'm saying that, well, this will lead to the removal of Joe Biden from office. And I really

00:57:54.020 want to, I'm not so, theoretically, maybe, but the way you just said it, the way you just said it

00:58:02.580 is exactly, exactly in conformity with what my main point is, which is we can't just do this surface

00:58:10.980 thing of decertification. We've got to dig it up, root and branch. How do we beat back George Soros

00:58:19.840 and David Becker and Mark Zuckerberg and David Plouffe and the corrupt leftists at the Wisconsin Election

00:58:26.280 Commission? How do we truly set them back?

00:58:30.120 Yeah. Yeah. It's...

00:58:31.720 I'm sorry?

00:58:32.860 I'm just sitting here thinking, this is President Obama. One of the questions that I hear a lot on

00:58:39.160 on this show is who is actually running the White House? Who is in charge? And, you know,

00:58:49.380 some people mean it just exactly as they say it. Some people mean it figuratively. They're frustrated

00:58:56.320 with the current president. But the question is answered in much of what you have said here today.

00:59:03.480 There is a power in George Soros. His name itself is power on the left. And if you say that name in

00:59:14.660 mainstream corporate-owned media, you will have a reflex from management and ownership, I promise you,

00:59:24.520 within the week, if not the day. You mentioned that other name, Obama. Ah, but you shouldn't mention

00:59:32.660 that name because that name is busy at work and in the shadows. And there is no question of it.

00:59:39.660 And you can follow the roadmap of his activity, his interest, and his agenda. When people started

00:59:48.960 talking about the Biden presidency as the third term for Barack Obama, they weren't missing the point

00:59:56.880 by much. But you see what they've built. You see what they've built, despite all their money

01:00:03.160 and all of their intellect. And they are smart and they are smart and dedicated people. Despite

01:00:09.800 everything, they've built a house of cards in that what they have built relies upon the lack,

01:00:19.420 the ignorance of the majority of the citizens of this country. They are banking on the either

01:00:26.740 indifference or selective ignorance or maybe just negligent ignorance. If I've said this so many times,

01:00:38.000 if I could sit down with every person in this state and explain it to them, just as you and I have

01:00:44.200 been talking about, I know they would see it my way. And I'm just one guy. If, if one guy can turn a

01:00:52.500 state or really lead an effort, I I've had a lot of fantastic help. My friend, I have had a lot of

01:00:57.940 fantastic, but how insubstantial is any system? The foundation is rotten and it's weak of what they've

01:01:07.260 built. And it depends on lies and it depends on the selective, uh, uh, ignoring of the issue by the

01:01:16.060 corporate media. And most of all, it relies on the indifferent indifference of the majority of the

01:01:22.900 American public. But, and that's the part that I can help control. And that's why I'm doing what I'm 0.98

01:01:30.280 doing. Well, I want to, I want to commend you, uh, courage in politics is, is rare. Uh, your,

01:01:38.920 your courage, uh, is, uh, is so essential. Uh, getting to the truth is the first beginning and

01:01:47.040 changing, uh, in reforming, uh, doing better, uh, as a state, as a country. And I just applaud you for

01:01:56.160 doing so. I want to, I want to ask you at some point, if we can, at each next step, I'm going to

01:02:04.460 ask you this on the air. I'd like you to come back to give our audience, uh, to keep us informed,

01:02:12.740 uh, and whatever help we can be to you, we will be delighted, uh, to do whatever you need. Uh,

01:02:21.380 I think letters of support to the speaker of the assembly, Robin Voss, because you know what,

01:02:28.820 uh, people in a lot, first of all, I think being the speaker of any deliberative body is an almost

01:02:33.640 impossible task. Now that I've seen him up front, he's a brilliant, hardworking guy.

01:02:39.260 Often they only hear from people who are dissatisfied and who write to criticize or condemn.

01:02:44.960 Um, if he gets support for this effort, if he sees letters of support, people miss people way

01:02:53.180 underestimate the power of a personal letter of support. I'm not talking about these form things

01:02:59.080 that the interest groups have their members send out. If he sees people supporting this and truly

01:03:05.480 want to get to, as you said, as you said, the, the honest, hard look, I can't remember exactly how

01:03:13.100 you said it, but, but letting people know what's going on. If, if he sees people supportive of

01:03:19.160 that, then the more ability I'm going to have to continue. So thank you for bringing that up.

01:03:24.660 That's important. Thank you. I'm, I'm not only an older fellow, but I'm old school. And, uh,

01:03:31.040 what I used to practice, which was, uh, highly independent, highly objective journalism. I no longer

01:03:37.280 practice that I've, uh, if I'm a journalist at all, I'm an advocate advocacy, uh, journalist,

01:03:43.840 but I truly believe, uh, to, uh, to the essence of my being that the American citizens right to know

01:03:54.340 should be honored by everyone who is a public servant or has any influence whatsoever, uh, on

01:04:01.820 the public and the public must demand that the government, uh, that is supposedly working at the,

01:04:08.640 with the consent of the government, uh, honor that, that right. And too often we now have so many

01:04:15.080 institutions, uh, that are designed to, to issue propaganda, uh, to do anything, uh, but, uh, uncover

01:04:23.840 the truth and reveal it to the American people about their government. I want to, we have a tradition

01:04:29.600 here, uh, Michael, and that is, uh, each of our guests gets always the last word, and I'm going to

01:04:36.060 turn to you for that, if I may, right now. And, uh, I want to say to you how much we've, uh, we

01:04:41.940 appreciate your time and everything you've shared with us here today. It's been absolutely a pleasure.

01:04:48.480 This is a labor of love and I'm doing it just so I'm, the only reason I'm doing it is to let

01:04:54.880 everybody know what's happening so that they can decide for themselves, but then more, at least as

01:05:01.000 important. And you touched upon this just a moment ago, and you said the people's right to know,

01:05:07.820 and I believe me, I agree with that, but along with the right to know the right to know is meaningless

01:05:16.580 without application of the responsibility to manage. We are under the misimpression in this

01:05:25.560 country. And I think we've been so for the last 50 years or so that we can sort of hire out the 1.00

01:05:32.800 management of our country and of our state. At the end of the day, it's up to you, not, not your

01:05:39.720 management, not the government. It's up to you. So thank you. Thank you very, very much, Lou. I can't

01:05:45.380 tell you how much I appreciate this opportunity and look forward to talking with you again.

01:05:50.520 Thank you so much, Michael. We thank you for your time. It's been fascinating. You're serving the

01:05:57.580 people of Wisconsin and indeed the nation so well, so importantly, and we're all in your debt.

01:06:07.060 Michael Gableman, special counsel, great American. We are delighted to have had this opportunity to

01:06:15.300 talk. Look forward to our next talk and God bless you and Godspeed. Thanks so much, Michael.

01:06:22.940 Thank you, sir. Thank you.

01:06:24.920 Astonishing revelations. And as you may have read and heard, there is a tremendous political battle

01:06:31.120 underway in the state of Wisconsin and the outcome will, we hope, be one that brings greater integrity

01:06:37.820 to the Wisconsin electoral system and a great example for the rest of the states who now are

01:06:44.640 investigating their elections and many of which are preparing to reform their election laws.

01:06:50.960 Our guest here tomorrow is a man who has more than a passing interest in all of this,

01:06:56.260 the integrity of particularly the battleground states, election systems, and count. Our guest will be

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The Great America Show - April 04, 2022

WIS. SPECIAL COUNSEL GABLEMAN SAYS HE HAS EVIDENCE FELONIES WERE COMMITTED IN 2020 ELECTION

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