00:00:47.680Thank you very much for having me. Happy to be here.
00:00:49.880It's been too long. I'm grateful that our schedule's lined up. I want to get your thoughts,
00:00:54.360Just some background. So Jovan is a business owner, author, holds many incredible patents, helped expose much of the fraud in U.S. elections.
00:01:04.360You ran the election audit of Maricopa County, Arizona. I know that that is under FBI investigation.
00:01:10.800You're not really allowed to talk a lot about it.
00:01:13.300But I wanted to get your reaction to this information that has gone public about New Jersey.
00:01:19.68075,000 illegals on their jury rolls, 35,000 illegals on their voter roll.0.89
00:01:27.940Sixty six hundred pop back up your your thoughts on the New Jersey situation.
00:01:34.380Right. First, let's just start with Maricopa real quick.
00:01:36.660There were three led legs, the digital part of the drives, the actual managing, counting the ballots on the floor and then all of the digital, the actual forensics might tend to the forensics.
00:04:05.680They're not going to uncheck it because it's so obscure, and they're not going to uncheck it because they don't want to identify as an illegal.
00:04:11.360But the system automatically assumes they're legal, drops it right into Motor Voter, sends them a registration card,
00:04:17.260which is why the Democrats have issued a bill that's now in play that if the illegal assumes they could vote.
00:04:26.540Then it's not a crime if they did vote.
00:04:28.640Well, of course, you're going to assume if you get the voter registration and the ballot, right?
00:04:32.240That's the rig. Now, simultaneously to this is going on in every state.
00:04:36.680As you see the real facts heating up, the system that's trying to keep status quo is ramping up.
00:04:43.960It's Serbia, it's Venezuela, it's China, it's the machines.
00:04:49.100That's the counterbalancing narratives that unfortunately has a head start.
00:04:53.460It's the PCAPs, I infiltrated Antifa calls.
00:04:56.920That has the head start, and they're trying to regen those up,
00:05:00.360but that's not where the real battle is being fought.
00:05:02.620And unfortunately, it's a left and right thing and a both-side thing
00:05:07.480and a uniparty thing, and the number one group doing this right now,
00:05:11.340preventing it from getting fixed is unfortunately the GOP.
00:05:17.120So the the the illegals, their name is entered, but they're not voting.
00:05:23.660But like, is their name being used as a placeholder in order to generate a paper ballot?
00:05:28.980Yeah, it's all about generation the ballot.
00:05:30.680Remember, the machines only respond and register as a ballot comes into the system, period.
00:05:38.600So you've got that's why they don't want you to see the paper.
00:05:40.900That's why they don't want you to audit the paper, because that's a federal and state offense.
00:05:44.620If you muck with the paper, if you do it on the machines, it's a misdemeanor.
00:05:47.900It's voluntary rules. It's not enforceable. Here's how it works.
00:05:51.640They will get illegals coming across the border, which they help across the border.
00:05:56.480They will basically corral them and say, we'll help you get here.0.70
00:06:00.020We'll help you get a check. Here's your credit card. Here's your money.
00:06:02.080Here's this and stuff. Here's the address to use for any of your identification.
00:06:06.720It sounds we're here to help you, poor souls.
00:06:09.800but what they're really doing is they're making sure all that support stuff that comes later
00:06:16.780goes to them. Now, the illegal will cycle back in and get that credit card and get that ID,
00:06:23.400that driver's license, which they're told to do. But when the ballots come in and the voter
00:06:27.560registration comes in, they get a hold of them. And that's what's used. Remember, you got to think
00:06:33.680about, you know, Denise D'Souza was correct. 2000 mules is a thing, but you got to understand how
00:06:38.680it works. They've got to get an overabundance of ballots into the system. When you've got 30,000
00:06:44.940illegals in one place, it all goes to one central thing, and nobody seems to remember who put them
00:06:50.700up or who destroyed them. They get collected. They take these back to hotel rooms or businesses,
00:06:56.160NGOs. They watch the election. They're looking at the numbers in real time. That's the anonymous
00:07:01.540incursions you see. They got them all laid out by precinct. They know where the precinct's going to
00:07:06.760be where these people are. And as they need votes to keep on pushing it over the edge,
00:07:12.720somebody opens the ballot. It's called ballot tracking. They open the legal ballot, take it
00:07:17.520out, use the ballot, use the security envelope, mark the ballot how they want, put it in the
00:07:22.040security envelope, scribble a signature on it. That's why so many of them are the same, but not
00:07:26.580the real people. And that's what the ballot mules distribute. And the way they try to hide it is not
00:07:33.100having it in bulk and that's why they run around to different drop boxes dropping in that's how
00:07:38.560it's done it's in maricopa there's one field one field blank field no mailboxes and you're not
00:07:47.180supposed to forward ballots over 2 000 voters registered in that field somehow the ballots
00:07:52.320always disappear the state says it's allowed because that's where we mail for the homeless
00:07:56.540wow okay and then i those are legal ballots voted illegally
00:08:04.020okay that makes a lot more sense is this why suddenly the governor of new jersey now that
00:08:11.900all of this is like coming out in the public she's saying i'm not handing over their private data
00:08:17.440we're not giving you any of their information these are new jersey citizens even though
00:08:21.520they're not citizens. She keeps calling them citizens. Well, they're using it's not New Jersey
00:08:26.500citizens. It's people that are living in New Jersey. It'd be a reticent, a resident, technically,
00:08:32.540not a citizen. Literally, how this came about is a certain number. Look, I sat down with President
00:08:38.160Trump and I basically said, we either have to purge the voter rolls or, sir, we've got to get
00:08:43.680rid of voter rolls. And he says, I probably can't get rid of voter rolls, but we can take steps.
00:08:48.420he took friendly states and the friendly states said sure check it out we don't know if we have
00:08:54.620any problems they checked it out we started finding these and as they started finding them
00:08:59.980all hell broke loose and all these states that do this to swing elections to keep democrats in
00:09:06.380they're refusing to turn over the voter rolls under you'll see people's information you'll have0.98
00:09:12.500people's information it's total crap it's total bs and it's that old line we're the government0.98
00:09:18.560we're here to help you and we're going to protect you crap that's what they're trying to use to0.97
00:09:22.600prevent it president trump has responded and says okay you're not going to get any uh medicaid money
00:09:27.700which is he can do yeah so now it's a war of wills let's see who breaks
00:09:34.660and he's here to play for the long haul it's interesting that uh you know democrat i know
00:09:41.320the GOP has issues, too, but just Democrats will regularly say we're not going to hand over this
00:09:47.580data because you'll use it nefariously. Right. But then you have someone like Ma'am Donnie in New
00:09:52.940York who literally just leaked an entire list of people that have extra homes in New York.
00:10:00.300Now people know, hey, this is a vacation house that you can go rob. And he feels totally justified
00:10:05.620because he's trying to pressure them into paying more tax money to the governor.
00:10:09.800Well, we don't have DNC or GOP. We have the DNC-GOP or the GOP-DNC. There are not two parties. There is a ruling class that has determined we know better, and they've set this country on a course that GOP is 100% equally culpable and bad as the DNC.
00:10:31.440that's hard to hear i'll give me i'll give you an example and it's obvious when you when your
00:10:39.260eyes open to it look when i i innovated the idea of a full forensic audit here's what you need to
00:10:46.140look at here's what we'll do right for an election never been done before the closest we had was
00:10:50.980hanging chads and that was looking at a few uh handfuls of 10 000 ballots arizona was over 2
00:10:57.880million. When you begin to understand how they do it, and you begin to understand what's up,
00:11:04.040that's what they tend to shut down. None of these guys ever played by the rule. All of them use it.
00:11:11.420All of them abuse the same system. But it was the GOP that kept the information from coming out.
00:11:17.760We don't have two parties. This has been abused for a long time. You think that's bad? Look at
00:11:24.540how many states, Illinois being an example, where you can look at a lawmaker's name and you can look
00:11:30.900at now new derivatives of that name and you can find 15,000 people kind of using that one family
00:11:38.600name that defies all birth records and everything. And they have one thing in common. They're all
00:11:42.720getting welfare checks or COVID checks. Those checks are getting cashed, but there aren't
00:11:47.860real people there. This is a big extortion racket.
00:11:54.540i have i have wondered that you know when they started saying oh there's 12 million people
00:12:01.620receiving checks from social security there's hundreds of and i'm like that would be the
00:12:05.940easiest arrest on planet earth it's a layup hey uh you cashed a check for 18 months in a row
00:12:12.620right we want that money back but they didn't do it and the reason they didn't do it is because
00:12:18.460it's not going to real people and it's all connected to the political parties who are
00:12:23.260all benefiting from it and lawmakers and it would put lawmakers under the jail it's a kind of a
00:12:29.140hidden way to steal from the systems and that's why you don't see it because they basically tell
00:12:34.600the president we'll have a constitutional crisis everybody will riot we'll have a civil war you
00:12:38.700can't tell everybody sir oh no by the way that's why with 12 million people over a hundred years
00:12:44.400old getting these bs checks they also didn't let them be compared to the voter rolls because they've
00:12:50.260been voting the entire time too. Wow. But then again, all these psychological came out. Don't
00:12:56.340clean the voter rolls. It's the machines. Just cleaning the voter rolls is sweeping a dirt floor.
00:13:01.480It's all psychological warfare to keep everybody away from the truth.
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00:14:54.460OK, so when President Trump or the assistant attorney general over civil rights, Harmeet Dillon, says we checked just four states and found two hundred and seventy eight thousand illegal immigrants, all of that is it's just about getting a ballot out there so that they can put it into play.0.55
00:15:15.280That's correct. 100 percent. It's being found. But remember, the president doesn't have the power to control the state.0.71
00:15:23.500Harmeet does not have the power to control the state. We don't have federal elections.
00:15:29.640We have state elections that happen to have a federal component on them.
00:15:35.280If we voted for all the federal offices on one election day and we voted for all state or local offices on a different day and different ballot, he'd have total control.
00:15:45.100But that's part of the rig of the system way back when they pushed them all together.
00:15:49.020And that's what usurped federal law, because state law, unfortunately, trumps that the state can do certain things they want to do.
00:15:57.400And that's where the battle is. It doesn't matter that we know it. We've known it for a long time.
00:16:01.320It matters. Will the state cooperate? Well, they don't cooperate. They file suits.
00:16:05.000So it can't be done. And it's like the Save Act. Right. I've been harping for years about the Save Act.
00:16:11.560when it came out, I basically did an analysis. Here's all the loopholes in it that we have to
00:16:17.280fix it. Now you see the SAVE Act getting to the end, but we've got 90 some odd days till the
00:16:22.900midterms. The law says 90 days prior to any election, you cannot change the rules. You
00:16:30.620cannot change the terms. You cannot change the voter rolls. You cannot change the procedures.
00:16:35.700Now, do you understand why it's finally get some traction and may be approved? It's only theatrics.
00:16:41.280It's just like doing full forensic audits.
00:16:43.440When I pioneered full forensic audits, everybody came out and we want to do them.
00:17:17.100So they can say we sued them all, but it was totally moot because they waited to run out the clock and then did it.
00:17:22.960Yeah. In the six years I've been covering political news, running out the clock is one of the most common strategies to make people think something's happened, but lull them into security that, you know, oh, well, we try.
00:17:36.980Let me ask you this. You mentioned speaking with President Trump. He's saying, listen, I'm not a king, despite what Democrats say. I have limitations on what I can do, say, federal, state. Is the executive order that he's pushing trying to get the Postal Service to somewhat clean up the voter rolls or at least control as they go out and they come back? Is that a good move?
00:17:59.720It's a no, it's not the Postal Service to clean up the voter rolls. It's to create a better transparent system.
00:18:10.980Let's go back. There's no rules of enforcement when it comes to the voter rolls.
00:18:16.080It technically should be a crime. It is not a crime. They've opened it up to so many places, and that's how they pop back on.
00:18:22.400They don't even know who has read-write ability to the voter rolls anymore.
00:18:25.780One of the loopholes is, and I'll give you Maricopa numbers, in Maricopa, when I'm doing the audit, they kept on refusing to say officially how much of the envelopes they got back, undeliverable, no such person, no such number, dead, moved, unknown.
00:20:17.760Well, I'm trying to get a hold of those images.
00:20:19.740Somebody prior to the election in 2020 took that law and put a temporary moratorium on it and said, no, we'll only hold these images this time for 30 days.
00:20:29.900So by the time we even got the audit, which is six months later, those images had already been destroyed.
00:21:31.420One of the other common denominators that we had in 2020 never happened before in history.
00:21:36.660It's like, oh, I saw the votes on TV change. That's never been the vote. And no, they didn't change. That was crap to make you think it was the machines.
00:21:43.240One interesting thing that happened that began in 2020 is all of a sudden states, oops, I forgot to put something on the ballot after they mailed a few hundred thousand.0.97
00:21:52.420Right. Oops. Oh, we forgot something. Yeah. So we got to reprint them and send new ones.
00:21:57.060It's only a way to get extra inventory in the system. You're never able to audit it.
00:22:01.540And that's why Maricopa County had about 2.5 million registered people on all of the rolls for Maricopa, and they printed 4,089,000 ballots.