The Great America Show - ZELENSKY KICKED OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE. WHO TAKES THE BLAME FOR NO EPSTEIN FILES？

00:00:00.000 hello everybody and welcome to the great america show it's great to have you with us today thank

00:00:06.540 you so much for joining us on this friday night in america beautiful day not a beautiful day for

00:00:12.680 ukraine's president vladimir zelinski zelinski was at the white house today before uh after

00:00:18.080 meeting with some members of congress and senators on capitol hill where he's here

00:00:21.980 to make a mineral deal where he's going to sign over some of the mineral rights that ukraine has

00:00:26.660 although it didn't turn out according to plan take a listen to just a short clip of the meeting

00:00:32.880 uh the 10 plus long meeting that was uh aired out for the media to listen between jd vance

00:00:39.040 donald trump and zelinski your country is in big trouble can i no no you've done a lot of talking 0.97

00:00:45.280 your country is in big trouble i know you're not winning you're not winning this i you have a damn 0.99

00:00:51.500 good chance of coming out okay because of us mr president we are staying in our country staying

00:00:56.400 strong from the very beginning of the war we've been alone and we are thankful i said thanks you 1.00

00:01:01.620 haven't been in this cabinet you haven't been in this cabinet we gave you through the stupid 0.97

00:01:05.620 president 350 billion dollars you we gave you military equipment you and you men are brave but 0.98

00:01:12.200 they had to use our military if you didn't have our military equipment you invited me you didn't have

00:01:18.060 our military equipment this war would have been over in two weeks it's sad that the people of 1.00

00:01:23.820 ukraine have to deal with that imbecile that idiot who's getting the country further into a war that 1.00

00:01:29.060 vladimir putin frankly is ready to end so now it sits on zelinski he has the chance for a ceasefire he 0.99

00:01:35.940 has a chance for this thing to be completely over for his people to not have another person another 0.99

00:01:40.440 live lost and not another child another uh military member and not another wife no more deaths 0.58

00:01:46.720 and zelinski comes to washington dc and puts on that act what a shame uh needless to say the press

00:01:54.060 conference that was supposed to take uh uh take aim after following that uh oval office visit was

00:02:00.780 canceled as president trump asked zelinski to leave the white house and told him to come back

00:02:05.200 when he's ready to negotiate and end this war um zelinski leaving the white house doing a little

00:02:10.280 grandstanding on twitter uh tweeting out the following thank you america thank you for your support

00:02:14.880 thank you for this visit thank you at potus congress and the american people ukraine needs

00:02:20.620 just a lasting peace and we are ready uh working exactly for that but that's not true zelinski doesn't

00:02:27.320 want peace if zelinski wanted peace he would have came to the white house today signed the mineral

00:02:31.440 rights deal and we would have ended this thing the thing could have probably been ended by the end of

00:02:36.120 uh or the beginning of next week yet zelinski leaves the white house on very very bad terms and the

00:02:42.440 truth of the matter is uh is there is no ukraine without america there's no deal without america

00:02:47.900 president trump has been very outspoken on what he wants he wants peace he wants this thing ended he

00:02:53.720 wants the fighting stopped he wants the lives lost to stop that's not too much to ask for but zelinski's 0.53

00:02:59.660 hesitancy to to stop the war i think it tells you everything you need to know about where zelinski's

00:03:05.680 mind is right now uh and how he wants this thing to keep going so he can continue to bring in

00:03:11.020 billions and billions of dollars uh risking more lives than it's even worth absolutely disgusting

00:03:17.680 folks our guest today one you know very very well from this show john solomon he's editor-in-chief of

00:03:23.780 just the news he's also the host of just the news no noise on real america's voice he joins us today

00:03:28.880 john it's great to have you here on the great america show i appreciate you joining us you were

00:03:33.060 one of lou dobbs's favorite guests and you were instrumental john in getting us started in this

00:03:37.900 whole podcasting world so hats off to you and we appreciate everything you've done i appreciate

00:03:42.340 personally everything you've done i miss the big guy an awful lot but i know his show is in really

00:03:47.300 really good hands and uh it's uh it's an honor to be back on and it's great to be talking to you john

00:03:52.480 i appreciate that john the kind words let's get started i mean there's so much to talk about today

00:03:57.000 but obviously the news of the day so once he leaves the white house after apparently being thrown out by

00:04:02.040 donald trump no press conference happening tonight um what the hell's going on well i think we saw it

00:04:08.200 in full uh full stream which is that uh zelensky wanted to come here and and show the world that he

00:04:13.720 would stand up to president trump but the problem is there's no one else that has invested more than

00:04:18.040 200 billion dollars in the ukraine war except the united states of america uh there's nobody that has

00:04:23.180 the military might to uh take on uh russia should ukraine need it uh we saw that yesterday great britain

00:04:31.180 couldn't answer the question could they take on russia by themselves we know the answer the answer is

00:04:35.020 no um and uh there's nobody that brought vladimir putin to the point of potentially making a deal

00:04:40.960 deal where he's willing to give land back maybe put some money into reconstruction allow for a

00:04:46.600 demilitarized zone with peacekeepers than donald trump and why uh president zelensky would come here

00:04:52.560 and bite the hand that had those three cards in it uh is a little odd my guess is it's a breakup before

00:04:58.980 a makeup and that zelensky eventually come back but i think we have to look at what happened

00:05:03.560 in the lead up to this event donald trump had an unbelievably warm meeting with uh the most liberal

00:05:11.120 prime minister great britain sat in a long time prime minister starmer and starmer sounded like he

00:05:16.300 was on board with donald trump's plan and he said listen we got to put more european money in security

00:05:20.820 that happened beforehand president was with uh president trump was with uh the french uh president

00:05:26.120 macron macron could not be more on board in talking about the historic opportunity that

00:05:31.160 donald trump opened the people that zelensky would normally turn to if he was going to uh get into a

00:05:37.800 tiff with president trump france and um england and germany appear to be more on donald trump's side

00:05:44.560 than zelensky's romantic vision of hey let's keep this war going and see how many more people can die

00:05:49.660 i think zelensky has no dealing hand and he was testing the limits of the president

00:05:54.400 and he hit them pretty quickly and he got kicked out um uh you know i think zelensky felt wow he

00:06:00.480 wants this mineral deal so bad he'll do anything for me the answer is no he's not that sort of guy

00:06:05.600 that's not the art of the deal for donald trump 350 billion dollars is a lot of money to send to

00:06:10.180 another country but i think in the grand scheme of things john with how much money we've spent

00:06:13.600 on way dumb things in this country donald trump is willing to write it off as a loss if he's not

00:06:19.860 going to spend another dollar in this country and i don't think zelensky sees that the way it was and 1.00

00:06:24.240 i mean you see zelensky pull up there john not in a suit and tie in his stupid outfit donald trump 0.99

00:06:29.340 even commenting on it when he gets out the car and uh you know donald trump is sitting there using 0.97

00:06:33.800 an analogy saying the cards are not in your hand and zelensky in his in his sarcastic way says i'm

00:06:39.980 not playing cards i he came here it seems like you've said to see where trump is but also to to make it

00:06:45.560 like i'm the boss um in no situation john does he win this war that's the bottom line i think and i

00:06:51.680 think we've all right sure what he's getting right now is a concession it's in not in vladimir putin's

00:06:58.120 best interest to stop this thing because if he wanted to john the truth of the matter is he could

00:07:02.380 take all of ukraine he doesn't want all of ukraine he would have taken it already right uh he would

00:07:06.180 have moved into kiev and and put further further to the west he doesn't want it he wanted what he

00:07:10.660 originally wanted and uh and i think he's at the point now where he says okay enough is enough

00:07:15.220 but now you've got this man john who's gotten 350 billion dollars allegedly that's the number

00:07:20.100 um and he's got a ceasefire which he's been calling for and donald trump calls his bluff i mean how does

00:07:26.660 the rest of the world perceive this now as a man that they said was modern day churchill we're we're

00:07:31.560 gonna we're gonna find out quickly but rest of the the key people who matter the england and francis

00:07:36.360 and germans of the world the president already has briefed them on what the deal is and when

00:07:40.520 germany hears that russia is willing to give some of the land back that they're willing to put some

00:07:45.320 money towards reconstruction that they're willing to accept the european peacekeeping uh uh peacekeepers

00:07:50.800 in a demilitarized zone like hey that's that's better than we thought uh putin would give right

00:07:55.540 and so i think they're looking at like well what is zelinski holding out for and i think

00:07:59.120 how france and great britain acts reacts to this in the next 24 hours will tell us a lot about where this

00:08:05.520 goes but uh i think the president said something profound this is the most important quote that came out

00:08:10.300 during the middle of the shouting match you either make a deal or we are out the united states not

00:08:17.240 going to support you without our weaponry uh ukraine couldn't fight uh a much smaller country and i think

00:08:24.120 at this point they're also out of men they're running out of men quickly and i think that donald trump

00:08:28.840 just laid down a red line and zelinski's got to go back and think wait a second he just said if i don't

00:08:33.060 make a deal they're out where am i going to turn to where's the weaponry and the answer is that there is

00:08:37.160 no one going to give the weaponry the other thing too john is the whole nato proposition which is

00:08:41.240 probably why britain's on board and france is on board because there really is no nato without

00:08:45.440 america and i've been saying this uh we may be out of nato john before this war is even finished

00:08:51.440 between ukraine and russia which was uh which is what the media's premise of of what this war started

00:08:56.680 do you have any sort of different inclination on why this thing started dating back to

00:09:00.900 maybe 2014 some timeline around then when it originated i think it's um listen i think this

00:09:07.840 all begins when i cover some of this in my book from 2020 fallout um the obama administration thought

00:09:15.500 they were going to appease russia and so they did this reboot with russia hillary clinton brock obama

00:09:19.640 joe biden they ingratiated themselves and gave russia lots of things nuclear uh energy contracts in

00:09:26.720 america and in return the democrats got rich themselves uh bill clinton gets that 500 000

00:09:32.160 speech fee and lots of democrats are making business with russia and then uh the united states

00:09:39.040 thought well we're so nice now with russia i think we should push out their guy in ukraine because our 0.50

00:09:44.060 democratic donors don't like um president um the president at the time uh because he was too aligned

00:09:50.920 with russia and they tried to play that hand and the united states probably played a role

00:09:55.800 in uh throwing out victor yanukovych the president at the time who was the democratically elected

00:10:01.320 legitimately elected leader of ukraine and russia like wait a second that's not the america we were

00:10:05.920 just dealing with and that triggers a war and i think the most important thing donald trump could

00:10:10.040 do over the next several weeks as americans absorb what happened today and it's absorbed the next steps in

00:10:15.680 this um uh fight with ukraine is to reveal whether the united states played a role whether the cia or the

00:10:24.020 state department or other intelligence agencies played a role in throwing out one of our allies

00:10:29.260 own elected leaders we don't throw out people in in democrat countries just because we don't like

00:10:34.080 where they are if we did and i don't know if we did there's certainly some strong inclinations that

00:10:39.180 we did bob woodward's book talks about some interesting things that the hint at it there was

00:10:44.140 an intercept of a conversation between victoria newland and jeffrey pyatt jeffrey pyatt they would

00:10:49.200 kiev u.s ambassador at the time newland the architect of this failed ukraine policy if we

00:10:55.020 played a role in that that probably is the trigger for what then happened so the maiden revolution was

00:11:00.140 not really of the ukrainian people if it was u.s inspired or u.s funded then the last 10 years have

00:11:06.540 been an unnecessary for disaster because the united states made a bad diplomatic move now i'm not saying

00:11:12.840 that's what happened yet because we don't know but i think the president could answer that question

00:11:17.000 and if he did we would know it's either russian propaganda or it's true and whichever is true

00:11:22.180 it can help us understand how to navigate the next 10 years and i think it's important for our allies

00:11:27.100 to know what role we played but whatever that history is now the moment is here and you know it's

00:11:33.140 interesting to watch how the media has looked at this but um politico had a headline out right away

00:11:38.880 and i think it's the right way to look at what happened disaster for ukraine in the over office i think

00:11:45.540 zelensky overplayed his hand and it's a disaster for ukraine because there's nowhere to go they they

00:11:51.720 need the united states and there's not this deal looks like it could be something that ukraine could

00:11:56.220 get far better than where it stands now with uh it's a head scratcher why zelensky would do it either

00:12:01.600 it's ego or uh he misread the room but whatever the case is i suspect that zelensky will calm down and

00:12:08.360 come back and make the right deal because the alternative is uh no u.s and a lot more death in ukraine 0.96

00:12:14.400 yeah he's got no other plans i i think it was probably a big ego thing you know the other

00:12:19.720 thing john and you perhaps know about this just as much as the great lou dobbs did because you guys

00:12:24.280 covered this forever and it was and you know it didn't really dawn on me until last night i was

00:12:30.060 watching cnn caitlin collins had on gordon sunlin the other famous figure in this whole situation and

00:12:36.220 think back about the connection that donald trump was impeached and it dawned on me a little bit further

00:12:41.360 today when donald trump sat in the oval office and said all we want is a thank you and i'm sitting

00:12:45.580 there waiting for the democrats to come out and say it's a quid pro quo yeah you want to thank you

00:12:49.580 i don't think they can play that card a second time i might be wrong but they might try it because

00:12:53.940 they got no but yeah nobody is is talking about what donald trump's whole problem was with ukraine

00:12:59.480 the first time it's the corruption the corruption didn't go away and it was democrat corruption

00:13:04.080 listen the democrats have used uh ukraine as a piggy bank for their american politics you know

00:13:10.120 uh victor pinchuk one of the largest uh donors to the clinton foundation and the clinton machinery

00:13:15.580 this has been a piggy bank george shore is long interested in ukraine though he's not a ukrainian

00:13:20.040 he's hungarian but he's had long vast interest in in ukraine and uh right after the made on revolution

00:13:26.080 of 90 uh of 2014 he announced he was going to go in and make a big investment in ukraine so

00:13:31.700 he was leveraged business there uh the democrats have a uh an allegiance to ukraine that has more

00:13:38.720 to do with their political alliances than the good of the country just think about what the democratic

00:13:43.780 party did for ukraine over the last 30 years it made it give up its nuclear weapons which would 0.65

00:13:49.160 have been a heck of a deterrent for russia uh it then um uh destabilized the country in 2014

00:13:55.480 didn't didn't provide any military support and then it sold the false hope

00:13:59.860 that ukraine would be a nato member the nato charter definition of what a nato country should

00:14:06.040 be doesn't apply to ukraine ukraine touches russia nato was never designed to uh be a an entry point

00:14:13.980 for those that actually are on the border with russia so um they've sold these false things because

00:14:19.060 that's what their funders wanted uh but not it's not been what's been good for the ukrainian people

00:14:23.780 yeah but john if you speak like the way you're speaking and i'm speaking right now

00:14:27.540 we're accused of being russian agents if people just went back and look at the history of things

00:14:32.040 um donald trump should have never been impeached the over the ukrainian phone call uh and i think

00:14:38.000 things would have been a lot different than they they're panning out to be right now uh before we

00:14:42.480 move on before we head to break uh wendy what do you think the time on is on this unless he goes back

00:14:47.960 to ukraine today when can we expect to hear from the fella again about what he wants to do

00:14:52.540 um it's hard to say i think if if zelensky leaves the united states uh his ability to get back in

00:15:01.100 the negotiating table may be um harder and more difficult i think donald trump will let let a

00:15:07.160 little bit more time pass and not just suddenly engage and ukraine without u.s resources will be

00:15:13.800 far more weakened quicker and then maybe putin doesn't want to give up as much as he's willing

00:15:17.580 to give up now uh i think zelensky might want to stay in town take a quick poll of his european

00:15:23.600 allies and maybe re-gauge and reassess and uh you know he could look like the hero by coming back and

00:15:29.800 saying i i calm down and i'm sorry mr president let's work on something that's probably a bigger

00:15:34.980 win for him uh but there's probably some people in his ear there are some european union diplomats that

00:15:41.580 think that putin doesn't really want a peace deal i think he does i think i had my my my gut tells me

00:15:47.120 from what he's offering that it's a real legitimate deal i'm not a fan of putin putin was the aggressor

00:15:52.040 here he violated international law putin wanted one time to give me an interview i said no i didn't

00:15:57.080 want it uh the there is uh because you know it was a propaganda interview at the time and it came

00:16:02.740 with strictures that i wouldn't accept i'm not a fan of latimer putin's uh i i recognize he's the

00:16:08.260 aggressor here but in in war the person who's winning ends up in a stronger position than the person

00:16:14.740 that's losing and donald trump was trying to rebalance that and give ukraine a fighting chance

00:16:18.540 yeah and i don't think zolensky can afford to leave the united states or it'll be a longer delay towards

00:16:23.900 peace well so you're saying the matter of days you know the crazy thing john before we're gonna break

00:16:27.620 here donald trump's been in politics for a really long time but really the last 10 years you know in

00:16:33.840 the power of of the president and running for president and i've never heard him get that heated in a

00:16:39.340 meeting before with any world leader i mean what does that tell you about how fed up with this guy

00:16:45.100 he is yeah yeah listen you know it's interesting i think what drives president trump on this is not

00:16:50.820 even the personality conflict with the comedian turned president it's he can't stand to see men

00:16:58.000 and women in ukrainian uniform run into a battlefield every day and just get blown up because they don't

00:17:02.800 have the capability of winning i just he said it many times he said it to me personally he hates to see

00:17:08.360 unnecessary waste of life in war if you know there's a meaning or there's a purpose or there's

00:17:13.100 an end game to it okay let's do it but he doesn't see it and he's you know he he has said i've looked

00:17:19.900 at some of these these reconnaissance satellite photos and it makes me sick to see how many people

00:17:24.620 are dying in a battle where the battle lines move a mile and each they're not moving anywhere i think

00:17:29.600 he just wants to end the carnage and i think that um zolensky has to maybe mis recalculate where

00:17:35.980 donald trump stands from yeah completely unnecessary folks we're talking with you guys

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00:17:48.980 night on real america's voice we're coming right back with john stay with us i want to get john's

00:17:53.460 take on what's going on in the fbi and what's going on the doj and where are these epstein files

00:17:58.200 we're coming right back with john stay with us

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00:19:01.440 folks we're back with john solomon of justthenews.com our number one source of news you can catch him

00:19:09.120 each and every night just the news no noise on real america's voice john uh you know this as i say

00:19:16.100 this about many things because you're very in the loop on everything um the fbi and the doj so pam

00:19:22.960 bondi comes out two nights ago and says she's releasing these documents knowing damn well that

00:19:27.940 it wasn't all the documents there was about 200 pages john it was a nothing burger they knew it

00:19:32.600 was a burger so why let me ask you this question why does pam bondi come out as her first big test 0.52

00:19:38.560 as as attorney general and do this and this big dump with these influencers instead of just taking

00:19:43.760 a step back john and saying you know what we're gonna have to delay people would have been pissed

00:19:47.380 about the delay but they would have said okay it might be worth it in the end whose calculation is

00:19:53.280 this that completely missed yeah i um i think this is on pam bondi's team i think the white house was

00:20:00.020 caught off guard my intel is that the white house had no idea she was going to do what she did yesterday

00:20:04.920 these influencers were there for some other reasons and she hijacked it is what i'm told or her team

00:20:10.800 hijacked it i should say and you know these influencers went in with the belief they were getting

00:20:15.200 something meaningful they went out and said positive things and then they realized oh my gosh

00:20:19.440 there's nothing in this these are all old documents which by the way i'm certain i've confirmed the

00:20:24.600 justice department and fbi knew these were uh uh basically documents previously released with the

00:20:30.960 exception there's one document that's new there is a evidence list of things that the fbi hasn't

00:20:35.340 turned over that that's important it gives us some sense of what we might be able to get in the future

00:20:39.700 but the whole optics was strange they miss they took friends of the white house and and had them

00:20:45.880 go out and be shills for something that they then get savage take a look at jack posobics and and um dc

00:20:52.320 drano's uh twitter things they they're getting savage for having fallen for this uh this ruse uh it was

00:21:00.280 an amateurish thing and an otherwise pretty successful start to the trump presidency um what they could have

00:21:06.180 done is hey this is what the fbi claimed they found this is a joke we we looked at it it's all old stuff

00:21:11.400 except for this one document and we're so determined now that they this is what they claim

00:21:15.160 we're going back and we're going to go get the american people what it is and watch how we do it

00:21:18.820 that would have been a winning moment but they tried to fake it for something it wasn't and it

00:21:23.200 immediately boomeranged on them and i think they wasted some credibility on their own home turf

00:21:28.020 and they you know made a mockery of of the other side you get this gave free shots at it

00:21:32.600 the fbi really was dragged along for that i think cash patel is the person who was digging and looking

00:21:39.120 for those missing documents helped uncover them recently and that's missing you don't get that

00:21:43.760 sense from the letter but cash patel and his team were the people that found the documents that had

00:21:48.080 not been responsive previously and they were working to get those there are so many different

00:21:52.500 ways they could have played this that would have been credibility um building but i think at the end of

00:21:57.320 the day they chose a credibility eroding now it's is it a big deal will people remember

00:22:02.580 seven days or no probably not maybe some of the influencers well because they're getting

00:22:06.260 savage they'll be a little more careful next time but i think at the end of the day they'll get these

00:22:10.640 documents and when there is one very important document in here there's a three-page list of

00:22:14.860 documents and evidence that was gathered at um at epstein's home and there's even talking about

00:22:22.280 a money with that uh an envelope with money in it is that money because for sex for women or was it

00:22:29.440 money for um a black male because he owns stuff those are important questions we could get answered 0.89

00:22:34.960 in the next round and i suspect the next round of releases of documents whether it's jfk rfk mlk or

00:22:42.600 epstein 2 uh they'll be done in a little different manner uh and i think at the end of the day this was

00:22:48.540 just stage managed by some people may not have even been pan body right it might have been people

00:22:52.020 below are feeding the ag ag is very busy so the ag could just got a fed a line of baloney but they

00:22:57.940 played a bad they made a bad sandwich of it and and i think uh they they hurt the credibility

00:23:02.940 yesterday they made a mockery of what's generally a real commitment to transparency in this presidency

00:23:07.640 the thing that's mind-blowing to me john is 200 documents spam bonnie was the attorney general

00:23:12.300 of florida you know damn well john there's no chance that's the last of the documents right yeah

00:23:17.140 you and i would know that like in two seconds john you don't get you get more than 200 documents on

00:23:21.980 like a petty larceny crime file i mean yeah that's the thing that's so mind-blowing how many in your

00:23:27.540 opinion how many documents do you think there are i will guess that there are about 25 to 35 000

00:23:34.020 pieces of evidence that includes documents envelopes pictures photos uh books uh and uh there's another

00:23:42.740 thing when you listen uh to pam bonnie that's important to see and also when you look at this

00:23:47.260 original set of documents they're redacting anything that went before the grand jury or involves the

00:23:52.400 privacy act which means most of the good stuff is going to be behind those little black lines that

00:23:57.140 drive us nuts and uh even in these first documents that were released they were heavily redacted

00:24:02.540 some of the documents are meaningless they're probably meaningful documents but they're meaningless

00:24:06.460 to the american people right because everything's redacted so this is not going to be a full act of

00:24:11.640 transparency even when we get all the documents but there are laws about grand jury material being

00:24:16.500 released there are laws about uh privacy act information there still can be a significant

00:24:22.000 amount of information we can learn and i think you know increasingly lawmakers i've talked to in

00:24:29.120 congress who've never been willing to say this before though they've thought it but have said it

00:24:33.040 on my show in the last few weeks one of the questions we need to examine doesn't mean it happened but we need

00:24:37.880 to know the answer is when the government came in possession of this incriminating evidence or while

00:24:44.360 uh epstein had it before he was in the confines of the u.s government's custody was it used to leverage

00:24:51.320 businessmen or politicians because it's embarrassing stuff that's a really important national security

00:24:56.820 question and i think that's a journey we can all go on together and get answers to uh but the fbi has

00:25:02.580 to start cooperating better and uh cash patel personally intervened to find these documents they're on his

00:25:07.820 desk now it'll take a week or two to go through them make sure that what's appropriate and make sure

00:25:12.640 there's no lead information that they haven't followed that they should still investigate

00:25:15.620 but the cash patel and his fbi are going to get these documents out and hopefully the next time

00:25:20.740 it'll be done without the justice department's sort of uh well awkward stage management i guess is the

00:25:26.220 way to look at it john the the one of the documents they released yesterday was a black book which had

00:25:30.940 been out i looked back at my email because i'd sent it to lou right the unredacted version and i i looked i

00:25:36.700 sent it to lou in december of 2023 yeah that's right like you know i mean that's crazy now that that

00:25:42.500 that that's came out in a civil case that came out of the criminal case against um maxwell and i

00:25:47.740 think you know this was uh and listen the fbi knew that this wasn't big information uh i think the way

00:25:53.780 it got spun by by the justice department was unfortunate maybe it was a young aide maybe it

00:25:58.420 was the attorney general self i want to give her the benefit of doubt i don't know which one it was

00:26:02.220 but whoever was responsible for it it deserved the cause of transparency that president trump and suzy

00:26:08.580 wiles and pam bondi i know to be committed to and and we we know uh cash patel is what he did to get

00:26:14.680 the russia gate documents out um it just was it was a you know they had a bad day they stubbed their

00:26:20.400 toe now let's hope the next time they come back and do it better for the american people now i'm

00:26:24.400 talking to a few people about this one of them recently tony schaefer i don't know if you know

00:26:28.000 i know tony i had tony on the other day and we're talking about this john in my opinion the only

00:26:34.040 thing that should be redacted in these documents is uh victims names people who have been you know

00:26:39.400 from this right everyone who was involved in this it's fair game the way i look at it is he's a

00:26:44.500 private citizen he wasn't a government employee or any type that we know about right so why would

00:26:50.480 there be any sorts of redactions number one number two tony uh is is a very firm believer that

00:26:56.200 uh epstein wasn't just working for foreign governments he was a tool of the united states

00:27:01.200 government on the payroll of the united states government we need to find that out we need to

00:27:05.300 have any ever been able well i haven't been able to prove it i mean certainly people have suspected

00:27:08.960 it and it would make some sense maybe it would even explain why the first deal was such a sweet

00:27:13.200 art deal because he really got off easy in the first case uh but there's a whole nother you know

00:27:18.560 possibility which is that that um pressure was applied uh in that first case and we should get to

00:27:24.560 the bottom of that did were prosecutors uh under pressure not to go more aggressively because it would

00:27:30.300 embarrass people across the globe or in the united states these are things that the transparency

00:27:35.200 now on the issue you know i'm a journalist so i want the maximum amount of transparency and i always

00:27:41.580 argue and i fight for it and sometimes i sue for it many times i've sued for it in the last few years to

00:27:46.080 get information there are some specific laws if a piece of evidence was only gathered under a grand jury

00:27:53.600 subpoena uh known as 6e power and it was not gathered previously for that uh and it was only

00:28:00.960 presented to the grand jury and never was in a court file or public proceeding the law requires that it

00:28:06.300 remain redacted that's called grand jury secrecy it's something we've all lived with as journalists now

00:28:10.300 if the fbi gathered it beforehand and then the grand jury just subpoenaed it to get it into its thing

00:28:15.880 the fbi could then uh give uh that document up and just give the version that wasn't sent to the

00:28:21.880 grand jury and one of the things that cash patel's team is doing now is going through this new batch

00:28:27.000 of documents they found in the southern district of new york and finding out was all right this looks

00:28:30.980 like it went to the grand jury but didn't we have it before the grand jury could we release it in the

00:28:34.800 form before the grand jury i think the fbi will achieve some pretty significant transparency but there

00:28:40.580 are some strictures about under current laws you could actually be prosecuted for releasing

00:28:45.740 60 grand jury materials so there are some things and i think when you you know when you heard pam

00:28:50.660 we're going to release everything that wasn't ever really going to be true there are laws that say

00:28:55.040 you can't release certain things um so we'll see where it ends up i think we're going to learn a lot

00:28:59.400 more but we're not going to get 100 visibility because uh you know that's just the way the law

00:29:05.160 works we're going to learn a lot more if the fbi does his job in next next round and these first

00:29:09.960 round of documents were gathered before cash was really on the scene he's on the scene now and i i think

00:29:15.240 you're going to see a different type of release uh in the next batch uh you mentioned the first

00:29:21.400 sweetheart deal so this thing a lot of people don't realize this thing started around 2005 2006

00:29:25.880 under george w bush but more importantly john under ag pam bondi of the great state of florida

00:29:33.840 so it starts in 2005 john is a case that's brought to the palm beach police department that's right

00:29:38.620 people were very pissed off about how things transpired from 2005 to 2006 2006 the fbi gets

00:29:45.020 involved now back to what you had said what you've been trying to find out and what tony

00:29:49.280 shaffer had alluded to yeah if he is a government employee a government informant whatever you want

00:29:54.820 to call him would pam bondi know about this being she was the attorney general of florida while they're

00:30:00.000 they're looking into this guy it's probably if he was a federal informant the feds probably would

00:30:04.720 not have told the state uh they usually keep that stuff really tight like look how hard it was to

00:30:10.160 find out who the informants were in russia collusion right i mean we had to squeeze that out for months

00:30:14.700 to learn about christopher steele and his connect and then you couldn't find out he was even connected

00:30:19.100 to hillary clinton which was like the most important part of the whole story um uh the informant

00:30:24.460 informant identities are protect because the next informant might not come in if the last informant got

00:30:29.980 burned or made public and so there's a culture i think what ultimately happens in uh from my reporting

00:30:36.000 and having interviewed a lot of the people who worked that case back in 06 or 799 is that the

00:30:40.660 state looked at it it had a lot of interstate uh trafficking which means it's really got more juice

00:30:46.340 and more penalty at the federal level the feds come in and bigfoot the state right and say we're in charge 0.92

00:30:52.020 here and then that the u.s attorney there gave him a sweetheart deal and a deal that a lot of people

00:30:57.020 think could have been far more uh aggressive and i think um that is a an area that we don't know now

00:31:03.560 sometimes someone gets a sweetheart deal because they're not going to be on the payroll after the

00:31:08.340 fact right we're going to let you off light and you're going to inform for us maybe that's part of

00:31:12.340 the deal we were told it's not but we ought to look into that uh maybe it was just a bad call by

00:31:16.840 federal prosecutors that we know make a lot of bad calls we've seen them in the last 10 years with

00:31:21.600 russia collusion and other cases we there's a lot we don't know i don't think that pam bondy is in the

00:31:27.760 in the business of trying to give us a uh a lack of accountability because she might look bad 0.99

00:31:34.060 i think she's sincerely trying to get the stuff i think what happened was she didn't have what she

00:31:39.620 thought she had and rather than just come out and say it they tried to make it look like something

00:31:43.440 else and that never works in washington it never works anywhere to be honest with you right and you

00:31:48.120 got so many john we're all so invested it's the most invested i've ever seen private citizen the

00:31:53.820 average human being it's all because i think of twitter um that you know we're we're all pissed

00:31:59.400 off about this i want to turn to something that another thing i think a lot of people don't realize

00:32:03.760 is that james comey it's uh it's crazy that you constantly hear the same names john constantly

00:32:09.540 the last four years going up don't they right so true james comey and uh his offspring maureen comey

00:32:17.140 was responsible i believe the lead prosecutor for the southern district of new york in none other

00:32:22.440 than the jeffrey epstein case how does this happen do you think she's playing any role in the stonewalling

00:32:27.680 and covering up or deletion of documents we don't know and i don't want to cast aspersions on anyone

00:32:33.060 until we get to the bottom but i do think who played a role in hiding this batch of documents

00:32:38.220 forcing the director himself to get involved to find them by the way this is a bad use of the

00:32:42.740 director's time right we're facing some of the biggest terrorist threats in in our history

00:32:47.280 maybe even more severe than before 9-11 and we got to have a director because he can't trust his rank

00:32:52.540 and file in certain offices to go out and get these documents it's a bad long time use of a signal he's

00:32:58.000 going to fix this right and the way he fixes it is get the documents put them out and then any and

00:33:03.100 everyone who played a role in hiding this should be prosecuted for obstruction of justice or fired for

00:33:10.240 refusing to provide information to the american public remember these documents are also subpoenaed

00:33:17.200 by congress now why is that important it's a crime to hide something intentionally from congress so

00:33:22.680 there could be criminal prosecutions from people who it is it's too early to tell and often the early

00:33:28.900 assumptions about what we learn are not there i want to follow the trail we're digging really hard

00:33:33.400 and we're going to get more evidence and more information on this over the next few weeks

00:33:37.460 and when we know what really went on we're going to tell the american people like we did on

00:33:41.720 russia collusion with you and lou and what we learned about hunter biden we got that out the

00:33:46.700 whistleblowers there is a great big big story behind us i'm just not sure what it is yet we got to keep

00:33:51.880 digging real quick john before we go to break here do you think we ever find out who actually killed

00:33:56.760 jeffrey epstein and was it really himself i am uh it uh right now the the official conclusion is he

00:34:04.320 killed himself and then he may have killed himself with the complicity of uh of uh you know maybe some

00:34:11.240 people in the prison we're going to look the other way uh if you were used to the good life for a very

00:34:15.360 long time and now you're uh in in a cell like rikers and other places you know you're you you become

00:34:21.220 depressed pretty quickly prison is a really bad place and maybe he uh right now the preponderance

00:34:27.840 of evidence looks like it's a suicide just uh but that doesn't mean that everything should be

00:34:33.680 re-evaluated where we are there are some things that occurred that night that should never have

00:34:37.500 occurred in the prison system and you have to ask yourself why did they occur and i don't think we've

00:34:42.680 ever gotten good answers for that uh but you know official rulings there there isn't a whole lot of

00:34:47.480 evidence other than good healthy suspicion to counter it but this is the moment where we should

00:34:53.140 be able to get all that out we should listen every agency that has something on epstein which includes

00:34:58.180 the cia which gets a pass right now what does the cia got in this guy this guy traveled the globe was he

00:35:03.920 working for the cia businessmen that have far-reaching um uh contacts in the globe often get contacted by the

00:35:11.300 cia so i think the cio and the dni and the fbi and the justice department and the attorney general's

00:35:18.320 office in florida all owe us the transparency that we've been promised i think one thing we've learned

00:35:23.600 john if not many other things over the last eight years is there's there's only so many coincidences

00:35:28.260 that can happen before i was like maybe this isn't a coincidence anymore maybe uh maybe he didn't

00:35:34.280 kill himself maybe and that tendency what's that you're on to something that tendency to be suspicious

00:35:40.060 has been heightened by the fact that we were given such false stories like hunter biden's laptop is

00:35:45.460 russian disinformation baloney it never was and so i our heightened reason to be more suspicious and to

00:35:52.020 be more dubious has been earned by the bad actions of the government in the in the past 10 years and so

00:35:58.180 we're all more suspicious that said i always think that facts are a stubborn thing and that's how we've

00:36:02.740 been able to turn so many of these stories working with you and lou and i think that we should follow the

00:36:07.520 same path on this let's get the facts fight until we have every fact that then we'll make a really

00:36:11.700 good judgment yeah i think you're absolutely right john i want to take one more quick break here before

00:36:15.820 we hit our final segment on the other side of this quick break i want to take up those russiagate

00:36:19.740 documents that you fought so hard i want to take up the 2020 election the relitigation of it and what

00:36:25.200 can possibly happen a lot of people lost their jobs over it john a lot of people lost their lives

00:36:29.860 over talking about a stolen election uh you know i want to get your take on that and i also want to get

00:36:34.900 your take on what else president trump and pam bondage should be declassifying we're talking with

00:36:39.620 john solomon of justthenews.com he's also the host of just the news no noise on real america's voice

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00:37:53.520 john on president trump's last day in office you were instrumental in the declassification of

00:38:00.000 documents that never wound up getting declassified even though president trump declassified them

00:38:04.380 well they got declassified they just didn't get released that's the sad part yeah right so

00:38:08.700 and those are the russiagate documents the premise of the of donald trump's demise in his

00:38:14.740 administration and what made his life total hell can you tell us what happened on that day john the

00:38:21.100 process that played out and where we are right now in it yeah i have sworn this out under penalty of

00:38:26.600 in a case where i'm fighting to get those documents uh the president contacted me and i had a brief

00:38:32.160 meeting with him at the white house and he i told him and i'd written in public what i believe should

00:38:37.460 be released for history and for the american when was this john this would have been a couple days

00:38:41.240 before the president left i can't remember i'd probably be the 19th 18th 19th whenever it was

00:38:45.340 yeah and the president had been saying for weeks i'm going to do it he he brought me over and said

00:38:50.280 i've done it and you're going to get to see them in a few days and i thought that was really

00:38:53.360 exciting and then the night of the 19th uh mark meadows the then white house chief of staff

00:38:59.700 called me and said the president has executed the um the uh declassification order because the

00:39:09.160 documents had been classified i actually asked to see the declassification i wanted to make sure i

00:39:13.260 wasn't being given something that i'd get arrested for by the biden administration the next day

00:39:16.720 it was shown the actual order which then showed up the next day in the federal register and then mark

00:39:22.440 meadows said in a little while we'll send the documents over to and he sent a batch over with

00:39:26.320 an embargo on them meaning that these can't be used until noon on tuesday and so i didn't look

00:39:33.060 at those documents because they were embargoed i had a team of reporters that was instructed to begin

00:39:37.980 looking at them and scan them and and put them out for the american public but under the terms of an

00:39:42.640 embargo embargo is a very specific thing that journalists use um in retrospect i probably shouldn't have

00:39:47.660 agreed to the embargo but that's the way it was been done by the president's his documents

00:39:51.280 i agreed to within an hour or so of that process beginning i got a second set of documents it was

00:39:57.560 a small set from the larger set i i looked at them they were pretty good pretty important stuff

00:40:03.460 things uh on the informants and things that actually have had profound affecting civil cases

00:40:08.040 because people have used them in real court cases and i went out and wrote those and and while i was

00:40:13.240 riding those mark meadows called my team and said hey the fbi uh uh made a mistake on some

00:40:19.420 documents i need to take them back make some corrections we'll bring them back the next morning

00:40:23.120 because they were still under embargo journalists agree to that sort of thing we sent them back with

00:40:27.860 the pure hope that they would be back in a few hours and they just never came back and then the national

00:40:32.760 archives knows now the set i did get proved to be some of the most important documents that we learned

00:40:38.320 because we learned significant things about how much the fbi knew that um george papadopoulos

00:40:44.840 and uh carter page were not biting on all these efforts to make them look like russia they were

00:40:49.620 doing the opposite george papadopoulos like i wouldn't do that that's un-american and and and

00:40:53.840 uh carter page would say i'm not i'm not in bed with russia you know i'm not going to do that we're

00:40:59.120 we're loyalists we're patriots in the trump campaign so the fbi knew as they were bringing

00:41:03.520 this investigation along the very targets that they had opened up on were not doing anything

00:41:08.100 improper illegal inappropriate and yet they managed to continue that investigation

00:41:12.200 that stuff that wasn't even in the congressional report or in the ig report so those documents

00:41:16.960 were really valuable uh and they show you know some of these informants coming back saying it's

00:41:21.560 just not there it's not true and so uh there was also some evidence that one of the informants did

00:41:26.680 not tell the fbi the truth about mike flynn and they found out that that informant uh had not given

00:41:32.420 him an accurate story did they get rid of the informant no so the fbi didn't seem to care about bad

00:41:37.920 information they just wanted information that made donald trump look bad and they weren't getting it

00:41:42.060 those documents are very important i've written about them every one of them are in the public

00:41:45.760 domain but the rest of the documents which may not even be as interesting as the ones i got i think i

00:41:50.620 might have got the best hits um the national archives kept and then in defiance of the president's order

00:41:55.840 they did not release them they sent them to the national archives and they kept them away from me and

00:41:59.560 for the last four years i've been sewing to try to get them and a judge leon in washington dc wouldn't

00:42:05.080 give them to me and so we're appealing that and maybe donald trump could and cash patel could short

00:42:10.500 circle that and just send me the documents one more time this time i won't take them on embargo

00:42:15.040 i would go ride them and get them out that's so insane john you've been doing this for a very very

00:42:20.620 long time have you ever heard witnessed or seen exactly what had happened to you i've never oh many

00:42:26.020 times embargo things get pulled back no no no not the embargoed but then take them and never give them

00:42:30.180 back yeah no no it was a you know and i know mark meadows feels bad about it i think in his belief the

00:42:36.420 fbi really was just going to fix something specific the privacy act the thing we're talking

00:42:40.960 about that is a real thing and i don't want to violate the privacy act so i mean everyone acted

00:42:45.580 in good attention except the fbi and the national archives which played keep away for the last few

00:42:49.200 years and uh and you know at the end of the day the president of the united states lawfully elected

00:42:54.540 with the power he was given declassified and ordered them released and the deep state chose not to

00:43:00.500 release them i think that is an extraordinary thing and by the way the government does not say that

00:43:04.520 joe biden reclassified him isn't like a president came in a reclassive item that bureaucrats chose to

00:43:10.200 ignore a lawful order from a lawfully elected president and that's why when you say is there

00:43:14.780 a deep state well this is a pretty good example of what a deep state might look like that is that's

00:43:19.700 mind-blowing crazy that's what happened i that's crazy i've sworn it out and i provided all the evidence

00:43:24.980 in accord it's uh it's a well-documented what happened the problem is john you're probably one of the few

00:43:30.000 very few honest people in this in this industry there were probably people who would have taken

00:43:34.380 those documents and say go to hell they were declassified they were given to me see you later 0.90

00:43:38.700 um and i followed the rules because those are the rules and when you give someone your word your word

00:43:44.160 is your bond and so we follow that now i was lucky that night to get two subsets of documents and i'm

00:43:49.760 pretty certain from what i've known and from the reporting i'm doing that the subset i did get are

00:43:54.280 probably the most important documents uh i did get a copy of the fourth visa warrant but it still had

00:43:59.620 heavy redactions and i still think there is a single paragraph in the fourth visa that's public

00:44:05.240 now that could be potentially explosive it seems to appear to address a tactic and how they spied on

00:44:12.260 the president that doesn't look like anything that we've known about but it's all redacted but

00:44:16.340 my belief is that this president president 47 trump and his this fbi director cash patel could

00:44:24.440 declassify that one paragraph and i think people might be surprised there might have still been one

00:44:29.420 other spy tactic deployed against donald trump that we don't know about yet not talking about a honey

00:44:33.520 pot but maybe some other possible possible thing and i hope this president and uh this fbi director

00:44:39.560 fulfill the promise of the last president uh trump and get these out to the american public we

00:44:44.600 deserve it for history you mentioned honey pot so i've got to ask you what tony schaefer asked me the

00:44:48.940 other day have you ever heard of brownstoning no i haven't until well i mean i've heard of it

00:44:54.380 recently but no it isn't a term now there is as you know particularly during the cold war this

00:45:01.120 was not an uncommon tactic used particularly during the cold war and certainly the soviets

00:45:06.900 and russians used it that's how they compromised an fbi agent and we had one of the greatest spy

00:45:11.480 scandals in history um but um i'm not been able to get the level of detail that some other people

00:45:18.600 have on this and so i'm a little cautious on seeing whether this actually happened there could

00:45:23.600 have been an earlier operation to test the loyalties of donald trump and some of his aides i've always

00:45:29.600 suspected that because we see activity in march april in may that precede uh in 2016 the official start

00:45:37.220 uh and i do think there was an earlier operation that would be what we call loyalty testing by the

00:45:42.600 way that's a common tactic that the fbi sometimes uses um uh whether there's a honey pot element to that

00:45:49.640 i have not been able to get confirmation and i pretty good sources uh but we're keeping to work

00:45:54.260 on i know there's one whistleblower claiming it there are others who seem to have some access to

00:45:58.440 it that say i don't think that's what went on but there was you know there probably was some loyalty

00:46:02.360 testing going on that's not surprising um the fbi sometimes to root out counterintelligence threats

00:46:09.400 in america will run someone up to make sure that someone hasn't been compromised and they come back and

00:46:13.860 find out no that person's fine and then they they do the right thing they they drop off and they don't do it

00:46:18.580 again that could very well have happened because in 15 and 16 after the obama administration flipped

00:46:24.280 on russia they got all the riches from russia then they turned around and flipped on russia

00:46:28.360 russia would naturally be looking at the other party now the dem or the republicans to see if maybe

00:46:33.140 could we find some friends there because we were treated so badly so the fbi doing loyalty testing or

00:46:38.620 false flagging just to make sure that there weren't spies in the u.s government that's probably a

00:46:42.420 legitimate thing we shouldn't be concerned about opening up a fake criminal investigation on

00:46:46.480 president trump in his age well you know that's a line that's way too far over john another issue

00:46:51.200 before we wrap up here that you know a lot about is the 2020 election re-litigation of it lou dobbs

00:46:56.700 was canceled from fox news now we don't know if that was the exact reason but the timing as i said

00:47:01.100 coincidences john just seem to not be coincidences anymore tucker carlson was eventually canceled a lot

00:47:06.960 of people's lives ruined on january 6th uh all because the american people believed the election was

00:47:12.640 stolen and it seems even more likely now as we look at this last election 2024 just on the simple

00:47:18.520 spike john in 2020 and you know i had called you uh after 2020 after the 2020 election and i said john

00:47:25.260 what happened and you had intimated to me john you'd said i'm not entirely sure about the electric thing

00:47:31.180 the electric voting machine i don't know anything about that except but what am i at what i'm gonna tell

00:47:35.240 you is that this seems like a good old-fashioned ballot stuffing operation that's right turns out

00:47:40.320 you know you're very true but we also don't know the other aspect which is the electric voting

00:47:44.440 machines whatever um do you think donald trump we haven't heard anything about it yet and over the

00:47:49.900 last month and a week about relitigating the 2020 election do you think we ever find out no you think

00:47:55.980 that's i don't think so no i don't think so i think we're done with that uh i think the president has

00:48:00.220 four years to solve some of the largest crises americans have ever faced this inflation crisis is far from

00:48:07.120 over the debt crisis is a millstone around our neck we've got two wars that need to be resolved

00:48:11.740 a government that needs to be broken down and i think at the end of the day donald trump's big

00:48:17.780 change on elections occurred in december of 2022 when the republicans underperformed for a second

00:48:23.800 election they didn't win as many seats as they thought they didn't capture the senate and i think at

00:48:28.400 that point the president finally decided to get into the early voting game that democrats had

00:48:32.700 mastered and i think you saw what happened this time around donald trump got five six seven million

00:48:38.440 americans to vote early for the first time ever in who hadn't voted in many cases like in the lee

00:48:43.280 zelden operation like four million people who hadn't voted since 2016 voted early and that's how you see

00:48:49.500 the margins change and you see the opposite thing happen with democrats uh if you're enthusiastic

00:48:54.860 about your candidate or you hate the other candidate a lot it's easy to get low propensity voters to vote

00:49:00.540 early but if you think your candidate is brain dead i.e joe biden or uh just not presidential material

00:49:07.840 i.e kamala harris you can't get those people to vote early and so the democrat numbers dropped

00:49:13.220 and donald trump had everybody electrified then after the the two assassination attempts he reaches

00:49:18.520 sort of home with mythical standards and the republicans voted in uh in numbers unseen

00:49:24.560 in early voting in republican party history i think that the president now i don't speak for him but i

00:49:31.240 think the president's team is convinced that early voting was a difference now there's a lot of things

00:49:35.660 that happened in 2020 that the republicans should be ashamed of they didn't contest things that they

00:49:40.240 should have they didn't look at things now i went to two uh major uh brown zeros of the 2020 election

00:49:48.240 wisconsin and georgia and i spent weeks and months and i mean in the data like nobody uh in some cases

00:49:56.220 i had entire every ballot of every voter in an entire city like milwaukee every single absentee ballot

00:50:03.700 and i called those people one by one by one and i could not find and i had old team doing this

00:50:09.420 uh the people who said they voted actually did vote um and the the paper ballots match up pretty closely

00:50:16.920 to you know within a few couple here and there uh to the actual numbers that the machine spit out

00:50:23.960 so at least in the city of milwaukee and in parts of wisconsin where i delve in and as you know i did

00:50:28.920 historic work on what happened in atlanta i found things that brad rassenberger had to go back and fix

00:50:34.160 um but in both of those places the paper ballots predominantly matched the final totals now there was an error

00:50:41.040 in the recount and brian kemp ultimately who didn't buy any of this stuff ultimately admitted there was

00:50:47.220 an error in the recount and it was a large error in the recount several hundred votes but it wasn't

00:50:52.700 seven or eight or ten thousand to switch the the election results but it's a reminder that in these

00:50:57.800 big blue area areas there is not only potential fraud there is just really bad uh machinery meaning

00:51:05.420 not the machines but the people it's just they don't hire quality people or they don't have

00:51:09.880 quality practices and bad things happen at the end of the day i'm not sure we're going to learn

00:51:14.840 something now there's a really legitimate question that i think people can ask themselves which is the

00:51:19.840 election um assistance agency eia i think it's called they keep certifying these machines and then

00:51:26.740 after the election it's like oh some of the things we said about the last machines aren't quite right

00:51:30.320 and they keep making changes to the machinery and i think i could imagine someone in the next year say

00:51:38.520 the assurances we've been given about how locked down the machines are don't meet the test of

00:51:43.480 assurity that we're given so we vote then we find it after they weren't quite as secure as we thought

00:51:47.340 that doesn't mean that the machines were hijacked but maybe they're not as perfect as they're made to

00:51:53.100 me before the election i could imagine someone filing a lawsuit the next year saying

00:51:57.740 you know if the government keeps certifying machines and they don't live up to what the

00:52:02.700 standards are even if there's not cheating is that good enough for america and maybe challenging

00:52:06.620 machine counting based on the lack of assurances that some of these post reviews have occurred

00:52:12.620 uh and shown you know there's been changes of things people saying oh wait that we did find this

00:52:16.880 full after the election um that is a lawsuit someone might want to do under the equal protection

00:52:22.020 clause of the constitution i could imagine that that's not a detriment to the uh machine companies

00:52:27.580 it's not an allegation that the machines were hijacked or did things but it is is the standard

00:52:32.780 of these are really awesome machines uh uh is it really the right standard to apply to them and if

00:52:38.360 it's not have we misled americans when they vote i could imagine someone going down that path i don't

00:52:42.880 know how the courts will rule and i don't know how good the evidence is i could imagine something like

00:52:46.840 that but i can't imagine someone going back and saying i'm going to recount every ballot in atlanta and

00:52:51.600 find the missing votes i just i did a lot of that myself the old-fashioned way and and the tallies are

00:52:56.740 pretty close minus the changes i did find i mean the governor of georgia who claimed there was

00:53:00.920 nothing wrong with georgia he admitted there was some miscounting based on my reporting and some

00:53:05.340 work by other people uh so there were problems the elections are not perfect but i do think the

00:53:10.640 largest thing that republicans had to realize is they got beat on an early voting machine and as soon

00:53:15.340 as they started doing it the democrats can't keep up with republicans i think republicans are in very

00:53:19.960 good shape long term to win future elections no matter what the election system is whether it's machines

00:53:25.640 early voting absentee voting they got in the game and the way i described 2020 is if you were the um

00:53:33.660 the uh kansas city chiefs and you went into super bowl and he said you know i'm not gonna use my wide

00:53:38.700 receivers and running backs i'm gonna try to win without them you're like why are you doing that

00:53:42.520 that's kind of what republicans did they said well we allowed absentee voting in really loose

00:53:48.540 absentee voting really loose rules to occur and we didn't participate in well what do you think's

00:53:53.080 going to happen you know you pied a hand behind your back they've changed that and i think that

00:53:58.720 the republican party is in extraordinary shape to win elections going forward and whatever terms

00:54:04.440 the election rules are on just to wrap up on that there's an interesting case which i'm sure you're

00:54:09.660 familiar with down in georgia in front of judge amy totenberg in which they are challenging uh the

00:54:15.840 plaintiffs to get rid of uh the voting systems that they use down there yep and they brought in j alex

00:54:21.180 alderman to hack the machine the guy did it with the ballpoint pen in a matter of seconds

00:54:24.780 and the interesting part about it that's the argument that i think that people are looking at

00:54:29.160 i think that's that's the argument people are looking at right but we still don't have a ruling

00:54:32.620 john this case has been going on for years well that that let's see if they let's see if they move

00:54:36.980 this into a different venue soon i think you could imagine a state like texas or a state like

00:54:42.340 montana maybe saying you know i've been through enough here i want to look at this and maybe you get a

00:54:47.660 faster docket uh but i could imagine that type of argument proceeding and i don't know where the

00:54:54.220 evidence would go i'm going to be honest i don't know where the evidence would go but i think that

00:54:57.640 could be a legitimate debate that could play out in america and we wouldn't be ashamed by it but i do

00:55:02.140 think the the the idea that you know we're going to go back and try to find the missing ballots in

00:55:06.200 2020 i think i think we move past that we're the greatest country in the world john it we are i think

00:55:11.120 it's too much to ask for just honesty you know yeah yeah we're going to get a lot more of it listen

00:55:16.440 all the truths we were denying we're getting a lot more truths for the first time and i think

00:55:19.900 we're starting to feel like the america of old for the first time i think that's a good thing for all

00:55:23.060 of us yeah john solomon just the news you can catch him each and every night just the news no noise

00:55:28.100 on real america's voice thanks so much for taking the time great to be with you today thanks to john

00:55:32.980 solomon for taking the time to join us today folks uh great american uh really knows uh the stuff

00:55:38.560 really knows the documents as he's been working on this for a very very very long time alongside the

00:55:43.160 great lou dobbs uh so we can't wait to speak with john again uh very very soon folks thank you all

00:55:48.900 for joining us today as well we hope to see you back here tomorrow for the great america show as

00:55:52.380 our quest for truth justice and the american way continues see you back here tomorrow same time same

00:55:57.180 place until then may god bless you may god bless america and may god bless the great lou dobbs we'll see

00:56:03.060 you tomorrow folks

The Great America Show - February 28, 2025

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