ZELENSKY KICKED OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE. WHO TAKES THE BLAME FOR NO EPSTEIN FILES？
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Vladimir Zelinskii was at the White House today to make a mineral deal with the United States, but it didn t go according to plan. President Donald Trump told him to come back when he was ready to negotiate and sign over some mineral rights that Ukraine has in the mineral rights deal, and then the deal was canceled, and the press conference that was supposed to take place was canceled as a result.
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hello everybody and welcome to the great america show it's great to have you with us today thank
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you so much for joining us on this friday night in america beautiful day not a beautiful day for
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ukraine's president vladimir zelinski zelinski was at the white house today before uh after
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meeting with some members of congress and senators on capitol hill where he's here
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to make a mineral deal where he's going to sign over some of the mineral rights that ukraine has
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although it didn't turn out according to plan take a listen to just a short clip of the meeting
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uh the 10 plus long meeting that was uh aired out for the media to listen between jd vance
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donald trump and zelinski your country is in big trouble can i no no you've done a lot of talking
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your country is in big trouble i know you're not winning you're not winning this i you have a damn
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good chance of coming out okay because of us mr president we are staying in our country staying
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strong from the very beginning of the war we've been alone and we are thankful i said thanks you
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haven't been in this cabinet you haven't been in this cabinet we gave you through the stupid
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president 350 billion dollars you we gave you military equipment you and you men are brave but
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they had to use our military if you didn't have our military equipment you invited me you didn't have
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our military equipment this war would have been over in two weeks it's sad that the people of
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ukraine have to deal with that imbecile that idiot who's getting the country further into a war that
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vladimir putin frankly is ready to end so now it sits on zelinski he has the chance for a ceasefire he
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has a chance for this thing to be completely over for his people to not have another person another
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live lost and not another child another uh military member and not another wife no more deaths
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and zelinski comes to washington dc and puts on that act what a shame uh needless to say the press
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conference that was supposed to take uh uh take aim after following that uh oval office visit was
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canceled as president trump asked zelinski to leave the white house and told him to come back
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when he's ready to negotiate and end this war um zelinski leaving the white house doing a little
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grandstanding on twitter uh tweeting out the following thank you america thank you for your support
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thank you for this visit thank you at potus congress and the american people ukraine needs
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just a lasting peace and we are ready uh working exactly for that but that's not true zelinski doesn't
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want peace if zelinski wanted peace he would have came to the white house today signed the mineral
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rights deal and we would have ended this thing the thing could have probably been ended by the end of
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uh or the beginning of next week yet zelinski leaves the white house on very very bad terms and the
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truth of the matter is uh is there is no ukraine without america there's no deal without america
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president trump has been very outspoken on what he wants he wants peace he wants this thing ended he
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wants the fighting stopped he wants the lives lost to stop that's not too much to ask for but zelinski's
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hesitancy to to stop the war i think it tells you everything you need to know about where zelinski's
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mind is right now uh and how he wants this thing to keep going so he can continue to bring in
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billions and billions of dollars uh risking more lives than it's even worth absolutely disgusting
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folks our guest today one you know very very well from this show john solomon he's editor-in-chief of
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just the news he's also the host of just the news no noise on real america's voice he joins us today
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john it's great to have you here on the great america show i appreciate you joining us you were
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one of lou dobbs's favorite guests and you were instrumental john in getting us started in this
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whole podcasting world so hats off to you and we appreciate everything you've done i appreciate
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personally everything you've done i miss the big guy an awful lot but i know his show is in really
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really good hands and uh it's uh it's an honor to be back on and it's great to be talking to you john
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i appreciate that john the kind words let's get started i mean there's so much to talk about today
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but obviously the news of the day so once he leaves the white house after apparently being thrown out by
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donald trump no press conference happening tonight um what the hell's going on well i think we saw it
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in full uh full stream which is that uh zelensky wanted to come here and and show the world that he
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would stand up to president trump but the problem is there's no one else that has invested more than
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200 billion dollars in the ukraine war except the united states of america uh there's nobody that has
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the military might to uh take on uh russia should ukraine need it uh we saw that yesterday great britain
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couldn't answer the question could they take on russia by themselves we know the answer the answer is
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no um and uh there's nobody that brought vladimir putin to the point of potentially making a deal
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deal where he's willing to give land back maybe put some money into reconstruction allow for a
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demilitarized zone with peacekeepers than donald trump and why uh president zelensky would come here
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and bite the hand that had those three cards in it uh is a little odd my guess is it's a breakup before
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a makeup and that zelensky eventually come back but i think we have to look at what happened
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in the lead up to this event donald trump had an unbelievably warm meeting with uh the most liberal
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prime minister great britain sat in a long time prime minister starmer and starmer sounded like he
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was on board with donald trump's plan and he said listen we got to put more european money in security
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that happened beforehand president was with uh president trump was with uh the french uh president
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macron macron could not be more on board in talking about the historic opportunity that
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donald trump opened the people that zelensky would normally turn to if he was going to uh get into a
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tiff with president trump france and um england and germany appear to be more on donald trump's side
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than zelensky's romantic vision of hey let's keep this war going and see how many more people can die
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i think zelensky has no dealing hand and he was testing the limits of the president
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and he hit them pretty quickly and he got kicked out um uh you know i think zelensky felt wow he
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wants this mineral deal so bad he'll do anything for me the answer is no he's not that sort of guy
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that's not the art of the deal for donald trump 350 billion dollars is a lot of money to send to
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another country but i think in the grand scheme of things john with how much money we've spent
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on way dumb things in this country donald trump is willing to write it off as a loss if he's not
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going to spend another dollar in this country and i don't think zelensky sees that the way it was and
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i mean you see zelensky pull up there john not in a suit and tie in his stupid outfit donald trump
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even commenting on it when he gets out the car and uh you know donald trump is sitting there using
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an analogy saying the cards are not in your hand and zelensky in his in his sarcastic way says i'm
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not playing cards i he came here it seems like you've said to see where trump is but also to to make it
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like i'm the boss um in no situation john does he win this war that's the bottom line i think and i
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think we've all right sure what he's getting right now is a concession it's in not in vladimir putin's
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best interest to stop this thing because if he wanted to john the truth of the matter is he could
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take all of ukraine he doesn't want all of ukraine he would have taken it already right uh he would
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have moved into kiev and and put further further to the west he doesn't want it he wanted what he
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originally wanted and uh and i think he's at the point now where he says okay enough is enough
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but now you've got this man john who's gotten 350 billion dollars allegedly that's the number
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um and he's got a ceasefire which he's been calling for and donald trump calls his bluff i mean how does
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the rest of the world perceive this now as a man that they said was modern day churchill we're we're
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gonna we're gonna find out quickly but rest of the the key people who matter the england and francis
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and germans of the world the president already has briefed them on what the deal is and when
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germany hears that russia is willing to give some of the land back that they're willing to put some
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money towards reconstruction that they're willing to accept the european peacekeeping uh uh peacekeepers
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in a demilitarized zone like hey that's that's better than we thought uh putin would give right
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and so i think they're looking at like well what is zelinski holding out for and i think
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how france and great britain acts reacts to this in the next 24 hours will tell us a lot about where this
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goes but uh i think the president said something profound this is the most important quote that came out
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during the middle of the shouting match you either make a deal or we are out the united states not
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going to support you without our weaponry uh ukraine couldn't fight uh a much smaller country and i think
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at this point they're also out of men they're running out of men quickly and i think that donald trump
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just laid down a red line and zelinski's got to go back and think wait a second he just said if i don't
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make a deal they're out where am i going to turn to where's the weaponry and the answer is that there is
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no one going to give the weaponry the other thing too john is the whole nato proposition which is
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probably why britain's on board and france is on board because there really is no nato without
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america and i've been saying this uh we may be out of nato john before this war is even finished
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between ukraine and russia which was uh which is what the media's premise of of what this war started
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do you have any sort of different inclination on why this thing started dating back to
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maybe 2014 some timeline around then when it originated i think it's um listen i think this
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all begins when i cover some of this in my book from 2020 fallout um the obama administration thought
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they were going to appease russia and so they did this reboot with russia hillary clinton brock obama
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joe biden they ingratiated themselves and gave russia lots of things nuclear uh energy contracts in
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america and in return the democrats got rich themselves uh bill clinton gets that 500 000
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speech fee and lots of democrats are making business with russia and then uh the united states
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thought well we're so nice now with russia i think we should push out their guy in ukraine because our
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democratic donors don't like um president um the president at the time uh because he was too aligned
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with russia and they tried to play that hand and the united states probably played a role
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in uh throwing out victor yanukovych the president at the time who was the democratically elected
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legitimately elected leader of ukraine and russia like wait a second that's not the america we were
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just dealing with and that triggers a war and i think the most important thing donald trump could
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do over the next several weeks as americans absorb what happened today and it's absorbed the next steps in
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this um uh fight with ukraine is to reveal whether the united states played a role whether the cia or the
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state department or other intelligence agencies played a role in throwing out one of our allies
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own elected leaders we don't throw out people in in democrat countries just because we don't like
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where they are if we did and i don't know if we did there's certainly some strong inclinations that
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we did bob woodward's book talks about some interesting things that the hint at it there was
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an intercept of a conversation between victoria newland and jeffrey pyatt jeffrey pyatt they would
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kiev u.s ambassador at the time newland the architect of this failed ukraine policy if we
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played a role in that that probably is the trigger for what then happened so the maiden revolution was
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not really of the ukrainian people if it was u.s inspired or u.s funded then the last 10 years have
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been an unnecessary for disaster because the united states made a bad diplomatic move now i'm not saying
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that's what happened yet because we don't know but i think the president could answer that question
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and if he did we would know it's either russian propaganda or it's true and whichever is true
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it can help us understand how to navigate the next 10 years and i think it's important for our allies
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to know what role we played but whatever that history is now the moment is here and you know it's
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interesting to watch how the media has looked at this but um politico had a headline out right away
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and i think it's the right way to look at what happened disaster for ukraine in the over office i think
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zelensky overplayed his hand and it's a disaster for ukraine because there's nowhere to go they they
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need the united states and there's not this deal looks like it could be something that ukraine could
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get far better than where it stands now with uh it's a head scratcher why zelensky would do it either
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it's ego or uh he misread the room but whatever the case is i suspect that zelensky will calm down and
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come back and make the right deal because the alternative is uh no u.s and a lot more death in ukraine
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yeah he's got no other plans i i think it was probably a big ego thing you know the other
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thing john and you perhaps know about this just as much as the great lou dobbs did because you guys
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covered this forever and it was and you know it didn't really dawn on me until last night i was
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watching cnn caitlin collins had on gordon sunlin the other famous figure in this whole situation and
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think back about the connection that donald trump was impeached and it dawned on me a little bit further
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today when donald trump sat in the oval office and said all we want is a thank you and i'm sitting
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there waiting for the democrats to come out and say it's a quid pro quo yeah you want to thank you
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i don't think they can play that card a second time i might be wrong but they might try it because
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they got no but yeah nobody is is talking about what donald trump's whole problem was with ukraine
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the first time it's the corruption the corruption didn't go away and it was democrat corruption
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listen the democrats have used uh ukraine as a piggy bank for their american politics you know
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uh victor pinchuk one of the largest uh donors to the clinton foundation and the clinton machinery
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this has been a piggy bank george shore is long interested in ukraine though he's not a ukrainian
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he's hungarian but he's had long vast interest in in ukraine and uh right after the made on revolution
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of 90 uh of 2014 he announced he was going to go in and make a big investment in ukraine so
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he was leveraged business there uh the democrats have a uh an allegiance to ukraine that has more
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to do with their political alliances than the good of the country just think about what the democratic
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party did for ukraine over the last 30 years it made it give up its nuclear weapons which would
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have been a heck of a deterrent for russia uh it then um uh destabilized the country in 2014
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didn't didn't provide any military support and then it sold the false hope
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that ukraine would be a nato member the nato charter definition of what a nato country should
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be doesn't apply to ukraine ukraine touches russia nato was never designed to uh be a an entry point
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for those that actually are on the border with russia so um they've sold these false things because
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that's what their funders wanted uh but not it's not been what's been good for the ukrainian people
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yeah but john if you speak like the way you're speaking and i'm speaking right now
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we're accused of being russian agents if people just went back and look at the history of things
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um donald trump should have never been impeached the over the ukrainian phone call uh and i think
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things would have been a lot different than they they're panning out to be right now uh before we
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move on before we head to break uh wendy what do you think the time on is on this unless he goes back
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to ukraine today when can we expect to hear from the fella again about what he wants to do
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um it's hard to say i think if if zelensky leaves the united states uh his ability to get back in
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the negotiating table may be um harder and more difficult i think donald trump will let let a
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little bit more time pass and not just suddenly engage and ukraine without u.s resources will be
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far more weakened quicker and then maybe putin doesn't want to give up as much as he's willing
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to give up now uh i think zelensky might want to stay in town take a quick poll of his european
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allies and maybe re-gauge and reassess and uh you know he could look like the hero by coming back and
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saying i i calm down and i'm sorry mr president let's work on something that's probably a bigger
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win for him uh but there's probably some people in his ear there are some european union diplomats that
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think that putin doesn't really want a peace deal i think he does i think i had my my my gut tells me
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from what he's offering that it's a real legitimate deal i'm not a fan of putin putin was the aggressor
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here he violated international law putin wanted one time to give me an interview i said no i didn't
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want it uh the there is uh because you know it was a propaganda interview at the time and it came
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with strictures that i wouldn't accept i'm not a fan of latimer putin's uh i i recognize he's the
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aggressor here but in in war the person who's winning ends up in a stronger position than the person
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that's losing and donald trump was trying to rebalance that and give ukraine a fighting chance
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yeah and i don't think zolensky can afford to leave the united states or it'll be a longer delay towards
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peace well so you're saying the matter of days you know the crazy thing john before we're gonna break
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here donald trump's been in politics for a really long time but really the last 10 years you know in
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the power of of the president and running for president and i've never heard him get that heated in a
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meeting before with any world leader i mean what does that tell you about how fed up with this guy
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he is yeah yeah listen you know it's interesting i think what drives president trump on this is not
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even the personality conflict with the comedian turned president it's he can't stand to see men
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and women in ukrainian uniform run into a battlefield every day and just get blown up because they don't
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have the capability of winning i just he said it many times he said it to me personally he hates to see
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unnecessary waste of life in war if you know there's a meaning or there's a purpose or there's
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an end game to it okay let's do it but he doesn't see it and he's you know he he has said i've looked
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at some of these these reconnaissance satellite photos and it makes me sick to see how many people
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are dying in a battle where the battle lines move a mile and each they're not moving anywhere i think
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he just wants to end the carnage and i think that um zolensky has to maybe mis recalculate where
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donald trump stands from yeah completely unnecessary folks we're talking with you guys
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take on what's going on in the fbi and what's going on the doj and where are these epstein files
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folks we're back with john solomon of justthenews.com our number one source of news you can catch him
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each and every night just the news no noise on real america's voice john uh you know this as i say
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this about many things because you're very in the loop on everything um the fbi and the doj so pam
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bondi comes out two nights ago and says she's releasing these documents knowing damn well that
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it wasn't all the documents there was about 200 pages john it was a nothing burger they knew it
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was a burger so why let me ask you this question why does pam bondi come out as her first big test
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as as attorney general and do this and this big dump with these influencers instead of just taking
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a step back john and saying you know what we're gonna have to delay people would have been pissed
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about the delay but they would have said okay it might be worth it in the end whose calculation is
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this that completely missed yeah i um i think this is on pam bondi's team i think the white house was
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caught off guard my intel is that the white house had no idea she was going to do what she did yesterday
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these influencers were there for some other reasons and she hijacked it is what i'm told or her team
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hijacked it i should say and you know these influencers went in with the belief they were getting
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something meaningful they went out and said positive things and then they realized oh my gosh
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there's nothing in this these are all old documents which by the way i'm certain i've confirmed the
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justice department and fbi knew these were uh uh basically documents previously released with the
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exception there's one document that's new there is a evidence list of things that the fbi hasn't
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turned over that that's important it gives us some sense of what we might be able to get in the future
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but the whole optics was strange they miss they took friends of the white house and and had them
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go out and be shills for something that they then get savage take a look at jack posobics and and um dc
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drano's uh twitter things they they're getting savage for having fallen for this uh this ruse uh it was
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an amateurish thing and an otherwise pretty successful start to the trump presidency um what they could have
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done is hey this is what the fbi claimed they found this is a joke we we looked at it it's all old stuff
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except for this one document and we're so determined now that they this is what they claim
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we're going back and we're going to go get the american people what it is and watch how we do it
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that would have been a winning moment but they tried to fake it for something it wasn't and it
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immediately boomeranged on them and i think they wasted some credibility on their own home turf
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and they you know made a mockery of of the other side you get this gave free shots at it
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the fbi really was dragged along for that i think cash patel is the person who was digging and looking
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for those missing documents helped uncover them recently and that's missing you don't get that
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sense from the letter but cash patel and his team were the people that found the documents that had
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not been responsive previously and they were working to get those there are so many different
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ways they could have played this that would have been credibility um building but i think at the end of
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the day they chose a credibility eroding now it's is it a big deal will people remember
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seven days or no probably not maybe some of the influencers well because they're getting
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savage they'll be a little more careful next time but i think at the end of the day they'll get these
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documents and when there is one very important document in here there's a three-page list of
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documents and evidence that was gathered at um at epstein's home and there's even talking about
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a money with that uh an envelope with money in it is that money because for sex for women or was it
00:22:29.440
money for um a black male because he owns stuff those are important questions we could get answered
00:22:34.960
in the next round and i suspect the next round of releases of documents whether it's jfk rfk mlk or
00:22:42.600
epstein 2 uh they'll be done in a little different manner uh and i think at the end of the day this was
00:22:48.540
just stage managed by some people may not have even been pan body right it might have been people
00:22:52.020
below are feeding the ag ag is very busy so the ag could just got a fed a line of baloney but they
00:22:57.940
played a bad they made a bad sandwich of it and and i think uh they they hurt the credibility
00:23:02.940
yesterday they made a mockery of what's generally a real commitment to transparency in this presidency
00:23:07.640
the thing that's mind-blowing to me john is 200 documents spam bonnie was the attorney general
00:23:12.300
of florida you know damn well john there's no chance that's the last of the documents right yeah
00:23:17.140
you and i would know that like in two seconds john you don't get you get more than 200 documents on
00:23:21.980
like a petty larceny crime file i mean yeah that's the thing that's so mind-blowing how many in your
00:23:27.540
opinion how many documents do you think there are i will guess that there are about 25 to 35 000
00:23:34.020
pieces of evidence that includes documents envelopes pictures photos uh books uh and uh there's another
00:23:42.740
thing when you listen uh to pam bonnie that's important to see and also when you look at this
00:23:47.260
original set of documents they're redacting anything that went before the grand jury or involves the
00:23:52.400
privacy act which means most of the good stuff is going to be behind those little black lines that
00:23:57.140
drive us nuts and uh even in these first documents that were released they were heavily redacted
00:24:02.540
some of the documents are meaningless they're probably meaningful documents but they're meaningless
00:24:06.460
to the american people right because everything's redacted so this is not going to be a full act of
00:24:11.640
transparency even when we get all the documents but there are laws about grand jury material being
00:24:16.500
released there are laws about uh privacy act information there still can be a significant
00:24:22.000
amount of information we can learn and i think you know increasingly lawmakers i've talked to in
00:24:29.120
congress who've never been willing to say this before though they've thought it but have said it
00:24:33.040
on my show in the last few weeks one of the questions we need to examine doesn't mean it happened but we need
00:24:37.880
to know the answer is when the government came in possession of this incriminating evidence or while
00:24:44.360
uh epstein had it before he was in the confines of the u.s government's custody was it used to leverage
00:24:51.320
businessmen or politicians because it's embarrassing stuff that's a really important national security
00:24:56.820
question and i think that's a journey we can all go on together and get answers to uh but the fbi has
00:25:02.580
to start cooperating better and uh cash patel personally intervened to find these documents they're on his
00:25:07.820
desk now it'll take a week or two to go through them make sure that what's appropriate and make sure
00:25:12.640
there's no lead information that they haven't followed that they should still investigate
00:25:15.620
but the cash patel and his fbi are going to get these documents out and hopefully the next time
00:25:20.740
it'll be done without the justice department's sort of uh well awkward stage management i guess is the
00:25:26.220
way to look at it john the the one of the documents they released yesterday was a black book which had
00:25:30.940
been out i looked back at my email because i'd sent it to lou right the unredacted version and i i looked i
00:25:36.700
sent it to lou in december of 2023 yeah that's right like you know i mean that's crazy now that that
00:25:42.500
that that's came out in a civil case that came out of the criminal case against um maxwell and i
00:25:47.740
think you know this was uh and listen the fbi knew that this wasn't big information uh i think the way
00:25:53.780
it got spun by by the justice department was unfortunate maybe it was a young aide maybe it
00:25:58.420
was the attorney general self i want to give her the benefit of doubt i don't know which one it was
00:26:02.220
but whoever was responsible for it it deserved the cause of transparency that president trump and suzy
00:26:08.580
wiles and pam bondi i know to be committed to and and we we know uh cash patel is what he did to get
00:26:14.680
the russia gate documents out um it just was it was a you know they had a bad day they stubbed their
00:26:20.400
toe now let's hope the next time they come back and do it better for the american people now i'm
00:26:24.400
talking to a few people about this one of them recently tony schaefer i don't know if you know
00:26:28.000
i know tony i had tony on the other day and we're talking about this john in my opinion the only
00:26:34.040
thing that should be redacted in these documents is uh victims names people who have been you know
00:26:39.400
from this right everyone who was involved in this it's fair game the way i look at it is he's a
00:26:44.500
private citizen he wasn't a government employee or any type that we know about right so why would
00:26:50.480
there be any sorts of redactions number one number two tony uh is is a very firm believer that
00:26:56.200
uh epstein wasn't just working for foreign governments he was a tool of the united states
00:27:01.200
government on the payroll of the united states government we need to find that out we need to
00:27:05.300
have any ever been able well i haven't been able to prove it i mean certainly people have suspected
00:27:08.960
it and it would make some sense maybe it would even explain why the first deal was such a sweet
00:27:13.200
art deal because he really got off easy in the first case uh but there's a whole nother you know
00:27:18.560
possibility which is that that um pressure was applied uh in that first case and we should get to
00:27:24.560
the bottom of that did were prosecutors uh under pressure not to go more aggressively because it would
00:27:30.300
embarrass people across the globe or in the united states these are things that the transparency
00:27:35.200
now on the issue you know i'm a journalist so i want the maximum amount of transparency and i always
00:27:41.580
argue and i fight for it and sometimes i sue for it many times i've sued for it in the last few years to
00:27:46.080
get information there are some specific laws if a piece of evidence was only gathered under a grand jury
00:27:53.600
subpoena uh known as 6e power and it was not gathered previously for that uh and it was only
00:28:00.960
presented to the grand jury and never was in a court file or public proceeding the law requires that it
00:28:06.300
remain redacted that's called grand jury secrecy it's something we've all lived with as journalists now
00:28:10.300
if the fbi gathered it beforehand and then the grand jury just subpoenaed it to get it into its thing
00:28:15.880
the fbi could then uh give uh that document up and just give the version that wasn't sent to the
00:28:21.880
grand jury and one of the things that cash patel's team is doing now is going through this new batch
00:28:27.000
of documents they found in the southern district of new york and finding out was all right this looks
00:28:30.980
like it went to the grand jury but didn't we have it before the grand jury could we release it in the
00:28:34.800
form before the grand jury i think the fbi will achieve some pretty significant transparency but there
00:28:40.580
are some strictures about under current laws you could actually be prosecuted for releasing
00:28:45.740
60 grand jury materials so there are some things and i think when you you know when you heard pam
00:28:50.660
we're going to release everything that wasn't ever really going to be true there are laws that say
00:28:55.040
you can't release certain things um so we'll see where it ends up i think we're going to learn a lot
00:28:59.400
more but we're not going to get 100 visibility because uh you know that's just the way the law
00:29:05.160
works we're going to learn a lot more if the fbi does his job in next next round and these first
00:29:09.960
round of documents were gathered before cash was really on the scene he's on the scene now and i i think
00:29:15.240
you're going to see a different type of release uh in the next batch uh you mentioned the first
00:29:21.400
sweetheart deal so this thing a lot of people don't realize this thing started around 2005 2006
00:29:25.880
under george w bush but more importantly john under ag pam bondi of the great state of florida
00:29:33.840
so it starts in 2005 john is a case that's brought to the palm beach police department that's right
00:29:38.620
people were very pissed off about how things transpired from 2005 to 2006 2006 the fbi gets
00:29:45.020
involved now back to what you had said what you've been trying to find out and what tony
00:29:49.280
shaffer had alluded to yeah if he is a government employee a government informant whatever you want
00:29:54.820
to call him would pam bondi know about this being she was the attorney general of florida while they're
00:30:00.000
they're looking into this guy it's probably if he was a federal informant the feds probably would
00:30:04.720
not have told the state uh they usually keep that stuff really tight like look how hard it was to
00:30:10.160
find out who the informants were in russia collusion right i mean we had to squeeze that out for months
00:30:14.700
to learn about christopher steele and his connect and then you couldn't find out he was even connected
00:30:19.100
to hillary clinton which was like the most important part of the whole story um uh the informant
00:30:24.460
informant identities are protect because the next informant might not come in if the last informant got
00:30:29.980
burned or made public and so there's a culture i think what ultimately happens in uh from my reporting
00:30:36.000
and having interviewed a lot of the people who worked that case back in 06 or 799 is that the
00:30:40.660
state looked at it it had a lot of interstate uh trafficking which means it's really got more juice
00:30:46.340
and more penalty at the federal level the feds come in and bigfoot the state right and say we're in charge
00:30:52.020
here and then that the u.s attorney there gave him a sweetheart deal and a deal that a lot of people
00:30:57.020
think could have been far more uh aggressive and i think um that is a an area that we don't know now
00:31:03.560
sometimes someone gets a sweetheart deal because they're not going to be on the payroll after the
00:31:08.340
fact right we're going to let you off light and you're going to inform for us maybe that's part of
00:31:12.340
the deal we were told it's not but we ought to look into that uh maybe it was just a bad call by
00:31:16.840
federal prosecutors that we know make a lot of bad calls we've seen them in the last 10 years with
00:31:21.600
russia collusion and other cases we there's a lot we don't know i don't think that pam bondy is in the
00:31:27.760
in the business of trying to give us a uh a lack of accountability because she might look bad
00:31:34.060
i think she's sincerely trying to get the stuff i think what happened was she didn't have what she
00:31:39.620
thought she had and rather than just come out and say it they tried to make it look like something
00:31:43.440
else and that never works in washington it never works anywhere to be honest with you right and you
00:31:48.120
got so many john we're all so invested it's the most invested i've ever seen private citizen the
00:31:53.820
average human being it's all because i think of twitter um that you know we're we're all pissed
00:31:59.400
off about this i want to turn to something that another thing i think a lot of people don't realize
00:32:03.760
is that james comey it's uh it's crazy that you constantly hear the same names john constantly
00:32:09.540
the last four years going up don't they right so true james comey and uh his offspring maureen comey
00:32:17.140
was responsible i believe the lead prosecutor for the southern district of new york in none other
00:32:22.440
than the jeffrey epstein case how does this happen do you think she's playing any role in the stonewalling
00:32:27.680
and covering up or deletion of documents we don't know and i don't want to cast aspersions on anyone
00:32:33.060
until we get to the bottom but i do think who played a role in hiding this batch of documents
00:32:38.220
forcing the director himself to get involved to find them by the way this is a bad use of the
00:32:42.740
director's time right we're facing some of the biggest terrorist threats in in our history
00:32:47.280
maybe even more severe than before 9-11 and we got to have a director because he can't trust his rank
00:32:52.540
and file in certain offices to go out and get these documents it's a bad long time use of a signal he's
00:32:58.000
going to fix this right and the way he fixes it is get the documents put them out and then any and
00:33:03.100
everyone who played a role in hiding this should be prosecuted for obstruction of justice or fired for
00:33:10.240
refusing to provide information to the american public remember these documents are also subpoenaed
00:33:17.200
by congress now why is that important it's a crime to hide something intentionally from congress so
00:33:22.680
there could be criminal prosecutions from people who it is it's too early to tell and often the early
00:33:28.900
assumptions about what we learn are not there i want to follow the trail we're digging really hard
00:33:33.400
and we're going to get more evidence and more information on this over the next few weeks
00:33:37.460
and when we know what really went on we're going to tell the american people like we did on
00:33:41.720
russia collusion with you and lou and what we learned about hunter biden we got that out the
00:33:46.700
whistleblowers there is a great big big story behind us i'm just not sure what it is yet we got to keep
00:33:51.880
digging real quick john before we go to break here do you think we ever find out who actually killed
00:33:56.760
jeffrey epstein and was it really himself i am uh it uh right now the the official conclusion is he
00:34:04.320
killed himself and then he may have killed himself with the complicity of uh of uh you know maybe some
00:34:11.240
people in the prison we're going to look the other way uh if you were used to the good life for a very
00:34:15.360
long time and now you're uh in in a cell like rikers and other places you know you're you you become
00:34:21.220
depressed pretty quickly prison is a really bad place and maybe he uh right now the preponderance
00:34:27.840
of evidence looks like it's a suicide just uh but that doesn't mean that everything should be
00:34:33.680
re-evaluated where we are there are some things that occurred that night that should never have
00:34:37.500
occurred in the prison system and you have to ask yourself why did they occur and i don't think we've
00:34:42.680
ever gotten good answers for that uh but you know official rulings there there isn't a whole lot of
00:34:47.480
evidence other than good healthy suspicion to counter it but this is the moment where we should
00:34:53.140
be able to get all that out we should listen every agency that has something on epstein which includes
00:34:58.180
the cia which gets a pass right now what does the cia got in this guy this guy traveled the globe was he
00:35:03.920
working for the cia businessmen that have far-reaching um uh contacts in the globe often get contacted by the
00:35:11.300
cia so i think the cio and the dni and the fbi and the justice department and the attorney general's
00:35:18.320
office in florida all owe us the transparency that we've been promised i think one thing we've learned
00:35:23.600
john if not many other things over the last eight years is there's there's only so many coincidences
00:35:28.260
that can happen before i was like maybe this isn't a coincidence anymore maybe uh maybe he didn't
00:35:34.280
kill himself maybe and that tendency what's that you're on to something that tendency to be suspicious
00:35:40.060
has been heightened by the fact that we were given such false stories like hunter biden's laptop is
00:35:45.460
russian disinformation baloney it never was and so i our heightened reason to be more suspicious and to
00:35:52.020
be more dubious has been earned by the bad actions of the government in the in the past 10 years and so
00:35:58.180
we're all more suspicious that said i always think that facts are a stubborn thing and that's how we've
00:36:02.740
been able to turn so many of these stories working with you and lou and i think that we should follow the
00:36:07.520
same path on this let's get the facts fight until we have every fact that then we'll make a really
00:36:11.700
good judgment yeah i think you're absolutely right john i want to take one more quick break here before
00:36:15.820
we hit our final segment on the other side of this quick break i want to take up those russiagate
00:36:19.740
documents that you fought so hard i want to take up the 2020 election the relitigation of it and what
00:36:25.200
can possibly happen a lot of people lost their jobs over it john a lot of people lost their lives
00:36:29.860
over talking about a stolen election uh you know i want to get your take on that and i also want to get
00:36:34.900
your take on what else president trump and pam bondage should be declassifying we're talking with
00:36:39.620
john solomon of justthenews.com he's also the host of just the news no noise on real america's voice
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john on president trump's last day in office you were instrumental in the declassification of
00:38:00.000
documents that never wound up getting declassified even though president trump declassified them
00:38:04.380
well they got declassified they just didn't get released that's the sad part yeah right so
00:38:08.700
and those are the russiagate documents the premise of the of donald trump's demise in his
00:38:14.740
administration and what made his life total hell can you tell us what happened on that day john the
00:38:21.100
process that played out and where we are right now in it yeah i have sworn this out under penalty of
00:38:26.600
in a case where i'm fighting to get those documents uh the president contacted me and i had a brief
00:38:32.160
meeting with him at the white house and he i told him and i'd written in public what i believe should
00:38:37.460
be released for history and for the american when was this john this would have been a couple days
00:38:41.240
before the president left i can't remember i'd probably be the 19th 18th 19th whenever it was
00:38:45.340
yeah and the president had been saying for weeks i'm going to do it he he brought me over and said
00:38:50.280
i've done it and you're going to get to see them in a few days and i thought that was really
00:38:53.360
exciting and then the night of the 19th uh mark meadows the then white house chief of staff
00:38:59.700
called me and said the president has executed the um the uh declassification order because the
00:39:09.160
documents had been classified i actually asked to see the declassification i wanted to make sure i
00:39:13.260
wasn't being given something that i'd get arrested for by the biden administration the next day
00:39:16.720
it was shown the actual order which then showed up the next day in the federal register and then mark
00:39:22.440
meadows said in a little while we'll send the documents over to and he sent a batch over with
00:39:26.320
an embargo on them meaning that these can't be used until noon on tuesday and so i didn't look
00:39:33.060
at those documents because they were embargoed i had a team of reporters that was instructed to begin
00:39:37.980
looking at them and scan them and and put them out for the american public but under the terms of an
00:39:42.640
embargo embargo is a very specific thing that journalists use um in retrospect i probably shouldn't have
00:39:47.660
agreed to the embargo but that's the way it was been done by the president's his documents
00:39:51.280
i agreed to within an hour or so of that process beginning i got a second set of documents it was
00:39:57.560
a small set from the larger set i i looked at them they were pretty good pretty important stuff
00:40:03.460
things uh on the informants and things that actually have had profound affecting civil cases
00:40:08.040
because people have used them in real court cases and i went out and wrote those and and while i was
00:40:13.240
riding those mark meadows called my team and said hey the fbi uh uh made a mistake on some
00:40:19.420
documents i need to take them back make some corrections we'll bring them back the next morning
00:40:23.120
because they were still under embargo journalists agree to that sort of thing we sent them back with
00:40:27.860
the pure hope that they would be back in a few hours and they just never came back and then the national
00:40:32.760
archives knows now the set i did get proved to be some of the most important documents that we learned
00:40:38.320
because we learned significant things about how much the fbi knew that um george papadopoulos
00:40:44.840
and uh carter page were not biting on all these efforts to make them look like russia they were
00:40:49.620
doing the opposite george papadopoulos like i wouldn't do that that's un-american and and and
00:40:53.840
uh carter page would say i'm not i'm not in bed with russia you know i'm not going to do that we're
00:40:59.120
we're loyalists we're patriots in the trump campaign so the fbi knew as they were bringing
00:41:03.520
this investigation along the very targets that they had opened up on were not doing anything
00:41:08.100
improper illegal inappropriate and yet they managed to continue that investigation
00:41:12.200
that stuff that wasn't even in the congressional report or in the ig report so those documents
00:41:16.960
were really valuable uh and they show you know some of these informants coming back saying it's
00:41:21.560
just not there it's not true and so uh there was also some evidence that one of the informants did
00:41:26.680
not tell the fbi the truth about mike flynn and they found out that that informant uh had not given
00:41:32.420
him an accurate story did they get rid of the informant no so the fbi didn't seem to care about bad
00:41:37.920
information they just wanted information that made donald trump look bad and they weren't getting it
00:41:42.060
those documents are very important i've written about them every one of them are in the public
00:41:45.760
domain but the rest of the documents which may not even be as interesting as the ones i got i think i
00:41:50.620
might have got the best hits um the national archives kept and then in defiance of the president's order
00:41:55.840
they did not release them they sent them to the national archives and they kept them away from me and
00:41:59.560
for the last four years i've been sewing to try to get them and a judge leon in washington dc wouldn't
00:42:05.080
give them to me and so we're appealing that and maybe donald trump could and cash patel could short
00:42:10.500
circle that and just send me the documents one more time this time i won't take them on embargo
00:42:15.040
i would go ride them and get them out that's so insane john you've been doing this for a very very
00:42:20.620
long time have you ever heard witnessed or seen exactly what had happened to you i've never oh many
00:42:26.020
times embargo things get pulled back no no no not the embargoed but then take them and never give them
00:42:30.180
back yeah no no it was a you know and i know mark meadows feels bad about it i think in his belief the
00:42:36.420
fbi really was just going to fix something specific the privacy act the thing we're talking
00:42:40.960
about that is a real thing and i don't want to violate the privacy act so i mean everyone acted
00:42:45.580
in good attention except the fbi and the national archives which played keep away for the last few
00:42:49.200
years and uh and you know at the end of the day the president of the united states lawfully elected
00:42:54.540
with the power he was given declassified and ordered them released and the deep state chose not to
00:43:00.500
release them i think that is an extraordinary thing and by the way the government does not say that
00:43:04.520
joe biden reclassified him isn't like a president came in a reclassive item that bureaucrats chose to
00:43:10.200
ignore a lawful order from a lawfully elected president and that's why when you say is there
00:43:14.780
a deep state well this is a pretty good example of what a deep state might look like that is that's
00:43:19.700
mind-blowing crazy that's what happened i that's crazy i've sworn it out and i provided all the evidence
00:43:24.980
in accord it's uh it's a well-documented what happened the problem is john you're probably one of the few
00:43:30.000
very few honest people in this in this industry there were probably people who would have taken
00:43:34.380
those documents and say go to hell they were declassified they were given to me see you later
00:43:38.700
um and i followed the rules because those are the rules and when you give someone your word your word
00:43:44.160
is your bond and so we follow that now i was lucky that night to get two subsets of documents and i'm
00:43:49.760
pretty certain from what i've known and from the reporting i'm doing that the subset i did get are
00:43:54.280
probably the most important documents uh i did get a copy of the fourth visa warrant but it still had
00:43:59.620
heavy redactions and i still think there is a single paragraph in the fourth visa that's public
00:44:05.240
now that could be potentially explosive it seems to appear to address a tactic and how they spied on
00:44:12.260
the president that doesn't look like anything that we've known about but it's all redacted but
00:44:16.340
my belief is that this president president 47 trump and his this fbi director cash patel could
00:44:24.440
declassify that one paragraph and i think people might be surprised there might have still been one
00:44:29.420
other spy tactic deployed against donald trump that we don't know about yet not talking about a honey
00:44:33.520
pot but maybe some other possible possible thing and i hope this president and uh this fbi director
00:44:39.560
fulfill the promise of the last president uh trump and get these out to the american public we
00:44:44.600
deserve it for history you mentioned honey pot so i've got to ask you what tony schaefer asked me the
00:44:48.940
other day have you ever heard of brownstoning no i haven't until well i mean i've heard of it
00:44:54.380
recently but no it isn't a term now there is as you know particularly during the cold war this
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was not an uncommon tactic used particularly during the cold war and certainly the soviets
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and russians used it that's how they compromised an fbi agent and we had one of the greatest spy
00:45:11.480
scandals in history um but um i'm not been able to get the level of detail that some other people
00:45:18.600
have on this and so i'm a little cautious on seeing whether this actually happened there could
00:45:23.600
have been an earlier operation to test the loyalties of donald trump and some of his aides i've always
00:45:29.600
suspected that because we see activity in march april in may that precede uh in 2016 the official start
00:45:37.220
uh and i do think there was an earlier operation that would be what we call loyalty testing by the
00:45:42.600
way that's a common tactic that the fbi sometimes uses um uh whether there's a honey pot element to that
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i have not been able to get confirmation and i pretty good sources uh but we're keeping to work
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on i know there's one whistleblower claiming it there are others who seem to have some access to
00:45:58.440
it that say i don't think that's what went on but there was you know there probably was some loyalty
00:46:02.360
testing going on that's not surprising um the fbi sometimes to root out counterintelligence threats
00:46:09.400
in america will run someone up to make sure that someone hasn't been compromised and they come back and
00:46:13.860
find out no that person's fine and then they they do the right thing they they drop off and they don't do it
00:46:18.580
again that could very well have happened because in 15 and 16 after the obama administration flipped
00:46:24.280
on russia they got all the riches from russia then they turned around and flipped on russia
00:46:28.360
russia would naturally be looking at the other party now the dem or the republicans to see if maybe
00:46:33.140
could we find some friends there because we were treated so badly so the fbi doing loyalty testing or
00:46:38.620
false flagging just to make sure that there weren't spies in the u.s government that's probably a
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legitimate thing we shouldn't be concerned about opening up a fake criminal investigation on
00:46:46.480
president trump in his age well you know that's a line that's way too far over john another issue
00:46:51.200
before we wrap up here that you know a lot about is the 2020 election re-litigation of it lou dobbs
00:46:56.700
was canceled from fox news now we don't know if that was the exact reason but the timing as i said
00:47:01.100
coincidences john just seem to not be coincidences anymore tucker carlson was eventually canceled a lot
00:47:06.960
of people's lives ruined on january 6th uh all because the american people believed the election was
00:47:12.640
stolen and it seems even more likely now as we look at this last election 2024 just on the simple
00:47:18.520
spike john in 2020 and you know i had called you uh after 2020 after the 2020 election and i said john
00:47:25.260
what happened and you had intimated to me john you'd said i'm not entirely sure about the electric thing
00:47:31.180
the electric voting machine i don't know anything about that except but what am i at what i'm gonna tell
00:47:35.240
you is that this seems like a good old-fashioned ballot stuffing operation that's right turns out
00:47:40.320
you know you're very true but we also don't know the other aspect which is the electric voting
00:47:44.440
machines whatever um do you think donald trump we haven't heard anything about it yet and over the
00:47:49.900
last month and a week about relitigating the 2020 election do you think we ever find out no you think
00:47:55.980
that's i don't think so no i don't think so i think we're done with that uh i think the president has
00:48:00.220
four years to solve some of the largest crises americans have ever faced this inflation crisis is far from
00:48:07.120
over the debt crisis is a millstone around our neck we've got two wars that need to be resolved
00:48:11.740
a government that needs to be broken down and i think at the end of the day donald trump's big
00:48:17.780
change on elections occurred in december of 2022 when the republicans underperformed for a second
00:48:23.800
election they didn't win as many seats as they thought they didn't capture the senate and i think at
00:48:28.400
that point the president finally decided to get into the early voting game that democrats had
00:48:32.700
mastered and i think you saw what happened this time around donald trump got five six seven million
00:48:38.440
americans to vote early for the first time ever in who hadn't voted in many cases like in the lee
00:48:43.280
zelden operation like four million people who hadn't voted since 2016 voted early and that's how you see
00:48:49.500
the margins change and you see the opposite thing happen with democrats uh if you're enthusiastic
00:48:54.860
about your candidate or you hate the other candidate a lot it's easy to get low propensity voters to vote
00:49:00.540
early but if you think your candidate is brain dead i.e joe biden or uh just not presidential material
00:49:07.840
i.e kamala harris you can't get those people to vote early and so the democrat numbers dropped
00:49:13.220
and donald trump had everybody electrified then after the the two assassination attempts he reaches
00:49:18.520
sort of home with mythical standards and the republicans voted in uh in numbers unseen
00:49:24.560
in early voting in republican party history i think that the president now i don't speak for him but i
00:49:31.240
think the president's team is convinced that early voting was a difference now there's a lot of things
00:49:35.660
that happened in 2020 that the republicans should be ashamed of they didn't contest things that they
00:49:40.240
should have they didn't look at things now i went to two uh major uh brown zeros of the 2020 election
00:49:48.240
wisconsin and georgia and i spent weeks and months and i mean in the data like nobody uh in some cases
00:49:56.220
i had entire every ballot of every voter in an entire city like milwaukee every single absentee ballot
00:50:03.700
and i called those people one by one by one and i could not find and i had old team doing this
00:50:09.420
uh the people who said they voted actually did vote um and the the paper ballots match up pretty closely
00:50:16.920
to you know within a few couple here and there uh to the actual numbers that the machine spit out
00:50:23.960
so at least in the city of milwaukee and in parts of wisconsin where i delve in and as you know i did
00:50:28.920
historic work on what happened in atlanta i found things that brad rassenberger had to go back and fix
00:50:34.160
um but in both of those places the paper ballots predominantly matched the final totals now there was an error
00:50:41.040
in the recount and brian kemp ultimately who didn't buy any of this stuff ultimately admitted there was
00:50:47.220
an error in the recount and it was a large error in the recount several hundred votes but it wasn't
00:50:52.700
seven or eight or ten thousand to switch the the election results but it's a reminder that in these
00:50:57.800
big blue area areas there is not only potential fraud there is just really bad uh machinery meaning
00:51:05.420
not the machines but the people it's just they don't hire quality people or they don't have
00:51:09.880
quality practices and bad things happen at the end of the day i'm not sure we're going to learn
00:51:14.840
something now there's a really legitimate question that i think people can ask themselves which is the
00:51:19.840
election um assistance agency eia i think it's called they keep certifying these machines and then
00:51:26.740
after the election it's like oh some of the things we said about the last machines aren't quite right
00:51:30.320
and they keep making changes to the machinery and i think i could imagine someone in the next year say
00:51:38.520
the assurances we've been given about how locked down the machines are don't meet the test of
00:51:43.480
assurity that we're given so we vote then we find it after they weren't quite as secure as we thought
00:51:47.340
that doesn't mean that the machines were hijacked but maybe they're not as perfect as they're made to
00:51:53.100
me before the election i could imagine someone filing a lawsuit the next year saying
00:51:57.740
you know if the government keeps certifying machines and they don't live up to what the
00:52:02.700
standards are even if there's not cheating is that good enough for america and maybe challenging
00:52:06.620
machine counting based on the lack of assurances that some of these post reviews have occurred
00:52:12.620
uh and shown you know there's been changes of things people saying oh wait that we did find this
00:52:16.880
full after the election um that is a lawsuit someone might want to do under the equal protection
00:52:22.020
clause of the constitution i could imagine that that's not a detriment to the uh machine companies
00:52:27.580
it's not an allegation that the machines were hijacked or did things but it is is the standard
00:52:32.780
of these are really awesome machines uh uh is it really the right standard to apply to them and if
00:52:38.360
it's not have we misled americans when they vote i could imagine someone going down that path i don't
00:52:42.880
know how the courts will rule and i don't know how good the evidence is i could imagine something like
00:52:46.840
that but i can't imagine someone going back and saying i'm going to recount every ballot in atlanta and
00:52:51.600
find the missing votes i just i did a lot of that myself the old-fashioned way and and the tallies are
00:52:56.740
pretty close minus the changes i did find i mean the governor of georgia who claimed there was
00:53:00.920
nothing wrong with georgia he admitted there was some miscounting based on my reporting and some
00:53:05.340
work by other people uh so there were problems the elections are not perfect but i do think the
00:53:10.640
largest thing that republicans had to realize is they got beat on an early voting machine and as soon
00:53:15.340
as they started doing it the democrats can't keep up with republicans i think republicans are in very
00:53:19.960
good shape long term to win future elections no matter what the election system is whether it's machines
00:53:25.640
early voting absentee voting they got in the game and the way i described 2020 is if you were the um
00:53:33.660
the uh kansas city chiefs and you went into super bowl and he said you know i'm not gonna use my wide
00:53:38.700
receivers and running backs i'm gonna try to win without them you're like why are you doing that
00:53:42.520
that's kind of what republicans did they said well we allowed absentee voting in really loose
00:53:48.540
absentee voting really loose rules to occur and we didn't participate in well what do you think's
00:53:53.080
going to happen you know you pied a hand behind your back they've changed that and i think that
00:53:58.720
the republican party is in extraordinary shape to win elections going forward and whatever terms
00:54:04.440
the election rules are on just to wrap up on that there's an interesting case which i'm sure you're
00:54:09.660
familiar with down in georgia in front of judge amy totenberg in which they are challenging uh the
00:54:15.840
plaintiffs to get rid of uh the voting systems that they use down there yep and they brought in j alex
00:54:21.180
alderman to hack the machine the guy did it with the ballpoint pen in a matter of seconds
00:54:24.780
and the interesting part about it that's the argument that i think that people are looking at
00:54:29.160
i think that's that's the argument people are looking at right but we still don't have a ruling
00:54:32.620
john this case has been going on for years well that that let's see if they let's see if they move
00:54:36.980
this into a different venue soon i think you could imagine a state like texas or a state like
00:54:42.340
montana maybe saying you know i've been through enough here i want to look at this and maybe you get a
00:54:47.660
faster docket uh but i could imagine that type of argument proceeding and i don't know where the
00:54:54.220
evidence would go i'm going to be honest i don't know where the evidence would go but i think that
00:54:57.640
could be a legitimate debate that could play out in america and we wouldn't be ashamed by it but i do
00:55:02.140
think the the the idea that you know we're going to go back and try to find the missing ballots in
00:55:06.200
2020 i think i think we move past that we're the greatest country in the world john it we are i think
00:55:11.120
it's too much to ask for just honesty you know yeah yeah we're going to get a lot more of it listen
00:55:16.440
all the truths we were denying we're getting a lot more truths for the first time and i think
00:55:19.900
we're starting to feel like the america of old for the first time i think that's a good thing for all
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of us yeah john solomon just the news you can catch him each and every night just the news no noise
00:55:28.100
on real america's voice thanks so much for taking the time great to be with you today thanks to john
00:55:32.980
solomon for taking the time to join us today folks uh great american uh really knows uh the stuff
00:55:38.560
really knows the documents as he's been working on this for a very very very long time alongside the
00:55:43.160
great lou dobbs uh so we can't wait to speak with john again uh very very soon folks thank you all
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for joining us today as well we hope to see you back here tomorrow for the great america show as
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