The Great America Show - April 13, 2022


ZUCKERBERG PAID $10K PER VOTE FOR BIDEN’S MARGIN OF VICTORY IN 3 STATES


Episode Stats

Length

58 minutes

Words per Minute

172.49242

Word Count

10,113

Sentence Count

609

Misogynist Sentences

10

Hate Speech Sentences

17


Summary

Today's guest is Claudia Tenney of New York. She sits on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, the Small Business Committee, and is founder and co-chair of the Election Integrity Caucus. She's been elected to the House of Representatives from New York, a blue state that embraces Marxism.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody, and welcome to the big show, The Great America Show.
00:00:04.520 Great to have you with us on today's edition, featuring, as it does every single day, truth, justice, and the American way.
00:00:13.060 Let's begin with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky asking, begging for more equipment and supplies and weapons for his troops,
00:00:22.180 for the Ukrainian resistance, who've defended their homeland with power and resilience, and shocked most of the world who believed it would all be over for Ukraine
00:00:32.360 within a few days, perhaps a couple of weeks, when Putin ordered Russian troops to invade.
00:00:39.380 It's now almost 50 days since the invasion began, and the Ukrainians fight on.
00:00:45.680 Their toughness and their fierce determination turned back the Russians from their assault on the Ukrainian capital of Kiev.
00:00:53.980 Unquestionably, a defeat for Putin and his military, and a costly defeat at that.
00:00:59.140 Perhaps 20, maybe 30,000 Russians killed.
00:01:02.940 But the war goes on.
00:01:04.720 No one, no leader in Europe or America, or for that matter, Russia, has much chance of swaying Putin from his bloody, devastating course.
00:01:13.540 Neither NATO or Biden have, it seems, any idea how to stop or to slow the Russian attacks
00:01:21.280 while the West ships more weaponry and warplanes to the Ukrainians.
00:01:26.100 And Biden's mishandling of the war hasn't helped him or his party in the polls, to say the least.
00:01:32.700 While the Senate and House will be taking off most of the rest of the year to campaign,
00:01:37.660 both parties are well aware of poll numbers that spell big trouble for Democrats in both chambers.
00:01:44.880 Strategists say they expect perhaps historic losses for the radical Dems who chose this midterm election year
00:01:52.120 to go hard left and follow their Marxist impulses and imperatives to what looks like an electoral disaster in November.
00:02:01.160 I'm unaware of a single Democrat who's begging President Biden to come to a state or a district to help them win their election.
00:02:10.120 Quite the opposite.
00:02:11.840 Biden is radioactive.
00:02:13.780 He's responsible for the worst inflation in more than 40 years.
00:02:17.900 Americans don't think he's fit to be in the White House.
00:02:21.300 Seventy percent of Americans say the country's headed in the wrong direction,
00:02:24.820 and they hate his border and immigration policies, and as a result, his poll numbers have absolutely collapsed.
00:02:32.300 And the same for the generic Dem running for re-election.
00:02:36.620 In short, the Biden White House overreached with its hardcore leftist executive orders and policies,
00:02:43.920 and nothing in the Biden agenda is working.
00:02:47.760 Nothing.
00:02:48.200 And then, on one of his rare days outside Washington, Biden was in Iowa pushing his ethanol plan that will boost farmers,
00:02:57.540 but then tried to link Biden inflation to Putin once again, and the reaction was swift.
00:03:04.080 A bird appeared to have pooped on his left lapel, and that wrapped up another Biden mess.
00:03:10.820 Some will say it's karma, others that it's generalized ineptitude, and others that it's impaired faculties are worsening.
00:03:19.520 Whatever the cause or causes, the result is always, it seems, a mess.
00:03:24.500 And another mess of immense proportions is awaiting the Democratic Party in November.
00:03:30.040 Some political analysts and strategists say the Democrats could lose as many as 70 seats,
00:03:35.140 but outcomes are always hard to predict some six to seven months out from an election.
00:03:41.260 Our guest today is Attorney and Congresswoman Claudia Tenney of New York.
00:03:46.200 She sits on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, House Small Business Committee,
00:03:50.280 and is founder and co-chair of the Election Integrity Caucus.
00:03:55.620 Congresswoman Tenney, it is great to have you with us on The Great America Show.
00:03:59.480 I've wanted to talk to you for some time, and I'm just delighted to have you on the show.
00:04:05.720 Welcome.
00:04:06.700 Thank you.
00:04:07.340 Well, it's just an honor to be on with the great Lou Dobbs.
00:04:09.700 I was a big fan of yours for many years, even when you went from CNN to Fox Business.
00:04:16.100 So, you know, truth, justice in the American way, and fighting in the arena is good stuff.
00:04:23.040 And so I feel very lucky.
00:04:24.320 Let me turn to a number of things.
00:04:28.660 You've been elected to the Congress from New York.
00:04:35.840 New York is, in the eyes of most of the country, a rabid left-wing blue state
00:04:42.720 that seems to embrace Marxism and everything socialist.
00:04:50.340 What is your district like?
00:04:52.740 Well, that's New York City.
00:04:54.320 And the rest of the state is actually pretty moderate and very red in some portions.
00:05:00.520 When, for example, Governor Cuomo wins, he only wins about five or six counties of the 62 counties in New York.
00:05:07.940 So the rest of us are orphans out in the rest of the state, being besieged by Albany and the far-left policies,
00:05:14.980 which have gone from very left-wing progressive to very almost communist, really communist right now,
00:05:21.240 is what we're seeing in New York.
00:05:22.360 So the rest of New York, where so much prosperity has been throughout the many years,
00:05:27.640 the Erie Canal was dug in my congressional district, where we started the Industrial Revolution.
00:05:32.940 The first oil and gas discovered in the United States was in New York State.
00:05:38.000 And many people don't know this is what New York is about.
00:05:41.960 A lot of great companies.
00:05:43.700 IBM was founded in my district, the oldest manufacturing company, basic manufacturing company in the United States,
00:05:50.760 known as Revere Copper, is actually in my district, is still operating.
00:05:54.300 So Revere is started by Paul Revere.
00:05:57.580 So it's amazing what we've had and what we've lost.
00:06:01.260 And the Empire State was the Empire State because we had, you know, all the leaders in industry,
00:06:06.480 all the leaders in business here in this country, in this state.
00:06:09.620 And now so much of it has been gouged out by a lot of globalist policies, a lot of liberal policies,
00:06:16.800 and high taxes, high regulations, you know, just a lack of realistic approach
00:06:21.980 and really a hostile due toward anybody in business or anyone who seeks to make a profit or actually grow their wealth.
00:06:30.180 As a member of the Foreign Affairs Committee, I want to turn first to the Ukraine war,
00:06:35.880 which we're told is going to intensify in the East.
00:06:39.060 Putin is bringing greater power to bear, weaponry against the Ukrainians in the Donbass region in the East.
00:06:48.980 Your thoughts about what the Ukraine situation is.
00:06:52.920 You see it now.
00:06:54.560 Yes.
00:06:54.740 Well, I think the Ukrainians have stunned the world with their resiliency and willingness and ability to fight back against Putin.
00:07:02.440 And I think nobody expected that.
00:07:04.820 And including the United States, which was really very late as President Biden was very late to really provide the lethal aid
00:07:11.740 and also late to deter Putin's ingress into the Ukraine.
00:07:17.760 For months and months, Putin was amassing troops on the border, just saying, oh, we just have troops on the border.
00:07:22.800 It was never taken seriously by the Biden administration.
00:07:26.040 And so the reaction of the Biden administration was sort of a wait and see instead of leading the world
00:07:31.800 and making sure that we win this, because if the Ukrainians don't win, it looks to me very similar to what happened in World War II,
00:07:41.540 that we could have almost a World War III on our hands, this incrementalism of things just starting to move.
00:07:46.860 And if Putin is successful and this new general that he's appointed, it's going to be as awful and gruesome as it was to watch what happened in Syria
00:07:55.620 when Putin went in to help Assad decimate the Syrians.
00:07:59.540 So I think that the concern I have is that we're too late to the game.
00:08:04.260 We have provided some lethal aid.
00:08:06.640 It was late and very indecisive on the part of the Biden administration.
00:08:10.020 Other countries have stood up.
00:08:12.180 And obviously, because Ukraine is not a NATO country, it's been a little bit more complicated.
00:08:17.800 But where we are today, though, is really interesting.
00:08:20.440 It comes down to something interesting, where Russia's greatest strength and their economic energy,
00:08:27.040 their economic engine is energy, is supporting oil and gas.
00:08:31.580 And we still have not put crippling sanctions on Russia's ability to sell oil and gas.
00:08:39.860 And the reaction of the Biden administration is this.
00:08:43.000 Let's make everybody drive an electric car.
00:08:45.640 Let's take away the dependency on oil and gas today.
00:08:50.000 And then the Russians will have nothing to sell.
00:08:52.260 Well, that is a 10, 20, 30-year plan that is not in place.
00:08:56.440 We don't have the infrastructure.
00:08:57.940 We don't have the reliability of electrification.
00:09:00.740 And it's interesting, because Putin is actually the one who's been selling this sort of mythology
00:09:05.820 of this green energy is going to just immediately supplant us.
00:09:10.800 Back in 2014, it was discovered, even by Rasmussen, who was once the head of NATO, that the Russians
00:09:18.160 were spending millions and millions, up to $100 million, on a disinformation campaign, let
00:09:23.600 me use the Democrats term, to try to move the Europeans and the U.S. away from the idea
00:09:30.280 that they could use natural gas and then create this dependency on Russia.
00:09:34.480 So Russia is still raking in the money.
00:09:37.440 We aren't opening up the XL Keystone Pipeline.
00:09:41.400 We aren't exploring responsible, safe gas drilling in places like my district in New York
00:09:46.940 State, which has abundant natural gas, whether it's the Utica and Marcella Shell, right in
00:09:51.880 my own district, or across the nation.
00:09:53.980 And now they're actually just dragging these oil and gas companies over the coal, saying,
00:09:59.280 oh, they're just profiteers.
00:10:00.720 And these are massive investments that come from these companies.
00:10:04.240 And to say that we're going to cut you off in a couple of years is, you know, they have
00:10:08.700 shareholders to respond to.
00:10:10.260 And it's just a total economic illiteracy about how our system works.
00:10:14.860 And Putin is taking advantage of it very smartly.
00:10:17.580 And yet, you know, he's a brutal, murderous dictator who doesn't have to worry about the
00:10:23.320 people in his country.
00:10:24.780 And they're not going to vote him out because they're getting propaganda fed to them.
00:10:28.400 I know what it's like to have propaganda.
00:10:29.720 I lived in a communist country, even though it wasn't a Soviet bloc country, there was
00:10:34.280 still, it was still a communist country of a sort back when I lived in Yugoslavia.
00:10:38.260 So you're seeing this complex situation where the U.S., though they're acting now, we still
00:10:43.620 haven't really cut Russia off where the sanctions are the most critical.
00:10:47.400 And then the other interesting thing is while we're in this brutal situation in Ukraine where
00:10:52.160 a, you know, a member of the, a permanent member of the U.N. Security Council is actually,
00:10:57.020 who's, by the way, those five countries involved are supposed to be maintaining the world's
00:11:02.160 peace and the world's security, you know, is bombing the hell out of a country right
00:11:06.260 next door and trying to take it over.
00:11:08.580 They're in the permanent, a permanent member of a, you know, it makes you wonder why we
00:11:12.640 even have the U.N. anymore.
00:11:14.000 And they're also the key negotiator in the Iran nuclear deal, which would, would put,
00:11:19.040 intimidate our neighbors and, and, and put fear in our neighbors over in, you know, in the
00:11:24.500 Middle East and not that they're pushing, uh, because of the Biden administration's fecklessness
00:11:29.200 and weakness, they're pushing a lot of our allies to China, who is our greatest adversary
00:11:34.180 and really our enemy.
00:11:35.620 And so in every way, really.
00:11:37.600 And so it's, it's just a complex situation where we cannot afford to have Ukraine lose
00:11:42.700 at this point because the Chinese every day are gauging how we handle this crisis in
00:11:48.740 Ukraine.
00:11:49.120 They saw what a disaster and debacle and tragedy Afghanistan was where 13 service members were
00:11:56.300 needlessly killed.
00:11:57.880 And Biden is still saying, I don't need to apologize.
00:11:59.960 This was going to happen anyway.
00:12:01.800 I mean, I'm a mother of an, of a Marine officer for someone to say that when my child is, uh,
00:12:07.120 answered the call to serve and ends up, you know, these families, we, we created 13 gold
00:12:11.680 star families and, and to have this complete, uh, you know, lack of empathy for these families.
00:12:17.280 And now to go in and not really know what he's doing in Ukraine, all of the fecklessness
00:12:22.120 of, of president Biden, his meandering, his incompetence, you know, for decades on top
00:12:28.460 of now, the question about whether he's really got the, you know, the mental faculties to
00:12:32.860 do the job, all of that is signaling to our enemies that we're not reliable, uh, that we
00:12:38.620 can't stand up to, to, to Russia.
00:12:40.880 We can't stand up to China.
00:12:42.220 And it's really put us in, I think one of the most devastating situations we've been
00:12:46.880 in in many, many years.
00:12:47.860 I, I, I dare say since world war II and the, the administration itself, the Biden administration
00:12:55.040 seems to, to boil down to this, at least for me, uh, Joe Biden is impaired.
00:13:01.400 Uh, the Ronnie Jackson, Congressman Ronnie Jackson has now twice asked for a cognitive test, uh,
00:13:11.280 has been rebuffed by the white house because they're not going to give a cognitive test
00:13:16.500 to this president because they know what the results will be.
00:13:20.080 President Trump, on the other hand, when the Democrats, uh, snarkily, uh, went after him
00:13:26.140 to take a cognitive test, did so and, uh, passed it according to, uh, a, uh, to dr, uh, running
00:13:34.900 Jackson, uh, you know, he's, he passed it with flying colors and Jackson, by the way, was
00:13:41.340 doctor to three presidents in the white house and knows wherever he speaks.
00:13:45.260 So it's, it's a difficult situation, but this, this man is a puppet and people need to understand
00:13:52.060 that about it.
00:13:52.720 These aren't his ideas.
00:13:54.400 This isn't his administration.
00:13:56.180 It's the third term of Barack Obama.
00:13:59.420 And there is no doubt about it.
00:14:01.460 And that, uh, band of Marxist leftists, uh, who were, were, uh, put in a cabal to manage
00:14:11.620 this little administration called the Biden white house.
00:14:15.620 Uh, they are having their way right now.
00:14:17.920 The Southern border is wide open that the Biden administration.
00:14:22.580 Right now is pro fentanyl.
00:14:24.880 It is pro methamphetamines.
00:14:27.760 It is pro, uh, heroin and cocaine.
00:14:30.920 It is pro sex trafficking.
00:14:33.720 It is pro illegal immigration.
00:14:36.380 And it gives a damn about the fact that 150 countries, illegal immigrants are crossing what
00:14:43.040 was once our border with Mexico.
00:14:45.480 It is stunning stuff.
00:14:47.280 And to think that this administration continues without so much as a, a response of any kind
00:14:54.240 from the corporate owned national leftist media is, is, is breathtaking.
00:15:00.480 And they're running, they're running interference for them.
00:15:03.060 I mean, you point out, I'm on Ronnie Jackson's letter, uh, who Ronnie Jackson, by the way,
00:15:07.280 Dr.
00:15:07.600 Ronnie Jackson, amazing guy, really strong Patriot, really, really terrific.
00:15:11.880 They're trying to take away his benefits.
00:15:13.740 So it's, it's just like having the propaganda strong arm of the Democrat machine to break,
00:15:20.160 you know, strike down anyone who has first met, you know, especially Ronnie Jackson speaking
00:15:24.200 his mind about something.
00:15:25.320 They're trying to take away his military retirement.
00:15:27.580 He served as an admiral, served our country.
00:15:30.500 And, uh, this is what they do though.
00:15:32.100 They destroy anyone who dares to stand up to him.
00:15:34.720 It's not just the corporate media.
00:15:36.660 The corporate media empowers these Democrats who are running our government.
00:15:41.020 And it's not all Democrats, it's the people in charge.
00:15:43.680 And when you talk about, I mean, nobody, and I can't believe they haven't tried to hide
00:15:48.020 this footage.
00:15:49.020 No one could see more beautifully demonstrated.
00:15:51.760 And tragically, I might add the footage of Obama's first appearance back in the white
00:15:56.660 house with Joe Biden, wandering aimlessly around all by himself and the rest of the
00:16:01.740 Democrats swarming around president Obama.
00:16:04.320 And then, you know, comments later by president Obama, he said, geez, you know, I wouldn't like
00:16:08.000 to really go through the hassle of doing a third term, you know, typical Obama type statement,
00:16:12.440 but I wouldn't mind having someone there in place to do the ceremony.
00:16:15.340 And I could control everything behind the scene and I'm paraphrasing, but that's exactly
00:16:19.300 what you have.
00:16:19.920 They almost, they almost admitted it and it's tragic to see that.
00:16:24.240 And then to see the border, I mean, the border, you know, we are empowering and creating
00:16:29.360 the wealth in the cartels, not in the American people.
00:16:32.760 The taxpayers are paying for all of this and we're paying for it, not just through money.
00:16:37.280 You're going to see continued crime.
00:16:39.380 You're going to see the continuation of people.
00:16:41.400 Anyone can come across the border now.
00:16:43.100 And I don't know if you've seen the recent stories right in the Navy yard in Washington,
00:16:48.520 D.C., which is just near the Capitol, not even a mile from the U.S. Capitol.
00:16:52.480 We had undercover, you know, so-called phony spies living in luxurious conditions with sub,
00:17:00.280 you know, automatic weapons and all kinds of inside resources working for the vice president
00:17:06.820 and Jill Biden, who were, you know, disguised as spies.
00:17:10.320 You know, this story just broke a few days ago, right in the Navy yard.
00:17:14.020 I mean, these people have no control over it.
00:17:16.300 We've been already overrun.
00:17:17.800 Think about how many people would do harm to the American people, whether they're Russian
00:17:21.640 spies, spies from China, from all over the world.
00:17:24.960 Many of them are already here.
00:17:26.140 They can just walk across the southern border right now.
00:17:28.960 It's a joke.
00:17:29.580 And 150 countries are represented in all of those illegal crossings, 2 million, 2 million
00:17:39.000 illegal immigrants.
00:17:40.180 We don't know who they are.
00:17:42.520 And of those 2 million in his first year in office, President Biden released 1.6 million
00:17:50.300 into American society, as you well know.
00:17:52.560 But what maybe our audience doesn't know is that when next month, Title 42 is lifted, which
00:18:02.060 is that gives that order gives the power to the executive to remove illegal immigrants to
00:18:09.620 Mexico or to their countries of origin.
00:18:12.400 When that is dropped, the estimates are that we will see 3.5 million more illegal immigrants
00:18:19.860 into this country within the next year.
00:18:22.560 That is transformational.
00:18:25.180 And that is exactly what the Biden administration, President Obama, and the cabal that surrounds
00:18:32.940 them, the Marxist cabal, mean to happen.
00:18:35.820 Because that will, because of redistricting and the importance of the census count, that
00:18:42.560 will tip district after district, perhaps dozens of districts, toward the Democrats from which
00:18:49.040 there will be no return.
00:18:50.640 Yeah, I mean, I think this is by design at the southern border.
00:18:53.740 And I will, I have visited the southern border.
00:18:55.900 I went to the El Paso sector.
00:18:57.680 I also interviewed Senator Roger Marshall, who is part of the Doctors Caucus.
00:19:03.320 And he went to the border.
00:19:04.820 And I verified and looked up some of the CDC reports.
00:19:07.880 It's not just COVID-19.
00:19:10.040 That's the excuse that the Biden administration is using, saying, oh, there's no more COVID-19 because
00:19:16.280 we decided there isn't, not because of science, by the way.
00:19:20.620 But there are so many other diseases coming across that border.
00:19:24.120 They have detected mumps, measles in older people in cases of tuberculosis, HIV, AIDS, communicable
00:19:32.920 diseases that have been eradicated or been resolved by American science and technology that are just
00:19:38.420 people coming across this border, and we can't do anything about it.
00:19:41.720 And I went through the system of what, many of the children have head lice.
00:19:45.580 They get medical care.
00:19:46.980 They have resources given to them.
00:19:48.800 And all of this is done by the goodness of our border patrol, who are being stretched and
00:19:54.620 stressed beyond their abilities because there's so many people coming across the border.
00:19:58.620 And they've been disrespected and demoralized by this administration and people like AOC.
00:20:04.760 And yet they're doing heroic work trying to do what they can with this onrush of people
00:20:10.040 coming across the border from all walks of life.
00:20:12.600 And as you said, over 150 countries, people with all kinds of intentions, whether good or
00:20:18.120 not, probably mostly not, because the minute you set foot across our border, you're committing
00:20:22.340 a crime unless you're doing it legally.
00:20:23.920 And then leaving all these people who I've known throughout my years who are still waiting
00:20:28.880 in line, waiting in line to become legal citizens of this country because they believe in freedom
00:20:33.940 and they understand it so well.
00:20:36.380 They know if there is no United States where our constitution upholds freedom and individual
00:20:42.280 rights and the ability to preserve that with sovereign territories and borders, there's
00:20:48.880 nowhere else to go.
00:20:50.200 This is the last bastion of hope.
00:20:52.000 And it's scary because the Democrats don't really care.
00:20:54.960 And if they say they care, they don't do anything about it.
00:20:57.380 Or they're so afraid of the far left challenging them in a primary that they won't stand up.
00:21:03.100 And they've allowed this administration to run amok.
00:21:05.420 And we've struggled to try to get them.
00:21:07.920 And a lot of the things that have happened with the Biden administration finally acted somewhat
00:21:12.060 on the border, which they do nothing, or on Ukraine has become from a few bipartisan Democrats
00:21:18.180 with most of the, almost all the Republicans to push the administration to act because we're
00:21:23.340 in such dire circumstances.
00:21:24.880 And that, you know, we'll get to the election issue.
00:21:27.480 I mean, that's a huge problem when you talk about what the Democrats are going to do with
00:21:31.300 the election.
00:21:31.960 And I say this to these Republicans who I think sometimes are very weak and very nonchalant
00:21:37.480 about this issue after what I went through and what I've been through in an election process
00:21:41.880 where I was just a lawyer, a newspaper owner, and a business owner.
00:21:45.740 You know, I told the truth about both sides.
00:21:48.320 I didn't, you know, I did my level best to make sure that the citizens who I represented
00:21:53.200 in my newspaper were informed is to the best I could do it without bias.
00:21:57.580 And I am a Republican, but I went after the sacred cows in both parties, which is why I
00:22:02.620 always had the struggle.
00:22:04.360 You know, I've had all this money spent.
00:22:05.680 I've had, you know, 47 million spent against me, but 13 million of it was by Republicans to
00:22:10.880 try to take me out and not tell the truth.
00:22:14.060 But I see this.
00:22:15.740 Go ahead.
00:22:16.480 I'm sorry to interrupt you.
00:22:18.000 I want to get into that.
00:22:20.480 Yeah, my big concern is, so let's get into that.
00:22:23.700 Let me just say, this is my biggest concern.
00:22:25.300 And I'll tell you why I'm worried.
00:22:27.860 The Democrats know the red wave is coming.
00:22:30.700 They know they can't win on policy.
00:22:33.020 They know they have to win by process and basically cheating.
00:22:36.200 And they're doing everything they can right now, as much behind the scenes, to make sure that
00:22:40.860 red wave doesn't hit the shore.
00:22:42.760 And I worry that the Republicans are not strong enough and standing up and being very vocal
00:22:47.740 on this issue because the Democrats are effectively silencing everyone by saying, oh, if you challenge
00:22:53.540 the election or raise election integrity, you're immediately deemed an insurrectionist.
00:22:59.420 Or a racist.
00:23:00.500 Or racist.
00:23:01.240 I mean, look at Hillary Clinton just a couple of days ago.
00:23:03.260 I think it was yesterday.
00:23:04.040 Got up and said that she, you know, that Russia and Putin helped Trump win the 2016 election.
00:23:09.320 Does that make her an insurrectionist and a seditionist?
00:23:13.560 You know, the people have got to wake up and say that democracy.
00:23:16.860 It makes her a liar.
00:23:18.360 And a damn liar at that.
00:23:22.420 It's time that the American people got used to some relatively direct and plain language.
00:23:28.440 Because we are in a crisis and no one really wants to admit the dimensions of it, whether
00:23:35.600 it is an open border, whether it is a corporate media that is trying to herd all of America
00:23:41.120 into a left-wing Marxist corner.
00:23:46.180 They're trying to destroy everything about this country.
00:23:49.540 They're trying to destroy it.
00:23:50.720 They've almost gotten it done.
00:23:51.980 And they're trying to destroy public education in this country.
00:23:56.580 There is nowhere you turn, Congresswoman, that there isn't an elite guiding, if not owning,
00:24:06.060 every sector of our economy, whether it's business, whether it's government, whether it's
00:24:10.580 politics, whether it's education, whether it's universities and colleges or K-12, whether
00:24:16.700 it's media, whether it's even the upper echelons of our military, the woke left-wing military,
00:24:24.140 for crying out loud.
00:24:26.080 It is, I think, I have to say that this is the damnedest point that I thought we would
00:24:32.800 ever reach in the course of my lifetime.
00:24:37.040 It's impossible, I think, for most people to even believe what they feel and what they
00:24:42.140 see.
00:24:42.920 Yeah, you're exactly right.
00:24:43.940 And here's the concern I have about just my role as a former lawyer, newspaper owner,
00:24:49.960 as I was alluding to.
00:24:51.340 Look, I love President Lincoln for a lot of reasons.
00:24:55.240 My son kind of turned me on to him.
00:24:56.760 My son, who is one of the most well-read people I know, and obviously he's the greatest son
00:25:02.420 ever because he's mine.
00:25:03.400 I'm kidding.
00:25:04.660 But anyway, he's a tremendously well-read, smart kid who is very objective about the way
00:25:11.100 he views things, and he's good at analysis, Naval Academy graduate, served as a Marine
00:25:16.200 officer.
00:25:18.160 Now he's a reserve unit.
00:25:20.100 But my concern in reading a lot about Lincoln, and again, my son kind of turning me on to
00:25:24.860 some of this stuff, is Lincoln was at a critical point where we thought this was the end of
00:25:28.800 the United States in the 1800s, the Civil War, terrible situation.
00:25:33.040 And we had a leader emerge.
00:25:34.500 We had somebody who emerged at the right time who was able to grasp that leadership.
00:25:40.220 And one of the things that I find so interesting about Lincoln is when you read him, he was
00:25:44.260 just a regular guy.
00:25:45.340 He was a party official.
00:25:46.680 You know, he kind of worked his way.
00:25:47.880 He was a one-termer in the House of Representatives.
00:25:50.560 But he rose to the occasion.
00:25:52.800 And one of his enduring themes was, we are a self-governing constitutional republic.
00:25:59.440 And Lincoln's question was always, can we be self-governing?
00:26:05.020 Can we do it?
00:26:05.740 Can we continue to do that?
00:26:07.160 Because the authoritarians are at the gate.
00:26:09.740 They're already infiltrated, as you just identified.
00:26:11.720 All these elites, they want to control us.
00:26:14.080 We got a nice preview.
00:26:16.040 The silver lining in COVID is, you get to see what they're doing and what they're going
00:26:20.520 to do to us and how they want to control our lives.
00:26:22.980 And I think some people realize, wow, this is what it's like to not have freedom.
00:26:27.820 I had a more acute feeling about that, living in a communist country and knowing, you know,
00:26:34.260 the scariness of having police and having the police run state.
00:26:37.540 And we have, you know, the brilliance of our founders in creating a civilian command.
00:26:43.780 And, you know, obviously the founders knew that enlightened statesmen would not always
00:26:48.120 be at the helm, which is what we have right now.
00:26:50.440 We have a Joe Biden who's, you know, has always been a talentless, lying, unqualified person
00:26:58.120 to really be anything, who now we're finding out, we always presumed it, but now we have
00:27:02.420 more evidence that this guy is actually, this guy, Joe Biden, is actually, you know, in a
00:27:09.300 position where he could have used, and we think he probably used his position in government
00:27:14.520 to enrich himself and his family.
00:27:18.120 And here he is, you know, compromised by our greatest adversary, China, taking advantage
00:27:23.040 of some of the corruption that occurred in Ukraine.
00:27:25.620 And we're in this point where, I mean, can we be self-governing with someone like this
00:27:29.900 at the top?
00:27:30.680 And why is Joe Biden our president?
00:27:32.960 For a couple of reasons.
00:27:34.060 Number one, the Democrats did not want to have Bernie Sanders as the standard bearer for
00:27:39.740 their party because he was leading in the polls in the run-up to the election of 2020.
00:27:44.760 He's not even a registered Democrat.
00:27:46.600 He's a self-proclaimed communist.
00:27:48.380 He is now the head of the Budget Committee.
00:27:50.720 The most important legislature in the world is run by a communist.
00:27:55.500 And now we see sort of the pieces coming together.
00:27:58.040 This is who we've got running our government.
00:28:00.240 And then you've got a guy like Bernie Sanders there, and you've got the Democrats all of a
00:28:03.740 sudden scrambling, getting Amy Klobuchar to step out, Pete Buttigieg.
00:28:08.200 Everybody got out all of a sudden in one day.
00:28:10.720 And then this propped up version of old Joe, regular old Joe gets put in, a media creation
00:28:18.200 gets in there because they can't have somebody that's a known communist running on their party
00:28:23.360 line.
00:28:23.800 But they're still operating behind the scenes.
00:28:26.260 And Joe is literally a puppet, as you described earlier.
00:28:29.180 Joe Biden is the perfect puppet.
00:28:32.140 He is also a greedy puppet, and of course, has corruption all around him, and most of
00:28:41.540 it of his design or his son, Hunter, or his brother, James' design.
00:28:48.100 There's no question that the laptop is for real.
00:28:50.820 Even the New York Times and the Washington Post, it took the Post 500 days.
00:28:55.460 But they finally acknowledged that they were at least silent actors in an effort to deny
00:29:05.220 the American people their right to know about a presidential candidate.
00:29:10.620 And you know what else stuns me?
00:29:12.660 It is Bill Barr, who President Trump has called a weak man, but never weaker than in the moment
00:29:19.420 in which he acknowledged in his book, that he knew that Biden was lying when he said what he did
00:29:28.720 about the laptop itself.
00:29:30.380 And he knew, in all likelihood, since he knew that, that 50 veterans of the CIA and our intelligence
00:29:39.180 community and five former directors of the CIA were lying when they said it was Russian
00:29:46.000 disinformation.
00:29:46.660 This has been for, since at least 2015, when Donald Trump entered the race, till this very
00:29:55.580 moment, this has been a disinformation effort.
00:30:01.240 It has been a plot to overthrow a president, to take control of a country that probably has
00:30:08.920 called itself a constitutional republic, the world's greatest democracy.
00:30:12.900 Well, there isn't anything democratic about it, as 2020 demonstrated, because as this new
00:30:19.900 documentary, Rigged, points out, that election was rigged long before election day.
00:30:28.360 And it was rigged by the Democrats who outsmarted the Republicans, to your point.
00:30:33.300 And the Republicans are not only gutless, and I'm talking about the rhinos, they're gutless,
00:30:39.640 but they're also not very damn bright.
00:30:43.400 Yeah, this is unbelievable.
00:30:46.300 Of course, I lived this.
00:30:48.380 My election, I was up 28,422 votes.
00:30:52.940 And we had to fight tooth and nail for almost 100 days directly with Mark Elias, who I hope
00:30:59.160 sees justice someday.
00:31:00.800 It's starting, the walls are starting to cave in on him.
00:31:02.980 But he's the mastermind behind a lot of this.
00:31:05.940 And they were able to take, as the movie points out, and I recommend the movie Rigged to everyone.
00:31:11.020 And it's kind of a corollary, I don't know what the connection is with Molly Hemingway's
00:31:14.260 book, Rigged, but, you know, same title.
00:31:16.380 But it's an amazing situation that happened.
00:31:21.020 And this is what's so frustrating for people who, you know, know that something went wrong.
00:31:26.220 And this is why they're so clever, and why I could see what was happening in my race.
00:31:31.660 And I'll tell you, Governor Cuomo used the pandemic as an excuse to create an online database.
00:31:37.820 And that online database had no verification process.
00:31:41.800 So they could basically scour the roles in New York State and get voters out.
00:31:47.540 And they were solicited by these outside groups.
00:31:51.540 And the Center for Tech and Civic Life was this not-for-profit, you know, created by Mark
00:31:57.700 Zuckerberg and Tina Epps, who was the one who ran the Obama administration.
00:32:03.040 Very smart woman.
00:32:04.300 And they knew exactly what they were doing.
00:32:06.120 They were able to take that money through a nonprofit, provide these grants to key election
00:32:12.840 areas in key swing states.
00:32:14.620 They knew they weren't going to win, you know, certain states.
00:32:17.540 But they knew that Georgia and Wisconsin and Pennsylvania and Arizona, they knew these are
00:32:23.520 critical areas in Georgia.
00:32:24.960 Fortune was spent in Georgia because they knew that was going to be a tough race.
00:32:28.520 The money was run through this not-for-profit.
00:32:30.780 It was laundered through, basically is a better way of putting it, a 501c3.
00:32:35.520 And that money went to, 99% of it went to electioneering or vote harvesting, as I call it, not
00:32:42.740 to PPE, which is what they said it was for, and they were able to prime the pump and get
00:32:48.760 that money out and make sure that they squeaked Joe Biden over the finish line.
00:32:53.000 So if you look at these key swing states, this election came down to 42,000 votes.
00:32:59.520 Out of 330 million people, it came down to 42,000 votes.
00:33:03.580 And they were able to squeak him across the finish line using this, which looks unethical.
00:33:09.840 The question that President Trump and that all of us are, the problem we have is technically
00:33:15.700 it isn't what you would call fraud under the legal definition that a judge could weigh in
00:33:20.940 on.
00:33:21.340 So it's wrong.
00:33:23.300 It shouldn't have been allowed.
00:33:24.800 The IRS should not have allowed it.
00:33:26.740 But it happened, and we were too late, and the judges dismissed these cases.
00:33:31.320 And a lot of people were very upset about it, including me.
00:33:34.320 But it really wasn't, and judges tend to be risk-averse, and they tend to, you know, look
00:33:39.120 for a precedent to bail out on, generally.
00:33:41.520 There's not that many brave souls out there.
00:33:43.500 There's some.
00:33:44.620 But, you know, so we ended up having this situation where the Democrats created this
00:33:48.700 narrative of there was no widespread fraud.
00:33:50.780 And I even heard Bill Barr say no widespread fraud.
00:33:53.740 But there was gross irregularity and gross manipulation of the system, which is what they
00:33:58.740 did using this $400 million from a basically Mark Zuckerberg, a big tech oligarch in the United
00:34:05.200 States, to try to make sure that Joe Biden won.
00:34:09.040 In addition, I think one of the other things that you just mentioned, those 51 intelligence
00:34:14.140 officers who signed a letter putting out false information, knowing that that laptop was
00:34:21.600 legitimate and it wasn't Russian disinformation, those people should all seek justice as well.
00:34:27.020 This is the kind of stuff that, and why Bill Barr let this thing go?
00:34:30.400 He had time.
00:34:31.580 We knew from December and January that this was happening.
00:34:34.740 Now, I demanded the 990s of the Center for Tech and Civil Life or Civic Life that they
00:34:40.440 disclose where this money was spent.
00:34:42.080 Well, I didn't get it until December of last year, a full year after the election was over.
00:34:48.760 And so it's frustrating because, like, for me, I was able to squeak out and win by 109
00:34:54.980 votes after being up 28,000.
00:34:56.760 And I'll tell you what they did in my race, which a lot of people don't realize.
00:35:00.280 Not only were we registering voters in January, registering, talking about new registrations
00:35:06.880 of voters in January, those votes were counted in January of 2021 for an election that occurred
00:35:13.820 in November 2020.
00:35:16.140 And thankfully, we were able to squeak across the finish line and still win that.
00:35:19.840 That's what the kind of stuff that they get away with.
00:35:22.400 Those are the laws we need to pass to make it illegal.
00:35:24.700 And it's almost impossible to do that in states where, like New York, where the Democrats are
00:35:30.220 going to make it impossible for us to manage these elections, which is why I put in the
00:35:34.540 N-Zuckerbox Act, which would, on the federal level, make sure that no not-for-profit or any
00:35:41.200 kind of organization like the Center for Tech and Civic Life that was Mark Zuckerberg's laundering
00:35:46.160 scheme could be used to manipulate our elections.
00:35:49.860 It would be an interference with elections and an interference with the state's ability to
00:35:53.320 to administer elections.
00:35:55.280 So you are a warrior, if you will, in the trenches right now, running against big money, both
00:36:03.080 the Democratic Party and the RINOs who want to destroy you.
00:36:06.980 Oh, I, you know, a lot of the, right now I don't, I've actually beat back a lot of the
00:36:12.980 Republicans who've tried to take me out.
00:36:14.520 I think we've, I don't know, we've kind of scared away about 13 or 14 people already this
00:36:20.440 cycle.
00:36:20.820 I still have one more that I may end up in a small primary with.
00:36:24.740 But in the past, I'd never been endorsed by the Republican Party.
00:36:28.080 And I was not endorsed when I won in 2016.
00:36:30.800 There was a three-way race that I was actually able to win with the least amount of resources.
00:36:35.680 But we had a really strong grassroots effort and we worked hard to tell the truth.
00:36:40.780 I was talking about fair trade, not necessarily free trade.
00:36:45.180 We were talking about the loss of American jobs and our ability to manufacture.
00:36:49.160 A lot of those things that were not actually, they were not actually things that were something
00:36:55.520 that Heritage and other, you know, conservative groups liked.
00:36:58.700 But I was in a community where I could say, you know, IBM, we have everybody and they're gone.
00:37:03.660 Where is everyone?
00:37:04.760 You know, Oneida Limited was founded in my district.
00:37:06.860 Everybody worked at Oneida.
00:37:08.360 Oneida went bankrupt and they took off.
00:37:10.780 So I started this Made in America thing in my first term in the Assembly in 2010.
00:37:15.300 And I had to beat the Republican County Chairman.
00:37:17.540 And I had never been endorsed again by my home county and not for Congress in 2016 either.
00:37:24.040 And then I finally won.
00:37:25.320 And then, of course, they, you know, found a way to redistrict me and they beat me back
00:37:29.560 in 2018 and I won again in 2020, you know, with the after, you know, with the onslaught
00:37:34.440 of Zuckerberg.
00:37:35.260 So it's been a struggle.
00:37:36.520 But, you know, my feeling is I kind of have this newspaper truth thing in my heart.
00:37:40.860 I like transparency.
00:37:41.760 I like truth.
00:37:43.200 And I want the citizens to know that they are the government.
00:37:47.280 It is not.
00:37:48.000 We are self-governing.
00:37:49.040 And it's so important that people understand that you've got to get involved in government.
00:37:53.020 You have to be part of this process or we're going to lose our self-governance.
00:37:56.860 Well, I think, you know, I applaud you in all respects.
00:38:03.020 I think I heard you say you were Trump before Trump.
00:38:06.460 Well, it's funny you say that because one day I was talking about all these issues and
00:38:14.020 Trump decided, you know, Trump was in the running.
00:38:16.600 And I was on a radio show and one of the radio hosts said, well, basically, you're like
00:38:20.340 Trump before Trump.
00:38:21.140 And I said, well, I mean, I was doing these things.
00:38:23.240 I could see these things.
00:38:24.380 I wasn't the first one.
00:38:25.240 Well, so what did the Democrats do?
00:38:26.520 They turned this into this, you know, negative.
00:38:29.580 She, you know, she's obnoxious and a bully like Trump and everything else.
00:38:33.680 They took all the worst of Trump and tried to apply it.
00:38:36.320 But it was the policies.
00:38:38.000 And that's why when Trump came along, it was like a eureka, hallelujah moment for upstate
00:38:42.880 New York.
00:38:43.440 He was very popular, very well received and still is.
00:38:46.300 You can drive around upstate New York and and see Trump signs still Trump 2024 make voting
00:38:52.360 great again, all kinds of I mean, he's still very popular.
00:38:54.840 And a lot of people, you know, look at President Trump and they, you know, sometimes they say
00:38:59.120 he made some unforced errors.
00:39:00.700 You know, sometimes he might make cringeworthy statements.
00:39:03.420 Sometimes he's a little rough and a little, you know, maybe a little crude for for people.
00:39:07.600 But, you know, you're from New York.
00:39:08.800 We're from, you know, he's from Queens.
00:39:10.600 But what people care about in the end is someone that makes promises and keeps them and somebody
00:39:16.420 that stands for all these forgotten people all across our country and especially in upstate
00:39:22.000 New York who very much reflect that.
00:39:24.460 And I think people will forgive Trump for some of the, you know, maybe the unforced errors
00:39:28.620 he makes because he is not one of the insiders.
00:39:31.540 He's not one of the elite.
00:39:33.040 He's brave.
00:39:34.180 He's not risk averse, which so many politicians are.
00:39:37.800 And you talked about our woke military.
00:39:39.980 A lot of our military is risk averse as well.
00:39:42.300 We need to be more courageous and find that strength and resolve that the patriots have
00:39:49.600 who were able to leave the British and fight them off, you know, totally under, you know,
00:39:55.500 overwhelmed.
00:39:56.180 And still we were somehow able to save this country.
00:39:58.440 Yeah, we're trying to save the country.
00:40:01.060 And we've got, in many cases, we're surrounded by weaklings or we're surrounded by venal evil
00:40:10.620 characters.
00:40:13.300 And you've mentioned a couple of names.
00:40:15.840 But we have to be able to have some trust in our government.
00:40:22.220 And we can't do that.
00:40:24.380 We can't even trust our government.
00:40:25.780 And I'm going to ask you this question because it's really, I think, important for the audience
00:40:31.260 because you're very bright.
00:40:34.200 You're a terrific representative of your district and the American people.
00:40:38.980 I wonder how much the Republican Party has said to you in your own counties, your own district,
00:40:47.100 from your state organization, we've got this election nailed this time.
00:40:52.220 There's not going to be any of this nonsense with mail-in ballots.
00:40:56.120 There's not going to be any ballot harvesting or ballot trafficking, as some put it.
00:41:02.860 And I think that's a great expression as well.
00:41:06.060 Because this fraud, I think there's great fraud all the way around.
00:41:10.060 Because we saw in Pennsylvania, a classic case of a Republican Party, a Republican Party-led
00:41:19.500 legislature.
00:41:21.660 A state legislature that added the authority over the election ran from it.
00:41:26.280 The state Supreme Court in Pennsylvania ran from that rigged election.
00:41:31.920 And there were just so many issues it could have been focused on.
00:41:34.920 But in your district, in your experience right now, has the Republican Party worked, I mean,
00:41:41.180 at warp speed and with great velocity to fix the electoral system in your district?
00:41:50.100 Well, thank you for the great compliments.
00:41:51.640 But in some cases, yes.
00:41:53.800 In many cases, no.
00:41:55.200 My biggest concern is I started the Election Integrity Caucus.
00:41:59.020 I did that because I realized what was happening.
00:42:02.000 I was uniquely in a position where I saw what they were doing.
00:42:08.000 And I saw what was legal.
00:42:09.540 Some was fraud.
00:42:10.440 Some was not.
00:42:11.660 And I saw a lot of conflagration, a lot of people conflating what was really happening.
00:42:17.860 And trying to bring some simple reality to this.
00:42:21.260 But it's interesting.
00:42:22.500 A lot of people, especially the rhino types, and some people in leadership, will say,
00:42:29.700 oh, you know, I'm like, why don't you join my Election Integrity Caucus?
00:42:33.700 I have over 60 members of the caucus.
00:42:35.540 One of the first ones to join was Ronnie Jackson, great American.
00:42:39.260 We, people who know how hard this is and how much we have to fight tooth and nail.
00:42:44.640 And a lot of people say, well, you know, I don't really feel like we need to deal with
00:42:48.200 this issue.
00:42:48.580 It's not polling near the top.
00:42:49.900 And I was like, it is polling near the top or the top all over the country with the base,
00:42:56.480 with everyone.
00:42:57.440 And if it's not polling at the top, that means you're not messaging correctly.
00:43:01.160 You're allowing the Democrats to message you away from what they're trying to do.
00:43:05.740 The Democrat misinformation campaign is out there.
00:43:08.740 And we can't just sit there and say, let's not talk about it because we don't, we, then
00:43:13.800 it'll go away.
00:43:14.620 They don't, they want it to go away.
00:43:16.540 They want us to back down and not fight on this.
00:43:19.360 And that's why, you know, keep bringing up Hillary Clinton claiming her election, her
00:43:23.620 election wasn't won.
00:43:24.820 Keep bringing up the fact that Stacey Abrams claimed that she never lost and now she's
00:43:29.020 running for re-election.
00:43:30.300 Let me tell you the latest statistics coming from Scott Rasmussen.
00:43:33.820 84% of all voters of all ages and demographics and all parties, all 84% support photo ID to vote.
00:43:44.740 Stacey Abrams suddenly is for photo ID.
00:43:48.340 These are issues.
00:43:49.480 We can find those 80, 20 issues and make sure they don't cheat again and they don't commit
00:43:55.160 partial fraud and impartial fraud.
00:43:57.420 And I have people say to me, you know, just honestly, there was a lot of earnest people
00:44:01.020 out there who tried to do a lot, but they're like, look, we don't want to get into this
00:44:04.200 election integrity issue.
00:44:05.220 You know, it's, it's all, it's just your race or it's just New York.
00:44:08.080 They, I was on a call with an election integrity group out of South Dakota in South Dakota.
00:44:13.980 One of the election commissioners discovered that there was a trailer and I won't name
00:44:18.620 the name of the town because I can't remember it, but I can find it.
00:44:21.780 There was a trailer in a small, you know, mobile home that had 1400 people registered there.
00:44:28.240 And those 1400 so-called people voted in the election.
00:44:32.440 This is not confined to New York city or New York state or just the blue states.
00:44:38.400 This is happening everywhere.
00:44:39.880 And by the way, we've had election issues throughout our, our country's founding.
00:44:43.740 The reason we have good laws and laws in place is there's a couple of things people need to
00:44:47.820 know about elections.
00:44:48.560 Number one, you have to have free elections.
00:44:51.000 They have to be fair, but you also have to make sure the reason we have so many of these
00:44:54.920 laws in place is because our right to vote, not only is it sacred, it's private.
00:45:01.340 The government cannot know how we voted.
00:45:04.920 And that's why we go through so many steps to make sure that our identity is concealed.
00:45:10.420 All the things, the slipshod stuff, the Democrats did last year.
00:45:14.600 And with all these voting, they completely undermine the identities of these people out there who
00:45:19.780 wanted to vote.
00:45:20.840 And that's why you don't get one citizen, one vote.
00:45:23.600 That's why you get non, you know, illegal immigrants or non-citizens voting.
00:45:28.020 You get multiple people voting, you know, one person voting multiple times because they're
00:45:33.880 undermining our right to vote.
00:45:35.720 And that's why it's so important that that's why these rules are in place.
00:45:38.660 It's not about the Republicans suppressing the vote.
00:45:41.480 And we need to fight back on that.
00:45:43.140 But I do think you're right, though.
00:45:44.360 A lot of the sort of weak-willed Republicans, the people, they don't want to bring up it,
00:45:48.540 bring it up because, oh my God, some Democrats are going to bring up January 6th and call
00:45:52.680 me an insurrectionist and call me a seditionist, but nobody's going after Maxine Waters or Pramila
00:45:59.360 Jayapal.
00:46:00.420 They all objected to the election when Republicans were elected.
00:46:04.200 They didn't, they're not called insurrectionists or people trying to undermine the integrity
00:46:08.360 of the election.
00:46:09.320 They're not being called out by Liz Cheney and others and Adam Kinzinger about the fact
00:46:15.060 that, you know, we've had a lot of problems in elections and 90% of them are because of Democrats.
00:46:19.880 And we're always over hyper-focused on the one or two times you find a Republican doing
00:46:24.420 something.
00:46:25.160 That's my biggest concern is that people are afraid to talk about it.
00:46:28.860 That's why the election integrity caucus, we look into these issues.
00:46:32.280 We analyze them every week.
00:46:34.040 Last week, we had Hogan Gidley, Scott Rasmussen, Ken Blackwell on our show.
00:46:38.960 We've had people from all across the country on the show.
00:46:42.320 We've had Molly Hemingway, you know, really interesting.
00:46:45.260 We had Secretary of State Gardner from New Hampshire.
00:46:48.160 Interesting with him.
00:46:49.240 Did you know that he is, he just retired, he's been the, he was the Secretary of State
00:46:54.900 since 1976, he's a Democrat, totally opposed to early voting, totally opposed to late absentee
00:47:02.140 voting and all that, that in New Hampshire, they'd announce under their constitution, they
00:47:08.140 must announce the winner of the election on election night, although they're trying to
00:47:13.060 change that law.
00:47:13.800 But when he was Secretary of State, he joined our caucus and agreed with us.
00:47:18.400 He agrees with getting rid of H.R. 1 and H.R. 4.
00:47:21.460 So there are Democrats out there who understand how important election integrity is.
00:47:25.700 I suspect that even Mark Elias understands it.
00:47:29.760 It's what they do about it that gets interesting.
00:47:32.500 As Stalin said, you know, he doesn't care who votes, so long as he is the one doing the counting.
00:47:40.240 And we saw a great example of it in 2020.
00:47:43.800 A rigged election, in my opinion, a disgrace to the nation.
00:47:48.740 And I'm afraid that the Republicans bear almost as much responsibility as the Democrats for
00:47:56.080 what they permitted to happen in 2020.
00:47:59.500 I want to say, I want to close here with a discussion just briefly on the Hunter Biden
00:48:07.940 laptop and how it reached to the news organizations.
00:48:12.440 You've been in, you've had editorial businesses and you know how it works, a newspaper.
00:48:22.280 The entire industry right now seems like the most corrupt institution imaginable that is
00:48:30.060 supposed to be a watchdog, is supposed to have the highest and noblest of values and standards.
00:48:36.460 They are nothing more than disinformation outlets, propaganda units of a corporation
00:48:44.000 doing what the masters in the boardroom and the CEO's office say do,
00:48:48.800 whether it's Disney telling ABC News how it goes, or whether it's Comcast telling,
00:48:55.160 excuse me, NBC News.
00:49:00.340 Now, I'm not quite sure how it's going to work at Discover, Warner Brothers, and CNN.
00:49:05.600 But it's, it's disgusting.
00:49:08.360 Your thoughts on, on Hunter Biden's laptop and the fact that none of the media, with the
00:49:14.200 exception of in, in primary colors, the New York Post had the guts to bring that story to
00:49:21.820 the forefront.
00:49:23.220 Yeah.
00:49:23.460 Kudos to Miranda Devine for really digging in and putting that out and just disgusting that
00:49:29.680 they were that at a key point in an election that Twitter and other social media outlets
00:49:34.560 would, you know, cut that off and also use the, you know, the, the excuse of those so-called
00:49:39.740 51 former intelligence agents who were blatantly lying.
00:49:42.940 And President Biden, when he was president, when he was a candidate, was saying all this stuff.
00:49:48.840 You know, he was going on about how it was Russian disinformation.
00:49:51.920 I'm not even sure he knows what he really knew what he was saying, but he was reading lines off of a
00:49:55.800 teleprompter to the best that he could.
00:49:58.120 So, you know, my biggest concern is that right now I think that the glimmer of hope here is that
00:50:05.840 why after 14 months when this, on this laptop was unearthed to the New York times suddenly decide,
00:50:13.660 I think we got to cover this.
00:50:14.980 Then they legitimize it.
00:50:16.060 Then the Washington post does.
00:50:17.540 What do you think is happening?
00:50:18.820 I just saw some numbers today.
00:50:21.000 The Biden administration is 70% of the American people now pulled, that's just a record number,
00:50:26.640 disapprove of their handling, of his handling of the economy.
00:50:29.500 I don't know why it's not 90%, but whatever, 70% is the record number.
00:50:34.180 Why do you think that all of a sudden they're coming out?
00:50:36.220 I think they realize that this guy is a drag on their party, on the, on their side,
00:50:40.960 and they need to figure out a way to get rid of him and they need to distance themselves.
00:50:44.920 So you don't see Democrat candidates running to get the endorsement of Joe Biden.
00:50:50.960 I mean, nobody's trying to get in there.
00:50:52.800 And I think they're trying to figure out a way to, because I don't think that they're
00:50:56.500 well-intentioned.
00:50:57.360 I, I, I mean, I wish they were, uh, maybe they feel, maybe there's a glimmer of, we got
00:51:02.060 to deal with this issue somehow, but I do feel like they are calculating that there's some
00:51:06.980 way that they've got to manipulate this because they, they've got to figure out a way to move
00:51:12.100 Joe out and figure out what they're going to do next and how they're going to like change
00:51:16.220 the situation.
00:51:17.460 And I really do.
00:51:18.980 I hate to be so cynical about it, but that's my concern is that we are, if it weren't for
00:51:24.140 the New York post and the, and the fact that we have some freedom, uh, through social media
00:51:29.520 and other areas, which were, you know, that's where they, they realized that social media
00:51:32.980 was out of their control.
00:51:34.480 So the big tech, all the, you know, the big tech oligarchs got the signal, you know, from
00:51:39.320 a lot of the networks and they were able to shut us, you know, shut a lot of people
00:51:42.120 down, which is censorship.
00:51:43.620 But I do think that maybe the New York times and others were, you know, are revealing something
00:51:48.040 else in their plan, but I don't think they're ever going to really, you know, be on our side
00:51:52.680 or really care about truth and transparency.
00:51:54.960 I, they never have.
00:51:56.420 No, and they're not going to change.
00:51:58.680 The opportunity, if we can crack down on big tech and the American people can find people
00:52:03.380 like you and people like others who are, have nothing in the, in the game other than
00:52:07.680 to save America, you know, that's how I view myself.
00:52:09.980 I mean, what am I getting from this?
00:52:11.000 I could make a lot more money, not doing this.
00:52:13.040 The retirement isn't anything worth, I'm not even, I'm not even eligible for retirement,
00:52:16.780 but I care so much about this country.
00:52:18.840 You know, I, my grandparents came in as immigrants and that's why I think we need to continue to
00:52:24.020 fight as patriots, be happy warriors.
00:52:26.520 A lot of people want to be just give up and throw in the towel and say, everybody in Congress
00:52:30.860 should be removed.
00:52:31.760 That's not true.
00:52:32.480 There's a lot of really good members.
00:52:33.780 Let's just keep getting people on message, keeping, keeping them on the task and not
00:52:39.140 being afraid to stand up and have a voice.
00:52:42.740 And then they're, you know, that they need to stand up for truth.
00:52:45.260 Now, I mean, look at, I explain every single vote I take in Congress, because I know that
00:52:49.620 all these ridiculous bills are named in such a, you know, the Democrats have great, Democrats
00:52:55.540 have great names and they always run these ad campaigns.
00:52:58.460 Claudia Tenney voted against, you know, this.
00:53:00.440 Well, I, I explain every vote, why I voted no on something, what the bill's really about.
00:53:05.800 It's on, it's, it's, you can get it on my website, on my official website.
00:53:09.820 You can go to Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, everywhere we put out, we put a lot of time
00:53:15.240 into our bills.
00:53:15.900 We do transparency and everywhere I can, I try to at least do an op-ed, a press release,
00:53:21.580 or get as much information to the public as I can about what's happening in Washington,
00:53:26.620 what they need to be advised on, what they need to know the truth, and what they need
00:53:32.080 to know about making a decision as a citizen who is responsible and has a responsibility
00:53:38.240 to be knowledgeable about being part of our self-governing country.
00:53:42.980 And that's what so many people don't understand, the concept of self-governance.
00:53:46.660 And so I try to, when I meet students, you know, I try to give them examples of what it's
00:53:50.420 like if you don't have the ability to decide what happens.
00:53:53.260 And I do think a lot of the good things are happening, though, I'll tell you a real positive,
00:53:57.220 I think, and I'll close on that, is that I think people are waking up at the school board
00:54:02.660 level.
00:54:03.140 They're starting to see what happens when they just leave it to chance of what's happening
00:54:08.840 with their children, and they found out what's going on.
00:54:12.220 And I think the parents are getting very involved in school boards.
00:54:15.860 You see people who are standing up and winning these races.
00:54:18.620 You see a miracle like Glenn Youngkin running on the school issue, winning a blue state now
00:54:24.080 like Virginia.
00:54:25.220 And I think this is where people need to understand at the very, very grassroots level, self-governance
00:54:31.100 is the way that we're going to cure this.
00:54:34.040 But in order to be self-governing, in order to understand civics, you need to know what our
00:54:38.960 government stands for.
00:54:40.360 And so many people don't.
00:54:42.200 Yeah.
00:54:42.640 I think all of that is true.
00:54:44.560 And I want to say to you how much I've enjoyed our discussion today.
00:54:49.080 And I want to also let you know that this podcast, we're sort of straightforward.
00:54:56.660 It's all about truth, justice, and the American way.
00:54:59.640 It's no more complex than that.
00:55:01.840 And the reality is exactly what you just said.
00:55:05.680 And I say on this podcast almost every day that the place where you have the greatest influence
00:55:11.880 with your vote, with your presence, your citizenship is in your community, and be sure that you're
00:55:17.840 engaged.
00:55:18.400 It's a participatory democracy, and Republicans have neglected to fulfill their responsibilities.
00:55:25.520 It's time we do so, and it's time we do so with great energy and diligence.
00:55:30.080 And Claudia Tenney, Congresswoman from New York, you're a great example for all of us, a great
00:55:38.120 American.
00:55:38.540 And we thank you for being with us here.
00:55:40.320 Our convention is, we always leave this broadcast with our guests, and the last word.
00:55:46.700 You get the last word.
00:55:48.680 Well, thank you so much.
00:55:49.720 It's a tremendous honor to be on with the great Lou Dobbs, and really great to talk with
00:55:54.000 you about how important it is to save this country.
00:55:56.020 And just how grateful I am to you for standing up and continuing to do this when I know you
00:56:01.520 could be enjoying all your time on your horse farm and having a wonderful time.
00:56:05.600 But it's so important that everyone participates, and everyone is willing to learn and willing
00:56:11.160 to understand how important, how we need to take this country back.
00:56:14.840 And so it's great that you're out there, and I really appreciate the opportunity to talk
00:56:19.220 about what I've been up to.
00:56:20.360 And anyone can find out more, you can go to Claudia at ClaudiaForCongress.com.
00:56:25.600 Or if you want to know about votes, I explain every vote, tenny.house.gov.
00:56:30.980 So every representative votes on all the same bills.
00:56:33.580 So if you want to go see how I voted, you can compare that to your representative and
00:56:37.520 see if they're explaining their votes.
00:56:39.160 But I really am grateful for the opportunity to speak with you in just sort of a free-form
00:56:42.560 discussion.
00:56:43.880 It was really enjoyable for me, and I hope the audience will appreciate it.
00:56:47.780 I'm sure they do.
00:56:48.520 And we look forward to our next conversation, Congresswoman Tenny.
00:56:54.480 And again, a great American, and God bless you.
00:56:58.680 Congresswoman Claudia Tenny.
00:57:00.800 Our guest tomorrow is the man whose life was changed forever when Hunter Biden walked into
00:57:05.480 his computer shop and asked him to repair and recover the contents of his laptop.
00:57:11.000 Actually, three laptops.
00:57:13.800 Our guest is John Paul McIsaac, who will be with us to tell the incredible tale about the
00:57:20.800 contents of his laptop, his efforts to alert and engage law enforcement agencies, national
00:57:26.560 security agencies.
00:57:28.200 He tried to talk to members of Congress, attorneys, and some in the national media.
00:57:34.100 This is an amazing story that you do not want to miss.
00:57:37.380 As big tech, social media, and the federal government in the fall of 2020 brought down
00:57:43.640 a curtain of darkness, deceit, and isolation that kept the American people from learning
00:57:50.020 the truth about the laptop from hell, as President Trump once called it.
00:57:55.340 Please join us here tomorrow for John Paul McIsaac.
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