Amy Poehler joins Jemele to talk about why men are the only ones who can do what they do, and why they should be locked up. She also talks about why women should like you for who you are on the inside, not for what you look like on the outside. And why women shouldn t care about what other people think about them because they don't care about other people's opinions about them. Plus, why women are better than men at sex and why men should care more about women who are attractive than those who are not attractive. And how women should be treated in the workplace and in relationships, and how they should treat men in general. And why a guy who is sleeping in grandma s basement is not going to want to have sex with a girl who is playing Atari or whatever I'm a girl playing Atari. 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 5, 0, 2 5:00 - Why women don t care what other women think about you 8:30 - Why men are better at sex 9:00- Why women should not care about their appearance 11:30- Why men should be more attractive than women 13:00 16:20 - How women should care about how they look 16:15 - What women should do in a relationship 17:20- How women are appreciated by other people 18:40 - Women should like what they can do 22:30 21:15 22: How women can do better than other people 22:00: Why women are more attractive? 23: What are you going to do better in a dating life? 24:00 | How do you know what you should do? 25:00 + 27: What do you like about yourself? 26:00 Is a woman better than a man who s better than you? 27:00 & 27:10 28:30 | How to be a woman who can have a guy you can be a good woman? 29:00 // 32:00 Can you be a better woman than a woman you can do more than a girl you like? 35:00 Do you like a guy with a guy that s a girl that s good in a woman that can do a girl like that? 32: Is she a girl with a man you like you more than you can t have a girl she s a guy like a woman like a girl in a game she s not a girl?
00:00:20.000I mean, these things that happen that sort of just change the whole world, you gotta think that's probably one of the reasons why these psychos do it in the first place, right?
00:00:31.000It becomes their big fireworks 4th of July grand finale before they leave.
00:00:38.000Yeah, there was a very interesting post by a guy named Robert King on Psychology Today, and I guess he's doing research in this, and he talked about it as a way for men to get or chase status, and that he saw two bumps.
00:00:54.000I think one was at 23 and one at 41 in terms of the ages that people do this, and it does tend to be men.
00:01:11.000Yeah, well, to prevent it, you have to lock all men up.
00:01:44.000But it's very weird that it's entirely men who do mass shootings and drive trucks into crowds and that kind of thing.
00:01:53.000Well, I think we may start seeing women do that.
00:01:55.000But actually, I don't think it's weird that it's men because men, if you look at how men and women evolved to get partners, women just have to look hot.
00:02:05.000You have to look like you're fertile and young and have good genes.
00:02:11.000These what feminists say are arbitrary standards of beauty aren't anything like that.
00:02:15.000They're very across cultures, men like women with this hourglass figure, and who have long shiny hair and who are not 72. Because if you had sex with a 72 year old, your genes died out.
00:02:29.000Yeah, the feminist thing about arbitrary standards of beauty, as a person who is deeply entrenched in science, that's got to be frustrating, right?
00:02:38.000Because you're looking at something that's not accurate.
00:02:41.000You're pushing a narrative that's just not accurate.
00:02:45.000Take away culture, take away all your personal feelings about human beings, and you look at the mammal, the human mammal, and it's very clear why certain males are gravitating towards certain females and, conversely,
00:03:02.000why certain females are gravitating towards certain males.
00:03:15.000If you look at porn, it's not the woman who buys a homeless man a sandwich, you know, who's in the porn.
00:03:20.000It's the woman with those features that are just cross-culturally appreciated by men.
00:03:26.000Well, it's also, too, we're talking only about sexual, right?
00:03:30.000Because people do like you for who you are on the inside.
00:03:32.000Like Melissa McCarthy is a perfect example.
00:03:34.000She's this vibrant, hilarious woman, and no one's holding her up as the standard of beauty or sexual attractiveness.
00:03:44.000You know, you're looking at her as this fun person, and that's why millions of people go see her in movies, and her TV show is this giant hit.
00:03:51.000I mean, it's literally what's on the inside and how she carries herself.
00:04:30.000I'm a girl, so I don't know anything about football or video games.
00:04:33.000My boyfriend tried to educate me on the way over about some, I don't know, some guy who said something insulting to a female sports announcer.
00:04:42.000Cam Newton, a pretty popular quarterback, said he got a question from a beat reporter that works for his team and asked him something about a wide receiver's route running.
00:04:52.000He said it's surprising that a girl is asking about route running or something like that.
00:04:56.000He got a lot of shit about it right now.
00:06:09.000There's accelerating social evolution that's going on right now and along the way you're getting a lot of bumps and a lot of weird stuff that's happening a lot of social justice warrior stuff and then you got a lot of alt-right stuff on the other side and they're battling it out with each other and it's almost like these intense extremes on this new landscape and people are jockeying for positioning on this new cultural standard playing field.
00:06:36.000Well, I think what's happened is that now everyone has a microphone.
00:07:01.000And so I think that that's a big part of it.
00:07:25.000Well, first of all, With quarterbacks and with any football players, you're dealing with head trauma.
00:07:31.000You are 100% dealing with head trauma.
00:07:34.000There is an extremely high likelihood that all those guys on the playing field have erratic behavior due to the fact their head's been smashed 150 fucking times a year since they were a kid.
00:08:46.000And this thing about it showing up much later where you get terribly mentally ill, people, they make those trade-offs where they think, okay, well, I can get money and fame this way and it's quick and everything like that.
00:08:57.000But they don't really realize what the long-term consequences will be.
00:09:01.000Well, I think a lot of people when they got into football and even people that got into fighting, they didn't know as much back then when they first entered this sort of journey.
00:09:17.000You know, I've been kind of on this OJ kick lately because I started watching that Cuba Gooding Jr. series where they sort of, you know, reenact.
00:09:25.000And it's really kind of freaking me out.
00:09:26.000It's bringing back The memories of the 90s and what it was like when that when that thing went down I was with my girlfriend at the time and we were sitting in front of the television holding hands and you know like waiting for the verdict and when When they said not guilty she threw her hands on her face like she had just seen a horrible car accident She's like,
00:09:52.000Oh my god and Now today, they're saying, the very doctor that was working with OJ said, if they were going to do that case again today, they would absolutely bring up CTE. Yeah, I think you're right about that.
00:10:43.000This was never in the public discourse.
00:10:45.000Yeah, and I suspect if you go back and look at those tapes sort of forensically that you'll see that kind of thing, the shaking.
00:10:51.000And also that if you take a look at over football players, how many people have these diseases and mental illness that's related to this head trauma situation?
00:11:57.000I mean, if you want to hold up the bloody head of some murderous dictator who's, you know, killed a bunch of people, then I kind of understand.
00:15:19.000And if you just deny that, you're just building up this weird wall of disconnect between you and reality, and you're going to make more and more shitty choices if you do that.
00:15:46.000It doesn't matter what your feelings are.
00:15:47.000Well, this is one of the main issues that I have today with this right versus left social justice warrior thing that's going on.
00:15:55.000It's like people are being so fucking aggressive and so rude.
00:16:00.000And so just the way they are trying to silence people from speaking, the way they are describing people and attacking people.
00:16:09.000It's a it's a very aggressive way and it's very short-sighted because when you have that sort of Short-sighted aggressive bit what you're doing is like you're yelling shut the fuck up Well when you yell shut the fuck up nobody wants to shut the fuck up, right?
00:16:23.000They don't just go okay like you're you're this is a childish way of approaching an issue like the the The more objective, nuanced, more thought-out way of approaching it is to take into consideration how this other person is going to view what you're saying.
00:16:40.000The only way to get people to change is to present them some sort of an argument or some sort of an idea that is both Polite and well thought out and and there's no Social issue involved in it like there's no Negative back and forth between you where you're trying to get them and they're trying to get you The only way to get someone to really take into consideration your ideas Is to have them in some way respect you
00:17:10.000or like you and as soon as you tell someone shut the fuck up like well, that's out Okay, well that's out.
00:17:16.000And now it's just like, you're just gonna win by having more people yell?
00:17:24.000You're just going to cause an action-reaction.
00:17:27.000You're just gonna cause this sort of rubber band effect where you pull it back and then it snaps, and then you've got some sort of ridiculous infighting where people go full tribal and they get one side, goes against the other side, and this is what you're seeing today.
00:17:41.000And you're seeing people do it to get attention as well.
00:17:44.000You're seeing people do it clearly when they know the cameras are on.
00:17:46.000They ramp it up and start, you know, yelling obscenities and being more ridiculous about it.
00:19:07.000They're so far away from listening, you might as well just crawl under the desk and go read a novel.
00:19:12.000It's just so pointless to even engage with them.
00:19:15.000And so the people who do want to engage, if you engage on a polite level, maybe, possibly, if someone is just not totally reeled in by confirmation bias, they might listen.
00:19:26.000And confirmation bias, of course, is that thing where we believe what we already believe, and then we throw away any disconfirming evidence.
00:19:33.000And so, you know, if you recognize these propensities we have to do that, to believe what we believe, to be tribal, to stick to this side, to not listen, to not change our views, then maybe you have a hope of changing your views.
00:19:46.000And maybe if you try to listen to other people who, you know, their differing views who are polite and trying to engage on a rational level, You can learn something.
00:20:29.000And you're trying to win an argument that very few people ever win.
00:20:33.000It's usually like both people walk away just disgusted with a loss.
00:20:37.000It's very rare that unless someone is egregiously incorrect and you literally have to shout them down because what they're doing is horrific and you need to point it out to them.
00:22:45.000He's just conservative, you know, and whether I agree or disagree, and I'm sure I disagree with him on a lot of things, I had a really pleasant time talking to him.
00:22:54.000His ideas and his The way he speaks is very well thought out.
00:23:01.000He speaks very quickly, and it's intimidating to a lot of people.
00:23:06.000His ideas, and the idea that he is this extremely articulate right-wing guy, immediately the best way to silence that is white supremacy, KKK. He's a Nazi.
00:23:19.000I've seen people call Ben Shapiro a Nazi.
00:23:28.000And that kind of thing, we see it on both sides.
00:23:31.000And there was something the other day.
00:23:32.000So Dana Loesch, she's a commentator, and she's apparently very pro-NRA. Mm-hmm.
00:23:38.000So people sent her just the ugliest tweets.
00:23:41.000And I'm sure I disagree with her on a number of things.
00:23:44.000I don't really look at her views, you know, extensively.
00:23:47.000But they were things like, you know, I hope you die in a hail of gunfire or something like that, along those lines outside the NRA headquarters.
00:25:06.000She's, you know, she's like a right-wing woman.
00:25:10.000I'm pretty sure she started her life, I think she was very left-wing at one point in time, and saw a lot of hypocrisy on the left and switched over to the right.
00:25:18.000But again, it's like we were talking about before.
00:25:57.000Well, when you go NRA, though, I mean, the thing is, like, if you're, like, a very outspoken NRA person, and she was famously involved in one of those really aggressive videos about the NRA. Did you see that video?
00:26:08.000It was, like, a sort of, like, it was really recently a very controversial video talking about gun ownership, and it was, like, a sort of pro-NRA video that was, like, widely criticized on the left.
00:26:23.000And I think the subject of gun ownership and just what happens in these mass tragedies, I mean, it is a conversation that stirs up tribalism, logic.
00:26:36.000It's a very complex, and also mental health issues.
00:26:41.000I mean, I want to know what was going on with this guy.
00:26:43.000I want to know if this Vegas guy, was he on...
00:27:03.000I mean, these disassociative psych meds that they put these people on that allow them to just deal with life in a way where they just don't feel, you know?
00:27:12.000I mean, have you ever been on psych meds?
00:27:39.000Even though it slows me down and I'm on the same dose, 7.5 milligrams, I'm the total lightweight of lightweights.
00:27:45.000So the Zoloft I took, because I went to a psychiatrist in New York and they actually tried to give me like lithium and all these other things, like for manic depressive people.
00:27:54.000My friend said, you're manic, but you're not depressive.
00:27:57.000And basically it was so crazy because all I was, it wasn't some kind of inexplicable, horrible depression.
00:28:03.000I didn't have a boyfriend, I didn't have any money and I was bummed.
00:28:07.000You know, like, and I took Zoloft, then I realized it just shaved off half my personality.
00:28:11.000So I did the really dumb thing you're not supposed to do, which is just I thought, like, fuck this shit, flushed it down the toilet, and then I, like, fell off a cliff emotionally.
00:29:44.000Everybody eventually moves to Arizona, all these professors.
00:29:47.000Anyway, so he talks about how depression, you know, the sad feelings, these are adaptive.
00:29:54.000And so when something bad happens to you, being sad causes you to slow down.
00:30:00.000You have the features of a sad person, which causes other people to gather around you and be empathetic.
00:30:06.000Now, if it goes on for too long, you may chase people away.
00:30:09.000But this allows you to think about what dumb fucking thing you did that made you get in the state.
00:30:15.000And I talk about how emotions are motivational tools.
00:30:18.000We think of them as sort of like wallpaper for our head to decorate our life, but they're not.
00:30:22.000Emotions, when you're happy, that says, do more of that.
00:30:24.000When you're depressed, stop doing that, reflect on it.
00:30:28.000And so there are different kinds of depression.
00:30:30.000There's a kind that is this medical depression that's inexplicable and that maybe drugs are needed for.
00:30:37.000But often, I think that doctors, psychiatrists, my experience was, and my experience listening to other people, because I write this advice column and I get letters from everybody, and I've been doing this for a long time, since the early 90s, is that doctors just say, here's a pill, And a lot of these antidepressants,
00:30:55.000they've been shown that they don't really work.
00:30:57.000And so maybe it's a placebo effect, which actually is a thing, but a lot of times it's people are medicating away this helpful It's part of depression and sadness, which is reflecting and drawing people to you and all of this.
00:31:14.000And so this idea of it's a disease, that, you know, it's also used with alcoholism.
00:31:19.000It's just this idea, people like to put these things in these neat boxes, and it doesn't really work.
00:31:31.000I think just like some people have liver problems, some people have thyroid issues, there are absolutely people that have issues with their brain's ability to produce serotonin.
00:31:43.000How many of those people is the real question?
00:31:45.000And to generalize completely, let's say, you know, all depression is a disease that should be medicated, or all depression can be cured with exercise.
00:31:56.000I don't think it's healthy to go either way.
00:31:59.000I know many people that have been in really bad places in their life.
00:32:04.000They got on some sort of an SSRI, and then they started feeling better, and then they weaned themselves off, and now their life is in a way better place.
00:32:11.000Like a good buddy of mine, he was suicidal.
00:32:15.000The really interesting thing is, when he got on medication, he couldn't find the right one.
00:32:25.000You're talking about medicine, you're talking about medication, but there's a lot of guesswork to this whole thing.
00:32:31.000You know, I have to say, because I'm writing a big expose now, I didn't intend to do this, but I tried to shove it off on both Nina Teicholtz and Dr. Eads, and they wouldn't bite.
00:32:40.000So I'm doing it reading medical research.
00:32:43.000I can't even begin to tell you how non-evidence-based Maybe even most of our medical care is.
00:32:50.000And I'm lucky that I have a psychiatrist now who is really evidence-based and went on for future training, further training, because I had been taking Ritalin, which just made me jumpy.
00:33:01.000It didn't really help me with my focus.
00:33:37.000It's making your heart race or whatever.
00:33:40.000And he said that this Adderall, what it does that's different, it pushes a little dopamine out into your brain besides being a dopamine reuptake inhibitor, which we hear with serotonin, with antidepressants.
00:33:51.000So it regulates that, but it also goes like, squirt, here's a little dopamine.
00:33:55.000And the first day I was on that, the first pill I took, it was the best writing day I'd had Really, in 20 years.
00:34:12.000And so much of our medical care, if you look at the stuff on diet, Nina Teicholz has been great on this, Gary Taubes.
00:34:18.000The Eads, you know, there are other people on this who have shown that, look, don't eat this high-carb, low-fat diet the government recommends.
00:34:28.000And here, this high-fat, low-carbohydrate diet, for many people, maybe not all because we have individual differences, this seems to be the most healthy diet and also not eating polyunsaturated fatty acids and stuff like that that we know about more and more.
00:35:25.000What's a ratio of your triglycerides to your HDL? And so basically my ratios, which the doctors at Kaiser don't understand, they are so good that I say that I'm as likely to have a heart attack as I am to be kicked in the knee by a unicorn.
00:35:44.000Well, isn't that crazy, though, that doctors are doing this?
00:35:46.000I mean, I understand that they went to school a long time ago, and I understand that a long time ago, that is what people thought, that if your cholesterol hit a certain point, you needed to take some sort of medication to lower your cholesterol.
00:35:58.000But if you eat a healthy diet, and your body is doing well on that healthy diet, you have to take into consideration, what are the What are all the factors involved in health and vitality and the understanding of HDL versus LDL and the balance of triglycerides?
00:36:19.000If you're a doctor and you don't understand that and you're giving advice and you're telling people to get on statins, it's fucking disturbing.
00:37:19.000Yeah, he did this, quote unquote, research, but he excluded countries that didn't show- What research is this?
00:37:25.000It was in the, I think it was in the 50s.
00:37:27.000He did this multiple country study where he looked at what people ate and what he did.
00:37:33.000It's like this, there's a story from the Holocaust where a guy shot all these bullseyes in the wall and some army person came up to him and said, how did you learn to shoot that way?
00:37:42.000I first shot the wall, then I drew the bullseye.
00:37:45.000And so that's what Ansel Keys did with his research, and he excluded any countries that didn't fit what he wanted to say, which is eat this diet that we've been eating, our government told us to eat for years, this high-carb, low-fat diet that actually causes you to be just a hungry motherfucker all day.
00:38:04.000And so, you know, what I learned from Gary Taubes, who's actually a friend of mine, so I got in early on the low carb thing because I heard while he was writing this, that carbs, so this is potatoes, starchy vegetables, fruits, fruit juice, sugar, these things cause the insulin secretion that puts on fat.
00:38:23.000It makes you diabetic and all these things.
00:38:25.000And there's some indication that maybe Alzheimer's is diabetes 3, diabetes of the brain.
00:40:12.000Before I stopped eating bread, I went to Starbucks in Culver City, and I would always get the thing that was the regular fatty thing, croissant, whatever.
00:40:44.000If anybody doesn't like me a little rounder than other people, fuck them.
00:40:48.000And I started going to Bubby's Diner in New York City having this chicken potato burrito, which now I wouldn't eat the bread and the potato.
00:40:54.000And I started losing weight just by eating like a normal human being and not excluding fat.
00:40:59.000And that was sort of instructive for this.
00:41:01.000And now I just basically try to eat fat all day.
00:44:13.000I mean, look what we did to, not we, obviously you and I weren't alive back then, but whoever looked like us that did that to the Native Americans, introducing alcohol to them, and they didn't know what to do with it.
00:45:59.000And what happens is, so this professor will do these people, these researchers, they do some research, but they don't totally support it, and then they don't work in a transdisciplinary way.
00:46:07.000So you have to support this one's research with that one's research, and this became this big thing.
00:46:12.000And I just kept having nightmares about my editor, who's a nice man, chasing me down the street, asking for my advance back with an axe.
00:46:39.000Multi-sport, world record holding, Masters 50-plus athlete, nutrition for performance and health, healthcare, not sick care, no medical advice here, and all he does is eat meat.
00:47:51.000You know, the boyfriend looks at a saltine, and he gains three pounds, and I'm lucky.
00:47:56.000So my family were Eastern European shithole Jews, and, you know, it probably wasn't a lot of food, and, I don't know, somehow my body learned to manage that, having a lot and having not a lot, and it managed it better.
00:48:36.000But can you get the vitamins in the way you need, in the way your body uses them from taking vitamin pills or even from eating, you have to eat a ton of this, you know, I don't know, bean curd or something.
00:48:51.000That's the dishonesty about vegetarianism.
00:48:53.000And some people knowingly make that tradeoff, but I sure wouldn't.
00:48:56.000I'm sorry as much as the bunnies are cute and Well, Chris Kresser was a vegan for a long time, and he had some pretty serious health consequences because of that.
00:49:39.000This is the individual differences thing that I was talking about before.
00:49:43.000And there's this big push to say, oh, men and women are alike and groups are no different from each other.
00:49:50.000But, you know, you don't see Jews as NBA basketball stars.
00:49:54.000You know, and Jews and people from Northeastern Europe tend to have lactose tolerance in a way other people do not.
00:50:01.000So where we are from, where we mainly our evolution took place, that, you know, and I mean, that goes back way, way, way, way back, that that affects us.
00:50:13.000Our skills, our abilities, as well as our digestive abilities.
00:50:54.000And then also there's a tendency to want to prosecute people to say, You are a slovenly fat person, and the reason you are heavy is that you did not go to the gym, and I went to the gym, and I am a holy gym-goer, and you are a scummy, terrible couch-sitter.
00:51:46.000You exercise, you get hungrier, and you replace that.
00:51:50.000I don't have all the nuances on this, so everyone should look up that Tubbs piece in New York Magazine, because he's just fantastic and explains it well.
00:51:55.000The problem with all that is it's very anecdotal.
00:51:58.000When you start saying that diet is the way to go and that exercise does not make you thin, it's anecdotal.
00:52:04.000Because some people, exercise absolutely makes them thin.
00:52:07.000I mean, I know a lot of people that have started doing jujitsu and lost 30, 40 pounds.
00:52:12.000I know a lot of people that have done that.
00:52:14.000And it works, you know, because it's extremely strenuous, extremely rigorous.
00:52:38.000Like, there's a lot of evidence that actual weightlifting is way better for burning fat than anything else because when you weightlift, your body makes more muscle.
00:54:42.000You know, those kids who are, you know, if you have them do the same kind of play, you will see that one kid ends up being fatter and one isn't.
00:54:49.000And it's not, you know, if you fed them the exact same things, you can see that the factory is just working differently in one kid.
00:54:57.000The other thing to take into consideration, you were talking about lactose intolerance.
00:55:02.000One of the things that I read really recently is that a big part of lactose intolerance could be attributed to the homogenization and pasteurization of milk.
00:55:11.000And that we're very concerned about diseases, rightly so, and freshness.
00:55:16.000But milk's not supposed to be able to sit on a shelf for three weeks.
00:55:21.000You're supposed to get milk, and if you drink it at all, it should be fresh.
00:55:24.000And that way it has the enzymes in it.
00:55:26.000And that what we're doing by boiling this milk and pasteurizing it and homogenizing it is where you're creating this dead protein liquid shit that your body doesn't know what the fuck to do with.
00:55:36.000And then the weirder ones is when you take it and you suck the fat out of it.
00:55:41.000Like when you have low fat milk and a lot of people don't even realize that low fat milk has sugar in it.
00:55:45.000They literally add sugar to low fat milk to make it palatable.
00:55:52.000It might be low-fat as in fat content, but as in the effects it's going to have on your body, it's not low-fat at all.
00:55:59.000Yeah, actually, Jeff Volick, that dietary researcher, basically agreed with me when I said to him, so is it basically child abuse to feed your child skim milk?
00:57:32.000And I had to send it to a bunch of people like Rhonda Patrick and doctors and scientists that I know.
00:57:38.000I'm like, am I wrong here or is this crap?
00:57:41.000And Onnit wrote a piece, one of the researchers for Onnit wrote a piece essentially saying the American Heart Association is essentially whack.
00:57:48.000It's kind of a whack institution and they're not on top of the ball.
00:57:51.000Yeah, I just found this with another medical association in this piece I'm writing.
00:57:55.000And it's really terrible because what happens is, so doctors say that you go to an HMO, those doctors, they go by the recommendations of these big associations.
00:58:05.000So you've got the big associations telling basically medical fairy tales.
00:58:10.000They're continuing to tell the same fairy tale that they've told.
00:58:32.000All these people who have done this work to put out the real science, they have saved an enormous amount of lives and stopped people from having horrible diseases.
00:58:41.000I really think that they're all heroic because it's been a fight to put that stuff out.
00:58:45.000It's been a big battle for them and they have people fighting them all the time.
00:58:50.000Well, most people, they go to a doctor for advice, but the reality about medical school is you take very little time to learn about nutrition.
00:58:57.000So a lot of these guys, whether it's an orthopedic surgeon or whatever their specialty is, the idea that these people are the go-to expert on every single area of the body, including nutritional absorption, is ridiculous.
00:59:12.000And there's a great many people that know more about nutrition, and especially state-of-the-art nutrition, than your doctor does, unfortunately.
00:59:23.000But see, if you realize that, then you're already ahead of the game, and you can say, okay, I'm going to use you for tests.
00:59:35.000I mean, there are obviously some great doctors out there that can give you some, like my doctor, Dr. Gordon, Mark Gordon, who is also an expert in traumatic brain injury.
00:59:44.000And, you know, he's a really nuanced guy.
00:59:47.000And when I talk to him about cholesterol and all these different factors and LDL and HDL and...
00:59:53.000And he can give me a research-based sort of point of view on it because he's doing it himself.
01:00:13.000And see, if your doctor discloses that to you, if they say, look, I really know nothing about diet, and I'm going to give you advice because they say that I should give you advice, but really it's not based on anything other than they printed out some sheets here, then okay, because then you're informed.
01:00:28.000It's not like your doctor is leading you on with a white coat, but most people are being let on.
01:00:33.000Well, it's just, we have this idea, you know, we have this idea that, you know, what do I need to do to be healthy?
01:00:39.000Well, you know, maybe I should go on a vegetarian diet.
01:00:43.000Well, listen, if you eat fucking cupcakes and burritos and fucking cheese doodles all day, yeah, a vegan diet is going to be amazing for you.
01:00:59.000Maybe it's my thing, you know, but if...
01:01:02.000Trying and trial and error becomes really difficult for people because most people have jobs and families and obligations and hobbies and things they like to do.
01:01:11.000They don't want to spend time going through PubMed studies and trying to figure out what the fuck is the good thing to eat and the bad thing to eat.
01:01:34.000The great thing is that there is more stuff out there that's written for lay people where people who read the research explain it to people in a way that is very clear and understandable so people can make more of their own decision, I think, than they ever could before.
01:01:48.000There's also people that are super cynical.
01:01:50.000They're like, hey man, I grew up with Dr. Seuss and the food pyramid was always weed at the bottom and at the top was all this other stuff.
01:01:56.000But now everybody's flipping the food pyramid and you're just taking out the bottom part entirely?
01:02:01.000And so what's going to happen five years from now?
01:02:03.000You're going to tell me, well, high fat is actually terrible for your brain or, you know, it's just people are understandably tired of all this stuff.
01:02:13.000And it's like real easy to just sort of compartmentalize and just push it away and just listen to your doctor.
01:02:21.000And the point you made before about the people who are eating the Cheetos and cupcakes diet, well, of course, if you start eating a vegan diet, you're not eating Cheetos and cupcakes, you're going to see an effect, but is that a good effect in terms of your long-term health?
01:02:35.000And we see that vegetarians don't have necessary proteins that you get very easily from meat and nutrients.
01:02:41.000What if you eat balanced amino acid profile foods like I know pea protein and hemp protein is very good.
01:03:39.000Well, I can see that because, I mean, I don't think that animal cruelty is a good thing, and I think animals should be humanely slaughtered and kept.
01:03:46.000And so I think that that's a really good argument.
01:03:48.000I have friends who are vegetarians for that reason who know about eating meat and being a healthier way to have a diet, but they choose to make that trade-off.
01:04:01.000And as long as you're making a choice, a reasoned choice, and you know what you're trading off, then I'm fine with that.
01:04:06.000Yeah, no, I think that's, and again, for some people, vegetarian is probably the way to go.
01:04:11.000And that's what gets really confusing.
01:04:13.000It's like, how do you figure out what is the right way to go?
01:04:35.000How do you find the evidence-based doctor?
01:04:38.000Because I'm in an HMO, so I can just switch doctors forever and ever, but I just stay with the doctor and then read stuff myself because I can do that.
01:05:00.000It would be great if there were somebody who could make a lot of money maybe doing a site saying, look, I'm this doctor and here's what I look at and think.
01:05:07.000And so you could choose because we tried to find one for my boyfriend in Los Angeles and like, well, nobody knows.
01:05:16.000I mean, they're out there, but it's hard to find them.
01:05:19.000Yeah, because you try five, six doctors, you go through them, and these are all doctor appointments, you have to pay for them and everything, and then you find, okay, you don't know anything, right, on to the next.
01:05:27.000And it's also incredibly time-consuming.
01:05:29.000Like, when I go to my doctor, when I get blood work done, we have a 75-minute consultation.
01:05:35.000We have to sit down for 75 minutes and go over all the various micronutrient levels and all the different levels of...
01:07:46.000I mean, one of the things that we've talked about a couple times recently that people keep throwing around is the recent studies that show that people who eat a lot of red meat are more likely to get cancer.
01:07:55.000And the issue with these studies is a bunch of issues.
01:07:59.000One, they don't differentiate what kind of meat.
01:08:01.000They don't differentiate whether or not you eat it with vegetables or whether you eat it with white bread and spaghetti.
01:08:19.000These are called cohort studies, and I call them, if you see that cohort studies or observational or population-based, you know, observational study, I call them leap to conclusions after the fact.
01:08:30.000And they're just like the shit of studies, you know, because did the person, you know, like you're saying, what caused this thing that we're seeing?
01:08:39.000Okay, they're, you know, have this effect.
01:09:05.000And you'll see articles like that, that even in, like, really respectable publications that have this really attractive headline, and then you read the actual article itself, you're like, wait, what are you basing this on?
01:10:13.000And that's why it's important to not just be this lazy person who reads only the abstract and the conclusion, but to look at the methodology and see if their stuff screwed up.
01:10:20.000I saw a study done by Harvard professors where they didn't have a control group for their third experiment.
01:10:44.000The third part was in a train station.
01:10:47.000And I can't remember what the study was about.
01:10:49.000I brought it with me at an evolutionary psychology conference thinking, this will be easy to write a column from because I had a question that kind of matched...
01:11:36.000Well, there's a difference between science and then headlines from articles that are written about science by people that might not even necessarily be scientists or really truly understand the science.
01:11:48.000They just want to get an article out there that people are going to pay attention to.
01:11:51.000Well, I'm sensitive to credentialism as I don't have a PhD and started out giving free advice in the street corner in Soho as a joke.
01:13:07.000And I discovered this guy, Albert Ellis, who was the father at the same time as Aaron Beck, of cognitive behavioral science.
01:13:15.000And then started reading more and more and immersing myself more and more in science and going to scientific conferences.
01:13:21.000And then because this thing where I look for people to criticize me so I can get better, I mean, not the people who are like, hey, whore on the internet, but I would ask professors, like, did I get this wrong?
01:14:00.000Now, so you started out doing this, you set up this card table, and some free advice, and then how did it progress to you having this column?
01:14:10.000Well, so we're doing this, and just because it was so fun, and we got so much out of it, and I learned this, that basically if you help people, if you do kindness to other people, for other people, you feel really good.
01:14:21.000So there's self-interest in being kind, especially to strangers.
01:15:19.000And so I got it in a whole bunch of papers, even though all the syndicators who do that – and by the way, if anyone asks, it's not possible anymore.
01:15:32.000But back then, I went to syndicators and they said, yeah, we think you write a really great column, but Ann Landers and Dear Abby of all the real estate, you'll never make any money.
01:15:40.000And so I went to an alternative weekly newspaper conference in Montreal.
01:15:43.000I stayed in like the Hooker Hotel because I couldn't afford the real hotel.
01:15:46.000And I just went around saying like, here are my little samples, here are my little samples.
01:15:49.000And so paper started picking up my column.
01:15:51.000So I built a business out of doing this, out of free advice.
01:15:55.000And then over the years became increasingly science-based.
01:16:01.000I have a book I weep reading under my desk, Biostatistics is the Bare Essentials.
01:16:06.000I read a lot of stats websites and try to improve in that area in terms of scientific thinking and understanding statistics so I can be better at assessing studies.
01:16:32.000Well, the thing that I do, I just feel like I don't have a right to just give you my opinion.
01:16:37.000So before it was a science-based, it was very reason-based.
01:16:41.000I always loved critical thinking and reasoning and logic.
01:16:44.000And so now, you know, I'll look at somebody's question and I'll sometimes think I know the answer, but I'll always read to see, oh, actually, no, it's this.
01:16:53.000I'll read a bunch of papers and I look for what's called the most parsimonious answer, because there can be a bunch of answers to something, but it's like, What is the thing that most closely, narrowly answers this person's question?
01:18:56.000And this way, like, it seems worthwhile.
01:18:58.000Like, if I could do this over again, if I had a time machine and go back and say, like, hey, miserable, loser-ish person, here's what you do, and write this down because then it's going to take you, you know, this many years instead of, like, that many years, I would do that now.
01:19:12.000And so what I tried to do is persuade people to be smarter than I was, basically.
01:19:17.000Well, you're giving advice based on your personal experience.
01:19:21.000Like, this would have been a better way to do it.
01:19:32.000Okay, you eat that cupcake, you're going to enjoy it, but here's the trade-off.
01:19:35.000Well, writing things down, one of the things that's important about that is it cements those things in your memory.
01:19:41.000and it puts them in especially in my opinion physically writing I don't know why but like for notes like I have notes on my phone that I keep from like comedy sets of like things that I need to do but they're not as effective as a notebook I keep a notebook as well and my notebook is not where I write in I write on a computer but my notebook is where I write things down that I need to remember like Yeah.
01:20:52.000You know, genre that I never wrote anything in where they said to write stuff.
01:20:55.000But I think that that's very important.
01:20:57.000And also for memorization, that that's an important thing, that to write stuff.
01:21:03.000When I have, I did a TED Talk and I had to memorize stuff for it.
01:21:06.000And I can see where I wrote stuff on the pages.
01:21:09.000So I had the type pages, but then I had stuff where I scratched in notes.
01:21:13.000And I can picture that still, even now, even though I don't have the greatest memory, I don't think, the places that I wrote notes in this colored ink.
01:21:21.000There's something very memorable about that where it isn't with the type page.
01:21:27.000Yeah, I don't know what it is, but it definitely works, right?
01:21:55.000You know, I want to do anything but that, but I know that I just have to do it because I'll feel so much better, not just then, but the next day.
01:22:03.000It seems to, I see an effect on mood the next day.
01:22:06.000You know, with this thing in Vegas, I got very, just in a dark place that day that happened, and I just made myself get on the bike, and it's the time I felt least like that.
01:22:16.000And I mean, like, how dumb, because all these people are going through this horrible stuff, and I'm like, oh, I couldn't get on a bicycle anymore.
01:22:21.000But it really is, you have your own little world.
01:22:24.000That's where you inhabit and you have to take care of it.
01:22:27.000And that was what I did to just not, I didn't want to go into a depression.
01:22:32.000Well, it's also a habit that's a good habit to form, the habit of getting off your ass and putting action to just doing something.
01:25:26.000So each 25-minute block of work is a pomodoro.
01:25:29.000Once you've completed four pomodoros, take a longer break of 20 to 30 minutes.
01:25:33.000This will help your brain relax and refocus before your next session.
01:25:37.000So this is default mode processing that goes on.
01:25:57.000But I find that the thing about not having a maid and doing the work yourself, you clean the baseboard down here or take the little Clorox wipe and do something, you have these small wins.
01:26:06.000So you accomplish something, even though it's just a little tiny thing, you clean your countertop or whatever with bleach, that you've done something.
01:26:14.000And where maybe you're writing, it's frustrating, you haven't really accomplished much, you didn't figure out the thing you needed to figure out.
01:26:20.000So you have that elevated feeling of having done something that you're talking about.
01:27:27.000But I do that and that's just such a, it sort of alleviates some kind of that pressing feeling of you have of like, there's not a solution, I don't know.
01:27:36.000And you're moving, you're doing this thing where you're moving forward.
01:27:39.000That's this thing about your brain, not just, we don't just think about solutions, like we can actually move in ways that help your brain be more powerful.
01:27:49.000The walking thing, that seems to be one of these ways where you take some pressure off.
01:27:56.000I put things on the wall in my shower and I'll correct things.
01:28:00.000I also put up things I don't understand to look at them over and over again.
01:28:04.000The other thing, too, is people feel bad if they're not instantly...
01:28:09.000I'm geniuses at figuring something out.
01:28:12.000And what I like to do is go over and over and over things.
01:28:14.000So on this thing that I'm writing now, this medical care expose that I'm writing now, the research is really new to me and complicated.
01:28:21.000And so what I do is I have a pile of papers.
01:28:24.000There's like a step stool in my bathroom.
01:28:37.000An escalator, going back and forth, because when you do it like that, you get sort of a deep understanding that you don't when you just read it at first.
01:28:44.000And I know this from writing, that there's an understanding.
01:28:47.000I can listen to somebody present their work at a scientific conference and understand it, but can I explain it to you?
01:28:53.000And that's a whole different level of understanding, this deeper understanding.
01:28:59.000When you're talking about walking too, do you think that walking has an effect also because it's a very mild exercise?
01:29:06.000So it's not exhausting you, it's not hard, but you are getting some good circulation because you're forcing your body to pick your legs up and move forward and your heart starts beating and I think it sort of ignites some systems.
01:29:19.000Yeah, I think that you're probably right about that.
01:29:21.000And you feel just this sense, you know, because you're going forward.
01:29:24.000So forward's a metaphor for success and progress and all these things.
01:29:29.000And I think that all of that, it sounds kind of silly, but I looked at all this metaphor stuff and I don't think it's so silly.
01:29:52.000Or, uh-oh, that thing's going to eat me and I'll back up.
01:29:56.000And those, there's a term called neural reuse by this guy Anderson, and a guy named Dehane said it in a different way, but the idea is that the human emotional system comes out of, or they use the term scaffolded, I don't think they use it right,
01:30:11.000but it comes out of the approach and avoid mechanisms of tiny organisms.
01:30:22.000And so if you look at it that way, it makes sense that walking, that going to the bank, I'm going to walk in little tennis shoes and wear those Asian pool man sunglasses.
01:31:33.000But it's like with whatever mucinex I used to take that they now have behind the counter and they sell the one out in the aisle that doesn't work.
01:31:40.000They remove the active ingredient and they sell the lesser ingredient in America.
01:31:45.000So if you want to get the anthelios that actually works, you have to go to France.
01:32:09.000So this stuff is just way stronger than anything you get here in America?
01:32:14.000Well, it's this Mexoral that's the ingredient that protects you from UVA and UVB. And it's just, it's really the most protective ingredient.
01:32:30.000Like I go, you go to a bad neighborhood and buy it there in some like yicky pharmacy there.
01:32:34.000So when you're taking this stuff, like what is the difference between that and say like Coppertone or something you get in America?
01:32:39.000Well, that doesn't, I think it doesn't protect, I can't remember whether it's UVA or UVB that it doesn't protect against fully.
01:32:46.000The kind with the titanium dioxide protects, but also the other problem with these sunblocks is that, you know, do they affect your endocrine system in terrible ways?
01:33:21.000So it's one of my better qualities, I guess, or worse.
01:33:24.000But that is an interesting point about affecting your endocrine system that I never really took into consideration.
01:33:30.000I've been thinking about sunscreen, you know, because I was reading this thing about the Great Barrier Reef being destroyed by sunscreen, and spray sunscreen in particular.
01:33:41.000Yeah, someone sent me this message, and I don't know if it's correct, that the spray sunscreen is the issue with wreaths and not the rub-on stuff.
01:34:47.000Swimming that, uh, swimmers that slather themselves in sunscreen are doing their skin a favor, but it might not be so helpful to any nearby coral reefs.
01:34:54.000That claim, released in a recent scientific study, sparked global headlines faulting sunscreen for the global decline of these hotbeds of biodiversity.
01:35:02.000It's a disturbing idea that something so necessary for protecting humans from skin cancer could be doing so much environmental damage, but what weight should we give this scientific finding?
01:35:34.000They determined that the chemical has a detrimental effect on the DNA of coral in both its juvenile and adult stages.
01:35:41.000The study was published in the journal Archives in Environmental Contamination and Toxicology.
01:35:47.000In the lab, the researchers exposed coral to high concentrations of oxybenzone.
01:35:55.000Not only did it deform coral larvae by trapping them in their own skeleton, the study found that it was also a factor in coral bleaching.
01:36:03.000Terry Hughes, director of the Australian Research Council Center of Excellence Coral Reef Studies at James Cook University, told Mashable Australia he thought the report's findings were inconclusive.
01:36:38.000You know, are you looking at stuff, do they pull out some cells and do something to them, and does that replicate or not replicate what happens in the human body?
01:36:48.000Are there other things, other reactions going on that are missing from them, you know, when you do that, when you pull it out and just look at it in a Petri dish?
01:37:15.000And, you know, like salt, for instance, right?
01:37:18.000If you put a little bit of salt in your food, you're going to be fine.
01:37:20.000You eat a pound of salt, you'd be dead in an hour.
01:37:22.000Well, this is the thing that, you know, if you look at studies, this is why it's important to read them over and over like that and to really pick them apart if you want to assess them in any sort of reliable way, because you have to look at those nuances and think, well, wait a second.
01:37:35.000I call this thing the leave-the-lab syndrome, where you look at something, they've studied something, you think like...
01:37:45.000And this is stuff, you don't have to be a scientist, but it helps to think scientifically, to think logically, and so it's always good to enhance that thinking so you can look at that and look for the bullshit.
01:37:56.000Yeah, but for a lot of people, they just see that headline.
01:37:59.000Oh, coral reefs dying because of sunscreen.
01:38:27.000And I think, like, okay, I eat a ketogenic diet and then I put on the sunscreen.
01:38:32.000And you look at all that and you try to make the best guess you can that works also within what matters to you.
01:38:37.000As a woman, I don't want to look really haggard, you know, when I'm 65. Well, you're You're supposed to be living in like Scotland or something.
01:38:44.000If you look at your skin color, you're supposed to be in some marsh somewhere.
01:39:02.000Are you screwing yourself up in some way because you aren't getting this nutrient or whatever it is, the way your body evolved to take it in?
01:39:49.000The thing you said about the football thing, I thought, okay, I earn a living writing, and I really can't do a lot else that if I crack my head open, I might not be able to earn a living ever again.
01:41:07.000That's the part of Africa that they do that, I believe.
01:41:10.000That seems like one of the weirdest...
01:41:13.000Sort of habits or behavior patterns that people have ever adopted, where it's one of the weirdest cultural traits that's just passed down from generation to generation.
01:41:23.000And the larger the plate in their lip, the more cattle they're worth when they get married.
01:41:51.000I'm trying to remember it, but I remember it being connected somehow or another to the slave trade and that it made these women less likely to be raped.
01:42:11.000But what we were saying about white people before, now actually, I mean, you see this probably all over Twitter, too, this thing of white privilege.
01:43:44.000And what happened was, for people who don't know, they essentially said, they used to have a day of absence of people of color.
01:43:53.000And the idea is it's a very progressive school.
01:43:54.000And they said, look, if we have a day where people of color or people of varying ethnic, people who aren't white, essentially, that's what it is, they don't show up, maybe they will be appreciated more, maybe we'll take them into consideration more, their absence will be felt.
01:44:10.000So then they decided, let's flip that around and force white people to stay home.
01:44:16.000White staff members, white teachers, white students.
01:44:20.000And Brett was like, you're out of your mind.
01:44:51.000But it's this escalation, this war of ideas, where you're forcing your ideas and you're shouting people down and calling people guilty before they've ever done anything, which is essentially what this is all about.
01:45:04.000And, you know, now he's not at the school anymore.
01:45:10.000And actually, I would argue that, you know, for people who are of color to make a protest by not going to school for a day after people fought so hard.
01:45:20.000I love that little girl, the picture of the girls in Little Rock going to school, you know, where they desegregated the school.
01:45:27.000Imagine being a little girl and that's you going with these police officers to school.
01:48:25.000If you grew up in a bad neighborhood and your parents don't model that sort of work ethic and the possibility to hope for success, well, why should you think there would be any hope for you and why should you work?
01:48:58.000But if you are this person of this face color that we want, we're going to put you in there even though, you know, you have the same grade point as somebody we're kicking out.
01:50:21.000You can help people who might have been throwaway people to succeed if they just see, look, it's possible.
01:50:27.000And here, how do we put the stability?
01:50:29.000Or you're a child of a single mother that comes with it certain...
01:50:32.000It comes with certain risks if you grow up in a certain kind of risky neighborhood.
01:50:35.000There's a whole area of evolutionary psychology called life history theory that talks about this.
01:50:41.000It's called having a fast life history strategy.
01:50:44.000It's adaptive if you grow up in a risky, terrible neighborhood where things are unstable, to get pregnant early, if you're a male, to be violent.
01:50:52.000All these things that aren't helpful in our modern society, but they're kicked off by that unstable situation.
01:50:59.000It's unstable environment where you grow up.
01:51:01.000So, okay, if instability is a problem, we can't just say, okay, your single mother should go back in time, get in a time machine and go find a man and marry somebody before she has you.
01:51:24.000And so because they've done that, you don't punish the kids.
01:51:27.000How do we give those kids the stability they lack?
01:51:31.000And I think one of the ways is to have people go in from the earliest grades and model what, for example, my parents modeled for me as these suburban, not wealthy, but just sort of middle class suburban people, work hard, do this, do that, and you will be okay.
01:51:45.000Well, I think also the problem with the Asian folks in universities is they don't complain.
01:51:51.000And the squeaky wheel gets the grease and these people aren't protesting and aren't screaming that it's racist.
01:51:56.000What they're doing is they're putting their head down, they're working.
01:51:58.000And they're working hard and that's a part of their culture.
01:52:01.000You know, I grew up with a lot of Korean kids and they're extremely hard working to the point that I felt like a lazy fuck when I was around them.
01:52:09.000And one of my good friends when I was a kid, my friend Jungshik, he was doing his residency for medical school.
01:52:17.000He was also competing on the U.S. National Taekwondo team.
01:52:20.000He was going to school all day long and then he was training two to three hours a night.
01:52:40.000And you're seeing that in universities.
01:52:41.000You're seeing that with their results.
01:52:43.000But you're also seeing that with the fact that even though they're discriminated against, Like, racially discriminated against by universities.
01:52:50.000No one's complaining about it, so they continue to do it.
01:52:53.000And they do it under the guise of diversity, because so many of these Asian people are so successful in their academic careers, and they're doing so well, and getting into schools, they're pushing them out to try to balance it out.
01:53:57.000And to deny that and to deny that effort is a factor in outcome is preposterous and it sets up this fantasy land that so many kids live in today while they're protesting Ben Shapiro calling him a fucking Nazi.
01:54:14.000You have these kids that are trying to shut down Republican-speaking on campus by calling them in these blanket statements they're white supremacists and racists.
01:54:43.000And also, you know, if you look at what real diversity is, to me, it's bringing in people who didn't have economic advantage because these are the people who have a hard time.
01:54:52.000It doesn't matter if they're black or white.
01:54:54.000You know, I know I have a number of black friends who are highly successful.
01:54:58.000Some of them are researchers and they grew up in suburban neighborhoods.
01:55:05.000You know, they didn't need a leg up from anybody because they did what I did, which is work hard.
01:55:09.000My mother told me, so I grew up a Jewish kid in a neighborhood with no Jews and they like egged their house and everything like that.
01:55:15.000My mother said to me, you know, there are people who hate Jews, so you're going to have to work harder than other people because some people are going to be prejudiced against you and try to keep you out.
01:55:24.000So that was a message not, oh, we should whine about this and isn't this terrible, as murderous as my parents can be.
01:56:07.000I mean, and if we listen, what I try to do is to look at the other side, you know, the side I don't agree with, like you were talking about this before, where you maybe see things, you see their point, or you look at stuff that you want to agree with.
01:56:21.000There was a Nick Kristof thing, a piece on, okay, here's what we have to do with guns.
01:56:27.000And I looked at it because we all want, there's this idea of like, do something.
01:56:30.000We want to do something, but something is not a good thing to do.
01:56:33.000And I looked at his piece wanting to find something in there that would say, yes, we just do these things.
01:56:38.000And every single thing in there, it was all meaningless stuff that wouldn't have stopped the guy in Vegas.
01:56:44.000And so I looked at that wanting to see something and you see nothing.
01:56:47.000And so it's the thing of being honest, being intellectually honest, and honest when your side is full of shit too.
01:56:53.000And, you know, when it comes to something like the thing in Vegas, we want to find some sort of solution when it doesn't necessarily exist.
01:57:18.000But then to say that those weapons should not be accessible to people who are not criminals, that's also weird.
01:57:27.000Because you're saying, like, well, if we have laws in this country that allow a person to go and buy a gun for personal safety, And then something like this happens where people get shot and murdered by some crazy person.
01:57:41.000And then you take those rights away from the people who have done nothing wrong.
01:58:53.000But, you know, I talked about it the other day with my friend Alonzo Bowden, and immediately people were making articles saying that we were calling for a police state and confiscation of the guns.
01:59:29.000It's not bad to say, let's look at this.
01:59:31.000It doesn't mean we want to take away everybody's guns.
01:59:33.000It means that we want to think about things.
01:59:36.000If there's ever been a clear instance that there's a giant problem with someone having access to guns like that, show it to me.
01:59:43.000Because this guy broke windows in a hotel and shot 500 fucking people.
01:59:48.000If that's not a clear situation where people need to look at it and go, okay, how does this get prevented?
01:59:55.000And it doesn't get prevented by burning your head in the sand.
01:59:58.000It doesn't get prevented by just going back to the Second Amendment and just yelling it out and stomping your feet and pounding your fist on the table.
02:00:06.000You know, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED! That's not how you prevent your children from getting shot by a fucking psycho.
02:00:13.000See, I think what's hard in this, too, is that we don't have any answers.
02:00:16.000There's no, well, if it was just mental health or just this or just that, because it's a mystery.
02:00:21.000So people are just grasping at things, and everybody's standing their ground, the pro-gun, the anti-gun, and they're saying, see, see, and all the disgusting stuff on Twitter.
02:00:31.000And people did try to curb this a bit, the stuff of people using that as a ramp for their own, whatever their views were.
02:01:02.000It's a constant barrage when you hear that for that period of time, that gun going off so many times and so many people being just that guy's victim.
02:01:17.000He did a 90 minute interview and is one of the most fucking bizarre interviews I've ever seen in my life.
02:01:22.000He's so removed from his brother doing this and he's talking about what a great guy his brother is and how Quirky his brother was and how his brother was just he was eccentric and he was just talking about what his brother would have done and the casino people all knew his brother and to say they didn't know him was crazy.
02:01:43.000But this guy seems like a guy trying to act normal.
02:01:49.000I mean there might be like some sort of a mental health issue with the entire family because the dad apparently was a psycho and was a serial bank robber.
02:02:54.000And actually, so it's Unfuckology, a field guide to living with guts and confidence and good manners for nice people who sometimes say fuck.