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00:00:46.000I think I was in such a bubble, I didn't really, and I wasn't on the road hardcore, and I wasn't, I don't know, I wasn't identifying with me as a performer so much.
00:07:33.000You're just, if Mary Lynn comes up with a show, if this guy has a tour, if she's doing a this, or he's writing a book, you make money off art.
00:08:47.000I went to art school for painting and I got really frustrated when people started to critique the paintings and I was supposed to be getting more serious in art school and more conceptual and everyone was doing something different and everyone was critiquing it in a different way and none of it made sense to me.
00:09:09.000And then the idea of having to sell that I mean, it makes it sound like I don't like or appreciate art.
00:09:21.000I just, for me, I couldn't grasp what the next thing to do was.
00:09:26.000You know, you're poor, you're in art school, you're making something, and then you have to go sell and market that thing.
00:10:23.000Because I think you could probably get away with doing that under the guise of it being something you're doing, you know, in a class somewhere.
00:10:33.000I think I was focused on his beautiful lips.
00:10:35.000I was trying to be polite and not look down there.
00:10:38.000Another woman was obese and her piece was, she had pre-set up, we weren't aware she was doing the performance, butter pats in like dominoes, like a few thousand of them in a line and she was obese and she crawled on the ground She didn't actually eat them,
00:11:06.000I went to Detroit and then finished in San Francisco, and San Francisco is known for being a real performance art history artist.
00:11:16.000A lot of the, you know, the most famous performance artists, nobody knows.
00:11:20.000That was the scene, it was in San Francisco.
00:11:22.000So it was a two-story, really beautiful campus overlooking, you could see Lombard Street on one side, you could see the water on the other side.
00:11:29.000And another guy's piece was to jump from the second story to a tree, that he may or may not have made the jump, and that was his art piece.
00:11:41.000His art piece is jumping from a window to a tree?
00:14:01.000I taped like phrases to my body and phrases from commercials or snippets of conversation that I had heard and I went up and I started reading them and then I would improvise a little bit and I'd be like waxy build up or whatever and just repeating Just letting it all filter through and come out my mouth for five minutes of whatever the open mic was and I started getting laughter but it was like awkward laughter after the fact of that uncomfortable like what it what is she doing
00:14:32.000but my commitment level was so high that the fact that it didn't make any sense Just caused laughter, right?
00:14:45.000There's a lot of people that are just really odd, and if you saw them, you would get it, but if you saw what they wrote on paper, or what they said just written down on paper, you would be like, what?
00:14:58.000Well, I thought you were going to say, which is a similar point, that it comes in the pause and after what they're saying, even if it doesn't make any sense.
00:15:05.000But you're saying sometimes people write things and it makes its own sense when you hear them say it.
00:15:23.000You don't want to just hammer them over the head with it.
00:15:27.000So you just started doing that, and how did it lead to actual stand-up stand-up?
00:15:32.000It was a really fun time in San Francisco because the comedy clubs were closing, so a lot of comics were coming to these open mic poetry rooms, and one of my favorite rooms was in this bar.
00:15:41.000And also, I was from the suburbs of Detroit, and so just being in San Francisco, that was a real city, and a friendly city, you know?
00:15:49.000Like, it's small enough, and it's beautiful, and they have a real arts scene, and it was the first time that I had seen, like, a real counterculture scene.
00:16:18.000And I would sit and crouch on the floor and drink like a half a beer and be like, oh, this is crazy.
00:16:23.000And I would watch her read from her journal.
00:16:26.000And I did a similar thing where I would just, and it was always, I didn't know my own mind or my own thoughts, really.
00:16:32.000So I would write down random words and I would perform it.
00:16:35.000I mean, and still now, it's, you know, I've progressed a bit, but it's like it informs you how the audience reacts, or it begins to.
00:16:43.000And I just love seeing all these, like, different people and what they thought they were saying versus what they were really saying and what their intended effect was and how people were really seeing them.
00:16:54.000Anyway, so comics started dropping into these rooms, like Patton Oswalt and...
00:17:00.000Jeremy Kramer and Blaine Capatch and, you know, Greg Behrendt, all these Ron Lynch people that were more San Francisco affiliated that were there at that time would start doing these open mic nights.
00:17:14.000But because a comic is so versed in their own voice that...
00:17:22.000Watching them, I was like, oh, they know how to speak, and they're more polished.
00:20:36.000Because I remember I had been on the road doing...
00:20:40.000Comedy really for the first time in the club proper, even though I had tons of stage time, but connecting it back to that alt scene where it would be a different thing every time, and I didn't quite know what I was saying.
00:20:52.000So in the past four years was when I did the six shows per weekend, and you're like, I'm your entertainment for the night, and I learned how to do that.
00:21:00.000Right, when people came out to see you.
00:22:27.000It's a weird thing to get involved with.
00:22:30.000Chase down these ideas and try to figure out how to flesh them out and give them structure.
00:22:34.000Do you feel like you are always, because I see you as somebody who's so powerful and such a strong point of view and strong belief system, do you feel like you've always kind of been that way?
00:23:12.000If I had my own way and I had nothing to do with stand-up, I probably would be way more antisocial, way more guarded and protected, and way more insecure because I hadn't answered those questions.
00:23:25.000I didn't pose them of myself because they made me uncomfortable.
00:23:29.000So what stand-up allowed me to do is, like, I wasn't the most outgoing person.
00:23:36.000And even so, I'd get, like, social anxiety.
00:23:39.000I've talked about this before, but I would, like, talking to a bank teller, I'd know that I'm next to talk to the bank teller, and I'd kind of freak out.
00:23:45.000I wouldn't exactly know how to talk and say things and do it right.
00:23:51.000But it changed from teaching martial arts.
00:23:53.000When I started teaching martial arts, I learned how to project in front of this big room full of people, which is something I never imagined I was going to do.
00:24:38.000Boards and shit and you'd kick them and stuff like that which we never did in real life We only did for demonstrations like we never trained that way But my point was like getting into stand-up.
00:24:47.000I didn't have a particularly clean point of view I think I was 21 years old.
00:24:53.000I was thinking was a moron, you know I didn't have any life experience other than martial arts and girls like that was all I could talk about and I didn't I knew martial arts weren't really funny.
00:25:03.000So it's just relationship stuff but um Hey guys, how about when we hit that block and we don't really do that, am I right?
00:25:12.000What's up with us kicking those blocks of wood, guys?
00:25:31.000I mean, I have a lot of material that's true, but I'm just now kind of starting to build that deeper...
00:25:40.000The belief system thing, you know, like I talk about my personal life and there are kernels of things in there, but it's it's scary to kind of Come out.
00:25:49.000Yeah But it's fun because that's what people want, you know, that's what like that's what gets it going and that's what gets everybody excited and that's what It's cool.
00:25:59.000Yeah, you know what comedy has taught me one really important thing as a person You're not done Never.
00:26:07.000There's no like you're a finished product.
00:26:25.000I haven't done it very often, but I did it a couple of times in my career where I got like surgery or something like that and I had to take some time off.
00:26:33.000And then I got burnt out once, maybe like five years ago, and I took three months off.
00:27:49.000Have you ever been on stage and just been, not angry, but like not enjoying, kind of not wanting to be on stage and it shows in your performance or do you always get out of it through performing?
00:28:06.000There was a woman who kept heckling me in the front row of the Comedy Store, just interrupting, just stopping bits before I had a chance to explain them.
00:28:14.000And then finally I had to kick her out.
00:29:46.000There's just some smart lady that was drunk that thought she could stop what she thought was sexism probably because she was drunk.
00:29:54.000But there's a difference between like you then overcoming it and being like haha that was awesome and then the feeling of I think what I'm I was tense.
00:30:05.000Yeah, like where you're just in inside your own head going I don't want to be here like that sucked like it's not fun.
00:30:11.000It wasn't that it was just like I shouldn't have allowed myself to get so upset but I came into the stage upset that was part of the problem is that I had a crazy day with a lot of fucked up things happened and I carried that energy onto the stage There was a lot of weird shit that happened in my life that day.
00:30:28.000It was just like enough enough fucking enough And then her.
00:30:31.000Yeah, it's like weird shit with friends and a couple weird business things.
00:32:04.000But that was also when Duncan was hanging out with you, you know, he and I just broke up, so that was the baggage I was referring to.
00:32:12.000But, like, I just thought, you know, you have such a strong energy that I was like, oh, that guy and I, not that I, it's weird, because I wasn't, like, I just never pictured us talking easily.
00:33:54.000Oh, and then the other thing that, when I was talking about going on the road, which I was going to mention, coming back to the store, because I was there in the 90s too, and it was just like a terrible place and a bad vibe.
00:34:56.000That's a really hard room, because these people, especially that late show, like, they've just had dinner, and they're there, and it's so dark, and it's, it's like a room, I don't know, some people love it, but it's a room that's sort of seen its heyday at a different time that it would be packed out.
00:36:23.000Yeah, clubs have to be, like, they've got to be right on top of you.
00:36:27.000I was going to say, I came back from going on the road for the first time and doing the six shows, and I was on 24, which I love that we're just full-on comedy shop talking, by the way.
00:37:54.000Like, I would sometimes have somebody sitting, like, with a...
00:37:57.000This guy had an article of clothing that I had worn in season three, so I'm, like, trying to do comedy, like, okay, like, you just want me to sign your thing.
00:38:05.000But, you know, my approach was, because I'm in my own head, so I'm like, hi, so my name's Mary Lynn, and doing my, like, I'm uncomfortable, and that's where my comedy comes from.
00:38:45.000But that was the only drama I had ever been on.
00:38:48.000And I had this whole other world of comedy that I had been doing, but the intersection of that was just bizarre.
00:38:56.000But then, like you said, you're never done, and you never know what's going to happen, and you adjust to it.
00:39:01.000So I would do the 24 stuff, and then I would go into my...
00:39:06.000That's my stuff about my life and my personal life and my point of view.
00:39:10.000And then that became really gratifying, you know, once I sort of brought them in, did the thing that they needed to hear about, which is also part of my life.
00:39:22.000How long did it take before they stopped coming to see you because you're from 24 and started coming to see you because you're a funny comic?
00:39:29.000Oh, I'm still waiting for that to happen.
00:39:32.000I'm still hoping for a career in comedy.
00:39:38.000So I did that same circuit a year and a half later, and there would be some super fans, there would be some comedy fans, and there would be some people that didn't know why the hell they were there.
00:40:55.000I also learned something about myself, the shitty road, because I... I would not have a car, and I'd take the hotel that they gave me that would be by the freeway that would be not even near the city and a little bit from the club, and I'd just hole up.
00:41:08.000And then it took me a while to realize, like, oh, you like that.
00:41:11.000Like, I like a certain amount of suffering and, like, it's so shitty here.
00:41:16.000I'm going to go, like, walk along the freeway, and then, you know, someone would be like, why didn't you get a car?
00:41:50.000There was one hotel room that had like a dining room table for 10 and like these big plastic flowers with dust all over them and this weird hot plate with foil on it and a walk-in closet.
00:42:02.000But it was the shittiest, most run-down.
00:43:07.000But when you're in the road and you're in like a shitty hotel in Pittsburgh or something, it's in the middle of January, you look out and the sky is like a shitty, dark, smoky gray.
00:45:32.000Ali Wong has a great bit of I'm Not Gonna Do It Justice, and I don't want to paraphrase it either, and I don't want to tell anybody what it's about, but it's essentially the difference between life for a woman comic on the road versus life for a male comic.
00:46:15.000But I, for whatever reason, I'm like...
00:46:18.000He needs me to listen to him right now.
00:46:20.000And I stood there like, what is wrong with me?
00:46:22.000He had two thick photo books of the thousands of dollars of memorabilia and the pictures of all the items and the itemized of shit from the show.
00:48:54.000Oh, I never completed this, whatever, the story of going through being on the road and then coming back to the store and thinking like, I got it because I've been on the road, right?
00:53:11.000So what I do is just stuff it filled with information, work it out, get it to run hills and do jujitsu and yoga and burn that motherfucker out so that I could be calm.
00:53:21.000And so a lot of what people notice today versus how I was like 20 years ago is I understand myself better.
00:56:50.000Like, yes, you can listen to it, but...
00:56:53.000Um, so that's, it's teaching me that as well, how to like, drive the train instead of like, I'm gonna be open to you and listen and go wherever you want me to go, you know, and just react to you.
00:57:07.000There's also, like, there's a weird feedback loop thing going on there because people like it when you go, oh, well, what do you think?
00:57:14.000So you like the fact that they like that you do that, and then you avoid the conflict that way.
00:57:20.000But then you have to swallow it for the rest of the day.
00:57:43.000And then, that's like one of the big arguments for writing new material too.
00:57:48.000The idea is that every time you write a new act, especially when you have to, like release a special or something like that, you're going to be better because you understand comedy better than you did two years ago.
00:59:16.000I didn't even know that there were allergy shots.
00:59:19.000Yeah, and it's like a little cocktail of all the things, cocktail for me, of all the things that I'm allergic to, and then I just build up my tolerance.
01:00:37.000So you got the shots, your body went into shock because of all the allergic shots, and then they had a fucking boom right in the thigh?
01:00:43.000Yeah, and my allergist was like, he did it in my arm, but he said I didn't even raise it that much, but I went home and I was reading and I'm like, God, I'm itchy.
01:00:52.000Oh, I must have been sweating, like I worked out and I didn't...
01:00:57.000For like a full 10 minutes, I wasn't conscious.
01:01:00.000I was just subconsciously going, man, I gotta go take a shower or something.
01:01:03.000And then I lifted up and it was like, like traveling.
01:01:08.000And then I just was like, I'm having an attack.
01:01:17.000I was looking for the Benadryl, couldn't find it, called my allergist and he goes, yeah, just come here right now.
01:01:24.000And then I drove there just like so scared because I could feel it traveling and I'm like, you know, panicking, but also trying to like manage, like when you panic and it's a good thing because you have to act fast.
01:01:37.000And then I thought, are my eyes going to close up?
01:03:12.000Dr. Rhonda Patrick, she's a giant proponent of sauna and also cryotherapy.
01:03:19.000And she was talking about the benefits of cold shock proteins.
01:03:24.000And one of them is your body freaks out when you go into those cryotherapy chambers because it's like 250 degrees below zero.
01:03:30.000So you get this big, powerful burst of norepinephrine.
01:03:35.000You get cold shock proteins, these cytokines, because your body's trying to react to the fact that you have this massive cold environment that you're just trapped in.
01:03:42.000It's like so fucking cold, your body freaks out.
01:03:44.000And it produces this really radical anti-inflammation process.
01:04:35.000Too much heat will kill you, for sure.
01:04:37.000Too much cold will kill you, for sure.
01:04:38.000But a little bit is actually very good for you, because your body has a response to that, and that response sort of invigorates your entire system.
01:04:46.000Kind of speaks to what we were talking about, performing and stressing yourself, going through that stress in order to...
01:04:54.000Yeah, I listened to a chunk of that Yoel and...
01:05:11.000And your everyday, and your living there, it just made me think about my own life, which, you know, my parents worked really hard to, like, make me comfortable.
01:05:19.000And here's your TV, and you go to school, and you come home from school, and how that's the goal in, like, suburban life is to just...
01:06:40.000I'm going to do my chores and I'm so comfortable right now.
01:06:44.000Now I'm going to deliberately make myself uncomfortable in order to do what I know is good for me and that I enjoy doing and that I want to have success in and that takes me to another place in my life.
01:06:54.000But it's, you know, I do it in a very small...
01:08:28.000The whole thing's crazy, and it was run by a dictator forever.
01:08:30.000And they had some of the best athletes in the world in boxing, in judo, in wrestling, just world-class athletes that had mental toughness the likes of I mean, it's hard for the average person to even comprehend what those people are capable of.
01:08:44.000And a lot of it is because of that really brutal system that you all talked about on the podcast.
01:09:13.000That is the product of genetics, ruthless training, ruthless environment, one of the most complex and sophisticated sports training systems in the world, with boxing and with wrestling and with judo.
01:09:27.000I mean, they're just phenomenal over there.
01:09:30.000In a different way for someone like me, like, I don't relate necessarily to what he does is, like, foreign and amazing, but through my own life, it's like, oh, I can be not comfortable, and, like, that's why it seems like a contradiction,
01:10:29.000It's weird because, you know, it's not like woe is me, but like just knowing that even that you had choices that you could try to be something great.
01:13:05.000I was playing that, I was playing I Want to Be Starting Something and Thriller in the car on the way taking my son to school and I start crying just because it's like, how do you explain what he was and how monumental what he did was?
01:13:25.000Like I can remember seeing him dancing to Billie Jean and like how Kind of like broke the mold for music and the persona that he had and that level of creativity.
01:14:07.000But here's one of the more fucked up things.
01:14:09.000This is something I speculated a long time ago.
01:14:12.000His doctor who went to jail for giving him the anesthesia also testified that Michael Jackson was chemically castrated by his parents when he was young to preserve his voice.
01:14:23.000I suspected, I talked about it on the podcast, like, years ago I was saying this.
01:14:27.000I think he was a castrata, which is, they take young boys, and they used to do this with opera, and they would castrate them at a very young age.
01:14:35.000And because of that, their body never developed testosterone, so they would develop this high, piercing, like, haunting voice.
01:21:31.000And I described, like, the moment I knew I had given up was, and this is just an exploratory, I still don't have it figured out, the moment I knew I had given up was I was making my stay away from my vagina poster with glitter, and then I marched out to the curb and was like,
01:23:10.000That just makes you a person who just decided that's not what you wanted to do.
01:23:14.000And also, look, it would be nice if you threw your one into the 600,000 that were marching through the streets of downtown LA, but there's still 600,000 people, even if you're just watching it from the news and go, you go, girl!
01:23:47.000Maybe people feel like, hey, even though some fucked up things have gone down with Harvey Weinstein and all this other shit, at least it's turning around.
01:23:55.000Maybe people are bummed out that this guy became the president, but now people are active.
01:23:59.000Maybe people are paying attention more.
01:24:17.000We don't see it in terms of like right in front of us on a daily basis.
01:24:20.000But this is like a cultural war and an idea war.
01:24:22.000And so I think that these things happening right in front of us and having these uncomfortable moments Forces these conversations.
01:24:29.000There's just gonna be peaks and valleys in the conversation where people are rude and people are calm and maybe there's gonna be some breakthroughs, but ultimately at least...
01:25:16.000We have to address how many of these people, whether it's correlation equals causation or not, how many of these fucking people have been on psych medicine?
01:25:26.000Now, does that mean that they're mentally ill and so that's why they shoot people?
01:25:30.000Or that doing these psych meds, a lot of people call the effects of these things very disassociative, that they allow people to do horrific things they might not have been able to do before or inspire them to do that?
01:25:42.000It's not exonerating the people that have done these horrific things or exonerating the people that got the guns in their hands.
01:25:47.000It's not doing that, but it is a factor.
01:25:49.000There's a factor that people aren't taking into consideration because it becomes a one or the other thing.
01:25:56.000It becomes an either we need more gun control and we need stricter gun control or we need to do something about the effects of psych medication.
01:26:14.000There was an article that was, I'm sorry to interrupt you, but there was an article that was written, I gotta remember this, that was written recently that was really ridiculous.
01:26:20.000And it was saying, contrary to popular belief, most of these mass shooters are not mentally ill.
01:26:24.000Well, what the fuck defines mentally ill if they're on psych medication?
01:26:29.000They're all on anti-psychotics and psychiatric meds and SSRIs.
01:26:34.000They're almost all So if they're not mentally ill, why the fuck are they taking medicine?
01:26:38.000How are you shooting people and that in itself is mentally ill?
01:26:43.000If you can just go into a school and shoot 19 children, you have to be mentally ill.
01:26:47.000But the point is, if they're not mentally ill, why are they taking medicine for people who are mentally ill?
01:26:54.000And it's an article, who knows what the fucking, whether it's a contrarian point of view that's designed to get clickbait, Hits, or whether it's someone who's trying to set up a narrative that's contrary to what the pharmaceutical drugs companies have known for years.
01:29:15.000I mean, are you really blaming the group of people that wants gun safety to be paramount and the group of people that doesn't want their rights to be infringed?
01:29:37.000Because everything you're saying, I'm just thinking that the person that shoots a bunch of people, whether they're on psych drugs, whether they have access to a gun...
01:29:50.000Mental health issues, they're isolated to the point where they can do something like that.
01:29:59.000A quiet little statement that someone is isolated is something that we can't address because it's so complicated and it's such the fabric of how we live our lives.
01:30:12.000It's so much easier to blame and fight for all these things, but how do we fix the one guy whose brother was just found with all that porn?
01:30:23.000Yeah, the guy that shot all the people in Vegas.
01:30:27.000How do we address just how fucked up people are in general?
01:30:55.000Our disconnection from each other that we're so fucked up.
01:31:01.000There's definitely going to be people that feel alienated and they always want to, they see these people having a good time around them and they want to just flip over the game.
01:31:10.000They want to say fuck you and burn the whole thing to the ground.
01:31:13.000There's always going to be people like that.
01:31:16.000What do you mean they see people having a good time around them?
01:31:18.000They see people that are happy, that are enjoying life.
01:31:21.000Like, especially if this kid felt alienated in school and bullied and cast out and targeted, and then he gets free and he sees these people that are having fun.
01:31:30.000He just wants to go back and just punish everyone.
01:31:38.000How do we help people who are in pain?
01:31:41.000You're going to have to do a lot of things, right?
01:31:42.000Because, like, think of the people that had their children locked up.
01:31:47.000Who are these monsters and how do they have a kid?
01:31:49.000How is it so hard to get a car license and it's easy as fuck to have a kid and raise another member of our culture, of our society, our community?
01:31:58.000You've introduced a poison, toxic member to our community because you did a terrible job of raising them.
01:32:03.000And one of the oldest ones went to college and then they would, I can't remember, I think it was a dude, would come out and the mom would be waiting for him and like, So the oldest one was out in the world and still no one could help.
01:32:19.000Like, whatever mind melds they had on...
01:32:22.000So the oldest one was out and he didn't say that his younger brothers and sisters were locked up?
01:33:18.000And that's my issue with all this masculine bullshit, is a lot of these guys that are proclaiming masculinity are really bitches.
01:33:29.000And that real men wouldn't be doing this stuff in the first place.
01:33:34.000You would look past most of this stuff in the first place.
01:33:39.000You know, there's a lot of people in this world that don't have personal sovereignty, whether it's men or women.
01:33:46.000And they're not raised correctly, and then they didn't go on a beneficial path through life that left them in the current state where they're a helpful member Of our community.
01:33:58.000See, this is a show about family values.
01:38:07.000It's hard to just fucking dig your heels in and decide to do something that's tough like that.
01:38:11.000And then also the financial investment.
01:38:13.000If you decide to do it yourself, you gotta spend a lot of money and hire a crew and make sure the director doesn't fuck it up and make sure it all comes out well.
01:39:12.000I kind of want to do a 15-minute special because I have this thing that I've done for years, and I don't do it very often, but it's so dumb.
01:48:20.000Yeah, you're giving me the training right now of the stuff that's like, obviously, you remember when you went off on that thing, go back and listen to it and write it down.
01:48:27.000Think about the things that you've said today that have helped you, right?
01:48:30.000Like how you've had to speak clearly, do all these things.
01:49:22.000The more time and enthusiasm you put on something, the better you're going to get at it.
01:49:27.000If you're a guy, like say if you're a bowler, and you only like to bowl 40 minutes a day, but you want to be the best in the world, you're not going to be.
01:50:05.000I guess I'm trying to connect it to what we were talking about earlier about people who get isolated and don't have friends and don't have a feedback and don't have those tendrils of being able to make that leap so that you start eating yourself alive.
01:50:22.000Well, I think with everything it's like little steps.
01:50:25.000You never climb out of the barrel, right?
01:50:32.000And if you're a person who's been living your life with a bunch of fucking negative thinking in your head, take steps in the right direction.
01:50:40.000Take a step, but then you have to acknowledge that step.
01:50:43.000Like, oh, something nice happened to me today.
01:51:05.000And he was talking about how, you know, he was a fat loser who kept making excuses for himself and just, like, drinking chocolate milkshakes every day and working for an exterminator, and he was fat as fuck, and he just decided, I don't want to do this anymore.
01:51:17.000And he had these moments where he went running, he ran three quarters of a mile, then he turned around and walked back home.
01:51:57.000But this guy started out running three-quarters of a mile and then he quit and turned around and walked back home because he was fat and he was eating milkshakes every day.
01:52:20.000I mean, he's just a pure, A machine made out of, like, motivation and discipline.
01:52:25.000Like, you don't get more discipline than that guy now.
01:52:27.000But he wasn't at one point in time in his life.
01:52:29.000And by him expressing that on the podcast is really an inspirational podcast.
01:52:34.000I think it gives everybody hope, because you like to think that, oh, that guy who is really good at this thing, or that guy who's really mentally tough, or this girl who's super disciplined, who just accomplishes thing after thing, she's always been like that.
01:54:21.000You know, didn't do stuff I could have done for a couple hours, and now, you know, I thought we were podcasting, so now I have all that time, so I'm just like, well, I have that stand-up-on-the-spot show tonight, so I really was just...
01:54:49.000Yeah, so I weirdly, but it was kind of a productive day because then when I got to the end and was so appreciative, it made me so aware of the nightmare of my own head that I was very conscious of what I was doing.
01:56:12.000Right, so then that becomes an excuse to not...
01:56:16.000We were talking before the podcast about yoga, and I was saying how when I did that 15 days in a month thing, I decided to end it with nine days in a row.