The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1098 - Eddie Bravo

00:00:05.000 No headphones?

00:00:07.000 I'd rather not have headphones. 1.00

00:00:08.000 You're crazy.

00:00:09.000 No, because I learned that hearing my own voice in my head makes me focus on it, and I don't want to focus on the sound of my voice.

00:00:17.000 I want to focus on the thoughts. 0.99

00:00:19.000 I'm focusing on, ooh, it's like blowing out in my head and all this shit's going on. 0.99

00:00:23.000 That's smart. 0.99

00:00:24.000 Tell me one.

00:00:26.000 What's up?

00:00:28.000 We were talking about whether or not you should have headphones on or not have headphones on.

00:00:32.000 Are we up?

00:00:34.000 No?

00:00:36.000 If you're hearing the audio recording of this, what's happening is we switched to a new TriCaster.

00:00:41.000 We were having problems with our old one.

00:00:42.000 The TriCaster is the machine that allows Jamie to switch cameras and put everything up on the internet and hopefully include Skype so we could get some people from like...

00:00:53.000 It's getting signaled but there's no video showing.

00:00:56.000 Are we going to restart?

00:00:57.000 I don't know.

00:00:59.000 I'm trying to make sure that that's actually true.

00:01:01.000 Sorry.

00:01:01.000 It's okay.

00:01:02.000 We might have to restart, folks. 0.99

00:01:04.000 We're trying live while we're going live with some new shit. 0.93

00:01:08.000 But I want people on YouTube. 0.97

00:01:10.000 Is it?

00:01:12.000 Audio but no video.

00:01:13.000 I don't know why.

00:01:14.000 I'll figure that out in a second.

00:01:15.000 Ladies and gentlemen, if you are just staring at a blank screen, would you have to shut this show down to get the video back up?

00:01:21.000 I shouldn't have to.

00:01:21.000 It should work.

00:01:22.000 Alright, just do a double camera, a two-shot.

00:01:25.000 I think it's going to be okay now.

00:01:27.000 Is it live now?

00:01:31.000 It would suck if we did like a half an hour and it turns out none of it got picked up or we did a whole show.

00:01:39.000 It's going on YouTube right now for sure, just they don't see us right now.

00:01:43.000 He's trying to fix that. 0.74

00:01:47.000 Tech motherfuckingology.

00:01:49.000 We were having problems with our old TriCaster crashing a lot, so we got a new TriCaster.

00:01:54.000 But it turns out that...

00:01:55.000 What is it that doesn't match up?

00:01:57.000 What part is wrong?

00:01:59.000 The control panel?

00:02:00.000 There it goes, there it goes, yeah.

00:02:01.000 Okay.

00:02:02.000 Now we're live.

00:02:03.000 Hey, everybody. 0.99

00:02:04.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

00:02:06.000 What were we just talking about? 0.99

00:02:08.000 We're talking about material.

00:02:10.000 Headphones.

00:02:11.000 Oh, listen to yourself in the headphones.

00:02:13.000 What I think of is though, it makes me like, I close out the outside world totally and I just lock in on the conversation.

00:02:19.000 Yeah, it's only psychological.

00:02:21.000 But if he puts up a video, it would be nice to hear it.

00:02:24.000 Then you put your headphones on.

00:02:25.000 Right, then you have to put the headphones on.

00:02:26.000 I just feel like when that's on, it's just like I pay more attention to it.

00:02:31.000 Not talking over people, too.

00:02:33.000 I can't stand the sound of my voice.

00:02:35.000 So hearing it in my...

00:02:36.000 You've got a beautiful voice, bro.

00:02:36.000 Thank you.

00:02:37.000 Thank you.

00:02:37.000 But I can't stand the sound of it.

00:02:39.000 And I hear it enough.

00:02:41.000 I don't need it blasting in my ears as I talk.

00:02:43.000 Then I focus on it.

00:02:44.000 And then I get depressed.

00:02:45.000 I think that's a good quality.

00:02:47.000 It's a good quality to hate your own voice.

00:02:49.000 Dude.

00:02:49.000 Oh, my God.

00:02:50.000 Because if you love your own voice, you would listen to it all the time.

00:02:52.000 Like, ugh.

00:02:53.000 You know how hard it is to listen to my stand-up?

00:02:55.000 That's very hard.

00:02:56.000 For everybody.

00:02:57.000 It's death.

00:02:58.000 It kills me.

00:02:59.000 But I always hear your voice. 1.00

00:03:00.000 You've got to listen to your shit. 1.00

00:03:02.000 You've got to go back and edit. 1.00

00:03:03.000 You've got to edit your shit. 0.99

00:03:04.000 I'm like, I don't want to listen to myself. 0.99

00:03:07.000 I want to put every time I go up on stage behind me.

00:03:11.000 I don't want to go back.

00:03:11.000 But I know that's not the right thing to do.

00:03:13.000 You take a lot of time out of the development of a joke process if you just listen to the previous versions of it.

00:03:21.000 Because I have this new bit that I'm doing right now, and I have three different versions of it.

00:03:28.000 Right now it's very shaky.

00:03:30.000 It's very shaky.

00:03:31.000 It goes one way, it goes the other way.

00:03:32.000 Sometimes it gets big laughs, sometimes it's just clunky.

00:03:36.000 And I've got to figure out which one's the right formula.

00:03:38.000 So the only way to do that really is to listen to how I did it right and then play it back and then write it out.

00:03:44.000 I'll listen to how I said it and then I'll write it out.

00:03:46.000 And then I'll think about what I would be thinking if I was sitting there listening to this or someone was saying this.

00:03:53.000 Would I anticipate what they're saying, what the punchlines are going to be beforehand?

00:03:57.000 Because if you do, that takes a lot out of it.

00:03:59.000 You've got to find a way to sneak it in.

00:04:01.000 You've got to find a way to make it where it really relates. 0.98

00:04:04.000 You ever have an old bit that you like an old one from like 10-15 years ago that you think like damn I should have added that you know, you're adding shit to it today. 0.93

00:04:15.000 Oh, yeah, man If you kept going that's like the argument like Ari had a good point about that. 1.00

00:04:20.000 He was like if you Just keep adding to your bits and making them better and that's why you don't want to release a special you could have used that same creativity to come up with new bits and Instead of doing the same old bits for 10 years, you could have used that.

00:04:34.000 Because there's some guys that think that.

00:04:36.000 If you've got those old, old, old bits, they're samurai swords, man.

00:04:40.000 They've just been hammered down and polished tight.

00:04:44.000 Certain bits, they have this rhythm to them.

00:04:46.000 You're like, Jesus Christ.

00:04:48.000 I remember...

00:04:50.000 I did a I did a special once and I ran I didn't have like hardly any new material and so there's like 2009 ish or something like that so I did some of my old old shit from like 1999 Tiger bit no no it was uh some other stuff What I didn't I didn't do that bit when I retired that bit I retired that you gotta bring that you could always bring that back you could always bring that back It's over.

00:05:15.000 But I remember thinking, damn, these 10-year-old bits that I had for literally 10 years before I did my first recording.

00:05:23.000 I started in 88, and I recorded in 99. So almost 11 years before I actually recorded anything. 0.97

00:05:28.000 They were so tight!

00:05:29.000 Because I'd never done them on anything.

00:05:32.000 So I could do them all the time.

00:05:33.000 I'd do them on the road.

00:05:34.000 I'd just...

00:05:35.000 It's like jujitsu.

00:05:37.000 Yup.

00:05:38.000 You learn that path.

00:05:39.000 Yeah, your go-to's. 1.00

00:05:41.000 You got like a fucking ninja. 1.00

00:05:43.000 It's unconscious. 1.00

00:05:44.000 Yeah.

00:05:45.000 I love your description of it.

00:05:47.000 You were talking about tying your shoes.

00:05:48.000 You know how you tie your shoes?

00:05:50.000 You don't think this loop's going in here and this is going in here and then I'm going to bring it here.

00:05:54.000 You just do it like that.

00:05:58.000 You couldn't even teach it to someone over the phone.

00:06:01.000 I couldn't explain.

00:06:01.000 Teach me over the phone and be like, I gotta do it a few times first and figure out what the hell I'm doing, because I don't even know what I'm doing.

00:06:05.000 I have no idea what I'm doing when I tie my shoes, and I do it every day.

00:06:08.000 Yeah.

00:06:09.000 My son, when he learned to tie his shoes maybe six months ago, he never wanted to.

00:06:14.000 He wants to do everything.

00:06:15.000 He wants to decide where we eat every day, but he doesn't want to tie his own shoelaces.

00:06:21.000 So we finally made him, and he was struggling with it.

00:06:25.000 And I use that as an opportunity to show him how you can master anything, anything that you're having trouble with.

00:06:33.000 Go, look, right now, you're having trouble with it.

00:06:35.000 You could do it.

00:06:35.000 He could do it.

00:06:36.000 But he struggles.

00:06:38.000 I said, one day you're going to do it like daddy.

00:06:40.000 Look how daddy does it. 0.57

00:06:40.000 I'm not even looking at my shoes. 0.57

00:06:42.000 Look.

00:06:43.000 And I do it, and I go, boom.

00:06:45.000 And he's like, I go, look at daddy.

00:06:46.000 Isn't that crazy?

00:06:48.000 Isn't that crazy?

00:06:49.000 I'll do it again.

00:06:49.000 Look, my other shoe.

00:06:50.000 And I do it and he's like, whoa, how did you do that, Daddy?

00:06:54.000 That's like magic.

00:06:54.000 And I go, you can do it too.

00:06:57.000 Watch, one day you're going to do it and you're not even going to look.

00:07:00.000 So like the next day he's trying not to look.

00:07:02.000 He's like, Daddy, I'm not looking.

00:07:04.000 Look.

00:07:08.000 He's struggling, but now he's got it.

00:07:09.000 So now I could use that, that whole story that he won't forget and go, remember when you had trouble tying your shoes?

00:07:17.000 And remember how good you get?

00:07:18.000 Look how you are now.

00:07:20.000 This is the same thing.

00:07:21.000 Whether it's gymnastics or breakdancing or jujitsu or karate, whatever we do, it's the same exact thing.

00:07:28.000 Your body is magic.

00:07:29.000 You just gotta tell it a thousand times.

00:07:31.000 And then it finally listens and it'll do it itself.

00:07:34.000 I thought about that today.

00:07:35.000 Not today, but now.

00:07:36.000 If I had to learn today how to do a 360 roundhouse kick at 50 years old, I'd be like, what?

00:07:45.000 What am I going to do?

00:07:47.000 Yeah.

00:07:48.000 Hold on.

00:07:49.000 What are you doing?

00:07:50.000 But when I do it, it's just something I've done my whole life.

00:07:56.000 It's like a dance. 0.94

00:07:57.000 And your bits, like you were talking about, your Noah's Ark bit was so goddamn tight. 0.81

00:08:06.000 Back in the day, if you went on the road, I hung out with you. 0.91

00:08:10.000 I went on the road.

00:08:12.000 If you weren't on the road, we were at the comedy store.

00:08:16.000 Every weekend you weren't on the road.

00:08:18.000 So I saw your act over and over and over to the point where I wasn't listening to the jokes no more.

00:08:24.000 I was listening to the audience reaction.

00:08:26.000 That was what was entertaining. 1.00

00:08:28.000 I gotta sit through another hour of your shit. 1.00

00:08:30.000 So for me, I started being entertained by the audience, like which jokes worked. 1.00

00:08:37.000 And it's fascinating when there's women out there That go out there and they had to drag their husband out. 1.00

00:08:47.000 He didn't want to go out.

00:08:48.000 He wanted to stay.

00:08:48.000 She goes, you never take me out.

00:08:50.000 And she dragged him out.

00:08:52.000 He spent a lot of money.

00:08:53.000 They're buying money.

00:08:54.000 They're buying drinks.

00:08:55.000 She wants to make sure that they have a great time.

00:08:59.000 So there's always like 10 of those wives that drag their husbands out and they just want to laugh. 1.00

00:09:04.000 So they're laughing at stuff that isn't the punchline.

00:09:09.000 There were so many things that you would say that just the way you said them, it wasn't the joke at all, but they'd be like four chicks, four, just laugh, and they're like ready to laugh, you know?

00:09:21.000 Yeah, well, people that love stand-up comedy, you definitely can get into certain rhythms, but then it's like everything else, right?

00:09:29.000 You like one level of comedy, like one kind of comedy, but then you see a bunch of comedians, and then the original stuff that you liked, you think sucks.

00:09:37.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99

00:09:37.000 I used to think Comic View was the funniest shit. 0.99

00:09:40.000 I was obsessed with... 0.99

00:09:41.000 My whole life was all about music, but my two side things were fighting.

00:09:47.000 I loved boxing ever since I was a kid.

00:09:49.000 I was a huge, gigantic boxing fan.

00:09:51.000 Then I got into the UFC. And then comedy.

00:09:54.000 All I taped at home on my VCR was comedy specials and Tuesday night fights, any kind of boxing.

00:10:04.000 It was just comedy and fights.

00:10:06.000 I'm in the same boat.

00:10:06.000 Comedy and fights were my hobby and music was the goal.

00:10:10.000 That was my life.

00:10:11.000 I taped any time Comic View was on.

00:10:14.000 Which one's Comic View?

00:10:15.000 It was all black. 0.96

00:10:16.000 Is that BET? Yes, yes. 0.77

00:10:18.000 Is that the one that D.L. Hughley used to host?

00:10:21.000 Yeah, okay.

00:10:22.000 And, you know, Live at the Apollo, the Def Comedy Jams.

00:10:27.000 Oh, yeah.

00:10:28.000 I was the biggest fan of black comedy.

00:10:31.000 The biggest fan.

00:10:32.000 I mean, you know, right away.

00:10:33.000 And then you look back at some of those stand-ups.

00:10:36.000 After hanging out with you, though, I started going... 0.99

00:10:39.000 Oh shit, okay, that's low level. 0.99

00:10:41.000 A lot of those guys are low level. 0.99

00:10:43.000 Well, it's just there's premises that just get, you know, there's guys out there like Bill Burr or Dave Chappelle or the real high level guys that are seeing things and then they're commenting on things and they're pointing things out that maybe other people didn't notice.

00:10:59.000 Then there's other people that are doing bits because they know other people have done bits on that subject successfully.

00:11:07.000 So it's not totally stealing, But they're not really being creative.

00:11:11.000 They're just trying to recreate some...

00:11:14.000 There's a few guys that do that.

00:11:16.000 You hear them and you go, man, you know that Bill Hicks did a bit about that.

00:11:20.000 You know that this guy did a bit about that.

00:11:22.000 I see what you're doing.

00:11:24.000 You're trying to redo...

00:11:25.000 You don't have your own original point.

00:11:28.000 A lot of those shows were like that.

00:11:30.000 They were just trying to make it.

00:11:31.000 Because it was the comedy boom, man.

00:11:33.000 What you're talking about was like...

00:11:35.000 There was a comedy TV boom that included Evening at the Improv, MTV Half Hour Comedy Hour, Spotlight Live on VH1, some Friday night thing they had on Fox that used to be at the Laugh Factory.

00:11:49.000 They used to have a weekly show.

00:11:50.000 It was crazy.

00:11:51.000 There was so much comedy, man.

00:11:53.000 It was out of control.

00:11:55.000 There was a lot of guys that just didn't belong in the business yet.

00:11:59.000 I mean, I couldn't say that they couldn't eventually have broke, but they were basically like, did you ever notice?

00:12:05.000 Hey! 0.99

00:12:05.000 Like, there's a lot of those fucking guys where they were like, hey, and there's a goddamn Wild Kingdom playing out in my living room. 0.99

00:12:13.000 They had this, like, comedy rhythm that they would do, but they didn't have shit to say, but it still worked. 0.99

00:12:18.000 A lot of those guys were doing comedy to get a sitcom. 0.92

00:12:22.000 They didn't really want to do comedy.

00:12:24.000 Exactly.

00:12:25.000 Exactly.

00:12:26.000 They thought it'd be easier if they did it that way.

00:12:29.000 Well, there was a lot of actors that I talked to about it.

00:12:31.000 They're like, hey, man, for me, it's real hard to get auditions.

00:12:33.000 And he goes, and for the longest time, I'd sit around and watch you guys get development deals. 0.99

00:12:37.000 And I'd be like, fuck that. 0.99

00:12:38.000 These guys don't even act. 1.00

00:12:39.000 And then I realized, like, why am I complaining?

00:12:41.000 Why don't I just do what they do?

00:12:42.000 How hard could it be?

00:12:43.000 Yeah.

00:12:44.000 It's hard.

00:12:46.000 That's easy.

00:12:49.000 Sam Tripoli did a special last week at the Viper Room in Hollywood.

00:12:53.000 Man, we've known Sam forever.

00:12:54.000 I don't know.

00:12:55.000 I've known him for 15 years or something like that, maybe longer. 1.00

00:13:00.000 Goddamn, dude. 1.00

00:13:01.000 Goddamn. 1.00

00:13:02.000 Sam's special. 0.99

00:13:03.000 It was his first special. 1.00

00:13:05.000 It took him 10 years to get his shit together, but holy fuck, that hour... 1.00

00:13:11.000 Slammed. 1.00

00:13:11.000 Beautiful. 1.00

00:13:12.000 He crushes.

00:13:13.000 He did it at the Viper Room, too.

00:13:14.000 He crushes.

00:13:15.000 That's a great place to film a special.

00:13:16.000 Yeah, man.

00:13:18.000 I stayed for both shows.

00:13:19.000 When you film, you do two, just in case something goes wrong.

00:13:23.000 And he would do some stuff, too.

00:13:24.000 It was weird.

00:13:25.000 I've never seen a comic before. 1.00

00:13:27.000 Fuck up a bit go. 1.00

00:13:28.000 Wait a minute. 1.00

00:13:29.000 Let's do that one again and then start again like three times He just wanted to make sure it was perfect because the response was so great that he was just on stage He couldn't even believe it.

00:13:38.000 He couldn't everybody was dying Edwards was there beautiful.

00:13:42.000 Yeah, it was he it was it's really good to see him Blossom I think that you know based on the Netflix specials that I see on average three minutes at a time There's a lot of bad ones, huh?

00:13:56.000 Dude, they're just putting out comedy specials left and right by random dudes you never heard of, and a lot of super vanilla Netflix comedy specials.

00:14:07.000 Vanilla.

00:14:07.000 Like, they're not going deep.

00:14:09.000 Deep.

00:14:10.000 There's a little bit of that going on, and there's also, I think people need to film more shows.

00:14:14.000 I think they're just filming one show sometimes, sometimes two.

00:14:17.000 I really think if you can afford it, you should do four.

00:14:20.000 Ricky Gervais, his new one, I was never a giant fan of his, never really paid attention to him.

00:14:25.000 Like, Ricky Gervais?

00:14:26.000 Didn't he do like cartoons or something like that?

00:14:28.000 His new special on Netflix, that one is a grand slam. 0.99

00:14:32.000 He's fucking good. 0.99

00:14:33.000 Really? 0.98

00:14:34.000 That's awesome.

00:14:35.000 Oh yeah.

00:14:35.000 That's awesome.

00:14:36.000 Did you see Chappelle's?

00:14:37.000 Oh yeah.

00:14:38.000 Those are great.

00:14:38.000 Yeah.

00:14:39.000 How about the one in the belly room? 0.74

00:14:40.000 Crazy.

00:14:41.000 I was there for that one. 1.00

00:14:42.000 Do you remember how he ended that shit? 0.99

00:14:44.000 Basically telling people exactly why he went to Africa, that's pretty crazy. 1.00

00:14:52.000 That took balls. 1.00

00:14:53.000 That's dangerous shit. 1.00

00:14:54.000 He's rich as fuck. 1.00

00:14:56.000 I mean, Cat Williams' latest special is pretty good, too. 1.00

00:14:59.000 I didn't like that one as much, man.

00:15:00.000 I didn't like it as much as I liked his other ones.

00:15:02.000 He spent the first 20 minutes on Jacksonville, because that's where he filmed it, and I thought, you know, okay, I see what he's doing.

00:15:09.000 But I thought he had some pretty good stuff.

00:15:12.000 Considering all the crazy stuff he went through, I thought maybe he'll never be back, and he's just going to be insane or whatever.

00:15:19.000 Right.

00:15:19.000 But he did come back, and he is...

00:15:21.000 I'm a big fan of his.

00:15:22.000 Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed it.

00:15:24.000 But his old stuff is some of the best ever.

00:15:25.000 Oh my God!

00:15:26.000 The Pimp Chronicles?

00:15:27.000 Oh my God!

00:15:28.000 I mean, come on.

00:15:28.000 Yes!

00:15:29.000 Cat Williams was one of the guys that if I don't have shit to listen to in my car, I just put YouTube and just Cat Williams just some random bit. 0.93

00:15:39.000 If I don't have anything to go, he's a go-to. 0.95

00:15:41.000 Yeah, he's a go-to for sure.

00:15:43.000 It's a good time, man.

00:15:44.000 It's a good time for comedy, man. 0.80

00:15:45.000 Yeah, and now the comedy store is un-fucking-believable.

00:15:47.000 It's nothing like...

00:15:48.000 We used to hang out there every day in the early 2000s.

00:15:51.000 2000, 2001, before Tenth Planet was even a thought.

00:15:54.000 Yeah.

00:15:55.000 My life consisted of DJing at strip clubs for money.

00:16:00.000 At home, trying to make it, you know, in music, and hanging out with you doing comedy, you know?

00:16:05.000 Dude.

00:16:05.000 It's crazy.

00:16:06.000 It's crazy when you think about it.

00:16:07.000 That place was always half empty.

00:16:09.000 Yes, it was like a dying dinosaur.

00:16:13.000 It was ready to go. 1.00

00:16:15.000 That shit was ready to go. 1.00

00:16:16.000 And then when you had that Mencia shit and you left, man, the place was, it was like, how is it surviving? 1.00

00:16:22.000 Right there on Sunset, it's a prime spot. 0.99

00:16:25.000 You could put a giant hotel there.

00:16:27.000 How is that place not going to get knocked down?

00:16:29.000 And then when you came back, I remember asking you a couple times in that seven-year absence or whatever it was, going, do you ever going to go back to the Comedy Store?

00:16:38.000 Because I wanted you to go back. 0.99

00:16:40.000 And you were like, fuck that! 1.00

00:16:42.000 I ain't going back. 1.00

00:16:44.000 You felt like you got really screwed by them, and you did. 1.00

00:16:47.000 Those motherfuckers turned their back on you at the Comedy Store and took that dude's side. 1.00

00:16:51.000 And then looking back, they know they made a big mistake. 1.00

00:16:53.000 So you were like, you're standing on your goddamn ground. 1.00

00:16:56.000 Like, fuck that. 1.00

00:16:56.000 I'll go to the Ice House. 1.00

00:16:57.000 I'll go to improv. 1.00

00:16:58.000 Fuck the Comedy Store. 1.00

00:16:59.000 And then you came back, man. 1.00

00:17:01.000 And it's like a different world.

00:17:05.000 Literally a different world. 1.00

00:17:07.000 Like, it's fucking... 1.00

00:17:08.000 Boom! 1.00

00:17:09.000 It's selling out every goddamn night. 0.99

00:17:11.000 Both rooms are packed. 0.99

00:17:13.000 It's like, it's like, it's unbelievable.

00:17:16.000 It's crazy. 1.00

00:17:17.000 Like, you couldn't, nobody would believe that shit. 1.00

00:17:19.000 It's so alive at the Comedy Store. 1.00

00:17:21.000 Yeah.

00:17:21.000 People just go there, like, during the week, like it's a big event.

00:17:24.000 Tuesday nights.

00:17:25.000 Tuesday nights, sometimes they have two sold-out shows, the main room and the original room.

00:17:28.000 You know, the Comedy Chaos Tuesday nights?

00:17:30.000 Crazy.

00:17:30.000 Yeah.

00:17:31.000 It's crazy. 1.00

00:17:31.000 What the fuck? 1.00

00:17:31.000 Yeah, it's never been like that before. 1.00

00:17:33.000 They opened up all those old decrepit rooms and made a bar.

00:17:37.000 They're opening up and everything's...

00:17:38.000 That back bar that used to be a video room.

00:17:41.000 That back bar's the best.

00:17:42.000 You can get away from people and chill out back there. 0.99

00:17:44.000 Yeah, that shit wasn't around back in the 2000s. 0.99

00:17:46.000 They have that whole smoking corridor in the back now, too. 0.99

00:17:49.000 Everybody goes out back to smoke.

00:17:50.000 And outside, the outside bar, it's booming.

00:17:53.000 There's always people there drinking.

00:17:55.000 It's crazy.

00:17:57.000 It's weird, right?

00:17:58.000 The front bar is always mobbed.

00:18:00.000 It's nuts, man. 1.00

00:18:01.000 And then across the street, House of Blues, they knock that shit down. 1.00

00:18:04.000 Like, what? 0.99

00:18:04.000 Dude, when you walk outside and you go up that ramp, you know where that ramp is in the parking lot next door? 0.99

00:18:09.000 That view is insane.

00:18:11.000 Yeah.

00:18:11.000 The view is incredible.

00:18:13.000 Like, they have the best view in the world.

00:18:15.000 Comedy stores, like, it's like Guns N' Roses, man. 0.99

00:18:20.000 Big in the fucking 80s. 0.98

00:18:23.000 Disappeared for 20 fucking years, 25 years, and now Guns N' Roses not only made a comeback, but they're bigger than ever. 0.99

00:18:31.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:18:31.000 They're bigger than ever. 0.99

00:18:33.000 Guns N' Roses is unbelievable.

00:18:34.000 Everywhere they play, they just sell it out.

00:18:37.000 I saw them in Mexico City and got completely blown away.

00:18:40.000 You saw them in Mexico City?

00:18:41.000 Were you there for a seminar?

00:18:42.000 I was there for...

00:18:44.000 Combat Jiu Jitsu?

00:18:45.000 Tony's fight.

00:18:46.000 Oh, no kidding.

00:18:48.000 That brings us to Tony.

00:18:48.000 Wow, that's crazy.

00:18:50.000 You suck. 1.00

00:18:50.000 Yeah, that brings us to Tony. 1.00

00:18:51.000 Oh, it was incredible.

00:18:52.000 And I was never a giant Guns N' Roses fan.

00:18:56.000 I respected them. 0.99

00:18:57.000 I liked their songs and shit. 0.99

00:18:58.000 But as a kid, once one of your friends claims them as their favorite, now they can't be your favorite. 1.00

00:19:03.000 So it's like some stupid... 1.00

00:19:05.000 It's some stupid shit. 1.00

00:19:06.000 My friend Matt, he claimed Guns N' Roses. 1.00

00:19:09.000 I'm like, okay.

00:19:10.000 If he bought a Guns N' Roses record, I would just tape it.

00:19:13.000 I wouldn't buy it, too.

00:19:15.000 So whoever actually owned the master, that was their band. 1.00

00:19:19.000 Fuck you, that's my band. 1.00

00:19:21.000 It's like a sport. 1.00

00:19:22.000 It really is.

00:19:23.000 But you have a bunch of teams at yours.

00:19:24.000 My band was Kiss.

00:19:26.000 Even when everyone made fun of them, I'm the only one who admitted they still liked them for a while.

00:19:31.000 Did you get like that with Boxers, too?

00:19:35.000 No, boxing was different.

00:19:37.000 Boxing is all racist.

00:19:40.000 It's completely racist and it's okay.

00:19:42.000 It's racist?

00:19:43.000 It's the only sport that could be racist.

00:19:44.000 My guy was a black guy.

00:19:46.000 My biggest bummer was Donald Curry getting knocked out by Mike McCallum.

00:19:52.000 When Mike Tyson fought Jerry Cooney, Oh, yeah.

00:19:56.000 Every white guy was praying for...

00:19:58.000 No, it wasn't Mike Tyson.

00:19:59.000 It was Larry Holmes.

00:19:59.000 Oh, whatever.

00:20:00.000 Larry Holmes.

00:20:01.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:20:01.000 That's right.

00:20:03.000 What white guy didn't...

00:20:04.000 Mike Tyson ever fought...

00:20:05.000 Mike Tyson fought a bunch of white guys.

00:20:06.000 But not anybody famous.

00:20:07.000 No, not really.

00:20:10.000 Anybody...

00:20:12.000 Well, Gulotta, the Polish guy, Andrew Gulotta.

00:20:16.000 That's right.

00:20:16.000 But does he count as white?

00:20:18.000 Yeah.

00:20:18.000 He's from Poland.

00:20:20.000 He's pretty white.

00:20:21.000 Sometimes European whites... 0.94

00:20:22.000 Yeah, we don't think of them as American whites.

00:20:24.000 They're different. 1.00

00:20:24.000 They're animals. 1.00

00:20:25.000 We want American whites. 1.00

00:20:26.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:20:27.000 We definitely...

00:20:28.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:20:28.000 We want like...

00:20:29.000 Well, Russians are always going to go for the Russian guy. 0.93

00:20:32.000 So boxing is the only one...

00:20:34.000 I didn't give a... 1.00

00:20:35.000 Fuck who the Mexican was fighting, I'm going for the Mexican. 1.00

00:20:38.000 Even if I didn't know the Mexican, I already had love for him. 1.00

00:20:41.000 If he wasn't Mexican and he was Panamanian, that's good enough. 1.00

00:20:45.000 If he was Argentinian, Juan Rodan, remember him?

00:20:50.000 Argentina.

00:20:51.000 I was like, if he's fighting a Mexican, I'm going for the Mexican. 1.00

00:20:54.000 But if he's fighting a white guy or a black guy, I'm always going for the Latin guy. 1.00

00:20:58.000 That was the only sport where you could be totally racist.

00:21:02.000 My best friend was black growing up, and we both watched boxing together, and he always went for the black guy, I always went for the Latin guy, and it was okay. 0.98

00:21:10.000 There was nothing wrong with that.

00:21:12.000 There was another Argentinian champion that was championed before Marvin Hagler. 0.86

00:21:19.000 Goddammit, it's at the tip of my tongue.

00:21:22.000 I cannot remember his name.

00:21:23.000 I was into Pepino Cuevas, Alexis Arguello.

00:21:27.000 As long as they were Latin, they were Mexican to me.

00:21:29.000 He was right before Marvin Hagler. 1.00

00:21:33.000 God damn it. 0.99

00:21:34.000 I see him. 1.00

00:21:35.000 I see his curly hair.

00:21:37.000 He's a handsome looking fellow.

00:21:39.000 Carlos Monzon.

00:21:41.000 Thank God I got it.

00:21:42.000 I was ready.

00:21:43.000 I was scared Jamie's going to pull it up.

00:21:45.000 Jamie's going to pull it up before I can remember. 1.00

00:21:47.000 Monzon was a bad motherfucker. 0.99

00:21:49.000 Wasn't he from Argentina? 1.00

00:21:50.000 Yeah.

00:21:50.000 He was.

00:21:51.000 Beautiful.

00:21:52.000 Yeah.

00:21:52.000 He was a tough guy, man.

00:21:53.000 Those were the blood and guts days of boxing.

00:21:56.000 You know?

00:21:57.000 Roberto Duran, Ken Buchanan at lightweight.

00:22:00.000 135 pound killers.

00:22:02.000 It was a different world back then, man. 1.00

00:22:04.000 Those guys were tough as shit. 0.99

00:22:05.000 15 round fights. 1.00

00:22:07.000 Comedy's different, though.

00:22:08.000 I was always there.

00:22:09.000 There was a point where I thought generally overall... 0.94

00:22:13.000 Just black people are way funnier than white people. 1.00

00:22:15.000 Based on stand-up comedy, I'm like, Richard Pryor, Eddie Murphy, you know? 0.94

00:22:21.000 I really believe that.

00:22:22.000 And, like, Mexican comedians, I wasn't, like, rooting for Paul Rodriguez. 1.00

00:22:25.000 I was like, fuck you! 1.00

00:22:27.000 I didn't root. 1.00

00:22:28.000 Some people do.

00:22:28.000 Yeah, I know some people do, but I didn't.

00:22:31.000 I was racist against white comedians. 0.99

00:22:35.000 That fuckmancia more than anything. 0.99

00:22:36.000 When people found out he wasn't really Mexican. 0.98

00:22:39.000 They were like, what?

00:22:40.000 He's Honduran, right?

00:22:42.000 Honduran and German or something.

00:22:43.000 Yeah.

00:22:44.000 Did he ever claim Mexican on stage?

00:22:47.000 Yes.

00:22:48.000 Yes.

00:22:49.000 Many times.

00:22:50.000 He was like an Andrew Dice Clay.

00:22:53.000 I think he was kind of raised by Mexican people, though.

00:22:55.000 He should have said that.

00:22:56.000 He said, listen, this is my character.

00:22:59.000 You can't change your name, man.

00:23:00.000 I'm Carlos Mencia.

00:23:01.000 Andrew Dice Clay.

00:23:03.000 Yeah, but that's, first of all, that's like a character name.

00:23:06.000 But I'm saying, like, you change your ethnicity. 0.99

00:23:08.000 Like, if I decided to put tape on my eyes and change my name to Joe Chan, people would be like, what?

00:23:15.000 Right?

00:23:15.000 You can't do that.

00:23:16.000 If I try to claim German, right?

00:23:20.000 You don't know any better.

00:23:22.000 You've never seen my 23 in me.

00:23:23.000 Or maybe you did like a Borat character.

00:23:24.000 Could you do German accent, not Arnold Schwarzenegger?

00:23:28.000 That's Austrian.

00:23:29.000 Oh, okay.

00:23:30.000 I could probably do one if I listen to some German.

00:23:35.000 But Arnold's so easy.

00:23:38.000 I can't do Trump, man.

00:23:41.000 You can't do Trump?

00:23:42.000 No, I can't do it.

00:23:43.000 My voice doesn't make those sounds.

00:23:45.000 I'm not a good impressionist.

00:23:47.000 I'm just good at the ones that I can do.

00:23:49.000 What does Arnold think of Trump?

00:23:51.000 Basically, we've had this conversation before.

00:23:53.000 He's not a bad guy.

00:23:54.000 He's just a guy.

00:23:55.000 Oh, that's right.

00:23:56.000 We already did this.

00:23:59.000 Listen, he's doing what everybody wants.

00:24:01.000 He's making billions. 1.00

00:24:01.000 He's fucking porn stars. 1.00

00:24:03.000 And you're mad at him? 1.00

00:24:05.000 This is the fucking American dream. 1.00

00:24:08.000 For real though, who looks like him and fucks like he does? 1.00

00:24:12.000 I'm a little bit more impressed with Donald after all these scandals. 0.99

00:24:15.000 It backfired.

00:24:16.000 You guys are trying to go Clinton on him.

00:24:17.000 You can't go Clinton on this guy. 1.00

00:24:18.000 He's not trying to fuck kids. 0.99

00:24:20.000 Here's the thing about Roseanne Barr. 0.99

00:24:23.000 They were saying that Roseanne Barr was talking about some conspiracy theories that have been disproven.

00:24:32.000 She was talking about Trump breaking up child sex rings.

00:24:36.000 But he really did spend a lot of time concentrating on that and having people go out and try to break up these sex rings and sex trafficking.

00:24:47.000 This is not something that is a conspiracy theory.

00:24:49.000 This is something that he's discussed many times.

00:24:52.000 It's also not a conspiracy that there's sex trafficking.

00:24:56.000 So as much as you want to discount Trump, here's a problem that I have with people that are on the left right now.

00:25:01.000 They're not looking at everything.

00:25:04.000 They're only looking at what they want to look at.

00:25:06.000 He's bad for the environment.

00:25:07.000 He's always lying. 0.97

00:25:09.000 He cheats on his wife.

00:25:10.000 He does this.

00:25:10.000 He does that.

00:25:11.000 They say all these things he does bad, but when something comes up like Roseanne says, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt because he's going after sex trafficking. 0.99

00:25:20.000 And then it turns out, all these other people say, that's a conspiracy theory, that's a bullshit online. 0.97

00:25:24.000 No, he's said it. 0.97

00:25:25.000 He's put effort into it.

00:25:27.000 Like, you've got to give the guy credit.

00:25:28.000 Because if you don't give him credit for things that he does that are important, nobody's going to listen to you when you're criticizing him either.

00:25:34.000 Because all you're trying to do is win.

00:25:36.000 You're not trying to look at the thing for what it really is.

00:25:39.000 Yeah, this guy, he's not a perfect person.

00:25:41.000 But he did.

00:25:43.000 Make note on many times about wanting to break up sex trafficking rings.

00:25:48.000 Do you know that your kid is 20,000 times more likely to get kidnapped than to get shot at a school?

00:25:57.000 Do that make sense?

00:25:58.000 Yeah.

00:25:58.000 And 20,000 is conservative.

00:26:00.000 It's probably really like 70,000 because if you go by the numbers, 800,000 to a million kids go missing every year in the United States.

00:26:08.000 I looked that up though.

00:26:10.000 I never found a source for that.

00:26:11.000 You said that before and I looked that up and I couldn't find that.

00:26:14.000 It wasn't nearly as much.

00:26:15.000 You know what?

00:26:15.000 I read it online so it could be wrong.

00:26:17.000 It could be wrong. 0.97

00:26:18.000 There's a problem with these things like when we say them, especially we say them like right now 2 million people are going to listen to this or whatever the fuck it is. 0.93

00:26:23.000 Even if it's 100,000 kids. 0.96

00:26:26.000 Even if it's 100. Even if it's 100 kids.

00:26:27.000 Yeah, 100 kids, that's more than school shootings.

00:26:29.000 That's my point.

00:26:30.000 It's more than school shootings.

00:26:31.000 Right.

00:26:31.000 Like, what would you rather have?

00:26:33.000 You know, what's worse?

00:26:34.000 I don't know what's worse.

00:26:35.000 Having your kid get shot at school?

00:26:37.000 Is it Eddie Wright?

00:26:37.000 Look at this.

00:26:38.000 According to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, citing U.S. Department of Justice report, nearly 800,000 children are reported missing each year.

00:26:45.000 That's more than 2,000 a day.

00:26:48.000 The NCMEC says 203,000 children are kidnapped each year by family members.

00:26:53.000 Oh, family members.

00:26:55.000 That's a little different.

00:26:56.000 That leaves 600,000.

00:26:57.000 Yeah.

00:26:58.000 That leaves 600,000.

00:26:59.000 So what's worse?

00:27:00.000 That's crazy.

00:27:01.000 Having your kid, because the conspiracy theory is that there's this giant...

00:27:09.000 International child sex trafficking network going on that is being covered up.

00:27:13.000 That's what's going on.

00:27:14.000 And if you look at Jimmy Savile in the UK, that brought a lot of light to what's going on.

00:27:19.000 Savile, right?

00:27:20.000 Is that how you say his name?

00:27:20.000 Savile.

00:27:21.000 Savile?

00:27:21.000 Yeah.

00:27:22.000 Jimmy Savile.

00:27:23.000 That was a terrifying story.

00:27:24.000 Yeah, so the story with him is Jimmy Savile, he's dead now.

00:27:27.000 He died in his 80s in 2011. He was a...

00:27:32.000 A super famous, like Dick Clark kind of guy.

00:27:35.000 He was the host of Top of the Pops.

00:27:40.000 If your band got on that show, you're going to be mega.

00:27:43.000 He was huge.

00:27:44.000 He was friends with the royal family, with the prime ministers, Margaret Thatcher, Tony Blair.

00:27:50.000 Pull up a picture of him, Jamie. 0.96

00:27:51.000 He looks disgusting. 0.75

00:27:52.000 Pull up Jimmy Savile, this guy. 1.00

00:27:53.000 He looks like a child molester. 0.99

00:27:55.000 Look at this guy. 1.00

00:27:56.000 Imagine getting fucked by that guy when you were 12. Super, super famous. 1.00

00:28:03.000 And you know what he would do?

00:28:05.000 He would raise money for hospitals and specifically psychiatric hospitals.

00:28:11.000 And he would bring the Queen of England.

00:28:14.000 He had all this power to raise millions for these hospitals, these mental institutions.

00:28:20.000 That's what he preyed on.

00:28:21.000 For kids.

00:28:22.000 For kids.

00:28:22.000 So what he would do is he would...

00:28:25.000 He would do so much for these hospitals that he would put himself on the board and give himself a job there in a position and he would hang out at these hospitals.

00:28:31.000 There's at least 500 people that have come forward to say they were raped by him when they were at a...

00:28:39.000 Is it 500 people now?

00:28:40.000 At least.

00:28:41.000 It's in the thousands.

00:28:42.000 What does that sign say that he's holding up on his neck?

00:28:43.000 What does that say?

00:28:46.000 Oh, that was his show.

00:28:47.000 He worked for the BBC. Super famous, super...

00:28:52.000 He had Christmas dinner with Margaret Thatcher multiple times.

00:28:58.000 What is that red hat he's got that looks like a MAGA hat?

00:29:00.000 Right above that.

00:29:02.000 Yeah.

00:29:03.000 Just a hat. 1.00

00:29:05.000 Crazy guy who, it turns out, he was a child rapist. 1.00

00:29:09.000 Yeah, and that's the same thing with Sandusky. 1.00

00:29:13.000 And they're covering it up.

00:29:14.000 They're covering it up.

00:29:15.000 The question is...

00:29:16.000 Still they're coming this up?

00:29:17.000 Oh, dude.

00:29:17.000 This?

00:29:18.000 Yes.

00:29:18.000 Because people knew they're complicit and they'd be in trouble.

00:29:21.000 The mystery. 1.00

00:29:22.000 The mystery is how is he so tight with the prime ministers, the royal family, all these politicians, all this shit comes out when he died. 0.98

00:29:32.000 Because every time there would be an allegation while he was alive, he would just sit them down and go, what are you going to do? 0.99

00:29:37.000 I'm going to ruin your life. 1.00

00:29:39.000 You better drop this shit. 1.00

00:29:40.000 Do you think they're gonna come after me? 1.00

00:29:42.000 You know how many millions I've given this hospital?

00:29:44.000 So he would just shut everything down and there was all these underground covered up allegations.

00:29:48.000 He admitted getting knighthood was a relief because it got me off the hook.

00:29:53.000 What does that mean?

00:29:54.000 Got me off the hook.

00:29:55.000 He was knighted.

00:29:56.000 Right.

00:29:57.000 So it got him off the hook.

00:29:58.000 What do you think?

00:29:59.000 How crazy is that?

00:29:59.000 He got knighted.

00:30:00.000 When you get knighted, can they not arrest you anymore?

00:30:02.000 Is that what happens?

00:30:03.000 Is it like being the president?

00:30:04.000 Yeah.

00:30:05.000 There's a documentary on YouTube called The Ninth Circle.

00:30:09.000 Jimmy Savile, The Ninth Circle.

00:30:11.000 You find out why they covered it up.

00:30:14.000 Why did they cover it up?

00:30:15.000 Why didn't this agent DJ, it's like Dick Clark.

00:30:18.000 They should have just mashed him up.

00:30:19.000 Why was it all being covered up? 0.98

00:30:21.000 It's fucking insane when you find out why. 0.96

00:30:24.000 He had enthusiasm for dead bodies in general that could be unnerving. 1.00

00:30:27.000 Dude, he fucked dead people. 1.00

00:30:28.000 What? 1.00

00:30:29.000 He loved fucking dead people. 1.00

00:30:30.000 Where'd you hear this? 1.00

00:30:32.000 The Ninth Circle.

00:30:33.000 The Ninth Circle.

00:30:34.000 Jesus Christ.

00:30:35.000 On YouTube.

00:30:36.000 Watch that.

00:30:36.000 Jesus Christ.

00:30:38.000 It's insane.

00:30:39.000 It's insane. 1.00

00:30:40.000 When you find out, when you watch that shit, dude, It is crazy that you're saying this, and it sounds like it could never be possible. 1.00

00:30:54.000 It sounds like it never could be possible that some giant television star that worked with children and was always helping out children could have actually been fucking them the whole time. 0.99

00:31:03.000 And a bunch of them, hundreds of them. 0.99

00:31:05.000 Raping them.

00:31:06.000 And then people must have known. 0.57

00:31:08.000 There's no way everybody...

00:31:10.000 He was killing them, too.

00:31:11.000 He was killing them?

00:31:12.000 Dude, they found all these bodies.

00:31:14.000 It's a big scandal in the UK right now.

00:31:18.000 They found bodies?

00:31:20.000 Jesus Christ. 1.00

00:31:22.000 There's an island called Jersey Island that's owned by the Queen, and look into that shit. 1.00

00:31:27.000 I don't even want to get that deep into it. 1.00

00:31:30.000 Jimmy Savile raped children as young as nine while working at BBC. Leaked report unveils, and this is in the Independent...

00:31:38.000 How come there's not the same kind of effort for this kind of stuff like there is with the gun shooting, the Florida school shooting?

00:31:47.000 Why isn't there that?

00:31:48.000 Because it's not a big event where it's one thing where all the deaths happen in one group.

00:31:52.000 It's deaths or deaths, dude.

00:31:53.000 Well, I understand.

00:31:54.000 I'm with you.

00:31:55.000 I understand.

00:31:55.000 But, I mean, this is also why people don't freak out about 500,000 people dying every year because of obesity.

00:32:00.000 Like, what's worse?

00:32:01.000 What's worse? 1.00

00:32:02.000 Having your kid get shot at a school shooting or having that motherfucker rape your daughter multiple times and then kill her? 1.00

00:32:11.000 I don't think you want to quantify them. 1.00

00:32:12.000 They're both horrible. 0.99

00:32:13.000 They're both horrible. 1.00

00:32:14.000 What's scary is that that is being protected. 0.90

00:32:18.000 Yes. 0.98

00:32:19.000 That there's someone that either knew about it and now is trying to cover their ass because they knew about it. 0.98

00:32:24.000 A lot of people. 0.98

00:32:25.000 That's the thing about Sandusky.

00:32:27.000 You know, Sandusky did the same thing. 0.84

00:32:28.000 He was raping all these kids and the whole time he was running these programs for underprivileged children and helping all these orphaned kids. 0.92

00:32:36.000 You gotta watch your kids, man. 0.99

00:32:38.000 He allegedly got away with abusing 500 children and sex with dead bodies. 0.99

00:32:44.000 Whoa. 0.99

00:32:44.000 Hanging out with the queen, dude. 0.99

00:32:46.000 This guy's tight with the queen.

00:32:47.000 Look at him, too.

00:32:49.000 God.

00:32:51.000 And all these little kids around him.

00:32:53.000 You know what?

00:32:53.000 I'm going to tell you why they left him alone.

00:32:56.000 Do you know?

00:32:58.000 According to the Ninth Circle.

00:32:59.000 What is the Ninth Circle?

00:33:00.000 It's a documentary about the whole thing.

00:33:03.000 Why?

00:33:04.000 Because everybody's doing it?

00:33:05.000 They're all doing it?

00:33:06.000 He was supplying everybody with kids.

00:33:09.000 That's what he used the hospitals for.

00:33:11.000 Well, this is not a new theory.

00:33:13.000 This is not a new theory when it comes to like groups of freaks.

00:33:16.000 He was the pimp, dude.

00:33:18.000 Yeah.

00:33:18.000 He was supplying everybody with kids.

00:33:20.000 This is something that people have talked about, like very intelligent people that I know that have talked about in terms of like, there's been stories about people that have taken politicians to like islands and shit because that's where they keep like young girls. 0.97

00:33:35.000 You know, I don't know why I'm looking at you, Jamie. 0.86

00:33:37.000 You know what?

00:33:40.000 Someone talked to me about this and they were saying you have to understand that if you are in a group of incredibly wealthy people and you have extreme a desire for extreme sexual scenarios whips and you can't whatever the fuck it is you can't young girls you can't let anybody know about this so people come into these people's lives that can facilitate these things and then they develop this sort of bond of silence and And this is how, 0.96

00:34:08.000 when this shit gets out of hand, you can get a Jimmy Savile or you can get a Jerry Sandusky. 0.95

00:34:13.000 That's the other thing about Sandusky. 0.99

00:34:15.000 This guy was not on his own.

00:34:17.000 He was supplying children.

00:34:19.000 Tip of the iceberg.

00:34:20.000 Wasn't that one of the things?

00:34:21.000 That doesn't come up.

00:34:23.000 Google Sandusky was supplying children to other pedophiles because that was something that was also speculated about some of the donors that were donors to his charities.

00:34:34.000 We're also somehow involved in molesting those kids.

00:34:36.000 You know what a death ride is?

00:34:38.000 Death ride?

00:34:39.000 Death ride.

00:34:40.000 No.

00:34:41.000 Jimmy Savile would supply 10, 15 boys to a certain politician.

00:34:48.000 He'd have a boat.

00:34:49.000 He'd take them out on the boat.

00:34:51.000 He couldn't afford to have any witnesses.

00:34:54.000 So those were always the last rides those kids would take.

00:34:57.000 They're called death rides.

00:34:58.000 Jeez.

00:34:59.000 They couldn't have witnesses.

00:35:00.000 This is from that same documentary?

00:35:02.000 Ninth Circle.

00:35:02.000 See, but how do they know that for a fact?

00:35:05.000 You just got to watch it and make the...

00:35:09.000 Conclusion.

00:35:10.000 Yeah.

00:35:10.000 Well, I'm not ruling it out.

00:35:13.000 He's already a shitbag, so you got to look at him like a prosecuting attorney, not a defense lawyer. 1.00

00:35:17.000 He's already a shitbag. 1.00

00:35:18.000 He's already confirmed. 1.00

00:35:20.000 He's already raping kids. 1.00

00:35:21.000 What's the stopper from killing kids? 1.00

00:35:22.000 Exactly.

00:35:23.000 Exactly. 0.99

00:35:23.000 Yeah, I mean, that's a good point, because if you're the type of person that could rape a child, what can't you do? 0.99

00:35:28.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:35:28.000 And that's what I'm saying. 0.98

00:35:29.000 In the UK, the numbers could be wrong, but I heard that every three seconds, a child is reported missing in the UK. That's 175,000 kids a year get reported missing in just the UK. It's a big business,

00:35:45.000 man.

00:35:46.000 It's got to be more than that amount of seconds in a year, isn't it?

00:35:49.000 Every three seconds at 175,000?

00:35:52.000 That seems low.

00:35:53.000 Every three minutes.

00:35:54.000 I'm sorry.

00:35:55.000 Not every three seconds.

00:35:56.000 I'm sorry.

00:35:57.000 That's crazy.

00:35:58.000 How many seconds are in a day?

00:36:00.000 I'm sorry.

00:36:01.000 Every three minutes.

00:36:02.000 Every three minutes.

00:36:03.000 This is according to something I saw.

00:36:05.000 31 million seconds in a day?

00:36:09.000 Yeah.

00:36:10.000 I'm sure the numbers are probably... 0.99

00:36:12.000 175,000 isn't as big as 800,000 a year, but damn. 0.97

00:36:17.000 That should be... 0.97

00:36:18.000 Think about all this, all what we're doing for the Florida shooting and for these shootings and with that David Hogg guy.

00:36:25.000 Come on, man.

00:36:26.000 That's what's scary is that people are buying all that stuff.

00:36:29.000 Buying all what stuff?

00:36:34.000 The whole gun control propaganda, you know, it's so obvious. 0.98

00:36:38.000 It's ridiculous. 0.99

00:36:40.000 It's ridiculous. 0.99

00:36:41.000 What do you think the gun control propaganda is? 0.98

00:36:43.000 It's really simple, man.

00:36:45.000 You have to disarm the population, and that's what they're doing inch by inch, trying to disarm it.

00:36:53.000 They used to say, oh no, we just want some restrictions and some background checks. 0.97

00:36:58.000 Now they're just saying it.

00:36:59.000 Some people are saying, revoke the Second Amendment.

00:37:02.000 Yeah, they're tearing the Constitution.

00:37:05.000 They're tearing the Constitution?

00:37:07.000 Those four kids?

00:37:08.000 Those four kids?

00:37:09.000 There's a Constitution?

00:37:09.000 No, no, no, they weren't.

00:37:10.000 They weren't.

00:37:11.000 That's not true.

00:37:11.000 No?

00:37:11.000 No, that's Photoshopped.

00:37:12.000 Oh, it is?

00:37:13.000 Okay.

00:37:13.000 There's an original image that that girl was tearing.

00:37:16.000 It was like a target.

00:37:17.000 She was saying, we're not a target.

00:37:19.000 And someone replaced that image with the Constitution.

00:37:21.000 Okay.

00:37:21.000 But they're essentially doing the same thing.

00:37:23.000 Yeah, no, I know what you're saying.

00:37:25.000 Look, first of all, they're 17. They were at a school that got shot up.

00:37:29.000 Their friends died.

00:37:30.000 I get it from their point of view.

00:37:31.000 If I was 17, I would think, and also they got cameras in their face, and everybody's paying attention to them, and the New York Times is interviewing on the Washington Post.

00:37:39.000 Everyone's calling them up.

00:37:39.000 If I was them, I'd probably be doing the same thing.

00:37:41.000 You would probably, too. 0.99

00:37:42.000 If you were in high school with those kids and all that shit went down, I don't blame them by any stretch of the imagination. 0.98

00:37:48.000 I don't even blame people that are trying to revoke the Second Amendment. 0.98

00:37:51.000 The thing that infuriates me the most is that all people want to look at is the guns.

00:37:56.000 That's all they want to look at. 0.99

00:37:58.000 You need to look at the mental health of individuals that are willing to fucking shoot up a group of kids. 0.99

00:38:03.000 Like, why? 1.00

00:38:04.000 Why the fuck would someone do that? 0.99

00:38:06.000 Psychiatric medications are a big one that if you bring up, people roll their eyes like, oh, this again. 1.00

00:38:11.000 There are massive changes to the fucking chemical composition of your brain when you take these things. 0.99

00:38:18.000 What you're capable of doing, what bothers you, what freaks you out, what you don't give a shit about. 0.99

00:38:23.000 When you got all these people that are on SSRIs and antidepressants and anti-anxiety medication and over and over and over again, when they test these shooters, They all test positive for something. 0.99

00:38:32.000 The pharmaceutical companies do not want to fucking hear about this. 0.94

00:38:36.000 They don't want to talk about this. 0.99

00:38:38.000 Phil Hartman, my friend who got shot by his wife, she was on Zoloft.

00:38:41.000 They got a settlement from Zoloft. 0.99

00:38:43.000 The family got a settlement from Zoloft after she fucking shot him in the head while he was sleeping. 0.99

00:38:48.000 There's a lot going on. 0.99

00:38:50.000 It's not just guns. 1.00

00:38:51.000 It is crazy that that fucked up kid could get guns. 1.00

00:38:54.000 It is crazy. 1.00

00:38:55.000 It's crazy that the FBI went to his house two years before, but what can you do?

00:39:00.000 Did you hear about that kid that they just stopped, the Chinese immigrant kid they're sending back? 0.99

00:39:05.000 His roommates in college were saying, this fucking guy's stockpiling guns. 0.99

00:39:09.000 The cops went to visit him. 1.00

00:39:10.000 He went out and bought another gun, and he's talking all kinds of crazy shit, and everybody's nervous about him. 1.00

00:39:14.000 Like, he's a fucking shooter ready to happen. 1.00

00:39:17.000 Stop going to class, and that's how they sent him back. 1.00

00:39:20.000 Because he's on a student visa.

00:39:21.000 You can't not be in class.

00:39:23.000 This kid was like gearing up.

00:39:25.000 He was gearing up.

00:39:26.000 Maybe they caught it before it happened and maybe they wouldn't have like two years ago when they interviewed the kid from Parkland.

00:39:34.000 Now, the strangest thing about that Parkland shooting is the interview one of the teachers did on ABC. This doesn't make any sense to me at all.

00:39:47.000 It's like she said...

00:39:50.000 I have the video.

00:39:51.000 I could send it to you.

00:39:52.000 It's less than a minute.

00:39:53.000 She says, I opened up, I heard shots, opened up the door, all the kids ran in, they hid behind their desk, and there I saw the shooter 20 feet away from me.

00:40:05.000 But at first, I thought he was a policeman.

00:40:07.000 I'm like, what is the police doing here?

00:40:09.000 He had full body armor, a mask on, a helmet on, and was shooting.

00:40:14.000 I was like, what are the cops doing here?

00:40:18.000 That is the strangest video I've seen.

00:40:21.000 Was it possibly someone shooting at the kid?

00:40:25.000 That's not what she said.

00:40:26.000 She said she saw the shooter.

00:40:27.000 Right, but I mean, how long was she watching for?

00:40:30.000 Right, if you're like looking out the window and you see someone that's shooting someone, or shooting a gun, or even holding a gun. 0.99

00:40:35.000 First of all, you have to realize that people in those traumatic situations, their memory is very fucked up. 0.98

00:40:40.000 It's very shaky. 0.98

00:40:41.000 Your brain's flooded with adrenaline.

00:40:43.000 You remember, you're open to suggestion.

00:40:45.000 People can put things in your head and you all of a sudden think that that was a real memory that you saw.

00:40:49.000 There's been like scientific studies on that.

00:40:51.000 And about suggestive memory and about someone can literally, especially during periods of great duress, they can introduce ideas into your head and you will tell those ideas hours later, days later, as your own.

00:41:05.000 And you don't even realize that they put them in your head.

00:41:07.000 It's real weird. 0.99

00:41:09.000 Memory in traumatic situations like gun shootouts and shit like that is haywire because you're working on that reptilian part of your brain. 0.98

00:41:18.000 You're down to the lowest level. 0.99

00:41:20.000 Like, my friend Steve Rinella got attacked by a grizzly bear.

00:41:24.000 He was in a Fognac Island.

00:41:26.000 It's a crazy podcast.

00:41:27.000 Him and these other guys, they had killed an elk, and they were packing this elk out, and they left the elk by the tree while they were at their camp.

00:41:34.000 Then they went to go back, and a bear had claimed the elk.

00:41:36.000 And this bear rushed them, and he was like, one of the ways he described it to me is like, you have an idea in your head of what an animal instinct is like.

00:41:46.000 And he goes, I'm telling you, this goes way deeper than that.

00:41:48.000 This goes, wait, when you really think your life is in danger, you really think it's over, you don't even exist anymore.

00:41:54.000 You're moving.

00:41:55.000 You have no idea what you're doing.

00:41:57.000 You have to piece together what happened afterwards, and you were barely there in the first place.

00:42:02.000 You're just gone.

00:42:04.000 You're gone.

00:42:05.000 You see somebody else like, da-da-da-da-da-da-da! 0.99

00:42:07.000 You have no fucking idea who you even are right there and then. 1.00

00:42:11.000 All these people that are like, I would have run in the building and kicked that fucking guy's ass. 1.00

00:42:14.000 You barely even know who you are. 1.00

00:42:16.000 You got this video?

00:42:17.000 Really?

00:42:18.000 Oh, I sent you the video of that.

00:42:23.000 People have to understand memory. 1.00

00:42:25.000 Well, let's listen to her and then let's see if she sounds like she's full of shit. 1.00

00:42:30.000 Okay, let's hear what she says. 0.99

00:42:33.000 I actually sent you the actual clip.

00:42:37.000 This is not it?

00:42:38.000 I sent you one, right?

00:42:39.000 On your phone.

00:42:42.000 That's the lady, but I don't know when she's gonna say... 0.73

00:42:45.000 Well, let's just play it, because we don't hear it.

00:42:47.000 We're not hearing it, Jamie.

00:42:49.000 Oh, okay.

00:42:50.000 Writing love letters when the fire alarm went off.

00:42:54.000 As students filed into the hallway, she heard gunfire.

00:42:57.000 The killing had begun.

00:42:59.000 I was about two feet away from my door.

00:43:01.000 All of a sudden, I heard gunshots in the stairwell, which is about 20 feet away from my room.

00:43:06.000 And then kids were screaming and then running back towards me and towards the end of the hallway.

00:43:11.000 So I just went in this very strange autopilot mode where I pivoted on my feet.

00:43:16.000 I unlocked my door and the kids just started pouring in my room.

00:43:19.000 I don't know how many kids were in there, but I was pulling them and getting them in and shouting at them to get in the room.

00:43:24.000 And then I suddenly saw the shooter, about 20 feet from me, standing at the end of the hallway, actively shooting down the hallway, just a barrage of bullets.

00:43:32.000 And I'm staring at him thinking, why is the police here?

00:43:36.000 This is strange because he's in full metal garb, helmet, face mask, bulletproof armor, shooting this rifle that I've never seen before.

00:43:48.000 I don't know.

00:43:49.000 That sounds like someone who saw something.

00:43:51.000 Yeah.

00:43:52.000 That sounds like she got a very good look at it.

00:43:54.000 Yeah, there's another video of a girl saying, yeah, we heard shots and we're running through the hallway.

00:44:00.000 And then I run into Nicholas Cruz and I looked at him and I told him, Mike, isn't it weird that everyone thought this was going to be you?

00:44:06.000 And then he just stood there and then we ran off because we heard more shots.

00:44:11.000 What?

00:44:12.000 It doesn't make any sense.

00:44:14.000 Doesn't make any sense.

00:44:16.000 And that stuff, those videos get taken down.

00:44:18.000 Those videos get taken down.

00:44:19.000 But that video is not taken down.

00:44:21.000 They've been taken down.

00:44:22.000 When they find them, there's people actively taking down witness testimony that doesn't go with the official narrative, man.

00:44:29.000 So you think that this is like a false flag?

00:44:31.000 Like someone went in there, shot up the school?

00:44:34.000 They do it all the time, dude.

00:44:35.000 That's what they do.

00:44:36.000 And then they focus on it.

00:44:37.000 They had this Nicholas Cruz guy, and they go, oh, we got a perfect guy.

00:44:41.000 So they come in, they have a professional team, they drag a Nicholas Cruz, they do what they got to do, they throw him in there, arrest him, and go, we got him.

00:44:49.000 And then everyone buys it.

00:44:50.000 That's what's going on.

00:44:51.000 In my opinion.

00:44:53.000 But this is a...

00:44:54.000 This is a crazy opinion, right?

00:44:56.000 Because you weren't there.

00:44:57.000 I'm not the only one saying this.

00:44:59.000 I'm sure.

00:45:00.000 But every time there's any sort of mass event, some horrible event, there's always conspiracies.

00:45:06.000 You know?

00:45:10.000 What was going on right before this was the release of the FISA document.

00:45:16.000 What's the FISA document?

00:45:18.000 The FISA document was a document that Trump released and got zero play from mainstream media.

00:45:28.000 And it was a document that showed that A lot of really important people in government from all the agencies were all colluding together to take down Trump.

00:45:43.000 And there's text messages and emails.

00:45:45.000 They're going back and forth.

00:45:46.000 They all work together with Hollywood, using Hollywood.

00:45:51.000 So FISA document was about to get dropped and everyone was saying, wait, they're backed into a corner.

00:45:57.000 They're going to pull something off.

00:45:59.000 Watch.

00:46:00.000 Here it comes.

00:46:00.000 They're going to pull off.

00:46:01.000 There's going to be a shooting or something.

00:46:03.000 Wait for it.

00:46:03.000 Here it comes.

00:46:04.000 And then boom.

00:46:05.000 So as soon as it happened, the reason why conspiracy theorists were going, that's it.

00:46:09.000 And look at all the mistakes.

00:46:10.000 Look at all the testimony that doesn't make any sense that they're ignoring like that. 0.98

00:46:15.000 The thing that gets me is there's so many fuck-ups in that shooting as a false flag or like all these witness testimony that doesn't make any sense that to me, I think they did it on purpose to keep all the conspiracy theorists busy because there's so much shit that's clear to keep everyone away. 0.96

00:46:36.000 That doesn't make any sense. 0.98

00:46:37.000 To keep everybody away from the FISA document.

00:46:39.000 But you know what? 0.97

00:46:40.000 It's also possible the people that were at that shooting, their memories all fucked up because there was somebody shooting people. 0.97

00:46:45.000 That's a real thing. 0.95

00:46:47.000 Like, that's 100%.

00:46:48.000 Did she sound like she didn't know what she was talking about?

00:46:50.000 She didn't sound like it then, but that wasn't when the shooting was going down. 0.99

00:46:53.000 When you see people, like, right when they've seen some shit, their brains scrambled. 0.98

00:47:00.000 That's something to have to take into consideration, especially some nice lady, probably never saw anybody get shot in their life, probably never saw much violence. 1.00

00:47:07.000 Yeah, maybe.

00:47:08.000 Maybe.

00:47:08.000 I don't know.

00:47:09.000 There's two sides of it.

00:47:10.000 There's people that believe the official story, and then there's people that see it as, oh, this was the false flag to distract from the FISA document.

00:47:19.000 Listen, I'm not saying that false flags don't exist.

00:47:21.000 I mean, you and I have discussed on this podcast in great detail the most important false flag, which is Operation Northwest.

00:47:27.000 Yeah, if they're willing to do that, they're willing to do anything.

00:47:30.000 Well, it's not...

00:47:31.000 This is also the problem.

00:47:33.000 When we say they...

00:47:34.000 Operation Northwoods was 1962. The question is, if that's how they did business back then, which is what they did.

00:47:40.000 I mean, Operation Northwoods, they were planning on attacking Guantanamo Bay with Cuban, going to arm Cuban friendlies, have them attack Guantanamo Bay. 0.82

00:47:49.000 They were going to sacrifice American lives. 0.92

00:47:50.000 They were going to blow up a drone jetliner, blame it on the Cubans. 0.98

00:47:53.000 All this was to get us enthusiastic about going to war with Cuba.

00:47:57.000 Yeah.

00:47:57.000 They were going to sacrifice American lives.

00:47:59.000 This is 100%. 1.00

00:48:00.000 They were going to lie and fake shit. 1.00

00:48:02.000 Which is normal. 1.00

00:48:03.000 For empires.

00:48:04.000 For all countries.

00:48:05.000 This is just a normal...

00:48:06.000 False flags are...

00:48:07.000 It's nothing new.

00:48:08.000 It's been going on since the dawn of time.

00:48:10.000 Right.

00:48:10.000 False flags...

00:48:11.000 It's old school. 0.99

00:48:12.000 The question is, and this is for the rational person who's like, this is ridiculous. 0.82

00:48:16.000 You have to wonder, is that evolved, right?

00:48:20.000 Everything evolves.

00:48:21.000 The way we use technology evolves.

00:48:24.000 The way we use literature evolves.

00:48:26.000 The way we use TV evolves.

00:48:28.000 Everything evolves.

00:48:29.000 Does that evil corruption in government evolve, too?

00:48:33.000 Or does it just somehow or another get snuffed out because of the light?

00:48:36.000 I don't buy that.

00:48:37.000 I don't buy that.

00:48:38.000 If you look at all the different things that we've shown that there's collusion in, just look at the fact that someone like Hillary Clinton can run for president while she was making hundreds of thousands of dollars giving speeches to banks.

00:48:49.000 Like when she was in that debate with Bernie Sanders, and Bernie Sanders was like, release his transcripts.

00:48:53.000 Tell us what you said. 0.99

00:48:55.000 Tell us what you said to those nice banker people that gave you half a million dollars or whatever the fuck they gave you. 1.00

00:48:59.000 That's insane. 0.99

00:49:00.000 To think that someone was like, listen, dude, she is so fucking entertaining. 0.90

00:49:04.000 We're going to give her $250,000 for an hour. 1.00

00:49:07.000 It's worth it!

00:49:08.000 Trust me, I know we're in the banking business, and I know we make money with money.

00:49:13.000 You know what I mean?

00:49:13.000 We're all about money.

00:49:14.000 We know the value of money.

00:49:15.000 We're in the banking business.

00:49:17.000 This lady talking is worth a quarter million dollars. 1.00

00:49:20.000 It's the best.

00:49:21.000 She's gonna go up there, she's gonna knock your socks off. 1.00

00:49:24.000 She's so good.

00:49:25.000 She's amazing.

00:49:26.000 And she's funny!

00:49:28.000 She's hilarious.

00:49:29.000 Oh my, she's amazing. 0.99

00:49:30.000 Her speech is super well prepared.

00:49:33.000 It's so worth it. 1.00

00:49:33.000 And she stands up there on the podium and just knocks your fucking dick into the dirt. 1.00

00:49:37.000 What is this? 1.00

00:49:38.000 Hillary Clinton gets humiliating $7,000 less than Snooki for a speech at Rutgers as her story grows old.

00:49:46.000 Oh, wow.

00:49:47.000 So she got her price slashed to $25,000.

00:49:50.000 I think they're going to throw her under the bus. 1.00

00:49:52.000 Her standard fee was $200,000 per speech, but some folks suggest that it may be her broken record that set the recent slash price of $25,000.

00:50:03.000 She made so much money off the Clinton Foundation.

00:50:05.000 She's fine.

00:50:06.000 Just stop and think about that.

00:50:07.000 She's just fine.

00:50:08.000 She's like, I'll do it for a thousand. 0.99

00:50:09.000 Dude, I got fucking a hundred million from that Haiti earthquake. 0.98

00:50:12.000 Are you getting me? 0.98

00:50:13.000 Yeah, but those people, people like her, I think one of the things in the back of their head is always the potential litigation. 0.60

00:50:19.000 I think they always want to stockpile legal funds because someone could always come after them.

00:50:23.000 Yeah.

00:50:23.000 And plus they get used to it.

00:50:24.000 They're like, damn. 0.99

00:50:25.000 They're like, you know, if you had a hundred million and now you have, you know, 75 million, you're like, oh my God. 1.00

00:50:32.000 I got to take some odd jobs and shit. 0.99

00:50:35.000 Do some speeches in Saudi Arabia. 0.89

00:50:37.000 Listen, it should be illegal for someone to run for president, if someone who they could influence in a positive way with passing things and signing legislature, pushing things forward, using their influence, if someone is in a position that they could do that for a company and that company wants to give you $200,000 to talk, 0.96

00:50:56.000 that's just fucking insane. 0.97

00:50:58.000 That's insane. 1.00

00:50:59.000 That's bribery.

00:51:00.000 Are you saying that it's worth $200,000? 1.00

00:51:02.000 If she sucked every dick in the room, it wouldn't be worth $200,000, right? 1.00

00:51:07.000 There's no way! 1.00

00:51:07.000 Who's gonna pay a thousand dollars for a Hillary Clinton blowjob other than for the story? 1.00

00:51:12.000 I think she can get a lot of money for blowjobs. 1.00

00:51:14.000 Do you think so? 1.00

00:51:14.000 Dude, I think fucking... 1.00

00:51:15.000 Alt-right guys would just be fucking throwing down, dude. 1.00

00:51:20.000 Busting, having bukkakis. 1.00

00:51:22.000 You know what I mean?

00:51:22.000 Do a bukkake for...

00:51:25.000 This feels like a disrespectful turn we're taking with Hillary Clinton.

00:51:28.000 Yeah, I'm sorry.

00:51:29.000 As a person, forget about it as a woman. 1.00

00:51:31.000 Just as a politician.

00:51:32.000 No one should be...

00:51:33.000 It should just be impossible.

00:51:35.000 There's a conspiracy theory that...

00:51:38.000 Hillary Clinton's father, Hugh Rodham, I'm assuming he's not alive anymore, but was a huge Jewish mob boss who was responsible for opium going into Chicago. 0.87

00:51:52.000 I don't know if that's real, but it makes sense to me.

00:51:56.000 Look, we know for a fact that some politicians have run drugs before.

00:52:00.000 The Bushes?

00:52:01.000 Look at them.

00:52:01.000 Here's the biggest one.

00:52:02.000 The fucking Kennedys. 1.00

00:52:04.000 Open. 1.00

00:52:04.000 Open, flat out. 1.00

00:52:06.000 I mean, it was moonshine at the time, but guess what?

00:52:09.000 That's drugs. 0.78

00:52:10.000 Yeah, same thing.

00:52:11.000 That's as much of a drug as weed.

00:52:12.000 Worse than weed.

00:52:13.000 It's worse.

00:52:13.000 Way worse.

00:52:14.000 I mean, that is how the Kennedy family made their money.

00:52:17.000 We needed a president to run marijuana. 1.00

00:52:19.000 How cool would that have been?

00:52:21.000 Tommy Chong for president.

00:52:21.000 Jimmy Carter was like, he was just doing, he just stuck to marijuana.

00:52:25.000 Tommy Chong for president.

00:52:26.000 Tommy's got diversity on his side.

00:52:29.000 Cheech could be the running main.

00:52:31.000 Cheech and Chong, 2020. Guys, get on it.

00:52:33.000 I'll have you on the podcast.

00:52:34.000 I'll support you 100%.

00:52:35.000 If you think about all the stuff the government was willing to do over time, like Operation Northwood, for instance, they were willing to kill their own people. 0.99

00:52:47.000 There's a lot of corruption, bribery, a lot of shit in the government, right? 0.98

00:52:51.000 If you had to equate that to one person, you could say the U.S. government is kind of like John Gotti. 1.00

00:52:57.000 Right?

00:52:58.000 Right.

00:52:58.000 Kinda, right?

00:52:59.000 Yeah, a little bit.

00:53:00.000 A little bit. 0.70

00:53:00.000 Like, killed some people. 0.70

00:53:01.000 Yeah, for sure. 0.99

00:53:02.000 Killed some people if they cross them. 0.98

00:53:03.000 Definitely mob bossy.

00:53:04.000 Yeah, a lot of scamming going on, a lot of stealing.

00:53:07.000 He's kind of like a politician.

00:53:09.000 He's kind of like the overall, you know, how could anybody trust Anything he would say, right?

00:53:16.000 Yeah, and anytime someone would say a dude like a Some John Gotti nerd came up because dude, you know, he killed 15 people one night in Miami.

00:53:24.000 You wouldn't go dude Where's the proof?

00:53:27.000 Where's the proof? 0.98

00:53:28.000 Show me you wouldn't say that you would go you believe it and even if it wasn't true He's like it's still a douchebag. 0.99

00:53:33.000 He's still a criminal. 1.00

00:53:34.000 You're still killing people.

00:53:35.000 So yeah, you were wrong about that I was actually, you know traffic Conte and it wasn't you know, but still you know what I mean?

00:53:41.000 People just naturally, when it comes to the government, they know how corrupt they are.

00:53:45.000 They know that they're willing to kill their own people.

00:53:48.000 Politicians aren't waking up going, how am I going to make everyone's lives better?

00:53:52.000 So all those speeches you hear, they're not thinking about helping.

00:53:57.000 They're thinking about keeping their power. 0.71

00:54:00.000 They're criminals. 0.95

00:54:01.000 That's what's going on.

00:54:02.000 Well, they're in a business, and this business has criminal rules.

00:54:06.000 They've allowed them to have these criminal rules.

00:54:08.000 It's all about how can every politician, they're all trying to get a hold of that tax money.

00:54:14.000 Oh, that's the endgame right there.

00:54:19.000 You get that tax money.

00:54:21.000 You could steal tax money, and people were never going to come after you.

00:54:24.000 You steal corporation money, you're going to die.

00:54:26.000 Yeah, they don't even get mad if you steal tax money.

00:54:28.000 Yeah, the tax money.

00:54:29.000 It's like, just come up with a bill.

00:54:30.000 Come up with something.

00:54:31.000 Anything.

00:54:32.000 Just anything.

00:54:33.000 Okay, this bill is to build churches, and we're going to help children around the world, and we're going to find a cure for leukemia. 1.00

00:54:42.000 Fuck yeah! 0.99

00:54:43.000 Cool. 1.00

00:54:44.000 Boom.

00:54:44.000 It's really easy.

00:54:45.000 You just got to make up some shit. 0.99

00:54:46.000 You got to pretend that you're going to help people. 0.99

00:54:48.000 Oh, this one's the Affordable Housing Act.

00:54:51.000 You know, we're going to help out poor people.

00:54:53.000 Like that politician's really trying to help.

00:54:55.000 What they're trying to do is rip off tax money. 1.00

00:54:57.000 That's it.

00:54:58.000 It's all...

00:54:58.000 Well, they're allocated.

00:54:59.000 Move it to the people that they want to have it to.

00:55:02.000 Yeah.

00:55:02.000 It's a dirty business.

00:55:04.000 I'm hoping that that changes in the future.

00:55:06.000 I think the way...

00:55:10.000 We are being programmed and indoctrinated.

00:55:12.000 I think it's genius.

00:55:13.000 It's working so goddamn well because it works on really smart people. 0.99

00:55:18.000 There's intelligent people all over the goddamn world. 0.98

00:55:21.000 Because people are invested in the system. 0.99

00:55:22.000 Everybody's invested in the system.

00:55:24.000 The indoctrination, the school system, man.

00:55:27.000 School really is designed to take the kids from the family.

00:55:32.000 The kids believe their teachers more than their own parents.

00:55:36.000 The state takes your kids.

00:55:38.000 They're raising their kids. 1.00

00:55:41.000 It's ridiculous, man. 0.97

00:55:43.000 I think most of what's going on in schools is not that. 0.97

00:55:46.000 I think most of it is people that are just totally apathetic about teaching people. 0.99

00:55:50.000 They don't give a fuck. 0.99

00:55:52.000 Most of these people that are teaching, they're doing it as a job, there's a lot of terrible fucking teachers out there, and they don't get paid anything. 1.00

00:55:59.000 That's the big conspiracy that it's not. 0.98

00:56:01.000 They're taught and told how to teach and what to teach.

00:56:03.000 Sure.

00:56:03.000 They're not like, okay, just give us your own version of English.

00:56:07.000 Right, but this is all put together with educators.

00:56:08.000 They get together and try to figure out a way to get people to learn these things.

00:56:11.000 It's uninspired.

00:56:12.000 That's more than anything.

00:56:15.000 There's no money to it.

00:56:16.000 The conspiracy theory is that Rockefeller, John Rockefeller and Carnegie designed the school system to create slaves and to separate the family.

00:56:25.000 That's the conspiracy theory.

00:56:26.000 The conspiracy theory is they designed to create workers, right?

00:56:30.000 Yeah.

00:56:30.000 People that are slaves to the system.

00:56:33.000 The conspiracy theory is they openly said, we don't need any more Geniuses.

00:56:38.000 Philosophers or geniuses.

00:56:39.000 We got enough of that.

00:56:40.000 We got science right here.

00:56:43.000 We got any science you need, come to us.

00:56:45.000 When was the last great scientific discovery in the last 40 years that wasn't government funded?

00:56:54.000 I don't know who's funding these studies.

00:56:57.000 Why do you think that they're government funded? 0.99

00:56:59.000 Some new shit they come out with. 1.00

00:57:01.000 I don't know. 1.00

00:57:02.000 See, I don't know.

00:57:03.000 No one can name anything.

00:57:04.000 Well, I don't know.

00:57:05.000 I mean, we'd have to go over some of the studies, but I'm sure a lot of them are not government funded.

00:57:09.000 I'm assuming that most scientists are getting paychecks from the government.

00:57:14.000 I'm just assuming that.

00:57:16.000 I'm assuming that most scientific data is coming from a bunch of scientists who...

00:57:23.000 Getting grants. 0.99

00:57:24.000 Yeah, they're getting grants, and they can't say crazy shit. 0.92

00:57:29.000 I sent you that one email, that one guy was telling me that he worked for a team of scientists, and they're working for a pesticide company, and they're told to, they go, we're going to do some studies here, and we want it to look like this. 0.94

00:57:40.000 And let's keep doing it, let's keep doing the studies until, boom, we get, oh, look!

00:57:44.000 Well, that's legal.

00:57:44.000 They can do that, yeah.

00:57:45.000 That is insane.

00:57:47.000 That's insane.

00:57:48.000 They keep doing a study until they get the results they want, and then they don't publish the bad studies, they only publish the good studies, and this is what they've done.

00:57:54.000 It seems like there's basically, in a nutshell, like three kinds of science.

00:57:59.000 There's the pseudoscience.

00:58:01.000 It's like pretend science, but for sure it's not real.

00:58:04.000 It's false science.

00:58:05.000 And then there's the scientific facts.

00:58:07.000 Like, for sure.

00:58:09.000 It's a scientific fact that I can get on the internet with my iPhone.

00:58:12.000 I don't need to read a study about it.

00:58:14.000 And say, oh, I actually can.

00:58:16.000 I know it.

00:58:17.000 My friends know it.

00:58:18.000 That's a scientific fact.

00:58:19.000 Another scientific fact is my car will take me to point A, to point B, to point C, over and over, and it may break down every now and then.

00:58:26.000 That's a fact.

00:58:27.000 The science of my car, I believe that science.

00:58:30.000 That's a scientific fact.

00:58:31.000 And then there's a science that you have to take the scientist's word for because there's no way that you can verify.

00:58:38.000 If you have to have faith in science, that's like a religion.

00:58:42.000 That's scientism.

00:58:43.000 Hold on a second.

00:58:44.000 What are you talking about?

00:58:45.000 Like what particular subject?

00:58:46.000 Any kind of science, whether it's medical science.

00:58:49.000 If you have a choice to believe in science that you can't verify yourself, you could believe it, but you don't have to believe it.

00:58:57.000 Right, but the experts in the field verify it.

00:58:59.000 All the people that understand and study it verify it.

00:59:02.000 All the science that we know that has been corrupted, just the big ones.

00:59:06.000 Sugar science, tobacco science.

00:59:08.000 Marijuana science.

00:59:10.000 Vaccine science.

00:59:11.000 We know for sure, just those four, that there's been a lot of corruption, and so it's hard to trust.

00:59:16.000 So when someone comes out, especially the government, and goes, yeah, our scientists say that it's safe and effective. 0.98

00:59:22.000 You gotta be like, damn, I don't know about that. 0.99

00:59:25.000 I'm not gonna just take your fucking word for it. 1.00

00:59:27.000 You know what I mean? 1.00

00:59:28.000 You guys are criminals. 1.00

00:59:29.000 You're John Gotti. 0.99

00:59:29.000 And you guys are saying that this is safe and effective? 0.99

00:59:32.000 I don't know about that.

00:59:34.000 Maybe it is.

00:59:35.000 I hope it is.

00:59:37.000 I don't know.

00:59:38.000 I don't know because I can't prove it for myself.

00:59:40.000 Oftentimes drugs that get passed as being safe and they turn out to not be safe.

00:59:44.000 Exactly.

00:59:44.000 This is one of the problems with these studies.

00:59:46.000 Exactly.

00:59:46.000 This is like what we were talking about earlier with that nobody wants to discuss the idea that psychotropic drugs have played a part in school shootings.

00:59:54.000 This is all a very recent thing with human beings.

00:59:57.000 If those kids really didn't.

00:59:59.000 But they're talking about the recent spike in shootings, even by people they know were mass shooters.

01:00:03.000 Those people are almost all on these pills.

01:00:05.000 But these pills are very recent.

01:00:07.000 They leave Big Pharma alone.

01:00:09.000 Yeah, so when you're talking about just the history of human beings involved in mass killings, It's really recent. 0.99

01:00:16.000 They're crazy.

01:00:16.000 It's ramping up.

01:00:17.000 It's going crazy.

01:00:18.000 Yeah, well, you know what also is ramping up?

01:00:19.000 People taking pills.

01:00:20.000 Yeah.

01:00:21.000 These things are somehow, they might not be the cause of it 100%.

01:00:24.000 It might be society.

01:00:26.000 It might be suppression.

01:00:27.000 It might be terrible childhood rearing.

01:00:30.000 It might be childhood abuse.

01:00:32.000 It might be all sorts of mental health issues that are inherited.

01:00:36.000 All sorts of crazy diseases that people inherit. 0.83

01:00:38.000 Mental diseases.

01:00:39.000 In the vaccine pamphlets, I think the HPV vaccine, girls are taking it at 10, 11, and 12. Man, the shit that it says in the pamphlet. 1.00

01:00:49.000 That's a dangerous one, too. 1.00

01:00:50.000 One possible side effect is suicidal thoughts.

01:00:53.000 It's called impending doom.

01:00:57.000 I watched Take Your Pills last night, that documentary on Netflix that's been going around.

01:01:01.000 How is it?

01:01:02.000 It's pretty good.

01:01:03.000 There's not a lot of information.

01:01:04.000 That's not the Adderall one, is it?

01:01:06.000 No, it is, yeah.

01:01:06.000 It is, yeah.

01:01:07.000 So there's not a lot of information we don't already know, I feel like.

01:01:09.000 They just kind of compile it and make it look really good.

01:01:11.000 But one interesting thing that you just brought up, Dr. Cezanet, there's no side effects to pills.

01:01:17.000 There's just unintended...

01:01:19.000 Benefits or non-benefits that you want.

01:01:21.000 They're all effects.

01:01:22.000 There's no like side effect of like diarrhea for instance.

01:01:25.000 It's an effect of the pill.

01:01:26.000 Just wasn't what you wanted.

01:01:27.000 I see what you're saying.

01:01:29.000 So don't call it side effect.

01:01:30.000 Call it an effect.

01:01:32.000 Right, so if you take something and on some people it gives suicidal thoughts.

01:01:36.000 It's not a side effect.

01:01:37.000 It's just an effect of taking that pill.

01:01:39.000 Yeah, there's girls wanting to kill themselves for taking the HPV vaccine. 1.00

01:01:44.000 Not just that, for taking acne medication.

01:01:47.000 Accutane is a big one for that.

01:01:48.000 Dude, come on!

01:01:49.000 Do you know Andrew Santino?

01:01:51.000 Hilarious comedian?

01:01:52.000 Nuh-uh. 1.00

01:01:52.000 Funny motherfucker. 1.00

01:01:53.000 He took Accutane when he was, what did he say, in high school? 1.00

01:01:55.000 Is that what he said?

01:01:57.000 It was like the best thing that ever happened to him because his face totally cleared up, but the worst thing that ever happened to him in terms of how it made him feel.

01:02:04.000 It makes you feel a lot of people get it and they get suicidal thoughts.

01:02:08.000 Yeah, for sure.

01:02:09.000 So you've got to ask yourself, even if whether kids really are shooting up schools or it's a false flag and they're setting up the kids to do it, that's the other side.

01:02:21.000 Whatever the truth is there...

01:02:25.000 There's a gigantic problem with these pills that are making people crazy.

01:02:30.000 And no one really...

01:02:31.000 This is not a big push to stop it or anything.

01:02:33.000 They're being protected.

01:02:34.000 They are, but there's a giant business in it.

01:02:37.000 There's billions of dollars for sure.

01:02:38.000 But there's also a lot of people that like those pills.

01:02:41.000 There's a lot of people that love Xanax.

01:02:43.000 Like, this is, again, this is one of those things where we always want to look at the bad side of it.

01:02:47.000 A lot of people love crack, too.

01:02:50.000 Crack business.

01:02:50.000 You could get thrown in jail for that.

01:02:52.000 Yeah.

01:02:53.000 No, for sure.

01:02:54.000 But I mean, people that are functional people, just how you like weed, I like weed.

01:03:00.000 Some people like Xanax.

01:03:01.000 I'm not saying you can't have that.

01:03:03.000 It's not my opinion.

01:03:05.000 That's not how I feel.

01:03:06.000 What I am saying is, like, we need to be honest about the consequences of all these things.

01:03:11.000 And that this is somehow another left out of the equation when I think it's a major part of the equation. 0.97

01:03:16.000 I don't think it's the only reason why people are shooting up schools or any of this shit. 0.97

01:03:20.000 But I think it absolutely must be playing a factor. 0.97

01:03:24.000 And for whatever reason, people don't want to consider that factor.

01:03:27.000 And I think some of it is because there's a lot of people out there who like those pills.

01:03:32.000 They like the way they feel on antidepressants.

01:03:34.000 They like the way they feel on anti-anxiety medication.

01:03:36.000 They like taking Ambien before they go to bed.

01:03:38.000 They don't want to hear.

01:03:40.000 They like what it gives them.

01:03:41.000 I know people who can't sleep without Ambien.

01:03:44.000 They can't sleep without it.

01:03:45.000 And if you tried telling them that Ambien fucks up your heart rate or does this to that or, you know, make up some things.

01:03:51.000 I don't know if it fucks up your heart rate.

01:03:52.000 I'm just saying that.

01:03:53.000 If you started saying that to people, they would just immediately tune out.

01:03:56.000 Whatever, dude.

01:03:57.000 I'm sleeping like a baby.

01:03:58.000 You know what would be a great false flag is if they set up another shooter and just said he was totally stoned.

01:04:04.000 That way they could reverse the legalization of weed.

01:04:09.000 Of course, it's a joke.

01:04:10.000 Do you know what I started smoking then that changed my mind?

01:04:15.000 They have the power in the media to turn it into that.

01:04:18.000 All of a sudden, these guys are getting really high in Colorado and California.

01:04:22.000 We need a...

01:04:25.000 It's a joke, okay?

01:04:26.000 It's not funny.

01:04:27.000 That wouldn't work today.

01:04:29.000 I've been smoking blunts, and I smoked them.

01:04:31.000 I was like, okay, now I understand rap music.

01:04:34.000 I was like, these rappers are so aggressive, but they're also high. 0.99

01:04:37.000 I'm like, what the fuck's going on? 1.00

01:04:38.000 It's the goddamn tobacco. 1.00

01:04:40.000 Tobacco mixed in with weed? 1.00

01:04:42.000 That is a different thing.

01:04:43.000 That's a different animal.

01:04:44.000 It's a little too potent sometimes.

01:04:46.000 It's a little too, woo!

01:04:48.000 You're like, what are we talking about?

01:04:50.000 I like it every now and then.

01:04:51.000 Every now and then, I like it.

01:04:53.000 I'm like, you know what?

01:04:53.000 It gives you a different kind of head buzz.

01:04:56.000 Well, tobacco gives you...

01:04:57.000 Donald Cerrone got me on the dip when he was not...

01:05:01.000 I haven't done it since then.

01:05:02.000 But when we were in the podcast, he did it.

01:05:03.000 I swallowed some of it.

01:05:05.000 But one thing I liked about it, I was like, oh, now I get why you guys do it.

01:05:09.000 It hypes you up.

01:05:10.000 It gets you kind of elevated.

01:05:12.000 You ever smoke a cigar?

01:05:15.000 Maybe two.

01:05:16.000 It's a powerful version of a cigarette. 1.00

01:05:18.000 Like you're getting some serious fucking nicotine in your system when you smoke a fat stogie. 0.99

01:05:24.000 You got a big ol' fuckin' Hoyo de Monterey double Corona. 1.00

01:05:28.000 Fidel Castro style. 1.00

01:05:30.000 By the time you get to the end of that thing, you're high as fuck, dude. 0.99

01:05:33.000 You're not high like you can't talk, or like you can't walk, or you can't function, but you're definitely feeling that tobacco. 0.99

01:05:41.000 It's doing something to your system.

01:05:43.000 And they say it actually has a cognitive enhancing function.

01:05:47.000 That's similar to nootropics and coffee as well.

01:05:51.000 It actually can make you perform better in tests if you smoke cigarettes or if you smoke a cigar.

01:05:58.000 And writers always say that.

01:05:59.000 I know a lot of people who write, like writers for sitcoms and stuff like that, those guys always smoke cigarettes when they write.

01:06:04.000 They say they can't write without smoking.

01:06:07.000 Stephen King said that.

01:06:08.000 It's like they're weed.

01:06:09.000 Yeah.

01:06:09.000 Well, it does have something going on, man.

01:06:12.000 But to me, it's more like amped than it is creative.

01:06:18.000 Weed is super creative.

01:06:20.000 Weed makes me think of thoughts where I write them down.

01:06:22.000 I'm like, I can't even claim that.

01:06:24.000 That's not even my thought.

01:06:25.000 That's weed's thought.

01:06:26.000 You know what I mean?

01:06:27.000 Yeah.

01:06:27.000 Like, I would have never just leave me by myself with no drugs and a notebook.

01:06:32.000 I would have never come up with that idea.

01:06:34.000 But the weed's like, hey, man, listen to this.

01:06:36.000 Bah! 0.97

01:06:37.000 You know, the weed is way more of like an idea steroid.

01:06:44.000 I believe it.

01:06:45.000 Dude, I see people who don't smoke weed and they write, and I'm like, oof, you're so brave.

01:06:51.000 Out there with no helmet, you got no life preserver on.

01:06:55.000 And now it's crazy legal everywhere.

01:06:58.000 That's amazing.

01:06:59.000 This recreational weed in California, it's insane.

01:07:02.000 You just walk...

01:07:03.000 Nine states now.

01:07:04.000 Yeah, crazy.

01:07:05.000 I think 18 states have legal medical and nine states have legal recreational.

01:07:10.000 Nine.

01:07:11.000 Massachusetts.

01:07:12.000 Yeah, it's a wave.

01:07:13.000 It's going across the whole country.

01:07:14.000 It's changing everything.

01:07:15.000 And it's good.

01:07:16.000 And you know what the next wave is?

01:07:18.000 MDMA. MDMA therapy for PTSD patients has unprecedented results.

01:07:24.000 Really?

01:07:24.000 MAPS is involved in this.

01:07:26.000 What is it?

01:07:27.000 Multiple Disciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies or something like that.

01:07:32.000 MAPS is an amazing, really above-board organization that is at the forefront of legalization of psychedelics and of psychedelic research.

01:07:42.000 And they've been involved in studies of soldiers, and they have amazing results with this stuff.

01:07:47.000 MDMA just lets you forgive yourself.

01:07:49.000 It lets you forget everything.

01:07:51.000 It reprograms your brain.

01:07:53.000 It lets you forgive other people in your life.

01:07:56.000 It changes.

01:07:57.000 One hit.

01:07:59.000 of mdm mdm mdma that always confuses me molly it's a lot easier one hit can change your uh taste in music forever forever i believe it because before i ever did it the first time i did it was 1997 and before that i was a dj at this point And I couldn't stand techno.

01:08:22.000 I hated techno music so much.

01:08:24.000 And I was a DJ. And any time a girl went on stage and she was a techno girl, I'm like, this is...

01:08:28.000 Because I play drums for real.

01:08:30.000 So when you listen to techno or house, it's like... 1.00

01:08:33.000 That's the most basic dumb shit. 1.00

01:08:36.000 Every song. 1.00

01:08:38.000 Every fucking drum beats the same. 1.00

01:08:40.000 I couldn't accept it as a musician. 0.99

01:08:42.000 And most musicians feel that way about techno.

01:08:44.000 And I went to a birthday party at the Key Club in Hollywood and I walk in and upstairs is techno and downstairs in the little bottom club is hip hop.

01:08:53.000 And it was a birthday party and everyone was downstairs and me and my buddy Rick, we walk in and we're standing at the edge of the techno floor.

01:08:59.000 And there's like all these dudes just like dancing by themselves.

01:09:02.000 And there's like mental cases, right? 0.99

01:09:05.000 And I was just standing there looking at him going, what the fuck is wrong with these people? 0.99

01:09:10.000 Oh my God. 0.99

01:09:11.000 So I went downstairs, they're playing hip hop.

01:09:13.000 I'm like, that's what I want to hear at clubs.

01:09:15.000 I want to hear hip hop at a club.

01:09:16.000 I want to dance with a girl, not by myself.

01:09:19.000 You know, so I'm downstairs and then they start passing around some Molly and some say, you want to do it?

01:09:24.000 And I'll never forget that.

01:09:25.000 That first one was blue.

01:09:27.000 I'm like, whew.

01:09:28.000 I don't know.

01:09:29.000 I don't know.

01:09:30.000 So I took it, me and my buddy both took it, and it hit us. 0.99

01:09:34.000 That first hit just hits you like a fucking ton of bricks. 0.98

01:09:38.000 We go upstairs, and we're on the dance. 1.00

01:09:40.000 We're dancing like morons, dude. 0.99

01:09:43.000 And we're looking at each other and go, you get it? 1.00

01:09:45.000 He goes, I get it!

01:09:45.000 I go, you get it!

01:09:46.000 I get it!

01:09:47.000 And from that point on, got all into trance.

01:09:50.000 From that point, and it wasn't just like that night.

01:09:52.000 It changed my musical taste in one hit.

01:09:57.000 And I had a friend at the club who was a total R&B dude.

01:10:00.000 He hated techno. 0.99

01:10:01.000 And he would talk shit when I played techno. 0.99

01:10:03.000 I go, one day, you're gonna do some Molly and you're gonna be all into techno. 1.00

01:10:07.000 He goes, fuck you, that'll never happen. 1.00

01:10:09.000 I can't stand this music. 1.00

01:10:10.000 He starts dating the raver chick, like six months later at the club, some raver chick.

01:10:15.000 He ends up at a rave.

01:10:16.000 He ends up dropping some Molly.

01:10:17.000 He starts coming in and bringing all these new techno CDs and he's all into it.

01:10:22.000 Full blown into trance and techno.

01:10:25.000 Just one hit. 0.71

01:10:25.000 This is the real problem. 0.71

01:10:27.000 It's illegal. 0.99

01:10:27.000 So when you get it from someone, you don't know what the fuck you're getting. 0.99

01:10:30.000 That's the real problem with Molly. 1.00

01:10:31.000 That's the real problem with MDMA. It's also the dosage.

01:10:34.000 You don't know what the dosage is supposed to be.

01:10:36.000 Look, you can overdose on alcohol and alcohol is everywhere, but everybody knows what the dose of alcohol is.

01:10:41.000 If you go to a bar and you get a shot of Jack Daniels, you know what that is.

01:10:45.000 It's not like sometimes you get a shot of Jack Daniels and it's Jack Daniels. 0.97

01:10:49.000 Sometimes you get it and it's super fucking moonshine at 17 times You get stronger and you die. 0.97

01:10:55.000 That's the problem with heroin. 0.92

01:10:57.000 That's the problem with a lot of things.

01:10:58.000 The real problem with MDMA seems to be that it's illegal.

01:11:02.000 That's the real problem.

01:11:03.000 And what they're finding is that there's great benefits if it's used correctly.

01:11:08.000 I mean, anything could be abused, but that doesn't mean we should make it illegal.

01:11:11.000 And what they want to do, I think their timeline is somewhere around 2021. Making it legal for therapy.

01:11:20.000 It's going to change the world.

01:11:21.000 It's going to change everything.

01:11:23.000 It's going to change the way people feel about the past.

01:11:25.000 It's going to change the way people interact with each other.

01:11:28.000 You're going to know just by people's behavior whether or not they've ever done it or not.

01:11:31.000 You know where it comes from?

01:11:32.000 Where MDMA comes from?

01:11:35.000 The part of it, the active ingredient that takes you...

01:11:38.000 It's a plant, right?

01:11:40.000 Where's that plant at?

01:11:41.000 It's in Thailand or...

01:11:46.000 It's like a bark.

01:11:46.000 What's Cambodia?

01:11:48.000 It's in Cambodia.

01:11:49.000 It's like the bark, like the...

01:11:51.000 Something about the root of a tree trunk or something.

01:11:54.000 It has something to do with a tree.

01:11:56.000 Jamie's pulling it up, but it becomes very dangerous for those people, right?

01:11:59.000 The trafficking becomes crazy.

01:12:01.000 They fuck up forests like forests are being chopped down just for the... 0.92

01:12:06.000 Not only that, people are being murdered. 0.99

01:12:07.000 It's heavy-duty stuff.

01:12:08.000 Is it sassafras?

01:12:10.000 I don't know.

01:12:11.000 Is that what it says?

01:12:11.000 I googled it and just looked at the images and that's what's popping up.

01:12:14.000 Maybe put MDMA Cambodia trees.

01:12:19.000 Is it sassafras?

01:12:20.000 Okay, maybe that is.

01:12:21.000 Sassafras and saffroli.

01:12:23.000 Sassafras, yeah.

01:12:24.000 I guess it's sassafras.

01:12:26.000 Dude, it's a plant.

01:12:27.000 Whatever that plant is, they take the...

01:12:29.000 Just Google Vice, the making of ecstasy.

01:12:33.000 Because I'm pretty sure Vice did this.

01:12:34.000 Could you Google that, please?

01:12:35.000 I think Vice had a special on that.

01:12:39.000 I wonder what would happen if you just ate it raw.

01:12:42.000 I wonder.

01:12:43.000 Can you do that?

01:12:47.000 Is there a special?

01:12:50.000 What does it say?

01:12:52.000 The truth about ecstasy.

01:12:54.000 Yeah, so there's some sort of vice episode where they grow this stuff.

01:13:00.000 Anyway, this should be something that's not distributed by criminals wearing ski masks like you've seen in this video.

01:13:08.000 It should be something distributed by stores.

01:13:10.000 And there should be doctors.

01:13:12.000 And if you wanted to, you could have a rave where you even have medical centers in the rave where you keep people from overdosing.

01:13:17.000 Yeah.

01:13:17.000 When there's a transitionary period from people going from drugs being totally illegal to some drugs having massive benefits.

01:13:25.000 Like if you go to a club, right, and everyone there is, come on, we're doing shots, we're doing shots. 0.98

01:13:30.000 The whole fucking bar is getting wasted and drunk. 0.98

01:13:32.000 Everybody's fine with that, but you're not fine with a club where everybody does a small amount of ecstasy. 1.00

01:13:37.000 Well, why can't you do that?

01:13:38.000 Well, that's drugs.

01:13:39.000 Well, the other one's drugs, too.

01:13:40.000 You're just used to those drugs.

01:13:42.000 Once we get past that hurdle, and it might take a whole generation before people get used to places where you can go.

01:13:47.000 One drug gets you violent.

01:13:48.000 One drug makes you want to have sex.

01:13:51.000 But listen, you're not going to stop that drug.

01:13:53.000 Here's my point.

01:13:53.000 It's a powerful, really useful drug.

01:13:56.000 People are going to find out about it.

01:13:57.000 It's an amazing experience.

01:13:58.000 They're going to do it.

01:13:59.000 So what's the best way to handle that?

01:14:01.000 Best way to handle it is make it safe.

01:14:03.000 Make it legal. 1.00

01:14:04.000 Make it regulated so they know what actually is in each one of these fucking pills. 1.00

01:14:08.000 You're not getting it from some pimp or some asshole or some fucking crazy dude who stuffed it in a balloon and put it up his asshole and made it across the border with it. 1.00

01:14:16.000 You don't know where the fuck you're getting this stuff from. 1.00

01:14:18.000 And they cut it with all sorts of shit too. 1.00

01:14:19.000 All sorts of shit. 1.00

01:14:20.000 Amphetamines and all sorts of crazy shit. 1.00

01:14:22.000 And people die from it because they don't know what the fuck is in there. 1.00

01:14:25.000 Here it is. 1.00

01:14:28.000 Okay, it says M-R-E-A-H-P-R-E-W-P-H-N-O-M trees.

01:14:36.000 M-R-E-A-H-P-R-E-W-P-H-N-O-M trees.

01:14:37.000 M-R-E-A-H-P-R-E-W-P-H-N-O-M trees.

01:14:39.000 M-R-E-A-H-P-R-E-W-P-H-N-O-M trees.

01:14:40.000 M-R-E-A-H-P-R-E-W-P-H-N-O-M trees.

01:14:50.000 M-R-E-A-W-P-R-E-W-P-H-N-O-M trees. 0.98

01:14:52.000 M-R-E-A-W-P-R-E-W I mean, there's got to be some shit where they haven't tapped into it yet. 1.00

01:15:01.000 They're finding all sorts of different pharmaceutical drugs that they concoct out of stuff. 0.98

01:15:06.000 In the Amazon?

01:15:08.000 Yeah.

01:15:08.000 Isn't it something like insects are evolving so fast in the Amazon that they only have names for, I think, 10% of the insects.

01:15:20.000 90% they have no name.

01:15:21.000 No, it's crazy.

01:15:22.000 Is that true?

01:15:22.000 They have all sorts of bugs in the Amazon for sure that they haven't identified.

01:15:25.000 They know that for a fact and they do evolve.

01:15:28.000 They're a rare thing where you can, there's like some primitive life forms you could find that didn't exist before.

01:15:33.000 Like they found this crayfish, I think it's in India or Europe, maybe Europe, crayfish that produces by cloning.

01:15:41.000 They don't have sex.

01:15:43.000 So female, they're all female. 1.00

01:15:45.000 And one crayfish just makes a bunch of other babies. 0.99

01:15:47.000 Just makes babies. 1.00

01:15:48.000 She doesn't need sex. 1.00

01:15:49.000 She doesn't need sex. 1.00

01:15:50.000 And they're like, what the fuck? 1.00

01:15:52.000 I mean, obviously there's no genetic diversity, right? 0.99

01:15:54.000 Because they obviously would need a male DNA to mix with the female DNA. There it is. 1.00

01:15:59.000 Mutant crayfish clones itself and it's taking over Europe. 1.00

01:16:02.000 So this crayfish doesn't fuck. 1.00

01:16:04.000 They just reproduce. 1.00

01:16:06.000 Like one crayfish could just reproduce.

01:16:09.000 It's really bananas.

01:16:10.000 So this is a new thing that didn't exist 25 years ago.

01:16:14.000 This is something that they are very sure wasn't a living organism up until recently.

01:16:20.000 Here's a good thing.

01:16:21.000 Crayfish are delicious.

01:16:22.000 People are starving to death. 0.99

01:16:24.000 Now they got some motherfuckers that all you have to do is just throw some stuff in there. 1.00

01:16:27.000 You don't have to count on them fucking. 1.00

01:16:28.000 Maybe it's the same stuff that made the frogs gay. 1.00

01:16:32.000 Could be. 0.86

01:16:32.000 Could be, bro. 0.86

01:16:33.000 Maybe it's linked.

01:16:34.000 Could be, bro.

01:16:36.000 I mean, it could be.

01:16:37.000 It could be pesticides. 1.00

01:16:39.000 Look, there's another thing about the amount of people that flush pills down the toilet and how much that shit goes through water treatment plants and into aqueducts and into reservoirs and shit. 1.00

01:16:50.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:16:51.000 There's a lot of pills that get flushed down our toilets, and some of them make it into rivers and shit. 0.98

01:16:56.000 Some of them make it into the ocean. 0.98

01:16:58.000 You know what's supposed to be particularly bad?

01:16:59.000 I never thought about this until a friend of mine who was a surfer told me.

01:17:02.000 He was a yoga teacher who was a surfer and said nobody told him and he got real sick because he went into the ocean right after the rain.

01:17:09.000 You can't go to the ocean after the rain. 0.83

01:17:10.000 Because when it rains in LA, all that bullshit, all the chemicals and toxins and cleaners and oil and gasoline and plastic washes into the water, like right at the shore. 0.90

01:17:23.000 And that's where it's all just swashing around in there with the waves. 1.00

01:17:26.000 And you get in there and you get sick as fuck. 0.99

01:17:29.000 You're basically getting poisoned. 0.99

01:17:31.000 Is there some kind of filtration system before they just let all the water just run right into the ocean?

01:17:36.000 It runs right from the streets.

01:17:38.000 From the runoff.

01:17:39.000 Just from the streets.

01:17:41.000 Where does the toilet water go?

01:17:43.000 Toilet water goes through a sewage system.

01:17:45.000 Different system.

01:17:46.000 Yeah, it goes through a sanitation system. 0.95

01:17:48.000 But sometimes those break.

01:17:50.000 I was at the Charles River in Boston once, and it was right across the street from where I lived.

01:17:56.000 And I'd hang out there all the time when I was a kid.

01:17:58.000 And I was standing there on the shore, and I saw these bubbles and these chunks of things floating up to the water. 0.99

01:18:04.000 And I was like, what the fuck is that? 0.99

01:18:06.000 And then I saw a condom. 1.00

01:18:08.000 Bloop, come up.

01:18:10.000 And I went, oh, that's a sewer pipe. 1.00

01:18:12.000 They're flushing condoms and like shit and condom water. 1.00

01:18:17.000 It's coming right through the fucking ground into this river where all these fish live. 1.00

01:18:22.000 These fish are probably living off of human shit. 1.00

01:18:25.000 What's the water like after the sewage water runs through the filtration system? 1.00

01:18:29.000 What is that water like?

01:18:30.000 Perfect.

01:18:31.000 And where does it go?

01:18:31.000 Fiji bottles.

01:18:32.000 Does it go into Fiji?

01:18:34.000 $2.99 for eight ounces.

01:18:37.000 Based on what I saw online, it seems like Fiji water is the best water out there.

01:18:42.000 It's pretty good. 0.99

01:18:43.000 They tested a lot of bottled water, and a lot of bottled water has a lot of bullshit in it. 0.99

01:18:49.000 Look at this. 0.99

01:18:49.000 After 50 years, Boston's Charles River just became swimmable again. 0.99

01:18:53.000 Took $500 million and nearly two decades of work.

01:18:56.000 Here's how the city did it.

01:18:58.000 That's it, man.

01:18:59.000 That was the river that's connected to...

01:19:01.000 That river went all the way down near my house.

01:19:05.000 Why was it so polluted? 0.98

01:19:06.000 People are gross. 1.00

01:19:08.000 Dude, when people started building shit in the 1800s, they didn't give a fuck about the future. 1.00

01:19:12.000 They took that sewer pipe and went just lay it right there and pump it right into the fucking ocean. 1.00

01:19:17.000 I'm going to take a shit right in that water. 1.00

01:19:19.000 It's going to go shooting down that pipe. 1.00

01:19:21.000 And drop right on a fish's head. 0.91

01:19:22.000 Who cares? 1.00

01:19:23.000 They didn't give a fuck. 0.99

01:19:24.000 When they were building things, they would have all their industrial runoff just go right into rivers. 0.99

01:19:28.000 They polluted thousands of rivers. 1.00

01:19:30.000 Like, who the fuck knows how many fish died because people in the early days of the Industrial Revolution were fucking assholes. 1.00

01:19:36.000 They didn't have any consequences. 1.00

01:19:37.000 They didn't think about the possibility of completely destroying the environment.

01:19:42.000 Like, that didn't exist before the age of the industrial machines. 0.95

01:19:46.000 The only time it existed before that was when dead bodies would pollute river systems and shit after war. 0.92

01:19:53.000 You know? 0.98

01:19:53.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:19:53.000 Like when people would throw bodies into rivers, like that would, you know, that would fuck up people's wells, that would fuck up, you know, any drinking water. 0.98

01:20:02.000 People got real sick from that. 1.00

01:20:03.000 How did kings shit? 0.99

01:20:04.000 What did their toilets look like, like back in the 1500s, 1600s? 0.99

01:20:07.000 Looked like some dude that hates mouth.

01:20:09.000 Yeah, you know, exactly, right? 0.99

01:20:10.000 They had to have pimp ass toilets for the kings back in the day. 1.00

01:20:15.000 I'm sure they did. 0.98

01:20:17.000 Why don't you Google it, Jamie?

01:20:21.000 Toilet from King Henry the eighth that King Henry this ago killed all his wives, right? 0.99

01:20:25.000 I got toilets from all the way back in the BC's, but I'm gonna go to more King Henry a got tired of those ladies just cut the fuck where is it? 1.00

01:20:32.000 Where does the King's loaf go to mmm? 0.98

01:20:34.000 Where does it lead to expected by by doctors?

01:20:37.000 They want to make sure he's got enough fiber in his diet Keep his highness alive.

01:20:42.000 Where did the king just found something?

01:20:43.000 Oh, which is fine Jamie.

01:20:45.000 What's that face?

01:20:46.000 Something called a thunder mug.

01:20:47.000 Oh, nice.

01:20:49.000 Pull that up.

01:20:49.000 Make sure it was what it's supposed to be.

01:20:51.000 Here we go.

01:20:51.000 Hold on.

01:20:52.000 Make sure.

01:20:53.000 Oh, okay.

01:20:54.000 This is from the 1600s? 0.99

01:20:56.000 That's what he shit into? 0.99

01:20:57.000 No, that's why I say this is a Shakespearean chamber pot, not the Bard's own thunder mug. 0.99

01:21:03.000 But it is a typical chamber pot.

01:21:05.000 That's what they would call them?

01:21:06.000 Chamber pots?

01:21:07.000 I think. 1.00

01:21:07.000 So it's a pot that you shit in. 1.00

01:21:09.000 Like literally shit in a pot. 1.00

01:21:11.000 That looks sturdy. 1.00

01:21:12.000 So it's really like a toilet bowl.

01:21:15.000 It's like a toilet bowl.

01:21:16.000 It just doesn't have water in it.

01:21:17.000 Right.

01:21:17.000 Do you think they've left water in it to make it easier to clean?

01:21:19.000 Probably next to it.

01:21:20.000 Probably smarter to have water in there. 0.99

01:21:22.000 Yeah.

01:21:22.000 So you plop in the water.

01:21:23.000 Yeah.

01:21:24.000 Otherwise.

01:21:24.000 And you get a couple slaves to pull it out, dump it, and you're good.

01:21:27.000 Like if you ever have to take a shit on a plane and you see how little water there is and that little thing that you're dropping logs into. 0.97

01:21:33.000 And then when you flush, it never gets at all. 0.99

01:21:36.000 You know, and you gotta think, do I just like play stupid and get out of here? 0.97

01:21:40.000 Or do I give a courtesy flush? 1.00

01:21:42.000 Yeah, American Revolution is a hole in the ground.

01:21:44.000 Nice.

01:21:45.000 Imagine falling into that hole. 0.99

01:21:46.000 That's your death. 1.00

01:21:47.000 You choke to death on shit. 1.00

01:21:49.000 It's happened. 1.00

01:21:50.000 100% has happened.

01:21:51.000 It's happened.

01:21:52.000 I read about a dude who fell into a septic tank.

01:21:54.000 He fell into a septic tank and drowned.

01:21:56.000 He had a septic tank in his backyard.

01:21:59.000 And he was fixing it somehow or another, and it broke, he fell through, and he DROWNED! In a fucking septic tank! 1.00

01:22:07.000 How did they get rid of their shits in the city, just regular peasants? 1.00

01:22:11.000 They just threw it out on the streets? 0.99

01:22:12.000 Or did they have to collect it and drag it out to the woods?

01:22:15.000 That's a good question.

01:22:16.000 Well, there was a real issue in Rome in the early days of people shitting in the streets. 0.91

01:22:21.000 And apparently there's a lot of people in San Francisco right now that are shitting in the streets. 0.72

01:22:27.000 It's a real issue.

01:22:28.000 Jake Shields, my friend, the MMA fighter, jujitsu master, Jake Shields, you know Jake Shields, of course. 0.96

01:22:35.000 He put a video up on Instagram of some dude shitting, like pulling his pants down and like shitting right into the street. 0.84

01:22:42.000 Like he said, it's happening everywhere. 0.99

01:22:44.000 Yeah.

01:22:44.000 San Francisco has an amazing amount of bums.

01:22:47.000 I think it was Jake Shields.

01:22:48.000 I don't want to speak out of turn.

01:22:49.000 Pretty sure it was Jake.

01:22:50.000 That's the best city for homeless people, for sure. 0.99

01:22:52.000 They let people do whatever the fuck they want in that city. 0.96

01:22:54.000 They're so nice. 0.99

01:22:55.000 They're so open-minded and they feel so guilty because they made a billion dollars from like Brazzers.com or some shit. 0.86

01:23:01.000 You know, they made all that tech money. 0.77

01:23:04.000 It's a different kind of money.

01:23:06.000 They're so liberal. 1.00

01:23:08.000 In comparison to Wall Street banker type dudes, those dudes are like cutthroat, right wing, private jet, fuck you, minko, big watch, go, go, go. 1.00

01:23:19.000 I'm doing coke. 0.99

01:23:21.000 Whereas the money on the other side, like the tech money, they're all like, well, diversity is really important, and women, they need to be represented in tech, and this is their space. 1.00

01:23:31.000 This is a space for them, too.

01:23:32.000 We need to let them know.

01:23:34.000 We need to encourage that.

01:23:35.000 Like, they're so left-wing.

01:23:37.000 They're like, these homeless people, they also, just because they don't have an address doesn't mean this city is not equally theirs.

01:23:44.000 You know, we have to...

01:23:45.000 Help them and offer aid. 0.99

01:23:47.000 Crackheads just taking diarrhea splatter shits against walls. 1.00

01:23:52.000 They just let these people get away. 1.00

01:23:53.000 They were fucking mentally ill people. 1.00

01:23:56.000 And they just let them wander around through their streets. 1.00

01:23:58.000 If they really cared, you know what they would do?

01:24:01.000 They would really put some money into taking care of these people. 0.81

01:24:05.000 Instead of just letting them wander around the streets shitting all over the place.

01:24:07.000 Have a place where you can get them clothes from the Salvation Army or something like that.

01:24:11.000 Have a place where you give them regular showers.

01:24:13.000 Have something that's like appealing.

01:24:15.000 They can go to all the time. 0.62

01:24:16.000 So you keep them from just shitting on the streets in front of everybody. 0.92

01:24:19.000 Like that's crazy.

01:24:20.000 Billy Corrigan had a residency in San Francisco maybe eight years ago.

01:24:27.000 And it was all about him just writing songs on the spot and then going on stage that night and doing brand new songs, like a weird kind of residency.

01:24:35.000 And he had this one song that he wrote about.

01:24:39.000 He was just hanging out in the park in San Francisco and just wrote about the bums and how disgusting it all was.

01:24:44.000 And called the song Peace and Love.

01:24:47.000 Excellent song.

01:24:47.000 One of his greatest songs.

01:24:49.000 It's deep.

01:24:50.000 It's about the bums.

01:24:51.000 There's so many, man.

01:24:53.000 We used to run into them all the time when we did gigs in San Francisco.

01:24:56.000 We'd go out to eat, and you'd have to do like this bum obstacle course on the way to the restaurant. 1.00

01:25:02.000 Like, oh, here comes one.

01:25:03.000 Get across the street.

01:25:04.000 Oh, no, no, no.

01:25:04.000 I don't have any money, bro.

01:25:05.000 They're super aggressive, too.

01:25:06.000 Yes, yes.

01:25:07.000 People are real tolerant there.

01:25:09.000 Yeah.

01:25:09.000 But isn't that better?

01:25:10.000 That's better than the opposite.

01:25:12.000 I think it's good to live in a place that's as tolerant as possible.

01:25:15.000 Even if the super lefties get annoying, you don't want the opposite. 0.96

01:25:20.000 See, they might fuck up because there's the same sort of mentality that goes on with people on the far left and people on the far right. 1.00

01:25:26.000 That mentality is, my way's the right way, I'm right, you're wrong, fuck you, I'm gonna make you change. 0.99

01:25:32.000 I'm gonna make you do it and that doesn't work that doesn't work on anybody but I always feel like it's safer and better when that's happening towards like Kindness and compassion and income equality and all these things that are I see like even though it gets very authoritarian I See that at least it has like a good heart to it all like even if it's misguided some of its miss some socialism's misguided or even if they're pretending Yeah, 0.99

01:25:58.000 there's always that.

01:25:58.000 That's a good move, right?

01:26:00.000 If you're going to pretend, you pretend towards the left.

01:26:02.000 Yeah.

01:26:03.000 If you want to make some money.

01:26:04.000 Yeah, you could steal all sorts of tax money.

01:26:07.000 Just pretend you're helping people.

01:26:09.000 There's definitely a lot of that going on.

01:26:10.000 There's no doubt about that.

01:26:11.000 Dude, we haven't talked about Tony Ferguson.

01:26:13.000 It's 2 o'clock.

01:26:14.000 Yeah.

01:26:14.000 This is the kind of podcast we do.

01:26:16.000 Is it 2 o'clock already?

01:26:16.000 Dude.

01:26:16.000 Holy shit.

01:26:17.000 We ramble. 1.00

01:26:18.000 God damn. 0.99

01:26:20.000 We have to talk about Tony Ferguson seeing as how you're his jiu-jitsu coach and I was fucking convinced I told Jamie I told Jimmy Smith. 0.99

01:26:27.000 I'm like, I'm not buying it. 0.77

01:26:28.000 I'm not buying it.

01:26:29.000 It's April Fool's. 0.99

01:26:30.000 The shit's coming on April Fool's. 1.00

01:26:32.000 Fuck you, man. 1.00

01:26:33.000 You'll fool me once shame on you Fool me 50 times or how many times I've been busted by April Fool's like there's no fucking way Tony Ferguson got hurt a week before the fight. 1.00

01:26:42.000 There's no way. 0.78

01:26:43.000 Yeah, and it's true That's the first thing I thought.

01:26:45.000 I'm like, oh my god, everyone's going to think this is April Fools.

01:26:47.000 That's what Dana said.

01:26:48.000 Yeah, no one's going to believe this.

01:26:53.000 You know, I found out late Saturday night.

01:26:57.000 You know, I'm in the studio with Danny Loner just making some music.

01:27:01.000 And, you know, I knew something might have been wrong because we were supposed to work Saturday afternoon and He never know shows.

01:27:19.000 He's late a lot, but he was late, and I'm just hanging out in front of a studio.

01:27:23.000 He's got his own gym now.

01:27:25.000 And after a while, he didn't return his text. 0.99

01:27:27.000 I'm like, something, you know, he's a fucking superstar. 1.00

01:27:31.000 There's a lot of shit going on, so I just said, okay, fuck it. 1.00

01:27:34.000 So I left and went on with my day, went in the studio, and then I get the text, like at 11.25 at night, Saturday night. 1.00

01:27:42.000 He said, I fucked up my knee. 1.00

01:27:47.000 Blew my fucking LCL out. 1.00

01:27:50.000 He wants to fight. 1.00

01:27:51.000 He wants to fight.

01:27:52.000 He did not not want to fight, but his doctor said, you can't fight.

01:27:55.000 And he was like, I need a second opinion.

01:27:57.000 So he went to the UFC doctors.

01:27:59.000 They said, nope, you can't fight.

01:28:00.000 His LCL is detached from his knee.

01:28:03.000 So it's pulled from the bone.

01:28:05.000 It's pulled off the bone.

01:28:07.000 That's what they said.

01:28:08.000 That's how Dana described it.

01:28:10.000 Yeah, usually you tear your LCL or your MCL, usually, because I've done my MCL before.

01:28:15.000 It repairs on its own.

01:28:17.000 It's so thick, according to what the doctors tell me. 0.99

01:28:19.000 I don't know shit. 0.99

01:28:21.000 But you tear your meniscus, you probably need surgery for that. 0.99

01:28:26.000 Or you tear your ACL, you for sure need surgery for that, if it's a complete tear.

01:28:31.000 But the LCL and the MCL, the only time they're... 0.94

01:28:34.000 Again, according to what I hear, the only time he needs surgery is if it's fucking blown the fuck out, like motorcycle accents, like freak things. 1.00

01:28:42.000 And when I say Tony wanted a fight, he would have fought with that shit. 1.00

01:28:48.000 He didn't give a fuck. 1.00

01:28:49.000 They wouldn't let him fight. 0.99

01:28:50.000 He wanted a fight.

01:28:51.000 Was he walking with sunglasses on indoors?

01:28:55.000 I don't know.

01:28:55.000 I don't know what he was wearing.

01:28:57.000 This is what Dana was saying, I think.

01:28:59.000 He said he tripped over some wires.

01:29:02.000 You know those thick cables that they lay on?

01:29:05.000 Yeah.

01:29:06.000 Apparently he tripped over water and fell. 1.00

01:29:08.000 Fuck. 1.00

01:29:09.000 That's insane. 1.00

01:29:10.000 It's the craziest thing ever.

01:29:11.000 It's insane.

01:29:12.000 It's so crazy.

01:29:13.000 It's so sad.

01:29:14.000 That fight is doomed.

01:29:17.000 Dana White said he would never put that fight on again. 0.84

01:29:19.000 I'm like, are you crazy? 1.00

01:29:21.000 Book that shit again. 1.00

01:29:22.000 The thing that sucks is... 1.00

01:29:24.000 Maybe four is the magic number. 0.96

01:29:26.000 Dana said in an interview, kind of hinted or alluded to the fact...

01:29:30.000 I hope I'm wrong.

01:29:31.000 But that they're going to strip Tony of his interim belt.

01:29:36.000 Like, you know, Robert Whitaker...

01:29:38.000 Where'd you see that?

01:29:41.000 Someone told me.

01:29:42.000 I didn't hear it, so that's why I'm saying I don't know if it's true.

01:29:44.000 Someone said, yeah, Danny just did an interview.

01:29:46.000 He was hinting like...

01:29:49.000 He said it in such a way that...

01:29:53.000 Tony is going to get stripped of his belt. 0.96

01:29:54.000 And I thought, like, that's ridiculous. 0.70

01:29:56.000 Well, here's my question.

01:29:57.000 If someone is the champ, right, and they get injured and they can't defend their title, then they have an interim title, right?

01:30:03.000 But if the interim guy gets injured and can't defend the interim title, do they strip the interim title?

01:30:09.000 Does that ever happen?

01:30:10.000 Robert Whitaker, he went through the same thing.

01:30:12.000 Tony Ferguson loses interim lightweight title when Nurmagomedov and Holloway square off.

01:30:18.000 So I guess they're taking the title from him.

01:30:20.000 Yeah, they didn't do that to Robert Whitaker.

01:30:21.000 He was the interim champion.

01:30:23.000 Should they have an interim interim?

01:30:26.000 No?

01:30:27.000 I don't know, man.

01:30:28.000 It doesn't seem right.

01:30:30.000 They let Whitaker take 11 months off to recover.

01:30:32.000 Why would they do that?

01:30:33.000 It was the exact same thing.

01:30:34.000 It was the exact same situation.

01:30:36.000 Robert Whitaker was fighting for the interim, or he had the interim title.

01:30:42.000 He was going to fight.

01:30:43.000 I forget who it was.

01:30:44.000 It was either Yo Romero.

01:30:46.000 I forget who it was.

01:30:47.000 And then he got injured.

01:30:50.000 They didn't strip him.

01:30:51.000 Right.

01:30:51.000 Why are they stripping Tony?

01:30:52.000 Do you feel like it's punishment for him getting injured a week out, like they're pissed, and like, fuck it, strip him? 0.99

01:30:59.000 Injuries? 0.99

01:30:59.000 Yeah, I don't know. 0.99

01:31:00.000 I don't know, but that's...

01:31:02.000 You can't do that, right?

01:31:03.000 That's not right.

01:31:04.000 I mean, Tony wanted to fight more than anybody.

01:31:07.000 You've got to believe me on that one.

01:31:09.000 Like, if he happens four weeks ago, and it's an injury in training, and he tears it from the bone, is that, they just reschedule the fight, right?

01:31:18.000 Yeah.

01:31:19.000 It's still for the interim title.

01:31:20.000 Why is it like a week out the interim is canceled?

01:31:23.000 Maybe it's because they have to make a big fight with Max Holloway versus Khabib for the world that cost Tony a lot of money because he has the interim belt he This was going to be by far the biggest payday ever for him.

01:31:41.000 I mean, he was making some good money.

01:31:43.000 It's because of the belt.

01:31:45.000 So if you strip him his next fight, he doesn't have that belt anymore to get money.

01:31:51.000 So he'll get significantly less money?

01:31:54.000 If you don't have a belt, hell yeah.

01:31:56.000 What if Max or Khabib wins, right?

01:31:58.000 One of them I assume is going to win.

01:31:59.000 Whoever won it is.

01:32:01.000 And then Tony gets healthy.

01:32:03.000 And then they're going to have Tony fight one of those guys for the title.

01:32:07.000 Like he would get less than he would have for this fight?

01:32:10.000 If he doesn't have the belt.

01:32:12.000 Really?

01:32:12.000 So that's part of the contract?

01:32:15.000 If you're going to negotiate for a fight and you have a belt, you have way more power than if you don't have a belt.

01:32:23.000 So by stripping him of the belt, his next fight when he heals up and comes back, it's going to cost him.

01:32:30.000 And it's not fair because, again, Robert Whitaker didn't get stripped of his interim belt.

01:32:35.000 Max Holloway and Khabib should just fight, just a main event fight. 0.95

01:32:39.000 It doesn't have to be for a belt because that's going to fuck Tony. 0.96

01:32:43.000 Well, why would it fuck Tony if he still gets the interim title? 0.99

01:32:46.000 If he kept the interim title, then it wouldn't fuck him. 0.99

01:32:49.000 Yes, exactly. 0.90

01:32:49.000 For his next fight, when he negotiates for his next fight. 0.90

01:32:52.000 And then he would be interim title holder versus world title holder.

01:32:55.000 Yeah.

01:32:56.000 Why does Max and Khabib have to fight for a belt?

01:32:59.000 It doesn't have to be for a belt.

01:33:00.000 Well, the thing is, the UFC holds all the cards.

01:33:02.000 They can make up the rules.

01:33:04.000 They can do whatever they want when it comes to the rankings and stuff, right?

01:33:07.000 They can't do whatever they want when it comes to rules.

01:33:10.000 So with their position, they're like, look, this is going to cost a shitload of money.

01:33:15.000 How do we recoup that money?

01:33:18.000 You know, how do we, okay, we get Holloway to fight.

01:33:20.000 Oh, that's almost as big.

01:33:21.000 That's a giant fight too.

01:33:22.000 Okay, now we're back.

01:33:23.000 Now we're back in business.

01:33:25.000 And the stripping him thing, I don't know what the policy is on that.

01:33:29.000 I don't know if there's a public policy or if it's just, they just make the call.

01:33:33.000 I think they could do whatever they want to do.

01:33:37.000 They would never give up that power if they did have it, like to some organizing body.

01:33:43.000 Like why would they, right?

01:33:44.000 Because organizing bodies could even get corrupted.

01:33:46.000 But I think you have to be very careful when you make like interim titles that you don't make too many of them and you don't have them around too often.

01:33:55.000 You know, like once you have them, you got to get them resolved pretty quick.

01:33:58.000 Like they're a way to build up excitement about the fight.

01:34:02.000 But yeah, I mean, I don't think they would have stripped him if he got injured four weeks ago.

01:34:07.000 But who knows?

01:34:08.000 I might be wrong.

01:34:09.000 Maybe they have a new policy.

01:34:12.000 Maybe they're just stripping people. 0.94

01:34:14.000 But then Conor hasn't fought in 500 days.

01:34:17.000 He's not stripped yet.

01:34:19.000 Conor's not stripped yet.

01:34:20.000 He hasn't fought in more than 500 days.

01:34:23.000 MMA. Last time he fought was Eddie Alvarez.

01:34:26.000 That was his last MMA fight.

01:34:27.000 That was a long time ago, man.

01:34:29.000 That was a long time ago.

01:34:31.000 And then he hasn't been stripped.

01:34:33.000 So imagine being a lightweight, just sitting around waiting while he's on boxing TV, having a boxing match with Floyd Mayweather.

01:34:41.000 He doesn't even get stripped of his title, doesn't defend it, makes a hundred million bucks. 0.64

01:34:45.000 They're like, when you're fighting again, I was like, who fucking knows? 0.99

01:34:47.000 He doesn't say shit. 0.99

01:34:49.000 It'd be a lot clearer as to what to do in this situation. 0.99

01:34:52.000 If Conor would have just fought like a regular lightweight champion, there wouldn't be this interim confusion.

01:35:00.000 It's so good for Conor though.

01:35:02.000 All of it just makes him bigger and bigger.

01:35:04.000 It's like they even changed the rules for him.

01:35:06.000 You know?

01:35:07.000 I mean, think about that.

01:35:08.000 For him, it just makes him bigger.

01:35:10.000 He hasn't fought in 500 days. 1.00

01:35:11.000 Who fucking cares? 0.99

01:35:13.000 He's just rolling around in a bathtub full of $100 bills every day. 1.00

01:35:16.000 Just diving in there and swimming. 1.00

01:35:20.000 He can do whatever the fuck he wants. 0.98

01:35:21.000 Did you see that documentary on Netflix? 0.99

01:35:23.000 No, I didn't.

01:35:24.000 It's really good.

01:35:25.000 He knew he was going to be a champion back in the day.

01:35:28.000 It starts when he has just one tattoo, the one down his back, that's it.

01:35:34.000 None of the neck tattoos or anything.

01:35:36.000 He already knew.

01:35:37.000 He knew he just had dynamite in his hands.

01:35:40.000 Crushing people on the local scene. 0.71

01:35:43.000 Crushing them. 0.97

01:35:44.000 One shots. 0.95

01:35:45.000 Boom.

01:35:46.000 Yeah, I saw him fight in 2013, I think.

01:35:49.000 Somewhere around there.

01:35:51.000 In his first chance at the UFC, I wouldn't have known if I didn't see this documentary, it's hard to keep track of everything, but it was in Sweden.

01:35:59.000 It was a Swedish show, it was like last minute replacement, they brought him in, and he fought, what was his name?

01:36:08.000 Black guy. 0.99

01:36:10.000 Shit, I forget his name. 1.00

01:36:12.000 Good guy, real good guy, and he lit him up. 0.98

01:36:25.000 My favorite fights with him are the two fights with Nate Diaz though.

01:36:29.000 You know why?

01:36:30.000 Because those are the fights where he couldn't put someone away.

01:36:33.000 Just crack them and put them away.

01:36:35.000 So you had to see him fight.

01:36:36.000 He had a fight.

01:36:37.000 And it's a totally different game.

01:36:39.000 Like, if you see what he did to Eddie Alvarez, that was a totally different kind of fight.

01:36:43.000 Because he stung Eddie early, had him hurt, and he was his.

01:36:46.000 He owned him. 1.00

01:36:47.000 And then he fucked him up and stopped him. 1.00

01:36:49.000 That was a beating. 1.00

01:36:50.000 What round was that?

01:36:51.000 I think it was a second.

01:36:52.000 Second was a second.

01:36:53.000 He barely made it out of the first, right?

01:36:55.000 Yeah, barely made it. 0.99

01:36:56.000 I mean, he got fucked up from the get-go. 0.99

01:36:59.000 Conor just had his numbers. 0.99

01:37:00.000 Way faster, way quicker, and like covering distance.

01:37:03.000 Just like laser beams at night.

01:37:06.000 And I don't think Eddie fought right.

01:37:07.000 I think Eddie was a little bit too caught up in the moment. 0.99

01:37:09.000 This is the big hype of the fight, getting to fight Conor McGregor, and he just got fucked up. 0.97

01:37:13.000 And Conor had his hands behind his back and standing right in front of him, chicken necking him and then popping him in the face. 0.99

01:37:18.000 That was ugly.

01:37:19.000 So that, you know, like what year was that?

01:37:24.000 That was 500 days ago.

01:37:27.000 That kind of fight is a great fight for Conor, but that's all hammer.

01:37:33.000 When he fought Nate, he had to be the nail through a lot of that. 0.78

01:37:37.000 The whole fucking second round of the first fight when Nate got him down was the second round submission, right? 0.97

01:37:43.000 Wasn't it? 0.98

01:37:44.000 I don't know when he submitted him.

01:37:46.000 Did Nate submit him in the second round?

01:37:47.000 What are you looking at me funny?

01:37:49.000 You got something? 1.00

01:37:50.000 These fool pull out more than I do with my dick. 1.00

01:37:52.000 That's what Connor said. 1.00

01:37:54.000 These fools pull out more than I do with my dick. 1.00

01:37:57.000 I like how he had to specify with his dick. 1.00

01:37:58.000 So he must have only pulled out four times max. 0.99

01:38:02.000 That's not that great.

01:38:04.000 The fights with Nate were fights.

01:38:05.000 You know, he had to dig deep and he lost the first one.

01:38:08.000 He got beat up, he got taken down, he got his back taken, he got choked, he tapped. 0.99

01:38:13.000 I mean, he fucking lost that fight. 0.98

01:38:15.000 And then the second fight, he drops Nate, but he can't put Nate away. 0.99

01:38:19.000 Nate gets back up.

01:38:20.000 They're going after it. 0.99

01:38:21.000 There's fucking times where he's gotta stand and walk away. 0.99

01:38:24.000 He's gotta walk away because he's too tired. 0.99

01:38:25.000 He can't engage right now.

01:38:26.000 So he walked away a couple times in those exchanges.

01:38:29.000 Those were dig, dig fights.

01:38:31.000 What's this, buddy?

01:38:33.000 Round two, yeah.

01:38:34.000 Yeah, okay.

01:38:35.000 Submission, re-naked choke.

01:38:37.000 Four minutes and 12 seconds into round two.

01:38:38.000 Yeah, he beat him down, wore him down, and then stopped him.

01:38:41.000 And the fight that Conard won, could that have gone either way?

01:38:46.000 Yes, yes.

01:38:47.000 It was arguments, right?

01:38:48.000 Yes, very close fight.

01:38:49.000 I don't remember that much.

01:38:50.000 I think under the new rules, Conor probably would have won because I think, look, I think even just one knockdown is not good enough for a 10-8 round.

01:39:00.000 It's just not.

01:39:01.000 You know, in a five minute round, like one knockdown, it depends on how the other exchanges were going.

01:39:06.000 If the exchanges were all the same and then you cracked them once, you definitely won.

01:39:10.000 But did you win 10-8?

01:39:12.000 Like 10-8 is a beatdown, I think.

01:39:14.000 But even I think that should be wrong.

01:39:15.000 I don't think it should be that.

01:39:16.000 I think it should be like 100 points.

01:39:18.000 And I think they should have like scores for like 1 through 10 in striking, 1 through 10 in wrestling, 1 through 10 or non-applicable.

01:39:27.000 If there's no wrestling at all, you just 10. But you got to look at it this way, though.

01:39:30.000 If you could have a fight and in one round it's super close and really nothing happened.

01:39:37.000 It was super close and no one really connected anything.

01:39:40.000 And that happens all the time.

01:39:42.000 That's a 10-9 round, right?

01:39:43.000 Right.

01:39:45.000 And then you compare that to another round where a guy got dropped, but it was kind of a flash knockdown.

01:39:51.000 He pops back up, and then it's kind of even for the rest of the round.

01:39:55.000 That can't be a 10-9-2.

01:39:56.000 So either you've got to make more 10-10 rounds or 9-9 rounds, and then you could say, okay, a knockdown doesn't necessarily mean 10-8, because then a 10-9 is going to mean one dude clearly won and he landed some good shots.

01:40:10.000 That's a 10-9.

01:40:11.000 Right, right.

01:40:12.000 So it's all how you lay it down.

01:40:13.000 So if you're going to give, you know, a dude where the round could have gone either way and you're going to give someone a 10-9 and it looks just like a dude getting knocked down, that should be different.

01:40:23.000 So it all depends on add more draws or...

01:40:28.000 Make it so that if you knock a dude down, that's an automatic 10-8 round.

01:40:32.000 You knock a dude down, that's 10-8.

01:40:33.000 You knocked him down. 0.97

01:40:35.000 But what if he's beating your ass all over the place, and then you catch him with like five seconds to go, drop him, and he gets right back up, and he cracks you with a jab. 0.98

01:40:43.000 Do you still get a 10-8 because you dropped him? 0.98

01:40:45.000 I think I would say that's a 9-9.

01:40:50.000 Yeah, it's a 9-9 maybe.

01:40:52.000 Right?

01:40:53.000 I guess. 1.00

01:40:53.000 But it depends on how much he's beating your ass before that. 1.00

01:40:55.000 If the guy's beating your ass down the whole round and then you clip him once and he drops, maybe you weren't really beating him down that hard. 0.99

01:41:04.000 Maybe it just looked like it because he still cracked you. 0.99

01:41:06.000 If you were really beating him down, how was he able to knock you down?

01:41:11.000 That happens all the time.

01:41:12.000 Guys still have power, especially if you run into something.

01:41:14.000 That's a hard one to score.

01:41:15.000 That's a hard one to score.

01:41:16.000 A knockdown, then a beatdown, you get outclassed the whole match, or the whole round, and then you get knocked down once.

01:41:23.000 Do you remember when Drago, Pete Sell fought Scott Smith?

01:41:29.000 From Rocky IV? No.

01:41:31.000 No, I'm kidding.

01:41:32.000 I thought that's what you were saying.

01:41:33.000 Do you remember when Drago in the second round against Rocky?

01:41:36.000 We met him a long time ago at Matt Serra's place.

01:41:38.000 I remember Pete Sell.

01:41:39.000 Do you remember Pete Sell?

01:41:39.000 Yes, I know exactly who he is.

01:41:41.000 Pete dropped.

01:41:42.000 He hurt Scott Smith real bad with a left hook to the body.

01:41:46.000 Scott doubled over and winced.

01:41:48.000 And Pete moved in for the kill.

01:41:50.000 And Scott Smith just landed the perfect picture point.

01:41:53.000 But wasn't he faking it?

01:41:56.000 No!

01:41:58.000 He dropped in agony after he knocked him out.

01:42:00.000 Pete hooked him to the body, hurt him real bad, and when Pete moved in for the kill, Scott Smith hit him with a picture perfect right hand.

01:42:07.000 That I do remember.

01:42:08.000 I remember that one.

01:42:08.000 Just knocked him out.

01:42:09.000 He falls back, and then Scott Smith drops to the ground after he stopped the fight, and he's in agony holding onto his side.

01:42:14.000 It was crazy.

01:42:15.000 It was crazy.

01:42:17.000 See, that can happen.

01:42:18.000 Like, even if you're beating a guy down, they're still moving.

01:42:21.000 If they still just plant and just uncork one.

01:42:24.000 Pat Berry, Czech Congo. 1.00

01:42:25.000 Remember that shit? 1.00

01:42:26.000 Pat Berry had Czech Congo on Coeur Street. 1.00

01:42:29.000 He was wobbling and all over the place.

01:42:32.000 It looked like the fight was over.

01:42:34.000 And Pat moves in for the kill and boom! 0.89

01:42:37.000 Czech Congo hits him with a haymaker as he's running in. 1.00

01:42:41.000 Flatlines Pat Berry for the first time in his career. 1.00

01:42:45.000 Shit can happen. 1.00

01:42:46.000 If you're not knocked out, you're still moving, you still can knock someone out. 1.00

01:42:50.000 It can happen.

01:42:50.000 Especially if they get careless.

01:42:52.000 There it is.

01:42:52.000 Hits him with the left.

01:42:53.000 Look at this. 0.84

01:42:54.000 Boom! 0.99

01:42:54.000 I mean, that's a picture-perfect left hook to the body, but watch this. 0.99

01:42:58.000 He's in agony.

01:42:59.000 Pete moves in.

01:43:01.000 Bam! 0.98

01:43:02.000 I mean, that is a crazy right hand.

01:43:04.000 That's like round nine of Lange versus Balboa.

01:43:09.000 Look at him on the ground in agony afterwards.

01:43:12.000 Pete's cell couldn't even believe it happened.

01:43:15.000 Yeah, you should always faint before you move in.

01:43:18.000 Always.

01:43:19.000 Always.

01:43:20.000 Even if you think you got a guy hurt, give him one of those.

01:43:22.000 Yeah, just check.

01:43:22.000 Just see us up.

01:43:23.000 Feast like this, like, oh, okay.

01:43:25.000 Okay.

01:43:26.000 Give me something.

01:43:27.000 Show me what you got going on.

01:43:28.000 I mean, the best guys, they never just charge.

01:43:31.000 Like Max Holloway, we finished off Aldo.

01:43:33.000 It's just constant pressure, constant pressure.

01:43:35.000 But when he feels Aldo firing back, he's like, oh, I'll step back for a second.

01:43:38.000 Right back on you, baby. 0.88

01:43:39.000 Who's the best fainter? 0.97

01:43:41.000 That's always pretty goddamn good at it. 0.95

01:43:43.000 It seems like I just saw someone fighting the UFC or maybe Bellator that was always just fainting. 0.96

01:43:49.000 Wonderboy might get my vote for the best fainter.

01:43:53.000 Because Wonderboy also has...

01:43:55.000 It's like what style fainting is most effective.

01:43:58.000 Wonderboy has an extra advantage of having that right leg forward or left leg forward, whichever he chooses.

01:44:04.000 Sideway stance.

01:44:05.000 With that long body of his, that's a weird thing.

01:44:08.000 I've dealt with that, man.

01:44:10.000 In the old martial arts days and Taekwondo days, it's the hardest thing to deal with.

01:44:14.000 Those long guys that have a powerful front leg, he just keeps you away. 0.98

01:44:18.000 You don't know what the fuck he's doing. 0.99

01:44:20.000 So he faints, and then BAM! He comes in with the left hand, or he faints, and BOOM! There's a roundhouse kick in your face. 0.99

01:44:25.000 I think he's the most effective.

01:44:26.000 Also, he doesn't move like everybody else.

01:44:29.000 Everybody else has sort of a modified Taekwondo style, or Muay Thai style rather, except for the Taekwondo guys.

01:44:37.000 There's a few guys like, even Conor.

01:44:40.000 Conor has more of a karate style a lot of the times.

01:44:42.000 He'll stand like, when you see him fight Aldo, he stood totally sideways.

01:44:46.000 I mean, he was bouncing back and forth, back and forth like a karate fighter.

01:44:51.000 Remember how Don the Dragon Wilson used to fight?

01:44:53.000 He used to just get up on one leg and just keep his left leg up and kind of flip it and just be on one leg and just keep the left leg all the way up?

01:44:59.000 Dude, I sparred with that guy once.

01:45:01.000 It's annoying, right?

01:45:02.000 He's very good at that.

01:45:04.000 He's very good at that.

01:45:05.000 He was real nice to me.

01:45:05.000 How come more people don't do that?

01:45:06.000 Too much energy?

01:45:07.000 Well, he was... 0.91

01:45:09.000 You could tie kick him, right? 0.74

01:45:11.000 Dude, he's good at that too. 0.98

01:45:12.000 If you watch Don Wilson's fight with Dennis Alexio, Don Wilson fucked Dennis Alexio up back when Dennis Alexio didn't know about leg kicks.

01:45:19.000 Dennis Alexio wound up becoming one of the very best guys at leg kicks.

01:45:24.000 He was also one of the first guys I ever saw get his leg broken in a fight.

01:45:28.000 He fought Stan the Man Longinitas and he had a grass skirt. 0.75

01:45:34.000 And Stan Longinitas, he used to work with my friend Shuki.

01:45:38.000 Remember Shuki?

01:45:39.000 The Israeli guy who was teaching me kickboxing back in the day. 0.96

01:45:44.000 His leg was all fucked up because he would hold pads for Stan Longinitas. 0.97

01:45:48.000 He had that big old tied leg pad. 0.99

01:45:51.000 Like if you think...

01:45:54.000 Some people, like if you see a guy who kicks real hard, right?

01:45:57.000 The heavyweight, world champion Muay Thai guys, or Thai boxer, kick boxer guys, like a Stan Longinus, the power they have on their kick is unfathomable.

01:46:08.000 Remember, I brought this up with you, but you say it wasn't you.

01:46:11.000 I was at Beverly Hills Jiu-Jitsu once, and we were watching Pedro Hizo kick the bag.

01:46:15.000 And I was like, what?

01:46:17.000 Like, you just think of one of those slamming into your thigh, and you're like, there's no way.

01:46:20.000 There's no way. 0.99

01:46:22.000 Shooky's whole leg was fucked up. 0.99

01:46:23.000 He was holding the pad on one side. 0.99

01:46:25.000 He was going to need a hip replacement. 1.00

01:46:26.000 Damn. 1.00

01:46:27.000 Dude, imagine a guy kicks your leg while you're holding pads for him so hard you need a hip replacement. 1.00

01:46:35.000 What?

01:46:35.000 Was not worth it.

01:46:37.000 Don the Dragon Wilson beat Dennis Alexio with leg kicks, is my point.

01:46:41.000 But Don had that weird style.

01:46:43.000 He would stand totally sideways.

01:46:45.000 And he didn't take any chances.

01:46:47.000 He fought super intelligent.

01:46:48.000 He fought deep into his 40s, too, man.

01:46:50.000 He's an OG. Yeah, yeah.

01:46:52.000 Don Wilson's a real OG. I did commentary with him.

01:46:55.000 He was my partner in King of the Cage for maybe five or six shows.

01:47:00.000 Man, talk about the worst commentary ever.

01:47:02.000 Me and Don the Dragon Wilson.

01:47:05.000 Oh, yeah.

01:47:06.000 Can you imagine?

01:47:07.000 Oh, no.

01:47:09.000 Commentary is just not, that's not my gig, man.

01:47:11.000 I could do color, but being the play-by-play guy, that's just a whole different animal.

01:47:16.000 I did that once.

01:47:17.000 With Phil Barone. 0.98

01:47:18.000 Phil Barone was fucking hilarious. 0.99

01:47:20.000 He was great. 0.99

01:47:20.000 It was the Miami show. 0.99

01:47:21.000 Yep, yep.

01:47:22.000 We had a good time.

01:47:23.000 Was that the only UFC in Miami?

01:47:24.000 I think that was the only one ever, right?

01:47:27.000 Um, I don't know about that.

01:47:29.000 Is this Don the Dragon?

01:47:30.000 Don Wilson?

01:47:31.000 Who's he fighting here?

01:47:32.000 There he is.

01:47:33.000 Look at him in these red pants, man.

01:47:35.000 Oh, it's him fighting Dennis Lexio.

01:47:36.000 Yeah.

01:47:37.000 See how he would just flip that thing out?

01:47:39.000 Everything was like light and flippy.

01:47:41.000 And they couldn't...

01:47:42.000 Yeah, they didn't know what to do with it.

01:47:43.000 They couldn't kick to the legs, right?

01:47:45.000 Oh, they could.

01:47:46.000 Oh, they could?

01:47:47.000 Yeah.

01:47:47.000 Oh, look at that side.

01:47:48.000 Yeah, no, they could.

01:47:49.000 See?

01:47:50.000 He just kicked him in the leg right there. 0.99

01:47:52.000 Don Wilson fucked him up with leg kicks in this fight. 0.99

01:47:55.000 See, Dennis Alexio is trying to kick him in the legs. 0.72

01:47:56.000 This is after what had happened was a lot of these guys like Don Wilson that had a traditional karate background, learned how to kickbox, they realized how potent leg kicks were.

01:48:09.000 A big factor was Rick the Jet Rufus, Duke Rufus's brother, who was one of, you know, the all-time best PKA style above-the-waist kickboxers.

01:48:18.000 Rick Rufus, when I was a kid, man, I wanted to be like Rick Rufus. 0.54

01:48:21.000 He would fight dudes sideways, stance, and just fuck them up. 0.99

01:48:25.000 Fuck them up with hook kicks and roundhouse kicks and dive in with punches, like blitz karate-style punches. 1.00

01:48:32.000 I mean, Rick Rufus was doing shit that nobody was doing. 1.00

01:48:34.000 And he fought this Thai dude. 0.92

01:48:36.000 I do not remember the gentleman's name, but Duke Rufus brought it up on a podcast as being like a big transformation in his life.

01:48:42.000 I saw that fight.

01:48:46.000 They were like a mixed rules.

01:48:48.000 A little bit of Muay Thai, a little bit of American kickboxing.

01:48:50.000 They allowed the leg kicks, but they didn't allow elbows or something like that.

01:48:54.000 They mixed it up.

01:48:55.000 Like K1? Yes.

01:48:57.000 Here it is.

01:48:58.000 What is the guy's name?

01:49:01.000 Pause that real quick.

01:49:11.000 And he had an okay record.

01:49:14.000 Oh, well, he had more than 100 professional fights.

01:49:17.000 I mean, he was a world champion.

01:49:18.000 He wasn't an okay guy.

01:49:19.000 Yeah, he was really good.

01:49:20.000 He was a beast.

01:49:22.000 Okay, let's see what I think they say. 1.00

01:49:25.000 He was fucking him up with his hands though. 0.99

01:49:26.000 Rick Rufus was fucking him up with his hands. 0.99

01:49:28.000 Had him hurt. 0.99

01:49:28.000 Had him almost knocked out a couple times. 0.99

01:49:30.000 But he kept landing those leg kicks.

01:49:32.000 He didn't know about the leg kicks back then.

01:49:33.000 And he had to be carried off in a stretcher.

01:49:35.000 He couldn't fight because he couldn't walk.

01:49:38.000 His legs were gone.

01:49:40.000 Well, he didn't know what it was there.

01:49:42.000 So, I mean, this is like a long time ago.

01:49:45.000 He didn't understand, but he tagged him with some punches, man.

01:49:48.000 Oh, yeah, he couldn't hang with his hands.

01:49:50.000 No, look at that.

01:49:51.000 Spinning back fist and the punch behind it. 0.99

01:49:53.000 Yeah, he was fucking him up. 0.98

01:49:54.000 He really was. 0.98

01:49:55.000 But little by little, he was landing them leg kicks.

01:49:57.000 Look how tough that Thai guy is, though. 1.00

01:49:58.000 To take those shots and to bounce back.

01:50:00.000 One of the greatest fights ever in kickboxing history.

01:50:03.000 Just the fact that this is how Rick Rufus learned the power of leg kicks.

01:50:07.000 Look at that! 1.00

01:50:07.000 Look at that fucking... 1.00

01:50:08.000 Go back there real quick. 1.00

01:50:09.000 Go back there.

01:50:10.000 That guy's almost out.

01:50:10.000 Go back.

01:50:11.000 At the end of the round.

01:50:12.000 Go back.

01:50:12.000 Watch this.

01:50:13.000 Look at this move that he does.

01:50:14.000 He does that touch, jumping side kick, spinning wheel kick. 0.99

01:50:18.000 Hit him in the head. 0.96

01:50:19.000 Dude's out on his feet. 0.97

01:50:20.000 At the end of the bell, they sit him down in the corner.

01:50:22.000 Out on his feet.

01:50:23.000 Just keep playing this.

01:50:25.000 This is one of the greatest matches ever.

01:50:27.000 It's so historically significant in martial arts.

01:50:30.000 I mean, this is where they learned.

01:50:32.000 This is where those American kickboxers, this was an eye-opener. 0.99

01:50:37.000 This is like UFC 1 for kickboxing.

01:50:39.000 Dude, I remember the first time someone ever kicked me in the leg, and they didn't even do it hard.

01:50:43.000 They did it to show me how hard it is when you get kicked in the leg.

01:50:47.000 It was like a light bulb went off.

01:50:48.000 It went, Oh no.

01:50:49.000 The first time I've ever heard of a leg kick, I was working at the strip club as a DJ and one of the managers was all into karate.

01:50:56.000 Tournament, you always say, I've done tournament karate for 12 years. 0.99

01:51:00.000 Oh shit. 0.99

01:51:00.000 Look at this. 0.99

01:51:01.000 Dude, he's lighting them up with these leg kicks.

01:51:03.000 And then he took me in the back one day and he goes, dude, Stand there. 0.97

01:51:08.000 Let me kick you. 1.00

01:51:08.000 And he kicked me with his shin. 1.00

01:51:09.000 He goes, people are doing this now.

01:51:11.000 How does that feel?

01:51:12.000 He was experimenting on my leg.

01:51:14.000 He goes, does this hurt?

01:51:15.000 They're landing with their shin. 1.00

01:51:16.000 And I'm like, damn, fuck. 1.00

01:51:19.000 People are kicking with their shins? 1.00

01:51:20.000 That's weird.

01:51:21.000 Well, the crazy thing is when you feel it from someone who's just tapping your leg how much it hurts.

01:51:27.000 Now think of this dude.

01:51:28.000 Whose name I can't pronounce again.

01:51:30.000 Boom! 0.99

01:51:31.000 So Rick would try to throw his own kick, but his low kicks were like foot kicks.

01:51:36.000 I mean, he was a foot kicker.

01:51:38.000 He wasn't like a shin kicker back then.

01:51:40.000 Like most karate guys were instep kickers.

01:51:43.000 You would hit a guy with a roundhouse kick, but you would hit him in the body with your instep. 0.94

01:51:47.000 You'd hit him in the head with your instep.

01:51:48.000 Almost everything I ever did up until I started doing Muay Thai was with my insteps.

01:51:54.000 Or you heal, you know, like heel kicks, wheel kicks, stuff like that.

01:51:59.000 It was incredible that Americans didn't figure that out, you know? 0.68

01:52:04.000 Isn't that insane?

01:52:05.000 Nobody had kicked him in the leg yet. 1.00

01:52:07.000 I mean, this is crazy shit. 0.99

01:52:08.000 Did he hit him with a punch on the way down? 1.00

01:52:09.000 Back that up again real quick.

01:52:12.000 Back just a hair.

01:52:13.000 Look at this.

01:52:14.000 He goes down.

01:52:16.000 Yeah, he elbowed him in the back of the head! 1.00

01:52:18.000 Holy shit! 1.00

01:52:19.000 Dude, show that again! 1.00

01:52:21.000 Dude, watch this again.

01:52:23.000 Watch what happens.

01:52:24.000 He goes down, and on the way down, watch this.

01:52:26.000 Boom! 0.99

01:52:26.000 See that elbow? 0.99

01:52:27.000 Yo, dude, no doubt.

01:52:29.000 Dirty elbow to the back of the dome.

01:52:31.000 One more time, please.

01:52:32.000 One more time, please.

01:52:33.000 Look at this.

01:52:34.000 Down.

01:52:35.000 On his way down.

01:52:36.000 Watch his left.

01:52:36.000 Boom!

01:52:37.000 He fucking cracked the back of his head with an elbow. 1.00

01:52:40.000 Referee didn't even know what an elbow was. 0.99

01:52:42.000 That's an invalid technique.

01:52:44.000 Continue, gentlemen.

01:52:45.000 He totally missed a punch, landed with his elbow.

01:52:46.000 Yeah, he tried to land a punch, but I'm not going to take any points away because you didn't land. 0.98

01:52:53.000 Dude, he's fucking that right leg up. 0.99

01:52:56.000 Southpaw to Southpaw. 0.99

01:52:57.000 Boom! 0.99

01:52:58.000 Look at that.

01:52:58.000 Made him switch stances.

01:52:59.000 Look at that.

01:53:00.000 He's chopping him down.

01:53:02.000 Dude, you can't even imagine how bad this must hurt for Rick Rufus in the middle of this fight.

01:53:06.000 He doesn't know how to block these things.

01:53:08.000 He's taking one on the front leg, one on the back leg.

01:53:11.000 He's just getting crushed.

01:53:13.000 I mean, this is crazy. 1.00

01:53:14.000 He's going across the front where the dick is. 0.99

01:53:16.000 Dude, he's flat-footed now. 0.99

01:53:17.000 He can't take it.

01:53:19.000 Boom! 0.99

01:53:19.000 See, he can't spin. 0.99

01:53:21.000 He can't spin.

01:53:21.000 Look at this.

01:53:22.000 Accompanied by a stomp.

01:53:23.000 He stomped him.

01:53:25.000 Oh! 0.60

01:53:26.000 That stomp to the body was legit.

01:53:28.000 Oh my god. 1.00

01:53:30.000 Damn. 1.00

01:53:31.000 They need to make a movie out of this. 1.00

01:53:33.000 This is crazy.

01:53:34.000 Right?

01:53:34.000 They should make a movie.

01:53:35.000 They should make a documentary about this.

01:53:36.000 From his point of view, from a poor Thai fighter.

01:53:40.000 Right.

01:53:41.000 And Rick Rufus is trying to get up.

01:53:42.000 And make him evil. 0.98

01:53:43.000 Like, make Rick Rufus the evil white guy. 0.99

01:53:45.000 He can't even move. 0.99

01:53:46.000 Who wants to blow up the world.

01:53:47.000 He can't even move.

01:53:48.000 This is like...

01:53:49.000 These guys are so important.

01:53:51.000 It's so important to our understanding because Rick Rufus was so good. 0.94

01:53:54.000 He was so good and he was doing movie shit on people. 0.99

01:53:57.000 Those jump roundhouse kick, spinning hook kicks. 0.99

01:54:00.000 Look at this.

01:54:01.000 Round two. 0.99

01:54:02.000 I mean, he was doing some really wild shit and even landing it on this guy. 0.99

01:54:07.000 Like, he was fucking good. 0.98

01:54:09.000 He was a legit champion, no doubt about it. 0.98

01:54:12.000 But he just did not understand the low kick game yet.

01:54:15.000 It was so important for a guy.

01:54:18.000 Look at that, he lands that high kick.

01:54:20.000 It was so important that a guy as good as him fought this guy, so we know for sure.

01:54:25.000 It wasn't just that Rick Rufus wasn't any good. 0.96

01:54:28.000 No, Rick Rufus was fucking real good. 0.98

01:54:31.000 Real good then, too. 0.99

01:54:33.000 He's getting crushed with those.

01:54:37.000 And this Thai guy, look at his open hands too.

01:54:39.000 Look how he's moving forward.

01:54:41.000 Just open hands.

01:54:42.000 He's all about protecting himself, pushing off, and low kicking.

01:54:45.000 Look at his hands.

01:54:46.000 See his hand placement? 1.00

01:54:48.000 I mean, that's crazy shit. 1.00

01:54:49.000 Look at that. 1.00

01:54:50.000 Boom! 0.99

01:54:50.000 Pushing off. 0.99

01:54:51.000 He's barely even trying to punch with him.

01:54:53.000 He's basically just using his hands to create space and distance and give Rick Rufus something to think about and to block the punches and the kick that Rufus throws and then, boom, leg kicks. 0.59

01:55:02.000 He just leg kicks him to death.

01:55:04.000 Look at that. 0.55

01:55:05.000 He's not punching.

01:55:06.000 He's just leg kick, leg kick, hands up, hands up, leg kick.

01:55:09.000 Boom! 0.99

01:55:09.000 That is crazy! 0.99

01:55:11.000 As soon as he stopped exchanging punches, he just started dominating the space and then slamming those leg kicks in.

01:55:17.000 Look at that.

01:55:17.000 Boom!

01:55:18.000 Fakes with the hand and across both thighs.

01:55:20.000 That's one of the most painful ones, man.

01:55:22.000 The ones across both thighs?

01:55:24.000 Ah!

01:55:25.000 Ah!

01:55:26.000 Dude.

01:55:27.000 Rob came in back when I was getting coaching from him.

01:55:29.000 He tapped me across the front of my thighs with his shin.

01:55:32.000 Just dunk.

01:55:33.000 Just tapped me.

01:55:34.000 My legs hurt all day.

01:55:38.000 This guy?

01:55:39.000 Wow!

01:55:39.000 Look at that throw!

01:55:40.000 Holy shit! 1.00

01:55:42.000 Those ties can chuck each other around too, man. 1.00

01:55:45.000 I posted a little clip of a fight where they just wrapped up their hands.

01:55:52.000 They didn't have gloves and headbutts were legal.

01:55:54.000 It was kickboxing where you could throw people and you could headbutt.

01:55:57.000 Did you see that clip?

01:55:59.000 No, I didn't see it.

01:56:00.000 Dude, it's evil.

01:56:01.000 A guy headbutts his opponent standing up.

01:56:04.000 He just...

01:56:05.000 Just spears his head right into it, knocks the guy down just from a headbutt.

01:56:08.000 And Rufus, like, he only stands that one way most of the time, too.

01:56:12.000 So that front right leg is so vulnerable to that left outside kick because they're both southpaw. 0.99

01:56:18.000 If Rick, see, now he's trying to switch up and he's putting his left leg forward because he's in so much pain.

01:56:23.000 Like, look when he walks back to his corner.

01:56:25.000 Dude, he could barely walk at the end of the third round.

01:56:27.000 Barely walk.

01:56:28.000 Was this in Thailand or was it in the States?

01:56:30.000 I don't know where it was.

01:56:32.000 It looks, it says Coors Beer on the canvas, so I want to think it's in America.

01:56:36.000 And plus the way they're making him, he's wearing those pants, I gotta think it's America. 0.99

01:56:41.000 Those pants look so stupid in comparison. 0.99

01:56:43.000 And also, Rick Rufus was also wearing pads on his feet. 1.00

01:56:46.000 Oh shit, how did he go down there? 0.99

01:56:48.000 Leg kick. 1.00

01:56:48.000 Another leg kick. 1.00

01:56:49.000 Oh, can you rewind that, Jamie?

01:56:50.000 Look at the pads.

01:56:52.000 Look at the pads on his feet.

01:56:53.000 Look at this.

01:56:54.000 How does he go down?

01:56:55.000 Boom.

01:56:56.000 That was just a leg kick. 0.99

01:56:57.000 Yeah, just a low kick.

01:56:58.000 Caught him in the spin and just totally took his leg out.

01:57:01.000 And he's wearing those booties on the tops of his feet to protect the bones of his feet because he's a foot kicker.

01:57:08.000 See what I'm saying?

01:57:08.000 That's extra weight.

01:57:10.000 You're wearing extra four ounces or whatever the fuck it is on your feet. 0.95

01:57:12.000 It slows your kicks down. 0.98

01:57:14.000 And the Thai guy just has taped up ankles and shorts on. 1.00

01:57:17.000 It's really interesting because this really is like kickboxing versus Muay Thai.

01:57:21.000 Boom, he chops the leg again.

01:57:22.000 Boom, he chops the leg again.

01:57:24.000 Look at this.

01:57:25.000 Rick Rufus is in so much danger here.

01:57:27.000 I mean, he's basically just totally helpless. 0.60

01:57:29.000 And this Thai guy is going across the shins. 1.00

01:57:32.000 He's going across the... 1.00

01:57:33.000 If he's blocking with his knee, he doesn't give a fuck. 0.99

01:57:35.000 He's just kicking through him. 0.99

01:57:36.000 Everything.

01:57:37.000 Boom, look at that.

01:57:38.000 Boom, look at that.

01:57:40.000 He's just walking him down.

01:57:42.000 Imagine how terrifying?

01:57:43.000 Dude, boom, and then another one.

01:57:45.000 You know how terrifying that must be?

01:57:47.000 To have that guy walk you down like that?

01:57:50.000 Hands out like this.

01:57:51.000 That's it.

01:57:51.000 They called it.

01:57:51.000 They called the fight.

01:57:52.000 I think, is that J.T. Will, the referee?

01:57:55.000 He's a famous referee.

01:57:57.000 Look at that.

01:57:58.000 He was in all those karate.

01:58:00.000 That's Duke right there.

01:58:02.000 No, that's not J.T. Will.

01:58:03.000 That's Duke right there telling everybody that he didn't think that it took a lot of skill to kick someone's legs.

01:58:16.000 The big historical...

01:58:17.000 Listen to this stuff.

01:58:21.000 I mean, Duke became like the man.

01:58:26.000 Look at this.

01:58:27.000 Bam! 0.98

01:58:34.000 What's crazy now?

01:58:41.000 Because he's all about legs.

01:58:44.000 Well, what's crazy is, I mean, Duke, I think, was only 19 at the time.

01:58:47.000 And he's changed.

01:58:48.000 He's learned.

01:58:49.000 And one of the reasons why he's so good is because he's open-minded.

01:58:53.000 But he became a world champion Muay Thai fighter himself, which is crazy.

01:58:56.000 It's just like jujitsu and leg locks.

01:58:58.000 You know what I mean?

01:58:59.000 It's just like that.

01:59:00.000 Like, ah, that doesn't take any talent.

01:59:02.000 You're just jumping on a guy's leg.

01:59:03.000 Dude, all martial arts techniques that are effective.

01:59:05.000 There's still people that don't believe in certain techniques.

01:59:08.000 And the big...

01:59:09.000 Another big moment for Muay Thai in the history of that martial art was Paul Varlins versus Marco Huas.

01:59:17.000 Oh, yeah.

01:59:17.000 That's when we saw...

01:59:18.000 It was UFC 7. That's when we saw the damn... 1.00

01:59:22.000 Because before UFC 7... 0.99

01:59:24.000 Everybody was thinking, okay, you can't really do any kind of striking.

01:59:27.000 You have to learn jiu-jitsu or you will lose.

01:59:31.000 People were just losing faith in striking altogether.

01:59:36.000 It was almost like jabs didn't even work back then.

01:59:41.000 Like, who throws a jab in MMA? You're going to get taken down and get choked out.

01:59:44.000 And UFC 7, that's when we learned, okay, leg kicks work. 0.75

01:59:49.000 You've got to learn leg kicks.

01:59:51.000 Yeah, because Paul Varlins was 300 pounds.

01:59:52.000 Yeah, that changed everything.

01:59:54.000 Varlins was huge.

01:59:55.000 The polar bear, they'd call him.

01:59:56.000 That guy was gigantic.

01:59:58.000 Marco Huas just took his legs out.

02:00:01.000 And then Marco Huas, he also beat Remco Pardue, that judo champion.

02:00:06.000 You remember?

02:00:07.000 He mounted him and then Remco tapped.

02:00:09.000 He goes, it's over.

02:00:10.000 Once you get the mount, it's over.

02:00:12.000 Isn't that crazy?

02:00:12.000 That's what he thought.

02:00:13.000 That is what he thought.

02:00:14.000 Isn't that crazy?

02:00:15.000 Look at this. 1.00

02:00:15.000 Marco Huas would get heel hooks on people and shit. 1.00

02:00:18.000 Who's he fighting here? 0.99

02:00:19.000 Larry Curitan?

02:00:21.000 Yeah, he gets him in the heel hook right here.

02:00:23.000 I think this was the first heel hook in the UFC. Might have been, if it wasn't him, it was...

02:00:28.000 Oh, that's amazing.

02:00:29.000 Oh, wait a minute.

02:00:30.000 Maybe Ken Shamrock against Patrick Smith.

02:00:33.000 Yes.

02:00:33.000 I don't know if that was a heel hook.

02:00:35.000 That was an ankle lock, wasn't it?

02:00:36.000 Was that an ankle lock?

02:00:37.000 I don't know.

02:00:38.000 Or a heel hook? 0.60

02:00:39.000 Yeah, Ken probably had the first ever leg lock.

02:00:41.000 And then I was going to say Oleg Taktarov.

02:00:44.000 Didn't Oleg get some heel hooks?

02:00:45.000 He got a knee bar and a straight ankle lock, I think.

02:00:48.000 Hmm.

02:00:49.000 Old school, son.

02:00:51.000 Oldie old school.

02:00:52.000 Oh, is that like some kind of MMA show reviewing old fights?

02:00:55.000 Man.

02:00:56.000 Oh, there's Marco Huas.

02:00:57.000 King of the streets, baby.

02:00:58.000 Can you find Paul Varlins?

02:01:00.000 It's V-A-R Varlins. 1.00

02:01:03.000 You ever talk to Eric Apple about his old days sparring with Marco?

02:01:07.000 They would spar Brazilian style, which is get ready for concussions.

02:01:12.000 It didn't matter if you get your nose broken, get back in there.

02:01:15.000 Everybody was just going to war.

02:01:17.000 Yeah, that's what everyone was scared to death of back in the early days when I was a white belt.

02:01:24.000 You hear about Half Gracie School up in...

02:01:27.000 It's Paul Varlins versus Marco Huas.

02:01:31.000 That's Paul Varlins fighting, it looks like, in a pre-UFC fight.

02:01:34.000 Or maybe after his UFC career.

02:01:36.000 He was a master of...

02:01:39.000 Was it trap fighting?

02:01:40.000 I don't know.

02:01:41.000 Something like that.

02:01:42.000 It was trap fighting.

02:01:42.000 Yeah, I think you're right.

02:01:43.000 There it is right there at the top.

02:01:44.000 It's the UFC fight.

02:01:46.000 He wore a singlet, remember?

02:01:48.000 He wore a wrestling singlet.

02:01:50.000 Yeah.

02:01:51.000 Like, look.

02:01:51.000 He's 6'7".

02:01:52.000 This big fella.

02:01:54.000 Can you wear those singlets anymore?

02:01:55.000 No.

02:01:56.000 You can't, right?

02:01:56.000 No.

02:01:56.000 Why not?

02:01:57.000 It's a good question.

02:01:59.000 Girls can. 1.00

02:02:00.000 Well, it actually looks like he's got different color shorts on, or is that the monitor?

02:02:03.000 So he's a tank top.

02:02:06.000 He has a tank top on.

02:02:07.000 He's fighting with a tank top on.

02:02:08.000 It's not even a singlet.

02:02:09.000 Right?

02:02:10.000 It looks like a singlet.

02:02:11.000 A little bit, but doesn't it look like different colors?

02:02:13.000 Well, maybe you're right.

02:02:15.000 Maybe it's just we're seeing his legs.

02:02:17.000 Go to the last minute of the fight.

02:02:20.000 The last minute of the fight.

02:02:22.000 That's where he chops him down.

02:02:23.000 He just chopped him down there with the first one. 0.50

02:02:25.000 Boom. 0.52

02:02:25.000 Yeah. 0.52

02:02:26.000 He's so much smaller than him.

02:02:27.000 Look how small Marco is in comparison.

02:02:29.000 Marco's a big guy.

02:02:30.000 Boom.

02:02:32.000 See, Paul Varlance doesn't have any idea what to do here, so he just keeps kicking back.

02:02:36.000 Oh, he just touched his leg.

02:02:38.000 Oh, there it is.

02:02:40.000 Marco's chopping him.

02:02:41.000 Boom. 0.64

02:02:41.000 Oh, chopped him down. 0.64

02:02:42.000 Get your fucks now, son. 1.00

02:02:43.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:02:44.000 And Marco just got on top of him and dropped hammers on him.

02:02:47.000 Boom, boom.

02:02:47.000 No gloves.

02:02:49.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:02:49.000 Damn, dude. 1.00

02:02:50.000 Old school. 1.00

02:02:51.000 After that everyone started training leg kicks.

02:02:54.000 Firmly believe we need to go back to no gloves.

02:02:56.000 Firmly believe.

02:02:57.000 I can't emphasize it enough.

02:02:59.000 I think people would get less hurt.

02:03:02.000 I think it'd be more realistic.

02:03:05.000 You gotta have Rogan fighting championships on an Indian reservation.

02:03:08.000 I don't think it makes sense.

02:03:09.000 I mean, I'm beating a dead horse.

02:03:11.000 I know.

02:03:11.000 I'm a broken record.

02:03:12.000 I just don't think it makes sense to tape your wrists up.

02:03:14.000 Your wrists are very vulnerable.

02:03:15.000 You shouldn't be able to just make a cast out of them and slam them into things.

02:03:18.000 I feel the same way about your ankles.

02:03:20.000 Like, imagine if you could tape your wrists up to the point where nobody or your ankle up to a point where nobody could ever get you in a footlock because your ankle was protected. 0.82

02:03:27.000 It's ridiculous, right?

02:03:28.000 Well, essentially, when you get someone in a wrist lock, what are you doing?

02:03:32.000 You're pulling against the wrist.

02:03:34.000 Well, is that a valid technique?

02:03:36.000 Okay, a valid technique, like a wrist lock like this, very hard to do when someone's wrist is taped the fuck up.

02:03:40.000 When your wrist is really...

02:03:42.000 Where does the tape go?

02:03:42.000 Right across?

02:03:43.000 All over here.

02:03:43.000 It goes all over your knuckles.

02:03:45.000 It goes all around your wrist.

02:03:46.000 It goes all around your wrist.

02:03:47.000 It makes it much more stable.

02:03:48.000 You can really dig into things.

02:03:50.000 It feels way better.

02:03:51.000 It feels way better to hit things.

02:03:53.000 Because when you don't, especially like my hand is bigger than my wrist, so if I hit things on either side, it'll be like more wobbly.

02:04:01.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:04:01.000 You want that bitch taped up, you know? 0.99

02:04:04.000 Solid. 0.99

02:04:05.000 Yeah, and even if your hand is the exact same size as your wrist...

02:04:09.000 Man, this is a joint that is super articulating.

02:04:12.000 Look at this wrist.

02:04:13.000 I mean, look at all the stuff your wrist does. 0.88

02:04:15.000 Your wrist is crazy.

02:04:17.000 If you really think about joints, it's the only joint like it. 1.00

02:04:19.000 Your knees don't do that shit. 1.00

02:04:21.000 I guess your shoulders are kind of crazy. 1.00

02:04:22.000 But your wrists...

02:04:24.000 When you're punching, you would have to develop some serious strength in your forearms to be able to be a really effective bare knuckle fighter.

02:04:32.000 I mean, truly bare knuckle.

02:04:34.000 No wraps in your hands.

02:04:35.000 No nothing.

02:04:36.000 Just truly bare knuckle.

02:04:37.000 You would also learn that you must punch things with the top knuckles.

02:04:41.000 You have to.

02:04:42.000 And even then you could break them. 0.99

02:04:44.000 But if you start hitting people in the jaw, like right there, with this, crack, this fucking thing's just gonna break. 0.99

02:04:50.000 Hit somebody in the forehead right here, crack, it's gonna break. 0.99

02:04:53.000 You're going to break them. 0.99

02:04:54.000 Elbows?

02:04:55.000 Break them for sure.

02:04:56.000 You're going to break them. 1.00

02:04:57.000 But with those gloves on, you can get away with that shit. 1.00

02:04:59.000 You can get away with that shit and you could pity pack guys. 1.00

02:05:02.000 You could do that more and just not even try to find specific spots. 1.00

02:05:07.000 Just start hitting them.

02:05:08.000 You can't do that.

02:05:09.000 You have to make sure you're getting the soft tissue.

02:05:12.000 You've got to target soft tissue.

02:05:13.000 You've got to look for the jaw.

02:05:14.000 Bang! 1.00

02:05:14.000 You've got to look for the body. 1.00

02:05:16.000 Bang! 1.00

02:05:16.000 But it appears to the public to be more brutal, right? 1.00

02:05:19.000 If you don't...

02:05:20.000 Listen man, all you need to do is watch anybody kick somebody. 1.00

02:05:24.000 Just think the fact that we let someone slam their fucking shin into some dude's face. 0.99

02:05:30.000 Watch Jeremy Stephens. 1.00

02:05:32.000 When Jeremy Stephens fought Honey Jason.

02:05:37.000 Remember Honey Jason?

02:05:38.000 Jeremy Stephens' Honey Jason?

02:05:40.000 It is like the head kick to end all head kicks. 0.99

02:05:43.000 Damn, I don't remember it. 1.00

02:05:44.000 Pull that shit up. 1.00

02:05:45.000 You guys aren't allowed to pull up UFC footage? 0.99

02:05:48.000 I wish we could.

02:05:49.000 I wish we should have a special exemption from the UFC. What about Fight Pass?

02:05:52.000 Like, maybe promote Fight Pass every time you use it.

02:05:54.000 That would be a great way to promote it, right?

02:05:56.000 I wish they would let us, though.

02:05:57.000 They sent me a thing one time.

02:05:58.000 They reached out and said, like, here's an account, but then they never responded.

02:06:01.000 I was like, okay, let me have it.

02:06:02.000 It would be a great way to promote it, right?

02:06:04.000 Yeah, I'll talk to the UFC. I'll try to see what we can get done.

02:06:07.000 If on your show you could talk about fights and have no issues with pulling up Fight Pass, that would be huge for them.

02:06:14.000 That would.

02:06:15.000 And it's free.

02:06:15.000 They don't pay me for this.

02:06:17.000 And that's how people would do it at home. 0.99

02:06:19.000 They'd be hanging out with their friends, going, fuck, remember that one fight? 0.99

02:06:22.000 Put it on! 1.00

02:06:22.000 Find it! 1.00

02:06:22.000 Are you coming to New York this weekend anyway? 1.00

02:06:24.000 No.

02:06:24.000 Coming to New York?

02:06:25.000 No.

02:06:26.000 Because I've got to be there the next week anyways.

02:06:28.000 I've got to go to Brooklyn again the following weekend.

02:06:32.000 Gio's fighting Gordon Ryan's brother, Mickey Ryan. 0.99

02:06:34.000 Oh, shit. 0.99

02:06:35.000 That's going to be amazing. 0.99

02:06:36.000 It's going to be awesome, man.

02:06:37.000 Those guys are awesome.

02:06:38.000 I love the level of jiu-jitsu that's available right now.

02:06:41.000 It's insane.

02:06:42.000 It's better than ever.

02:06:43.000 Way better than ever.

02:06:44.000 I mean, the level of just the purple belts these days would destroy purple belts of like eight years ago.

02:06:51.000 It's amazing.

02:06:51.000 It's crazy.

02:06:52.000 And it keeps going up and up too.

02:06:54.000 I was watching some videos today online.

02:06:57.000 Instagram's huge.

02:06:57.000 The loop, when you watch a technique and you can just watch it over and over again, that accelerates the learning process so much.

02:07:06.000 I was watching a clip today.

02:07:08.000 I watched it like 15 times in a row.

02:07:10.000 It was Cyborg doing that tornado guard pass on some big giant dude.

02:07:17.000 Cyborg BJJ, I think is his thing, he hit this giant dude with that tornado sweep.

02:07:22.000 You know how he does that?

02:07:23.000 He gets under you and spins and rolls over.

02:07:26.000 Very, very interesting.

02:07:27.000 Very few people can do that.

02:07:29.000 He's so strong.

02:07:30.000 But that's what his post was about.

02:07:33.000 His post is about technique and strength.

02:07:35.000 Is that like your technique is like the steering wheel, but your strength is the engine.

02:07:39.000 Yes, I believe that.

02:07:40.000 I believe that too.

02:07:41.000 I mean, every top pro athlete has a serious strength and conditioning program.

02:07:46.000 Look at Gordon Ryan's body.

02:07:48.000 Yeah.

02:07:48.000 Look at that kid's body.

02:07:49.000 That kid's a gorilla. 0.99

02:07:51.000 It's not a coincidence that he's jacked as fuck and has awesome technique and tapped Cyborg. 0.99

02:07:59.000 Think about how good Cyborg is and then think about him tapping Cyborg and tapped him pretty handily. 0.99

02:08:05.000 Look at that sweep, man.

02:08:07.000 Boom! 0.99

02:08:07.000 That was Orlando Sanchez, too. 0.99

02:08:09.000 That guy weighs 300 pounds.

02:08:11.000 Exactly. 1.00

02:08:11.000 Damn! 1.00

02:08:11.000 That's why it's crazy. 1.00

02:08:13.000 That's why it's crazy.

02:08:13.000 That's way crazy.

02:08:14.000 Look how big this is.

02:08:14.000 Look at the sweep.

02:08:15.000 Look at the sweep.

02:08:16.000 Leg up in the air and a hand, too. 1.00

02:08:18.000 Damn! 0.99

02:08:18.000 He gets his foot in between the legs and then he pushes the hip with his hand. 0.99

02:08:21.000 That's one of the greatest sweeps of all time.

02:08:23.000 Of all time.

02:08:24.000 Of all time. 1.00

02:08:24.000 Holy shit. 1.00

02:08:25.000 Look at that. 1.00

02:08:26.000 Look at this.

02:08:26.000 Look how he's holding his right arm.

02:08:28.000 Look, he's using his foot and he tucks him under and pushes him.

02:08:32.000 I'd like to know where the left hand is at.

02:08:34.000 Left hand's on the hip.

02:08:35.000 Watch how he rolls.

02:08:36.000 When he rolls him, watch.

02:08:37.000 See his left hand?

02:08:38.000 See his right hand's on top of the left hand?

02:08:39.000 See it on the hip?

02:08:40.000 See it?

02:08:40.000 Pushing?

02:08:41.000 Where on the hip, though?

02:08:42.000 It looks like it's right here.

02:08:43.000 It looks like it's right here.

02:08:44.000 He's probably just getting anything that he can that's flat.

02:08:47.000 If you look at the way...

02:08:49.000 See the left hand?

02:08:50.000 His left hamstring has got to be so strong.

02:08:52.000 Oh, dude, he's a gorilla.

02:08:53.000 That left hamstring.

02:08:54.000 Insane, right?

02:08:55.000 But it's not even just a hamstring because he looks to me like his foot's sideways.

02:08:59.000 Watch when he does it again.

02:09:00.000 Look, his foot is sideways like a sidekick.

02:09:02.000 Look.

02:09:03.000 Yeah.

02:09:03.000 Look at that.

02:09:04.000 I mean, it's like he's going against the inside of the leg.

02:09:07.000 This is what's even crazier.

02:09:09.000 The strain is like the abductor muscles.

02:09:11.000 He's going like this way.

02:09:13.000 That's nuts, man.

02:09:14.000 Look at his left leg blocking dude's left arm.

02:09:17.000 Or his right leg, I'm sorry, the right leg.

02:09:19.000 It's amazing.

02:09:20.000 And that guy he just swept is an ADCC gold medalist and he's 300 pounds and he's a really good wrestler.

02:09:28.000 He's a black belt in jiu-jitsu.

02:09:30.000 That's phenomenal.

02:09:31.000 He should just leave that on a loop.

02:09:33.000 At a school.

02:09:34.000 You know what I mean?

02:09:36.000 Well, Cyborg's a gorilla.

02:09:37.000 He's got an amazing...

02:09:38.000 Has he ever seen his strength and conditioning routines?

02:09:41.000 No. 1.00

02:09:41.000 That motherfucker doesn't play, dude. 1.00

02:09:43.000 He's a gorilla. 1.00

02:09:44.000 He's a gorilla.

02:09:46.000 All the top guys.

02:09:47.000 Oh, yeah.

02:09:47.000 You got to.

02:09:48.000 I just saw Andrew Galvao doing deadlifts.

02:09:50.000 Yes.

02:09:51.000 Today, he's doing deadlifts in his garage.

02:09:53.000 Hey, let me ask you this.

02:09:54.000 Is it better to just let the deadlifts...

02:09:56.000 I was going to ask you, because of that, when he deadlifts, he drops it go.

02:09:59.000 Is that the best way to do it?

02:10:00.000 You tell me. 1.00

02:10:01.000 I don't know shit. 1.00

02:10:01.000 I don't know shit either. 1.00

02:10:02.000 I would always think that the negatives are important. 0.98

02:10:05.000 Because negatives for me are very important.

02:10:06.000 Like for chin-ups, I go way slower going down.

02:10:10.000 It seems like every six months there's a whole new philosophy on strength.

02:10:13.000 And it's totally the opposite of the last one.

02:10:15.000 It's so crazy.

02:10:16.000 Like now the big thing is, you know, with intermittent fasting, it's like, okay, there's all these diets and eat this and gluten that and all this.

02:10:23.000 And then now the new diet is don't eat for 18 hours, you know?

02:10:26.000 I know.

02:10:27.000 Isn't that crazy?

02:10:28.000 It's crazy. 1.00

02:10:29.000 Dude, that shit works. 1.00

02:10:30.000 You know what's great about that? 1.00

02:10:31.000 Is it makes you have a time every day where you're going to have the most fabulous meal ever.

02:10:39.000 Because when I eat, I'm starving.

02:10:43.000 And salads taste so good.

02:10:46.000 Like, oh, I want a bacon.

02:10:48.000 16 hours off.

02:10:50.000 Yeah.

02:10:50.000 And when you're not that hungry, now I feel like if I'm not that hungry, I don't want to waste a meal because it's so much better when you're starving and you're out of control.

02:11:02.000 I eat that way most of the time except on days when I know I have a really brutal workout in the morning, like a weightlifting workout.

02:11:08.000 I'll run fasted, I'll do yoga fasted, but if I'm going to lift...

02:11:13.000 I want to have something.

02:11:14.000 I need some fruit or something.

02:11:16.000 It's almost three right now.

02:11:17.000 I haven't eaten at all.

02:11:18.000 I'm fine.

02:11:22.000 It's an interesting diet. 0.99

02:11:25.000 I hope it isn't bullshit. 0.99

02:11:28.000 No, it's definitely not bullshit. 0.99

02:11:29.000 I was never a morning person either.

02:11:31.000 I never really looked forward to breakfast.

02:11:35.000 I'd have a protein bar or something just because I had to.

02:11:38.000 Did you ever listen to my podcast I did with Dom D'Agostino?

02:11:41.000 He's a scientist from, I think he's University of Florida, but a ketogenic specialist.

02:11:48.000 Does a lot of keto research and research on fasting and the benefits of fasting.

02:11:52.000 He goes into the scientific benefits, the proven benefits of fasting.

02:11:55.000 Very, very interesting stuff.

02:11:57.000 What were the most...

02:11:59.000 I would really want to direct you to that.

02:12:00.000 I don't want to fuck it up.

02:12:01.000 But it's for prevention of cancer.

02:12:05.000 Really?

02:12:06.000 Yeah, ketone bodies in the blood increase, cognitive improvements.

02:12:10.000 I just think we eat too much.

02:12:11.000 I just think we eat too much.

02:12:12.000 We eat all the time.

02:12:13.000 It's so easy.

02:12:14.000 I like watching TV and snacking.

02:12:16.000 I like to watch a little Netflix and have some snacks.

02:12:19.000 We all do.

02:12:20.000 But if I'm watching Netflix and it's 9 o'clock at night, I really shouldn't be eating anything.

02:12:24.000 Isn't it weird that popcorn became the official food for watching movies?

02:12:29.000 Isn't that weird?

02:12:30.000 I know. 0.99

02:12:30.000 It's loud, chewy and shit. 0.99

02:12:32.000 You can't hear a dialogue. 0.99

02:12:33.000 No one says, hey dude, let's go get some popcorn.

02:12:35.000 No one ever looks for popcorn unless they're at the movies.

02:12:39.000 That's a good point.

02:12:40.000 It's the only time it's for the movies.

02:12:41.000 It's not that good.

02:12:42.000 Maybe at Disneyland.

02:12:44.000 Because it's like, yeah, I forgot about popcorn. 0.98

02:12:46.000 Fucking buy that while I'm here too. 0.98

02:12:48.000 Other than that, like the circus. 0.99

02:12:50.000 Just the movies, man.

02:12:50.000 Circus.

02:12:51.000 Circus.

02:12:52.000 Circus.

02:12:52.000 Circus got peanuts into the mix.

02:12:54.000 Maybe there's something about the popcorn that's genetically modified and it helps with the brainwashing.

02:13:02.000 The popcorn opens you up.

02:13:04.000 It's microwave, dude.

02:13:05.000 That's what it is. 0.99

02:13:06.000 They microwave the kernels and it fucks with your head, bro. 0.98

02:13:10.000 Basically, microwaves just kill everything, right?

02:13:12.000 When you microwave your food, you basically just don't have anything.

02:13:15.000 It's just like...

02:13:16.000 Yeah.

02:13:17.000 Nothing survives a microwave, right?

02:13:19.000 Isn't it crazy that we haven't really improved upon microwaves? 1.00

02:13:22.000 Like, they mastered that shit 40 years ago, and it's still the same goddamn microwaves. 0.99

02:13:27.000 You know what's really bad for you, and they're going to take out of microwave popcorn? 1.00

02:13:30.000 When you get microwave popcorn, there's fats in there that your body just doesn't know what the fuck to do with. 0.90

02:13:35.000 That's why those things can sit on a shelf for so long, those little packets. 0.86

02:13:38.000 Yeah.

02:13:39.000 I think, what is the toxic ingredient in microwave popcorn that they're eliminating?

02:13:45.000 It's hilarious. 1.00

02:13:45.000 They decided, oh, this shit kills you, but we're going to let you sell it for two more years. 1.00

02:13:51.000 They didn't just make it illegal. 1.00

02:13:52.000 They made a moratorium.

02:13:53.000 I think it's trans fats.

02:13:55.000 I think it just might be vegetable oil fats. 0.98

02:13:58.000 There's certain trans fats that your body's just like, what in the fuck is this non-food you're making me eat? 0.98

02:14:08.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:14:08.000 We were talking about delicious protein bars before the show that give you the most unbelievable farts. 0.99

02:14:14.000 That's how I know I shouldn't be eating something.

02:14:15.000 Yeah.

02:14:16.000 If I'm eating something and I'm just lighting the inside of my car on fire, here it is.

02:14:22.000 Chemicals used in a lining of microwavable popcorn bags, including perfluoro...

02:14:45.000 So that's one thing, but I know that they banned trans fats.

02:14:48.000 I might have conflated the two stories. 0.99

02:14:50.000 Because the ban of trans fats is the one where they're giving them all the hostess cakes, those bullshit cakes that sit on the shelf forever. 0.99

02:15:00.000 Ding-dongs are my favorite. 0.99

02:15:03.000 Those pie cakes that you get from hostess, like the lemon filling, those are just trans fats to the gills, son. 0.99

02:15:11.000 The whole Twinkie myth that they last 20 years or whatever.

02:15:14.000 I mean, do people eat Twinkies still?

02:15:17.000 Who's eating Twinkies? 0.97

02:15:18.000 You and I were laying around, fucking bored, smoked a little weed, watching some TV, and I'm so hungry. 0.97

02:15:23.000 What do you got here, man? 0.98

02:15:25.000 And I opened up your cabinet, and you had like ringdings and Twinkies.

02:15:28.000 I might grab a Twinkie.

02:15:28.000 Yeah, if I'm starving.

02:15:29.000 Just laying around, watching TV, chilling.

02:15:33.000 I might eat a Twinkie.

02:15:33.000 Twinkies are like the worst wedding cake ever.

02:15:36.000 It's just...

02:15:36.000 Well, you know what I had last night?

02:15:37.000 I had strawberry shortcake.

02:15:39.000 U.S. popcorn makers could face long, expensive road to lose trans fats.

02:15:44.000 Oh.

02:15:44.000 Okay, this is why I conflated it.

02:15:47.000 Microwave popcorn makers could face a long and difficult task, ridding their snacks of trans fats.

02:15:52.000 U.S. Food and Drug Administration proposal to ban the additive goes into effect.

02:15:57.000 So the U.S. is banning.

02:15:59.000 So the U.S. ban on trans fats is what I... What I got confused with.

02:16:04.000 Isn't it crazy?

02:16:05.000 That U.S. ban on trans fats is like, they're giving these people like two years.

02:16:09.000 Isn't it crazy that they're making a big deal out of this? 0.99

02:16:13.000 They're going after the trans fats, but they don't go after like real shit. 1.00

02:16:17.000 Like alcohol is like killing people all day, every day. 1.00

02:16:21.000 I know, right?

02:16:21.000 It's like you say, why don't you say, hey, this is going to kill you if you keep eating it.

02:16:25.000 Yeah.

02:16:25.000 But it's awesome.

02:16:26.000 But you're going after trans fats?

02:16:28.000 Yeah.

02:16:28.000 Maybe it's like someone in the popcorn industry just pissed off in an Illuminati member going, you don't want to go after them.

02:16:33.000 And this is just like a smear campaign.

02:16:35.000 Well, trans fats, people need to know they're bad for you. 1.00

02:16:38.000 Once they know they're bad for you, should you be able to just take them?

02:16:41.000 What about that one drug that everyone's getting addicted to that's legal?

02:16:46.000 Adderall?

02:16:47.000 No, it's like heroin.

02:16:49.000 It's...

02:16:50.000 Morphine?

02:16:51.000 Fentanyl?

02:16:52.000 No, no.

02:16:53.000 Methadone.

02:16:54.000 Very popular prescription.

02:16:56.000 Oxycontin?

02:16:57.000 Oxycontin.

02:16:58.000 Oh. 0.97

02:16:58.000 Yeah, Oxycontin for sure fucks your life up. 0.97

02:17:01.000 100%.

02:17:02.000 But if you have serious pain, it also alleviates pain.

02:17:05.000 And the thing is, can you just ride it for a few days?

02:17:08.000 And they're going after trans fats here?

02:17:09.000 It's crazy.

02:17:11.000 Yeah.

02:17:12.000 Let them have their popcorn. 1.00

02:17:14.000 Fuck it. 1.00

02:17:14.000 They're making news articles about it. 1.00

02:17:17.000 We're going after trans fat. 1.00

02:17:19.000 What about the 800 kids that go missing every year?

02:17:21.000 Why don't you go look for them?

02:17:22.000 Well, there's a different people.

02:17:23.000 Go look for them.

02:17:24.000 Okay, that's true, but these are different people.

02:17:26.000 These are food scientists.

02:17:27.000 Yeah.

02:17:27.000 But I think the point is that this stuff, that there's other ways to make food.

02:17:31.000 But the thing is, I don't know.

02:17:33.000 What is the benefits of trans fats?

02:17:34.000 Does it make processing easier?

02:17:36.000 Why do they use that as opposed to other healthy fats?

02:17:39.000 Yeah.

02:17:39.000 I don't know why.

02:17:40.000 It probably has something to do with shelf life, maybe?

02:17:43.000 Yes, probably. 0.96

02:17:44.000 That's probably why it fucks you up, too. 0.95

02:17:46.000 You gotta think about what a preservative is, you know? 0.95

02:17:48.000 Like, someone was explaining...

02:17:49.000 Did you see What's Wrong With Wheat?

02:17:51.000 Or What's With Wheat?

02:17:52.000 Did you see that documentary?

02:17:54.000 Maybe.

02:17:55.000 They were talking about Roundup and glyphosate.

02:17:57.000 They were talking about how Roundup, the stuff that they spray on some plants, that they said, well, don't worry, this only affects bacteria.

02:18:05.000 Yeah.

02:18:05.000 In the 50s they said that.

02:18:06.000 Well, this is when they were creating it.

02:18:08.000 And this is one of the reasons why they allowed it to be used.

02:18:10.000 But what they were explaining in this documentary, I don't know if this is true or not, but what they were explaining was, yeah, you have bacteria in your body, dummy.

02:18:17.000 Like, you're taking this stuff into your body.

02:18:19.000 They didn't say it that way.

02:18:20.000 You have bacteria in your body.

02:18:21.000 You're taking the stuff into your body that only kills bacteria.

02:18:24.000 It's going to kill a part of your body.

02:18:25.000 Like, your body is partly bacteria.

02:18:28.000 In fact, there's more bacteria cells in your body than there are human cells.

02:18:32.000 Like, that's just a fact of being a person.

02:18:34.000 So this is a crazy thing that they don't know that.

02:18:37.000 And they either know it, and they did it anyway.

02:18:39.000 Or they didn't know that.

02:18:41.000 In which case, what you were saying earlier, they should have no business telling people what's the good science and the bad science.

02:18:47.000 If they allowed that to go through.

02:18:48.000 Yeah, it's another example of bad science.

02:18:50.000 Well, it's definitely an example of maybe they didn't know when they first came up with the stuff, but as technology has advanced, they haven't eliminated it.

02:19:00.000 Either way, whether they didn't know or they did know and it was a diabolical plan, whatever it is, that science is bogus.

02:19:08.000 Yeah, but should you be allowed, like, we know Diet Coke's terrible for you.

02:19:13.000 Should you be allowed to sell Diet Coke?

02:19:16.000 Do most people know how bad Diet Coke is for you?

02:19:19.000 Or diet soda, I should say.

02:19:21.000 Do most people know?

02:19:22.000 Most people don't.

02:19:23.000 Most people don't.

02:19:24.000 They don't know.

02:19:26.000 I'll have a Diet Coke every now and again.

02:19:28.000 Once a month or so.

02:19:29.000 I'll have a Diet Coke.

02:19:30.000 I've been pretty good at keeping sodas out in my life.

02:19:33.000 I discovered the Pellegrino.

02:19:36.000 Pellegrino is great.

02:19:38.000 Just water with a little sparkles in it.

02:19:40.000 I love it. 0.92

02:19:40.000 I used to struggle with being at a restaurant and struggling with, should I just drink water or can I get a fucking, I'm gonna have a Coke and then I have two Cokes and then I feel guilty all night. 0.92

02:19:52.000 That struggle went on my whole life. 0.74

02:19:54.000 Dude, I've been drinking way too much water lately.

02:19:56.000 But Pellegrino?

02:19:58.000 The Pellegrino, that Imperier, that satisfies me enough.

02:20:04.000 Yeah, Zevia is a good one, too.

02:20:06.000 And there's a couple other, like, flavored waters.

02:20:09.000 They're like more mild.

02:20:11.000 Is carbonated water...

02:20:12.000 Lacroix?

02:20:13.000 Lacroix?

02:20:14.000 Is Pellegrino and carbonated water, is that bad for you?

02:20:17.000 Is it going to come out that we get cancer from that? 0.98

02:20:19.000 Are the bubbles fucking me up? 0.97

02:20:21.000 They are. 0.97

02:20:22.000 What?

02:20:22.000 The soda's not good for your teeth.

02:20:23.000 What do they do?

02:20:24.000 The bubbles are?

02:20:25.000 It's just as bad as soda water is.

02:20:27.000 I mean, it's just not good for your teeth.

02:20:28.000 It is soda water.

02:20:29.000 I mean, isn't Pellegrino soda water?

02:20:30.000 It's the same thing.

02:20:32.000 Carbonated water is bad for your teeth?

02:20:34.000 In mass amounts, I mean like one or two probably not a bad thing. 0.99

02:20:37.000 But what about once it gets in your stomach, do the bubbles like fuck you up? 0.88

02:20:44.000 Illuminati, bro, they're all ideas. 0.97

02:20:45.000 Those ideas in those bubbles are getting you to buy into bonds.

02:20:50.000 Who knows?

02:20:52.000 Maybe they find out that the bubbles in your system do something bad for you.

02:20:58.000 Right?

02:20:59.000 I mean, I wouldn't be surprised.

02:21:00.000 I hope not. 1.00

02:21:01.000 Shit. 1.00

02:21:01.000 I hope it's completely benign. 1.00

02:21:03.000 I think we have heard about it. 0.99

02:21:04.000 I drink the shit out of it. 1.00

02:21:06.000 I do too. 0.99

02:21:06.000 Here, along as it's plain carbonated water with no added citric acid or sugar, the answer is no. 0.99

02:21:11.000 The process of carbonation is a simple addition of pasteurized, pressurized carbon dioxide gas into plain water.

02:21:18.000 Acid, sugars, and salt are not being added.

02:21:20.000 It's the addition of those ingredients that ups your risk for tooth decay.

02:21:24.000 So, no harm at all.

02:21:26.000 So it's just carbonated water is just carbon dioxide gas.

02:21:29.000 Or maybe that's an Illuminati.

02:21:31.000 Dude, stop freaking me out, man!

02:21:33.000 Did you know that funguses, like mushrooms, they breathe in oxygen and breathe out carbon dioxide like we do?

02:21:40.000 Does that make it good?

02:21:41.000 It's like an animal, more than it is like a plant.

02:21:44.000 They're closer to animals than they are to plants.

02:21:47.000 Fungus.

02:21:47.000 Yeah, fungus are like an animal almost.

02:21:50.000 Not really because it doesn't move.

02:21:51.000 I mean, but it's closer to the animal kingdom.

02:21:54.000 Ringer moves.

02:21:54.000 It gets bigger and bigger and bigger.

02:21:57.000 Fuck that fungus. 1.00

02:21:58.000 That's the worst, man. 1.00

02:21:59.000 That's the worst.

02:22:00.000 But, like, mushrooms are, um, they're some sort of other thing.

02:22:05.000 They're not a plant.

02:22:07.000 Fungus is a different kind of thing.

02:22:10.000 Dun, dun, dun. 1.00

02:22:13.000 It's from another fucking planet, man. 1.00

02:22:14.000 That's what I think. 1.00

02:22:15.000 You think...

02:22:16.000 Mushrooms aren't legal, right?

02:22:17.000 There's not recreational mushrooms, right?

02:22:19.000 It's on the ballot for 2018. That's coming?

02:22:21.000 California.

02:22:21.000 Any states already legalized mushrooms?

02:22:23.000 No, but they should.

02:22:24.000 They should do it the same way they do what they're going to eventually do with MDMA. Look, mushrooms are great.

02:22:29.000 So MDMA is in the process, right?

02:22:31.000 Do you remember the first time you and I did mushrooms?

02:22:33.000 You were living at your old house?

02:22:34.000 We were chilling in the backyard, dude.

02:22:36.000 We didn't do that much, though.

02:22:37.000 We were just talking about life.

02:22:38.000 Yeah, we didn't.

02:22:39.000 It wasn't that much.

02:22:39.000 It was a small dose.

02:22:40.000 But it was enough to go, whoa.

02:22:42.000 It just gave me a better perspective.

02:22:44.000 It just opened up my mind to that I was relying on all the patterns that had been explained to me about life to be correct.

02:22:56.000 Instead of looking at it with fresh eyes.

02:22:59.000 I felt like at 30 years old, it was the first time I was able to look at my life with fresh eyes.

02:23:04.000 Look at life itself and go, oh, this is just this weird, temporary experience.

02:23:08.000 You could see it in your comedy, too.

02:23:09.000 Your comedy just, you know, from the early Joe Rogan, like your first CD, Someday I'm Gonna Be Dead, right?

02:23:17.000 I'm Gonna Be Dead Someday.

02:23:18.000 I'm Gonna Be Dead Someday.

02:23:19.000 From that comedy to once you started getting into psychedelics, big old difference.

02:23:23.000 Yeah, it changes who you are.

02:23:25.000 Well, it also makes you super humble.

02:23:28.000 Because even if I don't appear humble, when you get hit by that big dose, whatever it is, DMT or whatever you do, when you get hit by that dose, you realize you're just a part.

02:23:39.000 You're not the big thing.

02:23:41.000 You're just a part of something that is indescribably big. 0.92

02:23:45.000 And the idea that you're important or that you're the most significant thing around you is pretty ridiculous. 0.86

02:23:50.000 You got to do your best to keep your body alive and do your best to do your part and whatever the fuck you do for a living do your best at that but You're just a part of something that's infinite. 0.93

02:24:01.000 Did your experience with mushrooms and DMT did that make you think? 1.00

02:24:09.000 There's got to be a creator to all this Not that there's a creator like a guy in a lab that's like making a person inside of a fucking test tube or some shit. 0.98

02:24:19.000 Not a creator in the sense of an individual, but I think that the idea of an individual became more ridiculous than anything. 0.71

02:24:25.000 It's like I understand that like what we are is almost like something filtered through these predetermined, like almost like we're a membrane, like something from another dimension Expresses itself through this physical membrane, and then we're almost like the barrier to what comes out on the other side.

02:24:43.000 This is the thought that I had when I was on mushrooms.

02:24:45.000 That what we are as a person is almost like the carrier, like a vehicle for whatever a soul is.

02:24:54.000 And this thing uses this life to pass that that thing through on to another experience that happens in the next dimension that'll be so fucking alien that you can't even imagine it today in this dimension and this dimension would be alien to that dimension that it was just this never-ending infinite process of soul traveling I had this very bizarre like thought about like if you like people will often say like if you had to live your life over again you were born again tomorrow you got to do it all over again could

02:25:24.000 you do it you'd be like what Oh my god, I gotta start over from scratch?

02:25:28.000 I gotta be a baby again? 1.00

02:25:30.000 And rely on those same fucking people again? 1.00

02:25:32.000 Oh my god, I gotta go back to first grade? 1.00

02:25:35.000 That was terrible!

02:25:36.000 And that's when my parents broke up.

02:25:38.000 And people start freaking out and thinking, but you already did it.

02:25:41.000 You already did it.

02:25:41.000 What if you have to do it forever?

02:25:43.000 Could you do it forever?

02:25:44.000 Forever and ever and ever.

02:25:45.000 Over and over and over and over and over again.

02:25:47.000 Could you do that?

02:25:47.000 Like reincarnation?

02:25:48.000 You might be doing that.

02:25:49.000 That is just as possible.

02:25:52.000 What hit me is it's just as possible that you've lived this life an infinite number of times.

02:25:57.000 And you will continue to live this life an infinite number of times.

02:25:59.000 And when you do, maybe...

02:26:01.000 So you're saying there's a possibility that we have some kind of soul type thing, right?

02:26:04.000 I think there's a possibility that you're on a loop.

02:26:07.000 Just like those YouTube videos or those Instagram videos of Cyborg hitting that sweep.

02:26:12.000 We're on a life loop.

02:26:13.000 So if there is a loop, and let's say either it's involuntary or voluntary, either you say, either when you die you wake up and you're like, whoa, that was an awesome ride, let's do it again, or it just happens automatically.

02:26:27.000 I don't think you get the choice.

02:26:29.000 Either way, maybe you do, maybe you don't.

02:26:30.000 Some spiritual gurus say that yes, some souls choose to keep coming back, some stay in the infinite heavens forever or whatever.

02:26:39.000 And then come back every now and then.

02:26:41.000 Who knows what's real?

02:26:42.000 But you're talking about there's some kind of soul thing and there's either...

02:26:48.000 You're saying that there's probably involuntary reincarnation of some sort, right?

02:26:54.000 I think it's possible.

02:26:56.000 Maybe either if you decide to come back, for sure, if that's the case...

02:27:05.000 You would say, okay, I'm going back into that earth realm and you for sure don't want to know where you came from.

02:27:14.000 It would seem, I'm guessing, that the beauty of life is after you die and you realize what the hell, oh, that's right.

02:27:21.000 You don't want to know.

02:27:24.000 It's like watching a movie.

02:27:25.000 Like the other day I watched a movie and I'm watching the trailer and 30 seconds into the trailer is unsaying the movie.

02:27:30.000 30 seconds, I stopped it.

02:27:32.000 Because I didn't want to watch the rest of the trailer because now, okay, I got enough.

02:27:36.000 I want to see this thing.

02:27:37.000 I didn't want to see more of the trailer because I wanted to go to the movie and be fooled.

02:27:40.000 I didn't want to know what was going on.

02:27:42.000 I wanted to be confused.

02:27:44.000 I didn't want to be able to figure something out from a trailer.

02:27:47.000 And most people are like that.

02:27:49.000 I'm not special. 0.71

02:27:49.000 Like if you went to a movie and you already saw it and your buddy didn't and you told him how it ended, he would sock you right in the chest. 0.71

02:27:55.000 What the fuck are you doing? 1.00

02:27:56.000 You just ruined the movie for me, you faggot. 1.00

02:27:58.000 You know what I mean? 1.00

02:27:59.000 Strong words.

02:27:59.000 But I don't mean that in a homosexual way.

02:28:01.000 I'm sorry.

02:28:02.000 I'm just...

02:28:02.000 Trying to be funny, and I apologize to all gay people out there.

02:28:05.000 I apologize.

02:28:06.000 I love gay people.

02:28:07.000 I love gay people.

02:28:08.000 That was just me trying to express an emotion.

02:28:11.000 And no one's also at the same time going to go to a movie with you if you already saw it and say, dude, before it starts, tell me the whole movie.

02:28:17.000 I think a better analogy is that you never get a chance to see the future.

02:28:20.000 You're not going to get a chance to see the future once you're reborn again.

02:28:23.000 This life, when you come back, do you want to have a memory of your past?

02:28:26.000 You don't.

02:28:26.000 You don't get a chance.

02:28:27.000 It's a part of the system, I think.

02:28:29.000 Yeah, I think it's, whether it's voluntary or involuntary, it's best to not know where you came from at first.

02:28:36.000 It's best to figure it out.

02:28:39.000 That's probably what this is all about, is figuring it out.

02:28:42.000 Because when we go to the movie, part of it is, it's all about the journey.

02:28:45.000 It's not about the destination.

02:28:47.000 People always use that as, you know, on Instagram.

02:28:49.000 Right.

02:28:49.000 I thought about the journey or thought about the destination.

02:28:51.000 It's a journey.

02:28:52.000 That's one of the most popular sayings ever, and it's beautiful.

02:28:55.000 You have to say it every now and then to remind people.

02:28:58.000 Another thing to remind you, don't even think about it as a journey.

02:29:01.000 Just be in the moment.

02:29:02.000 Accept the moment and be in the moment.

02:29:04.000 Live in the moment.

02:29:05.000 Think about the We're good to go.

02:29:32.000 Filled, you know, with chicks. 0.99

02:29:34.000 Oh, that's what I was after my whole life.

02:29:38.000 They got me good. 0.99

02:29:39.000 When I saw Kiss and I saw that shit, I'm like, I want that. 0.99

02:29:43.000 I knew right when I saw Kiss Meets the Phantom of the Park, 1978 on NBC, one of the worst movies of all time. 0.99

02:29:50.000 I remember that movie. 0.98

02:29:51.000 Oh, it just blew me the fuck away. 0.92

02:29:54.000 It was a power outage when I went to see that movie. 0.97

02:29:56.000 Oh my God.

02:29:56.000 I was watching at home, and the power went out, and I was devastated.

02:29:58.000 And the weird thing about that era, it was 1978, and if you followed Kiss, if you were older, I was eight, and if you followed Kiss from 73 on, they already had their early cool years, and then after Kiss Alive, they had a few more awesome albums,

02:30:14.000 and then they got to the point where they started doing disco, and that was 1978. That's when I got into them, when they started doing disco.

02:30:21.000 So I didn't even know what selling out was.

02:30:23.000 I just heard, I was made for loving you, and I loved it.

02:30:25.000 You know what I mean?

02:30:26.000 I had no idea. 0.98

02:30:27.000 But, man, I don't even know what my fucking point was. 0.98

02:30:30.000 What were we talking about? 0.98

02:30:31.000 I don't remember either.

02:30:33.000 The point was you're never going to get to know what the future holds.

02:30:36.000 You're just going to be living your life, and that's how it is with everybody. 0.99

02:30:40.000 I don't remember what the fuck your point was. 0.98

02:30:42.000 Oh, the rock star thing. 0.99

02:30:43.000 Oh, you wanted to be a rock star.

02:30:45.000 They get you.

02:30:47.000 There's so many different ways they can, like, TV. You get yourself, too.

02:30:53.000 You've got to think about what you're exposed to.

02:30:55.000 But look, it's like music videos.

02:30:56.000 What they sell in music videos, they sell that.

02:30:58.000 It's like they're offering it.

02:31:00.000 And a lot of those rappers that are flashing all the cash, it's not even their money.

02:31:04.000 It's not even their mansion.

02:31:05.000 But it's pushing that.

02:31:08.000 You want to do whatever it takes.

02:31:11.000 Whatever it takes to make it.

02:31:13.000 I was so zeroed in on that.

02:31:15.000 You know me up until a few years ago.

02:31:18.000 I was just zeroed in on it. 0.96

02:31:20.000 Then I began to realize, wow, they got me real goddamn good.

02:31:24.000 You know, I was obsessed with some, an illusion. 0.52

02:31:28.000 Fame is an illusion.

02:31:29.000 Well, you're obsessed with the destination instead of the journey, right?

02:31:32.000 Well, I enjoyed the journey, but it was like...

02:31:34.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:31:35.000 You're obsessed with it.

02:31:36.000 It was all about conquering the music business.

02:31:39.000 That's all it was about.

02:31:40.000 And it's not about that anymore, obviously.

02:31:42.000 Thank God. 0.98

02:31:43.000 Thank God I sucked musically. 1.00

02:31:44.000 Because if I would have had a record deal in my 20s, shit, I would have did some crazy Illuminati shit back then. 1.00

02:31:50.000 I would have did whatever. 1.00

02:31:51.000 Illuminati shit? 1.00

02:31:52.000 Like, whatever. 1.00

02:31:52.000 I would have been to those parties with a crazy mask and been doing... 1.00

02:31:56.000 I would do whatever.

02:31:57.000 I'm like, let's do it.

02:31:58.000 They have parties with the crazy masks.

02:31:59.000 Eyes Wide Shut?

02:32:00.000 They just let you in.

02:32:00.000 You don't think Eyes Wide Shut is real?

02:32:01.000 All you have to do is have a hit album.

02:32:02.000 They're like, hey, Eddie Bravo.

02:32:04.000 Eddie Bravo from Santa Ana.

02:32:05.000 Come on, California.

02:32:06.000 Come on down. 1.00

02:32:07.000 Thank God my music sucked because I would have went along with all that shit in my 20s. 1.00

02:32:11.000 I was so obsessed. 1.00

02:32:12.000 I was so obsessed with making it into the music business, I would have done anything.

02:32:15.000 I know, but you wouldn't have done that.

02:32:16.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:32:17.000 You wouldn't have gone and partied with Jimmy Savile or whatever the fuck his name is. 0.94

02:32:20.000 Dude, I would have been hanging out with whoever was famous, you know? 0.97

02:32:24.000 That's hilarious. 1.00

02:32:24.000 Shit. 1.00

02:32:25.000 Well, you know, it's like retirement is a lesser example of that. 1.00

02:32:28.000 People are always looking for those golden years.

02:32:30.000 One day I'm going to retire and we're going to be walking with our hands at the sunset.

02:32:34.000 Like, no, you're thinking about death then.

02:32:35.000 That's what happens. 1.00

02:32:36.000 Those people don't do shit anymore. 0.99

02:32:38.000 They don't have nothing to do. 0.99

02:32:39.000 You know, the only time you should think about retirement is if you have a job that you can retire and they pay you still. 0.98

02:32:44.000 And then you can go do whatever the fuck you want. 0.95

02:32:46.000 That's when you should be thinking about retirement. 0.99

02:32:48.000 But thinking about it is this time where finally we get to relax.

02:32:51.000 We put our feet up and then they turn you into Soylent Green.

02:32:54.000 Yeah.

02:32:56.000 That's what you were really aiming for.

02:32:58.000 And everyone is working to get that vacation at some faraway beach where they can have a beer.

02:33:07.000 And the destination is that they go far away at least five to eight hours.

02:33:11.000 You can't just use the beaches you have here.

02:33:13.000 These beaches don't count.

02:33:14.000 They count for people on the East Coast.

02:33:17.000 They count because they come here.

02:33:18.000 But you live here, so it doesn't count. 0.99

02:33:19.000 You got to get on a flight and go to a goddamn beach that looks just like Malibu. 0.99

02:33:24.000 Just like now. 0.99

02:33:25.000 But you gotta travel.

02:33:25.000 Gotta go across the country.

02:33:26.000 You gotta go.

02:33:27.000 You gotta go to Fiji.

02:33:27.000 Go over the ocean or go to Mexico.

02:33:29.000 It's an illusion.

02:33:30.000 Everyone's chasing that beach.

02:33:31.000 And then what are you gonna do on that beach?

02:33:32.000 The first thing you're gonna do is check to see if there's internet. 0.99

02:33:34.000 That's the first fucking thing you're gonna do. 0.98

02:33:37.000 Right? 1.00

02:33:38.000 It's an illusion.

02:33:39.000 And then every time you go to the airport, you see that picture of like some dude just laying there on some deserted beach.

02:33:45.000 Like that's even possible.

02:33:47.000 I thought that was possible.

02:33:49.000 Where's the beach that's deserted?

02:33:50.000 Like you have your own deserted beach. 0.99

02:33:53.000 You don't see that off camera, out of the frame of the picture, is a bunch of people trying to sell you an inner tube and some people trying to rip you off and sell you shit. 0.98

02:34:04.000 They don't show that part. 0.99

02:34:05.000 They just show your feet.

02:34:06.000 They show your feet in a beer.

02:34:08.000 If you have a perfect beach like that, you're going to sell it to a bunch of people.

02:34:11.000 It's not just going to be this one dude.

02:34:12.000 Unless you're one of those Richard Branson guys.

02:34:14.000 That's when you go full ball or you got your own beach.

02:34:16.000 What?

02:34:17.000 Yes, yes.

02:34:18.000 What?

02:34:18.000 Those only exist for Jay-Z. You know what I mean?

02:34:21.000 You got to buy an island.

02:34:22.000 Well, those Richard Branson type dudes or Tyler Perry.

02:34:24.000 He's got an island.

02:34:25.000 Man, it just seems like these vacations are all like rip-offs. 0.97

02:34:28.000 I remember me and my wife went to Cabo San Lucas and we looked at the package and like, oh shit, let's get this resort. 0.95

02:34:35.000 There's five different restaurants. 0.96

02:34:38.000 Amazing, all-inclusive.

02:34:39.000 This is amazing.

02:34:41.000 You get there and it's the same kitchen, five different restaurants, but only one is open at a time.

02:34:46.000 They just take different shifts and it's the same waiters, the same food. 0.98

02:34:50.000 Oh, you went to a bonk-ass place. 1.00

02:34:52.000 Yeah! 0.84

02:34:52.000 I gotta send you to good places. 0.84

02:34:54.000 There's some good places you can go.

02:34:55.000 There's a good place in Cabo.

02:34:58.000 It's called the one and only Parmia.

02:35:00.000 I'll never go back there ever again.

02:35:02.000 Cabo's amazing.

02:35:03.000 I love it.

02:35:04.000 Oh, man.

02:35:05.000 When you land there, everyone's trying to rip you off.

02:35:07.000 They're throwing up.

02:35:08.000 Yeah, that happens.

02:35:10.000 What about Hawaii?

02:35:10.000 Do you like Hawaii?

02:35:12.000 If someone gave me a non-stop first-class ticket to Hawaii and a five-star hotel for two weeks, I wouldn't go.

02:35:20.000 Why not?

02:35:21.000 I've traveled so much, it's an illusion to me.

02:35:23.000 Oh, I see what you're saying. 0.99

02:35:24.000 All my shit is at home. 1.00

02:35:26.000 I want to sit in my house and look out the window and go, fuck yeah. 1.00

02:35:30.000 I want to chill. 0.99

02:35:32.000 I want to be with my family.

02:35:33.000 I want to be with my son.

02:35:34.000 It's an illusion.

02:35:36.000 I'm going to travel with my family for them, but I've traveled so much, to me it's an illusion.

02:35:40.000 I've never been to a place where I was pissed that I was leaving.

02:35:44.000 I was always ready to go.

02:35:46.000 Like, dude, you want to change our flights and leave early? 0.98

02:35:48.000 Shit, when we went to Cabo, we changed our flights and left early. 0.99

02:35:51.000 Wow. 0.99

02:35:52.000 Like, what are you gonna sit on a beach?

02:35:53.000 We got that right here.

02:35:54.000 We go to Santa Monica.

02:35:55.000 We got a free vacation.

02:35:57.000 Me and my family get hotels because my son loves hotels.

02:36:01.000 We just get a hotel in Burbank.

02:36:02.000 Like a VIP hotel in Burbank where you got like this gigantic room and we stay there for a day.

02:36:08.000 You gotta just do, we'll talk after the podcast.

02:36:10.000 Just do vacations the right way.

02:36:12.000 There's ways that you could do, go ziplining in Costa Rica, go to the rainforest.

02:36:15.000 Dude, I got tricked into going to Costa Rica.

02:36:17.000 I told you that story.

02:36:18.000 I'll never go to Costa Rica ever again, okay?

02:36:20.000 Unless it's for a seminar.

02:36:22.000 I'll go for a seminar, like a jiu-jitsu seminar, but I ain't trying to go to the jungle or anything like that. 1.00

02:36:27.000 Fuck that shit. 1.00

02:36:28.000 We gotta wrap this up because I'm gonna piss my pants. 1.00

02:36:30.000 I've been drinking too much water.

02:36:31.000 Can I throw a plug down?

02:36:32.000 Yes. 1.00

02:36:32.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00

02:36:32.000 Me and Sam Tripoli are doing tinfoil hat comedy in San Francisco at Cobbs June 1st and June 2nd at the Punchline in Sacramento. 1.00

02:36:45.000 Thanks for the shirt. 0.99

02:36:47.000 Oh, shit. 0.99

02:36:48.000 Combat Jiu-Jitsu, baby. 1.00

02:36:48.000 Combat Jiu-Jitsu Worlds, Eddie Bravo's birth child. 1.00

02:36:51.000 Along with EBI, the EBI Invitational. 0.99

02:36:54.000 Best fucking Jiu-Jitsu tournament in the world. 1.00

02:36:56.000 But this, this is the shit. 1.00

02:36:58.000 Combat Jiu-Jitsu, we've talked about it a million times. 0.99

02:36:59.000 This is going to change Jiu-Jitsu.

02:37:01.000 Make it much more applicable to MMA. Positions on the ground where dudes are allowed to bitch slap you. 1.00

02:37:05.000 It's strong. 0.98

02:37:06.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

02:37:07.000 People love it.

02:37:07.000 It's great.

02:37:08.000 It's super exciting.

02:37:09.000 It's the fastest rising video ever on my YouTube channel.

02:37:12.000 It got to 300,000 views in a month.

02:37:15.000 It's next level.

02:37:15.000 None of my other videos get that kind of views.

02:37:17.000 It was crazy.

02:37:18.000 It's next level and it shows these positions where the vulnerabilities are.

02:37:21.000 So it's like a real good first step in MMA. I like it a lot.

02:37:24.000 Boogie is fighting Wagner Rocha for the Combat Jiu-Jitsu World Championship at EBI. The next EBI, which is in San Diego, June 24th.

02:37:33.000 It's a 16-woman tournament. 1.00

02:37:38.000 The Combat Jiu Jitsu World Championship of Boogie against Wagner Rocha.

02:37:42.000 And we got amazing women. 0.86

02:37:45.000 We got all ADCC IBJJF champions.

02:37:49.000 Bia Basilio, she's the best chick out there. 1.00

02:37:52.000 Bia Mesquita, she's right there at the top. 0.55

02:37:56.000 So one more time, the date and what's the website?

02:37:58.000 You can watch it on UFC Fight Pass.

02:38:00.000 It's going to be at, or pay-per-view, inchbyinch.tv, June 24th, Sunday, June 24th, in San Diego.

02:38:07.000 Tickets go on sale in a couple weeks.

02:38:09.000 It's going to be amazing.

02:38:11.000 All right.

02:38:12.000 That's it.

02:38:12.000 Bye, everybody.

02:38:13.000 See you tomorrow.

02:38:14.000 See ya.

02:38:15.000 Cool.

02:38:16.000 Thank you. 0.52

02:38:18.000 Man, that three hours flew by so goddamn quick. 0.94

The Joe Rogan Experience - April 02, 2018

Joe Rogan Experience #1098 - Eddie Bravo

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