The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1156 - Jimmy Dore

00:00:03.000 In 4, 3, 2, 1. Hey, Jimmy!

00:00:09.000 What's up?

00:00:11.000 Hi, Joe.

00:00:11.000 How you doing, buddy?

00:00:12.000 I'm doing good.

00:00:13.000 Now we're on the radio.

00:00:14.000 Fantastic.

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00:00:18.000 Here's Val with the weather.

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00:00:20.000 Hot as fuck. 1.00

00:00:21.000 Back to you, Jimmy. 1.00

00:00:22.000 So we got a car fire in the breakdown lane.

00:00:25.000 So you were getting emotional in the green room listening to Henry Rollins talk about Putin.

00:00:30.000 You were about to quote Chomsky.

00:00:32.000 Who was that?

00:00:33.000 I just caught the end of it.

00:00:35.000 I went in the green room.

00:00:36.000 Everybody loves Henry Rollins, right?

00:00:38.000 Except Henry.

00:00:41.000 That's why he's so good.

00:00:43.000 He's constantly grinding.

00:00:45.000 Yeah.

00:00:45.000 But he was doing that thing about, oh, Putin, you know, there was a journalist who wrote a book about him, ended up dead.

00:00:51.000 Putin's a bad guy. 0.97

00:00:52.000 He's a bad guy.

00:00:53.000 As opposed to who?

00:00:55.000 Well, no, but you mean he's definitely a bad guy, right?

00:00:58.000 We all agree with that.

00:00:59.000 Yeah.

00:00:59.000 Of course.

00:01:00.000 But, I mean, just because other people are also bad guys doesn't negate his point of Putin being a bad guy.

00:01:06.000 What he was saying is just that it's very bizarre that the Republicans, these people that were, you know, at the forefront of the Cold War, these ones who, you know, these are the people that remember Khrushchev banging on the desk, you know, saying, we'll bury you with Kennedy.

00:01:21.000 These people are now...

00:01:23.000 Like, they're whitewashing Putin.

00:01:26.000 They're essentially, like, trying to paint out Putin to be a good guy because Trump is in this position where he's trying to be friends with this guy.

00:01:35.000 So...

00:01:35.000 Well, here's the quote I wanted to send you, right?

00:01:39.000 So that whole thing.

00:01:40.000 If Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged, says Noam Chomsky.

00:01:49.000 Putin kills journalists.

00:01:50.000 We just torture ours.

00:01:52.000 I mean, Chelsea Manning is a whistleblower. 1.00

00:01:54.000 We took Barack Obama torturer.

00:01:56.000 So we have our president, we have presidents and vice presidents who are legit war criminals that walk around today.

00:02:05.000 They had a torture program, okay?

00:02:07.000 So, you know, Barack Obama got a peace prize and then he had a kill list.

00:02:11.000 A peace prize went in with a kill list.

00:02:14.000 A drone?

00:02:14.000 Would you keep the kill list next to the Peace Prize?

00:02:17.000 Where do you keep those two things?

00:02:20.000 Not only that, some of the people that were killed were American citizens with no due process.

00:02:24.000 With no due process. 0.66

00:02:25.000 And so nobody has a problem with Trump being buddy-buddies with Benjamin Netanyahu, who is a psychopathic maniac who shoots with precision medics who are trying to help people and nurses, and journalists, by the way. 0.82

00:02:40.000 Well, he doesn't, but some is really true. 0.88

00:02:41.000 Right.

00:02:42.000 Israeli troops do that.

00:02:43.000 That's a really depressing thing.

00:02:45.000 You know, I had Abby Martin on, and she sort of illuminated that whole situation to me.

00:02:49.000 I really didn't know how bad it was, nor did she until she went over there.

00:02:53.000 Right.

00:02:54.000 And, you know, just experiencing what it's like.

00:02:57.000 It's crazy that people that went through the Holocaust that realized the cost of dehumanizing an entire race of people now are capable, at least some of them are capable, of doing that to the Palestinians. 0.88

00:03:11.000 Yeah, it's kind of mind-blowing.

00:03:12.000 So I wanted to hear, and I have friends who do, everyone's doing this, right?

00:03:16.000 Everyone's getting caught up in this hysteria.

00:03:18.000 That's why there's a word called hysteria, because it happens, and we're in one.

00:03:22.000 And, you know, what I like is what Noam Chomsky said about this Russia hysteria that's happening.

00:03:27.000 He said, if you care about effects on our pristine elections, which he said very sarcastically, he said, if you care about what's affecting our pristine elections, the Russiagate is the last place I would look.

00:03:39.000 In the first place he would look, if you go read about foreign control or influence on our government, he said he would look to Israel.

00:03:46.000 They're the ones.

00:03:46.000 Benjamin Netanyahu came here and addressed the joint session of Congress without the permission or invitation of the president.

00:03:54.000 Remember when Obama was president and he did that?

00:03:56.000 He did that!

00:03:56.000 That's a guy coming here to tell our guys how to vote in direct defiance of our president.

00:04:01.000 And everyone embraced him.

00:04:02.000 Can you imagine if Putin did that?

00:04:03.000 Putin came to America and addressed a joint session of Congress against the will of the president?

00:04:08.000 So this idea that somehow because Putin is a bad guy, Trump shouldn't have a good friendship with him is BS. The guys who are really influencing our government here are Benjamin Netanyahu, Saudi Arabia.

00:04:19.000 Trump opened eight businesses in Saudi Arabia during the election. 0.80

00:04:23.000 No one gives a crap about any of that stuff because they're our friends. 0.93

00:04:27.000 Saudi Arabia, by the way, just bombed a school. 0.98

00:04:29.000 Today.

00:04:30.000 School bus, 29 kids dead.

00:04:32.000 So yeah, I just retweeted that from Sarah Abdullah.

00:04:34.000 So why would they do that?

00:04:36.000 Because they're in Yemen. 0.96

00:04:37.000 They're bombing.

00:04:38.000 We're committing genocide in Yemen right now. 0.99

00:04:41.000 So we're helping Saudi Arabia commit a genocide in Yemen. 0.65

00:04:45.000 And the way we're doing it is they're doing a thing called siege warfare, which is a war crime.

00:04:50.000 And in fact, they just prosecuted someone a few months ago at The Hague for it.

00:04:55.000 But since we're doing it and we're the enforcers...

00:04:59.000 And Saudi Arabia is on the Human Rights Council.

00:05:01.000 So everything's a joke now, right?

00:05:03.000 So we're past it.

00:05:04.000 It's a farce.

00:05:05.000 We're living in this farce.

00:05:06.000 And so when I see a guy that I love, like Henry Rollins, saying stuff like, oh, Putin's this special kind of bad, I just quote back Chomsky. 0.87

00:05:14.000 We have legit war criminals just one presidency away. 0.66

00:05:19.000 Do you think he's a step removed from that, though?

00:05:22.000 I mean, he'll assassinate journalists in his own country and criticize him.

00:05:26.000 Right now we're trying to assassinate Julian Assange.

00:05:29.000 Do you think we're trying to assassinate him?

00:05:30.000 That's what they're trying to do? 0.99

00:05:31.000 Yes, they're trying to kill that guy. 1.00

00:05:33.000 Yes, they want that guy dead. 0.99

00:05:35.000 Hillary Clinton was like, can't we drone that guy? 1.00

00:05:37.000 Can't we kill him? 0.99

00:05:38.000 Yeah, she really did say that. 0.99

00:05:39.000 Yeah, she really did say that after she just got done killing Gaddafi and then laughed about it.

00:05:44.000 Yeah, we've played that several times.

00:05:46.000 We came, we saw, he died! 1.00

00:05:50.000 The fact that any human being would ever do that, and by the way, the way he died, that's some dark shit. 1.00

00:05:58.000 They watched and they stabbed him in the asshole, and there's a video of them stabbing him in the asshole while he's standing there, just confused, not knowing what to do, and this guy's jamming a sword up his ass. 1.00

00:06:07.000 Have you seen the video? 1.00

00:06:08.000 Yes!

00:06:08.000 Oh, I have not seen that.

00:06:09.000 Oh my god, it's awful.

00:06:10.000 You want to see it?

00:06:11.000 No.

00:06:11.000 The video of them capturing him is fascinating because it's a guy who has lived with an iron fist, controlled these people, been a brutal dictator, been a horrible monster of a human being.

00:06:23.000 Now all of a sudden these rebels have captured him.

00:06:32.000 Yeah.

00:06:47.000 I have seen video of him captured, and that look on his face, so I know what you're talking about. 1.00

00:06:52.000 Just the guy shoving a knife up his ass. 0.99

00:06:58.000 I hit a dog with my car a while ago, and I just have no stomach for any of that stuff anymore. 1.00

00:07:07.000 I had a real breakdown.

00:07:11.000 We took it to the vet, it lived...

00:07:15.000 I hit a dog that killed it about a year and a half ago.

00:07:20.000 It might have already been dead.

00:07:22.000 It might have been dead?

00:07:23.000 Because I think it was laying in the street.

00:07:25.000 Oh, Jesus.

00:07:26.000 Because I didn't see it.

00:07:28.000 So it had to be already laying there.

00:07:29.000 Anyways, so it, you know, I just, and then I saw, I was driving to my pot store in Eagle Rock, and I saw this little black pup dog run across the street in front of our car, and there's this big median, like a grass median, and it was, and I go,

00:07:45.000 stop, stop, and the cars hasn't started coming yet the other way, and I stop, so my wife stops, and I jump out, and I'm running, and And I see the cars coming, and I don't see the dog anymore.

00:07:55.000 And then I see the dog next to the curb, and it's kind of like just going like that, and it just crushed me.

00:08:04.000 Even now that I think of it.

00:08:05.000 So it's twitching like it got hit?

00:08:06.000 Yes, it got hit.

00:08:08.000 And so we picked it up, and we drove to the hospital as soon as we could.

00:08:14.000 I mean, you know, an animal hospital, which there was one not far away.

00:08:17.000 And it lived.

00:08:18.000 The dog lived, but I couldn't believe it.

00:08:21.000 Did you take it as a pet?

00:08:22.000 No, no, no, no.

00:08:27.000 My wife called back to the thing, and they said, yeah, it's going to live, and we have someone that's going to take it.

00:08:34.000 Like, oh, okay, thank God.

00:08:35.000 But I was so surprised at how I just broke down over that puppy.

00:08:39.000 The dog I ran over, I was, like, numb to.

00:08:42.000 But that dog, for some reason, it just, everything opened, and I was just, I couldn't.

00:08:47.000 I was such a basket case.

00:08:48.000 It's hard.

00:08:49.000 Puppies are so cute.

00:08:50.000 You see a puppy that gets hit by a car. 1.00

00:08:52.000 That's sad shit. 0.99

00:08:53.000 And so it's just like, I can see, and I feel like, I don't know if I have this, but I feel like I have PTSD over that, right? 0.99

00:09:02.000 Like, I way overreacted to that situation.

00:09:05.000 So there was a lot more going on there.

00:09:07.000 So when someone says something like the Qaddafi video, you're like, I can't, I can't.

00:09:11.000 Yeah, so I can't even imagine guys who have to go to war and the stuff they have to see and the things that they have to do.

00:09:17.000 I don't know how they all don't come home.

00:09:19.000 Do you know anybody who went over there?

00:09:21.000 Yeah, I've been to Afghanistan.

00:09:24.000 Soldiers, I mean?

00:09:27.000 Yeah, I mean, not personally, like they come to my show, that kind of stuff.

00:09:31.000 I know those people.

00:09:32.000 I don't have a close friend who was actually in combat like that, no.

00:09:36.000 I have a few close friends that have been in combat and when they start drinking and that's when, you know, inhibitions get loosened up and then stories start flowing and, you know, it's...

00:09:47.000 Most people, it's not something people are designed to see, you know?

00:09:52.000 Especially not when no one else is seeing it.

00:09:54.000 The thing is, if we all lived in the Roman times and everybody was getting sorted up every day and people getting hit with arrows all the time, it's a normal part of life.

00:10:02.000 People start accepting the fact that there's going to be loss.

00:10:05.000 But there's something about living today where the majority of human beings live in this uber safe environment that's probably more safe than any people have ever lived ever.

00:10:14.000 And just overall in general, like the modern Western civilization. 0.95

00:10:19.000 But then you're going over to Afghanistan and you're dealing with bombings and schools and buses and sniper attacks and your buddy just lost a leg from an IED and that kind of shit just wears on a person. 0.98

00:10:34.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:10:38.000 I can't believe we still do war like this. 0.99

00:10:41.000 See, I get in a lot of trouble because I'm anti-war, and all wars are bullshit. 0.98

00:10:46.000 How do you get in trouble because you're anti-war? 0.98

00:10:48.000 Well, for instance, pro-war.

00:10:50.000 The entire establishment.

00:10:51.000 It's pro-war. 0.98

00:10:52.000 You know that.

00:10:53.000 Every newscaster is pro-war.

00:10:54.000 If you're not pro-war, you don't get on TV. If you're against the war, you get fired like Phil Donahue, like Ed Schultz, like Jesse Ventura, like Ashley Banfield.

00:11:03.000 Like Chris Hedges.

00:11:05.000 If you tell the truth about the war, you will get fired from establishment news.

00:11:09.000 There's no establishment news that will let you talk openly, other than RT. RT seems to be pretty open, which is really ironic.

00:11:17.000 That's ironic, right?

00:11:17.000 Yeah, I mean, when Abby Martin was working for RT, I was like, Jesus Christ, like, how's that work?

00:11:23.000 You know?

00:11:24.000 The Empire Files, and you're working for Russia?

00:11:29.000 I know.

00:11:30.000 It's a crazy juxtaposition.

00:11:32.000 It is weird.

00:11:33.000 Ed Schultz was the one who said that he was told what to cover, what not to cover at MSNBC. He was told not to cover Bernie Sanders.

00:11:41.000 He wanted to cover Bernie Sanders anyway.

00:11:42.000 He said that the Hillary Clinton campaign and the head of NBC News, Andy Lack, were joined at the hip, and he tried to cover Bernie Sanders.

00:11:50.000 He was told not to.

00:11:51.000 He was yelled at by the head of MSNBC. That's how he described it.

00:11:54.000 And a month later, he was fired.

00:11:57.000 He was out.

00:11:58.000 Well Cenk had a similar situation.

00:12:00.000 Cenk from the Young Turks. 0.94

00:12:01.000 Cenk, he was told that our friends in Washington don't like your tone.

00:12:06.000 Oh my god.

00:12:07.000 That's what they told him.

00:12:08.000 That is hilarious.

00:12:10.000 And he was winning his time slot.

00:12:11.000 And they told him that.

00:12:12.000 And they moved him to the weekend to give Al Sharpton...

00:12:15.000 This is true.

00:12:16.000 This is true.

00:12:16.000 So they moved him to the weekend and they said they wanted him to work on his presentation skills.

00:12:22.000 Guy's winning his time slot.

00:12:23.000 They're saying, we want you to work on your presentation skills.

00:12:26.000 And meanwhile, who'd they replace him with?

00:12:28.000 Al Sharpton.

00:12:29.000 He's got great presentation skills.

00:12:32.000 That's all Al has.

00:12:34.000 I mean, he's got a nice suit on.

00:12:36.000 Al Sharpton, did you ever see him try to read a teleprompter?

00:12:39.000 It's brutal.

00:12:40.000 Yeah.

00:12:41.000 I mean, he's a great orator, but he's not a teleprompter reader.

00:12:44.000 No.

00:12:44.000 And it was like, I have clips we used to make fun of all the time on my show of him.

00:12:48.000 It was hilarious.

00:12:49.000 And then to find out that that's the reason they gave was because he's a better presenter.

00:12:53.000 He's a great orator.

00:12:55.000 That's different than being a news presenter.

00:12:57.000 Right.

00:12:57.000 And that is not in Al Sharpton's wheelhouse.

00:12:59.000 No, it's just he's not the most trustworthy person either.

00:13:03.000 I mean, he's got a history of deception.

00:13:05.000 Well, the way he got that job.

00:13:07.000 Yeah, well, how about the way he became famous?

00:13:09.000 The Tawana Brawley case.

00:13:11.000 I mean, he became famous through deception.

00:13:13.000 And so you're seeing this guy who is basically a famous con man who's now on television on a news program.

00:13:23.000 Well, look at Brian Williams.

00:13:25.000 Yes.

00:13:26.000 Is he back?

00:13:27.000 Is he back in the air?

00:13:27.000 Yes, he has the 11th hour on MSNBC. Has everybody forgotten?

00:13:32.000 Everybody has forgotten.

00:13:33.000 His punishment was he had to spend six months giggling with Rachel Maddow.

00:13:38.000 What did he do?

00:13:40.000 To do a cooking show?

00:13:41.000 They do these shows.

00:13:42.000 They got these round tables.

00:13:45.000 And he has to laugh and pretend. 0.97

00:13:46.000 You know what's fucked up about him? 0.97

00:13:48.000 All he had to do was tell the truth, and it was scary enough. 1.00

00:13:51.000 No shit! 0.99

00:13:52.000 Yeah, I mean, you were in Iraq. 1.00

00:13:53.000 You really were there.

00:13:54.000 You really were there.

00:13:55.000 Yeah, I mean, you really were there.

00:13:56.000 Or Afghanistan?

00:13:56.000 Was it Iraq or Afghanistan?

00:13:58.000 I think it was Iraq.

00:13:59.000 And really, shots were fired. 1.00

00:14:02.000 But Hillary did the same goddamn thing. 1.00

00:14:04.000 Oh, that's right. 1.00

00:14:05.000 She lied about being shot at. 1.00

00:14:06.000 She fucking straight up lied about being shot at. 1.00

00:14:08.000 Oh, in Bosnia, right? 1.00

00:14:09.000 Yes.

00:14:10.000 And who was the comedian who outed her?

00:14:14.000 It was Sinbad.

00:14:15.000 Did he?

00:14:16.000 Yeah, it was Sinbad who was on that trip, and he's like, there was no sniper fire.

00:14:20.000 Oh, that's hilarious.

00:14:21.000 Yeah, she was busted straight up lying about being shot at.

00:14:26.000 So it's always shocking to me when I find out that politicians are lying.

00:14:30.000 Isn't it something? 0.87

00:14:31.000 Crazy.

00:14:32.000 Can't believe it's real.

00:14:33.000 It's weird.

00:14:36.000 Only the purest of people are drawn to that profession.

00:14:39.000 Whenever I find out they're narcissistic megalomaniacs, I'm always shocked.

00:14:45.000 You know what it is, Jimmy?

00:14:45.000 We're weeding out the bad apples, and then we're eventually going to get to the good ones.

00:14:50.000 Yeah.

00:14:50.000 We just got to get rid of these bad ones first.

00:14:52.000 So that's why it comes back to when he was talking about how Putin is like, hey, I want to tell Trump, slow down, don't be friends with this guy.

00:14:58.000 No, I want Trump to be friends with Putin because he's a nuclear power.

00:15:00.000 I want Trump to be friends with anybody.

00:15:02.000 We need detente.

00:15:04.000 You know, NATO is the one wrapping up tensions, ramping up tensions with Russia, and we have ever since the Cold War supposedly ended.

00:15:11.000 And so, you know, it was just a few...

00:15:13.000 Anyway, so I just think, yes, Putin is a bad guy.

00:15:16.000 They're all bad guys.

00:15:18.000 Right.

00:15:18.000 You know, I just had John Kiriakou on my show.

00:15:21.000 Who is he?

00:15:21.000 So he is an ex-CIA guy.

00:15:23.000 He went to prison because he exposed the torture program.

00:15:26.000 Oh.

00:15:27.000 Yeah.

00:15:27.000 So Robert Mueller actually prosecuted that guy.

00:15:30.000 Whoa.

00:15:31.000 So now he's a member of Veterans Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, VIPS. And they were invented or they were originally organized to debunk the weapons of mass destruction about Iraq.

00:15:43.000 So they were intelligence professionals who knew what was happening, that we were being sold a bill of goods because the military-industrial complex wanted its war, right?

00:15:52.000 And so they were like all the top guys, Ray McGovern, Bill Binney, and they created this organization to help debunk it.

00:16:00.000 Bill Binney?

00:16:00.000 And he is the guy who was the first whistleblower for the NSA, correct?

00:16:04.000 Yes.

00:16:04.000 And the FBI tried to throw him in jail.

00:16:06.000 And of course, he's the smartest guy the NSA ever had, so he outsmarted the FBI. Well, how did he do that?

00:16:11.000 I forget the story.

00:16:13.000 I forget the story.

00:16:13.000 He told it to me, but he had them secretly recorded saying certain things.

00:16:18.000 And so when they tried to show the evidence against him, he's like, actually, I got you guys. 0.99

00:16:24.000 And they're like, oh, shit. 0.99

00:16:25.000 And so he had them. 1.00

00:16:27.000 So he outsmarted them.

00:16:28.000 He tells a story on my show.

00:16:29.000 It was about a year ago, so I don't remember exactly how it went.

00:16:32.000 But he told me a lot of mind-blowing stuff on my show.

00:16:35.000 A lot of stuff.

00:16:36.000 Just, you know, like about how they spy on us.

00:16:40.000 Well, he was the one that first exposed this program that was essentially spying on every single email, every single voicemail, every single conversation that you have is being recorded.

00:16:49.000 So William Binney invented a thing called ThinThread.

00:16:52.000 So ThinThread was a data collection, so what he did is he hooked up every cell phone to every cell phone in the universe, and he did it.

00:17:02.000 And it was hard to do, and everybody said you couldn't do it, he did it.

00:17:05.000 And so he knew that metadata was more predictive than, say, if I tap your phone and listen to your actual phone conversation, I actually learned more by looking at a larger data set.

00:17:17.000 And when contacts start happening, that means movement's happening, that means an attack is going to happen, that means more.

00:17:23.000 So the metadata means more.

00:17:24.000 And so he found a way to track people and keep your identities secret so it was constitutional.

00:17:32.000 That's what he cared about, the Constitution and the right to privacy.

00:17:36.000 And ThinThread did that.

00:17:38.000 And they got rid of ThinThread, and a couple weeks later, 9-11 happened. 0.93

00:17:43.000 So that's who Bill Binney is.

00:17:45.000 And so he said they got rid of it because there's billions of dollars in the new...

00:17:49.000 They brought in a...

00:17:50.000 I think it was called Trailblazer.

00:17:53.000 Not as good as a tracker.

00:17:55.000 Not as good as a metadata thing.

00:17:57.000 But it was $5-6 billion to Booz Allen or whoever invented it.

00:18:01.000 And that's what this is all about.

00:18:03.000 This is all about money and you don't want to disappoint people who want to have a lot of money paid their way.

00:18:08.000 So he blew the whistle on that and they come back at him and they try to put him in jail.

00:18:14.000 That's what we do.

00:18:15.000 So that's funny to hear him say, oh, somebody wrote a bad book about Putin and they ended up dead.

00:18:19.000 What do you think we do in this country?

00:18:20.000 Look what they did to Chelsea Manning. 1.00

00:18:22.000 Look what we did to people who exposed war crimes inside of our country.

00:18:26.000 Right now, they're trying to assassinate Julian Assange.

00:18:28.000 They have him in basically solitary confinement.

00:18:30.000 We literally did torture Chelsea Manning. 1.00

00:18:34.000 And then, you know, Barack Obama used...

00:18:38.000 He prosecuted lots of whistleblowing journalists using the, now I'm blanking on the word it's called, but Espionage Act.

00:18:46.000 So this idea that, yeah, I'm sure Putin, maybe Putin didn't, maybe that woman who wrote that book about Putin has a lot of powerful enemies.

00:18:53.000 Usually you do when you are that kind of a journalist where you're exposing the powerful.

00:18:58.000 She probably didn't just expose Putin, so she probably exposed a lot of people. 0.96

00:19:01.000 My point being is that, you know, now who's being naive gay? 0.99

00:19:06.000 Well, I mean, she probably did expose a lot of people, but it's also very likely that Putin had her killed. 0.87

00:19:12.000 Yeah.

00:19:12.000 Yes, it is.

00:19:13.000 I'm not denying that.

00:19:15.000 Barack Obama had a kill list.

00:19:17.000 So these guys are out.

00:19:18.000 He took us from two wars to seven.

00:19:20.000 He did Libya, turned it into a failed state. 0.97

00:19:23.000 Right now they have open slave trading.

00:19:25.000 I know.

00:19:25.000 You can watch it on YouTube.

00:19:27.000 It's so dark.

00:19:28.000 And they want to do it again.

00:19:29.000 They want to do it in Syria. 0.99

00:19:30.000 So, Joe, let me ask you a question.

00:19:32.000 If we get rid of Assad in Syria, do you know who takes over?

00:19:36.000 Jesus, or something.

00:19:37.000 That's right!

00:19:39.000 Who starts running things?

00:19:41.000 Moses, or is he around?

00:19:43.000 Al-Qaeda, Al-Nusra.

00:19:46.000 They create a power vacuum, which is what always happens.

00:19:50.000 The Wahhabi terrorists funded by Saudi Arabia, that's who takes over. 0.99

00:19:54.000 And I have videotape after videotape of our top officials admitting that Saudi Arabia funds ISIS, and that we also did.

00:20:03.000 And that we created.

00:20:04.000 We created Al-Qaeda, and ISIS was created because of our invasion of Iraq, but then we actually fund them, and we ship them arms.

00:20:13.000 For what reason?

00:20:15.000 To go overthrow Assad, so we can put a pipeline through Syria.

00:20:19.000 So we fund them so that they fight Assad, but then Saudi Arabia funds them.

00:20:24.000 This isn't the first time we did that.

00:20:25.000 We funded Al-Qaeda so they would fight the Russians. 1.00

00:20:28.000 Right.

00:20:29.000 And then we're left with them.

00:20:31.000 When was the Mujahideen? 0.99

00:20:32.000 That's when they were the Mujahideen. 0.98

00:20:35.000 And I have videotapes of Hillary Clinton screaming about this. 0.70

00:20:39.000 We created this problem!

00:20:41.000 She says this on video.

00:20:42.000 I have it.

00:20:43.000 So...

00:20:46.000 That's why I get in trouble, because I tell the truth about the war.

00:20:49.000 And if you tell the truth about the war, you'll be called a conspiracy theorist by the establishment news.

00:20:53.000 That's exactly what's happened.

00:20:54.000 That happened to me.

00:20:55.000 Are you a conspiracy theorist now?

00:20:56.000 No.

00:20:56.000 That's what they say.

00:20:58.000 You know what the biggest...

00:20:59.000 Because I tell the truth about Syria. 0.67

00:21:01.000 Right.

00:21:01.000 The biggest conspiracy of my lifetime was the Iraq War.

00:21:04.000 That was a conspiracy.

00:21:05.000 Right.

00:21:06.000 Yeah.

00:21:06.000 That's a legit conspiracy.

00:21:07.000 That's a legit conspiracy.

00:21:08.000 Yeah.

00:21:09.000 I mean, that's one you can actually prove.

00:21:10.000 Right.

00:21:10.000 I mean, I used to have a whole bit about it.

00:21:12.000 I used to have a whole bit about, like, the only way to find out if someone...

00:21:16.000 It was, like, from 2005. It was that the reason why they put George Bush in power is the only way to find out if someone is really stupid is to put an actual stupid guy in as president and find out if everybody freaks out. 0.99

00:21:27.000 That's the only way to really tell. 1.00

00:21:28.000 And we were like, well, we could put a smart guy in there and have him act on.

00:21:32.000 I'm like, no, no, no.

00:21:32.000 We'll never know.

00:21:34.000 We'll never know. 1.00

00:21:34.000 We get a dumb guy. 1.00

00:21:36.000 Let's just try it out and see what happens. 1.00

00:21:38.000 And then it was all the whole thing about us going to war in Iraq.

00:21:40.000 Like, why did we go to the war over there?

00:21:42.000 And what did we tell them?

00:21:44.000 And they bought that? 1.00

00:21:45.000 Holy shit. 1.00

00:21:46.000 And then it was, he won again? 1.00

00:21:49.000 He won again? 1.00

00:21:50.000 Fuck. 1.00

00:21:51.000 And I go, and you know there's someone in the back of the room going, I think we can go dumber. 1.00

00:21:59.000 And that became Trump. 0.90

00:22:02.000 I mean, that was from 2005 from my Showtime special from 13 years ago.

00:22:06.000 So let me tell you something.

00:22:09.000 Trump will be allowed to be president and was allowed to be president because he's doing the bidding of the establishment.

00:22:15.000 They're on board with most of the stuff he's doing.

00:22:17.000 They're like that he's not pulling back on any of the wars.

00:22:22.000 They've all ramped up the military budget.

00:22:23.000 Isn't it funny, Joe?

00:22:24.000 They're not protecting him from Mueller.

00:22:26.000 They're not protecting him from this investigation.

00:22:29.000 Well, nothing's happened.

00:22:30.000 Right.

00:22:31.000 Again, and by the way, what they've gotten him on is all regular corruption. 0.99

00:22:34.000 Like I said, Trump is corrupt. 1.00

00:22:36.000 Yes, he's corrupt. 1.00

00:22:37.000 He's corrupt with Saudi Arabia. 1.00

00:22:39.000 He's corrupt with Russia. 1.00

00:22:40.000 He's corrupt with Israel. 1.00

00:22:41.000 Yeah, they're all corrupt. 0.99

00:22:43.000 The Clinton Foundation. 0.99

00:22:44.000 They're all... 0.79

00:22:45.000 The Chomsky quote, they'd all be hung if we applied the Nuremberg standard. 0.67

00:22:49.000 So this is the world we're living in.

00:22:51.000 So this idea that somehow we need to focus extra on Trump and somehow Putin...

00:22:56.000 And you know what?

00:22:57.000 Journalists, the anti-Putin journalists in Russia will tell you that we're a bunch of numbskulls over here because we're inflating Putin's power.

00:23:05.000 So we are...

00:23:07.000 He's this all-powerful guy who's got his finger in every decision everywhere at all times.

00:23:12.000 Elissa Milano's now blaming... 1.00

00:23:14.000 The Green Party being controlled by the Russians for an Ohio election, a special election.

00:23:19.000 I'm not kidding.

00:23:19.000 I can show you the tweet.

00:23:20.000 What?

00:23:20.000 Alyssa Milano.

00:23:21.000 You think I'm...

00:23:22.000 And who doesn't love Alyssa Milano, right?

00:23:24.000 She's beautiful.

00:23:25.000 She's one of the prettiest of all time.

00:23:27.000 I met her in a hotel once.

00:23:28.000 Did you really?

00:23:29.000 Wandering through the hotel.

00:23:30.000 We got in an elevator together.

00:23:31.000 I can't believe I'm in a hotel elevator with a Melissa Milano.

00:23:35.000 I said hello.

00:23:37.000 She said hello back.

00:23:38.000 And that was it.

00:23:39.000 Did she know who you were?

00:23:40.000 I don't think so.

00:23:41.000 No.

00:23:41.000 It was a long time ago, too.

00:23:43.000 She says, you know what sucks?

00:23:44.000 Because of our unwillingness to pass policy that protects our election integrity, I immediately think the Green Party votes tonight are Russian meddling. 0.69

00:23:53.000 Why else would anyone cast a protest vote in Ohio when there's so much at stake?

00:23:58.000 So much at stake.

00:23:59.000 That's so delusional.

00:24:01.000 Like, what is a protest vote?

00:24:02.000 What's your vote worth?

00:24:03.000 If everyone votes and they all vote Green, is that a protest vote?

00:24:07.000 Like, isn't it possible that the Green Party can win?

00:24:10.000 Like, do you have no faith?

00:24:11.000 So what they're doing is essentially just bowing down to a rigged system, saying the system's rigged, so just vote for side B, even though side A and B are funded by the same people.

00:24:22.000 I know, I know, but ideologically, side B is our side.

00:24:25.000 That's what she's saying.

00:24:26.000 So what they've gone past.

00:24:27.000 So now the hashtag resistance have gone beyond voter shaming.

00:24:31.000 And now what they're actually doing is democracy shaming.

00:24:34.000 You don't get to participate in democracy.

00:24:36.000 Exactly.

00:24:37.000 And those people.

00:24:38.000 So let me tell you something.

00:24:38.000 People say, oh, you know, the Greens take away vote.

00:24:40.000 I would not have voted.

00:24:42.000 In the presidential election if I did not have the opportunity to vote for the Green Party.

00:24:48.000 So those votes, you don't own those votes.

00:24:50.000 The way electoral politics works is that if you don't have enough votes to win, you have to go get them.

00:24:56.000 And you have to appeal to those votes.

00:24:58.000 But they don't have an appeal to voters.

00:25:00.000 The Democratic Party, they have nothing.

00:25:02.000 And so what they have left is fear and voter shaming.

00:25:06.000 And that's it.

00:25:06.000 Now they're actually shaming democracy.

00:25:08.000 But you would also think that after we've gotten through this past election where no one, literally no one in the mainstream media, other than maybe Fox News, predicted that Trump was going to win.

00:25:17.000 No one.

00:25:18.000 They all were 100% sure that Hillary was going to win.

00:25:21.000 They were had in the 90% range.

00:25:24.000 Of probability of her winning, and they were displaying it on CNN. So they know that that's wrong.

00:25:28.000 So why would someone think that a Green Party candidate has to be, or a Libertarian candidate, has to be a protest vote?

00:25:37.000 Why can't it be a real vote at this point?

00:25:39.000 When you're talking about the kind of social media outreach that is capable today, that's possible today, a person who has some really good points, and has a really...

00:25:49.000 Look at this woman who won in New York, the 28-year-old girl is a Democratic Socialist.

00:25:53.000 Like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

00:25:54.000 Yes!

00:25:55.000 Look, if that doesn't tell you, like, this world is changing in a radical way and upstarts and people who are huge underdogs have the possibility of winning.

00:26:04.000 It's not a protest vote, it's an actual vote.

00:26:07.000 And if everybody who thinks this way votes towards that protest vote, guess what?

00:26:11.000 They win!

00:26:12.000 That's right!

00:26:13.000 That's what it is!

00:26:14.000 So, I used to have a joke, or I would say, no, you can't vote for a third party candidate until a lot of people are already voting for a third party candidate.

00:26:23.000 Exactly.

00:26:24.000 That's what they're saying.

00:26:25.000 You can't vote for them.

00:26:26.000 They have no chance to win.

00:26:27.000 So you have to wait till a lot of people are already – people don't understand that inherent contradiction. 0.99

00:26:32.000 And by the way, people – maybe if you spent a tenth of the energy trying to excite the half of the country that doesn't vote – As you do on trying to voter shame progressives or Green Party or environmentalists for not giving you their vote, which you do not fucking own!

00:26:49.000 If you were to spend a tenth of the energy trying to excite people who don't participate to participate, instead of shaming the people who do participate, maybe you'd get somewhere.

00:26:58.000 It's also this reluctance to admit that both sides are corrupt is this very strange thing that exists on people who operate within this narrow bandwidth.

00:27:07.000 And this narrow bandwidth is whatever side you're on, whether it's you're on the right or the left, this is the side that you want to win.

00:27:13.000 And it's the right side, and they're the good people, and the other side, even though our side does wrong, this side does worse.

00:27:19.000 And they operate in this real narrow bandwidth.

00:27:22.000 This is why she would think something that's Possibly negative for her side is a protest vote instead of being your actual feelings on the issue.

00:27:32.000 And if these people really cared about voting integrity, wouldn't they want paper ballots?

00:27:37.000 If they really cared about voter integrity, wouldn't they want rank choice voting?

00:27:42.000 Wouldn't they want that?

00:27:42.000 What is that?

00:27:43.000 You don't have to worry about this.

00:27:45.000 Rank choice voting?

00:27:46.000 Rank choice.

00:27:46.000 So they have it in Maine now.

00:27:47.000 Right?

00:27:48.000 So it's where, you know, you get to, this is my first choice, this is my second choice, this is my third choice.

00:27:56.000 Oh.

00:27:56.000 So you don't get to, so it eliminates that you're a spoiler, right?

00:28:01.000 Oh, interesting.

00:28:01.000 Yeah, so, and they voted in in Maine, and the politicians, of course, don't want it, so they got rid of it.

00:28:09.000 Oh.

00:28:09.000 And they had the court reinstate it.

00:28:12.000 I think it's happened twice now.

00:28:13.000 How does it work in terms of, like, say if you're going to vote for, you know, governor of Maine, you have a first choice, a second choice, and a third choice?

00:28:20.000 Yeah, let's say there's three choices.

00:28:21.000 So you get to say, well, let's say if your first choice was a Green Party candidate.

00:28:26.000 You go, okay, that's my first choice, but my second choice would be the Democrat.

00:28:30.000 And my third choice would be, you know, maybe nobody.

00:28:33.000 And so does, like, second choice have different points?

00:28:35.000 So if your first choice doesn't get enough votes to win, then your second choice goes, right?

00:28:41.000 So that's how it works.

00:28:42.000 So you're never wasting your vote.

00:28:44.000 And you know what's ironic?

00:28:45.000 Is that...

00:28:46.000 And I might have...

00:28:47.000 There's people who can better explain that.

00:28:49.000 So please, I know people are going to...

00:28:50.000 Jamie, there's a better way to say that.

00:28:52.000 I'm sure there's better ways.

00:28:53.000 But the thing that kills me is that Bernie Sanders...

00:28:57.000 His whole career was about being an independent.

00:29:00.000 And I have videotapes of him saying, you know what kills me is I go out and I do these talks and I talk to people, they come up to me after these debates and they say, you know, I like what you said and you make the most sense, but I can't vote for you because you're never going to win.

00:29:13.000 I hate that.

00:29:13.000 They go, I want to waste my vote.

00:29:15.000 Oh, if there's one thing I hate, more than that phrase, waste your vote.

00:29:19.000 This was what he was saying his entire career, until now.

00:29:24.000 And I want to know why.

00:29:25.000 I want to know what the hell does Bernie Sanders in 2018 know that Bernie Sanders in 2006 didn't know.

00:29:31.000 And Bernie Sanders in 1996 doesn't know.

00:29:34.000 And he tells everybody you got to run.

00:29:35.000 He's getting people to come into the Democratic Party, which is actively cheating them.

00:29:40.000 Cheating him.

00:29:41.000 And him.

00:29:42.000 Yet he still runs as an independent in Maine.

00:29:44.000 I mean, in Vermont.

00:29:46.000 He still runs it.

00:29:47.000 Everybody's saying, he gets to run as an independent.

00:29:50.000 He gets to run as an independent while representing the Democratic Party sometimes.

00:29:53.000 Yes.

00:29:54.000 So they have a special sweetheart deal.

00:29:56.000 So what is he saying?

00:29:57.000 Is he saying now that protest votes are a waste?

00:30:00.000 What is he saying?

00:30:01.000 He told everybody to vote for Hillary.

00:30:03.000 I mean, he's not starting a third party.

00:30:05.000 And, you know, his whole life he was like, he said that we have to have...

00:30:09.000 The verbiage he used one time I saw him was that, you know, Jesse Jackson's correct. 0.99

00:30:15.000 We need a rainbow coalition of people.

00:30:18.000 But it has to happen outside of the Democratic Party.

00:30:21.000 He said that.

00:30:22.000 That was him.

00:30:23.000 So we have to have a progressive coalition, but it has to happen outside.

00:30:27.000 And who better to lead it but Bernie Sanders?

00:30:29.000 So that's why it's hard to start a third party, because you need people who are already famous and popular in government.

00:30:36.000 So if he left, and he got, say, Tulsi Gabbard and Nina Turner and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and he got a bunch of people that are super popular on the left, we'd have a third party that would be polling at 10%, 15%.

00:30:48.000 And now the Democrats would have to...

00:30:51.000 Form a coalition instead of what they're doing now, which is ignoring progressives.

00:30:55.000 After the Democrats cheated Bernie Sanders in the primary, Hillary Clinton didn't choose Bernie Sanders as her vice president, as an olive branch. 0.66

00:31:04.000 She didn't choose Elizabeth Warren as an olive branch. 0.64

00:31:06.000 She went to her right.

00:31:08.000 She got Tim Kaine, who's to the right of her, who's anti-union, who's everything, bad thing you want, and a corporate Democrat.

00:31:14.000 He's pro-Walt the whole deal.

00:31:17.000 So if we had a third party that actually polled at 10 or 15 percent, they couldn't do that anymore.

00:31:23.000 They'd have to do a thing called Joe Voter Outreach instead of voter shaming, or what it's devolved to now, which is democracy shaming.

00:31:31.000 They're literally shaming people for participating in democracy.

00:31:35.000 You don't get to participate in democracy because you're a third party. 1.00

00:31:39.000 Well, fuck you. 1.00

00:31:39.000 That's called democracy. 1.00

00:31:41.000 Yes, I do.

00:31:42.000 And I get to vote my conscience.

00:31:44.000 And we'll be right back.

00:31:46.000 That's a good break.

00:31:47.000 That's a good ad break right there.

00:31:49.000 That's solid.

00:31:50.000 If you're on a radio show, that would be the way to go.

00:31:52.000 Hey, one of the reasons why we came in today is because we wanted to talk about the Alex Jones situation.

00:31:58.000 I know you were not just a vocal critic of Alex Jones, you spit in his face on live internet.

00:32:03.000 Joe, I did not spit in his face.

00:32:05.000 That was completely involuntary.

00:32:08.000 He coughed and liquid came out of your mouth.

00:32:11.000 As you know, Alex Jones is hilarious.

00:32:13.000 There's no denying that.

00:32:15.000 He's occasionally very hilarious.

00:32:17.000 Yes.

00:32:18.000 Yeah.

00:32:18.000 And I told you what happened.

00:32:20.000 I was walking up.

00:32:20.000 He's having this.

00:32:21.000 They're just about to go fisticuffs the whole time. 0.85

00:32:23.000 Yeah.

00:32:23.000 And as I walk up, he goes, hey, I'm just trying to be nice.

00:32:26.000 And you had a spit test.

00:32:27.000 And I had a mouthful iced tea.

00:32:29.000 I understand.

00:32:30.000 That's my story.

00:32:31.000 I'm sticking to it.

00:32:31.000 Good story.

00:32:33.000 You know, Trump meant to say would, and he actually said wouldn't.

00:32:41.000 Yeah, he actually, what did he say?

00:32:42.000 I don't see any reason why they would, but he meant to say wouldn't.

00:32:46.000 Yeah, that was one of the worst lies I think anybody's ever told on television in front of millions of people.

00:32:51.000 That was a disturbing lie, because in the context of the words and the way he was communicating, it's very clear.

00:32:57.000 It's very clear he meant to say would.

00:33:00.000 It was disconcerting to me for a different reason.

00:33:03.000 It was disconcerting to me because it showed that they got him to cave.

00:33:06.000 Yeah, someone talked to him. 0.99

00:33:07.000 Someone pulled him aside and said, do you understand what the fuck is going on here? 0.98

00:33:11.000 By the way, when they go, oh, Trump contradicted our intelligence communities in public in Helsinki, and that's treason. 0.99

00:33:19.000 No, asswipe, that's not treason.

00:33:22.000 The president sets our foreign policy. 1.00

00:33:24.000 You're not supposed to contradict the fucking president. 0.99

00:33:26.000 Whatever the president says goes, and I hate fucking saying this because I'm not a fucking fan of Donald Trump, but goddammit, do we all lose our head and think that the unelected spies run our foreign policy? 1.00

00:33:38.000 They do not! 0.99

00:33:39.000 Yeah.

00:33:40.000 Spies.

00:33:41.000 Our spies.

00:33:42.000 Unelected.

00:33:42.000 Yeah.

00:33:43.000 So, and the ones who led us into Iraq.

00:33:45.000 Let's not forget that.

00:33:47.000 The very dude, anyway.

00:33:48.000 Do you ever play that video I played almost weekly on my show of Robert Mueller lying about weapons of mass destruction to Congress to get us into the Iraq War?

00:33:56.000 Well, he was misinformed at the time.

00:34:00.000 He wasn't aware of all the information.

00:34:03.000 And, you know, him along with Colin Powell and many others were...

00:34:07.000 Yeah, they're just good guys who have bad information.

00:34:09.000 Good people.

00:34:10.000 Good people do it in the bad.

00:34:11.000 Those no-bid contracts that Halliburton got for billions and billions of dollars, it's just because they were the right ones for the job.

00:34:18.000 I mean, why have bids?

00:34:20.000 When you've got Halliburton, and you've got a guy who's really close to Halliburton, Dick Cheney, who used to be the CEO of Halliburton as the vice president.

00:34:28.000 You've got a sweet deal here.

00:34:30.000 Take advantage of it.

00:34:31.000 Halliburton gave Dick Cheney a $30 million down payment when he became vice president.

00:34:35.000 A little bit of this, a little bit of that.

00:34:37.000 Trying to help you out.

00:34:39.000 I know you like to go duck hunting.

00:34:41.000 Give you a nice gun.

00:34:43.000 Don't shoot your friend in the face.

00:34:46.000 I used to do a bit about that, too.

00:34:47.000 He shot his friend in the face, and his friend apologized.

00:34:51.000 And his friend apologized! 0.83

00:34:51.000 Yeah, that's how gangster Dick Cheney is. 0.83

00:34:53.000 Ah, I shouldn't have been there. 0.86

00:34:54.000 I look like a bird. 0.99

00:34:56.000 The whole thing was so fucking crazy. 0.98

00:35:00.000 You know, we were talking about Alex Jones. 0.98

00:35:03.000 Oh, okay.

00:35:04.000 So he's being the platform.

00:35:05.000 Yeah, I mean, it seems to be, like, across the board, like, it's almost...

00:35:13.000 They waited for Apple, it seems like.

00:35:15.000 And when Apple pulled them from iTunes, then, you know, YouTube had danced with it, right?

00:35:21.000 They'd given them some strikes.

00:35:22.000 It was really recently, like within the last couple of months.

00:35:25.000 Facebook, too.

00:35:25.000 Yeah, Facebook had given them some strikes, and YouTube gave them some strikes, and people were like, hey, you know, there was some...

00:35:31.000 I felt like almost like unfounded...

00:35:37.000 Speculation that they would remove him from the platform.

00:35:40.000 I'm like, they're never gonna remove him.

00:35:42.000 That's crazy.

00:35:43.000 That's too far.

00:35:44.000 And then all of a sudden, boom, everybody in one fell swoop.

00:35:48.000 Did Spotify remove him?

00:35:50.000 They were going to.

00:35:51.000 They did.

00:35:52.000 Right?

00:35:52.000 iTunes removed him.

00:35:54.000 There's a loophole, though, that somebody...

00:35:56.000 I saw an article today where people want nothing but less than total destruction.

00:36:01.000 That Apple attacked Alex Jones and got rid of him, but they offered him a safety net in the form of the app that he has on their app store.

00:36:10.000 So they were trying to take that down, too.

00:36:11.000 Like, take down the app.

00:36:12.000 His show became instantly way more popular.

00:36:15.000 Oh, I'm sure.

00:36:16.000 So, again, the unintended consequences.

00:36:17.000 I try to tell people...

00:36:20.000 I'm not defending Alex Jones.

00:36:22.000 I'm defending the principle of freedom of speech.

00:36:26.000 People who are convicted of killers who are on death row They still get their freedom of speech.

00:36:32.000 You're allowed to print articles, and they're allowed to have...

00:36:34.000 You know what I mean?

00:36:34.000 They're still allowed to...

00:36:35.000 Well, he's allowed to still.

00:36:36.000 I mean, he hasn't been silenced.

00:36:38.000 He has his website.

00:36:39.000 He could put his show out on his website.

00:36:41.000 He could host it from his website, and it could all be fine.

00:36:45.000 But these major media companies...

00:36:47.000 Now, they just decided, we've had enough.

00:36:50.000 We don't want this on.

00:36:52.000 And here's the thing.

00:36:53.000 I don't know what he said that...

00:36:56.000 That there was a straw that broke the camel's back.

00:36:59.000 It seemed like it's not a recent statement that he said.

00:37:01.000 Well, let's just go to the court transcripts and we'll figure out.

00:37:04.000 Oh, there wasn't.

00:37:04.000 There wasn't a court.

00:37:06.000 Oh, there was no hearing or nothing?

00:37:08.000 There wasn't a judicial hearing?

00:37:09.000 There was no...

00:37:10.000 Come on.

00:37:11.000 They just, what? 0.99

00:37:12.000 They let some jag-off billionaire in the middle of the night on a whim fucking do this? 0.99

00:37:16.000 Is that what happened? 0.99

00:37:16.000 Yes. 0.99

00:37:17.000 Do you think that's what it is?

00:37:18.000 That was some billionaire?

00:37:19.000 Or do you think it's the middle managers and the executives at all these giant tech companies that just decided?

00:37:28.000 I don't know.

00:37:29.000 It's definitely...

00:37:32.000 The government tells Facebook what to do a lot of times, right?

00:37:35.000 And so they bow to the government all the time because they don't want to be regulated.

00:37:39.000 Right.

00:37:39.000 So that's why they just started having hearings.

00:37:43.000 That's why they had those hearings.

00:37:44.000 Should we regulate Facebook?

00:37:46.000 Right. 0.99

00:37:46.000 Those hearings, by the way, were fucking bizarre. 0.99

00:37:49.000 It was like a guy pretending to be human. 0.99

00:37:52.000 Yes.

00:37:52.000 You know, it was like some sort of a robot or an alien.

00:37:55.000 The way he would sip water, he would take it like this and... 0.99

00:37:58.000 Like, who fucking sips water? 0.99

00:37:59.000 It was like a guy spitting dip into a glass. 1.00

00:38:02.000 He would go like this.

00:38:05.000 Like, there was the weirdest little sips.

00:38:07.000 Someone should make a compilation of Zuckerberg's sips of water.

00:38:11.000 Whoever is that guy who makes the compilations of your show, he does a good job.

00:38:15.000 He does a funny job on those.

00:38:17.000 This is me.

00:38:18.000 That's my Zuckerberg impression.

00:38:22.000 Okay.

00:38:23.000 Okay.

00:38:24.000 No, Senator.

00:38:25.000 No, sir.

00:38:26.000 Watch this sip.

00:38:27.000 Watch that sip.

00:38:27.000 Give me another one of those.

00:38:29.000 Oh, there is one.

00:38:30.000 They have them.

00:38:32.000 There is a drinking water compilation.

00:38:34.000 Of course there is.

00:38:34.000 Oh, my God!

00:38:36.000 Watch him sip. 1.00

00:38:37.000 Who fucking sips water like that? 1.00

00:38:39.000 It's like he has to think about it. 1.00

00:38:41.000 Yeah.

00:38:42.000 Act normal.

00:38:43.000 Be human.

00:38:43.000 Humans drink water.

00:38:45.000 Drink the water.

00:38:45.000 Look how slowly he tilted that glass.

00:38:47.000 And him and the guy behind him have the same color tie. 1.00

00:38:50.000 That's the guy they're going to shoot in the head. 0.61

00:38:52.000 He's keeping eye contact while he's drinking the water. 0.93

00:38:55.000 It's kind of weird.

00:38:55.000 He's trying to, at least.

00:38:59.000 You just want to be disrespectful.

00:39:01.000 This is fantastic!

00:39:03.000 That whole thing was so strange.

00:39:05.000 It was so strange.

00:39:06.000 Hey, what a better guy to protect us from fake news and tell us what's real news and what has integrity and what doesn't than a guy who made a couple billion dollars off a stolen idea from his friends.

00:39:18.000 I mean, I think that's the perfect guy to safeguard.

00:39:20.000 Is that the true story?

00:39:21.000 Is that what he actually did?

00:39:23.000 Yeah, I think so.

00:39:24.000 That's what was in the movie, right?

00:39:25.000 That was in the movie.

00:39:26.000 That's what I know.

00:39:26.000 I didn't see the movie.

00:39:28.000 Oh, okay.

00:39:28.000 Yeah.

00:39:29.000 I know the story, though, was that he ripped people off, that it wasn't his idea, but he was the one who figured out a way to wrestle it free and, I don't know, get rich as fuck. 0.99

00:39:39.000 But this is... 0.78

00:39:40.000 Matt Tabby wrote an article on the 2nd, August 2nd, about this, and there's been a lot of people being deplatformed from Facebook that you don't know about.

00:39:51.000 Like who?

00:39:52.000 Like, this isn't like...

00:39:53.000 Okay.

00:39:54.000 Okay, so here's what he's...

00:40:05.000 Matt Taibbi said, He says Facebook was helped in its efforts to wipe out these dangerous memes by the Atlantic Council on whose board you'll find confidence-inspiring names like Henry Kissinger,

00:40:34.000 CIA Chief Michael Hayden, former acting CIA head Michael Morrell, and former Bush-era Homeland Security Chief Michael Chertoff.

00:40:42.000 These people now have their hands on what is essentially a direct lever over nationwide news distribution.

00:40:48.000 It's hard to state the potential mischief that lurks behind this union of internet platforms and would-be government censors.

00:40:57.000 Can I just read you one more paragraph?

00:40:59.000 Because this is exactly what we're talking about.

00:41:01.000 He says, it is already a scandal that these de facto private media regulators have secret algorithmic processes that push down some news organizations in favor of others, which they do.

00:41:12.000 Which they do.

00:41:12.000 Witness the complaints by outlets like Alternet, Truthdig, and others that big platforms have been de-emphasizing alternative sites in the name of combating fake news.

00:41:21.000 But this week's revelation is worse.

00:41:23.000 When Facebook works with the government and wannabe star chamber organizations like the Atlantic Council to delete sites on national security grounds using secret methodology, it opens the door to nightmare possibilities that you'd only find in dystopian novels.

00:41:39.000 So he goes on, and it's awesome what he says, but...

00:41:42.000 We would have more comfort if they would...

00:41:45.000 I mean, there's no...

00:41:46.000 Like, one of the things that they're doing is they use that blanket term, hate speech. 0.85

00:41:50.000 So, by the way, they're trying to put a bill, have you heard about this in Congress, to make police a protected class of people, so if you say shit about them, now it's considered hate speech. 0.88

00:42:00.000 Did you know that? 0.98

00:42:00.000 What? 0.98

00:42:01.000 Yeah, they're trying to make people, yes. 1.00

00:42:03.000 So fuck the police would be hate speech. 1.00

00:42:05.000 Would be considered hate speech. 1.00

00:42:06.000 So they would just retroactively arrest NWA? They could.

00:42:09.000 What about Ice-T? He was a cop killer, remember? 0.59

00:42:11.000 Right. 1.00

00:42:12.000 I'm a motherfucking cop killer! 1.00

00:42:14.000 And so now if you do have a rally that's against the police, that's a hate rally. 1.00

00:42:17.000 Yeah.

00:42:18.000 And they can take your YouTube channel down if you said hate stuff about the cops.

00:42:22.000 Wow.

00:42:23.000 So that's where we are.

00:42:24.000 Hate speech. 1.00

00:42:25.000 How come I'm not allowed to hate shit, by the way? 1.00

00:42:28.000 Right. 1.00

00:42:28.000 I hate Nazis. 1.00

00:42:29.000 Can I say I hate fucking Nazis? 1.00

00:42:31.000 I hate the KKK. Can I say I hate them? 1.00

00:42:33.000 That's hate speech.

00:42:34.000 You strongly dislike the KKK. I hate...

00:42:37.000 You can strongly dislike something. 1.00

00:42:39.000 When I was a kid, I hated the fucking Dodgers. 1.00

00:42:42.000 I know. 1.00

00:42:43.000 Hate speech. 1.00

00:42:43.000 Because I was a Cubs fan, and the Dodgers always kicked our ass. 1.00

00:42:46.000 Hate speech. 1.00

00:42:47.000 Yeah, hate speech is a strange blanket term, almost like drugs.

00:42:51.000 You know, like drugs is caffeine, but it's also heroin.

00:42:54.000 You know, it's like drugs...

00:42:55.000 What's wrong with hate?

00:42:56.000 I don't understand.

00:42:57.000 There's hate out there, so what's wrong?

00:43:00.000 So, by the way, I... But it's a bad way of expressing things.

00:43:03.000 Like, hate speech, it's not a good descriptive.

00:43:07.000 I agree.

00:43:08.000 Because when you stop, what does it entail?

00:43:10.000 Like, you know, I had a conversation with a woman at YouTube about Sam Harris and...

00:43:18.000 Douglas Murray in a podcast where they had had a conversation and someone put it on their YouTube channel in their playlist.

00:43:26.000 Just put it in their playlist and they got a community guidelines.

00:43:29.000 I asked why and the woman said very cleanly it was hate speech.

00:43:35.000 And I said, what are you talking about?

00:43:37.000 I go, did you listen to it?

00:43:38.000 These are two intellectuals.

00:43:40.000 These are two public intellectuals discussing immigration and some of the problems that Europe is having right now.

00:43:46.000 And you decided that that's hate speech.

00:43:47.000 And you don't even know what they said.

00:43:49.000 But the fact that she's so confidently described it in that way sort of...

00:43:53.000 It sort of embodies what this problem is, is that they have these blanket terms they were able to throw on problems, and there's a million other fires to put out, so there's no more need to put any more consideration into this.

00:44:04.000 This guy's a problem.

00:44:06.000 This is problematic.

00:44:07.000 This is hate speech.

00:44:08.000 Shut it down.

00:44:10.000 And people don't realize how bad it is, Joe.

00:44:13.000 You do, because you know this story.

00:44:15.000 But people go, oh, good for Alex Jones.

00:44:17.000 He shouldn't be able to do that stuff, what he's doing.

00:44:19.000 I'm like, do you not understand that this is the shot across the bow, that if they can do this to Alex Jones, that they're coming.

00:44:27.000 I've already been trashed by the establishment media, by the Washington Post, by CNN. I've already been equated to pedophiles and those kind of things, and conspiracy theorists.

00:44:36.000 I've been in articles with Alex Jones.

00:44:37.000 They've done it to me.

00:44:38.000 Because I tell the truth about the war.

00:44:41.000 And so the antidote to bad speech, if you really hate what Alex Jones is doing, the antidote to bad speech is not censorship.

00:44:50.000 The antidote to bad speech is more speech.

00:44:53.000 It's good speech.

00:44:54.000 If you think what Alex Jones is doing needs to be debunked, create a Facebook page called Debunking Alex Jones and debunk him.

00:45:01.000 Right.

00:45:01.000 You know, Kyle Kalinske does that kind of stuff all the time.

00:45:03.000 People do that stuff all the time.

00:45:05.000 That's how you convert.

00:45:06.000 If you're afraid of an idea, you don't shut down the idea.

00:45:09.000 You expose the idea and you debunk it.

00:45:12.000 But if you have a private platform and you own this and you start a business and your business is putting up YouTube videos and you decide that someone is putting up something that's hurtful and damaging and racist and it could be used to attack large groups of people and then you see like...

00:45:29.000 All the craziness that's been connected to the alt-right movement and you associate that with this individual, do you have to keep that on your platform?

00:45:39.000 I mean, there's no regulation right now.

00:45:41.000 It's not like the public utilities or...

00:45:44.000 It should be, though.

00:45:44.000 That's my point.

00:45:45.000 My point is that 70% of the people get their news from Google and Facebook.

00:45:49.000 And they're a monopoly, right?

00:45:50.000 So they have monopolistic powers.

00:45:52.000 70%.

00:45:53.000 Yeah, that was a stat I read today.

00:45:56.000 So you can't...

00:45:58.000 It's like, well...

00:45:59.000 I was reading that too.

00:45:59.000 I don't know if I believe it.

00:46:00.000 Hey, they took...

00:46:01.000 It's a stretch.

00:46:02.000 Why do you think it's a stretch?

00:46:04.000 It's a stretch.

00:46:05.000 It says 45% of the people get it straight from Facebook.

00:46:07.000 That means 150 million people are on Facebook every single day.

00:46:12.000 Yeah, I think that's...

00:46:13.000 That's not accurate.

00:46:14.000 No, but I think that's right.

00:46:15.000 But when they get their news...

00:46:16.000 We don't.

00:46:16.000 The three people in this room aren't, so that's the three people right here that aren't.

00:46:19.000 But I get my news from Google. 0.63

00:46:21.000 I have that Google app on my phone, and every day I go to it in the morning when I'm taking a shit, and I go over like, what's crazy today? 0.94

00:46:30.000 What's happening? 0.93

00:46:30.000 Oh, new Porsche coming out. 0.93

00:46:32.000 What did Sacha Baron Cohen do?

00:46:35.000 One sentence is tough.

00:46:36.000 Well, let's see what they said.

00:46:37.000 I just looked at it.

00:46:37.000 That's what it said.

00:46:38.000 45%.

00:46:39.000 I get it from Facebook.

00:46:41.000 But according to...

00:46:42.000 Is it a Gallup poll?

00:46:43.000 It was according to their stats.

00:46:45.000 And I went back to read another Rolling Stone article to find out where they got that from.

00:46:48.000 And it's a bunch of Facebook article selling advertisements.

00:46:53.000 Trying to find the data.

00:46:54.000 So even if you quibble with those, we can't deny...

00:46:58.000 Alex Jones cannot now go, well, just go to the other YouTube channel.

00:47:01.000 There isn't another YouTube.

00:47:02.000 You hate us going to the other Facebook.

00:47:04.000 So we have to recognize that the way we organize as a society that the town square is now owned by corporations that need to be regulated, right? 0.99

00:47:13.000 Like before, when AT&T was the phone carrier for everybody, they couldn't go, I'm not going to give Alex Jones a phone service because I don't like the shit he's saying. 0.99

00:47:21.000 Right. 0.95

00:47:21.000 So, you know, you can't deny services to somebody, all that stuff. 0.95

00:47:24.000 But that's not really a valid comparison because the phone service wasn't distributing information to people.

00:47:31.000 Right.

00:47:32.000 The phone service was just a method of communication.

00:47:34.000 It was just a utility.

00:47:35.000 What he's able to do through Infowars is, if you've got him on your platform, he's going to say some things and he's going to use your platform to say some things that You know, might not be true and might be crazy.

00:47:47.000 So you got to decide, like, when does it become a problem?

00:47:50.000 And I think where they drew the line was Sandy Hook.

00:47:53.000 So here's what I say, Joe.

00:47:55.000 We need to treat these as public utilities because they are, right?

00:47:59.000 Facebook, there is no alternative.

00:48:01.000 There is an alternative to YouTube.

00:48:02.000 We need to regulate them.

00:48:03.000 It's long overdue, by the way.

00:48:05.000 And they are monopolies.

00:48:07.000 It's obvious to everyone that they're monopolies.

00:48:09.000 But, you know, when you invent something called WhatsApp and then Facebook buys it for $20 billion, there's a monopoly.

00:48:16.000 There's no way to compete with these people.

00:48:19.000 So these are monopolies.

00:48:20.000 They need to be regulated and people need to be protected.

00:48:25.000 And that's where we need to go because right now we're leaving it up to the whims of a billion. 0.94

00:48:30.000 Like you say, hey, if Alex Jones really did some shit that was wrong and he should be taken off or his free speech should be abridged for it, do it. 0.95

00:48:37.000 Let's see him go to a court or go to a thing. 0.99

00:48:40.000 People go, well, he doxes people.

00:48:43.000 If doxing is illegal, he should be prosecuted.

00:48:45.000 If that's what happens, but you shouldn't take away...

00:48:48.000 Did he dox people?

00:48:49.000 That's what they're saying.

00:48:50.000 They're saying he doxed people from Newtown or whatever, from the school shooting.

00:48:55.000 So that's what they're saying.

00:48:56.000 So he talked about the individuals, the families?

00:48:57.000 That he gave their addresses and their names.

00:48:59.000 What?

00:48:59.000 That's what they're saying, that he doxed them.

00:49:00.000 Okay, but let's find out if he actually did that, because that sounds crazy.

00:49:05.000 I don't know if he did.

00:49:06.000 But they're not saying what he actually did.

00:49:09.000 This is what's crazy.

00:49:10.000 I keep hearing that he promoted the idea that Sandy Hook was false, and that it was a false flag, and that these were all actors.

00:49:22.000 I don't know if he actually said that.

00:49:24.000 I think what he actually said was, I don't know if that happened.

00:49:29.000 I think that's what he actually said.

00:49:30.000 And people are saying, well, that's promoting the idea that it was a hoax.

00:49:35.000 But I want to know if that's what he really said.

00:49:37.000 See, I don't know if that's even the case, because I've heard it written that he promoted the idea that Sandy Hook was a conspiracy, but they're not quoting.

00:49:47.000 When they say that, there's no quotes.

00:49:49.000 There's no, Sandy Hook was a hoax.

00:49:52.000 Those kids were actors.

00:49:53.000 Those kids are not dead.

00:49:55.000 I don't see that anywhere.

00:49:56.000 Right.

00:49:57.000 But they keep attributing that to him without quotations.

00:50:00.000 But again, if there was some kind of process, due process, we could go back and look at the transcript and we would know this.

00:50:06.000 Not only that, if during this whole time where he's being tried, he was still able to be on YouTube and have his videos, he could show in his videos that he didn't say that.

00:50:16.000 He could show what he actually said and tell you what he actually said and show clips.

00:50:21.000 He can't do that anymore.

00:50:22.000 So now the narrative is completely in the hands of the mainstream media, 100%.

00:50:27.000 So the Alex Jones narrative is being taken 100% out of his hands, and now it's in the mainstream media, and now there's Sandy Hook denier, conspiracy theorist, right-wing lunatic, all these different things, which may have been some of it. 0.99

00:50:41.000 I mean, Alex is pretty fucking nuts. 0.99

00:50:43.000 My point is, we've had nuts people. 0.99

00:50:47.000 When I was a kid, Joe, maybe you remember, Johnny Carson used to go apeshit about the National Enquirer.

00:50:52.000 Yes.

00:50:53.000 Do you remember that?

00:50:53.000 And it was a big deal.

00:50:55.000 He would stop his show, and I'm putting my foot down about this.

00:50:57.000 Yeah.

00:50:58.000 They still have the National...

00:50:59.000 And nobody said, take it out of the supermarkets.

00:51:01.000 Nobody was like, we got to ban that newspaper because we can't handle the ideas from this newspaper.

00:51:06.000 They're still right there.

00:51:07.000 You go to Ralph's, they're right there.

00:51:08.000 They're the last thing you see before they leave.

00:51:10.000 They're right at the eye level for kids.

00:51:11.000 Yeah.

00:51:12.000 Nobody says, take away the National Enquirer.

00:51:14.000 I went to Facebook.

00:51:14.000 They still have a Facebook page, National Enquirer.

00:51:17.000 Do they?

00:51:17.000 Yes.

00:51:18.000 Yes.

00:51:18.000 So does the World News Daily.

00:51:19.000 And you know what the first news story was that came up on World News Daily?

00:51:22.000 Alien Bailey's? 0.99

00:51:23.000 Was a British man can only defecate through his mouth. 1.00

00:51:26.000 That was the first story that came up. 0.99

00:51:28.000 The first story!

00:51:30.000 And you don't have to look for it. 1.00

00:51:32.000 British man defecates through his mouth. 1.00

00:51:33.000 I'm like, this is like South Park! 1.00

00:51:35.000 Right.

00:51:36.000 Yeah.

00:51:37.000 And it's not like...

00:51:38.000 You want them to be taken down as well.

00:51:40.000 But what's interesting is like World Nudes Daily and Star Magazine and all those, they've sort of been, they're a joke.

00:51:46.000 Like, you know it's not real.

00:51:47.000 You know the Enquirer's not real.

00:51:48.000 But we know that.

00:51:50.000 But it's not, it's just implied.

00:51:52.000 Somebody's buying those.

00:51:53.000 Right, but are they kind of buying them just for fun and entertainment?

00:51:56.000 Somebody watches professional wrestling.

00:51:58.000 Here it goes.

00:51:59.000 Lawsuit quotes Jones saying, yeah, so Sandy Hook is a synthetic, completely fake...

00:52:05.000 Is a synthetic, completely fake with actors, in my view, manufactured?

00:52:12.000 Okay.

00:52:13.000 I would show the video.

00:52:15.000 Right.

00:52:16.000 January 13, 2015. The lawsuit quotes Jones saying, Yeah, so Sandy Hook is a synthetic, completely fake with actors, in my view, manufactured...

00:52:31.000 Yeah.

00:52:32.000 You actually nailed that impression.

00:52:35.000 I spent a lot of time with that dude drunk.

00:52:37.000 That's a real problem.

00:52:40.000 Saying something like that is crazy.

00:52:42.000 Look, his whole business is saying things...

00:52:51.000 Yeah.

00:53:06.000 Singing the words.

00:53:07.000 No, I haven't. 0.99

00:53:08.000 It's fucking genius. 0.99

00:53:08.000 Would we get pulled off of YouTube if we play that? 0.99

00:53:11.000 Let's find out if we get yanked for this one.

00:53:13.000 Because it's brilliant.

00:53:14.000 Because it's a parody, but it's so...

00:53:16.000 It's an indie folk song?

00:53:18.000 Yeah.

00:53:19.000 You said emo song, and if there's two...

00:53:20.000 Indie folk, emo, just, you know, some low testosterone music. 0.88

00:53:26.000 Listen to this.

00:53:27.000 Listen to this.

00:53:28.000 And that's why we're just out here doing simple things, pointing out that we're meant to be in nature and be natural.

00:53:32.000 And this is where we find the source that God made to transcend the new world order.

00:53:36.000 And that's why they want to try to keep us out of it.

00:53:38.000 Watch this.

00:53:53.000 What?

00:53:54.000 Oh, you're taking the audio off?

00:53:58.000 Alex Jones rants as an indie folk song for people that are just listening to this.

00:54:04.000 You gotta Google this because we removed the sound from YouTube.

00:54:08.000 Oh, okay.

00:54:10.000 Babies.

00:54:11.000 We want to eat babies. 0.58

00:54:12.000 We love Satan. 0.95

00:54:13.000 We want to eat babies.

00:54:14.000 I have them on video.

00:54:16.000 That's just what you just said.

00:54:17.000 I have Hillary Clinton on video.

00:54:24.000 His face.

00:54:44.000 Listen to this. 0.99

00:54:48.000 Obama and Hillary both smell like sulfur. 0.99

00:54:54.000 It's a song! 1.00

00:54:57.000 Literal vampire potbelly goblins! 0.93

00:55:03.000 Come on! 0.94

00:55:06.000 Oh my god.

00:55:12.000 You know...

00:55:22.000 I think there's something about his struggle right now that's representative of the chaotic world that we live in, that he does have this giant voice, that he does have this giant following,

00:55:37.000 and that his actual words come out in song like that and are so hysterical.

00:55:45.000 They think that somehow or another, yanking this guy off all these platforms is going to, like, remove it.

00:55:51.000 Do they understand the Streisand effect?

00:55:53.000 Because this is just going to—there's going to be another way.

00:55:56.000 But what's the Streisand effect?

00:55:58.000 Barbra Streisand had a house in Malibu, this giant-ass house, and they took pictures of it. 0.99

00:56:03.000 And she went apeshit and complained to all these newspapers and complained to the police and everything that they're taking photos of her house and get the fuck out of here. 1.00

00:56:12.000 I'm Barbara Streisand. 0.98

00:56:14.000 And because of that, it became a giant story that Barbara Streisand is pissed that someone's showing her house.

00:56:19.000 And they're like, well, it must be a hell of a house.

00:56:20.000 Where is it?

00:56:22.000 There it is.

00:56:22.000 The Streisand effect is a phenomenon.

00:56:24.000 There's the house.

00:56:26.000 Whereby an attempt to hide, remove, or censor a piece of information has the unintended consequence of publicizing the information more wildly usually facilitated by the internet.

00:56:34.000 Okay.

00:56:35.000 Yeah.

00:56:36.000 They wanna eat babies. 1.00

00:56:39.000 No, I thought you guys...

00:56:46.000 But again, people make the false equation.

00:56:49.000 Oh, you're defending Alex Joe.

00:56:50.000 I'm not defending.

00:56:51.000 You're defending free speech.

00:56:53.000 I'm defending free speech.

00:56:54.000 And I understand the argument that, hey, it's a private corporation.

00:56:57.000 I get that.

00:56:58.000 I get that.

00:56:59.000 But if you took a look at the bigger picture, everyone thinks the Internet should be a public utility.

00:57:05.000 I mean, most people do.

00:57:06.000 And that's what they're upset that they're not treating it like a public utility.

00:57:09.000 Obama administration did.

00:57:10.000 They decided to at the last minute.

00:57:12.000 And so if you think the internet should be a public utility, I think YouTube and Facebook should be a public utility also.

00:57:19.000 But there's an opening for other people to make their own YouTube, like make a version of it.

00:57:27.000 If you have sufficient capital...

00:57:29.000 But you don't.

00:57:29.000 And if you do start it, they'll just buy you out.

00:57:32.000 Like I just showed you the example of WhatsApp.

00:57:35.000 They give you $19 billion on whatever they paid.

00:57:38.000 So they just eat up their competition.

00:57:40.000 So right now we need a Teddy Roosevelt to come along and break up all these monopolies. 1.00

00:57:44.000 It's never going to happen.

00:57:45.000 The end of the empire is coming.

00:57:47.000 So, here's the question.

00:57:49.000 Is there a valid parallel, a valid comparison?

00:57:54.000 Are there people that have things that are more hateful that are on YouTube that haven't been deplatformed?

00:58:00.000 Is it the influence that he has that's terrifying?

00:58:04.000 Is it the fact that He's a figurehead for this kind of stuff?

00:58:09.000 Is that what it is?

00:58:10.000 That this whole Infowars movement is, in some people's mind, a figurehead for this pro-Trump thing that they're trying to stop and silence?

00:58:20.000 Like, what is it?

00:58:21.000 I don't know.

00:58:22.000 It's very curious that it all happened at the same time, right?

00:58:25.000 And because there's a – in 1996, there was a law passed that actually insulates the platforms from being sued.

00:58:35.000 Did you know that?

00:58:36.000 Platforms.

00:58:37.000 So if someone puts up something – And so, like, say he puts something up that leads to someone getting killed, right, on Facebook.

00:58:42.000 You can't sue YouTube.

00:58:43.000 You can't sue Facebook for it.

00:58:45.000 That's in that 1996 law.

00:58:48.000 So there's that.

00:58:49.000 So I get that they're a private company, but again, they have the protection now of the law.

00:58:53.000 They have Congress protecting them.

00:58:55.000 So they have a certain...

00:58:56.000 That's a type of regulation.

00:58:58.000 You're regulated from them.

00:59:00.000 You can't sue them.

00:59:01.000 Right?

00:59:01.000 So I'm looking for this tweet by Glenn Greenwald that really...

00:59:05.000 Because if we're going to take down...

00:59:08.000 Here, I'll find it.

00:59:10.000 I'll find it.

00:59:12.000 Here it is.

00:59:13.000 He says...

00:59:15.000 There's been a tactic of censors for centuries.

00:59:18.000 They start with someone who is so utterly hated and marginalized that everyone is blinded by their hatred for the first censorship target that they cheer and forget that they're endorsing a principle and power that will then expand.

00:59:33.000 Yeah.

00:59:34.000 First they came for the Jews. 1.00

00:59:35.000 Yeah.

00:59:36.000 Right now we're allowing the whim of billionaires in the middle of the night to decide who gets to be on these monopolistic platforms and who doesn't.

00:59:43.000 If there was 10 YouTubes, no one would care.

00:59:46.000 But there isn't.

00:59:47.000 There's one YouTube.

00:59:48.000 There's one Facebook.

00:59:49.000 And they are monopolies, and that's the world we live in right now.

00:59:51.000 And that's why they're doing whatever the government wants them to do, because they don't want the government to regulate them.

00:59:56.000 That's why he went there and was sipping the water like that and trying to make eye contact and be nice, because he doesn't want them to regulate him.

01:00:03.000 He'll do it for...

01:00:03.000 Julian Assange in 2010 gave a speech, which I saw recently on a plane, where he predicted this.

01:00:08.000 He was like, the corporations are an extension of the government, and they will do the censorship in the future.

01:00:13.000 And that's exactly what's happening right now.

01:00:15.000 So do you think it's the government that's censoring Alex Jones?

01:00:18.000 Because I would think that the government that's in power currently would want to keep Alex Jones in position because he's a supporter of Trump.

01:00:23.000 He's a supporter of, you know...

01:00:26.000 So why is Trump going after Julian Assange?

01:00:29.000 Is it because he's afraid he'll expose him someday?

01:00:31.000 I don't know.

01:00:32.000 Why is he allowing the CIA to do that? 0.96

01:00:34.000 to go after Julian Assange and you know that just shows you how shitty the journalists are in America because not one of them are standing up for Julian Assange and they're all pretending that when Trump says mean things about Jim Acosta that somehow that's this unbelievable violation of our freedom of peace and our press and he's got you son of a bitch you know if you cared about freedom of the press you would say something about Julian Assange and no one is saying what lie has Julian Assange ever printed? 0.96

01:01:01.000 Nothing we can prove.

01:01:02.000 Never.

01:01:03.000 What did Julian Assange do?

01:01:04.000 He revealed that our election was being rigged by the Democratic Party.

01:01:09.000 Not Russia, but by the Democratic Party.

01:01:11.000 And that is a sin you can't commit.

01:01:12.000 You cannot tell the truth about the powerful.

01:01:14.000 And that's what's happening right now.

01:01:16.000 And, you know, he revealed the CIA has all those spying techniques.

01:01:22.000 That they can get your TV to listen to you, your phone, Vault 7, all that stuff.

01:01:28.000 He revealed that's why they want to get him.

01:01:30.000 And Trump, you know, I just think that Trump is just, you know, he's not really clued in, right?

01:01:36.000 He's glad to let the generals do the job and his underlings.

01:01:41.000 He doesn't really want to.

01:01:41.000 He wants to paint broad strokes and lets everyone.

01:01:44.000 You want to kill Julian Sons? 0.99

01:01:45.000 Go ahead. 0.99

01:01:45.000 I don't give a F. That's, I think, how he feels. 0.99

01:01:48.000 I don't think it's his plan to do it, but everybody else underneath him wants to, and certainly the intelligence community.

01:01:52.000 And everyone forgets this.

01:01:54.000 Chuck Schumer went on Rachel Maddow's show like two years ago and right out in public said that Trump is making a mistake by crossing the intelligence community because when you mess with them, they have six ways to Sunday to mess with you back. 0.99

01:02:07.000 Holy shit! 0.99

01:02:08.000 And nobody cared that he said that. 1.00

01:02:09.000 So what he's saying is the president should be afraid of unelected spooks.

01:02:14.000 Unelected bureaucrats.

01:02:15.000 He should be afraid of them.

01:02:17.000 And no one went, what?

01:02:18.000 What the F? Could you imagine saying that about Barack Obama?

01:02:21.000 Hey, Barack Obama better be nice to the CIA. They're going to F with him.

01:02:24.000 As an elected official.

01:02:26.000 Yeah.

01:02:26.000 Yes!

01:02:27.000 As an elected official saying that, almost sanctioning it.

01:02:30.000 Yes.

01:02:31.000 And then we have Eugene Robinson in the Washington Post writing an article begging the deep state to undermine Trump's foreign policy.

01:02:38.000 Ah.

01:02:38.000 Did you see that article?

01:02:39.000 No, that's crazy.

01:02:41.000 Yes, Pulitzer Prize winner.

01:02:42.000 First they spend all their life denying there is a deep state, and then Eugene Robinson writes an article begging the deep state to defy President Trump.

01:02:51.000 Why are they so blinded by ideology that they don't see the consequences of this?

01:02:55.000 There's unintended consequences, and here they are.

01:02:58.000 They've already come for me.

01:03:00.000 They're already coming for the left.

01:03:01.000 This is how this works.

01:03:05.000 So, again, that's why I warn all my friends about the Russiagate nonsense.

01:03:08.000 Chomsky said, if you care about the people meddling in our election, Russia would be the last place I would look.

01:03:14.000 The first place to look is concentrated capital.

01:03:17.000 That's what dictates who are going to be our government.

01:03:20.000 That's why we don't have the things the rest of the world has, because we have a—capital has captured our government, which is why we don't have Medicare for all, which is why we don't have free college, which is why we don't have an infrastructure plan, which is why we're an Great wars!

01:03:34.000 Meanwhile, people, half the country's poor or low income, 63% of the country can't afford a thousand dollar emergency, and a quarter of all kids are in poverty.

01:03:41.000 In the richest country in the world, Joe, what do you call a system that takes the richest country in the world and renders half of its population poor or low income? 1.00

01:03:49.000 That's a failed fucking system. 0.99

01:03:51.000 And that's what we're living in right now. 1.00

01:03:53.000 And it's failing worldwide.

01:03:55.000 Now, if you were someone like Google, though, or who owns YouTube, or if you were iTunes, or any of these platforms that have Spotify, when you get an overwhelming volume of complaints about someone who's in the news right now,

01:04:11.000 Because the fact that Alex Jones is being sued by the Sandy Hook parents, this is what started this all off.

01:04:18.000 To people, this is so egregious.

01:04:21.000 These poor parents lost their children, and here's this guy saying that it's fake.

01:04:26.000 And that they don't want that on their platform.

01:04:29.000 So would you think that they should just delete the episode that has that, that says that?

01:04:35.000 Should they do that, or should they allow that episode to stream?

01:04:41.000 Here's the solution.

01:04:43.000 If he did do something in a video that is illegal, take that video down until it gets adjudicated.

01:04:51.000 You don't de-platform them, you don't give them the death penalty.

01:04:55.000 Right, so, okay, what about like Stormfront?

01:04:57.000 What if you got like some white supremacist group that's calling for violence against people?

01:05:02.000 Do you take them down?

01:05:03.000 I think you would, again, you would have to, I would like to see some kind of adjudication.

01:05:08.000 You know, again, I... Well, the blanket policy is saying things like hate speech.

01:05:12.000 Right, again, it's all interpretation, and just a week ago, Mark Zuckerberg was defending it.

01:05:17.000 He was defending that we have Holocaust deniers on our platform.

01:05:20.000 Holocaust deniers, Joe!

01:05:21.000 And that's not fake news.

01:05:23.000 You're not going to take that down like I just told you. 0.97

01:05:25.000 They have guys defecating out of their mouth. 0.98

01:05:28.000 They have the National Enquirer. 0.90

01:05:32.000 They're still cool.

01:05:33.000 So this is a very squiggly line, Joe.

01:05:35.000 And again, there's no board.

01:05:36.000 There's no adjudication.

01:05:38.000 It's not transparent.

01:05:39.000 It's not transparent.

01:05:40.000 It's not rational either.

01:05:41.000 This is not a rational debate.

01:05:43.000 Let me just give you one more thing about what he says.

01:05:48.000 This is Matt Taibbi.

01:05:50.000 He says, They should be

01:06:20.000 worried, especially if this does escalate.

01:06:26.000 I understand that people who Believe that he's a Sandy Hook denier and they read those words.

01:06:33.000 They don't want him to have a platform.

01:06:36.000 They don't want him to be able to spread that hate.

01:06:38.000 I understand that they would feel like, imagine being one of those parents and you lost your kid and you're seeing this guy on TV or on YouTube saying it's all fake.

01:06:48.000 It's outrageous and it's repulsive.

01:06:50.000 I agree.

01:06:51.000 It's offensive and I get that.

01:06:53.000 But I think it's very dangerous to It's very dangerous to silence people that may or may not have any other recourse in terms of like...

01:07:09.000 He doesn't have the ability to defend himself.

01:07:12.000 He doesn't have the ability to make a video about it unless he puts it on his own website and then who's going to watch it?

01:07:18.000 Like the stuff that they're doing with YouTube, it's just...

01:07:22.000 It's a slippery slope, you know, and especially when they use these terms like hate speech.

01:07:28.000 They're not, like, when you say, like, what are they saying?

01:07:30.000 They're saying that he violated their terms, correct?

01:07:33.000 Yes.

01:07:34.000 So what are those terms that he violated, and what is a specific violation?

01:07:38.000 Like, what are the words that he said where you were like, enough is enough? 0.90

01:07:42.000 If that's the case, how did you let him get away with saying all this other shit for years and years? 0.96

01:07:46.000 And when do you draw this line? 0.98

01:07:48.000 Like, just that video that we played...

01:07:50.000 You know, they smell like sulfur.

01:07:51.000 They want to eat babies. 1.00

01:07:53.000 They're screaming, I love Satan, and they want to eat babies. 0.82

01:07:55.000 Like, wow.

01:07:57.000 Where does the line get drawn?

01:07:59.000 I don't think that should be up to subjectivity.

01:08:05.000 I think that should be a very, very hard question that's answered with very clear facts.

01:08:12.000 You should have an adversarial judicial process with an impartial judge or jury.

01:08:17.000 Right.

01:08:18.000 And how would you even get someone impartial?

01:08:20.000 Instead, they have in-house decisions.

01:08:23.000 Well, you heard Matt Tabe disdelineate the people who are involved in this stuff.

01:08:27.000 And by the way, Facebook's taking down pages of people who are Palestinians because the Israeli government tells them to, and they do it. 1.00

01:08:33.000 So you know about that, right?

01:08:35.000 I had heard about that.

01:08:36.000 Yes.

01:08:36.000 So that's them doing the bidding.

01:08:38.000 The government says, take it down.

01:08:39.000 Okay, take it down.

01:08:40.000 They don't get free speech?

01:08:41.000 Okay.

01:08:42.000 Because I don't want the government to get mad at me. 0.78

01:08:44.000 Because we're making so much goddamn money right now, I don't want the government to get mad at us.

01:08:47.000 That's what Facebook and YouTube is doing. 0.90

01:08:49.000 See...

01:08:51.000 I would like that if someone...

01:08:53.000 I'm not saying that no one should be taken down. 0.95

01:08:56.000 If someone's calling for the death of all black people, maybe it's not a good place to give them a platform. 0.99

01:09:00.000 But I feel like... 0.99

01:09:02.000 The problem that I'm having with this is these things like, air quotes, hate speech.

01:09:08.000 Because I told you that they said that about Sam Harris and Douglas Murray. 0.98

01:09:12.000 Now that is fucking crazy. 0.98

01:09:14.000 So when does it stop being hate speech? 0.99

01:09:16.000 Like, when do you draw the line?

01:09:18.000 Is it mildly offensive?

01:09:20.000 Is that hate speech?

01:09:21.000 Like, where does it go?

01:09:22.000 Where does it go where you're not allowed to have opinions?

01:09:24.000 Why aren't you allowed to hate people?

01:09:24.000 I don't understand why you're...

01:09:25.000 I don't get that. 0.95

01:09:27.000 I'm not being a dick. 0.51

01:09:28.000 I honestly...

01:09:29.000 Why aren't you allowed to hate things?

01:09:31.000 Right.

01:09:32.000 I understand that...

01:09:33.000 A calling for action, I think, is the issue.

01:09:36.000 So a call for action might be...

01:09:37.000 I mean, again, if it's a legal term, then...

01:09:39.000 This is not a legal term, though.

01:09:42.000 When they blanket things with hate speech, like we were saying, like calling something a drug, this is an illegal drug.

01:09:48.000 Well, what if caffeine becomes an illegal drug?

01:09:50.000 Then is that the same as meth?

01:09:52.000 It's clearly not.

01:09:53.000 There's different things.

01:09:54.000 So when you say hate speech, and you also lump Douglas Murray having an intellectual conversation with Sam Harris about immigration, you lump that in.

01:10:03.000 Well, that's what I'm talking about.

01:10:04.000 And so did you know that right before 4th of July, there was a newspaper?

01:10:08.000 I think it was in Texas.

01:10:09.000 And so they wanted to, for the 4th of July, they wanted to post the Declaration of Independence.

01:10:15.000 So they posted the first half of it.

01:10:16.000 Yeah.

01:10:17.000 Did you know about this?

01:10:17.000 Yes.

01:10:18.000 Facebook gave them a strike for hate speech.

01:10:19.000 Yes.

01:10:20.000 Hate speech.

01:10:21.000 They gave him a strike.

01:10:23.000 And so now they're like, they were like- That was an algorithm though, right?

01:10:25.000 That picked up some of the phrasing?

01:10:27.000 Some of the phrasing in there about slavery and stuff like that.

01:10:29.000 And them being animals or something like that.

01:10:31.000 I don't know.

01:10:32.000 Something like that.

01:10:33.000 I'm not sure what it was.

01:10:34.000 And then the newspaper said, now we're afraid to post the second half of the declaration because we'll get a second strike and they might pull our whole page.

01:10:41.000 Wow.

01:10:43.000 Yeah.

01:10:44.000 But they released that strike, correct?

01:10:47.000 Yeah.

01:10:48.000 So what is this idea that I need a nanny state to protect me from ideas?

01:10:53.000 Well, I think they're worried about the power of propaganda.

01:10:56.000 And it's just they don't know exactly what the consequences of suppressing that power of propaganda are.

01:11:01.000 I think that's really the primary issue.

01:11:03.000 They're worried that a guy like Alex Jones already has this massive following.

01:11:08.000 What he's done by calling Sandy Hook fake may be awful.

01:11:12.000 I believe it is.

01:11:13.000 But is it enough to completely deplatform him?

01:11:17.000 And how are they justifying it?

01:11:19.000 Well, even if it was, let's say it was.

01:11:21.000 Let's just say you and I agree that it is.

01:11:23.000 Okay.

01:11:26.000 Shouldn't there still be some kind of a process?

01:11:29.000 There should be.

01:11:30.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:11:31.000 It shouldn't be, even if we agreed, and again, I hate it as much as you hate it.

01:11:35.000 I'm with you.

01:11:37.000 Joe, last time I was on your show, I said people are going to take what I'm saying right now and twist it, and that's exactly what they did to me last night.

01:11:44.000 Who did?

01:11:45.000 Who took it and twisted it?

01:11:46.000 I don't want to elevate.

01:11:47.000 Well, we don't have to name names, but what did they do?

01:11:51.000 They twisted what we were talking about Seth Rich.

01:11:53.000 And I said, you know, all I did was cover it on my show.

01:11:56.000 Until this day, people still say I was pushing it.

01:11:58.000 I do a new show.

01:11:59.000 I covered it.

01:12:00.000 But even discussing it.

01:12:01.000 And you can't even discuss it.

01:12:02.000 Like, I couldn't cover it, couldn't discuss it.

01:12:04.000 And so that's exactly what happened.

01:12:06.000 Pumply cut me saying that and cut some other stuff and put it together. 1.00

01:12:09.000 And I was like, son of a bitch. 1.00

01:12:11.000 So what are you going to do, right? 1.00

01:12:12.000 So what are you going to do?

01:12:13.000 So I just want people to know, this is, again, I'm just as offended as everybody.

01:12:19.000 I'm saying we need to have these things be public utilities for a lot of reasons.

01:12:23.000 And that, you know, exactly what Matt Taibbi said, the endgame here is very clear, and they want to be able to censor people they want to be able to censor.

01:12:31.000 And the first people they're going to come after is left-wing organizations.

01:12:34.000 They're going to come after Black Lives Matter. 1.00

01:12:36.000 They've already come after lefties like me, Joe.

01:12:38.000 Why do you think they're going to come after Black Lives Matter?

01:12:41.000 What do you mean?

01:12:42.000 They hate speech against the police.

01:12:43.000 You kidding me?

01:12:44.000 They already said they're controlled by the Russians.

01:12:46.000 Well, who is they?

01:12:47.000 Who is they saying that, and who's they going to come after them?

01:12:50.000 What do you mean by that?

01:12:51.000 So, well, the FBI will infiltrate them.

01:12:53.000 I'm sure they already have.

01:12:54.000 You know how that works.

01:12:55.000 Yeah, they probably already have.

01:12:56.000 So you know how all that stuff works.

01:12:57.000 So that's how that stuff works.

01:12:58.000 And then they discredit them.

01:13:00.000 And then they will commit violence in their name and say, oh, look, Black Lives Matters are violent. 0.73

01:13:04.000 No, that was a cop doing it.

01:13:05.000 You know, that's what happened up in Dapples.

01:13:08.000 You know, that's the kind of stuff they do up there.

01:13:10.000 Agent provocateurs.

01:13:11.000 Yes, exactly.

01:13:12.000 Right?

01:13:12.000 Well, by the way, I learned about that from Alex Jones.

01:13:15.000 Yeah.

01:13:15.000 So that's the problem with Alex Jones.

01:13:17.000 He's right about stuff sometimes.

01:13:19.000 Yes, and while he was way more right about stuff in the past, Alex himself, and I've talked to him about this, says he drinks too much, and he's getting too crazy, and he needs to go on a diet and exercise and start getting his life in order, and he takes things too far sometimes, and he goes off the rails.

01:13:36.000 He and I had a conversation, but he got mad at me for saying that I didn't think George Soros was a Nazi.

01:13:42.000 And so he had this whole thing, ranted, and then we talked back and forth, and he apologized, and, you know, he said, sometimes I take things too far.

01:13:50.000 You're the one taking DFT, Joe!

01:13:51.000 You're the one taking DFT, Joe!

01:13:52.000 I'm talking to aliens.

01:13:54.000 I didn't say that!

01:13:55.000 You didn't!

01:13:56.000 I think he recognizes that sometimes he's just caught up in that cycle of outrage.

01:14:02.000 That cycle of outrage, there's no room to step back and to sort of reset.

01:14:12.000 It's just constant outrage, constantly under attack.

01:14:16.000 And then there's these words that get thrown around that sort of lose their meaning, like globalists and shills and this sort of attitude that there's this cabal of evil that is trying to take over the world.

01:14:36.000 Alex had this idea that they were going to try to kill off most people.

01:14:41.000 And you remember that?

01:14:43.000 I heard about it.

01:14:44.000 There was this idea that they wanted to euthanize, or it was genocide.

01:14:48.000 They wanted to break it down to, what is the word where they talk about doing that?

01:15:02.000 I think?

01:15:13.000 That whole cycle of constant outrage and everything's a conspiracy and you get just whacked out and caught up in it.

01:15:24.000 If you go back to Alex's earlier videos, I met Alex in 98, I believe.

01:15:31.000 And back then, Alex was going after George W. Bush when George W. Bush was running for president.

01:15:38.000 And he was saying that this guy is a puppet, and that he's a puppet of the CIA, and he supports genocide, and he was showing up at campaign rallies, and they were arresting him.

01:15:51.000 He was anti-right-wing.

01:15:54.000 I mean, he was anti what he thought was this globalist agenda.

01:15:57.000 He also infiltrated Bohemian Grove when everybody thought that Bohemian Grove was nonsense.

01:16:02.000 There's nothing really going on. 0.98

01:16:03.000 He's like, no, these really rich people are getting together with heads of state and foreign dignitaries and they're dressing up like fucking druids and they have an effigy that they burn in front of the owl god Molech and people are like, he's crazy. 0.90

01:16:16.000 Then he releases the video and like, oh my god, they really do do that. 0.72

01:16:20.000 Like, he did some good work.

01:16:22.000 The World Trade Organization protests, in his video, 9-11, A Road to Tyranny.

01:16:28.000 Right after 9-11, he releases this video that shows that the World Trade Organization protests were infiltrated by these agent provocateurs, who were most likely government agents with government agent boots on, by the way.

01:16:42.000 He shows this in the video.

01:16:43.000 They smash windows.

01:16:44.000 They're all wearing masks.

01:16:46.000 They light things on fire.

01:16:47.000 Then they all hole up in one house.

01:16:49.000 They negotiate with the police and are all eventually released.

01:16:53.000 This is all done under...

01:16:54.000 I mean, he proved all this.

01:16:55.000 He showed all how this is going.

01:16:57.000 Like, look at these peaceful protesters.

01:16:59.000 Then, the consequences of that, they established a no-protest line at the WTO where you couldn't go by with a pin on.

01:17:07.000 If you tried to get through with a pin, That said WTO with a red line through it.

01:17:12.000 They told you, you could not wear that pin.

01:17:14.000 You can't come through here.

01:17:15.000 This is a no protest zone.

01:17:17.000 And he's like, this is the consequences of this kind of censorship.

01:17:20.000 And this is how they establish the censorship.

01:17:23.000 They make it seem like your organization is violent and dangerous by introducing violent and dangerous elements in the form of undercover police officers or military.

01:17:33.000 They smash windows, tip over newspaper stands and... 0.99

01:17:37.000 Fucking create chaos so that the government has to come in because now we have a violent situation. 0.99

01:17:42.000 So then the military comes in and arrests protesters and silences the protests so they don't look embarrassing in front of all these people from foreign countries that are coming here to the World Trade Organization. 0.99

01:17:53.000 I didn't know he did that, but...

01:17:55.000 Dude, look, he's not wrong always, and he was more right back then.

01:18:00.000 He was also more sane back then.

01:18:02.000 He was more measured and more calm.

01:18:05.000 It wasn't this...

01:18:05.000 He didn't have the big moon face back then either, and he wasn't drinking as much, I don't think, and the screaming and the spitting.

01:18:11.000 And, you know, you ask him, he'll say, well, I'm just overwhelmed by the sheer volume of corruption and all the shit that he sees every day. 0.91

01:18:19.000 Look, do you remember he was crying when Trump bombed Syria? 1.00

01:18:23.000 He was crying because he was crying that Trump fucked us. 1.00

01:18:27.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:18:27.000 You know, I mean, he, I really genuinely believe most of the time that he means well. 0.99

01:18:33.000 The thing is, when you look for conspiracies everywhere, like everything that's a conspiracy, you're off track.

01:18:40.000 And I don't think there's anyone there that can sit down and go, stop, hold on.

01:18:45.000 Let's examine this in a factual way.

01:18:48.000 Let's cut the hyperbole out and let's look at what the facts are and where are we getting these facts and why do we think this is happening and why do you think this is fake? 0.96

01:18:55.000 Because that sounds fucking crazy to me.

01:18:57.000 No one's there to do that. 0.96

01:18:59.000 If someone was there to do that, I think he probably would be stopped and would examine things and would balance out.

01:19:06.000 One of the reasons why I wanted to have him on my podcast when I did is because I wanted people to see the Alex that I know.

01:19:11.000 Because people are like, how could you know that guy?

01:19:13.000 I'm like, look at how he is when I get him high and we get drunk and he's laughing about stuff and talking about interdimensional child molesters and all that.

01:19:21.000 This is what I wanted everybody to see.

01:19:23.000 This is Alex Jones.

01:19:24.000 He's a fun guy.

01:19:25.000 It's just that is not a good position to be in where you're constantly looking for conspiracies everywhere you go.

01:19:33.000 And you might nail a few.

01:19:35.000 But then you might call out a bunch of them that are fake, which not just negates the ones that you nailed, but negates everything you say.

01:19:43.000 As soon as you're one of those guys that everything's a conspiracy and then dead kids aren't really dead and everyone's an actor and like everything you say that's good, they're gonna stop.

01:19:54.000 My thing is that I focus on the ones that are important, right?

01:20:01.000 I care about wars and the lies that are told about wars from the media, which the media pushes every war in my lifetime.

01:20:12.000 So that's the ones I care about.

01:20:14.000 I hear everything you're saying, and yeah, I didn't really know, I gotta say God, I didn't really know much about Alex Jones until I met him, you know, very famously at that incident.

01:20:25.000 I didn't really, I never really watched him.

01:20:26.000 I went home that night and watched some of his videos, which is when I found out some of them are really funny.

01:20:31.000 And so, honest to God, I didn't really know much about him, and so I don't even know this stuff.

01:20:36.000 See if you can find it, Jamie.

01:20:38.000 Did they pull all that stuff from YouTube, everything?

01:20:40.000 Everything.

01:20:42.000 But doesn't someone else have it probably on their channel?

01:20:44.000 And I never did videos about him or debunked, but I just, you know, he wasn't in my line of sight.

01:20:52.000 I was busy making fun of MSNBC and CNN. That's what I like to do.

01:20:56.000 Yeah, it's...

01:20:58.000 It's all very confusing to me, and I don't think he should say those things.

01:21:04.000 I don't think he should say lies about kids not being dead.

01:21:09.000 The horrors of being a parent and your kid was shot in a school shooting, and then some guy is saying that they're 100% actors and fake and...

01:21:18.000 Yeah, that's horrible stuff.

01:21:19.000 There's a guy who was one of the parents that was a conspiracy theorist until this happened.

01:21:23.000 He was a conspiracy theorist.

01:21:24.000 He believed all that stuff.

01:21:26.000 And then his son was killed.

01:21:26.000 And then they started calling him a fraud and saying he was an actor and saying it never happened and that he's a paid shill.

01:21:33.000 And there's a big article about this guy.

01:21:36.000 I mean, you see this guy talk and it's heartbreaking.

01:21:40.000 You read his words.

01:21:41.000 It's heartbreaking.

01:21:42.000 You can't imagine.

01:21:43.000 Your son was murdered in one of the biggest school massacres ever, if not the biggest, right?

01:21:48.000 And here's people running around emailing you and sending you tweets and Facebook messages that you're a fraud and that you work for the globalists and this is all just a plot to take our guns away.

01:22:01.000 It's like... 1.00

01:22:01.000 Holy shit, man. 1.00

01:22:02.000 That's what they say these things are. 1.00

01:22:03.000 That's the people who think all these school shootings, that they're all set up so they can take our guns away.

01:22:10.000 They think that about everything.

01:22:11.000 They thought that about the Country Music Festival shooting in Vegas.

01:22:14.000 In Vegas?

01:22:15.000 Because they felt like, hey, here's a way to get those people on our side.

01:22:19.000 Oh.

01:22:19.000 Yeah.

01:22:41.000 I bet a lot of those people are NRA people.

01:22:43.000 A lot of people are gun owners.

01:22:44.000 I bet just gun owners?

01:22:45.000 How many people are gun owners? 1.00

01:22:47.000 Fucking half, at least half the audience. 0.99

01:22:49.000 Probably one of the strongest demographics you could find. 1.00

01:22:52.000 Country music, gun owners.

01:22:54.000 That's a giant connection. 0.67

01:22:56.000 And so the thought was, hey, if this guy, they make this Manchurian candidate, make him gun down all these people.

01:23:02.000 Some people think he didn't even do it.

01:23:04.000 They think they shot him in the room and then...

01:23:06.000 Agents did it, and they killed all these people.

01:23:08.000 And then there's bullets coming out of all these different windows and all these different areas. 0.99

01:23:12.000 I'm like, oh my god, it's fucking exhausting. 0.90

01:23:14.000 No, it's exhausting. 0.98

01:23:16.000 I know.

01:23:16.000 It's exhausting.

01:23:17.000 And it's also horrific, man.

01:23:19.000 I mean, the whole thing's horrific.

01:23:21.000 The idea that they think that the government would create a false flag, that by the way didn't do anything, Second Amendment's still in place, but that they would create a false flag and they would be willing to gun down, what are they, he killed like 50 plus people and shot like 500? 0.99

01:23:37.000 Something fucking insane like that?

01:23:39.000 That that would be the, that that's, they would get together and go, you know what we gotta do? 1.00

01:23:42.000 We gotta get this guy and get him, get him to shoot all these people and that's how we're gonna get rid of guns.

01:23:48.000 It's totally unaffected, it hasn't done anything. 0.99

01:23:52.000 No.

01:23:52.000 Here's the thing, and I'm not the first person to make this point about guns, is people who are big, strong Second Amendment people say that, well, you know, because whenever I advocate for gun control, people say, oh, good, that only the government will have guns, which is not a bad argument, right?

01:24:06.000 I understand that argument.

01:24:09.000 But the whole point of you keeping your guns to protect yourself from the government is that the government's going to take your rights away, so you need to have your guns to protect your rights.

01:24:18.000 Well, the government already took your rights away.

01:24:20.000 They're already reading every email.

01:24:21.000 They're already listening on every – you already lost your right to privacy.

01:24:24.000 They let you keep your guns while they took the rest of your rights away, so now you still have your guns.

01:24:28.000 Now why don't you go get your rights back?

01:24:30.000 You have your gun.

01:24:31.000 They're never going to do it, right?

01:24:33.000 Minority Report was an interesting take on that, right?

01:24:35.000 Like, one day technology to reach a point, you know, for them it was like through those little psychic dudes, that we're going to be able to predict future crime.

01:24:45.000 Right.

01:24:45.000 And then he arrests you for a future crime.

01:24:47.000 Yeah.

01:24:48.000 Mm-hmm.

01:24:49.000 Yeah, they kind of do that now.

01:24:52.000 They can arrest you for a conspiracy to commit a crime.

01:24:54.000 Well, you don't even have to have a crime, right? 1.00

01:24:56.000 You just have some emails talking shit. 1.00

01:24:58.000 I mean, you could have a role-playing thing that you do with your wife where you talk about, you know, listen, you and I, we're Bonnie and Clyde, and we're going to take down the government and just fucking kick down your door in the middle of the night. 1.00

01:25:09.000 Yeah.

01:25:09.000 Who's that comic who had the ICE agents break down the door?

01:25:14.000 Oh my god, that guy!

01:25:15.000 I started following him after that.

01:25:16.000 He made a joke!

01:25:18.000 Yeah, what was the joke?

01:25:19.000 Oh, I forget, but that was hilarious.

01:25:21.000 We'll find out.

01:25:21.000 That guy's pretty funny, by the way, too.

01:25:22.000 That guy's pretty funny.

01:25:23.000 I do not know this guy.

01:25:23.000 I wanted to have him on my show and I forgot.

01:25:26.000 Because that story he tells is hilarious about those ice cops.

01:25:29.000 They were ice cops, right?

01:25:30.000 Yeah.

01:25:31.000 Coming into his place.

01:25:32.000 What is his name?

01:25:32.000 Jake Flores.

01:25:33.000 Jake Flores.

01:25:34.000 That's right.

01:25:35.000 Part-time stand-up comic, podcast host, and self-described pizza delivery guy who, in a strange twist of fate, recently found himself debating immigration policy with four Homeland Security agents in his home.

01:25:45.000 The agents paid him an early morning visit last Sunday because of some jokes he tweeted about Cinco de Mayo. 0.98

01:25:51.000 Holy shit. 0.99

01:25:52.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:25:53.000 Okay, this is what he said.

01:25:54.000 Here's how Cinco de Mayo works in 2018. White people are allowed to culturally appropriate on the condition that you help destroy ice. 0.96

01:26:01.000 You kill one ice agent, you get to wear a sombrero. 0.96

01:26:04.000 Two kills, you get to wear a poncho. 0.61

01:26:07.000 That's funny! 0.83

01:26:10.000 But the problem is you can't joke around about killing an agent.

01:26:14.000 So if he had a Sirius XM radio show, he'd be fired right now.

01:26:18.000 Oh, yeah.

01:26:19.000 Well, they fired Nick DiPaolo for saying something very similar to that.

01:26:22.000 And so I say about that, it's like, so Nick can't make a joke about someone going into a university, go, hey, the next school shooter, that was his joke, next school shooter, please go to the Berkeley and go to the teacher's lounge or something like that, right?

01:26:33.000 Which everyone knows is obviously a joke. 0.99

01:26:35.000 He's a goddamn comedian. 1.00

01:26:36.000 Jesus. 1.00

01:26:37.000 And he's a right-wing comedian, too.

01:26:38.000 And he's a right-wing comedian. 0.99

01:26:40.000 But you can go on those same radio shows and those same radio stations, and you can advocate for killing hundreds of thousands of people in another country that you don't know, and nobody says shit. 0.99

01:26:49.000 All the time people do that. 0.99

01:26:50.000 People lie about it.

01:26:51.000 So that's the weird thing.

01:26:53.000 We can have a torture program in America, and nobody goes...

01:26:56.000 It's just weird.

01:26:57.000 And then the media goes along.

01:26:59.000 They don't even call it torture.

01:27:00.000 They call it enhanced interrogation techniques because we're doing it.

01:27:03.000 But Nick said that.

01:27:04.000 That's all of a sudden. 0.99

01:27:05.000 So it's just such a weird, squiggly, bullshit line of morality. 0.98

01:27:10.000 And now Nick will probably be better off for it anyway. 0.98

01:27:13.000 Yeah, Nick will be better off for it, and he has a podcast now.

01:27:16.000 But I think, unfortunately, he's doing a subscription service, which I try to talk all these guys out of.

01:27:21.000 You can't hear it at all for free?

01:27:23.000 You have to pay.

01:27:24.000 For all of it?

01:27:25.000 I don't know.

01:27:26.000 That's a bad idea.

01:27:27.000 Yeah.

01:27:28.000 It limits your growth.

01:27:29.000 I mean, he's a famous comedian, so I'm sure he'll get some money, and I know he's probably doing really well with it.

01:27:34.000 But it's just impossible to grow.

01:27:37.000 Is it a subscription service?

01:27:38.000 How does it work?

01:27:39.000 Jamie's shaking his head.

01:27:40.000 999 on Patreon.

01:27:43.000 10 bucks a month?

01:27:44.000 Or more.

01:27:46.000 He doesn't give you...

01:27:47.000 Or more?

01:27:47.000 You start at 10 and then keep adding more?

01:27:49.000 So no, what we do is we give away all our stuff for free, except we maybe do a couple extra hours a week for our patrons.

01:27:57.000 Yeah.

01:27:58.000 That's like bonus.

01:27:59.000 Right.

01:28:00.000 But you don't want to...

01:28:01.000 That's not the worst thing in the world.

01:28:02.000 I just think that people have different...

01:28:06.000 Do you do bonus stuff?

01:28:07.000 No.

01:28:07.000 No?

01:28:07.000 Everything's free?

01:28:08.000 Everything's free.

01:28:09.000 You're really lucky you're super popular.

01:28:12.000 Yeah, but when I wasn't super popular, it was all free too.

01:28:14.000 I had it free in the beginning when I was getting a thousand downloads.

01:28:17.000 It's always been free.

01:28:19.000 When did it start to kick in for you?

01:28:21.000 When did you start to take off the show?

01:28:23.000 Two years ago, three years ago, something like that.

01:28:26.000 Really?

01:28:26.000 You say about two years ago, three years ago.

01:28:27.000 Was it an issue or what is it?

01:28:29.000 You had a special guest on?

01:28:30.000 What was it, you think?

01:28:32.000 I don't know.

01:28:33.000 It's momentum, just over time.

01:28:35.000 Just always, just constantly doing it, grinding, being in here.

01:28:41.000 Delivering on time.

01:28:41.000 Three, four days a week.

01:28:43.000 Yeah, you do your best.

01:28:45.000 Do your best.

01:28:46.000 Get better at it.

01:28:47.000 Make mistakes.

01:28:48.000 Apologize for your mistakes.

01:28:49.000 Keep going.

01:28:49.000 See, because when I did your show last time, I just, you know, you're just in my head ever since.

01:28:54.000 Like, I... I always, like, you are doing what I want to do.

01:28:59.000 Like, you don't...

01:29:00.000 I loved when I go, Joe, don't...

01:29:01.000 Because people are always trying to discredit me.

01:29:03.000 I don't know how I got into a position where I have to worry about being discredited. 0.99

01:29:07.000 I'm a fucking nightclub jagoff comedian. 0.99

01:29:09.000 And I have to worry. 0.99

01:29:10.000 That's why you're like, I don't...

01:29:11.000 I announce cage fighting.

01:29:13.000 I smoke the pot.

01:29:13.000 I'm not a reputable person.

01:29:15.000 I'm like, I want to be you!

01:29:17.000 I want to be you.

01:29:18.000 That's who I want to be.

01:29:19.000 I'm not a reputable person. 1.00

01:29:21.000 Fuck you. 1.00

01:29:22.000 Well, I do my best to be honest. 1.00

01:29:24.000 I mean, I approach issues in an honest way, but I'm not your source of reason.

01:29:29.000 But you know what I mean.

01:29:30.000 Yeah.

01:29:31.000 I'm not that guy.

01:29:32.000 I want to be a provocateur.

01:29:33.000 I want to be the guy on the outside throwing the spitballs.

01:29:36.000 That's who I want to be.

01:29:37.000 But you are doing that.

01:29:37.000 That's who I am.

01:29:38.000 You are doing that.

01:29:39.000 Somehow I got caught up in this thing where people are going to try to discredit you. 1.00

01:29:43.000 God damn it. 0.97

01:29:47.000 I'm confused by this Alex Jones thing, because although I don't support a lot of the things that he said, I don't know why more people don't think that this could be a real problem, that they could just throw that hate speech blanket on things. 0.99

01:30:02.000 And if I didn't have that experience of talking to that woman where she was describing the Douglas Murray-Sam Harris podcast, which doesn't have A single slur.

01:30:12.000 There's no hateful rhetoric.

01:30:15.000 I mean, it's not hate speech.

01:30:16.000 I listen to it.

01:30:18.000 It's just a description.

01:30:19.000 I mean, it's a discussion, rather.

01:30:21.000 So you have that insight.

01:30:22.000 I know how calmly and confidently she said it's hate speech.

01:30:27.000 It was like, you know what it was like?

01:30:29.000 Do you remember those old commercials where there was a guy, and he was eating with another guy, and he was saying that if you buy drugs, you support terrorism?

01:30:38.000 Yeah.

01:30:38.000 I was like, what do you mean?

01:30:39.000 He's like, it's a fact.

01:30:40.000 It's just a fact.

01:30:41.000 F-A-C-T, fact.

01:30:42.000 And he's eating a salad.

01:30:43.000 He's a no-nonsense guy.

01:30:44.000 Fact.

01:30:45.000 Yeah.

01:30:45.000 What do you mean it's a fact?

01:30:46.000 It's a fact.

01:30:47.000 F-A-C-T fact. 0.83

01:30:49.000 You bipod. 0.97

01:30:50.000 You're supporting terrorism. 0.89

01:30:51.000 But it's basically what she said.

01:30:52.000 It's hate speech.

01:30:53.000 It's basically the same sort of self-righteous indignation.

01:30:57.000 Certainty, yeah.

01:30:58.000 When I was pressing her on it, it was almost like she was my boss, and I couldn't talk to her about it.

01:31:04.000 I'm like...

01:31:04.000 I don't work for you.

01:31:06.000 You understand that this method of communication that you're accustomed to, this does not apply here.

01:31:12.000 You have to discuss these ideas.

01:31:14.000 I want to know the merit of your thoughts.

01:31:17.000 I want to see where your thought process lies, that you could just throw this...

01:31:21.000 Hate speech blanket on things, and it turns out there was no thought, and there was no consideration, there was no examination.

01:31:27.000 She didn't know the content of the conversation.

01:31:29.000 And her confidence in saying that it was hate speech was merely towing this company line, the same company line that got James Damore fired for the Google memo.

01:31:39.000 You know, you talk to actual evolutionary biologists and people who understand psychology and people who are clinical psychologists.

01:31:48.000 Will they talk to you about the real differences between men and women and what he actually said in these documents where he didn't make some sort of a quantitative Like a ruling that women are less valuable or that women are worth less money or that women are in somehow in any way shape or form inferior.

01:32:09.000 He simply wrote about clinical studies that have shown tendencies to gravitate towards different professions and even had a page and a half in that about how there's ways that we could encourage more women to get into tech.

01:32:24.000 So it was not negative in any way towards women.

01:32:27.000 But I saw all these people describing it as hateful rhetoric and that it was reinforcing harmful gender stereotypes.

01:32:35.000 Like, what, with actual studies?

01:32:38.000 Actual studies of science?

01:32:40.000 These are harmful gender stereotypes because they don't add up to your...

01:32:45.000 Vision of Narnia diversity that only exists in Wakanda and some cloud somewhere that you've put up?

01:32:54.000 These are not real numbers.

01:32:56.000 There's reasons why people gravitate towards certain professions.

01:33:00.000 Some of them are cultural.

01:33:01.000 Some of them are biological.

01:33:03.000 They're fascinating to study.

01:33:05.000 But it doesn't mean that a person who becomes a nurse is any better than a person who becomes a carpenter, or a guy who becomes a surgeon is any better than someone who becomes a computer coder.

01:33:16.000 This is not what anyone's saying.

01:33:17.000 What they're saying is there's reasons why people find different things interesting, and some of them might be the amount of testosterone they have in their system, the fact they have XY chromosomes, their genetic history, the history of their family and the culture that they grew up in.

01:33:34.000 There's all these variables, and these variables are fascinating.

01:33:37.000 But as soon as you say that these variables must even out at the end, we must have an equality of outcome based on gender and based on race, well, you're not even talking about people anymore.

01:33:49.000 Now you're just talking about something that you need to say in order for you to keep your job, because you want to keep collecting ones and zeros, and you understand that there's this confusion as to why there's not more women that are leaders, why there's not more women that are in tech.

01:34:04.000 Why there's not more this, more that.

01:34:05.000 You really want to concentrate on diversity?

01:34:07.000 You really want to concentrate on fairness?

01:34:09.000 Concentrate on why they're trying to keep Asians out of Harvard.

01:34:11.000 How about that? 1.00

01:34:12.000 Because that's some real fucking racism that's going on right now. 0.99

01:34:15.000 No one's saying a word about it because it's about people that are kicking ass. 1.00

01:34:18.000 They're kicking ass too hard. 0.96

01:34:21.000 They're trying to make it more difficult. 0.99

01:34:22.000 It's a giant class action lawsuit.

01:34:24.000 Asians are suing Harvard because it's more difficult for them to get in than anybody else. 0.73

01:34:30.000 Well, when I was a kid, I was told that they pee-pee in your coke, and that's...

01:34:34.000 I know, I was like... 1.00

01:34:35.000 Yeah, now I grew up, I know that's bullshit, that's just a thing that they would tell us. 0.99

01:34:40.000 Little kids. 0.99

01:34:41.000 Little kids would say that.

01:34:41.000 It just rhymes, that's all it is.

01:34:44.000 Joe, the antidote to the Charles Murray chat, the antidote to that isn't to censor them.

01:34:53.000 The antidote to that is more speech.

01:34:56.000 It wasn't even them.

01:34:57.000 It was the person who put it on their playlist, which is crazy.

01:35:01.000 Someone got a community guideline strike for putting it on their playlist.

01:35:04.000 That's why I say we need to have it be...

01:35:08.000 YouTube, Facebook, these are public utilities.

01:35:10.000 They need to be regulated.

01:35:12.000 And there's no getting around it, right?

01:35:15.000 They have super control in our culture.

01:35:17.000 They have massive impact.

01:35:19.000 But so does CBS, right?

01:35:20.000 So if you say something and CBS fires you, is that legal?

01:35:24.000 Isn't it funny that Les Moonves is getting in trouble for something he did to an actress?

01:35:29.000 In the 80s.

01:35:31.000 Yeah, and instead of him being...

01:35:33.000 That's a long time ago.

01:35:34.000 Was it the 80s?

01:35:36.000 I think it was at least 20 years ago.

01:35:38.000 It was 1996 with the one...

01:35:39.000 Oh, was it?

01:35:40.000 Yeah.

01:35:40.000 Okay.

01:35:41.000 So that's still a long time ago.

01:35:42.000 Yeah.

01:35:43.000 Oh, the 80s was...

01:35:44.000 I'm sorry.

01:35:45.000 I was confusing that with...

01:35:47.000 You're thinking of Sylvester Stallone.

01:35:49.000 No, I wasn't thinking of Sylvester Stallone.

01:35:51.000 I was thinking of George Takai.

01:35:53.000 Oh.

01:35:54.000 George Takai, some guy popped out from the 80s.

01:35:56.000 That was the 80s. 1.00

01:35:57.000 85 said he grabbed his dick like, hey, let it go, buddy. 1.00

01:36:00.000 Jesus Christ. 1.00

01:36:02.000 You know?

01:36:04.000 And it's also, it's not the same.

01:36:06.000 You know, there was a molester at my church.

01:36:07.000 We had a priest that was a molester named Father Hollihan. 0.81

01:36:10.000 Shocker. 0.69

01:36:11.000 Wait a minute.

01:36:12.000 Is it a Catholic church?

01:36:13.000 Shocker. 1.00

01:36:14.000 What the fuck, man? 1.00

01:36:15.000 You can't trust anybody. 1.00

01:36:18.000 And the kids, we used to call him Happy Hands Holohan, because whenever he'd come up, he'd always want to wrestle you.

01:36:24.000 But he was the last kind of guy. 0.91

01:36:25.000 He was a nerd.

01:36:26.000 He's not a wrestling type guy. 0.97

01:36:29.000 Right, he wasn't a rapist.

01:36:31.000 He'd always come up like, hey, why are you doing that?

01:36:34.000 You're just trying to grab me.

01:36:34.000 And so we would call him Happy Hands Holohan, and we would get in trouble.

01:36:38.000 If our parents heard us, that's disrespectful to the people. 0.99

01:36:41.000 You know he's grabbing our dicks. 0.99

01:36:43.000 Right. 0.99

01:36:44.000 Yeah.

01:36:44.000 So they finally caught him, and I don't know why I started talking about this, but...

01:36:51.000 Yeah, why did I start talking about this?

01:36:54.000 Oh, I know, because we're talking about...

01:36:56.000 George Takai.

01:36:57.000 Yeah, George Takai.

01:36:58.000 We always thought it was up to you to not get molested by him.

01:37:02.000 Like, if you got caught, and we would laugh.

01:37:05.000 Right.

01:37:05.000 We would laugh at kids who got caught and got molested.

01:37:08.000 Slow kids.

01:37:08.000 Yeah.

01:37:09.000 Gotta run faster, fucker. 1.00

01:37:12.000 That's so sad. 1.00

01:37:13.000 He would take us.

01:37:14.000 He had a summer house, right, with a boat up in Wisconsin, right?

01:37:18.000 So he would take us, and it was like an hour and a half away.

01:37:21.000 We'd get in his station wagon.

01:37:22.000 He'd take like six boys up to there, and we're going to go water skiing or whatever, right?

01:37:27.000 And so he had the day set up where once you got there, you had to first do cleaning.

01:37:32.000 So you had to change into your cleaning clothes.

01:37:36.000 Yeah.

01:37:36.000 Oh, Jesus.

01:37:37.000 And so every time we had to go in the room and change, he would find a reason to come in the room and wrestle one of us.

01:37:41.000 Oh, God.

01:37:43.000 And then we were like, all right, we got to put up with it because we want to go in his boat.

01:37:45.000 You know, we were poor.

01:37:48.000 Oh my god.

01:37:49.000 We're poor.

01:37:50.000 You know, we grew up poor.

01:37:50.000 Isn't it funny how it's only funny if it's you?

01:37:53.000 Like, you're allowed to laugh about getting molested as long as it's you.

01:37:56.000 Yes.

01:37:57.000 You know, like, no one can say.

01:37:58.000 Well, Jimmy was on the Joe Rogan show and he was laughing about child molestation.

01:38:03.000 Oh my god.

01:38:04.000 Is that true?

01:38:05.000 Hate speech.

01:38:06.000 Put the blanket on it.

01:38:08.000 Hate speech.

01:38:09.000 But no, he was talking about him getting molested. 0.97

01:38:12.000 Well, he's normalizing sexual assault.

01:38:16.000 He would take us, this priest would try to teach you how to ski.

01:38:19.000 You know, how do you teach someone how to water ski? 1.00

01:38:21.000 You put your dick in their mouth. 1.00

01:38:22.000 He put your dick in their mouth. 1.00

01:38:27.000 Do you know how to breathe underwater here? 1.00

01:38:28.000 It's like this.

01:38:29.000 Here we go.

01:38:29.000 Now hold your nose.

01:38:33.000 No spitting.

01:38:34.000 So the way you teach someone how to water ski is, you put water skis on them, and then you sit there on the dock, and then you pull away.

01:38:40.000 Right.

01:38:41.000 And that's how you learn.

01:38:42.000 So he would take us in shallow water, and then he would put the skis on you so you couldn't run away from them.

01:38:49.000 Oh, God. 0.98

01:38:49.000 And then he would put his hands underneath your crotch like this. 0.98

01:38:54.000 To pick you up. 0.99

01:38:55.000 And then he goes, now when the boat pulls, it's going to pull you up like this. 0.98

01:38:57.000 And then it's going to jerk you off. 0.99

01:39:00.000 And the only way, you gotta catch it in your mouth. 1.00

01:39:06.000 What the fuck, man? 1.00

01:39:07.000 And so we looked at it like it was your job to get out of that situation. 1.00

01:39:11.000 Oh, no.

01:39:11.000 And if you got caught, we'd all laugh at you.

01:39:13.000 I remember my friend Danny.

01:39:16.000 You would laugh.

01:39:17.000 You would laugh.

01:39:18.000 We'd laugh.

01:39:18.000 Oh, my God, poor Danny.

01:39:19.000 We see him, he's in the shallow water, and he's going, no, if the boat pulls you, and he goes like this, and Danny looks at us, and he goes...

01:39:28.000 Oh no!

01:39:29.000 And we're laughing!

01:39:29.000 And he's doing it in front of everybody!

01:39:31.000 Yes!

01:39:32.000 And we're laughing and laughing!

01:39:35.000 Now, did he actually molest anyone other than these inappropriate touches?

01:39:38.000 No, he molested people.

01:39:39.000 Oh boy.

01:39:40.000 He had to leave the church and all that stuff.

01:39:42.000 Did he leave the church or did he just move him?

01:39:44.000 No, just moved him.

01:39:45.000 He went to Arizona for a sabbatical.

01:39:47.000 Yeah.

01:39:48.000 Yeah, he needs our prayers.

01:39:49.000 They sent out a note, like a letter to everybody's house.

01:39:52.000 If you gave money, they'd give you a letter.

01:39:55.000 Was it Hear No Evil, the documentary, where there was one priest that Benedict, who became the Pope, moved, who went on to molest a hundred deaf kids?

01:40:06.000 Oh, no.

01:40:07.000 Oh, no. 1.00

01:40:08.000 Yeah, horrific, horrific shit. 1.00

01:40:11.000 That... 1.00

01:40:13.000 The process of moving people was always terrifying because they basically let them know, hey, you're not even going to be punished for this.

01:40:21.000 We're just going to move you.

01:40:22.000 Just going to move you.

01:40:22.000 Yeah.

01:40:23.000 That's all we do.

01:40:24.000 Yeah.

01:40:25.000 I know.

01:40:25.000 I don't understand.

01:40:27.000 Terrifying.

01:40:28.000 Terrifying stuff.

01:40:29.000 Yeah, why doesn't the FBI infiltrate the Catholic Church? 0.91

01:40:32.000 Yeah.

01:40:32.000 I did a joke about it on stage a while back.

01:40:34.000 I was like, imagine if that many NASCAR drivers were fucking kids. 0.99

01:40:39.000 How quick would they shut down NASCAR? If NASCAR pulled into town and just fucked all the kids and drove around in a circle real quick... 1.00

01:40:45.000 They'd be like, we gotta shut this down. 1.00

01:40:47.000 This is a crazy organization. 0.98

01:40:48.000 But meanwhile, way more people are getting molested by the Catholic Church. 0.99

01:40:52.000 I couldn't agree more.

01:40:53.000 It's a terrifying number when you look at the numbers of people that have just accused them of sexual assault and molestation.

01:40:59.000 It's terrifying.

01:41:00.000 Yeah, it's terrifying.

01:41:02.000 And all the money they take that you give them on Sunday to go pay these people off is also...

01:41:05.000 Yeah, I feel very fortunate that I ducked that.

01:41:08.000 I got lucky.

01:41:09.000 I was out of Catholic school.

01:41:10.000 Oh, you went to Catholic school?

01:41:11.000 Yeah, for one year only, but first grade.

01:41:14.000 I was gone after first grade.

01:41:16.000 I had friends that stayed, and I knew people that got touched.

01:41:22.000 For people who are outside the Catholic faith, there's something that happened, and it probably happened when they told them they couldn't get married anymore.

01:41:31.000 Because it used to be the Pope could get married, the Pope was allowed to have children, and the priests were allowed to be married, and priests were allowed to have children, but they were rock stars. 0.98

01:41:41.000 You have to realize, like back in the Lutheran days, the days of Martin Luther, those guys were fucking everybody. 0.98

01:41:47.000 They would get at you in that confession. 0.98

01:41:50.000 You know, in the confession booth, tell me what you did, Dolores. 1.00

01:41:53.000 And Dolores is out there just sucking dicks all day. 1.00

01:41:56.000 Show me how you sucked at Dolores. 1.00

01:41:57.000 I mean, they were banging everybody. 0.98

01:41:59.000 And then they came up with some sort of a reason why they should have to be celibate.

01:42:04.000 And from then on...

01:42:06.000 Well, so here's what I heard of what happened.

01:42:09.000 So there was two ways to become nobility in the medieval times.

01:42:12.000 You could be born noble, or you could buy your way into the church.

01:42:17.000 And so you could become nobility. 1.00

01:42:19.000 And so what would happen is these rich motherfuckers who would buy their way into the church would die, and then all their money would go to their kid, their firstborn. 1.00

01:42:25.000 And the church is like, we gotta get our hands on that money. 1.00

01:42:28.000 And so they passed the law.

01:42:30.000 Hey, nobody can get married legally.

01:42:31.000 They all did. 0.99

01:42:32.000 They still had kids and shit, and they still had mistresses and whatever. 0.99

01:42:35.000 But when they died, all their money and property went to the church. 0.99

01:42:38.000 That makes sense.

01:42:39.000 And so, of course, it's all about money.

01:42:40.000 So that's the story I heard.

01:42:41.000 If anybody heard different, let me know.

01:42:43.000 I believe it's both. 0.99

01:42:44.000 I bet it had something to do with sex as well and preventing those guys from fucking everybody. 0.98

01:42:49.000 You know, because they were rock stars. 0.98

01:42:50.000 There was no rock stars back then.

01:42:52.000 So the guys that were the spokespersons for God would most likely be the ones who had the most influence in the community.

01:42:58.000 I mean, there was a kid that we went to school with who was clearly gay and a nice guy.

01:43:04.000 And he was going to become a priest when we were all in high school together.

01:43:08.000 So as we were riding the bus going to high school, he was a couple years ahead of me, and he was leaving school, and he was already on his way.

01:43:17.000 What is it, divinity school or seminary school?

01:43:19.000 Seminary, I think.

01:43:20.000 Yeah, he was on his way. 0.91

01:43:21.000 And we were all like, we were all calling him father already, and it was just ridiculous.

01:43:26.000 We were all accepting the fact this guy was going to be a priest. 0.99

01:43:28.000 But, you know, for him, he was so obviously gay that, you know, I mean, I didn't give a shit, but I knew, you could tell... 1.00

01:43:38.000 He's gay. 0.99

01:43:39.000 He's a gay guy. 0.55

01:43:40.000 He never had any interest in girls, never was around them, kind of just an oddly feminine man, and decided to take up the priesthood. 0.76

01:43:50.000 And we all treated him like he was different because he was going to become a priest.

01:43:54.000 It was very weird.

01:43:56.000 Yeah, you know, priests are still treated like rock stars in the Catholic Church today.

01:43:59.000 Yeah, and he was, meanwhile, just another 16-year-old kid, just like us, you know?

01:44:05.000 Maybe he was 17 at the time, and I think I was 15. But it was just, he wasn't any different than us, but we were calling him Father and stuff, and it was just so strange.

01:44:13.000 I had two uncles that went to seminary.

01:44:16.000 One of them became a priest.

01:44:18.000 And the other one, over the summer, had a friend who got pregnant and he had to drop out of the seminary.

01:44:26.000 Wow.

01:44:26.000 But when you went to my grandmother's house, as you walked up the steps into their living room, the two pictures she would have greeting you was a picture of both her sons in their priest outfit.

01:44:36.000 So one was actually a priest and one had to go.

01:44:38.000 But that's the picture she kept up.

01:44:41.000 The guy's bringing over his four kids to her house.

01:44:43.000 There's the picture of him.

01:44:44.000 Daddy, why are you in the priest outfit?

01:44:45.000 Yeah.

01:44:47.000 One point in time.

01:44:49.000 So yeah, are you still religious?

01:44:52.000 You still go to church?

01:44:53.000 No.

01:44:53.000 Okay.

01:44:53.000 No.

01:44:54.000 I go to Baptist church in Pasadena because my mother-in-law goes and she asked me to go.

01:45:01.000 Oh, it's probably fun to go.

01:45:03.000 And I said, okay, I'll go.

01:45:04.000 I'm being protested by the Westboro Baptist Church tomorrow.

01:45:06.000 Are you?

01:45:07.000 Yes.

01:45:07.000 Where?

01:45:08.000 In Kansas City.

01:45:09.000 I'm very excited.

01:45:10.000 Oh.

01:45:10.000 Oh, I've always wanted to be protested.

01:45:12.000 Very excited.

01:45:13.000 Good for you.

01:45:13.000 They put out a press release, and they even responded to my...

01:45:17.000 I put out a post, and they had a tweet.

01:45:19.000 Someone who has no idea what God wants is speaking for God.

01:45:23.000 Ah!

01:45:23.000 Because I said that if God...

01:45:25.000 They said I was an atheist, which I'm really not.

01:45:29.000 I mean, I don't consider myself anything.

01:45:31.000 I don't consider myself religious.

01:45:33.000 I'm not an atheist.

01:45:35.000 I'm just a person who doesn't know.

01:45:37.000 That's called an agnostic, I think, right?

01:45:39.000 I'm more agnostic than anything, but I don't even want to put a label on it.

01:45:42.000 Why should I have to be on someone's camp?

01:45:45.000 You know, my opinions are allowed to evolve, and I'm allowed to, and I've done a lot of drugs. 0.98

01:45:50.000 I've seen some shit that I can't explain, you know? 0.99

01:45:53.000 And psychedelics, man, they'll get you, whatever confidence you have that there's no God, you go through a DMT trip, and you come out on the other end, you're like, okay, maybe I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. 0.99

01:46:03.000 Maybe I don't know anything. 0.82

01:46:04.000 And that's, I'm in the maybe-I-don't-know-anything camp.

01:46:08.000 So I said that if there was a God, I don't know if there's a God, but if there was a God, he or she would probably be very disappointed. 1.00

01:46:14.000 These hateful twats pretending they speak for him, putting up signs that say God hates fags. 0.99

01:46:19.000 Like, you really think this is what God would want? 1.00

01:46:21.000 That's outrageous.

01:46:22.000 And so that's what they're upset about?

01:46:24.000 Yeah, they're upset that I speak for God.

01:46:25.000 Oh, but they can speak for God. 1.00

01:46:27.000 Yeah, they say God hates fags. 0.99

01:46:28.000 I don't see that written anywhere. 0.99

01:46:30.000 Look through the Bible. 0.99

01:46:31.000 It never says God hates fags. 0.99

01:46:32.000 That's their website. 0.99

01:46:33.000 It's godheatsfags.com.

01:46:35.000 Just stop and think about that.

01:46:37.000 I think they should take their Facebook page away.

01:46:39.000 Do they have a YouTube channel?

01:46:40.000 I don't know.

01:46:41.000 Does Westboro Baptist Church have a YouTube channel?

01:46:45.000 But don't you...

01:46:46.000 Hate speech.

01:46:47.000 Yeah.

01:46:48.000 Don't you think we're living in a weird era of people wanting to just discredit people, just get rid of them?

01:46:57.000 Yes.

01:46:58.000 Cancel.

01:46:58.000 You don't believe this one thing that the establishment says you have to...

01:47:01.000 There's only one narrative on this Syrian war, and if you go away from it, you're a bad person, and you're an apologist for Assad, and you're a Putin puppet and all... 1.00

01:47:11.000 It's like, what the fuck? 0.96

01:47:12.000 No, I just have a different view on the war, and it's based on facts and evidence, and I don't know if you know, but those people you're trusting now were the ones who continuously lied to us. 0.99

01:47:21.000 So I've never lied to you about a war.

01:47:24.000 You're upset because I'm skeptical of the people who constantly lie about war.

01:47:29.000 And so that's just a weird thing, and it's like this...

01:47:31.000 But I guess it's probably always been this way, Joe.

01:47:33.000 I don't know.

01:47:33.000 Just now that I've experienced it because I'm in the public talking about this stuff, and it's just weird how people are so quick to go along with the establishment.

01:47:41.000 Look at how the lefties are defending the intelligence community, wishing Robert Mueller a fucking happy birthday on Twitter like a bunch of idiots. 1.00

01:47:48.000 It's so ridiculous. 1.00

01:47:50.000 It's like, do you guys have any sense of history? 0.95

01:47:52.000 Do you have any sense of recent history?

01:47:54.000 No!

01:47:55.000 It shows you how the hatred of someone could make people's lizard brains excited, and then rational thinking goes out the...

01:48:03.000 So I love...

01:48:04.000 Ron Placone on my show says, I hate Trump as much as anybody, but I'm not going to let him steal my critical thinking skills.

01:48:10.000 And so that's the same.

01:48:11.000 And so the thing that I like about You know, what our show does, we're very consistent.

01:48:15.000 I don't have one set of rules for people I like and another set of rules for people I oppose.

01:48:21.000 And I really, really appreciate that about you.

01:48:23.000 And that's one of the things that I said about you the first time we came on, is that you shoot straight no matter whether it's right or left.

01:48:28.000 Whatever you see, you call it like you see it.

01:48:30.000 There's no partisan politics.

01:48:31.000 And I think that's very important.

01:48:33.000 And it's so rare.

01:48:34.000 It doesn't exist anymore.

01:48:35.000 You know, I was...

01:48:37.000 I was listening to Sam Harris' podcast recently where his guest made a really important point saying that we're at this strange time in history where the news is different depending on what channel you watch.

01:48:51.000 It used to be you had different people telling you the news.

01:48:54.000 Now you have different news.

01:48:57.000 Totally different news.

01:48:58.000 Totally different news.

01:48:59.000 Yes, isn't that something?

01:48:59.000 And it's completely partisan.

01:49:01.000 It's 100% left or 100% right.

01:49:04.000 And you're either all in with us.

01:49:05.000 And I feel like what we're talking about here and what you're describing is idea sports.

01:49:10.000 Like this needing to shut people down.

01:49:13.000 They want to get a result.

01:49:14.000 They want to win the game.

01:49:15.000 You know, like right now, they just slam dunked on Alex Jones.

01:49:17.000 And they're high-fiving all around the coffee shop. 0.98

01:49:20.000 All the baristas are fucking psyched. 1.00

01:49:22.000 You know, they're really excited. 0.99

01:49:23.000 They're making espresso.

01:49:24.000 Yeah, we shut them down. 1.00

01:49:25.000 We fucking shut him down. 0.99

01:49:26.000 We're gonna put on our masks and our bike locks. 1.00

01:49:29.000 We're gonna whack Trump supporters in the head tonight. 0.99

01:49:32.000 Like, this is... 0.99

01:49:33.000 It's a strange time for ideas.

01:49:36.000 You can't even objectively assess the merits of an idea because the ideas have already been clearly delineated.

01:49:47.000 These are the acceptable ideas.

01:49:49.000 This is the acceptable parameters of this conversation.

01:49:51.000 These are the acceptable ideas.

01:49:53.000 And if you go over them, you are persona non grata.

01:49:57.000 Yeah, that's it.

01:49:58.000 It's real. 0.94

01:49:59.000 And meanwhile, you turn on NBC, it's just littered with liars. 0.94

01:50:03.000 And so is Fox. 0.95

01:50:05.000 Of course.

01:50:05.000 You know what I love?

01:50:06.000 Shepard Smith.

01:50:07.000 Shep Smith.

01:50:08.000 He's a fascinating character.

01:50:10.000 What he's doing over there is going against everything.

01:50:15.000 You ever seen what Sean Hannity says versus Shepard Smith?

01:50:20.000 Yeah, I've seen those videos. 0.98

01:50:22.000 Fucking hilarious. 0.96

01:50:23.000 It is pretty funny. 0.98

01:50:24.000 And he's right.

01:50:25.000 And he's not just right, he's right constitutionally.

01:50:28.000 Like, what he's saying when he's describing what Sean Hannity said versus the reality, he's right.

01:50:34.000 He's right in terms of what is a law.

01:50:37.000 He's right in terms of whether or not something is legal or whether or not it's unethical.

01:50:42.000 Yeah, and that's the thing about Shep Smith.

01:50:47.000 When he gets something wrong, I think he's just genuinely getting it wrong.

01:50:50.000 I don't think it's because he's trying to push it there.

01:50:52.000 He might be unconsciously corrupted, but not consciously.

01:50:56.000 How did he get over there?

01:50:57.000 How is he over there?

01:50:58.000 I don't know.

01:50:59.000 You tell me.

01:51:00.000 Do you remember when Hannity was on with Combs?

01:51:02.000 It was Hannity and Combs. 1.00

01:51:03.000 They took the weaseliest, weakest-looking liberal they could find, a guy who looks like he just sweats canola oil, and they put him on TV opposite like this.

01:51:15.000 Well, you know, right-wingers, you know how Sean met him?

01:51:18.000 Right-wingers used to hire Alan Combs to come perform at his parties, and he would just cower in the corner.

01:51:24.000 I'm kidding.

01:51:25.000 I'm kidding.

01:51:26.000 I feel bad making fun of him because he's not alive anymore.

01:51:29.000 He's not?

01:51:30.000 Alan Combs, I'm pretty sure he's dead.

01:51:32.000 Oh, when did he die?

01:51:33.000 Like a year ago or two years ago.

01:51:35.000 Can you Google that and see if he...

01:51:36.000 I'm pretty sure.

01:51:37.000 But Hannity and him split up. 0.95

01:51:38.000 The band broke up long before that.

01:51:40.000 Yeah.

01:51:40.000 Yeah, it's like Crosby, Stills, and Nash.

01:51:42.000 And Young.

01:51:42.000 Yeah, he passed away in February a lot.

01:51:43.000 Yeah.

01:51:44.000 February last year, so.

01:51:45.000 Yeah, he was this guy.

01:51:46.000 He was a very nice guy, though.

01:51:47.000 I'm sure he was a nice guy, but it was almost like he didn't get riled up on purpose to keep his job. 1.00

01:51:53.000 He got riled up enough to make liberals look like pushovers, and so the people at home in Kansas would be like, fah, stupid liberals. 1.00

01:52:00.000 Sean Hannity's my man. 1.00

01:52:01.000 Sean Hannity's a good American.

01:52:03.000 Yes.

01:52:04.000 You know, like Sean Hannity with his big fat white bread-eating face and that he was just the one who was telling the truth about the real problem and the Dems.

01:52:13.000 It's so fascinating to see that video with Shepard Smith just clearly and very cleanly dissecting everything that Hannity says.

01:52:25.000 Here it is right here.

01:52:26.000 Oh yeah, that's the video.

01:52:28.000 We can't play this though, right?

01:52:30.000 On YouTube?

01:52:32.000 Probably not.

01:52:33.000 There's no evidence to prove any of this is true after nearly 18 months.

01:52:38.000 The Russian investigation is the opposite of a hoax.

01:52:42.000 And now, indictments against Russian organizations and persons have been handed up.

01:52:48.000 It's hilarious.

01:52:49.000 Yeah, it goes on and on.

01:52:51.000 It's Fox News, Shep Smith shuts down Sean Hannity's lies and propaganda.

01:52:56.000 How is Shep Smith still at Fox News?

01:52:59.000 How's that work?

01:53:00.000 You tell me.

01:53:01.000 It's interesting, right?

01:53:03.000 Yeah, it is.

01:53:03.000 Doesn't Sean Hannity's eyes look like he's...

01:53:06.000 Drugged up.

01:53:06.000 Yeah.

01:53:07.000 He looks like something's wrong.

01:53:10.000 Who's their chief anchor?

01:53:11.000 Shepard Smith.

01:53:13.000 Yeah.

01:53:13.000 But let me tell you about what Sean Hannity has been doing is that woman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez from New York who beat Joe Crowley and she's the big democratic socialist and everybody's got their bushing a knot over it because oh my god she's the corporate Democrats hate her the right wing she freaks out right because he's actually going to help people and Sean Hannity's been like reading out like look what she likes she wants to have us Medicare for all She wants to have free college.

01:53:40.000 She wants a living wage. 1.00

01:53:41.000 She wants to end the war. 1.00

01:53:43.000 And people, I'm sure, almost half his audience are like, that sounds looking pretty good.

01:53:47.000 I don't know if you know, Sean, things are tough out here in the heartland.

01:53:50.000 Is that possible to do all those things? 0.99

01:53:51.000 I don't have to worry about medical bills for my fucking kids anymore. 0.99

01:53:54.000 Shouldn't we try for that? 1.00

01:53:55.000 I don't have to worry about sending my kids to college.

01:53:56.000 It's awesome.

01:53:57.000 Because you have endless money for these wars.

01:53:59.000 I'm sure you have some money for us, right?

01:54:01.000 Isn't college subsidized?

01:54:03.000 Why is it so expensive?

01:54:04.000 Why is it so expensive?

01:54:05.000 So it's actually backfiring.

01:54:06.000 In fact, there was a poll that Fox and Friends and Friends and Friends put out that said...

01:54:11.000 Fox and Super Friends?

01:54:13.000 Super Friends.

01:54:14.000 And it said, do you think the $32.6 trillion for Bernie Sanders' Medicare for All plan is worth it?

01:54:19.000 Of course, they left out the other part, which turns out it saves $2-point-something trillion, right?

01:54:24.000 Right.

01:54:24.000 That's the part they leave out.

01:54:25.000 So they're gaslighting their own viewers, just like all news organizations lie to their own viewers.

01:54:29.000 So that poll went up, and 73% of the Fox& Friends and Friends and Friends viewers said they want Bernie Sanders' Medicare for All.

01:54:38.000 73%, and 30,000 people voted in that poll, so that's not just nothing.

01:54:42.000 So now they think that's scary.

01:54:47.000 Socialism doesn't scare people anymore, because now there's the internet.

01:54:50.000 People can go, look what it's like to live in Denmark.

01:54:52.000 The way you say it, though, it's like, do you say, do you support communism?

01:54:56.000 Do you support socialism?

01:54:57.000 Then people say, no.

01:54:58.000 I don't support communism.

01:54:59.000 Do you support Medicare?

01:55:01.000 Yeah.

01:55:01.000 Do you support Social Security?

01:55:02.000 Of course.

01:55:02.000 Do you support public education?

01:55:04.000 Yes.

01:55:04.000 Okay.

01:55:05.000 Are you for public roads?

01:55:06.000 Are you for the post office?

01:55:07.000 Are you for the fire department?

01:55:09.000 Yes, yes.

01:55:10.000 This is all socialism.

01:55:11.000 Yeah, it is.

01:55:11.000 You like libraries?

01:55:13.000 You're like, yes, it's all socialism.

01:55:14.000 Yeah.

01:55:15.000 There's good aspects to it.

01:55:17.000 Particularly, like, free healthcare. 0.99

01:55:19.000 Who the fuck wants someone that you love to be shit out of luck where they can't go to a doctor because they can't afford it, and what if they die? 0.99

01:55:25.000 Come on. 0.99

01:55:26.000 So when I went to Norway, my friend Steve-O went to Norway, too, and something that he noticed...

01:55:31.000 Hot Norwegian broads. 0.91

01:55:33.000 Oh, did we ever.

01:55:35.000 Anyway...

01:55:36.000 And guys, too!

01:55:38.000 And the guys.

01:55:39.000 Don't leave out the guys.

01:55:40.000 Oh, the fellas. 0.99

01:55:41.000 I gotta tell you, they do wear comically tight pants.

01:55:44.000 The guys do?

01:55:44.000 In Europe.

01:55:45.000 It's like, you know, my wife says, it's like, you know those, she goes up to, the fashion designers are fucking with you. 0.99

01:55:51.000 You know that, right? 0.98

01:55:52.000 It's like, oh, I always wanted to know what your keys look like shrink-wrapped.

01:55:55.000 That's fantastic. 1.00

01:55:57.000 What the fuck? 1.00

01:55:58.000 How many comics you see on stage, you can see what their fucking phone make is and their key. 1.00

01:56:03.000 Oh, you drive a BMW. That's nice. 0.99

01:56:04.000 It's like, what the fuck? 1.00

01:56:06.000 You want to make sure they can't run away quick. 1.00

01:56:07.000 Yeah.

01:56:08.000 You want to have their legs bound up. 0.87

01:56:09.000 Skinny jeans.

01:56:10.000 Anyway, but over there, when they talk about healthcare, we go, oh, do you like free healthcare?

01:56:15.000 They go, we don't call it free healthcare.

01:56:17.000 We call it included.

01:56:19.000 Because it's included in your taxes.

01:56:21.000 That makes sense.

01:56:22.000 Just like your public education here.

01:56:23.000 Just like your streets and roads here.

01:56:25.000 Fire department.

01:56:26.000 Fire department.

01:56:26.000 It's included.

01:56:28.000 You don't go, you get free police, you get free fire department.

01:56:30.000 No, it's included in your taxes.

01:56:32.000 Road maintenance.

01:56:33.000 And so that's the funny thing that Sean Hannity in the right wing, they think they can scare people by saying, look at all the stuff they're off.

01:56:39.000 No.

01:56:40.000 If the Democrats would have been off, Hillary Clinton would have been offering people something, maybe half the country who didn't vote would have came out and voted for her. 1.00

01:56:47.000 So that's the thing. 0.98

01:56:48.000 Democrats have nothing to offer people, which is why they're a shitshow on a failed party, and they're wiped out at every level of government. 0.96

01:56:56.000 And so if they take over, like in the Congress, there's a chance they might. 0.98

01:57:01.000 It's just, again, they're the ones doing the bidding for Trump.

01:57:04.000 They just handed him more money for defense than he even asked for.

01:57:08.000 So if Trump—here's the thing.

01:57:09.000 Here's the funny thing. 0.98

01:57:10.000 If Trump is a maniac, they like to say he's unhinged, he's a maniac, and he shouldn't have his finger on the button— Let's give him 80 billion more dollars for bombs. 0.97

01:57:18.000 Those two things are incongruent. 0.98

01:57:20.000 Those don't go together.

01:57:21.000 So you're bullshitting me on one end or another.

01:57:23.000 Do you think he's gonna get through this without going to jail?

01:57:28.000 Yes.

01:57:29.000 Do you think his son's going to go to jail? 1.00

01:57:30.000 You know, I'm not good at predicting things, but they should all go to jail because they're probably all corrupt doing corrupt shit. 0.99

01:57:36.000 But if you put a special prosecutor on anybody, they'll find crimes on anybody. 0.99

01:57:42.000 You know, the shit they're prosecuting Manafort for doesn't have anything to do with the election or Trump's campaign. 0.99

01:57:47.000 It's all shit before the Trump's campaign when he was in collusion with Trump. 0.99

01:57:50.000 Tony Podesta, from the Podesta Group. 0.99

01:57:52.000 He was funneling money from fucking Ukraine, and they were giving it through the Podesta Foundation. 0.98

01:57:59.000 Is that what he's getting charged for? 1.00

01:58:01.000 He's getting charged for shit that happened before he ever even worked for Trump. 0.99

01:58:04.000 So that's the part they don't tell you. 0.99

01:58:06.000 They go, metaphor, charge.

01:58:07.000 But then in the 80th paragraph, they go, this has nothing to do with the election.

01:58:10.000 Every article's like that. 0.98

01:58:12.000 So it's just a matter of them deciding to put a microscope up your ass and find things you did wrong. 1.00

01:58:17.000 They put a microscope up Bill Clinton's ass about some land deal in Arkansas and it ended up going to a blowjob in the Oval Office. 1.00

01:58:25.000 And he got impeached for it. 0.99

01:58:26.000 So they got rid of this special prosecutor after that because they realized that you'll find crimes on anybody if you put a special prosecutor on them.

01:58:33.000 And now they bring it back for Trump. 0.99

01:58:35.000 They're not prosecuting literal fucking war criminals. 0.99

01:58:38.000 Joe, literal, we know there were criminals. 0.99

01:58:41.000 There was a thing called the torture program.

01:58:43.000 We know that it was a real thing.

01:58:45.000 No one goes to jail.

01:58:46.000 Nobody's prosecuted.

01:58:48.000 But goddammit, they got a special prosecutor for Trump. 0.99

01:58:50.000 Not that they shouldn't, but we all know if you put a special prosecutor on anybody in Washington, they're going to find a lot of fucking crimes. 0.99

01:58:57.000 Yeah, they know what they're doing. 0.99

01:58:58.000 It's all the same game.

01:58:59.000 And this thing about not registering as foreign agents, they all play the same game.

01:59:02.000 They don't register as foreign agents until they get caught, and then the government allows them to go backtrack and re-register.

01:59:08.000 But they're not doing that at Dundahl.

01:59:09.000 Oh, we're not going to let Bamada for it.

01:59:11.000 He made a mistake.

01:59:12.000 So again, there's ways to oppose Trump.

01:59:16.000 And the Russia thing isn't it.

01:59:17.000 The way to oppose Trump is you offer people something else.

01:59:20.000 He ran to the left of Hillary Clinton on foreign policy.

01:59:23.000 He wanted to end our foreign wars, according to his rhetoric in his campaign.

01:59:26.000 He wanted to give everybody health care.

01:59:28.000 Remember?

01:59:28.000 Everyone's going to get health care and it's going to be cheaper.

01:59:30.000 That was his plan.

01:59:31.000 Of course, he's doing the exact opposite.

01:59:33.000 Yeah.

01:59:34.000 But who does the thing they say they're going to do?

01:59:37.000 Whoever.

01:59:38.000 Whoever does the thing...

01:59:39.000 Who's ever done it?

01:59:40.000 No one.

01:59:41.000 Nobody.

01:59:42.000 That's why democracy is not based on trust.

01:59:45.000 It's based on mistrust.

01:59:46.000 It's based on transparency.

01:59:48.000 You remember that bit that Bill Hicks used to do?

01:59:52.000 Something along the lines of, I think that when you get elected, they bring you into a smoky room filled with globalists, and they show you an angle of the Kennedy assassination that you've never seen before.

02:00:03.000 They roll it.

02:00:04.000 They go, any questions?

02:00:06.000 What's my agenda?

02:00:09.000 But it almost seems like that's what happens.

02:00:11.000 Obama?

02:00:12.000 Obama changed his tune. 0.98

02:00:14.000 Remember on the Hope and Change website that it had all that shit about whistleblowers being afforded protection? 0.96

02:00:19.000 That was all gone the day he got elected. 0.81

02:00:21.000 Well, it took a while for him to be in office before they realized that was still in there and then deleted it all.

02:00:29.000 He disbanded his own followers, right?

02:00:31.000 So when he got elected, Barack Obama, he had all these young people who were activated, and they signed up.

02:00:35.000 He had a mailing list.

02:00:36.000 He had all their names. 1.00

02:00:37.000 And we want to go do shit for you. 0.99

02:00:38.000 We want to go be active. 1.00

02:00:39.000 And they were like, get rid of them.

02:00:41.000 And he did.

02:00:41.000 He got rid of them because you can't control them.

02:00:44.000 Yes, they fucked them. 1.00

02:00:46.000 And then Bernie Sanders has his campaign and says, everybody, we got to fight this fucking evil machine. 1.00

02:00:51.000 And then on a dime, he goes, hey, by the way, let's join this evil machine. 0.99

02:00:55.000 What do you think happens?

02:00:57.000 I don't know.

02:00:58.000 You know, I really don't know.

02:00:59.000 I'm not good at that.

02:01:00.000 I know what people have said.

02:01:01.000 Chris Hedges said that Bernie Sanders didn't want to end up like Ralph Nader, who was unfairly held accountable again for the Democrats. 0.99

02:01:07.000 The Democrats lost to fucking a game show host, okay? 0.97

02:01:11.000 And that's what this is all about. 0.99

02:01:13.000 They can't come to terms with this.

02:01:14.000 And they don't want us to examine the system that gave us Trump, and they don't want to examine how they could have... 1.00

02:01:19.000 The most qualified person couldn't even beat fucking Donald Trump! 1.00

02:01:22.000 That's how qualified you were, you son of a bitch! 1.00

02:01:25.000 Well, they wanted Trump to win because they thought he'd be the easiest guy to beat in the election. 1.00

02:01:29.000 So isn't it funny that nobody gets mad at them?

02:01:32.000 Nobody's upset at Chris Hayes for having empty podiums of Trump for a whole show, which I saw, and then he wags his finger at Susan Sarandon. 1.00

02:01:39.000 You're the son of a bitch who propped Trump up, and you didn't cover Bernie Sanders because you were fucking told not to, and we know that for a fact because of Ed Schultz, and now you're gonna pretend like you're a sanctimonious fucking prick? 1.00

02:01:51.000 And you're gonna wag your finger at people with no money and no power? 1.00

02:01:53.000 Meanwhile, you have the biggest microphone of anybody? 0.99

02:01:56.000 And you fucking prop Donald Trump up? 0.99

02:01:58.000 And you don't take responsibility? 1.00

02:01:59.000 That's why he's a piece of shit. 1.00

02:02:01.000 Look at you. 1.00

02:02:01.000 He's got a kidney. 1.00

02:02:02.000 Very excited.

02:02:03.000 Very excited.

02:02:04.000 That's why.

02:02:05.000 He's doing their bidding right now.

02:02:06.000 All those people are doing their bidding. 1.00

02:02:07.000 Because Ed Schultz revealed, and Phil Donahue, if you tell the truth, they will fucking fire your ass. 1.00

02:02:13.000 They've got guys like Ellie Vesci and Rachel Maddow pretending they don't know how net neutrality works. 1.00

02:02:19.000 I don't know.

02:02:20.000 Is it good?

02:02:20.000 It's a big thing.

02:02:21.000 I know it's important, but I don't know which way.

02:02:23.000 We'll see how it rolls out.

02:02:24.000 I don't know.

02:02:27.000 That's what tools.

02:02:28.000 Hey, I'm not saying I wouldn't do it, too.

02:02:30.000 I'm just not being offered 30 grand a day to sell my soul.

02:02:32.000 I would.

02:02:33.000 It seems confusing to me that they're thinking about using Hillary again.

02:02:39.000 Because it seems to me that she's starting to make her way back into news cycles and giving speeches.

02:02:44.000 She has a PAC that's supposed to be supporting women who are running for office, except not Cynthia Nixon. 0.99

02:02:50.000 She's gonna prop up the most corrupt motherfucker New York has had for a long time. 1.00

02:02:54.000 It was supposed to be about just women? 1.00

02:02:56.000 It was gender-based?

02:02:57.000 That's what she says.

02:02:58.000 Why is it gender-based?

02:02:59.000 She said she was starting a pact to help encourage women to run.

02:03:01.000 I read that in an interview with her.

02:03:03.000 And I'm like, really?

02:03:04.000 Why isn't that pact then supporting Cynthia Nixon? 0.99

02:03:06.000 Why are you supporting, you know, what the fuck? 1.00

02:03:08.000 Of course, it's all bullshit. 1.00

02:03:09.000 What did Cynthia Nixon run under? 1.00

02:03:10.000 Was she independent?

02:03:11.000 She's running a Democrat. 0.87

02:03:13.000 And she's running against Cuomo.

02:03:17.000 Is she running for mayor? 0.98

02:03:18.000 No, governor.

02:03:19.000 Governor?

02:03:19.000 She's running for governor in New York?

02:03:21.000 I knew she was running for something.

02:03:23.000 I didn't know it was that big. 0.90

02:03:24.000 And you know, Cuomo's just one of the most corrupt...

02:03:26.000 Again, we have a one-party rule.

02:03:29.000 We have corporate rule.

02:03:30.000 And all these people are in bed with the corporations because they're bought, because that's the way our elections work. 0.97

02:03:35.000 And that's why Hillary Clinton has a private position and a public position. 1.00

02:03:39.000 And I'm not saying she's the only one, but she's the one that we know actually literally said that because of WikiLeaks, thank God.

02:03:45.000 And again, I'll go back to Julian Assange. 0.88

02:03:47.000 The fact that none of the reporters in the United States are sticking up for Julian Assange shows you that what they do is fucking wrestling, and they don't do real journalism. 0.97

02:03:55.000 Wrestling. 0.96

02:03:56.000 And what's really interesting about the Julian Assange thing is if you ask people what he did, because of reductionist thinking, because they've allowed this narrative to play forth, they'll say he's accused of sexual assault. 0.74

02:04:09.000 And when you find out the actual facts of it, he had sex with a woman, consensual sex, and in the middle of the night he stuck it in without a condom. 0.74

02:04:17.000 And they were calling it surprise sex, right? 0.88

02:04:21.000 I don't know.

02:04:21.000 But there's no, I mean, it didn't make any sense.

02:04:23.000 And why are you extraditing him to the United States for surprise sex that he had in, where was it, Norway or somewhere?

02:04:29.000 Of course they want to kind of come at you. 0.99

02:04:31.000 Of course, if the CIA wants to get you the first thing to do, oh, I bet you he's a rapist. 0.99

02:04:36.000 Let's get some people. 0.93

02:04:37.000 And that whole prosecutor who tries to prosecute it was discredited for doing so.

02:04:41.000 They were apologized to Julian Assange, the UN! Yeah.

02:04:45.000 And the woman, too.

02:04:45.000 Has stood up for Julian Assange and the woman.

02:04:48.000 Yeah.

02:04:49.000 But meanwhile, they still have him holed up in the Ecuador embassy.

02:04:53.000 What is he going to do?

02:04:54.000 They want to kick him out, right?

02:04:55.000 Well, the ACLU is, I think, supporting him in the United States.

02:04:58.000 And certain people of character are, I think, supporting him.

02:05:03.000 I guess not him, but the idea of...

02:05:07.000 Journalistic integrity, freedom of speech, the right to publish.

02:05:09.000 If you watch that movie, The Post, which was all about Daniel Ellsberg and the Pentagon Papers, which exposed that four administrations were lying to us about the Vietnam War.

02:05:20.000 Not a Republican, not a Democrat. 0.96

02:05:22.000 They're all, again, the same fucking two wings of the same party, two right wings. 0.99

02:05:25.000 It's the military-industrial party. 0.99

02:05:27.000 And the hero of that movie is the woman who was the head of the Washington Post, not Daniel Ellsberg. 0.99

02:05:32.000 He was the real fucking hero. 0.93

02:05:33.000 But how can you make that movie in this day and age and not mention Chelsea Manning, not mention Edward Snowden, and not go, you know, the Daniel Ellsbergs of today, we imprison them. 0.99

02:05:43.000 And that's what we're doing.

02:05:44.000 We imprison the Daniel Ellsbergs of today.

02:05:46.000 And I watch panels of the actors from that movie and the director and sit around and talk. 1.00

02:05:51.000 Nobody ever brings that shit up. 0.99

02:05:52.000 It's un-fucking-believable to me that they don't understand that they're just... 0.99

02:05:56.000 That's propaganda. 0.93

02:05:58.000 Look how good our Washington Post is. 0.99

02:06:00.000 Washington Post went on to lead us into every fucking war after that movie was supposedly made, right? 0.99

02:06:05.000 So after they did that and they printed that, they backed every goddamn war since. 0.99

02:06:10.000 They're the ones who told us that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction and it was irrefutable. 0.98

02:06:15.000 That was the headline on their editorial page.

02:06:18.000 It wasn't some op-ed.

02:06:19.000 It was their editorial board said irrefutable.

02:06:22.000 Now, isn't that fake news?

02:06:23.000 Should they have their Facebook page taken down? 0.99

02:06:25.000 That actually led to the fucking death of millions of people. 0.98

02:06:29.000 So this is why I have a show. 0.99

02:06:32.000 This is what I'm talking about. 0.92

02:06:33.000 And thank God, in a sense, thank God the media sucks so bad because now I get to do their job. 1.00

02:06:38.000 I'm a fucking idiot. 1.00

02:06:40.000 I'm a C-student, jag-off, nightclub comedian, and I do my job better than they do. 1.00

02:06:44.000 Well, you don't have a boss.

02:06:47.000 That's the thing.

02:06:48.000 You're not beholden to anybody.

02:06:49.000 I was just offered a TV show, and I want to say by who.

02:06:54.000 Satan?

02:06:55.000 I was Satan, and I was offered anything I wanted.

02:06:58.000 Jimmy, you want to do five days in the morning?

02:07:00.000 You want to do one day a week?

02:07:01.000 You want to do this?

02:07:02.000 I'll give you your own studio, your own crew, the whole deal.

02:07:05.000 And I had to look at the guy and I said, you know, I've been waiting my whole career for someone to make me an offer like this and I just have to tell you no thanks.

02:07:10.000 Wow.

02:07:11.000 And he's like, what?

02:07:12.000 What do you want?

02:07:13.000 And I said, I don't want anything.

02:07:14.000 I already have everything I want.

02:07:16.000 And I go, I don't want to drive across town and go do a show in somebody else's studio.

02:07:20.000 I walk out my back door, I do my show in my garage. 0.99

02:07:22.000 I don't fucking need your money. 0.99

02:07:23.000 I don't need boss. 1.00

02:07:24.000 I don't need it.

02:07:25.000 I'm selling out theaters right now.

02:07:27.000 That's what I want to do.

02:07:28.000 I go, I want to spend less time in the studio and more time touring because that's fun.

02:07:32.000 Yeah.

02:07:32.000 Dude, it is unbelievable.

02:07:34.000 The best part of my life is right now.

02:07:36.000 It's unbelievable.

02:07:37.000 Isn't that funny?

02:07:37.000 I'm so glad I didn't kill myself eight years ago.

02:07:40.000 I was so close to killing myself.

02:07:43.000 I'm so glad I didn't.

02:07:44.000 And it was my hatred for people that kept me alive.

02:07:46.000 Amazing.

02:07:47.000 Because I didn't want people...

02:07:49.000 I already said this, I think, to you.

02:07:50.000 I didn't want people to go, aha, he didn't make it. 1.00

02:07:52.000 I was like, fuck you. 1.00

02:07:54.000 I am making it and then I'm going to kill myself. 1.00

02:07:56.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:07:59.000 Don't say that.

02:08:00.000 They'll use that as a, see?

02:08:01.000 See, he's not...

02:08:02.000 But he killed himself.

02:08:03.000 He didn't get suicided.

02:08:05.000 He didn't get silenced.

02:08:06.000 I didn't... 0.99

02:08:06.000 So I was just back in Chicago and I played a place called Thalia Hall, which is fucking... 0.99

02:08:11.000 That's where Brian Callen just did his new special. 0.96

02:08:14.000 Beautiful.

02:08:15.000 I have a video up from that show on my channel.

02:08:18.000 It was so...

02:08:19.000 I used to live...

02:08:19.000 When I started to be a comedian, I moved to that neighborhood.

02:08:21.000 It was...

02:08:22.000 Back then, it wasn't a nice neighborhood, right?

02:08:24.000 It was like a tougher neighborhood, but I got to live closer to the city, and all my comedian friends lived there because it was affordable. 0.95

02:08:29.000 And now it's being gentrified and shit, and they've got this new theater, and it's... 0.93

02:08:32.000 I mean, it's not new, but it's old, and they refurbished it. 0.97

02:08:34.000 And it's 600 people, and I came out, and it was just like...

02:08:38.000 It was just like heaven.

02:08:40.000 My whole career, I tried to figure out how to get people to stand up at the end of my set.

02:08:44.000 I don't want to do it in a shitty way.

02:08:46.000 I want to manipulate them, but I want to have it come from my heart and inspire people and make them want to stand up to get a standing ovation.

02:08:53.000 And now they stand up when I come out.

02:08:55.000 I don't have to worry about it.

02:08:57.000 It's already done.

02:08:58.000 So this is the greatest time of my life, and it's because nobody, you know, people can't get anywhere else what I'm doing.

02:09:06.000 There's just nothing else like it.

02:09:07.000 You know, Bill Maher, God bless his soul, you know, he's a corporatist, and he's part of the problem, right?

02:09:13.000 And I like Bill Maher.

02:09:15.000 I read his book that he wrote about Common.

02:09:17.000 I bet you didn't even know he had one.

02:09:18.000 It was really funny.

02:09:20.000 Oh, no, no, no, the novel.

02:09:22.000 I read that.

02:09:22.000 Yeah, I think it was called True Stories.

02:09:24.000 True Story, yeah.

02:09:25.000 I love that book.

02:09:26.000 That's a great book.

02:09:26.000 I read that book twice.

02:09:28.000 What was one guy's name, Shit? 1.00

02:09:29.000 Shit, Fuck, Chink, and something else. 1.00

02:09:31.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:09:31.000 Wow, he better be careful. 1.00

02:09:32.000 He better be careful, because that's not good.

02:09:34.000 We're going to find out about that book.

02:09:35.000 It's got an ethnic slur in one of the characters' names.

02:09:38.000 That's right.

02:09:38.000 That was from the 80s, wasn't it?

02:09:40.000 90s.

02:09:40.000 90s?

02:09:41.000 Yeah.

02:09:41.000 Because he wrote about how comedy, modern-day comedy, got started.

02:09:45.000 Yeah.

02:09:46.000 And how it was really interesting.

02:09:48.000 It's a good book. 0.95

02:09:48.000 About he would go on the road and he'd be the first comedian a club had ever seen and they didn't know he was, like the waitresses didn't know he was leaving the next week, shit like that. 0.95

02:09:56.000 Wow. 0.96

02:09:56.000 Like it didn't sink in how things worked. 0.96

02:09:58.000 It was such an interesting book to read.

02:10:00.000 Anyway, but now he brags that he gave a million dollars to Barack Obama, which is fantastic to you.

02:10:06.000 Did he really?

02:10:07.000 Yeah, on air.

02:10:08.000 So it's just like, I get it.

02:10:10.000 I aspire to be Bill Maher.

02:10:11.000 I aspire to be a millionaire for 30 years and a little bit out of a touch.

02:10:15.000 That's good for you.

02:10:15.000 You did it.

02:10:17.000 You did it.

02:10:19.000 Oh, God.

02:10:20.000 So anyway, but it's good.

02:10:21.000 You know, again, I get upset because I want him to be better or be more like I want him to be.

02:10:25.000 Yeah.

02:10:26.000 But it actually helps me, right?

02:10:27.000 So the more he shifts to the right, the more his audience comes to me, right?

02:10:32.000 And the more I get on stage...

02:10:33.000 All I have to do is mention his name on stage at a live show and people...

02:10:35.000 Boo him.

02:10:36.000 Really?

02:10:37.000 Yeah, progressives don't like him.

02:10:38.000 When did that happen?

02:10:40.000 When did that happen?

02:10:41.000 Bernie Sanders' campaign.

02:10:42.000 Really?

02:10:43.000 He doesn't get that there's a difference.

02:10:45.000 That there's a difference between Hillary and Bernie Sanders. 0.82

02:10:48.000 How could he not get it?

02:10:49.000 You tell me.

02:10:51.000 I play videos of him saying that, no, they were basically the same.

02:10:55.000 What's the big deal?

02:10:55.000 These progressives are just being babies.

02:10:58.000 Isn't it funny progressives are being babies when they won't support warmongering corporatists, but centrist corporatists are being adults when they fuck up They're over-progressives. 0.99

02:11:06.000 They don't ever accommodate them. 0.99

02:11:08.000 They don't ever drop their values and come over and be progressives.

02:11:11.000 We're always supposed to go that way.

02:11:12.000 They never go the other way. 0.99

02:11:14.000 Unity means, hey, you guys shut the fuck up and fall in line and become a corporatist. 0.99

02:11:18.000 That's what they mean when they say unity. 0.99

02:11:20.000 And it ain't happening.

02:11:21.000 And I'm telling you, Bernie Sanders is making a big mistake by not starting a third party right now.

02:11:25.000 That's how you influence.

02:11:26.000 If he does not win the Democratic nomination in 2020, what has he built over these four years? 0.99

02:11:31.000 Fucking nothing. 0.96

02:11:32.000 Do you think he's gonna run? 0.99

02:11:34.000 He's gonna run in 2020?

02:11:35.000 Yes!

02:11:36.000 That's what this is all about!

02:11:38.000 That's what this is all about.

02:11:39.000 I thought he had said he was done.

02:11:41.000 I thought he said he was gonna try again.

02:11:43.000 He's running again.

02:11:44.000 You think so?

02:11:45.000 I'll make that prediction.

02:11:46.000 Yeah?

02:11:46.000 I'll make that prediction.

02:11:47.000 I'll bet you a dollar.

02:11:48.000 I'll bet you two dollars.

02:11:49.000 Ooh! 0.96

02:11:50.000 Double down.

02:11:51.000 Okay.

02:11:51.000 Five bucks.

02:11:52.000 Okay, alright.

02:11:53.000 Ooh, we're on.

02:11:53.000 I'll go five bucks.

02:11:54.000 You can sell out Talia Hall.

02:11:55.000 You can afford five bucks.

02:11:57.000 Best time of my life.

02:11:58.000 I can't believe it.

02:11:58.000 I'm so happy for you.

02:12:00.000 I can't believe it.

02:12:01.000 That's amazing.

02:12:01.000 It's so nice.

02:12:02.000 And I have no representation right now, by the way.

02:12:03.000 Ooh, that's even better.

02:12:05.000 It's almost, yes.

02:12:06.000 That's even better.

02:12:07.000 You get all the cheddar.

02:12:08.000 I was working with this guy, Alex Murray, who's a great guy.

02:12:11.000 I love Alex Murray.

02:12:12.000 And he got me specials.

02:12:13.000 He got me Comedy Central specials, a Hulu specials.

02:12:15.000 He sold a book for me. 0.99

02:12:16.000 Fucking great guy. 0.99

02:12:18.000 I love Alex Murray, but he got real busy, right? 0.99

02:12:20.000 He represents a bunch of really...

02:12:22.000 Chris Hardwick, and he had like...

02:12:24.000 Anyway, and Jim Gaff again, all these guys he represents.

02:12:27.000 So he got too busy for me, which I understand.

02:12:29.000 It was weird.

02:12:30.000 He stopped...

02:12:31.000 So we stopped working together right as my show started taking up. 0.99

02:12:36.000 Right as I'm like, what the fuck? 0.97

02:12:38.000 And all of a sudden people start showing up at clubs when I'm there and I'm like, whoa, whoa. 0.99

02:12:41.000 And we start selling out weeks ahead of time. 1.00

02:12:44.000 I'm like, holy fuck. 0.99

02:12:45.000 I did the Chicago Theater in... 1.00

02:12:47.000 How many seats is that?

02:12:49.000 3,700.

02:12:50.000 Jesus, you are popular.

02:12:52.000 Pretty popular.

02:12:53.000 Jesus Christ.

02:12:55.000 I don't know what happened, but I did the Chicago Theater many years ago, and I remember saying something about the podcast, and I said, how many of you guys listen to the podcast?

02:13:04.000 And it was a roar through the crowd.

02:13:06.000 And I went, whoa.

02:13:08.000 That was when I realized.

02:13:10.000 I was like, whoa.

02:13:11.000 Something's going on.

02:13:12.000 Yeah.

02:13:13.000 I thought it was going to be like 10% of the people.

02:13:16.000 Yeah.

02:13:16.000 I don't pay attention to anything, man.

02:13:19.000 One of the secrets from me staying me, and people have accused me of changing.

02:13:25.000 It's called, I evolve as a person.

02:13:27.000 I learn more.

02:13:29.000 I study myself.

02:13:30.000 I'm ruthlessly critical of myself.

02:13:33.000 I'm very analytical, self-analytical.

02:13:35.000 And I don't like a lot of the stuff I do.

02:13:39.000 Just so I get better at it, hopefully.

02:13:41.000 But I just didn't know that anybody was paying attention.

02:13:45.000 I don't look at numbers.

02:13:47.000 I occasionally look and I go, ugh.

02:13:50.000 I don't want to think about that.

02:13:51.000 And I don't think about it.

02:13:52.000 I just do it.

02:13:53.000 But that moment where I was in front of 3,700 people, I go, how many of you guys listen to the podcast?

02:13:58.000 And they went, yeah.

02:13:59.000 I was like, whoa, okay.

02:14:02.000 This is not what I expected.

02:14:03.000 I thought it was going to be a bunch of people, but a bunch of people like, no, man, fear factor, UFC, whatever.

02:14:10.000 And that's when I realized something was going on.

02:14:13.000 That's a weird feeling, right?

02:14:14.000 When you realize all these people are coming to see you because of something you did yourself.

02:14:17.000 Yeah, it was the, yes, because of something you did.

02:14:19.000 And it was when I stopped trying, almost.

02:14:22.000 Same with Maren. 0.99

02:14:23.000 You know, when Maren stopped trying is when WTF took off. 1.00

02:14:26.000 Yes.

02:14:27.000 That's same with me.

02:14:28.000 Like when I stopped censoring myself or overthinking, like I would go on stage and I would have my jokes down to a science, right?

02:14:34.000 And that's obviously YouTube is not that way and I just let it rip.

02:14:37.000 And that's the thing that connected with people.

02:14:39.000 It's so amazing.

02:14:40.000 And the Burbank, they had that Burbank Comedy Festival at that Flappers Comedy Club.

02:14:44.000 And they asked me, they go, would you do your podcast here at five o'clock on a Thursday or whatever?

02:14:49.000 And I was like, okay, I'll do it for you, whatever.

02:14:51.000 And there'd be about five people there who's gonna fucking show up at five o'clock on a Thursday in Burbank, right? 0.67

02:14:56.000 Place is almost full and I was like, uh-oh. 0.93

02:15:00.000 That's when I was like, whoa. 0.99

02:15:02.000 What the fuck's going on? 0.99

02:15:03.000 Five o'clock and there were girls there, I'll never forget this, that they came from Compton. 0.99

02:15:09.000 And they were like, oh, we had to get off work, we had to get a ride, we got here, we had to see...

02:15:14.000 And I was like, wow, I'm really connecting with people, right?

02:15:17.000 That don't look like me.

02:15:19.000 But they share the same ideology.

02:15:22.000 It's like, when I would go see George Carlin, if you ever went and saw him live, there were 80-year-old hippies, and there were teenager kids, and there was everybody in between. 0.96

02:15:29.000 And that's what it looks like at my shows, and it makes me so fucking happy. 0.80

02:15:34.000 So that's when I was like, whoa. 0.88

02:15:36.000 And I was like, thanks, flappers, for making me do this show, because now I realize.

02:15:39.000 Listen, Jimmy, I'm happy for you, too.

02:15:41.000 And I really think that you're one of the only people out there that really doesn't toe a line one way or the other.

02:15:49.000 You really do speak the truth.

02:15:50.000 And I said that about you the first time.

02:15:51.000 I said it about you before I ever had you on.

02:15:53.000 I was like, this guy just says what he thinks.

02:15:55.000 Whether you agree with him or disagree with him, you can't.

02:15:57.000 Point to him and say, oh, this guy is just a left-wing hack or this guy is a right-wing apologist or whatever it is.

02:16:04.000 You just say what you think.

02:16:06.000 And that is so refreshing and it's so valuable.

02:16:09.000 There's just not enough of that today.

02:16:11.000 There's not enough.

02:16:12.000 And these people that are super intelligent that think that if you vote one way, it's a protest vote and you shouldn't have a protest vote because you're throwing away your vote and you're going to let the right-wing people win, like you're missing everything.

02:16:25.000 You're missing this whole thing.

02:16:27.000 This whole thing is super complicated.

02:16:29.000 It's very complicated, and the only way to see through the haze is to be honest.

02:16:34.000 And you're one of the only people that's doing it.

02:16:36.000 Well, I really appreciate you saying that, and I think that there's a lot of common ground, especially when it comes to getting corporations' fingers out of our government and ending wars.

02:16:44.000 I think a lot of people agree on that, and that actually scares the establishment.

02:16:48.000 Yeah, I think it does.

02:16:50.000 Jimmy.

02:16:51.000 Joe.

02:16:51.000 Thanks for being here, man.

02:16:52.000 Thanks for having me.

02:16:52.000 I really appreciate it.

02:16:54.000 Tell people how they get your show.

02:16:55.000 Tell people your Twitter page.

02:16:57.000 So just go to JimmyDoreComedy.com.

02:17:00.000 That's my website.

02:17:01.000 And we're on the YouTubes at YouTube.com slash the Jimmy Dore Show.

02:17:05.000 And I'm on Twitter, Jimmy underscore Dore, the whole thing.

02:17:08.000 I appreciate you, brother.

02:17:09.000 Thank you.

02:17:10.000 I appreciate it, too.

02:17:11.000 Jimmy Dore, ladies and gentlemen!

The Joe Rogan Experience - August 09, 2018

Joe Rogan Experience #1156 - Jimmy Dore

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