The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1239 - Travis Barker

00:00:01.000 Let's do it.

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00:00:06.000 Hello, Travis.

00:00:07.000 What's going on?

00:00:08.000 Thanks, man.

00:00:08.000 Thanks for doing this.

00:00:09.000 I really appreciate it.

00:00:10.000 Stoked to be here.

00:00:10.000 It's cool to have you.

00:00:12.000 Hey, so I wanted to talk about what we were talking about right before we started. 0.60

00:00:15.000 I've always watched you play drums, and I'm like, how the fuck does that guy's arms not fall off?

00:00:20.000 I mean, you have so much repetitive motion. 0.94

00:00:23.000 I've never understood how you could do that.

00:00:26.000 Just barely.

00:00:29.000 Pull this thing right up like a fist from your face. 0.95

00:00:31.000 There we go.

00:00:32.000 I always do battle ropes.

00:00:34.000 Oh, okay.

00:00:35.000 That must do something.

00:00:36.000 Constantly.

00:00:36.000 I'll do 30 minutes.

00:00:39.000 Not high intensity the whole time, but just keep my shoulders and arms moving as I prepare for a tour.

00:00:45.000 But yeah, I think my wrists probably have gone through the most hell over the years.

00:00:51.000 I just feel like just normal people's wrist strength I probably don't have because there's been so much grinding.

00:00:56.000 They...

00:00:57.000 Pop and do all sorts of weird things.

00:01:00.000 But I feel like because I do battle ropes and because I box and I kind of work out fast twitch muscles, I really don't get tired.

00:01:09.000 It's amazing.

00:01:10.000 Because so many people have repetitive stress injuries.

00:01:13.000 Even secretaries, they get carpal tunnel. 1.00

00:01:16.000 People who ride a lot get carpal tunnel. 0.99

00:01:18.000 Kids are getting injuries on their thumbs from fucking around with their phone too much. 0.98

00:01:22.000 I felt like when I smoked cigarettes a lot, I was feeling kind of the first symptoms of that stuff. 0.99

00:01:28.000 I wasn't drinking a lot.

00:01:30.000 I was kind of a dumpster on tour.

00:01:32.000 You know, not really taking care of my body and I could really feel it.

00:01:36.000 And then, are you still vegan?

00:01:39.000 Yeah.

00:01:39.000 And you run that restaurant, right?

00:01:41.000 Was it Crossroads?

00:01:43.000 Or it's one of the owners?

00:01:45.000 Running it is saying a lot.

00:01:46.000 I couldn't do that.

00:01:47.000 I shouldn't have said running it.

00:01:48.000 No, Tal Ronan is the man.

00:01:51.000 He's like, The illest vegan chef ever.

00:01:53.000 He's like an old punk rock hardcore guy. 0.87

00:01:56.000 New John Joseph forever.

00:01:57.000 Yeah, John Joseph keeps trying to get me to go there.

00:01:59.000 I almost went last time he was in town with him.

00:02:01.000 Next time I'm going to make it down there.

00:02:03.000 I think probably 80-90% of the people that eat there aren't vegan.

00:02:08.000 Because it's that good.

00:02:09.000 Yeah, that's what I hear.

00:02:10.000 Dana White said that.

00:02:11.000 Yeah, Dana, we usually have dinner there when he's in town.

00:02:15.000 So I think for Dana to be able to sit through it and enjoy it.

00:02:18.000 And Matt Serra, I think he brought everyone for like, I don't know if it was like Fight Companion.

00:02:23.000 It was like one of those fight shows.

00:02:24.000 Yeah, it was Dana White's Looking for a Fight YouTube show.

00:02:27.000 Yeah.

00:02:28.000 I was on tour, but they FaceTimed me from there.

00:02:30.000 But yeah, Tal is like a G. He's the best vegan chef in the world by far.

00:02:35.000 That's cool.

00:02:36.000 How did you get involved with that?

00:02:37.000 Were you already cleaning your diet up because of your injuries or because you were trying to keep your body tuned for drumming or you just wanted to clean it up, period?

00:02:48.000 No, I was vegetarian since I was 13. Really?

00:02:51.000 Yeah.

00:02:52.000 And then after my accident, I was in the hospital actually.

00:02:57.000 Long story that I'll just sum up into a real quick piece.

00:03:01.000 This is a plain accident.

00:03:01.000 Yeah.

00:03:02.000 And I had to eat meat in the hospital because they didn't have any other kind of vegan options of protein.

00:03:08.000 So I'd eat bags of beef jerky, whatever they would give me.

00:03:12.000 Whatever I could stomach and not think about what I was eating.

00:03:15.000 Because I wasn't eating at all.

00:03:18.000 And I was just ditching my food, giving it to my friends because I didn't want to eat any of it and I got caught.

00:03:22.000 So long story short, I ate a little bit of meat in the hospital.

00:03:26.000 And when I got out, I just felt like the next evolution of my eating would try and be vegan.

00:03:32.000 And it was so easy in LA because we have so many great vegan restaurants.

00:03:36.000 So yeah, that was pretty much it.

00:03:38.000 I was already vegan.

00:03:39.000 I was actually at a Bad Brain show, one of the best hardcore bands in the world to ever, ever do it.

00:03:46.000 And Tal approached me there saying, hey, I had this idea for a restaurant.

00:03:50.000 I'd really like you to be involved.

00:03:52.000 And I said, say no more.

00:03:53.000 Just tell me what you need.

00:03:55.000 Were you thinking about it all before?

00:03:57.000 Because that's a weird thing to approach someone with.

00:03:59.000 Hey man, I'm thinking about opening up a restaurant.

00:04:01.000 I need this drummer.

00:04:03.000 Yeah, right?

00:04:04.000 No, I think he was just reaching out to friends and family because he was Oprah's chef and he was Ellen DeGeneres' chef and he was all these like...

00:04:13.000 You know, really high-profile people's vegan chef when they would, you know, do a vegan diet for however long.

00:04:19.000 Some forever, some just like a two-week thing.

00:04:22.000 But I think he just got to the point where he wanted to do something for himself.

00:04:27.000 And then Crossroads was born.

00:04:29.000 And I knew how good he was, so I just told him, say no more, tell me what you need from me, and I'm there.

00:04:36.000 And then it just, you know, I think it's been five years now.

00:04:39.000 Well, it's got a fantastic reputation.

00:04:41.000 I know a bunch of people that have eaten there, and they love it.

00:04:44.000 Well, it's not because of me.

00:04:45.000 It's because of Tal and his food, for sure.

00:04:47.000 Yeah, Tal and Scott, the chefs there, are just, you know, the best.

00:04:52.000 Now, how hands-on were you in the...

00:04:54.000 Were you just one of the people promoting it?

00:04:56.000 Like, how hands-on were you with the construction of it, or...?

00:05:00.000 Nothing with the decor or anything.

00:05:02.000 He would run stuff by us.

00:05:03.000 Like, hey, check this out.

00:05:04.000 Tell us what you guys think of this.

00:05:06.000 There's basically menus change every season.

00:05:09.000 So it's not the same menu all year long.

00:05:12.000 So as we prepare for the next season's menu, he's testing it on us the season prior.

00:05:19.000 So he'll be bringing out dishes and letting us try it.

00:05:22.000 But yeah, he curates the whole thing.

00:05:24.000 That's interesting.

00:05:25.000 So when he gets his food, when he's preparing his food, is he getting his stuff directly from farmers?

00:05:30.000 How is he getting his food?

00:05:32.000 Yeah, directly from farms, yeah.

00:05:34.000 So he has to curate these relationships with these farmers and just go visit them and find out how they're growing their food?

00:05:41.000 Yeah, and you'll be all set with a menu if it's fall, but then those same vegetables aren't in season.

00:05:48.000 So he has to rethink everything for the next season and not kind of repeat himself.

00:05:53.000 So he's really got it down to a science.

00:05:55.000 And how long has he been vegan for?

00:05:58.000 I don't know how long Tal's been vegan.

00:06:00.000 I've never really asked.

00:06:02.000 Because it's got to be incredibly difficult to be a vegan chef.

00:06:05.000 I would imagine being a regular chef is difficult, but when you put all those restrictions, you have to make things taste interesting and different.

00:06:14.000 Yeah, I think that's where Chef Scott comes in because he actually comes from a meat background.

00:06:19.000 So he was working at Italian restaurants and Italian Mediterranean restaurants that cooked everything.

00:06:24.000 So it was infusing this vegan, obviously, lifestyle of eating with Chef Scott's taste as well.

00:06:33.000 So I think he had to think that out to where it would appeal and meat eaters would eat there too and not really notice a difference.

00:06:40.000 Because I agree, you know, sometimes I'll be on tour and you go to a vegan spot and I'll take my bus driver in or whoever's traveling with me and they're like, oh man, this is real.

00:06:49.000 They can't stand it.

00:06:51.000 Crossroads is not one of those spots where you're thinking about, man, I might not enjoy this meal.

00:06:56.000 There's some good spots.

00:06:57.000 LA has some great spots.

00:06:59.000 You ever go to Follow Your Heart in the Valley?

00:07:01.000 All the time.

00:07:01.000 It's a great spot.

00:07:02.000 Yeah, that's the spot close to home that I love.

00:07:04.000 Follow Your Heart.

00:07:06.000 Shout out to Erewhon.

00:07:07.000 Erewhon has good vegan options.

00:07:10.000 Chef Ito, who has a spot in downtown called Alok, who took a vow of silence 22 years ago.

00:07:17.000 Yeah.

00:07:18.000 What?

00:07:18.000 He's special, man.

00:07:20.000 Yeah, 22 years ago, took a vow of silence.

00:07:22.000 And he's done?

00:07:23.000 No more talking?

00:07:24.000 No more talking. 0.99

00:07:25.000 What in the fuck is that about? 0.99

00:07:27.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:07:27.000 So he just communicates. 0.99

00:07:29.000 If he has a lot to say, he'll write it down, but other than that, you just read the lips, and I know what he's saying, but he shows up to...

00:07:35.000 Whoa, that's so crazy.

00:07:37.000 Yeah, and he takes a lot of photos, so he'll show up to, like, punk or rap, whatever show I'm playing, he's in the pit with his camera, this silent guy who doesn't say a word. 1.00

00:07:46.000 Fuck. 0.99

00:07:46.000 Yeah, and his cooking is phenomenal. 0.99

00:07:49.000 But yeah, LA, we're spoiled with great vegan restaurants. 1.00

00:07:52.000 That's a fucking trip. 0.99

00:07:54.000 22 years of no talking? 1.00

00:07:56.000 Yeah, he also does this juicing where this year he juiced for 189 days with no food.

00:08:03.000 Pfft.

00:08:04.000 Wow.

00:08:05.000 What did he get down to?

00:08:07.000 18 pounds?

00:08:08.000 Yeah, he lost about 20-something pounds. 1.00

00:08:10.000 Fuck, man. 1.00

00:08:12.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:08:12.000 He does it every year. 1.00

00:08:14.000 Wow.

00:08:14.000 Yeah.

00:08:15.000 He's trying to vanish.

00:08:16.000 Right?

00:08:17.000 He's trying to not talk.

00:08:18.000 I don't think I can do it.

00:08:19.000 Not eat.

00:08:20.000 Yeah, intermittent fasting is like as much as I can do.

00:08:23.000 Yeah, I do that every night, but that's, the vow of science is freaking me, the silence is freaking me out.

00:08:29.000 Yeah, and I've never really pried and kind of like asked a bunch of questions of why.

00:08:34.000 Because they don't even have to write a lot.

00:08:35.000 Yeah, that too, but no, I've been around when people ask him and he just said he wanted to time out.

00:08:40.000 For 22 years?

00:08:42.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:08:42.000 That's a serious fucking timeout. 0.99

00:08:43.000 How old is homeboy? 1.00

00:08:45.000 He's gotta be probably in his 50s.

00:08:47.000 So almost half his life?

00:08:48.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:08:49.000 What the fuck, man? 1.00

00:08:51.000 Yep. 1.00

00:08:51.000 But he spends Christmas with me, spends Thanksgiving with my family and I. Oh, that's cool. 1.00

00:08:55.000 Yeah, it's pretty cool.

00:08:56.000 And everybody just smiles at him?

00:08:57.000 Yeah, everyone just smiles and waves, basically.

00:08:59.000 He'd be a good guy to sit next to someone who's on coke.

00:09:02.000 Totally. 0.99

00:09:03.000 Because they would just talk his fucking ear off and he'd just be sitting there all silent. 0.99

00:09:06.000 Yeah, not yesterday. 1.00

00:09:07.000 And they'd just blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 1.00

00:09:09.000 Yeah, fuck man. 1.00

00:09:11.000 I've never even heard of anything like that. 1.00

00:09:13.000 Does he make any noises?

00:09:14.000 Does he whistle?

00:09:16.000 No.

00:09:17.000 I've heard him snort one time when he was laughing hella hard, but that was about as close as it gets.

00:09:22.000 So he doesn't laugh out loud?

00:09:23.000 Like, ha ha ha ha?

00:09:25.000 Wow.

00:09:26.000 Yeah, nothing.

00:09:27.000 Terrible comedy club audience member.

00:09:29.000 Yeah, it would be rough.

00:09:32.000 He has a march too.

00:09:33.000 It's called March of Silence that happens once a year where you have a bunch of them that basically, you know, and they're basically marching for the March of Silence for like the cruelty of animals and whatever else.

00:09:45.000 I'd like to have him on the podcast and see how long I can talk to him for.

00:09:48.000 Yeah.

00:09:49.000 Just to see what it would be like.

00:09:52.000 That's so strange.

00:09:53.000 It sounds cool.

00:09:54.000 I mean, I love that there's people like that out there, though.

00:09:57.000 I do.

00:09:57.000 I love hearing those stories.

00:09:59.000 The world needs him, you know?

00:10:00.000 When you said that, I got excited.

00:10:02.000 Like, the guy's been silent for 20 years.

00:10:03.000 I'm like, whoa.

00:10:04.000 You know, there's something about that.

00:10:06.000 It makes you go, wow.

00:10:07.000 I was talking hella loud when I first met him.

00:10:10.000 And he was like, I can hear you, you know?

00:10:13.000 I was like, oh, man.

00:10:14.000 Because I was trying to wrap my head around, you know, no one did an introduction going, hey, this guy's silent.

00:10:20.000 Oh, they didn't tell you?

00:10:21.000 No.

00:10:22.000 No.

00:10:22.000 I had no idea.

00:10:24.000 So I'm talking really loud, and he just whispers to me, mouths to me, I can hear you.

00:10:30.000 And I was like, okay.

00:10:31.000 And then I just figured it out over time.

00:10:33.000 Wow.

00:10:33.000 He's silent by choice.

00:10:36.000 Whew! 0.99

00:10:36.000 That's heavy. 0.99

00:10:37.000 Is he involved in heavy meditation or Buddhism or anything very strange like that?

00:10:42.000 Yeah, he meditates.

00:10:43.000 I think he has a lot of Buddhist qualities.

00:10:49.000 I think if he had to lean in some kind of religion or practice, it would be that.

00:10:54.000 Wow.

00:10:55.000 Yeah.

00:10:56.000 That's intense.

00:10:57.000 Yeah.

00:10:57.000 That's a serious commitment, man.

00:10:59.000 Yeah.

00:10:59.000 I couldn't even imagine going 22 days without talking.

00:11:03.000 A day, I think.

00:11:04.000 Anything, I think we'd catch ourselves it being very hard.

00:11:08.000 I was going to get my tonsils and adenoids removed because I have sleep apnea because I have a fat neck, but I found a mouthpiece that I can sleep with that keeps my tongue from falling over.

00:11:22.000 When your neck is thick, your wind hole is smaller, believe it or not, because the more muscle you put in, the smaller your hole gets.

00:11:31.000 And then if you have a big tongue, when you lay back, you can actually block your airway.

00:11:35.000 Wow.

00:11:36.000 Yeah, and so friends that I know have had their adenoids and their tonsils removed, and they actually take some of the soft tissue out of your passageway so you can breathe easier.

00:11:46.000 But the problem is you can't talk for like seven days.

00:11:50.000 Yeah, that would probably be rough for you.

00:11:51.000 For me.

00:11:52.000 Yeah.

00:11:52.000 I wonder if wide neck, you know, like the internet phenomenon, I wonder if he has the same problem.

00:11:57.000 Oh, that guy?

00:11:57.000 Oh, that guy must sleep terrible.

00:11:59.000 Yeah.

00:11:59.000 Yeah, his neck starts up here.

00:12:00.000 It's crazy.

00:12:01.000 His neck starts at the top of his ears.

00:12:03.000 Yeah.

00:12:03.000 It works its way to his shoulders.

00:12:05.000 Tonsils out is a bum out. 1.00

00:12:08.000 I did that.

00:12:08.000 Did you?

00:12:09.000 Yeah.

00:12:09.000 Did you have tonsillitis or...?

00:12:12.000 Nah, you know what I had is I had...

00:12:14.000 I was smoking tons of weed, right?

00:12:18.000 But I would smoke backwoods.

00:12:20.000 Like, I loved woods, so everything.

00:12:22.000 These right here.

00:12:23.000 I got them right here.

00:12:24.000 Yeah.

00:12:25.000 So I'd smoke about 20...

00:12:27.000 20 backwoods a day.

00:12:28.000 Wow, that's a lot.

00:12:29.000 Yeah.

00:12:30.000 And I was recording an album with the transplants and I turned to Skinhead Rob and I was like, yo, I think I have something like, something's lodged in my throat.

00:12:39.000 Like I could barely breathe right now.

00:12:41.000 And I kept smoking.

00:12:44.000 I didn't really know what was going on.

00:12:47.000 And then I went to the hospital that night and they rushed me to another hospital to get my tonsils removed.

00:12:53.000 Because they were like twice the size that they should be.

00:12:55.000 And then I had a throat infection.

00:12:57.000 And then it comes to find out I had what's called like Barrett's esophagus, which is like pre-cancer lining my esophagus from smoking and I don't know, I guess just abuse over the years.

00:13:08.000 So that's what led to my tonsils being pulled out.

00:13:13.000 When you think about this, you probably shouldn't smoke too many of these because it's just plain tobacco.

00:13:19.000 I love them, though.

00:13:20.000 It got to the point where I couldn't smoke joints.

00:13:22.000 I couldn't smoke out of a bong, a pipe.

00:13:25.000 It had to be a backwood.

00:13:26.000 That's where I am.

00:13:27.000 I'm at that spot.

00:13:28.000 I love it.

00:13:29.000 I like them.

00:13:29.000 Did you ever smoke cigarettes?

00:13:30.000 No.

00:13:31.000 See, I did.

00:13:32.000 I smoked a lot of cigarettes, and then I quit smoking cigarettes, just smoked weed, and then I discovered backwoods, and I was kind of getting a little bit of both.

00:13:39.000 I was still getting the tobacco that I missed, but yeah.

00:13:44.000 Yeah, my friend Ari said that he started smoking spliffs in England, you know, and when he was over in the UK, they mixed the weed with the tobacco, and he got totally hooked on tobacco again.

00:13:55.000 Because he had quit cigarettes for years, and then he started smoking the weed mixed with the tobacco, and before he knew it, he was smoking cigarettes again.

00:14:02.000 Yeah.

00:14:02.000 So he smoked while he was over there, and then he quit as soon as he was done, and then came back to the US. Yeah, I feel like they just started smoking just pure weed over there.

00:14:10.000 Just barely!

00:14:11.000 For years, it was both.

00:14:13.000 Yeah, I don't understand that.

00:14:15.000 Uh-uh.

00:14:15.000 Like, how'd that work out over there?

00:14:17.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:14:18.000 But it's still so illegal over there, too. 0.99

00:14:20.000 It's like, Jesus fucking Christ. 0.99

00:14:21.000 It's 2019, fellas. 0.99

00:14:23.000 It's good times.

00:14:24.000 When I used to fly over there, we'd have to tape tons of weed to our nuts. 0.95

00:14:28.000 Just...

00:14:29.000 Just to be able to...

00:14:30.000 And in our road cases, just so we could smoke over there, because they had dirt weed.

00:14:33.000 It was horrible weed. 0.99

00:14:35.000 But, yeah, it was a pain in the ass. 1.00

00:14:37.000 It's fucking dangerous, bringing that stuff overseas, though. 0.99

00:14:40.000 If you get arrested, that's serious. 0.99

00:14:42.000 Yeah, I brought it...

00:14:43.000 So I'd bring it everywhere like that, and we went to Iraq.

00:14:46.000 What kind of tape?

00:14:47.000 Like gaff tape.

00:14:49.000 It's just the worst, man.

00:14:50.000 I feel like you tear the first layer of your nuts off when you go to grab your weed.

00:14:56.000 But yeah, we would do that.

00:14:57.000 That's a commitment though.

00:14:59.000 Yeah, I actually brought it.

00:15:00.000 I made the big mistake of not bringing a bunch, but I got to Iraq.

00:15:03.000 We went to Iraq for like right when the war broke out.

00:15:07.000 What was it?

00:15:08.000 Like 2003 or 2004?

00:15:10.000 And we were over there and scandalous Estevan Oriol, the photographer, he's over there with us documenting the whole thing.

00:15:17.000 And I pull it out because we're at this airport in Balrain, but I feel like it's a field and no one's going to mess with us. 0.98

00:15:24.000 And he's like, hey, bro, look at the back of your fucking passport. 0.98

00:15:27.000 Look what it says. 0.99

00:15:28.000 And it says right there, like, you're basically like, they'll kill you if they find, you know, you brought any drugs into Iraq or, you know, where we were, Balrain.

00:15:37.000 So I did away with everything and I just kind of took up drinking on that trip.

00:15:42.000 And I'm not really much of a drinker.

00:15:45.000 Do you still smoke weed?

00:15:46.000 I don't.

00:15:47.000 Nah.

00:15:48.000 I have a friend who's like a dear friend who's like a cool like young doctor named Dr. B in San Diego and I called him.

00:15:54.000 He actually removed my my tonsils and then like a week later I found out I had what was called pre-cancer, Barrett's esophagus.

00:16:02.000 I said what does this mean Dr. B? Should I just like kind of like kind of like tone down like how much I'm smoking?

00:16:08.000 He's like no this means like this is your warning shot like pay attention stop smoking.

00:16:14.000 Esophageal cancer is a rough one, too.

00:16:16.000 That's what killed Christopher Hitchens.

00:16:18.000 Really?

00:16:19.000 Yeah, that's a rough one. 1.00

00:16:21.000 That kills a lot of fucking people. 1.00

00:16:23.000 Once you get it, you get it and you're gone, basically. 1.00

00:16:26.000 I think Hitch said like 95% of the people that get it.

00:16:30.000 Yeah, so I felt like he's always pretty honest with me.

00:16:34.000 I just stopped.

00:16:36.000 I love CBD. That's pretty much what I mess with now, but that's all.

00:16:41.000 A lot of people use CBD and they find that it alleviates anxiety and lets them sleep better.

00:16:47.000 Do you find that?

00:16:49.000 Yeah, as long as I take like triple or quadruple the amount that it says to take on the bottle.

00:16:53.000 Right.

00:16:54.000 Because I feel like what I take, if I take what the proper dosage is, it doesn't do much, but...

00:17:00.000 I'm one of those people whose mind's racing constantly.

00:17:02.000 I'll get home from the studio at 1 or 2, and I'm just kind of figuring out how long I've got to sleep before I get to wake up my kids and go to school.

00:17:11.000 And I just sit there with my wheels spinning, unless I use CBD. And then that kind of helps.

00:17:17.000 And then I have what's called trigeminal neuralgia.

00:17:20.000 Have you ever heard of that?

00:17:21.000 No. 1.00

00:17:21.000 Oh, it's the fucking worst. 1.00

00:17:22.000 It's called the suicide disease. 0.99

00:17:24.000 Because basically all of your nerves in your face are firing...

00:17:30.000 We're good to go.

00:17:34.000 We're good to go.

00:17:48.000 Get a bunch of root canals done that they don't need, or they don't know how to treat it, and usually people kill themselves.

00:17:55.000 Whoa.

00:17:55.000 Yeah.

00:17:56.000 It's gnarly.

00:17:57.000 I didn't really know about it. 0.99

00:17:57.000 I just was home one day, and I was like, what the fuck? 0.99

00:18:00.000 The whole side of my face is burning. 0.99

00:18:02.000 Hmm.

00:18:04.000 It's miserable.

00:18:05.000 It's a chronic pain condition that affects the trigeminal nerve, which carries a sensation from your face to your brain.

00:18:11.000 If you have trigeminal neurology, even mild stimulation of your face, such as from brushing your teeth or putting on makeup, may trigger a jolt of excruciating pain. 0.99

00:18:19.000 Holy shit, man. 0.99

00:18:21.000 What is the cause? 1.00

00:18:22.000 What causes that?

00:18:24.000 All different things.

00:18:25.000 They thought like mine, I maybe got mine from Impact, like from my accident.

00:18:29.000 And then maybe a little sparring that I've done has triggered it.

00:18:34.000 Also dental, when I get dental work done, it triggers it.

00:18:39.000 But the CBD stops it.

00:18:40.000 Yeah, CBD and if it's really bad, there's this medication called gabapentin.

00:18:47.000 And I feel like that's been a real great way to kind of like mask the pain.

00:18:53.000 And once the gabapentin calms the nerve, it kind of deads the nerve, 24-48 hours it's gone.

00:18:58.000 If it's a really bad episode, if it's not so bad, CBD just keeps it away.

00:19:04.000 Wow.

00:19:05.000 They say that a lot of nerve diseases are inflammation caused.

00:19:09.000 So sometimes if you change your diet, you can smooth some of those out, like lower the sugar intake and some of the other things that might be causing inflammation.

00:19:17.000 Did they give you any advice like that?

00:19:19.000 No, but around the same time, I figured out I was allergic to gluten, which I really thought was whatever.

00:19:25.000 I was like, yeah, right, okay, yeah, we need to be gluten-free.

00:19:28.000 Then I tried it, and the doctor I had seen said, well, you really got to try it, though.

00:19:33.000 You got to commit 100%.

00:19:35.000 You got to give it at least like two to three weeks and see how you feel.

00:19:38.000 And I did it and it was a game changer.

00:19:41.000 Like, I felt normal.

00:19:43.000 Whereas I'd have a lot of ups and downs depending on what I was eating.

00:19:46.000 And I'm still eating clean at the time.

00:19:48.000 I'm still eating vegan.

00:19:49.000 I'm eating, you know, whatever.

00:19:50.000 But, you know, a lot of us can't, you know, digest or kind of our bodies can't absorb the gluten.

00:19:58.000 Yeah, well, have you ever had pasta in Europe?

00:20:01.000 Yeah.

00:20:01.000 It's very different.

00:20:02.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

00:20:03.000 We have so much shit in ours, you know? 1.00

00:20:04.000 So much... 1.00

00:20:05.000 Well, it's the...

00:20:06.000 Maynard Keenan from Tool, he explained it to me.

00:20:09.000 Because, you know, he runs an Osteria in Arizona.

00:20:11.000 I didn't know that.

00:20:12.000 Yeah, he's... 1.00

00:20:13.000 The guy's a fucking wizard, man. 1.00

00:20:15.000 He's got his own winery. 1.00

00:20:17.000 He runs an Osteria.

00:20:18.000 But he said that when...

00:20:21.000 And we subsequently looked it up after he told me this.

00:20:24.000 In the early turn of the century, when they were growing wheat, they experimented and changed the wheat to make it more dense so that you could get more yield out of an acre.

00:20:36.000 And so by doing that, they changed how your body processes it.

00:20:41.000 And there's more complex glutens in like a stalk of wheat.

00:20:44.000 Like an old-timey wheat, like you would get in Italy or France or something like that.

00:20:48.000 It's a different wheat.

00:20:49.000 It looks different.

00:20:50.000 It's a much more scrawny looking plant.

00:20:52.000 And so if they had an acre of that, you don't get nearly as much wheat.

00:20:56.000 And so in America, we said, oh, bigger's better.

00:20:58.000 And we made it bigger and better and thicker.

00:21:01.000 And your body has a much harder time processing it.

00:21:03.000 And that's why people get so much inflammation and leaky gut and all these different ailments that people get from bread and pasta in this country.

00:21:11.000 It's because of this much more complex wheat.

00:21:14.000 But I buy pasta overseas.

00:21:16.000 I buy this... 0.99

00:21:18.000 God damn it. 1.00

00:21:20.000 I'll say the name of it. 0.99

00:21:21.000 I found out about it in Italy that they sell it in America.

00:21:25.000 Just for that reason?

00:21:26.000 Yeah.

00:21:27.000 Wow.

00:21:27.000 Because I can eat it.

00:21:28.000 And if I want pasta, it's not that disgusting.

00:21:32.000 Yeah.

00:21:32.000 Here, let me find it.

00:21:33.000 Yeah, I love pasta.

00:21:34.000 I do too. 0.89

00:21:35.000 But it's something that I found if I eat a lot of, it just fucks me. 0.95

00:21:40.000 So I have to make sure that I don't. 0.92

00:21:42.000 Let me find it real quick and I'll pull up the name of it.

00:21:45.000 And I felt like Leaky Gut was like a hoax.

00:21:47.000 I would be like, what are you talking about?

00:21:49.000 I've never even heard about this, but I feel like it's legit and they're spot on about that.

00:21:54.000 It's called Morelli.

00:21:55.000 Morelli Spaghetti.

00:21:57.000 And it's from Italy.

00:21:58.000 And the type of wheat that they use, it's a very different type of wheat.

00:22:02.000 It tastes different.

00:22:03.000 It doesn't bloat you up as much.

00:22:07.000 I think somebody explained it to me, like what kind of wheat you're looking for.

00:22:12.000 But...

00:22:13.000 What I've found is that I've tried gluten-free pasta and it's like...

00:22:17.000 You know what I like better than gluten-free pasta?

00:22:20.000 Spaghetti squash. 0.98

00:22:21.000 Spaghetti squash with marinara sauce is fucking delicious. 0.99

00:22:25.000 I actually sometimes like it better than pasta. 0.99

00:22:29.000 They sell that at Air One all the time in the hot parts.

00:22:32.000 Spaghetti squash is outstanding.

00:22:34.000 Yeah.

00:22:35.000 And it's guilt-free.

00:22:37.000 You can eat it and you're not thinking you're bloating yourself up.

00:22:41.000 Yeah.

00:22:41.000 But we've ruined pasta.

00:22:43.000 We've ruined bread.

00:22:44.000 Pretty much.

00:22:44.000 But it gives you that feeling.

00:22:47.000 You know that feeling you get after you eat a lot of it?

00:22:48.000 You're like, ugh.

00:22:49.000 That's what that is. 0.99

00:22:50.000 Your body's like, what the fuck am I doing with this? 0.98

00:22:53.000 Yeah, you're immediately tired. 0.99

00:22:54.000 You feel bloated.

00:22:55.000 But if you eat it in Italy, you don't get that feeling.

00:22:58.000 And you look at those people over there, they're not fat.

00:23:00.000 Yeah.

00:23:01.000 It's weird.

00:23:01.000 It's true.

00:23:03.000 Yeah, they're walking around all over the place, and they're eating pasta.

00:23:07.000 Yeah.

00:23:08.000 In Europe, everyone's walking and riding bikes.

00:23:10.000 Yeah.

00:23:11.000 Americans.

00:23:12.000 Well, that's the thing about France, too.

00:23:14.000 France, when they're eating those baguettes, they're eating it with, like, this very rich butter that's, like, grass-fed butter.

00:23:21.000 It's, like, a dark yellow butter, so it's very high-fat content.

00:23:24.000 It's got a lot of essential fatty acids in it.

00:23:27.000 And it's a different kind of bread, too.

00:23:30.000 And meanwhile, they're not fat.

00:23:31.000 Yeah.

00:23:32.000 And they're drinking wine, and they're not fat.

00:23:33.000 Like, it doesn't make any sense.

00:23:35.000 Yeah.

00:23:37.000 Agreed. 1.00

00:23:38.000 Standard American diet is just fucked up. 0.99

00:23:40.000 But I've always wanted to ask you that about, like, the drumming. 0.99

00:23:43.000 Because, I mean, everything that I do, like everything repetitive, whether it's boxing or even archery, a lot of people get injuries in archery just from repetitive stress, from just pulling the bow back over and over again.

00:23:55.000 I'm like... 0.99

00:23:56.000 Goddamn, Travis, your whole fucking thing is repetitive. 1.00

00:24:00.000 And I see you. 1.00

00:24:01.000 Every time I see you, like, my shoulders hurt.

00:24:03.000 Yeah.

00:24:04.000 My elbows hurt.

00:24:05.000 No, I mean, my first week hurts.

00:24:07.000 My first week sucks, like, on tour.

00:24:09.000 Really? 0.96

00:24:09.000 Like, getting acclimated. 0.96

00:24:10.000 Because even practice, rehearsals are not a show.

00:24:13.000 It's just a different intensity.

00:24:14.000 But, yeah, as long as I train for it, I'm cool.

00:24:18.000 I kind of, like...

00:24:20.000 Boxing has helped so much and I don't box because I think I'm a tough guy or I think I can you know beat people's asses or whatever it's really just for functionality like so I can play the drums the way I want to.

00:24:32.000 So you started doing it for that reason?

00:24:34.000 Well no I started when I knew my son was being born like when my girlfriend at the time was pregnant I woke up that morning, I ran to the freeway and back, like twice, and then I went and found a boxing gym.

00:24:47.000 I walked into Tin Goose.

00:24:48.000 I actually walked into John Bray's, who used to be Tyson's sparring partner.

00:24:54.000 And it was like 2005?

00:24:57.000 Yeah, no, 2003. And then I started boxing.

00:25:00.000 I just walked into 10 Goose and I started jump roping and hitting pads and I don't know, I just had this urge to want to like box and be better.

00:25:12.000 That's so interesting.

00:25:13.000 Just from knowing that you were going to be a dad.

00:25:15.000 I just wanted to be better.

00:25:17.000 Immediately, I just thought to myself I wanted a lifestyle change.

00:25:21.000 I needed to evolve and I needed to know how to protect this little human I was bringing into the world.

00:25:28.000 And I knew I needed to change my lifestyle because I was kind of out of control.

00:25:34.000 Wow.

00:25:34.000 It's an amazing thing that happens to you when you become a father.

00:25:38.000 It's a weird switch that goes off in your brain that you can't really describe to people that don't have kids.

00:25:43.000 Yeah, and it's even weirder when the switch doesn't go off.

00:25:47.000 So, like, you know, you see people who are horrible fathers or horrible parents, and I just don't get, like, how didn't that switch turn on for you?

00:25:55.000 Right, yeah.

00:25:56.000 Like, the ones who don't want to be around their kids freak me out the most.

00:26:00.000 Yeah.

00:26:00.000 They just don't want to be.

00:26:01.000 They just want to be away all the time.

00:26:03.000 I just don't get it.

00:26:04.000 Yeah.

00:26:04.000 I don't know why.

00:26:05.000 Yeah, I couldn't imagine.

00:26:07.000 But yeah, and now I love boxing.

00:26:09.000 It's one of my favorite things to do.

00:26:11.000 I've been doing Muay Thai a little bit more because I can kind of save my hands.

00:26:14.000 Yeah.

00:26:15.000 Because it's not good on my hands in any way, shape, or form.

00:26:18.000 How so?

00:26:19.000 Just the impact over and over again.

00:26:21.000 Are you getting your hands professionally wrapped?

00:26:23.000 Do you get them wrapped correctly?

00:26:24.000 Yeah.

00:26:25.000 But it still bothers you?

00:26:26.000 My knuckles hurt.

00:26:27.000 Really?

00:26:27.000 Yeah.

00:26:28.000 Are you using big, heavy gloves?

00:26:29.000 Yeah.

00:26:30.000 What ounce gloves are you using?

00:26:32.000 I think they're 14 ounce.

00:26:34.000 Maybe you should switch to like 18 or 20. Yeah.

00:26:37.000 Yeah.

00:26:37.000 Get a thicker padding in the front.

00:26:39.000 It'll protect your knuckles better and it even gives you a better workout really because you're pushing more weight.

00:26:43.000 A little heavier?

00:26:44.000 Yeah.

00:26:44.000 You're pushing more weight and you'll have more impact.

00:26:47.000 But another thing I would say is get a bag that's a water bag.

00:26:52.000 Water bags are fantastic.

00:26:54.000 Have you ever seen those before?

00:26:55.000 Oh yeah, I've seen them at the gym.

00:26:56.000 Yeah, they're awesome. 0.95

00:26:57.000 Yeah, you can fucking dig into those things and it's... 0.89

00:26:59.000 It's minimal impact, but you're still pushing the same amount of weight. 0.99

00:27:03.000 Throwing the punches, you can still explode with the same amount of force, but you're sinking into that bag.

00:27:09.000 A lot of people with tendinitis find that that's a way better option.

00:27:14.000 I have two bags out there.

00:27:16.000 One of them is a Fairtex bag.

00:27:18.000 And Fairtex makes a...

00:27:19.000 It's a Muay Thai bag, but it's softer.

00:27:22.000 And the other one's a monster bag.

00:27:24.000 The monster bag's, like, really hard.

00:27:26.000 Stiff, right?

00:27:26.000 Dense.

00:27:27.000 Dense as fuck. 1.00

00:27:28.000 So I like the combination of the two. 0.99

00:27:30.000 But the Fairtex one is good if I'm injured, if, like, my shoulders bother me or something like that.

00:27:34.000 I can dig into that bag, and it's not going to have the same jolt as, like, hitting something solid and hard.

00:27:40.000 So if you're having problems with your hands, that's what I would say.

00:27:42.000 Another thing you can do is...

00:27:44.000 They make wraps that are gel wraps.

00:27:46.000 You slide them on your hand almost like a glove.

00:27:48.000 Yeah, that's what he just told me about, one of the guys I train with.

00:27:50.000 Yeah, those are great.

00:27:52.000 Yeah.

00:27:52.000 And then that on top of the heavier glove, I bet it'll stop all the hand stuff.

00:27:56.000 Yeah, I'm gonna try that.

00:27:58.000 Yeah, he just told me about that.

00:27:59.000 That'll protect my knuckles a little bit more.

00:28:00.000 Because I find if I lift weights, I never get big, like I never look big, but I feel kind of stiff and just slow.

00:28:09.000 It's the worst feeling ever.

00:28:10.000 And I did it one time right before Torrid.

00:28:13.000 I was living in Chevy Hills for a little while and I was working out at a gym over there and it was all bodybuilder guys.

00:28:18.000 And I would train with one just to like be pushed.

00:28:21.000 And I got behind my kit and it was the worst feeling ever.

00:28:24.000 The worst.

00:28:25.000 I felt like I was in slow motion.

00:28:26.000 So I figured out like I need to train how I want to move when I'm actually playing the drums.

00:28:33.000 Weightlifting is fine, but you have to do it lightly.

00:28:36.000 The thing about weightlifting is people want to do it to failure all the time.

00:28:40.000 You know, do ten sets of this and five sets of that and go to failure every time.

00:28:44.000 Come on, push, push, push, push. 1.00

00:28:46.000 Don't do that.

00:28:47.000 You shouldn't do that.

00:28:48.000 I subscribe to the Pavel Tazzolini method.

00:28:53.000 He's a famous Russian kettlebell instructor, and his philosophy is that you should do more sets, but less repetition.

00:29:01.000 So, like, say if you could do a weight and you could lift it ten times.

00:29:04.000 Don't lift it ten times.

00:29:06.000 Lift it five.

00:29:07.000 If you lift it ten... 0.99

00:29:08.000 What the fuck's going on with my voice? 0.99

00:29:11.000 Let's talk about esophageal cancer. 0.99

00:29:14.000 My voice is rebelling.

00:29:16.000 But say if you could lift something ten times, lift it five times and just do more sets and give yourself a lot of time in between sets.

00:29:23.000 Because if you're training for strength...

00:29:26.000 You can do certain things, like kettlebells in specific, where it's strength, but it's also endurance.

00:29:31.000 But really, if you just want to do strength, the best way to do it is to do a short set of a few repetitions and then do multiple versions of that.

00:29:42.000 Like take a long time off, like five, ten minutes, and then do another five reps, five, ten minutes, do another five reps, and then do it again in a couple of days.

00:29:51.000 And then do it again.

00:29:52.000 Instead of like once a week where you just blow your body out and you're like...

00:29:55.000 Ah!

00:29:55.000 That feeling where you can barely move.

00:29:57.000 That's terrible.

00:29:59.000 It's not a smart way because you don't recover as well.

00:30:01.000 Yeah, and you end up getting hurt or having to take a day off.

00:30:04.000 You know what I started doing was with this one trainer named Don, we figured out kind of like a metronome workout.

00:30:11.000 So you're actually like a tempo workout where you're training to a tempo.

00:30:15.000 So you have to do high reps.

00:30:17.000 You'll stay to a minute and maybe the tempo is like...

00:30:22.000 You know what I mean?

00:30:23.000 So whatever, even if it's quick and you're not doing everything exactly technique-wise, really slow, it's kind of like making sure you stay up with the tempo, which I feel like really helped me with staying quick and fast with drums and more endurance, you know?

00:30:38.000 Yeah, that makes sense.

00:30:39.000 Is drumming a young man's game?

00:30:42.000 I mean, is it like athletics, where as you get older, drummers slow down?

00:30:47.000 I don't know.

00:30:48.000 I haven't.

00:30:48.000 I played just as wild as I did back in the day.

00:30:50.000 And how old are you now?

00:30:51.000 43. You look great.

00:30:53.000 Oh, thank you.

00:30:54.000 You don't look 43. Yeah, Max Weinberg told me one time, he watched me play, and he was at a show where Blink played, and he's like, I don't know how much longer you can play like that.

00:31:03.000 Because you fucking go hard, dude. 0.92

00:31:05.000 He's like, you're going to need back surgery. 1.00

00:31:07.000 You play like you have rabies. 1.00

00:31:08.000 You're just smashing the fucking drums. 1.00

00:31:11.000 So knock on wood, nothing has changed and I've just... 1.00

00:31:13.000 I play exactly how I always have, you know?

00:31:17.000 I don't even want to think about a day where I have to play any different.

00:31:19.000 Right.

00:31:20.000 Sure, it'll come, but...

00:31:21.000 Do you get massages?

00:31:22.000 Yes.

00:31:23.000 That'll help a lot, right?

00:31:25.000 Massages, Epsom salt baths.

00:31:29.000 That's where the tank comes in play, man.

00:31:30.000 Yeah, that thing looks amazing.

00:31:32.000 The tank is all ebbs and salt.

00:31:33.000 Look at you, dude. 1.00

00:31:34.000 You're going fucking crazy. 1.00

00:31:37.000 When you watch that, I would watch you play, and I would just go, how the fuck can this guy maintain this pace? 1.00

00:31:44.000 Because everybody drums differently. 0.91

00:31:46.000 It's really interesting to watch people's different...

00:31:49.000 Especially my friend Bill Burr really got into drumming.

00:31:53.000 He's really into it.

00:31:55.000 I like watching him play.

00:31:56.000 It's interesting to see someone take something up and get better and take lessons and learn it.

00:32:01.000 But the thing that really strikes me is how many repetitions are involved. 0.98

00:32:06.000 As you're doing this, the amount of times you're hitting these drums is fucking insanity. 0.98

00:32:13.000 You've got to pace yourself. 0.95

00:32:14.000 If it's a two-hour set, I know like, oh, this is a verse of this song.

00:32:18.000 I can kind of...

00:32:19.000 This is not a big, big part.

00:32:21.000 You know, you can kind of chill, but it's like a round, you know?

00:32:23.000 If you're doing a round, look up in the clock and you realize, oh, wow, I still have two minutes left.

00:32:28.000 Well, pace yourself and...

00:32:30.000 You know what I mean?

00:32:30.000 That's kind of how I approach shows.

00:32:32.000 But the goal is to train so much before you even get on tour that you're not even having to think about that.

00:32:38.000 You're just playing the show exactly how you want to play.

00:32:41.000 I imagine it's like that with fighting where you envision what you want to do in your head and you're in the shape and you know the technique to execute.

00:32:50.000 You don't have to think about it or go like, oh, I can't do that.

00:32:53.000 I didn't practice that enough.

00:32:54.000 I like to be able to just do whatever I'm feeling and not be like... 0.99

00:32:59.000 Shit, I don't know how to do that. 0.95

00:33:01.000 Or, I'm going to get tired if I do that. 0.99

00:33:03.000 I don't want that to happen.

00:33:05.000 So that's the goal.

00:33:06.000 It's just being able to execute what you have the idea in your head.

00:33:10.000 Well, musicians have to have discipline.

00:33:13.000 Because you have to practice.

00:33:15.000 One of the things that makes you guys so unique in the entertainment world.

00:33:20.000 I guess maybe actors have to practice.

00:33:23.000 Stand-up comedians, we only practice in front of an audience. 0.99

00:33:26.000 But you guys have to fucking practice. 0.99

00:33:29.000 So you don't go through your show? 0.99

00:33:30.000 No.

00:33:31.000 Before you go out?

00:33:32.000 No, I write.

00:33:33.000 I write and I listen to recordings of old sets, but I don't sit in front of a mirror and go, hey folks!

00:33:40.000 Yeah.

00:33:41.000 I don't do that.

00:33:42.000 I don't know anybody that does that.

00:33:43.000 Because it would feel so weird when you go up to do it.

00:33:44.000 It would feel rehearsed, right?

00:33:46.000 Yeah.

00:33:46.000 Yeah, that's the last thing you want.

00:33:48.000 You gotta be in the moment.

00:33:49.000 Same thing happens if you practice too much as a band and then you go try to play those songs and act like you're having fun, that same thing happens.

00:33:56.000 So I try to practice a lot on my own and I'm not even practicing those songs, just kind of...

00:34:02.000 Just drill, you know?

00:34:03.000 Yeah.

00:34:04.000 Sam Kinison used to have a joke about the Beach Boys, about they're going out there playing I Wish They Could All Be California Girls again. 0.99

00:34:12.000 I'm like, Jesus fucking Christ. 0.99

00:34:14.000 I wish they all could... 1.00

00:34:16.000 It becomes a job.

00:34:18.000 You don't want that.

00:34:18.000 You want it to be fresh and exciting, and you want it to be something that you're really in the moment and really thinking about.

00:34:23.000 So I make up new shit on the spot, too. 0.98

00:34:25.000 That's the best. 0.98

00:34:26.000 I just make up new fills or just try to reinvent the songs to the point where even Mark will look back at me and be like, whoa!

00:34:33.000 You know what I mean?

00:34:34.000 Whatever.

00:34:34.000 That's the best.

00:34:36.000 Just kind of freaking it on the fly.

00:34:39.000 And even to the crowd, it's like, whoa, that's cool.

00:34:42.000 You haven't heard that before.

00:34:44.000 So that's like after two or three months of being on tour, you do stuff like that.

00:34:48.000 Yeah, when you get off tour, do you consciously give yourself a rest?

00:34:55.000 No.

00:34:55.000 I'm busier at home than I am on tour.

00:34:57.000 On tour is so lavish, man.

00:34:59.000 You have someone saying...

00:35:01.000 I mean, you do have people kind of waiting on you hand and foot somewhat.

00:35:06.000 Like, hey, catering's ready if you want to eat.

00:35:09.000 Or, hey, you got to go do an interview 30 minutes before you go on stage.

00:35:14.000 Cars outside waiting for you after the show, taking you to the hotel.

00:35:17.000 So that doesn't happen at home.

00:35:19.000 Right.

00:35:20.000 And at home...

00:35:21.000 I do so many other things besides playing the band.

00:35:23.000 I produce a bunch of rap artists.

00:35:26.000 I have Crossroads.

00:35:28.000 I have clothing companies.

00:35:29.000 I have three kids.

00:35:30.000 It's way busier at home.

00:35:32.000 Tour is a vacation.

00:35:35.000 That's interesting.

00:35:36.000 Yeah, for me.

00:35:37.000 Wow.

00:35:38.000 Because I don't know how to say no either.

00:35:39.000 Mind you, I have a lot of things I love that I love doing, so I can't complain and be like, oh, I hate going to this theater.

00:35:44.000 I hate doing this.

00:35:45.000 I love it all.

00:35:46.000 I just kind of love it all so much that I have trouble saying no sometimes.

00:35:52.000 So, you said you're managing or you're producing rap artists?

00:35:57.000 Yeah.

00:35:57.000 How many?

00:35:59.000 I'm in the studio right now with this group called Suicide Boys, who are awesome.

00:36:03.000 They're from New Orleans.

00:36:04.000 And we have an EP coming out that's called Live Fast, Die Whenever.

00:36:09.000 And we just finished over the weekend, or yesterday.

00:36:14.000 So you go in there at noon and you leave there at 4 in the morning every day until you're finished, because they're only in town for a little while.

00:36:22.000 So, yeah, it takes a little bit.

00:36:24.000 And then I worked on XXXTentacion's album before he passed away.

00:36:30.000 I worked with Smokepurpp, Vic Menza, a bunch of different artists.

00:36:36.000 Do you like that because it's a different genre?

00:36:39.000 It helps you mix it up a little bit?

00:36:41.000 Are you just a big rap fan as well?

00:36:42.000 Obviously, you're wearing an Ice Cube shirt.

00:36:44.000 Yeah, I grew up...

00:36:45.000 I actually listened to rap music before I listened to any kind of music at all.

00:36:49.000 Like Beastie Boys and Run DMC and Public Enemy and The Far Side and KRS-One.

00:36:55.000 That's what I grew up on.

00:36:56.000 And then I discovered...

00:36:58.000 I loved metal too.

00:36:59.000 I loved Slayer and King Diamond.

00:37:00.000 And then I discovered a band called Minor Threat and The Descendants and Black Flag and Bad Brains.

00:37:07.000 And I just liked it all.

00:37:08.000 And then my dad listened to jazz music and country rebel music.

00:37:11.000 So I was born and raised on like Johnny Cash and Buck Owens and...

00:37:15.000 Everything.

00:37:17.000 And I kind of learned to love it all.

00:37:19.000 And I had people around me when I was young, when I was first learning how to read music, that just kept embedding in my head, like, you gotta listen to everything.

00:37:26.000 You can't just learn one thing.

00:37:29.000 So I was actually taught how to play traditional jazz when I was really young.

00:37:33.000 And then I taught myself how to play everything else. 0.99

00:37:36.000 That's fucking cool. 0.83

00:37:38.000 Yeah, but I always loved everything. 0.97

00:37:39.000 That's nice that you have an appreciation for all those different genres, too.

00:37:43.000 Yeah, it'd be like if all you did was UFC commentating, you'd be like, I'm gonna go crazy.

00:37:48.000 Right.

00:37:49.000 Like, this must be so much fun for you and all of your other endeavors.

00:37:52.000 Like, same thing.

00:37:53.000 Like, if I was only making, you know, punk rock records or pop punk records or whatever it was, I think I would go insane.

00:38:00.000 And it's been like that for years, you know?

00:38:03.000 Yeah, I think different people... 1.00

00:38:05.000 I think some people, if they're just doing baseball commentary or something like that, they're fucking happy as shit. 0.98

00:38:10.000 They love it and they just want to do that. 0.98

00:38:12.000 But there's some people like you or maybe like me that I need different things.

00:38:16.000 I will go crazy.

00:38:18.000 I love like...

00:38:19.000 Studio life is awesome.

00:38:21.000 I did a Hans Zimmer thing the other week, and then the next day I'm in with a band called Nothing Nowhere doing something completely different.

00:38:27.000 This week I'm doing a Lil Peep and XXX remix.

00:38:32.000 It has to be like that for me.

00:38:34.000 I get really bored, and I just don't feel creative.

00:38:37.000 I feel kind of like, I don't know.

00:38:39.000 That's cool, though.

00:38:40.000 I don't like that.

00:38:40.000 How does that work?

00:38:41.000 Like you get a phone call or someone texts you, hey Travis, we need you to come in here and light this motherfucker on fire and you get in there and... 0.99

00:38:48.000 Yeah, it's been like that, you know? 0.94

00:38:50.000 Or like, you know, some projects manifested too, like there's this band called The Fever 333 that I produce and write with and they just got nominated for a Grammy, like threw up for a Grammy for Best Rock Performance.

00:39:04.000 And that was something I just envisioned with the singer of that band, Jason.

00:39:07.000 And we started literally a year ago, and they're nominated for a Grammy.

00:39:13.000 Wow.

00:39:13.000 So, like, stuff like that, like, kind of being in architecture without building buildings, you know, being in architecture and music, or whatever it is, whatever it is you're passionate about, that excites me.

00:39:23.000 You're just building sound.

00:39:24.000 Yeah.

00:39:25.000 Like, there's nothing better.

00:39:26.000 And working with different genres, too, has got to be exciting, too, because you can mix it up and...

00:39:52.000 Yeah.

00:39:53.000 Yeah.

00:39:54.000 Well, my kids come first before everything, anything, you know?

00:39:58.000 And then I get a lot of opportunities.

00:40:00.000 Like, my son Landon is a big rap fan.

00:40:03.000 Like, he loves rap.

00:40:04.000 He was raised on rap music.

00:40:05.000 Like, he grew up touring with me and Lil Wayne when I toured with Lil Wayne.

00:40:09.000 And he loves being in the studio.

00:40:11.000 So he'll come with me to the studio so I can kind of, like, double dip work at the same time as he's in B making music.

00:40:18.000 Wow.

00:40:18.000 You know, my studio B. Which is really, really awesome.

00:40:21.000 And then...

00:40:22.000 Same with Alabama. 1.00

00:40:24.000 I'm lucky they're both musicians, because Alabama and Landon both love music, so they like going on tour with me.

00:40:30.000 Oh, that's amazing.

00:40:31.000 Yeah, or I probably wouldn't be working so much.

00:40:34.000 That's really cool.

00:40:35.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:40:36.000 What the fuck is it like going on tour with Lil Wayne? 0.97

00:40:39.000 It was so awesome. 0.99

00:40:40.000 I came out with a rap project where I produced, I made all the beats and I just got all my favorite rappers.

00:40:46.000 Everyone from like RZA from the Wu-Tang Clan to Lil Wayne, Games, Swizz Beats.

00:40:53.000 It was crazy.

00:40:54.000 I think I had 30 guests on there and Wayne asked me to go out on tour with him.

00:40:59.000 So me and Mixmaster Mike from the Beasties were like the opening act on that tour and Drake was out there, Nicki Minaj and Rick Ross.

00:41:07.000 Wow!

00:41:08.000 It was so fun.

00:41:09.000 So I loaded up the bus with everyone.

00:41:11.000 I brought Yellow Wolf out.

00:41:12.000 I brought J-Rock. 0.54

00:41:14.000 I brought Paul Wall.

00:41:15.000 I brought the cool kids.

00:41:16.000 And we just got in the bus and we went on tour.

00:41:18.000 Jesus Christ.

00:41:19.000 It was the best.

00:41:19.000 Yeah.

00:41:20.000 How long are those shows?

00:41:21.000 All those people?

00:41:22.000 How long is that show?

00:41:23.000 That's like a, well, with all the acts, at least four hours.

00:41:27.000 Yeah, it's a long one.

00:41:28.000 But it was so fun. 0.99

00:41:30.000 By the time the fucking show's over, like, good lord, that audience must be beaten into a coma. 0.99

00:41:33.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99

00:41:34.000 But then the headliners on, who they're really there to see.

00:41:37.000 Right, right.

00:41:37.000 But that was a big accomplishment, just being able to play in that genre of music, because I listened to it as a kid, but there's never really been a home for a live drummer in a rap scenario.

00:41:49.000 Right.

00:41:50.000 So, from the beginning, I think, I don't even know what year it was when Puff called me.

00:41:56.000 When I had just joined Blink, and he's like, yo, I want you to be in this video.

00:41:59.000 And I was like, what?

00:42:00.000 Like, you know what I mean?

00:42:01.000 Because I pretty much was, I was just like, wow, I'm in one of the biggest, you know, bands in the world.

00:42:07.000 I'm so stoked.

00:42:07.000 I couldn't ask for anything more.

00:42:09.000 And I always wanted to, yeah.

00:42:12.000 Can the drummer get something?

00:42:13.000 That tour was so fun.

00:42:15.000 But yeah, once Puff asked me to be in a video, it was kind of like a, it just snowballed from there.

00:42:21.000 You just got into that world.

00:42:22.000 Yeah, and I had no idea why he wanted me, you know, but I was just like, wow, this is so cool because I grew up on Big E, like, I loved all that genre of music, but I was okay with just staying in my lane as well.

00:42:34.000 But when I got accepted with, like, Open Arms and I was invited to do, like, BET Awards with TI or Tyga or Wayne, it was just insane, you know, playing the Grammys.

00:42:45.000 The funny thing is I've never played the Grammys with Blink, but I've played the Grammys with...

00:42:49.000 Like Pitbull, Drake, Eminem.

00:42:53.000 It's so weird.

00:42:54.000 It's so weird to me.

00:42:55.000 I just feel it's a trip.

00:42:57.000 The opportunities I've had outside of rock music have been such blessings.

00:43:01.000 When you say all these things and you know that you did all these things, does it almost seem like you're living in a dream?

00:43:05.000 Yeah, I feel like smacking myself.

00:43:07.000 It doesn't feel real.

00:43:08.000 When people go like, oh, who would you like to collaborate with?

00:43:11.000 I feel like I'm so spoiled, and I've been so blessed to play with all these musicians I love.

00:43:18.000 I just say nobody.

00:43:19.000 You know, whatever comes, I'm happy with.

00:43:21.000 Wow.

00:43:22.000 Yeah.

00:43:23.000 Well, that's cool, though.

00:43:24.000 That's great, man.

00:43:25.000 That means you're fulfilled.

00:43:27.000 Yeah.

00:43:27.000 You know?

00:43:29.000 You're doing what you want to do.

00:43:30.000 Like, you're ready.

00:43:31.000 Totally.

00:43:32.000 Whoever.

00:43:32.000 Let's do it.

00:43:33.000 Yeah.

00:43:34.000 If you wanted to make a record, Joe, I'd be there.

00:43:36.000 You know what I mean?

00:43:36.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:43:38.000 Well, lucky for you, I'm totally talentless in the music department, so it's not going to happen.

00:43:43.000 Nah, you're such a talent, man.

00:43:44.000 I love, like, when you and Dominic Cruz are commentating together, it doesn't get any better.

00:43:49.000 Yeah, I love Dom.

00:43:49.000 He's awesome.

00:43:50.000 He beat the shit out of me a couple times.

00:43:54.000 Why did you let him? 0.79

00:43:55.000 Well, because he, you know, we used to sponsor him a little bit, like with Famous.

00:43:59.000 Like, you know, he used to walk out in Famous stuff, like when UFC wasn't, they didn't have Reebok gear.

00:44:04.000 And he would come down and train.

00:44:06.000 Because I would train with this one guy, Josh, over here in Woodland Hills.

00:44:10.000 And he said, Trav, I'm going to be in town.

00:44:11.000 I'm going to come train with you.

00:44:12.000 I was like, okay, cool.

00:44:13.000 Little did I know it would be Dom tossing me around.

00:44:17.000 Oh my gosh, man.

00:44:18.000 It was so difficult.

00:44:20.000 Does he make you roll with him?

00:44:22.000 Well, no.

00:44:23.000 He'd be like, try to sleep me.

00:44:25.000 Like, try to knock me out.

00:44:26.000 Jesus.

00:44:26.000 So I'm giving my all.

00:44:28.000 And he's just using his defense?

00:44:29.000 And you know, when you actually swing in the air and you're not landing, it's actually more tiresome than when you're hitting somebody.

00:44:35.000 So I'm swinging in the air.

00:44:37.000 He's, like, on the side of me all of a sudden.

00:44:39.000 Like, you know, he's so quick, like, with footwork.

00:44:42.000 And then I'm wrestling to the ground.

00:44:43.000 And it's just a wrap every time, man.

00:44:45.000 He's so, so talented.

00:44:47.000 So, yeah, man.

00:44:48.000 I love that guy.

00:44:49.000 His footwork is preposterous.

00:44:50.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:44:50.000 He just has the most ridiculous footwork. 1.00

00:44:52.000 His footwork is so unique to him, too. 0.99

00:44:55.000 Everything he does, he's got this weird herky-jerky little thing. 1.00

00:44:58.000 He's probably one of the most unique MMA fighters ever.

00:45:01.000 I feel like a lot of people have kind of borrowed from his style, too.

00:45:05.000 Oh, for sure.

00:45:06.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:45:07.000 And not to say they didn't make it their own, but I feel like Dom was the first one you saw...

00:45:12.000 Unquestionably.

00:45:13.000 And that's because of his intelligence.

00:45:14.000 Because he doesn't like getting hit.

00:45:16.000 He's like, okay, I've got to figure out a way to not get hit so much.

00:45:18.000 What's the best way to not get hit?

00:45:20.000 And he just came up with this very unorthodox way of moving.

00:45:24.000 He's a real encyclopedia of information when you start talking to him about fighting.

00:45:28.000 I really enjoy doing commentary with him because he's so insightful.

00:45:32.000 He's so good at pointing out little areas where he thinks people are making mistakes or how to capitalize on certain things that people are doing.

00:45:40.000 Yeah, I've watched fights with him before, and he gives a different insight than what I'm seeing.

00:45:45.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:45:46.000 No, he's great, especially when it comes to wrestling, clinch work, and even weird striking techniques.

00:45:54.000 He's so good at befuddling people that he fights with, with movement and information.

00:46:00.000 He's giving them looks, and they're trying to set up. 0.96

00:46:04.000 You know, and they're standing there trying to set up, and they don't know what the fuck he's doing, and they have to reset.

00:46:08.000 And they're trying again, and then he's giving them a different look, and he's standing over here, and then he's in front of you with his hands down, and then he's not.

00:46:15.000 Yeah.

00:46:16.000 Yeah, it's a trip.

00:46:17.000 He's great. 0.99

00:46:18.000 Just fucked up his shoulder again, man. 1.00

00:46:20.000 I know, man. 0.99

00:46:20.000 I think he trains so much. 0.99

00:46:22.000 I feel like he just, you know, he's obsessive.

00:46:25.000 Yeah, he's a savage.

00:46:26.000 I mean, he got back from knee surgery and he went so hard that he gave himself plantar fasciitis. 0.99

00:46:33.000 So he fucked up the bottom of his feet from running and sprinting and doing all kinds of crazy shit to get in shape. 0.96

00:46:39.000 And, you know, he got over that. 0.98

00:46:41.000 I mean, he's had so many different surgeries.

00:46:44.000 And that's miserable.

00:46:45.000 Have you had that?

00:46:46.000 No, I've never had plantar.

00:46:47.000 Oh, man.

00:46:48.000 I had it on a tour where I would...

00:46:49.000 I'd get these weird kind of things where I have to do a certain thing before I go on stage.

00:46:54.000 So one of the things I did on a tour that was, I don't know, it was about a four-month tour, is run four to five miles before the show.

00:47:01.000 And by the middle of that tour, I had actually given myself a stress fracture in my foot.

00:47:06.000 It was terrible.

00:47:07.000 Did you run on concrete?

00:47:09.000 Not on a treadmill.

00:47:11.000 Really?

00:47:11.000 Yeah.

00:47:12.000 Wow. 1.00

00:47:12.000 Damn, dude. 1.00

00:47:13.000 Well, sometimes when there was no treadmill, I'd just run out on the street. 0.99

00:47:17.000 But I kind of get like that where I just like, I don't know, I get obsessive about stuff and I want to do it.

00:47:24.000 I throw myself all the way in.

00:47:27.000 What kind of running shoes do you run with?

00:47:28.000 Do you run with...

00:47:29.000 I was running, like, honestly, on that tour, sometimes I'd run in vans, which is probably half of my problem.

00:47:34.000 But, you know, it'd be so quick, like, oh, I have an hour here to do this.

00:47:37.000 But, yeah, it wasn't fun, though.

00:47:41.000 It was painful.

00:47:42.000 Yeah, when you have overuse injuries, those are some of the hardest, especially your feet.

00:47:47.000 They're some of the hardest to recover from because you have to walk.

00:47:49.000 It's not like if you hurt your elbow, you could just not use it for a while.

00:47:52.000 Yeah.

00:47:53.000 And it'll eventually heal up, but you need to use your feet.

00:47:56.000 Yeah.

00:47:57.000 Yeah.

00:47:57.000 Planner's a rough one, man.

00:47:58.000 I know a lot of people that have got that.

00:48:00.000 I've been very lucky.

00:48:01.000 I came from a martial arts background, a lot of kicking and stuff like that, so my feet are pretty strong from moving, but...

00:48:08.000 I found that running with minimalist shoes on hills, that made them even stronger.

00:48:12.000 Yoga made them stronger.

00:48:14.000 Like what?

00:48:15.000 Those weird kind of, what are they called?

00:48:17.000 Vibram five-finger shoes.

00:48:18.000 I wear those.

00:48:19.000 There's another company called Vivo Barefoot.

00:48:21.000 I wear those. 0.96

00:48:22.000 I like those a little bit better for running on the hills because I'm running on a lot of rocks and shit. 0.97

00:48:27.000 And the Vibrams, they would be great if everything was soft dirt. 0.98

00:48:30.000 But I'm running on weird, jagged rocks and shit. 0.98

00:48:33.000 And it just, it hurts your feet. 0.88

00:48:35.000 You gotta be real careful where you place your feet.

00:48:40.000 Right.

00:48:43.000 Right.

00:48:47.000 Right.

00:49:00.000 Then you should run because it's more comfortable to run with a big fat cushion.

00:49:05.000 I think you ultimately give yourself probably more injuries that way.

00:49:09.000 But you can get injuries from those minimalist shoes too if you don't pay close attention.

00:49:14.000 You try too hard, too quick.

00:49:16.000 Your foot's not conditioned for it.

00:49:18.000 My feet are terrible too, man.

00:49:19.000 I had what was called a Liz Frank fracture.

00:49:21.000 Have you ever heard of that?

00:49:22.000 It's basically your foot breaks in half.

00:49:25.000 All your tendons, your ligaments, and your bones. 0.99

00:49:29.000 How the fuck did you do that? 0.97

00:49:31.000 So I was high as a kite and I was in Australia and I was running to the bus and I had like two huge bags that were like probably like I probably had 40 pounds on my back and I was just trying to get to the bus to get to the next show or whatever and it was the the stupidest thing ever but it was a little like you know the little cracks in the sidewalk where it's up higher and I didn't see and I fell with all that weight on me and I'm in the bus And I'm starting to think, 0.99

00:49:55.000 wow, this is really bad.

00:49:56.000 And my tour manager's like, hey man, just get the blood flowing, try walking on it. 0.71

00:50:00.000 And I'm trying to just suck it up, and I'm walking in the airport, and I'm like, almost like tearing, like I'm fucking hurting so bad.

00:50:07.000 And I was like, man, I think I need to get an x-ray or like an MRI. This isn't good. 0.79

00:50:13.000 So I play like the next two shows with my other foot.

00:50:16.000 I get an x-ray.

00:50:17.000 They say I've broken my foot in half.

00:50:19.000 I need surgery.

00:50:21.000 So I, um...

00:50:22.000 I think I ended up doing a couple weeks of the tour, which I shouldn't have.

00:50:26.000 I should have gone and done that surgery.

00:50:27.000 But I played it with my other foot, and then I got home.

00:50:30.000 I did the surgery, and I was like six months on crutches and just recovering.

00:50:35.000 It was terrible.

00:50:36.000 Six months on crutches?

00:50:38.000 Yeah.

00:50:39.000 And then I feel like I wasn't healing that great because I was taking so many painkillers and everything.

00:50:43.000 It was slowing down the process, which I don't know if you've heard of, but my bones became super brittle.

00:50:50.000 From painkillers?

00:50:51.000 From painkillers.

00:50:52.000 What painkillers?

00:50:54.000 Norcos.

00:50:54.000 Yeah?

00:50:55.000 Yeah.

00:50:57.000 Ugh.

00:50:57.000 Yeah.

00:50:58.000 But I would imagine the pain must have been fucking excruciating. 0.98

00:51:02.000 Snapping your foot in half? 0.99

00:51:03.000 Oh, it was so painful.

00:51:04.000 Yeah, when it first happened.

00:51:05.000 Did you use something else for pain medication after you got off of that stuff?

00:51:09.000 I just smoked weed.

00:51:10.000 Yeah?

00:51:10.000 Yeah.

00:51:11.000 Is that enough?

00:51:11.000 Yeah.

00:51:12.000 I'm pretty good with pain.

00:51:14.000 It doesn't really bug me.

00:51:16.000 What about edibles?

00:51:19.000 I haven't really done it. 0.99

00:51:20.000 You don't fuck with edibles? 0.99

00:51:21.000 Really? 1.00

00:51:22.000 I haven't had anything for 10 years.

00:51:25.000 Nothing?

00:51:26.000 Nothing.

00:51:26.000 Zero.

00:51:27.000 No alcohol, no weed, no nothing. 1.00

00:51:29.000 Damn. 1.00

00:51:30.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:51:30.000 10 years. 1.00

00:51:31.000 Which was a big...

00:51:31.000 Well, after my accident as well, I was fed, you know, four months in a hospital, being fed morphine every day for four months, and then being on all these bipolar meds and everything else.

00:51:43.000 I honestly didn't want to put anything in my body when I got out.

00:51:46.000 I didn't even take painkillers when I got home.

00:51:49.000 Now, what kind of bipolar meds they put you on?

00:51:51.000 Dude, I don't even remember.

00:51:53.000 I was on like four or five, just bipolar.

00:51:56.000 I mean, I had so many.

00:51:59.000 I probably had like 12 medications I got sent home with.

00:52:01.000 And I did it for about a week or two, and then I went and see my doctor.

00:52:05.000 I'd actually overheard one of my friends talking.

00:52:08.000 Who was like a brother to me.

00:52:10.000 And I had heard him talking to someone else.

00:52:11.000 And he was like, yo, Travis seems a little different.

00:52:15.000 He seems a little bit slow or something.

00:52:18.000 And I had overheard him.

00:52:20.000 He didn't know I overheard him.

00:52:21.000 But these meds, I had been telling my docs, too.

00:52:25.000 I was like, I just don't feel like me.

00:52:26.000 I don't know.

00:52:27.000 I feel weird.

00:52:28.000 And I just don't feel like myself.

00:52:30.000 So I just flushed him down the toilet one day.

00:52:32.000 And the next week, I came back to see him.

00:52:33.000 And he's like, how are you doing?

00:52:34.000 I said, good.

00:52:34.000 I'm offline.

00:52:48.000 So they wanted to put you on because of the plane crash?

00:52:51.000 Yeah, they're like, don't shame yourself by giving yourself a hard time that you have to take these pills.

00:52:57.000 And I said, well, honestly, I don't feel like they're doing what they're supposed to for me, and they're actually having a negative effect on me, so I really don't want to take them.

00:53:05.000 They also told me I'd never run again, I'd never do this, I'd never do that again.

00:53:09.000 So I think I just got to the point where I was like...

00:53:12.000 Let me see how many things I can prove otherwise that they've told me, you know, once I stop taking the pills.

00:53:18.000 Jesus, so they put you on bipolar medication because of a traumatic crash.

00:53:23.000 Yeah.

00:53:23.000 That seems odd to me.

00:53:25.000 I mean, I'm not a doctor, obviously, but...

00:53:27.000 Well, I was kind of crazy.

00:53:29.000 You know, I was like suicidal.

00:53:31.000 When I was in the hospital, I was on so many drugs, I couldn't even, I didn't even know my friends had passed away.

00:53:38.000 I didn't even know the two pilots had passed away.

00:53:41.000 I didn't remember anything.

00:53:42.000 I kept thinking like everyone was in the hospital, including the two pilots, including my two best friends and A.M. I thought everyone was just in different rooms, until about two weeks before I left.

00:53:54.000 Wow.

00:53:54.000 And then I went crazy.

00:53:56.000 Then it was like they had a 5150 case on their hands.

00:54:00.000 I wasn't in a good place.

00:54:03.000 Then I did a lot of post-traumatic therapy when I was in the hospital to calm things down once I got through all my surgeries.

00:54:15.000 Over time, it was cool.

00:54:17.000 It was never cool, but I started to feel better.

00:54:22.000 But yeah, I think it was because I was so crazy at the time.

00:54:26.000 It's interesting that I would think that bipolar medication would be something that you would give someone who has a condition that just is sort of predisposed to it.

00:54:40.000 I don't know anything about bipolar, but...

00:54:42.000 I would think that that's something that you just have, you know? 0.75

00:54:45.000 It's like you have a mental condition.

00:54:47.000 I wouldn't think that it would be something that they would give you to overcome a traumatic incident.

00:54:52.000 Yeah, I think they were afraid I was gonna be...

00:54:55.000 I had like a mental condition after everything happened, you know?

00:54:58.000 Do you think they think like maybe because you're an artist that you're probably a little crazy anyway?

00:55:02.000 Possibly.

00:55:03.000 Yeah, I mean like I think...

00:55:05.000 But I was a mess, too.

00:55:06.000 I had smoked so much weed every day, and I'd taken so many pills, and I would self-medicate quite a bit, that I woke up, probably out of 11 of my 30 surgeries I had in the burn center, I woke up swinging on doctors.

00:55:22.000 Because I would wake up, and I'd be opened up, and I would just go crazy.

00:55:28.000 Jesus Christ.

00:55:28.000 Were you just trying to get off the table?

00:55:30.000 Yeah, I would just try to get off the table.

00:55:31.000 I don't even think I really knew what was going on.

00:55:34.000 I just wasn't.

00:55:35.000 They couldn't give me enough medication to knock me out because I had been self-medicating for so long and abusing meds for so long.

00:55:42.000 Wow.

00:55:43.000 So you would get up from anesthesia?

00:55:45.000 Yeah.

00:55:45.000 You would just wake up?

00:55:46.000 In the middle of anesthesia. 1.00

00:55:47.000 Fuck. 1.00

00:55:48.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:55:49.000 So, yeah, that was a problem.

00:55:54.000 How did you clean up?

00:55:57.000 I think after...

00:55:59.000 I think the last time I swung on a doctor, they were kind of like, you can't be here no more.

00:56:05.000 And then I was like, wow, well, I need...

00:56:08.000 X amount of more surgeries.

00:56:10.000 I really was just fighting demons.

00:56:13.000 I just figured out my two best friends had passed away and the pilots had passed away.

00:56:18.000 I was just in an ugly place.

00:56:21.000 My kids couldn't come visit me because...

00:56:25.000 65% of my body was burnt, so I couldn't be around people.

00:56:27.000 So I was just in it, man.

00:56:29.000 And then I just, I don't know, I turned a corner.

00:56:33.000 And then I was like a team player.

00:56:35.000 And I don't think I was on as many meds.

00:56:37.000 Most of my surgeries were over.

00:56:39.000 And just learning how to walk again.

00:56:42.000 Being able to take a shower by myself again.

00:56:45.000 All that stuff, man.

00:56:46.000 I think that was just...

00:56:47.000 Those were the good points that helped me turn the corner.

00:56:50.000 And I don't know, I just had more strength, you know?

00:56:52.000 Yeah.

00:56:52.000 So...

00:56:53.000 Wow.

00:56:54.000 So you just turned a corner in your mind and just sort of accepted it?

00:56:58.000 Yeah.

00:56:59.000 Same with drugs.

00:57:00.000 I didn't ever do rehab or anything.

00:57:02.000 I think it was mainly my kids and just second chance at life was enough for me.

00:57:08.000 I was like, I never want to do any of that stuff again.

00:57:11.000 That's cool.

00:57:12.000 So once you get a certain amount of distance between you and those days, does it seem like it wasn't even real?

00:57:19.000 It wasn't you doing those things?

00:57:21.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:57:21.000 You look back and you're just like, fuck. 1.00

00:57:24.000 I still talk to those doctors to this day. 1.00

00:57:26.000 Dr. Grossman, he's so awesome.

00:57:30.000 He basically saved my life.

00:57:33.000 But I still talk to him.

00:57:34.000 He lives out here in the valley.

00:57:36.000 He has Grossman Burn Center.

00:57:37.000 I go over there at Christmas and see burn victims that are over there in the burn center and help out any way I can.

00:57:45.000 That's cool, man.

00:57:46.000 That's really cool.

00:57:48.000 Yeah, many of my friends that I know that had real bad drug problems and then now are off drugs, they look back and they go, what? 0.98

00:57:57.000 What the fuck was I doing? 0.82

00:57:58.000 How was that me? 1.00

00:58:00.000 Yeah.

00:58:00.000 It's interesting how that happens in your life.

00:58:03.000 You have these new chapters in your life.

00:58:05.000 And sometimes it could just be something that happened like two weeks ago. 0.99

00:58:09.000 And you're like, who the fuck was that guy two weeks ago? 0.98

00:58:12.000 I'm not even him anymore. 0.98

00:58:14.000 Sometimes people make these abrupt turns in their life and then they go, yeah, I'm never going back.

00:58:20.000 And you go, well, we'll see.

00:58:21.000 And then you look ten years later like, wow, you were right.

00:58:24.000 You never went back.

00:58:25.000 Yeah.

00:58:26.000 Yeah, and I think like, I still have, have you ever heard of what's called like user dreams?

00:58:30.000 No. 0.77

00:58:30.000 Where like, I think I've fucked up and I'm smoking weed again. 0.77

00:58:33.000 And then I wake up and I'm like, oh my God, how am I going to stop? 0.76

00:58:36.000 Because I love, I love smoking so much, you know, or whatever your vice was, you know, if it was like, whatever it was, you know, yeah, you're just like, you wake up and you think you're doing it again.

00:58:45.000 And then you realize, nah, I'm all good.

00:58:48.000 I used to have dreams like that where I had to go back to high school.

00:58:50.000 Really?

00:58:50.000 I used to have dreams for years, man.

00:58:53.000 Did you hate high school? 0.99

00:58:54.000 Fucking hated it. 0.99

00:58:55.000 Me too. 0.99

00:58:56.000 I don't think anyone likes it. 0.99

00:58:57.000 Unless you're like, you know, soon to be a professor or fucking doctor or something. 0.97

00:59:02.000 Well, I just had no idea what I wanted to do for a living. 0.98

00:59:05.000 And I was just like...

00:59:08.000 Yeah.

00:59:11.000 Yeah.

00:59:17.000 Yeah.

00:59:26.000 Take these.

00:59:27.000 Take these.

00:59:28.000 Whatever you're doing, it's bad. 0.98

00:59:29.000 But when I was in high school, I fucking hated it and I barely got by. 0.86

00:59:33.000 And then when I got out of high school, I would have these dreams where I would wake up in the middle of the night and I didn't have enough credits to graduate and have to go back. 0.98

00:59:41.000 And then I was sitting there in my bed before I woke up trying to decide whether or not I was just going to fucking drop out. 0.98

00:59:49.000 And not graduate from high school, not have a high school diploma, or go back and do another fucking year of hell. 0.98

00:59:57.000 And my guts would turn, then I'd wake up and be like, oh my god, I graduated. 0.99

01:00:00.000 I graduated.

01:00:01.000 Yeah.

01:00:03.000 Yeah, it was the worst.

01:00:04.000 I was the same way, man.

01:00:05.000 I just barely got by high school.

01:00:08.000 Did you go to school out here?

01:00:09.000 Well, I grew up in Fontana, Riverside, Corona.

01:00:13.000 Fontucky.

01:00:13.000 Yep, Fontucky.

01:00:14.000 Shout out to Double Dose Muay Thai out there.

01:00:17.000 Yeah?

01:00:17.000 Is there a good Muay Thai place out there?

01:00:19.000 So, people like to fight in Fontana.

01:00:21.000 People like to fight everywhere.

01:00:22.000 Yeah.

01:00:24.000 No, you either fight or play football.

01:00:27.000 In Fontana?

01:00:28.000 Yeah.

01:00:28.000 Or you sell meth.

01:00:29.000 Yep.

01:00:30.000 But yeah, it was the same way.

01:00:32.000 Just skated by high school.

01:00:34.000 And then I remember I didn't even want to walk. 0.98

01:00:35.000 I fucking hated it so much. 0.55

01:00:37.000 I actually rode my skateboard with my friends that were like much older than me that I'd go skateboarding with every day. 0.99

01:00:42.000 And we were skateboarding by the high school as everyone walked and got their diploma.

01:00:47.000 Did you get your diploma? 0.97

01:00:49.000 Yeah, they sent it to me, but I didn't want to fucking be there. 0.93

01:00:52.000 I didn't go to my graduation. 0.91

01:00:54.000 I'm like, I'm gone.

01:00:55.000 Once I got through, I'm like, you don't have me anymore.

01:00:59.000 I can be free. 0.98

01:01:01.000 It took me a while to figure out what the fuck to do next. 0.97

01:01:04.000 Yeah, I would sit there and they would be like, so what do you want to do? 0.99

01:01:06.000 Talk to counselors?

01:01:07.000 And I was like, I just want to play drums in a band, really.

01:01:10.000 And they'd be like, well, that's not an option.

01:01:12.000 Like, what college are you going to?

01:01:15.000 And they would talk to me like I was like, just insane.

01:01:18.000 Isn't that crazy that there's so many bands and there's so many drummers?

01:01:21.000 Why is that not an option?

01:01:23.000 Yeah.

01:01:23.000 Why is that not an option?

01:01:24.000 It'd be better if they just said, well, you know, like, I don't know if they motivated you to actually do what you're passionate about, you know, instead of just being, well, that's not going to happen, so what do you want to do?

01:01:34.000 God. 0.95

01:01:35.000 So many fucking people that probably wanted to be drummers and just never got a push and never, you know, never made it through. 0.99

01:01:42.000 But then there's the other argument that if you really want it, you'll find a way. 0.99

01:01:47.000 Yeah, you got to do it.

01:01:48.000 I mean, my dad used to tell me the same thing.

01:01:50.000 He'd be like, You've got to have a plan B. And I'd be like, well, if I have a plan B, I'm not going to try that hard.

01:01:59.000 I started thinking in my head, and then that's when I just said, nah, fuck that. 0.99

01:02:05.000 It's only this. 0.99

01:02:06.000 No matter if I'm rich or poor, whatever the circumstances, this is what I'm doing. 0.99

01:02:12.000 I don't give a fuck what the outcome is. 0.93

01:02:14.000 I think that's the right mindset. 0.98

01:02:16.000 I don't think people get by that well.

01:02:19.000 When I was just starting to do stand-up, there was a lot of guys who had full-time jobs and they got degrees and they would work their full-time job and then they would just do stand-up a couple nights a week.

01:02:29.000 They never made it.

01:02:31.000 It was the obsessed guys. 0.99

01:02:33.000 And women, the people that were just like, this is my fucking life. 1.00

01:02:37.000 This is what I do. 0.99

01:02:39.000 I'm gonna do this.

01:02:40.000 Those are the ones that do it.

01:02:41.000 The no safety net people are the ones that made it. 0.98

01:02:43.000 Yeah, I mean, it's gonna fucking happen. 0.96

01:02:45.000 You just have to stick with it. 0.91

01:02:49.000 I feel like the people who really stick with it and give it like 110%, your time will come.

01:02:55.000 However big or small it is, something will happen, you know?

01:02:58.000 Yeah.

01:02:58.000 Yeah, if you figure it out and keep improving and keep learning and learn from your mistakes and learn from your setbacks and keep trying to push and get better and improve.

01:03:08.000 If you do all those things, as hopeless and helpless as it seems, if you continue to improve, you've got to get to a better place.

01:03:16.000 You've got to get better and one day you'll be undeniable.

01:03:19.000 And if you don't, and if you just fall back on that safety net, you're always going to wonder.

01:03:25.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:03:25.000 You know, you're always going to look at Travis Barker going fucking ham on the drums and going, shit, that could have been me! 0.99

01:03:30.000 Dude, I almost did it. 0.99

01:03:31.000 I actually, at one point, my pops, my pops is awesome, but...

01:03:36.000 He's like a Vietnam vet and rode a Harley his whole life, and he just basically said to me, he's like, yo, you either gotta start paying rent at the house, because you're not in high school no more, and get a 60 hour a week job, like a real job, or you need to go. 0.57

01:03:52.000 Go fucking play drums, but you're not gonna do it here in my garage. 0.92

01:03:55.000 Wow. 1.00

01:03:56.000 So I was like, okay.

01:03:56.000 And it was probably the best thing that was ever said to me, you know, as harsh as it was or whatever.

01:04:00.000 And then I had actually caved in and I just told my friend Noel, I was like, you know what, I think I'm just gonna, I'm gonna get this fucking job because I just somehow got a job that made, you know, in a warehouse.

01:04:12.000 It was like Target warehouse, making pretty good money compared to what I was making at the time.

01:04:17.000 And he hit me the next day and he's like, I think you're making a big mistake. 0.73

01:04:21.000 I think you're very fucking talented and I think you'll regret this. 0.99

01:04:24.000 And you can get this bullshit job any time down the line. 1.00

01:04:28.000 Come live with me on, you know, stay at my house. 1.00

01:04:29.000 You can sleep on the floor or the couch. 1.00

01:04:31.000 And let's play in this fucking band and do it. 1.00

01:04:34.000 And I did it. 1.00

01:04:35.000 You know, I was like a trash man in Laguna Beach. 0.78

01:04:38.000 Lived in like this studio apartment with a couple other guys. 0.99

01:04:41.000 And it just fucking took off. 0.76

01:04:43.000 Like, I had to like, I mean, there was like humility too, you know. 0.98

01:04:46.000 There was like playing bar after bar and, you know.

01:04:50.000 You know, but I was eating.

01:04:51.000 I was eating.

01:04:52.000 I was, you know, I was skateboarding every day and I was living at the beach playing in a band with my friends.

01:04:56.000 So for me, I had already made it.

01:04:59.000 Those are the best stories.

01:05:00.000 Yeah.

01:05:01.000 They're the best stories.

01:05:02.000 And I think back even to this day, I go to Laguna sometimes.

01:05:04.000 I'm like, wow, that was kind of one of the best moments of my life. 0.99

01:05:08.000 Besides my children being born, like poor, no money, but like happy as fuck. 0.97

01:05:14.000 Like can't even think of another time I was that happy. 0.99

01:05:16.000 You know?

01:05:17.000 Yeah.

01:05:17.000 It's cool.

01:05:18.000 The only pressure is the pressure of trying to succeed.

01:05:22.000 It's not the pressure of already succeeding and the overwhelming pressure that you must experience now.

01:05:28.000 Yeah.

01:05:29.000 Those are great stories, man.

01:05:30.000 The stories where you didn't know if it was going to work. 0.99

01:05:34.000 Yeah, you have no fucking clue. 1.00

01:05:36.000 Those stories right now, some kids are listening to those stories right now, listening to you say this, and they're like, fuck, man, I'm going to do it. 1.00

01:05:43.000 I'm going to go for it. 0.99

01:05:44.000 Who knows how many rock stars you're making right now just saying this?

01:05:48.000 Yeah, because a lot of them are teeter-tottering.

01:05:50.000 Like, am I going to do it?

01:05:50.000 Am I not going to do it?

01:05:51.000 I mean, I was at the time, you know? 0.81

01:05:53.000 And you just have to, you know, don't worry about being cool or being fucking rich or having money. 0.95

01:05:59.000 Just be passionate about what you're passionate about and fucking dedicate 100%, you know? 0.86

01:06:05.000 Yeah, there's those moments, man, when you're first starting out anything where it's not sure. 0.95

01:06:10.000 It's not a definite thing.

01:06:13.000 You're in this weird limbo space like, man, am I going to be a loser my whole life?

01:06:17.000 Like, what's going to happen to me?

01:06:19.000 And those moments, man, when you look back and you realize you could have quit, but you kept going.

01:06:25.000 You figured it out.

01:06:26.000 You sucked it up.

01:06:27.000 Yeah.

01:06:27.000 You worked your way through it.

01:06:29.000 You improved.

01:06:30.000 You kept moving.

01:06:31.000 Yeah.

01:06:32.000 Yeah, that's life, man.

01:06:33.000 Yeah.

01:06:34.000 That's what defines you, man.

01:06:35.000 Yeah, it really does. 1.00

01:06:36.000 I just love those fucking stories. 0.99

01:06:38.000 I can never get enough of them, man. 1.00

01:06:40.000 Yeah.

01:06:41.000 The dirty, grimy, and then finally you make it story.

01:06:44.000 Yeah.

01:06:45.000 They're the best.

01:06:48.000 Dude, you're running out of space to tattoo, I'm going to tell you right now.

01:06:50.000 I'm actually getting tattoos on top of tattoos.

01:06:52.000 That's outrageous.

01:06:53.000 Yeah, I just got this LLJ for XXX. I'm working on some new ones.

01:07:01.000 I've decided to go back in.

01:07:03.000 You're kind of like remixing them at this point, you know, like getting tattoos on top of tattoos.

01:07:07.000 Have you ever gotten lasered?

01:07:10.000 Yeah, once.

01:07:10.000 I had like a new wife and I divorced my ex-wife and she wasn't really stoked on the ex-wife's name on me.

01:07:17.000 Yeah, that seems like a problem.

01:07:19.000 Yeah, so I lasered it because it was right on my neck and she always had to see it.

01:07:24.000 But that's the only time I've ever done it.

01:07:26.000 There's nothing on me I really want to get rid of where I'm like...

01:07:29.000 It's all a story to me.

01:07:30.000 It all tells a story.

01:07:31.000 It's like a moment in time and I got it for a reason.

01:07:34.000 But I was trying to be cool and, you know what I mean, trying to be respectful and make her happy at the time.

01:07:38.000 That makes sense.

01:07:39.000 Yeah.

01:07:40.000 I mean, it was amazing.

01:07:40.000 She hung in there all the way to being married with another chick's name on your neck.

01:07:44.000 Yeah.

01:07:44.000 That's a good woman.

01:07:46.000 True.

01:07:48.000 In that regard.

01:07:49.000 Yeah.

01:07:51.000 Yeah.

01:07:52.000 But yeah, I love tattoos, man.

01:07:53.000 They're addicting.

01:07:54.000 Yeah, I love them too.

01:07:55.000 Once I figured out they didn't hurt at the age of 15, it was on.

01:07:58.000 I didn't...

01:07:59.000 Yeah, it's like, what people tell you, they're like, oh, it's so painful.

01:08:03.000 Yeah.

01:08:03.000 And then you get one, you're like, wait a minute.

01:08:04.000 It's not so bad.

01:08:05.000 This is like, it's kind of like a slight burn.

01:08:09.000 Yeah.

01:08:09.000 It's like...

01:08:11.000 Kind of therapeutic too.

01:08:12.000 Yeah, not that bad.

01:08:13.000 I fell asleep while I was getting tattooed.

01:08:15.000 Same.

01:08:16.000 Yeah.

01:08:17.000 Same.

01:08:17.000 When I did my back piece, I fell asleep.

01:08:19.000 And I had two artists working on me at the same time.

01:08:21.000 Oh, wow. 0.97

01:08:22.000 Just because I fucking hate wasting time. 0.95

01:08:25.000 So, yeah, they did my back together. 0.97

01:08:27.000 They did my head together, too.

01:08:29.000 Yeah, the head's impressive.

01:08:30.000 Let me see the head.

01:08:31.000 Let me see what that looks like.

01:08:33.000 When did you get that done?

01:08:35.000 I did my head like, I don't know, six years ago.

01:08:39.000 Wow.

01:08:39.000 Yeah.

01:08:40.000 That's crazy.

01:08:41.000 Yeah, I started, I had like a piece on the side of my head that Mr. Cartoon did back in the day.

01:08:45.000 I love that guy's work.

01:08:46.000 Yeah, Cartoon is such a legend.

01:08:48.000 He's amazing. 1.00

01:08:48.000 He's got great shit. 1.00

01:08:49.000 He is a legend. 1.00

01:08:50.000 Yeah, he's a legend.

01:08:51.000 Even outside of tattooing, like lowrider culture. 1.00

01:08:55.000 He's one of the illest.

01:08:56.000 But yeah, he did that.

01:08:58.000 And then that kind of set it off.

01:09:00.000 I always had like praying hands on the side of my head.

01:09:02.000 And then I shaved my head and I've never grown my hair out since. 1.00

01:09:05.000 Because I'm like, fuck it. 1.00

01:09:06.000 It's a permanent haircut. 1.00

01:09:09.000 You know?

01:09:11.000 What is up there?

01:09:12.000 It's hard to see what will shine.

01:09:14.000 I have like Virgin Mary right there. 1.00

01:09:16.000 Oh, wow.

01:09:18.000 I think I have like a rose.

01:09:19.000 You think?

01:09:20.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:09:21.000 That's why you know you got a lot of tattoos.

01:09:23.000 Like, I don't know what's on my head.

01:09:25.000 I have like a transplant gas mask on the back of my head.

01:09:28.000 I have one life, one chance.

01:09:31.000 Yeah, and then like some writing.

01:09:33.000 Wow.

01:09:34.000 Now, when you got burned, did it affect your tattoos?

01:09:37.000 Did you have to tattoo over it?

01:09:39.000 Yeah, so I lost all of my tattoos on my legs.

01:09:43.000 Wow.

01:09:44.000 Yes, I lost my first tattoo ever, which was a Dag Nasty tattoo. 0.99

01:09:48.000 This hardcore band, punk band that I loved forever.

01:09:51.000 And a Bones tattoo, which was my nickname growing up.

01:09:55.000 But I lost everything on my legs.

01:09:57.000 So then they do what's called grafting.

01:10:01.000 Oh, and I lost some tattoos from my back.

01:10:03.000 It's like a cheese grater, and they grade all of your skin off your back and my thighs, and then they staple it to you with pig cadaver, and they wait for you to start healing.

01:10:18.000 So yeah, so I lost a lot of tattoos.

01:10:20.000 And then I did, like on my thighs, you can't really see.

01:10:23.000 I did memorials for little Chris, Che, and DJ AM, who all passed away in the accident.

01:10:31.000 So I put them on my legs over the grass so you can't really see it.

01:10:35.000 But yeah, I mean, I got out pretty well, man.

01:10:39.000 Like, I mean, you can kind of see it on my hand.

01:10:40.000 My hand, you can see it's discolored and stuff.

01:10:42.000 But for having almost 70% of my body burnt, like, you can't really tell.

01:10:48.000 That's amazing.

01:10:48.000 Yeah, you can't really tell at all because you're so tattooed up.

01:10:51.000 The pain of healing burns is supposed to be excruciating. 0.99

01:10:56.000 It's the fucking worst thing ever. 0.98

01:10:58.000 Well, for me too, I mean, I don't think you guys ever think about being burnt. 0.99

01:11:02.000 I know I didn't.

01:11:03.000 I would just be like, I don't know, I just never think about fire. 1.00

01:11:08.000 Until you're on fire and then you're like, oh shit. 0.99

01:11:11.000 And then the treatments afterwards to do everything. 0.99

01:11:20.000 They would put me in this big pan that was literally about as big as this table.

01:11:24.000 With different people all around you, and they would scrape all my burns with a metal brush to get rid of all the infection.

01:11:30.000 Because I basically, when I jumped through the emergency exit, when I opened the emergency exit before the plane blew up, I was in such a hurry to get out of the plane and exit the plane, I jumped right into the jet, which is full of fuel.

01:11:46.000 So my whole body lit up, you know?

01:11:49.000 So I had jet fuel just...

01:11:51.000 In my whole body.

01:11:52.000 Like I burped jet fuel for almost like three months.

01:11:55.000 Oh god.

01:11:56.000 So they had like, that was the main thing to get rid of an infection is they scrub you with a metal brush to get rid of all of it and all of the dead skin.

01:12:04.000 And then I did about 30 surgeries to repair everything, like skin graft surgeries.

01:12:10.000 They saved my foot because at one point they were going to amputate my right foot.

01:12:14.000 Yeah, it was wild.

01:12:15.000 I have pictures from it.

01:12:17.000 Is that burnt that they were going to have to amputate it?

01:12:19.000 My right foot almost didn't make it.

01:12:21.000 Was it because the way it was...

01:12:22.000 Was it was necrosis?

01:12:24.000 Or like what was going on that they were going to amputate it?

01:12:26.000 I think because that was the thing that was most soaked was my shoes and socks when I jumped into the jets, you know?

01:12:35.000 And I had done like...

01:12:36.000 I had exited the plane.

01:12:38.000 I had started running.

01:12:39.000 I had started like ripping off my clothes.

01:12:42.000 That's what my instinct told me.

01:12:44.000 Just get rid of everything.

01:12:46.000 But little did I know I would still be on fire because the jet fuel was, you know, I was soaked in it.

01:12:51.000 So I'm actually running towards a highway.

01:12:55.000 Highway's right on the side of me.

01:12:56.000 And I just hear some guy yell like, stop, drop, and roll.

01:12:59.000 And it just like, I heard it out of all this chaos of every sirens and everything.

01:13:04.000 And I stopped, drop, and rolled.

01:13:05.000 And the only thing that was still on fire was my feet.

01:13:08.000 And AM came and patted them out.

01:13:11.000 So I think they were on fire the longest too.

01:13:14.000 So still, I think my right foot is probably like over 50% of it's a graft.

01:13:19.000 Wow!

01:13:20.000 Yeah, it's wild.

01:13:22.000 But yeah, that was like, I never, like I said, I never even thought about it.

01:13:26.000 It's not something you think about until it happens to you.

01:13:28.000 But being burnt is like, it's horrific, you know?

01:13:32.000 Were you affected by the recent fires out here?

01:13:36.000 It came about a couple hundred yards from one of my houses.

01:13:39.000 Oh, wow.

01:13:40.000 But I was in Vegas.

01:13:41.000 I was actually playing a show.

01:13:42.000 We left that morning, and then we got phone calls saying you had to evacuate.

01:13:46.000 And your kids were with you?

01:13:48.000 Thank God.

01:13:48.000 Yeah, the kids.

01:13:49.000 My dog was with me.

01:13:51.000 My housekeeper was at the house, so she was able to get the rest of our dogs out.

01:13:57.000 As long as I had them there with me, I was like, everything else is replaceable.

01:14:01.000 It's whatever.

01:14:02.000 Yeah.

01:14:02.000 But yeah, that was sketchy.

01:14:04.000 I mean, you saw, obviously, you live very close by, too.

01:14:07.000 Yeah, we got evacuated.

01:14:08.000 We got evacuated.

01:14:10.000 Well, we evacuated ourselves before they had a mandatory at 2 in the morning.

01:14:14.000 I came back from the comedy store.

01:14:16.000 My wife and I were looking out the window, and the flames are coming over the hill.

01:14:20.000 And I said, no one's going to save us here. 0.98

01:14:22.000 I go, you know, we have to figure out what the fuck we're going to do. 0.98

01:14:25.000 And she's like, I think we should go. 0.99

01:14:27.000 And I said, all right, I think you're right.

01:14:29.000 And we just got a hotel room, and we just bailed.

01:14:31.000 Yeah.

01:14:31.000 And I just grabbed, I literally grabbed my laptop, and I think that's it.

01:14:36.000 And some clothes.

01:14:37.000 And then the kids were a little freaked out, but I said, look, we're here.

01:14:42.000 We're all right. 1.00

01:14:43.000 Like, we could buy more shit. 1.00

01:14:44.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:14:45.000 Like, the dog's fine.

01:14:45.000 We're fine.

01:14:47.000 That's how I was, too.

01:14:48.000 I was like...

01:14:48.000 Let it burn!

01:14:49.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:14:50.000 You know, I mean, I don't want it to burn, obviously, but rather than you being hurt, like, fuck, man. 0.99

01:14:55.000 This is... 0.99

01:14:55.000 It's an inconvenience when you lose your house. 0.99

01:15:00.000 Yeah.

01:15:00.000 It's a horrific tragedy when you lose your life.

01:15:03.000 You know, we're not... 0.91

01:15:04.000 We're going to get the fuck out of here. 0.89

01:15:05.000 Yeah. 0.59

01:15:06.000 And so they were freaked out, but within a day or two, I mean, we stayed in a hotel for a week, but within a day or two, they were cool.

01:15:12.000 We were laughing about it.

01:15:13.000 Same.

01:15:13.000 We did the same thing.

01:15:14.000 I came home, but not really home, you know, just lived at a hotel for a week.

01:15:18.000 But yeah, it felt kind of helpless.

01:15:21.000 Like, you couldn't do much, you know?

01:15:22.000 It's not like I could sit there and...

01:15:24.000 And put out the fire myself.

01:15:26.000 They wouldn't even let us in our community.

01:15:27.000 Yeah, same here.

01:15:28.000 It was crazy.

01:15:29.000 For people that weren't around here, they don't know how crazy it was, but the sky was filled with smoke.

01:15:36.000 Everywhere you looked was smoke.

01:15:38.000 I mean, all of LA was filled with smoke. 0.97

01:15:41.000 We stayed in Beverly Hills at the Waldorf, and you look out the balcony window, and it's just fucking gray. 0.69

01:15:47.000 Just smoke everywhere.

01:15:48.000 I've never seen fires like that before.

01:15:50.000 Never in my life.

01:15:51.000 Me either.

01:15:52.000 And I always see we're on high alert.

01:15:53.000 You know, I'd see it like my kids are at school over in Malibu or really close to there.

01:15:58.000 And I always see high alert, but nothing's ever really happened.

01:16:02.000 You know, there's been like small fires, but that was horrific.

01:16:05.000 That was just, it looked like Hiroshima in our neighborhood. 0.75

01:16:08.000 Like, you know, airplanes flying really low, dropping like fire retardant. 1.00

01:16:12.000 Yeah.

01:16:13.000 It was crazy.

01:16:15.000 Bill Burr flies helicopters.

01:16:17.000 He's got his helicopter license.

01:16:19.000 And we took a flight around Malibu, around Point Doom.

01:16:22.000 And you go over there and you see these massive estates just burnt to the ground.

01:16:27.000 These gorgeous houses with the perfect view on the bluff overlooking the ocean.

01:16:33.000 Gone.

01:16:34.000 Huge lots.

01:16:35.000 You know, $20 million houses.

01:16:37.000 Gone.

01:16:38.000 Just burnt to the ground.

01:16:39.000 And there's so many of them.

01:16:40.000 And then like one house standing there.

01:16:42.000 One house out of just random.

01:16:44.000 That's how it was in our neighborhood, too.

01:16:45.000 Like, a house caught fire, but nothing near it caught fire.

01:16:48.000 It's weird.

01:16:49.000 Yeah, some shit will fly through the air, land on someone's house, and if you have, like, pine needles or something on your roof or a flammable roof, you know, it just catches on fire. 0.93

01:17:00.000 Was it a campfire that started? 0.97

01:17:02.000 It's called Campfire, but I don't think it was a campfire.

01:17:06.000 That was the name of the fire. 0.98

01:17:09.000 I don't know what the fuck the cause of that fire was. 0.97

01:17:12.000 Jamie, see if you can find that out. 0.98

01:17:13.000 Do you know what it is?

01:17:14.000 No, I think they've been trying to blame, or blame has been put on different utility companies and whatnot, and they're not taking the blame where they can prove that it wasn't them.

01:17:22.000 It's been being passed through.

01:17:23.000 I don't know that anybody knows yet, from what I've been looking at.

01:17:26.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:17:27.000 It's fucking crazy though, man. 0.97

01:17:29.000 When I was in Boulder, there was a giant fire that broke out that was a fireman accidentally started. 0.98

01:17:36.000 Yeah, he had a fire pit in his backyard and some fucking embers blew out of his fire pit and started a giant fire and just burnt massive amounts of wild forest.

01:17:49.000 It's just gone. 1.00

01:17:50.000 Damn. 1.00

01:17:51.000 Yeah, a fireman. 1.00

01:17:52.000 Imagine how that guy felt.

01:17:53.000 Of all people, yeah. 1.00

01:17:54.000 He must have felt like shit. 0.99

01:17:56.000 I mean, anybody just couldn't fucking imagine if it was your fault that one of these things get started. 0.99

01:18:02.000 Oh, yeah, the guilt. 0.98

01:18:04.000 I wouldn't be sleeping for weeks. 1.00

01:18:06.000 The craziest shit is Northern California. 1.00

01:18:09.000 Northern California got it way worse. 1.00

01:18:11.000 We got it bad down here, worse than I've ever seen, but they got it way worse in Northern California.

01:18:15.000 Northern California, they lost like a shitload of people who died on the highway.

01:18:19.000 That's what I saw, man.

01:18:20.000 They burnt to death in their cars.

01:18:22.000 You see those photos?

01:18:23.000 Yes.

01:18:24.000 Oh, man. 1.00

01:18:24.000 Fuck, man. 1.00

01:18:26.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:18:27.000 Sad.

01:18:27.000 You know, and a lot of this is because of, I mean, there's a lot of issues, right?

01:18:31.000 There's the dry, you know, the fact that dry climate, the fact that, you know, there's a climate change that's happening, but also the fact that there's no small fires.

01:18:42.000 Like, all those dead trees are supposed to get knocked down by small fires, like controlled fires.

01:18:47.000 Yeah.

01:18:48.000 And that doesn't really happen anymore.

01:18:49.000 We don't want small fires that can possibly get out of hand.

01:18:53.000 And so you have these We're good to go. 0.63

01:19:22.000 Yeah, I mean, the crazy thing is, like, you look how fucking lush and green it looks out here now.

01:19:28.000 Like, you would never imagine that just a few months ago, this was a raging inferno.

01:19:33.000 It actually is good for the ground.

01:19:35.000 Yeah.

01:19:36.000 You know, when all that carbon...

01:19:37.000 It still smells like fire, too, right now, right?

01:19:38.000 Some places, yeah.

01:19:40.000 Every time it rains, it's starting to get a little bit better, but...

01:19:42.000 Does it freak you out when you see fire now because of your accident?

01:19:46.000 No.

01:19:46.000 Yeah, it took a little while for us to have pyro again.

01:19:49.000 I remember it was like we had just got back together and like this really really like killer like photographer had this idea to do this photo shoot and they wanted us holding like the um whatchamacallit the thing like the flares in the accent.

01:20:07.000 And he got me to hold it for a second, and I was like, ah, bro, I can't do this.

01:20:11.000 Like, wrong photo shoot.

01:20:12.000 Like, I'm sorry, you know, I know you have this vision, but I... That's an insensitive vision.

01:20:17.000 Yeah, and he kind of knew...

01:20:19.000 How about water hoses?

01:20:20.000 Yeah, right?

01:20:21.000 That would have been a little bit more fitting.

01:20:23.000 And now we do pyro stuff on stage and production, and it doesn't really bug me.

01:20:29.000 But I'm very cautious around the house.

01:20:31.000 Like, you know, my daughter, she has like a...

01:20:33.000 A straight iron plugged in or for my son, whatever, lights a candle.

01:20:38.000 Like, I'm so crazy about it.

01:20:40.000 Yeah, I can imagine.

01:20:41.000 Yeah.

01:20:42.000 A little weird.

01:20:43.000 So, I have to ask you, does Tom talk about UFOs all the time?

01:20:48.000 Well, you know he's not in the band no more.

01:20:49.000 Yeah, I know.

01:20:50.000 But did he always do that?

01:20:51.000 He always did.

01:20:53.000 We used to get loaded and just look out the bus window for a while.

01:20:57.000 And I used to do it with him.

01:20:58.000 I was like, I don't know, it's kind of a bonding experience.

01:21:00.000 It's like...

01:21:01.000 If you wanted to show me bow and arrows, whatever, and we're on tour together, of course, I'd sit there and check it out.

01:21:07.000 With Tom, that was his thing.

01:21:09.000 Let's get high and look for UFOs.

01:21:11.000 So we would.

01:21:12.000 We'd just sit there and stare out the bus window, look at UFOs. 0.98

01:21:16.000 He would even go as far as when we're on tour, let's go and fucking look for Bigfoot. 0.97

01:21:21.000 Whatever it was, you know? 0.98

01:21:23.000 And he would assemble a crew and they would go do it.

01:21:26.000 Oh my god.

01:21:27.000 He never got me on one of those trips because that was just too fairytale for me. 0.94

01:21:31.000 But I would, you know, I'd do that and he was always, it's really not something he just got into from the day I fucking met him.

01:21:39.000 He was obsessed with UFOs and aliens and was always very passionate about it.

01:21:44.000 To the point where, like, I didn't know enough to have any kind of, I guess, like, opinion on it.

01:21:51.000 I was just very open and, you know, just took it all in.

01:21:55.000 Yeah.

01:21:56.000 But nothing has changed.

01:21:57.000 He's still... 1.00

01:21:58.000 The other day I talked to him, he's like, I'm on the way to the fucking White House, bro. 0.99

01:22:02.000 And I don't ask any questions. 0.99

01:22:03.000 I'd be like, as you should be.

01:22:05.000 You know, whatever. 0.99

01:22:06.000 Like, let's fucking go. 0.99

01:22:08.000 As you should be. 0.99

01:22:09.000 Yeah.

01:22:09.000 What a great response.

01:22:11.000 Yeah.

01:22:11.000 Good luck with that.

01:22:12.000 Yep.

01:22:13.000 Wow.

01:22:14.000 That's crazy.

01:22:15.000 Yeah, he was a trip, man.

01:22:16.000 Having a conversation with him was very strange.

01:22:19.000 Because part of me was like, is this guy putting me on?

01:22:22.000 Like, what is happening here? 1.00

01:22:23.000 He's dead ass. 1.00

01:22:24.000 Dead ass. 1.00

01:22:25.000 Seemed like it. 1.00

01:22:25.000 And we would look at these videos that were so clearly horse shit. 1.00

01:22:29.000 And he would be like, amazing, right? 0.99

01:22:31.000 And I'd be like, what?

01:22:32.000 Like, you think that that's an actual UFO? Like, that is the fakest fucking video I've ever seen in my life. 0.99

01:22:38.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:22:38.000 But he didn't see that at all. 0.99

01:22:39.000 Yeah.

01:22:40.000 In his mind, he was seeing a real alien spaceship.

01:22:44.000 Even on tour, I'd be like, he'd walk in my room and he'd be like, what are you doing?

01:22:47.000 And I'm like, oh, check this thing out.

01:22:48.000 I just made up, whatever, playing drums. 0.99

01:22:50.000 He'd be like, dude, fucking whatever George Bush just did. 0.99

01:22:53.000 You know, he's just coming at me with some, like, politics. 1.00

01:22:55.000 He's been watching CNN or, yeah.

01:22:58.000 Like, he's just, he's always been obsessed with it.

01:23:01.000 So he's obsessed with all sorts of hidden things, like not just UFOs, but Bigfoot too.

01:23:07.000 Conspiracy theories, politics, everything.

01:23:10.000 Very, very passionate about all those things.

01:23:13.000 Conspiracy theories and politics.

01:23:15.000 It's interesting how those things go together. 0.98

01:23:18.000 Because people were always wondering, like, who the fuck is running things? 0.96

01:23:22.000 What's really going on? 0.99

01:23:24.000 What's happening behind the scenes?

01:23:26.000 Who's pulling the strings?

01:23:28.000 What does it all really mean?

01:23:31.000 Yeah.

01:23:31.000 You know?

01:23:33.000 Yeah, but the UFO thing, it's like, boy, boy, you gotta...

01:23:37.000 I mean, I absolutely believe there could be intelligent life out there, but I haven't seen a fucking single thing that makes me think that anybody's got a picture or a video. 0.94

01:23:48.000 Yeah, I feel like it could be real, I believe, but I can't fucking... 0.69

01:23:54.000 I'm not dedicating my life to search for it, you know? 0.51

01:23:57.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:23:57.000 And I give it to him, man, to like, honestly, to walk away from your fucking very successful band to go do that shit, like, I have nothing but respect for his passion, but it's like, I couldn't do that. 0.98

01:24:10.000 That's insane. 0.99

01:24:11.000 Yeah, it's like, that just, it really shows, like, he's, you know, he's very, very passionate about it.

01:24:17.000 I hope he saved up some money.

01:24:18.000 Yeah, me too.

01:24:21.000 You know Survivorman, Les Stroud?

01:24:23.000 Nah.

01:24:24.000 You ever see that show? 1.00

01:24:25.000 It's a fucking great show. 0.99

01:24:29.000 Survivorman would go out into the woods with a limited amount of things. 1.00

01:24:33.000 He would say, like, okay, I've got this bucket, I've got a fucking pocket knife, and I've got a ball of yarn, and I'm going to survive out here for seven days.

01:24:42.000 And he films the whole thing. 0.87

01:24:44.000 And he'd be filming himself eating frogs and catching a squirrel and finding edible plants and just living out in the forest and oftentimes going days and days without food.

01:24:54.000 And then he would have a point where he'd get rescued.

01:24:57.000 Seven days in, there would be a spot where they would meet him.

01:25:00.000 He had an experience when he was in Alaska a long time ago where he was camping.

01:25:06.000 And he said he heard footsteps, like big, heavy footsteps.

01:25:09.000 And he heard some sound.

01:25:11.000 It sounded like a gorilla.

01:25:14.000 Like something like that.

01:25:16.000 And then it ran off.

01:25:18.000 And to this day, he's convinced that that was a Bigfoot.

01:25:22.000 And so now he has Survivorman Bigfoot.

01:25:25.000 And he goes out into the woods and just looks for evidence of Sasquatch.

01:25:32.000 Well, he needs to hit up Tom.

01:25:35.000 Tom will pull up.

01:25:36.000 He'll go with him.

01:25:37.000 He would love that.

01:25:38.000 I'm sure he would. 1.00

01:25:39.000 Fuck. 1.00

01:25:40.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:25:40.000 He's tried to get me to go with him. 1.00

01:25:42.000 I'm like, good luck.

01:25:42.000 I did it one time.

01:25:45.000 I went hunting for Bigfoot for a television show I did for SyFy called Joe Rogan Questions Everything.

01:25:50.000 And we went...

01:25:51.000 Looking for Bigfoot. 0.99

01:25:52.000 And the more I talked to these Bigfoot folks, the more I was convinced that none of these motherfuckers had ever seen Bigfoot. 0.99

01:25:57.000 There was one lady that I talked to, one lady, who just did not seem like a liar. 0.99

01:26:02.000 And she was telling me that she saw something in the woods, and it was standing up, and it was tall, like seven, eight feet tall.

01:26:09.000 And she's like, why is there a gorilla in the woods?

01:26:13.000 And then she's like, oh my god, that's Bigfoot.

01:26:15.000 And it was the Pacific Northwest, like outside of Washington State, or in Washington State, outside of Seattle.

01:26:22.000 And the woods are so dense up there that if anything goes 10, 20 feet, it's gone.

01:26:28.000 The problem with that is that there's black bears up there.

01:26:30.000 And black bears sometimes stand up on two feet.

01:26:32.000 They do it all the time.

01:26:33.000 And if you saw a black foot, especially...

01:26:36.000 A black bear, rather, especially from a distance, you would think it was a big gorilla.

01:26:39.000 If it was standing up on two feet, which they do do, especially when they're trying to see something, they'll stand up and they'll even walk.

01:26:45.000 There's a lot of videos of them walking on two feet. 0.99

01:26:48.000 Damn, just on their hind legs. 0.99

01:26:49.000 You ever seen it? 1.00

01:26:49.000 Nah. 1.00

01:26:50.000 That's crazy.

01:26:51.000 I could see how that would resemble a Bigfoot, though.

01:26:53.000 100%.

01:26:54.000 Yeah.

01:26:54.000 So I think...

01:26:55.000 I don't think that lady's a liar. 1.00

01:26:57.000 I just...

01:26:57.000 I don't...

01:26:58.000 I mean, look, it might be real.

01:27:00.000 There might be a few of them left.

01:27:02.000 There definitely was a thing called Gigantopithecus that lived in Asia.

01:27:06.000 And the thought is that it came across the Bering Land Bridge the same time that Native Americans came across from Asia.

01:27:12.000 And that they came across, you know, because they lived in Asia, and this Gigantopithecus, I think, lived as recently, I think, as 100,000 years ago. 0.89

01:27:23.000 I think the most recent fossils they have of it, which is, you know, human beings were alive back then.

01:27:28.000 And this thing was an 8 to 10 foot tall bipedal hominid.

01:27:35.000 So it was a huge, huge ape-like creature.

01:27:38.000 So check this out.

01:27:39.000 This is, look at this bear. 1.00

01:27:42.000 Is that the craziest shit ever? 1.00

01:27:43.000 Wow. 1.00

01:27:44.000 Bears walking on two legs.

01:27:45.000 Look at them.

01:27:46.000 Wow.

01:27:48.000 Like, if you saw that, you'd be like...

01:27:49.000 Oh, that's totally...

01:27:50.000 Yeah.

01:27:50.000 Yeah, you can mistake that.

01:27:51.000 Yeah, you'd be like, oh my god, it's a fucking Bigfoot! 0.99

01:27:53.000 Especially if you believe the hype and you're searching for Bigfoot out there. 1.00

01:27:57.000 Yes!

01:27:57.000 Yeah.

01:27:58.000 Or if you're on shrooms.

01:27:59.000 Yeah.

01:28:00.000 Right?

01:28:01.000 I mean, if you're walking around, if you're high on mushrooms, you're like, oh my god, Bigfoot's real.

01:28:04.000 Look at that thing. 0.92

01:28:05.000 He's like, hey, how you doing?

01:28:06.000 Oh, he's got a hurt right foot.

01:28:08.000 That's what that is.

01:28:09.000 You see his right foot?

01:28:10.000 There's something wrong with his right foot.

01:28:12.000 Sometimes, yeah, it looks like he's missing his front paw.

01:28:14.000 It says, sometimes, you know, bears will fight with each other and one bear will bite the other bear's foot off.

01:28:20.000 Or he could have gotten shot or he could have broke it off on something.

01:28:25.000 Yeah.

01:28:26.000 That's crazy.

01:28:27.000 Yeah, he's missing a foot.

01:28:27.000 So he's walking around out there like a gorilla.

01:28:31.000 But everybody else, I was like, when I'm talking to them, they're like living in make-believe world.

01:28:36.000 Here's another one walking around.

01:28:37.000 Look at them.

01:28:38.000 Wow.

01:28:39.000 That is weird, man.

01:28:40.000 Those are big-ass bears, too.

01:28:43.000 Big-ass bears.

01:28:44.000 Chilling on two feet, man. 0.81

01:28:45.000 I mean, look. 1.00

01:28:45.000 They look like fucking people, man. 1.00

01:28:48.000 I think that is a big reason why. 1.00

01:28:51.000 And they're feeding them.

01:28:52.000 That is so crazy.

01:28:54.000 Where is that?

01:28:55.000 I don't know.

01:28:56.000 That doesn't seem like America.

01:28:59.000 Is it?

01:28:59.000 It's just South Korea, yeah.

01:29:00.000 Wow.

01:29:01.000 Oh, so that's one of those wildlife parks where the animals are all, and you're in a car.

01:29:07.000 Yeah, that's like fake wildlife.

01:29:09.000 I mean, wildlife, but not really wild.

01:29:11.000 Yeah.

01:29:12.000 Have you ever seen that video where the lady was in China and they were in one of those parks and she got in a fight with her boyfriend and she got out of the car and she got killed by a tiger?

01:29:19.000 No.

01:29:21.000 She actually, she didn't get killed.

01:29:22.000 Her mom got killed. 1.00

01:29:23.000 She's more fucked up. 1.00

01:29:24.000 Because her mom came out to rescue her. 1.00

01:29:26.000 She got snatched by the tiger. 1.00

01:29:28.000 And then her mom, watch this shit. 1.00

01:29:29.000 This is crazy. 1.00

01:29:30.000 Oh no, there's a video of it. 1.00

01:29:31.000 She's like, fuck you. 1.00

01:29:32.000 I'm fucking walking. 1.00

01:29:33.000 And they're like, hey, listen bitch, get back in the fucking car. 1.00

01:29:36.000 There's tigers out here. 1.00

01:29:37.000 She's like, no, no, no. 1.00

01:29:38.000 Fuck you and fuck him and fuck you. 1.00

01:29:40.000 And the tiger just grabs her, snatches her out. 1.00

01:29:42.000 So the guy runs out and then the mom runs out and apparently the mom got killed.

01:29:46.000 So here comes the mom. 1.00

01:29:47.000 That lady wound up dying. 1.00

01:29:50.000 Yeah, and there's a park ranger like, shit! 1.00

01:29:53.000 Yeah, when you get snatched up by a 600-pound cat. 1.00

01:29:57.000 Did you hear about that fucking dude in Colorado today? 1.00

01:29:59.000 He killed a mountain lion with his bare hands. 1.00

01:30:02.000 He smothered it to death.

01:30:03.000 Yeah.

01:30:03.000 It jacked him while he was jogging.

01:30:06.000 He was running on the trails.

01:30:07.000 The mountain lion grabbed him from behind.

01:30:09.000 He got in a struggle with his 80-pound cat and wound up suffocating it. 0.99

01:30:13.000 I can see this fucking badass jogger. 0.98

01:30:15.000 Yeah, I want to know what the jogger looks like. 1.00

01:30:17.000 Just holding that motherfucker by his neck. 1.00

01:30:19.000 Fuck you. 1.00

01:30:21.000 Fuck you. 1.00

01:30:23.000 It would have to be like Derek Lewis or someone, you know? 1.00

01:30:26.000 I can't picture anyone else being able to do that.

01:30:28.000 Maybe he's a jiu-jitsu guy.

01:30:29.000 Yeah, we see him.

01:30:30.000 I've seen him when my kids were really young in Calabasas where I live.

01:30:35.000 I saw one just pacing back and forth in my back fence.

01:30:38.000 Oh, Jesus.

01:30:40.000 Yeah.

01:30:40.000 They're out here, man.

01:30:41.000 Yeah.

01:30:41.000 They're out here.

01:30:42.000 I mean, we see coyotes and deer all the time, but mountain lions, that's next level scary.

01:30:47.000 Yeah.

01:30:47.000 A friend of mine just sent me a message this morning when I posted that thing on Instagram about that guy that killed it.

01:30:53.000 And he said he was running on this fire road and he realized, he like felt weird and looked over and 20 feet away from him was a big cat right above him on this ridge.

01:31:07.000 20 feet.

01:31:08.000 So that's basically us to that wall.

01:31:10.000 Yeah.

01:31:11.000 Big cat just looking.

01:31:12.000 And he said he waved his arms to look bigger and the thing just walked away.

01:31:18.000 I carry a knife when I run. 1.00

01:31:20.000 I carry a fucking half-faced blades. 1.00

01:31:24.000 It's got like a loop. 0.99

01:31:25.000 You can stick your thumb into it so it stays in your hand.

01:31:28.000 And people are like, why are you running with a knife? 0.99

01:31:31.000 What the fuck are you doing? 0.99

01:31:32.000 You don't need it until you do. 1.00

01:31:35.000 And when you do, you want to have it.

01:31:37.000 Didn't someone get attacked by a coyote in Hidden Hills running?

01:31:41.000 Did they?

01:31:41.000 I wouldn't be shocked.

01:31:43.000 I mean, I ran in my neighborhood before, and two coyotes ran right past me.

01:31:49.000 They're creeps.

01:31:50.000 Yeah, they usually don't mess with humans, you know?

01:31:52.000 Well, we had a problem with them killing chickens, because I have chickens in my yard.

01:31:56.000 I've lost a bunch of chickens to coyotes.

01:31:58.000 They were on top of the chicken coop, pulling tiles off of it. 1.00

01:32:02.000 They're creepy little fuckers, man. 1.00

01:32:03.000 But they're little. 1.00

01:32:05.000 These are like 35, 45 pounds.

01:32:07.000 They're not very big, but they're creepy.

01:32:10.000 They're little wolves, and they're looking at you, and they're trying to figure out a way, like, what can they eat, what can't they eat?

01:32:15.000 They're out there scraping, scraping and grinding.

01:32:18.000 They're sneaky, like, gangster.

01:32:20.000 Like, I saw one of my friends, a dear friend of mine, he lost both of his dogs to coyotes, and he had, I think he had, like, surveillance of it.

01:32:27.000 And one is in the yard and he's playing dead.

01:32:30.000 And then his dogs approach what they think is dead.

01:32:34.000 And then basically his homie comes out of nowhere and attacks. 1.00

01:32:39.000 And the one that's playing dead attacks. 0.74

01:32:42.000 And both of his dogs were a rat.

01:32:43.000 How big were his dogs?

01:32:45.000 Small.

01:32:45.000 I mean, they were smaller dogs, but now he has like big German Shepherds and he's, you know, he's kind of like got bigger dogs now, but it was really sad, man.

01:32:53.000 It is sad.

01:32:54.000 But they're very tactical, like very, very crazy.

01:32:58.000 Yeah, they figure out some way to work and cooperate together without communicating.

01:33:02.000 It's very interesting.

01:33:04.000 Yeah.

01:33:04.000 Like if it wasn't so sad that they're killing someone's pet, it's really kind of fascinating that they're so smart that they would play dead.

01:33:12.000 There was a guy that used to work at this pet store that I go to, and he also worked in a veterinary center, a medical place, and a pit bull came in, one of those big jack pit bulls, just covered in cuts.

01:33:26.000 It cuts all over its body. 0.97

01:33:27.000 And the owner was, you know, they asked the owner, like, what the fuck happened? 0.98

01:33:31.000 He goes, I don't know. 0.98

01:33:32.000 He goes, I came home, and he's covered in cuts.

01:33:34.000 I really have no idea what happened to him.

01:33:36.000 So they stitched the dog up, like hundreds of stitches all over the dog's body.

01:33:40.000 Then he takes a walk outside of his house and he follows his dog's blood.

01:33:45.000 And he goes up into the hills near his house and he finds nine dead coyotes.

01:33:51.000 That Pitbull was gangster.

01:33:53.000 Apparently.

01:33:54.000 He just went on a tear.

01:33:56.000 And he said it looked like Vietnam. 0.99

01:33:57.000 It looked like a fucking, like, Saving Private Ryan just ripped apart coyotes. 0.99

01:34:01.000 Nine of them. 1.00

01:34:02.000 This motherfucker just went mauling. 1.00

01:34:05.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:34:05.000 They must have been so bummed out. 1.00

01:34:07.000 They're like, we can get this dog.

01:34:08.000 Yeah, there's nine of us.

01:34:09.000 We're good.

01:34:10.000 We're good.

01:34:10.000 We got this guy.

01:34:11.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:34:11.000 And then you see this fucking fire hydrant head. 1.00

01:34:15.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:34:16.000 That doesn't feel pain.

01:34:18.000 They've engineered those things.

01:34:20.000 There's some pit bulls.

01:34:21.000 There's this pit bull, if you go on Instagram, I think it's IamtheHulk.

01:34:27.000 That's the name of the pit bull.

01:34:28.000 It's a 200-pound pit bull.

01:34:29.000 They've gotten them to 200 pounds now.

01:34:31.000 It's the most preposterous thing you've ever seen in your life.

01:34:34.000 It looks like...

01:34:38.000 Brock Lesnar if it was a pit bull.

01:34:40.000 It's like it doesn't even make any sense.

01:34:41.000 You look at it like that.

01:34:42.000 A pit bull used to be like a 35 pound dog.

01:34:45.000 They used to be small.

01:34:46.000 Look at that thing. 1.00

01:34:47.000 What in the fuck? 1.00

01:34:49.000 Imagine if a coyote saw that. 1.00

01:34:51.000 Fuck! 1.00

01:34:52.000 Look at that thing! 1.00

01:34:54.000 Bull mastiffs are fucking scary too. 0.99

01:34:56.000 Look at the size of that thing! 0.99

01:34:59.000 Yeah, I had a mastiff.

01:35:00.000 He passed away recently.

01:35:02.000 He was 13 years old.

01:35:04.000 Yeah, we had to put him down, man.

01:35:05.000 It was really sad.

01:35:06.000 He was a great dog.

01:35:09.000 Mastiffs are so sweet. 1.00

01:35:11.000 Like, look at the size of that fucking dog, man. 1.00

01:35:14.000 Fuck. 1.00

01:35:16.000 Just yoked, too. 1.00

01:35:17.000 It's a crazy 200-pound pit bull.

01:35:20.000 It's just so crazy that they make him that big now.

01:35:24.000 Like a 100 pound pit bull used to be a big...

01:35:26.000 I had a 90 pound one.

01:35:27.000 It was a big dog.

01:35:29.000 And I was like, wow, that's a big pit bull.

01:35:31.000 I'm like, yeah, that's a big pit bull.

01:35:32.000 This dog's 110 pounds bigger.

01:35:34.000 It doesn't even make any sense.

01:35:36.000 Wow. 1.00

01:35:40.000 It's a fucking tank! 1.00

01:35:42.000 Yeah, but that's one of my favorite coyote death stories. 1.00

01:35:46.000 This guy going up into the hills and finding all these dead coyotes just laying in a pile.

01:35:51.000 They try to ambush them.

01:35:52.000 What they would do, they try to get one to come out and try to get chased.

01:35:55.000 And then the one would run, and then the other ones would jump it.

01:35:58.000 They're like a gang, straight up.

01:36:00.000 That's crazy that they think like that, though.

01:36:03.000 They actually have strategies. 0.99

01:36:06.000 They're savages.

01:36:07.000 Yeah. 0.92

01:36:08.000 Well, that's like the downside of living in the suburbs.

01:36:12.000 The upside is you get a nice yard and you get a little view and...

01:36:15.000 Yeah, I love getting away from the city or like, you know, it's like studio or just chaos, whatever.

01:36:22.000 Just going home and being home.

01:36:23.000 Yeah, me too.

01:36:24.000 It's nice.

01:36:24.000 Do you keep a place up in Big Bay or anywhere?

01:36:28.000 I don't.

01:36:28.000 You ever go up there?

01:36:29.000 I don't really like traveling.

01:36:31.000 Really?

01:36:31.000 Nah.

01:36:32.000 After my accident, I fucking hate traveling. 0.99

01:36:34.000 Wow. 0.97

01:36:34.000 Like, I'll go on tour, but I won't even look at an itinerary before I go on tour. 0.97

01:36:39.000 I just kind of like, just tell me where to go.

01:36:41.000 I'll be up, I'll be where I need to be, but yeah.

01:36:44.000 Like, I don't want to, and I don't fly.

01:36:46.000 You know, I haven't flown since my accident.

01:36:48.000 Oh, wow.

01:36:49.000 So all your touring you do is by bus?

01:36:51.000 Yeah, by bus, and then I'll take the Queen Mary 2 to Europe, but...

01:36:55.000 No way!

01:36:56.000 Yeah.

01:36:56.000 Do you take a boat to Europe?

01:36:58.000 Yeah.

01:36:58.000 Imagine if your boat sunk.

01:37:00.000 I know. 1.00

01:37:00.000 And you're on a fucking float raft going, motherfucker! 1.00

01:37:03.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:37:04.000 Trust me.

01:37:05.000 But, you know what? 0.99

01:37:06.000 I'd rather be on the fucking raft than fucking plummeting into the ocean at 100 miles per hour or whatever. 0.99

01:37:12.000 Yeah, I feel ya. 1.00

01:37:14.000 That's crazy.

01:37:14.000 How long does that take?

01:37:15.000 I go to Laguna for quick getaways.

01:37:18.000 Just chill out with the family.

01:37:19.000 So if you guys have a gig in New York City, you have to start your journey five days early?

01:37:24.000 Yeah.

01:37:25.000 Wow.

01:37:25.000 Yeah.

01:37:26.000 But it's cool.

01:37:26.000 The kids and I get to see a lot of stuff we don't normally see.

01:37:29.000 Yeah.

01:37:29.000 But I got to really think about it.

01:37:31.000 Like that fucking fire festival that they had booked us on. 0.99

01:37:36.000 And I was like... 0.99

01:37:38.000 I'm so glad because I would have had to drive five or six days to Florida, to Fort Lauderdale, then get in a boat, and then get over to the Bahamas.

01:37:47.000 So thank God, man, because I was literally on my way there.

01:37:51.000 Wow.

01:37:52.000 So when you do that, do you actually drive yourself or do you have someone drive you?

01:37:55.000 No, I'd be white-knuckling driving the tour bus.

01:37:57.000 Have you driven a tour bus? 0.99

01:37:58.000 It's fucking scary, man. 0.99

01:38:00.000 Well, you're driving like this, right? 0.99

01:38:01.000 I've done it, like, when I was 19 or, like, 20, when I was on a tour, the driver let me drive. 0.98

01:38:07.000 And it was the scariest fucking thing. 0.99

01:38:09.000 I was like, take the fucking wheel, man. 1.00

01:38:11.000 This is so scary. 1.00

01:38:12.000 Like, white-knuckling.

01:38:14.000 Just being in control, being responsible over that big of a bus, and all of my homies, all your friends are sleeping in it.

01:38:22.000 Oh, yeah.

01:38:22.000 So it's like...

01:38:23.000 Oh, gosh, man.

01:38:24.000 I give it.

01:38:24.000 Bus drivers are...

01:38:25.000 It's a hard fucking job, you know? 1.00

01:38:27.000 It's a hard fucking job. 1.00

01:38:28.000 And they drive for, you know... 0.99

01:38:29.000 I think, you know, we usually do eight to ten hour days a day on the bus.

01:38:33.000 It's a long time.

01:38:34.000 It is a long time.

01:38:35.000 It's quite a drive.

01:38:36.000 And, you know, they have to stay awake and maintain their focus.

01:38:41.000 And I don't know about you, but when I see those white lines, there's something about that.

01:38:45.000 It's not good for me.

01:38:46.000 I start nodding.

01:38:48.000 Yeah, it's like hypnotizing us, right?

01:38:50.000 Yeah, it is hypnotizing.

01:38:50.000 It's hypnotizing for me.

01:38:51.000 Yeah, I could do like two or three hours and I'm cool.

01:38:53.000 I don't want to, you know.

01:38:54.000 San Diego is about as far as I want to drive.

01:38:56.000 Yeah, they're built different.

01:38:58.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:38:59.000 And I know, fuck, you know, they say it's way more dangerous to be on the road in a bus or in a car than be in a plane, but I don't know, one day. 0.99

01:39:07.000 I always say like if my kids want to fly one day, maybe I'll be down. 0.99

01:39:11.000 Yeah.

01:39:11.000 But the thought of me leaving to go...

01:39:14.000 Play some show or do something cool and something happening while they're at home like fucks me up.

01:39:20.000 Right.

01:39:20.000 So I don't really do it.

01:39:21.000 I know what you mean.

01:39:22.000 I can only imagine.

01:39:23.000 I mean, I don't think anybody's ever going to be able to understand what you've gone through with that kind of an ordeal.

01:39:29.000 A plane crash where your friends died and the pilots are dead and you managed to get out alive but almost lost your foot and burned half your body plus.

01:39:39.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:39:39.000 You know, fuck, man. 1.00

01:39:40.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:39:40.000 It's crippling, but I try not to let it be too much of a handicap. 1.00

01:39:44.000 Besides my traveling.

01:39:46.000 You seem like you gotta work around.

01:39:48.000 You figured it out. 1.00

01:39:49.000 But Australia can go fuck itself, huh? 1.00

01:39:51.000 I wish I could go. 1.00

01:39:52.000 Dude, I love Australia.

01:39:53.000 I love Japan. 1.00

01:39:54.000 Fuck, I love Japan. 0.99

01:39:56.000 Do you guys go there for UFC fights? 1.00

01:39:58.000 Yeah, I have been. 0.51

01:39:59.000 I fucking love it there, man.

01:40:00.000 We did a UFC in Tokyo once. 0.94

01:40:02.000 It was great.

01:40:02.000 I honestly wanted to move there.

01:40:04.000 Really?

01:40:05.000 Yeah, I loved it so much.

01:40:06.000 David Lee Roth moved there for a while.

01:40:08.000 Yeah?

01:40:08.000 He moved there to take sword fighting classes.

01:40:11.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00

01:40:12.000 Moved there with his dog, got an apartment. 1.00

01:40:14.000 Have you ever talked to him?

01:40:16.000 No. 1.00

01:40:16.000 He is one of the trippiest fucking guys. 1.00

01:40:18.000 I just got a message really recently that he wanted to talk to me, and so they gave me a phone number for him. 1.00

01:40:24.000 I sent him a text message and never heard back.

01:40:25.000 It's like, I might have to call him.

01:40:27.000 I don't want to miss it out.

01:40:29.000 So Dave, if you're listening, I tried twice.

01:40:32.000 But he said he wanted to get a hold of me for something, and they gave me a number to get a hold of him.

01:40:36.000 But he's one of the more interesting people I've ever talked to in my life.

01:40:40.000 He worked as an EMT for a while when he'd just gotten out of Van Halen.

01:40:44.000 Really?

01:40:44.000 Yes, like an actual EMT, like helping people.

01:40:48.000 Like, in New York. 0.99

01:40:49.000 And people are like, are you fucking David Lee Roth? 0.99

01:40:52.000 And they're like, yeah, yeah. 1.00

01:40:53.000 We're getting you in the ambulance.

01:40:55.000 Keep it together. 1.00

01:40:56.000 They're like strapping people to a gurney when they had accidents and shit. 1.00

01:41:01.000 Imagine you get in a car accident and fucking David Lee Roth is here to help you. 0.99

01:41:04.000 You're like, what? 1.00

01:41:05.000 I must be dead.

01:41:06.000 This isn't real life. 1.00

01:41:08.000 Imagine fucking David Lee Roth. 1.00

01:41:11.000 You're going to be fine, buddy. 1.00

01:41:13.000 That's legendary.

01:41:14.000 I love that.

01:41:14.000 He's a trip.

01:41:16.000 Yeah, that'd be a great interview.

01:41:17.000 Moved to Japan with his dog.

01:41:19.000 Just hung out there.

01:41:21.000 I go, what are you doing?

01:41:21.000 He's like, I'm taking kendo lessons.

01:41:23.000 Just taking sword fighting lessons from a Japanese master.

01:41:26.000 Whoa. 0.99

01:41:27.000 So every day he'd be taking fucking kendo. 1.00

01:41:30.000 Sick. 1.00

01:41:32.000 He's the real deal, man. 0.99

01:41:34.000 Yeah.

01:41:34.000 He's the real deal.

01:41:35.000 Like a real eccentric, but a really friendly, really interesting guy.

01:41:40.000 Yeah.

01:41:40.000 What a trip.

01:41:41.000 That's awesome.

01:41:41.000 Yeah.

01:41:43.000 I love when someone is like that.

01:41:46.000 Like your friend that hasn't talked for 22 years. 1.00

01:41:48.000 I love shit like that. 0.99

01:41:50.000 Yeah, you don't hear about that. 1.00

01:41:51.000 No. 1.00

01:41:52.000 Or someone that'll stop being in Van Halen to go fuck with swords. 1.00

01:41:56.000 Or Tom. 1.00

01:41:57.000 Yeah, to go fuck with aliens. 1.00

01:41:59.000 Yeah, fucks with aliens. 1.00

01:42:00.000 Do you think they're really bringing him to the Pentagon and shit like that? 1.00

01:42:04.000 I don't know. 0.97

01:42:05.000 I have no clue.

01:42:07.000 And I had watched a little bit of your podcast where you were like...

01:42:11.000 You sent me a text message.

01:42:13.000 Why are they picking you? 1.00

01:42:15.000 But I feel like he's made himself readily available to do that shit. 1.00

01:42:23.000 I don't know. 0.99

01:42:25.000 I sit and scratch my head and go, I don't know.

01:42:28.000 I don't know either.

01:42:29.000 He's such a talented dude too, man.

01:42:33.000 He's such a good songwriter.

01:42:35.000 Yeah.

01:42:36.000 Well, he certainly is.

01:42:37.000 He's certainly a very talented guy.

01:42:38.000 It's just so interesting that that's his main point of focus.

01:42:41.000 I would think that if aliens were real, Trump would have told us.

01:42:45.000 I really do believe that. 1.00

01:42:46.000 That guy, he's such a fucking loose cannon. 1.00

01:42:49.000 He became the president. 1.00

01:42:51.000 Maybe they hid it from him. 1.00

01:42:52.000 Or as fucking chaotic as shit is right now, I don't know, something would slip. 0.99

01:42:57.000 Yeah, I would think that if they told him... 0.99

01:43:00.000 If they brought him...

01:43:01.000 Those are two things I would want to know.

01:43:03.000 Who killed JFK? Those are two things I'd want to know if I became the president.

01:43:08.000 And are aliens real? 1.00

01:43:09.000 What do you got, motherfucker? 1.00

01:43:10.000 What do you got? 1.00

01:43:11.000 I go to the top generals.

01:43:12.000 I go, look, I'm going to defer to you guys.

01:43:14.000 I'm not a military expert, okay?

01:43:16.000 I don't want war, but I want you guys to have support.

01:43:20.000 I got full respect.

01:43:22.000 Tell me about the aliens.

01:43:23.000 What do you got?

01:43:24.000 What is this?

01:43:24.000 Trump orders the establishment of Space Force.

01:43:26.000 I mean, he did that.

01:43:27.000 That's right, the Space Force.

01:43:28.000 But that's because that's actually a military strategy because they're concerned that as technology improves, Russians are going to be in space and we're going to be in space.

01:43:39.000 Or fight off the aliens. 0.99

01:43:41.000 Right, like Will Smith type shit. 1.00

01:43:44.000 Yeah, look at him. 0.99

01:43:45.000 Yeah, Mike Pence is behind him going, Jesus is going to save us.

01:43:48.000 LAUGHTER Yeah, I don't know, man, but if I became president, I never will, but if I did, those are the two things that I'd want to know. 0.99

01:43:57.000 Who killed JFK, and where are the fucking aliens? 0.99

01:44:00.000 Do you think they know? 1.00

01:44:01.000 Do you think they know anything more than regular people?

01:44:04.000 Because you've got to feel like they come in every four years, someone would open their mouth.

01:44:08.000 Somebody knows.

01:44:09.000 Somebody knows.

01:44:10.000 What did Elon Musk say?

01:44:12.000 He's an alien.

01:44:13.000 Yeah.

01:44:14.000 So he's not going to rat on his friends, right?

01:44:17.000 Drive that car.

01:44:18.000 I'll give you the key.

01:44:18.000 Just take it for a tour.

01:44:19.000 Just take it for a spin out of here.

01:44:21.000 I will. 1.00

01:44:21.000 That fucking test will make you believe in aliens. 1.00

01:44:24.000 It doesn't even make sense. 1.00

01:44:25.000 It does not make sense.

01:44:29.000 I feel like I'm driving a computer when I'm in a Tesla.

01:44:31.000 It's insane. 1.00

01:44:32.000 It's like every car other than that seems stupid. 0.99

01:44:35.000 So is this the first one you've had? 0.99

01:44:37.000 Yes.

01:44:37.000 Wow.

01:44:38.000 And you're just completely in love with it?

01:44:40.000 Sold.

01:44:40.000 Wow.

01:44:41.000 Sold.

01:44:41.000 I drove one.

01:44:43.000 There was a rental car company that was sponsoring the podcast and it was like Uber for rental cars.

01:44:49.000 They would drop off a rental car and they would...

01:44:51.000 Do you remember the name of that company?

01:44:54.000 I don't know if they're around anymore.

01:44:55.000 Yeah, I'll look.

01:44:56.000 Anyway, I said, yeah, I want to try a Tesla.

01:44:59.000 And I drove it.

01:44:59.000 I was like, it was kind of interesting.

01:45:00.000 But this was years ago.

01:45:02.000 Maybe five years ago, was that?

01:45:04.000 Four years ago?

01:45:04.000 Five years ago?

01:45:07.000 It wasn't as impressive.

01:45:08.000 But now I got the Model S P100D. This is what he told me to get.

01:45:13.000 So I said, all right, I'll get it.

01:45:15.000 I drove that thing.

01:45:16.000 The moment I drove it, the first couple of feet, you're like, what is happening here?

01:45:22.000 Why is this going so fast?

01:45:23.000 It doesn't make sense.

01:45:24.000 It's effortless.

01:45:26.000 Like, effortless.

01:45:27.000 Like, every other car on the road has to accelerate.

01:45:29.000 It's like...

01:45:30.000 This guy's...

01:45:33.000 Wow.

01:45:34.000 It's instantaneously going 60 miles an hour.

01:45:37.000 Yeah.

01:45:37.000 I mean, it just feels like it's happening in like blink, blink, 60. Yeah.

01:45:41.000 And fucking smooth and you can't hear anything. 0.99

01:45:44.000 You don't hear anything. 0.99

01:45:45.000 It handles great. 1.00

01:45:46.000 It's quiet as shit. 0.99

01:45:47.000 It's comfortable. 1.00

01:45:49.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:45:50.000 I'm fucked! 1.00

01:45:51.000 Dude, I'm a gearhead! 1.00

01:45:52.000 I'm like you!

01:45:53.000 I know.

01:45:53.000 Do you still have that blazer?

01:45:55.000 Yeah.

01:45:55.000 Dude, that's dope.

01:45:56.000 Yeah, I tried building my icon version of a blazer.

01:46:00.000 Who built that for you?

01:46:02.000 His name was Delmo.

01:46:03.000 He was over here in the valley.

01:46:04.000 So he did the LS swap, and then I had another buddy of mine paint it, and then I just did ground up suspension.

01:46:12.000 But I feel like I should have replaced the chassis and done everything like that if I wanted it to be a true icon. 0.99

01:46:17.000 But it's a bad fucking truck. 0.98

01:46:19.000 It's so fun. 1.00

01:46:20.000 It's a dope looking truck.

01:46:21.000 There it is. 0.98

01:46:21.000 That is so sick. 0.98

01:46:22.000 It's so fun.

01:46:23.000 You know, Icon's done some blazers.

01:46:25.000 Yeah, I saw one they did afterwards.

01:46:27.000 Yeah.

01:46:27.000 Oh, so you have it.

01:46:28.000 It's a full convertible, no hard top. 0.99

01:46:30.000 God damn, that looks good, dude. 0.99

01:46:31.000 Yeah, I put a soft top on it, like a bikini top. 0.99

01:46:35.000 But summertime, I just take it all off.

01:46:37.000 But I have a roll cage too. 0.75

01:46:39.000 Sick.

01:46:39.000 I love it.

01:46:40.000 I love the lowered ones too, like the slammed ones.

01:46:42.000 They're so nice.

01:46:43.000 Yeah, go back to those though.

01:46:46.000 That's so nasty, man.

01:46:47.000 Is that the color?

01:46:47.000 You have like a matte?

01:46:48.000 Yeah, it's like a matte, like charcoal, Mercedes gray.

01:46:51.000 God, that looks good.

01:46:53.000 Yeah, it almost pops wheelies. 0.99

01:46:54.000 It's so fucking strong. 0.98

01:46:56.000 There's so much horsepower. 0.99

01:46:57.000 Which engine did they put in there?

01:46:59.000 An LS3. Oh, okay.

01:47:01.000 How many horsepower is that?

01:47:02.000 I think I'm at like 700. That's so ridiculous. 0.95

01:47:06.000 That's so ridiculous. 0.98

01:47:07.000 But besides that, you know, I had like 16 old schools. 0.74

01:47:10.000 I actually fell out of love with them.

01:47:13.000 It's kind of weird.

01:47:13.000 Or I think I've spent my time with them, and I'm ready to separate from them and move on and maybe get other stuff.

01:47:21.000 I don't know.

01:47:22.000 I feel like it was a moment in time, though.

01:47:23.000 I was like...

01:47:25.000 Kind of like hood rich in a sense, where I put all my money into cars.

01:47:28.000 Right.

01:47:29.000 Like, before I ever bought a house, I had like four caddies, you know?

01:47:33.000 And I was living in like a two-story, a two-bedroom house, you know, with a bunch of friends.

01:47:38.000 Dude, that old red one behind you is dope. 1.00

01:47:40.000 What is that?

01:47:41.000 Yeah, I still have that 53 Chevy truck.

01:47:43.000 Oh, that looks so cool.

01:47:45.000 It's bad.

01:47:45.000 Icon does some of those too.

01:47:47.000 You ever see the Thriftmaster?

01:47:49.000 Yeah, Thriftmaster is so tough.

01:47:50.000 He's got one for sale right now.

01:47:52.000 I saw it.

01:47:53.000 Yeah, somebody had one built and then just never drove it.

01:47:56.000 And he's selling it.

01:47:58.000 It is nasty. 1.00

01:47:59.000 Dude, I go over there and window shop all the fucking time. 0.99

01:48:02.000 Have you met him? 0.99

01:48:02.000 Yeah, he's super cool. 0.99

01:48:03.000 He's very cool.

01:48:04.000 Bro, he drove me in the Thriftmaster.

01:48:05.000 That one's available right now. 1.00

01:48:07.000 Look at that fucking thing. 0.99

01:48:08.000 He drove me in one of those and was like hitting corners at 70. Like, I fucking almost lost my breath. 1.00

01:48:13.000 I was like, this motherfucker is crazy. 1.00

01:48:16.000 But they really do perform. 1.00

01:48:18.000 They're great fucking cars. 1.00

01:48:19.000 Even my Bronco, even though it's so high, it's so high off the ground, you would think that thing handles like shit. 1.00

01:48:24.000 It handles really good for something like that. 0.98

01:48:27.000 Is it like stock, how it comes from Icon?

01:48:29.000 Like that same height?

01:48:30.000 Or did you do anything to it?

01:48:31.000 Stock, yeah.

01:48:32.000 Yeah, he just does them all that way.

01:48:35.000 And I was originally going to get an FJ made from him. 0.96

01:48:38.000 And I went there and I saw the Bronco in person with that matte silver and I was like, holy shit. 0.94

01:48:43.000 Oh, is that what you did? 1.00

01:48:44.000 I go, scrap the fucking FJ. We need to get this going. 1.00

01:48:48.000 So did you do the whole build out?

01:48:50.000 How long did it take?

01:48:53.000 Well, you're on a waiting list for a long time, and then I think the build took close to a year.

01:48:58.000 It's like close to a year. 0.96

01:48:59.000 I'm so fucking impatient. 0.92

01:49:01.000 Yeah, me too. 1.00

01:49:01.000 Fuck. 1.00

01:49:02.000 But the key is like have it in the, then just forget about it. 1.00

01:49:04.000 Yeah.

01:49:05.000 Because then time goes by.

01:49:06.000 Do you drive it a lot?

01:49:07.000 All the time.

01:49:07.000 I drive to the comedy store like two or three nights a week.

01:49:10.000 But since I got the Tesla, I'm telling you, man.

01:49:13.000 Really?

01:49:13.000 It's ruined me.

01:49:14.000 Fuck. 1.00

01:49:14.000 It's ruined me. 1.00

01:49:15.000 I'm a gearhead.

01:49:16.000 Yeah.

01:49:17.000 I like old school cars.

01:49:18.000 I have a 65 Corvette with an LS1 supercharged.

01:49:21.000 I drive that all the time.

01:49:22.000 Side pipe.

01:49:23.000 You know, that cool silver shape.

01:49:25.000 I love it. 0.98

01:49:26.000 But it seems so dumb. 0.98

01:49:27.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:49:28.000 It seems so dumb once you drive a Tesla. 0.95

01:49:29.000 Wow. 0.94

01:49:30.000 It's effortless, dude.

01:49:31.000 It just goes.

01:49:33.000 It's like you're on Fast Forward.

01:49:35.000 I need to check it out.

01:49:36.000 Everybody else is living in the past.

01:49:38.000 Yeah, like maybe last year, I used to have the Wraith, like the Rolls Royce.

01:49:43.000 Oh, that's a sick car.

01:49:45.000 It's a bad car, yeah.

01:49:45.000 Did you have the ceiling with all the lights?

01:49:47.000 Yeah.

01:49:48.000 It looks like space.

01:49:49.000 It was so sick, but my buddy John said, hey, let's swap cars wherever we were driving, so I did.

01:49:55.000 And I was really impressed.

01:49:58.000 It was really, really fast.

01:50:00.000 Which one did he have?

01:50:01.000 Did he have the 100D? I imagine it's the one before the one you're talking about because it was a couple years ago.

01:50:06.000 Those were fast.

01:50:08.000 Yeah, but it was still impressive, you know?

01:50:09.000 Yeah, those were fast. 1.00

01:50:11.000 They're still fast, but this one is fucking stupid. 1.00

01:50:14.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:50:14.000 It doesn't make sense. 1.00

01:50:16.000 It's like you're defying what you think a thing can do. 0.99

01:50:20.000 And it has that big fucking screen where it has all your information. 0.99

01:50:23.000 Yeah, everything. 1.00

01:50:24.000 Yeah, they're dope. 0.85

01:50:27.000 He's definitely a legend, man.

01:50:29.000 Elon Musk. 1.00

01:50:30.000 I got his blowtorch, too, like his fucking... 1.00

01:50:32.000 Right there, man. 1.00

01:50:33.000 You got one?

01:50:33.000 Nice.

01:50:34.000 He lit that fucking thing up in the hallway out here. 0.99

01:50:37.000 No. 0.99

01:50:37.000 Yeah, I thought he was going to burn the building down. 0.99

01:50:39.000 I haven't even lit mine.

01:50:39.000 I'm so afraid.

01:50:40.000 My son's like an animal.

01:50:42.000 I don't want him to know how to turn it on. 1.00

01:50:43.000 Yeah, he gave it to me and put the fucking fuel in it and everything. 0.99

01:50:48.000 I was like, alright, thanks. 1.00

01:50:49.000 That's crazy.

01:50:51.000 He comes bearing gifts.

01:50:52.000 Yeah.

01:50:52.000 How many people give you a blowgun, a blowtorch gun?

01:50:55.000 I know.

01:50:56.000 What would you call it?

01:50:57.000 Torch gun?

01:50:58.000 What would you call it?

01:50:58.000 It's not a blowtorch.

01:51:00.000 Right.

01:51:00.000 No, what does he call it?

01:51:01.000 It's not a...

01:51:02.000 It's not a blowtorch.

01:51:03.000 Yeah, not a blowtorch.

01:51:04.000 Is that what it's called?

01:51:06.000 I believe so.

01:51:07.000 Yeah.

01:51:08.000 Yeah.

01:51:08.000 Whatever it is.

01:51:10.000 There's a crazy picture online that we put up of him shooting that fucking thing out in the hallway. 0.99

01:51:16.000 And you're like, you can't tell him no. 0.99

01:51:18.000 No one tells him no. 1.00

01:51:19.000 He's got security around him and all these fucking mercenaries with guns. 0.99

01:51:24.000 No one's saying anything. 1.00

01:51:25.000 He rolls hard, dude.

01:51:27.000 He's Elon Musk.

01:51:28.000 Yeah.

01:51:28.000 He's worth billions.

01:51:29.000 Everywhere he goes.

01:51:30.000 I mean, he's got to have security everywhere.

01:51:32.000 Guys come before him and case everything out.

01:51:35.000 Yeah, look at him.

01:51:38.000 What an iconic photo.

01:51:41.000 With the freak party sign above his head.

01:51:43.000 It's almost like we planned it.

01:51:45.000 And Steven Tyler, that's Steven Tyler's mugshot in the background. 0.95

01:51:50.000 Crazy, man. 1.00

01:51:51.000 The outtakes from your guy's interview, too, where he's just, like, fucking stoned beyond his mind and shit. 1.00

01:51:56.000 It's so great. 0.99

01:51:56.000 I don't think he got stoned. 0.99

01:51:58.000 He didn't?

01:51:58.000 I don't think he really inhaled.

01:51:59.000 He took, like, a tiny puff.

01:52:01.000 I think he puffed it like a cigar.

01:52:03.000 Oh, okay.

01:52:04.000 I don't think he really smokes weed.

01:52:05.000 Didn't inhale?

01:52:06.000 He drinks.

01:52:07.000 We drank.

01:52:08.000 That's what was interesting about that.

01:52:10.000 The blowback or the backlash is that we drank for two hours before we even busted out the weed.

01:52:16.000 But the weed was like, what are they doing?

01:52:18.000 The guy takes one hit of weed.

01:52:19.000 What are they doing?

01:52:21.000 And then it went crazy and stock plummeted 6%.

01:52:25.000 But it went back up to 9% the next day.

01:52:28.000 And you're supposed to smoke before you drink, right?

01:52:31.000 I don't know. 0.99

01:52:31.000 Because I think you get really fucked up if you don't smoke a lot and you smoke after you've been drinking. 0.99

01:52:35.000 Really? 0.99

01:52:36.000 It's a wrap.

01:52:36.000 Yeah.

01:52:37.000 Oh, yeah?

01:52:38.000 I don't know.

01:52:39.000 I don't think it affected him.

01:52:41.000 His brain is wired so different.

01:52:46.000 You know what his brain is like?

01:52:48.000 No disrespect to Pete Holmes, but you know Pete Holmes, the comedian.

01:52:53.000 Look at his body and then look at Usain Bolt's.

01:52:56.000 That's how I feel if they had a race.

01:52:59.000 That's how I feel with my brain in the room with Elon's brain.

01:53:03.000 These are barely the same thing.

01:53:06.000 They're barely the same thing.

01:53:07.000 Nah, man.

01:53:07.000 You keep up, man.

01:53:08.000 You've had some crazy guests that are talking about atoms and fucking the universe and whatever else, and you're always... 0.99

01:53:14.000 You keep up with everybody. 0.99

01:53:16.000 It's an illusion.

01:53:17.000 I don't know.

01:53:18.000 I just memorize things. 0.99

01:53:20.000 Yeah, I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. 0.75

01:53:21.000 They understand the actual concepts. 0.94

01:53:23.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:53:23.000 I might be able to repeat things that I've learned and read, but I don't know what the fuck I'm really talking about. 0.98

01:53:28.000 They know what the fuck they're... 0.99

01:53:29.000 You know what I'm saying? 0.99

01:53:30.000 It's like, if someone never did jiu-jitsu before, and they want to talk about...

01:53:34.000 Choking someone out in a triangle, and I hear them say it, I'm like, okay, yay, that's how you do it.

01:53:39.000 That's how you do it.

01:53:40.000 But they don't really know how to do it.

01:53:42.000 You know what I'm saying? 1.00

01:53:42.000 But then, if you talk to Hoist Gracie, and he tells you how to choke someone out with a triangle, like, this motherfucker did it. 1.00

01:53:48.000 He knows how to do it. 1.00

01:53:49.000 He does it all the time.

01:53:51.000 It's a different conversation.

01:53:53.000 So that's the difference.

01:53:54.000 Me, I'm like a spectator talking to these geniuses.

01:53:57.000 Right.

01:53:58.000 I'm just trying to pull information out of them.

01:54:00.000 I'm just trying to get them to talk.

01:54:02.000 I just try to know a little bit about what they're talking about.

01:54:06.000 The guys that were on, I don't know, what was it last week?

01:54:09.000 The guys that were talking about longevity, like living a long time?

01:54:12.000 Yeah, David Sinclair.

01:54:13.000 Yeah, that was pretty crazy.

01:54:15.000 Fascinating, right?

01:54:16.000 Yeah, super fascinating.

01:54:18.000 Yeah, I'm glad there's people like that out there.

01:54:20.000 I think within the next 15 to 20 years, people are going to start going back in aging, like legitimately. 0.99

01:54:25.000 They're going to be able to not just slow down aging, but we're going to see like 60-year-old ladies that are hot as fuck. 1.00

01:54:33.000 We're going to see 60-year-old ladies that look like they're 32. I really believe that. 0.99

01:54:36.000 Yeah, I do too.

01:54:37.000 Coming around the corner.

01:54:38.000 Especially how he was talking about that diabetic medicine that he takes.

01:54:42.000 Metformin.

01:54:43.000 Yeah.

01:54:43.000 Yeah, but apparently that stuff has negative impacts on athletic performance.

01:54:48.000 It's one of the things that I was curious about when he discussed it.

01:54:51.000 And Dr. Rhonda Patrick sent me something on it, and Ben Greenfield actually brought it up on the podcast we did a couple days afterwards.

01:54:58.000 Yeah, it's probably good for longevity but not good for athletic performance, which is...

01:55:04.000 I'm not willing to make that sacrifice.

01:55:06.000 Yeah, and he's probably not really concerned with athletic performance.

01:55:09.000 No.

01:55:09.000 No, he barely worked out.

01:55:10.000 And he wasn't into working out hard either.

01:55:13.000 His deal is like just maintain a little bit of exercise just to kind of keep the blood moving.

01:55:19.000 But a lot of those guys that are these super genius...

01:55:26.000 We're good to go.

01:55:35.000 We're good to go.

01:55:47.000 I'm more in line with that, but I want to know what these guys are working on, like the David Sinclairs of the world, because he's at the tip of the spear when it comes to longevity and gene editing.

01:56:01.000 What they're talking about is being able to inject certain genes or bacteria that carry genes.

01:56:09.000 It's going to fix eyesight.

01:56:12.000 That's crazy.

01:56:13.000 Like, people that are blind are going to be able to see again. 1.00

01:56:16.000 Like, yeah. 1.00

01:56:17.000 They're going to be able to do some mad, mad shit. 1.00

01:56:20.000 As long as human beings don't, we don't figure out, I mean, we don't nuke ourselves or fuck the world to a point where, you know, scientific research halts. 0.99

01:56:30.000 If these guys can keep going, if we can make it to the next 50 years, people are probably going to live to be 300 years old.

01:56:36.000 Wow.

01:56:37.000 Yeah.

01:56:39.000 Nuts.

01:56:39.000 I'm down.

01:56:40.000 I love it. 0.99

01:56:41.000 How fucking smart people are going to be if they're 300? 0.99

01:56:43.000 I mean, think about how smart you are compared to when you were 20. Yeah. 0.99

01:56:46.000 I was a dummy. 0.94

01:56:47.000 Me too. 1.00

01:56:48.000 I was so dumb. 0.99

01:56:49.000 I was so dumb, I'm amazed I'm still here. 0.99

01:56:51.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:56:52.000 I got to stop and think about how I used to drive.

01:56:55.000 Oh, same.

01:56:59.000 Now, you have old schools.

01:57:00.000 Do you have hot rods?

01:57:02.000 Do you have any hot rods?

01:57:03.000 Nah, pretty much like slow and low, like old schools.

01:57:06.000 Those are safer.

01:57:07.000 Yeah, I had a couple Impalas.

01:57:08.000 I just got rid of two of my Impalas.

01:57:11.000 And I have like a 53 Caddy.

01:57:13.000 I still have.

01:57:14.000 I have a 64, a 60, a 53 truck, and a 41 Caddy.

01:57:22.000 41 cab.

01:57:23.000 Yeah, it's nice, man. 0.95

01:57:24.000 It's really fucking nice. 0.94

01:57:26.000 But it's like a three-speed, you know what I mean? 0.97

01:57:27.000 Like, it's like, it's, you know, no power steering.

01:57:32.000 It's like, yeah, you gotta know how to drive.

01:57:34.000 So, yeah, I still have a couple that I'm holding on to, but I really...

01:57:38.000 No power steering?

01:57:38.000 The steering wheel must be giant.

01:57:40.000 It's gigantic.

01:57:41.000 It's so sketchy to drive.

01:57:43.000 But yeah, I'm gonna bring a couple out.

01:57:46.000 I have a festival that happens in March called Musink that's like tattoos, music, and cars.

01:57:52.000 Oh, wow.

01:57:52.000 So I bring a couple of them out there.

01:57:54.000 Where's that at?

01:57:55.000 Orange County Fairgrounds.

01:57:57.000 Oh, alright.

01:57:57.000 Yeah.

01:57:58.000 Nice, nice.

01:57:59.000 Yeah.

01:57:59.000 So, but yeah, but I'm slowly, I really just, I don't know, I want a simpler life, man.

01:58:04.000 I want to be able to get in a car and not worry about if it fucking breaks down and I can get to point A to point B with how busy I am.

01:58:10.000 I don't know. 0.99

01:58:11.000 Dude, stay the fuck away from that Tesla. 1.00

01:58:13.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:58:13.000 I'm telling you, it'll ruin you. 0.99

01:58:15.000 Oh yeah, there she is. 0.98

01:58:16.000 That's yours.

01:58:16.000 Wow, that's beautiful, man.

01:58:18.000 Yeah.

01:58:18.000 What a car.

01:58:19.000 I mean, what a, like, not just a car, but a window into time.

01:58:25.000 Yeah.

01:58:26.000 That's history.

01:58:26.000 I mean...

01:58:27.000 Back in 1941, that's what people drove, man. 1.00

01:58:30.000 That was the shit back then. 0.98

01:58:32.000 People tooling around Manhattan in one of those. 0.99

01:58:34.000 Yeah, I love seeing those, you know, the movies that take place during those timers and they find all those classics.

01:58:40.000 So cool.

01:58:41.000 You know what was great?

01:58:42.000 The more recent version of The Great Gatsby with Leonardo DiCaprio when they drove those cars, but it was a weird movie because they made those cars almost like modern.

01:58:52.000 It was very strange.

01:58:53.000 That's how Romeo and Juliet was, too.

01:58:55.000 The one with...

01:58:56.000 The one with Leonardo?

01:58:57.000 You know what I'm talking about?

01:58:58.000 Did you notice that?

01:58:59.000 All the guns in there were super ill?

01:59:01.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:59:01.000 All the cars?

01:59:02.000 Sick.

01:59:04.000 It was futuristic? 0.56

01:59:05.000 Yeah, some weird interpretation.

01:59:07.000 But still time period correct, right? 0.99

01:59:09.000 Yeah, so that's time period correct, but when he drove that car, it drove like no fucking car. 0.98

01:59:15.000 See if you can find a scene... 0.98

01:59:21.000 Yeah.

01:59:35.000 Oh yeah, because they don't move like that.

01:59:36.000 No, especially when they're on the road.

01:59:38.000 Yeah, unless you do an LS swap and you redo everything. 0.99

01:59:41.000 When they're on the road, these fucking cars didn't drive like that, man. 1.00

01:59:45.000 They had skinny-ass bullshit tires. 1.00

01:59:49.000 They barely could break. 1.00

01:59:51.000 You hit the brakes, it took forever to slow down.

01:59:54.000 That was a great movie, though.

01:59:56.000 Yeah, those are sick. 1.00

01:59:58.000 Yeah, see, they're all going sideways around corners and shit. 1.00

02:00:00.000 Nobody did that back then. 0.95

02:00:02.000 It was weird.

02:00:03.000 It's weird how they do that with movies where they're having a race.

02:00:08.000 Yeah, we're racing. 1.00

02:00:10.000 I mean, when that electric car outside will blow by these motherfuckers. 1.00

02:00:16.000 The problem with those Teslas... 1.00

02:00:19.000 Is that once you get in one, other cars just seem kind of dumb. 0.99

02:00:24.000 They seem kind of old. 0.99

02:00:26.000 Oh, I bet.

02:00:27.000 I feel like you're stepping into the future when you drive those.

02:00:30.000 Anything else wouldn't seem even up to date, you know?

02:00:33.000 But there's something about cars like your 41 Cadillac that have a theme to them that you're never going to get from a new car.

02:00:41.000 Yeah, you know what's cool about those is like, when you're in those, you're not concerned with whatever's on the radio or talking on the phone or...

02:00:49.000 I don't know.

02:00:50.000 You're content with just hearing the car and driving.

02:00:53.000 Driving is fun.

02:00:55.000 Whereas if you're just in a 2019 Chevy truck, you're not going to feel like that.

02:01:01.000 But if you take it that far back, just the smell of them, everything, it's a vibe.

02:01:06.000 I don't know.

02:01:08.000 You can't compare it to anything.

02:01:09.000 Yeah, when I bought my 65 Corvette, the first thing I did was pull the radio out.

02:01:12.000 I said, get that out of here. 1.00

02:01:14.000 I don't want to hear that radio.

02:01:15.000 It's unnecessary, really.

02:01:16.000 Yeah.

02:01:17.000 I want to hear those side pipes and the wind.

02:01:20.000 Yeah.

02:01:21.000 But it's going to be a thing of the past, man.

02:01:24.000 I really firmly believe that now after driving this car.

02:01:27.000 I think 50 years from now, those things are going to be...

02:01:30.000 It's going to be like seeing some guy drive by on a Model T. Yeah.

02:01:34.000 Engines are going to be a thing of the past. 0.82

02:01:35.000 It's probably better for the environment anyway.

02:01:37.000 Oh, for sure.

02:01:40.000 Anyway, I think that's it.

02:01:43.000 Let's wrap this up.

02:01:44.000 Dope.

02:01:44.000 Dude, thank you so much.

02:01:45.000 Oh, it was a pleasure.

02:01:46.000 Really glad we got together, man.

02:01:47.000 I really appreciate you, man.

02:01:48.000 Of course.

02:01:48.000 It was very cool talking to you.

02:01:49.000 Awesome.

02:01:50.000 Likewise.

02:01:51.000 Social media, your Instagram is just Travis Barker.

02:01:54.000 Travis Barker.

02:01:55.000 And do you use Twitter as well, or just...

02:01:57.000 Yeah, same, Travis Barker.

02:01:58.000 Travis Barker.

02:01:59.000 Beautiful.

02:01:59.000 Thank you, brother.

02:02:00.000 Really appreciate it, man.

02:02:01.000 It was fun.

02:02:01.000 Thank you.

The Joe Rogan Experience - February 05, 2019

Joe Rogan Experience #1239 - Travis Barker

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