The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #125 - Giorgio A. Tsoukalos, Eddie Bravo

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00:00:25.000 Giorgio is in the house from Ancient Aliens.

00:00:28.000 Eddie Bravo is in the house.

00:00:30.000 Red Band's in the house. 1.00

00:00:32.000 Buckle up, bitches. 1.00

00:00:34.000 Mr. Tsoukalos is ready to throw the fuck down. 1.00

00:00:40.000 This is the magic of fucking Twitter, ladies and gentlemen, and the internet. 1.00

00:00:44.000 Just something happened. 0.98

00:00:45.000 I don't remember what we were tweeting about, but all of a sudden, Giorgio tweets me back, and I tweet him, and I say, you want to do my podcast? 0.97

00:00:52.000 And he says, fuck yeah, and boom! 0.72

00:00:54.000 And then we meet in Vegas, and we're hanging out in Vegas like we've known each other forever. 0.99

00:00:59.000 Yeah, we had a good time. 0.99

00:00:59.000 A great fucking time. 0.99

00:01:01.000 Thank you, dude. 0.99

00:01:02.000 That was a lot of fucking fun, man. 0.96

00:01:04.000 Giorgio's a cool cat. 0.97

00:01:06.000 And, I mean, one of my favorite shows of all time.

00:01:10.000 I love that Ancient Aliens.

00:01:11.000 I've got a big stack of them.

00:01:12.000 I don't necessarily agree with everything, but I don't think you do either.

00:01:15.000 I think it's a lot of who knows, right?

00:01:17.000 Absolutely.

00:01:17.000 I mean, that's what I've got from you talking to you in Vegas.

00:01:21.000 I was like, man, maybe this dude's crazy.

00:01:22.000 Maybe he's going to tell me Atlantis was a spaceship and it flew away.

00:01:25.000 You know what I mean?

00:01:26.000 But you were, like, really open to any possibility, which I truly admire in a person. 0.99

00:01:32.000 You know, so many people are married to their fucking ideas. 0.99

00:01:35.000 Even preposterous ideas. 1.00

00:01:37.000 Like, you know, that David Icke guy really fucking believes that there's reptilians that are running this planet. 0.91

00:01:42.000 You know, like, and he says he's got facts and information. 1.00

00:01:45.000 Motherfucker, have you seen a reptilian? 0.99

00:01:47.000 If you haven't, how can you be sure? 1.00

00:01:49.000 How can you be...

00:01:51.000 When you hear stuff like that, you're in the business of this wild, crazy UFO world where so many people look down on anything that's even remotely outside of the mainstream.

00:02:05.000 Oh, that gets ridiculed. 0.98

00:02:06.000 But when you see a guy like David Icke, do you ever say, I wonder if this motherfucker works for the government? 1.00

00:02:12.000 Because he says so much cool shit, and so much shit that makes sense, and then he starts talking about reptilians. 1.00

00:02:18.000 And you've got to go, well, that's classic disinformation. 1.00

00:02:21.000 That's like the move. 0.97

00:02:22.000 That's like, you know, if you want to piss in the well, What you do is you throw a bunch of shit in there that really makes sense, like the CIA killed JFK, and, you know, we were in Vietnam for money, and the military industrial complex really does run things, just like Eisenhower said. 0.99

00:02:39.000 Plus, there's a base on the moon, and we've been going there telepathically for years, and what we do is we have a place where we go where we teleport people, and you have to be naked, and that's why women aren't allowed to be on the base. 1.00

00:02:49.000 And then you go, what the fuck are you talking about, man? 0.99

00:02:52.000 And by throwing all that wacky shit in there, you kind of piss on all the stuff that is interesting. 1.00

00:02:58.000 Because, you know, you can say, well, wait a minute, this guy said that the CIA killed Kennedy, but didn't he also talk about the wacky shit on the moon? 1.00

00:03:06.000 Right? 0.99

00:03:07.000 Yeah, no, absolutely.

00:03:08.000 So, I mean, to me, it's a very easy solution.

00:03:12.000 You go with your gut feeling, because there are people out there that say some really crazy stuff, but at the same time, some of the stuff they do say also carries some merit.

00:03:23.000 Right.

00:03:23.000 So, you know...

00:03:24.000 That's a problem, though, isn't it, though?

00:03:26.000 Of course it is.

00:03:27.000 But you know what?

00:03:27.000 At the end of the day, you just have to let it go and be like, all right, that's what those people are talking about.

00:03:34.000 I'm not going to, you know, subscribe to it.

00:03:36.000 I think it's crazy, whatever, but that's your own choice.

00:03:39.000 Because in the end, we all make a choice of what we believe in, what ideas we subscribe to, and if some of that stuff is crazy, guess what?

00:03:50.000 I mean, if you look at Science Today, a science book, there are all these different theories in there and ideas, and it's pretty much the cutting edge of knowledge.

00:04:03.000 But if you look at a textbook from 200 years ago, which was published at a university, that too was considered the cutting edge of knowledge at the time.

00:04:13.000 Now, if you look at that textbook today, 200 years later, and 99% of that knowledge in there is obsolete.

00:04:20.000 Is that true?

00:04:21.000 Like, what has been really disproven?

00:04:23.000 Like, what field has been completely reworked over the last 200 years?

00:04:27.000 So there's the old stuff that's useless.

00:04:28.000 You know, most stuff gets updated.

00:04:30.000 But how much of it is, like, completely obsolete, I wonder?

00:04:33.000 Well, you know, I mean, it all comes down to, you know, medicine.

00:04:37.000 Right.

00:04:37.000 There were certain procedures that at the time were considered to be, you know, perfect.

00:04:41.000 Sure.

00:04:42.000 Like radiation treatment.

00:04:46.000 We're actually broadcasting this from the station on Mars, ladies and gentlemen.

00:04:53.000 Yeah, this is telepathically done. 1.00

00:04:55.000 Yeah, shit. 1.00

00:05:00.000 Shit goes down. 1.00

00:05:02.000 It gets ugly. 1.00

00:05:02.000 You know the thing you said about David Icke, Alex Jones. 1.00

00:05:05.000 Alex Jones.

00:05:06.000 He, David Icke, totally think he was a show.

00:05:09.000 He was on YouTube calling him a show.

00:05:11.000 And now they're friends.

00:05:12.000 And they go on each other's shows.

00:05:14.000 But we know Alex.

00:05:15.000 I wanted you to hang out with Alex that one weekend in Vegas because you're a big Alex Jones fan.

00:05:19.000 I'm like, listen, brother, I love Alex, too.

00:05:21.000 I love Alex, too.

00:05:22.000 But come on, let's hang out with the dude.

00:05:24.000 And then you get a better sense of what Alex...

00:05:26.000 Alex Jones is Alex Jones 24-7. 0.98

00:05:28.000 Whether it's there's a fucking conspiracy to keep him from getting a cigarette or she's trying to keep me from that beer. 0.98

00:05:34.000 This woman who works at the bar knows I want a beer, sees me, avoids me, avoids eye contact. 0.99

00:05:40.000 Probably been told by the management to keep me from having a beer.

00:05:43.000 It was about the tickets.

00:05:44.000 Remember the tickets?

00:05:45.000 Everything.

00:05:45.000 Anything.

00:05:46.000 He was worried that we weren't really going to get him the UFC tickets.

00:05:48.000 I'm like, brother, you're good.

00:05:50.000 You're my friend.

00:05:50.000 We're cool.

00:05:52.000 He's a great guy.

00:05:54.000 He's a great guy. 0.98

00:05:54.000 But he's crazy. 0.98

00:05:55.000 You know? 1.00

00:05:56.000 And you have to be crazy to dig for the truth that much. 1.00

00:05:59.000 And like I say about Alex, he's right about a lot of shit. 0.99

00:06:02.000 I don't know what the percentage is. 0.99

00:06:03.000 I always throw out a number, like he's right about 70%. 0.98

00:06:06.000 But the 30% fucks him. 0.78

00:06:07.000 That he just, you know, kind of fills in the blanks. 0.98

00:06:10.000 There's a lot of filling in the blanks.

00:06:11.000 But the 70% that he's, or whatever number it is, that he is right. 0.98

00:06:15.000 It's worth it.

00:06:15.000 It's shocking.

00:06:16.000 And he's a perfect example of what you were talking about before.

00:06:19.000 Like, where you have to kind of, like, use your own filter.

00:06:22.000 There's a lot of stuff that he says that has an incredible amount of merit.

00:06:25.000 It's absolutely correct.

00:06:26.000 And there's some stuff that he says.

00:06:27.000 You just go, what? 1.00

00:06:28.000 What the fuck are you talking about? 1.00

00:06:30.000 He gets crazy. 1.00

00:06:31.000 He doesn't go reptilian crazy, but he gets deep in.

00:06:33.000 New world order.

00:06:34.000 He gets, like, eugenics crazy.

00:06:37.000 He gets, like, he's sure they have a population decrease plan where they're going to kill off I'm not saying it's outside the realm of possibility.

00:07:04.000 Your business, though, is filled with that.

00:07:07.000 I mean, look, there are hundreds of billions of stars in this galaxy, and we have already spotted so many of them over the last couple decades, or a couple years, rather, that are in the Goldilocks zone, where they know could possibly inhabit life.

00:07:21.000 They spotted...

00:07:22.000 I don't know what the number are, but it increases all the time.

00:07:25.000 They're constantly finding planets that could possibly support life, and planets that are older than ours, by a billion years plus.

00:07:33.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:07:34.000 And the fascinating thing is that, you know, in the 60s and 70s, when Eric Von Daniken first wrote Chariots of the Gods, you know, the general consensus in the 60s and 70s was that this discussion was even more taboo than it is today, obviously.

00:07:49.000 But back then...

00:07:50.000 You know, it was like, you know, maybe we're alone in the universe and there was only a handful like Frank Drake and Carl Sagan who proposed the idea or dabbled with the idea that, you know, we might not be the only ones in the universe.

00:08:03.000 In the mainstream legitimate scientific academic community.

00:08:08.000 You'd be hard-pressed to find any scientist or any astronomer or astrophysicist that will tell you that they think we're alone in the universe.

00:08:17.000 So we've definitely switched where it's almost a given now that everyone thinks that their intelligent life exists in the universe.

00:08:27.000 However, the big taboo topic that we have today that still remains is, okay, they'll say there is life in the universe or in the galaxy, but there is no way that that intelligent life could have ever been here or visited Earth in the remote past or even present day.

00:08:46.000 And that to me...

00:08:48.000 It's a fallacy in logic because, granted, the distances between the stars are indeed huge.

00:08:54.000 They're mind-boggling.

00:08:56.000 But just because we can't get from point A to point B doesn't mean another society that, like you mentioned or you said or inferred, that they're a billion years older than us, or their world at least is a billion years older than us, Well, I mean, we are a very, very young culture by any means of the imagination.

00:09:17.000 So someone that's only 100,000 years older, I mean, they have technologies or other type of something where they combine biology with technology and things like that that we couldn't even dream of right now.

00:09:32.000 Yeah, our imagination is the only thing that limits us from seeing what they could possibly be.

00:09:36.000 We have given them a thousand years in advance of us, a million years, or even a few hundred years, man.

00:09:43.000 Look what Nikola Tesla was doing in the early 20th century, and look at what's going on today.

00:09:51.000 I mean, that's a gigantic, monumental leap in just a little over a hundred years.

00:09:55.000 That's amazing.

00:09:56.000 Well, I mean, just imagine showing your great-grandpa one of our phones today.

00:10:03.000 I mean, to him... 0.99

00:10:05.000 Even Star Trek couldn't fuck with that, right? 0.99

00:10:06.000 Exactly. 0.98

00:10:06.000 They thought you were going to be able to beam people onto a planet, but they still had walkie-talkies. 0.98

00:10:11.000 You know?

00:10:12.000 Kirk out.

00:10:13.000 They couldn't wrap their head around the idea that you would have real-time communication on a planet. 1.00

00:10:19.000 They're like, that's too stupid. 1.00

00:10:20.000 We can beam people there, but you can't have Google. 1.00

00:10:24.000 Nobody ever thought of Google.

00:10:26.000 The idea that you can just talk into it, you Google talk, the voice thing, you press the voice thing, you go Eddie Bravo.

00:10:32.000 It Googles Eddie Bravo. 0.97

00:10:34.000 Wikipedia page, videos, it's fucking amazing. 0.99

00:10:37.000 And even with 3G, it's not 4G yet, but it's fast as fuck, man. 0.99

00:10:41.000 Any alien species that's a thousand years from us, The idea that we're going to know what they can do is absolutely silly. 0.95

00:10:48.000 We already understand the principle of folding space-time and meeting those two points and having a gateway somehow to something.

00:10:56.000 They know the possibility of this existing in the universe.

00:11:00.000 Completely theoretical, but so many things were theoretical just a couple of hundred years ago.

00:11:04.000 I mean, look at what they're doing right now with CERN, with this Higgs-Boson Collider and that We're good to go.

00:11:31.000 Something a thousand years from now, my thought is always, though, that why would we even see it?

00:11:36.000 They could come as clouds. 0.97

00:11:37.000 You don't think they're going to be able to disguise themselves as a fucking tree or just not be visible at all? 0.99

00:11:43.000 Be around us right now? 0.93

00:11:44.000 And that is the same allegory I sometimes like to use is if you have some patio lighting out on your patio and you have a cat, and that cat likes to go outside on the patio every night and You know, look up to the sky or look up to the patio lights, sees the lights, and the cat might think, yeah, this is very pretty, it's beautiful, but that cat has no concept of what goes into those patio lights, that there's electricity, plastic, wiring, all these different things.

00:12:13.000 Which means that that is exactly the concept of extraterrestrials as well, that they can conceivably show up as some type of shapeshifters or something, and not just into people, but into objects or something, because they would use...

00:12:30.000 Exactly the same what we use today, and that's technology.

00:12:33.000 Yeah.

00:12:33.000 But there's something involved where, you know, just because we can't figure it out doesn't mean it does not exist.

00:12:41.000 Yeah.

00:12:41.000 I always say, I always bring up what I call the fart theory when it comes to...

00:12:46.000 To aliens.

00:12:46.000 And my theory is that, the idea is that if you couldn't smell, if you didn't have a sense of smell, you would have no idea that farts existed.

00:12:56.000 You had no idea that you were just sitting in someone's ass gas, right? 0.99

00:12:59.000 You would have no clue. 0.98

00:13:01.000 But because you have a sense of smell, this invisible thing all of a sudden becomes a reality.

00:13:06.000 How do we not know there aren't a million different senses, a million different things that are around us all the time that we just can't tune into?

00:13:13.000 And all some alien has to do is tune into something that's outside of our spectrum.

00:13:18.000 Tune into something that's not within our natural ability to perceive. 0.93

00:13:22.000 I mean, our natural ability to perceive is very Similar to the people that lived 10,000 years ago and were throwing fucking, you know, pointed sticks at moving animals.

00:13:31.000 There's very, very little difference between us genetically now and then.

00:13:35.000 So how do we not know that the systems that we have in place are all in place for the natural world, all in place for, you know, you hear animals, you know, you see moving things, you know, you smell food, you know, they're all in place to keep us alive and keep us successful.

00:13:51.000 We could very well be developing new senses because of Wi-Fi and because of all these cellular signals and the way human beings...

00:14:00.000 How sick are you right now, buddy?

00:14:01.000 You want to go home? 0.52

00:14:02.000 Are you that sick that you want to go home?

00:14:04.000 I don't want you to get everybody else sick. 0.99

00:14:07.000 Colds. 0.96

00:14:08.000 Perfect example. 1.00

00:14:09.000 It's fucking some shit flying through the air in this room right now. 1.00

00:14:12.000 This guy's sick. 1.00

00:14:13.000 And he's got some germs inside of his body. 1.00

00:14:15.000 There's some shit that you can't see unless you get a microscope. 1.00

00:14:18.000 And they're little invading animals. 1.00

00:14:20.000 They're trying to take over and kill him. 0.94

00:14:21.000 So his army right now is at war. 1.00

00:14:24.000 There's so much shit out there. 1.00

00:14:25.000 There's so much shit out there that we can't wrap our heads around. 1.00

00:14:28.000 And it's happening right here at this table. 1.00

00:14:29.000 Right now.

00:14:30.000 There's aliens watching us in this room.

00:14:32.000 How did you get into your field, and how did you get on Ancient Aliens?

00:14:38.000 Well, for that, I really have to thank my grandma, because growing up, I traveled around the world with my parents, and they made sure that we would go to all those different museums and archaeological sites and things like that, and have guided tours by the resident archaeologist or the resident curator and stuff like that.

00:15:02.000 But then, whenever I would come back home, my grandma would say, all right, so you've just been taught about the contemporary ideas of these particular cultures, but let me show you that other ideas and theories exist as well.

00:15:18.000 So she would tell me about Atlantis.

00:15:20.000 She would tell me about, you know, the ancient astronaut theory and chariots of the gods and all those different viewpoints that have been proposed by others.

00:15:28.000 So for me...

00:15:30.000 These types of topics have been...

00:15:34.000 I've been exposed to those at a fairly young age.

00:15:39.000 I mean, this was all dinner table conversation, especially when my parents or my grandparents would visit.

00:15:46.000 But at the same time, my mom, she always used to say that...

00:15:51.000 Whenever we would have these discussions, she would say...

00:15:55.000 You know, I really think that all of this that we have today, it's been here before.

00:16:01.000 And I never knew what she meant.

00:16:03.000 And of course, you know, I was five, six, seven years old.

00:16:05.000 But today, I know exactly and I finally understand what she meant, that, you know, this is just a repetition of history.

00:16:12.000 How high was she when she said this? 0.96

00:16:15.000 Hey, I was too young, so I don't think...

00:16:18.000 You weren't sure?

00:16:18.000 Yes, no.

00:16:19.000 Mom's in there talking about ancient civilizations.

00:16:20.000 I don't think so.

00:16:22.000 Not my mom.

00:16:22.000 No, she's lovely and all this.

00:16:24.000 My mom got high.

00:16:25.000 I'll tell you that right now.

00:16:27.000 And, you know, so the question, you know, so today, especially, you know, now that my parents are like, you know, For a long time, they were like, ah, you're wasting your time with this, yada, yada.

00:16:38.000 And now all I have to say is that, you know, I am here because of my parents and my grandparents, and so it was their fault that all this happened.

00:16:47.000 What year did Chariots of the Gods came out?

00:16:48.000 It came out, like, in the 60s?

00:16:50.000 Yeah, it was first published in German under the title Memories of the Future in 1968. And then it was a runaway success.

00:16:59.000 And the first English edition came out in 1970. And within, you know, eight months or so, six million copies had been sold.

00:17:09.000 I mean, it was an absolute phenomenon that they called denikitis.

00:17:14.000 And it was a huge success worldwide.

00:17:16.000 And here we are in 2011...

00:17:19.000 And Chariots of the Gods is still red.

00:17:22.000 Eric Von Daniken just turned 77 years old.

00:17:26.000 By the way, he says hello to the entire audience.

00:17:29.000 He's very happy and excited that I'm on the program, so he says hello.

00:17:33.000 Really?

00:17:34.000 Yes, absolutely.

00:17:34.000 Is he listening?

00:17:35.000 So we're trying to get him on the program, too, here.

00:17:38.000 Oh, dude, bring him in, man.

00:17:39.000 We'll do it remotely or something.

00:17:41.000 Where does he live?

00:17:42.000 He lives in Switzerland. 0.99

00:17:43.000 I'll fucking fly out to Switzerland. 0.98

00:17:45.000 Alright, we'll definitely set something up. 0.95

00:17:47.000 How weird was it when you first met him?

00:17:49.000 Was that kind of crazy?

00:17:50.000 Well, I would say it was weird the first time we actually hung out and had a conversation and stuff because I had gone to some of his lectures when I was in my early teens.

00:18:04.000 So you've been in the game forever.

00:18:08.000 Yeah.

00:18:09.000 Yeah, no, I mean, look, I started the magazine that I published.

00:18:12.000 You published Legendary Times magazines, right?

00:18:15.000 1998. That's when you started?

00:18:15.000 Yeah, 1998. And Legendary Times is basically all about ancient civilizations.

00:18:21.000 Yes, and it's specifically geared towards ancient civilizations in respect to the ancient astronaut theory.

00:18:29.000 Suggesting or exploring the idea of whether or not extraterrestrials, flesh and blood extraterrestrials, visited Earth in the remote past.

00:18:38.000 And by that, I don't mean, you know, a hundred years ago, but we're talking five, six, seven, eight thousand years ago from today, Sumerians.

00:18:47.000 When you look at it, when you look at the Sumerian text and you look at von Daniken's work, what is your gut impression?

00:18:53.000 Would you, I don't think you, if you're not making a conclusion, Which way do you lean?

00:18:58.000 Do you lean 50% that they were here or 50% that maybe something else happened?

00:19:03.000 More than 50%?

00:19:05.000 Personally?

00:19:06.000 Yes.

00:19:06.000 100% that they were here.

00:19:08.000 Absolutely.

00:19:08.000 What gives you the most hope or the most reason to believe this?

00:19:13.000 Well, because I sometimes liken it to when you're completing a puzzle.

00:19:19.000 It doesn't matter how big the puzzle is, but the more pieces you put together, the more pieces you fit into place, even when that puzzle is not yet completed, and we've all done puzzles as kids, it gets easier as you move along.

00:19:35.000 But you can stop somewhere three-quarters of the way And you can look at that puzzle and you know exactly what the picture looks like even though it's not yet complete and there's a couple of pieces missing.

00:19:49.000 So that is what the ancient astronaut theory to me is like.

00:19:54.000 That there are so many indications from all ancient cultures that the conclusion, in my opinion, is inescapable.

00:20:02.000 And I'm not just saying this because I'm pulling this out of my ass, but because there are stories and there are physical pieces of evidence that the only conclusion that we can draw, unless we go into the realm of the fantastical and the unlikely, Is that we have been visited by flesh and blood extraterrestrials in the past.

00:20:26.000 But what is, like, if you were going to try to convince somebody, what is the most compelling evidence in your opinion that, you know, you said there's evidence where you cannot draw any other conclusion. 0.96

00:20:35.000 What is the most compelling?

00:20:37.000 Well, you know, and this is where I truly enjoy and respect the work of many archaeologists around the world, because they are excavating different sites and different monuments, and they're truly breaking their backs for some fantastic research.

00:20:56.000 However, sometimes when you look at that researcher and some of the ideas that they present, there are some faults in logic there because they, for example, suggest that we have moved a block that's 1,500 metric tons heavy with a piece of string and some chicken bones.

00:21:22.000 And today, our cranes, they tap out at 1,350 tons.

00:21:28.000 So if we today...

00:21:30.000 How much difference is that weight-wise?

00:21:32.000 Oh, we're talking about 200 tons.

00:21:35.000 So 200 tons shy.

00:21:37.000 Yes.

00:21:37.000 That's what we can do today.

00:21:38.000 Right.

00:21:39.000 Right.

00:21:39.000 Well, it's heavier.

00:21:41.000 So you think that is the best proof?

00:21:43.000 Well, I mean, there's multiple.

00:21:45.000 I mean, that one block, for example, is at a city in Lebanon called Baalbek.

00:21:50.000 And we've all seen that amazing stone.

00:21:53.000 That's in Chariots of the God, the movie.

00:21:55.000 Exactly.

00:21:56.000 Incredible.

00:21:56.000 Yes, Heliopolis.

00:21:58.000 Beyond.

00:21:58.000 You've seen it, Eddie, right?

00:21:59.000 Beyond, right?

00:22:00.000 You can't even wrap your head around it.

00:22:02.000 You're like, this is nuts.

00:22:04.000 You can't move this.

00:22:05.000 Who moved this?

00:22:06.000 You got the photos of that?

00:22:07.000 Was it maybe just something that we're not thinking of?

00:22:09.000 Like it was underwater at one point?

00:22:12.000 It made it easier to move rocks or anything like that?

00:22:15.000 No, it doesn't make it easier to move something that big.

00:22:19.000 What the possibilities are, there's two in my opinion.

00:22:23.000 There's his idea that we've been visited by ancient aliens.

00:22:26.000 And then there's the idea that civilization has been restarted several times, and that is that there's some sort of a cataclysmic event that's killed almost everybody except for a small amount of stragglers, and they regrouped and rebuilt and rethought things out, and that's one of the reasons why things come so quickly.

00:22:43.000 Technology is moving so fast, as your mom said, or it was your grandmother, whoever it was, that we are relearning.

00:22:49.000 We've done this before.

00:22:50.000 That is possible, right?

00:22:51.000 And it can also be a combination of both.

00:22:54.000 You see, that's the thing, that there are...

00:22:58.000 Can I see that picture?

00:22:58.000 Of course.

00:22:59.000 This is the one...

00:23:00.000 This is the...

00:23:01.000 This is Baalbek? 0.86

00:23:03.000 Yes, this is the Baalbek. 0.50

00:23:04.000 It's called the Stone of the Pregnant Woman. 1.00

00:23:07.000 And it's one of the biggest monoliths that has ever been seen on planet Earth.

00:23:14.000 And, you know, to me, right there, we could not move this with our modern-day cranes.

00:23:20.000 And so, you know, something happened in all of these ancient sites.

00:23:24.000 Because, you know, we know, there's absolutely no question in my mind that our ancestors, I mean, they were extremely smart.

00:23:30.000 They were ingenious.

00:23:32.000 And obviously, did they know how to cut stones and how to transport them and things like that.

00:23:38.000 However, I'm not really interested in moving around stones that are cut from limestone or from sandstone and things like this.

00:23:48.000 But what I'm interested in is stuff like this, where it was cut out of granite.

00:23:53.000 We're out of diorite, where still today we use diamond-tipped saws in order to cut any of these blocks that we cut today.

00:24:03.000 And allegedly our ancestors did this with copper tools.

00:24:06.000 And I'm sorry, somewhere the logic just fails.

00:24:11.000 The logic certainly fails that that technology that we attribute to those people...

00:24:15.000 Because we have to put them in the Bronze Age and the Copper Age. 0.91

00:24:18.000 We can't put them in the Age of Steel.

00:24:20.000 But to me, the logic is much more likely that we're wrong about the Age of Bronze and the Age of Steel and that people had figured out diamond-tipped tools.

00:24:30.000 Didn't they find markings inside the sarcophagus in the King's Chamber of the Great Pyramid of Giza that they believe were attributed only to diamond-headed drill?

00:24:41.000 Absolutely.

00:24:42.000 And in Egypt, we have a very fascinating site called Abydos.

00:24:46.000 And in Abydos, you have a...

00:24:48.000 Sorry, in Abuzir, not in Abydos.

00:24:51.000 Abydos is where they have those weird hieroglyphics.

00:24:53.000 But in Abuzir, you have what's known as signatures of core drills.

00:25:01.000 And a cord drill is basically, if you imagine a steel tube tipped with diamonds that drills itself into the ground or into the rock, and then you break it free, you take out that tube, and inside of it you have like a pipe of that, a cord drill sample of that particular rock.

00:25:18.000 Now in Abuzir we find multiple stones where we can see a signature of these types of machining that took place there.

00:25:29.000 Now, a lot of people have said, oh, well, these are all modern-day occurrences, and it was done when the first modern-day cord drill machine was invented in the early 1920s.

00:25:42.000 Now, when you look at the book that Sir Flinders Petrie wrote, that book was written in 1906, And it already had drawings of those cordial holes in them, which proves that these cordial holes that we can find at Abuzir are not modern-day creations.

00:26:03.000 And that is absolutely crazy, because Christopher Dunn, one of my colleagues, Who wrote the Giza Power Plant, he proved, because he's a machinist, I mean, he's an engineer, and he knows this stuff, like the back of his hand.

00:26:19.000 So it's not like, you know, somebody walked along and said, this is how it is, but this guy, that's what he does for a living.

00:26:24.000 He builds machines and he, you know, precision mechanisms and things like this, so he is trained for that kind of, you know, investigation.

00:26:35.000 Mm-hmm.

00:26:35.000 And he said that there is no way that this could have been done with copper tools.

00:26:42.000 I mean, it's just impossible.

00:26:43.000 And so, you know, there's some just wild, wild pieces of evidence that we have out there, like in Puma Punku, for example.

00:26:52.000 In the Bolivian highlands, at an altitude of 12,500 feet, there is this magnificent place called Tiwanaku that every day hundreds of tourists arrive there and they look at it, they take pictures, and then they leave as clueless as they arrived.

00:27:09.000 And about 150-200 yards away from Tionaku, there's another site that's very much lesser known called Pumapunku.

00:27:21.000 And at Puma Punku, everything defies, logic is defied at Puma Punku because the blocks of stone that we have there are pure diorite, andesite, and granite.

00:27:33.000 And they are so perfect that we today would have a hard time recreating some of these blocks.

00:27:42.000 And I actually spoke to a real-life stonemason, his name is Roger Hopkins, and he looked at some of these pictures that I showed him of Puma Punku, and he said that not for any amount of money or for any amount of time would he volunteer to try to replicate some of these rocks, some of these blocks.

00:28:05.000 And if a real-life stonemason says this, I mean, God bless the professors and the archaeologists, but I'd rather listen to someone who cuts stone for a living than someone who stands before a blackboard.

00:28:19.000 But this guy who cuts stone for a living, what he said was that it could be done.

00:28:23.000 He said it would be really hard, and he wouldn't want to do it for any amount of money, but that it could be done.

00:28:28.000 Yes, but only with modern stuff.

00:28:31.000 Yes, and not with chicken bones.

00:28:34.000 If we know that, if we know that it could be done with modern technology, wouldn't it be more likely that modern technology is sort of a recreation of what people did learn in the past, and that they probably were wiped out by some sort of a cataclysmic disaster?

00:28:50.000 That, to me, seems way more likely than...

00:28:52.000 Aliens came and moved rocks.

00:28:54.000 You're saying if it would be really, really difficult for people to do it today.

00:28:58.000 Well, there's a lot of stuff that would be incredibly difficult for people to do today.

00:29:02.000 I'm not necessarily suggesting that aliens move to rocks.

00:29:07.000 What I'm saying is that the aliens that visited Earth gave the technology or taught the technology to humans because what they wanted to do is to leave behind messages that they were here in the past.

00:29:24.000 So all those incredible monuments that we have today, like the pyramids of Giza or Stonehenge or Pumapunku, for example, or Newgrange, all these magnificent sites in Cusco, Machu Picchu in Peru, that all those places are messages for a future generation that all those places are messages for a future generation to understand that something way different happened in our past.

00:29:48.000 That is the main reason why, for example, we have religions today today and things like this.

00:29:55.000 So you think that pretty much all science emanates from some sort of an alien contact?

00:30:00.000 Is that what you think?

00:30:01.000 No, because modern day...

00:30:03.000 Because there's a trace of modern day science.

00:30:06.000 You can follow...

00:30:07.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:30:07.000 Right, now let's think about this.

00:30:09.000 What age do you think people had technology that sort of any fucking nut that crashed and, you know, the TV show Lost crashed on an island and you could recreate? 0.90

00:30:21.000 What was that? 0.88

00:30:22.000 Like, maybe 2,000, 3,000 years ago?

00:30:25.000 No, 4,000, 5,000?

00:30:27.000 Yeah, something like that.

00:30:29.000 So, like, 5,000, 6,000 years ago, they were basically living like savages, right?

00:30:33.000 Supposedly?

00:30:34.000 Supposedly.

00:30:34.000 Clearly supposedly.

00:30:35.000 Supposedly, yes.

00:30:36.000 If you follow...

00:30:37.000 Let's give them 10,000.

00:30:38.000 No, even earlier.

00:30:39.000 I mean, look...

00:30:40.000 My point was that if in 10,000 years' time people have gone from being cave-dwelling savages that were throwing pointy sticks at moving animals to...

00:30:53.000 People with cell phones and the internet and wireless, and this is all created, you know, inarguably by human beings.

00:30:59.000 There's a record of all these inventions and all these creations. 0.60

00:31:02.000 If this has been achieved over 10,000 years, what's to say that there wasn't some sort of a massive disaster that happened at the end of the last ice age or somewhere in there 20,000 years ago, date it, 15,000, whatever the fuck it is, and that...

00:31:18.000 Technology died, and that civilization died, and it had to be reinvented by the surviving humans basically from scratch.

00:31:26.000 And that even though human beings had been around for a long, long, long time before that, and civilization had evolved to an incredibly high level, all that information was lost.

00:31:35.000 That, to me, is way more likely than aliens.

00:31:39.000 Well, but see, here's the thing.

00:31:42.000 This is where the difference lies.

00:31:44.000 When, let's say, the Sumerian culture sprung out of virtually nothing, and it happened virtually overnight, The Sumerians were very clear in stating that they got their start in civilization by what they referred to as the Anunnaki.

00:32:00.000 And the Anunnaki translated into English means those who from the heaven came.

00:32:05.000 Yes, exactly.

00:32:06.000 But isn't that true that that's only by...

00:32:08.000 I mean, Zechariah Sitchin is pretty much the main scholar of the Sumerian text of Belize.

00:32:13.000 There's a lot of other scholars that do not agree with it.

00:32:16.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:32:17.000 But the translation, even a quote-unquote mainstream scientist or sumerologist will say that Anunnaki means that.

00:32:26.000 I mean, that is not, for example, Sikirai.

00:32:29.000 There are quite a few things that he translated, you know, quote-unquote himself.

00:32:35.000 So that's definitely a valid point, but the great majority of what he's talking about has been translated correctly, and he has used many of the most accessible and correct translations that can be found today.

00:32:52.000 But even in the epic of Gilgamesh, don't they refer to a long-gone superior civilization that existed before them?

00:33:00.000 Yes, but that civilization always lived, quote-unquote, somewhere else and in the great dark void.

00:33:08.000 Now, what's the great dark void?

00:33:10.000 That's a beautiful...

00:33:11.000 Pasadena.

00:33:13.000 I like that.

00:33:14.000 I like it, too.

00:33:15.000 It's a poetic way of saying...

00:33:19.000 Compton.

00:33:19.000 That would have been better.

00:33:20.000 Compton would have been better for the great dark void. 1.00

00:33:22.000 Shit, I fucked up. 1.00

00:33:23.000 Yeah, maybe it is. 1.00

00:33:25.000 But, you know, you follow me?

00:33:27.000 What I'm saying is that, like, you know, I firmly believe that there's life out there.

00:33:31.000 I mean, I think the possibility is, you know, the numbers, you know, and I think it's also very possible that it's reached us.

00:33:38.000 But I think if you look at what's more likely, if we absolutely know that people can build immense structures, if we absolutely know that civilization, most likely, because of all these historical...

00:33:53.000 You know, depictions of natural disasters, whether it's the epic of Gilgamesh or Noah's Ark or a hundred different cultures that have stories of apocalyptic disasters.

00:34:03.000 And the volatile nature of the earth itself, the fact that we know it's covered in craters, the fact that we know that every planet, we look at the moon, we just see craters all over the place.

00:34:11.000 We know about the shifting of the polar ice caps.

00:34:13.000 We know about Pangea.

00:34:14.000 We know that there was intelligent life, probably, in some sort of a monkey form when Pangea was around, right?

00:34:19.000 Yes, no, absolutely.

00:34:21.000 Pangaea being, for people who don't know, the whole entire world is one continent.

00:34:25.000 That's a theory.

00:34:26.000 And it's drifted apart.

00:34:27.000 I just think that if we know for a fact that human beings are capable now of doing spectacular things, and we have said already that if we existed 100 years more, man, imagine what we would know.

00:34:40.000 Just imagine what has sprung out over the last 100, 300 years.

00:34:45.000 You know, and I think you add a few hundred years to that or a thousand years to that, it's not unreasonable, in my opinion, to think that 10,000 years ago there was some sort of an event, some sort of a catastrophic, maybe it's 15,000, whatever the fuck you name it, a catastrophic event that fucked this world sideways and killed almost everybody.

00:35:04.000 To me, that is just way more likely than these people got it from some higher intelligence.

00:35:10.000 Well, he's saying both of it.

00:35:12.000 It's a combo of both.

00:35:13.000 Could be.

00:35:14.000 And how many different ancient civilizations tell the people where they got their knowledge?

00:35:20.000 It's not just the Samaritans. 0.52

00:35:21.000 They're all telling you there's incredible monuments that puzzle us today.

00:35:26.000 We're telling you that dudes from the heavens came down and showed us, but no one's believing it.

00:35:33.000 We're also telling you that a guy died and came back to Earth three days later and turned water into wine.

00:35:38.000 No, but these are structures that actually you can see and there are scientists baffled by them.

00:35:42.000 What structures do you mean?

00:35:44.000 What structures?

00:35:45.000 The stuff in South America, the Mayans. 0.98

00:35:48.000 All the ancient Sumerian... 0.99

00:35:50.000 Well, yeah, but the Mayans, you know, their shit is totally different. 0.99

00:35:54.000 I mean, they believe that a fucking plume snake created the universe, you know? 1.00

00:35:59.000 Yeah, but hold on a second now. 0.99

00:36:01.000 That's exactly what I'm talking about.

00:36:03.000 What is behind this story of the plume snake? 1.00

00:36:07.000 Mushrooms like a motherfucker. 1.00

00:36:09.000 In the jungle, hanging out, banging hot Mayan chicks, chilling. 1.00

00:36:14.000 Yeah.

00:36:15.000 I mean, that's definitely an idea and a possibility.

00:36:19.000 Playing football with human heads.

00:36:21.000 But I'm trying to figure out what are the realities behind those stories.

00:36:25.000 I certainly think it's a possibility.

00:36:27.000 I'm not ruling out that possibility.

00:36:29.000 Oh no, of course not.

00:36:30.000 But, you know, it is definitely a combination because the bottom line is that all these ancient cultures are very adamant and very specific in saying...

00:36:39.000 That this all happened because of a visit from beings from the stars.

00:36:44.000 I mean, the star thing is very prevalent.

00:36:47.000 If it were a previous civilization, or if it were, let's say, human beings, because sometimes people say, well, how come you're not talking about that maybe it's our civilization from the future that traveled into the past to help us with certain developments?

00:37:06.000 Well, that can't be true, because nowhere in the ancient texts do we find any reference where it says, well, we're just like you, but we're from the future. 0.94

00:37:16.000 Maybe it's just future bullshit artists. 0.98

00:37:18.000 That's what those little gray dudes are. 1.00

00:37:20.000 They're just completely full of shit. 1.00

00:37:21.000 They're us from the future, but they fuck with us the same way we fuck with monkeys. 1.00

00:37:25.000 Like, yeah, if you get in the cage, I'll give you a banana. 1.00

00:37:29.000 And the monkey gets in the cage, and you just steal him, take him to the zoo. 1.00

00:37:33.000 And you give him that banana, and he's like, what the fuck? 0.79

00:37:35.000 The crazy thing about Zachariah Sitch, when people question his translations, are the things that he got right in the 70s, that we're finding out just today, in like 2001, 2002, that in the stories that he's talking about, he's saying, in a nutshell, That this hyper-advanced race created us as slaves to mine gold because they needed gold dust particles to suspend their atmosphere to protect their planet. 0.96

00:38:00.000 Well, we just discovered in the 2000s that, hey, you actually do protect atmospheres by suspending metallic products.

00:38:07.000 How the hell did an archaeologist know some astrophysics?

00:38:11.000 In the 70s. 1.00

00:38:12.000 That's an intense shit. 0.99

00:38:14.000 Yeah, well, it is possible that they were really sophisticated 7,000, 8,000 years ago, and they knew that we were eventually going to run into the same problems again. 0.99

00:38:23.000 I mean, maybe they were burning shit back then that was eating up the ozone layer. 0.93

00:38:27.000 Maybe they were fucking with chemicals back then, just like we are now. 0.99

00:38:30.000 So that would mean they were super smart. 0.99

00:38:32.000 Yeah.

00:38:33.000 They're telling you, specifically.

00:38:35.000 The reason why they...

00:38:37.000 How it happened.

00:38:38.000 Yes.

00:38:39.000 Yeah, well, they figured it out, just like we figured it out.

00:38:41.000 Just like we figured it out now, and they figured it out then.

00:38:43.000 No, but they're telling you how they figured it out.

00:38:45.000 They're saying they got it from the Anunnaki.

00:38:48.000 Yes.

00:38:49.000 But again, I don't know enough about language to argue against or for Sitchin, but I know that he's a rogue scholar.

00:38:58.000 He's not the only one, though.

00:38:59.000 I mean, or the Anunnaki or the Sumerian stories are not the only stories that we find concise pieces of evidence.

00:39:06.000 The Dogons, right?

00:39:07.000 Yes.

00:39:07.000 I mean, They have completely such detailed astronomical knowledge which was not corroborated until the early 1960s, and there's still people that say, oh, this is a complete hoax, when it really isn't.

00:39:22.000 I mean, they knew about invisible stars that were then later truly corroborated by NASA and other astrophysicists.

00:39:30.000 I mean, how...

00:39:31.000 How on earth would they know something like this?

00:39:33.000 And Dogon give you the answers.

00:39:36.000 That they were visited by somebody that descended from the sky.

00:39:40.000 And then who are we to say that these people are lying or that they made up fantasy stories?

00:39:46.000 Because that, to me, is the insult, right?

00:39:49.000 When people say... 0.99

00:39:50.000 I'll insult the fuck out of some old tribes. 1.00

00:39:52.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:39:53.000 No, no, no. 1.00

00:39:54.000 Goofy fucks worshiping snakes. 0.98

00:39:55.000 No, I'm just referring to, you know, because people, you know, archaeologists may, or debunkers, are saying, well, you know, you guys attribute everything to alien intervention, and, you know, you undermine human ingenuity. 1.00

00:40:08.000 You're suggesting that, you know, our ancestors were stupid. 0.92

00:40:11.000 And nothing could be further from the truth, because obviously nothing happened in our brain development in the last 50,000 years. 0.99

00:40:19.000 If you bring back someone from...

00:40:22.000 Ten thousand years ago to today, you can teach that person how to drive a car.

00:40:28.000 You can teach that person even to fly a plane.

00:40:30.000 No problem, because intellectually speaking, they're as capable as we are today.

00:40:37.000 However...

00:40:38.000 There was one huge difference, and that is their technological frame of reference was different or smaller than what we have today.

00:40:46.000 So when we have stories of flying shields or dragons or smoking snakes and plumesnakes and things like that, then my question is, well, what was it exactly that our ancestors tried to describe with their vocabulary?

00:41:05.000 Because they didn't have...

00:41:07.000 The vocabulary for rocket or for, you know, so they had to liken a rocket to a blazing oven or something like this, or, you know, a gleaming bronze monster and things like that.

00:41:18.000 So therein lies the big difference.

00:41:20.000 And so when archaeologists then say, Well, you know, you're saying that I undermine human ingenuity from the past.

00:41:28.000 It's like, no, I'm really not, because I am reading to you exactly that these same people said that they received their knowledge from these humanoid beings that descended from the sky.

00:41:41.000 So you think that that's the most compelling piece of evidence to you, is human beings' depictions of what was going on, like the Vimanas or, you know...

00:41:52.000 No.

00:41:53.000 I mean, that is definitely...

00:41:54.000 See, and that's the great thing about the ancient alien theory, that you can, you know, it's such an interdisciplinary field of research that, you know, you can look at ancient Egypt and you can look at South America and draw correlations.

00:42:09.000 I mean, they found, you know, crazy correlations between those two cultures, for example, where they found cocaine in mummies and things like that, where cocaine was only, you know, available in one country...

00:42:21.000 And so something definitely happened that there was trade between all continents, and personally, I suggest that trade didn't necessarily happen on water, but that they actually had...

00:42:38.000 Because that is what the ancient texts are saying.

00:42:41.000 Not only in India with the Vimanas, but also in the Hebrew and in the Ethiopian cultures, you have the story of King Solomon and his flying carpet and his flying machine.

00:42:53.000 Didn't your show take an artifact and recreate it?

00:42:57.000 Explain that.

00:42:58.000 Tell me about what happened there.

00:42:59.000 Well, where was the artifact from?

00:43:01.000 It's from South America, from Colombia, and it's a gold funerary object.

00:43:07.000 It's a totem that hundreds, I'm sorry, thousands and thousands of those little artifacts have been found, and they were usually shaped in the form of frogs and insects and fish and crocodiles and things like that.

00:43:23.000 However, out of those thousands of funerary objects that have been found, About eight were found worldwide that looked like modern-day airplanes.

00:43:34.000 And so these two engineers, one doctor and one engineer, in Germany, what they did is, in the mid-90s, in 1996, they took one of those little funerary objects and they blew it up To ratio and to size without adding an inch or subtracting an inch.

00:43:56.000 I mean, they just basically blew it up to about three to four feet long.

00:43:59.000 It looks exactly like the old one.

00:44:01.000 Exactly.

00:44:02.000 And they put a propeller inside, and they tried multiple objects.

00:44:06.000 I mean, they didn't just do one that they thought, well, this one looks most likely like a plane, so let's just do this one.

00:44:14.000 No, they took a whole bunch of them, and they recreated them as model planes.

00:44:18.000 They threw them up in the air, and they were 100% aerodynamically sound.

00:44:24.000 They were able to do rolls and loops and stuff like that.

00:44:29.000 I mean, they were 100% airplanes.

00:44:33.000 And even to the untrained eye...

00:44:36.000 They look like planes.

00:44:38.000 Unquestionably.

00:44:39.000 Because here's the thing.

00:44:40.000 What do they say about this?

00:44:42.000 They say that these are also fish or insects.

00:44:47.000 You look at that.

00:44:49.000 That's an airplane.

00:44:50.000 First of all, it's got a delta shape and a fuselage.

00:44:54.000 And then you have the stabilizers in the back.

00:44:57.000 And you've got an upright rudder.

00:44:58.000 And no...

00:45:00.000 Living creature in nature, it does not exist.

00:45:05.000 Plus, the wing formation is a low wing formation where the wings are attached to the bottom of the fuselage or the body.

00:45:14.000 Exactly.

00:45:15.000 And we have our wings or arms attached like the birds on the shoulder girdle.

00:45:23.000 And that formation that we can find in the Colombian artifact doesn't suggest this.

00:45:28.000 And how old is that artifact?

00:45:29.000 1,500 to 1,600 years old. 0.99

00:45:32.000 God damn! 0.98

00:45:33.000 Yeah, so, Tolimar region in Colombia, and pre-Columbian artifact, and it's, you know, so those are all those little things that, you know, all fit together somehow. 0.99

00:45:49.000 And in my opinion, they had something to do with flesh and blood aliens who visited in the remote past.

00:45:56.000 It's so weird that our history is so incomplete.

00:45:58.000 That's why we're having this debate.

00:46:00.000 The reason why we're having this debate is because, you know, the history is so sketchy. 0.98

00:46:04.000 When you get just a few thousand years ago, it's like, oh, fuck knows, man. 0.98

00:46:08.000 And it doesn't help when you get these conventional archaeologists that are so fucking set in their ways, man. 0.98

00:46:15.000 This Robert Shock, John Anthony West thing that's going on in Egypt pertaining to the dating of the Sphinx. 0.92

00:46:22.000 I find their research fascinating.

00:46:25.000 What I find more fascinating is how these mainstream Egyptologists just poo-poo it.

00:46:30.000 Like, oh, where's the evidence of this culture?

00:46:32.000 The argument they had was so childish.

00:46:35.000 It was so egotistical.

00:46:38.000 The guy was standing up going, you know, you're talking about the Sphinx predating 9,000 B.C. Where's the evidence of this culture that's willing to... 0.92

00:46:46.000 Where's the evidence? 0.99

00:46:47.000 What the fuck do you think is going to be there, sir? 0.97

00:46:49.000 What do you think is going to be there after 11,000 years? 0.99

00:46:52.000 You're talking 9,000 BC. How much is going to be left, man?

00:46:56.000 I'll tell you what's going to be left.

00:46:57.000 Rocks.

00:46:58.000 And there's your evidence. 0.98

00:46:59.000 Geological rocks that are so fucked up by water that it has to be thousands of years of rainfall. 0.86

00:47:05.000 You know, that is unanimous. 0.91

00:47:07.000 When geologists look at the Sphinx enclosure and they...

00:47:11.000 And they show photographs of the water, the water erosion of the fissures.

00:47:16.000 They're 100% agreed that it's water erosion due to thousands of years of rainfall.

00:47:23.000 By the way, rainfall too, not just flooding, not like one crazy flood, no, thousands of years.

00:47:30.000 So that just shows you it has to be older than 9,000 B.C. because that was the last time there was flooding or there was a rainforest in the Nile Valley.

00:47:38.000 No, and the crazy thing is also that their research is corroborated by other research as well.

00:47:44.000 When my colleague Robert Boval came out with the Orion mystery, and when he suggested that if you look at the three great pyramids at Giza from a bird's eye perspective, you see that the three are, you know, sort of lined up, but not completely.

00:47:59.000 They're not in a straight line, that the smallest pyramid is a bit off.

00:48:03.000 And he's like, well, that's really strange, so what's going on here?

00:48:07.000 And then he determined that these three pyramids are, in fact, built to the exact ratio of Orion's, the three stars in Orion's belt.

00:48:15.000 I had heard, though, that the only way you could see the three stars from that angle, you would have to look at everything upside down from, like...

00:48:25.000 That it doesn't actually work that way.

00:48:28.000 That it was disproven.

00:48:29.000 That you can see it that way, but not from Earth.

00:48:34.000 Not from the way we look at it.

00:48:35.000 You would have to reverse everything.

00:48:37.000 Is that true?

00:48:38.000 Yes.

00:48:39.000 I mean, look, the general idea still holds.

00:48:43.000 Even though the upside-down theory is possibly correct, I'm not sure of that, to be honest with you.

00:48:49.000 I'm not sure of it either.

00:48:50.000 I watched a video, I think.

00:48:51.000 However, what he did determine is the fact that the time, if you were to put three floodlights on top of each tip of the pyramid and fire it straight into the sky, you know, like at the Luxor in Las Vegas, the big beam, the time when the three tips of the big beam, the time when the three tips of those pyramids would line up exactly with Orion's belt, and you have software for this where you can, you know, rewind back the night sky on the computer these days.

00:49:20.000 It would be in 12,500 years ago, which Boval labeled or is known in Egyptology as the Golden Age, when the gods still walked amongst men.

00:49:36.000 And so the fact that the Sphinx also dates to 9,000 BC, well, that's the Golden Age that everybody talks about in Egypt.

00:49:48.000 Really, 9,000 BC, thousands of years earlier, it has to exist because of the thousands of years of rainfall.

00:49:53.000 So you are talking maybe 10,500 BC, maybe 11 or more.

00:49:56.000 So the fact is that...

00:49:58.000 And there are ancient texts that talk about these previous cultures or these previous periods of other kings that lived in the Egyptian region.

00:50:15.000 But they're considered to be fantasy stories by archaeologists.

00:50:21.000 Right, even the pictures of the pharaohs of like 34,000 years ago, aren't there?

00:50:26.000 I mean, I believe John Anthony West has stated that it goes back almost 30,000 or more years.

00:50:31.000 There is a king's list out there, and everybody can go Google this tonight.

00:50:35.000 It's called WB44. And that king's list absolutely will boggle your mind because it basically lists...

00:50:45.000 A combined age of kings that ruled for a half a million years before our culture.

00:50:52.000 Now, you know, it's absolutely crazy.

00:50:57.000 And that is a list that can be found at the British Museum in England, in London.

00:51:05.000 Where's it from?

00:51:06.000 It's from Sumeria.

00:51:07.000 And it's WB-44.

00:51:10.000 And it lists for how long?

00:51:12.000 How old?

00:51:13.000 For hundreds of thousands of years.

00:51:15.000 And some of these kings, it says, have reigned for 16,000 years, for 48,000 years.

00:51:21.000 One king.

00:51:22.000 One king.

00:51:23.000 And then the question is, well, how is this even possible? 0.99

00:51:25.000 They got all that Aubrey the Grey type shit. 0.98

00:51:27.000 They were working that back then, man. 0.99

00:51:29.000 Or are we talking about time dilation?

00:51:32.000 Time dilation?

00:51:33.000 What do you mean?

00:51:33.000 Where if you travel at close to the speed of light, if on your spaceship five years pass, and you travel at 99.9% of the speed of light, 5,000 years pass here on Earth.

00:51:48.000 And that's just the theory of relativity, which is, you know, and it takes time dilation into account.

00:51:55.000 I mean, like anyone that flies a lot, those people are actually...

00:52:00.000 Aging slower than the rest of us.

00:52:03.000 So the more you are in motion, the slower you age.

00:52:06.000 And so this is a mathematically viable and proven theory that if you travel close, which of course we are not capable of doing yet, but just because we human beings can't do it doesn't mean it does not exist.

00:52:22.000 And that's the big, you know, argument. 0.99

00:52:24.000 So this dude would, like, come down here, fuck with some shit, and go, yeah, I'll be right back. 1.00

00:52:29.000 And then he comes back, like, 16,000 years, because to him it's only a year. 1.00

00:52:33.000 Yep, exactly.

00:52:34.000 But he goes at the speed of light or whatever the hell he goes, and he comes back.

00:52:37.000 Yes, and it sounds like science fiction.

00:52:40.000 But who says that that is not possible?

00:52:43.000 That is an interesting way to stay valid. 0.99

00:52:47.000 You just say, listen, bitch, I am coming back. 1.00

00:52:49.000 And then you actually do come back? 0.98

00:52:51.000 And those are the stories that we find that these quote-unquote gods, which, by the way, they never existed.

00:52:58.000 It's all lowercase g.

00:53:00.000 There is no such thing as gods.

00:53:02.000 I mean, it's completely...

00:53:03.000 It was a complete misunderstanding, a misinterpretation of our ancestors who didn't understand the nuts and bolts technologies behind these visits, and so they started to worship these people.

00:53:16.000 And those visitors knew exactly...

00:53:20.000 That they were being worshipped because, you know, it would be the same thing that if we arrive on a planet one day in the future, 5,000 or whatever years from now, and we find a quote-unquote intelligent species but they're a bit primitive, yeah, well, you know, we'll push them a little bit in the right direction, show them how to complete agriculture and medicine and architecture and all those things.

00:53:44.000 And then, we'll just say, okay, we're going to disappear again.

00:53:48.000 Well, guess what?

00:53:48.000 Our once real visit will turn into, will enter the realm of mythology a thousand or two thousand years after our visit.

00:53:58.000 And so, one day, all of us, all human beings, will become ancient astronauts.

00:54:05.000 I have a question.

00:54:08.000 You're a master of ancient cultures.

00:54:11.000 Most ancient cultures have some kind of 2012 warning or signify the end of some age.

00:54:24.000 What do you think?

00:54:27.000 I really need you to pay attention to this because I think that the biggest threat that we face on December 22nd, 2012 is the massive hangover.

00:54:41.000 That will all be suffering, so...

00:54:43.000 That's about it.

00:54:45.000 Look, because...

00:54:46.000 And there's a lot of 2012 stuff with Zachariah Sitchin.

00:54:49.000 Of course, of course.

00:54:50.000 And so, you know, here's the thing that...

00:54:51.000 What did Zachariah Sitchin think of 2012?

00:54:54.000 Nibiru was gonna, you know...

00:54:56.000 Even though...

00:54:57.000 That's like a year away.

00:54:58.000 Wouldn't we be able to see it?

00:54:59.000 Yeah, look, here's the thing that, you know, the whole 2012 thing, in my opinion, is nothing else but a complete...

00:55:09.000 It's mass hysteria.

00:55:10.000 You think, though?

00:55:11.000 Absolutely, because...

00:55:12.000 But not to Zacharias Sitchin, though.

00:55:14.000 Yeah, well, even he, right before, or a year before he died, he rephrased his theory by saying that if at all Nibiru were to return, it's going to be around 2036 or 2038 or something like that. 0.96

00:55:30.000 Damn, he changed it! 0.94

00:55:31.000 Absolutely, yes. 0.98

00:55:32.000 But, you know, that's neither here nor there because the bottom line is that the big problem with 2012 is the fact that it's not even 2011 right now.

00:55:43.000 That's what nobody talks about, that, you know, we, our calendar...

00:55:47.000 It's wrong, because there's a couple of arguments that you can make, and that is, you know, if you look at our quote-unquote history, we went from 1 BC to 1 AD without a year zero, which means that we are already at least by one year off, so it's either 2012 already or it's still 2010. And then, you know, we don't know whether or not our calendar...

00:56:13.000 We also know that Jesus was not born in the year zero, but scholars, and I'm talking theological scholars now, have determined that Jesus was born between 5 and 3 A.D. So, right there...

00:56:31.000 So, right there, we've got another five years, considering the fact that we're being told that our calendar began ticking on the day of Jesus' birth.

00:56:41.000 So, long story short, the third argument is also that it is now Berkeley scholars and scholars at a university in Rome Have determined that in the Middle Ages, when the monks were in charge of recording our dates and everything like that, that they also made a mistake up to five years.

00:57:08.000 So, the interesting thing is that, to make a long story short, that we could be as far off as ten years with our current date.

00:57:19.000 And if you take into consideration when...

00:57:23.000 Did our calendar really start ticking?

00:57:25.000 Was it at the time when Jesus died?

00:57:28.000 Or was it at the time when he was nailed to the cross?

00:57:31.000 Who knows these things?

00:57:33.000 Some have suggested that we're off by 200 years.

00:57:36.000 And these are not people that just pulled this stuff out of their butts, but they're scholars at universities who have studied this stuff.

00:57:46.000 And so the bottom line is that the whole 2020 2012, it's nothing else but complete hysteria and nothing, let me repeat, absolutely nothing will happen next year.

00:58:01.000 Dude, you've got to talk to Daniel Pinchback because he's written books and he doesn't agree with you.

00:58:05.000 That's fine.

00:58:06.000 He thinks Quetzalcoatl is coming.

00:58:08.000 And God bless him and Quetzalcoatl will not come. 1.00

00:58:12.000 Now, didn't they predict...

00:58:14.000 And by the way, Quetzalcoatl was an extraterrestrial spaceship.

00:58:17.000 You think so?

00:58:18.000 Absolutely.

00:58:19.000 Didn't they predict that the Mayans accurately predicted the sonar looter eclipses in the future?

00:58:28.000 So, if they predicted that, how is it possible that we say they predicted it right?

00:58:32.000 We must be following their timeline.

00:58:34.000 If we're following their timeline, then...

00:58:37.000 It must be 2012. Oh no, absolutely, you're right.

00:58:40.000 But if our calendar from the very beginning is wrong, then we are basing our wrong calendar on their calculation.

00:58:50.000 Right, but if we're basing our wrong calendar on their calculations and it lines up with what we call 1919, what we call 2012, then shouldn't it be that they got the lunar eclipses right, so they got 2012 right?

00:59:04.000 No, they definitely have 2012 right.

00:59:07.000 And by the way, the only thing...

00:59:12.000 In their counting.

00:59:13.000 In their counting, but not ours.

00:59:14.000 Yes, exactly.

00:59:15.000 But how is their counting, like, line up exactly with ours when it comes to the prediction of solar and lunar eclipses, then?

00:59:22.000 Well, solar and lunar eclipses, it doesn't matter what you're in.

00:59:26.000 Right, but they accurately depicted the year that these solar and lunar eclipses were going to take place according to our calendar.

00:59:33.000 But we superimposed their counting onto ours.

00:59:37.000 Okay, so we tried to make it fit.

00:59:40.000 Yes, exactly.

00:59:41.000 So, you see, and here's the other thing that's...

00:59:44.000 It's tricky when you get two calendars too, right?

00:59:46.000 Like, one a completely different type of calendar than ours...

00:59:49.000 So there must be something happening on December 21st, 2012. That must signify at the end of the 13th Bakhtun?

00:59:57.000 What does that mean?

00:59:58.000 The end of the long count.

01:00:00.000 And that is the exact thing.

01:00:02.000 The Mayans, not once, not once did they ever say that the world was going to end.

01:00:09.000 The only thing they said is that one period of time ends, and a new period of time begins.

01:00:16.000 So it could be that, you know, if you believe, some people believe that time has certain qualities to it, that there are times when things are easier and times when things are harder, and that this is literally like an ebb and flow like the tides, and that perhaps what the Mayans were predicting is just some new stage of humanity, some new stage of existence, some new stage of the earth and the universe, that things just keep flowing in this sort of a circular direction.

01:00:43.000 Well, yeah.

01:00:44.000 I mean, look, everything, as we know, is cyclical.

01:00:47.000 So that is definitely...

01:00:49.000 And they mastered the procession of the equinoxes.

01:00:53.000 Yes.

01:00:54.000 And they had figured that out.

01:00:55.000 They had figured out a lot of cycles that were really complex.

01:00:57.000 But who taught them this?

01:00:59.000 And they're also very true.

01:01:01.000 Mushrooms, mushrooms, and a lot of free time.

01:01:04.000 And then also...

01:01:04.000 So the aliens were dressed up as little mushroom mascots.

01:01:08.000 The aliens might be...

01:01:08.000 That's what it is.

01:01:10.000 What do you say to people that say, well...

01:01:15.000 How do we know Jesus really even existed?

01:01:17.000 Yeah.

01:01:17.000 Isn't there like DVDs and stuff that...

01:01:19.000 What was that DVD? The God that wasn't there.

01:01:22.000 The God that wasn't there.

01:01:23.000 Yeah, there's a lot of people that argue scientifically that he's not a real figure.

01:01:28.000 You know, I personally think that Jesus 100% was a historical figure.

01:01:33.000 Do you think he was an alien?

01:01:34.000 No.

01:01:35.000 No.

01:01:36.000 And neither was Buddha, and neither were any of the other quote-unquote prophets and saints.

01:01:40.000 What about just a regular astronaut?

01:01:41.000 No.

01:01:42.000 No.

01:01:43.000 No, I just think that, you know, Jesus, you know, was a historical figure, was able to move people, but that he was the Son of God, in my opinion, is nonsense, because we are all the sons and daughters of God.

01:01:56.000 We all have the divine within our hearts.

01:01:58.000 But what kind of proof, I mean, you've studied a lot of ancient cultures, obviously.

01:02:02.000 Do you know of any proof that would...

01:02:04.000 That Jesus existed.

01:02:05.000 Exactly.

01:02:07.000 Well, I mean, we have stories.

01:02:11.000 We have texts that have been written down at the time, like the Qumran texts, the Dead Sea Scrolls, and things like that.

01:02:19.000 So, I mean, obviously nobody took a picture, and, you know, there are some...

01:02:25.000 Well, the Qumran text is where you get real squirrely, because the Dead Sea Scrolls, that's where they trace it back to an ancient Sumerian word.

01:02:31.000 Christ is an ancient Sumerian word that means a mushroom covered in God's semen.

01:02:35.000 Well, interestingly enough, what's also fascinating and what many people don't know is that before Jesus, there were 15 other crucified, quote-unquote, saviors in human history.

01:02:51.000 And so it's all very bizarre that, you know, Christianity claims that he was the only one, which is completely...

01:03:00.000 Completely untrue.

01:03:01.000 Well, when you measure his story next to all these other stories, I mean, even Hercules. 0.90

01:03:06.000 Hercules and Jesus are pretty fucking close. 0.99

01:03:09.000 A lot of goddamn similarities. 0.99

01:03:11.000 You know, it's pretty obvious that we've always been looking for a savior. 0.99

01:03:15.000 We've always been looking for a one.

01:03:17.000 A one thing.

01:03:18.000 And you think that's just like some alpha male chimpanzee thing where you look for the alpha and you think somehow, you know, that at one point in time there was a super alpha...

01:03:28.000 And the super alpha had all the answers.

01:03:30.000 Is it just a myth to keep people going?

01:03:33.000 What is that?

01:03:34.000 What is the need for this super alpha?

01:03:37.000 Do you think that it signifies this alien intervention in human history?

01:03:42.000 Is that what you personally believe?

01:03:44.000 No, I just think that a lot of times people are not happy with their own thoughts.

01:03:53.000 That they need to...

01:03:55.000 But there's a theme.

01:03:56.000 And the theme is that at one point in time, there was a God.

01:04:00.000 The theme exists in all of them.

01:04:01.000 All of the different religions all talk about one point in time, there was a God. 0.98

01:04:06.000 And this God had all the answers, and this is the shit that he wrote down. 1.00

01:04:10.000 This is the shit that he told people. 0.99

01:04:11.000 Well, yes, but here's the thing that, you know, I mean, if you want to look at the Old Testament where we have a description of quote-unquote God, in the ancient Aslan opinion, whatever or whoever was described in the Old Testament, and this is exclusively referring to the Old Testament, it has nothing to do with the New Testament. 0.99

01:04:30.000 Like the Ezekiel shit. 0.92

01:04:31.000 Yes. 0.99

01:04:32.000 That whatever or whoever was described in the Old Testament, by all means, was not God.

01:04:39.000 That being or that humanoid creature that was here was misinterpreted or thought as God, as something divine, something spiritual, something more advanced, something magical.

01:04:54.000 But it was alien.

01:04:55.000 It was 100%.

01:04:56.000 So it was Jesus.

01:04:56.000 So Jesus was an alien.

01:04:58.000 No, I just said it has nothing to do with the New Testament.

01:05:00.000 No way.

01:05:01.000 Old Testament.

01:05:01.000 No, no, no.

01:05:02.000 Old Testament, yes.

01:05:03.000 So God was an alien, and Jesus was just...

01:05:05.000 No, no.

01:05:06.000 See, it was not God.

01:05:07.000 That's the thing.

01:05:08.000 That's what you're saying.

01:05:09.000 Our ancestors thought it was God.

01:05:11.000 Because, see, a lot of people say, well, does that mean you're an atheist?

01:05:15.000 Does that mean you don't believe in God?

01:05:17.000 And, you know, because a lot of debunkers, or actually creationists...

01:05:22.000 Are always using Albert Einstein as their best example, where they say, see, even Albert Einstein, he believes in God, so, you know, we must be right with our ideas.

01:05:35.000 Well, that is only half of the story, because when Albert Einstein was asked as a journalist, when a journalist asked Albert Einstein, do you believe in God?

01:05:46.000 What Einstein said, and anyone can go and look this up, is the fact that He replied by saying, Well, dear journalist, before I can answer your question, we have to define what your definition or your idea of God is.

01:06:06.000 And then the journalist said, Well, I believe in the Old Testament God and Creator.

01:06:12.000 And then Albert said, Well, if that is your definition of God, then I respectfully will tell you that I do not believe in God.

01:06:22.000 And then he's like, well then, so what are you talking about?

01:06:25.000 And Einstein then explained his definition, or his idea of God and the universe, and the order that we have in the universe amidst chaos, and he said, and if that is what, and this to me is my idea of God, that there's some order to the universe, because, you know, God does not throw dice.

01:06:45.000 That's one of his most famous quotes.

01:06:48.000 So, therein lies the difference that, yes, I do think that there is an all-encompassing force out there, but it's not a personal God.

01:06:57.000 It's not where, you know, I pray and then all of a sudden I'm praying for something to happen.

01:07:03.000 I mean, that to me is a waste of time, to be honest with you.

01:07:07.000 It's like, if you want something to happen, you've got to go out there and do it yourself, no matter what the odds are.

01:07:12.000 You do, but I think the reason why the idea of prayer exists is because people can manifest things with their own thoughts and staying positive and focusing on a goal and making things happen, to a certain extent.

01:07:22.000 But that, to me, is just thought.

01:07:25.000 The idea of prayer.

01:07:27.000 Prayer is just advanced thought.

01:07:28.000 Right, but the moment that...

01:07:31.000 See, therein, to me, that's where it gets a bit wacky, because the moment that you correlate your own powers, your own connection to the universe that you have, the moment that you connect that to a personal God and put everything that you have...

01:07:50.000 You basically deny all responsibility.

01:07:53.000 You say, okay, fine, God will take care of it.

01:07:57.000 That, to me, is such a cop-out attitude.

01:08:01.000 It's like, you know, why?

01:08:04.000 No, be responsible for your own actions and don't rely...

01:08:09.000 No, I completely agree, but I think that that's where the idea of prayer came from, the reason why it exists to this day, because you can sort of make things happen if you focus on them for a long period of time, and people who have been successful at making things happen have, like, stepped back and said, look, you know, we made this happen by prayer.

01:08:26.000 We thought this through.

01:08:27.000 Get a cough jar, bro.

01:08:29.000 Open it up.

01:08:29.000 Don't be scared.

01:08:30.000 You need one.

01:08:31.000 Stop coughing.

01:08:32.000 Poor little sicky.

01:08:33.000 Poor little sicky, Brian.

01:08:35.000 Now, um...

01:08:36.000 You've been doing this for a long time now.

01:08:38.000 You said in 1998 you started out your magazine.

01:08:42.000 How do you get approached to be doing this ancient alien show?

01:08:44.000 How does this happen?

01:08:45.000 Do they just seek out people with, you know, sort of fringe beliefs and people that are experts on these subjects?

01:08:52.000 No, it was actually a very funny story, and that was, if you remember, in 2008, that new Indiana Jones movie came out, Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, and it's kind of a disaster of a movie, in my opinion, but whatever.

01:09:05.000 They're making another one, can you believe it?

01:09:07.000 To redeem themselves, I hope.

01:09:09.000 I hope.

01:09:09.000 It can make it worse.

01:09:10.000 No, no, no.

01:09:11.000 It can't get worse.

01:09:12.000 Follow those guys.

01:09:13.000 It can't get worse.

01:09:14.000 They just don't seem to be making the same quality of movies.

01:09:16.000 Anyway, the great thing about the movie itself was the idea behind it was great, but the execution was horrid.

01:09:25.000 It was basically an ancient alien movie where he was chasing a crystal skull, and the crystal skull happened to be extraterrestrial origin, this and that.

01:09:34.000 So the History Channel made a two-hour documentary about Indiana Jones and the feasibility behind all the stuff that he chased down.

01:09:44.000 And so it was one segment about crystal skulls in which I appeared and talked about the possibility whether the Mitchell Hedges skull, for example...

01:09:58.000 The Mitchell Hedges skull is one of the most perfect, or actually the most perfect crystal skull.

01:10:08.000 How do you spell it?

01:10:08.000 M-I-T-C-H-E-L-L-E. Hedges, H-E-D-G-E-S. Mitchell Hedges' skull.

01:10:18.000 And that skull was found in Belize by Mitchell Hedges' daughter on her birthday.

01:10:26.000 And it's this crystal clear...

01:10:31.000 It's a crystal that was found in the shape of a humanoid head.

01:10:36.000 I mean, it's massive.

01:10:37.000 It's really big.

01:10:38.000 If you go to MitchellHedges.com, they have a countdown to revelation.

01:10:44.000 Yeah, see, it's bloom and doom, once again.

01:10:47.000 I mean, it's just crazy.

01:10:49.000 It's a dope-looking skull.

01:10:50.000 And what did you say about this skull?

01:10:52.000 Some of them have been disproved, right?

01:10:54.000 Yes, and there's no question about it.

01:10:56.000 In fact, you know, with this one here, it's so magnificent where you can actually detach the jawbone from it, which means that it's from the same crystal, which means it had to be one big freaking rock out of which this whole thing was made.

01:11:14.000 And when was it found?

01:11:17.000 In the early 1900s.

01:11:19.000 And when Mitchell Hedges, or the actual caretaker, after Mitchell Hedges died and Anna took over or kept the skull, she and her, this other dude whose name escapes me right now, I think it's Dan Nisarino or something, they brought it in the 1960s to the labs up in the Bay Area of Hewlett-Packard.

01:11:45.000 And even in the day, of course, only the best scientists worked at these particular factories and labs.

01:11:55.000 And when the Hewlett-Packard scientists were Done with all their research, their conclusion was very simple.

01:12:06.000 And they said, and I quote, this skull should not exist.

01:12:11.000 And meaning that they did not find any tool marks, they did not find any polish, any evidence that this thing was polished or anything like that.

01:12:22.000 And even more crazy is the fact that each crystal, it grows in a particular axis.

01:12:28.000 In order to work crystal, you have to turn the crystal at high speeds in that direction of the axis.

01:12:35.000 And according to the Hewlett-Packard people, it was ground against its grain.

01:12:40.000 And that would shatter Every crystal that you would do this to, and the Mitchell Hedges skull, it still exists, and it shouldn't.

01:12:52.000 So it's a big mystery.

01:12:54.000 And yes, some crystal skulls have been determined that they are modern-day creations, but not the Mitchell Hedges skull.

01:13:04.000 Again, that could be another tool that we're not...

01:13:06.000 they used to have back in the day that we're not thinking about, though, right?

01:13:10.000 Of course!

01:13:10.000 Yeah, of course.

01:13:11.000 Yeah, sure.

01:13:12.000 Of course.

01:13:12.000 And so this is how you got hooked up with the History Channel.

01:13:15.000 And then they're like, we like this dude with crazy hair.

01:13:18.000 Let's bring him in.

01:13:19.000 What do you think about Nazis?

01:13:20.000 No, and then I got a call and I was asked, you know, had I heard of a book called Chariots of the Gods and Eric Von Danik?

01:13:28.000 And I said, of course.

01:13:29.000 You know, we publish a magazine together and this and that.

01:13:33.000 And here we are today.

01:13:34.000 I mean, it was just an idea to shoot a two-hour documentary 40 years after Chariots of the Gods.

01:13:42.000 I got in an argument with a journalist when I first came to Hollywood.

01:13:45.000 It wasn't really an argument.

01:13:46.000 It was a talk at one of these...

01:13:48.000 They had these...

01:13:49.000 It was Fox.

01:13:50.000 I was on Fox.

01:13:51.000 They had a party for a sitcom I was on.

01:13:54.000 And the guy said, Hey, can I ask you a couple of questions?

01:13:57.000 And he goes, Okay.

01:13:57.000 So he rattles off a bunch of questions.

01:13:59.000 And one of them was, do you believe in aliens?

01:14:02.000 And I think I said yeah.

01:14:04.000 And he said, why?

01:14:05.000 And I said, well, I saw this thing, Chariots of the Gods, and it's a pretty incredible movie, and I think it's more than possible.

01:14:12.000 There's a lot of stars out there. 0.99

01:14:13.000 And he started going off on how Chariots of the Gods was bullshit. 0.82

01:14:16.000 And he goes, oh, it's been completely debunked, and so I'm pretty calm about that kind of stuff. 0.97

01:14:22.000 I go, all right, well, how was it debunked?

01:14:24.000 And he had no answer.

01:14:25.000 And I said, but yet you're so convinced that it's debunked.

01:14:27.000 Well, I know I read that it had been debunked.

01:14:29.000 I go, but you don't remember what you read.

01:14:31.000 But yet, did you read Chariots of the Gods?

01:14:34.000 And he's like, no, I didn't read it.

01:14:35.000 But I mean, I know it's all about aliens, and aliens came and made these structures.

01:14:40.000 I'm like, wow, dude, you're pretty convinced. 0.76

01:14:42.000 But it was like, a sensible man doesn't believe such silly things.

01:14:47.000 And that is the whole attitude about aliens, about extraterrestrials, or even about ancient civilizations. 0.88

01:14:53.000 The sensible man doesn't buy into such nonsense. 0.99

01:14:57.000 And you must have had to deal with that your whole fucking life. 1.00

01:14:59.000 Oh no, absolutely. 1.00

01:15:00.000 And that's the thing. 1.00

01:15:01.000 And that's where you just go wacky with the hair and the jewelry and you're like, fuck it, bitch, I'm going deep. 1.00

01:15:06.000 Yeah, you know what I'm saying? 1.00

01:15:07.000 Going deep into the crazy hole.

01:15:08.000 I'm still the same guy from ten years ago.

01:15:10.000 You know, that's the thing.

01:15:11.000 It's like, to me, you know, especially the Chariots of the Gods argument that, you know, from Daniken has been debunked and things like that.

01:15:20.000 It's like, really?

01:15:20.000 I mean, have you looked at this stuff?

01:15:22.000 Because the bottom line is that Chariots of the Gods had over 200 question marks in it. 0.99

01:15:28.000 And it even had a freaking question mark in the fucking title. 0.99

01:15:30.000 Right. 0.99

01:15:31.000 So, I mean, right there...

01:15:33.000 It was a question.

01:15:35.000 It is an idea.

01:15:37.000 It's raising questions.

01:15:39.000 And if those questions happen to be uncomfortable questions, you know what?

01:15:43.000 So be it. 0.98

01:15:44.000 Or if a couple of them are wrong, you're talking about a lot of goddamn questions in that book. 0.99

01:15:48.000 Well, here's the thing. 0.97

01:15:49.000 Let me ask you this.

01:15:50.000 When was the last time you saw a scientist or any author or whatever...

01:15:55.000 Give, you know, 30 years after their first publication and say, well, you know, on page so-and-so I made a mistake.

01:16:04.000 When Chariots of the Gods came out as the 35-year edition, the 35-year anniversary edition, Eric wrote a 16-page preface to the new edition, And in that, he pointed out exactly which mistakes he made in the 1960 or 1970 book, on what page, and on what happened here.

01:16:32.000 For example, one example is that...

01:16:36.000 The Iron Pillar in New Delhi.

01:16:39.000 For a long time, we thought that this might be something that is of extraterrestrial origin, or at least that extraterrestrials taught these metallurgists how to pour this pillar of iron, because up to that time, it didn't corrode, it didn't rust, and it had been around for...

01:16:58.000 Many, many years.

01:17:00.000 Hundreds and hundreds of years.

01:17:01.000 And guess what?

01:17:03.000 The thing is rusting today.

01:17:04.000 It's corroding.

01:17:05.000 So you know what?

01:17:06.000 That piece of evidence?

01:17:08.000 Out the window.

01:17:09.000 You know what?

01:17:09.000 Who cares?

01:17:10.000 Because the conclusion is that it...

01:17:14.000 In case a piece of evidence turns out to be wrong or false, if you eliminate that piece of evidence, it only makes the overall theory stronger because you eliminate false stuff.

01:17:29.000 So to suggest that just because there were a few mistakes in Chariots of the Gods, which Eric openly admitted to, that doesn't mean that the whole ancient alien theory all of a sudden becomes irrelevant.

01:17:40.000 On the contrary, it makes it more stronger.

01:17:43.000 And the fact...

01:17:44.000 That today, especially on the show Ancient Aliens...

01:17:48.000 I mean, by the way, tomorrow is the premiere of Season 3. I'm very excited about that.

01:17:53.000 What's going on?

01:17:54.000 Thursday night...

01:17:56.000 Can you preview us?

01:17:57.000 Can you tell us?

01:17:58.000 Give us some scoops?

01:17:59.000 Any Nazi stuff?

01:18:00.000 There is definitely stuff in there that has not been explored in the previous season.

01:18:06.000 The History Channel needs to combine Nazis, UFOs, and ghosts together.

01:18:10.000 And cowboys. 0.72

01:18:11.000 And monsters. 1.00

01:18:12.000 One old fucking smash-em-up show. 0.99

01:18:16.000 And, you know, so... 0.99

01:18:18.000 I lost my train of thought.

01:18:20.000 The new season of the History Channel H&L special.

01:18:23.000 Especially now in Season 3, it's amazing how many university professors have come forward and agreed... 0.98

01:18:33.000 To be on a show called Ancient Fucking Aliens. 0.98

01:18:36.000 Are you kidding me? 0.99

01:18:37.000 The fact that university professors...

01:18:40.000 Because, as you know, you're in TV, you have to disclose what show you're calling from or what show you're going to be on.

01:18:47.000 You can't just, you know, put a question mark there.

01:18:50.000 So the fact that university professors are now coming forward, especially for Season 3...

01:18:56.000 To appear on that show, I mean, that speaks volumes.

01:19:00.000 I mean, it's huge that all of a sudden, you know, Eric Von Danik and Childress and I and Martel and Coppens, we're surrounded by people from MIT talking about ancient aliens.

01:19:10.000 And what are exactly these professors on about?

01:19:14.000 What is their subjects of expertise?

01:19:16.000 What are they testifying about?

01:19:18.000 Well, I mean, we, for example, in this episode that airs tomorrow, Aliens and the Old West, We have professors, not only do we have elders, Native American elders, who are talking about the idea of star people in the ancient American West,

01:19:37.000 but also there are professors that we've gotten from universities and curators of museums where they corroborate the stories about the star people.

01:19:50.000 Like how do they do that?

01:19:52.000 Well, because they have access to many recordings that were written down by previous...

01:20:05.000 in the Old West.

01:20:07.000 Things for the first time would be able to be recorded because in ancient Native American times, their traditions were brought from generation to generation...

01:20:18.000 Spoken words.

01:20:19.000 Spoken words, exactly.

01:20:21.000 And then when, you know...

01:20:24.000 White men came. 0.54

01:20:25.000 Yeah, I guess, unfortunately.

01:20:27.000 You know, the whole thing was recorded all of a sudden.

01:20:30.000 And so we have very old recordings talking about these star people that came, allegedly, a long time ago.

01:20:38.000 And so that is a huge, huge part of...

01:20:43.000 Of our theory that there are entire cultures, for example, Native Americans, that talk about the kachinas descending from the sky in Flying shields, and they were very adamant, because of course Native Americans, you know, believe in the spiritual realm, there's no question, but they're also very adamant to say that there are two worlds.

01:21:08.000 There is the spiritual realm, and then there is also the physical realm, and that the star people were part of the physical realm.

01:21:18.000 And here we are to say, oh, well, you know, they didn't know what they were talking about, because they were just all high.

01:21:24.000 They were getting that peyote.

01:21:26.000 Which, you know, I mean, of course, there is not one culture in the world that did not dabble in mind-altering drugs.

01:21:34.000 I mean, it's just a complete...

01:21:37.000 It's who we are as a people.

01:21:40.000 There is no question about that.

01:21:42.000 But at the same time, there were always these different levels that, yes, there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that the spiritual realm does exist.

01:21:53.000 But we also have a physical realm in which our ancestors said that somebody came In a physical form.

01:22:02.000 So you think that there's probably some sort of an advanced life or some sort of a different life in a non-material form as well?

01:22:12.000 Yes.

01:22:12.000 Like there's some sort of a spiritual realm, a dimension or something?

01:22:17.000 Absolutely.

01:22:17.000 Of something, something else, some sort of intelligent life.

01:22:21.000 And then there's physical life as well.

01:22:22.000 And you know me, I'm the nuts and bolts alien guy, right? 0.99

01:22:25.000 But at the same time, I would be a fool. 0.83

01:22:28.000 To deny or to even suggest that an ethereal realm does not exist. 0.75

01:22:34.000 Because that would render our physical world completely useless, if that's all there is.

01:22:41.000 Because a lot of people are saying, well, you know, if you die, all that's going to happen is that, you know, they're going to basically just pull the plug from the computer hard drive and things like that.

01:22:51.000 And that's usually the argument that they give.

01:22:53.000 But the bottom line is, That's not necessarily true because if you keep your computer in a very safe place and you can leave it there unplugged for a million years, if you find a power source a million years down the road and you plug that computer back in, guess what?

01:23:12.000 Everything on that hard drive is still there.

01:23:15.000 So what if the hard drive is the soul?

01:23:17.000 And therefore, once we die, our soul goes with us.

01:23:21.000 That's who we are as an essence.

01:23:23.000 Yes, we will leave this body, but at the same time, energy does not die.

01:23:30.000 It goes on in some form.

01:23:32.000 So to suggest that after this life, it's all over, I cannot process that.

01:23:38.000 It makes no sense.

01:23:39.000 What do you think of Kurzweil and Ray Kurzweil's ideas of downloading human consciousness into intelligent computers and the idea of you will be able to duplicate yourself and live forever in some sort of cyber environment?

01:23:53.000 I think it's fascinating.

01:23:55.000 What happens with the spiritual version of you, if that takes place?

01:24:01.000 Well, maybe then that's where you live, inside that cyber world.

01:24:05.000 Zombies.

01:24:05.000 Yeah, no, but the thing is, you see, and that's why movies like The Matrix, the first one, was so wonderful, because those are all fantastic and interesting ideas, but to me, I'm a big subscriber to Reincarnation.

01:24:19.000 Why is that?

01:24:21.000 Because of energy not being able to die.

01:24:24.000 And I think our soul, our essence, is energy.

01:24:27.000 It's part of this all-encompassing force that to me is the universe or God.

01:24:33.000 And so...

01:24:34.000 You know, if you have...

01:24:36.000 If you look, for example, at the Daya Lama or a lot of Buddhists, you know, who believe in reincarnation or Hindus and things like that, they always talk about how you will get reincarnated here on planet Earth as another being or another animal or whatever.

01:24:53.000 But see, to me, that's all very limited thinking because while I do subscribe to reincarnation, there is no way, in my opinion, That we would only reincarnate here on Earth.

01:25:04.000 We can reincarnate throughout the entire universe.

01:25:07.000 And that is why some people, when they come back to Earth, they're considered maybe old souls, or they're more intuitive to everything that they might have been here before. 0.99

01:25:16.000 So you think there's one universal bank of souls for the entire universe, and that everybody has to dip into it, no matter what, you know, you're on planet fucking Sirius or whatever, you know, you all dip from the same souls, and so, like, you could die here and then re-emerge on planet, go fuck yourself in the middle of nowhere.

01:25:34.000 Yeah, and somehow, but somehow with the same quote-unquote instincts or knowledge, because there is something that's out there, it's called the eternal spirit.

01:25:45.000 And that is that we all consist of particles and elements, and every 60 days, our entire bodies are completely recycled, because, I mean, we're completely changing...

01:25:58.000 I think it's every seven years.

01:25:59.000 Oh, okay, well, whatever it is, it's the complete recycling of a body, which is absolutely mind-boggling.

01:26:06.000 Yeah, it's pretty crazy that it's seven years...

01:26:08.000 And we're being bombarded by this cosmic dust, and that is what we consist of.

01:26:13.000 And this one French philosopher, Jean Chiron, in his book called The Eternal Spirit, or The Eternal Particle, suggested that each time one of our particles in our body travels through the universe, no matter what it passes through, if it's a stone or some type of a being or something...

01:26:35.000 It records everything.

01:26:37.000 And so, you know, each and every particle contains the knowledge of the entire universe, and that's within us.

01:26:45.000 I mean, it's such...

01:26:46.000 I've heard that theory of things recording things by Rupert Sheldrake.

01:26:51.000 You know who he is?

01:26:52.000 Yes.

01:26:53.000 He has some sort of theory that things contain memory.

01:26:55.000 Yes.

01:26:56.000 Houses, tables, chairs.

01:26:58.000 Everything.

01:26:58.000 Absolutely.

01:26:59.000 Because we're all made of the same stuff.

01:27:02.000 And if these particles all record the same stuff, then we are all one.

01:27:08.000 See, if you take a piece of skin and you put it underneath the electron microscope and you go deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper, everything wobbles, everything vibrates, it's all exciting down there.

01:27:21.000 And, you know, that's just...

01:27:23.000 We are...

01:27:24.000 We consist of vibration.

01:27:27.000 It's all frequency.

01:27:27.000 It's all harmonics.

01:27:29.000 Now, you take a piece of this metal cup right here, which is considered to be inorganic or dead material, and you put a little piece under the same electron microscope, and you go deeper and deeper and deeper.

01:27:42.000 At the very, very core...

01:27:45.000 It's the exact same thing.

01:27:47.000 And I would challenge you for a hundred bucks to tell me which is which.

01:27:52.000 Nobody can tell the difference unless you know which...

01:27:55.000 At the subatomic level.

01:27:56.000 Exactly.

01:27:57.000 Which means we all exist of the same stuff.

01:28:00.000 Don't we all exist actually as nothing?

01:28:03.000 I mean, isn't like most of the universe nothing?

01:28:05.000 Absolutely.

01:28:05.000 Most of the universe is mostly atoms, and most atoms are almost...

01:28:10.000 Entirely nothing.

01:28:11.000 And we consist of nothing, too, because while we can touch ourselves and touch other people and the sensation of touch and all this, it's all complete.

01:28:20.000 It's magnetism.

01:28:21.000 You should use that as a molester in a trial. 1.00

01:28:24.000 You know, grab some chick's ass and go, I touch nothing. 1.00

01:28:27.000 There's nothing to touch. 1.00

01:28:29.000 There's nothing there.

01:28:30.000 I have a question.

01:28:31.000 A lot of the stuff you're saying, I agree with.

01:28:33.000 And a lot of the stuff they're saying...

01:28:36.000 Edgar Cayce, for instance, he believed in the Akashic Records, and he put himself under hypnosis, right?

01:28:48.000 Self-hypnosis, and then when he was under self-hypnosis, he became this brilliant, all-knowing man...

01:28:54.000 And he had a third grade education.

01:28:55.000 And he said that all this information can be tapped into by anybody.

01:29:01.000 You just got to learn, like meditation is part of it.

01:29:04.000 And that's why there's a big, you know, meditation is huge and yoga is huge.

01:29:07.000 Because once you master meditation, you actually can tap into the Akashic Records, which holds the answers to everything.

01:29:18.000 Were you an Edgar Cayce fan?

01:29:19.000 Did you find him at all?

01:29:20.000 No, actually.

01:29:21.000 I really don't know much about him, but it is true that, you see, we only use about 5% of our entire brain power.

01:29:33.000 Is that really true?

01:29:34.000 I've heard that's been debunked.

01:29:36.000 Well, let's say it's 10%.

01:29:39.000 I don't even think that's true.

01:29:41.000 I think they've debunked it.

01:29:43.000 I think that was back when people were ignorant about the functions of different areas of the brain, and now they've attributed different areas of the brain to different functions.

01:29:49.000 I think the more they understand about the brain, the more they realize that's a misnomer.

01:29:54.000 Have you driven down to 405?

01:29:56.000 Yeah, I have.

01:29:57.000 Do you still believe we use more?

01:29:59.000 I'm not saying that these people are thinking well.

01:30:02.000 They even said like if you use more than 10% at the same time, you're just going to seizures and stuff like that. 0.97

01:30:06.000 I think that's all horseshit.

01:30:07.000 I think that's all been disproven. 0.99

01:30:09.000 I'm almost positive, yeah.

01:30:10.000 Well, go ahead and say what you were saying.

01:30:12.000 Well, anyway, so the idea, let's operate under the assumption that, you know, we only use about 5% to 8% of our total brain power.

01:30:23.000 As one guy suggested, a philosopher, he said that the brain is the last untamed beast in the universe.

01:30:30.000 And that is true because every single thing that we see each day, every single thing that we hear, everything that we say, our brain records it.

01:30:42.000 Everything is there.

01:30:44.000 Everything is there permanently for eternity in our brains.

01:30:48.000 The only problem is...

01:30:50.000 We can't access the information.

01:30:52.000 And then, of course, there are people who are great at memorizing lines or memorizing texts or whatever, or have photographic memory.

01:31:03.000 Or autism, where they can remember everything.

01:31:06.000 Well, you know, and also, you know, normally, quote-unquote, functioning people.

01:31:09.000 I mean, you know, it's amazing how, you know, some people have the, quote-unquote, gift to recall certain things and some people don't.

01:31:17.000 And that is where I think, you know, the last frontier lies, that we could conceivably, you know, access way more of our brain power and then you could move proverbial mountains.

01:31:31.000 The 10% of the brain is absolutely a myth.

01:31:34.000 Yeah, it's absolutely been proven.

01:31:36.000 It is actually a misinterpretation, a misquote of Albert Einstein, or the misinterpretation of the work of Pierre Florens in the 1800s.

01:31:44.000 We use 100% of our brain.

01:31:46.000 They have it mapped out.

01:31:47.000 They know what part of your brain works for different areas.

01:31:49.000 They did not know at a certain point in time in history, and that's when people started kind of chirping that and saying it back and forth.

01:31:56.000 So through the wonders of the internet, we just cleared that up.

01:31:58.000 See, and this is why you never stop learning.

01:32:01.000 Never!

01:32:02.000 Every day you learn something new. 1.00

01:32:05.000 What do you think about all this Nazi shit? 0.99

01:32:07.000 Because one of the things that's fascinating about the Ancient Aliens show is how much the Nazis were into the occult and the Mahabharata... 1.00

01:32:20.000 And trying to recreate things that were in ancient scriptures.

01:32:23.000 I mean, the Indiana Jones thing, they kind of got into it with the...

01:32:26.000 What is it called?

01:32:30.000 The Ark of the Covenant.

01:32:31.000 And, you know, there's something to it. 1.00

01:32:35.000 And the Nazis were obsessed with that shit. 0.99

01:32:37.000 But if they were just some fucking coups, you know, which they clearly were in one way, but they were also so fucking advanced with rocketry and with science and, you know... 1.00

01:32:47.000 I mean, so many companies came out of Nazi Germany, you know. 0.97

01:32:51.000 I mean, just Germany, period.

01:32:53.000 Forget the Nazis. 0.88

01:32:54.000 I mean, they're so...

01:32:54.000 I mean, Porsche started their BMW. So many sophisticated engineers.

01:32:59.000 They were so advanced. 0.99

01:33:01.000 What the fuck was their big thing about UFOs? 0.99

01:33:04.000 What was the whole Nazi-UFO connection? 0.98

01:33:06.000 Because that was one of the most...

01:33:07.000 Fascinating ancient aliens to me. 0.96

01:33:11.000 Yeah, no, look, I mean, there's definitely something that can be said about this, and the whole idea, because many scholars say that Hitler and the Nazis were never into the occult.

01:33:23.000 And that is simply untrue because we have found, or they found, documents, because the Nazis were immaculate record-keepers, as we know, and it says that these expeditions to the North Pole to find, you know, openings at the North Pole and the South Pole, that these expeditions truly did exist, that the real society and the Tula society really existed and things like that.

01:33:50.000 And I personally find it fascinating, but I've got to be honest with you, that to me, it's not ancient enough to talk about egos, because that was 70 years ago.

01:34:01.000 My ancient aliens, some people consider 70-year-old people ancient, but I don't.

01:34:08.000 So my aliens happened thousands of years ago.

01:34:11.000 So you're a Sumerian, Mesopotamian type.

01:34:14.000 Egyptian and ancient Greece and things like that.

01:34:17.000 But at the same time, You just never know.

01:34:22.000 And it would be foolish to not listen to those stories or to look at these opinions because you just never know.

01:34:30.000 Just be open at all times.

01:34:32.000 Isn't there like a bunch of vases and paintings that have like old drawings of aliens on them and stuff like that?

01:34:40.000 Have those been disproven or have those...

01:34:43.000 Because I've seen a few of them where they're like, yeah, this is an alien. 0.95

01:34:46.000 I'm like, yeah, or it's just a guy that has his head shaved and the artist sucks, you know?

01:34:53.000 I mean, have you done any research on that kind of stuff? 0.81

01:34:56.000 Yeah, no, I mean, look, one of the greatest, quote-unquote, pieces of evidence that we have is, you know, the...

01:35:05.000 The carvings that we find, but also the figurines and drawings on vases like what you were saying.

01:35:13.000 And there really are...

01:35:16.000 Compelling figurines and compelling drawings that, compared to modern days, are eerily similar to modern day astronaut suits.

01:35:27.000 And, you know, a lot of times the debunkers are like, okay, so you're suggesting that the aliens were here, and why on earth would they wear the same suits, or why would they need suits like our modern day astronauts?

01:35:40.000 Because they were a little more advanced than us.

01:35:41.000 Right, exactly.

01:35:43.000 If there were us in a hundred years, we would need suits.

01:35:45.000 Right, but that's the exact argument that, you know, if we can't go to the moon without a suit, so why would aliens, if they're, you know, oxygen-based people as we are...

01:35:57.000 Or people that need to breathe oxygen for their life support.

01:36:02.000 So to suggest that aliens are so vastly different than us, I have a hard time with that.

01:36:08.000 I mean, there's some people that have suggested that aliens are just these, you know, blobs of slime.

01:36:15.000 And I'm like, okay, that's possible, but, you know...

01:36:19.000 That would defy nature, because nature is very efficient.

01:36:24.000 And I think that the building blocks and requirements for life are pretty much given throughout the entire universe.

01:36:31.000 And so that if something happens here, you know, to think that aliens would exist like in the Hollywood movies, that's a bit too much for me.

01:36:40.000 I mean, look, it's great entertainment.

01:36:43.000 But do I think that that is how it is in reality?

01:36:47.000 Not really.

01:36:48.000 I think that we're all pretty much, you know, the same out there.

01:36:52.000 You know, more advanced, obviously, but looks-wise?

01:36:55.000 Because all those ancient carvings or descriptions and paintings that we have, you know, especially if you look at the ancient Hindu gods, they look like us, beautiful, but just with blue skin, for example.

01:37:08.000 But they weren't, they didn't have four, well, in India, yes, they did have 20 arms.

01:37:12.000 Oh! 0.60

01:37:12.000 But, you know, so, you know, there's definitely something to be said that, you know, we think that we have depictions that show potential extraterrestrial visitors in the past. 0.60

01:37:28.000 You must dominate some late-night hippie pussy. 1.00

01:37:32.000 Sitting around, you know what I'm saying? 1.00

01:37:34.000 Sitting around smoking weed with some chicks at a party, and you drop some of this ancient alien knowledge? 1.00

01:37:40.000 Dude, you must just knock it out of the fucking park. 0.99

01:37:43.000 Or, should I say, have in the past. 0.99

01:37:45.000 Or, should I say, have the potential to.

01:37:47.000 I don't say you use it for evil.

01:37:50.000 Never evil.

01:37:51.000 Never evil.

01:37:53.000 Do you believe in, or what do you think about the reptilian shape-shifting genre? 0.94

01:37:59.000 Complete nonsense.

01:38:01.000 But David Icke has so many good points. 0.55

01:38:04.000 Complete nonsense.

01:38:05.000 He's got so many good points about other things.

01:38:07.000 But you mentioned shape-shifting earlier.

01:38:10.000 Yes, of course.

01:38:10.000 The aliens are going to have the possibility to turn into clouds or trees.

01:38:13.000 Yeah, but I would not say that that's only reserved for reptilians.

01:38:19.000 I mean, look, I really think that...

01:38:21.000 I don't know.

01:38:23.000 I mean, the whole argument with the whole reptilian thing...

01:38:28.000 It really doesn't matter.

01:38:31.000 Because what this theory or this whole extraterrestrial question is about is whether or not extraterrestrial life not only has been here, but also whether they're here right now.

01:38:45.000 And you know what?

01:38:45.000 Whether they're reptilian or if they look like Oompa Loompas, it doesn't matter.

01:38:52.000 The fact is that having an extraterrestrial presence on planet Earth, not only today, but for thousands of years, that is sensational enough than to suggest, yeah, you know, they're coming from planet so-and-so, their spaceship's name is so-and-so, their commander's name was so-and-so. 0.92

01:39:11.000 I mean, that is, to me, all irrelevant garbage.

01:39:14.000 And that is why the mainstream is not listening to these stories, because it's complete buffoonery to suggest what planet they're from, what their spaceship's name was, what their propulsion system was. 0.99

01:39:30.000 I mean, it's all nonsense. 0.99

01:39:31.000 Who gives a shit? 0.99

01:39:33.000 Extraterrestrials were and are here. 0.99

01:39:36.000 That's all that should matter.

01:39:38.000 Do you...

01:39:38.000 I'm sorry.

01:39:39.000 No, no.

01:39:39.000 Do you believe Robert Lazar?

01:39:42.000 Do you believe his stories?

01:39:43.000 You know who he is?

01:39:43.000 I was just thinking about him.

01:39:44.000 Him and John Lear. 1.00

01:39:45.000 Yeah, John Lear's out of his fucking mind. 1.00

01:39:47.000 He's got the craziest theories ever. 1.00

01:39:48.000 John Lear believes that there are millions of humanoids on every planet in the solar system.

01:39:56.000 And we've been to all the planets.

01:39:58.000 There's a secret NASA. Yeah, yeah.

01:40:00.000 He's kooky. 1.00

01:40:00.000 Yeah, he's completely crazy. 1.00

01:40:02.000 He's the craziest shit ever. 1.00

01:40:03.000 But Robert Lazar is not so kooky. 1.00

01:40:05.000 Robert Lazar is... 0.99

01:40:08.000 I think he's probably full of shit about some things, for sure. 0.99

01:40:11.000 But he's also a very intelligent guy. 0.99

01:40:13.000 And god damn, he sounds confident as fuck when he gives you his depictions of what happened at Area 51 and where he worked. 0.96

01:40:21.000 It's interesting. 0.99

01:40:24.000 I don't know if he's telling the truth, but from what I understand, he lied about his education.

01:40:29.000 He lied about where he went to school.

01:40:31.000 They've proven that he didn't get degrees where he said he got degrees.

01:40:35.000 So I don't know.

01:40:37.000 But again, could be more disinformation.

01:40:40.000 Could be more...

01:40:41.000 He was a really good friend of John there.

01:40:43.000 They were buddies.

01:40:44.000 Well, that's not good.

01:40:46.000 Yeah, because that John Lear guy is out to launch.

01:40:48.000 John Lear says that the moon is a...

01:40:51.000 A spaceship, right?

01:40:51.000 No, he says that that's where your soul goes to.

01:40:54.000 It's a soul catcher.

01:40:55.000 When you die, your soul goes to the moon.

01:40:57.000 See, that to me is nonsense.

01:40:59.000 It's just right there.

01:41:00.000 Okay, look.

01:41:02.000 Never say never.

01:41:05.000 But that right there, you're going to lose the mainstream audience.

01:41:09.000 You can't listen to that, guys.

01:41:10.000 John Lear, if anybody's a disinformation guy, it's John Lear. 0.96

01:41:14.000 Lear Jets, the guy's worth fucking $50 billion out there running around talking about the moon catching souls. 1.00

01:41:21.000 When you die, you live in Ron Jeremy's balls. 0.99

01:41:23.000 Tell us about some episodes, some subjects you guys are going to cover that you didn't cover the first two seasons. 0.98

01:41:30.000 You did the cowboy thing.

01:41:31.000 That's pretty good.

01:41:32.000 Yeah, no, but for example, we're talking about entire churches and buildings that are carved into the ground in Ethiopia at Aksum and at Lalibela, where apparently a...

01:41:47.000 A version where possibly the Ark of the Covenant is still buried or hidden today.

01:41:53.000 That's in Ethiopia, right?

01:41:53.000 Exactly, in a town called Aksum.

01:41:56.000 Now that's what got Graham Hancock into his whole journey that he went on.

01:42:01.000 He was a mainstream reporter, and he was covering some political unrest in Ethiopia, and he started talking to some of the people that guard the temple, where they say the Ark of the Covenant is inside.

01:42:13.000 And...

01:42:14.000 He was very compelled by the evidence and the history behind it.

01:42:19.000 What do you think about it?

01:42:40.000 And what's really fascinating is that each and every guardian of that Ark, they eventually go blind, which is really fascinating to think that you're guarding this object that only you are allowed to see, if at all.

01:42:56.000 And each and every one of these guards has gone blind.

01:42:59.000 How many?

01:43:00.000 How many, yeah.

01:43:01.000 Oh, we're talking at least 350 years recorded.

01:43:05.000 Of people going blind?

01:43:06.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:43:06.000 You would think, there you go, bitch, you could have that job. 1.00

01:43:08.000 Well, no. 1.00

01:43:09.000 I ain't going blind.

01:43:10.000 And they made out of lava?

01:43:11.000 Yeah, do you get that? 1.00

01:43:12.000 Fuck this Ark of the Covenant? 1.00

01:43:13.000 Why is it so awesome and it's willing to make you go blind? 1.00

01:43:16.000 Well, and that is the exact question.

01:43:18.000 I mean, so something is going on there, unless it's a hoax and these stories have been made up, but I choose not to think that.

01:43:24.000 The man who told Graham Hancock about it had cataracts.

01:43:28.000 You know, that was one of the things that led him to start investigating.

01:43:31.000 But I have heard that, too, that many of the people that have been in the care of this thing have been blocked.

01:43:36.000 So, what do they think?

01:43:38.000 They think that it's radioactive in some sort of a way?

01:43:41.000 Possibly, possibly.

01:43:42.000 I mean, according to...

01:43:43.000 What is it supposed to be?

01:43:45.000 Well, according to the ancient astronaut theory that I represent, the Ark of the Covenant was nothing else but a container in which an extraterrestrial food dispensing device Was stored in.

01:44:00.000 Food dispensing device.

01:44:01.000 Like an extraterrestrial vending machine?

01:44:04.000 Exactly.

01:44:05.000 I like that.

01:44:05.000 I'm going to steal that from you.

01:44:07.000 I like that very much. 0.99

01:44:08.000 So the Ark of the Covenant is nothing but a fucking vending machine. 1.00

01:44:12.000 Makes your face melt. 1.00

01:44:14.000 That's a great title right there.

01:44:15.000 That's the first one, man.

01:44:17.000 So that basically...

01:44:18.000 How did you come to that conclusion?

01:44:19.000 Well, look, in the 1970s, these two engineers by the name of Rodney Dale and George Sassoon, they wrote a book called The Mana Machine.

01:44:30.000 And if you look at...

01:44:31.000 Mana.

01:44:31.000 Mana meaning the bread that came from heaven, that fell from heaven.

01:44:36.000 Exactly.

01:44:37.000 And they basically...

01:44:39.000 Ancient astronaut people and the mushroom people need to get together and come up with a unified theory of crazy. 0.95

01:44:44.000 LAUGHTER Because that's what they believe man is.

01:44:48.000 I'm sorry, go ahead.

01:44:49.000 No, don't worry.

01:44:50.000 So there is a, in the Hebrew Zohar, there is a, sorry, in the Kabbalah, there is a text in the Kabbalah called Zohar.

01:45:02.000 And the Zohar describes an ancient of days that traveled with, during the 40-year wanderings, Through the desert that this Ancient of Days was with them all the time, and the Ancient of Days has been interpreted as the Old Testament God.

01:45:19.000 And so, these two engineers came along, and they read the description of it, and they said, you know what, this does not sound like a deity at all, but it sounds like some type of a machine.

01:45:30.000 Now, mind you, those guys were engineers, electrical engineers, so they weren't, you know, some hobbyists or something like this, and one guy was also a linguist at the same time, so...

01:45:41.000 They look at all these translations and look at all the different interpretations, and they found that some of the earliest translations of the Ancient of Days wasn't, in fact, the Ancient of Days, but the transportable one of the tanks.

01:45:58.000 Now, that is very bizarre that you have this thing that had to be disassembled and assembled every week after a certain amount of time where this machine or this object was taken apart with different parts that were connected with tubes and there was a huge light source and it was just this magnificent thing that they determined dispensed the mana Through big giant

01:46:29.000 tanks and also through tubes and things like this, that, you know, that is the reason why we have the Sabbath today, because on the Sabbath the machine had to be cleaned.

01:46:41.000 So all those different...

01:46:43.000 Yes!

01:46:44.000 This is wild stuff.

01:46:48.000 Wild and crazy stuff.

01:46:50.000 But at the same time, it's very compelling because the texts are exactly saying that, that on Friday and Saturday, you're not going to get fed because this quote-unquote deity had to be taken apart and cleaned.

01:47:03.000 And it was an extremely meticulous and dangerous process.

01:47:08.000 People died.

01:47:09.000 People who did not know how to operate or how to, you know, conduct themselves in the presence of the transportable of the tanks, they dropped to the floor dead.

01:47:20.000 And then they would lose their fingernails. 0.97

01:47:23.000 They would have balls on their skin. 1.00

01:47:24.000 I just want to say that about a minute ago, you broke my crazy meter. 0.99

01:47:28.000 It's broken. 1.00

01:47:29.000 My shit's broken. 1.00

01:47:31.000 Nice. 0.99

01:47:31.000 It don't work anymore. 0.99

01:47:32.000 Good, good.

01:47:33.000 I don't know what you're saying anymore.

01:47:34.000 I don't even know what you're saying.

01:47:36.000 That means I have done my job.

01:47:38.000 I have done my job. 0.99

01:47:39.000 I'm trying to throw your shit into my brain, what you were saying about this machine. 1.00

01:47:43.000 And my brain's going... 1.00

01:47:45.000 What the fuck are you asking me? 1.00

01:47:47.000 Do you think it's possible that there was like this ancient vending machine that killed everybody? 1.00

01:47:52.000 Why would they do that?

01:47:53.000 Was there a shortage of food back then?

01:47:54.000 Couldn't they just go get food?

01:47:56.000 Maybe.

01:47:56.000 Not in the desert.

01:47:58.000 Some awesome food.

01:47:59.000 They had awesome food.

01:48:00.000 If you took an ice cream truck back in the time machine, people would freak the fuck out. 0.98

01:48:04.000 Freak the fuck out. 1.00

01:48:05.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

01:48:06.000 Yeah, you would run shit with an ice cream cone. 1.00

01:48:08.000 The big stick pussy that you would get if you had an ice cream machine back there. 1.00

01:48:12.000 There are ancient stories where they talk about magical glowing tablets that contain the universal knowledge. 0.99

01:48:20.000 If you take that laptop back to 10,000 years ago, you have a magical tablet all of a sudden.

01:48:27.000 Yeah, it is true.

01:48:29.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:48:29.000 Well, you know, like I said, I believe that there's some shit that human beings have discovered a long fucking time ago and then rediscovered it. 0.99

01:48:36.000 If human beings created the pyramids, and that is the general consensus, right? 0.99

01:48:40.000 And I agree with that.

01:48:41.000 It was definitely human beings.

01:48:43.000 But with the assistance of extraterrestrial technology...

01:48:48.000 Because that is what ancient texts, for example, the Al-Hitat or Al-Kitat are saying, written by the Egyptian historian Al-Makritzi, that the pyramids were built by Zaurit, who was a king, and his people, with the assistance of the guardians of the sky.

01:49:06.000 And in our interpretation, of course, the guardians of the sky were advanced flesh and blood extraterrestrials who taught mankind how to use certain machinery.

01:49:16.000 Yo.

01:49:17.000 That's heavy.

01:49:18.000 So, Zachariah Sitchin believed that the pyramids were never tombs, they were never built as tombs.

01:49:24.000 He believes that they were beacons for the Anunnaki. 1.00

01:49:29.000 Yes, I mean, that is definitely a possibility.

01:49:32.000 Personally, I agree with the notion that the pyramids were never tombs, because even when the first time that the pyramids were, allegedly the seals were broken, No actual bodies were found in there.

01:49:49.000 And what's really fascinating is the fact that, you know, the pyramids defy every single other structure in Egypt because you walk inside any tomb in Egypt and the walls are filled with hieroglyphics and really, I mean, it says exactly when it was built, by whom, and how, and when, and what, and where.

01:50:11.000 And you go inside the pyramids and they're completely anonymous except for a couple of cartouches that the debate is still out whether or not these cartouches are in fact forgeries or not.

01:50:21.000 So that mystery has not yet been solved, despite what mainstream archaeologists are saying.

01:50:28.000 When they've dated the Great Pyramid back to 2500 BC, what have they used to date that?

01:50:34.000 What is the...

01:50:35.000 Oh, they basically...

01:50:37.000 And I love that you just asked that question because...

01:50:42.000 The great misunderstanding is that, you know, when they...

01:50:47.000 There's a lot of people that say, you know, when they dated the Sphinx or when they dated the Pyramid and when they...

01:50:53.000 And right there, you need to take a step back because nobody was actually able to do that because you can't really date stone because stone is an inorganic material.

01:51:05.000 If you carbon date something with what they call the C14 or carbon 14 method with dating, you can only date something that's Of a living material, like bones or coal or textiles and things like that, because what they do is they measure the half-life period of radioactive isotopes.

01:51:27.000 And so that's how you can accurately date, for example, an old fire pit that has been found.

01:51:34.000 And many times archaeologists are dating a fire pit and then they come up with a The test yields a particular date, let's say, 500 BC, and then they say, well, okay, that means that the site itself also dates from 500 BC. And that,

01:51:54.000 in my opinion, is a logical fallacy, because just because a fire pit dates to 500 BC doesn't mean that the stone structure was also built in 500 BC. They can't date stones, right?

01:52:07.000 Exactly.

01:52:08.000 Exactly.

01:52:08.000 So how do they do Gobekli Tepe?

01:52:10.000 How do they say that that thing is 12,000 years old?

01:52:12.000 With the fire pits and the bones that were found in and around that area.

01:52:17.000 So still, they don't guesswork.

01:52:19.000 Absolutely.

01:52:19.000 Which means that the stones themselves could date back even further.

01:52:23.000 Or could be way newer.

01:52:25.000 Yes, of course.

01:52:27.000 That's weird that they're using Gobekli Tepe, though.

01:52:29.000 For folks that don't know, it's right now considered to be the oldest structure ever discovered.

01:52:34.000 And they're saying that it's 6,000 years before Mesopotamia and Sumer, which was previously considered to be the cradle of civilization, the oldest.

01:52:42.000 And they're saying that this was all constructed back when people were hunter-gatherers. 0.96

01:52:46.000 But if that is what they're saying, how can you say that if it's just fire pit shit and bones and whatever? 0.99

01:52:52.000 Right. 0.78

01:52:52.000 No, and the thing is also that, you know, on the little Mediterranean island in Malta, which is right next to Sicily, there are megalithic structures, megalithic meaning gigantic stones that are, you know, 250, 500 metric tons heavy, these slabs that have been transported from somewhere else, put into place with incredible precision. 0.78

01:53:14.000 And some of these have dated to 12,000 BC, when allegedly we were just, you know, munching on bananas.

01:53:21.000 And how do they date these to 12,000 BC? Also, again, with bones and with, you know, having found fire pits.

01:53:28.000 But that does not mean that the stones themselves have been placed there even earlier.

01:53:32.000 Look, there is a method out there called the thermoluminescent dating method of stone, Where you can conceivably date stone, but it's a bit inaccurate because what happens is if you polish or cut a stone, the oxygen in the air, there's a chemical reaction that takes place with the surface of that stone and they can somehow measure this...

01:54:02.000 Once it's been cut.

01:54:02.000 Exactly.

01:54:03.000 But it's a very expensive way Of testing something.

01:54:08.000 Many universities, unfortunately, don't have the money, so they don't do that.

01:54:12.000 The third way is where each time that you have an ancient stone, over time, because we were talking before about erosion and If you have thousands of years of rainfall, what is left over?

01:54:26.000 You gave the answer.

01:54:28.000 You said rocks.

01:54:29.000 And that is exactly right.

01:54:31.000 So, over time, what forms over a rock is this thin film that just built.

01:54:36.000 It's called a patina.

01:54:38.000 And the thicker this film, or this patina is, the older the stone.

01:54:44.000 So, people have, in fact, been able to measure the patina And people have determined that some of these cuts are thousands and thousands of years old, meaning they're not modern-day creations.

01:55:00.000 And right there, it just bothers the mind because it was certainly not cut with bronze tools or with chicken bones, as we're led to believe.

01:55:08.000 If you had the opportunity right now, if the government came and they picked you up and Air Force One and flew you to Washington, I said, listen, dude, we're going to offer you something. 0.99

01:55:17.000 You know a lot about this shit. 0.99

01:55:19.000 We could use you. 1.00

01:55:20.000 We're going to show you some shit, and we need you to help us. 0.99

01:55:22.000 But you can't tell anybody. 0.99

01:55:24.000 You've got to quit all your ancient alien stuff. 1.00

01:55:27.000 You've got to quit your magazine.

01:55:29.000 You've got to work for the government and tell no one. 1.00

01:55:31.000 And then monitor your fucking calls. 1.00

01:55:33.000 Tell anybody you're dead. 1.00

01:55:34.000 But they're going to take you to Area 51. They're going to take you to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base to Hangar 18 and...

01:55:40.000 They're gonna show you all that shit. 0.99

01:55:41.000 Would you be down? 1.00

01:55:42.000 They're gonna show you the ancient...

01:55:43.000 Show you everything.

01:55:45.000 You know the answer.

01:55:46.000 Yes.

01:55:47.000 You would do it.

01:55:48.000 You would do it, right?

01:55:49.000 You would give up on civilization and be a suit.

01:55:50.000 Of course.

01:55:51.000 I might do it, too.

01:55:52.000 I might do it, too, ladies and gentlemen.

01:55:54.000 I might quit comedy.

01:55:55.000 Quit comedy to learn about the aliens.

01:55:58.000 I don't know if it helped me.

01:56:01.000 If you knew for a fact, would it help?

01:56:05.000 Would you just sit around waiting for the aliens to come, and then when they didn't, would you be disappointed?

01:56:09.000 I mean, if you do know that there are aliens out there and they're monitoring...

01:56:12.000 You're like, come on, make something happen.

01:56:15.000 Well, here's something I would like to put on the record here, that personally, I have never seen a UFO. I have never been visited.

01:56:23.000 I have never had any, you know, an abduction experience or anything like this.

01:56:28.000 So, because a lot of people ask me that, and then I tell them, no, actually, I haven't.

01:56:32.000 And they're like, well, then how do you subscribe to these ideas?

01:56:35.000 Why?

01:56:36.000 And I'm like, well, because, you know, to me, this has really nothing to do with belief, because belief always has this quote-unquote religious connotation.

01:56:44.000 It means that if you believe something, you have to have faith.

01:56:47.000 I don't have faith in aliens.

01:56:49.000 I don't worship them.

01:56:50.000 I don't, quote-unquote, think of them as spiritual or divine beings.

01:56:56.000 They're people like us, just more advanced technologically speaking.

01:57:00.000 So to me, it's more of an idea of knowing instead of believing.

01:57:06.000 I think about these things.

01:57:08.000 It's not that I, quote-unquote, believe in it.

01:57:11.000 Do you think there's a broad spectrum of aliens out there? 1.00

01:57:13.000 There's some of them that are just a little more advanced than us, like they could visit us and maybe fuck us and take our gold? 1.00

01:57:20.000 Sure. 0.99

01:57:20.000 And there's other ones that are like super advanced that are just showing up as clouds and monitoring us and waiting for explosions. 0.99

01:57:28.000 There is this thing out there where this guy, Kardashev, this Soviet scientist in the 60s, or the 70s actually, came up with this...

01:57:37.000 The classification of civilizations.

01:57:39.000 And he said that there's basically three types of civilizations out there.

01:57:43.000 Type 1, Type 2, Type 3. Type 1 civilization is...

01:57:47.000 And it's all about energy.

01:57:49.000 Because in the end, that's all what it comes down to.

01:57:52.000 And he basically suggested that a Type I civilization is capable of harnessing the energy resources of their own home planet.

01:58:01.000 A Type II civilization is able to harness the energy resources of their solar system, and a Type III civilization is able to harness the energy resources of their own galaxy.

01:58:14.000 Now we, on this scale, we're none.

01:58:17.000 We are a Type 0 civilization on the verge of becoming a Type 1 civilization. 0.92

01:58:24.000 So Carl Sagan actually suggested that we're maybe a.7 or possibly now a.8.

01:58:32.000 And many of these astronomers and astrophysicists are suggesting that this transitionary period...

01:58:40.000 From a type 0 to a type 1 is the most difficult and most dangerous one because it does involve the splitting of the atom.

01:58:50.000 And monkeys, all together.

01:58:53.000 Yes.

01:58:54.000 Splitting the atom and monkeys.

01:58:56.000 You know, so, I mean, this is all fascinating stuff.

01:59:01.000 Brian's asleep.

01:59:04.000 You know, one thing I was going to ask you about before when you said they found those little things and they rebuilt them and put propellers on them and they were like a plane.

01:59:12.000 I saw the pictures of those, but it also looks like they kind of modified the wings a little bit to make it actually fly.

01:59:20.000 Couldn't that have been just easily like a statue of a bird or something like that?

01:59:24.000 Why is it all...

01:59:25.000 Well, just they put rudders.

01:59:26.000 It doesn't look like they modified the wings.

01:59:28.000 I mean, yeah, the wings on the actual statue is just like a flat...

01:59:32.000 That has to be curved in order for it to get flight, you know?

01:59:36.000 Yeah, but the thing is that it actually, in the same collection of totems or funeral objects that have been found, they did find carvings or creations of birds.

01:59:52.000 And they look...

01:59:53.000 Totally different.

01:59:54.000 Yes, and fish, and crocodiles, and frogs. 0.83

01:59:57.000 And what he was talking about earlier, too, about the wings being on the bottom, and the fuselage, and all that shit is very bird-like. 0.99

02:00:02.000 The rudder on the top, there's no animal in history that has that fucking thing. 0.99

02:00:06.000 Right. 0.97

02:00:07.000 Let me see some more of those pictures you brought in, man, because you brought in some badass structures. 0.77

02:00:10.000 Absolutely.

02:00:11.000 And this is your own collection.

02:00:14.000 Yeah, this is stuff that I took all around the world.

02:00:18.000 Now, for example, you know, because I was saying earlier that obviously our ancestors did know how to cut stone and move objects and move stone blocks and things like that, so there's absolutely no question about that.

02:00:30.000 I don't know how to do this.

02:00:53.000 So if you look, for example, at this structure right here, obviously it's a type of a stone quarry where blocks were cut out.

02:01:05.000 So, you know, there's no question that stone blocks were actually cut out of these particular sections right there.

02:01:17.000 However, if you, and this here is on the back entrance in Peru, in an area called Ollantaytambo, and what you have here is two blocks that were cut out of the side of the mountain.

02:01:35.000 One at the very top, where if you look closely at this particular photograph, the top one, the top block, or the top slab, was released by, you know, having three cuts on the left, on the right, on the bottom, and then one blade that went down on the back.

02:01:52.000 But I want you to pay attention to the bottom square of this particular slab that was cut out, where you can see the four sides have been cut out, and then the back.

02:02:05.000 But there is no access point to this particular, to the back, because if you look closely, the bridge that connects, or that is between the top part, or the top slab that was cut out, and the bottom one, There is no access point.

02:02:23.000 It's a solid piece.

02:02:25.000 Okay, I see what you're saying.

02:02:27.000 Right.

02:02:27.000 So what you're saying is the top one, you could slide behind it and cut it out because you could get at the top of it.

02:02:34.000 Yes.

02:02:34.000 With this one, there's like a bridge.

02:02:36.000 There's no way to get behind it and cut it out.

02:02:39.000 And as if somebody wanted to have a good time, the actual block that fit into the bottom...

02:02:46.000 Slot is sitting right next to it.

02:02:49.000 Yeah, I was going to say, maybe they just destroyed it.

02:02:51.000 No.

02:02:52.000 No, no, no, no, you can see it.

02:02:53.000 And here it is.

02:02:54.000 It's cut out.

02:02:54.000 Check it out.

02:02:55.000 So, and that piece right there, that block, has not a single millimeter of loss of material.

02:03:01.000 So it's not like they carved around it or something.

02:03:05.000 I mean, this is a physical impossibility.

02:03:07.000 And the only way that somebody...

02:03:11.000 You know, gave an idea how this could have been possible is if you have a piece of...

02:03:20.000 This is...

02:03:20.000 I really wish we had photos of this that we could show people.

02:03:23.000 I mean, this is...

02:03:24.000 What can they look up?

02:03:26.000 What can they look up?

02:03:27.000 Because this is really fascinating.

02:03:28.000 What is the name of this stone?

02:03:30.000 What can they look up online if they want to Google this?

02:03:32.000 Yeah, bro, how many people are looking at this?

02:03:34.000 A fraction.

02:03:35.000 You know what, I can send you the pictures.

02:03:38.000 What should they look for if they can find this online?

02:03:41.000 This is Ollantaytambo.

02:03:43.000 O-L-L-A-N-T-A-Y-T-A-M-B-O. Ollantaytambo in Peru. 0.99

02:03:52.000 And it's in the back quarry of that archaeological site. 0.98

02:03:58.000 It's fucking incredible. 0.98

02:04:00.000 Now, I got a question. 1.00

02:04:02.000 What the fuck is up with Peru, man? 1.00

02:04:03.000 There's so much crazy shit in Peru. 1.00

02:04:05.000 The Nazca Lines, Machu Picchu, those crazy people with the skulls, where they deformed their skulls to make themselves look like fucking the Coneheads. 1.00

02:04:14.000 What's that about? 0.97

02:04:15.000 The elongated craniums or the Coneheads is definitely incredible.

02:04:20.000 Is it all the same era?

02:04:22.000 Is it all combined?

02:04:23.000 Yes and no.

02:04:24.000 I mean, look, one thing that's really great in my opinion is that archaeologists agree that Peru has the culture, the ancient culture of Peru are the Incas.

02:04:39.000 And what's fascinating is the fact that today the archaeologists agree that a pre-Inca civilization did in fact exist.

02:04:49.000 But not a single archaeologist agrees who the hell those pre-Inca people were.

02:04:58.000 So, this is where, you know, your previous idea and theory definitely comes into place, or fits, that there was a type of highly advanced civilization back in the past that nobody knows even what date, and some have suggested 10-15,000 years ago.

02:05:16.000 That that civilization might have been wiped out.

02:05:20.000 Because Pumapunku, for example, is such a region or a site that was 100% built by a pre-Incan civilization.

02:05:32.000 And still today, archaeologists are fighting over who these people were.

02:05:36.000 We had a buddy on the other day, Tom Segura, who had been to Machu Picchu several times.

02:05:40.000 And I was saying that I had read something.

02:05:42.000 I believe it was Graham Hancock's speculation about Machu Picchu.

02:05:45.000 That at one point in time it was at the site of water.

02:05:48.000 Isn't that true?

02:05:49.000 Pumapunku.

02:05:50.000 Pumapunku.

02:05:50.000 Was that what it was?

02:05:51.000 It wasn't Machu Picchu?

02:05:52.000 In fact, Pumapunku, it's translated...

02:05:54.000 But it's miles away from water right now, right?

02:05:56.000 Yes, yes.

02:05:57.000 It's right next to Lake Titicaca, which is the highest navigable lake in the world at 12,500 feet.

02:06:06.000 And still today, the train tracks that drive or that go through the Bolivian highlands and the Peruvian highlands are filled with mussels and with fish bones that are thousands and thousands of years old, proving that that area used to be under seawater.

02:06:29.000 We're not talking fresh water.

02:06:32.000 We're talking seawater.

02:06:34.000 So Pumapunku was built as an ocean port?

02:06:38.000 Yes.

02:06:40.000 And that is even something that mainstream archaeologists have proposed as well.

02:06:44.000 And how old is it supposed to be then?

02:06:46.000 Well, that would mean it goes back to the last ice age. 0.99

02:06:50.000 Goddamn! 0.98

02:06:51.000 So we're at 14,000 years ago. 0.99

02:06:53.000 So all these Nazca lines and the top of the Nazca lines, isn't there clear evidence that that area has been excavated by machines?

02:07:04.000 I mean, there are entire...

02:07:05.000 The entire mountaintops at Nazca are missing, have been sheared off as if with a cheese knife or a butter knife.

02:07:11.000 But how do they know that it was higher?

02:07:12.000 I mean, what is the proof?

02:07:13.000 Well, because you have mountain ranges right next door, not even 100 yards away or 200 yards away.

02:07:20.000 That are a certain height.

02:07:21.000 Of a certain height, and it's flat.

02:07:24.000 And the other ones are completely like tabletops.

02:07:28.000 Are they level?

02:07:29.000 Level, 100% perfection.

02:07:31.000 Really?

02:07:31.000 You can play pool on it?

02:07:32.000 Absolutely.

02:07:33.000 Really?

02:07:34.000 I think we should go play some Naskapool right now.

02:07:37.000 What is the mainstream opinion of what those lines are for?

02:07:41.000 It's very clear.

02:07:42.000 You can only see them from the sky. 0.98

02:07:44.000 If they are just artwork, they're artwork for fucking who? 0.97

02:07:48.000 Exactly. 0.98

02:07:49.000 How big are they?

02:07:50.000 They are...

02:07:51.000 There is...

02:07:51.000 NASCA is fascinating because you have, I mean, world-famous geoglyphs, and mainly people see the images of the spider and the monkey.

02:08:03.000 The astronaut.

02:08:04.000 The astronaut.

02:08:05.000 By the way, the astronaut who looks like E.T. with the big eyes, one hand is pointing to the sky, the other hand is pointing to Earth.

02:08:13.000 To his dick. 1.00

02:08:14.000 Suck my dick. 1.00

02:08:15.000 That's where it is. 1.00

02:08:16.000 Go to space. 1.00

02:08:17.000 Earth's dick. 0.99

02:08:18.000 And so, you know, but at the same time, you have those lines that... 0.99

02:08:24.000 That look like landing strips.

02:08:25.000 That look like landing strips.

02:08:27.000 And by the way, we never suggested that they actually were landing strips, because the argument is completely ridiculous, because what?

02:08:34.000 Exeterrestrials travel millions and billions of light years, and then before they can land is to get to build airstrips.

02:08:41.000 I mean, it makes no sense. 0.98

02:08:42.000 So for the debunkers to even say that, I mean, they're nuts.

02:08:46.000 What do you think those lines are then?

02:08:47.000 Those long, straight lines?

02:08:49.000 They look like, you know, it looks like an airport.

02:08:52.000 And there's absolutely no doubt in that, that it looks like an airport.

02:08:57.000 So, for example, look, right now we've got a rover on Mars that's, you know, driving around and it's leaving behind these tracks.

02:09:06.000 So we're suggesting that at some point a long time ago, some type of an unmanned or possibly even manned craft landed at NASCA to conduct the core drills and core samples of the ground to determine what's in that area.

02:09:22.000 Because still today, NASCA... There's a bunch of drilled holes, right?

02:09:25.000 Yes.

02:09:26.000 And there's still mining going on today at NASCA because it's very abundant in very precious raw materials.

02:09:36.000 On Earth.

02:09:37.000 So if you want to know about planet Earth, you can go to NASCA, and by conducting a few days of research, it's like the cliff notes of planet Earth, essentially.

02:09:47.000 And so imagine if you had a bunch of natives there, and all of a sudden this thing lands that conducts a bunch of research.

02:09:54.000 They're, of course, afraid.

02:09:55.000 They run away.

02:09:56.000 And then this craft leaves again, and it has left behind some tracks in the sand or on the ground.

02:10:04.000 And then they come back out and they look at this stuff and they're like, oh my god, what just happened here?

02:10:08.000 I think we were just visited by God.

02:10:11.000 Doesn't it make more sense?

02:10:12.000 And then they recreate it.

02:10:13.000 These funerary objects that are 1,500 years old that look like planes that are from Central and South America, doesn't it make more sense that they had planes?

02:10:21.000 That someone had planes back then?

02:10:23.000 Well, yes, of course.

02:10:24.000 I mean, that is the suggestion.

02:10:25.000 Yeah, there must be renways and that's what this whole Nazca Line thing, maybe it really is an airport.

02:10:34.000 Look, I'm always one to say, never say never.

02:10:38.000 So, is it possible?

02:10:40.000 It's aliens.

02:10:40.000 I don't care.

02:10:41.000 Exactly.

02:10:42.000 Flesh and blood ones at that.

02:10:44.000 No, but the thing is that, you know, the bottom line is that at NASCA, what's really odd is that we have done some research there where we found, you know, higher levels of arsenic in areas where there shouldn't be any arsenic.

02:10:57.000 There are very bizarre magnetic fields there where you can put down your compass and it keeps on spinning and things like that at the beginning and at the end of these runway looking like strips.

02:11:09.000 And so something definitely happened there because the whole idea that it was very easy to build these things is nonsense because people have suggested, oh, all you have to do is you have to scratch off the surface of the...

02:11:23.000 Of the ground, and then you expose the lighter or the darker underground with the pebbles and things like that.

02:11:31.000 We've tried that, and people have tried it.

02:11:33.000 It doesn't work that way.

02:11:34.000 There's just so many things in Peru.

02:11:35.000 It's not just that.

02:11:37.000 Oh, no.

02:11:37.000 You know, with Machu Picchu and the skulls, those people that were deforming their heads.

02:11:41.000 What is the explanation for that?

02:11:43.000 They made their heads like alien heads.

02:11:45.000 Yeah.

02:11:45.000 They flattened them out and stretched them out and...

02:11:47.000 Well, and here's the crazy thing, that archaeology even has an answer to this, and they say that the reason why, and this was achieved by binding the infant's head upon birth with wooden boards, so that the brains or the brain chamber would grow into this elongated fashion.

02:12:09.000 And the archaeologists are saying, well, yes, of course, they did this because they were mimicking or worshipping their gods.

02:12:17.000 And then they pat each other on the shoulder, and then they go home and say, case solved, mystery done, we're out of here, this is it.

02:12:25.000 And that is exactly where I say, no, the mystery is not solved, because the question is, okay, you just said...

02:12:34.000 That this was done in order to worship the gods.

02:12:37.000 Well, my question is, who were these gods?

02:12:40.000 That is the question that the archaeologists are not answering.

02:12:43.000 Are there any images that they have of these gods?

02:12:47.000 Well, for example, all over ancient Egypt, which by the way, the skull deformation phenomenon also happened in ancient Egypt.

02:12:56.000 It happened in Germany.

02:12:57.000 It happened in Russia.

02:12:58.000 All around the world do we have these elongated skulls that are obviously human in origin, but they all have all these elongated heads.

02:13:07.000 And then there are some skulls that we don't know if they're really human in origin.

02:13:13.000 You mean like that star child thing?

02:13:15.000 What do you think about that? 0.99

02:13:15.000 Is that a horseshit? 0.99

02:13:16.000 That, for example, it's definitely something worth looking into. 0.97

02:13:20.000 Absolutely.

02:13:20.000 There's no question in my mind.

02:13:22.000 But to return to the elongated...

02:13:24.000 You don't know about Starchild?

02:13:25.000 No, what is that?

02:13:26.000 Starchild's a skull that they found that's really freaky looking. 0.97

02:13:30.000 They've determined that it's human, but it might be human plus something else like the mitochondrial DNA, whatever the fuck it was.

02:13:36.000 I think it's determined that the mother was human, but they don't know what the father was. 0.74

02:13:40.000 Yeah.

02:13:40.000 This is just reading it online.

02:13:42.000 It could easily just be some horrible birth defect.

02:13:45.000 Yeah, no, it's to be debated, but it's definitely a fascinating story that, you know, merits further investigation.

02:13:52.000 What places, out of all these sites, what places haven't you been to?

02:13:57.000 Have you been to most of them?

02:13:58.000 80% of them?

02:13:59.000 90% of them?

02:14:00.000 Like...

02:14:01.000 No, I mean, there's definitely...

02:14:03.000 I've been about to 75% of the stuff because...

02:14:06.000 That's amazing.

02:14:07.000 Yeah, you know, I mean, it's...

02:14:08.000 See, that's the one thing...

02:14:09.000 What's the most mind-blowing?

02:14:10.000 Puma Punku.

02:14:11.000 I mean, look, for sheer size, it's definitely the Great Pyramid on the Giza Plateau.

02:14:17.000 Have you been?

02:14:18.000 No.

02:14:18.000 You must go.

02:14:19.000 Eddie's been.

02:14:20.000 You have.

02:14:20.000 So you know.

02:14:22.000 I've only been to Chichen Itza.

02:14:23.000 That's the only crazy place I've been.

02:14:24.000 That's also a crazy thing with the shadow play with Quetzalcoatl and all this.

02:14:28.000 I mean, you know that when you stand in front of that pyramid, you're breathless.

02:14:33.000 You can't breathe.

02:14:34.000 They're so incredibly massive.

02:14:36.000 You know what's crazy about them is that you never...

02:14:38.000 You never see, in the pyramids, in the pictures that you see, you never see that there's a ghetto, an Egyptian ghetto, all around it.

02:14:45.000 You know what I mean?

02:14:46.000 There's one side of the pyramid where it's all open desert, and then right there, you're in a ghetto. 0.77

02:14:51.000 And the cool thing is when you drive around this ghetto, you're in garbage.

02:14:55.000 But the pyramid is always visible wherever you go.

02:14:58.000 So you've got this ancient monument and then you...

02:15:00.000 Check cashing place.

02:15:03.000 Yes, exactly.

02:15:04.000 Gang bangers.

02:15:05.000 Egyptian drive-bys. 0.90

02:15:07.000 Cheap goat heads. 0.91

02:15:08.000 You know what's cool about your job?

02:15:10.000 Your job is so cool that if there was ever a chick that was like a little bit out of your league, you could always say, you know, I'm going to Machu Picchu next week and I want you to go with me.

02:15:19.000 Right?

02:15:19.000 And what girl wouldn't go?

02:15:20.000 We were saying that about Tom Segura. 1.00

02:15:23.000 If I was a chick, I'd be willing to fuck him. 1.00

02:15:24.000 He's telling me so much about Machu Picchu. 1.00

02:15:26.000 He's a traveled man.

02:15:28.000 You know what I mean?

02:15:29.000 That's always a deal closer right there.

02:15:31.000 Yeah, you have good genetics.

02:15:32.000 A traveled man?

02:15:34.000 A man with that kind of experience?

02:15:35.000 I don't know. 0.81

02:15:35.000 He's kind of a nerd. 0.81

02:15:37.000 He's sort of a nerd, but damn. 1.00

02:15:39.000 He's got crazy hair. 1.00

02:15:40.000 I love his jewelry.

02:15:41.000 I do want to go to Easter Island.

02:15:43.000 The Puma thing.

02:15:44.000 It's weird how it's like the Nazi symbol built into it.

02:15:46.000 That one part.

02:15:47.000 I bet he has chicks laying out. 1.00

02:15:49.000 You probably have chicks laying out on Easter Island.

02:15:52.000 You know what I mean?

02:15:53.000 In a thong.

02:15:54.000 In Pumapuku, there's a swastika?

02:15:57.000 There are swastikas all around the world.

02:16:00.000 In fact, the swastika has its origin in ancient India.

02:16:06.000 Yeah, Hindu. 0.98

02:16:07.000 Sign of good fortune.

02:16:08.000 Absolutely. 0.97

02:16:09.000 Well, they fucked that up.

02:16:11.000 Try telling people that now. 0.60

02:16:13.000 First of all, they reversed the direction, but whatever.

02:16:17.000 But the bottom line is they ruined that and the little mustache.

02:16:21.000 Michael Jordan tried to bring back that little mustache. 1.00

02:16:23.000 That's the kind of ego that motherfucker has. 0.99

02:16:25.000 Maybe they reversed it to say sign of death instead of sign of good fortune, right? 1.00

02:16:29.000 Sign of bad fortune.

02:16:31.000 They just ganked it.

02:16:32.000 They just stole it.

02:16:33.000 No, and it was also used in ancient Greece.

02:16:36.000 I mean, it's a symbolism.

02:16:37.000 But they reversed it, though.

02:16:37.000 It's not the same.

02:16:38.000 They did reverse it.

02:16:39.000 Yes, yes.

02:16:39.000 Absolutely.

02:16:41.000 Symbolism is fascinating, which is one of the most fascinating things to me about the Egyptian language, that it was all symbols.

02:16:46.000 But instead of, you know, with us, with letters, and each letter having a sound, what they have is like these symbols.

02:16:52.000 Apparently, just absorbing the language, just interpreting it.

02:16:55.000 It just has a completely different experience in the human mind.

02:16:59.000 You know, all these symbols.

02:17:00.000 You know, we have symbols that we register.

02:17:03.000 Like, this is a McDonald's symbol.

02:17:04.000 This is Sitco.

02:17:06.000 But their language consisted of these things, and that is a completely different experience than reading our language.

02:17:13.000 And the ancient Incas had nuts.

02:17:16.000 They had string with nuts.

02:17:17.000 That was their language.

02:17:18.000 That was their written language.

02:17:20.000 I wonder why they got jacked by the Spanish. 1.00

02:17:23.000 The Spanish came over and go, yo, yo, yo, should we kill these people? 1.00

02:17:26.000 Dude, they're writing strings. 1.00

02:17:28.000 Shut up, they're giving us their gold. 0.99

02:17:29.000 Let's get the gold first. 1.00

02:17:31.000 Put that motherfucker on the ship. 1.00

02:17:33.000 That is another fascinating thing. 1.00

02:17:33.000 Because they were cool for a while. 1.00

02:17:35.000 For a while. 1.00

02:17:36.000 Once the gold ran out, they started fucking slicing. 0.99

02:17:38.000 Well, they started realizing that they weren't gods anymore, too. 0.99

02:17:41.000 They thought people on horses were gods.

02:17:44.000 Well, there's actually a little bit more to that story, and that is...

02:17:47.000 No, get out.

02:17:49.000 Yeah, no, that was it.

02:17:51.000 That was the whole story.

02:17:52.000 The end.

02:17:53.000 Thread, slash, thread.

02:17:54.000 No, that, you know, many ancient cultures based their whole calendar on the return of the gods, and it just so happened that, you know, both Cortez and Pizarro happened to arrive on those shores in the same year... 0.95

02:18:09.000 They fucking lucked out! 0.95

02:18:11.000 Right! 0.99

02:18:11.000 It is, it absolutely is, it was complete chance. 0.99

02:18:16.000 And doesn't, isn't the bearded, the serpent, the plume serpent, doesn't that same thing mean a bearded man?

02:18:23.000 Isn't it like the translation of Quetzalcoatl and Kukulakan is like so similar to a man with a beard?

02:18:32.000 And that, you know, this is one of the reasons why the Aztecs were so baffled by these people, because they were men with beards.

02:18:38.000 Yeah, yeah, yes, I mean, that's...

02:18:40.000 Is that right?

02:18:41.000 Yeah, that's part of it, but, you know, to me, that's, you know, it's a bit, kind of, it's very elitist in a certain way, because...

02:18:51.000 Even though those theories have been proposed, that all of a sudden this red-headed guy appeared with a red beard and things like that, and that's why he was worshipped.

02:19:02.000 I mean, I don't think that people or that those cultures back then were so shallow.

02:19:07.000 I think it has more to do that this Quetzalcoatl or Kukulkan character If he was a red-headed guy, that he flew around in this flying or plumed or winged serpent.

02:19:20.000 And that this winged serpent, we all know that snakes do not fly.

02:19:25.000 When you eat enough mushrooms, they do, bro.

02:19:27.000 I know.

02:19:28.000 They talk to you, too.

02:19:29.000 But see, here's the thing, that you can't attribute everything...

02:19:33.000 That a person sees...

02:19:35.000 To mushrooms?

02:19:36.000 To mushrooms because...

02:19:37.000 If you've done enough mushrooms, you can.

02:19:39.000 Yes.

02:19:40.000 No, look, I have to say something about...

02:19:42.000 Yes, no, but the thing is that our collective...

02:19:44.000 You can't after a while.

02:19:45.000 Our collective consciousness today is way bigger than the collective consciousness back in the day.

02:19:50.000 How do we know?

02:19:51.000 The thing is that today, if we see a spaceship or a UFO, we can immediately recognize it as a spaceship or a UFO. Back in the day, if you didn't know what that was,

02:20:09.000 It doesn't matter how many mushrooms you took, you still had to describe it with something that was a spark of inspiration or a spark of something that motivated or inspired all these stories.

02:20:22.000 But how do we not know what these stories are?

02:20:26.000 It's people's memory of someone else who had seen people who were flying around.

02:20:32.000 And it was thousands and thousands of years ago.

02:20:35.000 So over time, these stories get more and more diluted.

02:20:39.000 But in your mind, it all goes back to aliens.

02:20:41.000 And they absolutely did.

02:20:43.000 They did get diluted.

02:20:44.000 That's the whole idea.

02:20:47.000 That's why we have aliens. 1.00

02:20:48.000 You know, Christianity today, and Islam, and all those different things.

02:20:53.000 You believe the Zacharias Hitchin depiction of humanity, that we are engineered from lower primates by some aliens to mine for gold?

02:21:04.000 I subscribe to the first part of that statement, yes, that we came about through a direct target mutation of our genes, and that will be the ultimate proof, by the way, the ultimate proof of ET visitation.

02:21:19.000 It won't be in a crashed spaceship or finding a ray gun or something silly like that, but it'll be found in our own genes.

02:21:28.000 That something happened in the past that did not come by chance.

02:21:31.000 But haven't they already mapped out the human genome?

02:21:33.000 Isn't that how they understand that white people are mostly...

02:21:38.000 You know, related to Neanderthals, and, you know, I mean, haven't they figured out all these things?

02:21:42.000 Yes, of course.

02:21:43.000 I mean, there's definitely many, many conclusions have been drawn, but there's still...

02:21:48.000 Is there mystery in the human genome still?

02:21:50.000 Absolutely.

02:21:51.000 For example, that, you know, 95% of our human genome, of our DNA makeup, allegedly, is junk. 0.93

02:21:58.000 I completely disagree with that. 0.96

02:22:00.000 Just because we can't decipher those 95% yet doesn't mean that that 95% truly is garbage.

02:22:11.000 Do you think that in our lifetime things are ever going to change?

02:22:15.000 Quickly, though.

02:22:16.000 And no, we were not to create our slaves.

02:22:19.000 No.

02:22:19.000 Absolutely not.

02:22:20.000 You don't believe that.

02:22:21.000 That's, again, doom and gloom nonsense. 0.99

02:22:23.000 So they came and they just sort of fucked with people and created... 0.98

02:22:27.000 Just like what we will do 5,000 years from now on another planet, you know, if we want to experiment. 0.97

02:22:33.000 And I think that, you know, good in the end always outweighs the bad.

02:22:38.000 Tell that to the Indians. 1.00

02:22:40.000 They got jacked.

02:22:41.000 Well, you know, but seriously, that, you know, you can definitely make an argument that if we go out there, that it won't be to destroy others, but, you know, in a benevolent way.

02:22:54.000 In planet Earth, every single intelligent animal that's less intelligent than us, we've enslaved. 0.97

02:22:59.000 We've fucked with dolphins, orcas, monkeys, chimps. 1.00

02:23:03.000 Everything that we can fuck, we fuck. 1.00

02:23:05.000 Everything that we can eat, we eat. 0.99

02:23:06.000 And that is the evidence of every other intelligent life, how it treats that Other intelligent life that it can manipulate, like dolphins killing other dolphins, and orcas killing dolphins, orcas killing whales.

02:23:19.000 But I also think that that is why, that is the reason why we have not yet made official contact with any type of...

02:23:26.000 So we're not ready?

02:23:27.000 We're not ready. 1.00

02:23:28.000 We fuck too many animals. 1.00

02:23:30.000 I wonder what are the top five animals that we fuck. 1.00

02:23:35.000 I would say sheep number one. 1.00

02:23:36.000 Sheep's got to be one. 0.99

02:23:37.000 Donkeys. 0.91

02:23:38.000 That Colombian donkey show you ever watch that? 1.00

02:23:40.000 Chicken. 1.00

02:23:42.000 A lot of chickens we fuck. 1.00

02:23:43.000 Dogs. 1.00

02:23:43.000 People fuck their dogs. 1.00

02:23:45.000 For sure. 1.00

02:23:46.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00

02:23:46.000 And then that Dave Chappelle bit about trying to fuck a monkey. 1.00

02:23:49.000 Can't fuck a monkey. 1.00

02:23:50.000 Can't fuck a monkey. 1.00

02:23:51.000 Monkey will bite your dick off. 1.00

02:23:52.000 You know how strong a monkey is. 1.00

02:23:54.000 It'll throw you across the room. 1.00

02:23:56.000 Snap your dick off like a piece of celery and throw it in the tall grass. 1.00

02:23:59.000 Never to be seen again. 1.00

02:24:01.000 You know how strong a monkey is? 0.99

02:24:05.000 So in closing, this has been a crazy fucking conversation. 0.99

02:24:07.000 Dude, we got the top five right there. 0.99

02:24:09.000 It took us 20 fucking seconds. 0.96

02:24:11.000 Yeah, it's not hard at all. 0.99

02:24:12.000 Jellyfish. 0.77

02:24:13.000 Maybe someone really crazy. 0.90

02:24:15.000 Seeing enemies. 1.00

02:24:17.000 Someone fucking seeing enemies. 1.00

02:24:19.000 Frogs like a pocket flashlight. 1.00

02:24:20.000 Yeah, for chimps, right? 1.00

02:24:22.000 Chimps fuck frogs. 1.00

02:24:23.000 I bet in the zoo they give them a little tranquilizer. 1.00

02:24:25.000 I bet dudes would fuck lions and tigers. 1.00

02:24:26.000 Wow, just to get off? 1.00

02:24:28.000 It's a little tranquilizer.

02:24:29.000 Did you see that guy, the congressman that got busted?

02:24:30.000 He's a furry. 1.00

02:24:31.000 Apparently he's been doing a lot of weird shit. 1.00

02:24:33.000 He's kind of crazy. 1.00

02:24:34.000 In the tiger costume? 0.97

02:24:35.000 Woo, yeah.

02:24:36.000 Congressman Woo.

02:24:37.000 His staff's trying to get him to resign.

02:24:38.000 I don't know if he's resigned yet.

02:24:40.000 It's inevitable. 1.00

02:24:41.000 But apparently he's out of his fucking mind. 1.00

02:24:44.000 Dresses up like a tiger. 1.00

02:24:48.000 It's like one of those kids' costumes.

02:24:50.000 It's not even a cool-cut tiger costume.

02:24:52.000 Well, that's what the furries wear, you know?

02:24:54.000 We've talked about furries in the podcast before because I was in Pittsburgh and they had a furry convention at the same time that the UFC was in Pittsburgh.

02:25:01.000 and all these furries were wandering the streets, and the people in the hotel set me hip to furries because they go to Pittsburgh every year. 0.81

02:25:07.000 So the guys that are working in the hotel tell you the nutty stories of these people, shitting in the litter boxes.

02:25:13.000 And some of the furry community actually got upset with me that I was spreading misinformation. 0.96

02:25:16.000 Well, I say no.

02:25:18.000 You may not, if you're a furry, you may not be into the dirty aspect of the furry.

02:25:21.000 But there's a broad spectrum of furry behavior, folks. 0.98

02:25:24.000 And just because you're not into taking shits in litter boxes doesn't mean that the man who worked at the Westin didn't tell me that they called down and asked to put a large litter box in the fucking lobby of the Westin because the furries had every room in the Westin, so they wanted a litter box. 0.98

02:25:40.000 One litter box for everyone. 0.99

02:25:42.000 Yeah, the guy who, I asked the guy who was delivering the food, and you know, the room service guy, he said that they ask for bowls, like to eat on the ground, like to eat like dog bowls, like big bowls, they want all their food in bowls, and then they go over there, the bowls are on the ground, like bowls of milk, they ask for a large bowl of milk, and they eat it like an animal.

02:26:00.000 This dude's a congressman. 0.99

02:26:02.000 We're so up the ass of politicians that there's no one left but crazy people. 1.00

02:26:06.000 There's no one left but Michelle Bachmanns. 1.00

02:26:08.000 You gotta be completely out to fucking lunch to want to be the president of this country. 1.00

02:26:12.000 It's nuts. 1.00

02:26:14.000 And coming from the alien guy, that's saying a lot.

02:26:18.000 Thursday, Ancient Aliens, the premiere of Season 3. Good luck with that, sir.

02:26:24.000 Thank you very much for coming on the podcast.

02:26:26.000 And if you want to follow Giorgio on Twitter, it's Tsoukalos.

02:26:30.000 T-S-O-U-K-A-L-A-O-S. L-O-S. O-S. I'll say it again. 1.00

02:26:38.000 T-S-O-U-K-A-L-O-S. Nice.

02:26:47.000 Got it.

02:26:47.000 And Eddie?

02:26:48.000 I'm going to be in El Paso, 10th Planet El Paso this Saturday.

02:26:52.000 Go to 10planetjj.com.

02:26:53.000 You had to reschedule, right?

02:26:54.000 You got sick.

02:26:55.000 Yeah, I got sick last weekend.

02:26:56.000 So I rescheduled it for this Saturday.

02:26:57.000 Go to 10planetjj.com.

02:27:00.000 And get on the Nibiru forum.

02:27:02.000 That's the name of my forum.

02:27:03.000 Tenth Planet Jiu Jitsu.

02:27:04.000 Tenth Planet Jiu Jitsu.

02:27:05.000 I love it.

02:27:05.000 That's great, man.

02:27:06.000 We named it when we were high talking about Zacharias Hitchens.

02:27:10.000 Sweet! 0.95

02:27:10.000 I wanted to call my school Nibiru Jiu Jitsu, and then it sounded too weird, and Joe goes, dude, just call it Tenth Planet Jiu Jitsu. 0.95

02:27:17.000 I'm like, ah, that sounds stupid! 0.94

02:27:19.000 Two minutes later, I thought... 0.99

02:27:21.000 Damn, 10th Night Jiu-Jitsu does sound way better than Nibiru Jiu-Jitsu. 0.98

02:27:25.000 History. 0.98

02:27:26.000 I named my forum, the Nibiru Forum.

02:27:29.000 That's where all the information is. 0.96

02:27:30.000 Jiu-Jitsu history, bitches. 1.00

02:27:31.000 I love it. 0.99

02:27:32.000 That's awesome.

02:27:33.000 August 13th, I will be in Milwaukee with Mad Flavor, a.k.a.

02:27:38.000 Joey Diaz, at the Pabst Theater.

02:27:40.000 Tickets are still available.

02:27:41.000 They are going fast, though.

02:27:43.000 And then September 23rd at the Paramount in Denver.

02:27:46.000 Holla at your boy. 0.81

02:27:48.000 And that is, uh, last time I checked, it was half sold out already.

02:27:51.000 And, um, it's only been on sale for a couple days.

02:27:54.000 Denver, showing mad love.

02:27:55.000 Can't wait to get back to Colorado before the end of the Earth, before the civilization corrodes, and that's where I'll live.

02:28:03.000 Eternally.

02:28:04.000 Because I'm going to travel through space, speed of light, come back 13,000 years. 0.98

02:28:07.000 That's a lot of shit that happened in this podcast, and not a lot of it was good. 0.98

02:28:10.000 A lot of it was strange. 0.99

02:28:12.000 Brian fell asleep at least five times.

02:28:15.000 I noticed it.

02:28:16.000 Eddie Bravo.

02:28:16.000 I'm just drunk off.

02:28:18.000 Any questions before we leave for this? 0.98

02:28:21.000 Man, you were fucking chomping at the bit to get in here on this podcast. 0.98

02:28:24.000 No, I was just... 0.99

02:28:26.000 I wanted to just sit and listen to him talk. 1.00

02:28:28.000 We got into dirty shit at the end. 0.99

02:28:31.000 You feel like you corrupted enough? 1.00

02:28:33.000 Yeah, we did enough damage.

02:28:35.000 Shazam.

02:28:35.000 Beautiful.

02:28:36.000 Alright, thank you everybody.

02:28:37.000 Thanks for tuning in.

02:28:38.000 That's it for this week.

02:28:39.000 We'll be back next week.

02:28:40.000 We're trying to rope it together with Jay Moore.

02:28:42.000 He was busy this week.

02:28:43.000 And next week, probably Joe Diaz and Duncan Trussell.

02:28:47.000 Holla! 1.00

02:28:48.000 We'll see you soon.

02:28:48.000 Big kisses.

02:28:51.000 And thank you to the Fleshlight.

02:28:52.000 If you go to JoeRogan.net and click on the link for the Fleshlight and enter in the code name ROGAN, you will get 15% off the number one sex toy for men, and then you can shoot loads in it and take naps, and you will feel so good, and it is a discount.

02:29:07.000 Alright, see you freaks real soon. 0.94

The Joe Rogan Experience - July 27, 2011

Joe Rogan Experience #125 - Giorgio A. Tsoukalos, Eddie Bravo

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