The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1291 - C.T. Fletcher

00:00:03.000 Boom, and we're live.

00:00:04.000 What's up, brother?

00:00:05.000 How are you?

00:00:05.000 Man, Joe Rogan, I am so happy to be here.

00:00:09.000 I'm so happy to see you. 1.00

00:00:11.000 Fuck. 1.00

00:00:11.000 You've gone through a journey. 1.00

00:00:13.000 Oh, man, since the last time I seen you.

00:00:16.000 Yesterday was one year from your heart transplant anniversary.

00:00:20.000 Exactly.

00:00:20.000 Wow.

00:00:21.000 One year, and Joe, if I told you it was easy, I'd be lying.

00:00:27.000 But, man...

00:00:28.000 It was so worth the journey and it ain't even funny.

00:00:31.000 What does it feel like right now?

00:00:32.000 Like having another person's heart in your body?

00:00:34.000 What does that feel like?

00:00:35.000 Well, a lot of times it feels like I actually did die and this is just a dream that I'm living right now.

00:00:42.000 Yep.

00:00:43.000 Wow.

00:00:44.000 I think this would be my heaven.

00:00:47.000 You look great. 0.96

00:00:48.000 You're still jacked.

00:00:49.000 No, no.

00:00:50.000 You're not losing any weight.

00:00:52.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:00:53.000 Yeah, but I mean, you're still jacked.

00:00:55.000 You still got muscles.

00:00:56.000 Uh...

00:00:58.000 You know, it's such a fall from where I was.

00:01:02.000 I really appreciate that, though, but I look at myself now and it's just a fragment of what I used to be, but I'm still here.

00:01:12.000 That's what's so important to me, man.

00:01:13.000 Well, the ridiculous thing you were doing, you're making videos of your working out, like getting ready, and after your heart operation, you have a heart transplant, and you're running in a parking lot, and you trip and fall. 0.93

00:01:27.000 I'm like, Jesus, man, slow down. 0.92

00:01:30.000 Yeah, I got a lot of that.

00:01:32.000 You just decided that you were just going to start pushing from the beginning.

00:01:36.000 Yeah.

00:01:36.000 Well, actually, my brain was ready, but my body wasn't.

00:01:42.000 Did they warn you about doing that?

00:01:44.000 Did they say it was okay?

00:01:46.000 They told me that, you know, they gave me permission to walk.

00:01:49.000 And, you know, me, I'm like, walk? 0.99

00:01:52.000 Shit, I can run. 0.99

00:01:54.000 At least my mind said I can run. 1.00

00:01:56.000 Right.

00:01:57.000 What does it feel like, though?

00:01:59.000 What is the difference between the way your heart feels now?

00:02:04.000 It's night and day.

00:02:05.000 Before I got the transplant, it had got really bad, really bad.

00:02:11.000 I had to flatline two more times before the actual transplant.

00:02:18.000 I couldn't go through another flatline.

00:02:20.000 I mean, that would have been it.

00:02:22.000 But the difference now, I mean, it feels...

00:02:25.000 When you say flatline, like your heart stopped?

00:02:27.000 Yes.

00:02:28.000 And what did they do to start it back up again?

00:02:31.000 Okay.

00:02:31.000 After I had this last heart attack, they asked me, they said, Mr. Flusher, do you want us to put in a pacemaker?

00:02:39.000 And I thought about it a lot because my brother, my older brother Walt, had a pacemaker installed before he passed away.

00:02:47.000 And his pacemaker was actually going off.

00:02:51.000 When he died.

00:02:53.000 So I'm like, man, it didn't really do any good for him.

00:02:55.000 So I was like going back and forth.

00:02:57.000 And then, you know, just something voice said, yeah, go ahead and get it.

00:03:01.000 And so I told him he had to put it in.

00:03:03.000 Pacemaker saved me.

00:03:05.000 Wow.

00:03:05.000 So it went flat.

00:03:07.000 So your heart gave up.

00:03:08.000 What does the pacemaker do exactly?

00:03:10.000 It's like a defibrillator.

00:03:12.000 They have the paddles that give you electric shock.

00:03:15.000 That's what the pacemaker does. 0.99

00:03:17.000 Just gives you a little jolt.

00:03:18.000 Yeah, it's on the inside and it's connected directly to your heart. 0.98

00:03:23.000 When that sucker flatlines, it gives you a jolt. 0.97

00:03:27.000 Wow. 0.98

00:03:27.000 Did you feel it? 0.98

00:03:30.000 No.

00:03:30.000 No?

00:03:31.000 I was dead.

00:03:33.000 When you're dead, you don't feel nothing, man.

00:03:36.000 So you had blacked out, too?

00:03:39.000 It's not a blackout or like you doze off when you're sleeping.

00:03:46.000 Death is totally different.

00:03:49.000 Totally different.

00:03:50.000 And I knew that I was dead before I died, before a flat ride.

00:03:57.000 It was just me and my wife.

00:03:59.000 At home.

00:04:00.000 And I was talking to her just like I'm talking to you.

00:04:02.000 And the next thing, all the lights went out.

00:04:06.000 It was like one of those old-fashioned TVs.

00:04:09.000 I don't know if you're old enough to remember these black and white TVs.

00:04:12.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:04:13.000 That's exactly how it was.

00:04:15.000 So a tiny pinprick of life.

00:04:18.000 Yeah.

00:04:18.000 And you know that that's it.

00:04:21.000 Wow.

00:04:22.000 You know, you absolutely know that this is it, and it's not, you know, this is irreversible, and you know that this is death, and you're not just dozing off.

00:04:36.000 Yeah, you know it.

00:04:37.000 Did you have a near-death experience?

00:04:39.000 Everything.

00:04:42.000 The only thing I had time to say was I had time to call my wife's name.

00:04:49.000 But I mean, when they say things rush, you know, everything's like, this is it, this is it.

00:04:54.000 You know, you're not going to be able to do this anymore.

00:04:56.000 You're not going to be able to do this.

00:04:56.000 This is it.

00:04:57.000 This is it.

00:04:58.000 The final finalization of everything.

00:05:02.000 Hits you.

00:05:03.000 You know this is the final thing. 0.96

00:05:07.000 This is your last moment on earth.

00:05:09.000 And you know it.

00:05:11.000 It's clear.

00:05:11.000 And I'm like, what do you do?

00:05:13.000 All I could do was say my wife's name.

00:05:15.000 And that was it.

00:05:16.000 That was it.

00:05:18.000 So the pacemaker kicks in and then you come back online?

00:05:23.000 Yeah.

00:05:24.000 And it was so... 0.96

00:05:25.000 That's a damn good description. 0.95

00:05:27.000 I mean, it was like I thought... 0.98

00:05:29.000 I felt like...

00:05:31.000 That I had been asleep for hours.

00:05:35.000 It was the best, most peaceful, restful time of my entire life.

00:05:42.000 Wow.

00:05:42.000 In just a short moment, it felt like I had been asleep, you know, for eight hours.

00:05:48.000 I was so rested, so well rested.

00:05:50.000 Wow.

00:05:51.000 And my wife told me, you know, it was just a short period of time, but it felt like I had been asleep for eight hours.

00:05:55.000 So this happened twice?

00:05:57.000 Yes.

00:05:57.000 The second time was in the hospital.

00:05:59.000 Oof.

00:06:00.000 Yep.

00:06:01.000 Wow.

00:06:02.000 So they tell you, okay, Mr. Fletcher, we have a heart for you.

00:06:07.000 Yeah.

00:06:08.000 They call me like 2.40 in the morning, I think it was.

00:06:12.000 So you have to get in there right now?

00:06:13.000 Is that how it works?

00:06:14.000 No, no.

00:06:14.000 I had hours before I had to actually be at the hospital.

00:06:18.000 I said be at the hospital, I think, like 6 or 7 that morning.

00:06:22.000 And then you're thinking, whoa, boy.

00:06:25.000 I was happy and sad when I got the call.

00:06:30.000 I was happy for myself because I didn't think I could go through another flat line, but I was sad for the donor and the donor's family.

00:06:39.000 I knew somebody had to pass away in order for me to get that heart, so I felt real bad about that.

00:06:46.000 So they put it in you.

00:06:48.000 You wake up.

00:06:50.000 What does that feel like?

00:06:54.000 It felt like being born again, a rebirth, another try, another go at life.

00:07:04.000 Wow.

00:07:05.000 Yep.

00:07:06.000 I get another start, another chance at it.

00:07:08.000 My set ain't over.

00:07:12.000 Wow.

00:07:13.000 So they have to open you up, right?

00:07:17.000 Oh, yeah.

00:07:17.000 They do that chest spreader thing?

00:07:19.000 Mm-hmm.

00:07:19.000 And what is all that like?

00:07:22.000 Yeah.

00:07:22.000 Well, of course I... You were out, of course.

00:07:25.000 But when you wake up and you look down, you're covered with stitches, right?

00:07:28.000 I mean, it must be a giant scar, right?

00:07:30.000 They are so good now, Joe, that, you know, I have a scar, but considering...

00:07:37.000 This is my second time being split open.

00:07:40.000 You know, the first time in 05 when they put a metal valve in...

00:07:45.000 I've flatlined during that operation three times on the table during the operation itself.

00:07:54.000 So, me and flatline, you know, five flatlines, I think I'm at my limit, man.

00:07:59.000 Wow.

00:08:01.000 I've seen the scars.

00:08:03.000 They had to take the pacemaker out.

00:08:05.000 They took the metal valve out of the—well, the old heart had the metal valve in it, so they took the old heart out.

00:08:11.000 They put in a new heart, and it's just unbelievable.

00:08:17.000 Because before, a shower would kill me.

00:08:19.000 If I took a shower, I'd be done for the rest of the day.

00:08:22.000 A shower?

00:08:22.000 Yeah.

00:08:23.000 A shower would kill me for the rest of the day, and I had a seat— In the shower, you know.

00:08:28.000 How would a shower kill you?

00:08:30.000 Oh man, it was that amount of physical activity.

00:08:33.000 And you know, people taking a shower for granted.

00:08:39.000 But that amount of physical activity would kill me.

00:08:42.000 I'd be wiped out.

00:08:44.000 Just for washing yourself?

00:08:45.000 Yes.

00:08:46.000 For the rest of the day, man.

00:08:47.000 So you were hanging by us, right?

00:08:49.000 Oh, yeah.

00:08:50.000 Definitely.

00:08:51.000 Definitely.

00:08:51.000 It would kill me.

00:08:54.000 And my wife was opening jars for me. 1.00

00:08:57.000 Here I am, former bench press world champion.

00:09:01.000 And I got my wife, hey, baby, could you open this jelly jar for me? 1.00

00:09:04.000 Wow.

00:09:05.000 Yeah, it's humbling.

00:09:07.000 Humbling, very big time.

00:09:08.000 Big time humbling.

00:09:09.000 How long did you have to stay in the hospital for?

00:09:11.000 We went in the hospital not very long.

00:09:15.000 I mean, we got out of, we went straight to intensive care.

00:09:19.000 They keep you there for like three days.

00:09:21.000 But I think I was probably released within two weeks total.

00:09:29.000 Wow.

00:09:29.000 Yeah.

00:09:30.000 And then are you using a walker?

00:09:32.000 Are you walking fine?

00:09:34.000 Like, what is it?

00:09:35.000 I wouldn't say I was walking fine, but I was walking.

00:09:37.000 You're just walking slowly?

00:09:39.000 Oh, big time.

00:09:41.000 Big time slowly.

00:09:43.000 Yeah, I was crawling along.

00:09:45.000 Wow.

00:09:46.000 And how long did it take for you to get to where you're at like now?

00:09:50.000 Like now, I'd have no idea that you had a heart transplant.

00:09:53.000 Really?

00:09:54.000 Well, I appreciate that, Joe.

00:09:55.000 No, when I saw you, I mean, you look very happy.

00:09:57.000 Oh, I am happy.

00:09:59.000 You look like you're glowing.

00:10:01.000 I'm extremely happy.

00:10:03.000 Just to be alive.

00:10:05.000 When you come that close to dying, I mean, every day is just a blessing, man.

00:10:13.000 If people ask me, how you doing, CT? I'm blessed, man.

00:10:15.000 I got no complaints.

00:10:17.000 Legitimately blessed.

00:10:18.000 Oh, yes.

00:10:19.000 No complaints whatsoever, man.

00:10:21.000 I seen I wanted to hug the head.

00:10:23.000 Joe, I'm so happy to see you.

00:10:25.000 I'm so happy to see you too, man.

00:10:27.000 I'm alive.

00:10:28.000 Wow.

00:10:28.000 Because last time I was on, we talked about me needing a transplant, and I needed the transplant, and now I'm back.

00:10:36.000 I had it, and The first six months were rough.

00:10:42.000 The first six months after it was...

00:10:44.000 Like how so?

00:10:46.000 The jelly jar, opening the jelly jar, just not being able to do, you know, normal things.

00:10:54.000 The first thing I tried to do was walk.

00:10:56.000 So they had me walk around, I guess, a city block, maybe a city block.

00:11:02.000 Joe, when I first tried to walk around a city block, I'd have to stop probably 12, 13 times and take a seat and get up and try to walk.

00:11:11.000 And it was killing me, man.

00:11:14.000 My wife would slow down. 1.00

00:11:18.000 She'd slow down and walk with me.

00:11:20.000 It was such a struggle.

00:11:22.000 And I'm like, you know what?

00:11:24.000 I don't give a damn how long it'd take me.

00:11:27.000 I'm going to make it, man.

00:11:28.000 I'm going to make it.

00:11:29.000 So just keep going.

00:11:31.000 And what kind of activity are you able to do now a year later?

00:11:34.000 I am lifting, again, but very lightly.

00:11:38.000 I'm able to do, you know, the machine and stuff in the gym.

00:11:41.000 I think I've been able to do that for the last two months.

00:11:45.000 So when you say lightly, is this by doctor's orders?

00:11:49.000 Oh, yeah.

00:11:50.000 I can't do anything, you know, without them approving it first.

00:11:54.000 Except they're running the parking lot.

00:11:55.000 They didn't approve that.

00:11:58.000 My mind was like, oh yeah, you can do it. 1.00

00:12:01.000 My body was like, leave me out, this motherfucker. 0.99

00:12:05.000 So, what holds you back in terms of, like, lifting weights? 1.00

00:12:09.000 Like, why do you have to go light?

00:12:10.000 My strength is just nowhere near what it used to be.

00:12:13.000 The strength is still, you know, I can tell that, you know, I have a long way to go.

00:12:18.000 But, you know, just to be able to do anything.

00:12:21.000 So, I get in there and do what I can.

00:12:23.000 That's what I tell people all the time, man.

00:12:26.000 If you can't, you know, do what you want to do, at least get in there and do what you can do.

00:12:31.000 Yeah.

00:12:31.000 It's better than doing nothing.

00:12:33.000 Yeah.

00:12:34.000 So now, do they have you on medication to make sure that the heart doesn't get rejected by your body?

00:12:41.000 Most definitely.

00:12:42.000 And people out there who've had transplants, I know they're like, oh man, yeah, I take about 21 different medications every day.

00:12:51.000 Whoa.

00:12:52.000 Yep.

00:12:53.000 21 different medications.

00:12:54.000 And what are the side effects of this stuff?

00:12:56.000 Um, they used to be worse, but now, you know, my feet are swollen pretty much every day.

00:13:05.000 Something in Medicaid kind of kicks my arthritis.

00:13:09.000 I have arthritis, too, so it kind of kicks in.

00:13:12.000 My toes are stiff, you know, pretty much every day.

00:13:15.000 But when I compare the side effects, To what could possibly happen, which is death. 0.99

00:13:22.000 Side effects ain't shit. 0.99

00:13:24.000 I'll take them. 0.99

00:13:26.000 Now, will you have to take this medication forever?

00:13:29.000 It gets less.

00:13:30.000 Less and less.

00:13:31.000 When I go back this month, back up to Palo Alto where they did the transplant, they're going to take off about four or five different medications.

00:13:40.000 So I'm a year out now, take less, and then the further you get out, the less medication.

00:13:45.000 I think it eventually will get down to two or three.

00:13:47.000 But you'll always have to take something.

00:13:49.000 Oh yeah, definitely.

00:13:50.000 And is this because your body doesn't understand why it has someone's heart in it?

00:13:55.000 For a while, in the beginning, I'm taking 21 now.

00:14:00.000 It's because, you know, to keep the chances of rejection down.

00:14:05.000 Why do bodies reject?

00:14:06.000 Do they understand that?

00:14:08.000 Yeah, it wasn't the one that you was born with.

00:14:11.000 It's a foreign heart, and I really want to talk to you about that heart, what I know about it.

00:14:17.000 It's a woman's heart, right? 0.91

00:14:19.000 Yeah, so you know already. 0.98

00:14:21.000 I thought I was going to drop a bomb on you.

00:14:23.000 No, I'm following you.

00:14:24.000 I follow everything.

00:14:25.000 Very good, Joe.

00:14:26.000 Very good.

00:14:27.000 Yeah.

00:14:28.000 But I tell you that that threw me for a loop.

00:14:32.000 Yeah.

00:14:33.000 And I was, you know, I'm always talking about how strong my faith is.

00:14:37.000 And, you know, I'm faith, faith, faith, faith, man.

00:14:42.000 A superman of faith.

00:14:45.000 And I have so much faith to nothing can't faze me.

00:14:48.000 You know, I went into the operation and Hey, I'll see you guys on the other side of this because, you know, I know I'm going to be all right.

00:14:55.000 I got so much faith that, you know, I'm going to get through this.

00:14:59.000 So I'm going to see you guys. 0.99

00:15:00.000 But when the doctor came in and told me that I had a woman's heart, that socked the shit out of my face, man. 0.83

00:15:08.000 Because I had done study, you know, I looked, you know, studied on this, the... 0.97

00:15:14.000 Survival rate of male to female, and it wasn't good.

00:15:18.000 The studies that I had read wasn't good.

00:15:20.000 When they do female to male, I'm sorry, female to male, it's not good. 1.00

00:15:25.000 And I was like, everything I had read said it's not a good thing.

00:15:28.000 The doctor comes in and says, yep, you got a woman's heart, and she wasn't that much younger than you are. 1.00

00:15:34.000 I'm like, fuck! 1.00

00:15:37.000 That, you know, that tested my faith big time. 1.00

00:15:42.000 How did she die?

00:15:43.000 I have no idea.

00:15:44.000 I have no idea.

00:15:46.000 But I have feelings.

00:15:50.000 I haven't talked to the family.

00:15:53.000 I would love to.

00:15:54.000 I don't know anything about it.

00:15:56.000 But I have these feelings.

00:15:57.000 And I really would like to know if what I'm feeling is right.

00:16:03.000 I really want to meet the family and let them know that I'm out here doing everything I can to raise donor awareness.

00:16:12.000 And that their mother or their wife or their sister or their aunt didn't die in vain.

00:16:17.000 And that I'm doing my absolute best to carry on and let people know that she was a donor and that it's so utterly important for people to donate, to give the gift of life.

00:16:29.000 What are these feelings that you have?

00:16:30.000 I have feelings that, for some reason, I can see that I feel like she was the oriental lady.

00:16:39.000 I don't know why, but I really have feelings like that.

00:16:45.000 And I feel like I can see this woman telling her husband, you know, I'll see you when you get home from work and making plans with her kids for the weekend.

00:16:54.000 And I have no idea if this is right or not.

00:16:58.000 But I just have those feelings.

00:17:00.000 Are they recurring?

00:17:01.000 Yes.

00:17:02.000 And do you remember it like a memory?

00:17:08.000 It's like I get to look into her existence, her life, and I have no idea.

00:17:19.000 I could be totally wrong.

00:17:20.000 She could be a Jamaican lady. 1.00

00:17:22.000 I have no idea if I'm in the ballpark or not.

00:17:27.000 I just have this feeling.

00:17:29.000 I just have a feeling.

00:17:30.000 Wow.

00:17:31.000 Do you have any unusual cravings or anything?

00:17:35.000 I don't think...

00:17:37.000 No, I don't think I have any...

00:17:38.000 I do talk to her.

00:17:42.000 And I feel like that, you know, when I was walking around and I'm trying to make it around that block...

00:17:49.000 I would often ask her for help to help me make it around that block.

00:17:56.000 I talk to her a lot.

00:17:58.000 Wow.

00:17:58.000 Come on, lady.

00:18:00.000 I need your help.

00:18:01.000 Do you have a name for her?

00:18:02.000 I just call her lady.

00:18:03.000 Come on, lady. 1.00

00:18:04.000 Come on, lady. 1.00

00:18:05.000 I need your help.

00:18:06.000 Wow.

00:18:07.000 Wow, that's crazy.

00:18:09.000 Superman from Compton has a lady's heart.

00:18:12.000 Now, when you say that it's not, the results aren't good for lady hearts and male bodies, did you say that to the doctor?

00:18:21.000 Yeah, I mean, the doctor, it's so funny.

00:18:25.000 I don't even know if the doctor's supposed to, because it was this one doctor, he would come in, a young guy, and he would come in every day.

00:18:31.000 How you doing, Mr. Fletcher?

00:18:33.000 And I would say, I'm blessed.

00:18:34.000 I don't care.

00:18:36.000 When I woke up, From the transplant, I consider every second after that a blessing.

00:18:42.000 It's borrowed time, man.

00:18:44.000 I wasn't supposed to be here.

00:18:45.000 So, my answer is always, I'm blessed.

00:18:48.000 How you doing?

00:18:49.000 I'm blessed.

00:18:50.000 I'm blessed.

00:18:50.000 He said, you know what?

00:18:52.000 You're going to change that.

00:18:54.000 I'm not going to know, Doc.

00:18:55.000 There's nothing you can say that's going to make me change my answer.

00:18:59.000 I'm going to always be blessed no matter what you say.

00:19:02.000 He said, you think you're doing really good, don't you?

00:19:04.000 And I went, hell yeah.

00:19:05.000 I think I'm alive.

00:19:06.000 Yeah, I think I'm doing good.

00:19:08.000 I walked around this hospital corridor.

00:19:11.000 I think I'm doing really good.

00:19:13.000 He said, you're not.

00:19:14.000 You're doing about what you're supposed to be doing.

00:19:17.000 And you have a woman's heart.

00:19:21.000 And it's too small for you.

00:19:24.000 And she was almost your age. 1.00

00:19:27.000 I go, fuck. 1.00

00:19:29.000 It's too small for you. 1.00

00:19:31.000 Yeah.

00:19:31.000 He told me that the heart was too small.

00:19:35.000 And the lady was... 1.00

00:19:37.000 I was 58 or 59, because I'd be 60 on June 8th.

00:19:44.000 So he says, too small, and...

00:19:49.000 You're not doing anything extraordinary.

00:19:53.000 You're just doing average. 0.99

00:19:56.000 And I'm like, man, for the rest of the day, I was fucked. 1.00

00:20:02.000 I was fucked. 1.00

00:20:03.000 I'm like, man, I was, you know, God, why did you do this to me? 1.00

00:20:08.000 Why did you give me a woman, sorry, and an old woman at that? 1.00

00:20:12.000 Why can't you give me an 18-year-old?

00:20:14.000 Right.

00:20:15.000 I was questioning, why did you do this to me?

00:20:20.000 Did you ask him?

00:20:21.000 Heck yeah.

00:20:21.000 What did he say?

00:20:22.000 You mean the doctor or God?

00:20:24.000 The doctor.

00:20:25.000 I didn't ask the doctor.

00:20:27.000 My doctor did come in.

00:20:28.000 And you know what?

00:20:29.000 I'm sorry.

00:20:30.000 I did ask the doctor.

00:20:32.000 I asked her.

00:20:33.000 Doc, why? 0.99

00:20:35.000 Dude, I had tears in my eyes because this was, you know, I'm like, fuck, I got another heart, but I ain't going to last long. 0.99

00:20:42.000 I'm going to be out of here. 0.99

00:20:44.000 So it was, you know, it was fucking with me. 0.99

00:20:46.000 And the doctor, I asked the doctor, I mean, why? 0.99

00:20:50.000 And she looked me in the eyeballs, and she said, Mr. Fletcher, we didn't want you to die.

00:20:56.000 It's just that simple.

00:20:57.000 We didn't want you to die.

00:20:58.000 So that was what was available?

00:21:00.000 That was what was available.

00:21:02.000 It was a healthy heart.

00:21:03.000 And I needed one bad, Joe.

00:21:06.000 Now, will that heart grow to match your body?

00:21:08.000 It already has, Joe.

00:21:10.000 Really?

00:21:10.000 It is the proper size that it did...

00:21:15.000 Yes.

00:21:16.000 And the doctor that told me it was too small is the one who told me that it had grown to the proper size.

00:21:21.000 Wow.

00:21:22.000 So why did it grow?

00:21:23.000 Because it recognized it was in a bigger body?

00:21:26.000 Joe, if you look at it physically and probably with a rational mind, it realized that it had to adapt to a large...

00:21:38.000 But I'm going to give a little credit to God because that's just me, man.

00:21:42.000 Because he came back too fast.

00:21:44.000 I mean, it was like a week later.

00:21:45.000 He said it's already the size it should be.

00:21:47.000 A week later?

00:21:48.000 Yes.

00:21:48.000 A week after the transplant?

00:21:49.000 A week later, before I left the hospital, he was telling me that it's already the size it should be.

00:21:55.000 Jesus.

00:21:56.000 And I said, see, Doc, I told you I'm blessed, man.

00:22:00.000 That doesn't make any sense.

00:22:02.000 I know.

00:22:03.000 What did he say?

00:22:03.000 Did the doctor say it doesn't make any sense, too?

00:22:05.000 No.

00:22:06.000 Or is it just a normal thing?

00:22:07.000 I have no idea.

00:22:09.000 Wow.

00:22:10.000 I have no idea if it's a normal thing or not.

00:22:12.000 But, you know, I mean, I'm getting crazy.

00:22:15.000 I'm like, wow, another miracle.

00:22:16.000 Thank God.

00:22:19.000 Like I said, I questioned God and my answer that I got back was simple.

00:22:26.000 He said, if I gave you an 18-year-old Olympic athlete's heart CT and you recovered and was doing well, then people are going to say that that's why.

00:22:38.000 We got an 18-year-old Olympic gold medalist heart and you're able to recover and stuff because of this.

00:22:45.000 But if I take an old lady's heart that's too small and that you're not supposed to be able to come back and do these things with this heart, Then they're going to have to give me a little credit. 0.99

00:23:00.000 He said, I have a habit of taking the least of the least, the lowest of the low, and making something out of it. 0.99

00:23:08.000 And I said, you know, let me shut the fuck up. 1.00

00:23:10.000 You're absolutely right. 0.99

00:23:11.000 It wouldn't be that impressive.

00:23:14.000 It wouldn't be a miracle if it was this wonderful heart.

00:23:18.000 But because I'm God, I'm going to take this heart and give it to you, and you're going to still do all those things. 0.98

00:23:25.000 So shut up, CT. I said, okay. 0.98

00:23:28.000 That's good.

00:23:29.000 Now, when you're exercising now, are you pushing or are you just getting to a point where you just feel a little tired and you back off?

00:23:38.000 No.

00:23:38.000 Joe Rogan.

00:23:40.000 I can't help but push myself.

00:23:42.000 I know.

00:23:43.000 That's why I'm asking that.

00:23:44.000 I give everything I got.

00:23:47.000 I can't help it.

00:23:50.000 Do you feel weird when your heart starts beating heavy?

00:23:54.000 Um...

00:23:55.000 Or should I say her heart?

00:23:57.000 Yeah, her heart starts beating pretty fast.

00:24:00.000 And, you know, I don't feel weird.

00:24:02.000 I feel like it's something I've done my whole life, and I'm just glad to be back, able to do, you know, some of what I used to do.

00:24:11.000 It's just, I feel good.

00:24:13.000 You know, I still talk to her, though.

00:24:15.000 Come on, lady. 1.00

00:24:15.000 I'm sure. 1.00

00:24:16.000 We should get through this set, lady.

00:24:18.000 Come on.

00:24:20.000 And now you feel it building up?

00:24:22.000 Like you feel like every month or so you get stronger?

00:24:27.000 Definitely.

00:24:29.000 Yeah, definitely.

00:24:29.000 I feel the longer that it's in me, the longer that the heart is in me, the more it feels like, you know, that's where it should be.

00:24:38.000 My body adapts.

00:24:40.000 And how long does a heart transplant usually survive in a person?

00:24:48.000 Well, I think the longest at this point is close to 40 years.

00:24:55.000 40 years?

00:24:56.000 Wow.

00:24:56.000 Yeah, I don't want 40 years.

00:24:59.000 I don't want to be 100, man.

00:25:01.000 You don't?

00:25:01.000 No.

00:25:02.000 Why not?

00:25:05.000 I want to, you know, I never expected, like I said, on June the 8th, I'll be 60. I never expected to make it to 40. Really?

00:25:15.000 Oh, really?

00:25:16.000 Really, yeah.

00:25:17.000 I never expected to make it.

00:25:19.000 I expected to die young.

00:25:20.000 So, I'm way past where I thought I would make it anyway.

00:25:27.000 Why did you think you were going to die that young?

00:25:28.000 Oh man, I never had...

00:25:30.000 I wanted to be...

00:25:31.000 I wanted to be the skyrocket, man. 0.98

00:25:35.000 To shoot brilliant, like to shoot... 0.83

00:25:37.000 Way up in the sky. 0.64

00:25:39.000 It'd be a brilliant burst.

00:25:40.000 And man, I thought that would be the perfect ending.

00:25:42.000 Just go for it.

00:25:44.000 Go for it, go for it, go for it, and explode. 1.00

00:25:49.000 That dead motherfucker, yeah. 1.00

00:25:50.000 But he was something else when he was alive. 1.00

00:25:54.000 I'd be happy with that.

00:25:56.000 That's what you thought was going to happen?

00:25:58.000 Yeah, definitely.

00:25:59.000 Wow.

00:26:00.000 Now you've got to settle in for 40 more years?

00:26:02.000 Yeah.

00:26:03.000 I don't even want to be 40 more years.

00:26:05.000 Well, why do you say that, though?

00:26:06.000 You want to be alive right now, and every day is a blessing right now.

00:26:09.000 So why isn't 40 years a blessing?

00:26:11.000 It would be a blessing, but I would be...

00:26:15.000 I don't want to be around where...

00:26:18.000 I don't want to be a burden on anybody.

00:26:22.000 And I think we're 100, man.

00:26:24.000 Somebody else got to take care of you. 1.00

00:26:26.000 Wipe your ass. 1.00

00:26:28.000 You got to wear diapers and shit. 1.00

00:26:31.000 I don't know if I... I wouldn't want to be around to be a burden on somebody. 0.99

00:26:36.000 Yeah.

00:26:36.000 Yeah, I know what you mean.

00:26:39.000 But right now, you're not a burden.

00:26:41.000 I hope not.

00:26:42.000 No.

00:26:42.000 I think my wife might disagree, but I hope not.

00:26:45.000 But you're moving around, man.

00:26:47.000 I mean, like I said, if I didn't know, I would have no idea.

00:26:50.000 Well, I appreciate that.

00:26:52.000 And even though I know you must have lost some muscle, if I just met you, I'd be like, this is a jacked dude.

00:26:57.000 Really?

00:26:57.000 Yeah, you still look at the size of your arms, man.

00:26:59.000 They're still huge.

00:27:01.000 I don't think so, but I appreciate that.

00:27:03.000 Just compared to what they used to be, that's why.

00:27:04.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:27:05.000 That's all it is.

00:27:06.000 So I don't see them as huge.

00:27:08.000 That kind of stuff don't even matter that much to me anymore.

00:27:12.000 Right, I'm sure.

00:27:12.000 You have a new lease on life.

00:27:14.000 Oh yeah, big time.

00:27:15.000 What matters to you now?

00:27:17.000 The really important things are, of course, my family and spreading donor awareness is so important because so many people die just waiting to get a heart, you know,

00:27:33.000 on the list.

00:27:34.000 I think 21 people a day.

00:27:36.000 Pass away, just waiting, trying to get...

00:27:39.000 And I was so fortunate, so blessed to be able to get one that I want to try to make sure that other people get one too.

00:27:47.000 So if whatever I can do to try to raise awareness...

00:27:50.000 What is the problem, like, people putting...

00:27:52.000 That they'll donate their organs?

00:27:54.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:27:55.000 It's so simple.

00:27:56.000 You can do it online now, on your driver's license.

00:27:58.000 In California, you can.

00:27:59.000 I don't know about other states.

00:28:01.000 But in California, you can do it all online, you know, and through the DMV, and get your dot on your driver's license.

00:28:10.000 And I want to be a donor.

00:28:11.000 And I mean, you can't take the stuff with you, no way.

00:28:15.000 No.

00:28:15.000 People get paranoid, too.

00:28:17.000 I've heard people say, I'm worried about doing that because what if they don't resuscitate me because they need someone to get a heart or a liver or something?

00:28:25.000 I'm like, I don't know, man.

00:28:26.000 I really don't think that's what doctors are into.

00:28:28.000 No, no.

00:28:29.000 It's...

00:28:30.000 Hell, I had a...

00:28:33.000 I, at younger, you know, when I first got my driver, I was 16 years old, and he asked me, do you want to be a donor?

00:28:39.000 I'm like, no!

00:28:40.000 I'm taking everything that God gave me with me.

00:28:44.000 I ain't donating nothing.

00:28:49.000 Time brings about a change, man.

00:28:51.000 You get a little older, a little more wisdom, and if I've got something somebody else can use, I most definitely take it.

00:29:00.000 My mother and all nine of her brothers and sisters all passed away from heart.

00:29:06.000 So it's just something that's in your family.

00:29:08.000 Oh yeah, it's a failure.

00:29:09.000 My older brother, Walt, passed away just a couple years ago from congestive heart failure and other complications.

00:29:17.000 So heart problems run big time in the Fletcher family.

00:29:20.000 That's a crazy one, right?

00:29:22.000 That does run in families. 0.93

00:29:24.000 Yep, it is crazy.

00:29:28.000 It's reality.

00:29:30.000 Yeah.

00:29:30.000 So now, what kind of diet do they have you on?

00:29:35.000 I eat very clean, Andrew.

00:29:38.000 I guess I have my kids crack up.

00:29:43.000 I tell them, I'm a Presbyterian, but actually, that's pescetarian.

00:29:48.000 I eat fish and vegetables. 0.98

00:29:54.000 It's no bullshit. 0.89

00:29:55.000 Yeah. 0.96

00:29:56.000 No bullshit. 0.99

00:29:57.000 No time for bullshit, right? 0.99

00:29:58.000 No time for bullshit. 1.00

00:30:00.000 That's exactly right, man. 1.00

00:30:01.000 Do you drink coffee?

00:30:02.000 Time is precious.

00:30:03.000 No, I used to.

00:30:04.000 But the caffeine, my doctors don't like me to have the caffeine.

00:30:08.000 Yeah, I would imagine.

00:30:09.000 Yeah.

00:30:10.000 So, rest must be very important for you, too.

00:30:14.000 Yeah, I get funny of it.

00:30:17.000 Yeah, it is.

00:30:18.000 What other things do they make sure that you do?

00:30:21.000 The diet has to be on point.

00:30:23.000 I have to take my medication.

00:30:26.000 They don't want me to do too much strenuous activities.

00:30:34.000 They had limited me.

00:30:35.000 I was not able to travel out of the country until yesterday.

00:30:42.000 So at one year anniversary, that's when they give you the green light?

00:30:46.000 Yep.

00:30:46.000 Now I can go all over.

00:30:48.000 What did they say when they saw you run in the parking lot and fall down?

00:30:51.000 All my doctors and, you know, they all said, oh, CT, what do you think?

00:30:59.000 Except one.

00:31:00.000 Except one, my cardiologist.

00:31:04.000 And he said, you know what, CT, I'm not going to lecture you like everybody else did.

00:31:08.000 You already know that you shouldn't have done that.

00:31:11.000 But man, I am so proud of you.

00:31:15.000 He said, you have inspired me to start working out again.

00:31:19.000 Wow!

00:31:20.000 Yep.

00:31:21.000 That was Dr. Salaam.

00:31:23.000 Dr. Salaam, if you're listening, thank you.

00:31:26.000 He was the only one that didn't condemn me.

00:31:29.000 How far out was that from the surgery when you fell down?

00:31:34.000 Three months. 1.00

00:31:36.000 You're so crazy! 0.97

00:31:38.000 Yeah, I felt like I could do it too. 0.99

00:31:40.000 My mind was like, go!

00:31:43.000 Yeah, well, that's that mentality that you have, you know.

00:31:47.000 I would imagine that's very hard to adjust.

00:31:50.000 Yeah, it's big time.

00:31:54.000 It would be the same for you. 0.98

00:31:57.000 You're an active guy, kicking the shit out of bags and stuff, old lightning foot over there. 0.99

00:32:05.000 And not be able to raise your leg or throw a punch. 1.00

00:32:13.000 Man, I'll be walking around in the grocery store with my wife and I'm like, man, I hope nobody fucks with me. 0.99

00:32:19.000 Oh, right, right, right. 0.99

00:32:20.000 So, how would you feel if somebody, you thinking, man, if somebody fucks with you, you can't even punch them? 0.95

00:32:27.000 Yeah, you can't do anything. 0.91

00:32:29.000 You can't do nothing.

00:32:30.000 You'd be helpless.

00:32:32.000 That's, man, that is hard to accept.

00:32:36.000 That's what little old ladies have to do. 1.00

00:32:37.000 Oh, yeah.

00:32:38.000 It's super hard to. 1.00

00:32:39.000 I'm like, man, if somebody fuck with me, I'm just going to get beat up. 1.00

00:32:42.000 I got no defense. 1.00

00:32:45.000 That's a terrible thing.

00:32:47.000 It's a terrible thing, but awfully humbling.

00:32:50.000 Awfully humbling, yeah. 0.99

00:32:51.000 Damn. 1.00

00:32:52.000 And you realize, you know, just how your whole life you've lived for strength. 1.00

00:32:58.000 You know, I've been a strong man my whole life.

00:33:01.000 And then all of a sudden, all of that is taken away.

00:33:05.000 And you just, you know... 1.00

00:33:07.000 A fucking invalid, man. 1.00

00:33:10.000 You're just weak as shit. 1.00

00:33:12.000 It's very hard mentally to deal with. 1.00

00:33:16.000 But you're past that now.

00:33:19.000 Yes.

00:33:19.000 Now you're just in...

00:33:22.000 How would you categorize how you feel right now?

00:33:26.000 I categorize my emotional feelings as being probably better than ever.

00:33:34.000 Really?

00:33:34.000 Yes.

00:33:36.000 I see things in such a different light.

00:33:40.000 After coming that close to dying, the things that I thought were important just don't even matter.

00:33:48.000 Like what?

00:33:48.000 Give me an example.

00:33:49.000 I used to, I'll give you one example.

00:33:51.000 You know, people, I used to tell, okay, you asked me about this last time I was on the show.

00:33:56.000 And I tell people, they say, well, it's about the steroids.

00:33:59.000 Steroids, I'll see, do you take steroids? 0.97

00:34:02.000 And I tell them the same thing that I've been saying for fucking 25 years in magazine articles and stuff. 0.97

00:34:07.000 I tried them. 0.97

00:34:08.000 Yes, I tried them when I was young.

00:34:11.000 And it didn't work for me.

00:34:13.000 I stopped taking them.

00:34:15.000 Many, many, many years.

00:34:16.000 A lot of people don't believe that. 1.00

00:34:18.000 They don't believe that, and they'll tell me, oh, you're full of shit, CT. You're lying. 1.00

00:34:24.000 And Joe, that used to bother the fuck out of me. 1.00

00:34:26.000 People would be lying. 1.00

00:34:27.000 I'd be arguing with people online and say, fuck, I'll take your goddamn drug test anytime, any 24 hours a day you can test me. 1.00

00:34:34.000 I'll tell you what, I'll give you $10,000. 1.00

00:34:36.000 If I fail your drug test, all you got to do is get off fucking social media. 0.99

00:34:41.000 Nobody ever took that. 1.00

00:34:42.000 But, I don't give a fuck if people say I take steroids now. 0.99

00:34:47.000 I don't care. 0.99

00:34:47.000 Who cares? 0.99

00:34:48.000 Right.

00:34:48.000 I don't care.

00:34:49.000 Now, it's a fucking compliment. 0.99

00:34:51.000 Do you, you don't still go back and forth and argue with people online? 0.99

00:34:54.000 Oh, no.

00:34:55.000 No, not anymore.

00:34:56.000 But, you know, I sure did.

00:34:58.000 You sure did. 1.00

00:34:59.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

00:34:59.000 I would jump on them in a minute. 1.00

00:35:02.000 I used to see you doing it.

00:35:03.000 I'd shake my head.

00:35:04.000 I'd be like, why is he doing that?

00:35:05.000 Oh, man.

00:35:06.000 Because that was my mentality.

00:35:08.000 Yeah.

00:35:08.000 I tacked back.

00:35:10.000 Mm-hmm. 1.00

00:35:10.000 You hit me, I'm going to hit you back, man. 1.00

00:35:12.000 I'm going to try to hit you harder than you. 1.00

00:35:14.000 Let's go. 0.99

00:35:15.000 All caps.

00:35:16.000 Oh, yeah.

00:35:17.000 You know, I do the all caps.

00:35:18.000 People talk to me about, you're yelling, you're yelling, CT, but I can't have C. So I make it all caps so I can read what I'm talking about.

00:35:26.000 Right, right, right.

00:35:27.000 Or you're yelling.

00:35:28.000 I say, can you actually hear that?

00:35:29.000 Can you actually hear those words?

00:35:32.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:35:34.000 You're fucking, wow, you got spidey sense, man. 1.00

00:35:37.000 That is one of the most humbling things about getting older, is the vision going. 1.00

00:35:41.000 Oh, yeah. 0.56

00:35:42.000 I've noticed, like, from when I was, like, 42, I started to notice it, and by the time I was 46, I was like, God damn it, I think I need glasses. 0.53

00:35:50.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.96

00:35:50.000 Because I would just try to read the computer and I'd be doing this with my eyes, bulging my eyes and squinting and trying to look at it sideways and trying to see what the fuck I was reading. 0.96

00:36:00.000 It's a weird thing.

00:36:01.000 It's like, oh boy, my ability to see the world is fading.

00:36:04.000 It happens.

00:36:05.000 It happens to the best of us.

00:36:07.000 But it's a warning sign.

00:36:08.000 Like, hey man, this is a finite existence. 0.99

00:36:12.000 Get some shit done. 0.99

00:36:14.000 Right now. 0.99

00:36:16.000 Right now.

00:36:17.000 Don't wait.

00:36:18.000 Don't be waiting.

00:36:19.000 Time is such a precious commodity.

00:36:23.000 Billionaires, you cannot buy one second.

00:36:26.000 No.

00:36:27.000 One second of life.

00:36:29.000 Yeah.

00:36:29.000 Can't do it.

00:36:30.000 Nope.

00:36:31.000 It's so precious.

00:36:33.000 If anything that you're thinking about doing and you've been putting off...

00:36:38.000 My advice is to get the stepping. 0.99

00:36:42.000 Get to doing that shit right now, man. 1.00

00:36:44.000 Get after it. 1.00

00:36:45.000 Don't put it off any longer.

00:36:47.000 Get it done.

00:36:48.000 So do you feel like you're like C.T. Fletcher 2.0?

00:36:51.000 Definitely.

00:36:53.000 A new dude.

00:36:55.000 A new dude with a new attitude, man.

00:36:58.000 Yep, big time.

00:36:59.000 No more you won't be arguing.

00:37:00.000 I tell the guys I used to argue with online, hey, I love you, man.

00:37:04.000 If you hate me all you want to, I love you. 1.00

00:37:07.000 Shit. 1.00

00:37:07.000 I ain't got time for hate. 1.00

00:37:08.000 Yeah.

00:37:09.000 Or racism.

00:37:11.000 I ain't got time for none of that. 0.99

00:37:13.000 It's all foolishness. 1.00

00:37:14.000 It's so much bullshit and just a waste of time. 1.00

00:37:17.000 It ain't even funny. 1.00

00:37:19.000 Yeah.

00:37:19.000 I'm like, look, if...

00:37:20.000 And the transplant experience enhanced my view.

00:37:25.000 I've always said we're all the same under the bar.

00:37:27.000 My mom taught me to love everybody.

00:37:29.000 But look, they took, I have no idea, the nationality of race of the donor.

00:37:37.000 It don't matter.

00:37:38.000 I hope you're right.

00:37:39.000 If you're right and it's an Asian woman, I think that would be fantastic that you could feel that, that you would know that and you could feel it.

00:37:45.000 Man, wouldn't that be something?

00:37:47.000 It'd be amazing.

00:37:48.000 I gotta find out.

00:37:49.000 How can you find out?

00:37:50.000 I don't, I have no idea.

00:37:53.000 I want, hopefully they're listening to the Joe Rogan podcast.

00:37:56.000 Well, why don't you give them some details?

00:37:58.000 Like when, what day did it happen and what Like, where did they tell you where the donor came from?

00:38:06.000 Nope.

00:38:06.000 Part of the country?

00:38:07.000 Nope.

00:38:08.000 I know that the heart was flown in.

00:38:12.000 And I actually, you know, my wife videoed it.

00:38:14.000 How crazy is that?

00:38:15.000 It's something else, man.

00:38:16.000 They took a heart out of someone's body and they put it on ice and flew it to you.

00:38:19.000 And we actually, she has video of the ice chest, you know, me going into the room and then the ice chest come following right afterwards.

00:38:28.000 God, that's so crazy.

00:38:29.000 It is crazy.

00:38:30.000 It's crazy.

00:38:30.000 I mean, when I was a kid, it would be like Dr. Frankenstein.

00:38:35.000 They didn't start doing it until 68, and I was born in 59. Wow, they did heart transplants in 68?

00:38:42.000 In 68, yeah, that was the first one, yeah, 1968. They've been doing it a long time, but when I was a kid, it would have been like Dr. Frankenstein.

00:38:50.000 He told me something like that was possible.

00:38:52.000 I would have said, oh, hell no. 1.00

00:38:54.000 You're crazy. 1.00

00:38:55.000 You're just making it up as science fiction. 0.99

00:38:57.000 But it most certainly is possible.

00:39:01.000 They think they're going to be able to grow your own heart.

00:39:03.000 Yeah.

00:39:04.000 They're working on that right now.

00:39:05.000 Growing your own heart with stem cells.

00:39:07.000 Yep.

00:39:07.000 And you know, it's going to happen.

00:39:09.000 Which is just crazy.

00:39:11.000 Yep.

00:39:11.000 It is going to happen, I have no doubt.

00:39:14.000 Yeah, they've already grew a woman's bladder. 1.00

00:39:16.000 A woman had bladder cancer, and they grew her a new bladder.

00:39:20.000 Wow.

00:39:21.000 Yeah, and replaced her bladder. 0.78

00:39:22.000 Yep, so the heart's coming.

00:39:25.000 Yeah.

00:39:25.000 It's coming, man.

00:39:26.000 Yeah, they're already working on, I think their 3D, see if you can find it, Jamie, their 3D printing human heart.

00:39:34.000 And they think that they're going to be able to get to a point where they have a working model of a human heart.

00:39:39.000 Wow.

00:39:41.000 And put your heart in your body.

00:39:44.000 A freshie.

00:39:45.000 Wow.

00:39:46.000 A brand new one.

00:39:47.000 Which is just so crazy.

00:39:49.000 That is crazy.

00:39:50.000 And how about for people who are amputees and things along those lines?

00:39:54.000 So be able to replace limbs with your own limb.

00:39:57.000 Actually grow you a limb.

00:39:59.000 Isn't that crazy?

00:40:00.000 Yeah.

00:40:02.000 Here it is.

00:40:03.000 The first 3D printed heart made up of living human cells.

00:40:08.000 Yeah, man.

00:40:11.000 Thank God there's people smarter than us.

00:40:14.000 Oh, yeah.

00:40:15.000 Oh, yeah.

00:40:16.000 Look at that.

00:40:16.000 That is a heart made by Tel Aviv University.

00:40:21.000 Wow.

00:40:22.000 A heart the size of a rabbit marks the first time an entire heart has been 3D printed.

00:40:28.000 So that's a tiny one right now, but complete with living cells, blood vessels, ventricles, and chambers intact.

00:40:34.000 Incredible.

00:40:35.000 Oh my god, that is incredible.

00:40:37.000 Mini heart can contract, but it can't yet pump out blood.

00:40:40.000 So they're working on all those different variables, I guess.

00:40:42.000 But man, isn't that incredible?

00:40:44.000 Look at that.

00:40:45.000 Doing it with a 3D printing machine.

00:40:48.000 3D printing machines freak me the fuck out.

00:40:51.000 That's the future.

00:40:52.000 They're going to be able to make things.

00:40:54.000 Yep.

00:40:54.000 Look at that.

00:40:56.000 Look how that works.

00:40:57.000 Folks who haven't seen this, this is What the Future.

00:41:00.000 It's on CNET.com.

00:41:03.000 You can Google it and just watch the video of them actually creating this.

00:41:06.000 It is unbelievably fascinating.

00:41:10.000 So did you look at the heart before they put it in you?

00:41:12.000 Did you have a chance to see it?

00:41:13.000 No, no.

00:41:14.000 I was out.

00:41:15.000 Yeah, I was out by that time.

00:41:18.000 Wow.

00:41:19.000 Didn't look at it.

00:41:20.000 So you wake up.

00:41:22.000 Lights come back on.

00:41:23.000 Yep.

00:41:26.000 Doctor's there, your wife's there?

00:41:27.000 Yep, doctor's there, my wife's there. 1.00

00:41:30.000 And it was, you know, a new day.

00:41:34.000 And I was like, I kind of wanted to say, I told you so.

00:41:42.000 Yeah, that was the first thing that popped in.

00:41:45.000 That's hilarious.

00:41:46.000 I told you so.

00:41:47.000 I told you so was a funny thing to say when you come back from a heart transplant.

00:41:50.000 Well, I mean, because you would be surprised at how many...

00:41:55.000 That would be so funny, though, if you did say that.

00:41:56.000 Yeah, I told you so. 0.87

00:41:58.000 It was so many, I got so many people, and it was overwhelming support, but I got quite a few, well, too many for me, messages or DMs, and I hope you don't make it, I hope you die, and I wish we're dead already, you know,

00:42:13.000 stuff like that.

00:42:14.000 Do you feel sorry for those people now?

00:42:18.000 Oh, yeah, most definitely now.

00:42:20.000 Instead of being angry. 0.99

00:42:22.000 Yeah, before the stage, I was like, you know, choke the shit out of them. 0.97

00:42:27.000 But, you know, now, man, you got to be... 0.98

00:42:33.000 Your existence must be pretty pitiful for you to feel that much hate for somebody that you don't even know, never even met.

00:42:43.000 I just can't stand Joe Rogan. 0.80

00:42:46.000 I hate him!

00:42:47.000 I never met him. 0.98

00:42:48.000 I never sit down.

00:42:49.000 Yeah, there's no happy people that are doing that.

00:42:51.000 No, man.

00:42:52.000 It's so transparent.

00:42:53.000 You've got to be pretty, you know... 0.98

00:42:55.000 Unbelievably miserable. 0.99

00:42:57.000 Miserable. 0.99

00:42:58.000 Just miserable. 1.00

00:42:59.000 I'm going to follow Joe Rogan just so I can talk shit about him. 1.00

00:43:03.000 I don't care. 0.98

00:43:04.000 I wish Joe Rogan was off the air, but I'm following every word he says because I don't want to miss nothing that Joe Rogan has to say. 0.52

00:43:13.000 But I hate him.

00:43:15.000 Yeah.

00:43:15.000 Makes no sense, man.

00:43:17.000 Well, it doesn't make sense, but a lot of people don't make sense.

00:43:20.000 That's true.

00:43:20.000 People live their lives in just very counterproductive ways, and they feel like as long as they've got something they're excited about, that they're doing something.

00:43:27.000 Even if it's excited about hating you for no reason.

00:43:30.000 Yeah.

00:43:32.000 I don't get it.

00:43:33.000 Time is too precious to waste on hate. 1.00

00:43:35.000 It's just foolish. 0.99

00:43:36.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:43:36.000 It's a foolish way to exist. 1.00

00:43:39.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:43:39.000 They can take livers and hearts and different organs from any nationality and switch them around. 0.98

00:43:47.000 We're interchangeable, Joe.

00:43:48.000 We are interchangeable, man.

00:43:50.000 Well, we're all one thing.

00:43:52.000 Yes!

00:43:52.000 The only thing that separates us is the climate that we came from.

00:43:55.000 That's it.

00:43:56.000 That's it.

00:43:57.000 And so it makes racism so... 1.00

00:44:01.000 It's stupid! 1.00

00:44:02.000 Well, everything's stupid. 1.00

00:44:04.000 Tribalism is stupid across the board. 1.00

00:44:06.000 Conservative versus liberal, that's stupid. 1.00

00:44:09.000 Southern versus Northern, that's stupid. 1.00

00:44:11.000 It's stupid, Joe. 1.00

00:44:11.000 Yeah, Asian versus Black is stupid. 1.00

00:44:14.000 It is so stupid, Joe. 1.00

00:44:14.000 White versus Pakistani is stupid. 1.00

00:44:17.000 It's all stupid. 1.00

00:44:17.000 It's so stupid. 1.00

00:44:20.000 We're all interchangeable, dude. 1.00

00:44:23.000 That right there shows us that we're all one, man.

00:44:28.000 We wouldn't be interchangeable.

00:44:30.000 No. 0.99

00:44:32.000 It's this outer shit that's on top, this epidermis, this skin, this stuff that divides us. 1.00

00:44:41.000 That's also what makes us interesting, too. 1.00

00:44:44.000 That's what's so foolish about it.

00:44:45.000 What's fascinating to me is that human beings came from every single spot on the earth. 0.95

00:44:50.000 At one time, they originated in Africa and spread out all over the planet and adapted to it.

00:44:56.000 Each individual environment.

00:44:58.000 When you meet someone from Ireland, they're white like paper. 1.00

00:45:00.000 That shit's just because there's no sun. 1.00

00:45:02.000 Exactly. 1.00

00:45:03.000 Their body developed like a solar panel for vitamin D. They're like, we gotta figure out how to get fucking vitamin D. This black skin ain't cutting it. 1.00

00:45:10.000 There's no fucking sun out here. 0.99

00:45:11.000 And we don't need this melanin because we're not protecting ourselves from the sun anymore. 0.99

00:45:15.000 So they turn white.

00:45:16.000 But they're the same exact thing.

00:45:18.000 Exactly.

00:45:26.000 This gentleman here, Graham Hancock, was on my podcast last week and he's a brilliant, brilliant guy but he studies ancient civilizations and people and one of the things that they're studying now is The various civilizations that we didn't even know existed,

00:45:42.000 that existed in South America, like huge, multi-million size population civilizations in the Amazon.

00:45:52.000 Like 20 million people living in the Amazon at one point in time.

00:45:54.000 They think they were wiped out by Spanish explorers and European explorers that came over and gave them smallpox.

00:46:00.000 The way they wiped out 90% of the Native Americans, they think the same thing happened down there in the Amazon.

00:46:06.000 They had huge cities down there that European settlers had reported on.

00:46:10.000 They were just wiped out.

00:46:11.000 But the point is that We were everywhere.

00:46:14.000 And it's all one thing.

00:46:16.000 It's all human.

00:46:16.000 It is.

00:46:17.000 That's it.

00:46:18.000 The human race.

00:46:19.000 That's it, man. 0.96

00:46:20.000 And the funny thing about white people that are racist is that, especially, like, I have Neanderthal DNA that's more primitive than Homo sapien DNA. And it's only in white people. 0.97

00:46:31.000 Like, it's kind of funny that way. 1.00

00:46:33.000 You know, because white racists, like, they have to deal with the fact that only white people carry that Neanderthal shit in them. 1.00

00:46:40.000 That's it. 1.00

00:46:43.000 I don't think that they would find that a bad thing, bro.

00:46:48.000 The Neanderthal Neanderthal?

00:46:49.000 Yeah, no, I think they'd be.

00:46:50.000 Hell yes! 0.74

00:46:51.000 Oh, right?

00:46:52.000 Yeah.

00:46:52.000 Well, they weren't smart enough to stick around.

00:46:55.000 For whatever reason, they don't even know why.

00:46:57.000 They don't know if we outbred them, or if we interbred with them, or if we wiped them out.

00:47:01.000 They don't even know.

00:47:02.000 They're also finding new humans.

00:47:04.000 There's a human they found in Russia called Denisovan, is that what you're saying?

00:47:09.000 And they just found more bones of them in Tibet.

00:47:11.000 So they know that these Russian people that was a totally distinct subspecies of human traveled to Tibet.

00:47:19.000 Wow.

00:47:20.000 Yeah, and Neanderthals lived for half a million years.

00:47:24.000 So they were around way longer than we were.

00:47:26.000 We've only been around, I think, for a couple hundred thousand years, homo sapiens.

00:47:29.000 So they were around longer than us, by a factor of somewhere around 300,000 years.

00:47:35.000 Yeah, all over the world, man.

00:47:37.000 What a crazy animal we are.

00:47:39.000 We just travel everywhere and find a spot and adapt.

00:47:42.000 And that's right.

00:47:44.000 We make it work.

00:47:45.000 Stay in a community so you can help each other and live off each other and adapt.

00:47:50.000 And unfortunately, that's where all our tribalism comes from, too. 1.00

00:47:53.000 We have this tight-knit group and everybody else, fuck everybody else. 1.00

00:47:57.000 It's us versus them. 1.00

00:47:58.000 And that's inside of us, you know?

00:48:00.000 Wouldn't it be great?

00:48:04.000 I don't think that it's wrong.

00:48:09.000 If you're an Italian guy, I don't think it's wrong to be very proud of being Italian.

00:48:15.000 And if you're a Polish guy, I don't think it's wrong to be very proud of being Polish.

00:48:22.000 Why can't I be proud or why can't you be proud of being whatever race you are?

00:48:28.000 You can be proud of that, but does that mean that I have to hate Another guy because he's not the race that I am?

00:48:36.000 You can be proud of what you are and not hate another guy for being different than what you are.

00:48:42.000 How about we give that a try?

00:48:44.000 Well, I think the feeling that you got from the second chance on life, this beautiful feeling of appreciation and celebration of this existence.

00:48:53.000 That's what we need to try to foster in people.

00:48:56.000 We need to try to let people know this is a temporary thing, man.

00:49:01.000 If you're lucky, like we were talking about 100 years.

00:49:04.000 If you're lucky, you get to 100 years.

00:49:06.000 I'm 51. I'm halfway there, right?

00:49:08.000 If I'm lucky, if everything works out perfect, and it probably isn't.

00:49:11.000 Let's be honest. 0.98

00:49:12.000 I beat the shit out of my body, right? 0.98

00:49:14.000 So it's probably not going to make it that long. 0.91

00:49:15.000 Do you want to make it to be 100, Joe?

00:49:17.000 I'll see what's up.

00:49:18.000 Yeah, I do because I'm a science nerd. 0.99

00:49:22.000 I'm fascinated by all these 3D printed hearts and all this shit. 0.99

00:49:25.000 I want to see what the fuck they can do. 0.99

00:49:27.000 I really think, and talking to guys like David Sinclair and all these anti-aging specialists, I think they're on the verge of being able to reverse aging. 0.99

00:49:36.000 They're treating aging like it's a disease, like it's a disease at the cellular level.

00:49:41.000 Instead of accepting it and that like, well...

00:49:44.000 You get older, hey, you're going to have to accept you can't do as much, your body's not going to work as well.

00:49:49.000 Why?

00:49:50.000 Maybe that's not the case.

00:49:51.000 Maybe if they can correct certain things about the human body, maybe they can correct that.

00:49:56.000 I think it's very likely that in the future, I don't think that's an insurmountable situation.

00:50:01.000 I think they're going to be able to correct what happens to your body when it ages.

00:50:04.000 The deterioration that's caused by the aging process, your body produces less hormones, your body starts to slow down, Alzheimer's, all these different things.

00:50:14.000 I think they're going to be able to correct those things.

00:50:18.000 Wow.

00:50:19.000 The problem with that is, then what?

00:50:21.000 Are you going to live forever?

00:50:22.000 Are you going to be happy living forever?

00:50:23.000 What if when you die, it's amazing?

00:50:26.000 What if when you die, there really is a heaven?

00:50:28.000 You really do go to some spectacular dimension filled with love and peace and happiness, and there's no emotions like we think about here.

00:50:39.000 There's no fear.

00:50:41.000 None of the things that hold people back, none of the anxiety and the angst.

00:50:45.000 It's just consciousness and love.

00:50:48.000 And then you're wasting your time here just trying to stay alive, taking pills to live to be a million. 0.66

00:50:54.000 Boy, you open a big-ass can of worms right there. 0.99

00:50:59.000 Well, I will tell you, Joe, without a shadow of a doubt, none whatsoever, death is not the end. 0.87

00:51:12.000 You don't think so?

00:51:13.000 I know.

00:51:13.000 I know, Joe.

00:51:14.000 How do you know?

00:51:15.000 Because I've been dead.

00:51:17.000 Right.

00:51:17.000 Yes, I've been dead.

00:51:18.000 What about that experience cemented it in your head?

00:51:25.000 Like I said, it was the most peaceful experience.

00:51:31.000 Um, and, and I, I don't feel like it was the most peace, most restful, most, I was, I woke up laughing.

00:51:41.000 I was, yeah, yeah.

00:51:43.000 I was, I was overjoyed.

00:51:47.000 You woke up laughing?

00:51:48.000 Yeah.

00:51:48.000 I was overjoyed.

00:51:51.000 Do you remember anything about what happened when you blacked out?

00:51:54.000 The time was extremely peaceful.

00:51:59.000 I didn't have a worry.

00:52:02.000 And I was not sad at all.

00:52:06.000 I was overjoyed, very happy, very peaceful, and it erased Any fear that I might have had and any fear of dying is gone.

00:52:23.000 I don't fear death at all.

00:52:26.000 So, maybe that's why I don't want to live to be 100. Because, I mean, I wouldn't mind visiting that place again, man.

00:52:32.000 It was so much peace, so much.

00:52:35.000 And it wasn't like, you know, this is, you know, I'm just in the ground and I'm not a plant, just...

00:52:45.000 Dirt.

00:52:46.000 You know, I know that I'm in a very comfortable place.

00:52:51.000 And, you know, I wouldn't mind visiting again.

00:52:55.000 I wouldn't mind.

00:52:56.000 So definitely, I have no fear.

00:52:59.000 When I say that, it's definitely not the end.

00:53:02.000 I believe that your soul, people have a different name for it, consciousness or whatever, is definitely eternal.

00:53:11.000 How else could you have these feelings or emotions or have that sort of comfort, the feeling of comfort and being in the right place?

00:53:23.000 If something didn't continue, because my life, my life was gone.

00:53:27.000 The essence of life, my body was, you know, gone.

00:53:30.000 It was gone.

00:53:31.000 Flatlined, dead, whatever. 0.96

00:53:32.000 I told my doctor that I died, and he said, no, actually, it's caused some kind of pause or some shit like that. 0.95

00:53:38.000 And I said, look, if the pause lasted, doc, I wouldn't be talking to you right now.

00:53:43.000 So I go, okay, you call it a pause.

00:53:46.000 I go, well, during that pause, I was dead.

00:53:49.000 So, it was a wonderful feeling.

00:53:54.000 Well, I think with a guy like you that's so physical and you've been so physical your whole life, the big fear is to not be able to take care of yourself or move.

00:54:03.000 Like, that's what we were talking about when you get to talk about being 100. Like, having someone wipe your ass and take care of you. 0.99

00:54:09.000 Like, that's the big fear. 1.00

00:54:10.000 It's not death.

00:54:12.000 Death is just peaceful.

00:54:13.000 It's the end.

00:54:14.000 But the big fear is the deterioration of the physical body to the point where it's just painful.

00:54:20.000 Everything's painful and you can't go anywhere.

00:54:22.000 You can't count on yourself.

00:54:24.000 Yeah, it's very peaceful, but I definitely don't think it's the end.

00:54:31.000 I think it's the beginning.

00:54:33.000 Yeah.

00:54:41.000 I was able to peek over into the other side.

00:54:45.000 And there is definite assurance that it's not the end.

00:54:50.000 And that there is something else on the other side.

00:54:53.000 I have that assurance.

00:54:54.000 I was able to peek into it.

00:54:57.000 Well, I think we all have this feeling that we are something other than our body.

00:55:01.000 Most definitely.

00:55:02.000 I mean, I have that feeling.

00:55:03.000 Like, I feel like there's like a little ball of energy in there that moves this thing around.

00:55:09.000 Well, you're right.

00:55:10.000 But that's what it feels like.

00:55:11.000 It always feels like that.

00:55:13.000 Yep.

00:55:13.000 I've always rejected the label atheist.

00:55:16.000 Like, people say, are you religious?

00:55:18.000 I'm like, I was when I was a little kid.

00:55:20.000 I had to go to Catholic school, and I did all that jazz.

00:55:24.000 But my parents, when I grew up, were hippies after that.

00:55:27.000 My mom split up from my dad.

00:55:29.000 My mom shacked up with my stepfather, who's a hippie.

00:55:32.000 Mm-hmm.

00:55:33.000 And there was no church after that.

00:55:35.000 But I'm not an atheist.

00:55:37.000 I don't know.

00:55:38.000 I don't believe anybody that says they know what life is or what life means or what happens when you die.

00:55:47.000 I want to hear your opinions.

00:55:49.000 I want to hear your thoughts.

00:55:50.000 But you don't know.

00:55:51.000 And anybody that says they know what happens when they die, I know what happens when I die.

00:55:56.000 It'll be black and cold and that is the end.

00:55:59.000 And just like there was nothing before, there'll be nothing at the end.

00:56:02.000 And like, you don't know that.

00:56:03.000 You're just saying that.

00:56:04.000 There is no God.

00:56:05.000 How do you say that?

00:56:06.000 How do you say that?

00:56:07.000 Well, one day, what if you stand in front of God?

00:56:10.000 Or in God's presence in some non-physical form, and then you're weeping in your arrogance and stating that there's no higher power.

00:56:21.000 Like, it might be the universe itself might be God.

00:56:24.000 I mean, we don't know anything. 1.00

00:56:26.000 We are strange little monkey people living on this fucking planet, making things that alter our environment, moving around, driving, flying, talking to each other, talking shit. 0.99

00:56:38.000 But at the end of the day, You're only aware of what you've experienced. 1.00

00:56:42.000 Right.

00:56:42.000 And when you don't know, that's like when people have had, I've talked to several friends that have had near-death experiences.

00:56:48.000 A very good friend of mine, she was in a car accident and she had a very similar thing where she said it was so peaceful.

00:56:55.000 Yeah.

00:56:55.000 She said, you know, they got, I think they got rear-ended and like really banged up.

00:57:01.000 And when it felt like she was going to die, she felt so peaceful.

00:57:07.000 Yeah.

00:57:07.000 It's so true, Drew.

00:57:09.000 I think a lot of people that have come that close to dying, a lot of them are going to say the same thing, that they have no fear of death anymore.

00:57:19.000 It's erased.

00:57:22.000 But you also have the feeling that you know that this existence on Earth, when your physical body dies, is definitely not the end.

00:57:29.000 And the way she describes it is exactly the way you do it.

00:57:32.000 She's my manager, and I talk to her all the time.

00:57:35.000 The way she describes things is essentially exactly how you did, that it's just so peaceful.

00:57:40.000 It just felt peaceful.

00:57:43.000 Yeah.

00:57:44.000 But not, you know, like...

00:57:47.000 Like people who don't believe in that, by the way, let me say, I'm not religious either.

00:57:55.000 I was raised super religious in a super religious home by a Pentecostal, heaven or hell, brimstone, fire and brimstone preacher.

00:58:07.000 Do they do the tongues? 0.96

00:58:08.000 Oh, yes.

00:58:10.000 Oh, that's hilarious.

00:58:11.000 That's my favorite.

00:58:12.000 And shouting, and speaking in tongues, everything, everything.

00:58:15.000 Everything was a sin also.

00:58:17.000 Everything was a sin.

00:58:19.000 Dancing, listening to rock and roll music.

00:58:23.000 Everything was a sin.

00:58:26.000 So I think that's really what drove me away from being a religious person.

00:58:32.000 I always say I'm a man of faith.

00:58:34.000 I have a tremendous amount of faith.

00:58:37.000 But faith and religion are two different things.

00:58:39.000 A lot of people confuse them, and they talk about them as being the same, but they are definitely not.

00:58:46.000 Religion is man-made, and a set of rules, and man says, okay, we're going to be this, and if you want to be this religion, then you're going to have to go by these rules. 0.93

00:58:55.000 And it's all man-made, but faith is not man-made.

00:58:59.000 And so I'm a tremendous man of faith, but not religion.

00:59:03.000 Yeah, some would say that you're a spiritual person.

00:59:05.000 That's a thing that gets thrown around today.

00:59:08.000 I'm not religious, but I'm spiritual.

00:59:09.000 People say that a lot.

00:59:10.000 What does that mean?

00:59:11.000 No one really knows.

00:59:13.000 It's a strange sort of definition, but I feel what you're saying.

00:59:16.000 There's something more to this.

00:59:18.000 There's something more to this than just tissue and bone and blood moving on this rock that's traveling through the universe.

00:59:25.000 There's something more.

00:59:27.000 And maybe it's just something more for us.

00:59:30.000 But the beauty of friendship and love and family, those things are intense.

00:59:38.000 Beautiful, emotional experiences that I don't know.

00:59:43.000 They seem to transcend just regular life itself.

00:59:47.000 There's a higher power to them, a higher beauty to them.

00:59:50.000 I think that's one of the things that we like when we see people doing something really great.

00:59:55.000 We love seeing people accomplish things because we like seeing people succeed.

01:00:00.000 We like seeing people that have doubts and something almost insurmountable and incredibly difficult in front of them, and then they overcome.

01:00:10.000 And it gives us all hope.

01:00:11.000 And it gives us all this inspiration, this feeling.

01:00:14.000 We're connected in some sort of very, very strange way that I think you could just chalk it up.

01:00:19.000 Oh, that's just camaraderie.

01:00:20.000 We needed that because of evolution.

01:00:21.000 That's how we stayed alive.

01:00:22.000 Like, maybe.

01:00:23.000 Maybe.

01:00:24.000 But maybe there's something else.

01:00:25.000 Maybe whatever this consciousness is that's totally not – no one has ever defined consciousness.

01:00:30.000 And there's certain people that think that it occurs only in the brain and the neurons and the synapses.

01:00:35.000 And it might – or that might just be an antenna.

01:00:38.000 Consciousness might very well be you are using your physical tissue to tune in to whatever this thing that we share is.

01:00:49.000 This life force that we all seem to share.

01:00:54.000 Looking in someone's eyes, man.

01:00:56.000 Like, when you know someone's, like, there for you, and you know you're there for them, like that camaraderie, that intense camaraderie, it's like that expression, the windows to the soul, that the eyes are the windows to the soul, it really does seem like that, right?

01:01:11.000 Like, you see people.

01:01:13.000 You see them, you know?

01:01:15.000 Like the avatar lady said, I see you.

01:01:17.000 Yeah, and you can, it's, um...

01:01:22.000 Being able to look into somebody's eyes, you can tell...

01:01:25.000 A lot.

01:01:26.000 You can tell if they're bullshitting.

01:01:28.000 Yes. 1.00

01:01:28.000 If they're full of shit or not, man. 1.00

01:01:30.000 Or if they feel weird about something, feeling secure. 1.00

01:01:33.000 Maybe they feel like, maybe this isn't a smart thing, or maybe I should have done better by you, or maybe I fucked you over. 0.99

01:01:40.000 Yeah, you can tell. 0.99

01:01:41.000 Yeah, you can tell that.

01:01:42.000 And I told you the first time I had the open-heart surgery and flatlined three times, During that surgery, I also had an experience that also strengthens my belief in there being something after the body dies.

01:02:04.000 A vision or whatever you want to call it.

01:02:09.000 I was able to see my mother, who had passed away the year before.

01:02:15.000 And, you know, I say I see my mother.

01:02:17.000 I didn't see her face.

01:02:18.000 I just heard her voice, and I knew it was her.

01:02:21.000 And she was, you know, pleading.

01:02:26.000 I say God.

01:02:27.000 A lot of people may say, you know, whatever they look up to, and I ain't got no problem with that.

01:02:33.000 I don't think that because people don't believe exactly like I believe that they're doomed and they're going to hell.

01:02:40.000 Although that was the way I was raised.

01:02:42.000 If you don't believe like this, I mean, all Catholics, according to my dad, all Catholics were just lost.

01:02:51.000 They're not going to make it because they don't, you know, believe. 1.00

01:02:54.000 They believe the wrong shit. 1.00

01:02:54.000 They don't believe the right shit. 1.00

01:02:56.000 So, of course, they're not going to make it. 1.00

01:02:58.000 What about Jews?

01:02:59.000 They're not going to make it.

01:03:01.000 If you don't believe like this. 1.00

01:03:02.000 Muslims fucked up. 1.00

01:03:04.000 I'm just lost, man. 1.00

01:03:06.000 Mormons fucked up. 1.00

01:03:06.000 Oh man, you're lost. 1.00

01:03:07.000 Scientologists really fucked up. 1.00

01:03:09.000 They really fucked up. 1.00

01:03:10.000 You're especially lost. 1.00

01:03:13.000 That's how they felt.

01:03:14.000 Yeah, that's how they felt.

01:03:15.000 That's how I was taught.

01:03:16.000 And I just, you know, I don't believe that.

01:03:19.000 You got this, my dad was, some people, my dad thought that he could walk on water.

01:03:25.000 He could do no wrong. 0.98

01:03:27.000 And it's the same guy that, you know, break my nose and send me to the fucking emergency room. 0.99

01:03:32.000 And my mom was a slave. 1.00

01:03:35.000 And I was perfectly fine with him. 1.00

01:03:37.000 And also, this was a guy that was fucking women in the church. 1.00

01:03:42.000 But... 1.00

01:03:44.000 If you don't believe like I believe, you're going to hell. 1.00

01:03:47.000 Yeah, people have a remarkable ability to be hypocrites. 1.00

01:03:50.000 Yeah. 0.72

01:03:51.000 I've seen that so much from super religious people that it just turned me off from being a religious person.

01:04:01.000 Well, I think a lot of what it is is control.

01:04:03.000 People want to control other people.

01:04:04.000 They want to be able to tell people what to do and when to do it, and that it gives them some power in their own life by doing so.

01:04:11.000 Yeah.

01:04:13.000 Man, I just, you know, it destroyed my faith and just super, you know, people that are in church every Sunday, every Tuesday.

01:04:25.000 We went to church sometimes.

01:04:26.000 Three times a week.

01:04:28.000 Three times a week?

01:04:29.000 Three times a week.

01:04:29.000 Every Tuesday, every Friday, and every Sunday.

01:04:32.000 In church, man.

01:04:33.000 In church.

01:04:33.000 During the Watts riots, I'm a little kid, we went to church.

01:04:38.000 Wow.

01:04:39.000 Yeah, the soldiers, the National Guard on the streets, they pulled my dad over.

01:04:44.000 I'm a little kid in the backseat.

01:04:46.000 Where are you going?

01:04:47.000 I'm going to church. 1.00

01:04:49.000 And I'm like, fuck, these guys, there's tanks on the street. 1.00

01:04:52.000 This guy's got a fucking M16. And my dad's like, we're going to church. 1.00

01:04:58.000 And I'm like, fuck, could you leave us at home? 0.99

01:05:00.000 Me and my brother, I'm like, could we leave? 1.00

01:05:03.000 I don't want to be at home looking at fucking heckle and chuckle cartoons, man. 0.99

01:05:07.000 I don't want to fucking be out here. 0.99

01:05:09.000 But we went to church, man. 0.97

01:05:11.000 So he was super dedicated, you know, to, you know, part of him was super dedicated to what he believed. 0.99

01:05:19.000 And then, you know, you go over to Sister Sally's house to give her a consultation, and I'm looking, and her bedroom door is open, and there's my dad with his fucking t-shirt on. 0.99

01:05:32.000 Sister Sally's in her slip and shit. 0.99

01:05:35.000 And I guess me and my brother were there to be his... 0.99

01:05:39.000 Or, you know, it's an excuse for my mom.

01:05:41.000 If I take them, then nothing could be going on wrong. 1.00

01:05:44.000 I still remember that shit. 1.00

01:05:46.000 I'm like, fuck, what kind of consultation is he doing? 1.00

01:05:51.000 I think right now we're experiencing some of the most insidious aspects of religion in the people attacking people while they're worshiping. 1.00

01:06:01.000 Muslims attacking Christians, Christians attacking Muslims, and it's like In synagogues and Christians attacking Jews. 0.98

01:06:09.000 The whole thing is so insane. 0.99

01:06:11.000 Attacking people while they're worshiping.

01:06:13.000 It is insane. 0.99

01:06:15.000 It's almost this sign of how fucked up things are right now, that this is something that's happening on a regular basis now. 0.99

01:06:21.000 In the name of religion, I mean, what kind of religion would say, this is okay? 0.96

01:06:30.000 I mean, aren't we supposed to love our neighbor as thyself?

01:06:35.000 I mean, the Christchurch one, it's hard to even say that that was about religion.

01:06:41.000 It was more about Yeah.

01:07:06.000 Yeah.

01:07:12.000 Yeah.

01:07:14.000 Yeah.

01:07:24.000 They don't believe like I believe. 1.00

01:07:26.000 Kill hundreds of them. 1.00

01:07:27.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:07:27.000 Crazy. 1.00

01:07:27.000 So I'm going to kill them. 1.00

01:07:28.000 It's insane. 1.00

01:07:29.000 And I don't know how to fix it.

01:07:33.000 I thought the overriding principle of most every religion is love.

01:07:40.000 Yeah.

01:07:40.000 I thought it was supposed to be love.

01:07:43.000 I thought all of them...

01:07:46.000 Taught love.

01:07:47.000 Isn't that the overriding principle of religion?

01:07:51.000 Your religion, doesn't it teach you to love people? 1.00

01:07:55.000 If your religion teaches you to hate people, to go out and kill people, then something's fucked up. 0.99

01:08:01.000 Yeah, it's supposed to be reinforcing this idea of community, that you're all together working towards a goal. 0.99

01:08:08.000 Something's wrong.

01:08:10.000 Yeah, I mean, there's so many issues, right?

01:08:15.000 There's so many issues with poverty, with crime, with all these different things in this world today.

01:08:21.000 But the religion issue and the hatred of other people's religions has got to be one of the strangest aspects of our community or our cultures. 0.56

01:08:31.000 It's so crazy, man.

01:08:33.000 Man, I just want to do everything that I possibly can do.

01:08:39.000 And, you know, I'm just a little guy from Compton.

01:08:42.000 Nobody knows me.

01:08:43.000 Nobody knows. 0.99

01:08:43.000 Who the fuck is C.P. Futcher? 0.99

01:08:45.000 Ain't nobody.

01:08:46.000 But whatever I can possibly do to try to bring people together, man, just come together and lobby the world.

01:08:53.000 I had this saying, we're all the same under the bar.

01:08:56.000 That's my equivalent of trying to, you know, bring people in a weightlifting.

01:09:01.000 Jiu-Jitsu says a similar thing.

01:09:02.000 Yeah.

01:09:03.000 We're all the same.

01:09:03.000 We're all brothers and sisters on the mats.

01:09:05.000 Exactly.

01:09:06.000 That's exactly what it is, man.

01:09:08.000 Yeah.

01:09:08.000 But that's a thing sometimes, you know, when someone has, like, this common struggle.

01:09:13.000 Like, you find out a lot about someone when you lift with them, right?

01:09:16.000 Oh, yeah.

01:09:17.000 When you know that they can do 10 and they start bitching out at 7. Yeah. 1.00

01:09:20.000 Like, come on, bro.

01:09:21.000 That's right, man. 0.94

01:09:22.000 Still you're sick. 0.95

01:09:24.000 Come on.

01:09:25.000 I mean, that's similar.

01:09:26.000 I mean, marathon runners have that sort of camaraderie, that feeling like if someone can actually complete marathons and then ultra marathons, do you have the goods? 0.98

01:09:36.000 No one gives a fuck if you're Chinese or Nope. 0.71

01:09:54.000 I've always said that one of the best ways to stop bullying, and it sounds counterproductive and counterintuitive, but to stop bullying, teach kids how to fight. 0.99

01:10:04.000 They won't do that, man.

01:10:06.000 And the ones who are the strongest, they won't have this need to impose on people.

01:10:12.000 That doesn't exist in jujitsu the way it exists in kids.

01:10:18.000 Because kids are insecure and they have this weapon being bigger or being meaner or being more aggressive and scaring kids and they see someone intimidated and they can't help themselves because they don't have any guidance.

01:10:29.000 No one's taught them the proper way to behave and think.

01:10:33.000 And no one's taught them the consequences of that shitty behavior and thinking. 0.63

01:10:37.000 They just get away with it, they do it, and they don't think that it's hurting anybody. 0.96

01:10:41.000 They don't care.

01:10:42.000 They don't feel it yet.

01:10:43.000 They're just numb to it.

01:10:45.000 They haven't been taught.

01:10:47.000 No, they have not been taught, this is the way that I can stand out.

01:10:51.000 Yeah, and a lot of it is because they need a real cause.

01:10:57.000 They need a real cause.

01:10:58.000 Something real to work towards. 0.99

01:10:59.000 Instead of looking for conflict and some fucking kid is looking at you at the bus stop. 0.99

01:11:03.000 Weird. 1.00

01:11:04.000 Find real conflict.

01:11:07.000 Find something that you could really work towards.

01:11:09.000 And you'll feel better about yourself and you'll feel better about the way you communicate with other people.

01:11:14.000 It's one of the reasons why a lot of people talk about jujitsu like it's a religion.

01:11:17.000 And in some ways, I think it kind of is.

01:11:20.000 Because you learn, not in the bad ways, but in the good ways, that you learn this sense of community through struggle.

01:11:27.000 Right.

01:11:28.000 I think the same thing could be said for weightlifters, too, right?

01:11:31.000 There's a bond you guys have.

01:11:33.000 Oh, man.

01:11:35.000 And it translates.

01:11:36.000 It's so many MMA guys that have come to the gym, and I trained, worked out, and...

01:11:45.000 It's so relatable, the weightlifting world, the fighting world, except you're not getting bust upside the head when you're in the gym.

01:11:55.000 That struggle, though.

01:11:56.000 Yeah, the struggle.

01:11:57.000 Like I saw when you trained Tyron Woodley.

01:11:58.000 Oh, man.

01:11:59.000 Same sort of struggle.

01:12:01.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:12:01.000 And he's another dude that looks like he's on steroids.

01:12:03.000 Yeah, he's just naturally. 0.99

01:12:06.000 He got that fucking beautiful roll of the dice. 0.99

01:12:08.000 Yep. 1.00

01:12:09.000 That genetic roll of the dice.

01:12:10.000 That's exactly right.

01:12:12.000 And by the way, Tyron, if you're listening, you have not been back.

01:12:17.000 And I would like for you to come back there.

01:12:20.000 To do the type of fighting that he does, though, you can't really lift the way you had him lift all the time, right?

01:12:25.000 Oh, no, no, no, no, no.

01:12:27.000 It would just be incorporation.

01:12:30.000 Most fighters just use weightlifting as a tool.

01:12:34.000 Yeah.

01:12:34.000 And just when they come...

01:12:37.000 They want to test themselves when they come and train with me.

01:12:41.000 See what's up.

01:12:41.000 Yeah, I just want to see what I can do.

01:12:45.000 If I can take it.

01:12:46.000 If I can take it or not. 1.00

01:12:48.000 It's still a motherfucking set. 0.99

01:12:50.000 No matter what. 0.99

01:12:51.000 No matter what, Joe.

01:12:53.000 And those guys do really well.

01:12:55.000 Because it's so much mental involved in it, and the minds are tough.

01:13:01.000 The MMA guys' minds are tough, and they do real well.

01:13:04.000 No, you don't get tougher.

01:13:06.000 You just get different.

01:13:08.000 Like I said about ultramarathon runners or anybody who does anything that's extremely grueling and brutal, you don't get tougher.

01:13:16.000 You just find a different path for that sort of toughness.

01:13:20.000 And it always leads through the mind.

01:13:22.000 That path is always tough.

01:13:24.000 Yeah, that whole expression that idle hands or the devil's playthings, that's so true. 1.00

01:13:29.000 That's so goddamn true. 0.85

01:13:31.000 People need something. 0.93

01:13:33.000 They need a cause.

01:13:34.000 They need a struggle.

01:13:35.000 They need something hard.

01:13:36.000 They need something difficult to define themselves through.

01:13:39.000 If they don't, they get scattered and insecure and crazy, but through that struggle, you gain confidence and character.

01:13:46.000 You know who you are.

01:13:48.000 You know who you are, man.

01:13:49.000 You could pull off a workout with C.T. Fletcher, at the end of that fucking workout, you're sitting there on that bench drinking water. 1.00

01:13:57.000 You know who the fuck you are. 1.00

01:13:58.000 You did it. 1.00

01:13:59.000 Yeah, I did it.

01:14:00.000 People need to know that they did it.

01:14:02.000 People need that.

01:14:03.000 They need I did it.

01:14:04.000 You need I did it all the time.

01:14:06.000 You need I did it like five days a week.

01:14:08.000 It's true.

01:14:08.000 If I take a couple days off, I feel like, man, I got to go do something.

01:14:12.000 Yeah, I do.

01:14:13.000 You feel bad.

01:14:14.000 Yeah.

01:14:15.000 You feel bad.

01:14:15.000 I still want Joe to show me how to kick.

01:14:17.000 Yeah.

01:14:18.000 I'll show you how, man.

01:14:19.000 Not now.

01:14:20.000 We'll do it slow.

01:14:21.000 Yeah, let me recover a little more.

01:14:23.000 Yeah, well, the good thing is the best way to learn is slow.

01:14:27.000 Oh, well, I'm ready then.

01:14:29.000 I'll be real slow.

01:14:31.000 Yeah, the real problem with strong people is that they want to put their strength into it. 0.99

01:14:36.000 And you want to really just fucking grunt. 0.92

01:14:40.000 It's hard for strong dudes to learn how to kick properly. 0.99

01:14:44.000 It really is.

01:14:45.000 Well, it's a perfect time for me to learn.

01:14:47.000 Yeah, because they put so much grunt into everything.

01:14:51.000 Oftentimes, they're not pivoting, so they put too much pressure on their leg.

01:14:54.000 They wind up popping their knee. 0.99

01:14:55.000 Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of shit involved. 1.00

01:14:58.000 I seen you kicking, man. 1.00

01:14:59.000 I said, God damn. 0.99

01:15:04.000 Joe's got some of the meanest kicks I have ever seen from anybody. 1.00

01:15:09.000 I'm like, shit, Joe. 1.00

01:15:11.000 I didn't know you could kick that fucking horse. 1.00

01:15:13.000 It's a funny thing. 0.99

01:15:15.000 There's a guy named John Donoher, who's a jiu-jitsu genius, and he came to me once, and it turned out he actually knew, but he was playing it off like he didn't know.

01:15:24.000 He was telling me that he wanted George St. Pierre, who was the interweight champion at the time.

01:15:28.000 You know I know who George St. Pierre is. 0.99

01:15:30.000 One of my fucking favorites, man. 0.99

01:15:32.000 Of course, yeah. 0.99

01:15:32.000 They wanted him to get some coaching on his spinning back kick. 0.99

01:15:37.000 He thinks the fundamentals are a little bit off.

01:15:40.000 Do you know anybody?

01:15:41.000 And I was like, alright, this is going to sound crazy.

01:15:44.000 I know I'm a comedian, and I know I'm just a commentator, but I have a really good spinning back kick.

01:15:50.000 I'm like, I could show you how to do it, and I could show you as good as any human being that's ever lived.

01:15:54.000 I'm like, I could show you how to do that. 1.00

01:15:56.000 That was my shit. 0.96

01:15:57.000 I mean, but when I was a kid, man, it's hard for me to even talk about it now because it seems like a different life, like a different person. 0.99

01:16:06.000 From the time I was 15 till I was 21, I was obsessed.

01:16:11.000 I trained all day, every day.

01:16:14.000 I mean, that's what I did.

01:16:15.000 I basically lived there.

01:16:17.000 And so that's where I developed all that.

01:16:20.000 Obsession.

01:16:21.000 They say it's a bad word.

01:16:22.000 Yeah.

01:16:22.000 I don't think so, Joe.

01:16:23.000 No.

01:16:23.000 I say it's a bad word.

01:16:25.000 Define my life.

01:16:25.000 Yeah.

01:16:26.000 If it's a bad life, you know, I mean, I've had a good life.

01:16:29.000 I've had a good life through obsession. 0.99

01:16:32.000 Damn. 1.00

01:16:33.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:16:33.000 Coin that phrase. 1.00

01:16:35.000 I've had a good life through obsession. 1.00

01:16:37.000 I'm careful with that shit. 1.00

01:16:38.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:16:39.000 Like a bad dog. 1.00

01:16:40.000 I keep that motherfucker on a leash and I keep it away from the wrong people. 1.00

01:16:43.000 Ooh. 1.00

01:16:44.000 Yeah.

01:16:45.000 Batman Joe's got some good sayings.

01:16:47.000 You have to be careful. 0.99

01:16:49.000 Like, Jamie knows we've been having problems with this goddamn Quake game. 0.97

01:16:52.000 We play this video game, first-person shooter called Quake, and I have a real problem. 0.97

01:16:58.000 I get obsessed with things.

01:16:59.000 Where I want to play all day long. 0.99

01:17:01.000 I want to play fucking 8-10 hours a day. 0.99

01:17:03.000 I can't. 0.99

01:17:03.000 I don't allow myself to. 0.99

01:17:05.000 But that's the same thing that got me into martial arts when I was a kid. 1.00

01:17:10.000 I have a fucked up brain. 0.99

01:17:12.000 But it's fucked up in a good way. 1.00

01:17:14.000 As long as I know how to guide it, as long as the manager's in the building, the manager is me right now going, hey, hey, hey. 1.00

01:17:21.000 Settle the fuck down. 1.00

01:17:22.000 You got shit to do. 1.00

01:17:23.000 You got a family. 1.00

01:17:24.000 You got stuff to do.

01:17:25.000 You can't just go run off and decide you're going to be a professional this or a professional that because that's what my brain wants to do.

01:17:32.000 My brain wants to find something and go, what's this thing?

01:17:35.000 Okay, let's be the best in the world.

01:17:36.000 We're going to be the best in the world at this.

01:17:38.000 Every day, you're going to wake up and go, hey, [...

01:17:42.000 I gotta pay taxes. 0.99

01:17:43.000 I got shit I gotta do. 0.99

01:17:44.000 You know, I fucking love that, Joe. 0.99

01:17:47.000 Because you are not alone. 0.98

01:17:49.000 No, there's a bunch of us out there.

01:17:51.000 Yeah, it is a bunch.

01:17:52.000 And a whole lot of them are in the UFC. Yeah.

01:17:55.000 But there's a whole lot of them out there in jobs right now.

01:17:57.000 Yeah.

01:17:57.000 Going crazy.

01:17:58.000 Yeah.

01:17:58.000 Going crazy.

01:17:59.000 Like tapping their fingers on their desk. 1.00

01:18:00.000 Just can't wait to get out to what the fuck they want to do when they get off work. 0.99

01:18:03.000 Ain't that something? 0.99

01:18:04.000 I spent fucking 28 years at the post office, man. 1.00

01:18:09.000 I hated every fucking day. 0.99

01:18:11.000 I couldn't wait to get off and, you know, go do what I really like to do, man. 0.99

01:18:16.000 It's a lot of people out there listening that have that same feeling.

01:18:19.000 Oh, man. 0.99

01:18:20.000 Punching the clock every day and they fucking hate it. 1.00

01:18:22.000 I hate it. 0.99

01:18:23.000 You're not alone.

01:18:25.000 Trust me.

01:18:26.000 I hated it for 28 years.

01:18:28.000 Yeah, I hated it whenever I had a job. 0.99

01:18:29.000 Whatever job I had, I fucking hated it. 0.98

01:18:31.000 And I had a bunch of part-time bullshit jobs because I wouldn't take a real job on because I was so scared that if I had like a real nine-to-five and then started getting a career and then have a family, got married, I'd be trapped. 0.99

01:18:41.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:18:42.000 Trapped!

01:18:42.000 That was me.

01:18:44.000 I was definitely trapped.

01:18:45.000 I had kids at home.

01:18:46.000 They had to eat.

01:18:47.000 Yeah.

01:18:48.000 And then you take that time when you get off, and that's your obsession time then.

01:18:52.000 Yeah.

01:18:53.000 And there's a lot of people that live that life. 0.98

01:18:55.000 What I've always told people is before you have all those other things, a mortgage and family and all that other stuff, damn, dude, funnel that energy into you, into what you like. 0.98

01:19:05.000 You could live a wonderful existence. 0.98

01:19:09.000 Yeah.

01:19:10.000 And a charmed life. 1.00

01:19:12.000 If you could do whatever it is, like making knives or fucking painting, whatever the fuck you like to do. 1.00

01:19:18.000 If that's your thing and you think about it all the time, god damn, you gotta find a way to do that. 0.99

01:19:22.000 That is your calling. 0.98

01:19:23.000 Oh, most definitely.

01:19:25.000 Excellent advice from Joe Rogan.

01:19:27.000 He is so, so right, man.

01:19:30.000 And before you get, you know, the wife, the kids, the mortgage, because then you're trapped.

01:19:35.000 Yeah, but...

01:19:36.000 But everyone's mind is so different.

01:19:38.000 There's some people that they don't have that obsessed mind.

01:19:42.000 Their mind is like they're better off running a country store somewhere, just being real friendly to people that come in, being a baker, making good food for folks.

01:19:54.000 There's some people that that's their thing.

01:19:56.000 Everything.

01:19:56.000 That's their calling.

01:19:57.000 And that, you know, that's perfectly fine. 0.68

01:19:59.000 It's the people, you know, people that annoy the fuck out of me.

01:20:03.000 I love you, but to annoy the fuck out of me is people that have no ambition, no drive whatsoever. 0.99

01:20:09.000 I'm just happy not doing shit. 0.98

01:20:11.000 I always wonder about that. 0.97

01:20:13.000 I always wonder, like, what if I got them when they were little?

01:20:17.000 What if I got a hold of them when they were little?

01:20:19.000 And just introduced them to exciting things and rewarded them when they did well and high-fived them and hugged them?

01:20:25.000 You know what I mean?

01:20:27.000 It could possibly change them, yeah.

01:20:29.000 It could possibly change them, yeah.

01:20:30.000 Reinforcement of positive goals and reinforcement of positive experiences.

01:20:36.000 I think there's some people that just, they never got any of that and everything was just work and just drudgery and they'd rather just lay around because that is the alternative to work and drudgery.

01:20:48.000 Wow.

01:20:49.000 I gave a speech and I'm talking about obsession and being driven and all this.

01:20:56.000 And, you know, one of the questions after this guy was asking me, so what if, you know, what if you don't want to do anything?

01:21:03.000 You don't have any goals or obsessions.

01:21:07.000 Could you tell me how to get one? 1.00

01:21:10.000 And I was like, fuck. 1.00

01:21:13.000 How do I tell this motherfucker? 1.00

01:21:17.000 His... 1.00

01:21:18.000 He wanted one.

01:21:19.000 He said he wanted one.

01:21:20.000 I want to find a goal or something.

01:21:22.000 But I don't know you.

01:21:24.000 I don't know you.

01:21:25.000 I don't know.

01:21:25.000 This is the first time I ever met you, and you're asking me how to give you an obsession or give you an obsession.

01:21:34.000 The only thing I can tell you is find something.

01:21:37.000 Do you have anything that you love?

01:21:39.000 Is there anything that you love?

01:21:41.000 Anything that you like?

01:21:42.000 Then, you know, start there, dude. 0.99

01:21:44.000 But if the person looks back at you and says, no, not really, then I'm like, fuck this dude is irking the fuck out of me. 0.99

01:21:56.000 What do you mean to tell me that you don't have any fucking thing that you really... 0.99

01:22:00.000 Nothing. 0.99

01:22:01.000 Nothing comes up.

01:22:03.000 I know.

01:22:04.000 There's some people that have nothing.

01:22:06.000 Yeah.

01:22:06.000 Some people, it is nothing.

01:22:08.000 There is nothing.

01:22:09.000 Absolutely.

01:22:10.000 I love you guys, but you bug the fuck out of me, man. 0.94

01:22:15.000 You bug the fuck out of me, man. 0.98

01:22:17.000 You don't have a cause or a goal or nothing that really... 0.97

01:22:23.000 It excites you that you really want to make a difference. 0.99

01:22:27.000 You're happy being blase and fucking average. 0.98

01:22:33.000 I just want to be a cog, man. 1.00

01:22:37.000 I just want to be a fucking cog. 1.00

01:22:39.000 Do you think that the world needs cogs? 0.99

01:22:41.000 Do you think that some people, like, here's a thought. 1.00

01:22:44.000 Like, not everybody could be a fucking psychopath, right? 0.98

01:22:47.000 Not everybody could be obsessed by things. 0.99

01:22:49.000 The world would be too insane, and regular stuff would never get done, right?

01:22:53.000 Right. 0.98

01:22:53.000 You and I aren't getting regular shit done. 0.98

01:22:56.000 No. 0.99

01:22:56.000 You know? 0.99

01:22:56.000 But how about being the best fucking cog there is? 0.99

01:22:59.000 Right. 1.00

01:23:00.000 I'm going to be the best fucking cog there is, man. 0.99

01:23:03.000 I'm going to support the fuck out of Joe Rogan. 0.99

01:23:06.000 I don't know, man. 0.96

01:23:07.000 I don't know what people...

01:23:08.000 I don't...

01:23:09.000 I would like to...

01:23:11.000 And I think one day we're going to probably be able to experience this through technology.

01:23:15.000 I would like to know how people think.

01:23:17.000 I would like to know, what is going on in someone's head when they experience it?

01:23:23.000 Sometimes things will happen to you in life, and you're just in the worst possible state of mind when it happens.

01:23:30.000 And sometimes it's the best possible state of mind.

01:23:32.000 And sometimes when it's the best possible state of mind, something that should be catastrophic, like, eh.

01:23:37.000 It'll be alright.

01:23:38.000 You know, like the person who did it to you, you're like, look, man, I know you didn't mean to do it.

01:23:41.000 It's alright.

01:23:41.000 Don't worry about it.

01:23:42.000 Take it easy.

01:23:43.000 And then you just drop it and you feel good about it. 1.00

01:23:45.000 And then other times you're like, fuck that guy. 1.00

01:23:47.000 I'm gonna fucking kill that guy. 1.00

01:23:48.000 And it's all in like, how are you wired that day? 1.00

01:23:53.000 How are you coming into it?

01:23:55.000 Are you coming into this with a lot of stress? 0.99

01:23:57.000 Do you got a lot of other bullshit piling up in your life? 0.99

01:23:59.000 Or are you coming into this fresh off a heart transplant? 1.00

01:24:03.000 Where you feel love for the world and you have like a newfound enlightenment where you realize this is all bullshit. 0.99

01:24:11.000 All this nonsense and fighting and arguing for nothing. 0.98

01:24:14.000 Like why?

01:24:15.000 Why?

01:24:16.000 You do you.

01:24:18.000 Enjoy.

01:24:18.000 Relax.

01:24:19.000 Appreciate.

01:24:20.000 It just don't matter.

01:24:21.000 It just ain't that serious.

01:24:23.000 And have passion for your existence and what you enjoy, what you truly love and your friends and camaraderie and fellowship.

01:24:30.000 That's what it's all about.

01:24:32.000 Yeah, and I think they got a whole field of psychologists and psychiatrists.

01:24:39.000 That's their field.

01:24:41.000 And some of the worst, some of the most mentally challenged people I've ever met were psychiatrists.

01:24:50.000 Yeah.

01:24:52.000 I have a theory about that.

01:24:54.000 I have a theory about that.

01:24:55.000 I have a theory about that that's very similar in my theory about cops.

01:24:58.000 You know, I have a deep respect for cops.

01:25:00.000 Me too.

01:25:01.000 And I think it's an insanely difficult job.

01:25:05.000 My same feeling I have for soldiers.

01:25:07.000 Like, you cannot expect someone to just do that with no guidance and no...

01:25:16.000 I think? 1.00

01:25:39.000 If you're a psychiatrist, every day you're dealing with people who are fucked. 1.00

01:25:44.000 Every day. 1.00

01:25:45.000 Everyone's fucked up. 1.00

01:25:46.000 And some of their fucked up is nonsense. 1.00

01:25:48.000 And you just want to grab them and shake them by the collar and get your fucking shit together, man. 1.00

01:25:53.000 What the fuck is wrong with you? 1.00

01:25:55.000 Come on. 1.00

01:25:56.000 You know there's something wrong. 1.00

01:25:57.000 Stop doing what you're doing, stupid! 1.00

01:25:59.000 But you can't even say that. 1.00

01:26:01.000 So you have to go, so Mike, you know, you're still getting tied up by that woman and she still kicks you in the balls. 1.00

01:26:09.000 It's crazy shit that people are into. 1.00

01:26:11.000 Imagine every day you're showing up and everyone's nuts. 1.00

01:26:15.000 Everyone you work with.

01:26:16.000 Yep.

01:26:16.000 You know, I'm very fortunate.

01:26:17.000 I show up here, I get to talk to nice people like you, I hang out with great people like Jamie, and everyone's fun here.

01:26:23.000 It's all nice.

01:26:25.000 My experiences on a daily basis are mostly positive.

01:26:28.000 I go to the comedy store, hang out with comedians, I do jujitsu, hang out with jujitsu guys.

01:26:32.000 It's a fun experience.

01:26:34.000 These are good experiences. 0.99

01:26:36.000 Psychiatrists are just dealing with crazy fucks all day long. 0.99

01:26:39.000 That's their chosen thing to deal with next. 0.99

01:26:43.000 When I was briefly in college, one of the things that I was concentrating on was psychology.

01:26:48.000 Because I was trying to find out what, like I knew there was times when I fought and I was very confident and I knew there was times that I fought that I was a nervous wreck.

01:26:56.000 And I was like why, what is that, that feeling of nerves where you're scared is very compromising.

01:27:01.000 It fucks me with your performance. 0.63

01:27:03.000 Oh, my God. 0.96

01:27:04.000 Yeah.

01:27:04.000 I mean, look, you might get hit.

01:27:05.000 You might lose.

01:27:06.000 This could happen, but to dwell on that is crippling.

01:27:10.000 You've got to be able to accept those consequences, but you also have to not dwell.

01:27:14.000 So you have to be zen.

01:27:15.000 And so I was reading a lot of psychology books and philosophy books, a lot of samurai books. 0.99

01:27:21.000 But one thing I realized in talking to people that were like psychologists or psychology majors, like You're dealing with fucked up people. 0.99

01:27:30.000 Yes. 0.99

01:27:31.000 All the time.

01:27:32.000 Especially psychiatrists.

01:27:34.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99

01:27:34.000 Fucked up people. 0.99

01:27:35.000 And then they're prescribing them drugs. 1.00

01:27:36.000 Like, here you go.

01:27:37.000 Get out of here.

01:27:37.000 Take this.

01:27:37.000 My best buddy.

01:27:38.000 One of my best buddies is a psychologist.

01:27:41.000 It's crazy, man. 0.89

01:27:42.000 He was crazy.

01:27:44.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:27:44.000 Very nice guy, but he was crazy. 0.99

01:27:45.000 I think you get crazy. 0.86

01:27:47.000 Yeah.

01:27:47.000 I think you get crazy dealing with all those people all the time, too, man.

01:27:50.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:27:50.000 I mean, if your day is blocked off, you have your secretary, and then you got patients all day long that are out of their fucking mind. 0.99

01:27:57.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:27:58.000 Very good point.

01:27:59.000 It's a terrible diet.

01:28:01.000 I don't know if you knew, but I used to do tournament fighting.

01:28:09.000 Karate style, right?

01:28:12.000 The reason, what discouraged me or made me know that I didn't want to be a fighter is just what you described.

01:28:18.000 The anxiety.

01:28:19.000 Oh! 0.60

01:28:20.000 Yeah.

01:28:21.000 It was paralyzing.

01:28:23.000 It was paralyzing.

01:28:25.000 Yeah.

01:28:25.000 I mean, I'd be frozen.

01:28:29.000 And it's so crazy.

01:28:31.000 I mean, the last term I was with Ed Parker's International Karate Championships in Long Beach, California.

01:28:38.000 And I'm here in the fight until my feet were stuck.

01:28:43.000 And I was a Taekwondo black belt.

01:28:52.000 Mm-hmm.

01:29:04.000 And I'm like, oh my God, everybody's looking.

01:29:07.000 And there's a bunch of matches going on at the same time, but it felt like everybody was looking at me.

01:29:13.000 And I'm like, man, they're going to watch me do something.

01:29:16.000 My technique's going to be wrong. 1.00

01:29:19.000 I'm just going to fuck up in front of me. 0.99

01:29:21.000 And the fear was paralyzed. 1.00

01:29:24.000 And I'm like, you know, I can't fucking do this. 0.98

01:29:26.000 I'm not cut out to be a fighter, man. 0.98

01:29:28.000 I just can't.

01:29:29.000 The pressure just kicked my...

01:29:32.000 It's a hard thing to overcome.

01:29:34.000 Oh my god.

01:29:34.000 It's hard to sort your way through it.

01:29:36.000 What's really hard for a lot of fighters is coming back from a loss.

01:29:40.000 Oh yeah.

01:29:41.000 They get beat up and smashed and then they have to come back and figure out a way through.

01:29:47.000 Especially a devastating loss.

01:29:48.000 A close decision yet, but a devastating loss.

01:29:51.000 Do you know who Raymond Daniels is?

01:29:52.000 Of course!

01:29:53.000 The GOAT! Did you see his fight this past weekend?

01:29:56.000 Do you see that 720 degree punch?

01:29:59.000 Go to Bellator and find that clip.

01:30:02.000 We won't be able to show it, right?

01:30:05.000 I can show you guys again.

01:30:06.000 Yeah, just show us.

01:30:07.000 For folks who don't know, one of the reasons I brought up Raymond Daniels is Raymond Daniels is a Bellator kickboxing champion now.

01:30:14.000 He lost in devastating fashion to Nicky Holtzkin, who's another world champion, and also to Joseph Valtellini, who's another world champion.

01:30:23.000 So when he was making the transition from karate champion to kickboxing champion, he had some stumbling.

01:30:29.000 Yeah.

01:30:29.000 He didn't go 100% smooth.

01:30:31.000 Right.

01:30:32.000 But that guy's got an iron will.

01:30:34.000 Man, stunt coordinators in movies.

01:30:40.000 Here it is.

01:30:40.000 Watch this.

01:30:41.000 Look at Raymond Daniels' highlights.

01:30:44.000 Look at that. 0.99

01:30:46.000 That's fucking unbelievable. 1.00

01:30:46.000 It's fucking crazy. 1.00

01:30:48.000 He went for a 360 roundhouse kick, the dude wasn't there, and then he continued to spin further, and then boom. 0.99

01:30:54.000 I mean, that is insane.

01:30:57.000 That is such an insane...

01:30:58.000 And to land a punch at the end of that, I mean, that is so bananas.

01:31:02.000 And he landed a spinning back kick to the body right before he did that, too. 0.61

01:31:06.000 Yeah, I mean, he did a thing.

01:31:07.000 Find the thing he did in Glory.

01:31:12.000 He did a jumping side kick, spinning back kick combination where he touched him.

01:31:17.000 He touched him with the front leg and then spun in the air and spinning back kick.

01:31:22.000 There it is right here.

01:31:24.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:31:24.000 I mean, this is fucking crazy. 0.98

01:31:28.000 Watch how he does this. 0.99

01:31:30.000 Let this go.

01:31:32.000 Here it goes.

01:31:32.000 Watch.

01:31:33.000 He touches up.

01:31:33.000 Bang!

01:31:34.000 I mean, that is movie shit. 1.00

01:31:37.000 And to do that to a world-class kickboxer like that. 1.00

01:31:40.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:31:41.000 I mean, the stunt coordinators are looking at...

01:31:44.000 His highlight already goes high.

01:31:45.000 Just so crazy.

01:31:46.000 To come up with fight scenes.

01:31:48.000 This dude, he does stuff that they don't even do in the movies in a real fight.

01:31:53.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:31:54.000 I'm like, man.

01:31:55.000 He's hard to handle.

01:31:57.000 I gave a pep talk or speech to a group of fighters.

01:32:02.000 He was in the group that came out.

01:32:04.000 I got to meet.

01:32:05.000 I was like, man.

01:32:07.000 I was a fanboy big time.

01:32:09.000 Right? 1.00

01:32:11.000 He's a bad motherfucker. 1.00

01:32:12.000 Oh, he's bad. 1.00

01:32:13.000 I love watching those guys and guys like Michael Venom Page, who's another one, who has those karate skills, but then they're learning all the skills of MMA. Yeah.

01:32:22.000 And then you see, man, if you don't know that karate style and he knows MMA, you're kind of fucked because they do shit that's outlandish. 0.99

01:32:30.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:32:31.000 You know Venom Page, right?

01:32:32.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

01:32:33.000 That guy does outlandish shit, man. 1.00

01:32:36.000 Ridiculous. 1.00

01:32:37.000 And he's so long, too, and his timing and movement is so unpredictable, and he can sprint at you, and you don't even... 0.99

01:32:44.000 All of a sudden, bang, he's punching you in the face.

01:32:47.000 You saw that knockout when he knocked out Cyborg and caved his head in with that knee?

01:32:53.000 Dude, caved a man's head in?

01:32:54.000 Yes!

01:32:55.000 I've seen thousands of fights.

01:32:57.000 I never saw a man get his head caved in.

01:32:59.000 Ever.

01:33:02.000 Look at his full head.

01:33:03.000 Look at that.

01:33:04.000 Look at his skull.

01:33:05.000 His head is pushed in.

01:33:08.000 I mean, is that the video above it?

01:33:12.000 Does that show the actual knockout?

01:33:14.000 No, that's not it.

01:33:15.000 Yeah, that is it.

01:33:17.000 But look how he fights too, hands down.

01:33:20.000 Boom! 0.99

01:33:21.000 I mean, that is crazy.

01:33:23.000 If you know how tough that guy is to see him riding in agony like that.

01:33:28.000 I remember his fight with...

01:33:30.000 It was one of the best MMA fights ever.

01:33:33.000 The real muscular guy.

01:33:34.000 He's real muscular.

01:33:35.000 Cyborg's fight?

01:33:36.000 Yeah, Cyborg had a fight with another...

01:33:39.000 Oh, he's kind of on the downhill now, but at one time, he was like the Mike Tyson of MMA. He's built...

01:33:48.000 Oh, I know you know who I'm talking about.

01:33:51.000 Melvin Manhoof?

01:33:52.000 Yes.

01:33:52.000 I knew you knew.

01:33:53.000 Did you see Cyborg and Manhoof?

01:33:55.000 I did see that fight.

01:33:56.000 Was that a fight?

01:33:57.000 That was chaos.

01:33:58.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:33:58.000 Melvin is a motherfucker, man. 1.00

01:34:02.000 He's another one, man. 1.00

01:34:03.000 Man!

01:34:04.000 Yeah.

01:34:04.000 Came from that...

01:34:05.000 He comes from Mike's Gym in Holland, which is a famous kickboxing gym for savages. 0.74

01:34:12.000 Yeah.

01:34:12.000 Just warriors.

01:34:14.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:34:14.000 A young man was a fucking savage. 1.00

01:34:18.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:34:18.000 Yeah, there it is. 1.00

01:34:19.000 Oh, there it is, man. 0.99

01:34:20.000 And Melvin is built like a fucking creep god, too. 0.99

01:34:24.000 He was another one. 0.99

01:34:25.000 Unbelievable power and speed when he was in his prime.

01:34:28.000 But he's not the same anymore, you're right.

01:34:30.000 He's been through so many wars.

01:34:31.000 But man, that dude was super bad.

01:34:34.000 And he always wore those gladiator trucks too. 0.89

01:34:37.000 He's a beast, man. 0.97

01:34:38.000 He's a beast. 0.73

01:34:39.000 But that showed you how tough Cyborg was.

01:34:41.000 Yeah.

01:34:41.000 That was a war.

01:34:42.000 That was in Cage Warriors, I think.

01:34:43.000 Man, that was a war.

01:34:45.000 Yeah.

01:34:47.000 Yeah, man, I've had the privilege of watching so many great fighters fight.

01:34:51.000 It's interesting to watch all the different styles.

01:34:53.000 But the thing that they all have, all the great ones have, they have this unstoppable belief in themselves.

01:35:00.000 Even if they lose, they learn.

01:35:02.000 They lose, they learn, they come back, they get better.

01:35:05.000 One of my favorite interviews was Hoist Gracie.

01:35:09.000 And man, his mentality.

01:35:12.000 He says, you know, I make no plans for after the fight.

01:35:18.000 I love these guys. 1.00

01:35:19.000 This guy's fucking nuts. 0.99

01:35:21.000 I love them. 1.00

01:35:21.000 You're ready to die. 1.00

01:35:22.000 He's not saying that. 0.96

01:35:23.000 He said, I see guys now talking about the after party and meet me over here.

01:35:28.000 He said, no, no, no.

01:35:29.000 I am prepared to die in the octagon.

01:35:37.000 Hell yeah! 1.00

01:35:38.000 I was eating that shit up, Joe! 1.00

01:35:40.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:35:41.000 Because I was prepared to die on the weightlifting platform.

01:35:45.000 The doc says, hey, if you go CT, your air with a valve could burst right there on stage and die in front of all those people.

01:35:53.000 Good.

01:35:56.000 Good.

01:35:56.000 That's the way I want to go, Doc.

01:35:58.000 That's how you have to be.

01:35:59.000 If you want real greatness, you have to be able to give it all away.

01:36:03.000 But to find somebody else is that crazy, too.

01:36:05.000 I was like, man, I thought I was the only one.

01:36:07.000 Did you see the middleweight championship fight between Calvin Gaslam and Israel Adesanya, Stylebender?

01:36:13.000 Did you see that fight?

01:36:14.000 Of course.

01:36:15.000 Right before the fifth round, it was a close fight, and Stylebender came out and just destroyed in the fifth round.

01:36:20.000 But right before that, he said, I'm ready to die.

01:36:23.000 Yes! 0.81

01:36:24.000 I heard that!

01:36:25.000 I heard that! 0.58

01:36:26.000 He's looking at him and goes, I'm ready to die.

01:36:28.000 I heard that, man.

01:36:30.000 You know that?

01:36:31.000 Oh, man.

01:36:32.000 Woo! 0.99

01:36:32.000 Yeah! 0.99

01:36:33.000 Woo! 0.99

01:36:33.000 I was like, yes! 0.99

01:36:34.000 That was one of those just unbelievable moments.

01:36:38.000 And I love Kevin.

01:36:39.000 Kelvin.

01:36:39.000 I love Kelvin.

01:36:40.000 He's a beast, man.

01:36:41.000 It was a great fight.

01:36:41.000 He was also at the talk, the speech that I gave him in R.D. Goat.

01:36:46.000 Kelvin was there.

01:36:47.000 He's a young guy, man.

01:36:48.000 Yeah.

01:36:49.000 He's still a young guy.

01:36:49.000 And he's got a ton of heart.

01:36:51.000 And he really should be fighting at 170. Honestly.

01:36:54.000 Really?

01:36:55.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:36:55.000 I mean, he fought at 170. He just...

01:36:57.000 He likes to eat.

01:36:59.000 Hell of a lot.

01:37:00.000 Hell of a heart.

01:37:01.000 I love that guy, man.

01:37:02.000 Kelvin, if you listen, I love you, man.

01:37:04.000 Kelvin's a beast.

01:37:05.000 He's not even near his full potential yet.

01:37:07.000 I don't think Stylebender is either.

01:37:10.000 Oh, no.

01:37:10.000 He's still a young guy, too.

01:37:12.000 Stylebender is better now than he was in his first fight in the UFC, which was only about 16 months ago.

01:37:18.000 He's better now.

01:37:19.000 He's trouble for anybody, man. 0.98

01:37:21.000 He's an assassin.

01:37:22.000 That guy has...

01:37:23.000 He's probably the most technical striker that's ever fought in the UFC. So technical.

01:37:29.000 Okay, let me ask you about this.

01:37:31.000 I heard a rumor of him and John Jones.

01:37:34.000 No, no, no. 1.00

01:37:36.000 They're just talking shit to each other. 1.00

01:37:38.000 John was talking shit about him and he was talking shit about John. 1.00

01:37:43.000 Maybe they'll fight. 1.00

01:37:44.000 John is way bigger.

01:37:45.000 John's a big man.

01:37:47.000 Yes, I know. 1.00

01:37:49.000 And he's a bad motherfucker. 1.00

01:37:51.000 Well, so is Stylebender, man. 1.00

01:37:52.000 I mean, maybe one day they could fight.

01:37:54.000 But John, I think John's future is in heavyweight.

01:37:57.000 I really do.

01:37:58.000 I think John is going to clean out the light heavyweight division and then move up.

01:38:01.000 And I think he's probably going to try to catch DC before DC steps out.

01:38:05.000 Because DC is going to fight against Stipe Miocic.

01:38:08.000 They're going to have a rematch.

01:38:09.000 And then I think DC versus John Jones.

01:38:12.000 At heavyweight.

01:38:13.000 Yeah, at heavyweight.

01:38:14.000 I think John wants to go up there and take that heavyweight title.

01:38:17.000 But I think DC has a better chance against him at heavyweight.

01:38:19.000 I don't think DC likes cutting weight.

01:38:21.000 I don't think it's good for his performance or his durability or anything.

01:38:25.000 I think... 0.59

01:38:27.000 Judging by his fights with Derrick Lewis, who's a fucking huge guy, and knocking out Stipe Miocic, who nobody's ever been able to do it like that before, the way DC did it. 0.89

01:38:37.000 DC says that heavyweight is just way more powerful, hits harder, takes a punch better. 0.88

01:38:43.000 He's not a tall guy. 0.99

01:38:44.000 He's only 5'11", but he's as wide as his fucking table. 1.00

01:38:48.000 DC's a tank of a man. 0.99

01:38:50.000 And his wrestling ability is just phenomenal. 0.92

01:38:54.000 But that's why it's John so goddamn impressive. 0.81

01:38:56.000 John took him down. 0.94

01:38:58.000 John went right at him with wrestling. 1.00

01:39:00.000 He's like, motherfucker, I'm going to take you down and scare you. 0.99

01:39:03.000 John Jones is my favorite MMA fighter. 1.00

01:39:06.000 If he's not the greatest of all time, he's in a conversation.

01:39:10.000 He's in a conversation.

01:39:11.000 My opinion is that Mighty Mouse Johnson is the greatest of all time, but the caveat is that Mighty Mouse never really fought the caliber of competition that John Jones did.

01:39:22.000 Jon Jones' first fight in the UFC for a title, he's fighting Mauricio Shogun Hua, who is a legend.

01:39:29.000 That's Jon's first fight.

01:39:30.000 Jon opens up with a flying knee.

01:39:32.000 You know what I mean?

01:39:33.000 Oh, a flying knee!

01:39:34.000 That's a legend.

01:39:35.000 You know, chokes Liotta Machida completely unconscious.

01:39:38.000 You know, chokes out Rampage.

01:39:39.000 He just smashed everybody.

01:39:41.000 Jon smashed everybody. 0.99

01:39:43.000 He's only lost one time, and that's a bullshit loss. 1.00

01:39:45.000 Yeah, yeah, it was a bullshit. 1.00

01:39:46.000 It was a bullshit loss. 1.00

01:39:47.000 A disqualification in the fight that he was dominating. 1.00

01:39:49.000 Yep. 0.56

01:39:50.000 He's a freak, man. 0.99

01:39:51.000 He's a real freak. 0.99

01:39:51.000 He most definitely is. 0.99

01:39:53.000 He's my favorite, especially since he told me he listens to my ass. 0.99

01:39:57.000 He said, before I fight, I always listen to you. 1.00

01:39:59.000 I am the one speed CT. Hell yes.

01:40:04.000 He's something special.

01:40:05.000 He definitely is.

01:40:06.000 He really is. 1.00

01:40:06.000 He's something special, and I think he's had some troubles in his life, but I think he's got that shit behind him. 1.00

01:40:13.000 I really do, and I think he's... 0.97

01:40:15.000 You know, I mean, he hasn't had a near-death experience, but I think he's had so many, like, near-career-death experiences that he appreciates it now. 0.99

01:40:23.000 And I also think, to be that good, you gotta be fucking crazy, and I think Jon Jones is fucking crazy, and he's just getting his crazy online. 0.99

01:40:31.000 He's just getting his crazy in order. 0.99

01:40:33.000 Like, keep my crazy under wraps, just keep my crazy together.

01:40:37.000 Yep, keep it together. 1.00

01:40:38.000 But if you're gonna be that good, you gotta be a wild motherfucker. 1.00

01:40:40.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

01:40:41.000 You gotta be wild.

01:40:42.000 Definitely.

01:40:42.000 That's what he is.

01:40:43.000 He's smart, too, though.

01:40:44.000 He's got, like, the perfect combination of things.

01:40:46.000 Like, smart and wild.

01:40:48.000 Yeah.

01:40:48.000 You know?

01:40:49.000 And physically talented.

01:40:50.000 And then long. 1.00

01:40:52.000 Long as fuck for the weight class. 1.00

01:40:54.000 And he's very strong, too, yo. 1.00

01:40:56.000 Oh, yeah.

01:40:57.000 Oh, yeah.

01:40:57.000 I've seen him weightlifting, man.

01:40:58.000 Oh, yeah.

01:40:59.000 I've been trying to get John Jones into the value of the beast, though.

01:41:03.000 He'll go, he'll go. 0.99

01:41:04.000 He's fucking strong, man. 0.98

01:41:05.000 Maybe after the fight with Tiago Santos, he'll have some time off. 0.99

01:41:08.000 But it's interesting, his coaches thought that his powerlifting was a bad idea for him.

01:41:13.000 Apparently not, coaches.

01:41:15.000 Well, they think that he got really into that before the OSP fight.

01:41:19.000 Remember, he had a big stretch of time off, and then the OSP fight, he didn't look as good.

01:41:23.000 But I credit that to OSP. I just think that OSP fought a real hard fight, and he's a real big, strong guy, and he's fucking dangerous. 0.99

01:41:32.000 Yeah. 0.78

01:41:33.000 Ovin is a tough dude, man.

01:41:35.000 He's a tough dude.

01:41:56.000 It's the hardest game in the world.

01:41:57.000 Next to being a cop or a firefighter or a soldier, MMA fighter is the hardest game in the world.

01:42:03.000 Yeah, I totally agree.

01:42:06.000 I'm glad you brought up soldiers because I'm a veteran, I'm a veteran myself, and I, you know, have a lot of PTSD. I was hoping that during the conversation we could get PTSD in there some kind of way because my dad suffered from PTSD big time.

01:42:28.000 He went in the Korean War at age 16. He had a guy signed for him and said he was his dad and he was able to get in for a while like that.

01:42:47.000 I give him a pass on a lot of the crazy shit he did. 0.99

01:42:54.000 Because of that. 0.99

01:42:55.000 You know, he never sit down and had a conversation with me about it.

01:42:59.000 I never talked to my dad for more than five minutes at a time, you know, when I talked to him growing up.

01:43:08.000 Never be more than five minutes at a time, you know.

01:43:12.000 My whole life, my whole life.

01:43:13.000 You know, he died when he was 86. And I'm 50-something.

01:43:17.000 I was 57, 80, somewhere around there before we had a maybe 10-minute conversation.

01:43:23.000 That was just me apologizing to him.

01:43:26.000 For, you know, hating him.

01:43:28.000 Yeah, we talked about this.

01:43:30.000 But he had the, well, they call it a shell shot back then.

01:43:34.000 So it explained to me, it was an explanation for a lot of his over-the-top behavior.

01:43:41.000 I can't imagine myself at 16 being, you know...

01:43:46.000 Gunfire, seeing dead guys all around me.

01:43:49.000 I would have been a mental mess also.

01:43:54.000 So I gave them a lot of...

01:43:56.000 And it's such a problem now, PTSD with soldiers now.

01:44:01.000 They have the 21...

01:44:03.000 Push-ups for the 21 veterans who kill themselves every day from PTSD. So it's a big cause for me.

01:44:13.000 I want to, you know, do everything I can do to try to bring awareness for my fellow veterans out there that are suffering from that, too.

01:44:22.000 So I'm with you guys.

01:44:23.000 I'm with you vets.

01:44:25.000 Yeah, it's what we were talking about before, to ask someone to be able to get through that.

01:44:30.000 Yeah, it's an incredible ask.

01:44:33.000 I want to ask your opinion about something, Joe.

01:44:36.000 Do you think a police chief, or if a guy can be, do you think a guy can possibly rise to police chief without ever having been an officer himself?

01:44:54.000 Doesn't seem like you should be.

01:44:56.000 Okay.

01:44:57.000 Do you think a guy can be a fire chief without ever having been a fireman himself?

01:45:03.000 Doesn't seem like you should be.

01:45:05.000 Do you think a guy can be the commander-in-chief of our armed forces without ever having been a soldier himself?

01:45:12.000 Doesn't seem like you should be.

01:45:15.000 Thank you, Joe.

01:45:17.000 Yeah, I think it's way too easy to be commander-in-chief.

01:45:20.000 Yeah.

01:45:22.000 What if that was a prerequisite?

01:45:25.000 You had to serve?

01:45:26.000 Like in the Israeli army.

01:45:28.000 If you're in the Israeli army, everyone has to serve.

01:45:31.000 There's a certain amount of time everyone has to put in.

01:45:33.000 The South Korean army, same thing.

01:45:35.000 You have to serve.

01:45:36.000 Chan Sung Jung, who's a top-level UFC fighter, took two years off his career because that was the requirement with the South Korean army.

01:45:44.000 They had him serve.

01:45:46.000 I think that if you are going to be able to tell people where they go and that they have to risk their life on a campaign that many people might think is fruitless, or even worse, many people might think is financially motivated and not necessary,

01:46:01.000 and you're asking someone's son to go over there and die for that, you should have some understanding about what you're saying.

01:46:11.000 You should have served.

01:46:13.000 I think it's impossible for you to have a good understanding, a grasp of what you're asking If you haven't experienced it yourself.

01:46:27.000 But now let's go back and look at all the presidents.

01:46:30.000 How many of them served?

01:46:31.000 Barack Obama never served.

01:46:33.000 George W. Bush didn't serve, but Herbert Walker Bush served.

01:46:38.000 And he was actually shot down in World War II. Right.

01:46:42.000 Clinton never served.

01:46:44.000 Nixon never served. 1.00

01:46:46.000 I mean, you've got to get rid of a lot of fucking presidents. 1.00

01:46:49.000 And I think that none of them... 1.00

01:46:52.000 Should have been able to be commander in chief of the armed forces.

01:46:57.000 That's just my feeling.

01:46:58.000 If you didn't serve, you shouldn't.

01:47:02.000 They got plenty of generals that could fill that spot. 0.74

01:47:06.000 I think that they should change whatever they need to change, whatever law, whatever it is to change that.

01:47:12.000 The Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces has to be, has to be, have been a soldier.

01:47:19.000 They have a lot of five-star generals, a lot of guys at the top that have been in the military, that know what they're experiencing.

01:47:27.000 Let them be the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces.

01:47:30.000 These are the 12 presidents who did not serve in the military.

01:47:33.000 So, wait a minute.

01:47:35.000 Nixon did.

01:47:36.000 Nixon served?

01:47:37.000 He's a commander of the Naval Reserve, it says.

01:47:40.000 Oh, Naval Reserve, okay.

01:47:42.000 But Clinton didn't.

01:47:44.000 No.

01:47:45.000 FDR, Hoover, Coolidge, Harding.

01:47:48.000 Interesting.

01:47:49.000 But George W. W. Bush didn't serve, did he?

01:47:54.000 I think he was a reserve for a small period of time or something like that.

01:47:58.000 Oh, that's right.

01:47:59.000 Yeah, there were some shenanigans that got him out of. 0.99

01:48:02.000 I think Trump had like eight deferments, like feet hurt and some shit. 0.99

01:48:06.000 Bone spurs. 0.99

01:48:07.000 Bone spurs.

01:48:08.000 How do you get bone spurs by never working out ever?

01:48:11.000 How does that happen?

01:48:13.000 He's kind of funny, though, man.

01:48:15.000 The not working out thing.

01:48:16.000 He thinks his body's like a battery, and he thinks if you work out, you use up your juice.

01:48:24.000 You've got a finite number of heartbeats or something like that.

01:48:27.000 Is that what he said?

01:48:28.000 Yeah.

01:48:28.000 There's other people that believe that, too.

01:48:29.000 I've looked it up.

01:48:30.000 But they do believe that that's the case.

01:48:32.000 But here's the thing.

01:48:33.000 When you train, it lowers your heart rate.

01:48:36.000 That's what people don't understand.

01:48:37.000 Most definitely.

01:48:38.000 Like Michael Bisping has a 34 beats per minute resting heart rate.

01:48:42.000 Yep. 1.00

01:48:42.000 Most fat fucks out there have like 78, 80. You know, they're wasting. 1.00

01:48:49.000 Marathon runners?

01:48:51.000 Yeah.

01:48:51.000 It's super low.

01:48:52.000 Yeah, and then when you're taking speed, right?

01:48:55.000 Taking diet pills. 1.00

01:48:56.000 He just described me as a fat fuck. 1.00

01:48:59.000 Not you. 1.00

01:48:59.000 His mind is like 78, 80. Yeah. 1.00

01:49:03.000 No, no, no, no, no. 1.00

01:49:04.000 You ain't a fat fuck. 1.00

01:49:06.000 You know what I'm saying? 1.00

01:49:07.000 But I'm a live fuck. 1.00

01:49:08.000 You're alive. 1.00

01:49:09.000 I'm a live fuck. 0.99

01:49:10.000 But even if that is true, I mean, there's no real evidence that that's... 0.99

01:49:15.000 Nah.

01:49:16.000 That is true.

01:49:17.000 Nah.

01:49:17.000 I think...

01:49:19.000 Yeah, I think anybody that is going to tell people that they have to fight for our country should have had to fight.

01:49:26.000 Most definitely.

01:49:26.000 Or at least should have had to serve.

01:49:28.000 Serve.

01:49:28.000 You don't have to necessarily have had military.

01:49:33.000 I mean, it's not your fault if you didn't see action.

01:49:35.000 Right, right.

01:49:36.000 I agree with that.

01:49:37.000 You don't have to be a combat vet, but at least have been willing that when you were called...

01:49:44.000 Yes.

01:49:45.000 To accept the call and step up.

01:49:50.000 Because by doing that, you're saying, and when I sign this piece of paper, I don't know if there's going to be a conflict, there's going to be a war or not, but I'm signing up.

01:49:59.000 If there is, I'm available.

01:50:02.000 I'm here, man.

01:50:03.000 We're always hoping for the best with presidents, but it always disappoints us.

01:50:09.000 No one's been the most amazing president. 0.99

01:50:11.000 No one is ever the one person where you look back and go, man, that motherfucker nailed everything. 0.99

01:50:15.000 They got it right. 0.99

01:50:16.000 They got it right with whistleblowers.

01:50:18.000 They got it right with human rights.

01:50:19.000 They got it right with freedom of speech.

01:50:21.000 They got it right with everything.

01:50:22.000 They got it right with military intervention. 0.97

01:50:24.000 They got it right with regime change wars. 0.98

01:50:26.000 They got it right with everything.

01:50:27.000 They didn't do anything wrong, and man, everybody should be like them.

01:50:32.000 A lot of goofy people look back to Ronald Reagan.

01:50:35.000 They say, oh, Ronald Reagan, he was our guy. 0.99

01:50:38.000 That's just because it's a long time ago and your memory sucks. 0.99

01:50:41.000 I remember when people fucking hated Ronald Reagan, man. 0.99

01:50:44.000 I remember when they were trying to get him out of office. 0.99

01:50:46.000 That one didn't work either.

01:50:48.000 No one's good at the job.

01:50:51.000 Boy, Joe, you're going to get a lot of comments on that.

01:50:54.000 It's true, though. 0.82

01:50:56.000 I think it's an impossible job.

01:50:58.000 To please everybody is always an impossible job.

01:51:01.000 It's an impossibility.

01:51:03.000 I don't know anybody who can do that.

01:51:06.000 Not just please everybody, but the idea that one person is going to oversee every branch of government, the military, the economy, social issues, censorship, big tech, problems with the environment. 0.99

01:51:19.000 Like, what the fuck? 1.00

01:51:20.000 Are you crazy? 1.00

01:51:21.000 How could one person do all that? 0.98

01:51:22.000 It's not possible.

01:51:24.000 No.

01:51:24.000 It's not possible.

01:51:25.000 And do a wonderful job at it all, too.

01:51:28.000 Exactly.

01:51:29.000 Right.

01:51:30.000 I mean, I don't understand how it's even humanly possible.

01:51:36.000 I think that job, there should be a council of wise people that decide things.

01:51:42.000 And we should be able to decide whether or not they're wise.

01:51:47.000 I guess that's what the election in Congress and the Senate, that's supposedly what that was.

01:51:54.000 I guess.

01:51:55.000 Yes, that's what it's supposed to be.

01:51:57.000 It's also like...

01:51:59.000 It's too easy to vote.

01:52:00.000 I mean, it's too easy to just say, ah, that guy, you know, ah, that guy.

01:52:04.000 You should be able to, like, tell me why that guy.

01:52:06.000 Like, what's your reasoning?

01:52:07.000 Does it make sense?

01:52:08.000 Did you think this through? 1.00

01:52:09.000 Or are you just like, that guy's a Republican, I'm a Republican, fuck it. 1.00

01:52:12.000 Is that what you're doing? 1.00

01:52:13.000 Like, what are you doing?

01:52:14.000 Like, you're making these choices and you're throwing your mark on this piece of paper and that could affect the way the world swings.

01:52:20.000 Like, what's the thought process behind it?

01:52:23.000 So you think people should have to explain their votes?

01:52:26.000 I don't.

01:52:27.000 Because I don't think that...

01:52:29.000 I think the right to vote should not be anything that's infringed upon in any way, shape, or form. 0.97

01:52:34.000 But it would be a lot better if people knew what the fuck they were voting on. 0.87

01:52:38.000 It would help. 0.99

01:52:39.000 It would help if they had a real understanding of it.

01:52:42.000 But people don't have the time.

01:52:44.000 That's the other problem, man.

01:52:45.000 You know, we're talking about people slaving away all day.

01:52:47.000 If someone's working all day, eight hours a day, how much time do they really have to research foreign policy?

01:52:52.000 How much time do they have to research what's going wrong with the economy? 0.99

01:52:57.000 Subprime interest rate loans and all that shit. 0.98

01:53:00.000 How much time do people have? 0.99

01:53:02.000 Yeah, they're concerned about what's going on in And their families.

01:53:07.000 And they're trying to get laid.

01:53:09.000 And they're trying to eat.

01:53:10.000 And they want to get to the game.

01:53:11.000 And they got tickets to see this. 1.00

01:53:13.000 All that important shit. 0.99

01:53:14.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:53:14.000 And then the fucking Avengers are out. 1.00

01:53:16.000 Yeah, man. 1.00

01:53:17.000 Three hours long, man.

01:53:20.000 I stayed awake.

01:53:21.000 I haven't seen it yet.

01:53:23.000 I heard it's great.

01:53:23.000 Oh, I stayed awake.

01:53:24.000 I heard it's great.

01:53:25.000 Good enough to keep me awake.

01:53:26.000 That's...

01:53:28.000 That's saying something.

01:53:29.000 I go to sleep all the time.

01:53:31.000 Is it from the heart transplant?

01:53:32.000 Are you sleepier now?

01:53:33.000 No, no.

01:53:34.000 I went to sleep all the time before the heart transplant. 1.00

01:53:37.000 No, I get comfortable, fuck, and it's over, man. 1.00

01:53:40.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:53:40.000 Yeah, it's over. 1.00

01:53:41.000 Well, that's often...

01:53:43.000 The lights are out.

01:53:43.000 That's the thing, too, with people who train a lot.

01:53:45.000 Nobody fucking with me. 0.90

01:53:47.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:53:47.000 If you train a lot, though, you're always ready to take a nap, right? 0.99

01:53:50.000 Oh, yeah, man.

01:53:51.000 Because your body's always, like, recovering.

01:53:53.000 Yeah.

01:53:54.000 I'm out, man.

01:53:56.000 No problem. 1.00

01:53:57.000 But overtraining is bullshit. 1.00

01:53:59.000 You think overtraining is bullshit? 1.00

01:54:01.000 Uh oh. 1.00

01:54:02.000 I know you don't.

01:54:04.000 I bet you think that it's... 0.99

01:54:07.000 Not bullshit. 0.99

01:54:08.000 And overtrain is very real, don't you, Joe? 0.98

01:54:10.000 Yes, I do.

01:54:11.000 Yes, I knew you would say that.

01:54:13.000 You know what rhabdomyelosis is?

01:54:15.000 No, I have no idea what that is.

01:54:16.000 It's when you overtrain and your muscles start breaking down and it pollutes your kidneys.

01:54:20.000 People die from it.

01:54:22.000 Wow. 0.87

01:54:23.000 That's a big-ass, long word. 1.00

01:54:26.000 And if you look in the dictionary, it'll say bullshit. 0.99

01:54:34.000 No, I think there's under-resting, under-recruperation. 0.99

01:54:38.000 That's true. 0.99

01:54:39.000 But overtraining, no, if you get enough rest and enough recuperation, I think overtraining is bullshit. 0.95

01:54:45.000 Right, but if you have to work out hard, and then you have to work out again the next day, and you work out hard the next day, that's rhabdomyelosis piss. 0.98

01:54:52.000 When you get rhabdo, your piss comes out looking like iced tea.

01:54:55.000 Yeah. 0.97

01:54:56.000 And I don't mean the rapper.

01:54:57.000 Yeah.

01:55:00.000 I think he's more than a rapper, though, right?

01:55:01.000 It's hard to say he's a rapper.

01:55:02.000 He's a rapper, actor.

01:55:05.000 He's a cool dude.

01:55:06.000 Yeah, I mean, he has Body Count.

01:55:08.000 That's a metal band, so he has that, too.

01:55:10.000 Yeah.

01:55:11.000 Right, I think he's cool.

01:55:13.000 But, yeah, he looks like Diet Coke.

01:55:15.000 Let's say that. 1.00

01:55:15.000 Yeah, it's fucked. 1.00

01:55:16.000 That's what his piss looks like. 1.00

01:55:17.000 Yeah, it's fucked up. 1.00

01:55:18.000 Yeah, that's... 0.99

01:55:19.000 That's what happens. 0.98

01:55:20.000 And I train every, I work fucking eight hours a day, eight, ten, twelve hours a day at the post office, went to the gym, put in another four to six hours for fucking 25 years and my piss never looked like that. 0.97

01:55:36.000 Yeah, I think that's more endurance athletes, and particularly CrossFit. 0.98

01:55:40.000 A lot of CrossFit people get wrapped up.

01:55:41.000 Oh, yeah.

01:55:42.000 Because they're competing against other people, and they get real wrapped up in it.

01:55:46.000 I gotta ask Jason Khalifa about this.

01:55:48.000 Good friend of mine. 0.93

01:55:49.000 See if his piss ever looked like...

01:55:52.000 Root beer.

01:55:53.000 It's a real issue for crossfitters and ultra-endurance athletes.

01:55:58.000 Yeah, he's one of the top crossfitters.

01:56:01.000 Is he?

01:56:01.000 Yeah, he's like world champion two or three times.

01:56:04.000 Those guys are ridiculously fit.

01:56:06.000 Oh, man.

01:56:06.000 Ridiculously fit.

01:56:07.000 Look, I had him in my gym and I put him through my training. 1.00

01:56:12.000 He did the shit easy. 0.99

01:56:14.000 Like it was nothing? 1.00

01:56:15.000 Yeah.

01:56:15.000 He's fucking that guy.

01:56:17.000 Crossfit me. 1.00

01:56:18.000 You know, we're going to wait with this kind of laugh at crossfitters. 1.00

01:56:22.000 That's, you know, girly shit, man. 1.00

01:56:26.000 Crossfitting is bullshit. 1.00

01:56:27.000 But that motherfucker is in extremely good shape. 1.00

01:56:31.000 Yeah, crossfitting is definitely not bullshit. 1.00

01:56:37.000 It's very hard.

01:56:38.000 What those guys do is very, very, very, very hard.

01:56:42.000 The real question is whether or not it's good for your body.

01:56:45.000 And that's where...

01:56:48.000 That's where, and I'm not qualified to judge, but there's a lot of people that are professional strength and conditioning coaches that frown upon it.

01:56:57.000 Because they think that those kind of movements, like power lifting movements, like clean press, that kind of shit, that should not be done for the maximum amount of repetitions.

01:57:05.000 They think that should be done for power. 0.90

01:57:07.000 You should hoist up your maximum or 85% of your maximum for X amount of times, and that's it.

01:57:13.000 But what they're trying to do is just, you know, if Mike does 10, I want to do 12. Mike does 12, I want to do 15. Steve Maxwell, who's a pretty famous strength and conditioning coach, he frowns upon it and he just thinks those movements are not designed for endurance.

01:57:29.000 Those movements are designed for power.

01:57:32.000 He thinks ultimately it's detrimental for your body.

01:57:35.000 And that if you want to have a long career in fitness and constantly be able to work out deep into your 50s and 60s, he just thinks it's very detrimental for your body.

01:57:45.000 Hmm.

01:57:45.000 Again, I'm not the guy to tell.

01:57:47.000 Right, right.

01:57:47.000 That's true or not true.

01:57:48.000 Me either.

01:57:50.000 I need to get one of those top-level CrossFit guys.

01:57:52.000 I've gone back and forth with Rich Froning.

01:57:54.000 Is that how you say his name?

01:57:55.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:57:56.000 Online, but I never got him on.

01:57:58.000 Oh, yeah.

01:57:58.000 I'm sure Jason would die to be on here.

01:58:03.000 But he is...

01:58:06.000 Exceptionally fit.

01:58:08.000 The long term, I don't know because he's still a pretty young guy.

01:58:12.000 But I have a real bad habit of looking at the people that say those things about athletes like that.

01:58:29.000 I always look at them and And that's a bad habit.

01:58:34.000 I can't help it. 0.98

01:58:35.000 All the people that give all the advice, the weightlifting advice online, I always go and look at their page and see how the fuck they look. 1.00

01:58:43.000 And the overwhelming majority of Instagram coaches are fat fucks. 1.00

01:58:55.000 Yep. 1.00

01:58:57.000 How the fuck can you give advice? 1.00

01:59:02.000 And look like that! 1.00

01:59:03.000 Exactly.

01:59:04.000 How can you?

01:59:05.000 I tell people all the time, I can't tell you or anybody how to get through anything if I've never been through anything myself. 0.98

01:59:17.000 I can't tell you how to overcome an obstacle if I never overcame any fucking thing. 0.99

01:59:23.000 And I can't tell you how to be in shape if I look like a fat fuck. 1.00

01:59:28.000 I just can't do it. 0.99

01:59:29.000 And I have a bad habit of looking at that person and, you know, examining them.

01:59:35.000 First, if you're going to give me this kind of advice, then I have to, you know, I got to look at your page, Joe. 0.99

01:59:42.000 I got to see them pictures and shit you've been posting, man. 0.99

01:59:46.000 Now, if I want to know, that's why I'm asking Joe Rogan to show me how to kick because I've seen this motherfucking kick. 1.00

01:59:52.000 And he kicks like a fucking mule, man. 1.00

01:59:56.000 I want to learn how to kick from That guy. 1.00

01:59:59.000 I want to see somebody kicking through walls and shit. 1.00

02:00:02.000 Joe Rogan. 1.00

02:00:03.000 If you have not seen Joe Rogan kick, look it up.

02:00:07.000 That is one kicking SOB. Joe Rogan kick his ass off. 1.00

02:00:14.000 Yeah, I think you got a good point about the people that criticize. 0.99

02:00:17.000 Like, some people criticize people that work too hard because they don't want to work that hard.

02:00:21.000 Like, you don't need to work that hard.

02:00:22.000 Yeah.

02:00:23.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:00:23.000 I don't trust trainers that look like shit. 1.00

02:00:25.000 Oh, fuck. 1.00

02:00:26.000 And it's a gang of them, too. 1.00

02:00:28.000 A gang of them.

02:00:29.000 Some of them are pretty popular.

02:00:31.000 Yeah.

02:00:31.000 And I see them, I'm like, what kind of body is that?

02:00:33.000 How do you get a fucking client with a body? 0.99

02:00:36.000 They gotta be great talkers. 1.00

02:00:38.000 They must have good degrees in physiology and this and that.

02:00:43.000 They must, man.

02:00:45.000 Look at them.

02:00:46.000 They look doughy.

02:00:47.000 I don't like what their chin looks like.

02:00:50.000 Their neck looks too skinny.

02:00:53.000 I came when I first got on YouTube. 1.00

02:00:54.000 I'm fucking talking shit about them guys. 0.99

02:00:56.000 I couldn't get a job as a personal trainer. 1.00

02:00:59.000 I had all these fucking world championship certificates and shit. 0.99

02:01:02.000 And they told me, you're not certified by this, not certified by that. 0.99

02:01:05.000 We can't use you. 1.00

02:01:08.000 And I'm like, fuck. 1.00

02:01:11.000 You're a personal trainer? 1.00

02:01:13.000 And this guy looked like he had never seen the insider, never even drove by a fucking gym. 1.00

02:01:19.000 And he's a fucking, you're the head personal trainer here? 0.99

02:01:22.000 I wonder if someone could be a good trainer without ever really working out hard themselves. 0.99

02:01:27.000 Isn't that sort of similar to someone saying that someone shouldn't be the commander-in-chief without having served?

02:01:33.000 It's very similar.

02:01:35.000 It's very simple.

02:01:36.000 If I'm going to work out, I want to work out with someone who's built like you. 0.99

02:01:39.000 I want to work out with someone who's built like, oh, this motherfucker's lifted some weights. 0.99

02:01:43.000 They understand. 0.99

02:01:44.000 They know what it takes to get big.

02:01:46.000 They know what it takes to get strong.

02:01:48.000 It's like...

02:01:49.000 Not just in theory.

02:01:51.000 Yeah.

02:01:51.000 It's like, would you hire a boxing coach that's never been a boxer?

02:01:57.000 He's never been in the ring.

02:01:59.000 He's never...

02:02:01.000 It doesn't seem wise.

02:02:02.000 No, I couldn't do that.

02:02:04.000 I couldn't do that.

02:02:05.000 The interesting thing is some trainers are just really good martial artists and they never have competed.

02:02:11.000 I don't understand how that works, though.

02:02:13.000 It doesn't make sense to me.

02:02:15.000 And then they would say that their skill is in teaching things, it's not in fighting itself.

02:02:21.000 But I think...

02:02:22.000 Some of the best fighters, or the best coaches, or there have been fighters.

02:02:27.000 Yeah.

02:02:27.000 Some of the best.

02:02:28.000 Yeah, I totally agree.

02:02:30.000 Because they know...

02:02:32.000 What the fighter's going through.

02:02:34.000 And that's part of it.

02:02:36.000 It's not just the skill, the techniques, the kicks, the punches.

02:02:41.000 It's not just that.

02:02:42.000 They know everything because they've been there.

02:02:45.000 They know everything from the ring walk to what it's like when it gets hard, when you're down on the cards.

02:02:53.000 They know that.

02:02:55.000 They've experienced that.

02:02:56.000 And a guy that's never been through that, You'll be lost in that situation. 0.99

02:03:02.000 You don't know what the fuck to tell you. 0.99

02:03:04.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.99

02:03:06.000 I mean, I think that's with most things in life, right?

02:03:08.000 Yeah.

02:03:09.000 If someone's going to give you advice on something, they better have some actual real-world experience.

02:03:13.000 Yeah, I think so. 0.96

02:03:14.000 I think it's a necessity, but what the fuck do I know? 0.99

02:03:17.000 You know a lot, man. 0.99

02:03:18.000 I'm just this kid from Compton.

02:03:21.000 Well, I ain't a kid, but I'm just this old guy from Compton.

02:03:24.000 Yeah.

02:03:25.000 But a lot of good stuff comes out of Compton, man.

02:03:27.000 Dr. Dre came from Compton.

02:03:29.000 A lot of good stuff comes out of pressure.

02:03:31.000 Yeah, for sure.

02:03:32.000 Compton's pressure.

02:03:33.000 Yep, that is definitely pressure.

02:03:35.000 Bad things come out of it as well.

02:03:37.000 Oh, yeah.

02:03:37.000 You know, I mean, it's not ideal.

02:03:39.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:03:40.000 But damn, if you can make it through. 1.00

02:03:41.000 Oh, man. 1.00

02:03:43.000 It's a crazy thing, like, you don't want your children to suffer. 0.98

02:03:47.000 But the people who do suffer, god damn, they come through with some incredible character. 0.96

02:03:52.000 Yeah. 0.98

02:03:54.000 It's a conundrum, right?

02:03:55.000 Wow!

02:03:56.000 Yes, it's such a...

02:03:59.000 I think that people tell me, Joe, people tell me I get letters and DMs and stuff from people from all over the planet and so many different races, Russian, Ethiopian,

02:04:15.000 people from Sri Lanka, everywhere.

02:04:18.000 Hey, CT, it was something about your story.

02:04:22.000 If it was your childhood, your health problems, how...

02:04:28.000 You went through that and overcame, gave me inspiration to go through my problems.

02:04:37.000 That is the best feeling in the world, Joe.

02:04:42.000 And when I hear that, I'm like, everything I had to go through or everything I went through, I... I didn't volunteer to die.

02:04:51.000 I mean, it wasn't my choice. 0.97

02:04:53.000 If I had a choice, I'd have been perfectly fucking healthy.

02:04:56.000 But going through it, if it could help that guy in Sri Lanka, that guy in Russia, the guy in Prague, the guy in Ireland, if it could help them, then it was so worth it. 0.91

02:05:09.000 It ain't even funny.

02:05:10.000 I'd do it all over again tomorrow.

02:05:14.000 Mm-hmm.

02:05:16.000 Just because this guy says that it helped me get through something.

02:05:22.000 Inspiration.

02:05:23.000 Oh, man.

02:05:24.000 Inspiration is very, very, very valuable.

02:05:27.000 Very valuable and really hard to...

02:05:29.000 I mean, it's hard to quantify.

02:05:31.000 If you had to explain inspiration to someone who's never experienced it...

02:05:34.000 Like, someone else doing something good makes you feel like you can do something good?

02:05:39.000 Seems like it shouldn't.

02:05:40.000 It shouldn't have anything to do with you.

02:05:42.000 But it does.

02:05:43.000 It does.

02:05:47.000 We go to do these expos and stuff, and people come, and some people wait in line two or three hours.

02:05:56.000 To shake my hand.

02:05:58.000 And I think that's so crazy, Joe. 0.99

02:06:02.000 I mean, who the fuck am I? Who am I? I am nobody. 0.99

02:06:09.000 I'm nobody.

02:06:10.000 I ain't done nothing.

02:06:11.000 Well, stop and think about this.

02:06:13.000 Many of your videos have, like, more than a million views.

02:06:15.000 Yeah.

02:06:16.000 Yeah, that's crazy.

02:06:17.000 You're not nobody.

02:06:18.000 It's crazy.

02:06:20.000 But that's not nobody.

02:06:21.000 Like, everybody's somebody, right?

02:06:23.000 I mean, that's an old saying.

02:06:24.000 Yeah.

02:06:24.000 The reality is, you have reached out with your videos and touched...

02:06:31.000 And if you saw a million people in front of you, you'd freak the fuck out, right?

02:06:35.000 Well, that's more than that.

02:06:36.000 You've touched many more than that.

02:06:38.000 Millions and millions of people.

02:06:39.000 It is absolutely crazy to me, Joe.

02:06:42.000 I just can't. 0.99

02:06:44.000 Because the first video I get on YouTube, I go, hey, look, I don't give a fuck if you listen to me or not. 0.98

02:06:51.000 Who would listen to somebody who says that? 0.99

02:06:53.000 Me!

02:06:54.000 Me, I listen to you. 1.00

02:06:55.000 Like, turn me the fuck off. 1.00

02:06:56.000 I don't give a fuck. 1.00

02:06:58.000 And I'm kidding, a fucking million people looking at that shit. 1.00

02:07:02.000 And I'm like, man, it's just so crazy. 0.99

02:07:05.000 Because, like I said, I consider myself the least of the least, the lowest of the lowest, the bottom of the barrel.

02:07:11.000 And I'm just, you know, people say, LCT, you're the greatest.

02:07:16.000 You're a king.

02:07:18.000 You're a god.

02:07:19.000 I went, no I'm not.

02:07:20.000 I ain't none of that stuff.

02:07:22.000 I'm nothing, man.

02:07:23.000 I'm absolutely nothing.

02:07:25.000 Well, that's not true either.

02:07:26.000 What you are is an exceptional person.

02:07:28.000 The thing about exceptional people is they're self-critical.

02:07:31.000 And one of the reasons why you got to be so good at what you chose to be obsessed by is that you worked hard to constantly improve.

02:07:40.000 So when you're constantly working hard to improve, you're not thinking, I'm the best, I'm the best. 0.98

02:07:45.000 You're like, god damn, I gotta go to work. 0.98

02:07:47.000 I gotta get this in. 0.99

02:07:48.000 I gotta get this done.

02:07:49.000 And so when people tell you you're great, you're like, I'm working.

02:07:53.000 I'm over here working.

02:07:54.000 I'm trying to get better.

02:07:56.000 Great, man.

02:07:57.000 That's inspiring to people, though.

02:07:59.000 The thing about what inspiration does to people, it's almost like a type of intangible fuel.

02:08:06.000 Oh, man.

02:08:07.000 It can change lives.

02:08:10.000 Joe, people come to me and in the line, they kind of tell me, A grown man, he starts crying.

02:08:19.000 Gets down on his knees.

02:08:21.000 You might want to stay away from that guy.

02:08:23.000 This guy's crying.

02:08:24.000 He gets down on his knees and tells me, oh, CT, you changed my life.

02:08:30.000 You kept me from committing suicide.

02:08:34.000 I've heard that story that because of me, they didn't take their own life at least a hundred times.

02:08:43.000 Yeah.

02:08:45.000 Joe Rogan, what I have gone through to save...

02:08:50.000 If these people are saying that I saved their life because I didn't give up, because I didn't...

02:09:00.000 Give in.

02:09:01.000 Because I kept the faith and kept going.

02:09:04.000 I was going to do that anyway, Joe.

02:09:06.000 That's just me.

02:09:07.000 Right.

02:09:08.000 But it changed their life for them to tell me something like that. 1.00

02:09:11.000 I'm like, fuck, I'll do this shit all over again tomorrow. 0.98

02:09:15.000 Well, you know, it's like what we were saying earlier about people that don't have anything that they're inspired by. 0.99

02:09:22.000 And I was saying, maybe I wish I saw them when they were young.

02:09:26.000 Like, maybe if you got a hold of them when they were young, you could teach them the value of expressing themselves and competing or doing something where you get positive feedback from your effort.

02:09:37.000 And I think that some people, they just...

02:09:42.000 I think?

02:09:59.000 And that gift, we model ourselves after other successful people.

02:10:03.000 We do it all the time.

02:10:03.000 Either, hopefully, if everything goes great, you model yourself after your parents.

02:10:07.000 Or you model yourself after your uncle, your brothers and sisters, or whoever it is that's around you that seems to be exceptional.

02:10:13.000 And that fuels people.

02:10:14.000 It helps people.

02:10:15.000 It means a lot to people.

02:10:17.000 Sometimes people don't have that, so they've got to look inward.

02:10:19.000 You know, it's like that old Whitney Houston song.

02:10:22.000 You know...

02:10:24.000 Everybody's Searching for a Hero song.

02:10:27.000 It was like on the Muhammad Ali life story.

02:10:32.000 The original version of that song was like a docudrama on Muhammad Ali's life.

02:10:42.000 But that sometimes you don't find someone for a long time, and then when you do, it changes your whole life. 0.85

02:10:52.000 You find someone, maybe it's just a YouTube video, and it's you saying it's still your motherfucking set, and it's you just pushing people and telling people to go get after it. 0.77

02:11:02.000 And people see that, and all of a sudden it's like they get goosebumps, their heart starts racing. 0.97

02:11:07.000 It's like you gave them a drug, like you gave them fuel.

02:11:11.000 And then they want to change their life.

02:11:13.000 Then they want to watch you tomorrow.

02:11:14.000 Then they want to watch you when they're at lunch break. 1.00

02:11:15.000 They want to watch you when they're taking a shit. 1.00

02:11:17.000 They want to watch you on their phone. 1.00

02:11:18.000 But that's fuel.

02:11:20.000 And you literally can change a person's life through that.

02:11:23.000 Because we need each other.

02:11:25.000 I mean, it's one more piece of evidence that we need each other.

02:11:30.000 And that we have this sort of very strange, loose-fitted community of all human beings together.

02:11:36.000 Yeah.

02:11:37.000 When someone like you does something that's exceptional and says something that's exceptional and has these inspirational words, it can change a person's whole life, change their whole path, change who they are.

02:11:48.000 I've gotten so many messages from people that say, I lost 130 pounds.

02:11:53.000 You know, I did this.

02:11:53.000 I got off sugar.

02:11:54.000 I'm fucking running every day. 0.98

02:11:56.000 I hit the gym five days a week now. 0.98

02:11:59.000 I'm a different person.

02:12:00.000 I'm drinking water.

02:12:01.000 I'm exercising.

02:12:02.000 I take vitamins.

02:12:04.000 I'm eating healthy.

02:12:05.000 I got more juice.

02:12:06.000 I got more energy.

02:12:07.000 My whole life is different now.

02:12:09.000 I'm more positive.

02:12:10.000 Because of you?

02:12:10.000 Yeah, it happens all the time.

02:12:12.000 But how does that make you feel?

02:12:15.000 Obligated.

02:12:18.000 You know, no.

02:12:19.000 I know exactly what you mean.

02:12:20.000 You feel like you have to keep going.

02:12:22.000 You can't fail.

02:12:22.000 Yeah.

02:12:23.000 You can't fail.

02:12:24.000 You can't.

02:12:24.000 Because now you've got all these people who are looking up to you.

02:12:30.000 Yeah.

02:12:30.000 I don't want that.

02:12:31.000 I definitely don't want anybody looking up to me.

02:12:33.000 But I do like people being inspired.

02:12:35.000 And if people get inspired by me, I'm happy.

02:12:38.000 But, you know.

02:12:39.000 They do, Joe.

02:12:40.000 They're looking up to you.

02:12:42.000 You can't help it, man.

02:12:44.000 You can't help it.

02:12:47.000 I always say it all the time.

02:12:50.000 I'm nobody.

02:12:51.000 I'm nobody.

02:12:51.000 Don't look at me, man.

02:12:52.000 Don't look at me.

02:12:52.000 I talk about a higher power.

02:12:54.000 Look at the higher power, man.

02:12:55.000 Don't look at me. 0.99

02:12:56.000 We fucking need each other, man. 1.00

02:12:57.000 We all need each other. 0.99

02:12:58.000 We really do.

02:12:59.000 There's something beautiful about that, though.

02:13:01.000 You can't just go it alone.

02:13:04.000 You really do need each other. 0.78

02:13:06.000 And if you accomplish everything you ever want to accomplish, but nobody's there with you, nobody cares, nobody likes you, that don't mean shit. 0.99

02:13:14.000 It's useless. 0.99

02:13:15.000 Absolutely.

02:13:16.000 Love is the most important thing, and that sounds so cliche, but without love, it's all useless.

02:13:22.000 It's all useless.

02:13:24.000 There's no personal satisfaction in accomplishments if nobody loves you.

02:13:27.000 You're not going to enjoy it.

02:13:29.000 Yeah, at least your family.

02:13:31.000 Yeah, everybody.

02:13:33.000 And the more you can spread positive energy, the more people will love you.

02:13:37.000 The more you'll have that community of love.

02:13:39.000 You know, that's...

02:13:41.000 It's just, like I told you, Joe, I never expected even, you know, live past 40. People tell me, I always think about, I'm the little kid that used to...

02:13:56.000 Hide in the closet when I would hear my dad's keys rattling the door or this car pull up in the door.

02:14:04.000 I would hide in the closet or try to hide me.

02:14:06.000 I didn't want him to see me.

02:14:08.000 I didn't want him to...

02:14:09.000 I'm that kid, dude.

02:14:12.000 So...

02:14:12.000 And my dad would always tell me that, you know, you're never going to be nothing.

02:14:17.000 You're never going to do this.

02:14:18.000 You're never going to...

02:14:19.000 And so I'm that kid. 0.99

02:14:21.000 So that still fucks with you? 0.99

02:14:22.000 Oh, it had to come from... 0.99

02:14:23.000 No...

02:14:25.000 I'm reminded of it.

02:14:26.000 I think about that when people tell me, oh, you're great, CJ. Oh, man.

02:14:33.000 I come from...

02:14:34.000 I'm you, man.

02:14:36.000 I wash dishes.

02:14:38.000 I cut grass.

02:14:39.000 I pump gas.

02:14:41.000 I'm those people.

02:14:43.000 You know, I bussed tables as a kid.

02:14:46.000 I did all those things, too.

02:14:48.000 Yeah.

02:14:48.000 I know what you mean.

02:14:50.000 The people that are saying that I'm great.

02:14:52.000 I'm like, oh, man, I'm you.

02:14:53.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:14:54.000 I'm you.

02:14:55.000 Yeah.

02:14:56.000 I'm not anything other than you.

02:14:59.000 That's so important for people to hear, though.

02:15:01.000 That they are you, but that they can be someone like you, too, if they put in the kind of time and effort that you put in.

02:15:06.000 That's the real message.

02:15:07.000 The real message is we all started from... 1.00

02:15:09.000 I mean, we all had bullshit jobs. 1.00

02:15:11.000 We all felt like losers. 1.00

02:15:13.000 But...

02:15:13.000 Through time and effort, you build a stronger human.

02:15:18.000 You build a stronger body.

02:15:20.000 You build a stronger mind.

02:15:21.000 You build accomplishments and will and momentum.

02:15:24.000 And then you look back and you go, hey man, I'm not washing tables anymore.

02:15:28.000 I'm not washing dishes.

02:15:30.000 I'm not cutting lawns.

02:15:32.000 I'm not digging ditches.

02:15:34.000 I'm a different person now.

02:15:36.000 But I used to be.

02:15:37.000 And the desire not to be there, but not to stay there.

02:15:41.000 That's the hardest part, right?

02:15:43.000 Is to get out of that rut. 0.99

02:15:44.000 When you ain't got shit and there's nothing going on, to have faith then is so difficult. 0.98

02:15:49.000 To have faith when you're successful, it's like, yeah. 1.00

02:15:52.000 Listen, bitch, you've been successful for a while. 1.00

02:15:53.000 Of course you got faith. 1.00

02:15:54.000 Just keep doing what you're doing.

02:15:56.000 That's easy.

02:15:57.000 Absolutely right.

02:15:57.000 That's the easy part.

02:15:58.000 It's like you already got up the hill.

02:16:00.000 Now you're just coasting.

02:16:01.000 Yeah.

02:16:01.000 You know, you're just rolling down the hill.

02:16:03.000 Everything's great.

02:16:04.000 That's the easy part.

02:16:05.000 It's all smooth sailing.

02:16:06.000 Yep. 1.00

02:16:06.000 The hard part is getting up that fucking hill. 1.00

02:16:09.000 Especially if you got a dad you're hiding from. 1.00

02:16:11.000 Especially if you feel like you're a loser. 0.68

02:16:13.000 You never really had anything in your life that you could look back on and say, hey, I was really good at that. 0.64

02:16:18.000 And there's a lot of people out there listening to this.

02:16:20.000 There's so many people that are in that starting point.

02:16:24.000 Like the people that come up to you and say, I don't know what to do.

02:16:27.000 What should I do?

02:16:28.000 How do I do it?

02:16:29.000 How do I get going?

02:16:30.000 Well, you're going to have to figure it out one foot in front of the other.

02:16:33.000 You're going to have to find a thing and keep working at it and get better at it.

02:16:38.000 That's one of the things that I like so much about martial arts.

02:16:40.000 They let anybody in. 0.90

02:16:42.000 Anybody in, and then from that, from learning how to do that, you get better, and then you realize, damn, I can get better at anything. 0.68

02:16:50.000 The first time I ever did jujitsu, I remember just being manhandled so bad, going, man, I'll never be good at this.

02:16:56.000 This is terrible. 0.98

02:16:58.000 I'm fucking awful at this. 0.99

02:16:59.000 And this is when I'd already been a black belt in Taekwondo and already kickboxed or did a bunch of shit. 0.99

02:17:03.000 And I was like, I can't believe I'm starting from scratch again. 0.95

02:17:06.000 But that, at least I knew then that I already had done that before.

02:17:11.000 I'd already started from scratch.

02:17:13.000 So I had some experience and started from scratch.

02:17:15.000 I'm like, all I have to do is just put in the time and the effort here.

02:17:17.000 The desire to get better.

02:17:20.000 Yeah, that's for everybody.

02:17:21.000 Just find a thing.

02:17:22.000 Everything.

02:17:23.000 And if you find a thing, particularly martial arts, because you get belts and ranks, and then you can see how you're doing with opponents, especially jujitsu.

02:17:32.000 I like that one the most, because you're not getting hit.

02:17:34.000 I think there's so many people that, especially if you go to a bad gym, in the early days, people are going to tune you up.

02:17:40.000 Yeah.

02:17:41.000 They're going to beat you up.

02:17:42.000 Yep.

02:17:43.000 You can get some real damage from that.

02:17:45.000 Yeah, that would discourage a lot of people.

02:17:46.000 Yeah, but if you could just find a thing and work hard at that thing, you'll realize through that thing that you can get good at anything with time and effort.

02:17:55.000 And it don't happen.

02:17:56.000 I mean, you pick the thing.

02:17:58.000 Yeah, pick the thing.

02:17:59.000 Pick the thing.

02:18:00.000 Whatever the thing calls to you.

02:18:01.000 Whatever calls to you.

02:18:03.000 Yep.

02:18:03.000 The desire to change, to not, to change those circumstances, whatever they might be.

02:18:10.000 Yeah.

02:18:11.000 As long as you have, you have to have that desire, the will to change those circumstances.

02:18:16.000 Yeah.

02:18:17.000 That's your start right there, man.

02:18:19.000 You know how bleak it may seem, but if you have the will, the desire to change it, there's your starting point.

02:18:25.000 Since you started doing these videos on YouTube to now, how much of a difference has it made in the types of people that come to your gym and the numbers of people that come in?

02:18:39.000 I have Joe Rogan's phone number.

02:18:43.000 I have Terry Crews' phone number.

02:18:46.000 I have Dr. Dre's phone number.

02:18:48.000 Yeah, I saw you.

02:18:49.000 You took a lot of pictures with Dr. Dre recently.

02:18:52.000 You've been hanging out with him a lot?

02:18:54.000 Dr. Dre, I know you guys look at the news and you might see, hey, don't say nothing bad about Dr. Dre in front of me.

02:19:03.000 Dr. Dre is an incredible individual.

02:19:07.000 Incredible.

02:19:08.000 Dr. Dre, I call him Dre now.

02:19:11.000 Dre is an incredible individual.

02:19:14.000 His heart is huge.

02:19:18.000 Huge, Joe.

02:19:19.000 I can't tell you how huge, because he told me not to.

02:19:21.000 There he is with you.

02:19:23.000 He's an incredible individual.

02:19:26.000 He was jacked at one point in time, right?

02:19:28.000 Yes.

02:19:28.000 He got huge.

02:19:29.000 Yes, he did.

02:19:31.000 He still looks great.

02:19:32.000 He told me he's in very good shape right now.

02:19:34.000 He's a lot of cardio, eats really well.

02:19:37.000 Matter of fact, he's got this trail he wants me to, he challenged me to try hiking up a hill, and I'm not ready for it, Joe. 0.98

02:19:45.000 But Dr. Dre, if you're listening, I'm going to make it up that fucking trail. 0.92

02:19:51.000 I might have to roll down, but I'm going to make it up. 0.99

02:19:55.000 He's in great shape, but he's a great human being.

02:19:58.000 He's a very good human being.

02:20:01.000 That's awesome to hear.

02:20:02.000 I love hearing that.

02:20:03.000 Yeah, just down to earth.

02:20:05.000 So he shifted his training from like just, he got really big at one point in time.

02:20:10.000 I saw him at the comedy store one night and he looked like the rock.

02:20:13.000 Yeah!

02:20:14.000 He was huge.

02:20:15.000 Huge, exactly.

02:20:16.000 He's more health-oriented and cardio.

02:20:22.000 He said his goal is to get down to 200 pounds of just lean, low-body fat percentage muscle.

02:20:30.000 What does he weigh now?

02:20:31.000 210, I think he said.

02:20:33.000 And with me and him, around the same weight.

02:20:35.000 And my goal is also to get down to 200 pounds.

02:20:38.000 I want to be 200 pounds, which I haven't been in a long time, but I want to be 200 pounds.

02:20:42.000 Well, there's pictures of you when you were powerlifting.

02:20:44.000 Yeah.

02:20:44.000 Were you?

02:20:45.000 Yeah, 325. You were 325?

02:20:48.000 325. Oh, my God.

02:20:49.000 At my height, man.

02:20:51.000 Wow. 0.99

02:20:52.000 Man, I ain't the tallest motherfucker in the world, so, yeah. 0.99

02:20:55.000 You were as wide as a building, though. 0.98

02:20:56.000 Yeah, I was pretty big. 1.00

02:20:57.000 God damn. 0.99

02:20:58.000 325 is so big. 1.00

02:21:00.000 325. So you were 115 pounds heavier than you are now?

02:21:04.000 Yeah, mm-hmm.

02:21:05.000 Whew! 0.99

02:21:05.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:21:06.000 So you see why I feel like I'm a skeleton now.

02:21:10.000 I feel like a skeleton now compared to this, man.

02:21:15.000 Just stop and think of that.

02:21:17.000 115 one-pound steaks.

02:21:19.000 Just slap, [...

02:21:22.000 All that meat.

02:21:23.000 Just a lot of meat, man.

02:21:24.000 All that meat just everywhere.

02:21:26.000 Yeah.

02:21:26.000 Shoulders.

02:21:27.000 And I didn't care.

02:21:29.000 I'd almost pass out tying my shoes.

02:21:33.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:21:34.000 Get out of breath, walk into the front fucking door. 1.00

02:21:37.000 I'm like, oh, fuck. 1.00

02:21:39.000 It's the over-witnesser at the door again. 1.00

02:21:41.000 Oh, fuck. 1.00

02:21:42.000 You were saying you had a terrible diet back then. 1.00

02:21:45.000 Oh, it was horrible.

02:21:46.000 There you are.

02:21:47.000 Look at you.

02:21:48.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

02:21:48.000 That's my fat ass. 1.00

02:21:49.000 Jesus Christ, like how fat you were. 1.00

02:21:51.000 Yeah, that's my fat ass. 1.00

02:21:52.000 Holy shit. 1.00

02:21:54.000 That ain't all fat, man. 1.00

02:21:55.000 You look gigantic. 1.00

02:21:57.000 Yeah, I was a fat fuck, man. 1.00

02:21:59.000 And I'm trying to get like the other guy, the lean CP on the other side. 1.00

02:22:04.000 How much did you weigh on the other side?

02:22:06.000 On the other side, I was probably about 220, but I wanted to get down to 200 pounds.

02:22:11.000 That's the goal of my 60s to be 200 pounds.

02:22:15.000 Jesus Christ, on the size of your arm?

02:22:18.000 That's so crazy. 1.00

02:22:19.000 Look at the size of that fucking arm. 1.00

02:22:21.000 That is so preposterous. 1.00

02:22:23.000 And the tricep line, the line between the tricep and the bicep, that's ridiculous, sir. 0.98

02:22:28.000 That looks a little shock to me, man. 0.87

02:22:30.000 I think somebody added on.

02:22:32.000 You think so?

02:22:32.000 Yeah, that's a little add-on right there.

02:22:34.000 I don't think so.

02:22:36.000 Stop lying.

02:22:37.000 I think they helped me out a little bit.

02:22:39.000 I don't think so.

02:22:40.000 You look pretty young there, too.

02:22:42.000 Yeah, I was actually 50. In that picture?

02:22:47.000 Yeah.

02:22:48.000 Wow.

02:22:48.000 Go back to that again.

02:22:50.000 That's 50 with no steroids. 0.98

02:22:52.000 That's ridiculous.

02:22:53.000 I just won a natural professional division.

02:23:03.000 So I won the over 50 category.

02:23:05.000 Wow.

02:23:06.000 Wow.

02:23:06.000 That's how I got my pro card as a bodybuilder.

02:23:10.000 But, no, it looks a little...

02:23:12.000 That ain't me.

02:23:14.000 That's a white suit.

02:23:19.000 That's a big difference.

02:23:20.000 Except we were talking about people that come to your gym, though, man.

02:23:22.000 I mean, they must flock to you now.

02:23:25.000 I flock.

02:23:26.000 I don't know.

02:23:26.000 But it's kind of cool, though, because you have sort of...

02:23:29.000 You've taken on this role as a guru.

02:23:33.000 Yeah.

02:23:33.000 I mean, that's one of the things that a lot of people have gotten from your videos and these...

02:23:39.000 I mean, there's motivation from...

02:23:42.000 You know, a lot of people can give you motivation.

02:23:44.000 Some of that motivation seems stale.

02:23:46.000 And then there's some people that give you motivation like, wow, that's live. 1.00

02:23:49.000 That shit's live. 0.99

02:23:50.000 Your motivation is live. 1.00

02:23:52.000 It's real.

02:23:52.000 You can tell.

02:23:53.000 It's not scripted.

02:23:54.000 Yeah, it's definitely not scripted.

02:23:56.000 From the heart.

02:23:57.000 Yeah, yeah, definitely.

02:23:59.000 Everything is right off the top of the head, man.

02:24:01.000 I think...

02:24:02.000 But a guru, that's another title I think I'm definitely not worthy of.

02:24:08.000 Maybe, you know, people say, oh, he's an OG, an old guy.

02:24:12.000 There you go.

02:24:12.000 That's more closer to being around long enough.

02:24:16.000 Well, you're also, like, people, because of the fact that you've been around, you've done so much, the people will turn to you and say, hey, this is a person with real-life experience.

02:24:26.000 You really have done things.

02:24:28.000 Yeah, I've done some stuff.

02:24:29.000 When you start talking about pushing, when you start talking about pushing yourself, people understand this is coming from life experience.

02:24:35.000 This is real.

02:24:37.000 And that's the difference.

02:24:38.000 That's why it resonates with people.

02:24:40.000 It resonates with people because it's authentic.

02:24:42.000 Oh, man.

02:24:43.000 That's a high compliment.

02:24:45.000 I appreciate that, Joe.

02:24:47.000 Thanks.

02:24:47.000 It most definitely is real.

02:24:49.000 There's a lot of people out there listening to this that know you that are nodding their head right now in appreciation and understanding.

02:24:54.000 They know what we're saying. 0.95

02:24:55.000 They know that when you fire me the fuck up, dude, those videos, I get fired up. 0.94

02:25:02.000 That's high praise right there. 0.90

02:25:04.000 It's not just me, man.

02:25:05.000 It's a lot of other people.

02:25:06.000 But that must have led a lot of people to come to your gym.

02:25:10.000 Yeah, I get people from...

02:25:13.000 I guarantee that I'm going to be there on Wednesday nights because people come all the time expecting me to be at the gym 24 hours a day.

02:25:21.000 Where's the gym?

02:25:22.000 It's in Signal Hill, California.

02:25:25.000 It's Iron Addicts, right? 0.68

02:25:26.000 It's Iron Addicts Gym in Signal Hill, California.

02:25:29.000 And there's a rumor that we're going to be opening up another one here pretty soon.

02:25:33.000 Where?

02:25:34.000 We haven't decided yet.

02:25:36.000 How about over here?

02:25:38.000 You know, that's a possibility.

02:25:40.000 People need a hardcore gym out here.

02:25:42.000 That is a possibility.

02:25:44.000 Where are you thinking?

02:25:46.000 An area where people can afford the membership.

02:25:50.000 That's what we're thinking, man.

02:25:52.000 You know, because where I'm at now, I tell you, I could make a lot more money, but first responders, firemen, policemen, all vets, paramedics, they train at the gym for free.

02:26:05.000 Good for you.

02:26:06.000 Yeah, I don't charge them nothing, man.

02:26:07.000 That's amazing.

02:26:08.000 That's the least I could do.

02:26:09.000 I think it's the least I could do.

02:26:11.000 That's beautiful.

02:26:11.000 Yeah, so, you know, I could make more money, but that's something that I choose to do.

02:26:16.000 Good for you.

02:26:17.000 Yeah.

02:26:18.000 But, yeah, we're thinking about opening up another one in an area where people got some money.

02:26:24.000 Well, when you do, man, let me know and I'll get that bat signal up in the sky. 0.94

02:26:28.000 Oh, hell yeah! 0.83

02:26:31.000 Definitely.

02:26:31.000 Definitely, Joe Rogan.

02:26:33.000 I've seen one podcast where you had one of my t-shirts on.

02:26:37.000 Yeah, man.

02:26:37.000 Thank you, Joe.

02:26:39.000 I really appreciate that.

02:26:41.000 Oh, my pleasure, brother. 0.75

02:26:42.000 I was so fucking excited when I said that. 0.96

02:26:44.000 Somebody seen it first. 0.97

02:26:45.000 One of my kids seen it first because they're all the time on social media.

02:26:48.000 Hey, Dad!

02:26:49.000 Dad, look at you!

02:26:50.000 Look at you! 1.00

02:26:51.000 And I'm like, oh, fuck! 1.00

02:26:52.000 That's cool! 0.99

02:26:53.000 Well, I was happy for you to see that your poster's hanging up in the green room, too.

02:26:57.000 Yeah!

02:26:57.000 That's unbelievable!

02:26:58.000 Joe Rogan's got my poster hanging up in the green room.

02:27:02.000 That's cool, man.

02:27:03.000 That is so cool.

02:27:04.000 So you're there every Wednesday?

02:27:05.000 Every Wednesday night, and that's when the gym is pretty packed.

02:27:08.000 On Wednesday nights, we do a live workout, and people come.

02:27:11.000 You take people through this workout?

02:27:13.000 Oh, yeah.

02:27:13.000 If they come on Wednesday nights, I've trained people.

02:27:18.000 On Wednesday nights, it's absolutely free.

02:27:21.000 See, that's another reason I don't make money.

02:27:23.000 I have people come over on Wednesday nights.

02:27:25.000 They train for absolutely free.

02:27:26.000 All you got to do is sign the waiver. 0.99

02:27:28.000 So if you get fucked up, it's on you. 0.99

02:27:30.000 You don't try to sue me or nothing like that. 0.99

02:27:32.000 But if you come on Wednesday night and sign the waiver, it's absolutely free.

02:27:35.000 That's amazing.

02:27:36.000 Yeah, I yell and scream at them.

02:27:39.000 They yell at me. 1.00

02:27:40.000 They call me a motherfucker. 1.00

02:27:41.000 People have to do it. 1.00

02:27:44.000 It's so funny. 1.00

02:27:45.000 They want me to call them a motherfucker. 1.00

02:27:46.000 And I'm like, I've been calling people a motherfucker since the fifth grade for nothing. 1.00

02:27:50.000 Isn't that weird? 0.99

02:27:51.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:27:52.000 And now they want me to call them a motherfucker. 1.00

02:27:54.000 I'm on Cameo. 1.00

02:27:57.000 And on Cameo, for 25 bucks, I'll cuss them out. 0.99

02:28:02.000 Oh, that's that application?

02:28:04.000 Yeah, the Cameo app.

02:28:05.000 And for 25 bucks, I cuss them out. 0.99

02:28:08.000 And I'm like, damn, I just cuss people out for nothing. 0.98

02:28:11.000 How many of those do you do? 0.99

02:28:13.000 I do about 10 a day.

02:28:15.000 Really?

02:28:16.000 Wow. 0.98

02:28:17.000 Cuss them out, man. 1.00

02:28:18.000 Wish me a happy fucking birthday, CT. I wish them a happy birthday or whatever the fuck they want. 1.00

02:28:26.000 25 bucks, man. 0.99

02:28:28.000 That's very reasonable.

02:28:29.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.98

02:28:30.000 It used to be more, and I said, nah, fuck it, I'll make it cheaper so more people can afford to do it. 0.98

02:28:36.000 I don't mind. 0.99

02:28:36.000 I don't mind cussing them out. 0.99

02:28:38.000 I would say you got a heart of gold, but you have a new heart.

02:28:42.000 Yeah!

02:28:42.000 So you got a new heart of gold.

02:28:43.000 But you really do, man.

02:28:45.000 The way you look at things, it's very cool.

02:28:47.000 It's very cool.

02:28:47.000 The way you let first responders and firefighters and veterans work out for free and the Wednesday night working out for free and all that.

02:28:55.000 Your heart is in the right place.

02:28:56.000 Your mind is in the right place.

02:28:58.000 I try.

02:28:59.000 I try to.

02:29:00.000 It is, man.

02:29:01.000 It is.

02:29:02.000 So, like, the environment around the gym, how much did it change once you started putting up those videos?

02:29:12.000 It's the type of gym, my gym is the type of gym that if you don't, you know, I gotta say this, we got number two behind Gold's Gym as the favorite hardcore gym in America, Iron Attic Gym.

02:29:27.000 Really?

02:29:27.000 Behind Gold's Gym, man.

02:29:29.000 Holy shit. 0.99

02:29:30.000 You can't beat Gold's Gym because you might be number one. 0.99

02:29:33.000 People are always going to vote for Gold's Gym number one.

02:29:35.000 Yeah, of course.

02:29:37.000 So iconic.

02:29:38.000 Second behind Gold's Gym.

02:29:39.000 That's incredible.

02:29:39.000 That's an honor, man.

02:29:40.000 That's what I'm saying.

02:29:41.000 I think you won.

02:29:42.000 That was a super honor.

02:29:43.000 I feel like you got first place because you can't really defeat Gold's Gym.

02:29:47.000 People coming from Lithuania, CT, and we came.

02:29:52.000 We were in town on vacation.

02:29:54.000 One place we wanted to go was your gym.

02:29:57.000 Wow.

02:29:58.000 I love that kind of stuff, man.

02:30:00.000 That's amazing.

02:30:00.000 It is so...

02:30:03.000 Gratifying.

02:30:03.000 But it's not Planet Fitness.

02:30:07.000 No.

02:30:08.000 It's hardcore.

02:30:09.000 I love the way it looks.

02:30:11.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:30:11.000 It looks like it's just like a fucking tornado ran through it. 0.99

02:30:14.000 Yeah, but if you don't love that, then you know. 0.99

02:30:16.000 Yeah, I love it.

02:30:17.000 I love it.

02:30:17.000 The weights look like everybody's been lifting with them.

02:30:20.000 Yeah.

02:30:20.000 Yeah, that's what I like.

02:30:21.000 Shiny, pretty weights. 0.60

02:30:23.000 Get the fuck out of here with that. 1.00

02:30:25.000 But see, that's... 0.99

02:30:27.000 If you have that kind of mentality, then you'll love it.

02:30:31.000 But if you know, some people are going like, oh no, I don't know, that's not my cup of tea, then you won't.

02:30:38.000 But thank goodness there's enough people like us, and my daughter's like, could you just put, recover this one bench, right?

02:30:47.000 Because they got a lot of like the stuffing's coming out. 0.99

02:30:50.000 And I look at it and I'm going, fuck, this is perfect. 0.99

02:30:52.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:30:54.000 And my dog's like, no, put a cover on this one.

02:30:56.000 Yeah, it's got like a patina.

02:30:57.000 Yeah.

02:30:58.000 I like it too, man. 0.99

02:30:59.000 I like seeing shit that's chipped up a little bit and banged up. 0.99

02:31:03.000 That's me, man. 1.00

02:31:03.000 Especially if you're going to go put yourself through hell. 1.00

02:31:06.000 Yeah, you like cars too.

02:31:07.000 Yeah, love cars.

02:31:09.000 I noticed that.

02:31:09.000 You love cars too?

02:31:11.000 I love cars.

02:31:12.000 You got a Corvette too, don't you?

02:31:13.000 Yeah, 65. I know, man.

02:31:16.000 See, it's fucking badass too. 0.98

02:31:18.000 But you didn't know that I'm a car nut too. 0.99

02:31:20.000 I do know you're a car nut.

02:31:21.000 We talked about it.

02:31:22.000 We did?

02:31:24.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:31:25.000 What do you have?

02:31:26.000 What do you have?

02:31:27.000 Oh, I have four Corvettes.

02:31:32.000 Four?

02:31:32.000 I know you're a Corvette, man.

02:31:34.000 Damn. 1.00

02:31:34.000 I have a 65, a 72, a 74, and a 71. I got a lot of C3s. 1.00

02:31:43.000 Oh, those are the C3s. 1.00

02:31:44.000 Is that you?

02:31:45.000 Yeah, that's one of them.

02:31:46.000 That's yours?

02:31:46.000 Yeah, that's one.

02:31:47.000 Damn, you are good on that thing, man. 0.99

02:31:49.000 You speak about... 0.99

02:31:50.000 That's yours, too?

02:31:51.000 Yeah, that's mine, too.

02:31:52.000 Oh, that one's nice.

02:31:53.000 Black with the side pipes.

02:31:55.000 That's 427 Tri-Car right there.

02:31:57.000 That's a beautiful one.

02:31:58.000 What year is that?

02:31:59.000 That's 72. So that's all Generation 3, right?

02:32:02.000 Yeah.

02:32:03.000 My neighbors hate me. 1.00

02:32:05.000 That fucker is loud, man. 1.00

02:32:07.000 I bet. 1.00

02:32:07.000 That year is amazing. 1.00

02:32:09.000 Those are gorgeous cars, man.

02:32:12.000 Nothing compared to what you got, but, you know, I like them, man.

02:32:16.000 Oh, I love them.

02:32:16.000 I love Corvettes.

02:32:17.000 I like the new ones, too.

02:32:18.000 I like all of them.

02:32:19.000 Yeah, well, you got something else besides the Corvette, too, I heard about, but I haven't seen.

02:32:23.000 I've seen the Corvette, but what else you got?

02:32:26.000 I have a 69 Nova that they're building right now.

02:32:29.000 I did see that.

02:32:30.000 I think I did see that.

02:32:32.000 And you, everything's...

02:32:35.000 Like, super new.

02:32:37.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.99

02:32:38.000 I don't like old shit, like drum brakes and fucked up suspensions where you can't go around corners. 1.00

02:32:46.000 Yeah, I'm not interested in dying. 1.00

02:32:47.000 Not like that.

02:32:49.000 Oh, man.

02:32:50.000 Yeah.

02:32:50.000 I like what they call Resto Mods.

02:32:52.000 Yeah, that's it.

02:32:54.000 Is that what you do to yours?

02:32:54.000 Oh, no, no.

02:32:55.000 Well, the yellow one I got from a guy who was a plastic surgeon.

02:33:01.000 And that was like his bottom of the line car.

02:33:05.000 But he did everything to it.

02:33:06.000 It's got the suspension and everything.

02:33:08.000 Makes a big difference.

02:33:09.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:33:10.000 I can drive that thing anywhere.

02:33:12.000 But the black one, 427 Tri-Carb, it's old school.

02:33:17.000 Old school all the way?

02:33:18.000 Even the brakes?

02:33:19.000 No, no.

02:33:20.000 It's got disc brakes.

02:33:20.000 Okay, yeah, that's where you gotta draw the line.

02:33:23.000 Yeah, yeah, gotta be able to stop.

02:33:25.000 Gotta be able to stop. 1.00

02:33:26.000 But that fucker is... 1.00

02:33:27.000 And actually, I like shit like that. 1.00

02:33:30.000 I wouldn't mind the rest of mine, but I like old shit, man. 1.00

02:33:36.000 I like old houses. 1.00

02:33:37.000 I like old cars.

02:33:39.000 I collect old bikes.

02:33:40.000 Character. 1.00

02:33:41.000 Yeah, just old shit. 1.00

02:33:42.000 I just love old shit, man. 1.00

02:33:44.000 I do too. 1.00

02:33:45.000 Yeah.

02:33:45.000 I think there's character to old things.

02:33:48.000 Yep.

02:33:48.000 It's like...

02:33:49.000 Either you like it or you don't.

02:33:50.000 Some people just like everything new and modern and shiny.

02:33:54.000 When I started making money, I started buying older cars. 1.00

02:33:57.000 I like older shit. 0.99

02:33:58.000 They just have a different feel to them. 1.00

02:34:01.000 Totally.

02:34:02.000 Totally, totally, totally.

02:34:03.000 And I have a...

02:34:05.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:34:05.000 Is this your truck?

02:34:06.000 That's my latest truck, man.

02:34:07.000 When did you get this?

02:34:08.000 I got that probably six months ago.

02:34:12.000 What year is it?

02:34:13.000 Look at the window on it. 1.00

02:34:14.000 See, I like that motherfucker, man. 1.00

02:34:16.000 Yeah, look at all the patina on that thing. 1.00

02:34:18.000 It's a crew cab.

02:34:19.000 It's a 61 crew cab.

02:34:21.000 Wow.

02:34:21.000 You can't find those crew cabs.

02:34:23.000 And it came from the factory, a crew cab, man.

02:34:25.000 Wow.

02:34:26.000 That truck looks like me.

02:34:28.000 Wow. 1.00

02:34:29.000 Bashed in windows and shit, cars and shit. 1.00

02:34:32.000 Oh, that's beautiful. 1.00

02:34:33.000 I love it.

02:34:34.000 You drive that around? 1.00

02:34:36.000 That motherfucker. 1.00

02:34:37.000 You know what? 1.00

02:34:38.000 I'm waiting. 1.00

02:34:39.000 I am going to get the bodywork done on that motherfucker. 1.00

02:34:42.000 It's got some holes in it. 0.99

02:34:43.000 Oh, it's pretty beat up.

02:34:44.000 I got to get the bodywork done.

02:34:46.000 It's funny, though.

02:34:47.000 There's something to that.

02:34:48.000 When you look at those old cars, you realize that they don't make anything like this anymore.

02:34:53.000 No, man.

02:34:54.000 The style, they really put a lot into style.

02:34:59.000 Cars in the 50s and 60s, man.

02:35:01.000 They do now, but it just doesn't seem the same.

02:35:03.000 Even if they look good.

02:35:05.000 Like a new Corvette, like a 2019 Corvette, it's a beautiful car.

02:35:08.000 But you look at that old truck, it does not have what that truck has.

02:35:12.000 It'll put a smile on your face just driving it.

02:35:16.000 Man, one of my biggest joys is sitting behind the wheel of those old cars, man. 0.98

02:35:22.000 It just makes me, I feel like a young motherfucker when I'm sitting there, like a kid. 0.98

02:35:27.000 Yeah, like it's a toy. 0.99

02:35:28.000 Like a ride, like you're driving around on a ride.

02:35:31.000 It is.

02:35:32.000 It's so much joy.

02:35:33.000 You pull up to a stop like... 1.00

02:35:36.000 Some motherfucker, you look over in the car next to me, the guy's giving you a thumbs up. 1.00

02:35:39.000 Man, I be cheesing from ear to ear when that happens. 1.00

02:35:42.000 And you don't even have to drive those fast.

02:35:44.000 No.

02:35:45.000 Yeah.

02:35:45.000 Like, even that Corvette.

02:35:47.000 You don't have to.

02:35:49.000 Every once in a while, it's fun to, you know, break them loose.

02:35:52.000 It's a little fun to break them loose.

02:35:54.000 Yeah.

02:35:54.000 But, you know, you don't have to drive fast.

02:35:56.000 Well, for a powerlifter, though, it's almost, like, mandatory for you to have some sort of a muscle car.

02:36:01.000 Yeah, I guess so.

02:36:03.000 It seems like it goes with the territory, doesn't it?

02:36:06.000 Like a big block engine, there's you.

02:36:08.000 Oh, somebody got a video you're driving by?

02:36:09.000 Yeah.

02:36:10.000 Oh, that's hilarious.

02:36:11.000 I like this.

02:36:12.000 Do you get recognized a lot?

02:36:14.000 You know, more than I, you know, I'm still shocked.

02:36:18.000 But, you know, I go to the store, I was walking down the street the other day, and it got, hey, CT! You know, I was yelling and screaming from the car, and I'm like, man, how do you even know who the fuck I am? 0.99

02:36:30.000 Because I figure if you're not a weightlifter and you don't look at YouTube, then, and I know that's a lot of people, how would anybody, you know, wouldn't even know who the fuck I was, you know. 0.97

02:36:42.000 So I'm still shocked by it, but I get recognized more than I, you know, more than I thought I would. 0.95

02:36:48.000 This C.T. Fletcher 2.0, this life that you're living right now.

02:36:52.000 Yes.

02:36:53.000 Yes.

02:36:54.000 What is different in what you're trying to accomplish?

02:36:58.000 Oh, man.

02:37:00.000 The first one was me, me, me, me, me.

02:37:04.000 And this 2.0 guy is so much more concerned about other people and doing something to help somebody else.

02:37:14.000 It's so much more important than, you know, like my initial videos, you see.

02:37:20.000 I was like, you may not know me now, but you will, you know. 0.99

02:37:23.000 I'm good at this, and this guy, fuck that guy. 1.00

02:37:26.000 I'm the king. 1.00

02:37:27.000 I'm the beast. 0.98

02:37:28.000 I'm the baddest one. 0.95

02:37:29.000 I'm the baddest man on the planet.

02:37:31.000 And, you know, I, I, I, I, I. And now I consider myself, this new guy is so insignificant that it's not even funny, man.

02:37:42.000 Just fuck CT Flusher. 0.99

02:37:44.000 Does it feel weird to have completely shifted your consciousness like that? 1.00

02:37:50.000 It does.

02:37:52.000 A little weird at times.

02:37:54.000 It feels a little weird.

02:37:56.000 Like you're not even you?

02:37:57.000 But so much, it's me.

02:38:01.000 And I know it's me, but I feel so much better.

02:38:04.000 So much better, man.

02:38:07.000 When the focus on me, you know...

02:38:12.000 This new version, I feel so much better that I'm trying to bring people together.

02:38:20.000 I'm trying like I have my mission.

02:38:23.000 My purpose is so much greater.

02:38:26.000 I'm trying to do some good.

02:38:28.000 The O.G. Ree Fletcher, that's my mom. 1.00

02:38:30.000 That's the lady who kept me from being completely retarded as a kid. 0.99

02:38:34.000 The O.G. Ree Fletcher Heart Foundation.

02:38:37.000 I started a Nonprofit organization in the name of my mom.

02:38:43.000 And it's to people, because a transplant is a very, I mean, a lot of people, if it wasn't for the Army, if it wasn't for me being a veteran, there's no way I could afford a transplant.

02:38:53.000 It's a million dollar procedure. 0.98

02:38:56.000 Yeah, I didn't have a fucking million dollars, girl. 0.98

02:38:59.000 So, but there's other, even if you have insurance, there's other things that comes up. 0.98

02:39:04.000 You know, say the head of the family has to have a transplant, a heart transplant.

02:39:08.000 He's out.

02:39:10.000 Okay, his medical bills are taken care of, but what about, how's his wife going to pay the mortgage?

02:39:15.000 How's she going to buy gas? 1.00

02:39:16.000 How's she going to feed the kids? 1.00

02:39:18.000 I started the Osprey Futter Heart Foundation to help people, uh, With that, to help the mom who's still at home, who still has to pay the bills and stuff, because insurance doesn't cover everything.

02:39:31.000 To help the people that don't, you know, I haven't even had my first event or anything like that.

02:39:37.000 I just paid the lawyer to get the name and stuff.

02:39:41.000 But I have to start.

02:39:43.000 You got to start somewhere.

02:39:44.000 And that started.

02:39:45.000 I had the vision in my head.

02:39:46.000 I'm going to do something for my mom so her memory will go on, you know, even after I'm I want to do something to honor her because that woman, you know, everything I am is because of her.

02:39:59.000 So I want to do something to honor her.

02:40:01.000 I just got all these things I want to do to help my veterans with PTSD. I got so many goals and stuff to live for, Joe.

02:40:11.000 I don't know what to do.

02:40:13.000 And I don't know how much time I got to do it. 0.93

02:40:15.000 I could, you know, walk out of here and drop dead.

02:40:17.000 I don't know. 0.96

02:40:17.000 But I'm going to be goddamn sure I'm not going to waste one second ever. 0.96

02:40:21.000 I'm going to be trying.

02:40:22.000 I'm on the Joe Rogan show, and I'm talking, Joe Rogan podcast, and I'm talking about it right now.

02:40:27.000 So I'm doing something about it, Joe.

02:40:29.000 It's beautiful.

02:40:31.000 It's beautiful to see your transformation, man.

02:40:33.000 It's beautiful to see this evolution for you as a person.

02:40:37.000 And it's beautiful to see that you got through this, you know, terrible scare, but came out a better person.

02:40:44.000 Oh, man.

02:40:45.000 Yeah, it's something else.

02:40:47.000 I remember the last time we were talking, and I said, yeah, they tell me I need a heart transplant.

02:40:53.000 A heart transplant?

02:40:55.000 Oh, my God, dude, are you scared?

02:40:58.000 I'm like, no, I'm not scared, but it's something else, man.

02:41:02.000 It is...

02:41:03.000 It's crazy to see you a year later.

02:41:05.000 Yeah.

02:41:06.000 Now you have it.

02:41:07.000 Yep.

02:41:08.000 And you're just this different human, man.

02:41:10.000 Yeah, and I'm back on the joke.

02:41:13.000 Hey, Joe, thank you, man.

02:41:15.000 My pleasure.

02:41:16.000 Thank you.

02:41:16.000 Thank you so much.

02:41:18.000 Thank you for being you.

02:41:20.000 It was...

02:41:20.000 So many people come up to me and tell me that, you know, I... Found out about you from the Joe Rogan podcast.

02:41:27.000 From Joe Rogan podcast, that's how I know even who you are.

02:41:30.000 So this opportunity, the opportunity you gave me last time, opened up so many more doors, man.

02:41:37.000 And so to be back on here, I can't thank you enough, man.

02:41:42.000 This is fantastic.

02:41:43.000 Listen brother, it's my pleasure and for people that are listening that have never heard you before or watching You got to go watch his videos.

02:41:49.000 This is the reason why you got on the first place I got so inspired by your shit and seeing you online with these these videos and Just shows your passion and your motivation and now to see you this new person on top of that still have the passion But now you there's like this you like this New enlightened C.T. Fletcher.

02:42:10.000 It's beautiful to see, man.

02:42:11.000 I know a lot of people are going to get a good laugh at that.

02:42:14.000 You are, man.

02:42:16.000 I could tell the moment I saw you today.

02:42:18.000 It's like you got a different energy about you.

02:42:20.000 It's really interesting.

02:42:21.000 Oh, man.

02:42:21.000 I was so happy to see you.

02:42:24.000 I'm so happy to see you, too, man.

02:42:25.000 I'm so happy to see this new lease on life you have.

02:42:28.000 Oh, my God, Joe.

02:42:30.000 I was just very happy to see you, Joe.

02:42:34.000 And look, I won't just say...

02:42:36.000 I'm alive, Joe.

02:42:37.000 You're alive, man.

02:42:38.000 You're alive.

02:42:39.000 Yeah.

02:42:40.000 And getting better every day. 0.99

02:42:41.000 And getting better and talking shit and stronger every day, man. 0.99

02:42:46.000 Tell people how to get a hold of you on social media. 0.98

02:42:49.000 What is your Instagram?

02:42:51.000 You know what?

02:42:52.000 CTFletcher.com.

02:42:54.000 CTFletcher for everything.

02:42:55.000 Go there.

02:42:55.000 CTFletcher.com.

02:42:56.000 You can find everything and search them out on YouTube.

02:42:58.000 Everything.

02:42:59.000 Signal Hill, Iron Addicts Gym, and then when you do open up a new one, please let me know. 0.99

02:43:04.000 We'll absolutely let everybody know where and we'll get there for the grand opening and blow that motherfucker up. 1.00

02:43:10.000 Hey, Dr. Dre, if you're listening, I want you there, man. 0.98

02:43:13.000 Dr. Dre, he's going to run that hill.

02:43:15.000 Yeah, oh, I promise you, Dr. Dre, I'm going to make it up that hill.

02:43:19.000 I believe it.

02:43:19.000 Thank you, brother.

02:43:20.000 I appreciate you, man.

02:43:21.000 I really appreciate you.

02:43:22.000 I really appreciate you.

02:43:23.000 C.T. Fletcher, ladies and gentlemen.

02:43:25.000 Yes, sir.

02:43:26.000 That was awesome.

02:43:27.000 I have no idea.

The Joe Rogan Experience - May 06, 2019

Joe Rogan Experience #1291 - C.T. Fletcher

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