The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1304 - Brendan Schaub

00:00:00.000 Australia.

00:00:01.000 Two.

00:00:02.000 Salute, my brother.

00:00:03.000 Salute, brother.

00:00:04.000 What does it feel like having a Showtime special?

00:00:07.000 I don't know.

00:00:08.000 I feel the same.

00:00:09.000 A little more stressed out.

00:00:10.000 A little stressed out?

00:00:10.000 Yeah.

00:00:11.000 Stay away from them comments, son.

00:00:13.000 Here's the whole deal with all that stuff, man.

00:00:14.000 You put it out, you watch it, you hate it, you get better.

00:00:18.000 Forces you.

00:00:19.000 Forces you to work. 1.00

00:00:20.000 I fucking hate everything I do. 0.99

00:00:22.000 There's no getting around it. 1.00

00:00:23.000 You're gonna hate it.

00:00:24.000 You hate hearing yourself, right?

00:00:26.000 The editing is painful.

00:00:29.000 The worst.

00:00:30.000 But you'll get better.

00:00:31.000 You just take some of the criticism to heart, understand what people are saying.

00:00:35.000 For sure. 0.99

00:00:37.000 Fucking keep it on, my brother. 0.99

00:00:39.000 I'm happy about it. 1.00

00:00:40.000 I think I'm stressed out this week.

00:00:43.000 Last week I was doing publicity for New York, hustling, doing all that.

00:00:47.000 I saw you did Breakfast Club.

00:00:50.000 You and Charlamagne need to get together.

00:00:51.000 You guys are going to be great, man.

00:00:53.000 I was listening to his audio book.

00:00:55.000 It's very interesting.

00:00:56.000 He's had some real bouts with anxiety.

00:00:59.000 Weird anxiety.

00:01:01.000 Yeah, weird anxiety, right?

00:01:02.000 Shook Ones, I think, is his book?

00:01:03.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00

00:01:04.000 I think it comes from talking shit. 1.00

00:01:06.000 I think when you talk a lot of shit, you worry about shit coming back at you and you're like, Jesus, what did I say? 1.00

00:01:11.000 At least that's how it is for me. 1.00

00:01:12.000 It depends.

00:01:13.000 If it's like legit, like when me and Dana were going at it, I was stressed.

00:01:18.000 Because it brings out the evilness in people.

00:01:23.000 Everyone's like, oh, I hope he tears them up.

00:01:25.000 Oh, I hope he responds.

00:01:25.000 People jump in.

00:01:26.000 Yeah, and then you're like, oh, I don't really want this.

00:01:28.000 Did you see Gaffigan and Neil Brennan?

00:01:31.000 No.

00:01:31.000 Dude.

00:01:32.000 No way! 1.00

00:01:33.000 Gaffigan lit Neil Brennan on fire and shit on his embers. 1.00

00:01:37.000 No! 0.99

00:01:38.000 For what?

00:01:39.000 Neil started it!

00:01:40.000 Why?

00:01:41.000 Neil started it.

00:01:41.000 I'm going to send it to Jamie.

00:01:43.000 I'm going to send it to Jamie.

00:01:44.000 Oh, I'm so excited for this.

00:01:46.000 In my Sober October text message group.

00:01:47.000 And listen, I love Neil.

00:01:49.000 Oh, he's one of my favorite people.

00:01:51.000 But when someone gets roasted, someone gets roasted.

00:01:53.000 And it's even better because he started it.

00:01:56.000 He started it for no reason.

00:01:57.000 Oh, no!

00:01:58.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:01:59.000 He tried to be snarky.

00:02:01.000 Here, Jamie, I'm sending this to you right now.

00:02:03.000 Jim Gafkin is a ma-ma-ma-monster fantastic in Transylvania 3. Was he?

00:02:08.000 Oh, amazing.

00:02:09.000 Oh, I saw that.

00:02:10.000 Which one was he?

00:02:11.000 He was Van Helsing.

00:02:11.000 Was he really?

00:02:12.000 Yeah.

00:02:12.000 Oh my god, he's amazing.

00:02:13.000 Great.

00:02:14.000 I love those movies.

00:02:15.000 Love them.

00:02:15.000 They're fun.

00:02:15.000 I love when my son gets into that stuff.

00:02:17.000 The fucking animation today is so incredible. 0.99

00:02:20.000 I find myself sitting there watching the animation going, this is amazing. 0.99

00:02:23.000 The shading and just the detail of it.

00:02:26.000 We can get into it.

00:02:27.000 Even if it's meant for kids, as a parent, I'm good, man.

00:02:30.000 Did you watch The Despicable Me's?

00:02:31.000 Yeah.

00:02:31.000 Oh, yeah.

00:02:32.000 They're great.

00:02:33.000 Part 3's amazing.

00:02:34.000 All three of them are great.

00:02:35.000 I love Part 3 with the 80s soundtrack.

00:02:37.000 It's the guy, the creator from South Park. 0.98

00:02:40.000 And isn't there another one with just the fucking yellow dudes? 1.00

00:02:43.000 The Minions. 0.99

00:02:44.000 Yes.

00:02:44.000 That's good, too.

00:02:45.000 Yeah, I saw that one.

00:02:46.000 A little long.

00:02:46.000 Towards the end, it gets a little weird when they get to London, but very good.

00:02:50.000 Yeah.

00:02:51.000 They're good, man.

00:02:52.000 I love them.

00:02:53.000 So this is to text Brennan.

00:02:55.000 So what happens is Gaffigan puts up a thing saying, hey, why are you looking at your phone?

00:03:03.000 You could be watching my Netflix special.

00:03:04.000 I made them all for you.

00:03:05.000 And he says, Neil says, which one has the joke about food?

00:03:08.000 You say like a food and then you talk about it and I'd be over here dying.

00:03:12.000 And then Gaffigan says, Neil, it's the special where I have three microphones.

00:03:16.000 One microphone is for jokes I pretend I can't remember that I read off a card.

00:03:19.000 One mic is for emotional manipulation of the audience.

00:03:22.000 And one microphone is for mentioning the Chappelle show and celebrity friends.

00:03:28.000 Boom.

00:03:28.000 Oh.

00:03:30.000 That's like...

00:03:31.000 Awkward.

00:03:32.000 That's like one of those bombs that goes off in the distance.

00:03:35.000 You just hear...

00:03:36.000 Boom.

00:03:38.000 And we're just like this with...

00:03:40.000 We got a little frisky.

00:03:41.000 What happened?

00:03:42.000 Got a little frisky.

00:03:44.000 Sometimes those guys fire back.

00:03:45.000 Sometimes those guys fire back.

00:03:47.000 Got a little vulnerable spot right there.

00:03:49.000 The liver was exposed.

00:03:50.000 Neil just bowed out.

00:03:51.000 Thank you for your time.

00:03:52.000 Thank you.

00:03:53.000 Yeah, you're supposed to bow out there. 1.00

00:03:55.000 You fucked up. 1.00

00:03:57.000 You're supposed to say, ouch, you got me. 1.00

00:03:59.000 Just joking, man.

00:04:02.000 When King of the Sting, Theo and I roast each other, and he's so good at it, sometimes I'm just like, I'm going to sit out, man.

00:04:07.000 Just go.

00:04:08.000 Go ahead, man.

00:04:08.000 I got nothing.

00:04:09.000 I've ran out of material, Theo.

00:04:11.000 Go ahead, bro.

00:04:12.000 Some of the things he says are so Theo.

00:04:15.000 Theo is like, there's a few guys.

00:04:17.000 Theo's one of them.

00:04:18.000 Sebastian's another one that have a style of comedy that you will never be able to explain to someone.

00:04:24.000 They've got to go see him.

00:04:25.000 You've got to listen to him.

00:04:27.000 And it's so strange where the King This Thing podcast is mostly me saying something pretty average and then Theo just saying the most outlandish thing and me laughing my ass off.

00:04:39.000 The funnest show ever.

00:04:40.000 You guys go back and forth at each other.

00:04:42.000 It's very funny.

00:04:43.000 He's so funny, man.

00:04:44.000 Yeah.

00:04:44.000 He's a unique dude.

00:04:46.000 Very unique dude.

00:04:47.000 As unique as they get.

00:04:48.000 Yeah.

00:04:49.000 He's in Australia right now.

00:04:50.000 He goes, yeah.

00:04:51.000 He's in Australia?

00:04:51.000 He's in Australia right now.

00:04:53.000 And he goes, yeah, this is this morning.

00:04:56.000 He goes, yeah, man, got a koala coming to the hotel. 1.00

00:04:59.000 And I went, oh, shit, man, those things have chlamydia, so make sure you wash your hands. 1.00

00:05:04.000 And he goes, shit, I have some things, too. 1.00

00:05:06.000 He better wash his hands. 1.00

00:05:11.000 I'm just like, alright dude.

00:05:14.000 Alright man. 1.00

00:05:16.000 He's so stupid. 1.00

00:05:17.000 He better wash his hands. 1.00

00:05:22.000 Oh my god, that's funny. 1.00

00:05:23.000 But it's legit a koala's coming over to his fucking hotel. 0.99

00:05:28.000 That's so Theo! 0.99

00:05:29.000 He's so funny.

00:05:30.000 Brody was that way too.

00:05:31.000 Brody had that unique style too.

00:05:34.000 He's so special, man.

00:05:35.000 Theo's so special.

00:05:36.000 He is very unusual.

00:05:36.000 And you just know it.

00:05:37.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:05:38.000 You just know it, man.

00:05:40.000 People were asking what it's like to work with Theo.

00:05:42.000 All you guys, and I said, with Theo, it's like, he's the LeBron James of comedy.

00:05:46.000 He's so creative. 0.90

00:05:46.000 I'm just that shitty coach on the side trying to manage this ball game. 0.90

00:05:51.000 Not to fuck it up, man. 0.99

00:05:53.000 But he's just...

00:05:54.000 I mean, there's other guys that are funny, but they're funny in a regular way.

00:05:59.000 Like, oh, he's really good.

00:06:00.000 His jokes are great.

00:06:01.000 Oh, he's got a great presence.

00:06:02.000 He's great on stage.

00:06:03.000 But Theo's like, try to explain that.

00:06:05.000 You can't explain that.

00:06:06.000 You gotta go see him.

00:06:07.000 It's a magical cluster of dark magic from New Orleans.

00:06:10.000 Where he'll say something, and I'm like...

00:06:12.000 There's certain guys I can watch and I'll go, oh, he's definitely, his IQ might be higher than mine, but I see how he got there with this premise of a joke.

00:06:21.000 With Theo, I'm like, I have no idea how he got there.

00:06:23.000 It's not happening.

00:06:24.000 You know who gives me stress when I look at his schedule?

00:06:27.000 Russell Peters. 0.99

00:06:28.000 Yeah, he's all over the fucking planet. 0.99

00:06:32.000 He goes to Africa for like six weeks. 0.99

00:06:34.000 Did you hear Michael Bisping almost got fucking robbed in Africa? 0.97

00:06:38.000 Did he really? 0.98

00:06:39.000 Yeah, he was doing a movie. 0.99

00:06:39.000 What the fuck was he doing in Africa? 0.99

00:06:40.000 He was doing a movie. 1.00

00:06:42.000 Expendables 19?

00:06:43.000 I don't know what it was.

00:06:44.000 He's doing a movie.

00:06:45.000 He got a little liquored up.

00:06:46.000 His cab dropped him off and said, your hotel's over there.

00:06:50.000 He get out of the cab. 0.98

00:06:51.000 He's like, where the fuck's my hotel? 0.97

00:06:52.000 The cab driver drives off. 0.98

00:06:54.000 He's like looking around where the hotel is.

00:06:55.000 And he said like 10 dudes just started rolling up on him saying, I want your wallet.

00:07:00.000 You know, if you want to live, you'll give me your wallet.

00:07:02.000 Yeah.

00:07:03.000 Is this South Africa or is this like Francis Ngannou?

00:07:06.000 I think he said Pretoria. 1.00

00:07:07.000 Fuck, man. 1.00

00:07:08.000 Yeah, so he ran. 1.00

00:07:09.000 And he got away, obviously.

00:07:11.000 Yeah, he got away.

00:07:12.000 Surprised he didn't get caught, right?

00:07:14.000 Yeah.

00:07:14.000 Black guy.

00:07:16.000 He's a big fella, you know? 0.97

00:07:18.000 Michael Bissing's a big fella.

00:07:20.000 He knows how to fight, and they probably could sense that a little bit. 0.99

00:07:23.000 But if there's ten of them, they usually don't give a fuck. 0.99

00:07:25.000 And he's probably hammered, too. 0.99

00:07:26.000 What if it was ten Francis Ngannos?

00:07:28.000 Then you're giving your wallet, and the homies are running a train. 1.00

00:07:31.000 Bro, what if there's one Francis Ngannos? 0.99

00:07:32.000 What the fuck are you going to do? 0.99

00:07:34.000 Nothing. 1.00

00:07:35.000 What the fuck are you going to do? 0.99

00:07:36.000 Nothing, dude. 0.99

00:07:37.000 I love Bisping, man.

00:07:38.000 Eddie Izzard was telling me that when he was running, he ran like 27 marathons in South Africa, and when he went through certain sections of South Africa, they go, stop, you are not running through this area.

00:07:48.000 We're going to put you in a car, we're going to drive you to where it's safe, and then you're going to continue your run. 0.99

00:07:52.000 God damn. 1.00

00:07:53.000 He goes, but you will get robbed. 1.00

00:07:55.000 Like, there's areas where you just will get robbed.

00:07:57.000 I have no interest in going to Africa.

00:07:59.000 Everyone's like, oh, it's beautiful.

00:08:00.000 Very cool.

00:08:00.000 I want to go.

00:08:01.000 You really?

00:08:02.000 Yeah, I want to go.

00:08:03.000 I want to see what those animals look like in the wild. 0.98

00:08:05.000 I would love to see, you know, before we fuck Africa up. 1.00

00:08:08.000 You got 12 years, they say. 0.99

00:08:10.000 Before everything's gone? 0.97

00:08:11.000 Before the way humans are fucking up the world, there's no going back. 0.95

00:08:15.000 If we don't make a change now. 0.96

00:08:17.000 That sounds like a Michael Jackson song.

00:08:18.000 Well, that...

00:08:22.000 That's from the ending of Little Dicky's new video of saving the world, but it does say it's like earth.org.

00:08:28.000 It's like that's a quote from them.

00:08:30.000 I don't think they know.

00:08:31.000 See, the reality is they know there's a real problem with carbon in the environment.

00:08:35.000 They know that human beings have put carbon in the environment in unprecedented levels, and they know that the earth is heating up rapidly.

00:08:43.000 But they don't know what exactly is going to happen.

00:08:46.000 There's some models they predict.

00:08:48.000 None of them look good.

00:08:49.000 They don't really know.

00:08:50.000 No one really knows.

00:08:51.000 Some people are like, oh, global warming's not real.

00:08:54.000 Obviously our president doesn't think it is.

00:08:55.000 It's real. 0.95

00:08:56.000 But if you go back to the 1990s, they were predicting shit was going to happen that never happened. 0.95

00:09:00.000 Same thing with the 2000s. 0.99

00:09:02.000 But here we are in 2019, you know, we should listen to them because we're definitely fucking up. 0.99

00:09:08.000 Definitely fucking up. 0.99

00:09:08.000 You see the whales and stuff with like trash on their stomach and dying and birds. 0.99

00:09:13.000 That's a giant problem.

00:09:14.000 There's also too many people.

00:09:16.000 But what are you going to do?

00:09:18.000 Well, there's two schools of thought on that even.

00:09:20.000 The schools of thought on people is what happens is as the world gets more and more westernized, as people start developing careers, people have less and less kids.

00:09:30.000 And that if you look at Japan and you look at some westernized nations, they actually have a shortage of kids.

00:09:36.000 And they think that, and this is purely speculative, right?

00:09:41.000 It's just theoretical.

00:09:42.000 They think that as the world becomes more and more industrialized and westernized and more technology and more advanced, that people will start to have less kids.

00:09:52.000 That's a fair point.

00:09:53.000 But also, even Americans, they're having kids later, and I think less as well. 0.72

00:09:58.000 But also, isn't there parts of Australia and Africa where no one's really there, so if we had to, we could colonize that and make it more livable?

00:10:07.000 Yeah.

00:10:07.000 Bro, the parts of Australia where no one lives, no one wants to live.

00:10:11.000 You don't want to live in the fucking middle where all the crocodiles are and shit. 0.99

00:10:15.000 But we could figure it out. 1.00

00:10:16.000 Yeah, you could figure it out.

00:10:17.000 Shoot a couple crocs, build a loft. 1.00

00:10:19.000 Snakes everywhere that'll kill you. 0.99

00:10:20.000 I mean, there's a lot of parts of Australia.

00:10:23.000 Australia's huge.

00:10:23.000 It's as big as the United States.

00:10:25.000 It's so big.

00:10:25.000 But there's giant parts of Africa, too.

00:10:28.000 Giant parts where we could live if we had to.

00:10:30.000 But Australia has less people than L.A. I know.

00:10:33.000 The whole goddamn country. 1.00

00:10:34.000 You've been there, right? 1.00

00:10:35.000 Yeah, a bunch.

00:10:36.000 I love it there.

00:10:37.000 Love it.

00:10:37.000 Nice people.

00:10:38.000 I'm sure you've done comedy.

00:10:39.000 Yeah, yeah, a bunch of times.

00:10:41.000 The best.

00:10:41.000 Yeah, Sydney, Melbourne.

00:10:43.000 Melbourne's great.

00:10:43.000 Amazing.

00:10:44.000 I love Sydney, too, though.

00:10:45.000 Have a great time there.

00:10:45.000 Have you been to New Zealand?

00:10:46.000 Yeah.

00:10:47.000 No, I've never been to New Zealand.

00:10:48.000 Dude, it's straight off of Jurassic Park.

00:10:51.000 What'd you do there?

00:10:51.000 Comedy.

00:10:52.000 No shit, why? 1.00

00:10:52.000 Did a theater in New Zealand. 1.00

00:10:54.000 When'd you do this?

00:10:54.000 I think like a year and a half, two years ago, I did a tour of Australia and New Zealand.

00:10:58.000 Damn, that's when you were Justin. 0.95

00:10:59.000 I'm starting, too. 1.00

00:10:59.000 That's crazy. 1.00

00:11:00.000 Check this out.

00:11:00.000 No openers came out cold.

00:11:02.000 Oh, my God.

00:11:03.000 Why'd you do that?

00:11:04.000 I don't... 0.91

00:11:04.000 Crazy. 0.91

00:11:05.000 No one...

00:11:05.000 Hey, man.

00:11:06.000 I wouldn't have told you.

00:11:07.000 You didn't ask.

00:11:07.000 How do you go to Australia and just go by yourself, man?

00:11:10.000 You didn't even ask.

00:11:11.000 Nah, I just went, dude.

00:11:12.000 Here I am.

00:11:13.000 Showtime.

00:11:14.000 Special.

00:11:16.000 It was fun, though.

00:11:16.000 Good experiences.

00:11:17.000 Oh, they're good people.

00:11:18.000 I like the people.

00:11:19.000 Everybody I met from New Zealand is very similar to Australian people, very down-to-earth.

00:11:24.000 Super nice.

00:11:25.000 Yeah.

00:11:25.000 It's a beautiful place, man.

00:11:27.000 I mean, they did The Hobbit there for a fucking reason. 0.98

00:11:29.000 Yeah, good point. 0.97

00:11:30.000 Good food, good people.

00:11:33.000 Not that I could ever leave LA, but I could live somewhere like that.

00:11:36.000 I could live in Australia.

00:11:37.000 Me too.

00:11:37.000 It's very American, but clean, I feel like.

00:11:40.000 Yeah, but the driving on the wrong side of the road shit, like, get it together, folks. 0.99

00:11:43.000 We invented cars. 1.00

00:11:44.000 The fuck are you doing over there in the left lane? 1.00

00:11:46.000 That is strange. 1.00

00:11:47.000 Do you know where that came from?

00:11:48.000 Yeah.

00:11:49.000 Now, correct me.

00:11:49.000 This is bro science.

00:11:51.000 But when they were developing, it was like the wagons with the horses.

00:11:56.000 It's for sword fighting, right?

00:11:58.000 Yeah.

00:11:58.000 Yeah, for horses and sword fighters.

00:12:00.000 Oh, yes!

00:12:00.000 You got it.

00:12:01.000 That's why you swing a sword with your right arm.

00:12:03.000 You want your right arm to be facing your opponent.

00:12:06.000 You want to be free, right?

00:12:07.000 Yeah.

00:12:08.000 You don't want the dude to be over here on this side.

00:12:10.000 You got to reach over and try to hack at him.

00:12:12.000 Doesn't make sense.

00:12:13.000 But here's a little loophole.

00:12:15.000 If you want a dope-ass rear car, you can get one with driving on the right, and it's going to be cheaper.

00:12:20.000 So if you want a Ferrari F12 TDF, like a limited one, you can save money if you get one that's set up on the right.

00:12:27.000 They set up on the right like an English car would be?

00:12:30.000 Yeah.

00:12:30.000 Really?

00:12:31.000 Because they're harder to resell because there's less, less people.

00:12:34.000 Just throw them away.

00:12:34.000 Oh, come on, dude.

00:12:35.000 Fix it.

00:12:36.000 But you could just drive on the right.

00:12:37.000 You're still in a dope-ass ride.

00:12:38.000 Can they switch it out? 0.83

00:12:39.000 Ugh, it'd be expensive.

00:12:40.000 Probably just buy it on the other side for the price.

00:12:43.000 What are they going to do?

00:12:44.000 Switch it out.

00:12:45.000 They'd have to change everything.

00:12:46.000 That's a nightmare.

00:12:47.000 I saw they did that to this Revology car, this 1965 Mustang.

00:12:51.000 They built one that was on right-hand drive, and I'm looking at it, and I'm like, this is all so screwy.

00:12:55.000 Why would people not come to an agreement on which side of the road to drive on all over the world?

00:12:59.000 It's very strange that they just stick with it.

00:13:02.000 Yeah, and it differs.

00:13:03.000 In Europe, it differs from country to country.

00:13:06.000 Yeah, it's almost an ego thing now, right? 1.00

00:13:08.000 Where they're like, nah, fuck, it refused to change. 0.99

00:13:10.000 Ah, most of the world's on the left, though, man. 1.00

00:13:12.000 We don't care.

00:13:12.000 Yeah.

00:13:13.000 Well, Germany makes the best cars, or some of the best cars.

00:13:17.000 For sure.

00:13:17.000 They're on the left.

00:13:18.000 Europe makes the best cars, and they're on the left, right?

00:13:22.000 America makes some pretty good cars, but really the reality is they can't go toe-to-toe with Europe.

00:13:27.000 They just can't.

00:13:28.000 Dude, I was at this private car dealer, and there's those Paganis. 1.00

00:13:34.000 Have you ever seen those?

00:13:35.000 That's like a million-dollar car, right?

00:13:37.000 Yeah.

00:13:38.000 Some of them are, you know, you're looking...

00:13:40.000 Six, seven million dollars.

00:13:41.000 Paganis.

00:13:42.000 There's Bugattis, the rare brand new Bugatti.

00:13:46.000 And then there's all these limited edition Ferraris and Lamborghinis.

00:13:49.000 And he goes, oh, Floyd bought that one.

00:13:51.000 You can send it, though.

00:13:51.000 He won't care if you can send it.

00:13:52.000 And it was all like carbon fiber.

00:13:54.000 And I was like, how much is it? 0.86

00:13:55.000 And whatever the new Bugatti is, but there's a markup on them because there's only like 20 of them where the fuck it is. 0.87

00:13:59.000 And it was so expensive, I got nervous. 0.92

00:14:01.000 I went, I'm good, man.

00:14:02.000 He goes, you know what I'm saying?

00:14:03.000 I went, nah, I don't feel comfortable.

00:14:04.000 I'm good.

00:14:05.000 I just didn't feel comfortable opening this thing.

00:14:07.000 I don't know.

00:14:08.000 I felt very- It's a couple million dollars.

00:14:10.000 Yeah.

00:14:11.000 It's crazy that you could buy a car that's worth more than most people's houses.

00:14:15.000 99% of the world's houses.

00:14:17.000 Yeah.

00:14:18.000 99.9% of the world's houses.

00:14:19.000 Yeah.

00:14:20.000 And you're just twerking that thing around.

00:14:22.000 Yeah, and you're just driving around in this thing that you can't even sleep in.

00:14:25.000 And then most... 0.99

00:14:26.000 You can't do shit. 0.99

00:14:28.000 You can't shower. 1.00

00:14:28.000 Drive fast as shit. 1.00

00:14:30.000 Drive fast as shit. 1.00

00:14:31.000 25G's just to change the tires, though. 1.00

00:14:33.000 Is it really?

00:14:34.000 Yeah, every year.

00:14:35.000 That's hilarious.

00:14:35.000 If you're driving it.

00:14:36.000 Is this it right here?

00:14:38.000 Do you see how it's already scratching?

00:14:40.000 Go back to the beginning of that video.

00:14:42.000 Look at the underside.

00:14:43.000 The underside of that thing is jacked. 0.96

00:14:45.000 And that's all carbon fiber, so he scratched the fuck out of it, man. 0.87

00:14:48.000 Yeah. 0.88

00:14:49.000 Well, those cars, they scratch every time you hit a bump, every time you go over curbs.

00:14:54.000 And that's the old one, Jamie.

00:14:56.000 When I have my little red car, the little red Porsche, every time I leave the comic store, it's scrape.

00:15:01.000 Yeah.

00:15:01.000 It's embarrassing.

00:15:02.000 It's annoying.

00:15:03.000 And it's so sad.

00:15:04.000 It's sad.

00:15:05.000 I didn't mind the other day.

00:15:05.000 I was taking my dad to get ice cream.

00:15:07.000 I hit the front of my car.

00:15:09.000 Scrape.

00:15:09.000 Ruined my night.

00:15:10.000 Ruined my night.

00:15:11.000 My dad goes, what do you want? 1.00

00:15:12.000 I don't give a fuck. 1.00

00:15:13.000 Damn. 1.00

00:15:13.000 I was so disappointed. 1.00

00:15:14.000 So sad.

00:15:15.000 I know.

00:15:15.000 It's just a car though, right?

00:15:16.000 It is just a car.

00:15:18.000 What's the problem with nice things?

00:15:19.000 They become little velvet prisons.

00:15:20.000 But you gotta drive them. 0.94

00:15:22.000 Like the dealer I was talking to where all these freaking dudes buy these million dollar cars. 1.00

00:15:27.000 He's like, you know what bothers me is they don't drive them.

00:15:29.000 None of them drive them.

00:15:30.000 For them it's investment and then they flip them years from now.

00:15:34.000 He goes, we want people that drive the cars.

00:15:36.000 And now what Ferrari's doing, if you want an Enzo, you want a certain limited run TDF or the Pizza, if you want some of those real limited edition ones, they look at your history because you have to own the past 10 Ferraris.

00:15:47.000 Yeah, they have a weird curriculum if you want to get a special limited edition.

00:15:51.000 But now they check if you've driven it.

00:15:53.000 If you're just a collector, they don't sell them to you anymore.

00:15:56.000 Oh my god.

00:15:57.000 Certain ones, they go back and look at your history.

00:15:58.000 You have to own all the old Ferraris to qualify to buy a Ferrari?

00:16:03.000 Certain Ferraris.

00:16:04.000 To get on the accolation, like on the list.

00:16:07.000 So if you want the new, whatever, the super fast, the limited TDF they're going to do, you have to own all the V12s and certain ones before that.

00:16:16.000 That is hilarious because that just shows you how goofy people are.

00:16:20.000 Like, they know that people are goofy, and they know that all you have to do is, like, sneak in on them some sort of exclusive thing that nobody else can have, so when you roll up on it, you look like a champ.

00:16:30.000 And no one else does.

00:16:31.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:16:32.000 Even if it sucks. 0.98

00:16:33.000 Even if it's a sucky car. 0.96

00:16:34.000 You know why I like it, though?

00:16:35.000 Why?

00:16:35.000 Because some, let's say some billionaire, rich billionaire, where his daddy gave him all his money, he can't roll in the front and be like, I'll take that.

00:16:42.000 That's kind of cool.

00:16:44.000 Nah.

00:16:44.000 Now, it's a little extreme with the 10 and you gotta own all the V12s.

00:16:48.000 Nah.

00:16:48.000 But, what do you mean?

00:16:50.000 They can suck it. 1.00

00:16:51.000 You don't like it? 1.00

00:16:51.000 Nah. 1.00

00:16:52.000 Is it because you can't?

00:16:52.000 Well, you probably, I don't know.

00:16:54.000 I mean, who knows?

00:16:55.000 You get it used, though.

00:16:56.000 That's the thing.

00:16:57.000 You just buy it used, though.

00:16:58.000 Alright, cool, dude. 1.00

00:16:59.000 That fuck's gonna buy it unless you get it from him. 1.00

00:17:01.000 You're not gonna stop it. 1.00

00:17:03.000 It's like illegal streaming. 1.00

00:17:04.000 You guys are just dumb business people. 1.00

00:17:05.000 How about you make more cars, stupid? 1.00

00:17:07.000 Well, no, you don't want to become a Tesla or Prius. 1.00

00:17:10.000 How much can they sell?

00:17:28.000 I don't think they want that, though.

00:17:31.000 If everyone can have it, you don't want it, right?

00:17:33.000 That's just weird, man.

00:17:34.000 Girls are that way with purses. 1.00

00:17:36.000 You ever talk to girls about certain purses? 0.96

00:17:37.000 Oh, for sure.

00:17:38.000 They get weird about purses.

00:17:39.000 It's so hard to get that purse.

00:17:40.000 I'm like that with shoes, though.

00:17:41.000 I want the exclusive shoes.

00:17:43.000 But you're kind of like that.

00:17:44.000 With what?

00:17:44.000 You're knocking it, but you're kind of like that.

00:17:46.000 What am I like about?

00:17:46.000 Well, with your custom cars, one of the reasons that make it really cool is you're not going to see that custom car anywhere else.

00:17:53.000 That is specifically designed by you.

00:17:56.000 That's true, but that's not why I like it.

00:17:58.000 What I like it is because you can get something that you can't get anywhere else.

00:18:01.000 That's what I'm saying!

00:18:02.000 As far as performance.

00:18:05.000 Like when I get a Shark Works car, like the white car, that car, you can't just get that car.

00:18:11.000 It's a six-speed manual.

00:18:12.000 They don't make six-speed manual GT3 RSs anymore.

00:18:15.000 It has a 518 horsepower engine.

00:18:18.000 You can't get that.

00:18:18.000 They board it out.

00:18:20.000 They put fatter tires in it.

00:18:21.000 They beefed up the suspension.

00:18:23.000 They changed everything.

00:18:24.000 For sure, but like your Bronco.

00:18:26.000 Exhaust, right?

00:18:26.000 Yeah, okay.

00:18:27.000 It's pretty custom.

00:18:28.000 Can't buy those.

00:18:29.000 Can't buy them.

00:18:30.000 Right.

00:18:30.000 But, honestly...

00:18:31.000 Custom for Joe.

00:18:32.000 That car is like...

00:18:34.000 That's a cool-looking car.

00:18:35.000 Hell yeah, it is. 1.00

00:18:36.000 But if you had to drive that every day, you'd probably blow your fucking brains out. 1.00

00:18:39.000 Unless you're one of those renegade dudes. 0.99

00:18:41.000 Like Lorenzo Lamas back in the day.

00:18:43.000 Wore cowboy boots, dusting his hair.

00:18:45.000 I feel like Tate Fletcher would drive that every day.

00:18:47.000 At the end of 2017, the total of Ferrari built and sold cars in the whole company history is $199,000.

00:18:54.000 So $200,000.

00:18:56.000 Ever.

00:18:57.000 You said $200,000 a year, but you were close.

00:18:58.000 Wow, I was way off.

00:19:00.000 That would be like $8,000 to $10,000 a year, it looks like.

00:19:03.000 See, that's dope! 0.62

00:19:05.000 That's why it's so hard to get one.

00:19:07.000 Yes.

00:19:07.000 Yeah.

00:19:08.000 It's kind of cool.

00:19:09.000 Yeah, look, it is definitely cool.

00:19:11.000 It's a cool car.

00:19:13.000 I mean, there's a reason why people want them. 0.96

00:19:15.000 They don't want shitty cars. 0.73

00:19:16.000 No, they're a good car. 0.95

00:19:18.000 I wouldn't mind...

00:19:19.000 I think it's a 4...

00:19:22.000 I don't know if it's a 4.8, but they did make that in manual when it's so expensive.

00:19:28.000 What I like about, like, custom cars is that they're mechanical.

00:19:31.000 Like, when I talk about, like, muscle cars or Porsches or stuff like that, what I like is that they're mechanical.

00:19:37.000 Yeah.

00:19:37.000 Like, they're all stick shifts, manual transmissions.

00:19:40.000 You feel the gears and you feel the...

00:19:42.000 I like that.

00:19:44.000 I love that.

00:19:45.000 Yeah.

00:19:45.000 I'm into that for whatever reason.

00:19:47.000 But I'm also into that fucking Tesla. 0.99

00:19:49.000 That Tesla's got me hooked. 1.00

00:19:51.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:19:53.000 That thing puts a smile on my face.

00:19:54.000 Does it really?

00:19:55.000 Oh my god.

00:19:55.000 More so than when you're Porsches?

00:19:57.000 Nope.

00:19:57.000 There you go.

00:19:58.000 Not more so.

00:19:59.000 Oh man, it's gonna walk out.

00:20:00.000 Different smile.

00:20:01.000 Different smile.

00:20:01.000 Yeah, it's like, wow, the future's weird.

00:20:03.000 Yeah.

00:20:03.000 Because it's just, it's so much more capable.

00:20:06.000 No, no, no, no.

00:20:07.000 It's not ferocious.

00:20:09.000 Ferrari's ferocious.

00:20:12.000 That noise, the engine, the explosions behind your ear, mid-engine car, that's a different thing. 0.98

00:20:18.000 A muscle car, that rumble, the fucking big-ass V8, and the fat tailpipes, that's a different feel. 0.98

00:20:26.000 Completely different. 0.99

00:20:27.000 Yeah, what you get from a Tesla is like, whoa. 1.00

00:20:29.000 Every other car just seems stupid. 0.98

00:20:31.000 It's like you're just making a lot of noise, but this thing just goes quicker. 1.00

00:20:35.000 It goes places.

00:20:37.000 What the Tesla does, it violates what you think the laws of driving are in terms of how quick a car can get from there to there.

00:20:46.000 And it does it with no sound.

00:20:47.000 So it's just strange.

00:20:48.000 There's no torque or anything, right?

00:20:49.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.

00:20:51.000 It's like a thousand foot-pounds of torque.

00:20:53.000 But isn't it just like a video game?

00:20:55.000 It throws you back like the craziest roller coaster you've ever been in.

00:20:58.000 Yeah.

00:20:58.000 It goes zero to 60 in 2.4 seconds.

00:21:01.000 You have the ludicrous one? 0.87

00:21:02.000 Yeah. 0.97

00:21:02.000 That's all. 0.97

00:21:03.000 I always leave it on ludicrous. 1.00

00:21:04.000 I never switched off that shit. 1.00

00:21:06.000 Like, why would I? I don't drive it. 1.00

00:21:08.000 You don't have to drive it like an asshole, but when you want to, it's right there. 1.00

00:21:11.000 Is it using up more of the electricity? 1.00

00:21:13.000 Oh yeah, it eats that battery. 0.95

00:21:15.000 It eats that battery, kid.

00:21:16.000 If you want to drive...

00:21:17.000 What do they say it gets 317 miles? 1.00

00:21:20.000 My ass. 1.00

00:21:20.000 Like grandma drives. 1.00

00:21:22.000 Yeah, like daddy drives, it gets like 170. Like daddy drives.

00:21:26.000 It might get 170 the way I drive.

00:21:29.000 They were saying that...

00:21:31.000 People applying for a driver license, especially kids.

00:21:33.000 Like our kids?

00:21:34.000 I don't know if they're even going to be into cars.

00:21:36.000 I was talking to my dad.

00:21:37.000 I went, how cool is it?

00:21:39.000 He's been in all these cool cars.

00:21:41.000 Hopefully he's into cars when he gets older.

00:21:42.000 And my dad's like, yeah, maybe.

00:21:44.000 If he even wants a driver license.

00:21:45.000 Because now it's so low of kids passing a driver license test.

00:21:48.000 Because they just Uber everywhere.

00:21:49.000 They're like, what?

00:21:51.000 Why do I pay for a car?

00:21:52.000 I'm just getting Uber, man.

00:21:53.000 That is a great thing that you don't have to think about.

00:21:54.000 That does help a lot.

00:21:57.000 You don't think about drunk, being drunk, driving drunk, going to someone's house after the bar.

00:22:03.000 It's cool it's an option, but it's not cool that kids...

00:22:06.000 There's some freedom about driving.

00:22:09.000 There's a good feeling if you're into it.

00:22:10.000 There's also the problem with things like Uber is you're going to get into a car with a person that you don't know.

00:22:16.000 And I'm sure most of them are great.

00:22:19.000 I'm sure. 0.96

00:22:20.000 But every now and then, you're going to get into a car with someone who's fucking nuts, and they're going to have some crazy political podcast on, want to talk to you about Hillary Clinton's emails. 0.96

00:22:29.000 There's an option now, you know that? 0.97

00:22:30.000 You can click, they don't talk to you.

00:22:32.000 Do you want them to talk?

00:22:33.000 No.

00:22:34.000 That's a new option they're doing.

00:22:35.000 They don't have to abide by it, I don't think.

00:22:36.000 It's like a preference for the rider.

00:22:39.000 Like, hey, by the way, as I get in your car, I really would prefer you don't talk to me. 1.00

00:22:42.000 But the driver is like, you're in my car, fuck you. 0.99

00:22:44.000 Yeah, but most drivers, you're like, oh, he clicked don't talk? 1.00

00:22:47.000 If he's like, hey, did you see the don't talk?

00:22:50.000 The move is, hey, you got music up there, can you turn it up?

00:22:53.000 Then they usually don't talk.

00:22:54.000 But there has been a thing, to your point, where...

00:22:57.000 There's been people faking the Uber drivers, putting the sign on, and murdering women.

00:23:02.000 There's that.

00:23:03.000 Yeah, there has been that.

00:23:04.000 I heard about that recently.

00:23:05.000 Dude, I've been in this, and I've been having terrible dreams.

00:23:08.000 I need to get off of it or just figure out how to deal, manage it better.

00:23:11.000 But I was doing a show on Sirius with Jim Norton, and he brought in this, the guy who basically created Mindhunter.

00:23:19.000 He was this, like, he's interviewed all the serial killers and speaks to him.

00:23:22.000 And they brought him in.

00:23:23.000 I think his name's John Douglas.

00:23:25.000 They brought him in.

00:23:26.000 He's just talking.

00:23:26.000 It was fascinating.

00:23:28.000 I was like, oh, shit. 1.00

00:23:28.000 So I got his book. 1.00

00:23:29.000 Almost finished his book.

00:23:31.000 I'm like, this is great, man.

00:23:32.000 And then started listening to a podcast he's on.

00:23:35.000 It's just about murder and death.

00:23:37.000 And I started looking up all this Charles Manson stuff.

00:23:39.000 And I've been having awful nightmares.

00:23:41.000 And been a little depressed.

00:23:42.000 And you know me, it's very rare I'm down. 0.99

00:23:45.000 It's just a dark fucking world, man. 1.00

00:23:47.000 Yeah, you watch those true crime shows, it'll fuck your head up. 1.00

00:23:50.000 Dude, it makes you scared of everything. 0.99

00:23:52.000 But it's also going on.

00:23:54.000 It's going on in very small numbers.

00:23:58.000 Very, very small numbers.

00:23:59.000 But it is going on. 0.96

00:24:01.000 What it is, is people that have been abused, people that have been fucked up, psychopaths, and people that have been through the correction system, through the penal system. 0.97

00:24:10.000 Yeah, that's a lot of it. 0.98

00:24:11.000 It's so dark, man.

00:24:12.000 There's not that many of them.

00:24:13.000 And this guy has three daughters.

00:24:15.000 I was like, how can you...

00:24:16.000 He was talking about this seven-year-old terrible story.

00:24:19.000 And I was like, how can you go home, man, and sleep?

00:24:22.000 He's like...

00:24:23.000 Eventually, you know, it's just a job.

00:24:24.000 Like, it does affect me a little bit.

00:24:26.000 I'm like, do you just lock up your kids?

00:24:28.000 Like, just from hearing you, I don't want my son going to school.

00:24:32.000 I don't want him leaving.

00:24:33.000 He's like, nah, he learned to manage it.

00:24:34.000 And he did say that.

00:24:35.000 He's like, this is the exception.

00:24:36.000 Like, there's some dark stuff out there.

00:24:38.000 But these gentlemen, he interviewed Charles Manson.

00:24:41.000 He was saying how he's 5'2", and he always has to speak over you, no matter what's going on.

00:24:45.000 So they're in this room.

00:24:47.000 There's three people.

00:24:48.000 And Charles Manson, he got on a chair and stood over and shouted down to him.

00:24:52.000 What was he saying? 1.00

00:24:53.000 I'm probably trying to convert him into a fucking cult. 1.00

00:24:56.000 You made me, man! 1.00

00:24:57.000 You people who made me eat your garbage, man! 1.00

00:25:00.000 Hey, man! 1.00

00:25:00.000 Man! 1.00

00:25:02.000 I'm a product of your society, man. 1.00

00:25:05.000 He's fucking crazy. 1.00

00:25:06.000 He was crazy. 1.00

00:25:07.000 He has a quote that I was reading. 0.85

00:25:09.000 Again, I'm too into it, man.

00:25:10.000 I'm quoting Charles Manson, what's going on with my life. 0.94

00:25:13.000 He was saying that it used to be like, you were the exception when you're crazy. 0.93

00:25:17.000 Now everybody's crazy. 0.83

00:25:19.000 That's what Manson was saying?

00:25:20.000 Yeah.

00:25:20.000 He's like, it used to be kind of cool, the end thing to be crazy.

00:25:23.000 Now, in society, everybody's crazy.

00:25:25.000 Well, he made it popular. 1.00

00:25:26.000 The fuck? 1.00

00:25:27.000 Do you know how popular that fucking crazy serial killer is and all his followers? 1.00

00:25:31.000 Oh my god. 0.99

00:25:32.000 Even to this day, like I was reading this article in Rolling Stones, how many books and even merch and to buy locks of his hair is 50 grand.

00:25:40.000 It's going for 50 grand to buy locks of his hair.

00:25:43.000 And how he sells merch.

00:25:44.000 That's insane.

00:25:45.000 50 grand for locks of his hair?

00:25:46.000 Yeah.

00:25:47.000 How much is a lock?

00:25:48.000 What does that get you?

00:25:50.000 I don't know.

00:25:51.000 I lost out on the bid.

00:25:53.000 Cut a lock in half?

00:25:55.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:25:56.000 Joe, let's split it.

00:25:57.000 Put it in here, bro.

00:25:58.000 Who's to say how many hairs is in a lock?

00:26:00.000 It could be a big piece, though. 1.00

00:26:01.000 What if he shaves his balls and you give a saran wrap baggie of his pubes? 0.99

00:26:05.000 How much does that work? 1.00

00:26:05.000 100 G's? 1.00

00:26:06.000 Probably.

00:26:07.000 100 G's, dude. 0.99

00:26:09.000 Charles Manson dick piece? 0.99

00:26:11.000 He was married when he died. 1.00

00:26:13.000 The crazy bitches find serial killers in jail and marry them. 1.00

00:26:16.000 Happened with Richard Ramirez, the Night Stalker. 1.00

00:26:19.000 There's some sexual thing to it, right?

00:26:21.000 Yeah, some women want to be around killers. 1.00

00:26:25.000 And even in particular, guys have killed women.

00:26:29.000 How crazy is that?

00:26:31.000 It's very crazy.

00:26:32.000 Can you imagine when your daughters, when they're, let's say, 22...

00:26:35.000 Marries a serial killer?

00:26:36.000 In prison?

00:26:38.000 At least you know she's not going to die, but it's safe. 1.00

00:26:41.000 Look, there's people out there, I don't have to tell you, that do a fucking terrible job of raising their kids. 0.99

00:26:46.000 You know, it's one of the reasons why people like you, people like me, people that get into being a parent, that really enjoy it, When you see something like that, it's even more disturbing because you know that when you see a serial killer or someone who's fucked up, that person was a baby that had a terrible life. 0.99

00:27:02.000 Almost always. 0.92

00:27:03.000 They just got a shitty roll of the dice. 0.99

00:27:04.000 They got bad parents. 0.99

00:27:05.000 It's usually the moms. 1.00

00:27:06.000 It's the relationship with the moms that fuck them up. 0.99

00:27:08.000 Not so much the fathers. 0.99

00:27:09.000 Usually it's the mother-son relationship.

00:27:13.000 Really?

00:27:13.000 Yeah.

00:27:14.000 Usually always mother-son and that's what usually causes the horrible- That's why Norman Bates from Psycho was so dead on, right?

00:27:21.000 Yep.

00:27:21.000 He's dealing with his mom.

00:27:22.000 He's the one who literally, he's Jeffrey Dahmer, Charles Manson.

00:27:28.000 When there's something, like he was talking about JonBenet, which, you know, I'm from Denver, went to Squim, Boulder.

00:27:32.000 That was the JonBenet Ramsey murder case was such a big deal.

00:27:36.000 They still can't sell that house.

00:27:37.000 They can't sell it.

00:27:39.000 I had a buddy, my strength coach, Doc Crease, rented it. 0.99

00:27:42.000 He was like, ah, fuck a ghost, and moved in there. 0.99

00:27:44.000 Like, right after the murders. 1.00

00:27:47.000 Anyway, so...

00:27:48.000 How did he handle it?

00:27:49.000 Did he freak out?

00:27:50.000 No, he's cool.

00:27:51.000 He's from Louisiana, like, real tough dude. 0.99

00:27:53.000 Didn't give a fuck. 1.00

00:27:54.000 He says he didn't give a fuck. 1.00

00:27:54.000 They're missing a chromosome down there. 1.00

00:27:56.000 Yeah, you'd be pretty crazy to move in there.

00:27:58.000 It was a great deal, and it was a great spot.

00:28:01.000 Yeah, it was for sale for years.

00:28:03.000 For years.

00:28:03.000 They might have knocked it down.

00:28:05.000 They should.

00:28:05.000 I drove to the O.J. Simpson.

00:28:07.000 They should knock it down.

00:28:08.000 They should take out all the dirt and replace it with new dirt. 0.66

00:28:10.000 Yeah, they should just knock down everything. 0.97

00:28:12.000 Just knock it down and dig a hole all the way to hell. 1.00

00:28:15.000 Whatever the fuck dirt was there. 1.00

00:28:16.000 It's so dirty, man. 1.00

00:28:17.000 But that dude, he was just talking, talking.

00:28:21.000 And it was fascinating.

00:28:22.000 I didn't say a word.

00:28:23.000 And then we went to JonBenet.

00:28:24.000 I'm like, ooh, I'm going to chime in here because I know this case and I know it well.

00:28:28.000 And Jim asked him a question.

00:28:29.000 It was like, my time to jump in?

00:28:30.000 I go, yeah, but...

00:28:33.000 Yeah, but it's probably the parents, right?

00:28:34.000 Or maybe the son?

00:28:36.000 And he hasn't acknowledged me this entire interview.

00:28:38.000 I don't know if Jim noted this.

00:28:40.000 And he goes, what'd you say? 0.99

00:28:44.000 And I could tell I fucked up. 0.99

00:28:45.000 I go, it's probably the parents or the son, right? 0.99

00:28:48.000 And he goes, absolutely not.

00:28:50.000 Absolutely not, Brendan.

00:28:51.000 And then goes on how ridiculously of an assumption that is.

00:28:55.000 And I go, well, who does he think did it?

00:28:57.000 Uh, he was, it's not them.

00:28:59.000 And he goes, the problem is the narrative that got painted outside of that when the media was going crazy and even the Boulder police, he goes, they were so far off and he listed like 10 reasons why it wasn't them. 0.96

00:29:13.000 And I kind of felt like an idiot. 0.89

00:29:15.000 I went, very cool. 0.96

00:29:16.000 I'll buy the book. 0.99

00:29:16.000 I'm going to shut the fuck up now. 0.99

00:29:18.000 The only problem was that a handwriting expert had connected the mother's handwriting to the ransom note. 0.99

00:29:25.000 Dude, get him on this podcast. 0.95

00:29:26.000 It'd be fucking fascinating. 0.95

00:29:27.000 He's doing promotion right now. 0.97

00:29:28.000 I mean, I have no idea who killed JonBenet Ramsey.

00:29:30.000 Johnny Douglas.

00:29:31.000 This guy does.

00:29:31.000 But I do remember.

00:29:32.000 I don't think he knows.

00:29:33.000 No, no.

00:29:33.000 He knows it.

00:29:34.000 He can tell you from his 70 years of experience dealing with murders, it's not the parents.

00:29:40.000 But he had evidence why it wasn't.

00:29:42.000 Because I said the same things, right?

00:29:43.000 I'm balls deep in JonBenet.

00:29:45.000 I grew up around it.

00:29:45.000 It was such a culture phenomenon.

00:29:47.000 Did he say who he thinks it is?

00:29:49.000 Yeah, he did.

00:29:49.000 I forget.

00:29:50.000 But it's not the parents.

00:29:51.000 Someone who's alive?

00:29:53.000 I don't know.

00:29:53.000 You gotta have him on.

00:29:55.000 I'm telling you, I've listened to a shitload of shows, and I was so into this, man.

00:30:00.000 I didn't even promote my special.

00:30:01.000 I was there to promote my special.

00:30:02.000 I didn't say a word. 1.00

00:30:03.000 I made one stupid comment about JonBenet's family, and then he was like, shut the fuck up. 1.00

00:30:07.000 Those fucking shows are very compelling, man. 1.00

00:30:09.000 Why do you think that is? 1.00

00:30:10.000 You watch those true crime shows?

00:30:11.000 Why am I drawn to... 0.99

00:30:13.000 Am I fucked up? 1.00

00:30:14.000 Why am I drawn to this serial killer shit? 1.00

00:30:16.000 Well, if you are fucked up, you're just like everybody else. 1.00

00:30:19.000 Why do I buy Carl Manson's pubes on eBay? 1.00

00:30:21.000 How much do you pay?

00:30:23.000 70 G's, man.

00:30:25.000 Can you imagine?

00:30:27.000 70 G's, but his pubes, they plucked them out so it has some DNA in them.

00:30:31.000 Dude.

00:30:31.000 You could recreate Charles Manson.

00:30:32.000 What is this?

00:30:33.000 Charles Manson's hair.

00:30:34.000 $2,400.

00:30:36.000 That's a steal!

00:30:36.000 This is for a bag of hair off the head of Charles Manson.

00:30:39.000 It was obtained July 2016 from an associate of Charles Manson.

00:30:43.000 Oh no, that's weak, dude.

00:30:44.000 A COA. A certificate of authenticity will be included upon purchase.

00:30:49.000 By the way, there are no certificates of authenticity when it comes to Charles Manson's hair.

00:30:54.000 It's not like there's an accrediting body.

00:30:56.000 It's DNA. We go over every aspect of this purchase.

00:31:02.000 That shit's weak, though, man. 0.99

00:31:03.000 You want that 1970s hair strain. 1.00

00:31:04.000 You don't want the updated shit. 0.99

00:31:06.000 You want to be there when he cuts it off, really. 0.99

00:31:09.000 Yeah, you want to film him cutting it off, and then you want to vacuum seal it, and sign it, and film the whole thing. 0.98

00:31:16.000 You put it in one of them fucking vacuum bags, and then seal it. 0.98

00:31:20.000 Yeah, that way, no one's touched it, chopped right off his hair. 0.99

00:31:23.000 You got video footage of it.

00:31:24.000 You got video footage of him autographing the bag. 0.99

00:31:28.000 What the fuck is wrong with us? 0.98

00:31:29.000 Why are we talking about this? 0.99

00:31:30.000 It's fascinating to me.

00:31:32.000 Did you watch the Game of Thrones finale?

00:31:33.000 Did you get bummed out?

00:31:35.000 You know what?

00:31:36.000 Just like somebody else wrote it.

00:31:37.000 I think they did.

00:31:38.000 Yeah, it's very strange.

00:31:39.000 I thought they did.

00:31:39.000 I loved, I did like season eight and I was good as the other seasons.

00:31:42.000 Hey, let's fucking get everybody know right now. 0.83

00:31:45.000 Spoiler alert. 0.99

00:31:46.000 Hold up.

00:31:47.000 What is today?

00:31:48.000 Thursday?

00:31:49.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:31:49.000 But some people have jobs.

00:31:50.000 Is it Sunday?

00:31:50.000 Some people have jobs, Brendan.

00:31:52.000 Sunday?

00:31:52.000 Some people work all day.

00:31:53.000 Four days?

00:31:54.000 Some people work all day.

00:31:55.000 I heard the New York Times put it on the front page of the paper on Monday.

00:31:58.000 Yeah, we're clear, bro.

00:31:59.000 It's a serious finale.

00:32:00.000 I think you're allowed to.

00:32:00.000 Yeah, but they did that because they can do that.

00:32:03.000 Not because they should do that.

00:32:04.000 Nah, whatever.

00:32:05.000 The next day's a little fun.

00:32:06.000 Well, I think movies, you got a week.

00:32:09.000 Movies, you got a week.

00:32:11.000 TV show, Two days. 1.00

00:32:13.000 Damn. 1.00

00:32:14.000 Especially for that... 1.00

00:32:15.000 What, are we not supposed to talk about it because you're busy?

00:32:17.000 That's insane.

00:32:18.000 Yeah.

00:32:18.000 Did you like it?

00:32:19.000 That's exactly what it is.

00:32:20.000 No.

00:32:20.000 I didn't...

00:32:21.000 I left unsatisfied.

00:32:22.000 I left unsatisfied. 0.99

00:32:23.000 When they made, spoiler alert, Homeboy the King, I was like, what in the fuck are you talking about? 0.98

00:32:29.000 He didn't want it. 0.99

00:32:29.000 The whole fucking season. 0.99

00:32:31.000 All of a sudden, everybody's fighting to the death over who's the king. 1.00

00:32:34.000 They're ready to stab their brother, kill their mom. 1.00

00:32:37.000 They'll kill anybody. 1.00

00:32:39.000 They'll betray lovers. 0.68

00:32:40.000 But now, this guy's like, alright, I'll take it.

00:32:43.000 Everyone's like, you should be the king.

00:32:45.000 They're like, okay.

00:32:46.000 They all agree.

00:32:47.000 And how about that one guy that just stood up and is like, maybe I could be the king.

00:32:50.000 They're like, sit down. 1.00

00:32:51.000 She said, sit down, bitch. 1.00

00:32:52.000 What is this? 1.00

00:32:52.000 The Sopranos? 1.00

00:32:53.000 Like, what are you doing?

00:32:54.000 It was strange.

00:32:55.000 Who is this guy?

00:32:55.000 Who is that guy?

00:32:57.000 Bobby Lee had the greatest, I thought it was such a good ending.

00:32:59.000 So he says when everyone goes, you know, when they're deciding to be the king and then homeboy who's crippled is like, I'll do it. 0.98

00:33:06.000 And then when they're wheeling him away, he just looks over and he has the fucking White Walker eye. 0.98

00:33:11.000 Ooh, that would work. 0.99

00:33:12.000 And then it closes.

00:33:13.000 You know what should happen?

00:33:14.000 That's Bobby Lee's idea. 1.00

00:33:15.000 Jon Snow should have fought to the death with that dude who has an old dick. 1.00

00:33:18.000 Yeah! 1.00

00:33:19.000 I want to see that shit, dude. 1.00

00:33:20.000 They should have fought to the death. 1.00

00:33:21.000 They hated each other.

00:33:22.000 Yeah, they hated each other.

00:33:22.000 And how about that dude who was just like, cool, we'll let you go.

00:33:24.000 He was just like, yeah, you killed my girl.

00:33:26.000 See ya.

00:33:26.000 No big deal.

00:33:27.000 What the fuck? 1.00

00:33:27.000 You get on the boat. 1.00

00:33:29.000 What the fuck is that, dude? 0.99

00:33:30.000 There's no way. 1.00

00:33:31.000 They should have fought to the death.

00:33:32.000 100%.

00:33:32.000 Did you like episode three?

00:33:34.000 I'll tell you what I like.

00:33:35.000 I like when the Hound knocked the mountain off into the fire.

00:33:39.000 That was dope.

00:33:40.000 That was poetic justice.

00:33:42.000 And he died by fire?

00:33:43.000 That was a dope scene. 1.00

00:33:44.000 That shit was dope! 1.00

00:33:46.000 The best scene in the whole fucking series, though, was when... 1.00

00:33:49.000 No, the best scene in the whole fucking series when she was telling that dude that he betrayed her, and then from the darkness, the dragon's face appears. 0.99

00:33:57.000 And you're like, oh, Jesus. 0.98

00:34:00.000 This is where I was a powerful scene. 0.96

00:34:02.000 Those dragons are so fucking cool. 0.96

00:34:04.000 They're so scary. 0.86

00:34:04.000 I'm so happy there's people out there that do special effects like that. 0.86

00:34:08.000 That shit was dope. 0.99

00:34:09.000 Because it used to be kind of like semi-corny. 1.00

00:34:12.000 Super corny.

00:34:13.000 Yeah.

00:34:13.000 You remember what was that movie?

00:34:14.000 There was a good dragon movie with Matthew McConaughey.

00:34:17.000 Back when Matthew McConaughey was jacked. 1.00

00:34:19.000 Oh, fuck. 1.00

00:34:20.000 Someone just brought this up on the show. 1.00

00:34:22.000 And Homeboy from Australia was in it, too.

00:34:24.000 Batman. 1.00

00:34:25.000 Fuck's his name. 1.00

00:34:25.000 Oh, fuck. 1.00

00:34:27.000 What's his name? 1.00

00:34:28.000 Christian Bale.

00:34:29.000 Christian Bale was in it, too.

00:34:30.000 Rain of Fire.

00:34:30.000 What is it called?

00:34:31.000 Rain of Fire?

00:34:31.000 Rain of Fire.

00:34:32.000 Yeah.

00:34:32.000 The dragons in there were corny compared to the Game of Thrones dragons.

00:34:36.000 It has to be believable, dude.

00:34:37.000 Let me see a video.

00:34:39.000 That poster looks sick. 0.63

00:34:40.000 Obviously we can't show it on the podcast or we'll get arrested and castrate us.

00:34:44.000 Joe Carnahan was just talking about this. 0.99

00:34:46.000 Bro, this fucking movie was not a bad movie. 0.99

00:34:48.000 It was a little corny. 0.99

00:34:49.000 But for a dummy like me who really likes dragons, it was great stuff. 0.81

00:34:53.000 It was an interesting movie.

00:34:55.000 But the dragons, it's just crazy how much...

00:34:58.000 Because I want to say this was probably 2004. Am I correct?

00:35:02.000 Before that.

00:35:02.000 2002?

00:35:04.000 I was pretty close.

00:35:05.000 Yeah, pretty close, dude.

00:35:06.000 You've been on today.

00:35:06.000 But the difference between what the dragons looked like 17 years later in terms of special effects.

00:35:13.000 Oh, dude, even dinosaurs from Dress Park 1 to Dress Park World?

00:35:16.000 Yeah, look at them.

00:35:17.000 They're not showing you much.

00:35:19.000 That's the dragon's vision, though. 0.99

00:35:21.000 It's kind of gay. 0.99

00:35:24.000 Why is the dragon's vision homosexual? 1.00

00:35:26.000 See, when I said that, I'm like, why did I say that?

00:35:29.000 Because you're a man, and we've been doing this our whole lives, and we have to relearn it.

00:35:32.000 I know.

00:35:33.000 We've got to reprogram our brains, dude.

00:35:35.000 How about with Charlamagne? 1.00

00:35:36.000 I said, bitch. 1.00

00:35:37.000 I went, oh, that bitch is hot. 1.00

00:35:38.000 And he goes, in 2019, you're still calling women bitches, huh? 1.00

00:35:42.000 I went... 0.99

00:35:43.000 No.

00:35:45.000 But you were.

00:35:46.000 But yes.

00:35:46.000 Yeah.

00:35:47.000 But when he said that, I went, you got a good point. 1.00

00:35:50.000 Sometimes I do it on accident, like when we're watching Fight, when we do a Fight Companion, I go, damn, that bitch is tough. 1.00

00:35:54.000 Yeah, but you don't, it's all, here's the thing, man. 0.99

00:35:57.000 Context.

00:35:57.000 Yes.

00:35:58.000 Don't make more words toxic.

00:36:01.000 It's all about intent.

00:36:03.000 What are you trying to say?

00:36:04.000 If a girl is a beast, and she's just a badass woman, and she walks out, and she's got... 1.00

00:36:12.000 I'm good, I'm good.

00:36:13.000 And she's got this crazy tight skirt on, this banging body that she's worked hard at in the gym, and she's got a beautiful dress, and she looks great. 1.00

00:36:21.000 You're like, damn, that bitch is hot. 1.00

00:36:23.000 That is not negative. 1.00

00:36:24.000 It's not negative.

00:36:26.000 Is it derogatory, though?

00:36:27.000 But does it... 1.00

00:36:27.000 No, but it's not negative if you go, you fucking silly bitch to me, I'll laugh. 1.00

00:36:32.000 I'll fall down on the floor, I'll start laughing. 1.00

00:36:33.000 Like, you can call me a bitch and I think it's funny. 1.00

00:36:36.000 Yeah, me too. 0.99

00:36:37.000 But if you're like, hey man, you know, you fucking made fun of me on the podcast, bro. 1.00

00:36:41.000 That was a bitch move. 1.00

00:36:42.000 I'd be like, hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 0.99

00:36:44.000 But it's different. 1.00

00:36:45.000 Same thing as like, if a car drives by, I'd be like, damn, that motherfucker's bad. 1.00

00:36:49.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:36:49.000 But if the guy rolled down as well, I was like, hey, motherfucker. 1.00

00:36:52.000 Right, right, right. 0.99

00:36:52.000 It's like, all right, difference. 0.99

00:36:53.000 Different.

00:36:54.000 Yeah, it's intense.

00:36:55.000 The problem is when you have a word you can't say. 0.98

00:36:59.000 The word has too much goddamn power. 0.92

00:37:01.000 It's not that you should say the word. 0.98

00:37:02.000 Don't get me wrong.

00:37:03.000 There's certain words you probably shouldn't say because we've all agreed that those words have a negative impact on people.

00:37:10.000 The F word probably, right?

00:37:11.000 F-A-G. That's probably one we stay away from. 1.00

00:37:13.000 We've all agreed.

00:37:14.000 Yeah, we've all agreed it has a negative impact on people.

00:37:17.000 But the real problem is intent.

00:37:20.000 The real problem is homophobic behavior in that, or homophobic thinking, homophobic ideology, thought processes, thinking that gay people are bad, thinking there's anything wrong with being gay. 0.75

00:37:31.000 That's the real problem.

00:37:33.000 If there was no problem with that at all, I mean, I just feel like...

00:37:38.000 I feel like it's not the right move to make words the problem.

00:37:43.000 The problem is the way people think and behave, and I think ultimately there's a real problem with language itself, because I think language is too limited.

00:37:50.000 I think when you have magic words that you can't say, and they have all this extra power connected to them...

00:37:56.000 To give some power, yes.

00:37:56.000 But Lenny Bruce talked about that in the 60s.

00:37:59.000 He had a great bit about that, about saying all these words, because you can take away the meaning of them, and it won't hurt anybody's feelings anymore.

00:38:05.000 But don't you think... 0.97

00:38:07.000 Let's say you are a homosexual and gay, that's what we refer to you as. 1.00

00:38:12.000 Gay is such a negative connotation. 0.99

00:38:14.000 Because growing up, gay meant not good. 1.00

00:38:17.000 So I'd be like, God, you look gay, dude. 1.00

00:38:18.000 Or, oh, that car's gay. 0.99

00:38:20.000 Right, right, right. 0.99

00:38:22.000 That's the problem.

00:38:23.000 It's so ingrained in my vernacular, though.

00:38:25.000 And the problem is it's such a good sound for that thought.

00:38:29.000 It's a fun word. 1.00

00:38:31.000 The same thing is like calling someone a faggot. 1.00

00:38:33.000 You faggot. 1.00

00:38:33.000 Like that word. 1.00

00:38:35.000 Like when you say it like that.

00:38:36.000 Even if it's your friend.

00:38:37.000 Like your best friend.

00:38:38.000 It's got that sound.

00:38:40.000 Why does it make us laugh?

00:38:41.000 Because it sounds good.

00:38:42.000 It's got a pop to it.

00:38:43.000 There's power with that. 1.00

00:38:45.000 It starts with a fuck you. 1.00

00:38:47.000 It starts with an F. It's so. 1.00

00:38:49.000 Yeah.

00:38:50.000 Crack.

00:38:51.000 Bang! 1.00

00:38:51.000 And it has zero to do with being gay. 1.00

00:38:54.000 But you can't say it anymore. 0.97

00:38:55.000 Because it hurts gay people's feelings. 1.00

00:38:57.000 Like when Mike Tyson goes, I'm going to fuck you until you love me, faggot. 1.00

00:39:01.000 Right, right, right. 1.00

00:39:02.000 That makes sense. 1.00

00:39:03.000 You're going to fuck that guy and call him a faggot. 1.00

00:39:05.000 But you're trying to fuck him. 1.00

00:39:07.000 Who was the fucking reporter he was yelling at? 1.00

00:39:10.000 He was a sheriff. 1.00

00:39:11.000 Terrified.

00:39:11.000 Who is that reporter?

00:39:13.000 Because that guy, did he vanish off the face of the earth after that?

00:39:16.000 I would like to know who that guy was.

00:39:18.000 I was ringside when Deontay Wilder knocked out Brazil.

00:39:21.000 I was in Brooklyn for that with my brother.

00:39:23.000 Bro.

00:39:24.000 Dude.

00:39:24.000 Bro.

00:39:25.000 Dude.

00:39:26.000 That guy.

00:39:27.000 I've been in fights.

00:39:29.000 I've been knocked out.

00:39:30.000 I've been at UFC fights where dudes get knocked out.

00:39:33.000 I have never in my life heard someone get knocked out like that.

00:39:37.000 My brother goes, oh my god.

00:39:38.000 And my brother's a raw dude.

00:39:40.000 He goes, oh my god.

00:39:42.000 And they sat us next to his family.

00:39:44.000 And it ruined it for me.

00:39:46.000 You can't cheer?

00:39:47.000 I saw the wife.

00:39:48.000 I just went, oh my god.

00:39:51.000 I wouldn't cheer anyway.

00:39:52.000 But I was just like, oh my god.

00:39:54.000 And this is the funniest part is, my boy, shout out to Brian Daly at Showtime, goes, so in between rounds, probably two and three, Jim Gray's going to come and interview you about your Showtime special.

00:40:05.000 I go, Oh, that'd be cool.

00:40:06.000 They tell me the day before, so I get this nice outfit.

00:40:08.000 My brother's looking all fresh.

00:40:09.000 Did you really think it was going to get to round two or three?

00:40:10.000 I thought it was going to go under four.

00:40:12.000 I didn't think one round, but I thought there was a chance.

00:40:15.000 They sent me there, and they're like, Jim Gray's going to come, and then, all right, we should probably get out of here, huh?

00:40:20.000 We should probably get out of here.

00:40:21.000 Deontay.

00:40:22.000 Dude, I'm telling you, man.

00:40:23.000 He's something special.

00:40:24.000 He's so special, man.

00:40:25.000 He's such a good dude.

00:40:27.000 You've had Fury on here.

00:40:29.000 I had him on, too.

00:40:30.000 He was amazing.

00:40:31.000 He's great.

00:40:31.000 We had a great time.

00:40:32.000 How passionate is he?

00:40:33.000 He's a sweetheart.

00:40:34.000 He's a really nice guy, too. 0.97

00:40:35.000 That was my problem with him going, oh, I want to murder this guy. 0.99

00:40:39.000 I want to kill this guy. 0.99

00:40:40.000 And I want to exercise my right. 1.00

00:40:41.000 I'm like, ah.

00:40:42.000 I expect that from these...

00:40:44.000 For lack of a better term, these animals, these guys who aren't at your level, but he's such a good person.

00:40:49.000 I'm like, ah, dude, don't do that.

00:40:50.000 Because they can paint you into that box.

00:40:52.000 I believe that's going to just go away.

00:40:54.000 Oh, it did.

00:40:55.000 It's gone now.

00:40:55.000 It's gone.

00:40:56.000 It's gone.

00:40:56.000 His performance is so spectacular.

00:40:58.000 I think it goes away.

00:40:59.000 But I think it's also, that was his legitimate mindset at that time.

00:41:02.000 You know, I mean, that guy, if you listen to my podcast when I interviewed him and talked about how he got into boxing because of his daughter...

00:41:09.000 Do you do it on yours as well?

00:41:10.000 Talk about that?

00:41:11.000 That's a special person, man.

00:41:13.000 I mean, he became a bronze medalist in the Olympics after a year and a half of boxing.

00:41:17.000 That's insane.

00:41:18.000 That's how special he is.

00:41:19.000 That's insane, man.

00:41:20.000 You've got to imagine, if he was in a year and a half of boxing and he's entering into the Olympics, he's going to be having matches against guys who have 10 years experience.

00:41:28.000 Easy.

00:41:28.000 Hundreds of fights more than him.

00:41:29.000 Hundreds of fights.

00:41:30.000 Amateur fights.

00:41:30.000 Yeah, and he's got, like, virtually no experience, and he's not, like, the slickest guy in the world either, so he has to be able to take a shot, but he's got two giant advantages.

00:41:41.000 Huge reach, and ridiculous power.

00:41:44.000 And... 0.87

00:41:46.000 Athleticism.

00:41:47.000 Yeah, and I think because of the fact that he's not a big heavyweight, I don't think he gets as tired as they do.

00:41:52.000 I agree.

00:41:53.000 But he came in this last fight, the heaviest he's ever been, he came in at 223 and went, that's interesting, because he's usually 214, 213. Dude, look at this.

00:42:02.000 That motherfucker, he punches so hard, man. 0.99

00:42:05.000 He's the scariest heavyweight knockout artist since Mike Tyson. 1.00

00:42:09.000 100%.

00:42:10.000 When he was walking out, I looked at my brother, I went, you know how you feel right now?

00:42:15.000 You get goosebumps?

00:42:16.000 I went, imagine being on Mike Tyson fighting in his prime. 1.00

00:42:18.000 How that fucking crowd must have felt. 0.99

00:42:20.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:42:21.000 Because when he was walking out, I felt so bad for Brazil.

00:42:23.000 Because we're next to his family.

00:42:25.000 I'm like, he's such an underdog.

00:42:26.000 He's going to get knocked out.

00:42:27.000 It was just a weird feeling.

00:42:28.000 I think we're going to see that with Deontay Wilder.

00:42:31.000 I think Deontay Wilder is the new Mike Tyson.

00:42:33.000 100%.

00:42:33.000 I think he's the new Mike Tyson.

00:42:34.000 He hits that hard. 1.00

00:42:35.000 And what's interesting about him is everyone gives me shit. 1.00

00:42:37.000 They're like, you're such a homer because you work for Showtime. 1.00

00:42:39.000 No, no, no, no.

00:42:40.000 Here's the thing about that, Joe.

00:42:41.000 What people don't realize is Deontay, while his fights are on Showtime, he's an independent contractor.

00:42:47.000 He doesn't have a promoter.

00:42:49.000 He's his team.

00:42:50.000 So DAZN offered him hundreds of millions of dollars, same as they offered Joshua and Canelo.

00:42:55.000 He turned it down. 0.99

00:42:56.000 Damn. 0.99

00:42:56.000 You know why? 0.99

00:42:57.000 Because he wants to fight Joshua.

00:42:59.000 He wants to fight Fury.

00:43:00.000 He goes, well, if I'm with them, that's going to limit me fighting Fury or Joshua.

00:43:03.000 If I'm independent, I can fight Joshua.

00:43:05.000 I can fight Wilder.

00:43:07.000 If I was Joshua or Wilder, I'd be terrified right now.

00:43:10.000 Why do you think they...

00:43:11.000 I mean, not Wilder, rather, Fury.

00:43:13.000 Joshua or Fury.

00:43:13.000 I'd be terrified of that mindset.

00:43:15.000 It's definitely easier fights.

00:43:16.000 Yeah.

00:43:17.000 He's the scariest fighter of all time. 0.99

00:43:18.000 In the fucking 12th round, when he cracks Tyson Fury and drops him like that, in the 12th round, he still has this ridiculous power. 0.96

00:43:26.000 And he's only getting better, but I think what happens is it's more likely, especially looking at the way promoters work, you're going to get Joshua versus Wilder before you get Fury. 0.96

00:43:36.000 Oh, I think so.

00:43:37.000 I think so.

00:43:39.000 I'll take any of them.

00:43:40.000 Yeah, I'm fine.

00:43:41.000 But I want all three of them.

00:43:42.000 I do. 1.00

00:43:43.000 These fucks owe it. 1.00

00:43:44.000 These fucks. 1.00

00:43:45.000 It's context, remember? 1.00

00:43:46.000 These fucks owe it to boxing. 1.00

00:43:48.000 Yes. 1.00

00:43:49.000 To the legacy of boxing to fight each other.

00:43:51.000 Well, it's one of those rare moments in the heavyweight division where you have three unbelievably compelling guys.

00:43:56.000 And then one of them was a former champion who, by the way, the last fight was a draw and I thought he should have won a decision.

00:44:02.000 So if you look at it, I thought he should have won a decision, but I agree with the result.

00:44:08.000 Me too.

00:44:08.000 Well, it's real squirrely.

00:44:10.000 Preach.

00:44:10.000 Because the way Wilder hurt him, dropped him, and then knocked him down and almost had him flatlined in the 12th, and if you go over the actual count, the actual 10 count from 1 to 10 from the time he dropped, which is not what Tyson Fury's job is.

00:44:27.000 Tyson Fury's job is to get up and the referee says 9, and he did that.

00:44:31.000 He did that.

00:44:31.000 But if you go by an actual clock.

00:44:32.000 11 or 12, isn't it?

00:44:34.000 Yeah, you go by an actual clock.

00:44:35.000 It's about 11 or 12 seconds.

00:44:36.000 Yeah, Tyson Fury lost that 10 count.

00:44:39.000 But Fury won the rounds.

00:44:40.000 Yes.

00:44:41.000 Fury won more rounds.

00:44:41.000 Hands down, he outboxed him.

00:44:43.000 But you're right.

00:44:43.000 That count was longer than 10. Yeah, he should have.

00:44:47.000 If you were just going by 10 seconds, Deontay Wilder has a real argument that he should have won by knockout.

00:44:52.000 Here's the thing.

00:44:53.000 That's why I like the draw.

00:44:54.000 Yes.

00:44:55.000 That's why the draw's fantastic.

00:44:56.000 Perfect.

00:44:56.000 Cool.

00:44:57.000 Run it back.

00:44:57.000 Let's get a clear winner.

00:44:58.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:44:59.000 And then Joshua, who's this animal out there, who's just this fucking, he's so damn good. 0.98

00:45:04.000 He's just like, all right, let's do this. 0.99

00:45:05.000 Honestly, though, what the fuck is a 10 count for if it's not 10 seconds? 0.93

00:45:09.000 Why does the referee get to make the count? 0.97

00:45:11.000 Human error. 0.98

00:45:11.000 There should be in every fucking corner, every corner, wherever the fight is, there should be a clock. 0.98

00:45:17.000 And then when someone goes down, someone else, not the referee, hits that button. 0.98

00:45:22.000 This guy has 10 seconds.

00:45:23.000 What?

00:45:24.000 One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, two, three, four, five.

00:45:30.000 But he goes, one.

00:45:31.000 Not only that, he's jacked up with adrenaline.

00:45:33.000 There's a huge knock out the crowd.

00:45:35.000 He might want a guy to get up.

00:45:36.000 He might want a guy to get up.

00:45:37.000 He might want to help him.

00:45:38.000 He might take extra time to rub the gloves on his chest.

00:45:42.000 Ask him a couple questions.

00:45:43.000 Are you okay?

00:45:44.000 Walk towards me.

00:45:46.000 Walk towards me.

00:45:46.000 What's today's date?

00:45:47.000 You can do all that shit. 1.00

00:45:49.000 You can give him a little bit of a break. 1.00

00:45:50.000 Do you like the human error part?

00:45:52.000 Same with baseball. 0.99

00:45:53.000 The umps, they fuck up all the time. 1.00

00:45:56.000 Dude, the greatest of the greats, like Herb Dean and John McCarthy, have made mistakes. 0.99

00:46:01.000 It is impossible to not. 0.99

00:46:03.000 Herb Dean is the goddamn gold standard. 0.98

00:46:06.000 He's the best of the best of people working today. 0.98

00:46:08.000 And he will occasionally say that he made an error.

00:46:11.000 John Doddard.

00:46:11.000 Amazing.

00:46:12.000 Amazing. 1.00

00:46:13.000 Fucks up. 0.98

00:46:14.000 People make mistakes. 1.00

00:46:15.000 They're human beings.

00:46:16.000 Isn't it fun, though?

00:46:17.000 Bro, their job is so... 0.98

00:46:19.000 I fuck up all the time when I do commentary, and their job is so much harder than mine. 0.99

00:46:22.000 So much harder. 0.98

00:46:23.000 All I'm doing is talking while the fight's going on.

00:46:26.000 They're deciding if the fight ends.

00:46:28.000 I disagree. 1.00

00:46:29.000 You're the voice to the fucking masses, bro. 0.99

00:46:32.000 It's not that hard to do. 1.00

00:46:33.000 Go watch another organization.

00:46:35.000 Go watch another...

00:46:36.000 Or when you're not working...

00:46:37.000 But I'm not being humble.

00:46:38.000 I'm not being humble.

00:46:39.000 I'm just telling you.

00:46:40.000 I'm doing that for you, brother. 0.99

00:46:41.000 I'm telling you, it's a tough fucking gig. 1.00

00:46:43.000 Go watch another fight. 0.99

00:46:45.000 Go watch DAZN when Canelo fought.

00:46:47.000 It was so bad, it was comical.

00:46:50.000 Who was doing the commentary?

00:46:51.000 Not sure.

00:46:52.000 Doesn't matter.

00:46:53.000 Not good.

00:46:54.000 It was so bad it ruined the fight.

00:46:56.000 Nah, kind of.

00:46:57.000 It was so bad it was entertaining.

00:46:58.000 They were so pro Canelo and it wasn't professionally done. 0.99

00:47:02.000 You know who I like that is in a world of shit right now? 0.99

00:47:07.000 You talking MMA or boxing? 1.00

00:47:09.000 Boxing.

00:47:09.000 Who?

00:47:10.000 Paulie Malignaggi.

00:47:11.000 Oh, he's the best.

00:47:12.000 Why is he spitting on people?

00:47:14.000 What's he doing?

00:47:15.000 He's a great commentator, man.

00:47:17.000 To me, he's the best.

00:47:20.000 I think my number one favorite...

00:47:22.000 Here's my three top that I get excited when they're doing it.

00:47:26.000 Roy Jones Jr., Andre Ward, and Paulie Malignaggi.

00:47:29.000 I think Andre and Paulie, they're both...

00:47:33.000 You can switch out to people you like.

00:47:34.000 The reason why I like Roy...

00:47:36.000 I don't like Roy.

00:47:37.000 Too biased.

00:47:38.000 Yeah, that's okay, though.

00:47:39.000 This is why. 1.00

00:47:41.000 When he was at his best, he was the motherfucker of all motherfuckers. 1.00

00:47:46.000 He was like Floyd Mayweather, but he was knocking people dead. 1.00

00:47:49.000 He was putting his hands behind his back and knocking people out. 0.99

00:47:53.000 He was doing shit that no one could do. 1.00

00:47:55.000 He was fucking people up. 1.00

00:47:57.000 Roy Jones Jr. went on a streak for a long time where he was... 0.99

00:48:01.000 He had this freak athleticism and this...

00:48:04.000 He didn't even throw jabs half the time.

00:48:06.000 Don't you think it's underappreciated?

00:48:07.000 Oh my god, so...

00:48:08.000 Because the end of his career...

00:48:10.000 Well, you know, when Glenn Johnson KO'd him, when Magic Man KO'd him...

00:48:15.000 Yeah, but that was...

00:48:16.000 But he had this run of greatness that we should appreciate.

00:48:19.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:48:20.000 Like, when I think of Anderson Silva, I don't think of him bitching out because his knee got kicked against Cononeer.

00:48:25.000 No, no. 0.98

00:48:26.000 I think of Anderson Silva fucking front-kicking Vitor Belfort. 0.99

00:48:29.000 Of course. 1.00

00:48:29.000 Front-kicking fucking, you know, all these guys. 1.00

00:48:31.000 Of course. 1.00

00:48:32.000 I think of that.

00:48:32.000 Yeah, of course.

00:48:33.000 So it's weird with Roy...

00:48:35.000 I think because he just got knocked down in Russia like six days ago or whatever.

00:48:39.000 Did he really?

00:48:39.000 No, but he recently got knocked down in Russia.

00:48:41.000 I thought he won his last fight.

00:48:43.000 I think he won his last fight.

00:48:43.000 I don't know.

00:48:44.000 It's not good though, hopefully.

00:48:46.000 See, Pauly's amazing though.

00:48:48.000 But Pauly, when he was going to fight that bare knuckle, I went on a little bit of rant.

00:48:55.000 Me and Pauly are close, man.

00:48:56.000 I went on a rant saying, I don't think he should do it.

00:48:59.000 I feel like he's punching down.

00:49:00.000 He's one of the best commentators.

00:49:02.000 He has a job so many people want.

00:49:03.000 Then, of course, me and Pauly work together, so we're breaking down the Wilder-Brazil fight in New York, and there was this weird...

00:49:10.000 Pauly's going to hear this.

00:49:11.000 I felt like there was this weird kind of...

00:49:14.000 Well, of course.

00:49:15.000 I mean, you're telling him not to do something that he's definitely going to do.

00:49:17.000 Yeah, I know.

00:49:18.000 So you're resisting his idea.

00:49:20.000 But if I was doing something you didn't want me to do, if you're doing something and we have an open conversation, there's no weirdness.

00:49:26.000 Like, why can't we talk about it? 0.98

00:49:27.000 If Pauly went up to me and was like, dude, I'm doing it because I'm going to knock this fuck out, dude, and hopefully I get McGregor out. 0.99

00:49:32.000 And also, I'm just kind of bored with my life, man. 0.99

00:49:34.000 This could be fun for me.

00:49:34.000 I went, oh, cool, man.

00:49:35.000 I support you.

00:49:36.000 I'm not shaming him.

00:49:38.000 I agree with you. 0.93

00:49:38.000 I feel where you're coming from and I agree that I would want you to tell me if you thought I was fucking up and it was a bad idea. 0.93

00:49:44.000 But I think that with a guy like him, I don't know what kind of options he has. 0.91

00:49:52.000 Nobody's beaten down his door to fight him.

00:49:53.000 I know that Conor didn't want to fight him.

00:49:55.000 He wasn't interested in that.

00:49:57.000 I don't know what other options he's got.

00:49:59.000 He retired from boxing.

00:50:00.000 But also, he's one of the greatest analysts in the game.

00:50:03.000 But if he's going to fight a bare-knuckle boxing fight, there's got to be a financial motive for that.

00:50:09.000 I would hope.

00:50:10.000 The only thing that makes sense is that that's a financial motive.

00:50:13.000 But listen, Showtime pays him well.

00:50:17.000 Really?

00:50:17.000 Yeah, man.

00:50:18.000 So it's like, to do that, you know, you look at the payday, like Artem made, I think, $50,000 for the last fight.

00:50:24.000 So let's say they pay him triple.

00:50:26.000 Let's say they pay him quadruple. 0.99

00:50:27.000 Let's say he's making, what is that, fucking $250,000. 0.97

00:50:31.000 Is that enough to do a bare-knuckle fight when you're making six figures? 0.99

00:50:34.000 Yeah.

00:50:34.000 You know?

00:50:35.000 You could get your face fucked up, too. 1.00

00:50:37.000 That's the reality of those knuckles, man. 1.00

00:50:39.000 I'm changing my tune a little bit, but not all the way, but a little bit.

00:50:42.000 Oh, come on, you gotta change your tune, Joe, a little bit.

00:50:44.000 But here's the thing.

00:50:46.000 You do get cut up more in bare-knuckle boxing, but you're also not kicking or using takedowns or anything else in bare-knuckle boxing.

00:50:54.000 I think it'd be way more brutal if there was takedown and kicks.

00:50:58.000 Maybe.

00:50:59.000 I don't think the best guy wins also in Bare Knuckle.

00:51:02.000 Why is that?

00:51:02.000 Because, you know, Pauly has way more fighting experience than Artem, right?

00:51:06.000 So he's got more scar tissue.

00:51:07.000 So if there's a guy with a ton of scar tissue, your face opens up like a...

00:51:11.000 It looks like a murder scene.

00:51:12.000 It looks like a Charles Manson murder scene.

00:51:13.000 Because of the knuckles.

00:51:14.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:51:15.000 So you might land seven shots to his two, but your face is fucked up against the fight. 0.99

00:51:20.000 But listen, nothing cuts you up more than elbows. 0.99

00:51:22.000 And elbows are 100% legal in the UFC. They're hard to pull off, though.

00:51:26.000 Unless it's ground and pound.

00:51:27.000 Yeah.

00:51:28.000 Like, standing.

00:51:28.000 Like, I can't.

00:51:29.000 Like, old John can.

00:51:30.000 Like, he does that.

00:51:32.000 How about Johnny Walker?

00:51:33.000 Johnny Walker's got nasty elbows in the clutch. 1.00

00:51:35.000 Did he really get fucked? 1.00

00:51:35.000 Did he really hurt? 1.00

00:51:36.000 Because he didn't hurt from him at all, right?

00:51:38.000 I think he recovered.

00:51:39.000 Like, whatever was wrong with his shoulder recovered.

00:51:41.000 But the reality is, if you hurt yourself so bad that you can't move your arm afterwards, coming from someone who's had some shoulder injuries, that to me is like, you got some damage in there.

00:51:52.000 You know why else it's alarming? 0.99

00:51:53.000 Because when he did it, his adrenaline was so high, usually you can go through some shit. 0.99

00:51:58.000 If you got hurt bad enough where your adrenaline, I mean, you just won a huge fight, you're doing the worm after victory, and you can feel the pain, that's why, oh, fuck, there's probably damage there. 0.99

00:52:08.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:52:08.000 Because your adrenaline's so high, it numbs everything. 0.98

00:52:10.000 Just imagine if that winds up defining his career.

00:52:13.000 We've developed shoulder problems.

00:52:15.000 I hope not.

00:52:17.000 Glover's had some serious shoulder problems ever since the John fight.

00:52:20.000 He's also 70 years old.

00:52:21.000 How dare you?

00:52:22.000 He's been fighting in Brazil since he was three.

00:52:24.000 But when John grabbed his arm and yanked it, back when Glover was the top contender, remember?

00:52:29.000 Yeah, I remember. 0.99

00:52:29.000 John got him in that overhook and ripped his fucking arm up. 0.99

00:52:32.000 Bro, I never saw anybody do that before. 0.99

00:52:34.000 I was like, that's genius. 0.98

00:52:36.000 That's a really smart thing because you're fucking super vulnerable in that position. 0.96

00:52:40.000 No one really thinks about it. 0.98

00:52:41.000 He just grabs him.

00:52:42.000 Yep.

00:52:43.000 Just yanked it. 1.00

00:52:43.000 He fucked his shoulder up. 1.00

00:52:45.000 John's the goat. 1.00

00:52:45.000 Hands down. 1.00

00:52:46.000 Not even close.

00:52:47.000 Well, it's him and the best expression in terms of what I've seen in the octagon is Mighty Mouse, but he just didn't fight the level of competition.

00:52:55.000 Except for Cejudo. 0.99

00:52:57.000 We're finding out Cejudo's the fucking man. 0.99

00:52:59.000 Here's the thing with that, though, Joe. 0.99

00:53:00.000 We're definitely finding that out. 0.99

00:53:03.000 And Mighty Mouse, you know, I love fucking Mighty Mouse. 0.98

00:53:06.000 Him or John can do one or two. 0.97

00:53:08.000 The problem with him being number one is that weight class, the margin of error is way higher.

00:53:15.000 So if I zig left when I should have zigged right, I'm not getting knocked out.

00:53:18.000 I can learn from him to go back. 0.99

00:53:20.000 If John zigs left when she went right by Glover, he's getting knocked the fuck out. 0.99

00:53:24.000 Maybe. 0.98

00:53:24.000 The margin of error is so small. 0.98

00:53:26.000 John can take a shot, but if it's Rumble Johnson, he's getting knocked out.

00:53:29.000 Maybe.

00:53:29.000 Yeah.

00:53:30.000 We don't know.

00:53:31.000 John's that good.

00:53:32.000 That's true.

00:53:32.000 So when he beat Suhuda, right?

00:53:34.000 Suhuda had seven fights the first time.

00:53:36.000 Smoked him.

00:53:37.000 Suhuda gains experience, then he beats him.

00:53:40.000 Yep.

00:53:41.000 So the pound for pound, that takes a little off of Mighty Mouse.

00:53:44.000 But I think he's two.

00:53:45.000 Did you agree with the decision when Cejudo beat him?

00:53:47.000 It's so tough to tell, man.

00:53:49.000 It's tough. 0.99

00:53:50.000 It's fucking... 0.99

00:53:50.000 Listen, if they would have gave it to Mighty Mouse, I wouldn't have been mad at him. 0.99

00:53:53.000 I wouldn't have been mad at him.

00:53:54.000 Dude, how about your boy Sage?

00:53:56.000 No worth the cut.

00:53:57.000 Yeah, Cosmo Alexander. 0.83

00:53:59.000 Cosmo killed a guy. 0.99

00:53:59.000 He's a beast. 0.99

00:54:00.000 Did he?

00:54:01.000 Sage is still in the hospital.

00:54:02.000 17 fractures in his face.

00:54:04.000 Yeah, no, he's still in the hospital.

00:54:05.000 I thought you meant he actually killed a guy outside of that.

00:54:07.000 No, he basically did.

00:54:08.000 Because, you know, Sergey Kovalev did.

00:54:10.000 Yeah, I know.

00:54:11.000 Kovalev killed a guy in a fight.

00:54:13.000 Um...

00:54:14.000 Well, Cosmo Alexander is a world-class Muay Thai fighter.

00:54:17.000 I mean, John Wayne Parr fought him.

00:54:19.000 You know, he fought Nikki Holtzkin.

00:54:21.000 He's world-class.

00:54:22.000 As far as striking, it's a completely different level.

00:54:25.000 But I guess because it was an MMA fight, he was willing to take it.

00:54:28.000 But they fought stand-up.

00:54:30.000 Poor management.

00:54:31.000 And Sage took that karate stance. 0.99

00:54:35.000 And the dude circled off to his right and landed that fucking right hand and it was on the bazette. 0.99

00:54:40.000 That's the hardest right hand I've ever seen. 1.00

00:54:43.000 I can't think just from a world-class striker with four-ounce gloves on and he's circling into the right and it's like a fucking bomb. 0.99

00:54:52.000 It's pretty goddamn strong and Cosmo's a beast of a man. 0.99

00:54:56.000 I mean, he's a big, thick dude. 0.98

00:54:58.000 See, I mean, a big, thick dude with multiple world titles to his name.

00:55:03.000 Don't you feel bad for Sage?

00:55:05.000 Yeah, it's a terrible matchup.

00:55:06.000 I don't know why they agreed to let him fight that guy.

00:55:10.000 Boom! 0.99

00:55:10.000 It's just not smart. 0.99

00:55:11.000 Because that.

00:55:12.000 Because the kickboxing and the stand-up.

00:55:14.000 He doesn't have the experience to be in that.

00:55:16.000 No, no, no.

00:55:16.000 I mean, Sage is good.

00:55:17.000 He's very good.

00:55:18.000 But these kind of losses are terrible for his future.

00:55:23.000 Because they're mismanagement losses, in my opinion.

00:55:26.000 I agree.

00:55:26.000 I think, Sage is what, 22?

00:55:28.000 Like, look at that punch that lands.

00:55:29.000 I mean, that is ferocious.

00:55:31.000 From a world-class striker!

00:55:33.000 Yeah, I mean, that's full blast, dude.

00:55:36.000 That is a full blast shot.

00:55:37.000 That is a full circle right.

00:55:38.000 You can't get hit cleaner than that.

00:55:41.000 No, you can't even hit him. 1.00

00:55:42.000 It'd be hard to hit a fucking double and bag that hard. 0.99

00:55:43.000 But meanwhile, when he fought, you ever seen him when he fought Nicky Holtzkin? 0.99

00:55:48.000 Cosmo?

00:55:49.000 Yeah.

00:55:49.000 Yeah, he got out of class, for sure.

00:55:52.000 There's levels, but in MMA, Sage isn't even...

00:55:57.000 They shouldn't be sharing the same ring.

00:55:59.000 If I'm on championships, though, why would I bring this stud, this American stud who looks like Ryu from Street Fighter, and go, hey, first fight, here's the most world-class striker we got on the roster?

00:56:12.000 Well, because they want him to be tested.

00:56:14.000 And I think that if I was Chautry, I would be looking at it like this.

00:56:17.000 When a guy like Eddie Alvarez gets KO'd, or a guy like Sage Northcutt gets KO'd, or a guy like Mighty Mouse gets tagged and has a real fight on his hands, then you're showing the whole world.

00:56:28.000 Like, hey, these guys that are coming over here that are world-class fighters, they're fighting world-class fighters.

00:56:34.000 And they're getting knocked out.

00:56:36.000 I get that.

00:56:37.000 It's a great thing for them, I think.

00:56:40.000 So with Eddie Alvarez, veteran, he should be a Hall of Famer, Bellator champ, UFC champ.

00:56:46.000 Give him the best you got.

00:56:48.000 He's seen it all.

00:56:48.000 It's going to be tough to get one past him.

00:56:50.000 Sage Northcutt, Mighty Mouse, give him the best you got.

00:56:53.000 He's seen it all.

00:56:53.000 Good luck getting past him.

00:56:55.000 Sage Northcutt, you're investing in his future.

00:56:57.000 He's not ready.

00:56:58.000 That's a good point. 1.00

00:56:59.000 So you've kind of fucked him, man. 0.99

00:57:00.000 Also, you're trying to get in the American market. 0.99

00:57:02.000 But Cosmo's not an MMA fighter.

00:57:04.000 That's the thing.

00:57:06.000 This is Cosmo's first MMA fight.

00:57:07.000 What if Sage just takes him down and smashes him?

00:57:09.000 That would have been great.

00:57:10.000 Yeah, but I mean, that could have happened too.

00:57:12.000 That's not Sage style.

00:57:13.000 He's not a grappler.

00:57:14.000 Okay, but he knows how to grapple.

00:57:16.000 Sage is taking guys down in the octagon before.

00:57:17.000 Taking Cosmo down is easier than said. 0.95

00:57:19.000 He used to train with me and Rashad at Black's Aliens and fuck us up. 0.98

00:57:22.000 Did he? 0.99

00:57:22.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:57:23.000 It's a nightmare.

00:57:25.000 Yeah.

00:57:25.000 So when I saw it for Sage, I'm like, what?

00:57:28.000 Also, are you building Cosmo?

00:57:30.000 He's older, man.

00:57:32.000 Well, he's only 34. 37. 37?

00:57:35.000 Is he?

00:57:35.000 37 has 1,000 kickboxing matches?

00:57:38.000 Like, you're going to invest in that now?

00:57:41.000 From a business aspect, it doesn't make sense to me.

00:57:43.000 I think it does, though, because it shows, with two giant results over the last two months, that one has world-class talent there, and I think it makes people pay more attention to one.

00:57:55.000 Not me.

00:57:56.000 It put me off of him.

00:57:57.000 Really?

00:57:57.000 Yeah.

00:57:58.000 Oh, that's crazy. 1.00

00:57:58.000 I went, oh, that's fucked up. 1.00

00:57:59.000 No, see, listen, man. 0.99

00:58:00.000 I'm a sage man. 1.00

00:58:01.000 Cosmo is a fucking Muay Thai fighter. 0.99

00:58:03.000 I mean, that's his bread and butter. 1.00

00:58:05.000 He fights Muay Thai.

00:58:06.000 Stand-up's his bread and butter, yeah.

00:58:07.000 So when Cosmo goes and fights in an MMA fight, you would think at least in one area he's going to be at a disadvantage.

00:58:15.000 If Sage chooses to have a stand-up fight with a world-class stand-up fighter, that's just bad strategy.

00:58:21.000 That's Sage's game, though, especially as a young fighter.

00:58:24.000 It is his game, but he's a mixed martial arts fighter.

00:58:26.000 Then he should become a kickboxer.

00:58:28.000 If that's his game, it's just to stand up and strike with people, then just stay a kickboxer.

00:58:32.000 Listen, man, if you're going to fight in MMA, in MMA you could do everything.

00:58:37.000 What do you want to do in this fight?

00:58:38.000 Don't you want to win?

00:58:40.000 Okay, good.

00:58:40.000 I want you to win.

00:58:41.000 Here's how you win. 0.99

00:58:42.000 You don't stand with one of the best fucking strikers in the world. 0.99

00:58:46.000 How old is he? 0.99

00:58:47.000 22. Sage?

00:58:49.000 Come on.

00:58:49.000 Yeah.

00:58:50.000 But you just tell him.

00:58:51.000 This is an exercise and strategy.

00:58:53.000 You keep that side stance, that's fine. 0.91

00:58:56.000 Bait him in, but then shoot. 1.00

00:58:59.000 Just get the clinch and drag that motherfucker to the ground and let's wear him out. 1.00

00:59:02.000 I'm with you. 1.00

00:59:03.000 Which he's never done in any fight ever.

00:59:04.000 But he has taken guys down before.

00:59:06.000 Yeah.

00:59:07.000 But let's say you see your manager and they go, hey, here's Cosmo.

00:59:11.000 I go, hold on.

00:59:12.000 Let me go through this with you, Sage.

00:59:13.000 Pros.

00:59:14.000 You beat a straight world-class kickboxer in MMA. He's also 37 years old.

00:59:18.000 Not a lot of pros.

00:59:20.000 Cons.

00:59:20.000 Okay, but he's 37 years old.

00:59:21.000 You can't take him down. 0.99

00:59:22.000 He fucking starches you and your face gets broken 17 places and your career is probably... 1.00

00:59:27.000 Not going well. 1.00

00:59:28.000 The trajectory's definitely off the rails.

00:59:30.000 Pros, cons.

00:59:31.000 That's true.

00:59:32.000 It's just, if you look at the way boxing has always done it, and it's been often criticized, but there's some real good points to it about developing a fighter.

00:59:39.000 You give a guy, a fighter, a difficult fight that you think that he has the advantage in, but it's an advantage that will teach him some things.

00:59:46.000 Like, when the guy fights with him, what is this, Jimmy?

00:59:49.000 Cosmo's ninth fight was against Sage.

00:59:51.000 Oh, he's had a bunch of MMA fights?

00:59:53.000 Why did he say that on his...

00:59:54.000 And he knocks out everybody.

00:59:55.000 He said it on his...

00:59:57.000 I don't know.

00:59:58.000 His... 1.00

00:59:58.000 What the fuck? 1.00

01:00:00.000 His Instagram post about it. 1.00

01:00:01.000 He's no joke, man.

01:00:02.000 That he doesn't fight MMA. He's no fucking joke. 0.99

01:00:04.000 He's knocked everybody out almost. 0.99

01:00:05.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.

01:00:06.000 Yeah, start to everyone.

01:00:07.000 One championship goes, here you go.

01:00:09.000 Yeah, he looked...

01:00:09.000 It's been a couple years, I guess.

01:00:11.000 Oh, I see.

01:00:12.000 2016. Don't let that fool you though, man, because he's training with the best of the best as well.

01:00:16.000 Bottom line is, as a striker, he's superb.

01:00:20.000 But then the crazy thing is, pull up the Nicky Holtzkin fight.

01:00:23.000 Nicky Holtzkin knocks out Cosmo Alexandra.

01:00:26.000 That just shows you how many levels there are.

01:00:29.000 But then Nicky Holtzkin just lost to Regian Urso.

01:00:32.000 Just lost to him.

01:00:33.000 Got dropped with a knee. 0.99

01:00:35.000 It's so interesting, man, when you see levels upon levels upon levels, and you don't necessarily know that these levels even exist unless you're balls deep in the fucking sport. 0.95

01:00:46.000 You see a guy like Nicky, first of all, Nicky's one of the best body punchers in kickboxing. 0.90

01:00:52.000 Ever!

01:00:53.000 And this is a kickboxing fight as opposed to a Muay Thai fight as well.

01:00:56.000 So, no elbows, limited clinching, and you can only hold for like three seconds when you throw a knee.

01:01:04.000 You can only hold while you're...

01:01:08.000 Like, think one knee at a time or something like that.

01:01:10.000 They have weird rules, you know?

01:01:11.000 Here's the thing.

01:01:11.000 The fact that Cosmo Alexander went toe-to-toe with Nicky Holton, I'm probably going to pass on my young, 22-year-old, wide-eyed youngster fighting him.

01:01:20.000 Nicky Holton had an amazing career and glory, too. 0.97

01:01:23.000 Some fucking incredible fights. 0.92

01:01:24.000 The Joseph Valtellini fight where he knocked him out in the last round. 0.99

01:01:28.000 Yeah, he's a beast, man. 0.99

01:01:29.000 Super, super technical and just tough as shit. 0.99

01:01:33.000 Yeah, I mean, look at just the way these guys are standing in front of you. 0.98

01:01:35.000 They're just checking everything.

01:01:36.000 Look at the technique, bro.

01:01:37.000 Perfect technique.

01:01:37.000 It's insane.

01:01:38.000 Perfect defense.

01:01:39.000 Oh, we dropped him with that left hook. 0.99

01:01:41.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:01:41.000 Look, Holtzkin's a monster. 0.98

01:01:43.000 This is, by the way, a kickboxing fight.

01:01:45.000 Holtzkin also fought Cosmo Alexander and knocked him out in one FC. This is showtime in Amsterdam.

01:01:52.000 This is quite a few years ago. 1.00

01:01:54.000 It's Showtime was the shit, man. 0.99

01:01:56.000 You used to get it on AXS TV back when AXS TV was HDNet. 0.99

01:01:59.000 Do you remember that?

01:02:00.000 Mark Cuban's network. 1.00

01:02:01.000 Fuck, yeah. 1.00

01:02:02.000 HDNet was dope. 1.00

01:02:02.000 That MMA Live with Ron Kruk. 1.00

01:02:04.000 Yes.

01:02:05.000 I used to go on there all the time.

01:02:06.000 Boss Ruten.

01:02:07.000 Hell yeah.

01:02:07.000 And who's the other guy that Boss Ruten was on with?

01:02:09.000 Our boy Mauro Ranella.

01:02:11.000 No, no, no.

01:02:11.000 The other guy.

01:02:11.000 There was another guy who was on.

01:02:12.000 Kenny Rice.

01:02:13.000 Oh, Kenny Rice?

01:02:14.000 Kenny.

01:02:15.000 Kenny Rice.

01:02:15.000 Kenny Rice, yeah.

01:02:16.000 That's right.

01:02:17.000 Yeah.

01:02:18.000 Wasn't Mauro on there too for a long time?

01:02:19.000 I don't know.

01:02:21.000 Was Morrow on that?

01:02:22.000 Morrow was on there.

01:02:23.000 Am I going crazy? 0.99

01:02:24.000 You might be crazy.

01:02:25.000 Kenny was on there, though.

01:02:26.000 Kenny was definitely on there.

01:02:27.000 Ron Kruk was the best. 0.98

01:02:28.000 They used to have all these great kickboxing matches from Amsterdam and shit. 0.81

01:02:33.000 But you see ESPN now has PFL on it. 0.84

01:02:36.000 Oh, do they?

01:02:36.000 If you're balls deep in MMA, they have PFL. Morrow was on that, yeah.

01:02:41.000 He was on that.

01:02:42.000 I was on that a bunch of times.

01:02:44.000 I've been on it a couple times.

01:02:47.000 What?

01:02:48.000 For the first nine seasons, it was hosted by Kenny Rice.

01:02:51.000 Oh, and then Moral came on later?

01:02:53.000 Yeah, Kenny used to fly in from Kentucky, I remember.

01:02:57.000 Just fly in, do the show, fly back out.

01:02:59.000 I'm like, for sure, move here, huh?

01:03:00.000 Yeah, well, maybe he really likes Kentucky.

01:03:02.000 Yeah, he loved it.

01:03:03.000 Have to.

01:03:04.000 What do you like about it?

01:03:06.000 I don't know.

01:03:07.000 Kentucky Derby once a year.

01:03:08.000 Keep you there.

01:03:09.000 Is that what it is?

01:03:09.000 Bourbon.

01:03:10.000 I want to go to the Kentucky Derby.

01:03:11.000 Me too.

01:03:12.000 That's just crazy.

01:03:12.000 I want to take acid.

01:03:13.000 Yeah.

01:03:14.000 I'm so down for that.

01:03:16.000 And wear suits like Dumb and Dumber.

01:03:17.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:03:18.000 Yeah! 1.00

01:03:19.000 That shit would be dope. 1.00

01:03:20.000 Let's do it next year. 1.00

01:03:20.000 And get sloshed off fucking bourbon. 1.00

01:03:23.000 Yeah, next year. 1.00

01:03:24.000 Take acid and go to the Derby.

01:03:27.000 Check out that Buffalo Trace distillery or whatever.

01:03:30.000 Oh yeah.

01:03:31.000 Is it out there?

01:03:31.000 I don't want to be on acid at the Buffalo Trace distillery.

01:03:34.000 Dude, I drink whiskey almost every day now.

01:03:38.000 Really?

01:03:39.000 What's happening?

01:03:40.000 I don't know, dude.

01:03:41.000 I'm getting older.

01:03:42.000 I got the palate for whiskey.

01:03:44.000 Really?

01:03:44.000 A lot of stress.

01:03:45.000 What about cigars?

01:03:46.000 Do you like cigars?

01:03:46.000 Nope, not my thing yet.

01:03:47.000 I like olives.

01:03:48.000 I used to hate olives.

01:03:49.000 Love olives now.

01:03:50.000 And whiskey, dude.

01:03:52.000 I don't know why.

01:03:53.000 That's hilarious.

01:03:54.000 What whiskey is this?

01:03:55.000 I'm gonna have a little more, by the way.

01:03:57.000 What's it called again, Jamie?

01:03:59.000 Blanton's.

01:03:59.000 Yeah, that's Blanton's.

01:04:01.000 It is delicious.

01:04:03.000 Who brought us that?

01:04:04.000 I have no idea.

01:04:05.000 It could have been Sam Harris, but anybody could have brought it.

01:04:07.000 I don't remember, honestly.

01:04:08.000 This can't be cheap.

01:04:09.000 Just feeling this goblet that they got here.

01:04:13.000 This grenade goblet they got.

01:04:15.000 This Game of Thrones goblet is sick.

01:04:18.000 Dude, someone gave me Johnny Walker White Walker whiskey.

01:04:21.000 Shout out, Todd Feldman.

01:04:22.000 White Walker whiskey? 1.00

01:04:23.000 Bring that shit up, Jamie. 1.00

01:04:24.000 White Walker whiskey from Game of Thrones? 1.00

01:04:26.000 Limited edition. 0.86

01:04:26.000 I'm not drinking that zombie piss. 0.86

01:04:31.000 The bottle's so sick, I don't want people touching it. 0.88

01:04:33.000 Really?

01:04:34.000 Oh, it's a collector's item, man.

01:04:37.000 Collecting bottles of Game of Thrones.

01:04:40.000 Oh, my God. 1.00

01:04:40.000 I got that shit, bro. 1.00

01:04:41.000 Is it sold out? 1.00

01:04:44.000 They want a goddamn Enzo Ferrari. 0.99

01:04:46.000 Oh, they want you to have your birthday. 1.00

01:04:49.000 Mmm, John.

01:04:51.000 Dude, how dope is that?

01:04:52.000 That's pretty cool.

01:04:53.000 Johnny Walker's a White Walker? 1.00

01:04:54.000 Yeah, but what do you want to be aligned with the biggest fucking assholes in the realm? 1.00

01:04:58.000 Come on, Johnny Walker. 1.00

01:05:00.000 I wish they would have won.

01:05:01.000 What if Johnny Walker were the Nazis?

01:05:02.000 I wish they would have won.

01:05:03.000 Johnny Walker, Nazi vodka. 0.74

01:05:04.000 Would you buy that?

01:05:05.000 No. 1.00

01:05:06.000 Why the fuck are you buying White Walker whiskey? 0.99

01:05:08.000 Or White Walker bourbon or whatever it is. 1.00

01:05:11.000 It was a gift, bro. 1.00

01:05:12.000 Fuck that. 1.00

01:05:13.000 Fuck the White Walkers. 1.00

01:05:14.000 Can you drive my Ferrari home? 1.00

01:05:15.000 Bro.

01:05:16.000 For me.

01:05:16.000 Are you going to get hammered?

01:05:17.000 I wouldn't mind.

01:05:18.000 Stick around. 0.87

01:05:20.000 Shoot some arrows.

01:05:22.000 Shoot some arrows. 0.64

01:05:22.000 Get in the flow tank. 0.64

01:05:24.000 Relax, my friend.

01:05:26.000 Relax.

01:05:27.000 So, there's some other good fights that happened this weekend.

01:05:30.000 Oh, dude.

01:05:31.000 Rafael Dos Anjos versus Kevin Lee.

01:05:34.000 I didn't see it, bro.

01:05:35.000 It's how busy I've been.

01:05:36.000 I was at the Wilder fight.

01:05:37.000 I missed that.

01:05:38.000 I know Dos Anjos looked good and beat Kevin Lee.

01:05:40.000 Kevin Lee needs a new camp.

01:05:41.000 Kevin Lee needs a camp.

01:05:42.000 Yeah.

01:05:43.000 Yeah.

01:05:44.000 I think Kevin Lee should go to Farah Sahabi.

01:05:46.000 That's my advice.

01:05:47.000 Or Jackson's.

01:05:48.000 The reason why Farras Ahabi is because Kevin Lee's skill set is very similar to George St. Pierre's.

01:05:53.000 That's a good point.

01:05:54.000 Very good striking.

01:05:54.000 Athletic.

01:05:54.000 Very athletic.

01:05:56.000 Explosive.

01:05:56.000 And great timing with his takedowns.

01:05:59.000 Nobody knows how to coach that better than Farras Ahabi. 0.89

01:06:01.000 It's a good idea.

01:06:02.000 Yeah.

01:06:02.000 It's not bad at all.

01:06:03.000 That's what I think.

01:06:04.000 Oh, Aaron Pico just went to Jackson's.

01:06:06.000 Yes, I think that's a great move too.

01:06:08.000 Oh yeah, I hooked him up with my boy Vinny Shorman too.

01:06:11.000 So I told him that I think that he should go to Ferasa Hobbies and I told him about Vinny Shorman who's an incredible mental coach.

01:06:19.000 I do think he's going to be champ.

01:06:21.000 He's got all the tools.

01:06:21.000 I actually believe that.

01:06:22.000 If he gets his shit together and goes to a legit camp, because you remember his coach passed away, right? 0.99

01:06:27.000 Yes. 0.98

01:06:27.000 Robert Follis, who was very close to them. 0.98

01:06:29.000 Such a shame.

01:06:30.000 Amazing, amazing guy.

01:06:31.000 And so he passed away, and then it was like he was like, I'll just stay here and put together this kind of ragtag group, and we'll figure it out.

01:06:39.000 The UFC now is at such a high level to compete with the guys he's competing with.

01:06:43.000 You've got to have a good camp, man.

01:06:45.000 Like a legit coach, head coach, leader.

01:06:48.000 It's no disrespect to any small camps or small gyms that don't have the experience.

01:06:52.000 No, I'm not trying to be. 0.99

01:06:54.000 I'm just saying that an athlete has a small fucking window, man. 0.98

01:06:58.000 Like, Kevin is 26, right? 0.99

01:07:01.000 So he's got 10 years.

01:07:02.000 He's lost three out of his last four?

01:07:04.000 Yeah, not good. 1.00

01:07:05.000 UFC don't play with that shit. 1.00

01:07:06.000 And before that, he was beating guys in pretty spectacular fashion, right? 1.00

01:07:11.000 Robert Foles' death had a tremendous impact on him as a fighter, as a person.

01:07:16.000 And then he fought some really great fighters, too, on top of that, you know?

01:07:19.000 And Al Iaquinta, man, I mean, from the jump of that fight, from the get-go, when he hit him with that spinning backfist, he let him know, like, this is, you're in a dogfight, man.

01:07:26.000 Also, that Tony Ferguson fight was a dogfight.

01:07:28.000 A dogfight.

01:07:29.000 A dogfight.

01:07:30.000 Yeah, these guys have dogfights.

01:07:31.000 And when the Tony Ferguson fight, he had a staph infection clear, 100%.

01:07:35.000 Yeah, and he looked good, though.

01:07:36.000 Took Tony down, was on top, got choked out.

01:07:39.000 Got his mount. 0.99

01:07:40.000 Like, he looked fucking good, man. 0.98

01:07:41.000 Look, when you have, you've had staph before, right? 0.99

01:07:43.000 Yeah, it's awful.

01:07:44.000 And the way it drains your body.

01:07:46.000 It's the antibiotics that drains your body.

01:07:48.000 Well, the staff does, too.

01:07:49.000 I mean, if you get it to as far as where it is with him, he's in a full infection.

01:07:52.000 He has a full infection, so it's in his bloodstream, but the thing that fucks your cardio and your energy, like...

01:07:58.000 Like no other?

01:07:59.000 The antibiotics do. 1.00

01:08:00.000 Fuck you so bad. 1.00

01:08:01.000 They do. 1.00

01:08:01.000 But so does the staph. 1.00

01:08:02.000 Especially when it's that bad. 1.00

01:08:04.000 I mean, he's got a fucking giant squirrel growing out of his tit. 0.99

01:08:07.000 Remember that? 0.99

01:08:07.000 And they told DC not to say anything? 0.99

01:08:08.000 They told DC not to say anything.

01:08:09.000 I saw it immediately.

01:08:11.000 He walked in the octagon.

01:08:12.000 I'm like, he's got staph.

01:08:13.000 I go, that's staph.

01:08:14.000 And then I go, hey, DC. I go, is that staph?

01:08:17.000 That looks like staph to me.

01:08:18.000 And they go, do not talk about the staph.

01:08:21.000 He goes, that looks like staph to me, Joe! 1.00

01:08:24.000 He doesn't give a fuck. 1.00

01:08:25.000 I love him. 1.00

01:08:25.000 Like, bitch, you're talking to Daniel Cormier. 1.00

01:08:27.000 You can't help him not talk about staff. 1.00

01:08:29.000 The guy who knows staff better than anyone in that goddamn arena. 1.00

01:08:31.000 Get the fuck out of here. 1.00

01:08:32.000 It's staff. 1.00

01:08:32.000 He's a wrestling coach. 1.00

01:08:33.000 Listen, we would be doing a massive disservice to the viewing public if we didn't admit that it was staff.

01:08:38.000 It's part of the drama.

01:08:39.000 It's part of what makes the fights interesting.

01:08:41.000 But my take on Kevin Lee is he's a great guy.

01:08:44.000 I'm going to have him on again.

01:08:45.000 He's going to come on again soon.

01:08:46.000 He's the best.

01:08:47.000 He's a great person.

01:08:48.000 I like talking to him.

01:08:49.000 He's very smart.

01:08:49.000 Let me know where you have him, Mark, because I'll put him on the food truck diary.

01:08:51.000 Okay.

01:08:51.000 He's great.

01:08:52.000 I'll text you.

01:08:53.000 I'll split the cost with you or whatever you want.

01:08:54.000 Nah, don't worry about it.

01:08:55.000 But anyway, there's a defining moment in a fighter's career when they realize they need to make changes.

01:09:04.000 They're not doing things the way they should be doing them, and they need to make some changes.

01:09:07.000 But I think one of the reasons why you care and I care, especially with Kevin, if it was somebody else, some other guys, I won't mention names, but with Kevin, I go, well, no, he can be champ.

01:09:16.000 He just has to change a few things, and you're going to see this kid as champion.

01:09:19.000 The other guy's like, ah, just keep doing what you're doing.

01:09:21.000 He 100% can be complete.

01:09:22.000 He has the skills, the mindset, and he has the full package.

01:09:24.000 He looks good, speaks good, dresses well, has the skills, sign me up.

01:09:28.000 He's a good person, too.

01:09:29.000 When you talk to him, he's a good person.

01:09:31.000 You can feel it.

01:09:31.000 Yeah, he's a good person.

01:09:33.000 He's just gotta make some changes and he needs a Mastro. 1.00

01:09:37.000 He needs a fucking conductor. 0.99

01:09:38.000 He needs a Greg Jackson or a Matt Hume or a Faraz Adi. 1.00

01:09:41.000 You can't get there without it these days.

01:09:43.000 Or a Duke Rufus.

01:09:44.000 A Mike Brown at ATT. Yep, yep, yep.

01:09:46.000 Dude, I have Dustin Poirier on Food Truck Diaries.

01:09:48.000 Brown's amazing.

01:09:49.000 I'm sorry, not Mike Brown, Dustin Poirion.

01:09:51.000 But he was talking about Mike Brown, how great he is, and Dustin the diamond Poirion.

01:09:54.000 And he started talking about his wife.

01:09:58.000 Dude, I'm balls deep into chicken and waffles, eating the food truck, you know, stuff.

01:10:03.000 And he starts talking about her, and we're probably 30 minutes in it.

01:10:05.000 I started getting terry-eyed.

01:10:06.000 He starts getting terry-eyed.

01:10:07.000 He was just talking about how, because I was telling him, like, it's a long journey.

01:10:11.000 How have you not, like, I can't believe you didn't stop at some point.

01:10:15.000 Like, you've been doing it since you were 18. How have you not stopped?

01:10:17.000 Right.

01:10:17.000 And he goes, honestly, I haven't said this before, I would have stopped.

01:10:22.000 I've thought about retiring, and my wife told me I can't.

01:10:24.000 She's giving me these pep talks.

01:10:25.000 I'm like, that's nuts, man.

01:10:26.000 How long have you been winning?

01:10:27.000 He goes, oh, she drove me to my first fight. 0.63

01:10:29.000 My first fight before I got out of the car.

01:10:31.000 I get emotional now.

01:10:31.000 He goes, before I got out of the car, she told me you're going to be world champion.

01:10:34.000 Dude, I got chills. 0.99

01:10:35.000 I'm like, dude, you're giving me fucking chills. 0.99

01:10:37.000 I'm like, well, because you are a champ. 0.98

01:10:38.000 People are always interim champ.

01:10:39.000 I don't care.

01:10:40.000 It's still part of champion.

01:10:42.000 Dude, he'd be one of the best fighters on earth.

01:10:44.000 Pound for pound, 145 great.

01:10:46.000 Yeah.

01:10:47.000 Top three great.

01:10:48.000 He's the best 145 pounder ever.

01:10:50.000 And he's without a doubt one of the best pound for pound fighters in the world.

01:10:54.000 And Dustin beat him.

01:10:55.000 Yep.

01:10:56.000 There's no doubt about it.

01:10:57.000 So he's a champ in some form.

01:10:59.000 He has a belt.

01:11:00.000 And I went, you made it.

01:11:01.000 And I told him, I said...

01:11:04.000 I'm terrible at this, so this is me telling you.

01:11:07.000 This is probably me deflecting what I should be doing, but you're going to fight Khabib. 0.99

01:11:12.000 And I said, I don't give a fuck how that fight goes. 0.99

01:11:14.000 You've done it, brother. 0.99

01:11:15.000 When you were 18, you decided to go on this journey, become UFC champion.

01:11:20.000 You had all these dreams, your wife, how many sacrifices.

01:11:22.000 You guys have a little girl now, and you're there, man. 1.00

01:11:25.000 I said, I don't care if Khabib beat your ass for five rounds. 0.99

01:11:28.000 You've done it, dude. 0.99

01:11:30.000 I went, please acknowledge that.

01:11:31.000 Nobody wants to hear that, though.

01:11:32.000 Nobody wants to hear, I don't care if Khabib beats you. 1.00

01:11:34.000 But what I'm telling him is, you've succeeded.

01:11:37.000 Mission accomplished, brother.

01:11:38.000 Mission accomplished.

01:11:39.000 I went, how crazy is that to hear?

01:11:40.000 Mission accomplished.

01:11:42.000 What did he think though?

01:11:43.000 Probably doesn't think like that.

01:11:44.000 Probably thinks he's still on the quest.

01:11:46.000 I don't think you can.

01:11:47.000 Do you think like that?

01:11:48.000 Guys who have that weird engine in them don't think like that.

01:11:52.000 I've never felt more pressure in my life to become a better comic than when I released my special.

01:12:00.000 Of course. 0.99

01:12:01.000 I'm like, oh shit, now the work starts. 0.99

01:12:03.000 That was whatever. 0.99

01:12:04.000 Dude, I've never satisfied with myself more than 15-20 minutes a week.

01:12:10.000 I wish I had 15 minutes where I was.

01:12:12.000 I couldn't tell you I was.

01:12:13.000 15, 20 minutes a week, I'll have a glass of wine, I'll put my feet up, I'll kick back, and then that little voice in the back of my head is like, are you doing everything you can do?

01:12:22.000 Get up.

01:12:23.000 Come on. 0.99

01:12:24.000 Gotta get some shit done. 0.99

01:12:25.000 It's kind of a demon, though, isn't it, Joe? 1.00

01:12:26.000 It's a demon.

01:12:27.000 100%.

01:12:28.000 One of my dreams was to buy the car that I bought, and I bought it, and we're in bed, and my girl goes, how do you feel?

01:12:33.000 I went, exactly the same.

01:12:37.000 I think material things, they don't matter at all. 0.99

01:12:40.000 And the next day, we wake up, and I get up with my son every morning, and we always watch cars on YouTube, and she goes, what the fuck? 0.97

01:12:46.000 I'm watching a different car. 1.00

01:12:47.000 She goes, what the fuck are you doing? 1.00

01:12:48.000 I'm looking at the next car. 1.00

01:12:49.000 She's like, there's no way.

01:12:50.000 I'm like, I need goals.

01:12:52.000 As soon as we bought our house.

01:12:54.000 I swear to God, the next morning.

01:12:56.000 She goes, what are you doing?

01:12:57.000 I go, looking at the next house.

01:13:01.000 I don't know what to do.

01:13:02.000 No, that's normal.

01:13:03.000 My message to Dustin was enjoy this.

01:13:06.000 But don't get...

01:13:08.000 The thing about stuff, though, as opposed to goals, is stuff, you could always just keep buying stuff and making money to buy stuff.

01:13:17.000 And then you find yourself being one of those people that just does stuff for money because you want to buy the stuff.

01:13:21.000 I've never done that, though.

01:13:22.000 But there are people like that out there, right?

01:13:24.000 I've heard Steve Harvey talk about money, like how much money he wants to make per year, and someone was making fun of it.

01:13:29.000 And I was thinking, well, he's in this vibe where he's trying to get stuff and make money, and you gotta make money to get stuff, and you get sort of in this game of accumulating more and bigger and better things.

01:13:42.000 For me, the most important thing is the stuff that I put out if people like it. 0.99

01:13:48.000 If I do a UFC and I suck, if I stumble through something or I make a bad call, that shit will fuck me up for days. 0.99

01:13:58.000 And there's nothing you can do to fix it. 1.00

01:13:59.000 Nothing I can do to fix it.

01:14:00.000 You'd get a Lamborghini, a Ferrari, it's not going to help fill that void.

01:14:03.000 It wouldn't do a damn thing.

01:14:06.000 Same with a podcast.

01:14:07.000 If I do a podcast, it doesn't go well.

01:14:09.000 If I do a set, the set doesn't go well, or I stumble through a joke...

01:14:14.000 All I care about is the stuff that I do in terms of, like, progress.

01:14:19.000 I focus all my progress on that.

01:14:21.000 I'll distract myself with stuff, but, like, look, this watch costs like 50 bucks or something.

01:14:26.000 I don't know.

01:14:27.000 Is that Todd Hoyer?

01:14:28.000 That's a taser.

01:14:30.000 Not 50, but I hear you.

01:14:31.000 It's a military watch.

01:14:32.000 Well, it's like 300 bucks, maybe.

01:14:34.000 But you know what I'm saying?

01:14:34.000 But it doesn't matter.

01:14:35.000 Whether that's 500 or 300 bucks, or this is 22 grand.

01:14:39.000 Not a big deal.

01:14:39.000 22 grand.

01:14:40.000 But it doesn't matter.

01:14:42.000 American money?

01:14:42.000 Yeah.

01:14:43.000 Stone cold cash.

01:14:44.000 Not a big deal.

01:14:44.000 Rolex.

01:14:45.000 Did you just make that from talking?

01:14:47.000 Yes. 1.00

01:14:47.000 Talking shit. 1.00

01:14:48.000 You're just talking shit? 1.00

01:14:49.000 Just talking shit. 1.00

01:14:50.000 My point is, that doesn't make you happy. 0.99

01:14:54.000 It doesn't make you feel any way.

01:14:55.000 This doesn't make me feel any way.

01:14:57.000 None of it.

01:14:58.000 The more I learn, the more I... Accumulate these material things.

01:15:01.000 It doesn't mean shit, man. 0.99

01:15:04.000 The only thing that means shit is your friends and your loved ones and what you're trying to do with your life. 1.00

01:15:07.000 Bob Dylan said it best. 0.99

01:15:08.000 They said, you know, what's success to you? 0.99

01:15:11.000 He goes, not having to work for assholes and waking up and going to bed doing exactly what I want. 0.99

01:15:16.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:15:16.000 Boom, set, match. 0.99

01:15:17.000 You're already doing that, right?

01:15:19.000 I'm already doing that.

01:15:19.000 The only time I ever felt, I guess, somewhat successful, I really don't, but the only time I felt a little successful is when I turned down a big gig on a major network to do TV. I went, no, I'm kind of good, man.

01:15:32.000 I'm good doing what I want to do, and I own all this stuff, and I'm not pressed to do it.

01:15:37.000 Do you imagine what it would be like if you had a boss? 0.97

01:15:38.000 Remember the shit that you guys were dealing with at Fox? 1.00

01:15:40.000 We were telling you to stop cursing on the Fighter and the Kid? 1.00

01:15:43.000 Hilarious.

01:15:43.000 Just imagine how bad that advice is.

01:15:45.000 Think about how many fucking millions of downloads of the Fighter and the Kid have been out there. 0.96

01:15:50.000 How many humans on the planet Earth? 0.98

01:15:52.000 If you could see an overhead map of all the people on the planet Earth, a light went off every time a dude was listening to the Fighter and the Kid, he'd be like, holy fuck, it would freak you out to see that number. 0.93

01:16:01.000 And that Fox guy was like, let's clean it up, boys. 0.81

01:16:05.000 You know what that guy told me, too?

01:16:06.000 I started arguing with him, and he kind of got my face and went, just like you have your black belt in the octagon, I got my black belt in TV. Oh, God.

01:16:18.000 We're good to go.

01:16:38.000 They're compelling.

01:16:40.000 You're going to listen to them.

01:16:40.000 You're not a great producer.

01:16:42.000 That's not why the show's great. 1.00

01:16:43.000 No, it's the talent, you fucks. 0.99

01:16:45.000 Yeah, when you're telling a podcast the one free medium left on the planet Earth where you can distribute to millions of people and no one can tell you what the fuck to do. 0.99

01:16:53.000 There's not another thing like it on Earth.

01:16:56.000 Not one.

01:16:57.000 Not one.

01:16:57.000 Maybe websites, but good luck getting people to read.

01:17:01.000 It's still the greatest form of content you can get.

01:17:02.000 Yeah, and to be able to have that with no producer, no executive, no filter, and to have it available to you while you're doing other stuff, right?

01:17:10.000 You could be mowing your lawn right now.

01:17:12.000 It's in your ear.

01:17:12.000 You're running.

01:17:13.000 It's in your ear.

01:17:14.000 You're driving to work.

01:17:15.000 It's in your ear.

01:17:15.000 You're on the subway.

01:17:16.000 It's in your ear.

01:17:16.000 You get to know people, too.

01:17:18.000 Let's say you were 2019 Jay Leno.

01:17:22.000 That's what you were, right?

01:17:23.000 Doing the shows as we were doing Johnny Carson at the time, right?

01:17:26.000 Let's say you're that guy.

01:17:27.000 Let's say it's that overproduced show.

01:17:28.000 No one really gets to know you.

01:17:30.000 Did you know Johnny Carson from The Tonight Show?

01:17:32.000 Did you know Jay Leno?

01:17:33.000 No.

01:17:34.000 No, it's when they went on to do stuff after the fact. 0.73

01:17:36.000 But now, people know you pretty fucking well.

01:17:38.000 People know me pretty well, man. 0.90

01:17:39.000 Pretty well, yeah.

01:17:40.000 You're either on board or you're not.

01:17:41.000 Yeah, it's different.

01:17:42.000 It's different.

01:17:43.000 But even Conan talked about that, how, you know, when he was doing the Conan, I heard him on Howard Stern, and he was doing, he said, I do the Conan show, and, you know, we had a band, and I was going through this interview, but I had to stop it.

01:17:57.000 Like, I was in balls deep in this interview, man.

01:17:58.000 I had to stop it, because the band's playing, we gotta get to that, or we gotta get to the next bit.

01:18:03.000 And he's like, no, just let me go, man.

01:18:05.000 Let me have this conversation.

01:18:06.000 Yeah.

01:18:06.000 So he's even come over to podcasting.

01:18:08.000 And even Howard Stern goes, well, that's one of the reasons I want to do long form is because they want to overproduce all this stuff.

01:18:14.000 But if I have to get to – I want to talk to somebody.

01:18:17.000 I want to get to know them.

01:18:18.000 I don't want to cut to commercial breaks.

01:18:19.000 I don't have to cut for this band or this bit you want to do.

01:18:22.000 Let me talk to this guy, man.

01:18:23.000 Well, there's a lot of guys that are still cutting their podcast stuff with commercials.

01:18:26.000 They'll stop in the middle and do a commercial.

01:18:28.000 Do you guys do that?

01:18:30.000 We've done it before.

01:18:31.000 I don't know if we currently do.

01:18:32.000 We just left our current advertisers.

01:18:34.000 It was a nightmare.

01:18:35.000 We just signed with Paragon.

01:18:37.000 Shout out to Paragon.

01:18:39.000 I don't know.

01:18:40.000 Sometimes we might.

01:18:41.000 Sometimes we might, Joe, to be honest with you.

01:18:43.000 But, you know...

01:18:45.000 What we are doing...

01:18:46.000 But if you're going to do it, you're only going to do it once, right?

01:18:48.000 Once, yeah.

01:18:49.000 But what's different with King of the Sting is...

01:18:51.000 So when we do our read...

01:18:52.000 You guys do it before, and there's no video, but we do it...

01:18:56.000 Me and Theo do it together, on camera, and have fun with it.

01:19:00.000 So it's part of the show.

01:19:01.000 Yeah.

01:19:01.000 Different animal.

01:19:02.000 That's different.

01:19:02.000 You got me and Theo doing a read for you.

01:19:03.000 Yeah.

01:19:04.000 We're doing a read for this financial thing.

01:19:06.000 And he goes, and you can save, I think, $75 a year.

01:19:11.000 And when I said $75 a year, I didn't pre-read.

01:19:15.000 $75, I cut a crack.

01:19:16.000 And then Theo goes, yeah, a smooth $75 a year.

01:19:22.000 Do the financial people get mad at you?

01:19:24.000 I don't know. 0.99

01:19:24.000 I don't give a fuck. 0.99

01:19:25.000 We were laughing so hard. 0.99

01:19:27.000 I go, yeah, go with him, get $75 a year.

01:19:29.000 Is that really what they're offering?

01:19:30.000 I forget.

01:19:31.000 It might have been $7,500 or $7,500.

01:19:34.000 Well, $7,500 is reasonable.

01:19:35.000 $7,500 is different.

01:19:36.000 I forget what it was.

01:19:37.000 $750?

01:19:38.000 It was something super low, and I could not stop laughing.

01:19:41.000 Then Theo started laughing.

01:19:42.000 They left it in.

01:19:43.000 I feel like that read would do better than the others.

01:19:45.000 Maybe, but it would do better in terms of financial, in terms of clicks, but it probably wouldn't do better in terms of people going there and using the product.

01:19:56.000 People would think it would be funny.

01:19:58.000 Great thing.

01:19:58.000 Doesn't matter.

01:19:59.000 Doesn't matter.

01:20:00.000 We'll find someone else.

01:20:01.000 Yeah, that's the thing.

01:20:03.000 You have too many podcast sponsors these days.

01:20:06.000 I'd say no to them every day.

01:20:07.000 I get tons of them coming in.

01:20:09.000 Yeah, I bet.

01:20:09.000 But it's not...

01:20:10.000 It's got to make some sense.

01:20:13.000 It has to connect with what you're about a little bit.

01:20:15.000 It's got to be a good thing, too.

01:20:17.000 It's got to be a valuable product.

01:20:18.000 Yeah, you gave me the best advice ever when I started doing advertising on podcasts, because it was a while before we started doing it.

01:20:25.000 You better believe in it, man. 0.99

01:20:26.000 You sell shit, people don't stop tuning in. 1.00

01:20:28.000 They're not going to believe you. 1.00

01:20:29.000 I've had a bunch of things that I turned down because I researched it, and I was like, what is this?

01:20:33.000 How does that work?

01:20:34.000 Yeah, Brian's great at that.

01:20:35.000 I was like, ooh, this is sketchy.

01:20:37.000 There was one of them.

01:20:37.000 They wanted to do an Uber for babysitting.

01:20:39.000 I'm like, get the fuck out of here. 0.99

01:20:42.000 That's a terrible idea. 1.00

01:20:42.000 Are you crazy? 1.00

01:20:43.000 The biggest argument Cal and I ever got in our fucking 90-year relationship is Burger King came towards us, and I grew up eating Burger King, man. 1.00

01:20:51.000 I grew up eating Whopper with cheese. 0.99

01:20:53.000 Not every day, but I'd fucking have one. 1.00

01:20:55.000 I'm a goddamn American. 1.00

01:20:56.000 And Brian said no? 1.00

01:20:57.000 Yeah.

01:20:57.000 He was like, we can't push that off, and we had a straight-up argument.

01:21:00.000 How did it end?

01:21:01.000 I think we did a Burger King raid.

01:21:03.000 Yeah.

01:21:05.000 Shout out to Burger King.

01:21:06.000 If you're hungry and they're open, there's food.

01:21:10.000 A Whopper with cheese, best burger on planet Earth. 1.00

01:21:12.000 Fuck you in and out. 1.00

01:21:13.000 That's not true. 1.00

01:21:14.000 Whopper with cheese only?

01:21:15.000 That's so not true.

01:21:16.000 Whopper with cheese and ketchup only?

01:21:17.000 That so often makes me want to take you to a doctor right now and get a CAT scan.

01:21:20.000 What do you like?

01:21:21.000 I do have CT. What do you like? 0.99

01:21:22.000 Double fucking double from In-N-Out, son. 0.99

01:21:25.000 Are you an In-N-Out guy, too? 0.99

01:21:27.000 Or a Five Guys Burgers.

01:21:28.000 Fatburger, Five Guys over In-N-Out.

01:21:29.000 Five Guys is delicious. 0.87

01:21:31.000 Hold on, but we can agree on one thing here before I call you guys Nazis.

01:21:35.000 Not In-N-Out.

01:21:37.000 What?

01:21:38.000 In-N-Out is so much better.

01:21:39.000 For number one?

01:21:40.000 I like Five Guys and I like In-N-Out.

01:21:42.000 You like Five Guys number one, though.

01:21:44.000 Yeah, I think I like Five Guys better because Five Guys offers bacon and also jalapenos.

01:21:49.000 Boom! 0.99

01:21:50.000 The speed of In-N-Out is such a deterrent too sometimes.

01:21:53.000 The wines?

01:21:55.000 How dare you?

01:21:56.000 The one right up here? 1.00

01:21:57.000 The fuck out of my face, bro. 0.99

01:21:58.000 Five Guys doesn't have a drive-thru though, right? 1.00

01:21:59.000 Five Guys doesn't do the drive-thru. 1.00

01:22:01.000 They're like, bitch, sit down. 1.00

01:22:02.000 Come on in. 1.00

01:22:03.000 And they have milkshakes at In-N-Out.

01:22:05.000 That's a big plus. 0.99

01:22:07.000 If you're ready to fuck your body up with some poisoned food that tastes great, then milkshakes will do it to you. 1.00

01:22:13.000 They'll give it to you. 1.00

01:22:14.000 Dude, I've been so stressed out with this special.

01:22:15.000 My diet, even my workouts, my diet's been awful.

01:22:19.000 You've been eating like a girl was pregnant? 0.98

01:22:20.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:22:20.000 Pickles and ice cream and shit? 1.00

01:22:21.000 Yeah, because my girl might be pregnant again. 1.00

01:22:23.000 Yeah, man.

01:22:26.000 Been eating pizza every night.

01:22:27.000 Uh-oh.

01:22:28.000 I don't know what it is, dude.

01:22:29.000 I'm in a funk.

01:22:30.000 I'm in a funk, dude.

01:22:31.000 Well, stress.

01:22:32.000 They've actually said that, that people under stress make poor decisions.

01:22:36.000 Poor decisions eating.

01:22:37.000 Everything else has been great.

01:22:38.000 Food-wise, too.

01:22:39.000 Really?

01:22:40.000 Yeah, people make poor decisions food-wise.

01:22:42.000 I did buy a fry and I'd eat pizza every night.

01:22:44.000 You might be onto something.

01:22:45.000 Yeah, I think you're freaking out.

01:22:47.000 I'm not freaking out, though.

01:22:49.000 A little bit.

01:22:49.000 You think?

01:22:50.000 It's okay.

01:22:50.000 Nah, we'll figure it out.

01:22:51.000 It's normal.

01:22:52.000 No, no, you're not freaking out, but you're under stress.

01:22:54.000 You know what it is, Joe?

01:22:56.000 Getting judged by hundreds of thousands of people is very weird.

01:22:59.000 It's weird.

01:23:00.000 Yeah, it's weird.

01:23:01.000 Every time I do it, I stay offline for weeks.

01:23:03.000 Yeah, that's what you told me to stay offline.

01:23:04.000 I don't even read it.

01:23:05.000 Look, I do my best.

01:23:07.000 I try hard.

01:23:08.000 I do my best.

01:23:09.000 And you might like it, you might not like it.

01:23:11.000 But I do my best.

01:23:11.000 And when I'm done, as long as I know I did my best, I can just release it.

01:23:15.000 I've been able to do that for Triggered, and I did that for Strange Times.

01:23:18.000 When it was over, I was like, I'm good.

01:23:19.000 I'm good.

01:23:20.000 I mean, you might not like it, but I couldn't have done it better.

01:23:23.000 You know what my thing is?

01:23:25.000 I think with anything is you get more popular, whether it's through podcasting or stand-up or whatever you do.

01:23:32.000 If you're an artist, you put out an album.

01:23:34.000 If you're a painter, put out a painting.

01:23:35.000 If you're a fighter, you take a fight.

01:23:36.000 It's a big fight.

01:23:38.000 I'm going to attract more eyeballs.

01:23:39.000 You're going to get a lot more people that love it.

01:23:41.000 You're going to get more hate because you're out there more.

01:23:45.000 Also, you're being shoved down people's faces.

01:23:47.000 Yeah, because you do a lot of press, too.

01:23:49.000 Yeah, man.

01:23:50.000 That's why I don't do press.

01:23:51.000 It's one of the reasons why I don't do press.

01:23:52.000 You gotta love it, you don't have to.

01:23:53.000 I don't do press on the road.

01:23:54.000 But I don't want anybody to have to listen to me.

01:23:57.000 I don't.

01:23:58.000 I don't.

01:23:59.000 You're at such a different level than I am.

01:24:01.000 I have to do press a little bit.

01:24:03.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:24:04.000 I get it.

01:24:04.000 But I don't do it for stand-up anymore.

01:24:06.000 When I go to towns, I don't do press anymore.

01:24:08.000 Good.

01:24:08.000 Beautiful.

01:24:08.000 But then you're getting 100% your fans.

01:24:11.000 Yes.

01:24:11.000 And also, with the special, it's different because I didn't want our group, like you guys who vouched for me, or especially Showtime, who was like, let's get a special.

01:24:22.000 I didn't want to embarrass.

01:24:23.000 I want it to go well for them.

01:24:25.000 Like, you know?

01:24:26.000 Yeah, no, I know what you're saying.

01:24:27.000 Like, I want them to be like, alright, we're proud of this.

01:24:28.000 Which they are, so I should be good with that, you know?

01:24:31.000 And I know you guys are proud of me, so I should be good with that.

01:24:33.000 Listen, I'm always proud of you. 0.99

01:24:33.000 So I don't know why I give a fuck. 0.99

01:24:35.000 You're trying to get better with something that's very difficult to do. 0.99

01:24:39.000 Some say the most difficult to do. 0.92

01:24:40.000 And you put out a special two years in, which is ridiculous.

01:24:43.000 Three. 0.53

01:24:43.000 I would have told you not to do it. 0.53

01:24:44.000 Of course.

01:24:44.000 If you wanted to come to me, but I knew you were going to do it.

01:24:47.000 You guys know me.

01:24:48.000 I mean, we went down there, we helped you out, we opened for you, we...

01:24:52.000 It was a great time.

01:24:53.000 It was a great time.

01:24:54.000 And you're going to look back on it in eight years from now when you have another Killer Special out, or several down the line.

01:25:02.000 When do you think you'll do another one?

01:25:03.000 Do you think you'll wait another two years?

01:25:05.000 Three.

01:25:06.000 Three to four.

01:25:07.000 I was talking to...

01:25:08.000 But I think it's going to be...

01:25:09.000 I don't mean to interrupt you. 0.97

01:25:09.000 I think it's going to be cool to look back and go, holy fuck, he was three years in, that's what he did, and then four years from now, see the progression. 0.97

01:25:16.000 Sure. 0.99

01:25:16.000 Then four years from now, see the progression. 0.99

01:25:18.000 Yes.

01:25:18.000 And you can go back and look.

01:25:19.000 I think that's going to be fucking cool, man. 0.84

01:25:21.000 Yeah. 0.95

01:25:21.000 Oh, 100%. 0.95

01:25:22.000 Yeah.

01:25:23.000 Listen, man, there's some videos of me.

01:25:33.000 For sure.

01:25:37.000 Yeah.

01:25:41.000 It's fine, man.

01:25:43.000 What are you going to say, though, about specials?

01:25:44.000 Most, like, especially season one, say every, I think, three years?

01:25:48.000 What'd Kevin say, four?

01:25:49.000 Well, I was going to say Jesselnik.

01:25:50.000 Jesselnik has a really interesting thought process on it.

01:25:53.000 He was telling me that he does, he did the podcast recently.

01:25:57.000 I love him, by the way.

01:25:58.000 I do, too.

01:25:58.000 He's great.

01:25:59.000 He's a killer, man. 0.99

01:26:01.000 Outstanding. 1.00

01:26:01.000 He's a new special. 1.00

01:26:02.000 Yeah, and it's on Netflix.

01:26:04.000 It's available right now.

01:26:05.000 It just came out.

01:26:05.000 It's amazing.

01:26:06.000 What is it called?

01:26:06.000 Thoughts and Prayers?

01:26:07.000 Is that it?

01:26:07.000 I think so.

01:26:08.000 Thoughts and Prayers.

01:26:10.000 Anyway, that might be his other one.

01:26:12.000 He's got several.

01:26:13.000 But his new one just dropped on Netflix like a few weeks ago.

01:26:16.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:26:17.000 I don't think it's Thoughts and Prayers.

01:26:18.000 I think Thoughts and Prayers is...

01:26:19.000 Fire in the maternity ward. 0.96

01:26:22.000 Close.

01:26:23.000 Fire in the maternity ward? 0.93

01:26:24.000 So what he does is he works on the material for a year, like in L.A. He just does little sets here and there.

01:26:32.000 Comedy store or whatever.

01:26:33.000 Puts together his hour.

01:26:33.000 Then he takes his hour on the road and does clubs for a year.

01:26:37.000 Just clubs for one year.

01:26:39.000 Then he does theaters for a year.

01:26:41.000 Three.

01:26:42.000 And at the end of that year he films.

01:26:43.000 So every three years?

01:26:44.000 Three years, yeah. 1.00

01:26:45.000 Which is not a bad idea if you don't get tired of your shit. 0.99

01:26:49.000 The problem is you do a lot of sets. 1.00

01:26:50.000 Like I do four sets a night sometimes. 1.00

01:26:52.000 You get really tired of your shit. 1.00

01:26:53.000 I get tired. 1.00

01:26:54.000 I get tired of new bits.

01:26:56.000 Yeah, especially during that many times.

01:26:58.000 Yes, it's hard to stay motivated if it's the same bit, yeah?

01:27:02.000 Yeah, but it's also, look, I feel so lucky that I can do it.

01:27:07.000 I feel so lucky. 0.95

01:27:08.000 Like, every time I go to do a set, like, I went to the store last night and hanging out in the back with Fitzsimmons and Ian Edwards and Owen Smith, who I'm trying to convince Owen Smith to never write again, because I think he's the fucking...

01:27:18.000 Owen Smith, can you bring him up, Jimmy? 0.62

01:27:20.000 Dude, you gotta come see him. 0.92

01:27:21.000 That guy's a monster.

01:27:23.000 He's so good.

01:27:26.000 Owen Smith is so good, and he's got this gig.

01:27:29.000 He's always writing.

01:27:31.000 But there's a writer's strike right now.

01:27:33.000 He's a writer for like a major series? 0.99

01:27:36.000 Yeah, like sitcoms and shit. 0.99

01:27:37.000 But dude, his stand-up's out of control. 0.98

01:27:39.000 So he came with us too.

01:27:41.000 Oh, he's super nice.

01:27:42.000 Dude, he's the best.

01:27:43.000 He's really nice.

01:27:43.000 So is a little Josh Martin.

01:27:45.000 Josh is fucking hilarious too. 0.97

01:27:46.000 I love Josh. 0.99

01:27:47.000 Santino's fucking amazing. 0.99

01:27:48.000 It was a killer show. 0.99

01:27:49.000 We did two shows of the improv.

01:27:50.000 We're doing more of those too. 1.00

01:27:51.000 Ian's a fucking killer. 1.00

01:27:53.000 He's a killer too. 1.00

01:27:54.000 But he's a writer too. 1.00

01:27:54.000 Yep, same deal. 1.00

01:27:55.000 Same deal.

01:27:56.000 And I try to talk to him about it too.

01:27:58.000 Ian's been on the road with me for years and years.

01:28:00.000 He opened for me when I did Triggered.

01:28:03.000 I've taken him on the road for years.

01:28:04.000 He's also the nicest guy in the world.

01:28:06.000 He's so nice to me.

01:28:08.000 The nicest guy.

01:28:08.000 So is Santino.

01:28:09.000 Santino's a nice guy.

01:28:10.000 He's a man's man.

01:28:11.000 I love that guy.

01:28:12.000 I love that guy.

01:28:13.000 Me too.

01:28:13.000 I have a close bond with him.

01:28:14.000 Shout out to Cheeto.

01:28:16.000 You know who I podcast Tiger Bell I did with Bobby Lee?

01:28:19.000 Yeah.

01:28:19.000 I told him, I said, you owe it.

01:28:21.000 You owe it to come and do a fucking special, man. 0.99

01:28:24.000 At least 30 minutes. 0.99

01:28:25.000 And he goes, I think that's why Rogan won't have me on.

01:28:29.000 He's disappointing me. 0.99

01:28:30.000 I went, I just think you need to get your shit together and do a special, man. 0.99

01:28:33.000 First of all, that's not true that I won't have him on. 0.99

01:28:35.000 Every time I say, do you want to come on my podcast?

01:28:37.000 He runs away.

01:28:38.000 He's sleeping.

01:28:39.000 He gets panicky.

01:28:40.000 Well, he doesn't wake up until 1. But he gets panicky.

01:28:42.000 I don't know why.

01:28:43.000 He's a great dude.

01:28:44.000 He's got stuff in his head that shouldn't be in there.

01:28:47.000 He's also smart, dude.

01:28:48.000 He has a lot to say.

01:28:49.000 Oh, yeah.

01:28:49.000 I love Bobby Lee.

01:28:50.000 He'd be great on here.

01:28:51.000 Dude, I've been friends with Bobby Lee since 96. He's been on comedy for a hot second.

01:28:54.000 Known that dude forever.

01:28:56.000 He probably just started doing comedy then.

01:28:58.000 He almost got me killed at a strip club in San Diego.

01:29:01.000 That's where he started. 0.98

01:29:01.000 Mexican gangbangers with tattoos on their face and long black hair. 0.98

01:29:05.000 Bobby Lee's trying to tell their girlfriend to give him a lap dance. 1.00

01:29:08.000 And I had to grab him and drag him the fuck out of here. 0.97

01:29:10.000 I'm like, listen to me, Bobby. 0.97

01:29:11.000 Listen to me.

01:29:12.000 Those guys are serious. 0.95

01:29:13.000 We gotta get the fuck out of here now. 1.00

01:29:15.000 And he's like, fuck, those guys ain't gonna do shit. 1.00

01:29:17.000 I'm like, I will fucking leave you here. 1.00

01:29:19.000 I'm like, I'm going. 0.99

01:29:20.000 I jumped in my super turbo and we fucking hauled ass out of there. 0.97

01:29:24.000 And Bobby leaves in the backseat. 1.00

01:29:25.000 I was like, Bobby, shut the fuck up. 1.00

01:29:27.000 They were gonna kill you. 1.00

01:29:28.000 You have no idea. 0.99

01:29:29.000 Oh my god.

01:29:29.000 There's certain dudes, you looked them in the eye and you go, oh, this guy's for real.

01:29:33.000 They got the eyes of a great white shark.

01:29:35.000 Yeah, and like, look, I'm not the most street-smart dude.

01:29:38.000 I'm not saying that, but...

01:29:39.000 I can read a room, though.

01:29:40.000 I can read Predators.

01:29:41.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:29:42.000 I've been around a lot of fucking stone-cold killers in my life, and I saw that guy, and I was like, oh, okay, sir, I'm gonna just take my little friend and stuff him in the backseat of my fucking Japanese car and peel out of here. 0.98

01:29:53.000 Is it Toyota Supra? 0.98

01:29:54.000 Yeah, dude, it was scary. 0.98

01:29:56.000 Bobby was so ridiculous. 1.00

01:29:57.000 He's like, you're not going to do shit. 1.00

01:29:58.000 I'm like, Jesus Christ! 1.00

01:29:59.000 I was like, get in the fucking car, man! 1.00

01:30:02.000 Come on! 1.00

01:30:02.000 He's so funny. 1.00

01:30:03.000 We've got to get out of here.

01:30:04.000 That was my introduction to Bobby Lee.

01:30:06.000 Because he was working at the La Jolla Comedy Store. 0.99

01:30:08.000 I was going to say, he was a dork guy. 0.98

01:30:09.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.99

01:30:09.000 That's how he started. 0.99

01:30:10.000 I don't even remember how we wound up at that fucking strip club. 0.99

01:30:13.000 Because, like, all I remember was, like, the world zoomed in. 0.99

01:30:17.000 Like, I was looking at it through a toilet paper roll.

01:30:21.000 And I'm looking at this Mexican gangbanger who stood up with his hands out there like this. 0.95

01:30:26.000 And Bobby Lee is acting like it's not a big deal.

01:30:29.000 And I'm like, oh, my God, we're gonna die. 1.00

01:30:32.000 Holy fuck. 1.00

01:30:32.000 It was like that, just moments where you're like, you almost get hit by a car. 1.00

01:30:36.000 Woo! 0.99

01:30:37.000 Like, that's what it felt like.

01:30:38.000 I was like, oh my god, Bobby. 0.75

01:30:40.000 Like, that guy's a real criminal.

01:30:42.000 Like, we gotta get out of here! 0.91

01:30:43.000 And his girl was one of the dancers, and Bobby was apparently trying to get his girl to give him a lap dance.

01:30:51.000 We ran out of there, man. 1.00

01:30:52.000 We fucking hauled ass. 0.99

01:30:54.000 I drove very fast and I got off the first exit and I turned around and went back the other way just in case someone was following me. 1.00

01:31:00.000 I was making sure no one was following me.

01:31:02.000 Jesus Christ.

01:31:02.000 I was like, this is real, Bobby.

01:31:04.000 Bobby's hilarious.

01:31:05.000 We're talking about La Jolla Comedy Club.

01:31:06.000 I was telling him how special this to me is.

01:31:08.000 It's quite close.

01:31:09.000 And I was talking about staying in the condo.

01:31:11.000 And I go, oh, it was great because they've redone it and Jim Carrey stayed there and he's my hero.

01:31:16.000 So for me especially, he goes, man, I wish I had the same kind of admiration for that comedy store La Jolla condo.

01:31:24.000 He goes, because when I was there, I forget the comic's name, it's some gay comic.

01:31:28.000 He goes, they used to take like 14 dudes back there and run trains and come all over the walls.

01:31:34.000 He goes, that's why the walls were blue for a long time.

01:31:37.000 I went...

01:31:38.000 I don't know if that's true.

01:31:39.000 Jesus Christ, Bobby.

01:31:41.000 I don't know if that's true.

01:31:42.000 It's a lot of adding to that.

01:31:45.000 Maybe there's just one guy busting a nut on the wall.

01:31:48.000 A few guys came in. 0.81

01:31:49.000 You know gay dudes in San Diego running trains?

01:31:51.000 It's not that far-fetched.

01:31:53.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:31:54.000 Do you know who the Hodge twins are?

01:31:56.000 Yes.

01:31:56.000 You know who those guys are?

01:31:58.000 Bodybuild.com, yeah. 1.00

01:31:59.000 They have a fucking... 1.00

01:32:01.000 They were reading an article about men getting pregnant. 1.00

01:32:05.000 Like that women aren't the only ones who can get pregnant. 1.00

01:32:07.000 Oh, hell no.

01:32:08.000 Because the way they talk, you know the way they talk? 0.99

01:32:11.000 They're big old jack dudes. 1.00

01:32:14.000 I've had them on the podcast.

01:32:15.000 They're great.

01:32:15.000 Have you?

01:32:16.000 And they get seriously amped up. 1.00

01:32:17.000 They were talking about busting a nut inside a dude's ass that you cannot get him pregnant no matter how deep you go in that man's anus. 1.00

01:32:25.000 And they're the same? 1.00

01:32:26.000 They're like, yeah, they talk fucking like dudes, dudes. 1.00

01:32:30.000 Because people are saying some crazy shit. 1.00

01:32:32.000 That's not real. 1.00

01:32:32.000 That's a crazy shit to say. 1.00

01:32:34.000 Someone really argued that? 0.99

01:32:34.000 Oh, yes, [... 0.99

01:32:36.000 Yes.

01:32:37.000 Yes.

01:32:38.000 This is a real argument.

01:32:39.000 You know, Yale started putting tampons, dispensers, in the men's room because they said not everyone who menstruates is a woman.

01:32:52.000 Hi.

01:32:53.000 My son ain't going to Yale.

01:32:54.000 Hi, welcome to the Upside Down world.

01:32:55.000 Wow.

01:32:55.000 Did you ever watch Stranger Things?

01:32:58.000 I feel like I'm too drunk for this.

01:32:59.000 What?

01:33:00.000 You ever watch Stranger Things? 1.00

01:33:00.000 Yeah, fuck yeah, I love that. 1.00

01:33:01.000 Season 3 coming. 0.99

01:33:03.000 The world is upside down right now.

01:33:05.000 That's what's happening.

01:33:06.000 That's so disappointing.

01:33:06.000 We flipped over to the other side.

01:33:08.000 People are getting, they're so progressive, they're literally denying science for feelings.

01:33:13.000 Do you feel like a woman?

01:33:14.000 Then you're a woman. 1.00

01:33:16.000 What the fuck? 1.00

01:33:17.000 I get her to identify as a woman. 1.00

01:33:19.000 Do you feel like a man?

01:33:20.000 Well, then you're a man.

01:33:21.000 And you're pregnant? 1.00

01:33:22.000 Amazing, man.

01:33:23.000 Bro, congratulations. 0.99

01:33:24.000 You're going to make the best mom, dad, whatever the fuck you are ever. 1.00

01:33:28.000 Dad, mom. 1.00

01:33:29.000 These dudes are coming in dudes' asses. 1.00

01:33:32.000 It's a funny little thing that they did. 0.99

01:33:34.000 Did you find it?

01:33:36.000 I was looking for it and I stumbled across something else they just talked about, which you were just talking about.

01:33:40.000 They're all over YouTube.

01:33:42.000 What is this?

01:33:43.000 Meet the formerly transgender man who now identifies as a genderless alien. 0.90

01:33:46.000 Oh yeah, I've seen that.

01:33:47.000 Dude, we showed that guy before. 0.99

01:33:49.000 His surgery and shit. 1.00

01:33:50.000 He thinks he's an alien? 1.00

01:33:52.000 He's had a bunch of surgery to look like an alien. 1.00

01:33:53.000 I don't give a fuck. 1.00

01:33:54.000 Just don't force it on me that I have to, if I fuck him, call you a him. 1.00

01:33:57.000 Yeah, I say congratulations to them. 0.99

01:33:59.000 Yeah, there you go.

01:34:00.000 Congratulations, you've made it.

01:34:02.000 Yeah, congrats, man.

01:34:03.000 Look, a lot of people want to be special, but they don't want to work for it. 1.00

01:34:06.000 And the problem with that is you get that kind of shit. 0.99

01:34:08.000 You get people that are pretending to be something super special. 0.99

01:34:11.000 So they get attention.

01:34:12.000 So they get attention.

01:34:12.000 And you're not doing anything.

01:34:14.000 And there's nothing there.

01:34:17.000 You know, what I really love, I had Eddie Izzard on, who's probably one of the most famous transgender people ever.

01:34:25.000 I didn't know he was transgender.

01:34:26.000 I saw your picture.

01:34:27.000 Just decided that's what he likes.

01:34:30.000 And once you get past that and just talk to him, he's amazing.

01:34:34.000 Human's a human, man.

01:34:35.000 He's amazing.

01:34:36.000 I don't care.

01:34:37.000 What I care is when you say crazy things.

01:34:41.000 Like, men can get pregnant.

01:34:42.000 That's insane.

01:34:43.000 That's not real.

01:34:44.000 Have you had Kristen Beck on?

01:34:46.000 The Navy SEAL? Not yet.

01:34:47.000 No.

01:34:47.000 And was running for governor?

01:34:48.000 I don't know what she's doing now, but Cal and I went to lunch with her afterwards. 1.00

01:34:54.000 Normal shit, man. 1.00

01:34:55.000 Normal. 1.00

01:34:55.000 Also talks like... 1.00

01:34:56.000 Like, oh, when you were in battle, this, and just talks like a fucking human. 1.00

01:35:01.000 Like a human. 1.00

01:35:01.000 I didn't give a fuck. 1.00

01:35:02.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:35:02.000 All right, you want to wear a dress? 0.99

01:35:03.000 Yeah, everyone's looking at you because you've got the physique of me and you've got a fucking miniskirt on. 0.99

01:35:07.000 All right, whatever. 0.99

01:35:08.000 Who cares? 1.00

01:35:09.000 Who gives a fuck? 0.99

01:35:10.000 Once you get used to it, like, you're used to the way people dress, period. 0.99

01:35:13.000 Yes.

01:35:14.000 You're used to everything, you know?

01:35:16.000 It's just nonsense. 0.86

01:35:17.000 It's nonsense. 0.89

01:35:18.000 Like, I don't care.

01:35:19.000 As long as you're not hurting me.

01:35:21.000 Yeah, I agree.

01:35:21.000 Or hurting someone else.

01:35:22.000 I don't care.

01:35:23.000 Or pushing it on me.

01:35:24.000 Yeah, I don't care.

01:35:25.000 Yeah, don't push it on me.

01:35:26.000 Did Eddie Izzard say what?

01:35:27.000 Like, he always felt like that?

01:35:28.000 This is it.

01:35:29.000 Man can have babies now. 1.00

01:35:31.000 Look at him.

01:35:32.000 They're hilarious, by the way.

01:35:34.000 Look at how angry she is. 1.00

01:35:34.000 Shout out to the Hodgson. 1.00

01:35:36.000 Look at the guy at the back.

01:35:37.000 Play this, Jamie.

01:35:38.000 Can we play it or we get pulled?

01:35:39.000 We'll probably get pulled.

01:35:40.000 It's on Twitter.

01:35:40.000 We'll get pulled.

01:35:41.000 No, no, no, it's their show.

01:35:43.000 Can we hear the volume?

01:35:43.000 Can we hear the audio, though?

01:35:44.000 No, no, no.

01:35:45.000 We'll just tell people what is the...

01:35:46.000 It just says men can have babies now, and it's on Twitter.

01:35:49.000 I couldn't find it on their YouTube, but it's on Twitter.

01:35:50.000 Can we hear it?

01:35:51.000 No, no, no.

01:35:52.000 Really?

01:35:53.000 Yeah, bro, copyright law is no joke on YouTube.

01:35:55.000 You're not live, though, right?

01:35:56.000 It doesn't matter.

01:35:56.000 We'd have to edit it out later.

01:35:58.000 Oh, fuck. 1.00

01:35:59.000 Haters. 1.00

01:36:01.000 Look, YouTube's in a weird place right now in terms of copyright.

01:36:04.000 We've gotten claims on us for watching something on a screen in the background.

01:36:09.000 Like you see a picture in a picture and you don't even hear it.

01:36:13.000 And they want all the ad revenue for the entire show.

01:36:15.000 Dude, how about the... 0.97

01:36:16.000 Oh, gee, that's ridiculous. 0.97

01:36:17.000 It's hilarious. 1.00

01:36:18.000 How about when the combine guy, we're talking about his dick, that got flagged. 1.00

01:36:22.000 When I was like, oh, you see his dick popped out? 1.00

01:36:24.000 Tagged for nudity. 1.00

01:36:26.000 Yeah.

01:36:26.000 Come on, man.

01:36:28.000 It's ridiculous. 1.00

01:36:29.000 And you'd have to pause it and just go frame by frame and go, is that the dick? 0.99

01:36:35.000 It's kind of pixelated and it's on there for half a second. 0.71

01:36:38.000 You don't even know what you're looking at if I don't tell you.

01:36:42.000 Well...

01:36:43.000 What YouTube is doing is making a boatload of cash.

01:36:45.000 They know what they're doing.

01:36:47.000 Oh my God.

01:36:47.000 They just don't want anything to get in the way.

01:36:49.000 They run the world.

01:36:50.000 Well, between Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, and Instagram, Facebook owns Instagram.

01:36:55.000 No, they all own the world.

01:36:56.000 Look, Facebook is changing elections.

01:36:58.000 Facebook is influencing the way the world votes.

01:37:01.000 Do you hear what they're going to start doing with, I think it's Instagram.

01:37:04.000 They're going to start, you can as the user, your owner of your own page, but the rest of the world can't see your followers and likes.

01:37:12.000 Huh.

01:37:13.000 That's interesting.

01:37:14.000 Because kids in high school, and I can, with a three-year-old son, it's a scary world with social media.

01:37:19.000 I'm sure with your daughters you can understand is people, suicide, especially in teenage girls, has never been higher because they're putting so much, so much ways on their social media.

01:37:29.000 So how many followers, how many likes they get.

01:37:31.000 So if you get rid of that, it might help.

01:37:32.000 Well, you know, they're reaching the same kind of people that we're talking about.

01:37:37.000 We're talking about haters, but they're reaching it like local, like they're friends.

01:37:41.000 And people from school, they're shitting on each other, being mean to each other, and they don't understand what that does to a person yet. 0.99

01:37:46.000 They don't have compassion the way a grown adult has, where they understand, they have perspective, they understand what kind of emotional influence it's going to have on a person when you shit on them like that. 1.00

01:37:56.000 I've seen it happen, man. 0.99

01:37:57.000 It's not pretty.

01:37:58.000 But also, like, when you and I were bullied, Especially you back in the day when you were bullied.

01:38:03.000 You could go home.

01:38:04.000 You'd think about it, but you didn't have to constantly get it.

01:38:06.000 Right, right, right.

01:38:07.000 Now, if your daughter's bullied at school, well, she goes home at 3 o'clock.

01:38:11.000 And now it's on social media.

01:38:12.000 And then they gang up.

01:38:14.000 And then this person from another school gangs up.

01:38:16.000 And this person from Ohio gangs up. 0.99

01:38:18.000 And then they're all fucking... 0.99

01:38:19.000 Making fun of her. 0.99

01:38:20.000 I've seen them play little games with each other, too.

01:38:22.000 It's weird.

01:38:23.000 It's weird watching kids play little emotional head games with each other.

01:38:26.000 I was like, Jesus Christ.

01:38:27.000 People are button pushers, right?

01:38:30.000 They see a button, they push it.

01:38:31.000 They want to see what it does.

01:38:32.000 They find out it does something, they want to push it again, make it do that thing again.

01:38:35.000 When you find out you can make someone upset, you press their buttons.

01:38:38.000 There's girlfriends that do that, boyfriends that do that, friends, lovers, family members.

01:38:43.000 People press buttons.

01:38:45.000 I've had family members that would do that. 1.00

01:38:47.000 They would just press buttons just to fuck with you, and I... But even on social media, it's like people can press buttons if you let them know that that button gets to you, right? 1.00

01:38:56.000 I never punch down.

01:38:58.000 So if it's a guy with an egg for an avatar, someone I don't know, I never, ever, very rarely I'll punch down or comment back.

01:39:05.000 Never.

01:39:06.000 That's what they want, right?

01:39:07.000 What's interesting to me is it affects people like Kevin Durant.

01:39:12.000 No.

01:39:20.000 No.

01:39:35.000 What are you doing?

01:39:37.000 But here's the message. 0.99

01:39:38.000 When I see all that, I'm like, God, what the fuck is he doing? 1.00

01:39:41.000 I'm like, holy fuck. 1.00

01:39:42.000 If Kevin Durant, who's worth $600 million, the best basketball player on planet Earth, if it affects him, what do you think a 13-year-old girl with body issues is feeling like? 1.00

01:39:53.000 That's what's scary.

01:39:54.000 Or boy.

01:39:55.000 Boy or girl? 0.82

01:39:56.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:39:57.000 The suicide with teenage girls is a lot higher.

01:40:00.000 Have you ever read Jonathan Haidt's books on that?

01:40:02.000 Jonathan Haidt, he's been on my podcast.

01:40:05.000 Callan knows him.

01:40:06.000 Maybe Callan talked to him too, I believe.

01:40:09.000 But he wrote a book called The Coddling of the American Mind.

01:40:12.000 And part of the book was about the influence of social media and what's happening to kids.

01:40:17.000 A couple years ago?

01:40:18.000 Yeah.

01:40:18.000 Maybe a year ago?

01:40:19.000 Okay, so pretty recent.

01:40:21.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:40:21.000 Because you just have to be up to date to get this shit. 0.99

01:40:23.000 He's brilliant. 1.00

01:40:23.000 Okay. 1.00

01:40:24.000 He's brilliant.

01:40:24.000 I really enjoy talking to him.

01:40:26.000 It's one of those things where you go, yeah, this is nothing that we're designed for.

01:40:32.000 It's not normal. 1.00

01:40:33.000 You know, when girls talk shit about you across the, you know, like you see them across the breezeway, like you're walking to your classroom, they're over there, and they're talking shit about you, like, fuck those bitches. 1.00

01:40:43.000 But if they're saying it online... 1.00

01:40:45.000 And you read it on a Facebook page. 0.95

01:40:47.000 Her ankles are fat. 1.00

01:40:48.000 Fucking loser. 1.00

01:40:49.000 Get that nose job, LOL. And kids will do shit like that to each other. 1.00

01:40:53.000 Get that nose job, LOL. Yeah. 1.00

01:40:55.000 Kids will do shit like that to each other. 1.00

01:40:57.000 But if you read it, now all of a sudden it impacts you. 1.00

01:41:00.000 It hits you in a way that it doesn't hit you if you see them talking shit. 1.00

01:41:04.000 If I see some dudes talking shit about me and they're over there, I'm like, yeah, are you really talking shit? 1.00

01:41:09.000 What are you doing? 0.99

01:41:09.000 You feel good? 0.99

01:41:10.000 Feel good insulting people? 1.00

01:41:12.000 You fucking losers? 1.00

01:41:13.000 Concentrate on your own life. 1.00

01:41:14.000 Get your shit together. 1.00

01:41:14.000 What about online? 1.00

01:41:17.000 You've never read a comment?

01:41:18.000 No, I've read comments before, but I don't read them anymore because of that.

01:41:21.000 Did it affect you?

01:41:22.000 It affected me when I first started being on the internet. 0.99

01:41:25.000 But over the course of my being on the internet, I've learned how to not emotionally engage with shit. 0.98

01:41:33.000 Well, you just learn what that is. 0.99

01:41:34.000 I know what people are. 0.73

01:41:36.000 Like, if I've done something that was poor and it wasn't good and someone said, that sucked, it burns.

01:41:42.000 But you know why it burns?

01:41:43.000 Because they're right.

01:41:44.000 Because it's true, yeah.

01:41:45.000 Because they're right.

01:41:45.000 Yeah.

01:41:46.000 When that happens, that's an opportunity to get better.

01:41:49.000 That's what that is.

01:41:50.000 That's an opportunity to look at yourself, to reassess, start from scratch.

01:41:55.000 Just look at it with fresh, renewed vigor and understanding that the negative consequences of failing or doing poorly or, you know, just not putting enough attention into something you're concentrating on.

01:42:06.000 That's very rare for you, though.

01:42:07.000 What do you mean?

01:42:07.000 Like, lately, you're not...

01:42:08.000 I'm sure...

01:42:09.000 What's the last thing you did that you got negative...

01:42:12.000 But it doesn't matter.

01:42:13.000 That's how I looked at it.

01:42:14.000 But that's one of the reasons why, because I'm always tweaking it like that. 0.96

01:42:19.000 And I'll have sets that are off, and a lot of the times it's sets that are off because I'm experimenting with shit.

01:42:24.000 I'm moving stuff around.

01:42:26.000 That doesn't matter, though.

01:42:27.000 But it does.

01:42:27.000 Why?

01:42:28.000 I don't like it.

01:42:28.000 You don't like when people go...

01:42:30.000 No, no, no.

01:42:31.000 When I don't do well.

01:42:32.000 I'm not listening to what other people are saying.

01:42:35.000 I'm my own worst critic.

01:42:37.000 You have to be.

01:42:38.000 Yeah, so...

01:42:39.000 The bottom line is if they're wrong, like if someone says something and they're wrong, it's like, I don't care.

01:42:44.000 It doesn't bother me if you say mean things and you're wrong.

01:42:47.000 I don't care.

01:42:47.000 But if you're right, I care.

01:42:50.000 And the reason why I care is because I haven't done a good job.

01:42:53.000 So I care more about what I've failed at than the person's opinions.

01:42:58.000 You can't be all invested in people's opinions of people you don't know because everyone's words look the same when they're typed out.

01:43:05.000 If there was an intelligence quotient, an emotional intelligence, a social intelligence, if you could find out how disturbed somebody was by their text just looking at it, you'd get a better understanding of whether or not you should listen to this person's opinion.

01:43:19.000 But when you just look at text, it could be...

01:43:21.000 It's very black and white. 0.98

01:43:22.000 Yeah, I mean, it could be Cornel West wrote that, or it could be fucking Richard Spencer wrote it. 0.97

01:43:28.000 It's just words. 0.92

01:43:29.000 You don't convey who the person is from those words.

01:43:32.000 It's very difficult.

01:43:34.000 So, someone can say something insulting or shitty to you designed to try to get you.

01:43:40.000 They're just trying to hope to get you.

01:43:41.000 Why do you think it's such...

01:43:44.000 You get it?

01:43:44.000 I don't get it.

01:43:45.000 I do get it, because they're helpless.

01:43:46.000 They're helpless.

01:43:48.000 So that's why there's so much negativity on social media?

01:43:51.000 Yes.

01:43:51.000 That's part of the reason why.

01:43:51.000 There should be a positive atmosphere for some...

01:43:54.000 Yeah, but you're positive. 1.00

01:43:54.000 You have a fucking Ferrari. 1.00

01:43:56.000 You live in a mansion. 1.00

01:43:56.000 It's easy. 1.00

01:43:57.000 You're a handsome guy.

01:43:57.000 You're 10 feet tall.

01:43:58.000 It's all good things. 1.00

01:43:59.000 Got a giant dick right here. 1.00

01:44:00.000 Got big dick energy. 1.00

01:44:01.000 It's all right. 0.99

01:44:02.000 All these things are fun.

01:44:02.000 But also worked for it.

01:44:03.000 You didn't work for that dick. 1.00

01:44:05.000 I was born with this thing. 1.00

01:44:06.000 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

01:44:07.000 You work for some things.

01:44:09.000 I'm sure it is.

01:44:10.000 Poor boy.

01:44:12.000 You've had many good breaks.

01:44:14.000 Some people have had none.

01:44:15.000 Some people have had none. 1.00

01:44:16.000 And they also have a phone, and they have a Twitter account, and they're like, fuck you. 1.00

01:44:20.000 Fuck you and your Ferrari. 1.00

01:44:21.000 Fuck you and your mansion. 1.00

01:44:23.000 Fuck you and everything you stand for. 1.00

01:44:25.000 Because they can't see a real path. 1.00

01:44:29.000 Like, if you're standing there... 1.00

01:44:30.000 But that's why they're a loser. 0.95

01:44:32.000 Because you're getting online and you're spewing out hate because you're not happy with your life. 0.99

01:44:36.000 Or they're 17. Like, they don't get it yet.

01:44:38.000 Let's say they're not 17. But there's a lot of that.

01:44:41.000 Or they're 17. They used to be a loser at 17. Now they're 27 and nothing's gotten much better. 0.98

01:44:45.000 There's a lot of that. 0.98

01:44:46.000 And do you think going on Instagram and shitting on someone who's successful is going to get you to where you want to go? 0.98

01:44:52.000 No, unless you're really funny. 0.98

01:44:55.000 There are people that just...

01:44:56.000 We still have a section where we read off the people roasting us.

01:45:01.000 We read it back and forth to each other.

01:45:02.000 Some people are good.

01:45:03.000 Some people are hilarious. 0.90

01:45:04.000 Most are awful.

01:45:05.000 There's people that have formulated a comedy career from dunking on folks online.

01:45:11.000 Right?

01:45:11.000 Yeah, but that would be the minority, right?

01:45:13.000 Like Jenny Johnson. 0.97

01:45:13.000 Jenny Johnson high five? 0.97

01:45:15.000 That'd be the minority, though, yeah?

01:45:16.000 Yeah, but if you're a good writer...

01:45:18.000 Here's the thing.

01:45:20.000 The world is not...

01:45:21.000 It's like good ideas and good writing and being funny is not exclusive to professionals.

01:45:26.000 There's a lot of people out there who are really funny who never figure out a way to do it.

01:45:31.000 Capitalize on it.

01:45:32.000 Yeah. 0.85

01:45:32.000 Look, dude, when I was a fucking open-miker, when I was first starting out, I worked for a guy named Dave Dolan. 0.85

01:45:37.000 He's dead now. 0.96

01:45:38.000 He's a private investigator. 0.99

01:45:39.000 To this day, one of the funniest fucking dudes I've ever met in my life. 0.98

01:45:43.000 We used to call him Dynamite Dickless Dave Dolan. 0.99

01:45:46.000 He was an animal. 0.85

01:45:47.000 Hold on.

01:45:49.000 Dynamite Dickless Dave.

01:45:50.000 Triple D. He died a few years back, but he's one of the rare people that I save his voicemails. 0.71

01:45:55.000 You know how you save people's voicemails?

01:45:58.000 I used to.

01:45:58.000 Like, after they're dead.

01:45:59.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:46:00.000 Like, he's one of those guys I'm never fucking deleting. 0.83

01:46:03.000 How'd he pass away? 0.97

01:46:04.000 Listen to this.

01:46:07.000 I can't wait for this.

01:46:12.000 Dickless Dave here.

01:46:14.000 How Boston is that?

01:46:16.000 It's hard to hear it because I can't put it on speaker.

01:46:19.000 Dickless Dave here.

01:46:20.000 Why does it not go on speaker?

01:46:23.000 What did he pass away from?

01:46:24.000 He got cancer.

01:46:27.000 Chairman Joe, Dickless Dave here.

01:46:30.000 Joe, you're a comedy star.

01:46:34.000 He's so busted.

01:46:36.000 He left me this long, sweet email or voicemail.

01:46:39.000 But I never delete that.

01:46:41.000 I love that guy forever.

01:46:42.000 But when we were friends, when he was alive, I always said, why don't you do comedy? 0.99

01:46:49.000 Why the fuck are you not a comedian? 0.97

01:46:50.000 He was one of the funniest human beings, like Joey Diaz-level funny. 0.99

01:46:54.000 Why did he do it?

01:46:55.000 I don't know, man. 0.99

01:46:56.000 He just didn't have the balls? 0.99

01:46:57.000 Like being a private investigator. 1.00

01:46:58.000 Like busting people.

01:46:59.000 He got a kick out of it.

01:47:00.000 It was a game for him.

01:47:01.000 That works for him then.

01:47:02.000 And his cousin, rather, was Billy Downs.

01:47:04.000 And Billy Downs owned the Comedy Connection.

01:47:07.000 Oh, wow.

01:47:07.000 Yeah, it was crazy.

01:47:08.000 So he had an in.

01:47:09.000 Yeah.

01:47:09.000 It was easier than for most people.

01:47:11.000 When I started working for him, I had no idea that he was Billy Downs' cousin.

01:47:14.000 I responded to an ad in a newspaper where a private investigator needed an assistant.

01:47:19.000 Oh.

01:47:20.000 And I was like, what a great job.

01:47:22.000 As you're trying to be a comedian, be a private investigator's assistant, it's going to be awesome.

01:47:25.000 But what he really needed was a driver.

01:47:27.000 He lost his license from driving while intoxicated.

01:47:31.000 Yeah.

01:47:31.000 This guy's awesome.

01:47:32.000 He was the best!

01:47:33.000 But he quit. 0.97

01:47:34.000 He quit booze fucking cold turkey right then and there. 1.00

01:47:37.000 Didn't go to meetings, didn't do any of that shit. 1.00

01:47:39.000 Just quit. 1.00

01:47:40.000 Gangster.

01:47:40.000 Oh man, he was a beautiful person.

01:47:42.000 But he was one of the funniest people I've ever met in my life. 0.98

01:47:45.000 That guy, if he had Twitter, and he just wanted to dunk on people, he would have been fucking you up, man. 0.99

01:47:50.000 He would have read his shit and fallen on the ground laughing. 1.00

01:47:52.000 He was just funny. 1.00

01:47:54.000 Funny people are just funny.

01:47:56.000 Funny is not exclusive to professionals.

01:47:58.000 Yeah, I agree.

01:47:58.000 Well, you are or you aren't.

01:47:59.000 You can cultivate it.

01:48:00.000 I know some comedians that weren't that good, and they got way, way, way, way better.

01:48:04.000 But I'm sure they were...

01:48:05.000 But being a comedian and also being funny in person is a little bit different.

01:48:09.000 It's different, yeah.

01:48:10.000 Some people are just funny.

01:48:11.000 Like Richard Jenny, who's, in my mind, one of the best comedians of all time.

01:48:15.000 He was always real somber in person.

01:48:18.000 Pretty serious.

01:48:19.000 He was depressed, which is why he killed himself.

01:48:22.000 Just wasn't happy.

01:48:24.000 Just wasn't uncomfortable in his own skin.

01:48:27.000 And there's comedians like that now, even at the stores.

01:48:29.000 Oh, yeah.

01:48:29.000 Where you meet them, you're like, oh, wow, you're very serious.

01:48:32.000 How about Brody?

01:48:33.000 You know?

01:48:34.000 Brody.

01:48:34.000 He wasn't that serious.

01:48:35.000 At least around me, the few times when I was around him, he was fun.

01:48:39.000 He would get dark.

01:48:41.000 He would get dark.

01:48:41.000 I didn't know him that well enough.

01:48:43.000 I'm not going to pretend I did.

01:48:44.000 He would get sad.

01:48:44.000 He was always very cool.

01:48:46.000 Yeah, I mean, I think guys like you and I, one thing, especially coming from athletics, coming from martial arts, you're more likely to suck it up, and you're more likely to not give in to the negative demons,

01:49:03.000 and you're also more likely to exercise regularly.

01:49:06.000 So when you see someone who's struggling with something they shouldn't be struggling with, you're like, but you're good.

01:49:10.000 It's frustrating.

01:49:11.000 Hey, you're good, though.

01:49:12.000 No, it's frustrating for me.

01:49:13.000 Why are you bummed out? 1.00

01:49:13.000 You're fucking, you're really good. 1.00

01:49:14.000 Like, if you are doing really good as a comic, you know, you'll call me up and you'll say, bro, I fucking killed tonight. 1.00

01:49:20.000 It was amazing. 0.93

01:49:20.000 I had such a great time. 0.93

01:49:21.000 I'm like, that's great.

01:49:22.000 That's awesome.

01:49:23.000 Yeah, but it's not bragging.

01:49:24.000 No, no, no, no.

01:49:25.000 It's happiness.

01:49:26.000 Yeah.

01:49:26.000 It's happiness.

01:49:26.000 I tell you because I know you relate to it.

01:49:28.000 So Brody, who was a murderer, you could never say he was great. 1.00

01:49:33.000 You could never say, like, Brody, you fucking kill me. 0.99

01:49:36.000 He would skirt around like, Rogan, always supportive. 0.99

01:49:39.000 Rogan, always got my back.

01:49:42.000 He would always deflect it.

01:49:44.000 I don't think he wanted to...

01:49:47.000 I don't think he wanted to accept the fact that people loved him.

01:49:50.000 Like when, you know, when he would have a great set, it would almost like, it wouldn't elevate him.

01:49:56.000 Like some guys get off stage, like Hinchcliffe.

01:49:59.000 Hinchcliffe will murder, he'll get off stage, he'll be like, whoo!

01:50:01.000 Yeah, you'll know. 0.84

01:50:02.000 He'll come in the green room, his eyes will be giant, he'll high-five everybody.

01:50:05.000 I love that.

01:50:06.000 He's feeling it, you know?

01:50:07.000 But, Brody didn't get like that.

01:50:10.000 I'm not saying Theo's the same in any regards to what Brody was suffering with, but Theo has his demons, whatever.

01:50:15.000 It's out there.

01:50:16.000 I'm not outing.

01:50:17.000 Theo's the same way where he'll do a set, and I'm like, dude, that's one of the best things I've ever seen, man. 0.99

01:50:22.000 I'm like, get the fuck. 1.00

01:50:23.000 Stop. 1.00

01:50:24.000 Get the fuck. 1.00

01:50:24.000 I'm like, no, no, no. 1.00

01:50:25.000 I'm telling you, it's so good, dude.

01:50:27.000 It's a version of it.

01:50:28.000 I mean, Theo's got his own version.

01:50:30.000 It's not as extreme as Brody's.

01:50:31.000 Everyone has their monsters.

01:50:32.000 Yeah, but a guy like you or me, you're goal-oriented.

01:50:37.000 You're trying to get better at things.

01:50:38.000 You see things.

01:50:39.000 That's how you got good at jiu-jitsu.

01:50:40.000 That's how you got good at fighting.

01:50:41.000 That's how you got good at comedy.

01:50:43.000 Everything you want to get good at, you get good at by focusing on it and setting goals and trying to get better and better.

01:50:48.000 And when you do get better, you celebrate.

01:50:50.000 You enjoy it.

01:50:50.000 It's fun.

01:50:51.000 It's exciting.

01:50:52.000 Some people don't get that feeling, man.

01:50:54.000 They don't ever get those highs.

01:50:56.000 Those highs just don't exist.

01:50:58.000 And for me...

01:51:00.000 You know, what gets me more than anything now is new stuff.

01:51:05.000 What gets me more than anything is creations.

01:51:07.000 Like those little things you come up with.

01:51:09.000 Those nuggets. 1.00

01:51:10.000 Like if you do Jeremiah Watkins' show, and I'll walk away, I go, oh fuck. 1.00

01:51:14.000 I'll come in the back and go, dude, I wrote down what I killed. 1.00

01:51:18.000 I'm like, oh my god.

01:51:19.000 You're recording, right?

01:51:20.000 You record?

01:51:20.000 And I go, I can run with that.

01:51:22.000 He goes, there's something there.

01:51:23.000 Then I'll walk away on like the highest high, man.

01:51:26.000 It's amazing, those shows.

01:51:27.000 You know what's interesting, hanging around you as much as I have, is you're serious, but you and I are more similar than me or Delia or me and Callan.

01:51:37.000 Callan and Delia are so silly all the time.

01:51:40.000 Delia might be funnier offstage. 1.00

01:51:42.000 He's amazing onstage, but he's so funny offstage.

01:51:45.000 Brian's so funny offstage, where they're constantly on.

01:51:47.000 They get around, they mess around all the time, and you don't have to be that way.

01:51:52.000 I thought for the longest I had to...

01:51:54.000 Act that way.

01:51:55.000 Because I hung out with Brian and Counton and Delia so much.

01:52:00.000 I just want to chill and do my set and then talk about cars or whatever and get the fuck out of it.

01:52:06.000 Be myself.

01:52:07.000 I'm not them. 1.00

01:52:08.000 I don't want to have to be on and fuck around. 1.00

01:52:10.000 I don't like to fuck around all the time. 0.99

01:52:13.000 Well, Delia and Counton, they avoid real conversations. 0.99

01:52:16.000 They don't talk.

01:52:17.000 They just fake insult each other.

01:52:19.000 Yeah, they just insult each other.

01:52:21.000 Where I'm like, alright, well, what else, man?

01:52:24.000 How's life?

01:52:25.000 Callan got boxing mitts made that have Galea's face on it.

01:52:30.000 That's fake.

01:52:30.000 Someone put those on there.

01:52:31.000 Someone put it on the Photoshop?

01:52:32.000 Yeah, someone put those on there.

01:52:33.000 That's amazing.

01:52:33.000 He did a great job.

01:52:34.000 It's hilarious, though.

01:52:35.000 I thought he actually had mitts made up.

01:52:37.000 I was like, that's hilarious. 1.00

01:52:38.000 Yeah, someone fucked with him. 1.00

01:52:39.000 But those guys, that's who they are. 1.00

01:52:42.000 Callan, if it's a room of three or thirty, he's going to entertain him. 0.99

01:52:46.000 He's the clown. 0.99

01:52:49.000 That's why I took him hunting. 0.99

01:52:50.000 That's not me, man.

01:52:51.000 That's not what I want to do.

01:52:53.000 I want to talk to you, ask about your family, and then go on stage and be funny.

01:52:57.000 Yeah, look at him there.

01:52:58.000 Look at Bryant Count throwing punches.

01:53:01.000 Like a guy who's never been punched.

01:53:04.000 He's going to be so pissed he said that.

01:53:08.000 Oh, maybe those are real.

01:53:10.000 That looks pretty real.

01:53:11.000 You're right. 0.96

01:53:11.000 That looks pretty goddamn real. 0.96

01:53:13.000 You're right, brother. 0.95

01:53:15.000 There's no way it can be fake.

01:53:17.000 Whenever I see Cal Hinton myths, I fast forward.

01:53:19.000 I go to the next page.

01:53:20.000 I know. 1.00

01:53:21.000 He's so silly. 1.00

01:53:22.000 How's he getting into boxing at 80 years old? 1.00

01:53:24.000 Look at this.

01:53:25.000 And he keeps telling me his shoulders are fine.

01:53:27.000 I'm like, well, why are you punching so slow then?

01:53:29.000 If your shoulders are fine, what is wrong?

01:53:32.000 Are you in a room with thick air?

01:53:34.000 He's obsessed with it.

01:53:36.000 Are you fighting at high altitude all the time, Cal?

01:53:39.000 The altitude, if there's no altitude, at least your hands would move quicker.

01:53:43.000 That's real, do you know that?

01:53:45.000 That's with ballistics, with archery. 0.88

01:53:47.000 You shoot high, at high altitude.

01:53:50.000 Oh, really?

01:53:50.000 Yes, because there's less drag.

01:53:52.000 That makes sense.

01:53:52.000 There's less air.

01:53:55.000 Why is his hands moving so slow?

01:53:57.000 He's going to be so sad.

01:53:58.000 It's weird.

01:53:59.000 He's been boxing with private lessons for a while.

01:54:03.000 He goes, Wayne thinks I could probably fight pro.

01:54:07.000 I went, Callan, stop.

01:54:09.000 I went, Callan, you're paying that man money.

01:54:11.000 Don't talk to me.

01:54:11.000 I love Wayne.

01:54:12.000 Here's the problem.

01:54:13.000 I said, you're 50-something years old, and you're paying that man money.

01:54:17.000 So if you went, Callen, you look terrible, you're going to go, well, you're the one coaching me.

01:54:21.000 So of course, and I went, let me ask you something.

01:54:23.000 You play tennis, right?

01:54:24.000 He goes, yeah.

01:54:24.000 I went, you hit with a pro, right?

01:54:26.000 He goes, yeah.

01:54:26.000 I went, you pay him, right?

01:54:27.000 I go, has he ever told you he thinks you can maybe compete?

01:54:30.000 He goes, yeah.

01:54:31.000 I went, that's what they do.

01:54:33.000 Yeah.

01:54:33.000 Because they got to show progress and hype you up.

01:54:36.000 Otherwise, if he's like, dude, you're awful.

01:54:37.000 Never fight again. 0.90

01:54:38.000 You're not going to keep paying him.

01:54:41.000 Dude.

01:54:42.000 Isn't it great, though?

01:54:42.000 That's Calen.

01:54:43.000 That's Calen in a nutshell, though.

01:54:45.000 Isn't it great? 1.00

01:54:46.000 People that do that, that coach you, that blow smoke up your ass. 1.00

01:54:49.000 You've got to be super careful of those. 1.00

01:54:50.000 Super careful.

01:54:52.000 One of any students had this guy who was a jiu-jitsu guy, and he was fighting in the UFC, and his Muay Thai coach was like, he's Bangkok ready.

01:55:01.000 And I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

01:55:04.000 As a striker, I was like, No, he's not.

01:55:07.000 Like, what are you talking about?

01:55:08.000 Like, they blow smoke.

01:55:10.000 They get a fat one of these Tommy Chong joints.

01:55:13.000 That's a firecracker. 0.99

01:55:14.000 Look at this joint.

01:55:15.000 That's a firecracker from Tommy Chong. 1.00

01:55:17.000 And they stuff this in your asshole. 1.00

01:55:19.000 Now... 1.00

01:55:21.000 They blow that smoke deep in your ass. 1.00

01:55:23.000 Because you're like this on the other end. 1.00

01:55:24.000 And you start believing it, man. 1.00

01:55:26.000 You start believing, I'm going to go to Bangkok and fuck those dudes up. 0.99

01:55:29.000 I always told Eddie he should make a shirt that says Bangkok ready. 0.99

01:55:31.000 I think he did.

01:55:32.000 Did he make it?

01:55:33.000 Somebody made a shirt that said, you remember that story?

01:55:35.000 You remember that.

01:55:36.000 Fascinating story.

01:55:36.000 Bro, I was there.

01:55:37.000 I was in the locker room and he said he's Bangkok ready.

01:55:39.000 There's not a better term ever.

01:55:41.000 Well, it's not a better term ever, especially when you know the guy's not an elite striker.

01:55:45.000 That's the best part about it.

01:55:46.000 Are you Bangkok ready?

01:55:49.000 Yeah, I'd watch him kick the bag and I'd be like, oh no.

01:55:53.000 You better take this guy down. 0.97

01:55:56.000 Take this guy down and get your strangle on, son. 0.99

01:55:58.000 Get your strangle. 0.98

01:55:59.000 So we should have told Sage wasn't Bangkok ready.

01:56:02.000 Sage was not one championship ready.

01:56:04.000 Sage, you know, he's an alpha male now, right?

01:56:07.000 Is he still there?

01:56:08.000 I believe so.

01:56:09.000 Who left Alpha Male recently?

01:56:10.000 Did Lance Palmer leave?

01:56:12.000 I think Lance Palmer went to Mark Henry.

01:56:14.000 Who's the chick? 1.00

01:56:15.000 The badass.

01:56:17.000 Cynthia...

01:56:17.000 Calvillo?

01:56:18.000 Yeah, she left. 0.67

01:56:19.000 Where'd she go?

01:56:19.000 I don't know.

01:56:22.000 Almost positive she left.

01:56:23.000 She's a badass. 1.00

01:56:24.000 You know, I mean...

01:56:26.000 I don't know what they're doing over there, so I can't really comment.

01:56:28.000 I don't either. 0.98

01:56:29.000 But I do know that when Bang Ludwig was there, they were making some giant-ass fucking progress. 0.95

01:56:33.000 Everybody started moving better. 0.97

01:56:34.000 Everybody started putting together combinations better.

01:56:37.000 Look, you need a head coach.

01:56:40.000 Fighters need a head coach.

01:56:41.000 And even then, you might not win, right?

01:56:43.000 No, it's tough enough.

01:56:45.000 You need a head coach.

01:56:46.000 You need a beast.

01:56:47.000 Look, if I was competing, really, if I was a young man and I was thinking about fighting in MMA, I'd probably move to Montreal.

01:56:56.000 I go to Montreal or...

01:56:58.000 I was talking to Dustin about this.

01:57:01.000 ATT, there's so many guys, especially guys in the UFC. They get there and they're the big swinging dicks at their small gym. 0.98

01:57:07.000 They come to ATT and they're expecting the same attention. 0.98

01:57:11.000 Two problems with South Florida. 1.00

01:57:14.000 Pussy and pussy. 1.00

01:57:15.000 And cocaine. 1.00

01:57:17.000 I've never tried it.

01:57:18.000 Me neither.

01:57:19.000 I've never done it.

01:57:19.000 I said that.

01:57:23.000 Brazilian.

01:57:24.000 Spanish.

01:57:25.000 Cuban.

01:57:27.000 I'd say that's a reason to go down there. 1.00

01:57:29.000 Bro, your dick is going to be hard every time the wind blows. 0.99

01:57:31.000 You're going to be excited, and you're not going to be focusing, and you're going to get cracked. 1.00

01:57:35.000 Yeah, so maybe New Mexico, huh? 0.95

01:57:37.000 Montreal has hot-ass girls. 1.00

01:57:39.000 The other thing about, this is, I really believe, about some camps can have too many killers, and you can get fucked up as you're trying to learn and grow, and you never have enough guys that you can practice on. 0.99

01:57:50.000 I think A.K.A., because they're so tough, they've injured each other. 0.98

01:57:53.000 Oh, they're animals. 1.00

01:57:54.000 They guys just get fucked up. 1.00

01:57:55.000 If I wanted to learn how to wrestle, and I wanted to be a better wrestler. 0.99

01:58:00.000 If I'm Francis Ngannou, I moved A.K.A. I agree.

01:58:02.000 Because DC has one fighting and Steve Bay left.

01:58:05.000 Yeah.

01:58:06.000 He's on his way out.

01:58:06.000 Kane's there.

01:58:07.000 You already beat him.

01:58:08.000 Go there, dude.

01:58:09.000 That's what I say.

01:58:10.000 That's what I say. 0.99

01:58:11.000 Yeah, he's playing grab-ass in France. 1.00

01:58:13.000 Well, because he's fucking striking. 1.00

01:58:15.000 The power he has. 0.99

01:58:17.000 It's like such a fucking checkmate weapon that no matter what anybody does, you're always ready for checkmate. 0.99

01:58:21.000 Boom! 1.00

01:58:22.000 It's like Wilder. 0.99

01:58:23.000 That kind of ridiculous power. 0.98

01:58:25.000 You're always ready for checkmate. 0.98

01:58:26.000 You're always ready.

01:58:27.000 Wilder's is even more impressive than Francis.

01:58:30.000 I don't know about that.

01:58:31.000 Let me tell you something.

01:58:32.000 That is amazing.

01:58:33.000 Francis has to cut to 265. Mark my motherfucking words. 0.99

01:58:37.000 If Francis Ngannou decides to jump ship and go heavyweight boxing... 0.99

01:58:41.000 Careful!

01:58:41.000 Where are you going with this?

01:58:42.000 He will nuke some fools. 1.00

01:58:45.000 Nuke some fools. 1.00

01:58:46.000 Not Wilder! 1.00

01:58:46.000 Oh, well, it's going to take a long time to get to Wilder's level. 1.00

01:58:49.000 Wilder's a world champion.

01:58:50.000 He's undefeated.

01:58:52.000 Look, Francis Ngannou's not ready to box with Wilder right now, but let me tell you something.

01:58:57.000 He might, or he might connect.

01:58:59.000 No, come on. 0.85

01:59:00.000 Listen, Wilder's not the slickest guy in the world.

01:59:03.000 We're not talking about Muhammad Ali or Floyd Mayweather.

01:59:04.000 You're talking about Olympic-level boxing.

01:59:06.000 You are.

01:59:07.000 Well, sort of.

01:59:08.000 Sort of.

01:59:08.000 A year and a half in, he was in the Olympics, but he mostly gets by on power and range.

01:59:12.000 But Olympics, Olympics.

01:59:13.000 Yeah.

01:59:14.000 I agree.

01:59:14.000 But he's a year and a half into boxing.

01:59:17.000 I mean, I think Francis probably could have...

01:59:19.000 He did.

01:59:20.000 No doubt about it.

01:59:21.000 He's amazing.

01:59:22.000 But if Francis has a problem with grappling, you think about it.

01:59:26.000 What does he not have a problem with?

01:59:27.000 Striking.

01:59:28.000 He KOs Alistair Overeem.

01:59:30.000 In the UFC. True.

01:59:31.000 True.

01:59:31.000 But Alistair Overeem is a world-class striker.

01:59:33.000 I mean, he's a kickboxer at the highest level, wins the K-1 Grand Prix.

01:59:38.000 I mean, he's knocked out Badr Hari. 0.98

01:59:40.000 He's beaten fucking Turkish Tyson. 0.99

01:59:44.000 For sure. 0.99

01:59:44.000 He's beaten some good guys. 0.99

01:59:46.000 Francis Faulkner is a little older.

01:59:48.000 And here's the other thing.

01:59:50.000 If Alistair Overeem entered the boxing ring with Deontay Wilder, he wouldn't last a minute?

01:59:56.000 I agree with you.

01:59:57.000 However, maybe.

01:59:58.000 Well, if he could kick his legs, Deontay wouldn't.

02:00:00.000 No, boxing.

02:00:01.000 I'm sorry, straight boxing.

02:00:01.000 That's what we're talking about.

02:00:02.000 But it was a Muay Thai fight.

02:00:03.000 I mean, it was an MMA fight, so he's allowed to do everything.

02:00:05.000 I know, I'm just saying, if it was straight boxing, you're talking about apples and oranges.

02:00:09.000 Right, but think about that.

02:00:10.000 If Deontay Wilder fought Alistair Overeem in an MMA fight right now, how do you think that would go?

02:00:15.000 He'd finish him in under a minute. 0.99

02:00:17.000 He'd leg kick the shit out of him. 1.00

02:00:18.000 He wouldn't even need it. 1.00

02:00:19.000 He'd take him down and choke him in three seconds. 0.77

02:00:21.000 But he couldn't do that to Francis Ngannou. 0.94

02:00:23.000 Couldn't leg kick him.

02:00:24.000 Couldn't keep him off him.

02:00:25.000 Because Francis Ngannou.

02:00:27.000 But if Alistair and Francis went to the box arena, they'd get absolutely annihilated.

02:00:32.000 I agree with you.

02:00:33.000 But the thing that's holding...

02:00:35.000 Well, unless they focused on it for as long as those guys did.

02:00:38.000 But the thing that holds back Deontay Wilder from people, like all the boxing pundits praising him, is that they think he has awkward technique.

02:00:48.000 He's wild.

02:00:48.000 But his results are spectacular.

02:00:51.000 Okay?

02:00:53.000 Francis Ngannou, everybody he connects on other than Stipe, goes night-night.

02:00:58.000 Stipe's the only guy.

02:00:59.000 Stipe...

02:01:01.000 Stipe survived.

02:01:02.000 Stipe figured out how to use his championship medal and his grit and use his takedowns and won the fight.

02:01:09.000 Derek Lewis ate some shots.

02:01:10.000 It was just a terrible fight.

02:01:12.000 That fight, I don't even think that counts.

02:01:14.000 That doesn't count.

02:01:15.000 That fight is such a mess from top to bottom. 0.99

02:01:17.000 That was the worst fight maybe in the history of the fucking sport. 0.99

02:01:20.000 I agree. 0.99

02:01:21.000 They didn't throw anything.

02:01:22.000 The problem with that fight is because they're such knockout artists, you're expecting such fireworks.

02:01:28.000 Dude, it was a big disappointment. 0.99

02:01:29.000 I said to everybody, there is not a fucking way this fight can suck. 0.99

02:01:33.000 That's what I said. 0.99

02:01:34.000 You can never say that because it always sucks. 0.74

02:01:35.000 I know. 0.99

02:01:36.000 Whenever you say there's not a way this fight can suck, it's going to suck. 0.95

02:01:39.000 It was so disappointing, man. 0.98

02:01:41.000 It was so disappointing.

02:01:42.000 It was, but then when he comes back and he knocks out Curtis Blades for the second time, which I thought Blades had a way better shot at him the second time.

02:01:51.000 Me too.

02:01:51.000 I actually thought he would probably beat him.

02:01:53.000 Especially after the Francis Ngannou fight.

02:01:55.000 But it showed that Ngannou has really got it back together again.

02:02:01.000 And now he's fighting JDS. They moved it, though.

02:02:04.000 It was supposed to be in Vegas.

02:02:05.000 They moved it.

02:02:08.000 It's a dangerous fight for JDS. It's a dangerous fight for both guys, really.

02:02:11.000 But yeah, definitely JDS. I just think Ngannou has...

02:02:14.000 If you're going to stand in front of him, man... 0.81

02:02:17.000 He's gonna hit you with something. 0.78

02:02:19.000 Yeah. 0.88

02:02:19.000 That's the thing. 0.88

02:02:20.000 He's one of those, I'm gonna hit you with something, guys. 1.00

02:02:22.000 When he beat Kane, I was like, holy fuck, dude. 1.00

02:02:24.000 Yeah, man. 1.00

02:02:25.000 Kane thought his leg blew out.

02:02:26.000 That's so bad.

02:02:27.000 He really did think that's what happened.

02:02:29.000 When you look at the replay, he clearly got hit with an uppercut.

02:02:31.000 Like a car went on.

02:02:34.000 That's all it needs.

02:02:35.000 That guy, all he needs is to touch you.

02:02:37.000 And the more he does it, the more confident he gets in it, the better. 0.99

02:02:41.000 He's only been fucking training for six years. 0.99

02:02:45.000 People need to get that in their head. 0.99

02:02:46.000 I want to see him versus John so bad.

02:02:48.000 Him versus John Jones?

02:02:49.000 Yeah.

02:02:50.000 What do you think would happen?

02:02:51.000 I think John would take him down.

02:02:51.000 I think John smokes him.

02:02:53.000 John would take him down.

02:02:54.000 Yeah.

02:02:54.000 John didn't get hit.

02:02:55.000 Listen, John easily could be 240 pounds.

02:02:58.000 Easily.

02:02:59.000 I think what he's doing is he's going to clean out light heavyweight.

02:03:02.000 There's really no one there for him.

02:03:03.000 He's going to clean that out and then go to heavyweight.

02:03:05.000 Maybe. 0.94

02:03:06.000 Or maybe he just stays at light heavyweight and just goes down as the goat and just keeps beating the fuck out of all the contenders. 0.99

02:03:12.000 He's already the goat, though. 0.99

02:03:12.000 He is. 0.99

02:03:13.000 It's weird.

02:03:13.000 DC wants that fight again at light heavyweight.

02:03:16.000 I'm like, come on, DC. Does he?

02:03:17.000 Do at least that heavyweight.

02:03:20.000 Heavyweight's the way to go.

02:03:21.000 That's an ego thing for DC. If DC gets past Stipe, which is a big if.

02:03:25.000 It's a big if.

02:03:26.000 You gotta realize, like, DC connected with that beautiful punch in the clinch, but Stipe has had over a year to stew on that. 0.98

02:03:32.000 It's been driving him fucking crazy. 0.58

02:03:35.000 I don't think that's a good thing. 0.98

02:03:35.000 I think it's good for Stipe. 0.98

02:03:37.000 I don't.

02:03:37.000 Stipe's an animal.

02:03:38.000 I'm not worried about that.

02:03:39.000 I think he's gonna be better.

02:03:40.000 I think ring rot's an issue.

02:03:42.000 I don't think so.

02:03:43.000 DC's been way more active.

02:03:44.000 But Stipe's a real veteran, man.

02:03:46.000 He's a real veteran, and he's a humble dude.

02:03:48.000 He's a hard-ass.

02:03:49.000 He's not going to come in there with a lot of expectations on himself.

02:03:51.000 He's just going to do his best, I think.

02:03:53.000 I'm not worried at all about the...

02:03:55.000 I think it's a tougher fight for DC. Like, if Donald Cerrone was taking a year-plus off, and then was going to fight for the title, I'd be like, ooh, I'd like Donald to get a fight in.

02:04:04.000 God, I wish he would do that.

02:04:06.000 You and I are off on this. 0.99

02:04:07.000 I wish Donald would take a fucking break and not fight Tony in three days notice. 0.99

02:04:11.000 No, I agree with that too. 0.99

02:04:13.000 I wish he would take a break and not fight Tony in three weeks notice.

02:04:16.000 But, three weeks after his last fight.

02:04:18.000 But, when Donald fights a lot, as long as it's within reason, it's the best Donald.

02:04:23.000 That's what he wants.

02:04:24.000 Yes.

02:04:24.000 He just likes to get in the groove.

02:04:26.000 He likes to stay active.

02:04:27.000 I think for Stipe...

02:04:28.000 You can't be champion and do that though.

02:04:30.000 Name someone who's done it.

02:04:32.000 Go.

02:04:32.000 Yeah.

02:04:32.000 Name one guy.

02:04:33.000 Well, everyone's different.

02:04:35.000 I'm just going off measurements.

02:04:38.000 There's no one who's that active.

02:04:40.000 Who's ever fought the most as champion?

02:04:43.000 Who's fought the most?

02:04:45.000 The most?

02:04:46.000 Like the most active.

02:04:48.000 I know.

02:04:48.000 Who's the most active champion?

02:04:51.000 DC's pretty active at light heavyweight and heavyweight. 0.98

02:04:53.000 Pretty fucking active. 0.99

02:04:54.000 Pretty fucking active. 0.99

02:04:55.000 And I think John is trying to be really active. 0.99

02:04:57.000 I mean, think about it. 0.99

02:04:57.000 That whole division's fucked. 0.99

02:04:58.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:04:59.000 He's going to clear out all of them and dip out and leave them like the fucking Queen of the Dragons. 0.98

02:05:04.000 Okay, George St. Pierre fought 15 title bouts. 0.99

02:05:07.000 Wow, he had 15 title bouts.

02:05:09.000 Wow.

02:05:10.000 That's crazy.

02:05:11.000 Randy Couture, 15. How about Randy Couture?

02:05:13.000 But that doesn't mean active.

02:05:13.000 All these years later, still.

02:05:14.000 That could have been 15 over seven years.

02:05:17.000 That's still all those years.

02:05:19.000 Later, Randy Couture is still tied for the record of the most title fights.

02:05:24.000 That's crazy.

02:05:25.000 Mighty Mouse right under that with 14, Anderson 13. The difference is with all those guys, you know, I mean, it's all different eras, different divisions.

02:05:34.000 I think era means everything because I think what John's doing in the current era is more impressive than what Randy or George or Anderson did.

02:05:41.000 Who do you think is a danger to John right now?

02:05:44.000 There's no one.

02:05:45.000 At light heavyweight?

02:05:46.000 Yeah.

02:05:46.000 No one.

02:05:46.000 Absolutely no one.

02:05:47.000 Thiago Santos, I know we've got to hype it up.

02:05:49.000 I'm like, oh, punch a chance.

02:05:50.000 Yeah, for sure, I get that.

02:05:51.000 There's no one at light heavyweight.

02:05:53.000 You know what?

02:05:54.000 Johnny Walker, but he's so far removed right now, he has to get by maybe three more guys before we start being like, yeah, he might be a threat.

02:06:02.000 But he's maybe a potential.

02:06:04.000 Hope his shoulder's okay.

02:06:05.000 Mm-hmm.

02:06:06.000 If his shoulder's okay, what that guy does is crazy.

02:06:08.000 He starches people.

02:06:09.000 He starches Khalil Roundtree with an elbow in the clinch.

02:06:12.000 Remember that?

02:06:13.000 Yeah.

02:06:14.000 Vicious.

02:06:15.000 That crazy, this kind of elbow. 0.97

02:06:16.000 One of them bad boys. 0.99

02:06:17.000 Vicious. 1.00

02:06:18.000 KOs him with that, and then KOs Misha Sukarnoff with a flying knee right to the fucking chops. 1.00

02:06:23.000 Freak. 1.00

02:06:24.000 He's a freak. 0.99

02:06:25.000 But he hasn't done it like Jon has to Shogun Hua.

02:06:28.000 No.

02:06:29.000 No comparison.

02:06:31.000 Look, there's no comparison to anyone who's ever fought in the light heavyweight division and Jon Jones.

02:06:36.000 Right now, there's no comparison.

02:06:38.000 There's no threats.

02:06:39.000 Except DC. But DC lost.

02:06:41.000 He lost twice.

02:06:42.000 DC's not a threat at light heavyweight.

02:06:43.000 DC at heavyweight?

02:06:44.000 I still think he's a threat at light heavyweight.

02:06:45.000 I think he's a threat.

02:06:46.000 Not right now.

02:06:47.000 At heavyweight, yes.

02:06:48.000 Heavyweight, he's a threat.

02:06:49.000 His power goes up.

02:06:50.000 We've seen how it works out for DC. But what if DC got more dedicated and disciplined with his diet?

02:06:56.000 So what if DC fights against Stipe and says...

02:07:00.000 So when does this Stipe fight happen?

02:07:01.000 Is it July?

02:07:02.000 July?

02:07:03.000 Okay.

02:07:03.000 So what if DC says, okay, August, September...

02:07:06.000 Let's plan for New Year's Eve... 0.99

02:07:09.000 With John Jones that weekend, and he takes a week off, goes to fucking Mardi Gras, whatever the fuck he wants to do, drinks some beer. 0.99

02:07:18.000 Shout out to New Orleans. 0.99

02:07:18.000 Yeah, have some pizza, kicks back. 0.99

02:07:21.000 Yeah, for a week.

02:07:21.000 And then goes on a serious diet with a real good nutritionist who's going to check his macros, make sure he's eating healthy food.

02:07:31.000 And you think that's why he's not being John?

02:07:33.000 No, but I'm saying where he could get down to 205 healthy.

02:07:36.000 Where he doesn't have any...

02:07:37.000 Look, Daniel Cormier, if there's anything that's ever held him back, he's not the best at his diet.

02:07:44.000 But that's what makes DC great.

02:07:46.000 Well, he's one of the things that makes him great.

02:07:48.000 He's a wrestler.

02:07:48.000 He's a fantastic wrestler.

02:07:49.000 That makes him great. 0.99

02:07:50.000 He's tough as shit. 1.00

02:07:51.000 That makes him great. 1.00

02:07:52.000 His endurance is great.

02:07:53.000 Incredible mental strength.

02:07:54.000 And that could be due to his body fat.

02:07:56.000 I don't know about all that.

02:07:57.000 Some people say.

02:07:58.000 Think about the most shredded guys in the UFC. Well, I don't mean he should get shredded.

02:08:03.000 What I mean is he should make 205 with no problems, where he could go to war for five rounds with a guy like Jon Jones without weakening him.

02:08:10.000 I don't know if that's possible.

02:08:11.000 You might be right.

02:08:12.000 I don't know if it's in his DNA, especially at his age.

02:08:14.000 At 40 years of age.

02:08:15.000 I think heavyweight's the way to go.

02:08:17.000 Heavyweight, his power's up.

02:08:18.000 We saw that with Stipe.

02:08:19.000 I think if he's going to connect, which he has, in the clinch against John, the power's there.

02:08:25.000 I still think he'll be an underdog, but that gap narrows, that heavyweight.

02:08:29.000 Light heavyweight, it doesn't, especially at his age.

02:08:32.000 I think it's even further apart now that John's being more active.

02:08:35.000 Well, maybe he wants to do that to prove a point.

02:08:38.000 That's my problem.

02:08:39.000 His ego, man. 1.00

02:08:40.000 Fuck light heavyweight. 1.00

02:08:41.000 At heavyweight, dude, you're the champ. 1.00

02:08:43.000 John, if he wants to have that Lexi fight, that rubber match, go there and let's see what happens. 0.89

02:08:50.000 I kind of agree with you now.

02:08:51.000 Now that I'm thinking about it, I kind of agree with you.

02:08:52.000 Especially for DC. It's like, DC, dude, if you beat John at heavyweight and you ride off in the sunset, game, set, match, best of all time to ever do it.

02:09:03.000 Right.

02:09:03.000 Like, how about this?

02:09:04.000 Tito Ortiz right now owns Chuck Liddell, right?

02:09:07.000 Chuck Liddell smashes him two times when they're in their prime, but then Tito knocked him out.

02:09:12.000 And Chuck looked terrible.

02:09:14.000 Tito KO'd him.

02:09:15.000 It looked really bad.

02:09:16.000 And Chuck will never fight again. 0.98

02:09:17.000 And Tito will always sleep at night knowing he just fucked Chuck Liddell up. 0.73

02:09:22.000 Don't just think about those other ones. 0.98

02:09:24.000 Right.

02:09:24.000 You don't even think about it.

02:09:25.000 He got it back.

02:09:25.000 He got it back in a big way.

02:09:27.000 He got it back the way he wanted to.

02:09:28.000 He clipped him with a right hand, put his lights out, and then punched him a couple times when he's out.

02:09:32.000 And that's a wrap. 0.71

02:09:33.000 And for DC, it's like, even after the John loss, he went on to fucking heavyweight to knock out Stipe, who some can argue it's the best UFC heavyweight of all time. 0.75

02:09:43.000 He went on to beat Derrick Lewis, who's so dangerous. 0.65

02:09:45.000 And let's say he beat Stipe for a second time. 1.00

02:09:48.000 What the fuck? 0.99

02:09:49.000 You know what I was really impressed with? 1.00

02:09:51.000 I was really impressed with the way Chuck handled that loss.

02:09:53.000 Did you see the way Chuck talked about it on Instagram?

02:09:56.000 He just basically said, hey man, you put yourself out there, you go out there, you set goals, you try, and if you fail, it doesn't mean you quit. 0.96

02:10:05.000 You get back on your horse and you fucking get right back to it. 0.94

02:10:08.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:10:08.000 I try not to be so judgmental. 0.99

02:10:10.000 He let go of all the hate and all the bullshit. 0.99

02:10:12.000 I was very impressed with him. 0.99

02:10:14.000 Me too.

02:10:14.000 And I like Chuck.

02:10:15.000 He's a good person. 0.99

02:10:16.000 If John Jones is number one, Chuck's number two, as far as great light heavyweights, he was the fucking man. 0.96

02:10:24.000 I mean, when he defined the early days of the UFC, one of the things about the UFC was like this crazy thing was like cage fighting. 0.96

02:10:31.000 And here's this guy with painted toenails and a mohawk and a head tattoo.

02:10:35.000 And he's just murking people.

02:10:37.000 Murking people. 0.98

02:10:38.000 Biggest, like, was like the first big, big star in our sport to transcend and go on to entourage and have commercials and doing those fucking automotive commercials. 0.98

02:10:48.000 Lived like a rock star, too. 0.94

02:10:50.000 I mean, that dude went hard.

02:10:51.000 Where do you stand like that?

02:10:52.000 Do you remember that one interview that he did?

02:10:54.000 Where he was hammered?

02:10:55.000 He was on something.

02:10:57.000 He was on all the drugs?

02:10:58.000 He was on everything.

02:10:59.000 And he's doing morning TV. He's like, yeah, I'd like to fight the Hulk.

02:11:04.000 I wish he was real.

02:11:05.000 Isn't that great? 1.00

02:11:07.000 I love that shit. 1.00

02:11:08.000 I don't remember what the fuck he said, but he was clearly on cloud nine. 1.00

02:11:10.000 Look, he's an animal, man. 1.00

02:11:12.000 Like a legit, bona fide animal.

02:11:14.000 Whose responsibility is it?

02:11:16.000 Guys like BJ Penn, who keeps losing, to find his legacy now.

02:11:19.000 A guy like Anderson Silva.

02:11:20.000 Where do you stand on letting those guys fight?

02:11:22.000 That's a very good question, man.

02:11:23.000 If you're Dana White, what do you do? 0.97

02:11:25.000 Because at the end of the day, the commissions can go, alright, physically, yeah, man, he passed the fucking physical, so we gotta let him fight.

02:11:32.000 But at the end of the day, if they don't have a resource or a job from the head man, if Dana calls BJ... Or Chuck, just like he did with Chuck.

02:11:40.000 He's like, I'm not giving you a venue to fight at.

02:11:41.000 It's not happening.

02:11:42.000 So I wonder at what point, if you're Dana, let's say you're Dana, at what point do you tell these guys to stop fighting?

02:11:48.000 Because I feel like for Anderson, although I don't remember him that way, the new generations remember him for being this guy.

02:11:54.000 For BJ, the new generation only knows him as losing.

02:11:57.000 We know him as one of the greats.

02:11:59.000 So I feel like if I'm Dana, I owe it to them to say you can't fight anymore.

02:12:03.000 I don't know if BJ is...

02:12:06.000 Capable of competing at the level that he's competing at right now when he's losing to these guys.

02:12:11.000 I don't know if he is because it doesn't seem like he's capable of it.

02:12:14.000 Well, he's lost, what, six in a row?

02:12:15.000 Yeah. 0.98

02:12:16.000 And if I look at the BJ that I saw against Ryan Hall, up until the time he gets leg locked, he looks fucking great. 0.92

02:12:22.000 That happened fast, though, bro. 0.95

02:12:24.000 No, I know.

02:12:25.000 I'm with you.

02:12:27.000 I'm saying he looks like he's fit.

02:12:28.000 He looks like he's in shape.

02:12:30.000 He looks like he's a top fighter.

02:12:31.000 But...

02:12:33.000 He almost needs to fight a young guy coming up so we can see.

02:12:37.000 When he fights Clay Guida or he fights someone like that...

02:12:40.000 He's losing.

02:12:41.000 Yeah.

02:12:42.000 And then Ryan Hawley's losing.

02:12:43.000 I feel like...

02:12:44.000 I don't know.

02:12:45.000 He's not who he used to be.

02:12:47.000 No, obviously not.

02:12:48.000 But I don't even know where his head's at.

02:12:50.000 I feel like if I'm Dana, I'm going, hey man, I'm doing you guys a solid.

02:12:53.000 You can't fight here anymore.

02:12:55.000 And now they might go on to other organizations, but it's not the UFC. So they can go on there and compete, but you're not going to tarnish your legacy at the highest level here in the UFC. Not under my watch.

02:13:06.000 So I... I couldn't do it.

02:13:10.000 I'll never pick against BJ. I would never pick against Randy Couture.

02:13:13.000 I don't have it in me.

02:13:14.000 So when BJ fights, I'm like, I'll take BJ because I refuse to pick against him.

02:13:18.000 That's how much I respect him.

02:13:19.000 But at some point, and I couldn't do it, and obviously Dana can't either.

02:13:23.000 Could you be like, hey dude, no more.

02:13:26.000 We're done.

02:13:26.000 Well, I'd have to be friends with him like I was friends with you.

02:13:29.000 Yeah.

02:13:29.000 You know, I mean, when Yair Rodriguez 360 roundhouse kicked him in the face, that should have been the end.

02:13:34.000 I mean, that was, you saw that and compared to BJ when BJ beat Sean Shirk.

02:13:40.000 Like, you're looking at a, this is a severely different fighter.

02:13:45.000 Whose job is it to tell them?

02:13:47.000 Family and friends, I guess?

02:13:48.000 No one's job.

02:13:48.000 You know, here's the thing, man.

02:13:49.000 We can't let the fighter decide.

02:13:51.000 Well, what is, I don't think he should be competing at the highest level of the sport.

02:13:55.000 But if he still wants to compete, who's to say he can't?

02:13:57.000 Who's to say he can't go to a small organization and fight for them?

02:14:01.000 Who's to say?

02:14:02.000 Whose choice is it, Joe?

02:14:03.000 He's not getting sparked out.

02:14:05.000 I mean, he's still conscious.

02:14:07.000 Yeah, I know.

02:14:08.000 He's getting beat, but he's not getting crushed.

02:14:10.000 Nope.

02:14:11.000 And not in all the fights, at least.

02:14:12.000 I mean, the Ryan Hall one is probably the most...

02:14:17.000 Ryan Hall's going to tear anyone's knee off, though.

02:14:18.000 I hate to tell you.

02:14:19.000 If they give him anybody, he's going to do that to your knee.

02:14:22.000 Well, he's a phenomenal grappler and a super, super intelligent guy, too.

02:14:26.000 But that was probably the kindest way for him to lose, just to get tapped real quick.

02:14:33.000 Not if you're a black belt. 1.00

02:14:34.000 Beat up like Frankie Edgar did to him. 0.53

02:14:36.000 Yeah, I know.

02:14:37.000 But I guess, again, the commission, they have a tough job because physically, we can't see into his brain, but physically he's passing all the tests. 0.98

02:14:46.000 Whose job is it to tell Bernard Hopkins not to take that last fight when he got knocked out of the fucking ring? 0.95

02:14:51.000 Whose job is it to tell Roy Jones, don't go to Russia and get knocked out? 0.99

02:14:55.000 Yeah.

02:14:56.000 It's a story that's so old.

02:14:58.000 It repeats itself over and over and over again.

02:15:01.000 That's what makes these stories so great when they're in their prime and you're watching them come up and it's so special. 0.90

02:15:06.000 But it's also what makes this sport so fucking heartbreaking.

02:15:09.000 Because you know who does do that? 0.85

02:15:10.000 The NFL and the NBA. They tell you no.

02:15:12.000 They tell you no.

02:15:13.000 That's it.

02:15:13.000 And it's very black and white.

02:15:14.000 But that's because someone has to fill that position and they're not about nostalgia.

02:15:18.000 They're about who does the best job in that position.

02:15:20.000 Shouldn't the UFC be that way?

02:15:21.000 Yeah, but it's not that.

02:15:22.000 The UFC doesn't know who does the best job in that position until they set you up with somebody.

02:15:26.000 When they see you over and over and over again, then...

02:15:28.000 But the argument is he's not getting crushed.

02:15:32.000 He's not getting sparked out.

02:15:33.000 He's not getting knocked out.

02:15:34.000 He's just not as good as he used to be.

02:15:36.000 No, it's not a good argument.

02:15:37.000 But he's not as good as he used to be.

02:15:39.000 I'm not arguing.

02:15:41.000 I don't have the answer.

02:15:42.000 Why do you think he's still at the UFC? He hasn't found a passion.

02:15:47.000 I don't know.

02:15:48.000 Because he's still a draw, maybe?

02:15:50.000 Yeah, that's a good question.

02:15:51.000 Out of respect?

02:15:53.000 Is it out of respect?

02:15:54.000 What is it?

02:15:54.000 What he's done for the game.

02:15:55.000 He's earned the right to go out on his own note.

02:15:57.000 But the stakes are so high in fighting.

02:16:00.000 It's different than basketball.

02:16:01.000 I don't know whose job it's and I don't have the answer and I wish I did.

02:16:04.000 I don't know.

02:16:05.000 It's the most heartbreaking thing in sports, I think.

02:16:09.000 I agree.

02:16:09.000 And I think with BJ, if he would have found, and I don't know BJ well enough, but if he would have found a passion like I did with stand-up or podcasting or something else, he probably would have been out and never come back.

02:16:20.000 Maybe.

02:16:21.000 But the thrill of what he does...

02:16:23.000 But that's what makes BJ great.

02:16:23.000 Yeah, I mean, he's a multiple-time world champion.

02:16:25.000 The thrill of BJ when he was in his prime is probably indescribable.

02:16:29.000 Like, what brings Nate Diaz back, even though he has money in the bank?

02:16:31.000 What's going to bring Conor back?

02:16:33.000 It's not money.

02:16:35.000 Those guys were born fighters.

02:16:37.000 They're natural-born fighters.

02:16:38.000 This is what they do, and that's what makes them feel alive.

02:16:41.000 So, I don't know. 0.99

02:16:42.000 Yeah, the excitement, the thrill, the fucking... 0.99

02:16:45.000 I mean, and look, we're all going to die. 1.00

02:16:48.000 It's like...

02:16:50.000 When people say you should look out for their health, well then we should stop fighting altogether.

02:16:54.000 Correct.

02:16:54.000 And stop playing football.

02:16:55.000 Yeah, stop doing everything.

02:16:56.000 And we should probably stop drinking.

02:16:57.000 And no more driving.

02:16:58.000 Yeah.

02:16:59.000 Driving's dangerous.

02:16:59.000 Gotta walk everywhere.

02:17:00.000 If we just walk and people get in accidents walking, they'll be fine.

02:17:03.000 They'll bump into each other.

02:17:04.000 It's no big deal.

02:17:04.000 That would be cool.

02:17:07.000 I mean, there's a real argument for that, right?

02:17:10.000 You have a small window to experience this life.

02:17:14.000 Do it in what you want.

02:17:16.000 But yeah, with a guy like BJ Penn, the reality is there should probably be a number of fights that you lose in the UFC where you could just get cut.

02:17:24.000 It used to be three.

02:17:26.000 Was it a signed in-paper thing?

02:17:29.000 No, but man, when you've lost two, which I did, that third one, Joe Silva would tell your manager, and he told my manager Lex McMahon, he goes, you know, with this one, you know, It's probably over.

02:17:39.000 He wouldn't say that.

02:17:40.000 He'd go, we're giving him one more.

02:17:42.000 And you knew that was your shot.

02:17:44.000 If you lost, you were done.

02:17:45.000 Even if you won by decision, they wouldn't cut you.

02:17:47.000 You knew as long as you got the job done, you would extend.

02:17:50.000 I saw one of your interviews.

02:17:51.000 It was really interesting.

02:17:52.000 You were talking about if you bomb, you could always go down to improv and have a new set, redeem yourself.

02:17:57.000 But when you were fighting, if you lost, you'd have like six months.

02:18:01.000 Yeah.

02:18:01.000 The worst.

02:18:02.000 And just dwell on that.

02:18:03.000 And be like, no, I promise you I'm getting better.

02:18:06.000 And stand up and be like, no, I promise.

02:18:07.000 I bombed at the comic store.

02:18:08.000 I went to the improv and they laughed.

02:18:09.000 So, what's up?

02:18:10.000 What's up?

02:18:13.000 Yeah, the life of a fighter is probably the most stressful job in all of sports.

02:18:19.000 Certainly in all of entertainment.

02:18:20.000 Besides, you know, obviously when we're at war and soldiers, it's a close thing to get to Spartan.

02:18:25.000 And I do not, I don't admire it.

02:18:27.000 I feel sorry for them because I've been through it.

02:18:29.000 But That's from my perspective. 0.99

02:18:31.000 A lot of those guys, they fucking live off that, man. 0.97

02:18:35.000 Well, you're too nice. 0.99

02:18:36.000 Yeah, I'm too nice.

02:18:37.000 I felt horrible for Brazil.

02:18:39.000 I felt bad for Wilder when he got in.

02:18:40.000 I'm like, God, he's such a good dude.

02:18:41.000 I wish he would find something else to do.

02:18:44.000 I'm telling this to the Showtime guys.

02:18:45.000 I'm like, God, I hope he parlays this into something really cool after this.

02:18:48.000 He can make hundreds of millions of dollars.

02:18:50.000 I think Deontay Wilder...

02:18:51.000 He made $20 million that night.

02:18:52.000 Yeah.

02:18:52.000 He's going to go down as one of the greatest of all time.

02:18:54.000 I think so.

02:18:55.000 I think he's getting better with every fight. 1.00

02:18:57.000 And I think if Joshua gets hit on the chin with one of those fucking bombs away, we can see some crazy shit. 1.00

02:19:02.000 The thing about Wilder is he knows how to take it, too. 1.00

02:19:04.000 He can take it.

02:19:05.000 He got blasted by Ortiz.

02:19:07.000 If you notice in the Brazil fight, he got caught.

02:19:09.000 He backs up.

02:19:10.000 He got blasted against Fury.

02:19:11.000 He gets hit.

02:19:12.000 He got hit in the 12th round against Fury.

02:19:14.000 That's why him and Joshua are so interesting.

02:19:15.000 Oh, yeah.

02:19:16.000 Because Joshua...

02:19:16.000 Oh, he does.

02:19:18.000 He does.

02:19:18.000 And he's been hit before and dropped.

02:19:20.000 I did this interview.

02:19:21.000 Vladimir Klitschko?

02:19:22.000 Yeah.

02:19:22.000 Remember that fight?

02:19:22.000 And he got back off the ground.

02:19:24.000 And then starched him.

02:19:25.000 I did this interview with Fox Sports Lee Hay.

02:19:29.000 And she goes, who's the most overrated mainstream boxer?

02:19:33.000 And I answered.

02:19:34.000 I went, hmm...

02:19:35.000 I'm going to say Anthony Joshua just because I want him to hear this. 1.00

02:19:39.000 And he's like, ah, fuck that. 0.99

02:19:40.000 I'm going to fight Wilder now. 1.00

02:19:41.000 But people ran with him.

02:19:43.000 It was like, oh, he thinks Joshua's overrated.

02:19:44.000 No, I don't think Joshua. 0.99

02:19:45.000 I think Joshua's such a fucking... 0.99

02:19:46.000 He's an Olympic gold medalist. 1.00

02:19:48.000 Overrated.

02:19:48.000 No, he's beat Klitschko.

02:19:49.000 He's a world champion.

02:19:50.000 It doesn't make sense.

02:19:51.000 He's amazing.

02:19:51.000 I just want him and Wilder to fight.

02:19:53.000 He's also built like a Greek god.

02:19:55.000 You know? 0.97

02:19:56.000 It might be the sexist man alive.

02:19:57.000 He might be. 1.00

02:19:57.000 It's fucking tough. 1.00

02:19:58.000 He's jacked at like 245. Jassy. 1.00

02:20:01.000 Super shredded.

02:20:02.000 And have you heard him commentate?

02:20:04.000 Yeah, he's brilliant.

02:20:05.000 Articulate, man.

02:20:05.000 And that accent.

02:20:06.000 It's lovely.

02:20:07.000 Yeah.

02:20:08.000 Lovely, champ. 0.80

02:20:09.000 If I was gay, it'd be so on. 0.88

02:20:10.000 Let's go, champ. 0.99

02:20:11.000 It'd be so on.

02:20:12.000 Yeah.

02:20:13.000 What is happening with my man, Shannon the Cannons?

02:20:16.000 Bank of the Lex...

02:20:16.000 Let's go, champ.

02:20:18.000 He's been trying to get a fight forever.

02:20:19.000 Is he still?

02:20:20.000 Yeah, he's always trying to get a fight.

02:20:22.000 Yeah, he's always trying to get a fight.

02:20:23.000 He's too old, and it's like too much of a risk.

02:20:25.000 It's a three-man horse race, you know what I'm saying?

02:20:27.000 Three horsemen.

02:20:28.000 If you're not those three, no one will see you fight anybody.

02:20:31.000 Yeah, and you would have to be moving him up the line.

02:20:34.000 Nah, he's too old.

02:20:35.000 Did you hear Jim Gray after the fight?

02:20:36.000 What'd he say?

02:20:37.000 He goes to Wilder, he goes, and people are booing him, because he goes, and I love it, but I also get why people are booing.

02:20:43.000 He goes...

02:20:44.000 He goes, Champ, Wilder, great performance.

02:20:47.000 He goes, I hate to tell you.

02:20:48.000 And Brazil's behind him. 0.60

02:20:49.000 He goes, no one wants to see you do this to Brazil. 0.88

02:20:51.000 No one wants to see you fight Ortiz next.

02:20:52.000 That's supposedly what was supposed to be next.

02:20:54.000 No one wants to see you fight Ortiz next.

02:20:56.000 It's either Joshua or Fury.

02:20:58.000 That's all we want to see.

02:20:59.000 When are we going to get that?

02:20:59.000 Who is booing?

02:21:00.000 The crowd?

02:21:01.000 Because Brazil got starched.

02:21:02.000 I'm like, come on, he's in the ring.

02:21:04.000 But Jim Gray, there's no offense.

02:21:05.000 So they were booing Jim Gray when he said that?

02:21:07.000 Yeah, because he asked that.

02:21:08.000 But I'm like, I've been shouting from the rooftops of my podcast saying the exact same thing.

02:21:13.000 It's hard, and I told Showtime this, it's hard to sell these fights because no one cares unless it's the ones we want to see, which is what makes the UFC so great.

02:21:23.000 You know you're going to get one versus the champ.

02:21:25.000 You know you're going to get the number two guy versus the champ.

02:21:27.000 The best are fighting the best night in, night out.

02:21:31.000 Yeah, so they got mad at Jim Gray for telling the truth?

02:21:34.000 Yeah.

02:21:35.000 She's going to get mad. 0.99

02:21:36.000 That is what it is. 0.99

02:21:38.000 Jim Gray knows what the fuck he's doing. 0.99

02:21:39.000 It's also the truth. 0.99

02:21:40.000 It's the truth. 0.99

02:21:41.000 He knows what the fuck he's doing. 0.99

02:21:43.000 Look, man, I want to see Luis Ortiz. 0.98

02:21:47.000 I want to see that fight.

02:21:48.000 You want to see what?

02:21:49.000 Luis Ortiz and Wilder.

02:21:50.000 Again?

02:21:52.000 100%.

02:21:52.000 You think that should be next?

02:21:54.000 No, I'm not saying that should be next.

02:21:56.000 Look, if Joshua and Tyson Fury decide to fight and Lewis decides to fight Wilder, I'm fine with that.

02:22:03.000 You want to see it again?

02:22:04.000 I'm fine with that. 0.96

02:22:05.000 Lewis Ortiz is a beast. 0.99

02:22:07.000 He's a beast. 0.98

02:22:07.000 It's not the best fight, but I would watch the shit out of that fight more than Dominic Brazil. 0.98

02:22:12.000 Oh, for sure. 0.93

02:22:12.000 I would have loved to see that fight. 0.93

02:22:13.000 I would have loved to see that fight instead.

02:22:15.000 And I think they offered it to Ortiz, but I think Ortiz had an injury.

02:22:18.000 They offered it to Ortiz Joshua because Joshua's opponent tested hot.

02:22:21.000 That's June, right?

02:22:21.000 Yeah.

02:22:22.000 They offered it to him and he said no.

02:22:24.000 But this is boxing.

02:22:26.000 His manager goes, we want more money than that.

02:22:28.000 We want double.

02:22:30.000 Joshua's team went, on short notice?

02:22:32.000 No, we're giving you, I think it was five million.

02:22:34.000 He went ten.

02:22:34.000 Oh.

02:22:35.000 Look, Luis Ortiz is legit, bro.

02:22:38.000 Legit. 0.99

02:22:39.000 He's a fucking cubic Olympic boxer. 0.99

02:22:42.000 We have no idea how old he is. 0.99

02:22:43.000 But dude, come on. 0.99

02:22:44.000 How badass is goddamn Deontay Wilder? 0.99

02:22:47.000 I mean, he's losing that fight. 0.99

02:22:49.000 You know how technical Ortiz is? 0.95

02:22:49.000 Yes, and he cracks him, but he hits so fucking hard. 0.95

02:22:54.000 So does Ortiz. 0.97

02:22:55.000 No.

02:22:55.000 That's what's amazing.

02:22:56.000 No, he does not. 1.00

02:22:57.000 Ortiz is a killer, dude. 0.99

02:22:57.000 He's a killer, but he is not a killer the way Deontay Wilder is. 0.99

02:23:01.000 That's a totally different animal. 0.97

02:23:02.000 Joshua and Fury aren't a killer like Wilder.

02:23:04.000 When it comes to one-punch power, the hardest hitter in the world.

02:23:07.000 Wilder is made out of wood.

02:23:08.000 That dude is iron. 0.99

02:23:10.000 When he fucking hits dudes, he hits dudes in a different way. 1.00

02:23:13.000 It's like they're getting clubbed. 1.00

02:23:14.000 Boom! 0.99

02:23:16.000 It's amazing, dude. 0.99

02:23:17.000 The first thing I asked him when he did the podcast, I'm like, how the fuck do you hit so hard? 0.94

02:23:21.000 Like, look, he just knows. 0.99

02:23:22.000 He can absorb shots.

02:23:25.000 He's just smart enough to hang on there and just stand in front of you.

02:23:29.000 If you're standing in front of him, he can uncork on you.

02:23:31.000 How skinny he is.

02:23:32.000 But look at this fight, man.

02:23:33.000 He's 23 pounds.

02:23:33.000 This is a tough fight.

02:23:34.000 This is what I'm saying.

02:23:36.000 He was losing this fight, dude.

02:23:37.000 Look at this.

02:23:37.000 He's getting his body worked.

02:23:38.000 He's getting beat up.

02:23:39.000 He got clubbed there. 0.99

02:23:41.000 Dude, he is getting fucking hurt. 0.98

02:23:43.000 So this is not an easy fight for him. 0.98

02:23:46.000 And I think the rematch will be even harder.

02:23:48.000 I really, truly believe that.

02:23:50.000 I think whatever Ortiz has got left in his body, he's going to come at him. 0.99

02:23:54.000 And Deontay Wilder knows that this guy can fucking box. 0.93

02:23:57.000 The difference, I think, is with Wilder, you're dealing with a guy who is getting better with every fight because he's literally learning on the job as one of the most successful heavyweight champions of all time. 0.99

02:24:07.000 Because he's only been fighting since he was 20. He's getting better and better and better.

02:24:10.000 For Luis Ortiz, Luis Ortiz is like maintaining right now.

02:24:13.000 He's 60 years old.

02:24:14.000 He's 49,000 years old.

02:24:16.000 No, he's 60 years old from Cuba.

02:24:17.000 We have no idea.

02:24:17.000 He has 7,000 fights.

02:24:19.000 We have no idea.

02:24:20.000 And he's been popped.

02:24:22.000 He's been popped for steroids. 1.00

02:24:23.000 To quote Joey Diaz, it's fucking Fury or Joshua, go fuck your mother. 1.00

02:24:27.000 And then he dropped him. 1.00

02:24:28.000 And he dropped him here.

02:24:29.000 I think we're going to get Joshua Wilder next, man.

02:24:32.000 Listen, bro, if we don't, I'm telling you, I'm down to see this fight again.

02:24:35.000 I'm down to see this fight again.

02:24:37.000 Ortiz hurt.

02:24:38.000 He hurt Wilder, man.

02:24:39.000 No, Wilder's losing that fight.

02:24:41.000 Yep.

02:24:41.000 He hurt Wilder.

02:24:42.000 That's the happiest I've ever been. 0.99

02:24:43.000 Dude, I fucking love that guy. 0.98

02:24:44.000 I jumped out of my seat. 0.98

02:24:45.000 I love that guy.

02:24:46.000 I love his story.

02:24:47.000 I love how he is as a person.

02:24:49.000 He's fun.

02:24:50.000 Great person.

02:24:50.000 He's great.

02:24:51.000 And also, it's interesting how small he is as a heavyweight.

02:24:54.000 So thin.

02:24:54.000 When he fought Tyson Fury, he weighed 209. It's nuts, man.

02:24:58.000 209. My favorite part is he's such a beast of a dad, too.

02:25:01.000 Brings his kid, the little baby, and his wife everywhere. 0.96

02:25:05.000 Brings the rest of the kids everywhere.

02:25:06.000 I was surprised how sweet he was.

02:25:08.000 He's a warm, friendly guy.

02:25:10.000 You love him right away.

02:25:11.000 To everybody, blessings, blessings.

02:25:13.000 He's a real talent, man.

02:25:13.000 Yeah.

02:25:14.000 Like, vibrate success.

02:25:15.000 Yeah, he's the real deal, man.

02:25:16.000 It's good to be around.

02:25:17.000 I'm excited about the heavyweight division, too, because I feel the same way about Joshua.

02:25:21.000 Joshua seems like a champ of a person.

02:25:24.000 Yeah, I've never talked to him.

02:25:24.000 Seems awesome.

02:25:25.000 Yeah, like, all these interviews, he, like, comes across.

02:25:27.000 He's smiling.

02:25:28.000 He's charismatic.

02:25:29.000 He's interesting.

02:25:30.000 Probably pull up an Aston Martin.

02:25:31.000 Yeah.

02:25:31.000 Probably got one of them Land Rover V8s.

02:25:33.000 Yeah.

02:25:33.000 Those defenders.

02:25:34.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:25:35.000 Just fucks all the girls. 1.00

02:25:37.000 I'm saying that because I saw a video of him where there was a car show where they drove Anthony Joshua around. 0.99

02:25:43.000 He got to drive around one of those Land Rover Defenders, those boxy-looking military vehicles.

02:25:49.000 Oh, I love those.

02:25:49.000 Those are dope.

02:25:50.000 Those are sick. 0.90

02:25:50.000 They're about to release a new one. 0.90

02:25:51.000 They're coming out with a new one?

02:25:52.000 Yeah, Land Rover's coming out with a new Defender.

02:25:54.000 Oh, wow.

02:25:55.000 Yeah, they have a new model.

02:25:56.000 It makes sense.

02:25:56.000 They're such hits.

02:25:57.000 Just like Ford's coming out with a Bronco.

02:25:59.000 Yeah.

02:26:00.000 They're coming out with a Bronco, and they're also going to have a smaller Bronco.

02:26:03.000 Yeah, they're having a baby Bronco?

02:26:06.000 Yeah.

02:26:06.000 Like a two-door and a four-door?

02:26:07.000 And wait until they do the SVT version of it, like the Raptor version of the Bronco. 1.00

02:26:11.000 Oh, shit. 0.99

02:26:12.000 I have to get rid of the Raptor, son. 1.00

02:26:13.000 Your Raptor is one of my all-time favorite trucks. 0.99

02:26:16.000 It is such a meathead move to get a goddamn Raptor. 0.99

02:26:19.000 Especially in LA. You're such a meathead. 1.00

02:26:21.000 Like, you got bales of hay back there, son? 0.97

02:26:23.000 What are you using that pickup for?

02:26:24.000 Zero things?

02:26:26.000 What am I using for it?

02:26:27.000 Being awesome.

02:26:28.000 Being awesome.

02:26:28.000 Everything is awesome.

02:26:30.000 The thing about those two... 0.99

02:26:32.000 And it's uplifted with fucking monster truck. 0.99

02:26:34.000 Raptors are preposterous cars because they give someone the ability to drive like a real off-road vehicle with 500 plus horsepower and just get it from a factory. 0.99

02:26:43.000 It has a crazy suspension. 0.99

02:26:44.000 You could just drive over the fucking moon with that suspension. 0.98

02:26:47.000 I mean, it has crazy travel in those wheels. 0.97

02:26:50.000 So when you drive it on the highway, too, it's like smooth.

02:26:52.000 Yeah, it feels like an S-Class almost.

02:26:54.000 Yeah, it absorbs everything.

02:26:56.000 But yet it's huge.

02:26:57.000 But yet it's a monster of a vehicle.

02:26:59.000 It's a monster. 1.00

02:26:59.000 And you could accessory the fuck out of that bitch with some crazy bumpers and rear bumpers and tail bumpers. 1.00

02:27:05.000 Yep, you sure can. 1.00

02:27:06.000 Side pipes.

02:27:07.000 Correct. 1.00

02:27:08.000 I mean, side steps and shit. 0.99

02:27:09.000 What is that? 0.99

02:27:10.000 Deontay Wilder's Gator Skin Aventador.

02:27:13.000 Oh, no.

02:27:15.000 Oh, no.

02:27:18.000 Oh no!

02:27:20.000 Let's go champ! 1.00

02:27:21.000 No, I don't support this.

02:27:23.000 I'm 100%.

02:27:24.000 No way!

02:27:25.000 I love him more now. 1.00

02:27:27.000 Look at that fucking car. 0.99

02:27:28.000 I want more pictures. 1.00

02:27:29.000 Yes!

02:27:30.000 Wow!

02:27:30.000 First of all, what are you going to do with gator skin?

02:27:32.000 Listen, first of all, that's a wrap.

02:27:34.000 Okay, that's not real gator skin.

02:27:36.000 It's a wrap.

02:27:37.000 If it was real gator skin, they would have to glue it to the car and ruin it. 0.62

02:27:42.000 There's like divots on the little things.

02:27:44.000 It's a wrap. 0.85

02:27:47.000 Hush your mouth.

02:27:49.000 That's not alligator skin. 0.95

02:27:50.000 Dude, I have an alligator skin.

02:27:52.000 I hate alligators.

02:27:53.000 I don't know if you know this.

02:27:54.000 I don't like them.

02:27:55.000 I don't talk about it too much, but I have a hate for them.

02:27:57.000 You're scared of them?

02:27:58.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:27:59.000 When I was a little kid, I lived in Florida.

02:28:01.000 When I lived in Gainesville from age 11 to 13. Oh, wow.

02:28:04.000 And we lived near a place called Lake Alice.

02:28:06.000 And Lake Alice had alligators.

02:28:07.000 And I knew there was a lady that was walking her dog by the lake. 1.00

02:28:14.000 And the alligator came out and snatched her fucking dog from it. 1.00

02:28:17.000 And you saw it at like 11. I didn't see it. 1.00

02:28:19.000 I didn't see it.

02:28:19.000 But I remember that being a thing.

02:28:21.000 And I remember seeing those goddamn things all the time. 0.98

02:28:23.000 And everybody telling me that you don't have to worry about it. 0.99

02:28:26.000 When I'm 11... 0.98

02:28:28.000 My sister is 10, and we'd be hanging out at this lake, and I'd be like, what the fuck is to stop an alligator from eating us? 0.98

02:28:36.000 Nothing! 0.96

02:28:37.000 And I remember looking them in the eye, and I'm fascinated by them, right?

02:28:42.000 They're amazing, because I always loved dinosaurs when I was a kid.

02:28:44.000 It's a dinosaur.

02:28:44.000 It is a dinosaur.

02:28:45.000 And I was always into nature.

02:28:46.000 I'm always into cool nature shows and documentaries.

02:28:49.000 So I'm looking at this thing, thinking like, oh, we're just used to them being around.

02:28:54.000 Like, we shouldn't allow them to be around.

02:28:56.000 We're just used to them being around.

02:28:57.000 So we think it's cool that they're around. 1.00

02:28:59.000 But they will fucking eat you! 1.00

02:29:01.000 And they'll eat your dog. 1.00

02:29:02.000 Any chance they get.

02:29:03.000 So I started buying...

02:29:04.000 I buy alligator...

02:29:05.000 I always have alligator belts.

02:29:08.000 All my belts are always alligator.

02:29:09.000 That's gangster.

02:29:10.000 Dude, I have alligator bags for my pool cues.

02:29:14.000 I keep them in alligator.

02:29:15.000 You have alligator luggage?

02:29:16.000 I don't like it.

02:29:17.000 I have an alligator wallet.

02:29:18.000 I don't like them.

02:29:20.000 I don't like them. 1.00

02:29:21.000 I want to kill them. 1.00

02:29:22.000 I want to kill them. 1.00

02:29:23.000 If there was too many of them and they were near you, you'd want to kill them too. 1.00

02:29:26.000 They're eating machines. 1.00

02:29:28.000 They're heartless eating machines.

02:29:29.000 They got a brain the size of a thumb. 0.98

02:29:31.000 I don't like them. 0.94

02:29:32.000 Dude, how about the one at Disney World?

02:29:34.000 The parents that took their kid there, the two-year-old.

02:29:35.000 Yes. 1.00

02:29:36.000 Ate the fucking kid. 1.00

02:29:37.000 At Disney World, they have a real problem in Florida. 1.00

02:29:40.000 They have to scan the fucking property looking for alligators. 0.99

02:29:44.000 They have to go through it. 1.00

02:29:45.000 They have waters there.

02:29:46.000 I took my daughter, my youngest.

02:29:48.000 We went fishing there.

02:29:49.000 There's a lake where you go bass fishing.

02:29:52.000 It's amazing.

02:29:52.000 And there's tons of alligators in there?

02:29:54.000 Fuck yeah, there is! 1.00

02:29:55.000 You gotta be careful, man. 1.00

02:29:56.000 Anytime you got a body of water and just land around it.

02:29:59.000 In Florida.

02:30:00.000 Yeah.

02:30:01.000 No swimming in Florida.

02:30:02.000 That's my rule.

02:30:03.000 No swimming in those lakes.

02:30:04.000 No swimming.

02:30:05.000 No, anyway.

02:30:05.000 Bro, don't do it.

02:30:06.000 No swimming.

02:30:07.000 There's no water sports in Florida.

02:30:08.000 That's the rule.

02:30:09.000 Get out of the water.

02:30:10.000 No, dude.

02:30:11.000 I was in Tampa.

02:30:11.000 You want to go to the beach?

02:30:12.000 Nope. 1.00

02:30:12.000 Fuck you. 1.00

02:30:13.000 Fuck you and your shark. 1.00

02:30:14.000 Saltwater crocs. 1.00

02:30:15.000 Shark soup.

02:30:16.000 Sharks. 1.00

02:30:16.000 You got shark soup down here, bitch. 1.00

02:30:18.000 Fuck that noise. 1.00

02:30:19.000 Fuck you. 1.00

02:30:20.000 Too many ways to die in Florida. 1.00

02:30:21.000 Dude, the craziest thing that's happening right now in the Everglades is the pythons.

02:30:25.000 They said that there's been a 90 plus percent decrease in the amount of rabbits, possums, raccoons, deer, like all the major mammals that live in the Florida Everglades are gone.

02:30:40.000 They've all been killed by pythons!

02:30:42.000 God!

02:30:42.000 They took a Judas python.

02:30:44.000 You know what a Judas python is?

02:30:46.000 They take a python, they put a chip in it so they can track it.

02:30:48.000 So they have this male python, and they sent him out there to find the females.

02:30:52.000 And they used him to locate, using the GPS, to locate a 16-foot python.

02:31:00.000 16-foot female python that was pregnant.

02:31:02.000 Game's that match. 1.00

02:31:03.000 Yeah, so he's banging these bitches out there, making them pregnant. 1.00

02:31:06.000 And these whores are watching. 1.00

02:31:07.000 And these evil fucking snakes. 1.00

02:31:10.000 Look at that thing. 1.00

02:31:10.000 Is that it? 1.00

02:31:11.000 No.

02:31:12.000 Snake's boyfriend leads hunters to- Why would they kill it? 1.00

02:31:14.000 They have to kill it, bro. 0.99

02:31:15.000 Why? 1.00

02:31:16.000 That thing's awesome.

02:31:17.000 No, no, no.

02:31:17.000 They're invasive.

02:31:18.000 They're not supposed to be there.

02:31:19.000 It had 73 eggs.

02:31:21.000 And it was more than 17 feet long.

02:31:23.000 Can you imagine stumbling across that thing? 0.99

02:31:24.000 No, you're dead. 1.00

02:31:25.000 You're dead. 1.00

02:31:26.000 That thing weighs as much as you do. 1.00

02:31:27.000 You're dead. 1.00

02:31:28.000 Holy fuck. 1.00

02:31:29.000 Yeah, that's probably a 200-pound snake. 1.00

02:31:32.000 Oh my god, is that it? 1.00

02:31:33.000 Little bitch ass, 140. 140? 1.00

02:31:35.000 I'm getting away from that snake. 1.00

02:31:36.000 Get the fuck out of my face. 1.00

02:31:37.000 Fuck, I got a knife. 1.00

02:31:37.000 Speaking of snakes, I'm gonna live. 1.00

02:31:38.000 I gotta pee so hard.

02:31:40.000 Go ahead, Pete, let's wrap this up.

02:31:42.000 People who want to see your special, they can watch it on Showtime on demand.

02:31:45.000 Yeah, you can watch it for free.

02:31:47.000 Go to Showtime.com, you get 30 days of Showtime for free.

02:31:49.000 Go to Showtime.com, promo code SHOB, you can watch it for free.

02:31:53.000 And you better do some more of those improv shows.

02:31:56.000 I got a bunch coming up.

02:31:57.000 Dude, tell me why I'm here.

02:31:58.000 I love doing them.

02:31:59.000 Let me do it, brother.

02:32:00.000 Let me do those.

02:32:00.000 I want to say thank you to you, though, brother.

02:32:02.000 I wouldn't have even been on this journey if it wasn't for you, man.

02:32:04.000 Dude, I'm proud of you.

02:32:05.000 I love you.

02:32:05.000 I love you, too, brother.

02:32:06.000 I'm very, very happy for you.

02:32:07.000 Thank you, man.

02:32:08.000 All right, my friends.

02:32:09.000 Bye.

02:32:09.000 See ya.

The Joe Rogan Experience - May 23, 2019

Joe Rogan Experience #1304 - Brendan Schaub

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