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00:01:21.000But then you're still feeling like you're fucking...
00:01:23.000Okay, so you're saying, like, take the insides of a fleshlight, the good feeling part, and stuff it into that hole?
00:02:14.000Yeah, meaning like, I like, Chappelle one time said he'd made a fortune, he talked his way into a fortune, and now I realize what he means, just because I've been doing a lot of road shows and gigs and shit, and you just have to talk.
00:02:29.000Like, you gotta go do radio and talk and talk and talk, and you just, and I go, oh yeah, I like talking.
00:02:33.000It doesn't feel like work to me to go, when people are like, do you hate doing radio?
00:02:45.000Well, you're a writer as well, and writing is so much more difficult than just talking shit.
00:02:52.000Well, that's what made me realize that this guy, Alan Stevens, or Stevan Comedian, he wrote for Roseanne, and he said, he goes, I'm actually not even a writer, I'm just a bullshitter.
00:03:03.000Which is like, I know what he means now.
00:03:06.000The minute he said it, I was like, I'm a bullshitter too.
00:03:38.000First of all, I don't want to have to pitch to a guy that I secretly don't think is funny.
00:03:42.000Yeah, and there's something about bouncing some off like-minded people's heads that also allows you to come up with some shit.
00:03:49.000You know, when you know a guy's already got several steps of the puzzle figured out along with you, and then you go, what the fuck is this?
00:03:59.000Chappelle used to say that he and I were like thrill killers.
00:04:02.000Where he'd, like, stab the person, and I'd be like, cut her fucking head off, Dave!
00:04:07.000Because you're just so, like, you want to one-up that person, then he one-ups you, and then you're really doing it.
00:04:17.000That always offends me when people put comedians on the line for really, really outrageous shit they said on stage, as if they really mean that.
00:04:37.000When you're talking to a bunch of comics and you're hanging out with comics, we're going to go to the most fucked up place possible because that's the only way to make the other person laugh.
00:04:46.000That's the only thing that gets us off anymore.
00:04:49.000It doesn't mean we endorse the idea of whatever it is, bestiality, pedophilia, whatever it is.
00:05:14.000The other night at the Comedy Store, I do a joke about Mark Twain and how they're taking all the N-words out of Huckleberry Finn, and I end up saying nigger like seven times.
00:08:40.000There was one scene where it was late at night and there was tons of little white children in their beds and then there's this black child cranking this fan to fan all the white children when they slept.
00:08:55.000There was a part where the main actress, the one that Clark Gable says, you know, frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn, that girl, she has a slave, and she's slapping the slave in the face because she wouldn't shut up or something like that.
00:10:07.000But the whole thing, though, is so creepy because now they have the intermissions and the opening sound, what used to play in the movie theater.
00:10:15.000So you're sitting there for 15 minutes in the middle of the movie listening to piano music thinking about racism.
00:12:16.000They should E.T. the gun out of all these movies?
00:12:19.000Do you think they should CGI the black people with toasters?
00:12:21.000I don't think they should do anything.
00:12:22.000I think what they did was create a work of art, and that work of art reflects honest behavior.
00:12:27.000But when you put it on television, it's a very tricky thing.
00:12:30.000Now, if you're going to air that on TBS, you know, their animals have to lose their souls.
00:12:35.000Yeah, I wonder if they, when it airs on television, if that...
00:12:39.000Well, I don't endorse them censoring it, but I could see where people would not want their kids to be exposed to certain things that are in certain movies.
00:16:38.000It's kind of an interesting situation with a lot of athletes.
00:16:41.000There's a lot of athletes that just, they're not nice people.
00:16:44.000It's like part of getting good at the sport means kind of being a douchebag.
00:16:47.000Well, that's what we were talking about, is being, and you could talk, this would actually be an interesting thing, because I would like to make a legit documentary about this.
00:18:05.000Because every study of human happiness, particularly there's a lot of sociological studies coming out in the last five to ten years, say that people don't get any happier beyond a certain financial point.
00:18:17.000They don't get any happier With possessions.
00:18:34.000Where you kind of go, well, alright, let's see what happens.
00:18:38.000I think it's not perfect, but I think the idea of, you know, your work and your merit and your ability to maneuver your way through the system counts up to something.
00:18:48.000The more effort you put in, the more reward you get back.
00:20:01.000I think people start their own business because they don't like working for other people.
00:20:05.000And they have an idea that they want to create by themselves.
00:20:11.000And I don't think it comes down to, I'm not going to do it because taxes are too high.
00:20:16.000And Warren Buffett made that point that capital gains tax, meaning taxes on money you make in profit on the stock market, like if you invest $100,000 and then you make $15,000 off of it, they will tax the $15,000.
00:20:56.000I think if they paid you to host Fear Factor and a podcast and news radio and all this shit, if you did the same, if we all got paid relatively the same amount of money.
00:21:59.000But, yeah, you're born into this life, and then you go because you don't.
00:22:03.000It's like when Barbara Bush said during Hurricane Katrina, she goes, about the people in the Superdome, she goes, some of those people have never lived so well.
00:23:11.000I think most people that are doctors are compelled to be doctors.
00:23:15.000I don't think anyone can get into it for the money.
00:23:17.000I believe that, but I don't think it's either or.
00:23:18.000You don't think that a doctor is compelled to be a doctor and enjoys it, but works even harder because he gets financial compensation for his work?
00:23:27.000I personally don't, because I think that people that are driven are not driven by financial renumeration.
00:23:36.000Right, but you don't think it enhances things?
00:23:38.000Even if they're not driven by it, even if they would be doing it happily for a peasant's wage because they love the art of whatever the fuck they're doing, you don't think that it makes them really push it and huff it sometimes and not slack off when there's money on the line?
00:24:29.000Why do we all have this need to like, I gotta fucking work and I gotta generate and I gotta make fucking, I gotta trick people into wanting to buy shit that I'm doing so that I can get money and then buy shit that I've been tricked into buying that I don't need.
00:24:42.000I don't need any This is a thought that I've been bouncing around forever, and my conclusion, and I don't have a real conclusion.
00:24:52.000But what I always believe is that it seems that everything in nature operates in some sort of a natural system that we accept.
00:24:59.000Whether it's salmon going up river, there's bizarre things, you know, they're going up river and throwing themselves over the rocks, and it happens every year.
00:25:06.000It's just, there's a cycle, and it's put in place for a reason.
00:25:10.000It's put in place to make sure that only bad motherfucker salmon get to breed.
00:25:43.000It has nothing to do with you or I. All of our wants and needs and loves for material possessions and all the things that comes with it, all that is doing is somehow or another pushing innovation, pushing you keeping up with the Joneses, pushing some sort of a technological singularity that we're pushing towards.
00:26:00.000Right, but having said that, do we not I think we just let it is.
00:26:19.000Like, the middle class is gone now because we've all been tricked into thinking, like, that people that provide jobs are these fucking messiahs of, like...
00:26:29.000Particularly in the last year and a half of, like, what about the jobs?
00:26:33.000They go, we don't want to hurt, we don't want to tax people like Warren Buffet because they provide jobs.
00:26:38.000Actually most jobs in America, I think 60% of America are from small businesses.
00:26:44.000So I guess it's just the idea of they're starting to study gross national happiness and a lot of it is not contingent upon capitalism and productivity.
00:27:02.000Because now I feel like people are so drunk on productivity And getting these possessions, that they have less time for their kids, they got to work two jobs, and it just seems like we're at a breaking point in terms of...
00:27:19.000I don't know if it'll happen, but I wish there was some amount of consideration from people.
00:27:27.000And having said that, I enjoy a hard day's work.
00:27:36.000That's what I've always loved about work is the personal connection you have with people and feeling like we're doing this thing together.
00:27:42.000That I'm completely for, but it's like the money part I just find not negligible because I think it's important to make a living and all that stuff, but I just feel like there's too much of a premium put on productivity There are, but you know what?
00:28:27.000Or like, as the guy on the internet the other day said, Felonious Monk is the guy's name.
00:28:33.000He posted a YouTube video that got a lot of love.
00:28:35.000He said, Black Dude, he goes, how can you, how am I going to say that capitalism is the best system in the world when we owe billions of dollars to a communist country?
00:30:30.000I have to write about this shit because we're the ones who are supposed to know and we don't fucking know.
00:30:35.000And he said the amount of work it takes to even understand it, he's like, it was pitifully boring how much shit he had to do to even begin to understand it.
00:30:46.000And his point about Tea Party people was what they long for Is simplicity.
00:31:09.000But having said that, the Boston Tea Party was about taxation with representation, and this is about Complex financial instruments and the interconnectivity of the global financial system.
00:31:23.000They don't know what a fucking reverse mortgage, all that shit, that you just go, I don't know what the fuck...
00:31:46.000Shorting I could actually explain to you, but yeah.
00:31:49.000Shorting I could explain relatively simply, but the...
00:31:52.000What about that dude that shorted the economy, that there was some gigantic wage made that our American economy is going to lose its AAA standard?
00:32:02.000Yeah, and he made billions of dollars.
00:32:04.000Yeah, some guy made a fuckload of money when our credit rating dropped.
00:33:10.000The way the system is set up, and this goes back to my capitalism argument, the way the system is set up, if these corporations' profits don't increase every 12 weeks, their stock price goes down.
00:33:28.000Either fucking expand your market or cut workers.
00:33:32.000And cut workers is a fucked up thing to do, and expanding markets is a pretty dastardly business too.
00:33:39.000So they're not, you know, the only way you survive in these...
00:33:44.000I remember when me and Chappelle were having our stuff with Comedy Central and all that stuff, and I'd go, yeah, they're Viacom for a reason.
00:33:57.000They are hungry machines that are built to hoard money and fuck people over.
00:34:05.000When you get into negotiations with anyone about anything, you start realizing what money is all about.
00:35:55.000I was watching a show the other day, though, where you can now, with the HD, you can see the makeup, the bad makeup jobs on all these people.
00:36:02.000And now I'm just imagining you with rosy cheeks.
00:36:51.000It will accelerate the growth of any kind of cell, right?
00:36:53.000There's no evidence that it supports cancer growth.
00:36:56.000But there is evidence that if your body's immune system is down and you're not healthy, then cancer can grow in your body easier.
00:37:03.000If your overall system is operating more efficiently because of hormones that you've introduced to it or because of vitamins and supplements, if your system is working better, you're going to be able to fight things off better.
00:37:15.000It's really that simple if you take a holistic approach to the human body.
00:37:18.000Cancer is a very tricky mystery of the human body as to why it exists in the first place, but a lot of people believe that anything, any ailment That at least part of it has to do with how you feel, what kind of energy you have, how much work you have to put in every day, how happy are you?
00:37:37.000And the idea is, how much is the whole system...
00:38:19.000Again, it goes back to that you can be anything in this country.
00:38:22.000You can be anything in this country, and you never hear it from when people go, you can be anything in this country.
00:38:28.000Having said that, if you're white, if you're born into upper middle class white people or above, it's way easier to be anything, which they never said.
00:38:39.000Well, no one's saying it's a level playing field, and it's impossible to make it level.
00:40:55.000And if you listen to some of the stories that he told, I don't know if it's true, but by shitting himself and by doing crystal meth and getting his heart rate up and then showing up, I don't know which of those stories are true.
00:42:11.000When they swift-boated John Kerry, Bill Clinton had the best point, which is the minute they swift-boated him, when they said he wasn't a hero, he wasn't all that stuff, he should have challenged Dick Cheney and George Bush to a debate about Vietnam.
00:42:26.000And he would have won the election like that.
00:42:29.000I think the way he laid down after that was all over, it was almost like he's not really wanting to be president in the first place.
00:43:34.000No, I mean about the people, about people, their behavior, what they accept and what they don't accept, why they're driven and why they're not driven.
00:46:23.000But in terms of when you talk about action stars, I feel like action stars now, it's like, yeah, it's like the new guy's going to be that guy, Tom Hardy.
00:47:47.000Whenever you see some fucking guy and he gets busted doing something creepy sexually and he's like a senator, Fox News will always put Democrat next to that guy.
00:47:57.000Doesn't matter if that guy's a Republican.
00:47:59.000They'll put Democrat, and then they correct it.
00:48:02.000But the most important thing is, the first inclination, the first image was, another pervert Democrat.
00:48:40.000Because I went on the road, and I had people showing up from Twitter.
00:48:44.000And I was getting a bunch of money at the door.
00:48:48.000I was getting a percentage of the door instead of this thing of...
00:48:51.000Yeah, we'll give you $1,500 for the weekend, and then maybe if you make the bonus, which you're never going to make, and then I can do one show, tweet it out, and get a grand.
00:49:02.000Get a fair wage for the skill and the popularity, instead of them going, like, you know you're not popular, and you're going, but I have 80,000 people on Twitter who say I'm popular.
00:49:17.000People come to the show, and yet you're telling me So that's what's great about the internet, is it is really fair, and I didn't even realize the sort of power of it.
00:49:59.000Yeah, it's got, I mean, I don't know how many thousands of members, but it's super active.
00:50:03.000I mean, people are constantly posting on it on a regular basis.
00:50:06.000There's great value in connecting with people online.
00:50:11.000The biggest resource in human history for gathering information, for being introduced to new information, is this.
00:50:19.000Nothing like Twitter has ever existed before.
00:50:21.000Every fucking day, someone I don't know is sending me some cool link.
00:50:26.000Yesterday it was some fucking crazy video where these dudes took a hornet and they threw it into a spider's nest to see who would win, the hornet or the spider.
00:51:55.000Yeah, look, dude, Eddie Bravo went to Costa Rica once, and he told me how horrifying it was laying in this place, because it was like an open-air cabana, and that's how they kind of kept it cool.
00:52:04.000They were by the ocean, and like above the wall, there was like a gap between the ceiling and the wall, where just air comes in, and fucking bugs, and he said there were like birds, these bird-sized bugs, flying around the fucking room.
00:52:20.000Yeah, that kind of shit freaks me out.
00:53:06.000You know, because I'm running with the pit bulls, and I have to keep up with them, and I'm taking the turn, and as I take the turn, we go over.
00:53:10.000They didn't notice it either, thank God, because it was totally outstretched.
00:53:14.000They go over it, I go over it, and then I stop and turn.
00:53:17.000I pull them over, I get them on the leashes, and I start pulling up to the thing, and it's like my forearm, dude.
00:54:24.000I've been involved in controversial shit from the beginning of my career.
00:54:28.000I think that if you can express yourself, as long as you can let people know how you feel about things, you should do what the fuck you like.
01:02:06.000Well, you could get involved with a chick and then she could turn vegan on you.
01:02:10.000And then you're in the middle of the relationship and all of a sudden they're giving you shit about eating cheeseburgers and stuff and you're like, oh fuck, really?
01:03:29.000I'll do all these things that I would like to do today and write some jokes instead of being out here in some fucking rock quarry with six different knuckleheads that want to be famous on TV.
01:03:40.000But then I would have that pot lollipop and I would soak in the full experience.
01:03:45.000And then all of a sudden I'm like a fucking scientist.
01:03:48.000Then all of a sudden I'm studying human behavior and taking it all in.
01:03:53.000I'm thinking about the distance between the sun and the earth and how this atmosphere keeps the heat in and how crazy it is that if it just shifts a little bit we freeze to death.
01:04:25.000Somebody told me to ask you about something that's like, it's the chemical that gets released when you die, but you can eat it or smoke it or something.
01:05:07.000But weed, as Elise has admitted, even the government has admitted, has certain medical properties to it.
01:05:14.000You're very hard-pressed to come up with medical properties for DMT. The problem is, DMT exists in many different plants, not just one, and all the plants that it exists in are legal.
01:05:25.000So you can actually have a plant that contains DMT in it.
01:05:28.000It's not like having a marijuana plant which contains THC. The DMT plant would not be illegal.
01:05:33.000It would only be illegal if you extracted it, if you went into the plant and took this stuff out.
01:05:38.000But the problem is it also exists in your own body.
01:05:40.000It's like Terrence McKenna had a joke.
01:05:42.000Everybody's holding when it comes to DMT. You're all legal.
01:07:12.000Because the marijuana, when you eat it especially, anything that's fucking with you, anything that's in your head that you're not happy with just gets exposed.
01:09:18.000So somehow when you got the common cold, you also went on this vast LSD trip.
01:09:23.000And I was like, wow, that is brilliant.
01:09:25.000Yeah, until you get some kid that has, you know, whatever, some kind of Alzheimer's, or not Alzheimer's, but autism, and then he gets that, and then he goes out and shoots up a...
01:09:36.000What a genius idea, though, the idea of spreading something psychoactive through a cold.
01:09:43.000Just the idea of a cold, to me, is so bizarre.
01:09:45.000The idea that there's some invading organism that tries to shut your body down and consume it, and you have to battle it with your immune system.
01:09:52.000But the fact that maybe this invading army might carry psychedelic chemicals?
01:10:25.000There's one doctor that's like a very well-respected doctor, and he's a teacher at the University of California in Berkeley, and he, for whatever reason, doesn't believe that HIV causes AIDS. Yeah, I mean, again, I think all conspiracy theorists and all that shit is just about people going like, they're lying.
01:10:48.000It's like calling bullshit all the time so that you feel like you have the upper hand on life.
01:10:56.000Yeah, this is the only thing, the only reason why I listen to this guy at all, I mean, I don't, but the only reason why I would, is that he's a PhD professor in molecular biology at the University of California, Berkeley.
01:11:06.000That sounds like a guy who knows things.
01:11:08.000Yeah, but having said that, there's hundreds of guys that contradict that.
01:11:12.000I know, but it's just so funny when a guy like this, like, this is my point of view, I'm in no way saying that HIV does not cause AIDS, nor would I ever, what the fuck do I know?
01:11:31.000When a guy like this Peter Duisburg guy, who is way more educated than me in the subject, and way smarter than me, too.
01:11:38.000When this guy has some fucking, you know, all these website articles and all these published papers on this shit, and he believes that AZT was what was killing all these people back in the day.
01:11:55.000I mean, he might be just as crazy as the person that's saying that the end of the world was going to happen two months ago, you know?
01:12:00.000You know, it's funny how much worse alcohol is for you than AIDS. Because look, Magic Johnson is alive and kicking with HIV, but Amy Winehouse is dead as fuck due to alcohol.
01:13:28.000Okay, I'll know who it is immediately.
01:13:30.000He used to say, he would go up to girls and go, they say that spontaneity is a sign of intelligence, and you strike me as a very spontaneous person.
01:13:43.000Let's say we go back to my place and fuck or something.
01:14:18.000Well, this is one of the reasons why, because, look, even from people that I disagree with on some things, I may agree with very much so on other things.
01:14:26.000And one of the things I agree with him is he's a hunter, and he gets all of his food from his own ranch.
01:15:04.000If you want protein from animals, it's probably the best way to get it for you, and it's probably the best way to get it for your head so you understand what the fuck meat is.
01:15:13.000The reason why American Indians were so vigilant when it came to using every single part of that animal is because they knew how goddamn hard it was to get a deer.
01:16:55.000You know, the reason those kids in London were rioting is because they fucking are poor and they have nothing to do.
01:17:02.000Well, listen, there's a thing going on in Florida right now where they have a real problem with these pain management centers.
01:17:07.000And what it is is legal drugs, oxycontins.
01:17:11.000You can get them at a pain management center where you go in and you literally go to a doctor and then right next door from the doctor, after he writes you a prescription, there's a pharmacy.
01:17:25.000They figured out a way to make heroin in a pill form, and then it got released.
01:17:28.000Well, if someone ever does release, whether it's psilocybin or whatever the fuck it is, when they start releasing it as a medicine, and they are working on that.
01:17:38.000Yeah, there was a thing a couple weeks ago about it.
01:17:42.000They have the dosage that is not too much and that will get everyone nice and high.
01:17:47.000What's going to happen is that shit's going to get out, just like it gets out in Florida.
01:17:50.000I don't know what state it's going to be, but there's going to be one state where the pharmaceutical companies make some fucking creepy deal with the congressmen and with the senators, and somehow or another they allow...
01:18:02.000The way Florida's set up is you could be a doctor, you could prescribe Brian some OxyContin, and then Brian goes next door to me, I'm a doctor, I prescribe him some OxyContin, and he goes down the street and he just keeps going.
01:18:12.000You just go to as many places as you want.
01:18:14.000As long as you don't come in scratching your fucking skin off with blood coming out of your eyeballs, they just move you on to the next.
01:18:21.000Yeah, but I don't think, but even the cybacillin thing, I think if you feel like I just feel like we're locked into this thing of possession.
01:21:13.000It was a couple years ago I took a break, and I remember I'd be out with my girlfriend at the time at dinner with her and her friends, and I literally would be falling asleep.
01:21:24.000Not because the regular reasons guys want to fall asleep, just because I couldn't...
01:21:40.000But I just realized before I started taking that 5-HTP stuff that I started taking recently and up my dosage of Zoloft, my neck and back and shoulders were fucking tight and knotted up all the time for like years.
01:25:10.000And they fucking yell over who gets what spot, and they try to steal the right spots in the room, and they yell at each other when they throw kicks too close to each other.
01:25:18.000I have a theory that women would be better off if they could punch each other in the face.
01:25:23.000All that, like, snapping and cattiness would go out the window.
01:25:26.000That's why guys aren't catties, because I know if I do it more than twice, you're going to punch me.
01:25:33.000And there is nothing legislating women's behavior the way that there is with guys.
01:25:39.000I've had guys on the set of TV shows that I was in charge of.
01:25:44.000There was a sound guy named Charles who I sort of snapped at one time.
01:25:48.000And he looked at me like, you know I will fuck you up.
01:26:11.000You saw the video that I made in Milwaukee?
01:26:16.000I did a show in Milwaukee and afterwards I just went out and took pictures with people for like an hour and a half and these black chicks guarded me.
01:26:24.000They put their back to the crowd and stood in a semi-circle and created this system where people had to go through them this way and when you entered in, you entered in only from here and then you left only that way.
01:26:42.000My YouTube channel is JoeRogan.net, D-O-T-N-E-T. There's a video, I don't know, it says something about Joe Rogan shows love to the Milwaukee, something.
01:27:12.000Because for a while, they only had in Baltimore, they had the improv, and then the improv went under, and I had never heard about anything else.
01:28:56.000And we also have to figure out how to keep corporations from being so fucking corrupt and crooked that they're able to get away with the shit they're able to get away with.
01:29:04.000Yeah, but nothing's going to stop because the corporations themselves are buying messages saying, don't touch us, we provide jobs, and that's all you care about, and jobs will give you more shit.
01:29:15.000Not only that, they're paying masses of money, giant sums of money, to help politicians get into office.
01:31:52.000There's also the thing, did you see, did you read, what the fuck was that New York Times book?
01:31:58.000It was where they said the reason crime went down is because, crime started going down in 91 and abortion was made legal in 73. Basically saying all the guys that would have been 18 and criminals were aborted.
01:34:38.000They put it euphemistically, but it is basically your child's going to be brain damaged, disabled, whatever, and a lot of people get abortions because of it.
01:36:08.000And what you come away with is, it's fucking brutal.
01:36:12.000Whether you're for it or against it, you know, when they do an abortion and they have to find all of the parts, they put it on like a medical thing, and the nurse has to find two legs, two arms, a head, like just where you just go, that is so awful, I can't believe it.
01:36:31.000But it's such a, watch the documentary, hopefully it's on Netflix.
01:36:58.000I am liberal, but it's one of those things where I just go, wow, I'm for it, but I'm not, like, for it.
01:37:06.000I believe it should be allowed, but I'm not, like, I'm not on some, like, you fucking, you know, you stand up has the best joke about it, where people are for it in case of incest or rape.
01:37:18.000And he's like, so you're for it if the dad is an asshole.
01:39:13.000That's one of those blind spots, though, that we live with all the time.
01:39:17.000But yeah, there's tons of things we do that are just like, that's pretty fucked up that you just walk past homeless people, you walk past poor people, and you just go, eh, fuck it.
01:39:42.000And I believe that women would stay in, raise the babies.
01:39:45.000I honestly believe that, like the way gorillas do it.
01:39:47.000It's like all the women gorillas stay, they watch the babies, and the guys just do the perimeter, stay in the perimeter, and fight, and hunt, and protect.
01:40:00.000It's just we have the same genetics, but now we're in these giant groups of 300 million people all pushed together onto this one continent.
01:42:08.000I assume that no one likes me, so when people are there, and eventually I'm going to be right, and when people are at the show, I just go, if I saw them in public, I wouldn't think, oh, that guy's coming to the Neil Brennan show.
01:42:20.000How many shows have you performed now?
01:42:24.000How many months have you been doing this tour?
01:43:03.000As Kevin once, my brother, once said, you know you're doing a lot of stand-up when you're comfortable on stage and uncomfortable at the grocery store?
01:43:14.000The thing about The Road is you do so much stand-up that when you're not doing it, you're a little bit like, oh, what am I? Oh, yeah, no, I should be doing stand-up.
01:43:38.000I no longer see it as a lion that I've got a whip and a chair and I'm keeping them back.
01:43:43.000Now I see it more like I'm immersed like Diane Fossey.
01:43:51.000I'm in the middle of the crowd and I feel like they won't overwhelm me.
01:43:56.000That feeling that you need to overwhelm them and control them and whip them is basically the same feeling that unattractive men have towards women when they're unsuccessful.
01:44:06.000You know that anger that men have towards women?
01:44:08.000A lot of comedians have that anger towards the audience.
01:44:11.000Just because of the constant rejection.
01:44:13.000So you're almost like, fuck these fucking people, fuck these fucking people.
01:48:42.000But looking back, it was definitely pressure.
01:48:46.000But that's what's nice to be in a place where it's just more like, the audience is like, they just have, it's like the Robin landing on your shoulder and fucking, now I'm the chimney sweep from Mary Poppins.
01:49:02.000So you've started doing your own podcast.
01:49:06.000Have you noticed immediately an impact?
01:49:08.000Like the podcast fans are coming to your shows?
01:49:10.000Not immediately, because we've only done two.
01:49:12.000Our third one will go up now, I think, called The Champs.
01:49:19.000Yeah, it hasn't happened yet, but I believe it will.
01:49:23.000Look, if 10,000 people listen to it, then that's 10,000 people that either sort of knew me or didn't know me or knew me and will now feel more connected.
01:49:35.000Because I think that's the new paradigm, is just feeding people.
01:50:50.000That's a very sterile way of looking at it.
01:50:52.000But it's not, but it's a human, here's what I've noticed.
01:50:55.000I've noticed when I was on your podcast, a lot of people came and were like, hey man, I heard you on podcast, I didn't know who you were, I didn't know what you were about.
01:51:03.000And because of this, so yes, to answer your question, people have come out, but not because of my podcast, because of your podcast.
01:51:11.000I think what you're saying makes a lot of sense, but it makes it seem like you're analyzing it like the stock market.
01:52:20.000You don't even know them and you're friends with them.
01:52:21.000And they start thinking like you guys think and going over the ideas that get discussed on the podcast and talk about them amongst their friends.
01:52:28.000And all these good ideas blossom and grow.
01:52:30.000Yeah, that's the thing of like, you do give it for free, but it's about the connection.
01:55:59.000Apparently, though, I know a dude who did heroin who says that you can go fuck yourself, and everybody that says that it's tough to quit cigarettes, he goes, heroin is way harder to quit than cigarettes.
01:56:07.000And people always say, quitting cigarettes is harder than quitting heroin.
01:56:46.000It took them 40 years to get it finally to the point where it's like, all right, you can sell them, but we're going to tax them at such a high rate.
01:56:53.000We're going to tax them at a cartoonishly high rate.
01:56:56.000It's amazing, too, that some people have actually sued for, like, damage.
01:57:00.000You know, they've sued the tobacco companies and won, you know?
01:57:42.000If you're going to eat yourself into obesity and then you're going to drain the healthcare system, you're going to drive up the cost of my healthcare, the cost of the government.
01:57:51.000I mean, that was a lot of the stuff with the tobacco industry.
01:57:54.000They had to pay states because states were fucking paying so much money to treat people with lung cancer that you kind of go, okay, well then what?
01:59:16.000And then just kept going to these cafes and in their online world they had a child together and they came home one night and their real baby had died from starvation.
01:59:30.000Because they were so hooked on the internet.
02:00:49.000Everybody thinks that taxing things is a solution, but you're going to give that money to an inept government that's just going to create more fucking jobs.
02:00:55.000And it's not going to go towards what you want it to go toward.
02:00:57.000It's going to go towards many, many jobs being set up for the spreading of this money that you brought in through new taxes.
02:01:05.000Most of the time, you raise taxes, you're going to raise government.
02:01:08.000The government gets bigger, there's more jobs, more people working in the government.
02:01:11.000Very few things actually get fixed, but there'll be more people working.
02:01:15.000Okay, well, or you can, everyone can, the alternative in these, in the case of cigarettes and...
02:01:34.000But if you're going to go by the law that the government has, the pattern of behavior that the government has been pushing since forever, that they're looking out for the best interests of their citizens, how is that possible?
02:01:44.000But again, the tobacco stats are pretty encouraging.
02:01:46.000I mean, if you say that's a good start...
02:01:49.000450 million people, or 450,000 people, rather, in this country alone.
02:01:54.000450,000, just in this country, and 5 million worldwide.
02:04:24.000I think it might be a small percentage, but I think, you know, some people that invest, they do invest with their, you know, just people that invested in Ford that are all excited that Ford's doing well because it's an American company.
02:04:34.000You know, they invest with their head and their heart at the same time.
02:04:36.000Yeah, but I think that that's not the...
02:05:27.000Anything else to me seems that it's investing.
02:05:29.000You invest your money, you buy shares of a stock that you believe in, whether you believe in them because you like them or whether you believe in them because you think it's a good...
02:06:00.000Right, but it has nothing to do with, I like the company, I like, it's just, they have a good CEO. It doesn't have to have anything to do with that.
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