The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1394 - Matt Farah

00:00:00.000 I gotta get a picture of that.

00:00:02.000 Matt Fair, ladies and gentlemen.

00:00:04.000 Joe Rogan.

00:00:05.000 We're going live.

00:00:06.000 Are we?

00:00:06.000 Dude, the interior of your car is fucking disgusting, and I can't believe you like it.

00:00:10.000 Why would you do that when you can get any interior?

00:00:13.000 You could make it any color.

00:00:14.000 You decided to do, what is it, bus?

00:00:17.000 It's city bus fabric.

00:00:18.000 City, legitimately?

00:00:19.000 It's actual city bus fabric.

00:00:20.000 Yeah, yeah, we got it from the city bus supplier.

00:00:23.000 Is it just like puke resistant or something?

00:00:26.000 It's everything resistant.

00:00:27.000 UV, dirt, stain.

00:00:28.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:00:29.000 But does it feel good?

00:00:30.000 All right.

00:00:31.000 Hi, everybody.

00:00:31.000 Hi, it's Matt Farrow.

00:00:33.000 I have an old 911. It's called a Safari build.

00:00:36.000 This guy named Lee Keen built it, and I showed it to Joe.

00:00:39.000 I brought it here.

00:00:39.000 There it is.

00:00:41.000 I see people on the video.

00:00:42.000 We're looking at the smoking tire on Instagram.

00:00:45.000 Thank you.

00:00:45.000 And that's my everyday car in LA. You drive that everywhere?

00:00:49.000 Yeah, it's got big fog lights and bash bars and it's got a lift on it.

00:00:53.000 It's a manual too, right?

00:00:53.000 Oh yeah, yeah.

00:00:54.000 In traffic.

00:00:55.000 Yeah, but I also have a little scooter.

00:00:58.000 So when I need to go fight traffic, I leave it on you.

00:01:01.000 You drive a scooter?

00:01:02.000 Yeah, a little Yamaha 125. Oh Jesus.

00:01:04.000 Bro, you wear a fanny pack.

00:01:05.000 I can ride a scooter.

00:01:07.000 I mean, for your own health and safety.

00:01:09.000 No, it's the best.

00:01:10.000 Really?

00:01:10.000 It's the best.

00:01:10.000 I mean, look, riding motorcycles is dangerous.

00:01:12.000 We all know that.

00:01:13.000 But I think it's a calculated risk.

00:01:15.000 Yeah.

00:01:15.000 You know?

00:01:16.000 And, like, the other day, my wife and I left the house at the same time.

00:01:19.000 We live in Venice.

00:01:20.000 And she left in a car, and I left on the scooter.

00:01:23.000 And, like, exactly, like, 40 minutes later, I got off the bike and texted her that I was at my destination in Koreatown, and she was at her destination in Culver City.

00:01:33.000 Wow.

00:01:33.000 So I was literally, like...

00:01:35.000 Double, triple the distance that she had gone.

00:01:37.000 But anyway, the city bus fabric is amazing.

00:01:40.000 And I fully anticipated that 90% of the people would like it and 10% of the people would find it deeply offensive.

00:01:47.000 I'm surprised that you fell into the offensive scene.

00:01:49.000 It's disgusting.

00:01:50.000 It's cool, man.

00:01:51.000 It's gross.

00:01:52.000 I mean, yes, it's gross.

00:01:53.000 I mean, it's fun.

00:01:54.000 It's fun that you did that.

00:01:56.000 I mean, I'm not offended.

00:01:57.000 It is fun.

00:01:59.000 Here in LA, a car is kind of like your outfit a little bit.

00:02:04.000 A little bit.

00:02:06.000 If I'm going to put a message out there of myself in a car, I don't want to be some douchey shitbag in a Porsche.

00:02:15.000 I want to be the guy who's in a pink Porsche with big tires on it and a bus interior.

00:02:22.000 That, to me, it says a little more about me than it does about Porsche is a weird car, right?

00:02:28.000 Ferrari is 100% douchebag.

00:02:30.000 They take themselves very seriously.

00:02:32.000 It's really hard to not be a douchebag in a Ferrari.

00:02:34.000 Although I did see a really interesting one that this guy built in England where he took a Dino and he put a 400 plus horsepower modern Ferrari engine in it and put like a clear glass over the engine bay and everything you could take off and bring the car back to stock.

00:02:54.000 It was almost the sort of singerization of a Dino.

00:02:59.000 So the Dino is one of the prettiest Ferraris ever, right?

00:03:02.000 Beautiful car.

00:03:02.000 But if you've ever driven one, they sound great, but they're just slow as dog shit.

00:03:05.000 I mean, they're the V6s.

00:03:06.000 It's the smallest engine Ferrari ever made.

00:03:09.000 Do you know the website for the guy that did it, or the YouTube channel?

00:03:13.000 I think his name was David Lee, and he built it.

00:03:17.000 He claimed it was an F40 engine, which I don't think was entirely accurate.

00:03:23.000 I think he exaggerated a little bit.

00:03:26.000 I think it's an engine from a 360 that has been modified in certain ways.

00:03:31.000 Because an F40 has more than 400 horsepower.

00:03:33.000 Well, it also had turbos.

00:03:36.000 You just wouldn't use an F40 engine for that.

00:03:39.000 It would be like using...

00:03:43.000 Something that's very valuable and not really replaceable for purposes of modification doesn't make much sense.

00:03:50.000 When other options are available that could deliver you the same result.

00:03:53.000 Like a 360. What did a 360 have when it came with the Modena?

00:03:56.000 Like 400 horsepower.

00:03:57.000 Yeah, like around 400. And the Dino's got to be like, what is that?

00:04:00.000 2,500 pounds?

00:04:03.000 Maybe.

00:04:04.000 Maybe.

00:04:04.000 They're tiny.

00:04:05.000 They're tiny, and they're made of nothing.

00:04:06.000 I mean, $2,500 is maybe a good number.

00:04:09.000 They're little.

00:04:10.000 It looks so wild.

00:04:10.000 Yeah, and I've heard that car.

00:04:12.000 That car lives here.

00:04:13.000 Really?

00:04:13.000 Yeah, that car lives in Los Angeles.

00:04:14.000 No way!

00:04:15.000 The black one? 1.00

00:04:15.000 Yeah, yeah, it lives here. 1.00

00:04:16.000 I've seen it at car shows.

00:04:17.000 That's gotta be a half a million dollar car, right?

00:04:20.000 It's weird, because you actually have to...

00:04:23.000 Yes, it probably is...

00:04:25.000 A half a million dollars would be a very low estimate for...

00:04:27.000 It's like $700,000.

00:04:29.000 Maybe.

00:04:29.000 A really good original Dino.

00:04:31.000 There it is.

00:04:32.000 So it's actually...

00:04:33.000 That's not the car because the car has a hard top or is it a Targa?

00:04:36.000 It's a Targa.

00:04:37.000 Oh, look how pretty it is.

00:04:38.000 It's better with the roof off, isn't it?

00:04:39.000 Look at that picture with the back end of it right there.

00:04:41.000 Yeah.

00:04:41.000 Bam.

00:04:41.000 Click on that.

00:04:42.000 So what's so interesting about the car is...

00:04:44.000 It's almost like a Corvette.

00:04:45.000 It's actually hard to tell it apart from a regular Dino if you don't know what you're looking for.

00:04:50.000 The things to look for, obviously that badge on the left that says Evo something, and then the clear engine cover with the big bubble in the middle of the engine bonnet has changed.

00:05:00.000 Yeah.

00:05:00.000 By the way, that badge can go fuck itself.

00:05:02.000 The badge doesn't need to be there.

00:05:03.000 Get that off of there. 1.00

00:05:04.000 The exhaust is a little bigger.

00:05:06.000 I like the exhaust.

00:05:07.000 I like the exhaust.

00:05:07.000 That's fine.

00:05:08.000 I wish they had some grip to the tires.

00:05:09.000 Those are some skinny-ass, bitch-ass tires. 1.00

00:05:11.000 Well, look how narrow.

00:05:12.000 I mean, you're talking about a car that Without widening the body, there's only so much you can do.

00:05:18.000 I imagine a modern rubber compound.

00:05:20.000 What they did was they reproduced the Dino's, I think they're Campagnolo wheels, which were probably like 15s on the Dino, and I think they're 17s here.

00:05:29.000 So pretty.

00:05:30.000 You want to talk expensive.

00:05:32.000 Yeah, David Lee, the Monza 3.6 Evo Dino.

00:05:35.000 So 3.6, that's what tells me it's a 360 engine.

00:05:40.000 Yeah.

00:05:41.000 If it was a F40 engine, it'd be a 2.8 liter engine.

00:05:45.000 Oh, with turbos.

00:05:46.000 With turbos, yeah.

00:05:47.000 God, that's a pretty car.

00:05:48.000 Which, by the way, if it had an F40 engine, it'd be a fucking death trap.

00:05:51.000 Right?

00:05:52.000 You would sail that thing right off a cliff.

00:05:55.000 With 400 horsepower, it's got to be crazy fast.

00:05:57.000 Yeah, but you know what?

00:05:58.000 It's going to be linear, right?

00:05:59.000 Without the turbo spool, you have that natural build of power, and you really kind of can just use less throttle.

00:06:06.000 It won't just jump out at you.

00:06:07.000 Yeah.

00:06:08.000 But, I mean, you are a man of taste, Joe.

00:06:11.000 That's awesome.

00:06:11.000 It's a beautiful ride.

00:06:12.000 Look at that thing. 0.92

00:06:13.000 They're selling them.

00:06:14.000 Are they really?

00:06:15.000 Yeah, they're trying to build a run of them.

00:06:17.000 Oh, God.

00:06:17.000 I think they're...

00:06:18.000 Like Singer. 0.96

00:06:19.000 Yeah.

00:06:20.000 But here's the problem with doing this with Ferraris, though.

00:06:25.000 Ferrari people... 1.00

00:06:27.000 Even if you did something to the level of singer, Ferrari people aren't really like that.

00:06:33.000 Ferrari people are originality over everything. 1.00

00:06:37.000 That's so weird.

00:06:38.000 Yeah.

00:06:38.000 I don't understand those folks.

00:06:40.000 They don't like modifying the cars.

00:06:41.000 They don't like a car that's previously been modified.

00:06:44.000 It's all about that numbers matching shit.

00:06:47.000 I don't get it.

00:06:48.000 It's not for you.

00:06:48.000 No.

00:06:49.000 No, it's not really for me either.

00:06:50.000 I love driving the Ferraris, but I don't align with the Ferrari fan really values so much.

00:06:56.000 But I'd like to own one soon.

00:06:58.000 Maybe an 80s one.

00:06:59.000 What would you like?

00:06:59.000 Something a little silly.

00:07:00.000 Like a Testarossa?

00:07:01.000 Driven Testarossas are fun.

00:07:03.000 Yeah.

00:07:03.000 Dana White has a Testarossa.

00:07:05.000 The maintenance is crazy.

00:07:05.000 And he had it completely redone.

00:07:07.000 He's like, fuck you.

00:07:09.000 We put a new interior, a modern stereo, everything.

00:07:12.000 It's probably nice.

00:07:13.000 They need a lot of maintenance, though.

00:07:16.000 Testarossas have timing belts.

00:07:18.000 See, timing belts are something that Italians were doing for a long time, and they should just never be done again. 1.00

00:07:24.000 That sounds terrible.

00:07:25.000 They wear out, and they need to be changed.

00:07:27.000 And in the case of the Testarossa, you're talking about a giant flat 12 engine.

00:07:33.000 They're in the front.

00:07:34.000 So they're up against the firewall behind the seats.

00:07:38.000 So you have to take off the whole back of the car and take the whole engine out of the car to do these timing belts.

00:07:43.000 Oh, God.

00:07:44.000 Starting with the modern stuff, they use chains.

00:07:48.000 They brought that into the 21st century and they don't have to fucking fuck with belts anymore.

00:07:53.000 Jesus Christ.

00:07:54.000 But even like Lamborghini at the time, like I have a Countach, which is the best car ever made, and you don't have to do that bullshit because even Lamborghini used chains.

00:08:02.000 Wow.

00:08:02.000 So you don't need to do the engine out.

00:08:04.000 Why did Ferrari go with belts?

00:08:05.000 I think they thought it was smoother.

00:08:08.000 Enzo Ferrari also had utter contempt for the people who bought his streetcars, and I wouldn't be surprised if he did it just so the dealers would make more money on the services, even if he knew it was worse.

00:08:18.000 Why did he have so much contempt for the people who bought his cars?

00:08:20.000 Enzo Ferrari just wanted to go racing.

00:08:22.000 He was an egomaniac, and all he ever wanted to do was see his cars win races, and he came to a point where he couldn't make money doing that, and he had to sell streetcars to customers, but throughout his entire life, he openly treated those people with disdain.

00:08:39.000 That's the story of Lamborghini.

00:08:41.000 The story of Lamborghini is Ferruccio Lamborghini had a Ferrari in It was not working for one reason or another.

00:08:48.000 He went to Ferrari to complain about it.

00:08:50.000 Enzo basically told him to go fuck himself.

00:08:52.000 And so he said, I'll build a better car.

00:08:54.000 And that's the story of Lamborghini.

00:08:56.000 And what do they own by now?

00:08:58.000 Lamborghini is a Volkswagen Audi group.

00:09:01.000 Yeah, VAG. So they're more reliable now.

00:09:04.000 Yes, but so are Ferraris.

00:09:06.000 Around 2010-ish, when the 458 came out, Ferraris took a massive jump in reliability.

00:09:18.000 How'd they do that?

00:09:19.000 First off, the big one is the dual-clutch gearbox, which, you know, stick shifts were one thing, right?

00:09:25.000 And then these early single-clutch paddle-shift gearbox, they'd fry clutches like crazy.

00:09:30.000 People didn't really know how to use them right, and they'd ride the clutches out, and they would just go through clutches like crazy.

00:09:35.000 The dual-clutch cars have much more, like, fail-safe type stuff built into them, and they actually work properly.

00:09:43.000 But Ferrari used to have the gated shifter, which is one of the coolest things ever.

00:09:47.000 The best, yeah.

00:09:48.000 The clinkety-clink.

00:09:49.000 It's the best.

00:09:49.000 Sliding into gears.

00:09:51.000 There's nothing more rewarding than, like, banging a Ferrari off the reveler.

00:09:56.000 So why did they stop that?

00:09:59.000 People stopped...

00:10:00.000 The problem with Ferrari is that they're new.

00:10:04.000 The problem with all new exotic, the first owners of exotic cars, is they want that new technology that's from racing.

00:10:13.000 Also, it's improved the drivability.

00:10:15.000 If you want to buy a Ferrari or a Lamborghini and drive it around in the city and use it as a car, you could buy a Ferrari right now and it could just be your car.

00:10:26.000 God, though.

00:10:46.000 It's a little disappointing.

00:10:48.000 One thing I'm really happy that Porsche hasn't done that, but they have with the GT3 RS. GT3 RS, this last year and now the new ones.

00:10:57.000 What do you mean, only automatics?

00:10:58.000 All automatics.

00:10:59.000 Well, the RS though, the RS is, in Porsche speak, is the fastest version of what they can build.

00:11:06.000 They have the GT3 Touring with a stick.

00:11:08.000 That's the one you want.

00:11:08.000 You want the Touring.

00:11:10.000 Why do I want the Touring?

00:11:11.000 Because it's a fucking stick.

00:11:12.000 Because the 4-liter engine with a stat 6-speed gearbox is the best engine-transmission combination available in cars today, period.

00:11:20.000 Yeah, but the wide-body GT3 RS with the vented fenders and...

00:11:24.000 You can modify.

00:11:25.000 You can modify later.

00:11:27.000 You just complained about people who don't want to modify, and now you're complaining about modifying.

00:11:31.000 But all that extra effort, why don't they just fucking sell it to you with a stick shift?

00:11:35.000 I don't know, bro.

00:11:36.000 I don't know.

00:11:36.000 Talk to the Germans.

00:11:37.000 I can't fucking win.

00:11:39.000 Look, they make a GT3 with a stick.

00:11:41.000 They do.

00:11:42.000 They make the Cayman GT4 with a stick.

00:11:44.000 They make the Boxer Spider with a stick.

00:11:46.000 You can buy a 911. Any level of 911 with a stick.

00:11:48.000 Well, you can't buy the Turbo.

00:11:50.000 Not the Turbo.

00:11:51.000 They're the only ones you can count on, though.

00:11:52.000 It seems like it's all going away.

00:11:54.000 Even Corvette, the new Corvettes, double clutch.

00:11:56.000 They said the new GT500, they haven't ruled out the possibility of having a stick shift.

00:12:02.000 Well, so look, with the GT500, they just announced this thing.

00:12:06.000 It's like 750 horsepower.

00:12:08.000 I've driven a lot of really powerful manual transmission cars.

00:12:11.000 For me, once the car goes over about 500, I don't want to shift anymore.

00:12:17.000 Really?

00:12:18.000 I don't when I'm driving it on a racetrack as fast as it will go.

00:12:22.000 When I went to test the Corvette ZR1, the last front engine one, when it went just completely fucking bananas, right?

00:12:29.000 750 horsepower.

00:12:30.000 I went to Road Atlanta to drive it, and they had a manual and they had an automatic for me to drive.

00:12:34.000 And I drove the manual, and it was so fucking fast that I did not feel comfortable taking my hand off the wheel to do the shifts.

00:12:41.000 That makes sense.

00:12:42.000 And I was like, at this level of performance, I really need to have both my hands on the wheel.

00:12:47.000 And I'm a pretty decent driver.

00:12:48.000 I'm not, like, shit.

00:12:49.000 I'm not the best, but I'm not shit.

00:12:51.000 And then when I drove the automatic car, I went, okay, I feel way more comfortable at this pace with my hands on the wheel.

00:12:58.000 But this eight-speed automatic they have is the biggest hunk of flaming shit ever put into a sports car.

00:13:04.000 And so with the C8, with the new one, they got rid of the manual And decided to substantially improve the auto with a new dual-clutch 8-speed, which, you know, for you and for me, is sad that there's no stick.

00:13:21.000 It's sad.

00:13:21.000 But I kind of get it because it's just sort of what progress looks like.

00:13:25.000 I get it if you're going to take it to a racetrack.

00:13:27.000 I do get it.

00:13:28.000 But how many people are taking their goddamn Corvette to a racetrack? 0.60

00:13:31.000 You know, it's not even really about that.

00:13:32.000 It's sadder.

00:13:33.000 It's sadder than that.

00:13:34.000 It's really about how do we get the 0-60 time under three seconds.

00:13:40.000 Because when they had the Z06, which was 650 horsepower, and then they had the ZR1, which was 750 horsepower, they couldn't get it to 60 any faster.

00:13:49.000 Detroit is still so suck in fucking 0-60 that...

00:13:53.000 That is important for some reason.

00:13:55.000 And adding 100 horsepower didn't change the 0 to 60 because of the front engine rear drive.

00:14:00.000 You're just traction limited at that point.

00:14:02.000 Just burnouts.

00:14:03.000 So by putting the engine in the back, you change the weight distribution.

00:14:06.000 Now you've got a dual clutch 8-speed instead of a manual 7-speed.

00:14:12.000 Now you can get in that 2-second range to 60, which doesn't improve the experience, but it does improve the number on that magazine cover.

00:14:19.000 The number.

00:14:20.000 But everybody knows.

00:14:21.000 I mean, how do you not know?

00:14:24.000 It's a fucking fast car.

00:14:26.000 You know it's fast.

00:14:26.000 The GT500's a real bummer, though, because that's such a muscle car.

00:14:31.000 You know, it's the same gearbox.

00:14:32.000 It's the same version of the Tremec dual-clutch from the Corvette is in the Mustang.

00:14:37.000 It has a different number of gears, incidentally.

00:14:40.000 It's a seven-speed in the Mustang and an eight-speed in the Corvette, but it's the same family of brand-new Tremec dual-clutch gearboxes.

00:14:46.000 What has a wider contact with the tires?

00:14:49.000 I don't know what the Mustang's got.

00:14:53.000 It seems narrower, right?

00:14:55.000 If I had to guess, the Mustang had wider.

00:14:57.000 The C8 Corvette has 305 rears.

00:14:59.000 Really?

00:14:59.000 That's it?

00:15:00.000 Yeah.

00:15:01.000 With a mid-engine car, what is interesting about a mid-engine car is you find this a lot.

00:15:05.000 I bet if you went out and looked at a Ferrari, like a 458 or something, you'd be shocked at how narrow the tires are.

00:15:10.000 Really?

00:15:11.000 Yeah.

00:15:11.000 When you do a mid-engine car, you can give up a lot of that huge fat rear rubber because the weight distribution doesn't necessitate it.

00:15:20.000 Tire sizes are typically chosen by the weight distribution of the car.

00:15:24.000 So like your 911, your air-cooled car, your old one, right?

00:15:28.000 You've got big fat rears and you've got relatively skinny fronts.

00:15:31.000 That's because that engine is over the rears. 0.93

00:15:33.000 So in a mid-engined, like a, I just looked this up for an unrelated thing, in the 458, the front tires are only 245s on that and the rear tires are 305s.

00:15:43.000 So whereas a Corvette, your front tires are like 275, the old Corvette, front tires are 275, rears are like 335. That difference in weight distribution is how big of a difference you need in tires.

00:15:56.000 That makes sense.

00:15:58.000 Have you driven the GT500? No, I didn't get to do it yet, unfortunately.

00:16:02.000 It looks fun.

00:16:03.000 Someone posted a video.

00:16:04.000 It ran a 10.6 quarter mile out of the box.

00:16:06.000 It's crazy.

00:16:07.000 It's a very, very fast car.

00:16:08.000 I cannot believe some of the cars that people can just buy.

00:16:13.000 Well, speaking of which, that Porsche that you sent me the video.

00:16:16.000 Yeah, the Taycan. 0.90

00:16:17.000 I've got to say it right.

00:16:18.000 Taycan.

00:16:19.000 Taycan.

00:16:20.000 Yeah.

00:16:20.000 We're going to fuck that one up for years.

00:16:22.000 That thing looks preposterous.

00:16:24.000 Look, I know how preposterous my Tesla is.

00:16:27.000 I tell everybody when they say, oh, you have really fast cars.

00:16:29.000 I'm like, see that one right there?

00:16:31.000 The one that looks like a dad car?

00:16:32.000 That one blows all of them away.

00:16:34.000 And you can drive a complete piece of shit because it's silent, too, and no one notices you.

00:16:38.000 Oh, God, it's so quiet.

00:16:38.000 You just pass people.

00:16:39.000 You just whiz by them.

00:16:41.000 Nothing happens.

00:16:42.000 Yeah, a Tesla is the new BMW in terms of people who are driving like shitbags on the way to work.

00:16:48.000 Because when it's silent, people don't call the cops or sneer.

00:16:51.000 You're just kind of gone.

00:16:52.000 Dude, I was at a red light with some kid in a Model 3 and I was in my GT3 RS and he blew by me.

00:16:58.000 I wasn't even trying to race him because I know better because I have a Tesla, but it was the humiliation factor.

00:17:03.000 He passed me and then got in front of me and then got on the highway like it was nothing.

00:17:07.000 Shoo! 1.00

00:17:08.000 An EV, a fast EV, if you live in Los Angeles, is the correct tool for this job.

00:17:15.000 If you have a home, or in your case, a fucking sick warehouse to keep it charged.

00:17:20.000 Supercharger network's pretty good, but I wouldn't say you can use it exclusively.

00:17:25.000 You need some kind of home base to charge, or your office.

00:17:30.000 People that live in apartment complexes that have Teslas, I don't know how you do it.

00:17:33.000 Yeah, if you don't live in a building where you can get them to install one...

00:17:36.000 Or you work in a building where you have something there.

00:17:39.000 EVs are amazing, and they're super, super fun, and I totally get why people...

00:17:44.000 I get your EV evangelism transformation.

00:17:48.000 You, having gone from the analog school of manual gearboxes and fucking loud, to experience that level of silent performance, you must have felt like you're in a fucking spaceship.

00:18:02.000 It still seems like a spaceship when I drive that thing.

00:18:04.000 It's so quiet.

00:18:05.000 It makes me feel good, though.

00:18:07.000 Well, do you find that you get a little more relaxed, right?

00:18:10.000 Yeah, I like it when I take it to the airport, too, because I put it on auto.

00:18:13.000 I go doo-doo, and I get on the 405, and I just chill.

00:18:16.000 In traffic, it's nice.

00:18:17.000 Oh, it's the best.

00:18:18.000 It is.

00:18:19.000 I totally get it.

00:18:20.000 Be careful with that.

00:18:21.000 Oh, I have my hand on the wheel.

00:18:23.000 No, no.

00:18:23.000 Be careful with saying it drives itself.

00:18:25.000 It doesn't.

00:18:26.000 It doesn't drive itself.

00:18:27.000 What does it do?

00:18:28.000 Here the rabbit hole begins.

00:18:30.000 It has an advanced driver's aid system.

00:18:34.000 Okay, so it has follow, you know, follows the car in front of you, and it has a pretty good lane keep assist.

00:18:41.000 But now we go into the Joe Rogan rabbit hole of what does driving mean?

00:18:46.000 So driving involves decision-making, and driving involves a lot of mental processes that cars can't do.

00:18:55.000 And so that's when people talk about terms like self-driving cars or full self-driving or whatever— We're good to go.

00:19:22.000 But I think the marketing is a little bit disingenuous, and they really want people who don't know better to think and feel like this is a car that drives itself.

00:19:34.000 Well, they're kind of putting it on beta.

00:19:35.000 It's all just beta right now.

00:19:38.000 Bro, I'm riding my scooter.

00:19:40.000 I know!

00:19:41.000 I just had a Model 3 for a week, like a couple weeks ago, and I liked it so much, and I gave it back, and I went, God, maybe I should lease one of these.

00:19:48.000 This is cool.

00:19:49.000 But the auto steering feature, I used it for about 20 minutes, and it scared the piss out of me twice.

00:19:55.000 And I went, Have you seen that company called Axis that takes a Model S and they put a carbon body, wide body kit onto it?

00:20:05.000 No, that sounds like fun though.

00:20:06.000 It's pretty dope.

00:20:07.000 The Axis Model SP100D. They replace the entire body with carbon? 0.90

00:20:13.000 They take the fenders off, they put wide-body fenders on, they do a bunch of different shit to it.

00:20:20.000 Are you going to do this?

00:20:22.000 I don't think so.

00:20:22.000 I wouldn't fuck with that.

00:20:24.000 Yeah, they fuck with the suspension, they tighten up the suspension, they change the wheels, and they completely redo the interior.

00:20:30.000 They strip the interior out.

00:20:31.000 Well, that's where I would start.

00:20:32.000 Yeah, custom interior, put in whatever you want and need.

00:20:35.000 For, you know, Teslas are, they're such cool cars, and they're such, you know, they're such, like you said, serene.

00:20:44.000 You know what I mean?

00:20:45.000 And I don't want to give that credit exclusively to Tesla, because other EVs provide a similar experience, too.

00:20:51.000 But the one place they're lacking, for the amount of money they charge, their interiors are a little behind the times.

00:20:58.000 Yeah, ask me if I'm getting one of those trucks.

00:21:00.000 Bro, good luck.

00:21:02.000 Ask me if I'm getting one of those trucks.

00:21:03.000 You getting a truck, Joe?

00:21:04.000 Fuck yeah! 0.99

00:21:05.000 Why are you asking?

00:21:06.000 Of course I'm getting one of them trucks.

00:21:08.000 Yeah.

00:21:08.000 Look at that thing.

00:21:09.000 You don't like it?

00:21:10.000 No.

00:21:11.000 You don't like it?

00:21:11.000 No.

00:21:12.000 I don't like it and I... How dare you?

00:21:14.000 I'm not entirely sure it's real.

00:21:17.000 I mean, I think...

00:21:17.000 Interesting.

00:21:18.000 I think...

00:21:19.000 Look at that.

00:21:21.000 I mean look, my initial reaction to that was that's not a real thing.

00:21:26.000 And my second reaction is I'm pretty sure they couldn't build and sell that in America.

00:21:32.000 Why?

00:21:33.000 Because I just don't think that that will pass the test that it needs to pass.

00:21:42.000 And furthermore...

00:21:43.000 What kind of test?

00:21:44.000 Like crash tests, pedestrian safety, stuff like that.

00:21:47.000 Furthermore, it's because...

00:21:52.000 How do I say this without...

00:21:53.000 It's really hard to talk about Tesla because their fans are fucking crazy.

00:21:56.000 They get mad.

00:21:56.000 They get really mad and they don't leave me alone about it.

00:21:58.000 They get crazy.

00:21:59.000 They're coming at you already.

00:22:00.000 In the beginning, I thought that it's complete bullshit and fake and a fraud.

00:22:04.000 I've talked to a few people since in the design space who design cars professionally for a living.

00:22:11.000 And I have been convinced that it could be possible to build and sell a...

00:22:19.000 A vehicle shaped sort of like that.

00:22:22.000 Although not exactly like that.

00:22:25.000 Having said that, I think that the way that it has been marketed is not entirely...

00:22:36.000 How so?

00:22:38.000 Companies show concept cars all the time.

00:22:40.000 Right.

00:22:41.000 There's nothing wrong with showing a concept car.

00:22:43.000 There's nothing wrong with going, here's a prototype we built and this is going to show the direction of our industry.

00:22:50.000 Right.

00:22:50.000 And if you build electric cars as your business, it's pretty easy to build a concept car that runs and drives because you've got your skateboard and you can just put any body on it, right?

00:23:00.000 So odds are there's like a Model X chassis underneath that prototype truck, right?

00:23:07.000 One, I don't think that accepting reservations is an honest thing to do when you don't know how you're going to build the truck.

00:23:15.000 There's no way that truck's on the road next year.

00:23:18.000 No way.

00:23:18.000 One time it's supposed to be on the road next year.

00:23:20.000 He did?

00:23:20.000 He said 20?

00:23:21.000 He said next year.

00:23:21.000 2021. Did he say 2023?

00:23:23.000 No, no.

00:23:23.000 The full three-motor 500 range badass one is like a three-year down-the-line thing.

00:23:31.000 Here's the problem.

00:23:33.000 Building cars and warrantying them, repairing them, selling them is like a logistics business.

00:23:38.000 They're operating this company like a tech company where it runs on hype.

00:23:42.000 Like, where's the Roadster?

00:23:44.000 That's supposed to come out this year.

00:23:45.000 When is that coming out?

00:23:46.000 I don't fucking know.

00:23:47.000 I haven't seen anything about it since the prototype.

00:23:49.000 Give me a guess.

00:23:51.000 I don't know.

00:23:51.000 That's the point.

00:23:53.000 They've had these product launches and they build up the hype.

00:23:57.000 It juices the stock.

00:23:58.000 They take the reservations.

00:23:59.000 But then it's like, you have to deliver the product, guys.

00:24:03.000 You're actually a car company.

00:24:04.000 You're not exclusively driven on hype.

00:24:08.000 But they have made some cars.

00:24:09.000 Of course.

00:24:10.000 No, no.

00:24:10.000 Of course they made it.

00:24:10.000 There's one here.

00:24:11.000 Yeah.

00:24:12.000 No, I'm not saying they don't build and sell cars.

00:24:14.000 They build and sell cars.

00:24:15.000 But what I am saying is their business model is not...

00:24:20.000 Like the regular car companies in that it is so dependent on this hype machine bringing in new investors, bringing in new reservation cash.

00:24:31.000 When they go, here's this crazy total recall space truck.

00:24:36.000 And all it's going to cost you people to buy into my space truck vision is $100 refundable.

00:24:43.000 And you're not going to find out if that $100 gets you a truck for like two and a half years.

00:24:47.000 Are you going to go after your $100 if he's late?

00:24:51.000 But I'm not saying you shouldn't buy whatever he sells.

00:24:54.000 Isn't the Roadster thing a different deal though?

00:24:56.000 Don't you have to pay all the money or something?

00:24:58.000 There is a reservation process.

00:25:02.000 All I'm saying is...

00:25:03.000 I feel like the Roadster thing was different, though.

00:25:05.000 That requires a substantial sum of money.

00:25:07.000 Right, but we haven't seen any Roadsters either.

00:25:10.000 Not one, but we saw the prototype.

00:25:13.000 Yeah, but it's easy to build a prototype when you're Tesla.

00:25:15.000 Tesla can build a prototype very easily.

00:25:17.000 They've got an electric skateboard.

00:25:18.000 They can put any body on it.

00:25:20.000 It'll look and feel like a mostly run and driving car.

00:25:22.000 What's it say here?

00:25:23.000 $45,000.

00:25:24.000 $5,000 credit card payment plus $45,000 wire transfer due in 10 days.

00:25:30.000 So you've got to put up $50,000.

00:25:34.000 So you're giving him a zero interest loan of $50,000 until he delivers this product.

00:25:40.000 Which is like a good income for a lot of people for a year.

00:25:42.000 And you've got to give it up.

00:25:44.000 Correct.

00:25:45.000 And so I'm not saying that they don't build and sell real cars.

00:25:47.000 I'm not saying you shouldn't buy one or lease one.

00:25:50.000 I am saying, and this goes for, let's expand this.

00:25:54.000 This isn't a dig at Elon or Tesla specifically.

00:25:56.000 Let's talk about all cars.

00:25:58.000 Don't pay for something that isn't then handed to you.

00:26:03.000 Elon's a billionaire.

00:26:05.000 Why do you need to give him a zero-interest loan of $50,000 for a Roadster?

00:26:10.000 Why do you need to give him a zero-interest loan of $100 for a truck that he hasn't demonstrated he could build yet?

00:26:15.000 Why do you think they made the Roadster 50 grand?

00:26:18.000 And the down payment for the truck, only $100.

00:26:21.000 Because, I will tell you why.

00:26:24.000 I believe.

00:26:25.000 I believe.

00:26:25.000 I'm going to put this in I believe, okay?

00:26:27.000 Okay.

00:26:28.000 I believe it's so they could go to a bank or a VC, because if it's only $100, you get so many, what the fuck?

00:26:36.000 What the fuck?

00:26:37.000 500,000 orders.

00:26:38.000 You go, I've got 250,000 orders, I need a billion dollars.

00:26:42.000 That's why you would do that.

00:26:43.000 Yeah.

00:26:44.000 Look at Because look, the problem is, if it's legitimate, if it's all on the up and up, if everything is on the up and up, there's a lot of individual pieces that don't really add up.

00:26:55.000 And a house that's not made of...

00:26:58.000 It's like imagine the mortgage crisis in 08. You took all these bad mortgages and you put them together and all of a sudden it's considered a good investment, right?

00:27:05.000 So...

00:27:06.000 He smashed the fucking window on stage.

00:27:08.000 He quoted a bunch of power and torque figures that are basically made up.

00:27:13.000 He did that dumb video with tug-of-war the F-150 that was completely fake.

00:27:18.000 Why is it fake?

00:27:19.000 The F-150 was in two-wheel drive and he was towing it uphill.

00:27:23.000 That's not like...

00:27:25.000 Making it easier for the car to drive downhill than uphill?

00:27:30.000 No.

00:27:31.000 Towing uphill, the weight transfer is if you have a two-wheel drive pickup truck going downhill.

00:27:37.000 My friend Jason Fenske at Engineering Explained did a whole video debunking this.

00:27:42.000 But if you have an all-wheel drive, extremely heavy vehicle, because let's be honest, if they build that truck, that's a 6,500-pound vehicle.

00:27:50.000 Steel and batteries, all-wheel drive.

00:27:54.000 Versus a pickup truck that's put into two-wheel drive with no weight in the bed.

00:27:58.000 Right.

00:27:59.000 So all automakers make up silly games to show up their product, right?

00:28:06.000 They tow the space shuttle or whatever bullshit they do, right?

00:28:09.000 Yeah.

00:28:10.000 But they make up a game they know they can win.

00:28:12.000 They don't make up a game and then cheat at it.

00:28:16.000 Like, why are you going to do a tug-of-war video if you then have to cheat at the video on video to do it?

00:28:23.000 Like, pick a different game you know you can win.

00:28:25.000 Like, what kind of a person makes up a game and then cheats at it?

00:28:29.000 Like, that's just...

00:28:30.000 Well, you hear Ford wanted to get one of their own.

00:28:32.000 They're like, well, why don't you give us one of your Teslas?

00:28:34.000 Yeah.

00:28:34.000 And then somebody up at the top said, don't engage that idiot.

00:28:37.000 What are you doing?

00:28:38.000 I'm not doing this.

00:28:39.000 Yeah.

00:28:40.000 So look, again, well, they probably can't, realistically, it can't really compete with it.

00:28:45.000 Yeah.

00:28:46.000 I think a tug-of-war test is not a test of anything.

00:28:50.000 It's a test of weight and tire grip.

00:28:52.000 That's it.

00:28:53.000 But when you're a truck guy, you've got to realize...

00:28:55.000 It's a thing they do.

00:28:56.000 A truck guy is like, we're going to win!

00:28:59.000 Bro, let's bring that cyber truck over to a gravel pit and dump two tons of gravel in the bed. 0.99

00:29:06.000 Did you see any of the renderings of people camping in the Cybertruck?

00:29:11.000 It looks absurd.

00:29:12.000 Well, yeah.

00:29:15.000 Dude, you want to buy one?

00:29:18.000 Wait till he says, this is the one you can buy.

00:29:21.000 I haven't put an order in.

00:29:23.000 But I would.

00:29:25.000 $200.

00:29:26.000 Congratulations, you just bought into the scam.

00:29:30.000 You know what I mean?

00:29:32.000 I don't think it's like a full-on fraud.

00:29:35.000 I just think he's figured out creative ways to get the public to bankroll shit that he already said was done.

00:29:43.000 Bro, a million robo-taxis by 2020. Where's the robo-taxis, bro?

00:29:48.000 Is that what he said?

00:29:49.000 Yeah, this Cybertruck thing came out of seemingly nowhere, but right kind of at the same time that they figured out that full self-driving is not right around the corner as they said it was.

00:30:00.000 There's a lot of backtracking going on in the full self-driving.

00:30:03.000 Level 5 is not coming anytime soon.

00:30:05.000 You're not going to be able to send your Tesla out To do errands for you without a driver in it anytime soon.

00:30:12.000 What was the parking?

00:30:14.000 Tesla promises one million robo-taxis.

00:30:16.000 Yeah!

00:30:17.000 That was from 2019, 419?

00:30:19.000 I mean, technically they have a year and a month left, but they have delivered zero robo-taxis.

00:30:25.000 That's a lot of robo-taxis.

00:30:26.000 Yeah, a million?

00:30:28.000 He did.

00:30:28.000 He said that shit, man.

00:30:29.000 Yeah.

00:30:30.000 The problem with Tesla is Elon says some shit that then is impossible, and then they have to figure out how to do it later, and sometimes it doesn't work.

00:30:37.000 Do you know who Kyle Dunning is?

00:30:39.000 No, who's that?

00:30:39.000 One of the funniest guys alive.

00:30:41.000 He's got the best Instagram on the planet, and he does face swaps.

00:30:44.000 Uh-huh.

00:30:45.000 Now that you know, you didn't know.

00:30:47.000 Is it the deep fake guy?

00:30:48.000 Now that you know, he does a lot.

00:30:49.000 Well, Dr. Fakenstein did a lot of his stuff.

00:30:51.000 Oh, that's the one.

00:30:51.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:30:52.000 The fakening, that's the one. 0.70

00:30:54.000 Look at his newest one.

00:30:55.000 Give me some volume on this.

00:30:56.000 Give me some volume on this, and go to full screen.

00:30:58.000 Yeah.

00:30:59.000 Oh my god.

00:31:01.000 How creepy.

00:31:02.000 Yeah.

00:31:05.000 Fuck!

00:31:06.000 Fucking shit.

00:31:08.000 Oh, great idea, Lon.

00:31:10.000 Do it again.

00:31:10.000 Same window, same ball.

00:31:12.000 This should go differently.

00:31:14.000 Nope.

00:31:15.000 Oh, fucking shit.

00:31:16.000 You fool.

00:31:17.000 Now I, Mark Zuckerberg, is officially cooler than you.

00:31:21.000 No, I'm cooler.

00:31:23.000 I make rockets.

00:31:24.000 That's cool.

00:31:25.000 Well, I connect the world through Facebook.

00:31:28.000 I'm cooler.

00:31:29.000 I'm double cooler.

00:31:30.000 Double.

00:31:31.000 I'm infinity cool.

00:31:33.000 I'm infinity plus one.

00:31:35.000 That's one more cooler.

00:31:37.000 You can't add anything to infinity, you fool.

00:31:40.000 Only a nerd who's uncool would know that.

00:31:43.000 Very uncool.

00:31:45.000 Well, how about this?

00:31:47.000 This is too close, dude.

00:31:48.000 This is too real.

00:31:49.000 I have all the data, and I found this invention you unveiled in high school.

00:31:54.000 So, so, it senses if you're getting a bono in class, and then deploys this over you, letting everyone know you don't have a bono.

00:32:03.000 So, it's pretty cool.

00:32:04.000 Pretty cool.

00:32:05.000 I know I could use this in Miss Tinsley's class.

00:32:08.000 She's got great boobs. 1.00

00:32:10.000 Great boobs, Miss Tinsley. 0.97

00:32:12.000 Great boobs.

00:32:15.000 Fucking weird.

00:32:16.000 That smashing of the glass was one of the greatest moments in automotive history.

00:32:19.000 So stupid.

00:32:20.000 I was laying in bed, and my wife was next to me asleep.

00:32:24.000 And out of nowhere...

00:32:26.000 Oh shit, he did it again!

00:32:31.000 Why did they think that they could do that?

00:32:34.000 I don't know.

00:32:35.000 I don't understand that.

00:32:36.000 I know that the idea was that when they hit the wall or hit the door with the hammer that it broke the glass or...

00:32:43.000 No, first he was going to hit the door with a sledgehammer.

00:32:46.000 They did that.

00:32:46.000 But except he was using an orange hammer, which is a dead blow hammer, not a sledgehammer.

00:32:51.000 So that's a little disingenuous.

00:32:52.000 Dead blow?

00:32:53.000 Yeah, it's designed to not dent things.

00:32:55.000 It's designed to hit things without denting them.

00:32:57.000 Yes.

00:32:59.000 Then, he said the windows were bulletproof.

00:33:03.000 Probably, because they're aluminum, but not a thick stainless steel panel.

00:33:05.000 Right.

00:33:06.000 Who wouldn't dent a stainless steel panel?

00:33:07.000 And then he goes, the windows are bulletproof or whatever, and throws a fucking steel ball right through it.

00:33:14.000 And then he puts up a video the next day that's like, oh, here was us testing it right before the reveal where it actually worked.

00:33:21.000 They did show that it worked before.

00:33:23.000 Why did it work before?

00:33:24.000 How do you know the video was made before and not after?

00:33:26.000 After they fixed it.

00:33:27.000 There's a shop vac on the floor and a towel over the door as if you had just cleaned up a bunch of broken glass.

00:33:32.000 That's true.

00:33:33.000 Yeah, go look at the video.

00:33:34.000 There's a shop vac on the floor with a hose laid out right underneath the door.

00:33:38.000 Look at that.

00:33:38.000 Shop vac!

00:33:40.000 Yeah, that's true.

00:33:41.000 And that towel's over a door kind of maybe if you had just smashed a bunch of glass out of it.

00:33:47.000 That's true.

00:33:50.000 Come on, man.

00:33:50.000 That is a dope-looking car.

00:33:52.000 I don't give a fuck what anybody thinks.

00:33:54.000 I don't care.

00:33:55.000 That's cool.

00:33:55.000 I'm glad you don't care what anybody thinks.

00:33:57.000 I'm all in.

00:33:57.000 If they make that, I will be...

00:33:59.000 And can I just bring up...

00:34:01.000 What?

00:34:02.000 Is the word cyber, like, cool now?

00:34:04.000 Yes.

00:34:05.000 Like, cyber was exclusively uncool for, like, the last 15 years.

00:34:09.000 It's cool again?

00:34:09.000 No, no, no.

00:34:09.000 Very cool.

00:34:10.000 Cool.

00:34:12.000 Very cool.

00:34:13.000 Only nerds, only a real nerd, wouldn't know that cyber is cool.

00:34:16.000 Cool plus one.

00:34:18.000 Fucking hell.

00:34:20.000 It's so silly.

00:34:21.000 Well, I'm sure you've seen that Resvani military bulletproof car that releases tacks, electrifies the door handle.

00:34:30.000 You know, I was at the fucking gas station.

00:34:31.000 I had a really bad experience with the Resvani. 1.00

00:34:33.000 I was at the gas station once, pumping gas, and this fucking Resvani pulls up.

00:34:37.000 I'm like, who is driving that fucking thing?

00:34:40.000 Was it Tyrese?

00:34:41.000 And Jamie Foxx jumps out.

00:34:42.000 He goes, what's up, Joe Rogan?

00:34:44.000 I was like, what's up, Jamie?

00:34:45.000 Oh my god!

00:34:47.000 Is he a spokesman?

00:34:49.000 He's gotta be a spokesman or something, right?

00:34:50.000 I think he's friends with the guy who owns it and the guy gave it to him or something.

00:34:54.000 That's hysterical.

00:34:55.000 I don't think he's a spokesman.

00:34:56.000 Jamie's busy.

00:34:58.000 He's busy winning Oscars and making Grammys.

00:35:00.000 He's got no time to be a spokesman for a tank.

00:35:02.000 That's hilarious.

00:35:03.000 I drove this company's other car.

00:35:05.000 They have a car called the Beast, the Resvani Beast.

00:35:08.000 Oh, let me see what that looks like.

00:35:09.000 I drove it.

00:35:10.000 It wasn't good.

00:35:12.000 Well, it's based on a Wrangler, right?

00:35:13.000 Well, the tank is.

00:35:15.000 The Beast is based on an Ariel Atom.

00:35:17.000 What?

00:35:17.000 Do you know what that is?

00:35:18.000 Yeah, the three-wheeled thing?

00:35:19.000 Or the four-wheel?

00:35:20.000 No, it's a four-wheel, yeah.

00:35:21.000 That looks so good, though.

00:35:22.000 That's not good.

00:35:23.000 No, so, Jamie, the red one with no roof in the middle.

00:35:26.000 That's the one I drove.

00:35:27.000 Oh, my God.

00:35:28.000 So that's the one I drove.

00:35:29.000 How's that not good?

00:35:31.000 It's not.

00:35:31.000 It looks good.

00:35:32.000 How's it possible?

00:35:32.000 So what they've done there is they took an Ariel Atom, which is a car that has no body on it, right?

00:35:38.000 It's like driving a fucking sled, basically.

00:35:40.000 And they're crazy.

00:35:42.000 They're batshit.

00:35:43.000 And they made body work that goes over it. 1.00

00:35:46.000 That's pretty much what they've done, okay?

00:35:48.000 But in order to make it...

00:35:50.000 Look kind of badass like a supercar.

00:35:52.000 They put these really wide wheels and tires on the car, which when you have an Ariel Atom that has no power steering and a very dialed in and even sort of twitchy steering rack, this thing had one of the sketchiest,

00:36:10.000 I mean, the sketchiest handling of top five sketchiest handling cars I've ever driven.

00:36:15.000 Look at the doors.

00:36:16.000 Yeah, it's a real interesting kind of door design.

00:36:18.000 I've never seen one that had those doors.

00:36:20.000 They slide forward?

00:36:21.000 That looks CGI-ish a little bit.

00:36:22.000 That seems super annoying.

00:36:23.000 It's like the reverse minivan door.

00:36:25.000 Go back to that black one. 1.00

00:36:26.000 Yeah, look at that.

00:36:27.000 Look, I admit it.

00:36:28.000 It does look pretty cool.

00:36:29.000 It's a badass looking thing, but it just didn't drive good.

00:36:35.000 And the guy got kind of mad at me when I made a video saying that it didn't drive good.

00:36:39.000 He got mad at you?

00:36:39.000 He got a little mad.

00:36:40.000 He was a little upset.

00:36:41.000 What did you expect?

00:36:41.000 You were going to only promote his thing for free?

00:36:44.000 I I think sometimes they expect that, yes.

00:36:46.000 That's really silly.

00:36:47.000 You gotta do a better job of making a thing.

00:36:49.000 I think now I do.

00:36:51.000 Send him to the Tycan review.

00:36:52.000 Yo.

00:36:53.000 Go, hey, look at this.

00:36:54.000 We should talk about the Tycan.

00:36:56.000 This is what happens when something's good.

00:36:56.000 Because we talked about it for two seconds and got away from it.

00:36:58.000 Dude, your video's insane.

00:36:59.000 It looks like you're about to fly off the road and into space.

00:37:02.000 It is.

00:37:03.000 Might be a problem.

00:37:04.000 So, it actually is, I think we're at a point, really, where cars are actually too fast to sell to regular people.

00:37:12.000 Well, I think that all the time, and I made that argument about the ZR1, because it's so sketchy to drive with the rear wheel drive.

00:37:17.000 I'm like, you're selling a 750 horsepower car to someone like me.

00:37:21.000 Yeah.

00:37:22.000 At least I know how to drive a little bit.

00:37:24.000 Dude, you are probably in the top 20% of people in terms of driving a billion in that car.

00:37:28.000 Yeah, I can drive a little.

00:37:29.000 But there's a lot of people that get those.

00:37:31.000 They don't know what happens when you stomp on the gas and go sideways.

00:37:34.000 Like that fucking poor guy and Kevin Hart.

00:37:37.000 You know, when I saw that, and I saw the fucking lines on the street, I'm like, this guy doesn't know how to drive one of those.

00:37:44.000 Yeah, that's a gnarly...

00:37:45.000 You can't let someone do that.

00:37:46.000 You've got a Hellcat engine, a rear-wheel drive car...

00:37:49.000 It was a Cuda, right?

00:37:50.000 Like a 70 Cuda?

00:37:51.000 Yes, a 70 Cuda.

00:37:52.000 Double the horsepower of stock.

00:37:54.000 I bought my 70 Cuda back.

00:37:55.000 I heard you did.

00:37:56.000 Congratulations.

00:37:57.000 Thank you very much.

00:37:57.000 You're going to make it handle?

00:37:58.000 Sending it to Roaster Shop.

00:37:59.000 Oh, yeah, perfect.

00:38:00.000 They'll do a good job.

00:38:00.000 Yeah.

00:38:01.000 But with Kevin's crash, he was not driving, right?

00:38:04.000 No, his friend was driving, and his friend stomped on the gas, and the car went fucking sideways, and he didn't know what to do.

00:38:11.000 Yeah.

00:38:12.000 You just can't do that with regular folks.

00:38:15.000 If you're going to have a car like that, you've got to say, hey man, have you ever driven a real muscle car before?

00:38:19.000 How about one with 750 fucking horsepower?

00:38:23.000 You can't do that, man.

00:38:24.000 You've got to understand what you're doing.

00:38:26.000 I think a Cuda is probably 500 or 600 pounds lighter than a Hellcat, too.

00:38:30.000 Probably.

00:38:30.000 I mean, really light and really gnarly.

00:38:33.000 With those custom builds like that, it's hard.

00:38:38.000 I think someone's suing the shop that built it, which is really unfortunate.

00:38:42.000 Yeah, it's like they're suing because of the waist belts, no roll cage, all that shit.

00:38:47.000 Yeah.

00:38:47.000 I hope they don't win, because if they do, it's a really bad scene for custom cars all over.

00:38:54.000 But even brand new cars.

00:38:55.000 I just had a McLaren 720, which is my favorite supercar on the market right now.

00:39:02.000 And this thing is 800 horsepower.

00:39:04.000 It's a demon of a car.

00:39:05.000 Have you driven one?

00:39:06.000 No, but I've seen them.

00:39:07.000 It's fucking crazy, dude.

00:39:08.000 I was at Auto Club Speedway, the NASCAR track, 180 miles an hour on the front straight.

00:39:13.000 What?

00:39:14.000 Yeah.

00:39:15.000 How much does it weigh?

00:39:17.000 3100 pounds.

00:39:19.000 800 horsepower!

00:39:21.000 Look, that's me.

00:39:21.000 That's me about to get black flagged for drifting in a track day.

00:39:25.000 Really?

00:39:25.000 Yeah.

00:39:26.000 They give you a black flag?

00:39:27.000 Yeah, they don't like when you're drifting in track days.

00:39:29.000 What if you said it was a mistake?

00:39:30.000 I didn't know how much horsepower it had.

00:39:32.000 I got black flagged on like the 10th slide.

00:39:34.000 If you do it once, you can be like, oh, I'm managing the throttle.

00:39:37.000 Trying to figure it out.

00:39:38.000 When the smoke is wafting across on the street.

00:39:44.000 But with that car, I mean, oh my god, it's so fucking good, Joe!

00:39:48.000 Joe, that car is, in my opinion, the pinnacle of gasoline-powered streetcar performance.

00:39:55.000 Really?

00:39:56.000 That's a strong statement from you.

00:39:58.000 I've never driven, because you know why?

00:39:59.000 It's not just that it's batshit fast.

00:40:01.000 Because a lot of their cars are batshit fast, too, although very few are this fast.

00:40:05.000 It has this magic suspension technology.

00:40:07.000 It doesn't have sway bars.

00:40:09.000 Do you know how sway bars work?

00:40:10.000 So you can put a stiffer sway bar in your car and it makes it roll less in corners.

00:40:15.000 So typically you have to trade off roll and compliance for stiffness and performance.

00:40:21.000 The 720 does not use sway bars.

00:40:24.000 Instead it uses an electronically actuated independent valve system that allows you to mimic the An infinite number of sway bar combinations in between, you know, full stiff and non-existent.

00:40:40.000 So when you put the car into comfort mode, I shit you not, it rides like a Rolls Royce.

00:40:46.000 Like a Rolls Royce.

00:40:47.000 Not even like a 5 Series BMW or your Tesla.

00:40:50.000 Like a Rolls Royce.

00:40:51.000 And then you crank it to track and you go full Dorifto and it's just bonsai time.

00:40:57.000 How much is one of those?

00:40:58.000 That one is a Spyder, so it's $450,000.

00:41:01.000 You can buy them used.

00:41:03.000 The problem with McLarens and buying them new is they depreciate like crazy.

00:41:07.000 So you can buy almost exactly the same car, like two years old, for like $250,000.

00:41:12.000 Really?

00:41:12.000 Yeah.

00:41:12.000 That much?

00:41:13.000 Yeah.

00:41:13.000 Oh my god.

00:41:14.000 Didn't Stylebender buy one of those?

00:41:16.000 He bought a McLaren, but did he buy that model?

00:41:18.000 Oh my god.

00:41:18.000 Do you know who Stylebender is?

00:41:19.000 No, who's that?

00:41:20.000 The name sounds familiar.

00:41:21.000 UFC middleweight champion.

00:41:22.000 Oh, cool.

00:41:22.000 Bad motherfucker.

00:41:26.000 I've tried to listen to so much of your fighting shows, I'm just not that into it.

00:41:30.000 I get it.

00:41:30.000 It's okay.

00:41:31.000 It's all right.

00:41:31.000 It's okay.

00:41:32.000 You're into a lot of shit that I'm sure.

00:41:33.000 Oh yeah, he's got a 720. There it is.

00:41:35.000 That's the car.

00:41:36.000 Yep, that's a 720. And if that's his garage, he's got a 675LT in the background as well.

00:41:40.000 I think that's where he bought it.

00:41:41.000 Oh, okay, cool.

00:41:42.000 Yeah, no, that's the right car for sure.

00:41:45.000 It's a spider, too, so the roof comes up and back.

00:41:48.000 11 seconds while you're driving.

00:41:50.000 Whoa.

00:41:50.000 11 seconds up and down.

00:41:51.000 How fast can you go?

00:41:52.000 I think it's up to 40 or something.

00:41:55.000 You can be going pretty good.

00:41:56.000 Yeah, I put it up just while driving around.

00:41:59.000 Really?

00:41:59.000 Yeah, and I drove through the rain, and I learned that if you go 74 miles an hour, you stay dry.

00:42:05.000 Keep it over 74 with the top down, you're staying dry.

00:42:07.000 So it just whistles past you.

00:42:08.000 Right over your head.

00:42:09.000 Wow.

00:42:10.000 But whenever you stop at a red light, and you're fine.

00:42:12.000 Oh, no, you're done.

00:42:13.000 It's got to happen on the highway.

00:42:14.000 But you make the sickest rooster tails.

00:42:16.000 This car makes the sickest rooster tails!

00:42:19.000 If you hammer down in the rain, because it spools up the water out the diffuser, and it gets hit with the exhaust, and it does like a Top Gun swirl.

00:42:29.000 No!

00:42:29.000 It's the fucking tits.

00:42:31.000 No!

00:42:31.000 Is there video of this anywhere?

00:42:33.000 I don't know if I got video of it.

00:42:35.000 How did you not get video of this?

00:42:36.000 The sickest thing you've ever seen.

00:42:37.000 I don't know.

00:42:38.000 I know.

00:42:38.000 Sometimes it's a missed opportunity.

00:42:40.000 God, that sounds so crazy.

00:42:42.000 It's so much money.

00:42:44.000 $450,000 is so much money for a car.

00:42:46.000 I know.

00:42:47.000 There's so many of these custom cars that people are making now.

00:42:50.000 Like seeing it with that $1.8 million air-cooled.

00:42:53.000 The DLS. Yeah.

00:42:55.000 You know about that thing?

00:42:56.000 Yes, yes.

00:42:57.000 The dynamic and lightweighting study.

00:42:59.000 Chris Harris was just on my show talking about it.

00:43:01.000 I have a real problem with you calling a car a study.

00:43:03.000 I didn't call it that!

00:43:04.000 Anybody.

00:43:05.000 Anybody doing that, like, settle the fuck down.

00:43:07.000 I'll tell you what, if Elon called that truck a study, I might be a little less angry about it.

00:43:11.000 It's a study.

00:43:12.000 It's so cool.

00:43:13.000 Super cool.

00:43:15.000 That's very good.

00:43:17.000 South Africa.

00:43:19.000 Yeah, that thing.

00:43:20.000 That's the DLS, yeah.

00:43:20.000 That is a $1.8 million car that's not nearly as fast as that McLaren.

00:43:25.000 No, but it's got one of the gnarliest engines that money could buy at any price.

00:43:31.000 Yeah, the sound.

00:43:32.000 That engine, specifically in that, is a four-liter co-developed by a guy named Hans Metzger, who developed the engine in your GT3 RS. He's a legend, the legendary Metzger engine, which people talk about at Porsche.

00:43:46.000 Yeah.

00:43:46.000 Co-developed by Metzger and Williams, the Formula One team.

00:43:51.000 Jamie, pull up the video of that so we can hear the sound.

00:43:53.000 I think it revs to like 10.5.

00:43:56.000 What?

00:43:56.000 Yeah.

00:43:57.000 It revs because this is the first ever air-cooled 911 engine that has a four-valve head.

00:44:04.000 9,000 RPM. Look at that.

00:44:08.000 I thought it revs to above nine, but it's bananas.

00:44:12.000 Oh, this is Chris Harris driving up the hill at Goodwood, I believe.

00:44:15.000 Look at the exhaust.

00:44:17.000 Carbon fiber.

00:44:18.000 Dude, this car is bananas.

00:44:21.000 It's so pretty.

00:44:22.000 I don't know who's driving it.

00:44:22.000 You'd have to be so rich to even consider this.

00:44:26.000 Well, you know how they ended up doing this.

00:44:27.000 They literally had a customer who came to them and said, you know, half a million for the normal car.

00:44:33.000 That's great and all.

00:44:35.000 But what if I give you a full-on blank check?

00:44:38.000 Full blank check.

00:44:39.000 This is what they end up with.

00:44:41.000 Give me some volume.

00:44:42.000 Yeah, turn this shit up.

00:44:48.000 Bro.

00:44:49.000 See, that's what you need in your life.

00:44:50.000 Listen to this.

00:44:51.000 Fly by.

00:44:54.000 It's great.

00:44:55.000 But let me be honest with you.

00:44:57.000 It's like a $400,000 engine.

00:44:59.000 It's not as cool as a Shark Works 911 GT3 RS. It's not.

00:45:05.000 Because the Shark Works is just as fast.

00:45:08.000 You can drive it anywhere.

00:45:09.000 You can park it anywhere.

00:45:10.000 It handles probably better.

00:45:13.000 Maybe.

00:45:13.000 I don't know.

00:45:14.000 Sounds just as good.

00:45:15.000 Bro, there's no rhyme or reason or math that leads you to buying something like this.

00:45:20.000 The air-cooled thing is a weird world is what I'm getting into.

00:45:23.000 That world's weird.

00:45:24.000 Like, if you had a 500-horsepower engine anywhere else that cost you 400 grand, people would kill you.

00:45:29.000 Yeah.

00:45:29.000 Air-cooled is like...

00:45:30.000 What are you talking about?

00:45:31.000 They beat you to death.

00:45:32.000 Did you just charge me $400,000 for a fucking engine?

00:45:35.000 I'll kill you.

00:45:36.000 Yeah.

00:45:37.000 Did we talk about this on the last show?

00:45:38.000 No, we talked about this in text.

00:45:40.000 Okay, the value.

00:45:42.000 Yeah, air-cooled horsepower is like the worst value in motoring.

00:45:47.000 So if you want, like, let's say you're starting with an engine that works.

00:45:53.000 You buy a regular car, like my Carrera is an 87. You're starting with an 87 Carrera, okay?

00:45:59.000 And you go in and you have an engine that works, and you go to a performance shop and you say, this engine makes about 200 horsepower as it is.

00:46:06.000 I want it to make 300 horsepower.

00:46:08.000 You have to give him your engine and probably $50,000 or $60,000.

00:46:14.000 If you want that engine to make 350 horsepower, you probably have to give him $100,000.

00:46:20.000 And if you want that engine to make 400 horsepower, you have to give him a quarter of a million dollars.

00:46:24.000 That's what it costs to get that type of...

00:46:27.000 So when you see cars like a Singer, where you go, okay, here's a Singer 911, and it's 600 grand, a quarter of a million dollars as that is the engine.

00:46:35.000 A Singer's got 50 grand in leather in it. 0.95

00:46:38.000 50 grand in raw leather materials.

00:46:40.000 Just the materials.

00:46:41.000 Just the materials.

00:46:41.000 God.

00:46:42.000 Yeah.

00:46:42.000 This shit adds up, like, real fast.

00:46:44.000 Well, the interiors of those things are special.

00:46:47.000 Crazy.

00:46:47.000 They're really special.

00:46:48.000 Really, really special.

00:46:49.000 But I mean, I guess that's what that Rob guy wanted to do, right?

00:46:53.000 Costs no object.

00:46:54.000 Yeah, he's really into bespoke everything.

00:46:57.000 Their whole thing, everything is important.

00:46:59.000 And there's a market for it, too.

00:47:00.000 I mean, John Ward with your Bronco over there is maybe a half a bump down from that.

00:47:05.000 Not quite as obsessed, but on that same level.

00:47:08.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:47:09.000 Those aren't cheap.

00:47:10.000 No, the Icon stuff is great, and they've got great taste.

00:47:13.000 I think it's weird.

00:47:13.000 He's got great style.

00:47:15.000 What I love about Jonathan Ward is his style.

00:47:18.000 Like what he's into.

00:47:19.000 I love that he makes those derelicts.

00:47:21.000 And the way the guy talks about it.

00:47:23.000 His taste is perfect.

00:47:24.000 Oh, he's got amazing taste.

00:47:25.000 His ideas and design taste.

00:47:28.000 But I just had a thought.

00:47:29.000 Earlier you were kind of lamenting how these modern supercars aren't analog and they don't do stick.

00:47:35.000 That right there is where companies like Singer and Icon come in.

00:47:39.000 They will deliver you that analog, not just an analog product, they'll deliver you the, like, in 1999, Porsche stopped making air-cooled engines.

00:47:49.000 They started making water-cooled engines.

00:47:51.000 But, like, Singer and some other people are like, well, what if you continued developing the air-cooled engine from where Porsche left off?

00:47:59.000 And so that is how you end up with...

00:48:02.000 Half a million dollars because people that have this kind of money are willing to pay for that analog experience but without any sacrifice at all.

00:48:13.000 Or the $1.8 million.

00:48:15.000 I think they made, I don't know how many, 20 or 30 of those.

00:48:18.000 20 or 30?

00:48:20.000 Bro, These fucking Saudis and these Chinese guys. 1.00

00:48:24.000 There's no either or.

00:48:25.000 There's no either or anymore.

00:48:27.000 You know what I mean?

00:48:27.000 With these million dollar plus cars, it's all the same 300 people.

00:48:31.000 Really?

00:48:32.000 Yes!

00:48:33.000 The average Bugatti owner has like 50 cars.

00:48:36.000 50!

00:48:37.000 Not fucking 5 or 10. Yeah!

00:48:39.000 It's the same 300 people.

00:48:41.000 Post Malone has one.

00:48:42.000 Just hoovering up shit.

00:48:44.000 So is Tracy Morgan.

00:48:45.000 I know.

00:48:45.000 Tracy Morgan crashed his on the first day.

00:48:47.000 First day.

00:48:48.000 Tracy Morgan...

00:48:51.000 I love seeing Tracy Morgan in a Bugatti.

00:48:54.000 That to me is just...

00:48:56.000 Fucking spend that Walmart money, you motherfucker!

00:48:59.000 Spend all of it.

00:49:00.000 How much did they give him from the crash?

00:49:02.000 I don't think anyone's ever said, but it was tens of millions of dollars, if not hundreds of millions of dollars.

00:49:07.000 It's a lot of money.

00:49:08.000 It's whatever his lifetime earning potential was as Tracy fucking Morgan.

00:49:13.000 That's barely.

00:49:14.000 That's a Bugatti Grand Sport Vitesse.

00:49:17.000 The roof comes off.

00:49:19.000 Look at that Not element, a CRV just crutched.

00:49:25.000 Just turned right into him.

00:49:27.000 Bro, that CRV's insurance is fucked!

00:49:32.000 But that's the kind of car that's going to hit you, a minivan that doesn't give a fuck about life.

00:49:36.000 I mean, that's, you know...

00:49:37.000 You know, they're like, oh...

00:49:38.000 You can worry about that kind of shit, or you can...

00:49:41.000 Yesterday, you know, I was in my off-road 911 here, and there was a double right turn lane, right?

00:49:47.000 And I was on the outside one, and someone was on the inside one, and they were on their phone, not fucking paying attention.

00:49:51.000 We both make the turn, and they don't stay on theirs.

00:49:54.000 They just drift into mine.

00:49:55.000 Of course.

00:49:55.000 So I go into the dirt shoulder and fucking hammer down sideways out the dirt shoulder and Pass them out of the dirt.

00:50:02.000 That's why you want an off-road 911. Yeah, I guess.

00:50:05.000 For those rare moments when you get driven off by an asshole in a minivan.

00:50:08.000 Oh, we took a left, but Taycan. 0.90

00:50:10.000 Taycan.

00:50:11.000 It's like 700 horsepower.

00:50:15.000 I think they're calling it 610 horsepower and 750 torque.

00:50:20.000 But just like the Tesla, the torque is instantaneous.

00:50:23.000 It's at zero.

00:50:24.000 It's at zero.

00:50:24.000 So you saw in the video I sent you the fucking launch?

00:50:27.000 Yeah.

00:50:28.000 It's...

00:50:28.000 We're really splitting hairs here with the Tesla and the Porsche.

00:50:32.000 Does 2.4 feel different from 2.5?

00:50:35.000 I don't know, but my eyes hurt.

00:50:37.000 Same shit, right?

00:50:38.000 The Porsche has this really interesting thermal management system.

00:50:44.000 Tesla, although they do a beautiful road car for the city, they've never gone racing.

00:50:48.000 They don't know about endurance racing or real high-performance driving.

00:50:53.000 You've seen them struggle with the Nürburgring a little bit.

00:50:55.000 It's a little harder than it looks over there.

00:50:57.000 What did happen with the Tesla?

00:51:00.000 I think they went over there with a prototype.

00:51:01.000 They took the interior out of it.

00:51:04.000 The Plaid prototype, right?

00:51:04.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:51:04.000 Which means it's a wide-body version with three engines, I believe.

00:51:08.000 Yeah, they weren't talking about what it was, but I think it's a three-motor car with a widened body and a different aero package and different tires.

00:51:17.000 Are there pictures of it?

00:51:17.000 There were some, and they went back with one with a giant GT3 wing on it, too.

00:51:21.000 That's hilarious.

00:51:22.000 It seemed like they...

00:51:25.000 The number they originally put out, and you guys talked about on the show, Jamie looked it up, was a compilation of best sector time.

00:51:36.000 So they released this sort of theoretical best time, but they never actually ran that complete lap.

00:51:41.000 The big difference between a Tesla and the Porsche right now is thermal management.

00:51:45.000 Managing heat and cool sort of where it needs to go.

00:51:48.000 Yeah, there it is.

00:51:48.000 Yeah, there's the prototype.

00:51:50.000 And I believe that Tesla can build...

00:51:52.000 They're exactly the kind of company that can build a one-off prototype.

00:51:56.000 They could go around the Nurburgring very fast.

00:51:57.000 Like, they're lean.

00:51:58.000 They could do that.

00:51:58.000 You could see how it's wider.

00:52:00.000 It looks cool.

00:52:01.000 It looks badass.

00:52:01.000 It does look pretty badass.

00:52:02.000 Yeah, it looks awesome.

00:52:03.000 But the...

00:52:03.000 Oh, we didn't put out the Apex.

00:52:05.000 Show me a photo of the Apex.

00:52:08.000 Apex Tesla.

00:52:09.000 So...

00:52:09.000 So the Taycan has this really interesting thermal management system that integrates the brakes, the battery, the motors, and the cabin heat, cabin climate control, all in one system.

00:52:21.000 And so it's very common that one system will need heat while the other needs to be cooled.

00:52:39.000 No, stay up there.

00:52:40.000 Go back.

00:52:41.000 That looks okay.

00:52:42.000 It's not that bad.

00:52:43.000 Oh, it doesn't let you change it?

00:52:44.000 It changes.

00:52:45.000 Oh, there it goes.

00:52:46.000 That's not bad.

00:52:47.000 It's okay.

00:52:47.000 I've seen worse.

00:52:48.000 Swap everything out with carbon fiber, but they put dope wheels on it.

00:52:51.000 But the interior is where the magic happens.

00:52:53.000 I would like to see the interior.

00:52:54.000 I don't really see a point to doing body kits on EVs.

00:52:58.000 Oh, there you go.

00:52:59.000 Quilted leather, a little armrest, some carbon.

00:53:02.000 I think the idea is that...

00:53:03.000 There you go.

00:53:03.000 Go back up.

00:53:04.000 See the left.

00:53:05.000 There with the body.

00:53:06.000 The wheels are nice.

00:53:07.000 Yeah, they put larger wheels, wider tires.

00:53:09.000 What are those brakes?

00:53:10.000 What does that say on it?

00:53:11.000 Does that say unplugged on the brakes?

00:53:13.000 Yes.

00:53:13.000 Oh, God.

00:53:13.000 I think that's their company.

00:53:15.000 Oh, it's called Unplugged Performance?

00:53:17.000 Yeah.

00:53:17.000 Apex.

00:53:18.000 Unplugged Apex S. I mean, it's not for me.

00:53:22.000 I think they put carbon fiber brakes on it.

00:53:25.000 Are those carbon ceramic brakes?

00:53:26.000 Yeah, I think carbon ceramic brakes.

00:53:28.000 Oh, wow.

00:53:28.000 They probably charge a lot of money for that.

00:53:30.000 I'm sure it's not cheap.

00:53:31.000 I don't know.

00:53:32.000 Maybe the interior, but I wouldn't.

00:53:33.000 Carbon ceramic brakes.

00:53:34.000 How about that?

00:53:35.000 Yeah.

00:53:36.000 Maybe they could do it.

00:53:37.000 19-piece carbon fiber body.

00:53:39.000 So your Tesla, for instance, if you want max performance, like the hardest launch you can do, You've got to have like 80% battery or more, and it'll only let you do a couple of them in a row before it starts to get noticeably slower.

00:53:51.000 You know what I mean?

00:53:52.000 It'll let you launch, but you want that 2.5 or whatever it is.

00:53:55.000 It's only going to be your first couple launches where you get it.

00:53:58.000 The Taycan will give you full performance until the battery's dead.

00:54:03.000 So I get a full bore launch control start with like 40 miles of range on the battery.

00:54:07.000 Now, how many miles can it get from fully charged?

00:54:11.000 In theory, 300. In theory.

00:54:14.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:54:14.000 But that's you driving like an old lady.

00:54:16.000 So, I was able to drive around normally, and I found that the range estimate was pretty accurate.

00:54:23.000 I only got the car for one day.

00:54:24.000 So, it was pretty accurate.

00:54:25.000 And then I went to the canyons, and in that video, I burned off 40% of the battery just making that video.

00:54:32.000 Really?

00:54:32.000 Yeah.

00:54:32.000 It would be the same in a Tesla.

00:54:35.000 When you start driving real fast in EVs, bro, you're just smoking through battery.

00:54:42.000 Do you think that with the demand, technology will improve to the point where they can get real range out of these things?

00:54:48.000 The theoretical range of the Tesla Roadster was like 600 miles, but again, that's never been done.

00:54:53.000 I think...

00:54:55.000 So I'm not an expert on EVs, and there's like electrical engineers that will be screaming fucking at their iPods right now.

00:55:02.000 Well, it's normal on this podcast.

00:55:04.000 I know, right?

00:55:05.000 I believe that the 300-mile range, that's a good amount of range.

00:55:10.000 The key that we will see that will really be a game-changer is battery charge times.

00:55:16.000 Can we get a charge in 5 minutes or 10 minutes and not 30 minutes or an hour?

00:55:20.000 Right.

00:55:21.000 And the number of stations, the opportunity to charge.

00:55:25.000 And that's an issue with the Porsche over the Tesla, is they don't have the supercharging network, right?

00:55:29.000 Correct.

00:55:30.000 Although they are using the Electrify America network, which is actually, it's another one of the networks that's meant for normal EVs.

00:55:37.000 It's actually bigger.

00:55:39.000 Really?

00:55:39.000 But they don't have as many super high-speed chargers.

00:55:43.000 So the Tesla and all EVs on the market right now accept the Taycan.

00:55:47.000 All the rest are 400-volt systems.

00:55:51.000 And the Tesla's probably the best, most efficient use of 400-volt architecture.

00:55:56.000 800-volt architecture, if Porsche is to be believed, is more efficient.

00:56:02.000 It's a lighter setup.

00:56:05.000 It flows in and out faster than the 400-volt system.

00:56:09.000 There's a couple other advantages to it, but it can charge really, really fast through the correct chargers.

00:56:16.000 There just aren't that many of the super-fast ones around.

00:56:20.000 There's only three in LA right now.

00:56:22.000 One is in Burbank, the Best Buy in Burbank is the closest one to here.

00:56:25.000 And I charged one from almost dead to almost full in about 18 minutes.

00:56:30.000 Wow.

00:56:31.000 At that one, yeah.

00:56:32.000 But there just aren't very many.

00:56:33.000 So you can go, stop, grab a cup of coffee, get a bite to eat real quick.

00:56:36.000 Go to Best Buy.

00:56:37.000 Yeah, stroll around.

00:56:39.000 You come out, you got 80% of your juice.

00:56:41.000 Yeah, it was pretty good.

00:56:41.000 It went fast enough that I could watch it go six.

00:56:45.000 Seven.

00:56:46.000 Really?

00:56:47.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:56:48.000 It was pretty good.

00:56:49.000 That's not bad.

00:56:50.000 Yeah, if they get the number of stations right, I think the real problem with EV adoption, especially in places like LA, is the infrastructure, man.

00:56:57.000 I don't think this city generates enough electricity through its grid for all of us to be charging cars at home.

00:57:05.000 That's a good point, right?

00:57:05.000 Because if we got all the millions of cars that are now charging, it would radically change everything.

00:57:12.000 Unless everybody switches over to solar.

00:57:14.000 Yeah.

00:57:14.000 Even solar I don't think is efficient enough.

00:57:17.000 That's the other problem is now it's a homeowner's thing.

00:57:20.000 So like EVs are awesome.

00:57:22.000 Like if you like how an EV drives and you like the experience of owning one and it works for your life, like a thousand percent get an EV. But Is a 90% EV adoption rate in LA something that's really realistic?

00:57:36.000 Like, not anytime soon.

00:57:38.000 I just don't think so.

00:57:39.000 I'm building a building right now, and so I know I'm learning about how much power the city will give me in my building.

00:57:46.000 And I don't have enough.

00:57:47.000 I'm building a brand new building.

00:57:49.000 And the city won't give me enough power to put more than two level two charges in my building.

00:57:54.000 I was like, yo, let me get a bank of five.

00:57:56.000 My building would be an EV charging spot.

00:57:58.000 And they're like, no can do, bro.

00:58:00.000 No power.

00:58:01.000 Really?

00:58:02.000 Yeah.

00:58:02.000 And can you enhance the amount of power that you have?

00:58:05.000 Not really.

00:58:05.000 I mean, solar will reduce your bill, but it doesn't give you more amps in the building.

00:58:14.000 Unless you're completely off-grid.

00:58:16.000 Correct.

00:58:16.000 And then you'd have to have some sort of generator.

00:58:19.000 Now you're in the weeds.

00:58:21.000 Yeah, now you're doing the opposite.

00:58:22.000 You're burning fucking dinosaur fuel.

00:58:24.000 It's trying to keep your shit going.

00:58:25.000 And I don't, you know, with a new building, I'm no expert, but all the people who are experts are telling me that I should wait a year or two and see what my utilities are before I even attempt solar.

00:58:34.000 Because I might, you know, you put it in now, how do you know if you've saved any money?

00:58:37.000 Right, right.

00:58:38.000 I'm obligated by law to make my building solar ready, so I had to reinforce the roof.

00:58:43.000 Yeah, yeah, there's a bunch of shit when you're building a building that you gotta do to...

00:58:46.000 In 2019. Yeah.

00:58:48.000 My building is the only collector, sorry, Westside Collector Car Storage, my new business.

00:58:52.000 And it's open for reservations currently.

00:58:54.000 Yes, we'll be open in January.

00:58:55.000 We're a little bit behind, but construction's hard as it turns out.

00:58:59.000 It's the first time that we've ever put indoor quad stackers in Southern California.

00:59:06.000 We have four high vehicle stackers.

00:59:08.000 We have 18 of them.

00:59:08.000 What are you doing about earthquakes?

00:59:10.000 You got rubber everywhere?

00:59:11.000 2019 code, dude.

00:59:13.000 Yeah?

00:59:13.000 Dude, we have more concrete and rebar.

00:59:17.000 I mean, we're good for a 12-0 earthquake.

00:59:20.000 That's what we're rated at.

00:59:21.000 That's the 2020 standard.

00:59:22.000 I want a house like that.

00:59:25.000 Bro, I poured 110 cement trucks.

00:59:30.000 Wouldn't that be great if the world's on fire and just sitting there sipping tea?

00:59:33.000 Dude, well, speaking of that, so the dividing wall in between the car storage area and the members lounge, my office and my studio, is legally required to be a two-hour firewall.

00:59:45.000 So you can sit there and have a tea and watch a fire on the other side for two hours and then just walk out the front door.

00:59:51.000 Really?

00:59:52.000 Yeah.

00:59:52.000 That's a law for LA for 2019. Wow.

00:59:55.000 We had to have the fire code written for us.

00:59:57.000 It sucked.

00:59:58.000 That seems pretty cool, though, that they're doing that, that they're making these standards extremely high.

01:00:03.000 I believe that it's good to have high standards and that you end up with a higher quality product and you can then charge more for it, and that's sort of how it works.

01:00:15.000 That's a big leap for you to just jump in and build some crazy car storage building.

01:00:20.000 I've never done shit like that before.

01:00:22.000 Did you think about that?

01:00:22.000 The amount of money that must cost is fucking extraordinary.

01:00:26.000 I'll tell you off, Mike.

01:00:27.000 I can only guess.

01:00:29.000 You can probably guess.

01:00:30.000 But it's crazy and it's scary.

01:00:32.000 And it started small.

01:00:34.000 And then it was like, well, the model doesn't work small.

01:00:38.000 What about medium?

01:00:39.000 The model doesn't work medium either.

01:00:40.000 What about big?

01:00:41.000 Well, it only works big if you build the building.

01:00:44.000 The land is so expensive that you have to go vertical.

01:00:48.000 And you can't go vertical in an existing structure because it just doesn't meet earthquake codes.

01:00:52.000 So you have no choice but to build.

01:00:55.000 And then there's a law in LA that if you build for every thousand square feet of commercial real estate you have, you need to have two street accessible parking spaces.

01:01:04.000 So I had to dig a basement.

01:01:06.000 So I dug a 7,000 square foot basement.

01:01:08.000 So I have 30 underground parking spaces.

01:01:11.000 That counts.

01:01:12.000 So half the cost of the building was digging the basement.

01:01:15.000 Jesus Christ, dude.

01:01:16.000 And where is this?

01:01:17.000 It's in Playa Vista.

01:01:18.000 It's across the street from Google and Yahoo and the Clippers building.

01:01:21.000 Oh, all those dirty rich people.

01:01:23.000 Dirty, dirty rich people.

01:01:25.000 Dirty! 0.97

01:01:26.000 Filthy rich. 0.87

01:01:27.000 Yes.

01:01:27.000 Wow, that's cool.

01:01:28.000 You gotta come see it, man.

01:01:29.000 It's the coolest.

01:01:30.000 Where's Playa Vista?

01:01:31.000 What is that near?

01:01:32.000 It's right off the 405 in Jefferson.

01:01:35.000 On the way to the airport?

01:01:36.000 Between Marina Del Rey and LAX. Oh, okay.

01:01:38.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:01:39.000 Perfect for people who live out of town.

01:01:40.000 Hit me up, westsidecollectorcarstores.com.

01:01:42.000 That's the end of my plug.

01:01:43.000 I'm done plugging.

01:01:44.000 But I'm learning so much about concrete and steel and all this crazy shit.

01:01:51.000 Concrete's a weird, weird science, man.

01:01:54.000 Oh, I'd imagine.

01:01:55.000 It's crazy.

01:01:55.000 The pressure testing, and there's different mixtures, and they shake all the rebar to get it to settle.

01:02:00.000 It's fucking nuts.

01:02:01.000 Jesus.

01:02:01.000 Yeah, you gotta wait for the perfect day to do your poem.

01:02:04.000 How long have you been building this?

01:02:04.000 Four years.

01:02:05.000 Four years.

01:02:07.000 That's right.

01:02:08.000 When we first started talking about it, it was at least two years ago.

01:02:10.000 Yeah.

01:02:11.000 Wow!

01:02:12.000 We broke ground two years ago.

01:02:13.000 I broke ground in August of 17. Dude, you must be shitting your pants with all that money.

01:02:18.000 I'm so exhausted.

01:02:19.000 I don't know how to handle that.

01:02:20.000 I'm so exhausted.

01:02:21.000 I have friends that have built houses before, and I'm like, fuck, man.

01:02:24.000 We remodeled our kitchen once, and for eight months we were cooking on a hot plate in the living room, and I was like, this is ridiculous.

01:02:30.000 Yeah.

01:02:31.000 It's...

01:02:32.000 It's like a project car.

01:02:34.000 We're at the point where the car looks done.

01:02:36.000 It basically looks done, except there's just so much left to do.

01:02:41.000 And dealing with the city is so, so hard.

01:02:43.000 This is why I'm a little less optimistic about others in terms of the adoption rates of EVs and stuff like that, and solar and stuff like that, because working with the city for this stuff is so hard, and it's taken me so long to do one stupid fucking building that,

01:03:00.000 like...

01:03:01.000 We're looking at a whole city?

01:03:02.000 Like, I don't know how anything got built here.

01:03:04.000 It's crazy.

01:03:06.000 Do you think about moving?

01:03:08.000 Man, sunshine's free and weed's legal.

01:03:10.000 It's so nice.

01:03:12.000 Good point.

01:03:12.000 I know that's corny as fuck, but...

01:03:14.000 Makes me want to spark up a joint.

01:03:15.000 Let's do it.

01:03:16.000 It goes a long way.

01:03:16.000 Yo, what about that Kevin Smith shit?

01:03:19.000 Kevin Smith was up in here talking about his snoochy-boochies.

01:03:22.000 It's just weed.

01:03:23.000 I know it is.

01:03:23.000 Kevin Smith's a great guy.

01:03:24.000 I know it is, but I had the thought when I was listening to your show, and it was like, you're telling me the fictional drug dealer from that movie I loved when I was 13 is now a real drug dealer, but legally and as that movie character.

01:03:39.000 That is some crazy ass shit.

01:03:41.000 Yeah, that's basically what's going on.

01:03:42.000 What is this?

01:03:43.000 Mike Tyson weed.

01:03:44.000 This is Mike Tyson weed?

01:03:45.000 Yeah.

01:03:45.000 How about that?

01:03:47.000 Do I go get a face tattoo afterwards?

01:03:48.000 Is that what happens?

01:03:49.000 You don't have to.

01:03:50.000 But if you smoke the whole thing, you probably want one.

01:03:52.000 Wow.

01:03:53.000 Does he sell this like this?

01:03:54.000 Yeah.

01:03:54.000 Just a full Godfather blunt?

01:03:56.000 Yeah.

01:03:57.000 Fucking hell.

01:03:58.000 Like a giant, fat blunt that looks like a fucking star. 0.91

01:04:00.000 That is crazy.

01:04:01.000 That is awesome.

01:04:03.000 Yeah.

01:04:03.000 All right.

01:04:03.000 It's pretty fucking good.

01:04:04.000 Dude.

01:04:05.000 What do we need to talk about with cars?

01:04:07.000 Is there anything else happening in the industry that you want to know about?

01:04:10.000 Well, I mean, the Taycan, I don't think we've completely covered it.

01:04:14.000 My question with all these cars is what is next, right?

01:04:19.000 It's like we're seeing these incredible 0 to 60 under 3 second times.

01:04:24.000 We're going to eventually see the range increase.

01:04:27.000 But if you had asked me 10 years ago, Are we going to see a 2.4 0-60 sedan that feels like it's violating physics when you stomp on the gas?

01:04:39.000 I mean, that's what I drive.

01:04:40.000 It has a laptop for a screen.

01:04:43.000 It's crazy.

01:04:43.000 We've gotten to about, I don't know, right...

01:04:46.000 Maybe 10 years ago or so, the trajectory of increased performance got very steep.

01:04:54.000 Yeah.

01:04:55.000 Where, you know, the new version of every car has 100 more horsepower.

01:04:59.000 It's crazy.

01:05:00.000 And now we've got these high-performance EVs, and with a high-performance EV, you know, you've built a dragster.

01:05:06.000 That's a fucking dragster.

01:05:07.000 I mean, the Taycan does a quarter mile in the low tens.

01:05:11.000 I mean, so you can, you know...

01:05:14.000 I don't want to be flippant Between Taycan and Tesla is the steering and handling,

01:05:35.000 because Teslas have very video game-y steering.

01:05:39.000 It's accurate, and it's sharp, but it's not.

01:05:41.000 You don't feel it.

01:05:42.000 No.

01:05:43.000 Taycan has the steering system from the Porsche 992, and so it feels like a Porsche.

01:05:48.000 And so when I drove it, I texted you, I go, Joe, this is for you.

01:05:52.000 Well, Tesla figured out how to make it go fast, and they figured out how to make it handle pretty good.

01:05:58.000 How to make it clean.

01:05:58.000 Cool.

01:05:59.000 They figured out how to make an EV cool.

01:06:01.000 Because EVs, remember the RAV4 EV? Fucking Ed Bagley was driving in the 90s.

01:06:05.000 What is this, Jamie?

01:06:07.000 One of the things that makes Porsche Taycan different is they have a two-speed transmission.

01:06:12.000 Your Tesla is one gear.

01:06:14.000 So your Tesla from 0 to 120 is bananas, but it pretty much dies off because it runs out of gear.

01:06:21.000 Because most people don't realize...

01:06:23.000 Yeah.

01:06:30.000 Yeah.

01:06:35.000 Yeah.

01:06:43.000 Like one pedal.

01:06:44.000 When you lift off the pedal, it breaks the car.

01:06:46.000 And so you can pretty much drive around one foot.

01:06:49.000 Taycan doesn't do that.

01:06:51.000 So Porsche believes that the kinetic energy built up by motion is better used by allowing the car to just coast as far as possible than by hitting the regen and capturing it in the form of braking the way that Tesla does.

01:07:08.000 Now you can turn that function off in the Tesla.

01:07:11.000 Does that have an impact on, if it's doing that, does it have an impact on the way it feels?

01:07:19.000 Well, it feels...

01:07:21.000 I mean, yes, because you have to use the brakes more in everyday situations.

01:07:25.000 Does it slow down the car quicker to use the brakes more?

01:07:27.000 I mean, to have regenerative?

01:07:30.000 No, it doesn't necessarily slow the car down faster.

01:07:33.000 So it doesn't make a slower 60 to 0 time?

01:07:36.000 No.

01:07:36.000 In fact, I believe that Porsche is ultimately better at that.

01:07:40.000 The only real difference is that when you lift off the gas in a Tesla, it slows down as if someone is applying the brakes.

01:07:49.000 In the Porsche, you're just pure coast.

01:07:52.000 It's a pure coast, and it's even more of a coast feeling than a gasoline car.

01:08:00.000 It's like you're freed of all restraint.

01:08:03.000 Wow.

01:08:04.000 Because after I'm fucking mobbed up the mountain making that video that I sent you...

01:08:08.000 I was like, oh shit, dude.

01:08:10.000 I've only got like 40 miles of range left.

01:08:12.000 I gotta get off this fucking hill.

01:08:13.000 Yeah.

01:08:14.000 And so I was at the high point in the hill and I go, let's coast.

01:08:17.000 And so I just coasted and I was like, let's see how far I can go without touching the brakes.

01:08:22.000 And I got this motherfucker coasting up to like 100 miles an hour, taking corners and not using the brakes because the handling and the grip were so good.

01:08:30.000 I coasted like 12 miles down the hill.

01:08:32.000 Dude, what about a deer?

01:08:33.000 What about a boing, boing, boing right in front of you?

01:08:36.000 Alertness.

01:08:37.000 Boom.

01:08:37.000 It's about that alertness.

01:08:38.000 Splatter! 0.99

01:08:41.000 Dude, I've seen some crazy shit while I'm filming, and I've never been able to not stop the car.

01:08:45.000 No, believe me.

01:08:46.000 I know you can drive.

01:08:47.000 I saw the guy pulling a log down the road, just free on a chain.

01:08:51.000 Oh my god.

01:08:51.000 There was a guy in a Ford Explorer driving in a windy canyon like this.

01:08:54.000 Did you make a video of this?

01:08:56.000 Yeah, I caught it on camera, and with a log the size of a car engine, just free on a chain.

01:09:02.000 Swinging.

01:09:03.000 Swinging.

01:09:04.000 Taking out signs.

01:09:05.000 Jesus Christ.

01:09:06.000 Craziness.

01:09:07.000 Sometimes.

01:09:08.000 I almost threw that video in the garbage, too.

01:09:09.000 It's amazing how little of that there really is.

01:09:11.000 Oh yeah, here it is.

01:09:12.000 Because people are so goddamn crazy.

01:09:13.000 I think it's right there.

01:09:14.000 Back it up.

01:09:15.000 20 seconds, Jamie.

01:09:15.000 20 more.

01:09:16.000 Yeah.

01:09:16.000 So come around this corner and look.

01:09:18.000 Log.

01:09:18.000 You guys got a log.

01:09:20.000 Just free dragging that shit. 0.53

01:09:21.000 That is so crazy that he thinks that's okay.

01:09:23.000 And if you back the video up like 30 more seconds, Jamie, you can actually see...

01:09:28.000 Not from the very beginning, a little forward, you can see the trail that the log has made on the road.

01:09:35.000 It made like a line of kind of dirt on the road, and it goes back and forth across the road, and you go, well, what the hell was that?

01:09:45.000 Dude, that's so crazy.

01:09:46.000 You know what's really crazy about that?

01:09:47.000 That could start a fire.

01:09:49.000 Oh, my God.

01:09:50.000 Couldn't it?

01:09:51.000 Probably, but it could also swing into an oncoming car.

01:09:54.000 That's like a 500 pound log.

01:09:55.000 Yeah, it definitely could swing into an oncoming car.

01:09:57.000 That guy definitely doesn't have control of it.

01:09:59.000 It's definitely a terrible, terrible idea.

01:10:01.000 But I managed to stop a supercharged Lamborghini doing that.

01:10:06.000 By the way, that's not my YouTube video.

01:10:08.000 Someone has stolen my YouTube video.

01:10:10.000 These motherfuckers. 1.00

01:10:11.000 Yeah.

01:10:13.000 Motherfuckers. 1.00

01:10:13.000 These motherfuckers. 1.00

01:10:14.000 Hit that fraud protection, Jamie.

01:10:17.000 That's incredible.

01:10:18.000 That's a crazy thing to see.

01:10:20.000 Yeah, there's knuckleheads out there, man.

01:10:23.000 There's a lot of them.

01:10:24.000 I go quick, but I go up there at times that I know almost, ALMOST for certain that the road is empty.

01:10:32.000 The roads that I use are not commuter roads, and I go there at times where it's highly unlikely to see people.

01:10:39.000 That's the same amount of time in the day where that guy drags logs.

01:10:44.000 That's the same spot.

01:10:45.000 Excellent point, sir.

01:10:46.000 Same spot on the dial.

01:10:47.000 Fuck.

01:10:48.000 Hey, when I drag my logs, no one's on that fucking mountain.

01:10:51.000 God damn it.

01:10:51.000 What are you doing up there?

01:10:52.000 Speeding?

01:10:53.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:10:54.000 That's one point.

01:10:55.000 He gets his logs, man.

01:10:56.000 Point taken.

01:10:57.000 It's too heavy to pick up.

01:10:57.000 I've seen other weird shit.

01:10:58.000 I've seen people doing push-ups in the street.

01:11:00.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.

01:11:02.000 I've seen people on horseback in the street.

01:11:05.000 Dude, some guy just died who was a world-class climber.

01:11:08.000 Did you hear that?

01:11:09.000 What happened?

01:11:10.000 He fell a thousand feet, man.

01:11:13.000 Not Alex Honnold.

01:11:15.000 Did you interview him?

01:11:16.000 I've had him on twice.

01:11:17.000 He's fascinating.

01:11:18.000 That movie is crazy.

01:11:21.000 Dude, he's on another level.

01:11:23.000 He's like a zen master.

01:11:24.000 Yeah.

01:11:25.000 Because he has that smoke show of a girlfriend.

01:11:28.000 He pretty much tells, you just do your thing.

01:11:30.000 I'm going to be on this wall.

01:11:32.000 Dude, he freaks me out.

01:11:35.000 I mean, it freaks me out to the point where, like, talking about him, my hands start sweating.

01:11:39.000 I get super nervous.

01:11:40.000 Oh, I got real sweaty watching that movie.

01:11:43.000 Dude, I get freaked out thinking about him.

01:11:44.000 What he does is, like, off the charts nuts, man.

01:11:47.000 He's a thousand feet in the air, and he's just no hand, I mean, no ropes, holding on with one hand.

01:11:53.000 Straight t-shirt.

01:11:55.000 Fuck, man.

01:11:56.000 I can't even watch it.

01:11:58.000 That thumb thing in that movie?

01:12:00.000 What's the name of the fucking movie?

01:12:02.000 Free solo, thank you.

01:12:03.000 When he goes, you have to put your thumb, and it's like on this postage stamp site.

01:12:07.000 Yep, and that's how he's staying alive.

01:12:09.000 Fuck this!

01:12:10.000 That's correct.

01:12:10.000 I don't have that.

01:12:11.000 And you gotta stay calm.

01:12:12.000 I don't have that thing.

01:12:14.000 I got none of that, dude.

01:12:16.000 I can't do that shit.

01:12:17.000 No, I'm not interested.

01:12:19.000 I'm amazed that he can, and I'm fascinated to watch him.

01:12:22.000 It's like, I just don't want him to never get hurt.

01:12:24.000 He's a really nice guy.

01:12:25.000 I mean, you feel like he just needs to be on that edge, right?

01:12:29.000 Some of those people just, they need that.

01:12:31.000 My hands are sweaty talking about this guy.

01:12:33.000 I know, me too, me too.

01:12:34.000 Fuck!

01:12:35.000 Or maybe that's Mike Tyson's weed.

01:12:39.000 It's Mike Tyson's weed.

01:12:41.000 It could be.

01:12:42.000 Yeah, you combine Mike Tyson's weed and that dude climbing.

01:12:45.000 Oh, look at that picture.

01:12:46.000 What about the guy taking that picture?

01:12:48.000 Put that down.

01:12:48.000 Does that guy get a credit?

01:12:49.000 Put that down, Jimmy.

01:12:50.000 I'm too high for that.

01:12:52.000 I'm too high to look at that.

01:12:53.000 Tell me how you like your Grand Seiko watches.

01:12:55.000 They're very nice.

01:12:56.000 The last time I came on the show, I talked to you about my Grand Seiko watch, and your show is so good for business that I got a handwritten letter from the CEO of Grand Seiko.

01:13:05.000 Wow.

01:13:06.000 That's very nice.

01:13:07.000 They make beautiful stuff.

01:13:08.000 They do.

01:13:09.000 I love mechanical shit.

01:13:12.000 I love things where someone's making it and there's gears and there's innovation.

01:13:16.000 I don't know what part of our monkey brain is so fascinated by innovation and craftsmanship and shit like that.

01:13:23.000 What's cool to me about watches is they're these crazy math machines.

01:13:27.000 I had a watch called an IWC Perpetual Calendar.

01:13:32.000 It was like a big fucking tank of a watch, and it would do time, the day, date, the month, the year, four digits, year, the moon phase, and it basically knew all the leap years.

01:13:51.000 It knew how many days, that's it, how many days there are in a month.

01:13:54.000 And if you kept this fucking thing wound, Either wearing it or on a winder, you didn't have to adjust it for 400 years.

01:14:03.000 Like, you don't have to adjust it until the year 2400. That's fucking crazy!

01:14:10.000 That's just springs and wheels, dude!

01:14:12.000 Isn't that nuts?

01:14:14.000 That really is nuts.

01:14:15.000 And when you put it that way, it's astonishing because it's an interesting combination of engineering and art.

01:14:22.000 Yeah.

01:14:23.000 Right?

01:14:23.000 Because it looks really pretty.

01:14:25.000 Yeah.

01:14:25.000 But it also, it's phenomenal engineering.

01:14:29.000 Like, who are the wizards behind that?

01:14:31.000 There's a new, there's a watch called a Vacheron Constantine that is, it looks like a clock.

01:14:37.000 It's like as big as this clock.

01:14:38.000 It has the most complications of any watch ever made.

01:14:41.000 It has 57 complications.

01:14:44.000 So one mainspring drives 57 different spring and gear sets That do 57 different things, and it will continue like that.

01:14:57.000 That's some funky, weird-ass art piece.

01:14:59.000 I don't know what that is.

01:15:00.000 I'm too high for that.

01:15:01.000 I don't know what that is.

01:15:01.000 That's some weird shit.

01:15:03.000 Dude, that's bonkers.

01:15:06.000 I know, but I know what you mean.

01:15:06.000 That someone's doing that.

01:15:08.000 That that's what they're doing.

01:15:09.000 And here's the really bonkers thing.

01:15:11.000 When you find out that they started making them in the 40s and...

01:15:15.000 Like, what?

01:15:16.000 Oh, you mean a guy who's worked on one watch for like a decade?

01:15:19.000 No, but like, if you think about like automatic watches, like Rolex or something like that, when did they start making those?

01:15:26.000 Well, mechanical watches they've been making since like the 1700s.

01:15:29.000 If you want to talk about strictly like the automatic winding rotor...

01:15:34.000 Just, Jamie, it's Vacheron Constantine 57 complication.

01:15:38.000 When was the first automatic winding watch?

01:15:41.000 It was like in the early, like probably World War II time.

01:15:45.000 That's fucking crazy.

01:15:46.000 Yeah, yeah, the winding rotor.

01:15:48.000 Maybe a little early, maybe like the 20s it might have actually been.

01:15:50.000 Did you have to wind it?

01:15:51.000 So what you're looking at, that's one side.

01:15:54.000 There's shit on both sides of that thing.

01:15:57.000 What?

01:15:58.000 What?

01:15:58.000 Isn't that crazy?

01:15:59.000 What is all that nonsense?

01:16:00.000 It's so much shit.

01:16:01.000 I don't even know.

01:16:02.000 I honestly don't even know.

01:16:03.000 I can't read that.

01:16:04.000 I don't know.

01:16:04.000 And there's a list.

01:16:05.000 There's a Wikipedia page for that watch that has the list of all the complications.

01:16:09.000 Shit, man.

01:16:09.000 But something like that, you're literally talking like it's probably six or seven million dollars to buy something like that.

01:16:18.000 Someone just paid $30 million for a watch.

01:16:21.000 What?

01:16:21.000 Yeah, I think it might have been the most expensive.

01:16:23.000 It was a paddock.

01:16:24.000 It's a weird thing, right?

01:16:26.000 Because it is the gentleman's jewelry.

01:16:29.000 Right, yeah.

01:16:30.000 It's the gentleman's jewelry, where it's literally 90% for other guys.

01:16:35.000 Yeah.

01:16:37.000 And it's a specific...

01:16:38.000 Look at that movement, though.

01:16:39.000 Specific subset of other guys.

01:16:41.000 Yeah.

01:16:41.000 And it's...

01:16:45.000 We don't really get to wear diamonds and shit around.

01:16:48.000 But we gotta have a trophy.

01:16:49.000 So it's okay.

01:16:51.000 Check this out.

01:16:52.000 You'll like this.

01:16:52.000 My friend Cameron Weiss made this.

01:16:54.000 This is a Weiss Watch Company watch.

01:16:57.000 Designed and manufactured exclusively in Los Angeles.

01:17:00.000 Every bit of that watch is made in Los Angeles.

01:17:02.000 Wow.

01:17:03.000 He got me that for when I first met him, and he makes them by hand, every one of them.

01:17:10.000 That's very pretty.

01:17:10.000 Super Mirka.

01:17:11.000 I like that shit.

01:17:13.000 Mirka!

01:17:13.000 Fuck you!

01:17:14.000 Oh my god.

01:17:15.000 Can I tell you that I just saw there is a Fast and the Furious musical parody that these dudes came up with, and they're doing it in this little theater here, the Dynasty Typewriter Theater, and it is...

01:17:29.000 Like, the Team America of Fast and the Furious.

01:17:34.000 And it's the fucking funniest thing I've ever seen.

01:17:36.000 I went twice.

01:17:37.000 Whoa.

01:17:38.000 And...

01:17:39.000 What's it called?

01:17:40.000 It's just called the Fast and the Furious musical parody.

01:17:42.000 But it's...

01:17:43.000 They have, like, women play a bunch... 1.00

01:17:45.000 Like, Tyrese and...

01:17:47.000 Ludacris are played by women. 0.77

01:17:49.000 It's fucking great.

01:17:52.000 It was written by these guys, Brad Silnutzer and Joey Orton.

01:17:56.000 They came to my podcast and this is one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

01:18:01.000 And I don't know, you got on me on a Team America tangent.

01:18:05.000 Dude, I went there.

01:18:06.000 What a great idea.

01:18:07.000 It's fucking hilarious, dude.

01:18:09.000 It's so great.

01:18:11.000 Anyway, are you still alive?

01:18:12.000 Your second show of the day.

01:18:14.000 Yeah, I'm fine.

01:18:16.000 The solution is either less drugs or more drugs.

01:18:19.000 Well, marijuana takes everything to that weird hard left.

01:18:22.000 So it's like no matter what you were doing during your day before you smoked weed, now you're doing this.

01:18:28.000 Once you smoke weed, you're like, whoa, what are we doing?

01:18:31.000 Should we talk about some conspiracy theories or something?

01:18:34.000 Epstein didn't kill himself.

01:18:36.000 I don't think he did.

01:18:37.000 Nope.

01:18:38.000 I think he might not have.

01:18:39.000 Maybe.

01:18:39.000 What are the odds that he did?

01:18:42.000 If you had a bet...

01:18:43.000 If I was in Vegas...

01:18:44.000 If I wanted to give you odds, like, hey...

01:18:46.000 The odds he did...

01:18:48.000 Come on, Matt.

01:18:49.000 100 bucks?

01:18:50.000 10%.

01:18:50.000 10% is where I've got it.

01:18:52.000 I don't want to say it's like zero, but I think it's like 10%.

01:18:55.000 I think it's low.

01:18:57.000 So would you plunk down 100 bucks on 10 to 1 odds that he did kill himself?

01:19:03.000 No.

01:19:04.000 The opposite.

01:19:05.000 I would do the opposite.

01:19:06.000 Yeah, probably.

01:19:07.000 You'd want more than 10 to 1 that he did kill himself.

01:19:10.000 No, no, no.

01:19:11.000 I think there's only a 10% chance he killed himself.

01:19:13.000 Right, okay.

01:19:14.000 I'm fucking with these numbers here.

01:19:15.000 I'm making it confusing.

01:19:16.000 I don't know how you're...

01:19:16.000 However you're converting it to odds, it's falling apart in my head.

01:19:19.000 I get it.

01:19:19.000 Sorry.

01:19:20.000 I get it.

01:19:22.000 It doesn't seem likely.

01:19:23.000 I'm going to go with no way, though.

01:19:24.000 It doesn't seem likely.

01:19:25.000 No.

01:19:26.000 That's just crazy that you could still do that.

01:19:29.000 Did you see the Ford electric car?

01:19:31.000 Epstein suicide guards say they're scapegoats for a broken system.

01:19:35.000 Well, that's a defense.

01:19:36.000 The defense is just we were incompetent, not we killed him.

01:19:41.000 Hmm.

01:19:42.000 Dude, who knows?

01:19:44.000 Can you imagine if there's some fucking weird shit going on in our country right now?

01:19:47.000 What's going on behind the scenes, man?

01:19:49.000 What's going on behind the scenes that somebody could sneak somebody in to kill somebody if that's what happened?

01:19:54.000 What's going on?

01:19:55.000 Oh, that's an inside person.

01:19:56.000 They don't want to sneak somebody in.

01:19:58.000 That person's already inside.

01:19:59.000 The cameras are off, bro!

01:20:00.000 That's crazy.

01:20:01.000 Fuck!

01:20:01.000 The cameras were off.

01:20:02.000 The cameras were off.

01:20:04.000 Whoops, sorry.

01:20:05.000 Yeah.

01:20:05.000 The cameras?

01:20:06.000 Come on.

01:20:07.000 Ooh.

01:20:08.000 Bro, I have cameras at my house.

01:20:09.000 They're never fucking off.

01:20:10.000 Come on.

01:20:11.000 When the cameras are off, too, I've heard, repeated a few times, but not more recently, that there was screaming being heard from his cell.

01:20:19.000 That someone heard screaming.

01:20:20.000 Yeah.

01:20:21.000 That's not being repeated now.

01:20:23.000 Dude.

01:20:25.000 Bro, we live in a fucking crazy world.

01:20:28.000 Yeah, that's dark.

01:20:30.000 I don't know.

01:20:33.000 That's probably the biggest public conspiracy theory that most people believe in.

01:20:40.000 Do you think most people believe it was a hit?

01:20:44.000 I would say most people.

01:20:46.000 I just read about one last night.

01:20:48.000 Is there a Pew poll on that one?

01:20:50.000 They tried to overthrow FDR in 1935, and this general was like the whistleblower for it, because the people that were supposedly trying to do it were trying to get him to be the face to talk people into doing it.

01:21:01.000 And so he went and talked to Congress about it.

01:21:03.000 His name's Smedley.

01:21:06.000 Smedley Butler, what a great name.

01:21:09.000 And they called him out and everyone said, oh no, that's just a lie.

01:21:13.000 It was a joke.

01:21:14.000 There might have been some stuff being talked about in this meeting, but we were never going to do anything.

01:21:18.000 And they said they had 500,000 soldiers that were going to march on D.C. to take over.

01:21:22.000 And they had some general they were going to put in place as a dictator.

01:21:25.000 There was a book written about it a couple years ago.

01:21:27.000 And this guy, Smedley Butler, wrote a book in 1935 called, like, War is a Racket.

01:21:31.000 War is a Racket, yeah.

01:21:33.000 Wow.

01:21:34.000 So he knew about all that?

01:21:35.000 Yeah.

01:21:36.000 Yeah.

01:21:36.000 I just read about this last night.

01:21:37.000 Jeez.

01:21:38.000 How do you know?

01:21:38.000 What was the source?

01:21:40.000 The book that's called...

01:21:42.000 I'll pull it up.

01:21:42.000 It's called...

01:21:43.000 Like, The Time...

01:21:45.000 The Conspiracy to Overthrow the Government.

01:21:47.000 It's all about him.

01:21:49.000 It's a really long book that just came out about overthrowing FDR. Wow.

01:21:53.000 Interesting.

01:21:54.000 I guess none of this shit is new.

01:21:56.000 I feel like I haven't been...

01:21:58.000 I just turned 38 and I feel like I didn't really start paying attention to anything until I was in my mid-20s or whatever.

01:22:06.000 Yeah.

01:22:07.000 Yeah, Bush was a piece of shit, and then it kind of seemed on the surface like Obama was kind of normal, and now obviously we live in crazy town, but I think I feel like it's new, and it's not new, and this kind of shit has just happened over and over and over again.

01:22:25.000 Well, it's the remnants of an ancient society.

01:22:28.000 I mean, we're dealing with this ancient system that was created long before we had anything resembling our way of communicating that we have now.

01:22:36.000 It's all set up.

01:22:38.000 You know, when you have a government like ours...

01:22:42.000 It's set up in this way, it's like, is this the ideal way to do it, or is this just the way we've been doing it forever?

01:22:47.000 You know what I mean?

01:22:48.000 Yeah, I don't think our bureaucracy can move fast enough to keep up with the technology.

01:22:54.000 I think you're 100% right.

01:22:56.000 I don't think culture can keep...

01:22:58.000 I don't think culture can keep up.

01:23:00.000 I don't think I'm designed to handle the kind of communication that I feel like I have to handle.

01:23:07.000 In terms of like, I have an Instagram page with like 225,000 people and it's a lot less than you, but I think you do a better job of like detaching from it than I do.

01:23:17.000 Maybe you just keep yourself busier than I do.

01:23:20.000 Keeping busy is important.

01:23:21.000 It is.

01:23:22.000 But I just feel like I'm not designed to handle...

01:23:26.000 Interpersonal communication with that volume of people who just feel that they can say what the fuck ever.

01:23:32.000 And they're trying to push your buttons and fuck with you.

01:23:35.000 That's kind of frustrating.

01:23:36.000 We're all learning to communicate with each other like this.

01:23:39.000 And we're all learning to interact in real time with this new technology that no one saw coming.

01:23:48.000 This new ability to communicate that just didn't exist before.

01:23:52.000 It's weird for all of us.

01:23:54.000 It's weird for the dummies like me, and it's weird for the really smart people that create all this technology.

01:23:58.000 Because we're opening up this new realm of human communication.

01:24:03.000 I think by breaking it into tweets, it's got to be these short little thoughts and all that.

01:24:11.000 That's angry, man.

01:24:13.000 But just in terms of if you watch...

01:24:17.000 Like, look at our access to the news.

01:24:20.000 Like, our access to, like, these stories that are going on in Hong Kong.

01:24:24.000 You could, like, specifically focus on it and try to follow it.

01:24:27.000 And you could follow it pretty much all day long.

01:24:29.000 All these protests and stuff like that.

01:24:30.000 It's like, it doesn't matter.

01:24:33.000 If the networks are sanctioning it, people are paying attention to things like that.

01:24:37.000 When things like that happen, they become these worldwide things that everybody is following along with.

01:24:41.000 That was never the case before, man.

01:24:43.000 You had to wait for the news.

01:24:44.000 You had to wait for them to tell you what's going on in Germany.

01:24:47.000 That's true.

01:24:48.000 It's weird now.

01:24:50.000 So do you think that...

01:24:52.000 That we actually live in what is probably generally a much better place?

01:24:56.000 We just hear so much more bad shit that we think it's worse?

01:25:01.000 Well, I think we're just aware of way more information than we're supposed to be aware of.

01:25:06.000 Yeah, it's overloaded all the time.

01:25:08.000 And I think that's one of the reasons why so many people are anxious.

01:25:11.000 I think just our sheer numbers are wearing on, like, the way we feel.

01:25:16.000 I actually have developed, like, real anxiety just about fucking life, which I think it's directly related probably to, like, my internet consumption.

01:25:25.000 You know what I mean?

01:25:27.000 Oh, for sure.

01:25:28.000 I think accused, like, social media of doing that.

01:25:31.000 Of accentuating your interests.

01:25:34.000 You know, this is the reason why so many people get in fights on Facebook.

01:25:37.000 Oh, yeah.

01:25:37.000 Because it amplifies the angry.

01:25:39.000 The more you get upset at things, the more you interact.

01:25:43.000 So because of that, they send you things that make you upset.

01:25:47.000 But isn't it that that's what you gravitate towards?

01:25:49.000 So Ari Shaffir actually did a test.

01:25:51.000 Yeah, he did with puppies or something, right?

01:25:52.000 And he just got all puppies.

01:25:54.000 He just started searching puppies.

01:25:56.000 And guess what?

01:25:57.000 How long did it take for him to get all puppies?

01:25:59.000 It wasn't that long.

01:26:00.000 It was pretty quick.

01:26:01.000 So it's not that it's malicious on its own.

01:26:04.000 It's that we are cunts.

01:26:07.000 We're cunts.

01:26:08.000 That's what it is.

01:26:09.000 It's like a mushroom trip, right?

01:26:11.000 Where if you feel good, it spirals up.

01:26:13.000 And if you feel bad, it spirals down.

01:26:15.000 It's the same kind of thing.

01:26:17.000 But we can manage it.

01:26:19.000 I think we can manage it.

01:26:20.000 I think we just have to be nicer to each other.

01:26:22.000 I really do.

01:26:23.000 I think people can manage it.

01:26:25.000 It's so easy to be nice in person, but it's so hard to be nice to someone who opens with what a piece of shit you are.

01:26:35.000 It's a piss poor way of communicating.

01:26:37.000 It's terrible.

01:26:39.000 You can get great stuff from it, but it also opens up the door to great cuntiness.

01:26:45.000 The greatest content is because it's like free shots of people.

01:26:48.000 And it's just weird to do.

01:26:50.000 It's like weird to just someone you don't even know just insult.

01:26:53.000 Right?

01:26:53.000 But they can do that to you.

01:26:55.000 And they feel free to do that to you.

01:26:56.000 And they don't think of you as another person.

01:26:59.000 They think of you as some person who's in some public position.

01:27:01.000 So it's a free shot to just shit on you.

01:27:04.000 And they think you should have thicker skin.

01:27:06.000 They think this.

01:27:07.000 They don't realize that you get into a job like this because you're insecure.

01:27:11.000 For sure.

01:27:13.000 But it's also, listen...

01:27:15.000 Nobody saw this coming.

01:27:16.000 We should all be nice about this new level of communication that we all have.

01:27:21.000 You can see things on your phone that are coming to you from the air, and they're streaming in real time.

01:27:27.000 I can't imagine what it's like to be a child who can grow up with the amount of porn.

01:27:32.000 Oh my God.

01:27:33.000 I don't want to go into this kind of a tangent too far, but Jesus Christ, what is going on?

01:27:38.000 When I was a kid, you had to work for it, right?

01:27:41.000 Yeah.

01:27:42.000 There's always someone's stepdad who had a big collection.

01:27:45.000 I had to do floppies.

01:27:47.000 I mean, I was on the hard floppy disks.

01:27:51.000 Damn.

01:27:51.000 Yeah, that was the 90s kid.

01:27:54.000 90s.

01:27:54.000 But it was still a challenge.

01:27:55.000 Now, way too easy.

01:27:57.000 It's weird, right?

01:27:58.000 Yeah.

01:28:00.000 There's definitely a concern.

01:28:05.000 There's not just a concern that you have access to porn.

01:28:08.000 How about the fact that porn has completely shaped the way people do their pubic hair?

01:28:14.000 Porn won.

01:28:16.000 Do you think porn reflects society or society reflects porn?

01:28:20.000 I don't know, but if there was a culture contest to see how you trim your pubes, porn completely won out. 1.00

01:28:28.000 Definitely.

01:28:30.000 Right?

01:28:30.000 You can't be a girl and just be chaos anymore, right?

01:28:33.000 Can you do that?

01:28:34.000 Is that a move?

01:28:36.000 You can.

01:28:36.000 It's a specific fetish for that.

01:28:38.000 You have to use...

01:28:38.000 Oh, it's a specific...

01:28:39.000 Ari Shaffir is going to have to use different keywords to get to that. 0.99

01:28:42.000 No, they'll find Ari.

01:28:43.000 They'll find him.

01:28:44.000 What really weirds me out about porn is they've really transitioned to an all-step-siblings kind of...

01:28:52.000 I know.

01:28:52.000 When did that happen?

01:28:53.000 I don't know, but...

01:28:54.000 What happened?

01:28:54.000 Fucking...

01:28:54.000 This is gross.

01:28:55.000 Weird.

01:28:56.000 It's like, when did everything get dirty?

01:28:59.000 Is this the result of divorce culture?

01:29:01.000 It's something.

01:29:03.000 It's something.

01:29:04.000 All the kids of divorces have grown up to watch stepbrother porn and whatever.

01:29:09.000 Stepbrother and stepsister is giant right now.

01:29:12.000 That's fucking gross.

01:29:13.000 It's like 90% of titles, dude.

01:29:15.000 It's so weird.

01:29:16.000 You're supposed to be my sister.

01:29:18.000 I can't believe this.

01:29:20.000 Like, what the fuck are we watching?

01:29:22.000 What?

01:29:23.000 Oh, is there a more depressing job than writing that dialogue?

01:29:25.000 But why do people...

01:29:27.000 Here's a question.

01:29:28.000 Why do people want to be so naughty?

01:29:30.000 Like, what is it?

01:29:31.000 Because that's naughty.

01:29:32.000 Well, that's not new.

01:29:33.000 People wanting to be naughty, that's not new.

01:29:35.000 Not new.

01:29:36.000 No.

01:29:36.000 But why do they always want to push it?

01:29:40.000 People keep pushing it.

01:29:42.000 They want people gagging and choking. 0.96

01:29:44.000 That's that risk shit, dude.

01:29:47.000 The risk becomes the thing.

01:29:49.000 A friend of mine is in the music business and is a recovering super junkie and has a theory that a lot of the celebrities who have...

01:30:01.000 Died of autoerotic asphyxiation were former heroin users.

01:30:06.000 And once they get sober, the only way to get close is by jacking off with a fucking belt around your neck.

01:30:13.000 And that seems to be a common thread in that maybe those deaths weren't exactly suicides.

01:30:20.000 So there's maybe a conspiracy theory there.

01:30:23.000 Well, if you were going to kill somebody, that would be a good way to do it.

01:30:26.000 Well, I don't think they were murdered.

01:30:27.000 I think they were labeled as suicides.

01:30:29.000 They were talking about, like, Chris Cornell and Anthony Bourdain.

01:30:33.000 You know, it's a theory, I guess.

01:30:35.000 Well, I mean, I don't think that was the case of Bourdain.

01:30:39.000 The argument is that people who have had the high of heroin...

01:30:44.000 The only way they can get close to that without drugs is by doing that.

01:30:47.000 That's a crazy suggestion.

01:30:49.000 It is a crazy suggestion.

01:30:50.000 I don't think that's the case, but...

01:30:51.000 Maybe not.

01:30:52.000 I don't know.

01:30:54.000 I don't think that's the case.

01:30:55.000 Maybe Epstein was trying to jerk off.

01:30:57.000 I don't know.

01:30:58.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.

01:31:01.000 Jamie's like, oh, I'm letting it go.

01:31:03.000 I'm not even shoving it in.

01:31:05.000 Open up a hole in it.

01:31:06.000 Yeah.

01:31:07.000 I don't know how we got down the porn tangent.

01:31:09.000 It's probably my fault, but...

01:31:12.000 What else you got, buddy?

01:31:13.000 Ending your ride is a weird, weird idea, you know?

01:31:17.000 Deciding to end your ride.

01:31:19.000 Yeah, it's probably something where people feel like they don't have control over their life and they want to take it, maybe?

01:31:27.000 No, man.

01:31:27.000 I think some people just feel bad.

01:31:30.000 They're just sad all the time?

01:31:32.000 Mm-hmm.

01:31:32.000 And just wanted to stop?

01:31:33.000 It just makes sense that if some people are frail, in certain ways we just accept that.

01:31:40.000 But if they're frail in their happiness, we don't.

01:31:44.000 You know, like if someone's born with some sort of a disease, and this disease affects them, we feel bad for them.

01:31:51.000 Oh, shit.

01:31:52.000 But if we're born...

01:31:56.000 Like if you're born sad?

01:31:58.000 Yeah.

01:31:58.000 Does it make sense?

01:31:59.000 I mean, you could be born with like a shitty level of dopamine.

01:32:03.000 Like your brain's not producing enough serotonin.

01:32:06.000 Like something's...

01:32:06.000 The wiring is not totally on.

01:32:09.000 Yeah.

01:32:10.000 I've known my share of depressed and or bipolar and or borderline people.

01:32:15.000 It's scary and sad.

01:32:16.000 It is.

01:32:17.000 But we have a weird aversion.

01:32:20.000 It goes back to our like primate days.

01:32:23.000 You know, we want to like...

01:32:25.000 I want to get those people away from us.

01:32:27.000 I had a weird thing for a long time where I wanted to fix them.

01:32:30.000 I was a real fixer for a while, and it's not a healthy place to be in.

01:32:34.000 That's a bad spot, son.

01:32:36.000 Fix-em-up guy.

01:32:37.000 No.

01:32:39.000 There's a...

01:32:40.000 If you want to be fix-up guy, that comes from a whole list of your own fucking issues.

01:32:44.000 Don't do that.

01:32:45.000 No, no, no.

01:32:46.000 Yeah, don't do that.

01:32:46.000 No.

01:32:47.000 I got married to the most amazing woman ever.

01:32:49.000 I'm very lucky.

01:32:50.000 Hannah Rules. 0.90

01:32:51.000 I saw her in your social media.

01:32:52.000 It was my birthday the other day, like two nights ago.

01:32:55.000 She got me Benihana lessons.

01:32:57.000 At Benihana.

01:32:58.000 And then I went back later that day and I cooked at Benihana for like all my friends.

01:33:03.000 It was like life goals achieved.

01:33:04.000 So they let you cook there?

01:33:06.000 Yeah.

01:33:06.000 They teach you how to cook and then they let you cook?

01:33:08.000 Holy shit.

01:33:09.000 Onion volcano, the whole shit.

01:33:11.000 No.

01:33:12.000 Dude, it's a great gift.

01:33:13.000 It's on my Instagram.

01:33:14.000 It's a great gift.

01:33:16.000 How long are the lessons?

01:33:18.000 Like an hour and a half.

01:33:19.000 It's not hard.

01:33:19.000 Oh, so you must be a cook already.

01:33:21.000 I'm already a cook.

01:33:21.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:33:22.000 And not only am I a cook, I'm a huge hibachi enthusiast.

01:33:26.000 Oh, okay.

01:33:26.000 And so, yeah.

01:33:27.000 Oh, so you knew what the fuck to do.

01:33:28.000 Fucking onion volcano, bro!

01:33:29.000 So you've made one of them onion volcanoes before?

01:33:31.000 I practiced at my house because I was so excited.

01:33:33.000 Oh, that is hilarious.

01:33:36.000 You are hilarious.

01:33:38.000 Look at this girl behind me because I popped a huge flame and she thought I was going to light my face on fire. 1.00

01:33:43.000 And she was right.

01:33:44.000 I almost did.

01:33:44.000 Oh, that's hilarious.

01:33:46.000 Yeah.

01:33:46.000 Fucking onion volcanoes, dude.

01:33:48.000 That's a great boomerang right there.

01:33:49.000 I know.

01:33:49.000 That's one of the rare, truly great boomerangs.

01:33:52.000 I think one of the top comments on that post is, this is the only good boomerang in the history.

01:33:57.000 Look at this.

01:33:58.000 The lighter fails, so I almost light my face on fire when I get it to work.

01:34:01.000 Dude.

01:34:02.000 Yeah, no, look.

01:34:02.000 Woo!

01:34:03.000 Oh, son.

01:34:04.000 You almost lost some eyelashes.

01:34:06.000 I know.

01:34:06.000 Fuck that.

01:34:08.000 But, yo, it's a really good birthday present.

01:34:10.000 My wife rules. 1.00

01:34:12.000 She got me axe-throwing lessons one year.

01:34:14.000 She got me blacksmithing lessons one year.

01:34:17.000 She likes to get me fun lessons for things.

01:34:19.000 Who's the expert out there throwing axes?

01:34:21.000 Is there one dude?

01:34:22.000 Oh, fuck.

01:34:23.000 What's the guy's name?

01:34:24.000 Michael Jordan of Axe?

01:34:25.000 Yes!

01:34:25.000 No, there is.

01:34:26.000 Oh, shit.

01:34:27.000 Oh, they're going to kill me for...

01:34:28.000 He has a hilarious name in a DVD series and shit.

01:34:32.000 Oh, really?

01:34:32.000 Yeah.

01:34:32.000 I want to say it's like Lester Diamond, but that's the guy from Casino.

01:34:35.000 It's something like that.

01:34:37.000 If you Google Knife Throwing Lessons LA, you might come up with it.

01:34:40.000 That's hilarious.

01:34:41.000 Now they've opened Knife and Axe Throwing Bars now.

01:34:46.000 Really?

01:34:47.000 This was two years ago, but now you can like go, like it's like a bowling alley, but you throw axes.

01:34:52.000 Oh my god.

01:34:54.000 Ranked axe throwers in the world!

01:34:56.000 I don't want to be around a lot of dudes who want to throw axes.

01:34:59.000 You know?

01:35:00.000 You go to the axe throwing spot, that's like some Viking shit. 1.00

01:35:03.000 It's just darts, right?

01:35:04.000 With axes, yeah.

01:35:06.000 Yo, there's a hilarious video from yesterday of...

01:35:09.000 Pete Buttigieg on the campaign trail trying to do an axe throw, but like outdoor, and he straight overthrows the axe, misses the target entirely, and hits the dude's drum in the marching band.

01:35:22.000 Oh my god, he almost killed somebody.

01:35:24.000 Imagine if he brained somebody like a Stephen King book.

01:35:27.000 First presidential candidate to murder somebody with an axe on television.

01:35:32.000 Can you imagine if he hit the dude in the head with an axe and the dude just stiffened?

01:35:38.000 Yeah.

01:35:38.000 If Trump did it, his supporters would probably like him more.

01:35:41.000 He could really test that shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue Theory.

01:35:45.000 The video of the axe missing and hitting the guy's drum is crazy fucking funny.

01:35:49.000 I've been on this audiobook Native American kick.

01:35:52.000 I listened to two different ones, and the one I'm listening to now is...

01:35:59.000 Like history?

01:36:00.000 Son of the Morning Star.

01:36:03.000 And my friend Steve Rinella recommended it to me.

01:36:06.000 Holy shit, dude.

01:36:08.000 Just like I get nervous when I watch Alex Connell.

01:36:11.000 Oh, man, look.

01:36:12.000 Wait, here's the guy from Fox News.

01:36:14.000 It's not Pete Buttigieg.

01:36:15.000 It's not?

01:36:16.000 No.

01:36:16.000 Oh, I'm sorry.

01:36:16.000 I apologize.

01:36:17.000 Oh, my God.

01:36:17.000 It hit the guy.

01:36:18.000 I apologize, Mayor Pete.

01:36:19.000 Oh, shit.

01:36:20.000 Fox News goes Pete Esketh.

01:36:22.000 I apologize, Pete Buttigieg.

01:36:23.000 My bad.

01:36:24.000 A Fox News house threw a fucking axe and hit somebody.

01:36:29.000 Oh, my God.

01:36:30.000 Yo, go with the...

01:36:33.000 Oh my god.

01:36:34.000 Oh my god, he missed so bad.

01:36:37.000 First of all, why the fuck is there a band playing behind the spot where the guy throws an axe?

01:36:43.000 Whose idea was that?

01:36:45.000 Oh, dude, it's so crazy.

01:36:47.000 Watch, watch, look, it hits.

01:36:47.000 Here's the other angle.

01:36:48.000 Boom! 0.99

01:36:49.000 It goes in the drum.

01:36:50.000 Dude, it could've killed him.

01:36:51.000 It hit him.

01:36:51.000 It hit his arm.

01:36:52.000 Oh my god, it could've killed him.

01:36:54.000 Oh, damn.

01:36:56.000 I'm sorry, Pete Buttigieg.

01:36:57.000 That was Pete Heskett.

01:36:59.000 Oh, sorry.

01:37:00.000 It's a different Pete.

01:37:02.000 But that's fucking horrible.

01:37:04.000 You knew it was some famous Pete.

01:37:07.000 I'm sorry.

01:37:08.000 I watched on my phone this morning and just saw Pete.

01:37:10.000 So it's a Fox News guy.

01:37:10.000 Imagine if it was just a news guy who killed somebody accidentally with an axe.

01:37:15.000 And not a presidential candidate.

01:37:16.000 Oh, just a news guy.

01:37:18.000 Poor guy.

01:37:19.000 He just sucks at throwing an axe.

01:37:21.000 Bro.

01:37:21.000 Who set this up?

01:37:22.000 Who put a band behind the fucking target? 0.79

01:37:26.000 How trusting are you?

01:37:27.000 How many practice shots do you think he took?

01:37:29.000 None.

01:37:29.000 Zero.

01:37:30.000 That's probably the first time he took.

01:37:31.000 They're in New York, too.

01:37:32.000 Like, how many people get to throw an axe in downtown New York?

01:37:34.000 Fucking New York.

01:37:36.000 You kill a guy with an axe in New York.

01:37:38.000 You think the DP was like, uh, can you bring the band around?

01:37:40.000 They're not in the shot.

01:37:41.000 Let's get that band. 1.00

01:37:43.000 Fuck, man.

01:37:45.000 Jesus Christ.

01:37:47.000 That's fucking bad.

01:37:48.000 I'm sorry, Mayor Pete.

01:37:49.000 I thought it was you.

01:37:51.000 The reason why I brought this up is this book is horrific.

01:37:54.000 It's all these accounts of what happened between the settlers and the Native Americans.

01:38:00.000 Oh, no.

01:38:00.000 Oh, my God.

01:38:01.000 It wasn't good.

01:38:03.000 I listened to that podcast, The Dollop, which is like a history podcast.

01:38:09.000 The people that came to this country were so horrible to the people that were here. 1.00

01:38:14.000 It's so depressing.

01:38:16.000 Yes.

01:38:17.000 Yeah, for sure.

01:38:18.000 It was horrible with disease.

01:38:20.000 It was horrible with just the amount of people that just came across the land.

01:38:24.000 They killed all the buffalo.

01:38:26.000 They wiped literally every Native American tribe out of power and they put them on reservations. 0.82

01:38:32.000 And the reservation was Kansas, right?

01:38:34.000 It just kept getting smaller and smaller and smaller.

01:38:36.000 Dude, there's a lot to it.

01:38:37.000 There's a lot to it.

01:38:38.000 It's amazing.

01:38:40.000 The stories of the different tribes are just amazing.

01:38:43.000 Just the differences between the ones who lived in the east versus the Comanches who were mostly just traveling and living in teepees and following the buffalo. 0.85

01:38:53.000 The ones in the eastern were like We're permanently settled in kind of one place, right?

01:38:56.000 Yeah, a lot of them were into agriculture.

01:38:58.000 They were growing.

01:38:59.000 They didn't even really have use for horses.

01:39:01.000 They weren't into horses.

01:39:03.000 Didn't white people steal their farming techniques, too? 0.96

01:39:06.000 Probably, for sure.

01:39:07.000 White people stole everything. 1.00

01:39:09.000 I'm reading a book called, I think it's called History of the Greater United States.

01:39:12.000 I think that's...

01:39:14.000 Correct.

01:39:14.000 But it's about all of like the U.S. territories that are like outside of the continental United States and just like ways we fucked over native people and we, you know, they're part of America but they're not states so they don't have to, they don't get to vote, they don't get to do anything.

01:39:30.000 It's just like we've used these islands and countries and stuff strategically all over the world and it's a slog through it but it's kind of the kind of stuff you kind of got to read, right?

01:39:40.000 Well, you got to, you should probably know.

01:39:41.000 Yeah.

01:39:42.000 What are we doing?

01:39:43.000 We're doing what?

01:39:44.000 I feel like I went to very good schools.

01:39:48.000 I went to a good college and a good high school, and I did not learn a lot of really important things.

01:39:54.000 I learned a very winner-take-all version of history that I'm not pleased about.

01:39:59.000 I missed out on everything.

01:39:59.000 I wasn't paying attention to shit until I was like 28. Yeah, but now you pay attention to everything.

01:40:07.000 Yeah, but before then, I mean all throughout high school, the time that I did spend going to college was only so that no one would think I was a loser.

01:40:15.000 Was it that binary?

01:40:17.000 If you're not in college, you're a loser, and if you're in college, you're not a loser?

01:40:20.000 It was a huge insecurity with me because I knew I didn't want to do it, and I knew whatever that led to.

01:40:28.000 I'm not interested.

01:40:29.000 I don't have the discipline to sit in class and listen.

01:40:31.000 I was too spastic. 1.00

01:40:33.000 I wasn't interested in what they were teaching.

01:40:34.000 That's so crazy that you can't sit in class and listen, and yet you can do the double-header three-hour podcast.

01:40:40.000 That's not hard.

01:40:41.000 We're talking about cool shit.

01:40:42.000 You're a cool guy.

01:40:43.000 You're fun to talk to.

01:40:44.000 It's not hard.

01:40:45.000 It's the way the material is delivered, huh?

01:40:48.000 And the last one was, you know, what you'll see, but it's way more these two guys talking than me.

01:40:53.000 I mostly moderated and mostly wound up agreeing with the guy who made the Game Changers documentary.

01:41:00.000 Mostly with what he was saying in terms of science.

01:41:03.000 In terms of whether or not it's healthy to eat a 100% vegan diet.

01:41:08.000 According to everything he's showing me, it is.

01:41:10.000 It is?

01:41:11.000 Yeah, according to everything he was showing me.

01:41:13.000 And he had as much science as you could...

01:41:15.000 It's just a matter of doing it properly.

01:41:17.000 After listening to Kevin Smith on your show, I've considered trying to do a vegan month or a vegan week or something.

01:41:24.000 I haven't gone through with it yet, but I'm probably going to...

01:41:26.000 I think it's different for different people, too.

01:41:29.000 I really do.

01:41:30.000 I think some people have real issues with it.

01:41:32.000 Some people have gotten off the vegan diet, and they've quit.

01:41:36.000 I just feel like I should eat a little less meat.

01:41:39.000 Really?

01:41:39.000 Well, I mean, it's really, I think it's different for everybody, too, man.

01:41:43.000 I think some people can do it with no problems, and I think other people struggle more.

01:41:47.000 And I don't know why, I'm not a nutritionist, but I know that a lot of people that wind up trying it out eventually give up.

01:41:54.000 It's like 84% of people start.

01:41:56.000 I know a couple ex-vegans.

01:41:58.000 But I don't have a moral judgment for it or anything.

01:42:01.000 I just feel like maybe it's something worth trying because I eat a lot of meat.

01:42:04.000 Yeah.

01:42:04.000 And I'm trying to get...

01:42:05.000 I wrote a business plan for my new place, as you do when you have a new business.

01:42:10.000 And the first thing on the business plan is by my 40th birthday, I want to be the healthiest I've ever been.

01:42:16.000 Well, I don't think cutting meat out is the move.

01:42:19.000 See, this is what I think about all this.

01:42:21.000 I think you can definitely be healthy and be a vegan.

01:42:24.000 According to everything this guy was showing me, everything James Wilkes was showing me, I don't really want to be a vegan.

01:42:29.000 I like meat.

01:42:31.000 I have no moral qualms with it, and I like how it tastes.

01:42:34.000 I don't want to be vegan, but I thought maybe if I did it a little bit, I could at least try.

01:42:38.000 I don't think health-wise...

01:42:39.000 It makes a difference?

01:42:39.000 No, I think the real thing to do is omnivorous diets.

01:42:44.000 And I think this is one of the things that we proved today in this conversation between Chris Kresher and James Wilkes, is that the omnivorous diet is like a natural, healthy thing.

01:42:55.000 You can do a vegan diet, though.

01:42:57.000 You can do it right.

01:42:58.000 According to everything he was showing me today, and I believe this, too...

01:43:02.000 If you're just doing it correctly, if you monitor your nutrient levels, you take vitamin B12 supplement, which is something he advocates.

01:43:09.000 I was like, that makes sense to me.

01:43:11.000 But I don't believe that meat's bad for you.

01:43:13.000 I think that sedentary lifestyle, shitty foods, people have been eating meat since the beginning of time.

01:43:20.000 This is how we became people.

01:43:22.000 And literally one of the primary theories for why the human brain got so big so quick We started hunting.

01:43:30.000 We had more access to protein because we were cooking things with fire.

01:43:33.000 And we learned how to hunt better because our brains kept growing as we're just figuring out the throwing arm they think is a possible factor.

01:43:41.000 Like somehow or another, the ability to throw something at something and kill it made us much more productive as hunters.

01:43:46.000 We can kill from farther away.

01:43:48.000 That's key.

01:43:49.000 Bro, we're so weak.

01:43:51.000 Oh, compared to animals?

01:43:52.000 Yes.

01:43:53.000 An animal would fuck us up.

01:43:54.000 Any even small-ish animal would fuck us up so bad.

01:43:58.000 A deer will kick your fucking ass, man.

01:44:00.000 A deer just kicking at you?

01:44:02.000 Oh my god.

01:44:03.000 Yeah.

01:44:03.000 I get it.

01:44:04.000 We need some help.

01:44:06.000 We need some weapons.

01:44:07.000 I wonder what we were like, though.

01:44:09.000 I mean, imagine going back and seeing what a person was like when we started becoming people.

01:44:14.000 How fucking freaky would that be?

01:44:16.000 I feel like we'd be scared of everything.

01:44:18.000 Oh my god, yeah.

01:44:19.000 Just real scared.

01:44:21.000 But like, what would it be like to just hang out in a tribe of Neanderthals and see what they were like, a different kind of person.

01:44:29.000 Yeah, I wonder if it would be, I mean, like mentally freeing?

01:44:35.000 You know what I mean?

01:44:36.000 You're singularly focused on food and shelter and not, you know, I don't know if you have the, you know, you don't have a lot of like the fucking worries that we have, but it could be awful simple.

01:44:48.000 But at the same time, the constant fear of starving and freezing to death, that would be shit.

01:44:53.000 All of it's bad.

01:44:55.000 Yeah.

01:44:55.000 Everything's bad.

01:44:57.000 Don't worry, we're gonna get there, dude.

01:44:58.000 We're gonna end up in Waterworld pretty fucking soon.

01:45:02.000 What future movie from the last 30 years do you think our current reality is the closest to?

01:45:10.000 The Matrix.

01:45:11.000 Really?

01:45:11.000 The Matrix?

01:45:12.000 Because you were living in a simulation, you think?

01:45:15.000 It's gotten so weird that it doesn't matter whether or not we're living in a simulation.

01:45:20.000 Because life itself and reality itself is almost all augmented with some new factors.

01:45:29.000 Like whatever the technology is that we're using to communicate with all these people.

01:45:34.000 The algorithms.

01:45:36.000 You can't stop checking your Twitter.

01:45:38.000 I want to check.

01:45:39.000 Yeah.

01:45:39.000 Somebody say something cool.

01:45:41.000 What's new?

01:45:42.000 Who's got a fucking new video I can watch to distract me for 15 seconds?

01:45:45.000 I know.

01:45:46.000 Oh, Bert and Tom are in a dance-off.

01:45:47.000 Yeah.

01:45:48.000 Look at this.

01:45:48.000 And you're just constantly looking at the goddamn thing.

01:45:51.000 Yeah.

01:45:53.000 I am trying to...

01:45:54.000 I'm not doing well at it, but I gotta fucking get my phone out of my fucking hand.

01:45:58.000 You know what's a good guilt shamer is?

01:46:00.000 That little status thing that's like, oh, you've been on your phone for five hours and change.

01:46:04.000 You know what they're like?

01:46:05.000 Those are like the cigarette warnings.

01:46:07.000 To tell you you're gonna get cancer, you're like, somebody else's gonna get cancer.

01:46:10.000 Not me.

01:46:11.000 I'm not addicted to my phone.

01:46:13.000 I know.

01:46:13.000 I am.

01:46:14.000 I feel like I am.

01:46:15.000 And I justify it to myself sometimes by saying, well, I have a virtual job and I have to be doing this for work.

01:46:20.000 But I think that's not true a lot of the time.

01:46:23.000 I think it's not true a lot of the time.

01:46:24.000 I think it's good to definitely give yourself some distance and some time away from it.

01:46:28.000 But I also think it's fascinating because we don't know where this is going.

01:46:33.000 We don't know what this is going to be like.

01:46:38.000 It's dangerous that these companies have so much control over the information that you see and that your news feed and someone's news feed on the other side of the country or whatever could be just so much different.

01:46:52.000 You're literally looking at different facts.

01:46:55.000 It's fucking crazy.

01:46:56.000 It is crazy.

01:46:57.000 This is very crazy.

01:46:58.000 I don't even know how you reconcile that unless people voluntarily take responsibility?

01:47:06.000 Is it possible to...

01:47:09.000 Decide that Facebook and Twitter and whatever are like public utilities?

01:47:14.000 Well, that's what people have proposed, that we treat it like anything that, you know, that everybody kind of should have access to, and we protect it under the First Amendment.

01:47:25.000 That's the idea, I think.

01:47:27.000 What's the net neutrality status right now?

01:47:30.000 I know it was like getting fought back and forth.

01:47:33.000 Did it end up anywhere?

01:47:36.000 Do you remember when they used to have a terrorist color?

01:47:40.000 Yeah, orange.

01:47:41.000 Yeah, like code orange.

01:47:43.000 We'd be all walking around like, what?

01:47:45.000 Are we in code orange or yellow?

01:47:46.000 Did it get to yellow?

01:47:47.000 Yeah.

01:47:48.000 Somebody had a bit about that.

01:47:49.000 Was it you?

01:47:50.000 I'm sure I did.

01:47:52.000 I remember someone's bit about the code.

01:47:54.000 I don't think I ever put it on anything.

01:47:55.000 I think I just had it when we had one.

01:47:58.000 I think there was a few comics that had a bit on that, too.

01:48:00.000 That might have been part of the issue.

01:48:01.000 It was one of those things where everybody was recognizing how ridiculous it was.

01:48:05.000 We had codes.

01:48:07.000 We have the fire code now here.

01:48:09.000 How the fuck can you give me a code of terrorist attack or no terrorist attack?

01:48:15.000 What are you supposed to do about it, actually?

01:48:17.000 You're getting me closer to a possible terrorist attack?

01:48:20.000 Okay.

01:48:20.000 And you don't even have to tell me what's going on.

01:48:23.000 That's where it gets crazy.

01:48:24.000 When it goes from orange to red, what do I do exactly?

01:48:27.000 What do you do?

01:48:28.000 They don't even have to tell you what's going on.

01:48:29.000 You can come to Westside Collector Car Storage.

01:48:30.000 It's like a bunker.

01:48:31.000 Oh, it's like a bunker.

01:48:33.000 Designed to survive a 12. Yeah, that's a good place. 0.97

01:48:36.000 It's a good place to hide out in case it all goes down.

01:48:38.000 For sure.

01:48:39.000 I can see us bolting that store down and fucking fighting off zombies.

01:48:42.000 Yeah.

01:48:43.000 Do you ever watch those zombie shows?

01:48:45.000 I am familiar.

01:48:46.000 I had to stop.

01:48:47.000 Yeah.

01:48:48.000 Fuck you up.

01:48:49.000 This is just violent porn.

01:48:50.000 Right.

01:48:51.000 It was weird.

01:48:52.000 And then you start shopping for zombie apocalypse vehicles.

01:48:54.000 Is that how you ended up with that Land Cruiser out there?

01:48:56.000 Yeah.

01:48:56.000 Zombie apocalypse vehicles.

01:48:58.000 You start thinking, how would I fuck this zombie up?

01:49:00.000 What would I do if I was Rick?

01:49:02.000 You know what?

01:49:03.000 I live down by the beach, and so for me, I legit am like, what am I going to do when the tsunami comes?

01:49:09.000 Oh, that's a thought.

01:49:10.000 I'm just waiting for the tsunami.

01:49:11.000 Dude, get out of there. 1.00

01:49:12.000 What are you doing?

01:49:13.000 Don't you know better?

01:49:14.000 Get the fuck off the water, man.

01:49:16.000 Yeah, right?

01:49:16.000 Come on.

01:49:17.000 You're a nice guy.

01:49:17.000 I don't want to lose you.

01:49:19.000 I'm actually waiting for waves to just come straight through me.

01:49:22.000 Beachfront Pasadena, son.

01:49:25.000 Get that high rise.

01:49:26.000 Buy some land up yonder.

01:49:28.000 Oh, your shit's not front row.

01:49:29.000 Just wait.

01:49:30.000 Just wait.

01:49:31.000 What the fuck happens then if your address doesn't exist anymore?

01:49:35.000 Right.

01:49:36.000 We all know that they find these ancient civilizations underneath the ocean.

01:49:41.000 I mean, they don't find that They've never found Atlantis, but they've found some pretty cool shit out of the ocean.

01:49:48.000 Do you ever see those things they found, I think, in the Bahamas?

01:49:51.000 It's like these stones that look like a passageway, like cut stones.

01:49:58.000 Cut into the ground.

01:49:59.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:50:00.000 These gigantic stones.

01:50:01.000 It looks like some sort of an underground passageway or an underwater passageway.

01:50:05.000 I remember that.

01:50:06.000 I think at one point there were probably entrances made of wood or something that have rotted away.

01:50:13.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:50:14.000 Underground stones, yeah.

01:50:16.000 I don't know.

01:50:17.000 Did they identify that those...

01:50:19.000 Did they think those were man-made?

01:50:21.000 Did they think that they're man-made?

01:50:22.000 Or are there scientists that think that that's a natural thing?

01:50:25.000 There's a portion of that that is absolutely man-made, I think.

01:50:28.000 It's called Bimini Road, right?

01:50:29.000 Bimini Road.

01:50:30.000 So is that for sure man-made?

01:50:33.000 I could swear portions of it are.

01:50:35.000 That's cool as fuck though.

01:50:37.000 This, I don't know, this is reminding me of something I just heard recently that I did never, it's never come up on here from what I remember, that there's like a Stonehenge type structure on the bottom of Lake Michigan that people found recently.

01:50:47.000 Really?

01:50:48.000 What?

01:50:48.000 That's awesome.

01:50:49.000 The fuck?

01:50:51.000 What the fuck?

01:50:52.000 Joe's conspiracy radar just went off the fucking charts.

01:50:55.000 These are the kind of ones I like, too.

01:50:57.000 I don't like conspiracies about Epstein.

01:50:58.000 The Lake Michigan Stone.

01:51:00.000 Look at that!

01:51:00.000 These people are still alive.

01:51:01.000 That's pretty.

01:51:02.000 There's a lot of weird pictures I've seen of this trying to look up.

01:51:04.000 They think that there's a mastodon carved.

01:51:06.000 I don't think that's the actual one.

01:51:07.000 I think someone added to this.

01:51:09.000 That looks like it was done in spray paint in 2018. It doesn't look like a fucking cave drug.

01:51:14.000 Oh, it's that?

01:51:16.000 But I just stumbled across this online while we were on break last week, and I was like, what?

01:51:21.000 I've never heard of this.

01:51:22.000 I need to start using some of your guys' keywords to start searching for shit.

01:51:26.000 I feel like my keywords are narrow when I'm doing my internet fucking time-wasting, and I'm not getting the kind of results you guys are getting.

01:51:36.000 This book that I've been listening to is so intense, man.

01:51:38.000 The Indian one? 1.00

01:51:39.000 All it makes me think about is how all this shit must have been when it went down.

01:51:44.000 Just the bloodiness of it?

01:51:45.000 Oh my god, terrific on both sides.

01:51:49.000 Horrific, just terrifying stories of massacres.

01:51:54.000 Who recorded the stories?

01:51:55.000 People that survived, people that wrote letters to their loved ones, they pieced things together.

01:52:02.000 Find out what happened.

01:52:04.000 Crazy.

01:52:04.000 They get their best story, the best story they can get about Custer's last stand and what he was like.

01:52:10.000 Woo! 0.99

01:52:11.000 Dude!

01:52:11.000 That's 150, 160 years ago!

01:52:15.000 That's nothing, man!

01:52:16.000 I know.

01:52:16.000 That just happened!

01:52:18.000 I know.

01:52:19.000 It's real recent.

01:52:20.000 Those fucking people were just like us, but we have iPhones.

01:52:25.000 Exactly.

01:52:25.000 Those crazy people.

01:52:27.000 I think I might have told you this last time I was here.

01:52:29.000 I don't remember that I met Dick Van Dyke.

01:52:31.000 Holy shit.

01:52:32.000 Which was surreal and weird.

01:52:34.000 I think he's 92. Wow.

01:52:35.000 But the most surreal and weird thing he told me was that his grandmother shook Abraham Lincoln's hand.

01:52:42.000 Oh my god.

01:52:43.000 You know what I mean?

01:52:45.000 The grandmother of somebody alive right now.

01:52:48.000 I did tell you that, I think.

01:52:49.000 That's fucking amazing.

01:52:50.000 That's fucking amazing, dude.

01:52:53.000 It's possible.

01:52:54.000 And I think there's a president, like the 8th or 10th president or something right now that has a living grandchild.

01:53:02.000 What the fuck?

01:53:03.000 Yeah, like had kids at 75, had kids at 75. It's fucking crazy.

01:53:09.000 That's not that long ago.

01:53:10.000 That's people just like us with none of the information that we have.

01:53:14.000 It's so recent.

01:53:16.000 Yeah.

01:53:16.000 Oh, there it goes.

01:53:17.000 Lion Gardner, Tyler Sr., two of his own children are still alive.

01:53:22.000 So President Tyler has living grandchildren.

01:53:26.000 John Tyler, 175 years ago.

01:53:31.000 Jesus Christ.

01:53:35.000 I had a bit on my special my last special where I was talking about that the United States is founded in 1776 and people live to be a hundred yeah three people yeah yeah like we don't want to think of that yeah but that's really what it is yeah fuck all this generations talk that's confusing yeah how many people ago like birth to death It's not a lot.

01:53:58.000 They are the same as us.

01:54:00.000 300 years.

01:54:02.000 No tech.

01:54:03.000 Yeah.

01:54:04.000 If you're going to gauge it like a car, what's your zero to 60?

01:54:07.000 It's a hundred years.

01:54:08.000 From a hundred years ago?

01:54:10.000 Three people ago.

01:54:11.000 It's fucking crazy.

01:54:12.000 That's like a full Elon Musk tank, right?

01:54:15.000 Because if you burn it out, you're not going to live to be a hundred.

01:54:18.000 But some people do get to be a hundred.

01:54:19.000 So you've got a hundred miles on that fucking charge.

01:54:21.000 There's cars around now that were built a hundred years ago.

01:54:25.000 And they work.

01:54:25.000 You can drive them.

01:54:26.000 A friend of mine has many.

01:54:28.000 They're kind of fun, actually.

01:54:29.000 Dude, that's a weird concept, right?

01:54:33.000 Yeah.

01:54:35.000 Going from the horse to where we're at now in a hundred years is bananas.

01:54:41.000 In no time.

01:54:41.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:54:42.000 Which is why, like, you know, I believe, like, that...

01:54:47.000 Like, electric cars are awesome, and they're cool, and I think that in places like really dense urban areas where you have a significant number of them, you get cleaner air and all that kind of stuff.

01:54:59.000 But...

01:55:01.000 I just don't know if that's necessarily what our future requires because I think that like the big industries have sort of done this.

01:55:14.000 Well, if everybody does our little part and we all buy an electric car and recycle, we can solve this when it's really sort of like maybe a few less cargo ships.

01:55:22.000 Right?

01:55:23.000 Would be a big difference.

01:55:26.000 Maybe, like, guaranteeing stuff gets from China to you in 12 hours is not really what we need at the expense of our environment.

01:55:35.000 I don't think you need to, like, you know, have everybody needs to go buy an electric car.

01:55:41.000 I don't think that's really necessary.

01:55:43.000 Well, there's a lot of shit that needs to be done, right?

01:55:45.000 Like, whatever the fuck is going on in the ocean...

01:55:48.000 Yeah.

01:55:49.000 We gotta get people to feel about the whole ocean the way we feel about turtles and straws.

01:55:56.000 If we could just get that sentiment and apply it to all.

01:56:01.000 Apply it to our neighbors.

01:56:03.000 Apply it to everyone you meet.

01:56:05.000 It's weird.

01:56:05.000 I think Americans have a really tough time taking care of communal shit.

01:56:11.000 Yeah, but I can't find a fucking plastic straw anymore.

01:56:14.000 I know.

01:56:14.000 It's amazing how quickly that happened.

01:56:16.000 We saw that turtle, the dude with the pliers, he's pulling it out of the turtle's nose, and eventually he comes out with all this blood and everything like that.

01:56:23.000 You need an ugly photograph of a cute animal to really make things happen.

01:56:27.000 But I literally walked to the gym this morning, and from my house to the gym, I walk across the Venice canals, and I saw two bird scooters just in the canals.

01:56:36.000 Just...

01:56:37.000 So it's like, you know, people just can't take care of their shit.

01:56:39.000 That's why you can't have, like, shared stuff.

01:56:42.000 No.

01:56:42.000 Like, the idea of these, like, shared kind of, like, pods, I don't really think is going to happen.

01:56:48.000 I think people...

01:56:49.000 Shared pods?

01:56:50.000 Like, you know, a lot of the people that are...

01:56:52.000 We're low on resources.

01:56:54.000 Like Minority Report, you know, where you commute to work in a pod.

01:56:57.000 Oh, you don't think that's going to happen?

01:56:59.000 Like...

01:57:00.000 Flying through the air and shit.

01:57:01.000 The Taycan makes the Jetsons noise.

01:57:03.000 No, it doesn't.

01:57:03.000 When you drive it, it makes the brrrr.

01:57:05.000 Really?

01:57:05.000 Yeah, it does make Jetsons noise.

01:57:07.000 Does it do it for you?

01:57:07.000 Like it's a joke?

01:57:08.000 Or does it make real noise?

01:57:10.000 No, it does it out of the speakers as a way, as a fun thing.

01:57:14.000 Oh, so it's brrrr.

01:57:16.000 I feel like you can let it slide.

01:57:18.000 You know why?

01:57:19.000 Because it's not pretending to be an engine.

01:57:22.000 No, no, no.

01:57:22.000 It's not.

01:57:23.000 It makes an appropriate noise for the thing that it's doing.

01:57:27.000 It's kind of offensive if it made an engine noise.

01:57:29.000 You'd be like, hey, hey, stop.

01:57:31.000 Although, I think, did Elon ever come out with, did Tesla come out with a thing that would fake engine soundtracks while you're driving?

01:57:38.000 Really?

01:57:38.000 Maybe it does.

01:57:39.000 Somebody came up with something that you can put in your car and it will play different engine soundtracks, I think, while you're driving.

01:57:46.000 Dude, Tiffany Haddish made her fucking car dance. 1.00

01:57:49.000 In what way?

01:57:51.000 The Tesla has a feature.

01:57:52.000 Oh, where it opens the doors and shit and does lights and stuff.

01:57:56.000 She's got the one with the gull wings. 1.00

01:57:57.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:57:58.000 She plays music in the back of the comic store and hits the dance thing and steps out and she's dancing in front of her car.

01:58:04.000 We're all dancing.

01:58:05.000 We're dancing in front of Tiffany Haddish's car.

01:58:08.000 He's dancing for us.

01:58:09.000 That's the difference between Porsche and Tesla. 1.00

01:58:13.000 It's like a meme machine.

01:58:14.000 It's like a phone that you're driving.

01:58:17.000 It's fun and it's silly.

01:58:20.000 Especially the Model X is a very optimistic representation of the future.

01:58:26.000 Pedestrian noisemakers.

01:58:28.000 Yeah.

01:58:29.000 So that's a different thing, I think.

01:58:32.000 The Taycan doesn't really make any noise on the outside.

01:58:34.000 It makes the noises on the inside.

01:58:36.000 If we're going to have noise that it makes on the outside, we better regulate that immediately.

01:58:42.000 Because some dudes are just going to have screams. 1.00

01:58:46.000 If you can just decide what noise your silent thing makes, how the fuck should you say that it has to sound like a Corvette?

01:58:53.000 I had a Chevy Volt that had two horns.

01:58:55.000 It had the, on the steering wheel, the er, er, angry horn.

01:58:58.000 And then at the end of the blinker stalk, it had this really polite, like, trill for, like, pedestrian, for that.

01:59:05.000 It would go brr, like a cat purring almost.

01:59:08.000 It was very polite.

01:59:10.000 It's just weird that we let people drive.

01:59:13.000 Yeah.

01:59:14.000 It's weird that we trust each other.

01:59:16.000 When you're on the highway and everybody's keeping it together, it's weird that we just all know to keep it together.

01:59:21.000 There's a really interesting fallacy that gets passed around a lot, which is that humans are bad drivers, and that's combined with another fallacy that driving is easy.

01:59:34.000 Both of those are untrue.

01:59:36.000 Humans are actually very good drivers, and driving is very hard.

01:59:38.000 Yes.

01:59:39.000 And the problem is that humans are so easily distracted.

01:59:42.000 And we now have this device that is designed to distract us that's with us all the time.

01:59:46.000 Dude, how often do you look up when you're driving and you see someone on their phone?

01:59:49.000 Oh, on my scooter.

01:59:50.000 When I'm riding my motorcycle around town, that's all I do is I'm looking in mirrors and seeing who's not paying attention.

01:59:56.000 Ed Norton still rides a motorcycle.

01:59:58.000 I know.

01:59:59.000 I was listening to him talk about that.

02:00:00.000 He's talking about looking down and watching people.

02:00:02.000 How crazy is that guy?

02:00:03.000 The key to riding a motorcycle in LA is to understand that it is your job to be more prepared than everyone in a car.

02:00:09.000 I think mostly he rides in New York City, though.

02:00:12.000 Yeah.

02:00:13.000 He was a little more...

02:00:14.000 He wasn't as kind to riding in LA as I am.

02:00:18.000 I think riding in LA is not that scary.

02:00:20.000 And I think that because you can lane split here, it makes a big difference.

02:00:25.000 It's way safer to lane split.

02:00:26.000 Yeah?

02:00:27.000 Yeah, way safer.

02:00:27.000 Because most car-on-motorcycle collisions are actually rear-endings at lights.

02:00:33.000 People can't tell the difference between the bike and the car, and they crunch them.

02:00:37.000 And so if you're lane-splitting, you move to the front of the line in traffic, and so you don't get those rear-endings.

02:00:42.000 The problem with lane-splitting is that sometimes people look like they're going to go and change lanes, and they look behind them.

02:00:49.000 And then when they look, the motorcycle's going so fast, they're already there.

02:00:52.000 Well, you shouldn't be going that fast on the bike.

02:00:55.000 You shouldn't be going that fast.

02:00:56.000 I've seen some guys that are doing some crazy shit on bikes and splitting lanes.

02:01:00.000 It's like, come on, boys.

02:01:01.000 The law says 15, differential.

02:01:02.000 15 between cars.

02:01:04.000 Between your speed on the bike and cars.

02:01:06.000 Oh, well, that's not real.

02:01:08.000 I mean, that's just what the law says.

02:01:09.000 I don't know.

02:01:09.000 Yeah.

02:01:10.000 But you can't even catch them.

02:01:12.000 I saw some dudes the other day on the 405 that made me so nervous.

02:01:16.000 Yeah.

02:01:17.000 Crazy sport bike people.

02:01:18.000 Come on, man.

02:01:18.000 Yeah.

02:01:19.000 Crazy sport bike people will be crazy sport bike people.

02:01:21.000 But that thing, if you can manage that thing...

02:01:25.000 One of those fucking things.

02:01:26.000 Your reality is so different than anybody else's.

02:01:29.000 Have you ridden bikes ever?

02:01:31.000 No.

02:01:32.000 I mean, very little.

02:01:33.000 Very, very, very little.

02:01:34.000 I took some lessons.

02:01:35.000 But two people I know crashed and got hurt pretty bad.

02:01:39.000 And one of them was a dude who was fighting for the UFC. His name was Frank Mir.

02:01:43.000 He was a UFC heavyweight champion.

02:01:46.000 Dude who's got one of the best guards in the history of the sport.

02:01:50.000 Arguably one of the best submission fighters of all time in the heavyweight division.

02:01:53.000 You know, world champion.

02:01:54.000 Still fighting or after the accident now?

02:01:56.000 He is, but he got hit by a car and got launched into the air, man.

02:02:00.000 And he almost lost his leg.

02:02:02.000 It was a serious break, man.

02:02:04.000 Well, if his leg got crunched in between car and motorcycle engine, yeah, that's really bad.

02:02:09.000 Dude, he's a gorilla.

02:02:11.000 He's a giant dude.

02:02:12.000 No, it's gnarly, man.

02:02:16.000 Motorcycling is risky.

02:02:18.000 For me, it's a pretty calculated risk.

02:02:21.000 I'm riding a little scooter.

02:02:23.000 When you ride a scooter versus a motorcycle, you don't get that leg crunch thing, actually.

02:02:29.000 It is what it is.

02:02:31.000 You've got to have eyes up.

02:02:33.000 You've got to be ready.

02:02:35.000 You can't have a beer and ride home.

02:02:39.000 You can feel it.

02:02:41.000 You can't do it.

02:02:41.000 Right.

02:02:42.000 I mean, you shouldn't, but even if you, you know, legally, you still shouldn't do it.

02:02:45.000 And also, like, I love, love that I can't pick up the fucking phone.

02:02:53.000 On that bike that half hour on my little scooter getting my way through traffic to wherever I'm going That's a nice break from the fucking phone and being able to just be in motion in LA and You know and you're you're just going to even if you're going slow 10 miles an hour Everyone around you stopped and you're moving.

02:03:12.000 That's the fucking luxury man.

02:03:14.000 That's what I'm about.

02:03:15.000 I'm about being moving when other people are stopped That's for me.

02:03:19.000 That's what's up might be time to move It might be time to have to hire a crew.

02:03:25.000 Take care of your machine with all the giant building with all the cars in it and just get out of here before it blows up.

02:03:32.000 It's hard.

02:03:33.000 It's a hard dichotomy.

02:03:34.000 LA, if you want to do the job I have, LA is kind of where you need to be.

02:03:37.000 It's the spot, right?

02:03:38.000 Bro, I can get a press car.

02:03:40.000 I can get an 800 horsepower supercar press car in January if I wanted.

02:03:44.000 You can't do that back in New York.

02:03:46.000 Who drives more cars than you?

02:03:48.000 I've reviewed over a thousand cars.

02:03:50.000 That is so crazy.

02:03:51.000 It's a lot.

02:03:51.000 Well, that's why you developed all these oddball tastes.

02:03:53.000 That's why you have that wacky Porsche interior.

02:03:56.000 I mean, that's where all that comes from.

02:03:57.000 I have the weirdest cars, dude.

02:03:59.000 I only have strange stuff.

02:04:02.000 The Fox body Mustang.

02:04:04.000 I sold that.

02:04:05.000 You did?

02:04:05.000 I did.

02:04:06.000 I got a lot of money for it.

02:04:07.000 I gave half the money to charity.

02:04:08.000 Oh, that's beautiful.

02:04:09.000 We paid an animal shelter's rent for a year.

02:04:12.000 Oh, that's cool.

02:04:12.000 Shout out to Peter Zippy Fund if you want a kitten in the South Bay.

02:04:17.000 Me and my wife just got a 1991 Mitsubishi Delica, which is a Japanese import van.

02:04:25.000 Oh, shit.

02:04:25.000 And it's a turbo diesel.

02:04:27.000 It's a 4x4.

02:04:28.000 And it's a six passenger.

02:04:29.000 It has like swiveling captain's chairs.

02:04:31.000 And it's just the coolest thing ever.

02:04:34.000 There it is.

02:04:34.000 Whoa, look at that.

02:04:35.000 Look at that!

02:04:37.000 And it's like a space van.

02:04:39.000 Dude, back in the day, that was the shit.

02:04:42.000 Yeah.

02:04:42.000 It's got 40,000 kilometers on it.

02:04:44.000 It's like 22,000 miles.

02:04:46.000 And I'm using it as the airport shuttle for my shop.

02:04:50.000 That's what we thought of as a car from the future in the 80s.

02:04:53.000 Yes, space van.

02:04:55.000 Like, if you were living in the 80s...

02:04:56.000 I want to know what the fuck happened to custom vans.

02:05:02.000 Well, now custom vans are a new thing.

02:05:05.000 So now custom vans have gone two directions.

02:05:07.000 On the one direction, you've got the private jet vans, right?

02:05:10.000 The Lexani, like you see fucking Tyrese rolling around in, right?

02:05:14.000 Where they make it kind of look like a private jet interior with the Sprinters.

02:05:18.000 And then you've got your Overland vans, like your sportsmobiles and your camping-type rigs, your off-roading rigs.

02:05:25.000 So they split.

02:05:26.000 They don't do the cool shag carpet, let's fuck anymore kind of vans. 0.73

02:05:30.000 What happened with that?

02:05:31.000 There's a magazine called Rolling Heavy Magazine that is an enthusiast magazine for that kind of van.

02:05:37.000 That's hilarious.

02:05:38.000 That's hilarious.

02:05:39.000 Yeah.

02:05:40.000 Vans are still, they're cool with a certain subculture.

02:05:43.000 Those Volkswagen Syncros, the 4x4 Volkswagen vans from the 80s, are worth a ton of money.

02:05:49.000 Are they really?

02:05:50.000 Like 50 grand.

02:05:51.000 What?

02:05:51.000 Yeah, they're worth a lot of money.

02:05:52.000 Dude, it's hilarious when they take those bugs, those...

02:05:56.000 What is the station wagon, the VW bus?

02:06:00.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:06:01.000 And they put Porsche engines in them.

02:06:02.000 Oh, you ever seen them guys racing?

02:06:03.000 Juice them up.

02:06:04.000 Yeah.

02:06:04.000 They take the old vans from the 60s and 70s, the classic Volkswagen microbus, and then they basically graft on a Porsche floor plan.

02:06:14.000 To it with a Porsche engine, which will fit Porsche suspension, and they go fast as fuck, dude.

02:06:20.000 They race some things in Germany.

02:06:22.000 Can you pull up anything?

02:06:24.000 There you go.

02:06:24.000 I want to see one of those things.

02:06:25.000 At Hockenheim.

02:06:26.000 Look, this dude's just straightened.

02:06:27.000 Look, this guy's following a Ferrari down the front straight.

02:06:30.000 Oh my God.

02:06:30.000 This guy's mobbing, and he chopped the roof, right?

02:06:33.000 He's lowered it.

02:06:35.000 If you can get some in-car video of one of these guys driving, it's like bananas.

02:06:40.000 What a crazy little vehicle.

02:06:41.000 Yeah, there's other ones that are even nuttier.

02:06:44.000 Oh, there you go.

02:06:45.000 Close-ups.

02:06:47.000 They're just crazy.

02:06:48.000 Some of these Volkswagen guys, oh wow, he's really using the whole course there.

02:06:51.000 Good for him!

02:06:53.000 So that's a 530 horsepower Porsche 993 race taxi.

02:06:59.000 Oh, how cool!

02:07:00.000 He's got Gabriel Iglesias?

02:07:03.000 Is Fluffy a fucking van enthusiast?

02:07:06.000 Jesus Christ, Fluffy.

02:07:08.000 Bro!

02:07:09.000 What are you doing, Fluffy?

02:07:11.000 Whoa, Fluffy's garage is fucking sick, dude.

02:07:13.000 The Fluffy Museum?

02:07:15.000 This is real?

02:07:16.000 The Fluffy Museum?

02:07:19.000 In Long Beach?

02:07:20.000 This is here?

02:07:21.000 How have we never heard of this?

02:07:23.000 Bro.

02:07:24.000 This is a real thing?

02:07:25.000 This is a real thing.

02:07:26.000 Look at this.

02:07:27.000 Wow.

02:07:27.000 He must have really loved these things growing up.

02:07:30.000 That's hysterical.

02:07:31.000 That is crazy.

02:07:32.000 How many does he have?

02:07:33.000 A lot.

02:07:33.000 Well, that orange and red is fantastic.

02:07:35.000 Those are beautiful.

02:07:36.000 That's really nice.

02:07:36.000 I had no idea Fluffy was a VW bus enthusiast.

02:07:40.000 Oh, we've got to get him in one of these fast ones.

02:07:42.000 How strange is that?

02:07:43.000 People that are into those are really, really into those.

02:07:46.000 Seinfeld's got a few of them, too.

02:07:48.000 Look how many he has!

02:07:49.000 $3 million bus collection.

02:07:52.000 That is bananas.

02:07:53.000 Yeah.

02:07:54.000 And, you know, they sell those.

02:07:56.000 If you want, like, the 21 window, they call it, or the 23 window, that's where it's got the extra windows on the roof.

02:08:02.000 The total number of windows normally is, like, 17 or whatever, but the 21 windows and the 23 windows are, like, $100,000 to $150,000.

02:08:12.000 Wow.

02:08:12.000 What?

02:08:13.000 Yeah.

02:08:13.000 Wow.

02:08:14.000 Just because they're rare and nostalgic.

02:08:16.000 Dude, look how beautiful he has these things restored.

02:08:19.000 Yeah.

02:08:20.000 You ever drive one?

02:08:20.000 Oh, my God, no.

02:08:21.000 The worst.

02:08:22.000 They drive like shit.

02:08:24.000 They drive like fucking garbage.

02:08:26.000 So do you think he has everything stock, or do you think he has them juiced up?

02:08:29.000 I don't know.

02:08:30.000 I mean, an enthusiast, I didn't realize he was so serious about those, but I'm sure he's got a nice variety of them.

02:08:37.000 He's got Jay driving stuff.

02:08:39.000 Jay knows his shit, man.

02:08:41.000 I had a real fun day hanging out with Jay doing his show.

02:08:43.000 He knows his shit.

02:08:45.000 He's a good dude.

02:08:46.000 Yeah, I did his show with my 1965 Corvette.

02:08:49.000 How is that thing working?

02:08:50.000 I saw it outside.

02:08:51.000 It's great, man.

02:08:51.000 I like the wheels you've got on it.

02:08:52.000 It's great.

02:08:52.000 Yeah?

02:08:53.000 Yeah.

02:08:53.000 What are you driving the most these days?

02:08:55.000 Just the Tesla?

02:08:56.000 Yeah.

02:08:56.000 The Tesla does kind of eliminate a lot of other driving, doesn't it?

02:09:00.000 A lot of the nonsense.

02:09:01.000 Like, why am I fucking around here?

02:09:02.000 I know.

02:09:03.000 Because it's just, it's so easy.

02:09:05.000 I know, man.

02:09:06.000 It chills you out.

02:09:07.000 I know.

02:09:07.000 I mean, there's something exciting about the roar of an engine, right?

02:09:11.000 There's something about engines.

02:09:12.000 There's something really like something about it.

02:09:16.000 But there's also something about this sort of zen travel thing that goes on when your car doesn't make any noise.

02:09:24.000 There's a zen thing.

02:09:25.000 Yeah.

02:09:25.000 And I think it calms you down a little bit.

02:09:27.000 It does.

02:09:27.000 You're a little more relaxed when you get to where you're going.

02:09:29.000 And they're quiet inside.

02:09:30.000 And also, part of that is, well, a lot of that is just, you don't really realize how harsh the vibration of an engine is until it's gone.

02:09:41.000 Right.

02:09:42.000 You know, and even a very smooth engine with a very smooth gearbox sends a lot of vibrations and jerkiness through the car.

02:09:50.000 Shit going on.

02:09:50.000 And when it's gone...

02:09:51.000 Especially with the Tesla where you're driving with one foot, driving with one pedal.

02:09:56.000 So now it's like you go from, wow, I need to use three pedals and two feet and an arm to a finger and one foot.

02:10:03.000 You're physically doing a lot less.

02:10:05.000 But you used to say that you liked your Porsche to go to the comedy store because it juiced you up.

02:10:10.000 You still feel like that?

02:10:11.000 Yeah, I like something loud.

02:10:14.000 Something that's just stupid.

02:10:17.000 You've got to get in the zone.

02:10:18.000 Yeah, but it just gives you a little bit of a kickstart.

02:10:23.000 You don't even have to drive fast.

02:10:24.000 It's not about that.

02:10:25.000 It's about what it can do.

02:10:27.000 It's like you're taking it out for this light.

02:10:28.000 It just moves better.

02:10:30.000 It moves around corners better.

02:10:31.000 It grips the road better.

02:10:32.000 It feels more mechanical.

02:10:34.000 Yeah.

02:10:35.000 My 911's kind of like that, but it's actually got the elements of like a Baja truck also.

02:10:41.000 So you could just fucking smash speed bumps.

02:10:44.000 Oh, really?

02:10:45.000 And like, you know those weird transitions into driveways here that everybody hates in sports cars?

02:10:49.000 You got to take them at an angle and all that?

02:10:50.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:10:51.000 Boom.

02:10:51.000 Straight in, on the power, just kind of bounce it a little bit.

02:10:54.000 You could drive off of curbs and shit.

02:10:56.000 It is so fun.

02:10:58.000 It's all those things you love about your car.

02:11:01.000 But also the things you want in like a trophy truck.

02:11:04.000 Jesus Christ.

02:11:05.000 It rules.

02:11:06.000 Wow.

02:11:06.000 It's so great.

02:11:07.000 You should be a salesman.

02:11:08.000 I am.

02:11:09.000 No, I don't get kickbacks, but everybody should buy an off-road Porsche.

02:11:13.000 It's fucking great.

02:11:14.000 That's hilarious.

02:11:14.000 Yeah.

02:11:15.000 Of all the recommendations, there's a lot of people out there who suggest you stay in school and get your shit together.

02:11:21.000 Jordan Peterson says to clean your room.

02:11:22.000 Dude, you don't want to come for me for good consumer advice.

02:11:25.000 Get a Safari Porsche.

02:11:26.000 I'll tell you to buy some stupid shit.

02:11:28.000 I only have stupid cars.

02:11:30.000 I love the fact that you dumped so much money into that Mustang.

02:11:35.000 No disrespect to anybody.

02:11:37.000 That's okay.

02:11:37.000 It's true.

02:11:38.000 What I feel is the second ugliest version.

02:11:41.000 It was kind of unique at the time.

02:11:43.000 It wasn't ugly at the time.

02:11:45.000 You and Rutledge spent mad time talking shit about my Mustang.

02:11:49.000 It's just an odd choice.

02:11:52.000 Because you're a connoisseur of automobiles, right?

02:11:55.000 In my mind, I'm like, why wouldn't he get a 68 Mustang?

02:11:58.000 I don't have a connection to those cars.

02:12:01.000 Really?

02:12:01.000 Yeah, I was born in 81. So to me, the Mustangs of my youth...

02:12:08.000 That was my car.

02:12:09.000 Larry Chen shot that photo.

02:12:10.000 That does look pretty dope.

02:12:11.000 Oh, the car was beautiful, man.

02:12:13.000 That was a beautiful car.

02:12:15.000 And I did dump a lot of money into it, but I got on the cover of CarCraft magazine.

02:12:20.000 I had a feature in Speedhunters, and I got all my money back out of it even after I gave half the money to charity.

02:12:28.000 So I got out of it pretty good.

02:12:29.000 It's fantastic.

02:12:30.000 And you deserved every penny of it.

02:12:32.000 It drove really nice, too.

02:12:33.000 Look at the suspension, like the way it sits, rather.

02:12:35.000 The fat, wide tires.

02:12:37.000 Got the right stance.

02:12:38.000 Those are awesome wheels, too.

02:12:40.000 What are those wheels?

02:12:41.000 The wheels are HRE RS 105s, which is a really popular wheel for the Ford GT they use.

02:12:48.000 So that's probably the cheapest car they've ever been on.

02:12:50.000 Is there a side picture of that?

02:12:53.000 The wheels retail for like 12k.

02:12:55.000 They're really expensive.

02:12:56.000 Oh, that's so pretty.

02:12:57.000 Yeah.

02:12:58.000 I mean, I'm sure if Joe Rogan won a deal, we could probably get something worked out with HRE, but...

02:13:02.000 That's so pretty.

02:13:02.000 That car was so cool, but you know, after it was done, like that picture you just saw is it done, basically.

02:13:09.000 And once it was done, I was like, oh, fuck, man.

02:13:13.000 You know, this thing handles so good and it looks so cool.

02:13:16.000 It could really use like 300 more horsepower.

02:13:19.000 Yeah.

02:13:19.000 It was like 300 horsepower, 350 horsepower, and it really needed to be like 600. And so I was at the point where I either was going to spend two more years and $20,000 more, and maybe I'd be happy with what I got at the end,

02:13:35.000 or it was just time to move on.

02:13:37.000 And at about the same time, I drove...

02:13:40.000 Lee Keen is the name of the dude who built my Porsche, and he builds and sells those.

02:13:44.000 Mine is number 14 of the cars he builds.

02:13:47.000 I drove his for a video, and I just was so in love with it, and I just said, oh, this is exactly the thing that I need in my life right now.

02:13:55.000 And so when I sold the Mustang, I gave the money to Lee Keen and got a lifted 911. I love the fact that you took that as your daily driver.

02:14:04.000 Yeah.

02:14:05.000 That's what I love.

02:14:06.000 In combination with the scooter and the test cars I have.

02:14:09.000 But that's hilarious.

02:14:10.000 Yeah.

02:14:10.000 Your number one squeeze is this Safari 911 from 1987. I didn't spend all that money to look at it, you know?

02:14:18.000 Yeah, yeah, right?

02:14:19.000 If I spent all that money, it has no collector value, right?

02:14:23.000 It's just the value is what I get out of driving it.

02:14:25.000 Isn't it shocking when you open one of those old Porsches, the heft to it, the surprising heft?

02:14:32.000 The solidness of it.

02:14:33.000 Yes.

02:14:34.000 Those galvanized Porsche bodies from the 60s to the mid-90s are some of the finest built vehicles in terms of quality and engineering.

02:14:46.000 Now, they're expensive to maintain.

02:14:48.000 They can be annoying.

02:14:49.000 But as far as pure quality of engineering, there's nothing better.

02:14:55.000 It's probably the finest car in the world from a quality perspective through most of its life.

02:15:01.000 The 964 is a really unusual one for me because that year was like they still kept the frog eyes, but the suspension became more lively, a little bit more controllable, but yet it still maintained a lot of the old feel.

02:15:19.000 At the time, those cars, if you go back to 92, when those cars came out, or 91, and you read contemporary reviews of the car, they were calling it old, slow, and heavy.

02:15:32.000 They said it was a solid-feeling car, but the Corvette ZR1 was way faster and lighter, you know what I mean?

02:15:38.000 And the Ferrari, let's see, well, the 348 was a piece of shit, but...

02:15:44.000 What the fuck else?

02:15:45.000 92. Some of the Japanese stuff.

02:15:46.000 The Supra.

02:15:47.000 The 300ZX Twin Turbo.

02:15:49.000 These were modern cars with turbochargers and all this new cool shit.

02:15:54.000 And here was this sort of...

02:15:55.000 Well, this 911 is really still sort of the same since the 60s, you know?

02:15:59.000 And so that kind of dragged on.

02:16:03.000 But...

02:16:03.000 To revisit those cars now, the fact that they were unchanged from the 60s to the mid-90s is a positive.

02:16:12.000 It's an endearing quality.

02:16:15.000 They developed that body and chassis so thoroughly over those 30 years that...

02:16:24.000 It's such a finely engineered thing that you can take it and build something like a Singer out of it.

02:16:29.000 A Singer 911 is as fast around Laguna Seca as a Ferrari 458 with no traction control and manually shifting.

02:16:40.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:16:41.000 I mean, they've done wonders with those chassis, and they've really lightened them with carbon bodies, and so it is possible to take that chassis further.

02:16:49.000 It just would have cost Porsche.

02:16:51.000 Porsche lost so much money in the 90s, dude.

02:16:54.000 Porsche was really hanging on by a thread, and they were losing money like crazy until Volkswagen and Audi Group came in, and that's where you ended up with the water-cooled cars, the Boxster, and then the Cayenne.

02:17:05.000 Wow.

02:17:05.000 But in the 90s, when they were doing the 993s, they were losing a crazy amount of money on those cars.

02:17:13.000 Really?

02:17:13.000 Yeah.

02:17:15.000 It's a weird car, right?

02:17:17.000 It's like they stuck with that crazy design for so long.

02:17:19.000 Yeah, it feels old.

02:17:22.000 It feels like 25 years older than it really is, and yet it is so finely made.

02:17:28.000 Yeah.

02:17:29.000 It's so interesting.

02:17:30.000 Right, so a strange combination, right?

02:17:32.000 Mm-hmm.

02:17:33.000 As opposed to something like...

02:17:34.000 That's a crazy one.

02:17:35.000 That's a 993 GT Carrera RS. That's delightful.

02:17:40.000 Yeah, that's very nice.

02:17:41.000 That's a beautiful car.

02:17:41.000 So, you know, if you look at the passenger compartment, the roofline, the windshield, the side windows of those cars, you know, that's basically unchanged from the 70s to the late 90s.

02:17:51.000 It's such a pretty shape.

02:17:52.000 It's just like some shape that people just...

02:17:56.000 We're good to go.

02:18:16.000 You know, to just run around the city and drive.

02:18:18.000 You know, you can drive a car from the 70s.

02:18:20.000 You know, Magnus fucking drives that car.

02:18:23.000 You know, he drives cars from the 70s.

02:18:25.000 Like, no problem.

02:18:26.000 You could do that.

02:18:26.000 Dude, Magnus had this car that he sold to some rock and roll star in England.

02:18:31.000 He had this silver with blue stripes, and it was like a 69 or something like that.

02:18:37.000 I think I remember that car, yeah.

02:18:39.000 Oh my god, that car was a magic thing.

02:18:41.000 He's got cool taste.

02:18:43.000 There's a video of him driving it, going around this corner.

02:18:46.000 He had that video that they made about him.

02:18:48.000 It's like a little short documentary.

02:18:50.000 The Urban Outlaw documentary.

02:18:50.000 That's it.

02:18:51.000 And he comes around in this old school silver portion.

02:18:55.000 You look and he's like...

02:18:57.000 That's a whole different thing he's doing than everybody else.

02:18:59.000 And he's not even driving fast.

02:19:01.000 You don't even have to drive fast in that thing.

02:19:03.000 What does it weigh?

02:19:04.000 I mean, 2,500 pounds.

02:19:06.000 It's so light.

02:19:06.000 And it doesn't have a lot of power either.

02:19:08.000 Well, one of the things I love about my car is with the lift on it and the tires, you've got less grip than a normal 911. So if nobody's around, I can slide entrance ramps.

02:19:19.000 I can be a silly bastard in that car.

02:19:23.000 And it's just extra fun.

02:19:24.000 Look at this.

02:19:25.000 Oh yeah, that is the silver car with the blue.

02:19:27.000 Yeah, that's an excellent car.

02:19:28.000 Even when you hear the engine, it doesn't sound like anything else.

02:19:33.000 It's a weird little mechanical creature.

02:19:36.000 Because of a small displacement, that's probably a 2 or a 2-0 or a 2-2.

02:19:40.000 It's not like this big bore 3-8 like you've got, or I've got a 3-2, which is a bit more of a bassy kind of tone.

02:19:48.000 The older engines have a higher pitch.

02:19:50.000 Those ones are so small.

02:19:52.000 The 60s ones are little.

02:19:53.000 God damn, it's so weird.

02:19:54.000 But they're still pretty big inside.

02:19:55.000 It's the same size inside as your car.

02:19:58.000 You could get in it and drive in it.

02:19:59.000 Even those 356s, the really old Porsches in the 50s, those are actually kind of roomy.

02:20:06.000 When you put that engine in the back, yeah, your feet can go pretty far forward.

02:20:11.000 Germans are pretty big people, too.

02:20:12.000 Yeah, one of the things with Porsche specifically is about tall people fitting.

02:20:16.000 Yeah, they got barbarian DNA, man.

02:20:18.000 And the CEO of Porsche for a very long time was 6'4", and so he demanded...

02:20:23.000 That's why Panamera looks like it does, so that a 6'4 person can fit in the back.

02:20:28.000 It's exactly that reason.

02:20:30.000 Oh, wow.

02:20:30.000 What'd they do with the backseat of the 911?

02:20:32.000 Those are ridiculous.

02:20:33.000 Well, those are for kids.

02:20:35.000 Little kids, too.

02:20:36.000 I think that's an insurance thing.

02:20:38.000 I think by being a four-seater...

02:20:40.000 Oh, that makes sense.

02:20:42.000 Yeah.

02:20:42.000 I just don't have rear seats, though.

02:20:44.000 I mean, you could have a friend get in the back of your 911 for a couple of blocks.

02:20:49.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:20:49.000 It's possible.

02:20:50.000 But it's more like you throw your duffel bag back there or whatever.

02:20:53.000 It's just too tight.

02:20:55.000 It's too tight.

02:20:55.000 But the ones you buy don't have rear seats, so what do you care?

02:20:58.000 You buy the RSs.

02:20:59.000 They don't have the rear seats.

02:21:01.000 If I drive one of those cars, especially the older ones, like the 964, I like the most stripped down ones.

02:21:10.000 That's what I like the most.

02:21:11.000 Yeah, it makes sense.

02:21:12.000 I don't want a radio.

02:21:15.000 I like a radio.

02:21:16.000 I don't want air conditioning.

02:21:17.000 Nothing.

02:21:18.000 I use my car every day, and so I have a radio and air conditioning, but yeah, I know what you mean.

02:21:22.000 But a car like that is like a little ride.

02:21:25.000 It's like you're taking a ride more than it is like you're driving.

02:21:27.000 No, driving is the thing.

02:21:29.000 That's what you're doing.

02:21:30.000 You're driving.

02:21:32.000 My Lamborghini I treat like that.

02:21:33.000 I don't take that to do bullshit when I go out and drive that car.

02:21:38.000 That is my activity.

02:21:39.000 Yeah, so a guy like Magnus, he's experiencing what a normal person experiences when they're enjoying the pleasure of driving, but he's getting way more analog, way more super light car.

02:21:51.000 It's all ancient fucking technology.

02:21:54.000 Light cars are real easy to drive, though.

02:21:56.000 When you've got a little engine, you can give a light clutch, you can have a light shifter.

02:22:00.000 You don't need, you know, the more power you've got, the heavier duty everything needs to be.

02:22:06.000 And so when you dial that stuff back and the car's 2,000 pounds and the engine's only 200 horsepower, you can just fingertip the whole thing.

02:22:14.000 It's very easy.

02:22:15.000 Yeah.

02:22:15.000 My friend Todd said this to me.

02:22:17.000 It was a very wise thing.

02:22:18.000 He said it doesn't matter how fast you're going.

02:22:21.000 It doesn't matter how fast it feels.

02:22:23.000 Totally.

02:22:23.000 He was talking about old 911s.

02:22:25.000 A thousand percent.

02:22:26.000 A thousand percent.

02:22:27.000 It's a wise perspective because you go, oh yeah, if you're just enjoying the car, you're supposed to get maximum enjoyment.

02:22:34.000 It doesn't have to be attached to a number.

02:22:36.000 Correct.

02:22:36.000 Like, if you didn't know how fast you were going, you weren't looking at your car other than for the purposes of safety.

02:22:41.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:22:42.000 You weren't, like, it wasn't a dick contest.

02:22:44.000 There'd be a certain level you wouldn't want to drive at.

02:22:47.000 I agree.

02:22:48.000 Even knowing the speeds, like, for me personally, like...

02:22:52.000 My cars have fairly low power.

02:22:56.000 They're not crazy huge power cars.

02:22:58.000 And I think beyond a certain point, I just can't use it anymore.

02:23:02.000 And so I think there's an argument for having something like a Tesla for every day and then having an engaging machine for the weekends.

02:23:12.000 One of my favorite videos that you ever did was that...

02:23:16.000 Was it BBI that did a...

02:23:18.000 Oh, Joey Seely's car?

02:23:20.000 Yes.

02:23:20.000 You know that car's for sale?

02:23:21.000 Is it really?

02:23:22.000 Yep.

02:23:22.000 You want it?

02:23:22.000 No.

02:23:24.000 That car's for sale.

02:23:25.000 That's a lovely car.

02:23:26.000 It's a beautiful car.

02:23:27.000 It is for sale.

02:23:27.000 It was called Project Nasty, and I think he got it down to maybe 2,200 pounds.

02:23:33.000 It's the lightest 964 I ever drove.

02:23:36.000 But it was so light it had no headliner.

02:23:38.000 Yeah, no nothing.

02:23:39.000 All metal inside of it and everything.

02:23:41.000 I remember watching it going, look at that thing.

02:23:43.000 Yeah.

02:23:43.000 But what you said was really interesting was that this is the kind of car you build when you make cars for other people.

02:23:51.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:23:52.000 And you want to build something for yourself.

02:23:53.000 You build something like this.

02:23:54.000 The most focused kind of thing.

02:23:56.000 Because that company's known for these really high-end custom builds of Porsches, and they make crazy fast things.

02:24:04.000 Dude, you can buy...

02:24:05.000 I mean, you can write a check right now.

02:24:08.000 You can just write a check, walk away, come back in two months, and have like a 1,500 horsepower 911. That's bananas.

02:24:14.000 Because these guys race runways out here now.

02:24:17.000 That's like the thing now, is runway racing.

02:24:20.000 So they go out and they go side-by-side half-mile, and they're doing like 220, 230 in the half-mile.

02:24:25.000 You ever see that video, I'm sure you have, of the guy in the GTR in the Nürburgring and he just catches air?

02:24:31.000 Oh yeah.

02:24:33.000 Dude, that's fucking terrifying.

02:24:37.000 You should go drive a Nürburgring.

02:24:38.000 If you haven't, you really should.

02:24:40.000 I just told you, a guy fly.

02:24:41.000 Yeah, but you wouldn't fly.

02:24:43.000 A guy would fly through the air.

02:24:44.000 You wouldn't fly.

02:24:45.000 You would drive the Nürburgring in a more normal car that doesn't fly.

02:24:48.000 Yeah, I would drive something.

02:24:50.000 And by the way, after that, they re-sculpted that section of track.

02:24:55.000 Really?

02:24:56.000 Yes.

02:24:56.000 They, for a period of time, they imposed a speed limit, even during races, through that section, to prevent that from happening again.

02:25:05.000 They changed, I believe, the rules of the racing series to slow the cars down.

02:25:10.000 And then I believe they re-sculpted the track.

02:25:13.000 There as well, after that incident.

02:25:15.000 So it couldn't catch air like that?

02:25:16.000 Or at least to make it substantially less likely.

02:25:19.000 Yeah.

02:25:20.000 Cars catching air is a...

02:25:21.000 In your next internet dive, Google race cars catching air.

02:25:26.000 No!

02:25:27.000 No!

02:25:29.000 I'm going to attempt to look for that, but there's just tons of videos.

02:25:31.000 Yeah, you can't Google Nurburgring crash and not end up with...

02:25:35.000 People are going so fast, and people lose it all the time.

02:25:38.000 Dude, it's such a fun, scary, crazy place.

02:25:43.000 Every...

02:25:45.000 Every reputation, every bit of reputation it's earned, it deserves.

02:25:49.000 But doing it is one of the more unique experiences of your life.

02:25:52.000 And you don't have to, like you said, you don't have to go for time.

02:25:55.000 You can just go and drive it as a fast, fun road, which is what I've done.

02:25:59.000 As Americans, we should be ashamed that the Germans have the Nürburgring. 1.00

02:26:05.000 I mean, come on, people.

02:26:07.000 Hitler built it if we want to be. 0.97

02:26:09.000 Did he really?

02:26:10.000 I mean, he didn't physically lay the asphalt, but it was a Hitler... 0.95

02:26:14.000 It was a Fourth Reich superiority thing right alongside the Autobahn. 0.89

02:26:18.000 Best racetracks, best race cars, best highways was part of their deal.

02:26:22.000 Wow.

02:26:22.000 Well, that makes sense.

02:26:24.000 There was so much engineering that came out of that group of fucking psychos.

02:26:28.000 Yeah.

02:26:28.000 It's really amazing.

02:26:30.000 Oh, speaking of which, I read a book you'd love called Blitzed, Drugs of the Third Reich.

02:26:34.000 It was basically just about how much meth they were all on.

02:26:37.000 And it is nuts!

02:26:39.000 Of course.

02:26:39.000 Yeah.

02:26:40.000 Of course.

02:26:40.000 Yeah.

02:26:41.000 Dude, they've been on speed forever.

02:26:42.000 As soon as they figured out speed, people were on speed.

02:26:45.000 And they're giving it to the pilots and the soldiers, and Hitler had a speed... 0.85

02:26:48.000 He was doing speedballs like fucking John Belushi.

02:26:51.000 I mean, it was crazy.

02:26:53.000 Yeah, they always theorized that they had given the Japanese amphetamines to get them to crash into the planes.

02:26:58.000 Yeah.

02:26:59.000 Crash their planes into the boats, rather.

02:27:01.000 Yeah.

02:27:01.000 The kamikazes.

02:27:02.000 Yeah.

02:27:02.000 That was a thought.

02:27:03.000 Totally believable.

02:27:04.000 Meth them up and fucking send them to war. 0.99

02:27:05.000 There's a story in this book about at the very end of the war where they invented these single-person submarines.

02:27:13.000 Oh, my God.

02:27:15.000 The floating coffin.

02:27:16.000 And they sent these people out with like 10 tablets of meth and nothing else.

02:27:21.000 And this little submarine that had a little gun and like none of them came back.

02:27:24.000 I just can't.

02:27:26.000 Not that I have sympathy for Nazis, but messed up soldiers in death submarines, maybe a little bit. 0.74

02:27:33.000 Is that what it was?

02:27:34.000 That little thing?

02:27:35.000 I don't think it worked.

02:27:36.000 I think they tried a bunch of times.

02:27:38.000 Oh my god.

02:27:40.000 It's the fucking sketchiest shit ever.

02:27:42.000 Oh my god.

02:27:43.000 Yeah.

02:27:44.000 It doesn't get much sketchier than that.

02:27:46.000 There it is.

02:27:46.000 The one with the little bubble on top.

02:27:48.000 The German one-man thing. 0.95

02:27:49.000 Yeah.

02:27:49.000 The little bubble on top.

02:27:51.000 That's it.

02:27:52.000 The picture I saw had the bubble.

02:27:53.000 Somewhere in Colombia, there's a dude with a thousand pounds of coke in one of those right now.

02:27:58.000 He just got a great idea.

02:27:59.000 Making his way...

02:28:01.000 They had that video where they had the Coast Guard knocked on the submarine.

02:28:05.000 That was crazy.

02:28:05.000 They had a cartel sub.

02:28:07.000 You ever saw that?

02:28:08.000 They just knocked and said, open up?

02:28:09.000 Was it the Coast Guard that got the guys?

02:28:11.000 Yeah, they opened the door.

02:28:12.000 They were literally knocking on the top.

02:28:13.000 Did they open it up?

02:28:14.000 Yeah.

02:28:15.000 They jumped on top of a goddamn submarine and made the guys open the sub. 0.83

02:28:19.000 That's so crazy.

02:28:20.000 Bro, it is bonkers.

02:28:21.000 It's right out of a goddamn Steven Seagal movie.

02:28:24.000 It's crazy.

02:28:25.000 That's fucking so nuts.

02:28:27.000 They jump on top of the roof of this fucking submarine.

02:28:31.000 Holy shit, look at this!

02:28:32.000 Yeah.

02:28:32.000 See, so they're chasing him.

02:28:34.000 They're screaming.

02:28:35.000 Oh my god.

02:28:36.000 What?

02:28:38.000 Yo, this is the craziest shit ever, dude.

02:28:41.000 Dude, how crazy is this?

02:28:42.000 This thing's like, what, 25-foot-long sub?

02:28:44.000 Yeah.

02:28:45.000 So these guys are following behind it, and he jumps off!

02:28:49.000 Look at this bad motherfucker! 1.00

02:28:50.000 He jumps off!

02:28:51.000 Do you think this sub is capable of full submerging, or this is the closest to sub that it gets?

02:28:56.000 Not, it's probably full.

02:28:57.000 It probably can't go down like 100 feet, but maybe like 10. Holy fucking shit!

02:29:01.000 This dude straight up knocked on the door, and they opened it.

02:29:03.000 That's so crazy!

02:29:05.000 I need your search terms.

02:29:07.000 You are finding way better things than me on the internet, bro.

02:29:10.000 Who is taking subs and filling them up with coke and making their way to another country?

02:29:17.000 How many dudes are doing that?

02:29:19.000 They had that whole big ship in Philadelphia, that cargo ship that was supposedly owned by Chase, but had $200 or $400 million worth of cocaine on it.

02:29:27.000 Really?

02:29:28.000 There was one.

02:29:29.000 You know what the Paris to Dakar rally is?

02:29:32.000 It's a car race.

02:29:33.000 Cars like my Safari are built for that.

02:29:35.000 And there's race cars and there's race motorcycles and quads and stuff, off-road vehicles that do this very long off-road race.

02:29:43.000 And then there's these support trucks, right?

02:29:45.000 And they race the trucks, too.

02:29:47.000 So it's like these Kamaz and man trucks, big off-road tires, huge engines.

02:29:53.000 And the trucks are in the race.

02:29:54.000 And so these coke smugglers, the trucks, in the back of the truck is enough parts to like rebuild the whole car. 0.51

02:30:01.000 And the truck has a racing driver and a five mechanics crew and they chase the car and if the car breaks they fucking pull it over and set up a shop and rebuild the car, right?

02:30:10.000 But they're in the race too.

02:30:11.000 And so these coke smugglers bought one of these Dakar race trucks, did it up like the livery, and just like a couple miles after the start, just like entered the race. 0.92

02:30:23.000 And they entered the race with this truck fucking full of blow.

02:30:28.000 Oh my god, it's a movie.

02:30:30.000 And they got stopped like, I don't know, somewhere in the race.

02:30:33.000 They got arrested with this race truck full of coke.

02:30:37.000 What is this, Jamie?

02:30:38.000 It's El Chapo's Sub.

02:30:39.000 That's El Chapo's?

02:30:40.000 13,000 pounds of cocaine.

02:30:42.000 13,000 pounds, I'm sorry.

02:30:44.000 That's like seven and a half tons.

02:30:45.000 Wow.

02:30:46.000 That is crazy.

02:30:48.000 237 bales.

02:30:49.000 237 bales of coke!

02:30:50.000 Oh my god.

02:30:51.000 13,000 pounds.

02:30:53.000 Jesus.

02:30:54.000 This one was in Europe.

02:30:55.000 It had a hundred million pounds worth on it.

02:30:58.000 Oh my god.

02:30:59.000 These guys are just building this shit in there.

02:31:01.000 Tons and tons of them.

02:31:02.000 Yeah.

02:31:02.000 Reminds me of that movie with Ray Liotta.

02:31:04.000 No Escape.

02:31:05.000 They built the sub.

02:31:06.000 Ray Liotta and Kevin Dillon and that shit.

02:31:08.000 No.

02:31:10.000 Yeah, what was that movie?

02:31:11.000 No, I think it was No Escape when they're on the prison island and they build a sub to get out of there.

02:31:16.000 Can they still make movies like that?

02:31:18.000 I've seen some good movies.

02:31:20.000 You see Ford vs.

02:31:20.000 Ferrari?

02:31:21.000 Ford vs.

02:31:21.000 Ferrari's good.

02:31:22.000 I bet it's good.

02:31:23.000 It's good.

02:31:23.000 It's mostly factual.

02:31:25.000 It's not entirely perfect, but it's more accurate than Bohemian Rhapsody.

02:31:30.000 Do you remember Le Mans with Steve McQueen?

02:31:32.000 Yes.

02:31:32.000 Remember when he was driving in the beginning in that old-ass Porsche?

02:31:35.000 Yes.

02:31:35.000 That was exactly what we were talking about.

02:31:37.000 The guy was a race car driver.

02:31:39.000 The car he drives around is that old 911. That car sold for a lot of money.

02:31:44.000 The car from the movie.

02:31:45.000 It did.

02:31:46.000 Do you like Le Mans, the movie?

02:31:48.000 I don't remember it enough.

02:31:50.000 There's no speaking for the first 9 or 10 minutes.

02:31:54.000 It's weird.

02:31:54.000 But I think it's beautiful.

02:31:55.000 Because it really puts you in the mood of what it's like to be these people without saying too much.

02:32:02.000 They would do that in movies back then, man.

02:32:04.000 Yeah, the really slow-pacing, kind of quiet, sort of pensive thing.

02:32:09.000 You know what you should go and watch?

02:32:10.000 If you haven't seen it before, watch it again.

02:32:12.000 The Hustler.

02:32:13.000 Never seen it.

02:32:13.000 Jackie Gleason and Paul Newman.

02:32:15.000 No, I've never seen it.

02:32:15.000 It's amazing.

02:32:16.000 It's amazing.

02:32:17.000 For what reason?

02:32:19.000 First of all, it's the 1960s, like early 1960s, and you're seeing like this...

02:32:38.000 I think?

02:32:47.000 To New York City to meet this guy, the Minnesota Fats, and play him, because this guy's the best pool player in the world.

02:32:52.000 And so they play all through the night.

02:32:54.000 It's based on a...

02:32:55.000 Was it Robert Rosen?

02:32:57.000 It said Robert...

02:32:58.000 Yeah, you said Robert Rosen.

02:32:59.000 It's based on a very...

02:33:01.000 Did you say Paul Newman is in this?

02:33:03.000 Yes, that's Paul Newman, bro.

02:33:04.000 Oh, fuck it is.

02:33:05.000 Look at that.

02:33:05.000 Dude.

02:33:06.000 And Paul Newman plays Fast Eddie Felsen.

02:33:09.000 He plays the baddest motherfucker in pool.

02:33:10.000 He wants to come and play Minnesota Fats.

02:33:13.000 And Minnesota Fats is Jackie motherfucking Gleason. 1.00

02:33:16.000 And he's amazing in this movie.

02:33:18.000 He's so amazing, he's got two flowers on his jacket.

02:33:21.000 Bro, the other one's a tie or a hanky, rather.

02:33:25.000 I didn't realize that Paul Newman had multiple pool movies.

02:33:28.000 Well, this was the original.

02:33:29.000 And so what the Color of Money with Tom Cruise was, was Fast Eddie, who was again, Paul Newman, getting back into the world of pool.

02:33:39.000 Because at the end of this movie, spoiler alert, it's from the 1960s.

02:33:42.000 He retires.

02:33:43.000 At the end of this movie, he retires.

02:33:44.000 So he comes back with Tom Cruise.

02:33:45.000 But it's the same character.

02:33:46.000 Same guy.

02:33:47.000 Fast Eddie Felson.

02:33:48.000 Yeah, I've seen Color of Money.

02:33:49.000 But, you know, you're picking him up again now when he's 60. That's hilarious.

02:33:53.000 Yeah.

02:33:53.000 So, this young kid is talking shit, and he doesn't understand, because he's a really hot pool player today, but he doesn't understand that this guy in front of him is a legend.

02:34:02.000 Yeah.

02:34:03.000 Wait, I remember the name of his cue was the Balabushka?

02:34:07.000 Is that right?

02:34:08.000 Exactly.

02:34:09.000 Is that right?

02:34:09.000 Yeah.

02:34:10.000 Balabushka was the type of cue that he had, and because of this movie, This movie in particular, because they didn't mention it in the first movie, but it was pretty clear they were playing with a balabushka.

02:34:18.000 This movie, that fucking cue is worth a shitload of money now.

02:34:24.000 There's a lot of great pool cue manufacturers from that era.

02:34:28.000 I know you like crafts.

02:34:31.000 I do.

02:34:31.000 Totally.

02:34:32.000 In the world of pool, it's all about cues.

02:34:35.000 It's all about the type of hit you want, the type of wood that's used.

02:34:40.000 And balabushkas have a very specific kind of hit.

02:34:43.000 It's a very...

02:34:44.000 It's like there's an old-school feel to it that a lot of the players that have been playing most of their life love.

02:34:50.000 Company's still around?

02:34:51.000 No.

02:34:52.000 No, no, no.

02:34:53.000 If you're buying one now, it's going to be a shitload of money, man.

02:34:57.000 At this point, it's an art piece.

02:34:58.000 Would you play with it if you had one?

02:34:59.000 Some people do.

02:35:00.000 Some people do.

02:35:01.000 It's like a badge of honor.

02:35:02.000 You show up at a pool hall with a bow.

02:35:04.000 But it's not necessarily the best playing key.

02:35:06.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:35:06.000 That's like shotguns.

02:35:08.000 You know what I mean?

02:35:09.000 You get the art pieces and the vintagey stuff.

02:35:12.000 There's one right there for $22,000.

02:35:13.000 22 G's!

02:35:14.000 Fuck!

02:35:15.000 Yeah.

02:35:16.000 Wow.

02:35:17.000 Move in on that.

02:35:19.000 Let me see what that looks like.

02:35:20.000 Yeah, that looks like a published gun.

02:35:22.000 Oh, it's got the string on it.

02:35:23.000 So it has the original Cortland wrap and all those inlays.

02:35:27.000 That's Mother of Pearl. 0.99

02:35:28.000 That was all done by hand.

02:35:30.000 Probably ivory down at the bottom, right?

02:35:31.000 No, I don't think so.

02:35:32.000 I think that's a type of...

02:35:34.000 That might be ivory, actually.

02:35:36.000 If it's old enough, that's probably ivory.

02:35:37.000 It might be ivory.

02:35:38.000 It might be ivory.

02:35:39.000 You might be right.

02:35:40.000 22 Gs.

02:35:40.000 A lot of times they would use a plastic down there because you wanted something to be durable.

02:35:44.000 Yeah, you'd bounce it on the ground or whatever.

02:35:46.000 And they all used ivory that came from the pre-ban days because back then when they were making these things, people could go over there and shoot elephants just for their tusks.

02:35:58.000 Does that say ebony points?

02:36:00.000 What's it saying?

02:36:02.000 I don't know.

02:36:03.000 Ebony Sleeve.

02:36:03.000 That's crazy.

02:36:05.000 Gold bands.

02:36:06.000 Racetrack mop.

02:36:08.000 What is that?

02:36:09.000 I don't know.

02:36:10.000 Nameplate?

02:36:10.000 Okay.

02:36:11.000 Racetrack mop nameplate that's blank between...

02:36:13.000 I don't know.

02:36:14.000 You lost me, but that's pretty cool.

02:36:15.000 It's a blank between the mop dots and the diamonds.

02:36:18.000 Original Cortland map mostly falling off.

02:36:19.000 Two original...

02:36:21.000 George Balabushka Shaft's unusual feature.

02:36:24.000 It's a person's name.

02:36:25.000 Oh, yeah.

02:36:26.000 Well, they've had a bunch of those like that where people would buy them, they would order them, and he would engrave their name in it.

02:36:30.000 Yeah.

02:36:30.000 It sounds like a very shotgun-like thing.

02:36:33.000 Shotguns are similar like that.

02:36:34.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:36:34.000 Old ones with a lot of character.

02:36:36.000 The wood.

02:36:37.000 You go over there and you choose your wood, and it's the scroll work, and the barrel work, and all that crazy shit.

02:36:42.000 A good friend of mine makes pool cues.

02:36:45.000 They're called Sugar Tree. 0.77

02:36:47.000 His name's Eric Crisp.

02:36:48.000 He makes them all by hand.

02:36:49.000 I'll show it to you afterwards.

02:36:50.000 I'm sure you've got a dozen of them out here, right?

02:36:52.000 The way he makes things is super specific.

02:36:57.000 He's an art connoisseur if wood was an art.

02:37:01.000 So when he looks at a piece of wood, he doesn't think...

02:37:04.000 It's like a combination of knowing it'll make a good pool cue, but also wanting it to look a specific way.

02:37:10.000 They have all these gnarly knots in them, weird kind of colors of the woods, and just finds interesting grain.

02:37:16.000 It's like a...

02:37:17.000 It's just like guns, dude.

02:37:18.000 It's the same thing.

02:37:19.000 What does it say here?

02:37:20.000 That's cool.

02:37:21.000 Balabushka pool cues were reintroduced in the 1980s with the permission...

02:37:24.000 Yeah, but that's not real.

02:37:25.000 Yeah, once the movie came out, someone asked if they could license it.

02:37:28.000 Yeah, what happened was there was a company.

02:37:32.000 It's a decent cue, but it's not like a real Balabushka.

02:37:37.000 It's like a Shelby Cobra.

02:37:38.000 Right?

02:37:38.000 You can buy a replica Cobra, but the real one is the real one.

02:37:40.000 You might even like the way that one plays better.

02:37:43.000 I mean, there's people that like the way all kinds of different things play.

02:37:46.000 It might play better, but it's not.

02:37:48.000 You call it a Balabushka.

02:37:49.000 Balabushka's got to make it. 0.97

02:37:50.000 He's got to make it.

02:37:51.000 He's not alive.

02:37:52.000 Same thing, Cobras.

02:37:54.000 A brand new replica Shelby Cobra will probably drive a lot better than the ones they were racing at Le Mans in the 60s, but one is 50 grand and one is a million because one is real.

02:38:06.000 And to be honest, that wouldn't mean I wouldn't buy one of those newer Balabushkas either if I wanted a cue to play with.

02:38:12.000 No.

02:38:12.000 They all play good.

02:38:13.000 As long as you know what you're getting, it's fine.

02:38:14.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:38:15.000 The thing with cues is like with a lot of things, it's like if you see a pool cue, it doesn't even necessarily have to be anything fancy.

02:38:25.000 It's just you see if it's got nice wood and nice balance to it.

02:38:31.000 Can I look at this?

02:38:32.000 Yeah.

02:38:32.000 And you look at it.

02:38:33.000 Somebody's made that by hand.

02:38:34.000 Yeah.

02:38:35.000 Most likely.

02:38:35.000 Some guy crafted that on a lathe and figured it out.

02:38:39.000 With watches, too.

02:38:39.000 The difference between a $500 watch and a $5,000 watch and a $50,000 watch and a $500,000 watch is just further and further into the details.

02:38:50.000 That one watch that was good for 400 years, that's bananas.

02:38:55.000 And there's other ones like that.

02:38:56.000 I have a hard time with that.

02:38:57.000 I'm having a hard time with that.

02:38:58.000 Crazy math machines.

02:38:59.000 I love the crazy math machines.

02:39:01.000 There's watches that play chimes.

02:39:03.000 There's watches where you hit a button and a thing dances, like a cuckoo clock.

02:39:09.000 There's all kinds of crazy shit people do.

02:39:12.000 There's a genre of porno watches.

02:39:14.000 Have you seen the porno watches?

02:39:15.000 Where it's literally you hit a button and...

02:39:19.000 People start banging.

02:39:20.000 In front of you?

02:39:21.000 Like on the watch dial.

02:39:23.000 Like a hologram?

02:39:24.000 No, no, like a mechanical, animatronic couple starts fucking on the dial.

02:39:31.000 It's kind of hilarious.

02:39:33.000 But it's an entire genre of watches and they're very, very expensive.

02:39:36.000 Very hard to Google that.

02:39:39.000 What's that one I saw?

02:39:40.000 This one guy had one that was like a dome, and inside it was a planet.

02:39:43.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:39:44.000 That's called a Jacob Astronomia. 0.79

02:39:48.000 Anybody who wears that, you've got to be some kind of...

02:39:50.000 There are a million dollars.

02:39:51.000 You've got to be some kind of pimp to have a planetarium on your forearm.

02:39:55.000 So do you remember Jacob the jeweler?

02:39:56.000 That's him.

02:39:57.000 This is us.

02:39:58.000 This is the universe.

02:39:59.000 You can't wear one of those and have people look at you without...

02:40:03.000 You're being...

02:40:04.000 A little crazy.

02:40:06.000 So the astronomy...

02:40:08.000 It's like a fishbowl you put on your fucking wrist.

02:40:12.000 It's the weirdest thing ever.

02:40:14.000 And it's designed to...

02:40:15.000 So that's the mechanism that rotates around the fishbowl.

02:40:19.000 And it's got something called...

02:40:20.000 The thing that's flipping about is called a tourbillon.

02:40:23.000 And that is the time-regulating mechanism.

02:40:27.000 And the mainspring, which keeps it wound.

02:40:29.000 And then, as you can see, the actual clock itself rotates and stays vertical.

02:40:34.000 And then you've got this earth thing, and then you've got this big diamond that spin around, and it's a huge thing you wear on your wrist.

02:40:43.000 It's probably 48 or 49 millimeters, and it's like putting a fishbowl on your wrist, because it's got a big glass case over it.

02:40:50.000 That is so crazy to look at.

02:40:51.000 Yeah, that's what one looks like in person.

02:40:52.000 That is so crazy.

02:40:54.000 Look at it.

02:40:54.000 That's a million.

02:40:55.000 It's a million dollars.

02:40:56.000 Oh, so this one he's showing is the roulette wheel one.

02:40:58.000 No, it's got a roulette wheel in it that actually works.

02:41:01.000 You wind it up and it sends a ball and you actually can play roulette on the watch.

02:41:06.000 That's ridiculous.

02:41:07.000 It's called the Astronomia Casino.

02:41:09.000 Yeah.

02:41:09.000 Bat shit, right?

02:41:10.000 Imagine you lose your house.

02:41:12.000 Look, this one's an animated one.

02:41:14.000 It's an oil derrick that pumps.

02:41:16.000 So when they spin it, I'm sure he'll show it.

02:41:19.000 But look, yeah, the oil derrick.

02:41:21.000 So did somebody design this because they owned an oil company?

02:41:25.000 I'm certain that that is what happened.

02:41:26.000 They had it made?

02:41:27.000 Yeah.

02:41:27.000 Oh my God, that's amazing.

02:41:28.000 Yeah.

02:41:29.000 How much do you think it costs to make that?

02:41:30.000 It's probably a million dollars.

02:41:31.000 Of course it is.

02:41:32.000 It's gross, too.

02:41:33.000 I wouldn't even want to touch it.

02:41:34.000 No, it's not.

02:41:35.000 You don't want to wear something like that.

02:41:36.000 What are you talking about?

02:41:38.000 Why are you getting it?

02:41:39.000 That's crazy.

02:41:40.000 I don't know why I wouldn't get it, but like, if you...

02:41:45.000 I don't know why you'd get it.

02:41:46.000 You'd have to really appreciate the art of it.

02:41:48.000 Look at what the fuck is going on there.

02:41:50.000 Oh, it's a Moon Man floating.

02:41:52.000 That does look gorgeous.

02:41:53.000 Moon Man is floating.

02:41:55.000 I mean, you know, there's another company called MB&F, which is not as kind of...

02:42:03.000 Dumb, for lack of a better word.

02:42:05.000 It's just a little less flashy, and it looks like a fucking rocketeer, Trekkie space communicator, but it's all mechanical.

02:42:14.000 It's called MB&F, and they come out.

02:42:19.000 People are doing some real creative shit, Joe.

02:42:21.000 Oh, they really are.

02:42:22.000 That's the kind of shit that made Ted Kaczynski move to the woods and become the Unabomber.

02:42:26.000 He knew where all this is going.

02:42:28.000 People can't leave anything alone.

02:42:30.000 They have to innovate on everything.

02:42:33.000 It's kind of okay, isn't it?

02:42:35.000 Oh, it's really okay.

02:42:36.000 Look, it makes our life way more interesting.

02:42:39.000 There's worse things than innovating in a mechanical timepiece, right?

02:42:42.000 Oh, no.

02:42:42.000 It's amazing.

02:42:43.000 This is MB&F. That's fucking gorgeous.

02:42:46.000 Those two domes sort of spin around.

02:42:49.000 They make a couple different crazy ones.

02:42:51.000 Oh my god, that's beautiful.

02:42:52.000 Yeah, so they have these sort of real spacey kind of alien device type watches.

02:42:58.000 I mean, they're very expensive, but they're very...

02:43:00.000 That is so gorgeous.

02:43:02.000 Let me see that again.

02:43:03.000 That is so pretty.

02:43:04.000 The one with the four is really crazy, too.

02:43:06.000 What is that?

02:43:07.000 Yeah, so you can see on the left is the hour and the right is the minute.

02:43:11.000 That's like a scale, an old-timey scale at Grandpa's house.

02:43:13.000 That one, this is my jam.

02:43:14.000 That's the space jam right there.

02:43:16.000 What is that?

02:43:17.000 It's just crazy fucking watchmaking, dude.

02:43:20.000 What is that?

02:43:20.000 Yeah, it's space machines.

02:43:22.000 How does that work?

02:43:22.000 Back that up.

02:43:24.000 What is that?

02:43:25.000 What the fuck?

02:43:25.000 So that one, you see the bottom left...

02:43:29.000 You better have a phone if you want to know the time.

02:43:31.000 Yeah, this shit ain't for telling the time, bro.

02:43:33.000 No, it's not.

02:43:34.000 This is for telling everybody that you run shit.

02:43:36.000 That is the craziest thing to have on your body.

02:43:38.000 Right?

02:43:39.000 You got a house on your body.

02:43:40.000 So in this one, the entire clock moves around the diamonds.

02:43:45.000 Of course it does.

02:43:46.000 Yeah, why wouldn't it?

02:43:47.000 Why wouldn't it?

02:43:48.000 Of course it does.

02:43:49.000 Spin, bitch. 1.00

02:43:50.000 I mean, you know, it's all real crazy.

02:43:52.000 The round one is very cool.

02:43:54.000 The concentric one, yeah.

02:43:56.000 Look at that.

02:43:57.000 It looks like a UFO. That one on the right-hand side that you just had, Jamie.

02:44:00.000 What is that?

02:44:01.000 This?

02:44:01.000 No, no, no.

02:44:02.000 The blue one?

02:44:02.000 Sorry.

02:44:03.000 The blue one that you just had?

02:44:04.000 Yeah.

02:44:04.000 So that's concentric rings.

02:44:06.000 What is that?

02:44:07.000 The rings are concentric.

02:44:09.000 So you see the line on the bottom?

02:44:10.000 So it's 5.52 is the time there.

02:44:14.000 Or 4.52, excuse me.

02:44:15.000 What is in the center?

02:44:16.000 Is that a squirrel?

02:44:17.000 In the center is the tourbillon.

02:44:19.000 That's the mechanism that powers it.

02:44:22.000 There's other watches.

02:44:23.000 Have you ever heard of an HYT watch?

02:44:26.000 No.

02:44:26.000 HYT watches are fucking nuts because they're powered by bellows and liquid.

02:44:33.000 So they tell the time.

02:44:34.000 Yeah, give me one where you can see some of the liquid.

02:44:37.000 How do you know so much?

02:44:38.000 I didn't study this shit.

02:44:39.000 Wait, no, that's not a good picture, Jamie.

02:44:40.000 What are you talking about?

02:44:41.000 Stop! 1.00

02:44:42.000 That thing's dope as fuck. 1.00

02:44:43.000 No, no, bottom left.

02:44:43.000 I want to show the liquid specifically.

02:44:45.000 So that one right there, that.

02:44:46.000 Yeah, we did this one before, I think.

02:44:47.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:44:48.000 So the liquid fills up and moves around the face as the time goes.

02:44:53.000 And these bellows move.

02:44:55.000 So you see the bellows in the middle there?

02:44:57.000 Oh, yeah.

02:44:57.000 It's pumping the liquid around the fucking clock face.

02:45:01.000 I feel like you've shown this to me before.

02:45:02.000 Maybe.

02:45:03.000 That one seemed familiar when I saw them.

02:45:04.000 Yeah, yeah, the liquid ones.

02:45:05.000 So those are like $40,000, $50,000, $60,000.

02:45:08.000 It starts getting real crazy with the liquid shit.

02:45:10.000 That's such crazy balling.

02:45:12.000 That skull one.

02:45:13.000 72 G's.

02:45:14.000 That skull one's pretty goddamn dope.

02:45:17.000 Axl Rose is sponsored by this company.

02:45:19.000 Of course he is.

02:45:19.000 It's perfect.

02:45:20.000 If I was an angry rock and roll guy.

02:45:22.000 Perfect, right?

02:45:22.000 I'm not saying that Axl is, but you know, you've got angry style.

02:45:25.000 That's a perfect thing, right?

02:45:26.000 Yep.

02:45:27.000 It's a perfect Axl Rose watch.

02:45:28.000 I mean, you wouldn't recommend it to James Taylor.

02:45:31.000 In my mind.

02:45:32.000 Like, you know what I'm saying?

02:45:35.000 Yeah, I know.

02:45:35.000 Some people couldn't, like...

02:45:37.000 Takes a certain type.

02:45:37.000 Yeah.

02:45:39.000 But if you wanted to get into some really next-level weirdness, that's a good way to do it.

02:45:42.000 What is that?

02:45:43.000 What's that box?

02:45:43.000 It's a digital watch.

02:45:44.000 What the fuck is that?

02:45:46.000 A PS2 wrist drive scuba pro?

02:45:49.000 That's a dive computer.

02:45:51.000 Oh, fuck.

02:45:52.000 It's a scuba diving computer.

02:45:54.000 Oh yeah, that one right there is the MB&F Legacy Machine Perpetual.

02:45:58.000 So this round one, right?

02:46:00.000 One to the right, Jamie.

02:46:01.000 Diving makes me feel the same as reverse Alex Honnold.

02:46:05.000 That's what diving makes me feel the same.

02:46:06.000 I'm like, get up!

02:46:08.000 Get up!

02:46:08.000 Get the fuck out of there!

02:46:09.000 This one does the same shit as the first one I showed you.

02:46:11.000 It counts the date and stuff for like 400 years, but it just does it in a prettier, crazier way.

02:46:16.000 Oh my god, that's so beautiful.

02:46:17.000 Yeah.

02:46:18.000 See, this is what I'm fascinated by, that somebody and some group of people, obviously it's not like one wizard, and they're doing it at multiple companies all around the world, and they're innovating, and they're competing with each other to make cooler and weirder shit.

02:46:32.000 And all this stuff is, I guess it's a watch, but it's way more than just a watch.

02:46:39.000 Sorry, Jamie.

02:46:39.000 Go back to that weird spaceship one that was...

02:46:44.000 Yeah, the one in the middle.

02:46:46.000 Yeah, right there, right there.

02:46:47.000 That one.

02:46:47.000 Space communicator watch!

02:46:49.000 That is so crazy!

02:46:51.000 Look at that thing! 0.99

02:46:52.000 That's not really a watch.

02:46:53.000 This one's cool.

02:46:54.000 It's mechanical, but you read it from the side like that.

02:46:58.000 It's very space communicator.

02:47:00.000 Yeah, it's cool.

02:47:01.000 It's something different.

02:47:02.000 It's something different than a watch.

02:47:04.000 It's like that Singer DLS, right?

02:47:06.000 They take this old, the old way, and they evolve the old way as far as they can.

02:47:11.000 So these watches have amazing materials, like really interesting alloys they make for stuff.

02:47:18.000 A lot of these companies make their own alloys, which is really interesting.

02:47:22.000 Look at this thing.

02:47:23.000 So cool, man.

02:47:24.000 What is that?

02:47:26.000 It looks like what we thought a spaceship was going to look like in the 1950s.

02:47:30.000 Yeah.

02:47:31.000 And it's a watch.

02:47:32.000 Yeah.

02:47:32.000 Doesn't that kind of look...

02:47:33.000 Yeah, it's like the movie The Rocketeer.

02:47:36.000 It reminds me of The Rocketeer's rocket.

02:47:38.000 Yes.

02:47:39.000 Yes.

02:47:39.000 It's totally like that.

02:47:41.000 Yeah.

02:47:42.000 Oh, my God.

02:47:42.000 Like, you know how Elon's only seen Spaceballs?

02:47:44.000 Like, this dude's only seen The Rocketeer.

02:47:47.000 God, that's so beautiful.

02:47:48.000 Yeah.

02:47:49.000 This shit's incredible, dude.

02:47:51.000 Most people will think you're a weirdo for wearing it, but if you wore something like this to a watch nerds gathering, they'll think you're the king of the universe.

02:47:58.000 You walk in something like this.

02:47:59.000 I'm going to a watch nerd gathering after this.

02:48:02.000 Are you really?

02:48:03.000 There's a Grand Seiko party.

02:48:04.000 They announced the new watch.

02:48:06.000 Oh, the Godzilla watch?

02:48:07.000 The Godzilla watch.

02:48:09.000 Which, I don't really like car watch co-brands.

02:48:14.000 I think the connection is obvious enough.

02:48:16.000 You don't need to shove it in my face.

02:48:18.000 But I'm still going to go to the party.

02:48:19.000 It's a car watch co-brand?

02:48:21.000 Yeah, Godzilla is the Nissan GT-R, not the movie monster.

02:48:24.000 So it's a cross-branding with the Nissan GT-R and the Grand Saco.

02:48:29.000 Oh, I got confused.

02:48:30.000 I thought it was like an anniversary thing for Godzilla.

02:48:33.000 I think it's the Nissan GT-R. Oh, so that Godzilla.

02:48:38.000 That Godzilla.

02:48:38.000 Oh.

02:48:39.000 Well, it looks dope.

02:48:40.000 It does look dope.

02:48:41.000 Oh, wait, it might actually be the movie Godzilla.

02:48:44.000 65th anniversary.

02:48:45.000 Maybe it is this fucking 65th anniversary.

02:48:47.000 They came out with a Nissan GTR watch like months ago, so maybe I just got confused.

02:48:51.000 Oh, no, no, no, no.

02:48:51.000 You did.

02:48:52.000 I remember the GTR watch was like a chronograph.

02:48:55.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:48:55.000 It's like a bunch of different little, yeah.

02:48:57.000 That's what I get for not doing my homework.

02:48:59.000 I guess it is the movie monster anniversary.

02:49:01.000 My bad.

02:49:01.000 It looks like it's like a dinosaur skin.

02:49:04.000 Yeah.

02:49:05.000 The leather skin.

02:49:06.000 Yeah, see that one, GTR 50th, that was like a couple months ago, so sorry.

02:49:11.000 Their finish quality is amazing.

02:49:14.000 Let me see that Godzilla thing again. 0.99

02:49:15.000 Did you do the thing I told you about the reflections on the back of the hands?

02:49:19.000 No, I didn't look.

02:49:20.000 So Grand Seiko, their finishing on the back of the hands is as good as the finishing on the front of the hands.

02:49:25.000 And if you reflect a light certain ways, you can get it to reflect on the dial.

02:49:29.000 It's really cool.

02:49:29.000 That thing looks wicked.

02:49:30.000 Yeah.

02:49:31.000 They make a nice watch.

02:49:32.000 Well, they have really pretty design.

02:49:34.000 Whoever is designing their stuff, it's very...

02:49:36.000 That's a weird thing about watches or anything that someone makes.

02:49:39.000 It's like, what appeals to the eye?

02:49:42.000 Like that TGT Studios clock, see that thing?

02:49:45.000 This thing?

02:49:46.000 That's awesome.

02:49:46.000 Yeah.

02:49:47.000 It's something that appeals to the eye.

02:49:48.000 It's a piece of art that also tells you the time.

02:49:51.000 But there's something about it, like the way it's shaped, the way it's formed.

02:49:55.000 It makes you want to look at it.

02:49:56.000 It's interesting.

02:49:57.000 Well, really, the very best watches, you just stare at them sometimes.

02:50:02.000 Like, your watch, I love...

02:50:03.000 Is yours a spring drive?

02:50:04.000 Yeah.

02:50:04.000 Yeah, so the spring drive with the super smooth hand sweep...

02:50:07.000 I'm pretending I'm diving.

02:50:08.000 You don't need to be diving to wear a dive watch.

02:50:10.000 I'm diving, bro.

02:50:10.000 I gotta dive.

02:50:11.000 You never know.

02:50:12.000 If shit hits the fan, I want a waterproof watch.

02:50:14.000 No, you just get your shit wet all the time, probably, right?

02:50:17.000 Between the tanks and the sweating and the washing your hands and whatever.

02:50:20.000 It's definitely gonna get wet occasionally.

02:50:21.000 Yeah, I mean, a dive watch isn't for people who dive.

02:50:24.000 It's for people who just get their hands wet a little bit.

02:50:25.000 Tell that to a diver.

02:50:26.000 They want to piss in your mouth right now. 1.00

02:50:28.000 Fuck you, bro.

02:50:28.000 I'm a diver.

02:50:29.000 I'm a scuba diving instructor.

02:50:30.000 Are you really?

02:50:31.000 Yeah.

02:50:31.000 You teach people how to dive?

02:50:32.000 I can.

02:50:33.000 I did in my early 20s.

02:50:34.000 Now I do this.

02:50:36.000 You gave me a diver pass.

02:50:38.000 Yeah.

02:50:38.000 I'm good.

02:50:39.000 Shazam.

02:50:41.000 I absolve you.

02:50:42.000 Dude, I'm terrified of the ocean.

02:50:44.000 Why?

02:50:44.000 Getting in that water with all those fucking things that move better than you.

02:50:47.000 Yeah, but most of them don't care about you.

02:50:50.000 Most of them, you're just looking at them.

02:50:51.000 That's the key word, isn't it?

02:50:52.000 Most of them.

02:50:54.000 I went to the Galapagos this year and I saw hammerhead sharks while snorkeling.

02:50:58.000 It was rad.

02:50:59.000 Nothing cuter than a baby hammerhead. 1.00

02:51:01.000 Like this big.

02:51:02.000 Amazing.

02:51:03.000 Like a foot long.

02:51:04.000 It was the cutest thing ever.

02:51:05.000 But like, yeah, I can see how the ocean is big and dark and scary.

02:51:09.000 Dude, it's terrifying.

02:51:10.000 Yeah, I know.

02:51:11.000 I still get a little nervous when I go in the ocean.

02:51:13.000 You should be scared.

02:51:15.000 You can't move good.

02:51:16.000 There's monsters in there.

02:51:18.000 They're real.

02:51:19.000 I know.

02:51:19.000 This is what I always say about sharks.

02:51:21.000 If there was a werewolf, and the werewolf came out every full moon, and every full moon, if you were outside your house, you got murdered.

02:51:32.000 You just got ripped apart.

02:51:33.000 It happened to one person every full moon all across the land.

02:51:38.000 Yeah.

02:51:39.000 People would be like, fuck, man, I'm not going out on a full moon.

02:51:42.000 Okay.

02:51:43.000 Sharks are like werewolves, but they're werewolves every day of the year. 0.95

02:51:48.000 I don't think shark attacks are that common.

02:51:50.000 Because they don't see you, and you're not supposed to be there.

02:51:53.000 So they're not accustomed to you.

02:51:55.000 If they were accustomed to you, like if we lived in the water with sharks, do you think the moral duty that sharks have to be good neighbors who keep them from eating us?

02:52:03.000 If we were just everywhere in the water all the time and sharks figured it out, we'd be like, oh, we could just eat them.

02:52:08.000 Yeah.

02:52:09.000 Let's just eat them.

02:52:10.000 They're just dumb.

02:52:11.000 They don't know they're supposed to eat us.

02:52:12.000 They have a narrow thing in their eye of what they're supposed to be eating.

02:52:16.000 Yeah, I don't think they like us.

02:52:17.000 I don't think they want to eat us.

02:52:19.000 They're just not accustomed to it.

02:52:20.000 Their focus is...

02:52:22.000 When they bite people, don't they spit them out a lot?

02:52:24.000 They rarely finish a human.

02:52:26.000 You see them, they take a limb.

02:52:27.000 They don't finish a human.

02:52:28.000 I saw Jaws, dude.

02:52:30.000 In Jaws, they finish people, and there was also fucking license plates and shit.

02:52:35.000 Remember?

02:52:36.000 Oh, yeah, they eat trash.

02:52:37.000 Yeah, they'll eat anything.

02:52:38.000 Yeah, yeah, they'll eat trash. 0.86

02:52:39.000 They'll eat your asshole. 0.86

02:52:40.000 They eat everything.

02:52:41.000 Yeah, but they probably wouldn't eat two license plates in a row.

02:52:44.000 They might.

02:52:44.000 I don't think they think.

02:52:46.000 I think they're just eating machines.

02:52:48.000 I don't know any better, but I don't think there's any evidence that sharks are like wizards.

02:52:53.000 They're really smart and clever.

02:52:55.000 Like, dolphins are clever as fuck.

02:52:56.000 Orcas are clever.

02:52:57.000 We know.

02:52:57.000 Sharks are just these murderers.

02:52:59.000 Just...

02:53:00.000 With a continual row of teeth.

02:53:03.000 Yeah.

02:53:03.000 The teeth fall out, new one pops in, bang, like a rotor.

02:53:07.000 But I don't go diving where there's fucking great lights.

02:53:10.000 Dude, they're everywhere!

02:53:11.000 I mean, yeah, I guess.

02:53:12.000 You don't go into a neighborhood, they can just decide to go to your neighborhood.

02:53:15.000 It's like if you were camping on a giant campground.

02:53:20.000 And out there in that campground, wolves were tearing open fucking tents and pulling people out and eating them alive.

02:53:26.000 Would you feel like, well, they never come up here.

02:53:30.000 They're literally chumming that shark.

02:53:32.000 They're feeding that shark in that image.

02:53:34.000 It's a real thing, dude.

02:53:35.000 They brought in a werewolf.

02:53:37.000 This is what I'm saying.

02:53:38.000 It doesn't matter.

02:53:39.000 If you had a fucking cage and it could put you in the middle of the woods and your friend ties a lamb to the outside of the cage so you could see the werewolf in real life and it looks like American werewolf in London.

02:53:49.000 That's that!

02:53:50.000 I know.

02:53:51.000 That's the same thing!

02:53:51.000 I don't go fucking shark diving.

02:53:52.000 What do you want from me?

02:53:53.000 Stay out of the ocean, please.

02:53:54.000 Do me a favor.

02:53:55.000 I like the ocean.

02:53:56.000 Look at those teeth. 0.56

02:53:57.000 I know.

02:53:57.000 I'm so scared for you.

02:53:58.000 I know.

02:53:59.000 I go, what about, Joe, don't you go walk, what about mountain lions?

02:54:02.000 You go walking in the woods with your fucking dog and shit.

02:54:04.000 I bring a knife, I'm such a pussy.

02:54:05.000 I'm trying to pretend that I'd be able to stab some mountain lion and get it off of me.

02:54:09.000 I dive with a knife.

02:54:09.000 My dog would try to make friends with the mountain lion.

02:54:13.000 He's so nice.

02:54:14.000 You know what he barks at?

02:54:15.000 Hilarious.

02:54:15.000 The only thing he barks at.

02:54:16.000 Is what?

02:54:17.000 He barks at when people have a Santa Claus on their driveway.

02:54:21.000 He's like, what the fuck is that?

02:54:24.000 He's never seen, you know, he doesn't know what the fuck they are, right?

02:54:28.000 He doesn't see, that's like a normal thing for him to see.

02:54:30.000 Like a glowing Santa Claus?

02:54:31.000 So we're walking, we're walking, and I take him to the trail, and I open up the back to let him out.

02:54:37.000 He jumps out onto the sidewalk, and looks at this guy's fucking, this guy's fake snowman, and starts barking.

02:54:45.000 Oh my god.

02:54:46.000 And then he just goes, oh my god, I'm an idiot.

02:54:48.000 Really?

02:54:49.000 He realizes it's just some fucking thing that's not really a person, and then he just runs up the hill.

02:54:54.000 I got kittens a couple months ago, and one of them just learned that he was fighting himself in the mirror, which was a really fun 20 minutes to watch him figure that out.

02:55:05.000 When they chase their own tail, it's fucking genuinely hilarious.

02:55:08.000 There's something about watching a kitten just spin around their own tail.

02:55:11.000 They're dumb as fuck, but they're so fun.

02:55:12.000 I love my kittens.

02:55:13.000 It's such a little drug.

02:55:15.000 It's so joy-inducing to watch a kitten just spin around.

02:55:18.000 Dude, I don't watch TV. I have four cats in my house, and all I do is, like, what are the cats doing?

02:55:22.000 And just watch what other cats are doing.

02:55:23.000 It's constantly entertaining.

02:55:25.000 Do you know the video with the cat and the two crows, where the crow and the two cats, where this crow instigates a fight between these two cats?

02:55:37.000 No, this sounds awesome.

02:55:38.000 The crow lands on the roof, like real close to a cat, and he's like, what?

02:55:41.000 And the cat moves at him, and he flies away real quick, and he comes back, and then he flies over to the other roof.

02:55:47.000 Oh, this is a different one where they're doing it.

02:55:49.000 And he causes the two cats to fight each other?

02:55:52.000 That's amazing.

02:55:53.000 They fuck with the cats and they get them close to each other and watch them fight.

02:55:57.000 That's like the Don King of birds.

02:55:59.000 Yes.

02:55:59.000 They do it all the time.

02:56:00.000 They like doing it.

02:56:01.000 That is so funny.

02:56:03.000 So they instigate fights.

02:56:03.000 So there's this one.

02:56:04.000 They literally pick on them and get them worked up so they'll fuck up the other cat.

02:56:08.000 Bro, that's so funny.

02:56:10.000 There was one where these cats were on the roof.

02:56:12.000 There's probably a hundred of these videos.

02:56:14.000 They're really clever.

02:56:16.000 You've seen, like, the videos of...

02:56:17.000 I know what you're talking about.

02:56:18.000 It's just not coming up.

02:56:19.000 You've seen the videos of crows.

02:56:21.000 Is it crows or ravens that can use tools?

02:56:24.000 They can use tools...

02:56:26.000 Wait, can I ask a practical question?

02:56:30.000 This is a really interesting topic, but what is the legal thing with playing a clip from YouTube on this podcast?

02:56:35.000 We can't.

02:56:36.000 Nobody's looking at that.

02:56:36.000 They're seeing us.

02:56:37.000 We can't use the clips.

02:56:39.000 That's why we're not...

02:56:39.000 Oh, got it.

02:56:40.000 Sorry.

02:56:41.000 You can't use other people's shit. 0.71

02:56:43.000 They'll take you down. 0.73

02:56:43.000 I completely understand, but in my show, I sometimes show images in the feed, and so I was wondering if you were doing that or not. 0.73

02:56:51.000 You can, but people will try to claim...

02:56:52.000 You can show images.

02:56:53.000 I'll give websites credit.

02:56:55.000 I want to promote the website.

02:56:56.000 But if you have someone else's stuff on your feed...

02:57:00.000 Crow's using compound tools.

02:57:02.000 What is a compound tool?

02:57:04.000 It explains that here, so...

02:57:05.000 Took two things and made it a better tool.

02:57:08.000 Oh shit, really?

02:57:09.000 Yeah, dude.

02:57:11.000 Yo, we're fucked.

02:57:12.000 They figured out at one point in time how to take one tool and use it to get a second tool that was bigger and use that second tool to get food.

02:57:20.000 So they figured out using a tool to get a tool to use a tool.

02:57:23.000 But now they're figuring out how to make tools, bitch! 1.00

02:57:26.000 They're connecting things together, son.

02:57:28.000 That's bonkers.

02:57:29.000 They're smart.

02:57:30.000 We started that too at Monkeys back in the day.

02:57:33.000 We figured out a compound tool.

02:57:35.000 As much as I love cats, cats are not that smart.

02:57:38.000 They're not that smart.

02:57:39.000 No, that's okay.

02:57:40.000 Those little fuckers are sneaky. 1.00

02:57:41.000 They pick fights.

02:57:42.000 I had a cat that could open doors, which was interesting.

02:57:48.000 Were you ever getting in on when the cat jumped in?

02:57:50.000 This is the one.

02:57:51.000 This is the one.

02:57:52.000 So go right to the beginning, because in the beginning you see the crows on the roof with him, fucking with him.

02:57:58.000 See?

02:57:59.000 The very beginning of it.

02:58:00.000 It's okay.

02:58:01.000 Just play it from there.

02:58:03.000 See how the crow takes off?

02:58:04.000 So he was fucking with him.

02:58:06.000 And then he flies over to the other one.

02:58:07.000 See?

02:58:08.000 And he's like, what's up, bitch? 1.00

02:58:09.000 You gonna let this fucking pussy hang out over here on this roof right next to you? 1.00

02:58:13.000 And he starts getting close to him and riling him up and flying away when the cat gets close.

02:58:18.000 And then he goes back again to the other cat and fucks with him.

02:58:20.000 He gets him riled up and then he flies away.

02:58:24.000 And he goes back to the other cat and he flies away.

02:58:26.000 And he keeps doing it until they're on edge.

02:58:29.000 Because he's a little cunt. 1.00

02:58:30.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:58:31.000 That's so smart.

02:58:31.000 And so then he flies away, and then the cats are looking at each other.

02:58:34.000 And so he starts fucking with the cats, and now the cat's getting more and more angry.

02:58:38.000 Like, he's starting a fight between these two cats.

02:58:41.000 He's actually pushing the cat towards the other roof.

02:58:43.000 Look at that.

02:58:43.000 Holy shit, that's crazy.

02:58:45.000 He made that cat jump up.

02:58:46.000 And this fucking bird is just over here like, yeah, yeah, get him! 1.00

02:58:49.000 Oh my god.

02:58:50.000 They fall off the fucking roof.

02:58:51.000 The bird follows him down.

02:58:52.000 Hanging on each other in the snow.

02:58:54.000 Bro, this bird is having a good time.

02:58:56.000 Dude, that bird is evil.

02:58:58.000 That bird is so evil.

02:58:59.000 That bird is having his own kitty cat fights to the death.

02:59:02.000 Oh my god, look at these guys going down a hole!

02:59:04.000 Oh shit!

02:59:05.000 Bro, you should just be commentating this shit.

02:59:08.000 This is a fucking crazy fight.

02:59:13.000 That is awesome.

02:59:14.000 My cat, Conrad, my 15-year-old boy chased a fucking stray out of our yard yesterday like a boss.

02:59:20.000 Cats are sneaky, man.

02:59:22.000 They're smart little fuckers and they carry some creepy diseases. 1.00

02:59:25.000 Maybe they're paying them back for killing all their friends.

02:59:27.000 Could be.

02:59:27.000 Eight million birds a year or whatever it is.

02:59:29.000 Oh, billions.

02:59:30.000 Oh, dude, my cats have fucked some birds up. 0.95

02:59:32.000 Yeah, well, they said that they didn't have any idea.

02:59:34.000 I remember what the number was.

02:59:36.000 Excuse me, I don't remember what the number was, but it's in the billions.

02:59:39.000 And they were stunned.

02:59:40.000 They had no idea.

02:59:41.000 They ran some sort of a scientific study.

02:59:43.000 And using this study, they examined all of the...

02:59:46.000 I'm good, dude.

02:59:47.000 Mike Tyson's really good at weed.

02:59:49.000 Turns out.

02:59:49.000 I flashed this up.

02:59:50.000 This was taken in Northridge a week ago.

02:59:53.000 What is that?

02:59:53.000 It's a mountain line on someone's roof.

02:59:55.000 Oh, fucking hell.

02:59:56.000 Dude, fuck that.

02:59:56.000 Apparently, there's two of them.

02:59:57.000 What?

02:59:58.000 In Northridge?

02:59:58.000 Two on the roof at the same time?

02:59:59.000 Yeah.

03:00:00.000 Oh my god, that's so crazy.

03:00:01.000 Hide your kids, hide your wife. 1.00

03:00:02.000 Yeah.

03:00:03.000 Well, they're looking for dogs and cats.

03:00:05.000 One of the things they found out when they killed them in San Francisco, in the Bay Area, they have real problems up there sometimes.

03:00:10.000 Especially some of those homes that, like, sort of like we have Malibu, where the mountain lions live real in close proximity with the people.

03:00:18.000 So they do these stomach examinations.

03:00:20.000 They find it's like half dogs and cats.

03:00:22.000 Well, the cat that I said that could open doors and shit, he wanted nothing more than to kill one of my other cats.

03:00:29.000 He was a Russian Blue, had three legs, and he was really, really smart.

03:00:32.000 We adopted him, and we tried for like six months to make it work.

03:00:36.000 We tried everything.

03:00:37.000 Everything you could think of to make it work.

03:00:38.000 You brought a criminal into your home.

03:00:40.000 Exactly.

03:00:40.000 And I didn't know.

03:00:41.000 And we rehomed him with my brother-in-law and his wife.

03:00:44.000 And he got along with the dog and was having the best time and chill.

03:00:48.000 But he thought he fucking ran shit.

03:00:50.000 He thought he owned the neighborhood.

03:00:52.000 And he ended up getting eaten by a mountain lion.

03:00:56.000 Yeah.

03:00:56.000 Three legs versus a mountain lion.

03:00:58.000 R.I.P. Morgan.

03:00:59.000 Smartest, fastest three-legged animal you've ever seen, but fucking...

03:01:03.000 Yeah, and mountain lion won.

03:01:05.000 Maybe he's a little cocky for his own good.

03:01:06.000 A thousand percent.

03:01:07.000 He thought he ran shit.

03:01:08.000 That's hilarious.

03:01:09.000 Imagine the moment when you realize that that's a giant you.

03:01:14.000 Like, you know, you think you're this bad motherfucker because you could jack most animals, and then you realize, oh my god, this is a 140-pound me.

03:01:21.000 Yeah, yeah.

03:01:22.000 Fuck this.

03:01:23.000 It was never seen again.

03:01:24.000 Bro, we're so weird that we let those things just wander around us.

03:01:27.000 We're so weird.

03:01:28.000 I always think it's really strange that I live with another species in my house. 1.00

03:01:31.000 I think about that very often.

03:01:32.000 I mean mountain lions.

03:01:33.000 Oh, yeah.

03:01:34.000 As opposed to what?

03:01:35.000 Like exterminating them?

03:01:36.000 Fucking holocausting them? 0.99

03:01:37.000 Killing them.

03:01:37.000 All of them.

03:01:38.000 Genocide.

03:01:38.000 I don't advocate that.

03:01:39.000 Don't get me wrong.

03:01:41.000 I don't advocate that.

03:01:42.000 I don't think we should kill them.

03:01:43.000 All I'm saying is it's really interesting that we have this thing that we sort of agree rarely, rarely kills people, but it does sometimes, and we want to keep it around.

03:01:53.000 Sounds an awful lot like the sharks, bro.

03:01:55.000 And we also have to acknowledge that they're running out of shit to eat.

03:01:59.000 You know?

03:02:00.000 Are they?

03:02:02.000 Not a thing?

03:02:02.000 Listen, man.

03:02:03.000 When was the last time you saw a deer?

03:02:07.000 Fairly recently, but not often.

03:02:10.000 Not here.

03:02:11.000 It's pretty rare, even if you live where deer are.

03:02:15.000 Growing up in the suburbs of New York, I used to see deer daily.

03:02:18.000 Do you think deer are on the pill?

03:02:20.000 No.

03:02:21.000 What do you think's going on?

03:02:23.000 I've lived in a city and I haven't paid attention to the deer in the suburbs.

03:02:25.000 I'll tell you what's happened, man.

03:02:27.000 Cats.

03:02:28.000 They've moved in and started jacking deer.

03:02:30.000 And coyotes moved in and started jacking deer.

03:02:32.000 Cats are fucking up deer?

03:02:33.000 Big cats.

03:02:34.000 Oh, mountain lions.

03:02:35.000 Bobcats are fucking up deer.

03:02:38.000 Everybody's fucking up the fawns.

03:02:39.000 Everybody's fucking up the babies.

03:02:41.000 So when the babies are born, they have zero chance.

03:02:45.000 These big fucking, big wild dogs.

03:02:47.000 Coyotes are a dog.

03:02:48.000 Is that everywhere or just California?

03:02:49.000 Just like outside of L.A.? Mostly around us.

03:02:52.000 If you go to, like, Iowa, they have too many deer.

03:02:55.000 Like, you'll be driving during the run.

03:02:57.000 So why are we hunting deer and not mountain lion?

03:03:00.000 Well, you can't hunt mountain lion in California.

03:03:02.000 They don't have...

03:03:03.000 Is there a predatory cat that you should hunt?

03:03:07.000 I mean, I don't know.

03:03:08.000 You can give...

03:03:09.000 Well, see, the thing is, the people think that you need to control their population, and this is where the argument gets real interesting, because it branches off between people that are very much animal advocates, animal rights first.

03:03:22.000 They want animals to rule and to be able to have their own freedom on their land and Whatever happens, happens.

03:03:29.000 Like mountain lions killing deer and all that kind of stuff.

03:03:32.000 Let it all take place.

03:03:33.000 We shouldn't interfere with that and we shouldn't hunt.

03:03:35.000 There's people that really think like that.

03:03:37.000 They have their arguments and they have their reasons but the reality of animals is if you have large predators and the large predator runs out of things to eat, it's either going to go further and enter into new areas looking for food and it might get hit by cars or it's going to branch out Start eating pets.

03:03:58.000 It's going to expand its range.

03:04:00.000 And in expanding its range, it's going to find a farm, or it's going to find a dog in the backyard.

03:04:06.000 It's going to find something, because it's just trying to get food.

03:04:09.000 And how many of those are we willing to have around us?

03:04:12.000 I'm not saying that we should kill mountain lions.

03:04:14.000 I think it's wonderful that they live.

03:04:15.000 Are they endangered?

03:04:16.000 No, not really.

03:04:17.000 So why can't we kill them?

03:04:18.000 They hunt them in other parts of the country.

03:04:20.000 Oh, okay.

03:04:21.000 The only time California kills them really is when they get what's called a depredation order.

03:04:27.000 If someone has something happen, like if you run a farm and a mountain lion starts killing your livestock, which does happen.

03:04:33.000 A lady in Malibu a few years back had a, I think it was an alpaca farm, and this fucking mountain lion killed a ton of them.

03:04:43.000 It was just killing them.

03:04:44.000 They seem easy to kill, though.

03:04:45.000 I think it killed a goat, too.

03:04:46.000 I think it was just getting a kick out of killing things, you know?

03:04:49.000 It was just fun.

03:04:50.000 But they said it wasn't even eating him, which was really nuts.

03:04:53.000 That's strange.

03:04:54.000 I think he couldn't get it out, you know?

03:04:56.000 It's probably a really big animal.

03:04:58.000 And he couldn't get it out, and he probably didn't feel comfortable enough to eat it while he's in there.

03:05:02.000 So he's probably really confused.

03:05:03.000 Oh, he killed him all at once?

03:05:04.000 Oh, shit.

03:05:05.000 Well, I think it was over a couple of days, but it was kind of a killing spree.

03:05:10.000 Pull up a Malibu fucking mountain lion.

03:05:15.000 He just killed for fun.

03:05:17.000 First of all, when you think about Mal, do you really think about an alpaca farm?

03:05:21.000 No.

03:05:21.000 Well, no, I think of that in Topanga.

03:05:23.000 Right, right, right.

03:05:25.000 And if you did think about one of them, you wouldn't think about it.

03:05:27.000 I just drove here, by the way, over Topanga.

03:05:29.000 Someone, it seems, is building a house that's like a dome that they're going to put dirt over.

03:05:36.000 Did you see this?

03:05:37.000 It's up at the top of the hill in Topanga facing the beach.

03:05:40.000 A dome?

03:05:40.000 Yeah, like, okay, so picture a facade, a flat facade with a bunch of windows, brick, and then it just kind of ends, and then there's this concrete kind of three-quarter dome that comes out from behind it.

03:05:53.000 And they're covering, when I drove by, they were covering the dome with this sort of tarpy waterproofing layer, and it looked like they were going to then move Earth and build a mountain over the dome, so your home would be sort of inside this man-made mountain.

03:06:10.000 It's a fucking hobbit house. 1.00

03:06:11.000 It seemed kind of odd.

03:06:13.000 What if somebody off-roads on your roof and it crushes your house and you don't even know?

03:06:17.000 That could be a problem.

03:06:18.000 That would suck.

03:06:19.000 You don't want to live underground.

03:06:22.000 What are you, a rat?

03:06:23.000 I don't know.

03:06:23.000 It seemed weird, but it was very interesting.

03:06:25.000 It seems fire-resistant if the whole neighborhood catches on fire.

03:06:28.000 Are you a gopher, bro?

03:06:31.000 Why are you living underground?

03:06:32.000 If you had to live in the air, underground, or underwater?

03:06:36.000 Oh, underground, for sure.

03:06:37.000 He's right.

03:06:38.000 He's right.

03:06:38.000 Is that it?

03:06:39.000 No, so that's a geodesic dome.

03:06:41.000 This is sort of, it's a flat facade.

03:06:43.000 Whoever lives there believes in crystals.

03:06:45.000 It's not built yet.

03:06:46.000 It's like half built, but that's pretty fucking cool.

03:06:48.000 Go back to that picture.

03:06:49.000 Whoever lives in there for sure believes in chanting.

03:06:52.000 Yeah.

03:06:53.000 Crystals.

03:06:53.000 They call the corners regularly.

03:06:55.000 Look how pretty it is.

03:06:57.000 I mean, but the idea of living in a fun shape like that is cool.

03:07:00.000 It would make your life more interesting.

03:07:03.000 For sure.

03:07:04.000 If only I lived in a dome, everybody would like me.

03:07:08.000 But how long do you think you could live like that?

03:07:10.000 I don't know.

03:07:10.000 Some weirdo fucking art house before you're like, let me just have a house house.

03:07:14.000 Like, you don't need...

03:07:15.000 You want to sit in a house house.

03:07:18.000 There's an art house right near me that's a very famous architect.

03:07:21.000 I think it's Frank Gary's art house.

03:07:23.000 And it's a terrible use of space, but it literally has...

03:07:27.000 Like a tree house.

03:07:28.000 Like a box on a post.

03:07:31.000 Just floating above the house.

03:07:33.000 And there's like little stairs that go up there.

03:07:35.000 And there's just a dining room table for two.

03:07:37.000 In the air on a post.

03:07:39.000 That's bonkers.

03:07:39.000 Get out of there.

03:07:40.000 It doesn't seem particularly convenient to live in.

03:07:42.000 But sometimes you're into those, you know, you gotta have that designer house.

03:07:46.000 Yeah, what if it got hit by an asteroid?

03:07:48.000 Oh my god, a direct shot?

03:07:50.000 The luck would be unbelievable.

03:07:54.000 God telling you, get the fuck out of here. 0.99

03:07:56.000 You shouldn't have bought an art house.

03:07:58.000 Get the fuck out of here with your art house, bro.

03:08:01.000 I'm approaching my pee limit.

03:08:03.000 Okay.

03:08:03.000 Three and a half.

03:08:04.000 Well, we're at 6.30.

03:08:05.000 We could wrap this bad boy up and bring it home.

03:08:07.000 I'm really proud of myself for not peeing during the show.

03:08:09.000 It was a goal.

03:08:10.000 And I did three bottles of fucking water, too.

03:08:12.000 I was worried.

03:08:13.000 I had to pee before the show.

03:08:15.000 I know.

03:08:15.000 Twice.

03:08:16.000 Respect.

03:08:17.000 Thank you for having me.

03:08:18.000 Always a good time, man.

03:08:19.000 Always a good time.

03:08:19.000 I really appreciate it.

03:08:20.000 I enjoy geeking out with you.

03:08:21.000 It's been very fun.

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03:08:34.000 Thank you, Joe.

03:08:35.000 What a pleasure.

03:08:35.000 Thank you, sir.

03:08:35.000 Always a pleasure.

03:08:36.000 Thanks, Jamie.

03:08:37.000 Bye, everybody.

03:08:38.000 Woo! 0.99

03:08:39.000 That was great, man.

03:08:40.000 Thank you so much.

The Joe Rogan Experience - December 06, 2019

Joe Rogan Experience #1394 - Matt Farah

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