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00:05:09.000Like that Kimbo fact, the famous one with the satellite dish in the backyard.
00:05:13.000It was the same spirit of, all right, we're going to punch each other's fucking face, but watch out for that thing.
00:05:19.000You know, I still get asked about Kimbo all the time.
00:05:21.000He's like the number one fighter I get asked about.
00:05:24.000When I do weird radio stations, yeah, like if I don't know the people and I call up and they start talking about fighters, almost always, whatever happened to that Kimbo slice?
00:06:21.000And I think if you're in a situation like a boxing situation, they would take a guy who's a prospect.
00:06:26.000And people who would be intelligent people that were thinking about the future would invest time and money in this guy and slowly build him up.
00:06:32.000Slowly give him the fights that he needs to make him look good, the fights that he needs to test his wrestling.
00:07:45.000There's a decision where you've got to test him, you've got to see what happens, and then there's the other school of thought where, no, you've got to make sure that you know exactly what level he's at, and know exactly what level the opponent's at, so you can ensure that he's going to have a long career, or you can ensure that he develops properly.
00:08:00.000How do you break that down in your head?
00:09:14.000Why do you think there was a big difference between when he fought in Pride and when he fought in the United States?
00:09:19.000I think that, and Jace can speak to this too, I think the experience of getting famous and the pressure that comes with winning big fights is a lot.
00:09:42.000Either you're going to go make it or you're not.
00:09:44.000We're going to find out real quick, and this is why we all get so excited about it.
00:09:48.000That is one way to look at it, but the other way to look at it is that if a fighter wanted to develop to his utmost, the best way to do it would be to engineer it.
00:12:02.000And we thought that he was going to go win that fight, too.
00:12:04.000So you start to look at who's the matchup's going to be, how those styles match up against each other, upside and downside, and weigh it out.
00:12:10.000Same King Mo when he fought in Sengoku the first time.
00:12:14.000Took a fight against Travis Few on six days' notice.
00:12:17.000Well, I knew what Mo was capable of, and Travis Yu wasn't a dangerous threat on his feet.
00:12:22.000He wasn't going to submit Mo from his back, go out there and shoot a double leg.
00:12:25.000In my mind there, the worst case scenario was, okay, he'll have a boring fight and he'll be labeled a boring wrestler.
00:12:32.000But for what they paid him a lot of money for that fight, risk or reward, it made a lot of sense.
00:12:37.000It's also hard for guys when they first break in from other sports, too, right?
00:12:41.000I mean, how hard is it for a guy like Mo, who comes in from wrestling and is, you know, just elite, at an elite level of wrestling, and then now all of a sudden he's got to deal with striking, now all of a sudden he's got to deal with shit that maybe he's not as good at, you know, as his key moves, you know?
00:17:57.000Brody pretty much got sick when he was performing, and he decided to take medicine to help strep throat and a couple things, and he stopped taking his other medicine, which was Lexapro.
00:18:09.000And he came back to the United States, was still sick, still taking antibiotics, but wasn't taking his medication, and then started to go on the...
00:18:18.000He went on TMZ and hosted TMZ for a week, or a day.
00:18:26.000He took over Harvey's spot for the day.
00:18:28.000And then, the next day, he was having all this positive energy about being on tour on TMZ. And he started to, like, go to people at Starbucks that were angry or mean or had negative energy and would call them out on their shit.
00:18:41.000And then there was a video where he called out a gangbanger kid that was hanging out in front of 7-Eleven scaring girls.
00:18:47.000And so there's a video of him filming, like, using his phone, filming, like, hey...
00:18:54.000He was pretty much attacking negative people.
00:18:57.000And what happened is it got kind of spinned out of control.
00:19:00.000He was having a manic episode and he got committed into a hospital.
00:19:35.000No, because what I said is that if I was at Starbucks and you just started talking to me saying, hey, I like your shoes and stuff, I might not have said what made him go crazy, what the guy said to him, which was, please don't talk to me.
00:19:45.000I would have said, like, you know, kind of amused it for a while and then stopped talking or, you know, kind of ignored him.
00:19:50.000But he, it was very interesting to listen to and now he's on, changed his medication and now he seems like a very relaxed, like, kind of like he's dissecting himself character.
00:20:02.000We did this really cool interview today.
00:20:37.000I have a theory about human behavior in general when it comes to that.
00:20:40.000I think one of the reasons why we're so unstable, I think it's almost engineered to make sure that we keep moving and that more things get done.
00:20:47.000Because I think that when things are stable and when people are at rest and at peace and calm, not much gets done.
00:21:39.000But I think that we're programmed to do that.
00:21:41.000No, but I'm saying that bad stuff, you're going to hit the lottery sometimes, but you just got to power through and just drive through this negative stuff, this negative stop on your road.
00:21:50.000I'm convinced one part of self-destruction, not the whole part, that one part is if you're not growing or progressing in life, you do something to create that chaos where you have to do something to break through.
00:22:02.000You and I have had that conversation a couple of times before, and I always admire the way you see it.
00:22:07.000And it really is that you will set yourself up.
00:22:11.000You will give yourself shit to think about.
00:22:13.000Now, what you do with that is depend on, do you crash like you're friended, or do you use that for awareness and growth and your life goes to a new place?
00:22:23.000If you think you stop growing, you're going to fuck yourself.
00:22:26.000If you say, this is it, I'm done, I'm just not even going to think about things anymore, I'm not going to try, I'm just going to relax, and you're going to get cancer.
00:24:49.000A friend of mine from Colorado, our friend Ash, Casey Atchison, just sent us a picture of a mountain lion that jacked a deer near his house.
00:24:57.000I know, but that happens all the time.
00:24:59.000150 pound cat and a dead thing that runs way faster than you or I. Watch his face, Ryan.
00:25:04.000He's so into it when he's talking about it.
00:25:06.000Like he gets so, he like views, he can see the claws coming at him.
00:25:21.000When you're actually there with the animal, there's one thing like watching DVDs when you're baked, that's important, you know, it's huge.
00:25:27.000But watching real animals, like a real animal in person when you're high, you get a completely different insight.
00:25:35.000When you actually see a tiger, it's right there, and you're looking at it, and you're looking at its paws, and you're looking at its body, and you're thinking of an American house cat.
00:25:43.000And how fucking badass those little things are.
00:25:46.000I mean, if a 25-pound house cat wanted to kill you, you'd be terrified.
00:28:45.000I got there right when people were yelling and screaming, though.
00:28:49.000Alligator came up and jacked this lady's dog.
00:28:52.000Apparently it probably happened like an hour before I got there.
00:28:53.000You know what's crazy about alligators is that they're such a good form of life that that same basic pattern of evolution has been there forever.
00:31:25.000But I'm saying with special effects and cameras will be so cheap, film will be so cheap, hard drives will be so cheap, computers will be so cheap, and the programs that are publicly available to regular amateurs for making movies and putting in special effects are going to eventually get to this incredibly heightened state where you're going to be able to make a fucking Avatar movie on your own.
00:33:27.000That show is the best ever on social commentary right now because they do it six days out.
00:33:34.000most amazing dudes in show business in my opinion yeah i agree plus they just won nine ten uh uh tony awards and the only reason i know what a tony award is because of these guys is a broadway musical award yeah and they won nine of those i'm like man those guys are geniuses they're brilliant they're brilliant and i and i it's crazy because they they've been like a little team for so long yeah you know since like since college days so those guys have just been linked into each other's brain for so long and they got just such a good partnership that they you know they don't fuck each other over on anything it's It's crazy, man.
00:34:39.000That was how hard I was laughing at that movie.
00:34:41.000I was like, this is the best movie of all time.
00:34:43.000Yeah, I'm really interested though with South Park to see what they're gonna do this season because the last one of the last season was like Like almost it felt like the last episode.
00:34:57.000They were divorcing one car Stan was moving out of South Park and they just made the whole episode seem like it was over really yeah Maybe they're getting bored.
00:36:51.000When someone's been cautious the whole film, and there's more inconvenience seeing where the guy gets to get him because he's turned his back to him like a noob.
00:37:59.000I think what could have been real interesting is towards the end, he could have started having psychotic episodes where he woke up at different stages of his life, at We're good to go.
00:42:14.000I think some people, I've seen it happen more than once.
00:42:17.000Some people, whatever it is, whether it's alcohol or drugs, there's some things that they take that make them snap over and they're Gonsville.
00:42:26.000You see that glassy-eyed look in their eyes?
00:50:23.000A dude that I work with, I'm sorry, a dude that I work with, this is gonna, I gotta, before I forget, this guy, his mom died from fucking Tylenol.
00:50:35.000She died because she was taking Tylenol, which has like whatever the fuck the chemical it has, and it also exists in some other cold medication that she was taking.
00:50:43.000She was taking the two of them at the same time, and she had fucking liver failure.
00:52:14.000I feel like it's like a mild Adderall.
00:52:16.000Like, I don't feel like I'm on anything, but I feel so focused and...
00:52:20.000I have to reveal, though, that there's been a few people, a very small number, most people, like the vast majority, over 90% of all the tweets and emails I get are positive.
00:52:52.000Yeah, I said, listen, this is the highest quality shit, and we get it from the best manufacturers, we put it in a really well-calculated form, but steal it.
00:53:48.000And that was after training for two hours.
00:53:51.000People don't want to believe in it, and that's fine.
00:53:53.000And there's a lot of people that say there's no science behind it.
00:53:54.000But there's a science paper on the site that shows, with references, it's a medical editorial written on the efficacy of this alpha brain stuff.
00:55:51.000I think recently, because you gave me that new bottle, because I was out for like two weeks, and for those two weeks, I was starting to feel icky again, and then I've been taking it nonstop.
00:56:00.000I just hope it doesn't get put on a PEDs list.
00:57:07.000It's supposed to be really good for your immunity.
00:57:10.000I take a bunch of different things just knowing that I'm going to go on the road a lot.
00:57:13.000I'm going to be around a lot of icky things.
00:57:17.000So I take a lot of probiotics, but I also started taking these chaga mushrooms because I read up on them, like how good they are, how many health benefits of mushrooms.
00:58:14.000You know, because it's in the refrigerator, it's supposed to be like the highest count, blah, blah, blah, whatever, you know, different types.
00:58:19.000I'm like, alright, you know, I'm not even going to do any research.
00:58:21.000I'm just going to pop one, pop one a day and see what the fuck is up for a hundred bucks.
00:58:26.000But like a hundred bucks for a bottle of, like, not even a big bottle.
00:58:29.000Wait, how many times was, oh, how many bottles?
00:58:54.000And to just juice all your food, everything's real-life vegetables.
00:58:59.000And people have done juice fasts and stopping on...
00:59:02.000This guy did it in the movie, 60 days with only, like, he had a portable, like, juicer and stuff, and then he met people on the way, and then he met this trucker that was, like, bigger than Joey Diaz, like 400, and he started doing, he's like, look, just do this for 10 days, and next thing you know, it was just, like, people were dropping weight.
00:59:23.000You know, I can feel a lot of, I mean, I tell anybody, if you can do that, you know, it takes a lot of time and a lot of devotion to, like, grind up all your food into juice, you know, and it helps if you've got a girlfriend.
00:59:32.000Do you think that you should juice it or do you think you should use that Vitamix thing?
00:59:36.000Yeah, the Vitamix blender, it's basically like juicing it, but you're also maintaining all the stuff from the back.
01:00:47.000From the press juicery, there's a place that they use some sort of a crazy hydraulic cold press, something that's better than grinding it up.
01:00:55.000No, but she drinks like the Walmart juice.
01:00:57.000His little girl drinks the Walmart juice.
01:02:19.000And for a lot of dudes, it's like 2am, they struck out at the bars, and then they're like, let's see if we can get over to the steak and cheese place.
01:06:53.000No, he does jiu-jitsu and he choked out heffron like five times in a row and he was talking about on his podcast how ashamed he was because it was the little kid from Jerry Maguire.
01:09:47.000What I say is you get them with your focus and your intent and with the economy of words so that they don't have to work too hard and know exactly what you're saying.
01:09:57.000You project what you're thinking into their head and then it's like you operate their mind.
01:10:03.000They allow you inside their You take them on a journey.
01:12:01.000You wouldn't bark like a dog, you know what I'm saying?
01:12:05.000I think different people have different definitions, first of all, for hypnosis.
01:12:09.000There's other people that they'll describe hypnosis as as just putting someone in a very relaxed state where they're receptive to information.
01:12:16.000and you can talk to them in a more balanced way than you can when they're up and hyper and looking at you and looking around.
01:12:24.000And so the idea of hypnosis, it's not like they're not conscious.
01:12:38.000And that even though they're aware of everything, they're still being hypnotized.
01:12:42.000I don't know what the official definition of it is, but I have seen people that are absolutely hypnotized and believe that there's things that are going on in one of those hypnosis comedy shows that...
01:12:54.000There's things that are going on around them and they can't control it and they can't stop it and they come in their pants.
01:12:59.000I've seen them thinking that there's monsters in the room.
01:14:21.000So it's like, there's almost like some people, they're programmed in a certain way, where there's just a door open, and you can just open that door and get inside.
01:14:29.000We have newer operating systems than that.
01:16:02.000But what I'm saying is they don't try to reach outside of their sport and make commercials on TV. When was the last time you saw a commercial for Ferrari in a magazine?
01:19:13.000Have you ever considered getting, like, a real, like, luxury-style car, like a Cadillac or something like that, where you would just drive slow, like one of those big-ass Cadillacs?
01:19:22.000Yeah, I mean, I just like people driving me around, so I'm glad I lost.
01:19:26.000Yeah, I'm like, whatever, just drive me.
01:21:06.000Joined up real easy because my old man was in it and, like, I grew up in the Army, you know?
01:21:11.000So I, like, I feel, like, real connection to dudes in the Army and I'm, like, in the Marines and the Air Force, whatever.
01:21:17.000I'm just, like, I see how you got to live to be in that.
01:21:21.000You should be able to do whatever the fuck you want to do in this life, but it is kind of weird when you see those crazy video game commercials about joining the Marines.
01:21:29.000You know, when you go, wow, that's like really influencing the shit out of kids.
01:21:33.000Yeah, or the video games that they make.
01:21:35.000That's like Call of Duty, but they make it, and they have an army game.
01:29:16.000Unfortunately, I started when I was 15, and I think the first couple years was more of just like I was smoking because I was in high school, and me and my friend would go to his house during lunch break and just smoke cigarettes.
01:29:25.000But it wasn't like I needed to smoke cigarettes, but it was kind of like we just did it because we were in high school.
01:31:00.000Yeah, and anything that is very, very difficult.
01:31:04.000I always think about that as fights as poetry for the actual act of living life.
01:31:09.000If you look at each individual fight, it has a story.
01:31:13.000If you break it down frame by frame, and you do that for your job, if you really think about it, a lot of it is, we get so used to it and desensitized to it, but every fight has a little story in it.
01:31:25.000That's what makes Mixed Martial Arts really interesting to me.
01:31:29.000Because everything you do, your life can play out in just this exact particular way as a fight.
01:35:13.000You have to do this dance before you go into the ring, and you want to do the dance, and it's like, you know, I mean, it's cool when you see it.
01:35:19.000But explain the music while the fight's going on.
01:35:21.000Okay, yeah, three minute rounds, okay, the whole time.
01:35:24.000It's like the cafe scene from Star Wars music.
01:36:28.000This is exactly the song that he had on the tape.
01:36:30.000He had a tape, not a fucking CD, a tape of this music playing three minutes and then in the middle of the rounds, you know, the one minute rest period, was Everybody dance now!
01:38:38.000The other guy apparently pushed him at the weigh-ins and got in his face and said a bunch of crazy shit, and so Buakal said he was going to punish him, and he told everyone.
01:38:46.000So he did his Y crew pretending he was shooting arrows, so he's doing his little pre-fight dance.
01:39:15.000You see the experience of Bukha, how he would fade back when the dude was attacking?
01:39:19.000The guy was coming after him with punches, but he would just fade back and then knees, fade back and then knees, tie him up, bang, knees to the body, knees to the body.
01:39:27.000He's like flippy knees where his fucking hip turns and just digs his knee into the side of your rib cage.
01:39:32.000The torque and the fucking technique that that guy has, man.
01:39:36.000And then he just started chopping homeboy's leg.
01:40:05.000The hybrid is bound to happen in mixed martial arts.
01:40:07.000Do you think that for a young fighter who's developing, it's important to have just straight grappling matches and just straight kickboxing matches?
01:40:38.000If you were competing every day, it would be so much easier.
01:40:42.000Of course, your body wouldn't be able to withstand it, but mentally it would be so much easier than if you're competing once every six to nine months.
01:40:50.000It's not enough to really get you going.
01:40:52.000Yeah, well, don't most fighters have their best fights when they have a fight and then a short layoff and then another fight?
01:40:57.000It's like you barely break camp, you relax a little bit, and then boom, you're already conditioned and you hop back in.
01:41:02.000Actually, being consistent as a fighter is one of the most important things.
01:41:06.000If you're just consistently training, you never really fall off.
01:41:10.000Like, you get back in the room, and you work on things, and you actually have a roadmap to go somewhere at the end of this little special set of camp.
01:43:39.000I mean, look at Cody McKenzie and his fucking guillotine.
01:43:42.000You know, he might never be able to beat elite-level guys, but that guy catches his fucking arm underneath your chin.
01:43:47.000He's put 11 dudes out with that shit, and he catches guys.
01:43:50.000He's got a weird, crazy guillotine where he goes under it, and then he squeezes it and turns it up and presses against it like this and just fucks you up, man.
01:43:58.000And he's got that shit down laser tight.
01:44:00.000It's funny when a guy's got one move like that.
01:45:21.000I broke my thumb before and had to turn it around backwards and kept fighting.
01:45:25.000Yeah, I smashed my hands and just keep punching with the same hand.
01:45:28.000Do you worry about if something like the Tim Sylvia thing happened and you got kicked on it again that your arm might even have to be amputated?
01:45:34.000Bro, at the time, you did not care about anything.
01:49:34.000And if you're going to have a guy come in and talk shit to the other guy, how about you let the other guy have his fucking speech first and you inform him that he's going to be talking to this other guy afterwards.
01:49:41.000And this is just marketing and trying to set up a fight.
01:49:43.000They just didn't have control of the cage.
01:49:45.000And then all of a sudden this one guy gets jumped by a bunch of fucking wild dogs and it's your fault?
01:51:55.000Imagine if Larry Merchant just fucking arm dragged him, took his back, snapped a fucking rear naked choke on him, and just rolled forward with the hooks in, stretches him out.
01:53:08.000It started in, like, 94 or 95. I remember I had AOL. I was a member back when I was on the old UFC, when I worked for the old UFC. So that was, like, 97 or 98, I became a member.
01:55:53.000They're going to have a storyline will play out, and then the people will be warming up, waiting for the storyline to end, and boom, we go right into the fight.
01:56:11.000I feel like during my experience, and people are going to watch it on Spike right now, is that the fight picking and the strategy of it is a big, cool part of the show.
01:56:22.000I think fans should be able to vote what they think is going to happen.
01:57:22.000You know, for people that can fucking handle it and enjoy it, it's a real pain in the ass, man.
01:57:26.000It's a real pain in the ass so you can't just bet on fights.
01:57:29.000Because it makes it much more interesting, even with your friends.
01:57:32.000Like, if you watch fights with your buddies, do you ever bet, like, I'll bet, I got five bucks on this dude, even if you don't even know him, you're watching a Tough Enough or something like that.
01:58:12.000We're involved in three different fucking wars right now.
01:58:14.000The economy is based on unfixable bullshit that nobody understands.
01:58:18.000The whole idea of what America is supposed to be is in decline.
01:58:23.000Well, I know, but if you keep a positive mental attitude and try to affect change in any way you can, you're feeding into the solution and not the cause.
01:59:49.000We're at this fever pitch of technology, and the human animal, and it's all ridiculous bullshit that it drags along with it, is lagging behind.
02:00:03.000Something along those lines is going to happen.
02:00:04.000It just seems to me that that's inevitable.
02:00:06.000That our integration is so fucking complete as it is, without it being a part of our actual physical body, you leave your fucking cell phone at home, and it feels like you left your dick in a jar.
02:00:15.000I think it's going to be to the point where plastic surgery is going to be like taking out your eye and upgrading your eyes with the new night vision eye and stuff like that.
02:00:23.000You're going to just start replacing parts in your body.
02:00:34.000Yeah, but if there's money to be had in it, it'll probably exist, as long as it can be patented.
02:00:37.000The real issue is when things are awesome and people are scared of them and they're not patentable, like plants that are psychedelic plants, and that's the reason why those things are illegal.
02:00:46.000Because if psychedelic plants were just a result of some fucking formula that someone figured out in a lab and he had a patent on it...
02:00:52.000Well, by Jiminy Cricket, that shit would be available to prescribe for someone if they had some sort of an ailment.
02:00:57.000Because there's a fuckload of money to be made from, you know, MDMA for post-traumatic stress disorder.
02:01:02.000If that shit was, if somebody had created that and owned it and it hadn't been demonized, it would be for sure something that they would make a shitload of money off of.
02:01:11.000Psychedelics are coming back in medicine now.
02:01:20.000Terminally ill patients given one dose of mushrooms one time, still 12 months later had significant benefits for accepting what's going on with them.
02:01:28.000People have had cancer and taken ayahuasca and the cancer has gone into remission because they believe that it's completely altered the way they look and think about their body.
02:01:36.000It allows their body to naturally heal itself and to be relaxed to the point where its immune system can function correctly.
02:01:42.000Ayahuasca is this orally active form of DMT. We talked about it so many times in this podcast, but for the people who don't know what it is, in the jungles of South America, they figured out a way to take the leaves of one plant, which contain DMT, and the vine of another plant, which contains an MAO inhibitor, which makes DMT orally active.
02:02:11.000He said it was interesting and cool, but what I've heard from people, especially from McKenna, used to talk about how when you go down to South America, they have to really trust you before they dose you up.
02:02:22.000Like, they don't want some crazy gringos running around howling at the moon, so they give you, like, weak doses.
02:02:27.000And he was saying that as the tourism of these ayahuasca communities become more and more prevalent, as more and more people go down to have this experience, there's a lot of people that are having bad trips, and there's a lot of people that are wary about the gringos.
02:02:38.000So they come in, and you come in with a fucking camera crew, and you're like, hey, I want to try this ayahuasca, and you've got a ring on your thumb, you know, like poor Dane does, they're going to look at you, yeah, yeah, yeah, give them some weak-ass shit, you know?
02:03:56.000Yeah, you just convert and just take some DMT and sing songs about Jesus.
02:04:01.000That sounds like a weekend right there, bro.
02:04:03.000Well, apparently they have really strong stuff too.
02:04:06.000I have a friend who did it and went through the whole experience and said it's so bizarre.
02:04:10.000He said, first of all, everyone's wearing uniforms.
02:04:12.000They wear like the same clothes and they're wearing uniforms and they're taking this really strong DMT brew and they're singing songs about Jesus.
02:04:20.000Instead, it's like, what the fuck is going on here?
02:05:26.000You know, this is one of the things I want to talk to you about before we were talking about why I like to live in the woods.
02:05:31.000You know, why I like to live, like, way the fuck away from people.
02:05:33.000I believe that one of the best reasons why you take ayahuasca in the jungle is that you are in this place where the energy of the plant and the experience, it all comes from this one spot.
02:05:47.000And that one spot doesn't have a lot of Wi-Fi signals, it doesn't have pollution, it doesn't have...
02:05:52.000This doesn't have cell phones fucking flying through your ear and radiation.
02:07:47.000Well, there's a thing called the fire break system that you can set up on roofs now.
02:07:50.000And what it is, is when a certain heat is reached, they disperse this chemical all over your roof that makes the house much less vulnerable to fire.
02:07:58.000So you've got to set things like that up.
02:07:59.000If you're going to live in the woods, you've got to clear out the area all around your house and make sure that you've got the fucking most powerful fireproof windows available.
02:13:32.000There's some crazy technology involved in it, and I don't know if we have a full assessment and accounting of all the technology that the government or that anyone at the highest level of science really possesses right now.
02:13:44.000I don't necessarily know, especially when it comes to military intelligence.
02:13:46.000And I think we've always had a lot of secrets in this country, and it's very likely that there's things that can produce crop circles, like they can shoot down a fucking laser beam on a certain patch of earth and create a pattern in the sand or in the wheat fields.
02:13:58.000I don't think that's beyond the realm of possibility.
02:14:00.000If you could have nuclear weapons, if you could have international instant communication via cell phone networks and data plans where you could send photographs and videos to another person on the other side of the fucking world almost instantaneously, I don't think it's beyond the realm of possibility to think that you could somehow or another imprint something from a satellite, from something flying overhead.
02:14:47.000I mean, when I say hoaxes, we know, I mean, they're human-created works of art, not a mystery whatsoever.
02:14:52.000And these human-created works of art, they've done, like these guys called the Circle Makers, they've got a website called circlemakers.org.
02:14:58.000Yeah, they just crushed down Yeah, well, they have boards, and they measure things, and they do these dope-ass designs.
02:15:03.000But what they've done is question and shown that you can make these crop circles on your own.
02:16:00.000It's not something you can't bang off.
02:16:02.000You can't bang off these giant things inside of an hour or whatever the fuck these people are saying.
02:16:08.000So if they're telling the truth, then it could possibly be something else.
02:16:11.000It doesn't necessarily have to be just always people flattening boards out.
02:16:15.000And I know there's a lot of other science behind it, in quote science, because they've detected there's growth nodes and areas where the stems of the plant have actually exploded like it had been microwaved.
02:16:26.000And then instead of just being bent over, these things have had some almost boiled with energy.
02:16:32.000You're saying there are symptoms, like sometimes it does that?
02:16:35.000Yeah, I wouldn't say symptoms, I would say evidence that points to the fact that this is all shit.
02:16:41.000By the way, hold on, this is all shit that I've read on the internet, so I have no idea how much of this is 100% legit.
02:16:46.000But the idea is that what people question about the crop circles, the so-called crop circle...
02:16:51.000Experts and aficionados, one of the things they point to is the fact that there's an actual change in the chemical structure of the plant once it's been turned into this circle.
02:16:59.000That something has happened to it and it's been heated up.
02:17:01.000Like I said, it could be some sort of technology.
02:17:05.000Look, say if you wanted to etch something with lasers onto a piece of metal.
02:17:11.000You could program a design into a computer and that computer could etch something.
02:17:15.000And if you had a laser big enough and powerful enough, it could be as big as my Doom poster.
02:17:19.000You could make some design with a laser in that, just using a computer.
02:17:25.000Why couldn't you do that from a satellite down on some fucking wheat field?
02:17:29.000It would be just as possible, I think.
02:17:31.000If you've got the potential to do it at close range, and then we know there's a lot of shit that we do at long range, and we also know that lasers, you know, a powerful laser doesn't really lose its power over a long distance, right?
02:18:10.000At a certain point in time, you gotta look at things that we absolutely know people have done.
02:18:14.000There's a goddamn space station up there, and they shoot rockets filled with people, and they go up and dock with this thing, and everybody's hanging out there and partying in the space.
02:18:23.000As bizarre as that is, shooting people in giant metal tubes propelled by fire up into the sky to dock with some floating metal fucking machine that's up there.
02:18:33.000So you think the government has just, like, protected us from ourselves?
02:18:36.000Like, we don't want you to know about this awesome crop circle machine?
02:18:39.000I think there's a lot of things that they do on the sneak tip, like drones, and, you know, there's bugs that look like, you know, they look like bugs, but they're spy cameras, and drones that are completely unmanned.
02:18:52.000Yeah, oh dude, they've got some legit shit that looks like little bugs and it flies around and it can fly to Iraq.
02:18:58.000They've got some incredible technology.
02:19:00.000And you would think that something like this, like something that you could make a crop circle with, you could also use to do all kinds of crazy shit with.
02:19:07.000I mean, if there's sort of a technology that can manipulate patterns in wheat fields, maybe there's certain things that you could do where it just barbecues someone out of the fucking sky.
02:19:20.000Or it's just practicing where it hits, like the accuracy, like that's the market mix.
02:19:24.000It's like from Gears of War, part one.
02:19:25.000Could you imagine if they figure out a way to have a satellite that flies over a city, and any time you want something done, it just zooms in like Google Earth, has an instant close-up view of you, and you disappear.
02:20:19.000If somebody had a technology to do something and had done it, somebody would know.
02:20:24.000Unless that technology was created at Area 51. And if that was the case, they have a long-seated history of only allowing people in there that absolutely fucking know how to keep a secret.
02:20:33.000Because there's a lot of shit that's gone down at Area 51 and very few credible reports of any of it.
02:20:38.000Dr. Robert Lazar might be the only one, and he's been shown to probably be a liar.
02:21:03.000When you're a part of developing military weapons, secret military weapons, there's a certain amount of pride a lot of those guys take in the fact that they are developing the very best weapons and they're developing them in secret in these fucking bunkers that are built into the side of mountains.
02:21:16.000Yeah, but eventually you've got to show the weapon, though.
02:21:20.000That's where the fucking stealth bomber came from.
02:21:21.000It's all directly from Area 51. There's a lot of nutty shit that they worked on for years.
02:21:25.000But this whole Area 51, they didn't even admit it existed until, I believe it was the 90s, when they wanted to spread the amount of land that they controlled and was top secret.
02:21:35.000Because too many people were getting close and they were taking videos.
02:21:38.000Taking videos of what looks like UFOs.
02:21:40.000What looks like, most likely, unmanned drones.
02:21:43.000Flying through the night air and dancing and doing shit that we could never do in a fucking airplane.
02:24:07.000They just stood on top of each other's shoulders for generations, read all this geeky stuff that I don't have the chance to read or didn't let myself read, and then built this or cured a disease.
02:25:28.000He fought Nick Ring and he had him in this position.
02:25:32.000There's a position when you're in side control when you're facing the guy's legs and you got his leg or his arm wrapped up in between your legs.
02:25:39.000You know that mounted crucifix that everybody likes to do?
02:30:45.000Yeah, when he beat up Shogun dude, that was literally like, if you were from another planet, okay, and you came in and you were watching these species, you would say, oh, this is interspecies combat.
02:31:00.000This is one species going up against another species.
02:31:02.000Oh, this Shogun species, this really can't fuck with this other thing.
02:31:12.000I mean, we're like two different things.
02:31:14.000You know, I'm looking at Shogun, the way he throws his punches, the way he throws his kicks.
02:31:18.000It's a guy who's got an arm that goes this long.
02:31:20.000But when you've got an arm that goes way the fuck across the room and it's attached to a body that's spent a lifetime learning how to manipulate other people's bodies and control them and throw them around in wrestling, it's literally like two different species.
02:36:43.000I'm saying, okay, so your country is pretty badass and makes good music and whatever, but then another country whose budget is way fucking bigger and they got crazier acts and whatever and crazier video effects, of course you're going to watch some of that.
02:36:57.000You're not going to totally be, fuck America.
02:37:00.000What I was actually trying to get at, the reason why I was saying it, is because I was wondering what effect their discipline and the fact that they can get laid and just get serviced.
02:37:10.000I wonder what that has effect on their creativity, like the art they produce, the music that they make.
02:37:15.000And I was like, well, why do they like American music so much?
02:38:05.000A lot of people won't do it because they feel embarrassed about it, but everyone learns it in school to an extent.
02:38:10.000Well, maybe Japan, because it's not trying to take over the world anymore, maybe they've spent more time sort of evolving as a culture and just progressing business-wise and discipline-wise.
02:38:22.000No, but I think for years and years it's been just like that and people are very disciplined.
02:40:51.000They're basically cousins, but they just hacked them up.
02:40:53.000But where the island they went to had very few resources.
02:40:56.000They had to spend all day gathering food to eat.
02:40:58.000If I have a bunch of food in my house and I can listen to him be a priest and I can go to a doctor, we can have warriors, we can have teachers, all these specializations.
02:41:07.000Change of society based on natural resources.
02:41:10.000Or are there large grains that you could make?
02:41:59.000Develop the ability to fucking fold steel over and over.
02:42:03.000That's all I want is a samurai suit given to me by a freaking alien, dude.
02:42:07.000I'd be stoked if it was glow in the dark.
02:42:09.000I like what 4chan's been doing with him.
02:42:12.000They've been having huge photo threads of the guy from Ancient Aliens and his hair and stuff, and they're just making him all these different characters.
02:43:26.000They have African faces and these things are thousands and thousands of years old.
02:43:29.000old they believe at least six thousand years old what these fucking structures which puts them you know more what is that four thousand not even yeah almost four thousand BC so they don't know who the fuck these people were when they came from Africa they have African faces and this big carved stones gigantic massive ones of these faces they don't have a language attributed to these people they don't know that anything about the culture sorry just what a mystery so it's very likely that people were traveling from from South America How many years ago?
02:43:57.000South America to Egypt, in fact, because they found cocaine in mummies, and they know that cocaine can only be grown in South America, in South American climate.
02:44:05.000That's the whole Mormon faith's belief, though, right?
02:44:19.000That's how it's described to me by a Mormon is that somehow, somewhere in the Middle East, they came to South America first and populated the Americas from South America.
02:44:27.000I thought what I heard, maybe there's another group that believes that.
02:44:30.000But what's really funny is one guy actually went and got genetic testing because he was a devout Mormon and he really truly believed in it.
02:44:36.000So he went out and got the American Indians tested because he wanted to prove that they were Israeli.
02:44:39.000yeah they were the lost tribes but they were from siberia they were from the bering strait they came from another country they were indian well you don't need a damn test look at a freaking eskimo look at eskimo and look at a chinese person yeah yeah you're like you're like uh there's got to be some damn connection yeah russians look so much like american indians you It's easy, yeah.
02:45:00.000Well, those people, it's really amazing when you stop and think about it, when you look at how Eskimos have lived up until really recently.
02:45:09.000They still sort of follow the same sort of lives that they would have had to have followed hundreds and hundreds of years ago to stay alive.
02:45:51.000Furry boots is where it's at this season.
02:45:53.000The real issue would be that you'd have no choice and that you would probably have to be working so hard just to stay alive that that's where you must get all of your enjoyment from fucking hunting and gathering.
02:46:04.000You don't have no time for no hobbies anymore, dude.
02:46:06.000If you're living up there and you're just trying to bash seals over the head every day and eat them.
02:47:50.000I think you're supposed to eat things that are hard to catch.
02:47:53.000I think that's why fish is really good for you, and that's why deer is really good for you, and elk is really good for you, because they're out there running and trying to get away.
02:48:00.000But wild meat's so different than anything farmers.
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