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00:01:37.000Once Kevin gets over here, the moment he arrived, I met him in my driveway, and immediately we start talking about how Siri is fucking Skynet.
00:01:44.000I mean, it's like right out of the gate.
00:02:18.000The first time I moved out here, the first time I went over to Joe's house, he was working out with his friend Eddie, and he answered the door.
00:03:55.000I remember somebody else having a conversation with me about this, and they were talking about how there's a website where people are into different cartoon characters.
00:04:03.000First porn I ever bought was a Playboy Jessica Rabbit issue.
00:04:05.000Wait a minute, now that I'm realizing, now I'm thinking back again, now it was like, there was like all this porn that used to be online where it was like the Flintstones fucking.
00:04:38.000I saw a Simpsons takeover ad once that popped up and it was like, Maggie had a penis, the baby had a penis, the female baby, and was like fucking Marge's mouth with it.
00:07:16.000It was like using all the right terms and everything, but his work was whack.
00:07:20.000Synergize the web with a content management system from the future.
00:07:24.000Yeah, it's a weird thing when anything becomes popular.
00:07:26.000You know, there's people who are like real, for real geeks, and then there's people who see geekdom as an opportunity to sort of make some money, and they pretend to be geeks.
00:09:36.000It doesn't bother them even in the slightest.
00:09:39.000There's like levels of humanity people dip down to that's very disturbing.
00:09:43.000Like I'm sure you've seen the dolphin decks in Japan where they have dolphins laid on a deck, 50, 60 dolphins, and they just slice their throats.
00:09:51.000They pull them out of the water and they slice their throats.
00:10:59.000If some dudes out there was like, oh, dude, sweet, I get to skin a fucking greyhound today, can't wait, and I'm gonna punch some rabbits in the face before I get home.
00:11:10.000There's dark people, no doubt about it.
00:11:13.000I know that there are people that do that, but systematically, for hundreds of thousands of workers to do that, I don't want to believe that that's their attitude.
00:11:19.000I've watched videos of people beating cows when they work in the slaughterhouse, and they're hitting cows with hammers and shit.
00:12:48.000Some people are like that and I think some people are just really irresponsible and inconsiderate.
00:12:53.000It's like, well, I'll get this thing for two minutes and then, okay, I'm done with this play thing.
00:12:57.000I was really surprised though that they didn't clean up the dogs because my friend works at the shelter and the place they did, they take dogs that are about to die, like to be put to sleep and they rescue those dogs.
00:13:08.000Then they clean them up and repackage them, you know, and then like, you know, refurbish them.
00:14:49.000I'm saying it's in Mexico because everything's in Spanish.
00:14:52.000The entire neighborhood, they've just completely turned this one neighborhood, I don't want to say where it is, into essentially like a branch of Mexico.
00:15:48.000Yeah, they have championship lines of roosters.
00:15:51.000You want to buy roosters and breed them with championship bloodlines, because you want a really aggressive, badass rooster that really knows how to get Is there a fantasy league for cockfighting?
00:18:40.000But there's a certain amount of what he did that's so horrific That it just makes you really hesitant to ever forgive someone for that kind of behavior.
00:18:51.000You know, I forgive someone for fucking up.
00:18:55.000I forgive someone for poor mental choices.
00:18:58.000But when you kill a hundred dogs, man, and you electrocute them and shoot them and stab them and do all that shit that he supposedly did, I don't like you.
00:21:47.000If it's a Pitbull and he's out of his cage and he's a male and he has his balls and there's another dog that's a male and has his balls and that dog does anything even remotely resembling something that challenges the Pitbull's dominance, there's a fight.
00:22:02.000He's been bred for Yeah, unless you're just a bad motherfucker, Cesar Millan guy, and you've done a really good job of breeding your dog, or you've got a particular docile version of the breed where many, many, many generations of breeders have bred the gameness out of pits.
00:22:18.000When I'm talking about game pit bulls, most people, what you see when you see a pit bull, you see this 90-pound muscular, big-headed...
00:23:08.000So they have weight classes, and they put dogs on treadmills and shit.
00:23:12.000So I get that they treat it like a sport.
00:23:14.000I get that they treat it like anybody else would treat something professional, but does that make it okay to be breeding the dogs for that?
00:23:22.000I mean, I don't support it in any way.
00:23:23.000No, no, and I wasn't applying that you do, but I mean, like, that's...
00:23:26.000See, I'm a hypocrite, though, because like I said, I support human fighting.
00:23:29.000You just said it's less violent than UFC. No, it's not really.
00:23:32.000I mean, the dogs get fucking bit by pit bulls.
00:23:35.000I'm kind of kidding, and I'm kind of exaggerating, but I did say it, but what I meant was, I mean, I am around voluntary human violence amongst the most intelligent species on the planet on a regular basis, and for sure, I know those guys enjoy it.
00:27:28.000And if people would walk by the front, if he was by the babies and the little kids and the little kids were playing, and people would walk by the front gate, the dog would take two steps towards the fence, just in case he needed to go jack somebody, just take two steps, and then he would look back at the little kids.
00:28:01.000Hey, you mentioned Michael Vick did his time, and I don't want to tangentialize too much, but I mean, I think it's crazy that, you know, this Occupy stuff's going on, and I haven't had a chance to talk to you about it.
00:28:10.000I don't know where you fall or what you've seen, but it's crazy that those guys haven't done any time yet.
00:28:30.000This is the beginning of something huge.
00:28:32.000This is not just what it looked like What it looked like was one of them fucking Glenn Beck rallies that just got real long, lasted a while.
00:28:52.000I mean, I saw people out there for the first time with giant signs that said, Audit the Fed.
00:28:56.000And I was like, I didn't see you guys out here for any other rally.
00:28:59.000And maybe that's just because my eyes weren't open enough, but...
00:29:01.000I went, okay, if this is how it's going to go down, let's get it going.
00:29:04.000Well, I've had some discussions about this on my message board, and there's some real good points that a lot of these guys brought up that I agree with.
00:29:09.000One of them is that there's not a lot of cohesive message to this thing.
00:29:47.000The major concern is watching special interest groups, agent provocateurs, watch them try to roll into the fray and do their YouTube videos to fight back and their CNN coverage to picture the protest in a certain direction.
00:29:59.000It's so fascinating to watch the way the steps were outlined for it.
00:30:03.000Here's what happened to the Tea Party.
00:30:04.000Here's how every other movement has been marginalized.
00:30:08.000Marginalized every other movement for years.
00:30:11.000And to watch those steps playing out right now with Occupy Wall Street and seeing if it's going to thrive or if it's going to crumble in on itself Do you think that somebody marginalized the Tea Party or do you think they just did it to themselves?
00:31:18.000Yeah, they weren't just canceling their bank accounts.
00:31:21.000The guy who was the loudest there, one of the guys who was the loudest from videos that I've seen, was an undercover cop.
00:31:26.000So he was right in there, yeah, it's out there.
00:31:28.000So one of the ladies who went in there, she did protest, she did say her speech, but then she politely, after they told her to quiet down, and this is, again, I can only cobble together so many stories, but this is what I've observed over a few articles.
00:31:40.000She quietly calmed down, she closed her bank account, she was outside, they locked everybody in because the police said, well, if they're a disrupting business, hold them there, which I don't, even for being an asshole, I don't think you can legally detain somebody like that.
00:32:17.000So the one thing this movement has going for it, which has me remaining so hopeful, is that they are so fucking connected.
00:32:26.000Like, that's what makes it great, because the second bullshit happens, it's like, listen, yeah, that's one story, but here's 40 other angles of that event, start to finish.
00:32:36.000You know, and they showed a commercial, right now there's an attack commercial against the movement that has some crazy guy who's known for being a crazy YouTube guy spouting anti-Semitic remarks at people left and right.
00:32:46.000And there's one guy, and there's another dude that has a sign that was anti-Semitic, and they cut back and forth between this guy for like three minutes.
00:32:53.000You know, this guy with the sign, the guy with that, and there's video of people at that protest shaming them, telling them to get the fuck out of here.
00:33:07.000But this movement is so connected that there's a chance that you could see 40 other perspectives on an event and truly make it up for yourself.
00:33:15.000This Citibank arrest, now that we're talking about this, and now that I'm going, and you told me this, and I'm going online, and we'll tweet this stuff too, people are getting a chance to, do you want one of those, man?
00:33:59.000He was at the precinct while they were all getting arrested and he was laughing with fellow white shirt cops telling them about what we'd been saying, basically.
00:34:05.000It was a bit startling how inside their information was, how they were being paid to go to these protests and put us in situations where we'd be arrested and not be able to leave.
00:35:09.000It's what the cops, they have a term for it.
00:35:11.000It's for cutting off large sections of a crowd for arrest during a protest.
00:35:15.000So that Brooklyn Bridge arrest, there's a lot of views that depending upon how you want to interpret the video that you're watching, those guys were kettled.
00:35:45.000He turns around, and many of the protesters felt that there was a line of police officers walking down the street, leading them onto the Brooklyn Bridge, like across it.
00:35:53.000The protesters thought they had a minor victory.
00:35:55.000They were like, fuck yeah, Brooklyn Bridge, we got this shit!
00:35:58.000The cops get about halfway in, they cut them off, they put the lid on the kettle, and they cut off this large group of protesters on the bridge and arrested them all.
00:36:32.000If somebody just feels like Citibank's a shit organization and they just want to go in there and cancel their thing and maybe say, Citibank, I disagree with everything you're doing and I want my money back.
00:36:41.000So search the one that happened today with Bank of America.
00:36:43.000Because a woman goes into a Bank of America, she had a sign, and there's a video of this whole thing.
00:36:48.000Again, I think, don't preach, don't make a ruckus, don't try to be the YouTube splash, but then again, here we are talking about it, so I guess it worked.
00:36:58.000There's something from October 11th where a bunch of women were arrested inside a Bank of America for returning trash from foreclosed homes.
00:37:48.000Do you want to be able to go to a place where you work and have a bunch of people stand around yelling that what you're doing is bad or protesting inside your job?
00:37:57.000No, but again, you have to watch the video.
00:38:58.000But I mean, the police actions in New York, from checking IDs to make sure you're allowed to walk on certain streets, you had to have a Wall Street ID, kind of an ID that matched one of the addresses that you worked there.
00:39:08.000Well, don't you think that probably has something to do with terror attacks as well?
00:39:12.000They didn't do it before these protests.
00:39:14.000Right, but I mean, don't you think they're worried, possibly, that someone's going to sneak through?
00:39:17.000I mean, if there's so much fucking, like, people and so much attention in a certain area...
00:39:23.000That's a slippery slope, though, dude.
00:39:24.000It is a slippery slope, but justifying security.
00:39:25.000Because, first of all, this protest hasn't been violent.
00:40:11.000What if you don't work for anybody who's doing anything evil, and you work on fucking Wall Street, and you can't get anywhere near your job, because there's a million hippies out there beating drums, banging for the banks to close, and you don't even support the fucking banks.
00:40:23.000Be like, I hear you, but I gotta get over there, because that's where I work.
00:40:26.000And they're like, you fucking one percenter!
00:40:27.000You fucking piece of shit's pressing people!
00:40:29.000And, you know, meanwhile, there's a person who works there.
00:41:11.000For every avatar dressed up, head-to-toe blue hippie that's banging a bongo drum, there were three people there of all ages, all races, that understood that shit is fucked up in this country and was trying to be positive about it and trying to elicit change.
00:41:25.000And so it was a really nice feeling, but I feel like there were clear demands and there was a good purpose to it then.
00:42:18.000But it's literally like, as this is going on, and the cops are there protecting Wall Street, and pepper spraying civilians who are protesting it, JP Morgan is making multi-million dollar donations to the NYPD. No way.
00:42:30.000Who are they going to serve and protect, man?
00:43:57.000And then the cops are acting as if that $4.6 million is worth more than whatever these fucking regular people pay out of their paychecks every goddamn week.
00:44:09.000And a percentage of that, for sure, has to go to public service.
00:44:12.000The people that are in your community, man.
00:45:13.000Maybe I'll create Occupy LA and people go in there.
00:45:15.000Now we have a mixed media shared space with like IRC style moderation, meaning whoever creates that room can anoint.
00:45:20.000If I create a room, I can give you permission and you permission to post directly to it.
00:45:24.000Everybody else chats in a separate area of the app, but allow people to push button quick voice message chat so you can quickly communicate in a crowd.
00:45:38.000Pull up the Google Maps, drop a pin on it, send that out to the group so they can be like, all right, here's our new rally point and get there.
00:45:43.000All in names of keeping it peaceful and organized.
00:45:46.000If anybody takes a photo or tries to live stream from within the app, it would be geotagged and hashtagged.
00:45:51.000Automatically, because you're in that group.
00:45:53.000So when it goes up to the web, right now I'm trying to follow the protests, and they go, cops are beating a dude in a wheelchair in Sacramento.
00:46:55.000I had a bunch of angry, aggressive names, but the way to really sell it is to say, well, not only can this be used to help facilitate marches, but if a group of 10 is going to Disneyland, they can all create a group amongst their friends and share their media that way.
00:47:56.000Well, dude, how revolutionary would that image be?
00:47:58.000Because right now the crowds, half of the violence and the confusion comes from panic.
00:48:02.000The panic is coming from a lack of communication.
00:48:04.000When you see those people chanting back what people are saying in a park, people think they're crazy and it's like a cult.
00:48:09.000It's like, actually, no, they don't allow amplification devices.
00:48:11.000So people are just like, we'll loudly repeat everything else that's happening.
00:48:14.000But you get enough people running a WeGather-style app, Pop in one earbud.
00:48:18.000You can still hear what's going on around you.
00:48:20.000You'll know exactly who's connected and who's in that room by the side of the earbud and by glancing down at your phone and just fucking push to talk, man.
00:48:27.000Jamie Kilstein made a tweet and this tweet will forever, in my mind, embody what is going on here.
00:49:03.000Because then you've got guys like Move On.
00:49:06.000There's a petition on Move On site to have them to stop supporting Occupy Wall Street.
00:49:10.000They're seen as a radical leftist group and very political and they have their own ties to corporations, etc., etc., depending upon who you ask.
00:49:18.000So right now, you can't have anybody from a group like that, Republican, Democrat, I don't give a shit.
00:49:23.000You cannot have groups with strong political ties funding your movement and gathering interest for your movement.
00:49:30.000You can't do that because that will be used as fodder to shut it down immediately.
00:49:33.000Well, this is the beautiful thing about this song.
00:49:51.000A lot of Republicans might tell people that I would register to be a Republican if I really thought that Ron Paul had a chance or that Gary Johnson had a chance.
00:49:59.000What a real Republican is supposed to be about is supposed to be about small business and saying the fuck out of people's personal lives.
00:50:31.000Which is why they can't allow a certain group that represents a certain team or a certain color or fucking animal glom onto their message, and they're going to have to communicate better to do that.
00:50:40.000This is the big question about this Occupy Wall Street thing, is that it's already gotten way past a boiling point.
00:50:47.000And it's gotten to a point where if the economy doesn't improve and these people don't have to go back to work, well, what the fuck is going to stop them from escalating?
00:50:55.000What the fuck is going to stop this from getting bigger and bigger?
00:50:58.000I love when people go, get a job, you hippie.
00:52:16.000What I was going to say is that his point is...
00:52:19.000It's very simple and generalized, but the reality is many a person has gone from intense poverty to immense wealth, and they've done it by bulldog determinations.
00:52:30.000Yeah, but they did it when the game wasn't rigged.
00:52:52.000I think the jobs that you can get right now, the dollar is being so manipulated.
00:52:56.000Okay, first of all, to get something big going, you want to get Bill Gates money, you want to get that kind of money, you want to be a baller, you got to make your own shit.
00:53:15.000Broadband sucks in this country and cellular sucks, so I'm going to start my own carrier and I'm going to make it awesome, but the game is rigged against me.
00:54:39.000For sure, we're in a terrible financial situation where we've realized that we've been scammed all these years and essentially defrauded and lied to.
00:54:47.000And we have a Congress that's bought and paid for.
00:54:58.000In 2011, with the internet, with the access to information that we have, that the government conducts its business this way is absolutely, completely shameful.
00:55:24.000B of A just offloaded a bunch of fucking bad assets to a branch of their arm that's FDIC insured here in the States that were European assets.
00:55:34.000They did this thing that's not supposed to be legal, swiped over a bunch of stuff, so if the euro fails, if there's a financial crisis there, the American taxpayers could end up bailing out the European banks.
00:56:07.000With all the connectivity that we have in this day and age, just as you're saying, it's crazy that the government is run the way it is, right?
00:56:13.000That's what this protest is all about.
00:56:23.000And they trust it enough to be verified and it's my social security number and blah blah blah and there's the amount that I'm paying and the government takes it, state and federal.
00:56:30.000If I can pay my taxes online, we can do a system that does that, why can't I pay my taxes and then apportion those taxes directly to the funds and the projects and the things that I want?
00:56:41.000Let me vote truly democratically with my dollars.
00:56:43.000Now, if we have to set minimum levels, you know, for defense spending or, you know...
00:57:12.000One year when I wasn't incorporated, like now I work for myself as a corporation, but the last year that I wasn't, I paid 43 or 47% of my income to taxes.
00:57:22.000Let's just round that bitch off to half.
00:57:25.000You're paying half of your money and you don't even get a statement that says, hey, you helped fix a road, you helped pay for cops, you helped support firefighters.
00:58:28.000I've heard him vilified several times, so it's nice to hear that side of it.
00:58:31.000Well, he probably feels bad for all the creepy shit that he did to get a hundred fucking billion dollars or whatever he's got stashed under his mattress.
00:59:38.000There was no, oh my god, where's my baby?
00:59:40.000When population density gets to a certain number and the value of life diminishes because there's just too many goddamn humans and literally not enough food for people, so instead of someone being valuable, you're actually a hindrance.
01:00:24.000I look around at all the goddamn video footage that people have on their cell phones, and then I see the video footage of UFOs, and I'm like, this is horseshit.
01:01:35.000But why would we think that anything more intelligent than us would treat us any differently than we treat the most intelligent things that we're aware of?
01:01:43.000Chimpanzees and dolphins and orcas are the most intelligent things that we're aware of.
01:02:47.000Take that to 100 million years of evolution or whatever the fuck.
01:02:50.000fuck you know who knows how long you know life can exist on certain planets and they could be so fucking sophisticated they could have like not just created a planet but you know but engineered our whole environment you know right well let's see what happens here it's It's truly Sim Earth.
01:03:05.000The same way we do it with ants in video games are now people in The Sims.
01:03:11.000Can you imagine if the whole idea of asteroidal impacts and mass extinction events was actually a programmed cycle, that we're just not aware of it?
01:03:20.000We just are still assuming that there's sort of a random nature to all these rocks out there colliding, but really they just happen every certain amount of millions of years, just some sort of a global reset that just keeps going on.
01:03:45.000Yeah, the mad race is to get off the planet in some sort of an artificial environment that you control, be it a large spaceship or a giant artificial planet, and to avoid all the cosmic impacts, solar flares, all the really big shit that happens, supernovas.
01:04:01.000When hypernovas happen, everything anywhere near it in the galaxy just gets cooked.
01:04:22.000And I know that was the bill of goods that we were sold.
01:04:24.000I'm sure it had a lot to do with defense testing and everything else, but if all the money that we did, and this is just me wishing we could vote with our tax dollars again, but if a fraction of the money we've spent blowing shit up in some other fucking country was spent to just solving something, like a problem for humanity here, we could be leaders again, like a problem for humanity here, we could be leaders again, and we could be positively and we could fucking...
01:07:51.000I think it's going to be procedurally generated, dude.
01:07:52.000You're going to be able to go to a website and through series and knobs, select exactly the kind of woman you want, fucking slide her her tits, choose her height, the hair color, select the scenes and positions, and hit play.
01:08:03.000And that shit is going to auto-generate, and it's going to destroy humanity.
01:08:10.000Well, it depends on your definition of super realistic.
01:08:13.000For me, virtual reality isn't true virtual reality unless the shit is being into my brain.
01:08:17.000Unless it's being beamed into it or electrified into it.
01:08:21.000I don't care if it's through a helmet or a glove.
01:08:22.000but until my brain is being tricked to imagine ones and zeros, I'm not going to call VR VR.
01:08:26.000Do you think it's impossible to do that without some sort of an electronic aid or do you think that they'll be able to figure out, I thought at one point in time, I don't know about the science behind this because this is all just out of my imagination, but that there may be a frequency that they can tune into, that the human mind can tune into for whatever reason.
01:09:31.000If they're talking about genetic engineering and they're always talking about the possibility of nanobots, We're good to go in and cure cancer.
01:09:38.000What about the idea of artificial cells?
01:09:42.000What was it that they just discovered recently?
01:09:44.000They created something that reproduced itself in a lab for the first time.
01:09:51.000Some small structure, an atom or whatever it was that reproduced itself.
01:09:55.000What if they can create artificial cells, they inject this artificial cell into you, and slowly but surely, over the course of however long it takes to regenerate inside all of your tissue, you become like a superhuman.
01:11:22.000Whoever gets it first, whether it's the US or the Chinese, they're going to put a hook in it that allows them to use it for whatever they want.
01:11:58.000When we're almost there, right here, it's going to be just powerful enough, and someone's going to have it, and use it to take the rest of the world all the way back.
01:12:11.000After it's all over, of how close we were.
01:12:13.000And the scientists sit around and discuss how close we were to changing the world.
01:12:17.000And now they realize that they're old men, and there's no medicine around anymore, and you barely can find gasoline.
01:12:22.000We could have had it all, and a few greedy men who still live on with that AI still have it.
01:12:27.000And then 10,000 years from now, people find all these different ruins in America when America's covered with ice and then the ice withdraws again.
01:12:35.000You know, just like it's happened before, right?
01:13:21.000Because they move, you know, several feet a year, whatever they do, but they're essentially a mile-high sheet of ice that's slowly moving its way across the ground, and anything needs to be there.
01:15:07.000Just jump in their neck and go, WHAT, BITCH? WHAT? Yeah.
01:15:11.000There's something weird about the whole story, though, because, like, the sheriff knew him very well.
01:15:14.000I guess he had to go up there all the time.
01:15:17.000Like there was shit going on all the time with this guy and if you look at his house on Google Maps it's actually listed as a Harley like motorcycle shop So he had a farm is it like an illegal preserve he was running out the back like I don't think it was no I don't think it's illegal But so it's weird like I want to know the whole story like what this guy was going on this guy and now Jack Hanna the Columbus Zoo I
01:15:43.000The zoo is overlooking this whole thing, but I was surprised that they couldn't, you know, I know they had to shoot a lot of them, but this seems like there's some of them they could have tried to tranquilize or something like that.
01:15:53.000The police force didn't have a chance, man.
01:15:56.000Yeah, but the zoo, honestly, is like 30 miles away from where this happened.
01:16:00.000Yeah, but do you understand what I'm saying?
01:16:01.000Do they have the resources to get out there?
01:16:03.000The animals were out, and there's people living there, and there's 40 fucking 50 animals, and tigers, and bears, and shit.
01:16:09.000This isn't Mountain Lion Poach's Poodle on Runyon Canyon.
01:16:12.000If you go to my Twitter today, while we're recording this, a lot of people get this online, but today is October 19th, so if you go to my Twitter, on October 19th, I retweeted somebody about this.
01:17:32.000I talked to my sister, who lives very close to this, and I said, you know, what are they saying to you guys?
01:17:38.000And they're like, well, they're saying that they're shooting all the animals because they all have herpes and stuff, is what they're saying on the news.
01:18:50.000When you talk about manipulating genetics, it's not outside the realm of possibility that they've already done something like that.
01:18:55.000They've already created some sort of a chimpanzee-human being hybrid.
01:18:59.000Well, dude, the shit that they tell you they have done already, you know that there's a clone baby being monitored right now somewhere out there, and they're seeing exactly how that worked.
01:19:07.000And genetically engineered kids out there, they're running tests on them right now.
01:19:27.000Every now and then I hear whispers of things, of technology, of military technology that's so far and above the realm of what we currently think is possible.
01:19:36.000We always hear, like, they have the satellites that can zoom in on a hot dog on your grill, and they had those in 1983, man.
01:20:50.000That's like those shake-to-charge iPod holders.
01:20:52.000But they have it on that level that they can get the sway of a building and a device low-powerful enough and mesh-networked enough to spread those ideas.
01:21:00.000And that's how they were listening in on shit.
01:21:02.000China was just involved in a huge scandal for that.
01:21:20.000They had little bugs in cars, and they thought, they were like, listen, this is just tracking how often you drive for discounts or for, you know, carpool riders and help you get through the, it's like a fast pass lane kind of thing, right?
01:21:29.000This will just help you get through the toll booth.
01:21:31.000It had audio recording, and some said video recording built into the tiniest little bug that was sitting on their dash so that they could monitor everybody.
01:21:38.000Dude, eventually someone's going to hack Apple and they're going to get into your fucking webcam.
01:22:38.000But think about that time you do snap a photo out at a party or something like that, and it's, oh shit, it's already on my photo stream, I can't get to my laptop.
01:22:45.000And Mrs. Pereira opens up your laptop and says, God damn it, Kevin.
01:22:49.000Or Bobby, who's in his car sniping your Wi-Fi or whatever, now has all your photos.
01:23:43.000Because these photos were being downloaded and uploaded potentially on a public, unsecured, well, you had to log in, but a public, you know, secured Wi-Fi spot.
01:24:53.000It's like a file's ID. It's thumbprint.
01:24:56.000So if you download a file and you want to make sure you got it exactly as it should be, it's a way of verifying the file to make sure no bits were altered or harmed in the transmission.
01:25:04.000They have a database of every child pornography and illegal pornography video sorted by title with checksums so that way if the police are scanning Wi-Fi or get somebody's files from the internet they can match the checksum of the file on their hard drive to one that's already in the database and see if it's in there so they don't have to watch the video.
01:25:51.000But I would imagine if you're doing a checksum, it could just know that every 100 bytes, here's a character string here, so there's a check for it there.
01:25:58.000Every x bytes, this is the character, like this is the hex, put it there.
01:26:01.000I think it's way more elegant than that because I can already poke holes in that.
01:26:04.000Well, think about how crazy Shazam is.
01:26:08.000Think about that thing, that program where you go to a club and there's a song playing and you like the song, so you press Shazam, it sends a signal, and ten seconds later tells you what that fucking song is.
01:27:11.000It's integrated, but this is where it gets crazy.
01:27:13.000It's based on Callow, the cognitive assistant that learns and organizes from a company called SRI International.
01:27:20.000And it was artificial intelligence augmentation software developed for DARPA. Right.
01:27:25.000The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency.
01:27:29.000That's like, those are the motherfuckers that really are Skynet.
01:27:32.000So if this is the version we have now, what's stopping them from tapping a phone line, grabbing a voice chat, taking the audio from this podcast and analyzing it in real time just like Shazam and pulling out those keywords and those context cues?
01:31:52.000Now, there's infrastructure reasons to do that.
01:31:54.000There's also terrible usability reasons to not do that, being that if you have AT&T, half the time Siri doesn't work because you don't have a strong enough signal to get out to her.
01:35:18.000I love to do it, and it's so releasing, but when I do it, I see those roads as highways that have sheer cliffs at the end of them, and I'm just, fuck, gotta commit one.
01:35:30.000Do you listen to music when you write?
01:35:32.000I try to listen to language that I don't understand.
01:35:34.000I like Brazilian music, or Puerto Rican music, I like Spanish music.
01:35:37.000I can't do music with lyrics, even if I don't understand them.
01:35:39.000I can do it in the background a little bit, as long as I don't understand it, or...
01:35:43.000Sometimes, if I'm really high, especially on edibles, I'll pick one song and just throw that bitch on reboot, and I'll listen to the same song a hundred times in a row.
01:36:40.000I'll listen to, there's like a spectrum of, there's like a frequency spectrum that's supposed to induce that kind of zoning out, and I started writing with that lately.
01:36:49.000If you search, it's like there's meditation videos, and it's like 900 and something hertz sine waves that kind of loop, but people have done, made them like pretty sounding, not just an annoying thing.
01:36:57.000It's just filter sweeps through a certain band pass that triggers that sort of white noise effect.
01:37:50.000That's one of the weird things that people talk about online all the time that listen to this podcast, is how many of my friends are all fucking psychedelic freaks.
01:37:59.000They're trippers, and they've never tried the tank.
01:40:11.000But in that couple minutes, it was so crazy.
01:40:14.000The idea, whatever it is, whether it's imagination, whether it's I mean, who the fuck knows what is stored in cells as they transfer from generation to generation to generation?
01:40:28.000There may very well be some wacky fucking file deep in your hard drive and you just get in an isolation tank on a pot brownie and it just pops open this one little cartridge that you weren't supposed to access.
01:40:39.000Let's unencrypt that portion of your mental hard drive and just beam that experience.
01:40:43.000And you're some little monkey person from 500,000 years ago walking through a rainforest speaking in some dead language.
01:42:27.000The built-in anonymity that the internet has, people have added it to their rights.
01:42:36.000It's almost like you're allowed to be a cunt because you're anonymous.
01:42:40.000There's a certain amount of disrespect that people are allowed to shine on people.
01:42:44.000It's like, man, this is not necessary.
01:42:46.000There was a conversation that Duncan and I were having and that some people loved and some people just did not love.
01:42:52.000And some of the discussion about it was like, it was so bizarre how some people just have no problem just being completely fucking rude when they know that you're going to read it.
01:43:03.000And they're talking about it in a way that's just...
01:43:07.000Not even remotely considering how a person's going to receive it.
01:43:28.000He's actually going to be our science advisor.
01:43:30.000When he graduates from school, I think I'm going to hook him up with a job, and he'll be our science advisor.
01:43:34.000So many times we talk about shit and we don't know what the fuck we're talking about, and he's pulling his hair out in Houston, so we're going to have to hire him.
01:43:40.000I was shocked at the anger and vitriol that even my fans had initially when I started talking about Occupy and started talking about other things.
01:43:56.000And then I was like, no, absolutely I should be because I want to be.
01:43:59.000And immediately when I started engaging in the conversations with the guys that were all caps, hatred, no matter what it was, like pretty much 99% of them Some people just want to get your fucking attention, - Well clearly, and clearly, clearly.
01:44:21.000But this is the kind of thing though where, you know, you never know, so you have to engage.
01:44:26.000You have to engage if people are like, well this is wrong and this is factually incorrect.
01:44:29.000It's like, well, no, here's the story.
01:45:31.000My number one concern when I talk about anything that I like, anything that's benefited in my life, and know this, this is a true statement.
01:45:39.000There's no exaggeration in this, no hyperbole whatsoever.
01:45:42.000If I'm telling you about it, I want you to do it because I think it'll benefit you.
01:47:13.000I was going to different vitiligo specialists, and I would have to take these things called sorolens, and they were pills that made me super sensitive to light, and then I'd have to get in like, it's almost like a tanning booth, but you only go in there for three minutes.
01:47:25.000Were they trying to tan the pigment back?
01:48:06.000They've applied scientific principles to extracting vitamins and they sell these fucking vitamins.
01:48:10.000If you don't believe in alpha brain or you don't believe in vitamins, that's good for you.
01:48:14.000But if you're fucking fighting people tooth and nail on something that they absolutely believe in, you're just trying to fight, man.
01:48:21.000And I guarantee you most likely what it is with a lot of these people is they're not happy with their own life and they're probably smart, but they're fucked up.
01:48:29.000They're focusing something, whether it's online, whether it's an argument, whether it's trying to win a flame war or whatever.
01:48:35.000And that becomes their distraction from their miserable existence, their garbage piling up in their fucking kitchen, their bills, their phone ringing off the hook.
01:48:43.000It sounds like the kind of person who could use a little faith in a placebo rather than being against it.
01:49:43.000This isn't some fucking ditch-digging shithead.
01:49:45.000You wish that they were donating their processes to a more positive cause as opposed to being so negative.
01:49:50.000It's fascinating that that would be a subject that would drive you nuts, whether or not vitamins work.
01:49:55.000You know, when they're on brain vitamins, we're like, what a weird thing to get all hyped about.
01:49:59.000He might be idolizing you, though, and this is something that he believes, though, and so this one issue with you has now shattered that, and he has to prove you wrong on it.
01:50:59.000There's a clear trend, and that trend is connectivity.
01:51:03.000That trend is an interlacing of information, and you're not going to be able to avoid all the aspects of your life.
01:51:08.000That's why I wrote a Wired article aimed at Anonymous, which I know was opening up the floodgates for me to just be attacked, but my message to them was, hey guys, listen, I know it's fun to deface websites, and I know it's fun to hack Twitter accounts, but you need to, maybe you're younger, maybe you just don't give a fuck, maybe you really are doing it for the lols, but You need to not get busted for the simple, trivial shit right now, trolling people online and putting out their data, because we need you for the fight, the real fight, you know?
01:51:34.000Yeah, LulSec just got turned in by an anonymous website proxy.
01:51:38.000They were like, oh, wait a second, yes, we definitely do this, but in our thing it says don't do anything illegal, and...
01:51:45.000Here, we're giving the cops the information, so they all got arrested.
01:51:48.000There's people that hacked, what was it, PlayStation?
01:51:50.000Well, the real issue is, just like Occupy Wall Street, who's in Anonymous?
01:52:07.000There was a fake anonymous video posted to have a hack Wall Street day.
01:52:12.000And it was like on a Monday, it was on a holiday.
01:52:14.000And everybody said this is clearly a plant because anonymous would never be so stupid as to attack the markets on a holiday when the markets aren't that volatile.
01:52:23.000And they would never post it in these ways.
01:54:29.000I'm going to go to the gym and sweat it out, get those toxins out, but I push it way too far, and it shatters my immune system for like three weeks.
01:57:00.000The federal government is saying that you cannot have a gun or bullets because the federal law dictates that marijuana is a Schedule I substance.
01:57:07.000And so when you apply to the alcohol, tobacco, and firearms for a gun, to get a permit to buy a gun...
01:57:14.000You have to say that you are a user of marijuana.
01:58:43.000It's going to make you more sensitive to the possibilities of hurting somebody or hurting yourself.
01:58:50.000Yeah, but they're going to point to the one dude who has a bad trip and thinks he's seeing shit off of an edible and starts shooting somebody.
01:59:15.000It's un-American to step in and say that if you want to have...
01:59:19.000Something that the states have voted on and you have a goddamn right.
01:59:23.000Their state's rights are supposed to supersede federal rights.
01:59:26.000You're supposed to be able to decide what you can and can't use.
01:59:29.000And the state comes along and says, you know what?
01:59:31.000We've looked at all the information and guess what?
01:59:32.000There's a lot of people with glaucoma, a lot of people with cancers, a lot of people with anxieties, a lot of people with all sorts of different fucking ailments.
02:00:06.000There's not a goddamn thing in the world that's useless, that makes no money, that people are beating down the doors trying to make illegal.
02:00:29.000In this day and age, when you get a fucking person on television who represents the United States government and they start talking about going after real estate owners for renting out property to these cannabis shops, they're going to steal their fucking property.
02:00:43.000The government's going to come in from hardworking Americans who put their fucking businesses for rent.
02:01:04.000And the federal government comes in and says, no, we're going to steal your fucking house because you rent it out to someone who sells pot.
02:02:09.000Instead of 20 fucking years or whatever the hell it takes to grow back your paper for trees, it's amazing.
02:02:15.000It's one of the prime fucks, and it's one of the things that has to be addressed.
02:02:19.000And even if you disagree, I'm sorry, but even if you disagree with what it can do or why it can do it or the propaganda out there, and even if you feel reed for madness and drugs, drugs, drugs, the sheer violation of rights...
02:02:31.000When the federal government comes in and, as you said, boots you out of your fucking business that you put your neck on the line for and try to do legally, according to state law, that should have everybody enraged, regardless of what the subject is.
02:02:42.000And not only that, how about prioritizing our fucking problems?
02:02:46.000We're living in a day and age where there's rampant crime all over the place.
02:02:49.000People are getting carjacked and shot and you look at the fucking murder rate in Los Angeles.
02:02:53.00020 million fucking people stuffed into one small area and traffic and nonsense and car theft and home invasions.
02:03:00.000You look at all that and you're telling me that you need civil servants to go after a plant that makes people silly?
02:03:07.000You're going to waste our fucking tax dollars arresting people for selling silly plants, for selling plants that make food taste better, make sex taste better, make movies more awesome.
02:03:33.000When Occupy starts having signs that say, give us back our weed, then they're going to try to roll on the movement and say that it's just another hippie movement.
02:03:41.000All these kids want are their fucking drugs.
02:03:44.000They're not going to be able to do that.
02:03:53.000Right, but is it going to get bigger because they're going to put their ad dollars behind portraying the movement as a pro-weed, this is what they care about movement?
02:04:48.000That's a good point, but I think there's enough people that do believe at this point that other people are going to have to start listening.
02:04:54.000Because there's enough people like Ron Paul and Gary Johnson, intelligent Republicans, that are really pragmatic, thoughtful people that can tell you why it should be legal.
02:05:04.000But does he stand a snowball's chance in hell of being elected and affecting any change?
02:05:26.000Over the history of this country, they lent out, without any debates, without any notification, they lent out more money than the history of the debt of our country to bankers to bail them out.
02:05:37.000They gave us one amount and then said, okay, here you go, here you go.
02:06:38.000They were like, well, when this country is in dire straits or there's a market spike or the next depression is going to happen, we're going to be there to make it all right by printing money.
02:06:46.000We're going to be the bank that lends money to the country.
02:06:48.000What's amazing is when someone's running for president and they meet with the Bilderberg group, just out in the open.
02:08:32.000And then taking the guys who are responsible for defrauding the nation, these guys from J.P. Morgan, from Citibank, from Goldman Sachs, from Bank of America, and putting them in positions of power, in positions where they can control the money.
02:08:44.000You put those guys in power, the ones that literally fucked this country by selling faulty mortgages and betting against their own customers.
02:08:52.000Like betting against them, selling you shit in a box, putting a AAA rating on it, and saying, dude, this is so secure, you're gonna love this shit.
02:08:58.000Oh yeah, we bet against it, and now it's gonna fail.
02:09:00.000And then you're gonna give me the money to bail me out?
02:09:02.000He put those motherfuckers in his cabinet.
02:09:05.000I'm happy Don't Ask, Don't Tell got repealed, but you got some fucking work to do if you want to get my vote.
02:09:32.000I'm saying that, like, someone might see this and get outraged.
02:09:34.000And the statement that I'm trying to make, which was woefully missed, I get it now.
02:09:37.000But the statement I was trying to make was that the same anger you have for moral issues, you need to apply to the issues that are the fundamental problems right now, in my opinion.
02:09:45.000It's not those little moral issues that are on the side that you're being offended by right now.
02:09:49.000It's these bankers that took the fucking money.
02:09:51.000It's the government that's bought by the bankers.
02:09:53.000It's the police force that's being paid by them to stifle your rights to protest.
02:09:58.000Like, if that foundation crumbles, we won't be able to have the conversations about the moral shit that you want to have a conversation on.
02:10:18.000It's so hard to believe that there's an economy based on gambling, that things are going to fail, and that that is a hundred times larger than the actual economy.
02:11:12.000We are literally being sucked dry by financial vampires.
02:11:17.000It's like there's a vampire colony that's preying on our people, but the way they're doing it, instead of sucking blood out, they're sucking money out.
02:11:25.000And they live in these opulent castles that you can go nowhere near, and there's armed guards and fucking fences, and they're sleeping in their coffins, and they're just Socking money out of it.
02:11:36.000And they're doing it, and they're doing it legally somehow or another.
02:11:39.000They're donating money to the cops, $4.6 million to the cops, so they can fucking keep them away from them while the protests are going on.
02:12:02.000But how amazing is it when that guy's questioning all these different professors that now, these guys, they become professors and then they get jobs working for the government.
02:12:10.000So when they're professors, they say shit that turns out to not be fucking true at all.
02:12:15.000They say shit that enables businesses to get away with creepy things because, well, we went to this financial expert and this is what his opinion is.
02:12:22.000He's like, hey, everything's going to be cool.
02:12:23.000And they're like, hey, he said everything's going to be cool.
02:12:26.000And then it turns out this cocksucker goes and starts working for the federal government afterwards or starts working for some big corporation afterwards and gets some cushy ass fucking job and is making X millions of dollars per year because of his decisions that he made that support these fucking vampire criminals.
02:12:39.000It's the same revolving door with the SEC right now.
02:12:42.000Like the guys are supposed to be regulating Wall Street and putting cases, you know, up to the government so they can actually enforce them.
02:12:47.000They know that if they don't prosecute, if they don't do anything, There's going to be a revolving door.
02:12:51.000When they're done with their two or three years, they can hop right on over and work for the guys that they were supposed to be investigating.
02:13:08.000This is just a conversation between friends.
02:13:09.000How many friends are sitting around smoking a joint, drinking a couple of beers, having the same fucking conversation, spitting at each other in a bar somewhere, going, these motherfuckers!
02:13:25.000We are right now at Vietnam protest levels.
02:13:30.000We're at the state where you see that girl get maced in New York and you hear that that guy only got fucking 10 days of vacation time removed from...
02:13:38.000You're like, how is that guy allowed to be a fucking cop?
02:13:40.000You went around and maced some chicks?
02:14:06.000Is God not going to be that strong against that Marine?
02:14:08.000One cop threw a sucker punch at one of the protesters, and it was like the worst punch ever.
02:14:13.000You're like, you should never be confident enough to punch a man.
02:14:17.000With that whack-ass technique you have, you don't know how to fight at all, and yet you have the balls to throw a punch in a crowd against an unarmed protester?
02:14:27.000Which shows just how fucking peaceful, despite the agent provocateurs, it shows just how peaceful this movement truly is, because they know that's the only way.
02:14:34.000Well, it's also that you see these cops that are older cops, the white shirt cops.
02:14:38.000Those are the guys that are older cops that have been in the force a long time, and they get jaded.
02:14:43.000Oh, they've seen the worst of humanity.
02:14:45.000They get entitled, too, and they get cocky, and they think that they can get away with some shit.
02:14:50.000That's what enabled him to pull the trigger and punch him down the face like that.
02:14:53.000But they've also dealt with scum day in and day out, like you said.
02:14:55.000So they see somebody in their face screaming at them, which that should not be happening, but they see that, and they go, okay, I'm now identifying you as scum right now.
02:15:02.000But we gotta win the police over if this thing's gonna work at all.
02:15:18.000Like, they've got enough non-lethal arsenal right now to fuck up a lot of people and still feel like they're not being lethal, they're just being okay, they're just following orders.
02:15:28.000You know, they're just worried about their paycheck as well, you know, and that will be said.
02:15:33.000They've got the sonic weapons, they've got fucking rubber bullets.
02:15:36.000Like, you look at revolts and revolution throughout history, they never had the weaponry that they have right now to use against their own people.
02:15:43.000That's what scares the shit out of me.
02:15:44.000That they can flip on a ray gun and it will microwave your intestines.
02:16:44.000You know, there's a thing that I watched on TV the other day where they were talking about sonic weapons and what they're able to do now with sound.
02:17:13.000From these giant, booming speakers on a big, black, monolithic-looking car with riot police in front of it bashing their shields with batons to create sound, you know?
02:17:22.000And the thing is like, attention, we are going to employ sonic weapons.
02:17:26.000I think you're talking about the sonic weapons they used in Vancouver at the Olympics.
02:18:09.000And they just fucking blows their brains out and they have to swim away.
02:18:13.000They should have new shit where it's like, in the next 10 minutes we're going to have this thing that's going to break your iPhone.
02:18:18.000I personally like it the way the fucking Russians handle it.
02:18:22.000The Russians go after Somali pilots, they fucking pump missiles into their boats and they peel them up and they shoot them in the fucking head.
02:18:39.000When technology, as far as weapons and shit, and riot stuff, when it becomes viable, when it becomes something that people can make money developing, and these weapons companies, they're going to start turning it on people.
02:18:52.000Well, why else would you build them and buy them?
02:19:14.000And what they're going to see is, what worries me about this is that the imagery, like, when they shoot people in protests, right, in the Arab Spring, and you see people just getting fucking shot, you go, Holy shit, man.
02:21:31.000We have the knowledge to connect all the dots as to what's happening right now, and yet we're just repeating history, but with slightly different tools and in slightly different volumes.
02:21:39.000You know, it's been ratcheted up, and we've survived a lot of that history, but who knows what atrocities could lie around the corner.
02:21:47.000But I've even been looking at, like, I'm doing all right.
02:21:52.000And I see, I'm really concerned for the direction of this country, which is why I'm trying to educate myself and be a little more outspoken about it.
02:21:58.000But I'm really concerned to the point where I've had the discussion of, all right, well, where the fuck, where's our exit strategy?
02:22:05.000If the shit really hits the fan tomorrow and they declare martial law on the streets, lockdown, you know, the riot police are coming in, are the Marines going to come in and fight?
02:22:12.000Am I going to wake up tomorrow morning, my dollar's worth nothing and there's a war zone outside my window?
02:22:15.000I mean, we're potentially two to three years away from that.
02:22:24.000And the notion that it could happen, not that I think it will, but the notion that it could, I never thought I would feel that in my lifetime in this country.
02:23:04.000Dude, I almost moved there in 1984. When Bush won again in 2004, I just sat back, especially because I was paying attention to the whole Diebold voting thing.
02:23:31.000And showed how there's a third party option in the software that allows a third party, other than the voter, other than the person reading the vote, a second person, another person, comes in and inserts data and changes the data.
02:23:45.000They had been massive contributors to the Republican Party.
02:23:48.000The idea that some company can contribute to the Republican Party and then make a machine that decides whether Republicans or Democrats win elections is madness.
02:25:08.000Whether it's fucking Costa Rica or where the fuck it is.
02:25:11.000If you find a place that you think that you could live a safer, healthier, friendlier life than what you're here in the center of the shitstorm.
02:25:24.000I love the idea that we save the world from the Russians and we save the world from the Nazis and that we're the noblest and the most creative.
02:25:32.000I love the idea, but I don't see it in practice.
02:25:52.000And that's what I've been thinking because, you know, people had chances to get out of countries that became locked down and war started and then it was like, yeah, you ain't going anywhere.
02:26:30.000Well, I mean, they could be sold a message that it's not their brothers and sisters and neighbors, that it's insurgents, that they're terrorists.
02:26:36.000And that would be the agent provocateur.
02:26:38.000So we need a certain population of sociopaths to make this whole fucking plan work for the man.
02:27:39.000The real deep water shit, like the Planet Earth Deep Water Edition.
02:27:42.000Anything on deep water, I see the life that exists on this planet and it makes me realize how uncreative human beings are at conceiving what alien life forms could be.
02:29:03.000Maybe that's the question we're not supposed to ever answer.
02:29:05.000Well, maybe we'll get to a certain point where we realize, oh, no, there is some sort of an inner code that's inescapable that permeates the entire universe.
02:29:13.000Whatever it's string theory or whatever the fuck it is, they find some frequency at the center of all that accepts love and rejects negativity.
02:29:21.000Like the Hitler video and that contact signal.
02:29:54.000You see, Dr. Drew was talking about you on the Conan O'Brien show, which is cool, by the way, that not only has the California Association backed up medical marijuana...
02:30:04.000Dr. Drew is on Conan being asked, do you back up medical marijuana?
02:31:24.000And he's pretty sure he's got his addictions under control, but he didn't want to take the chance.
02:31:27.000And one of the reasons why is because he had a friend And this friend, I believe he said, had been sober for, you know, 10 fucking years, had been working as a counselor in a place helping people stay sober, stayed up in the Poconos so that he didn't have to go back around the same neighborhood and be around the same people.
02:31:44.000He was working it as hard as you could.
02:31:45.000He was there for 10 years, gets in some sort of an accident, has a back problem, whatever, they put him on some pills, boom, he's a junkie again.
02:32:10.000But they discount the positive benefits of it, and they make it as if it's a goof.
02:32:17.000They make it as if they go, like, well, listen, I'm not going to stop you from smoking pot.
02:32:21.000If you want to smoke pot, forget about all the medical uses, because the medical uses are many, and they're very varied, and they're very real.
02:32:27.000The actual benefits of it for the human race are substantial.
02:32:34.000And they're not something you should just dismiss and diminish because popular opinion is laced with the propaganda from 1930s and it has just entwined itself into our culture to the point where people believe all sorts of bullshit and nonsense about what is really an amazing beneficial plant.
02:32:51.000You know, and maybe you can't handle it, maybe you don't like it, but to tell me that this thing, this turbocharger for the imagination, this thing that makes you more sensitive, makes you more loving, it makes you more friendly, it makes food taste better, makes sex taste better, it doesn't harm you in any way.
02:33:05.000You wake up in the morning, you fucking feel great, you don't feel hungover.
02:33:08.000You're telling me that this thing that I take in that does this is bad?
02:33:11.000I'm telling you it could fix the fucking world.
02:33:14.000I'm telling you it changes consciousness.
02:33:16.000I'm telling you, it's a fucking tool, man.
02:33:19.000It's a tool like a hammer or a fucking jackhammer or a laser beam.
02:33:31.000They need people who have experienced altered states of consciousness and not only know how to navigate them, can talk other people through them and do it on a professional level.
02:33:39.000What they've done for thousands and thousands of years in the rainforest, We need to apply, not just with marijuana, but all the different tools of consciousness, including alcohol.
02:33:49.000They should have places where they teach you how to drink alcohol.
02:34:03.000It would benefit so many fucking people if when you were 19 or 20, they took you to a fucking class where some smart, interesting person taught you about drinking and gave you some fucking things to think about.
02:34:54.000We actually had a podcast yesterday that we went through all the entire stuff that Dr. Drew has said about marijuana all in a row, and we ended up with what he said on Conan.
02:35:03.000And he's actually saying that one of the biggest things right now is that there's people that get addicted to marijuana.
02:35:12.000Well, it's not physically, though, dude.
02:35:15.000It's addictive like jerking off is addictive.
02:35:17.000Right, but one of the biggest things right now that's filling hospitals and stuff like that is people freaking out on marijuana and stuff like that.
02:35:46.000He has to, as a physician says, it could happen.
02:35:49.000Well, he's saying that that's one of his biggest things that he treats is medical marijuana addiction.
02:35:54.000So what he was saying is that it is addictive because people do get addictive because he has to deal with it all the time.
02:36:01.000Now, he's saying he's for medical marijuana.
02:36:03.000He says that, especially now that after this thing...
02:36:07.000But to Joe's point, if there was a shaman, whether it's yourself or Dr. Drew or the fucking internet, that said, hey, this can be addictive.
02:36:36.000This current study, they believe that 10% of recreational users will develop problems severe enough to impair their work and relationships.
02:37:42.000There's a difference, I think, between when you have a fucked up life, and you don't have discipline, and you don't have, like, The ability to be objective about your body, the ability to be objective about your mind.
02:38:00.000Do you do any self-reflecting time where you sit down and look at your whole life as a whole?
02:38:06.000Well, if you don't, then sometimes you get washed up in some crazy wave of momentum and then you become obsessive with things, at least me.
02:38:13.000I find myself my most vulnerable when the rest of my life is out of order and chaotic.
02:38:18.000When the rest of my life is like a bunch of shit that I'm not dealing with and the fucking bills I'm not paying and all that, that's when I'll find myself beating off three times a day.
02:38:24.000That's when I'll find myself can't walk away from the computer because I want to fucking play video games online all hours of the day.
02:38:30.000Do you smoke more during those periods though?
02:43:04.000Look, legitimately, some people believe that that's how human beings existed a long time ago, that that's the mushroom orgies, the idea of these orgiastic groups of free sex monkeys that existed.
02:43:22.000You know, McKenna had that whole thing that he believed that, you know, and it really, the idea behind it is that at one point in time, mushrooms were a huge part of human diets and they were part of all these rituals and people would get together and eat them and they would have these orgies and have all these parties and have a good time.
02:43:39.000And that slowly but surely, the climate change, the mushrooms became more and more rare and they were hoarded by the elites and then they were also kept from other people.
02:43:47.000and then sort of this orgiastic communal society that we had.
02:43:52.000this matriarchal society by the way that worshipped the mother and worshipped the mother earth and Which mushrooms sort of tend to put you in tune with that frequency.
02:44:02.000And he actually documents it down to them taking mushrooms and putting them in honey, and that the honey became psychoactive as well, because honey, when it ferments, becomes mead.
02:44:10.000And then you have a completely polar opposite society.
02:44:12.000You have an alcohol-based society, which inflates the ego, diminishes objectivity and self-awareness, and diminishes the feelings of connectivity.